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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty

03/07/2013

PSA

Court will be dark Monday and Tuesday, resuming on Wednesday, March 13.

Daylight Saving Time (United States) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 10.  Arizona does not observe daylight savings.

So next week, for the east coast, court will begin now at 1:30pm.  Adjust your schedule for your time zone!

Update: Judge wants to start at 10am which now changes east coast to 1pm!

I was pretty tickled by the jury questions yesterday.  It shows they have been paying close attention and they’ve caught onto her lies.  What I find fascinating is Jodi just can’t keep to the script.  Every time she is asked a question previously posed, she gives an answer, but has to embellish with some extra details.  That’s where she does the most damage!  She trips herself up!

I’m not thrilled that Nurmi and Juan Martinez will each get another go at the juror questions.  Yeah it’s fun to watch Juan shred her, but geez, it will be like the third time we have to suffer through Arias’ testiphony.  I say move along to the witnesses!

Court Begins at 10:48 with the rest of the juror questions.

Screen shot 2013-03-07 at 3.48.17 PMYou made comments about abuse, you comment ‘as I understand now’ or realize.  How is it you understand now?  The more time that passed I’ve have had time to reflect.  She talks to church people who visit her and they help her understand.

Anyone else who knows about your memory issues?  I don’t think I have memory issues.

Did anyone else hear your altercations?  Yes, Dan Freeman, and his sister Desiree.

Travis was physical to you, were you ever physical to Travis before you killed him?  When he choked me, I think my hands were free and tried to push him off me.

In stress of fog how do remember the events?  I don’t recall everything.  She doesn’t process the words, but she remembers pain and her feelings at the time.

What happened to the gas cans after the road trip?  They came back to my grandmother’s.  I was going to return them to Darryl, bit never got the chance

Regarding shaking and fog do you still have those reactions?  I’ve gotten better about it.  If someone yells at me, I still shake.

If you were scared of Travis, why would you let him tie you up?  He was in a good mood and that was the Travis I liked.  He wasn’t showing any anger.

Do you recall the injuries to Travis’ body without the aid of photos?  No, I didn’t even realize I shot him.

Had you ever had any gun training or fired a gun before this?  No, not really.

How far were you from Travis when the gun went off?  Maybe as far as the court reporter?  I don’t really know.

What about the holster you mentioned?  I only saw the holster before I moved.  I never saw it after that?

Well, that blows what she said the other day!

You say you know of the stab wounds based on logic, how do you explain the blood on your hands, clothes, and the bloody palm print?  I just know we struggled.

Was he chasing you after the shot in the head?  We had fallen over and we struggled on the floor.  As soon I got away, I couldn’t say.

Yikes, I didn’t kill Travis, the GUN killed Travis.

Claims she wrote out all her suicide notes and sent them to her grandmother with note not to open till November 10 because she hoped to be dead by then.

So, where the heck are those letters?

Yippee, additional questions from the jury!!!

Swear, if I could reach through the screen, I’d slap the crap out of Jodi’s mother for sitting in court giggling with her friend!!!  No wonder her spawn acts the way she does!!!

Judge sends jury out for 5 minutes…

Defense huddled with Arias…

Jury returns at 11:36.

Stated today you did not have professional help in dealing with your issues, yesterday, you stated you talked to a psychologist to help you deal with the child porn issues?  That wasn’t for help, it was an evaluation.

You claim everything happened so fast you didn’t have time to think, how was it you thought to grab the gun?  It was just a reaction, no thinking.

You claim you have memory issues, how can you remember some things?  I don’t think I have memory issues different from the ordinary person.

Did Mr. Martinez make you shake?  Yes, during opening statements.  It happened most every day, especially during cross.

Show of hands…anybody see her shaking???

What happened to the suicide notes to your grandmother?  I mailed them to her and asked her to hold them.

Again, where are those friggin letters?

Were you in the fog when kissing Ryan?  Yes.

Nurmi up on whatever the hell we are calling this!

You received the book of Mormon and you read a chapter a day?  Yes.

Does that contain a list of chastity things that are ok or not ok?  No.

Remember, she said she based everything on what Travis explained to her!

Ughhhh…this is just Nurmi trying to tighten her direct testiphony!

Judge calls lunch break…

Kill me!  Judge just took the bench and Nurmi whines to approach!

Jury brought in at 2:48.

Nurmi up…

Your breakup with Mr. Brewer in 2006, you said your relationship was coming to and end. Yes it started to fizzle in the summer of 2006.

You ended the relationship after you went to the PPL convention and met Mr. Alexander?  Yes.

You initiated the conversation of the breakup?  Yes, I asked if we could talk.

Nurmi is just rehashing the direct testimony and has gone so far astray of the juror question of, ‘with respect to the breakups, who initiated the contact after the breakup’?

This has just got to be pissing the jurors off, big time!

The issue of suicide letters came up, do you remember that?  Yes.

Nurmi shows her exhibits of …OMG!…the suicide letters!  How did these not come up before and they magically appear after the jury questioned her???

Fake crying as she reads through these!

She confirms they are her suicide letters.

Now a journal entry from August 26, 2007.

So, you’ve been contemplating suicide for a long time?  Yes, but there was a break till after Travis passed away.

Again, far astray from what the jury wanted to know!

Nurmi is gonna drag this out all day and prolly into next week.  He’s bringing in all kinds of crap that wasn’t in the original testiphony and I’m pretty ticked off this is allowed!!!

Ok everybody, run quick and get your foil hats and set your taser on stun!

Notice I’m not typing anything but snarky remarks!

I refuse to type any of this.  I have so tuned all of this out because this is Nurmi and a do-over.  Judge needs to stop this crap from continuing! 

How did Mr. Alexander obtain the gun?  My understanding is his father….

Objection, sidebar.

Afternoon recess.

So, looking for suggestions on how to prep Thanksgiving dinner with the trial going on.

Back at 3:24.

Oh, Juan objected to the suicide letters coming in as exhibits!   They’re self-serving hearsay.  My understating is there has to be an act of conformity and she’s still here!

Bwwahhhahaha!

Judge currently reviewing the suicide notes.

We resume at 3:33.

The ownership of Mr. Alexander’s guns, did you understand that was to be kept secret?  Yes.

The camera from June 4, you did not take it with you?  No, I did not take it.

On the day of the murder, she now doesn’t remember the gun being in the holster!

She doesn’t remember cocking the gun or taking the safety off.

Was the knife ever with you in your car?  Not at any time.

Do you have a recollection of disposing of the knife?  I have a vague memory of putting a knife in the dishwasher, but that could have been another time.

You were asked about shaking.  You said you were shaking during cross?  Yes.  I was shaking everyday, but mostly on the first day of cross.  Said she had her teeth clenched so they would chatter.  She wouldn’t reach for the water for fear of the prosecutor noticeing.  Claims she tenses her entire body to control it!

Liar, Liar!

What are you ashamed of in relationship to June 4?  Because of what I did and I was capable of being pushed to that point and things Travis and I had done.

You lied throughout this case? Yes.

Why should anyone believe you now?  I lied to protect Travis’ reputation.

Martinez is up.

You told you were going to tell the truth and whole truth?  To the best of my recollection?

Not your recollection, did you swear to that?  Yes.

You told the pedophile story to a psychologist?  Yes.

You told Matt?  Yes.

He would never betray you and he’s an ally?  Yes.

He would even lie for you?  No.

Do you recall the incident with Matt…

Objection, beyond scope of the questions…

Hey, pot calling kettle black here!!!

You told a therapist?  He was not a therapist.

Ok, psychologist…

Objection…sidebar…overruled…

You told Richard Samuels?  Yes.

He is assisting in your defense?  Yes.

Alyce Laviolette is also going to testify on your behalf?  Yes.

The statements to Samuels were made years after the case began to be prosecuted.  I don’t remember, I told maybe a year after.

It was 2010?  I can’t say.

Talking about this for years would benefit you?  I don’t know.

You told Laviolette years after you told Mr. Samuels?  I don’t know if it was years.

So you did what you were told?  I just answered them.

You told somebody else?  Yes.

When?  April 2008.

You were arrested on July 15, 2008.  You had interviews on the 15th and 16th?  Yes.

When did you tell Samuels about the pedophilia?  2009, not sure of the month.

What was the date you told this other individual about the pedophilia?  I don’t know it was some guy, I don’t know who he is.

You couldn’t remember whether you filled your car or the gas cans first?  Yes.

You told the jurors this morning you filled the cans and put the hose in the pump that ended the transaction.

You purchased a 5-gallon can in Salinas?  Yes.

You told us you have a good memory when nobody is yelling at you?  Yes.

You returned the can to Wal-Mart?  Yes.

Why did you show up in Salt Lake City with 3 gas cans?

Objection…sidebar.

In Salt Lake City?  I don’t remember going to Salt Lake City.

She’s back to the “to the best of my recollection”.

You don’t?  I don’t know where the borders are.

Martinez whips out the gas receipts for the 6th and they show 4:05 am and her gas purchases.

He also whips out her Washington Mutual bank statement for June 2008.

Martinez moves to enter exhibit.

Nurmi objects and asks to approach…

Judge admits the exhibit.

Her ATM purchases confirm 3 purchase of gas.  $36.98, 41.18, and 19.65.  The $19.65 correlates to 5 gals of gas!

Would you be surprised the Wal-Mart in Salinas doesn’t have any record of

Object…sidebar…

He shows the June 3rd receipt from Wal-Mart of the purchase of the can.

Would it surprise you Wal-Mart has no record on that day of any return of a gas can?  Yes, because I did return it and received cash.

Folks return things all the time and know they cross the item out on the original slip and give another receipt for the return.

You cut your right hand at Casa Ramos?  Yes.

And you filled out no accident report?  No, it’s a small business.  There are only 4 or 5 locations.

You told the manager about it?  I asked him for a band-aid.

You never told him you were injured on the job?  Asking for a band-aid says I was injured.

He didn’t ask anything about how you were injured?  It was very busy and we didn’t have time to discuss.  I don’t recall what was discussed.

But you told us you have a good memory!

Court recessed for the day.

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  1. Anonymous
    03/07/2013 at 7:13 pm

    Walmart doesn’t return items for cash. They give you a credit voucher or credit it back to CC. I also saw a $400 dep. on her statement? Did she possibly Rob him too. And was Matt McCartney a sidekick possibly?

  2. Anonymous
    03/07/2013 at 7:16 pm

    Excellent round-up, as usual, Donchais. Don’t blame you one bit for not recording Nurmi’s vomit-inducing questioning. I was a little hopeful that Juan would wrap things up more. He seems to get admissions but then it leaves us hanging somewhat. What do you think is significant about the psychologist questioning? And if she filled the gas cans in SLC, yes that does point to the fact she lied, but it also bolsters her claim that she was filling up cans to save money on gas (she wasn’t going back to Mesa, was she?) Also, what is the significance of how she injured her finger at the restaurant, and whether she told her manager? Sorry to be dense, but I love when the details are filled in a little bit more. Sometimes I’m not sure where Juan is going with his questions. Thanks!

  3. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 7:18 pm

    Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!!

    I can’t believe that JM managed to get up because Wurmi was sooo trying to run out the clock but he’s on fire.

    I don’t see a damn bit of shaking, jaw clenching, just deep breaths and a deer in the headlights look. Love it, love it, love it! She soooooooooooo knows that her goose is cooked!!!!!:-) Now, if JM found the bank statements and contacted Walmart, ya know he has an exhibit for everything else she is going to try and say on Wednesday.

    Thanks donchais for your reporting. I was doing everything but listening to the JA/Wurmi show again. Haven’t we already heard all this stuff, in JA’s words, a bazillion times? Can’t wait for Wednesday but what the hell am I going to do with all this time?????

    Also thanks for the notice of the time change. I’m not really impressed that now court is going to start at 2:30 p.m. and 3:00 if you happen to live in Newfoundland. At this rate I’m gonna be wired even later each night. :-(

  4. Rache
    03/07/2013 at 7:18 pm

    Couldn’t watch today so thank you, donchais, for your recap. I’ve been anxiously awaiting your commentary. Will this woman ever stop????? Now she claims she was shaking during cross?? Never saw one sign of that. I hope JM takes her apart. I totally agree about JA’s mother….I mentioned the same thing the other day. If my child were on trial, I would not find one reason to smile, much less giggle. Sickening behavior. Go Juan!!

  5. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 7:37 pm

    Laine :
    OMG Did it feel like a Perry Mason moment to anyone else when JM caught her on those gas cans and the walmart return!!! For the first time in this trial she looks SCARED!!! and I really shouldn’t be enjoying it…but right now I want to Kiss JM!!!!

    It did feel like a Perry Mason moment!!!!!! Love it, love it, love it! I’m so thrilled I feel like I want to do a jig, but I’m scared I’ll jinx things.

  6. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 7:40 pm

    JVM is saying that the jurors are writing even more questions. Hope that they will be allowed next week! At this rate, we’re still going to be going back and forth until June.

    I worship at the feet of JM!!!!!!

    Love it, love it, love it!!!!!!!!!!! :-) :-) :-)

  7. donchais
    03/07/2013 at 7:41 pm

    Anon, the significance is she lied her butt off. Samuels and Laviolette both experts for the defense, what she told them differs from what she told the prose expert and what she stated in court.

    In her testimony and other witness testimony, she lied as to the injury to her finger.

    Lies, just all lies being brought out!

  8. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 7:46 pm

    Jackass has no clue that this jury sees right through her.

    Juan Martinez is going for the jugular again to prove she lied about having three gas cans, about injuring her finger at the restaurant and many more.

    I was impressed even more with the jurors questions today.

    A smart juror asked if she escaped unscathed except for a bump on the head, sore shoulder, scraped ankles where Travis was stabbed numerous times and had his throat slashed and was shot in the head?

    Jackass replies, “Yes, that is accurate.”

    Another smart juror also asked: “Did you shake when Mr. Martinez was talking? If so, how many times?”

    Jackass says, “All the time.” She says she even shook during opening statement.

    Does she think the jurors are blind? Like us, they see every time Martinez comes up to bat she turns into a controlling Know It All and Smart Ass and plays word games with him, not a scared victim who shakes when a man yells at her. One juror even called her controlling.

    The jury will see if she’s lying about fearing Martinez and shaking on the stand, she is lying about the abuse, shaking when Travis yells and being afraid of Travis.

    Jackass is in her glory because she believes they are buying her made up abuse excuse, pedophile crap and her gun story. She brings up the made up choking and his “problems with children” every chance she gets.

    The last juror question that said it all was: “You’ve lied so much, why should we believe you now?”

    The jurors know the answer. They can’t believe a word she says because she lies to benefit herself.

    I’m sure the jurors are pissed off at her because she is playing them for fools.

    They’ll remember her words, “No jury will convict me because I am innocent. Mark my words.”

    I think she just signed her death sentence.

    I had better things to do than listen to Wurmi and Jackass drone on and on about sex, sex and more sex. I will turn it back on when it is Martinez’s turn.

  9. Chrissie A
    03/07/2013 at 7:53 pm

    Thanks Donchais, I so enjoy your recaps!!! JA and her shakin’ got me all shook up! Usually when one shakes, so will their voice, and nothing from her in in that regard. I swear I wouldn’t be able to watch this all the way through if I didn’t have my screen split between the court and twitter. Now we have a secret gun to go along with the magic holster, but I have a feeling it’s this type of thing that will ultimately bring her bring her down. Saw reports on the Twit that JA was crying while reading something before taking the stand at lunch and someone jovially posted that it must be about her suicide as that is the only reason she would cry – BINGO!
    Time to wake up when Juan started into her, (again, no shaking) I think he did an excellent job of showing the jury what a liar she is and they seem to be paying attention as a couple of peeps tweeting from the courtroom saw more questions going in the box. I’m with you on Thanksgiving dinner prep :-)

  10. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 7:54 pm

    The JA/Wurmi show has been going on for so long and JA has been on the stand for so many days that I can’t even remember who testified for the prosecution. Thank goodness I have all your posts to refresh my mind. I hope the jury has taken lots of notes because after all, most of us don’t have the remarkable memory that JA has!!!lol

  11. Chrissie A
    03/07/2013 at 8:05 pm

    MMD :
    The JA/Wurmi show has been going on for so long and JA has been on the stand for so many days that I can’t even remember who testified for the prosecution. Thank goodness I have all your posts to refresh my mind. I hope the jury has taken lots of notes because after all, most of us don’t have the remarkable memory that JA has!!!lol

    Me too, I had to do a quick refresher of the peeps for the prosecution yesterday. Is her good friend and ally Matt McCartney going to be on the witness stand and do we know how many more witnesses Nurmi and his gang has?

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 8:28 pm

      There is at least two…DV expert and PTSD expert. Lord knows what else the defense cat may drag in.

      Hoping Martinez puts Matt on!

  12. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 8:10 pm

    A guest on JVM was predicting JA would get 2nd degree so I found this tweet from the local AZ reporter interesting.

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer

    For those of you who think Jodi Arias can plead to a lesser charge, you are mistaken. Those offers come from the prosecutor. None were made.

    Love it, love it, love it! I so want her to fry and as I’ve said so many times before, I’m not a proponent of the death penalty! In fact, I’m completely against it but for JA I would crank up the chair or give the injection myself.

  13. kristin
    03/07/2013 at 8:11 pm

    MMD, I will see your “Liar, liar pants on fire!” and raise you a “busted, disgusted, can’t be trusted!”

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 8:25 pm

      lol

  14. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 8:46 pm

    kristin :
    MMD, I will see your “Liar, liar pants on fire!” and raise you a “busted, disgusted, can’t be trusted!”

    Kristin – glad to see you’re still on a roll! :-) I concede defeat. My brain is “too scrambled” to think. lol (sound familiar, eh!) :-)

  15. Chrissie A
    03/07/2013 at 8:48 pm

    MMD :
    A guest on JVM was predicting JA would get 2nd degree so I found this tweet from the local AZ reporter interesting.
    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer
    For those of you who think Jodi Arias can plead to a lesser charge, you are mistaken. Those offers come from the prosecutor. None were made.
    Love it, love it, love it! I so want her to fry and as I’ve said so many times before, I’m not a proponent of the death penalty! In fact, I’m completely against it but for JA I would crank up the chair or give the injection myself.

    So does the jury have to go for the death penalty or aquittal only?

  16. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 8:57 pm

    kristin –

    How about lied, cried, gonna be fried! for JA

    Bored, snored and ignored! for the JA/Wurmi show.

    I know, truly bad and lame :-( but I’ll work to see if I can come up with something better before court resumes.

  17. Rora
    03/07/2013 at 8:59 pm

    The Nurmi and SkankyBooBoo show should just go ahead and do it Jeopardy style. He gives her the answer and she answers him with the question.

    Can’t wait till Wednesday!!

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 9:00 pm

      Lovin it!

  18. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 9:03 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    A guest on JVM was predicting JA would get 2nd degree so I found this tweet from the local AZ reporter interesting.
    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer
    For those of you who think Jodi Arias can plead to a lesser charge, you are mistaken. Those offers come from the prosecutor. None were made.
    Love it, love it, love it! I so want her to fry and as I’ve said so many times before, I’m not a proponent of the death penalty! In fact, I’m completely against it but for JA I would crank up the chair or give the injection myself.

    So does the jury have to go for the death penalty or aquittal only?

    I honestly don’t know as I am not familiar with AZ law. I defer to donchais who will know and if she doesn’t will find out.

  19. 03/07/2013 at 9:05 pm

    Wow! What a way to end the day! We didn’t tune in to the Three Stooges sideshow until we knew JM was on deck! Boy we sat up for that! He’s good…..he’s damn good! And she knows it….We’re sure the Three Stooges pissed all over themselves when those gas cans came up again! Boy….they were constantly objecting and being shut down. JM was smart to use those last 30 minutes and get in what he could. The jury was left with those last impressions and know there is more to come from JM!!

    Go get her Juan!!

  20. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 9:15 pm

    I doubt if Matt MCartney will testify for the defense because if he lies for her, he will face a perjury charge. The defense won’t put him on the stand if he won’t corroborate her story. Matt told the prosecution and defense that Jodi had not told him about the pedophilia and he never saw bruises. That’s why Martinez twice brought up that she told 48 Hours that Matt could be trusted and was an ally and she says bitterly, “I thought he was somebody I could trust.” In cross, she said she hopes Matt comes through for her.

    If Matt testifies for the defense, Martinez is ready for him with the two magazines she tried to smuggle out of jail with a coded message to Matt trying to get him to lie for her but the penciled messages in the margins were discovered by a guard and the magazines turned over to authorities. If he isn’t a defense witness, Martinez will have him testify in his rebuttal case.

    For those who missed Donchais excellent article on it, this is the message meant for Matt decoded:

    p 43 – You fucked up. What you told my attorney the next day

    P 40 – Directly contradicts what I’ve been saying for over a year

    P 56 – Get down here asap and see me before you talk to them again and before

    p 20 – You testify so

    P 37 – We can fix this

    p 54 – Interview was excellent! Must talk asap!

  21. andrize
    03/07/2013 at 9:18 pm

    Anonymous had a question about where JM was going with the finger/Casa Ramos questioning, and this is what I’m thinking:

    Part of her story about the injury that Ryan Burns testified to was that she did not have any record of seeking medical attention for the finger(s) she cut at Casa Ramos (Margaritaville) and thus couldn’t definitively prove that it did NOT happen when she murdered TA (we’d just have to take her word for it). So, yesterday, one of the juror questions asked something about her employer being aware of the injury or if they had her fill out paperwork – something like that. She then said that no, she didn’t because they were a “small company”, I think she even said something like they weren’t a corporation and thus didn’t have formalities for things that. I thought that the fact the injury happened at work would be something that would make it MORE likely she would have had medical attention for it because it would have been covered by her employer’s Workers’ Compensation insurance – which EVERY employer must have. Then, when I heard her lame excuse, I was hoping that JM would have the opportunity to call her out on this. I have handled Workers’ Comp where I work for nearly 10 years; I can tell you that we ALWAYS err on the side of protecting ourselves (the employer) from possible claims from employees further down the road. Even if the injury was something small, and even if the employee did not seek medical treatment, we still always create a file and notify our insurer of the incident as “information only” because you never know…
    Anyway, the thought that her employer would not do anything is ridiculous to me. I am also in California (where she was working) and there is a mandatory annual labor law poster that must be posted in a work area where all employees can see it. There are federal and state aspects to the information, and one large portion is explicitly about Workers’ Comp, employees’ rights and information on contacting the local WC or OSHA offices in case your employer does not provide you with their insurance information or policy number.

    – Alisa

  22. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 9:23 pm

    Did Judge deny bringing her suicide letters into evidence?

  23. MADDONA
    03/07/2013 at 9:59 pm

    Did anyone else notice when JM started with the 3 gas purchases in SLC and the 3rd gas can…Jodi swallowed MULTIPLE times like a nervous person….like “Uh Oh….he as PROOF that I am lying!” I also thought the Juror question about ” Definition of a SKANK” was BRILLIANT and very telling!

  24. 03/07/2013 at 10:01 pm

    Can somebody recap the gas can thing for me. What JA claimed about the cans, particularly the thirds can and how JM caught her in a lie. I know she said she returned one but why would she lie about a third can. What am I missing here?

  25. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 10:12 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    A guest on JVM was predicting JA would get 2nd degree so I found this tweet from the local AZ reporter interesting.
    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer
    For those of you who think Jodi Arias can plead to a lesser charge, you are mistaken. Those offers come from the prosecutor. None were made.
    Love it, love it, love it! I so want her to fry and as I’ve said so many times before, I’m not a proponent of the death penalty! In fact, I’m completely against it but for JA I would crank up the chair or give the injection myself.

    So does the jury have to go for the death penalty or aquittal only?

    The jury could find her guilty of first degree murder, second degree murder or manslaughter. If she is found guilty of first degree murder, they can give her death or LWOP.

    First degree murder requires premeditation but premeditation can be formed in the blink of an eye. I think the jurors will believe Martinez theory that Jodi planned the murder in Yreka by using Ryan as an excuse for the trip, stealing the gun, borrowing the gas cans, renting the car, taking off the license plates, turning off her cell phone, waiting until the dog was contained downstairs and she knew his roommates would not be home and lured him in the shower for a photo shoot, then stabbed him 29 times and shot him in the head, cleaned the crime scene and covered up. If they don’t, it could still be felony murder because she brought the gun to the house and shot him in the head to make sure he was dead.

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 10:23 pm

      Arias and Nurmi filed a motion and tried to offer Martinez 2nd degree and she would settle for LWOP. They pretty much said if you don’t take it, we’ll drag Travis through the mud and hurt all his family and friends. Which, as we have seen, they’ve done!

      Defendants don’t get to offer deals. The prosecutor does! I understand Martinez didn’t give her the time of day!

      The strangest thing about the motion was that it was written to appear Arias has actually written it, not her attorneys.

      I was flabbergasted when I read they were trying to hold Martinez and Travis’ family hostage.

      Don’t have it at my fingertips, but will try to dig it up or if someone out there has it, please post it, it’s unbelievable.

      Thanks for any help!

  26. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 10:24 pm

    andrize :
    Anonymous had a question about where JM was going with the finger/Casa Ramos questioning, and this is what I’m thinking:
    Part of her story about the injury that Ryan Burns testified to was that she did not have any record of seeking medical attention for the finger(s) she cut at Casa Ramos (Margaritaville) and thus couldn’t definitively prove that it did NOT happen when she murdered TA (we’d just have to take her word for it). So, yesterday, one of the juror questions asked something about her employer being aware of the injury or if they had her fill out paperwork – something like that. She then said that no, she didn’t because they were a “small company”, I think she even said something like they weren’t a corporation and thus didn’t have formalities for things that. I thought that the fact the injury happened at work would be something that would make it MORE likely she would have had medical attention for it because it would have been covered by her employer’s Workers’ Compensation insurance – which EVERY employer must have. Then, when I heard her lame excuse, I was hoping that JM would have the opportunity to call her out on this. I have handled Workers’ Comp where I work for nearly 10 years; I can tell you that we ALWAYS err on the side of protecting ourselves (the employer) from possible claims from employees further down the road. Even if the injury was something small, and even if the employee did not seek medical treatment, we still always create a file and notify our insurer of the incident as “information only” because you never know…
    Anyway, the thought that her employer would not do anything is ridiculous to me. I am also in California (where she was working) and there is a mandatory annual labor law poster that must be posted in a work area where all employees can see it. There are federal and state aspects to the information, and one large portion is explicitly about Workers’ Comp, employees’ rights and information on contacting the local WC or OSHA offices in case your employer does not provide you with their insurance information or policy number.
    – Alisa

    Martinez will prove she is lying in his rebuttal case by having a Casa Ramos owner or manager testify that they always comply with the law and if Jodi was injured on the job she would be required to fill out Workman’s Comp forms. A Wal-Mart official will testify also that she did not return the gas can because no gas cans were returned in June 2008 and Wal-Mart always has the customers sign a receipt to show she got the refund.The return recept is stapled to the original receipt. Jodi is stupid if she thinks she can lie and it won’t be investigated. Wal-Mart and Casa Ramos might have seen it on TV and called the prosecutor.

  27. mlk74
    03/07/2013 at 10:27 pm

    Anonymous :Walmart doesn’t return items for cash. They give you a credit voucher or credit it back to CC. I also saw a $400 dep. on her statement? Did she possibly Rob him too. And was Matt McCartney a sidekick possibly?

    Yes they do, I have received cash for returns at walmart many times.

  28. Chrissie A
    03/07/2013 at 10:32 pm

    MADDONA :
    Did anyone else notice when JM started with the 3 gas purchases in SLC and the 3rd gas can…Jodi swallowed MULTIPLE times like a nervous person….like “Uh Oh….he as PROOF that I am lying!” I also thought the Juror question about ” Definition of a SKANK” was BRILLIANT and very telling!

    Yes, I did, it was the first real emotion I’ve seen from her

  29. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 10:35 pm

    Love the Nurmi/SkankyBooBoo show! :) and all the confident comments on here…please tell me I’m seeing this wrong (I hope not, but) Is JM maybe a little over anxious and a little “power” hungry when he questions Jodi? I mean, I know he’s proving her lies up and down, no doubt, and I do hope the jury comes through like we all hope they do, but the way he’s going about his questions, sometimes are not questions, but more like…remarks? Maybe that’s not the word I’m looking for, but to me, I think he gets too in a hurry, and worrying about her saying stuff like, (she does in a “jabbing way” she loves to do), like “yes, she took the oath to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and added: “to the best of my knowledge.” Instead of how he reacted to THAT the way he did, I think he could have worded it differently to where he can attack her, but not making it look like she is “getting” to him. He needs to calm down more and prove his points with her lies, and premeditation without coming off like a hot head, and getting off track. I’m afraid he might lose it sometimes, and cause either a mistrial, or lose the death penalty. Don’t get me wrong, I love his attacking ways, and he is excellent, but I have,in the back of my mind, what others have said about him early on, losing cases that way… Since I have found this blog, I don’t listen to HLN, or any of the talking heads anymore like I did earlier, to make me doubt my opinion of how JM is doing. Just in the beginning. Maybe it’s just me, and NO I do not think he should handle this SkankyBooBoo person with kid gloves, but I think he can choose his wording a little differently to where he can still prove all her BS harshly, yet him coming out smelling like a rose!!! That’s just my opinion because I am worried that the jury is believing the abuse from Travis… Please point out if I am seeing this wrong….On an different note, who is this woman friend of Jodis’ who will be testifying for her??? Anybody know? Thanks.

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 10:42 pm

      Martinez has a stellar record of convictions. He is doing nothing different than his usual prosecution that is awesome to behold.

      You don’t coddle the likes of a savage, brutal, lying, manipulating bitch such as Arias.

      Nope, he’s spot on and the jury sure appears to be getting it!

      Not aware of a woman friend testifying.

  30. Chrissie A
    03/07/2013 at 10:37 pm

    Observer :

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    A guest on JVM was predicting JA would get 2nd degree so I found this tweet from the local AZ reporter interesting.
    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer
    For those of you who think Jodi Arias can plead to a lesser charge, you are mistaken. Those offers come from the prosecutor. None were made.
    Love it, love it, love it! I so want her to fry and as I’ve said so many times before, I’m not a proponent of the death penalty! In fact, I’m completely against it but for JA I would crank up the chair or give the injection myself.

    So does the jury have to go for the death penalty or aquittal only?

    The jury could find her guilty of first degree murder, second degree murder or manslaughter. If she is found guilty of first degree murder, they can give her death or LWOP.
    First degree murder requires premeditation but premeditation can be formed in the blink of an eye. I think the jurors will believe Martinez theory that Jodi planned the murder in Yreka by using Ryan as an excuse for the trip, stealing the gun, borrowing the gas cans, renting the car, taking off the license plates, turning off her cell phone, waiting until the dog was contained downstairs and she knew his roommates would not be home and lured him in the shower for a photo shoot, then stabbed him 29 times and shot him in the head, cleaned the crime scene and covered up. If they don’t, it could still be felony murder because she brought the gun to the house and shot him in the head to make sure he was dead.

    Thanks so much Observer!!!!

  31. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 10:37 pm

    donchais :
    Arias and Nurmi filed a motion and tried to offer Martinez 2nd degree and she would settle for LWOP. They pretty much said if you don’t take it, we’ll drag Travis through the mud and hurt all his family and friends. Which, as we have seen, they’ve done!
    Defendants don’t get to offer deals. The prosecutor does! I understand Martinez didn’t give her the time of day!
    The strangest thing about the motion was that it was written to appear Arias has actually written it, not her attorneys.
    I was flabbergasted when I read they were trying to hold Martinez and Travis’ family hostage.
    Don’t have it at my fingertips, but will try to dig it up or if someone out there has it, please post it, it’s unbelievable.
    Thanks for any help!

    The motion never said she would agree to life without parole. The only sentence mentioned in the motion was 12 years. I think it was posted on the last article. I think Jodi did write the motion when she was acting as her own attorney and Nurmi’s name is on it because he was appointed to advise her.

  32. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 10:42 pm

    mlk74 :

    Anonymous :Walmart doesn’t return items for cash. They give you a credit voucher or credit it back to CC. I also saw a $400 dep. on her statement? Did she possibly Rob him too. And was Matt McCartney a sidekick possibly?

    Yes they do, I have received cash for returns at walmart many times.

    Yep, they sure do! BUT, they always mark through the item on the original receipt, and print something for you to sign, then attach it to the original that they give back to you so you can’t claim another return for the same item…Juan did better than that though. Since she said they didn’t give her a receipt, we got with Walmart and found on that date they did not have ANY returns for a gas can ON THAT DAY!! Slam!!! Did you see her face?? I loved that!!!!!

  33. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 10:53 pm

    donchais :
    Martinez has a stellar record of convictions. He is doing nothing different than his usual prosecution that is awesome to behold.
    You don’t coddle the likes of a savage, brutal, lying, manipulating bitch such as Arias.
    Nope, he’s spot on and the jury sure appears to be getting it!
    Not aware of a woman friend testifying.

    Thanks. please don’t get me wrong there, I know he shouldn’t in no way coddle criminals, mainly her, but I was just concerned about the wording only, not tone or anything like that. But thanks for the reply. If you feel and know him to be spot on, and the jury is getting it, I trust in you and I feel better about it….I hope you know I can’t stand her one bit!! I myself would be hard pressed if I were one of the public to get in to watch her on the stand. I don’t know if I could hold myself back from hauling my ass up there and yank her off the stand and show her what a body slam REALLY feels like!!! But thanks Donchais….I’ve said from the beginning, I love your blog, your snarky ways, and your sense of humor…and you all do a great job!!! Can’t wait til next week!!! I hope JM has something really crucial to blow her away even more!!!

  34. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 10:55 pm

    Donchais: Here’s the motion asking for the second degree plea

    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 11:05 pm

      Ta, Observer!

  35. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 10:57 pm

    Janet :
    Love the Nurmi/SkankyBooBoo show! and all the confident comments on here…please tell me I’m seeing this wrong (I hope not, but) Is JM maybe a little over anxious and a little “power” hungry when he questions Jodi? I mean, I know he’s proving her lies up and down, no doubt, and I do hope the jury comes through like we all hope they do, but the way he’s going about his questions, sometimes are not questions, but more like…remarks? Maybe that’s not the word I’m looking for, but to me, I think he gets too in a hurry, and worrying about her saying stuff like, (she does in a “jabbing way” she loves to do), like “yes, she took the oath to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and added: “to the best of my knowledge.” Instead of how he reacted to THAT the way he did, I think he could have worded it differently to where he can attack her, but not making it look like she is “getting” to him. He needs to calm down more and prove his points with her lies, and premeditation without coming off like a hot head, and getting off track. I’m afraid he might lose it sometimes, and cause either a mistrial, or lose the death penalty. Don’t get me wrong, I love his attacking ways, and he is excellent, but I have,in the back of my mind, what others have said about him early on, losing cases that way… Since I have found this blog, I don’t listen to HLN, or any of the talking heads anymore like I did earlier, to make me doubt my opinion of how JM is doing. Just in the beginning. Maybe it’s just me, and NO I do not think he should handle this SkankyBooBoo person with kid gloves, but I think he can choose his wording a little differently to where he can still prove all her BS harshly, yet him coming out smelling like a rose!!! That’s just my opinion because I am worried that the jury is believing the abuse from Travis… Please point out if I am seeing this wrong….On an different note, who is this woman friend of Jodis’ who will be testifying for her??? Anybody know? Thanks.

    Oops…In the beginning where I state in parenthesis (“I hope I’m not) I meant to say (I hope I AM seeing this wrong)

  36. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 10:59 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MADDONA :
    Did anyone else notice when JM started with the 3 gas purchases in SLC and the 3rd gas can…Jodi swallowed MULTIPLE times like a nervous person….like “Uh Oh….he as PROOF that I am lying!” I also thought the Juror question about ” Definition of a SKANK” was BRILLIANT and very telling!

    Yes, I did, it was the first real emotion I’ve seen from her

    You got that right!! The first REAL emotion yet!!! LOL!!!

  37. Chrissie A
    03/07/2013 at 11:01 pm

    Janet :

    mlk74 :

    Anonymous :Walmart doesn’t return items for cash. They give you a credit voucher or credit it back to CC. I also saw a $400 dep. on her statement? Did she possibly Rob him too. And was Matt McCartney a sidekick possibly?

    Yes they do, I have received cash for returns at walmart many times.

    Yep, they sure do! BUT, they always mark through the item on the original receipt, and print something for you to sign, then attach it to the original that they give back to you so you can’t claim another return for the same item…Juan did better than that though. Since she said they didn’t give her a receipt, we got with Walmart and found on that date they did not have ANY returns for a gas can ON THAT DAY!! Slam!!! Did you see her face?? I loved that!!!!!

    Yep that was a doozy! The juror questions seem to be hurting her more than helping her, I know they are time consuming but I think they are good idea, (maybe by bringing up things that may otherwise be objected to in a trial) and their ability to do so also probably makes them more attentive and involved.

  38. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 11:03 pm

    When JM started bring up the 3 gas receipts, did anyone see after her “true uh oh” emotion on her face, her eyes glaring at him??? My God, those were some “if looks could kill” eyes I have EVER seen!!!! Her eyes were like saying “you damn son of a b*&^%… I truly ate that up, cuz she knew he caught her yet AGAIN in another lie!! :)

  39. donchais
    03/07/2013 at 11:07 pm
  40. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 11:22 pm

    Observer :
    Donchais: Here’s the motion asking for the second degree plea
    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf

    Thanks Observer!!

  41. 03/07/2013 at 11:24 pm

    Surely by now the jury has concluded she is guilty of 1st degree murder. She is just vile and evil. She keeps talking about protecting Travis and yet she butchered him. Not only did she take his life, but she is attempting vilify him to save herself. One thing that needs to be considered is would you want this woman dating your son or loved one? Jury needs to make sure she never has another opportunity to do this again. Burn in hell JA.

  42. Liza Frankenstein
    03/07/2013 at 11:31 pm

    She mentioned something interesting today about blacking out or deliberately making herself blackout once when she was younger (unrelated to drinking alcoholic bev)…I wonder if she has ever experimented with asphyxia during sex either with Travis or any one of her former boyfriends.

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 11:33 pm

      My thought also!

  43. Commerce1
    03/07/2013 at 11:39 pm

    There is absolutely no way a person could kill another in the violent, viscious manner that Jodi killed Travis without suffering significant injuries themselves; especially if it was self-defense. We know by Travis’ wounds he was fighting to defend himself. There is no way……UNLESS the person doing the killing ambushes the person who is killed.

    Ambushing another and attacking “like a Ninja” as she described in one of her police interrogations IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT SELF-DEFENSE.

    This one aspect alone points to pre-meditation: The lack of injuries to Jodi.

    Fry this b*tch already!

  44. Chrissie A
    03/07/2013 at 11:59 pm

    Commerce1 :
    There is absolutely no way a person could kill another in the violent, viscious manner that Jodi killed Travis without suffering significant injuries themselves; especially if it was self-defense. We know by Travis’ wounds he was fighting to defend himself. There is no way……UNLESS the person doing the killing ambushes the person who is killed.
    Ambushing another and attacking “like a Ninja” as she described in one of her police interrogations IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT SELF-DEFENSE.
    This one aspect alone points to pre-meditation: The lack of injuries to Jodi.
    Fry this b*tch already!

    Great points!!!!

  45. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 12:01 am

    According to the motion filed July 7, 2011 by Kurt Nurmi, Jodi Arias doesn’t believe she will get the death penalty. She believes the most she will get is a life sentence. So she has no incentive to plead guilty to first degree murder. She wanted to plead guilty to second degree murder to avoid a trial which would tarnish Travis Alexander’s memory and ruin “marriages.” She made it clear unless there was a plea deal, she intended to drag Travis through the mud and she made good on her promise. The motion used as case law the second degree murder plea of a Phoenix man who stabbed his wife and got 12 years. So she was looking for a 12 year sentence and she would be out in a few years with time served and good behavior. Martinez refused to negotiate any plea. He wants her on death row for this brutal massacre.

  46. John
    03/08/2013 at 12:12 am

    I sincerely hope in his closing statements JM will show pics and maybe vids of the happy and healthy Travis in his everyday life(without the shedevil in them!) before that witch savagely murdered him so the jury will be reminded of the amazing young man and beautiful and promising life she took( and ended way too soon!).

  47. Trial watcher
    03/08/2013 at 12:16 am

    it looks like JM has beaten her down and what a beating. Just seeing the looks on her face was pleasure enough. She was squirming !! The gas cans have finally came to an unreal conclusion. Thank you Wal-Mart! The DP is on the way!! Also a huge thank you to
    Donchais for this awesome up to date info. What would we do without you!!

  48. margherita lebsack
    03/08/2013 at 12:27 am

    This might be a question answered previously… Any possibility Matt McCartney was an accomplice?

  49. Trial watcher
    03/08/2013 at 12:34 am

    You are so right Alisa about the Workers Comp Ins. Here in Canada as in the USA never would an employer ignore any injury and not make a report, as u say down the road you just never know so u follow the rules something JAA knows nothing about. This woman’s rule in life has been one big lie, JA strikes me as the type that rather lie than tell the truth even when the truth would be easier. No conscious whatsoever about Travis. Never once have we heard her say that she is SORRY for what took place on June 4th/08.all the blame has been laid on TA and it’s so obvious this young man was going places in life and she was his hanger on. Such a SAD story for Travis and these awful stories about him. I wonder who helped her think this crap up? The new woman in her life. No more men for you Jody!!!LOL LOL I hear they want to have a child. How ridiculous!!!

  50. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 12:37 am

    This is why Arias wanted to plead guilty to second degree murder:

    A second-degree murder conviction in Arizona brings at least 10 years in jail, and at most 22 years. For people previously convicted of second-degree murder or certain felonies, the minimum sentence increases to 15 years, and the maximum to 25 years.

    Judges only sentence second-degree murder convicts to life in jail if the case involved a victim under the age of 15, or an unborn child, and the defendant had two or more prior convictions with serious offenses, including second-degree murder, kidnapping or manslaughter. Parole remains possible after 25 years.

  51. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 12:52 am

    I just put something together. it makes total sense that she would create a “cover story” for having the gas cans at all, in case she were asked. The SLC fill up (creating a paper trail) was her attempt to show she was filling them up to SAVE MONEY in Utah. It goes without saying that they were EMPTY in SLC since she’d used them to get out of AZ undetected. She didn’t count on authorities finding her cash receipts from Pasadena. That contradicts her initial “cover story” for the gas cans, so she had to come up with a 2nd cover story. And the 3rd gas can is problematic for that 2nd cover story.You don’t need 15 gallons of extra gas to travel along 1-15 if you’re worried about running out of gas!

  52. Trial watcher
    03/08/2013 at 12:52 am

    OMG!! Dr.Drew’s show tonight mentioned the question.”When u were stabbing Travis were you angry? JA answers,” I had no FEAR, OOPS! I mean I wasn’t angry! OOPS again, I was in the fog.
    Did I really get this correct?? Dr.D’s crew had a lot to say about this slip-up! Interesting or what!! Gotcha JA!

  53. Steven Santos
    03/08/2013 at 1:22 am

    Did Jodi not testify, i believe in direct exam, that she realized what had happened when she heard the knife hit the tile floor as she dropped it?
    Why has this not been addressed?

  54. Trial watcher
    03/08/2013 at 1:39 am

    One Question for Anyone?
    Where was Travis’s dog,”Nappy” during the attack on Travis and for the days after before anyone entered Travis;s home and found him? Was nappy in the house for the 5 days?
    Is he still in the Alexander family?

  55. Schaeffer
    03/08/2013 at 2:12 am

    Janet :
    When JM started bring up the 3 gas receipts, did anyone see after her “true uh oh” emotion on her face, her eyes glaring at him??? My God, those were some “if looks could kill” eyes I have EVER seen!!!! Her eyes were like saying “you damn son of a b*&^%… I truly ate that up, cuz she knew he caught her yet AGAIN in another lie!!

  56. Schaeffer
    03/08/2013 at 2:13 am

    “Twas beautiful!

  57. 03/08/2013 at 2:20 am

    Hey guys, I hear through the grapevine there more PERRY MASON moments from Juan Martinez that are coming on the horizon…I can’t say what that is because it was spoken in confidence but it’s from a reliable source.

    In the meantime, if anyone has been watching HLN (I don’t watch often because the talking heads are annoying) but I do catch the Dr. Drew segments once in a while and they posted some poignant and revealing clips of Travis Alexander, one him doing the Chicken Dance where he just looks like a loveable goofball, totally outgoing and just having a great time.

    Also posted was a video of Travis Alexander and Jodi Arias with a group of about 20 friends and he’s telling a story of how he was robbed at gunpoint and lo and behold, who does he happen to have his arm around? Why, it’s none other than Jodi Arias. Remember she claimed that she was his “dirty little secret” and he never showed any affection towards her in public. Well that’s not the case in this video.

    Here are the links for both:

    Chicken Dance — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7DVF_S5ZpI
    PDA Travis/Jodi — http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/05/new-exclusive-jodi-and-travis-video?clusterId=1303#videoplayer

    Also things of note is how the story that Travis is telling is eerily similar to 2nd lie Jodi told Detective Flores about the Ninja invasion.

  58. Heather
    03/08/2013 at 2:43 am

    Walmart does return items for cash when a receipt is present within a certain time limit. However, there WOULD be a record of the return. That crazy loon never returned it. Martinez nailed her again! She is diabolical

  59. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 4:54 am

    donchais :
    You don’t coddle the likes of a savage, brutal, lying, manipulating bitch such as Arias.

    Don’t hold back donchais – tell us how you really feel!!! :-)
    BTW, I totally agree!

    JM got me so riled up and thrilled that I can’t sleep – have no idea how the hell I’m going to make it until Wednesday!

  60. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 5:23 am

    donchais :
    Yikes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8MxOfIWlFc

    Yikes is right! I think that is as close as we are ever going to come to seeing exactly what happened. I was pleased to see that someone (10 hours ago) sent this to JM. As for Bryan Carr – let’s not encourage the loon. (no offence to the poor bird)

    Donchais says:

    Swear, if I could reach through the screen, I’d slap the crap out of Jodi’s mother for sitting in court giggling with her friend!!! No wonder her spawn acts the way she does!!!
    ________________________________________________________________________

    You and me both. Did you happen to notice that Mama wasn’t wearing the large MOM necklace in court? I think it is the first day I have not seen it on her – maybe after the comments about their relationship she’s not too happy or she is finally realizing who and what her daughter truly is (that is, if she honestly didn’t know prior, which I think she did).

  61. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 6:35 am

    Donchais

    Thanks for the start time update. That will make it a bit better as it will be 2:00 for me or 2:30 for those of you in Newfoundland. Hopefully with this extra time, the powers to be can get the case moving a bit more quickly which is very hard between the short weeks, just two days next week and the never ending sidebars. That poor jury must be going out of their mind, not to mention what it is doing to the family of TA!

  62. greykitty
    03/08/2013 at 6:43 am

    Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 7:12 am

      Well, we aren’t on the jury and have tons more information they don’t have. You are entitled to your opinion!

  63. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 7:16 am

    Steven Santos :
    Did Jodi not testify, i believe in direct exam, that she realized what had happened when she heard the knife hit the tile floor as she dropped it?
    Why has this not been addressed?

    I think that all happened during her “fog” but what she said was that she only “remembered dropping the knife” – next thing she knew she was out in the desert.

  64. ritanita
    03/08/2013 at 9:08 am

    Donchais, I can’t believe I just read all these wonderful comments!

    I was out in the afternoon, so thanks for the summary of what little I missed of the Nurmi-Jodi Show.

    I also have it on good authority that Martinez has a few more Perry Mason moments planned.

    I was shocked to hear that they had the suicide letters ready to be admitted into testiphony! I would guess that the ONLY way they might have crept into the case would have been if Nurmi had received them in a still-sealed envelope, complete with cancelled stamp and date on them.

    Funny, they weren’t found during the search warrant in the grandparents’ house in 2008! Since they obviously seized other exemplars of Jodi’s handwriting, the writing on the SEALED envelope would have been enough probably cause to seize it.

    Anyhow, I sincerely doubt that the grandparents ever received the envelope.

    Tough, Jodi. If you had indeed committed suicide, they would have been admissible as a deathbed statement! LOL!

    I don’t think the jury is buying much of Jodi’s “fog” at all. They challenged her on the lying issue and she again made those self-serving statements.

    IMHO, I think Juan Martinez is only going to question Jodi on the jury question about lying. He may not be able to finish up this line of attack until his rebuttal case. He could call a Wal-Mart executive to verify his statement that there was no return of a gas can. A Casa Ramos representative or Jodi’s former manager might testify that she never came to him/her for a Band-Aid for a boo-boo on her finger. The person could also testify that IF she did, it would have been reported to her Workman’s Comp insurer.

    As for Matt, he is on the defense witness list. If Nurmi calls him, he wouldn’t dare lie on the stand. He knows Martinez has the goods on him. There is some possibility that, if Nurmi doesn’t call him, Martinez could. However, Matt has stated he wants no part of this case and interstate subpoenas take a long time. Martinez has managed to bring him up numerous times and this may be a threat to Nurmi not to put him on the stand to lie. No Matt, no corroboration.

    Whew! I’m long-winded today. I suppose I could write more, but I think you can tell I’m dancing on air right now! I promised myself to use the long weekend to clean the whole house,tend to my recuperating cat, and play with my two little kittens. I’ve ignored them all way too much! That goes for DH as well. Poor guy has all the take-out menus next to the phone!

  65. Janet
    03/08/2013 at 9:23 am

    donchais :Martinez has a stellar record of convictions. He is doing nothing different than his usual prosecution that is awesome to behold.
    You don’t coddle the likes of a savage, brutal, lying, manipulating bitch such as Arias.
    Nope, he’s spot on and the jury sure appears to be getting it!
    Not aware of a woman friend testifying.

    donchais, maybe it’s not a woman, but the name sounded like “Alice” to me, spelled Alyce Laviolette.

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 9:28 am

      Alyce LaViolette is Arias’ domestic violence expert…didn’t think of her as a ‘woman friend’ testifying. Who knows!

  66. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 10:03 am

    Jodi Arias made statements to Flores, the media and the jury that shows she has the thinking of a sociopath/psychopath.

    “If I killed somebody, I would wear gloves. I have plenty of them.”

    “If I killed Travis, I would show him mercy. I would shoot him. I’d never stab him.”

    “I didn’t kill Travis. I have many ex boyfriends and they are all alive.”

    “I would never kill Travis because I believe in the ten commandments: Thou Shall Not Kill.”

    “I loved Travis on June 4, 2008 (when she was stabbing him to death, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head) and I still do but in a different way.”

    “I didn’t call 911 because even though I was fighting for my life, I didn’t see it that way. I felt I did something wrong.”

    “I didn’t know if he was dead or alive because I never killed anyone before.”

    “I thought if you pointed a gun at someone loaded or not they’d stop” and she puts her hands up as if she is surrendering to police.

    “I didn’t even know he was shot after the gun went off. He didn’t act any different. He was still angry, threatening my life and pulling on my clothes and trying to get control of me.”

    “I have no memory of stabbing Travis or dragging his body. I guess I must have blacked out.”

    “I don’t know how the bullet casing got in the blood because there was no blood when I shot him.”

    “I had no fear – I mean anger – when I was stabbing Travis.”

    “I can remember feelings but not details when I am in a blackout.”

    “I remember I was in mortal terror that day.”

    “I made up the story I told police to fit the forensics.”

    “I called the police to find out what they knew to see if I was going to be arrested.”

    “I didn’t tell the police about the pedophilia or abuse because I thought it would look like I had a motive.”

    “I was free to date because I was single.”

    “I confronted Travis about making out with a woman because although we weren’t boyfriend/girlfriend he was courting me.”

    “I did television interviews because I wanted to protect Travis’s and my relationship.”

    “I lied to the police about killing Travis because I wanted to protect Travis’ reputation.”

    “I said no jury would convict me because I planned to commit suicide.”

    “I tried to commit suicide once but when I nicked my wrist, it stung.”

    “I have a very good memory except when I am under stress or someone is yelling at me.”

    “I don’t usually lie. I only lied about killing Travis to protect his memory and I was scared and ashamed for anyone to know I was capable of doing such a thing.”

    “I slept with him after I discovered he had an attraction to children because I thought he would stay away from children if he slept with me.”

    “I’m telling the truth now because I am under oath.”

    “I swore to tell the truth to the best of my ability.”

  67. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 10:14 am

    Correction: Sentence should read: “I don’t know how the bullet casing got in the blood because there was no blood when the gun went off.”

  68. Rache
    03/08/2013 at 10:36 am

    greykitty :
    Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    Perhaps you would be more comfortable at the jodi arias is innocent website.

  69. hottopic08
    03/08/2013 at 10:45 am

    These jurors have her number. Breaking some of the questions into parts is brilliant! She answers the question and then has to change up her answer to fit with the second part of the question when it’s asked. This is how she needs to be questioned! This method of questioning shows how she can lie on the spot never missing a beat. Brilliant!

  70. NancyB
    03/08/2013 at 10:50 am

    donchais :
    Yikes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8MxOfIWlFc

    Yikes is right! Thanks for posting this. By the way, were JA’ suicide letters admitted into evidence yesterday? I’m hoping not, because I don’t see the relevancy of them.

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 10:51 am

      Not sure the Judge ruled on the letters.

  71. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 10:55 am

    Ok, even though it’s a dark Friday and not even time for court to start, I’m already having trial withdrawal. I have no idea how I’m going to get through until Wednesday. Plus I still haven’t slept! Damn. :-(

    I don’t suppose that it has ANYTHING to do with the fact that I’m so invested in this trial……….. nah, didn’t think so. I was the same way during the Casey Anthony trial but since she didn’t open her mouth, it didn’t bother me to the same extent.

    I did spend a lot of time reading Travis’ MySpace, blog and going over the exhibits through the night. He seemed like such a nice guy with an ever brighter future. I’m so sorry that he didn’t get to live out his dreams and I’m even more sorry that I didn’t know him personally!

  72. Janet
    03/08/2013 at 10:56 am

    Rache :

    greykitty :Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    Perhaps you would be more comfortable at the jodi arias is innocent website.

    ROFLMAO!!! Good one Rache!!

  73. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 10:57 am

    Rache :

    greykitty :
    Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    Perhaps you would be more comfortable at the jodi arias is innocent website.

    Rache, I almost posted the exact same thing! lol

  74. 03/08/2013 at 11:02 am

    Observer that’s very clever. Putting all her quotes together like that makes her sound even more ridiculous and insane.

  75. 03/08/2013 at 11:05 am

    greykitty :
    Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    It pretty much went downhill after she told her second lie and it’s still pretty much going downhill now after being caught out in yet another lie about the gas cans and the other inconsistencies.

    Which trial are you watching BTW?

  76. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 11:09 am

    Observer :
    Jodi Arias made statements to Flores, the media and the jury that shows she has the thinking of a sociopath/psychopath.
    “If I killed somebody, I would wear gloves. I have plenty of them.”
    “If I killed Travis, I would show him mercy. I would shoot him. I’d never stab him.”
    “I didn’t kill Travis. I have many ex boyfriends and they are all alive.”
    “I would never kill Travis because I believe in the ten commandments: Thou Shall Not Kill.”
    “I loved Travis on June 4, 2008 (when she was stabbing him to death, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head) and I still do but in a different way.”
    “I didn’t call 911 because even though I was fighting for my life, I didn’t see it that way. I felt I did something wrong.”
    “I didn’t know if he was dead or alive because I never killed anyone before.”
    “I thought if you pointed a gun at someone loaded or not they’d stop” and she puts her hands up as if she is surrendering to police.
    “I didn’t even know he was shot after the gun went off. He didn’t act any different. He was still angry, threatening my life and pulling on my clothes and trying to get control of me.”
    “I have no memory of stabbing Travis or dragging his body. I guess I must have blacked out.”
    “I don’t know how the bullet casing got in the blood because there was no blood when I shot him.”
    “I had no fear – I mean anger – when I was stabbing Travis.”
    “I can remember feelings but not details when I am in a blackout.”
    “I remember I was in mortal terror that day.”
    “I made up the story I told police to fit the forensics.”
    “I called the police to find out what they knew to see if I was going to be arrested.”
    “I didn’t tell the police about the pedophilia or abuse because I thought it would look like I had a motive.”
    “I was free to date because I was single.”
    “I confronted Travis about making out with a woman because although we weren’t boyfriend/girlfriend he was courting me.”
    “I did television interviews because I wanted to protect Travis’s and my relationship.”
    “I lied to the police about killing Travis because I wanted to protect Travis’ reputation.”
    “I said no jury would convict me because I planned to commit suicide.”
    “I tried to commit suicide once but when I nicked my wrist, it stung.”
    “I have a very good memory except when I am under stress or someone is yelling at me.”
    “I don’t usually lie. I only lied about killing Travis to protect his memory and I was scared and ashamed for anyone to know I was capable of doing such a thing.”
    “I slept with him after I discovered he had an attraction to children because I thought he would stay away from children if he slept with me.”
    “I’m telling the truth now because I am under oath.”
    “I swore to tell the truth to the best of my ability.”

    Wow, Observer you have her nailed! Even the statement “I swore to tell the truth………………….” is a lie because she didn’t actually say she WOULD tell the truth just that she swore to it. Besides, she wouldn’t know the truth if it actually kicked her in the head although I do think she completely believes all of the rubbish that she spews.

  77. Nancy Pennington
    03/08/2013 at 11:29 am

    I am worried that in the five days off JA will think of some lie to explain the third dollar amount from the SLC gas station. I don’t think Wurmi will have the opportunity to bring it up but if the jury asks her about it she will no doubt have an answer (she has an answer for everything). This back and forth about the return of the gas can has me going crazy. The only way Walmart would have given her cash is if she paid with cash DID SHE? The original receipt would show that. And if she did pay with cash and they gave her cash she would have had to sign for it so that register would balance at the end of the day!! Also, JM must have more up his sleeve to tie up the loose ends. I think he was pushing her and then dropping it once he had enough of her lies so he could then impeach her with his rebuttal witnesses. Remember, this is a very experienced and excellent prosecutor who know exactly what he is doing! In response to the person that thinks we all have already made up our minds-maybe we have due to the fact that we have heard the forensic evidence and listened to the testimony of JA with all of her lies and contradictions to say nothing about her unsubstantiated claims about Travis. The difference is that we are not the jury and thus do not have to keep our opinions to ourselves at this time.

  78. Nancy Pennington
    03/08/2013 at 11:47 am

    To donchais, someone referred to you as a she..none of my business but are you a Girl or Boy if that is not to personal of a question. Doesn’t make a dif because either way you are a kick and I think it is safe to say that we all love and appreciate your posts.

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 1:27 pm

      Nancy LMAO, female and proud of it!

  79. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 11:47 am

    I’m sure the state had its own psychologists evaluate and test Jodi Arias and they will testify in the state’s rebuttal case that she fits the profile of anti social personality.

    Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of a disregard for other people’s rights, often crossing the line and violating those rights. It usually begins in childhood or as a teen and continues into their adult lives.

    Antisocial personality disorder is often referred to as psychopathy or sociopathy in popular culture.

    Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others. They may have an inflated and arrogant self-appraisal (e.g., feel that ordinary work is beneath them or lack a realistic concern about their current problems or their future) and may be excessively opinionated, self-assured, or cocky. They may display a glib, superficial charm and can be quite voluble and verbally facile (e.g., using technical terms or jargon that might impress someone who is unfamiliar with the topic). Lack of empathy, inflated self-appraisal, and superficial charm are features that have been commonly included in traditional conceptions of psychopathy and may be particularly distinguishing of Antisocial Personality Disorder in prison or forensic settings where criminal, delinquent, or aggressive acts are likely to be nonspecific. These individuals may also be irresponsible and exploitative in their sexual relationships.

  80. Lisa M
    03/08/2013 at 12:41 pm

    Does anyone know why court will be dark on Monday and Tuesday? I just can’t believe how stretched out this is becoming. We already know that since court will only meet for two days next week, that those two days will consist of Jodi up on the stand and we’ll have to wait for yet another week for the defense experts. I for one am looking forward to JM ripping into them because you know he’s going to slam their testimony linking Jodi to battered women’s syndrome and PTSD. I hope JM has his own experts coming up during his redirect. He should put up an actual battered woman but I’m sure that would probably not be allowed. But in any case JM’s got more ammunition against the defense experts now that Jodi has made so many inconsistencies regarding her memory, her fog and her scrambled brain. It’ll be a relief to see JM cross-examine someone other than slippery snake Jodi– if we ever get there and don’t succumb to exhaustion and dehydration brought on by excessive nausea first!

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 1:31 pm

      Lisa M Several jurors had conflicts…it got resolved, but another juror thinking they were off scheduled an out-of-town trip…back to square one. Glad Judge decided to call them in at 10 MST (if they could only start on time without Nurmi doing his whining sidebar start to the day) and hope this will be a new court rule!

  81. Lisa M
    03/08/2013 at 12:54 pm

    MMD :
    Ok, even though it’s a dark Friday and not even time for court to start, I’m already having trial withdrawal. I have no idea how I’m going to get through until Wednesday. Plus I still haven’t slept! Damn.
    I don’t suppose that it has ANYTHING to do with the fact that I’m so invested in this trial……….. nah, didn’t think so. I was the same way during the Casey Anthony trial but since she didn’t open her mouth, it didn’t bother me to the same extent.
    I did spend a lot of time reading Travis’ MySpace, blog and going over the exhibits through the night. He seemed like such a nice guy with an ever brighter future. I’m so sorry that he didn’t get to live out his dreams and I’m even more sorry that I didn’t know him personally!

    I agree, he seems like he must have been such a great guy and his siblings must miss him sorely. I can’t get over how cold and emotionless Jodi is — everything she’s said is a lie, but the truth is there, it’s just staring us in the face, it’s the opposite of whatever she says. Whatever type of relationship she and Travis had, it was not even remotely the way she describes. She wanted more than he did/she became obsessed/she felt rejected/she killed him, end of story. She was never more than a casual girlfriend to him, but she makes it sound like they had this deep, complex relationship. The more she talks the more it seems that way, but the truth is it was probably about 90% one-sided. I just hope by the end of this trial, someone, or a combination of people, will speak for Travis and show that he had a full life, and she was just a tiny part of it until she killed him. She’s continuing to indulge in the fantasy that they shared something special while she’s on the stand, but I’m sure if Travis were here, he’d say none of it is real. You don’t tell a girl about another girl you’re intending to marry unless she’s just a friend or you’re trying to make her understand she’s not your future, someone else is. Maybe it got to the point that he had to show her those photos in order to make it clear to her that they didn’t have a future together. I have some friends like Jodi (to a much lesser degree of course) who become obsessed with guys and even when hit over the head with the reality that the guy isn’t that into them, will still believe they have a chance. Jodi was like that to the nth degree. And a psychopath, too, of course!

  82. monica
    03/08/2013 at 1:05 pm

    andrize :
    Anonymous had a question about where JM was going with the finger/Casa Ramos questioning, and this is what I’m thinking:
    Part of her story about the injury that Ryan Burns testified to was that she did not have any record of seeking medical attention for the finger(s) she cut at Casa Ramos (Margaritaville) and thus couldn’t definitively prove that it did NOT happen when she murdered TA (we’d just have to take her word for it). So, yesterday, one of the juror questions asked something about her employer being aware of the injury or if they had her fill out paperwork – something like that. She then said that no, she didn’t because they were a “small company”, I think she even said something like they weren’t a corporation and thus didn’t have formalities for things that. I thought that the fact the injury happened at work would be something that would make it MORE likely she would have had medical attention for it because it would have been covered by her employer’s Workers’ Compensation insurance – which EVERY employer must have. Then, when I heard her lame excuse, I was hoping that JM would have the opportunity to call her out on this. I have handled Workers’ Comp where I work for nearly 10 years; I can tell you that we ALWAYS err on the side of protecting ourselves (the employer) from possible claims from employees further down the road. Even if the injury was something small, and even if the employee did not seek medical treatment, we still always create a file and notify our insurer of the incident as “information only” because you never know…
    Anyway, the thought that her employer would not do anything is ridiculous to me. I am also in California (where she was working) and there is a mandatory annual labor law poster that must be posted in a work area where all employees can see it. There are federal and state aspects to the information, and one large portion is explicitly about Workers’ Comp, employees’ rights and information on contacting the local WC or OSHA offices in case your employer does not provide you with their insurance information or policy number.
    – Alisa

    i have also worked with many workman comp clams for over two years here in tx. and i know for a fact that every time paper work was printed for an incident. there was always a separate form for cali because cali has so many additinal laws regarding their workers. she is so full of bs. also i happened to have been an asst store mgr for none other then walmart. so i was hoping juan would contact walmart to verify her claim of returning the gas can. there is always a record of every single return. in fact a reciept for a return transaction can be looked up and re- printed for any date since the store was opened. i myself had to do this on many occations. so when juan busted her on that lie. i had a good LOL

  83. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/08/2013 at 1:09 pm

    deni carson (@denibeni07) :

    greykitty :
    Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    It pretty much went downhill after she told her second lie and it’s still pretty much going downhill now after being caught out in yet another lie about the gas cans and the other inconsistencies.
    Which trial are you watching BTW?

    Everyone is entitled to their opinon on this site, however, before you go insinuating that “we had our minds made up before the trial started” it might be a good idea if you go back and read all the transcripts, police reports, coroner’s reports, as well as the forensics and review the lies she told year after year before you pass judgement on anyone else here. JA herself said, “she changed her story to blend in with the forensics, however what she didn’t know at the time was that the police purposely kept some of their findings under wraps. Do you think for one minute that police anywhere are not familiar with the games criminals play to keep suspicion away from them? It is with these documents that you see the other side of the story. You only know what SHE wants you to know and believe! TA is not here to tell his side of what happened. In what world does multiple knife wounds to the back, head, and heart, a slit throat, and a bullet to the head an indication of Self Defense!? This was a young well built, strong young man who suffered many defense wounds before he died and she came through it nearly unscathed (in the words of the jury), explain the self defense? Also, explain how her story does not match the forensics? We could go on and on with our own findings as we waded through all the documents and evidence, however it might serve you well if you take the time to do that yourself before you wonder what trial we are watching.

    Pardon us for sounding off but we’re a group of old ladies (all grandmothers!) who have a few in our group who have experienced many of the down sides life has to offer. We may not have all the answers but at least we inform ourselves and ask questions in order to see the big picture. We can only hope that the tragic end to this young man’s life by such a devious human being, who’s first thought is to lie to fit her needs, never happens to someone you love!! Because then you will hope to have a Prosecutor, as JM, to fight for your loved one who is no longer here to fight for themselves.

    As previously stated……maybe you would be more comfortable on the “Jodi is Innocent” site. Here we share comments and information and offer support.

    We do no speak for the other bloggers, this is just our opinion from our little group!

    OLD LADIES FOR JUSTICE…….is our cry!

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 1:35 pm

      CiCi’s Circle And why the name of this site is ‘Calls For Justice’!

  84. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/08/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Just to clarify…..our message was to GreyKitty not you Deni!!

  85. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 1:25 pm

    Here is a video that was played at the memorial service for Travis in June 2008. I just watched it and the tears are streaming down my face.

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 2:00 pm

      MMD Thanks! OK, got my cry going today. What struck me most and saddened me most was that Travis looked so confident, positive and happy in all the photos. I cannot say the same of the photos with Arias. In those, I always felt he was anxious and not happy!

  86. 03/08/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    I am worried that in the five days off JA will think of some lie to explain the third dollar amount from the SLC gas station. I don’t think Wurmi will have the opportunity to bring it up but if the jury asks her about it she will no doubt have an answer (she has an answer for everything). This back and forth about the return of the gas can has me going crazy. The only way Walmart would have given her cash is if she paid with cash DID SHE? The original receipt would show that. And if she did pay with cash and they gave her cash she would have had to sign for it so that register would balance at the end of the day!! Also, JM must have more up his sleeve to tie up the loose ends. I think he was pushing her and then dropping it once he had enough of her lies so he could then impeach her with his rebuttal witnesses. Remember, this is a very experienced and excellent prosecutor who know exactly what he is doing! In response to the person that thinks we all have already made up our minds-maybe we have due to the fact that we have heard the forensic evidence and listened to the testimony of JA with all of her lies and contradictions to say nothing about her unsubstantiated claims about Travis. The difference is that we are not the jury and thus do not have to keep our opinions to ourselves at this time.

    Rest assured, she can’t lie her way out of this one.

    1. Walmart has no record of a refund.
    2. The receipt was dated about about 4am in the morning and I have heard on another forum that this particular gas station doesn’t sell anything other than gas at that time of day.
    3. She can’t magically produce a receipt because she already admitted that they never gave her one.

    What else can she say? She can’t say she bought snacks or other merchandise.

  87. 03/08/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    Just to clarify…..our message was to GreyKitty not you Deni!!

    No worries! I understood. Thanks for the heads-up though. :-)

  88. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Lisa M :

    MMD :
    I did spend a lot of time reading Travis’ MySpace, blog and going over the exhibits through the night. He seemed like such a nice guy with an ever brighter future. I’m so sorry that he didn’t get to live out his dreams and I’m even more sorry that I didn’t know him personally!

    I agree, he seems like he must have been such a great guy and his siblings must miss him sorely. I can’t get over how cold and emotionless Jodi is — everything she’s said is a lie, but the truth is there, it’s just staring us in the face, it’s the opposite of whatever she says. Whatever type of relationship she and Travis had, it was not even remotely the way she describes. She wanted more than he did/she became obsessed/she felt rejected/she killed him, end of story. She was never more than a casual girlfriend to him, but she makes it sound like they had this deep, complex relationship. The more she talks the more it seems that way, but the truth is it was probably about 90% one-sided. I just hope by the end of this trial, someone, or a combination of people, will speak for Travis and show that he had a full life, and she was just a tiny part of it until she killed him. She’s continuing to indulge in the fantasy that they shared something special while she’s on the stand, but I’m sure if Travis were here, he’d say none of it is real. You don’t tell a girl about another girl you’re intending to marry unless she’s just a friend or you’re trying to make her understand she’s not your future, someone else is. Maybe it got to the point that he had to show her those photos in order to make it clear to her that they didn’t have a future together. I have some friends like Jodi (to a much lesser degree of course) who become obsessed with guys and even when hit over the head with the reality that the guy isn’t that into them, will still believe they have a chance. Jodi was like that to the nth degree. And a psychopath, too, of course!

    I agree with both of you. I hope in the rebuttal case, Martinez will humanize Travis with pictures, video and friends talking about Travis as a successful businessman, a motivational speaker, an adventurer and traveler, a fun loving guy who was looking for the woman of his dreams and ended up with the psyco biotch of his nightmares. For 17 days all the jury has heard is lies that Travis was a pedophile and an abuser. The jury needs to hear from somebody who tells them about the real Travis. Dave Hall, one of Travis closest friends, is going to testify for the prosecution that Travis didn’t own a gun, he knew how to handle guns and borrowed Hall’s gun when they went shooting. I hope he will also testify to Travis’ character. Hall is a staunch Mormon, an executive in Pre Paid Legal and is married with six kids. Hall said on Dateline, Jodi was never interested in being a part of the LDS church, it was obvious she wanted to marry Travis because he made good money as an executive in Pre-Paid Legal, owned his own house and drove a Mercedes and as soon as Travis dumped her she latched onto Ryan Byrnes, another Mormon and an executive in Pre Paid Legal.

  89. Nancy Pennington
    03/08/2013 at 2:53 pm

    Thanks donchais for your answer. Also thanks for not answering my question with a”yes or no ” or an “I don’t remember”. I’ve heard enough of those to last a life time.

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 2:57 pm

      I did it to the best of my recollection! Bwahahahah!

  90. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :

    deni carson (@denibeni07) :

    greykitty :
    Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    It pretty much went downhill after she told her second lie and it’s still pretty much going downhill now after being caught out in yet another lie about the gas cans and the other inconsistencies.
    Which trial are you watching BTW?

    Everyone is entitled to their opinon on this site, however, before you go insinuating that “we had our minds made up before the trial started” it might be a good idea if you go back and read all the transcripts, police reports, coroner’s reports, as well as the forensics and review the lies she told year after year before you pass judgement on anyone else here. JA herself said, “she changed her story to blend in with the forensics, however what she didn’t know at the time was that the police purposely kept some of their findings under wraps. Do you think for one minute that police anywhere are not familiar with the games criminals play to keep suspicion away from them? It is with these documents that you see the other side of the story. You only know what SHE wants you to know and believe! TA is not here to tell his side of what happened. In what world does multiple knife wounds to the back, head, and heart, a slit throat, and a bullet to the head an indication of Self Defense!? This was a young well built, strong young man who suffered many defense wounds before he died and she came through it nearly unscathed (in the words of the jury), explain the self defense? Also, explain how her story does not match the forensics? We could go on and on with our own findings as we waded through all the documents and evidence, however it might serve you well if you take the time to do that yourself before you wonder what trial we are watching.
    Pardon us for sounding off but we’re a group of old ladies (all grandmothers!) who have a few in our group who have experienced many of the down sides life has to offer. We may not have all the answers but at least we inform ourselves and ask questions in order to see the big picture. We can only hope that the tragic end to this young man’s life by such a devious human being, who’s first thought is to lie to fit her needs, never happens to someone you love!! Because then you will hope to have a Prosecutor, as JM, to fight for your loved one who is no longer here to fight for themselves.
    As previously stated……maybe you would be more comfortable on the “Jodi is Innocent” site. Here we share comments and information and offer support.
    We do no speak for the other bloggers, this is just our opinion from our little group!
    OLD LADIES FOR JUSTICE…….is our cry!

    Atta go CiCi’s Circle!!! greykitty – the name of the site should have been your first clue but since it wasn’t, most of the people on this site probably know as much about the evidence as the attorneys. We have plowed through it all, discussed it among ourselves, listened to talking heads, obtained opinions and info from numerous other areas and watched all of the testiphony In other words, we have done our homework. We all are entitled to our opinions that’s why everybody has one. If the jury is paying attention, then hopefully they will come to the same conclusions we have.

    Most importantly, CiCi’s Circle is one of the most respected group of bloggers on this site!!!

    You have a nice day now greykitty. :-).

  91. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 3:14 pm

    donchais :
    MMD Thanks! OK, got my cry going today. What struck me most and saddened me most was that Travis looked so confident, positive and happy in all the photos. I cannot say the same of the photos with Arias. In those, I always felt he was anxious and not happy!

    Sorry about that donchais and I agree with everything you said. It also seemed like TA had a really well rounded life, enthusiastically tried new things, like skydiving, etc. and had so many male and female friends. His eyes lit up when he smiled in every photo,

  92. donchais
    03/08/2013 at 3:19 pm

    HEADS UP FOLKS!

    BEEN HOLDING THE FEW I RECOGNIZED OFF FOR A FEW DAYS NOW, BUT IT APPEARS THE TROLLS ARE OUT AND ABOUT IN FULL FORCE.

    YES, I DO ALLOW DIFFERING OPINIONS, BUT WHEN THEY GET DOWNRIGHT NASTY AND BEYOND STUPID, THEY ARE KICKED TO THE CURB!

    IF A TROLL, UNDERSTAND YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED PAST COMMENT MODERATION!

    MY SITE, I GET TO SAY, ‘OFF WITH THEIR HEADS’!

    UNDERSTOOD???

  93. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 3:45 pm

    Donchais, thank you for monitoring the site and keeping out trolls so we who want Justice for Travis can feel safe to speak out. If the prosecutor plays that video that was played at Travis memorial service in the courtroom, I guarantee the jury will see Travis was a wholesome naive, trusting guy who couldn’t say no to a seductress who drove 1,000 miles to bed him and then murder him in his own shower, where he should feel safe. I didn’t know Travis, although we both lived in Mesa and share the same faith, but my heart goes out to him and his family. Imagine the pain and fear he went through when a woman he had opened his heart and home to butchered him and shot him in the head. What heartbreak his grandmother, siblings and friends must still be going through.

    She had to have planned the attack carefully and ambushed him in the shower or a man of his size and strength could easily have overpowered her. She had to be in a jealous rage or she couldn’t have stabbed him 29 times in the back, belly, chest and heart, slashed his throat and shot him in the head.

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 3:59 pm

      While comment moderation requires an inordinate amount of work, this site, for as long as it remains, will always be about justice for victims, families and friends.

      Travis is just one of the many that deserve our love and support!

  94. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/08/2013 at 4:01 pm

    MMD :

    donchais :
    MMD Thanks! OK, got my cry going today. What struck me most and saddened me most was that Travis looked so confident, positive and happy in all the photos. I cannot say the same of the photos with Arias. In those, I always felt he was anxious and not happy!

    Sorry about that donchais and I agree with everything you said. It also seemed like TA had a really well rounded life, enthusiastically tried new things, like skydiving, etc. and had so many male and female friends. His eyes lit up when he smiled in every photo,

    Thanks MMD! We appreciate the acknowledgement! As we said we’re not that experienced with all this blogging stuff and when we looked around for a site to get informed, they were downright ugly! Boy….the way they talk to each other is scary! We’re glad we found this site…..informative and friendly!

  95. katz63md
    03/08/2013 at 4:24 pm

    MMD – thanks for the video. Makes me remember this is about a man who was brutally murdered by a psycho instead of just a trial about that psycho.

    One think that did creep me out in the video are the pictures that Jodie took that are in there, ~shiver~

  96. greykitty
    03/08/2013 at 4:27 pm

    Why do you assume that I have not been watching the trial everyday and reading and researching? By the way I am a retired g’ma also…..just see things differently based upon my life experiences and having been a social worker who worked with abused women. Anyway, I will go away and leave you all to your happy little circle. Sorry for the intrusion. Bye.

  97. katz63md
    03/08/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Just finished reading the settlement conference statement. I wonder how long it took JM to stop laughing at that document. :)

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 4:47 pm

      Think he may still be and even harder now! :-)

  98. Janet
    03/08/2013 at 4:54 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :

    deni carson (@denibeni07) :

    greykitty :Wow! Sounds like you all are watching a different trial. Did you have your minds made up before the trial even started? If so, that is not justice. I sincerely hope the jury is with-holding judgement until the trial is over.

    It pretty much went downhill after she told her second lie and it’s still pretty much going downhill now after being caught out in yet another lie about the gas cans and the other inconsistencies.Which trial are you watching BTW?

    Everyone is entitled to their opinon on this site, however, before you go insinuating that “we had our minds made up before the trial started” it might be a good idea if you go back and read all the transcripts, police reports, coroner’s reports, as well as the forensics and review the lies she told year after year before you pass judgement on anyone else here. JA herself said, “she changed her story to blend in with the forensics, however what she didn’t know at the time was that the police purposely kept some of their findings under wraps. Do you think for one minute that police anywhere are not familiar with the games criminals play to keep suspicion away from them? It is with these documents that you see the other side of the story. You only know what SHE wants you to know and believe! TA is not here to tell his side of what happened. In what world does multiple knife wounds to the back, head, and heart, a slit throat, and a bullet to the head an indication of Self Defense!? This was a young well built, strong young man who suffered many defense wounds before he died and she came through it nearly unscathed (in the words of the jury), explain the self defense? Also, explain how her story does not match the forensics? We could go on and on with our own findings as we waded through all the documents and evidence, however it might serve you well if you take the time to do that yourself before you wonder what trial we are watching.
    Pardon us for sounding off but we’re a group of old ladies (all grandmothers!) who have a few in our group who have experienced many of the down sides life has to offer. We may not have all the answers but at least we inform ourselves and ask questions in order to see the big picture. We can only hope that the tragic end to this young man’s life by such a devious human being, who’s first thought is to lie to fit her needs, never happens to someone you love!! Because then you will hope to have a Prosecutor, as JM, to fight for your loved one who is no longer here to fight for themselves.
    As previously stated……maybe you would be more comfortable on the “Jodi is Innocent” site. Here we share comments and information and offer support.
    We do no speak for the other bloggers, this is just our opinion from our little group!
    OLD LADIES FOR JUSTICE…….is our cry!

    AMEN CICI’s Circle!!!! You spoke for me(as a blogger) also!!

  99. Chrissie A
    03/08/2013 at 5:00 pm

    Commerce1 :
    There is absolutely no way a person could kill another in the violent, vicious manner that Jodi killed Travis without suffering significant injuries themselves; especially if it was self-defense. We know by Travis’ wounds he was fighting to defend himself. There is no way……UNLESS the person doing the killing ambushes the person who is killed.
    Ambushing another and attacking “like a Ninja” as she described in one of her police interrogations IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT SELF-DEFENSE.
    This one aspect alone points to pre-meditation: The lack of injuries to Jodi.
    Fry this b*tch already!

    I really hope that the prosecution utilizes the term “Ambush” I have rarely heard that used when it comes to the female gender – it really hits home and sums this all up!

  100. Chrissie A
    03/08/2013 at 5:24 pm

    greykitty :
    Why do you assume that I have not been watching the trial everyday and reading and researching? By the way I am a retired g’ma also…..just see things differently based upon my life experiences and having been a social worker who worked with abused women. Anyway, I will go away and leave you all to your happy little circle. Sorry for the intrusion. Bye.

    I have been an abused women, beaten to the point of near death. Plus I have communicated with others that have had the same experiences. Jodi Arias shows no traits of ever being abused. With some of the verbiage she uses regarding this, it is clear to me that she has done her homework on women in abusive situations. She claims that she shakes and can control it, shaking is a spontaneous involuntary body movement! Plus it would be evident in her voice. Also at the risk of repeating myself, abusers are habitual, not selective, there would be proof in TA’s other relationships. If you have been a social worker for abused women you should know this.

    • janet
      03/08/2013 at 6:53 pm

      @Chrissie A. 1st let me say, I’m so sorry you have been through that! It pretty much takes “been there, done that” to be able to distinguish someone such as SkankyBooBoo, who makes that claim , harder for those who truly have been there! I will be so angry when the defense has their “expert” witness try to convince the jury, & everyone that she was abused by Travis. There is no level low enough for Jodi to stoop to, just to avoid taking responsibility for her actions. I truly don’t know how Squirmi & Jodi can sleep at night!

  101. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 5:27 pm

    katz63md :
    MMD – thanks for the video. Makes me remember this is about a man who was brutally murdered by a psycho instead of just a trial about that psycho.
    One think that did creep me out in the video are the pictures that Jodie took that are in there, ~shiver~

    Your welcome. We are so inundated with the sex/k-y talk, lies, obfuscating of facts, fog, JA and Wurmi show, exhibits and what questions the jurors are asking the past couple of days, sometimes Travis as the person and not just a name, warts and all. who lost his life in such a violent matter, gets forgotten. I found it a really good reminder of what he, his family, friends, etc. have lost and will never get back no matter the verdict.

    I know the video moved me tremendously. I sobbed throughout it.

  102. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 5:29 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Commerce1 :
    There is absolutely no way a person could kill another in the violent, vicious manner that Jodi killed Travis without suffering significant injuries themselves; especially if it was self-defense. We know by Travis’ wounds he was fighting to defend himself. There is no way……UNLESS the person doing the killing ambushes the person who is killed.
    Ambushing another and attacking “like a Ninja” as she described in one of her police interrogations IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT SELF-DEFENSE.
    This one aspect alone points to pre-meditation: The lack of injuries to Jodi.
    Fry this b*tch already!

    I really hope that the prosecution utilizes the term “Ambush” I have rarely heard that used when it comes to the female gender – it really hits home and sums this all up!

    I agree with both of you. Ambush totally sums up the entire attack!

  103. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 5:44 pm

    greykitty :
    Why do you assume that I have not been watching the trial everyday and reading and researching? By the way I am a retired g’ma also…..just see things differently based upon my life experiences and having been a social worker who worked with abused women. Anyway, I will go away and leave you all to your happy little circle. Sorry for the intrusion. Bye.

    Anyone who works with abused women should know Jodi Arias does not fit the profile of an abused woman and Travis Alexander doesn’t fit the profile of the abuser or pedophile. Jodi Arias is a pathological liar, controlling narcissistic sociopath who murdered Travis in cold blood and now is trying to get away with it by blaming the victim and putting him on trial.

  104. MMD
    03/08/2013 at 5:54 pm

    Chrissie A :

    greykitty :
    Why do you assume that I have not been watching the trial everyday and reading and researching? By the way I am a retired g’ma also…..just see things differently based upon my life experiences and having been a social worker who worked with abused women. Anyway, I will go away and leave you all to your happy little circle. Sorry for the intrusion. Bye.

    I have been an abused women, beaten to the point of near death. Plus I have communicated with others that have had the same experiences. Jodi Arias shows no traits of ever being abused. With some of the verbiage she uses regarding this, it is clear to me that she has done her homework on women in abusive situations. She claims that she shakes and can control it, shaking is a spontaneous involuntary body movement! Plus it would be evident in her voice. Also at the risk of repeating myself, abusers are habitual, not selective, there would be proof in TA’s other relationships. If you have been a social worker for abused women you should know this.

    I’m with you Chrissie A. I’m sorry that you had to go through so much abuse. I was in a very abusive marriage long ago but luckily I got out fairly quickly.

    In my opinion, JA has gone through the check list of what constitutes a battered woman and has tried to implement EVERY single one of them. It is so obvious that I would think that a social worker would pick up on that immediately. It’s like an addict or an alcoholic, there are some signs and symptoms that are always the same but every situation is unique and has different aspects of the disease. I feel that her battered woman defense is an insult to those who are truly battered. After all, she is the one that drove 1,000 miles for sex not Travis. Throw in the fact that she is a psychopath and pathological liar and you have a hell of a mess because sadly there will be those who will believe her.

    When this case is done and over, I feel it is truly going to hinder battered women who will have a much harder time being believed in the already biased court system. She is pushing back hard won progress for women on so many levels.

    getting off soapbox now………….

  105. NancyB
    03/08/2013 at 5:55 pm

    Besides the domestic violence experts & Matt, also on the defense witness lists.. not saying they will be called…Two friends and two former girlfriends of Travis’ & Kimberly Ross, Arias’ former cell mate. Nancy Grace tweeted that Ross has a long rap sheet.

  106. 03/08/2013 at 6:21 pm

    MMD, thank you ever so much for the video shown at Travis’ memorial. What a poignant memory in time. The sadness is deafening. I found myself having a hard time rationally believing he is gone. I cannot imagine how his family gets through each day listening to all the vileness JA spews forth about him in order to save herself.

    I know that JM will take her down , but yesterday found myself talking to him through the tv to slow down a bit as he seemed so incensed at her lies that he would stumble over his words. So glad he had the last word for 5 days. SOL Nurmi. I was surprised JA (should not be) that JA is ready to take on Walmart regarding her cash refund with no receipt. Such arrogance!! JM will do right by his family.

  107. 03/08/2013 at 7:18 pm

    MMD :
    Here is a video that was played at the memorial service for Travis in June 2008. I just watched it and the tears are streaming down my face.

    Beautiful memories…..a heartbreak to watch. How the family got through that service….especially Grandma……is beyond belief! And to think JA had the gall to park her sorry ass there like a wolf in a sheep’s desguise!

  108. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 7:28 pm

    If Jodi was a battered woman, no way would she be argumentative, smart ass and snarky with a prosecutor. A battered woman is subservient and learns to keep her mouth shut because she is used to being smacked around if she says the wrong thing. A battered woman cowers when a man yells at her becauser she expects to get hit or kicked. Jodi is a controlling know it all who can’t shut her yap even when her life depends on it.

    When Martinez asked, “You showed up at Salt Lake City with three gas cans, didn’t you?” She replied, “I was never in Salt Lake City. Ryan lives in West Jordan.” Martinez points to the receipt from the gas station and said, “Doesn’t it say SLC, Salt Lake City?” She also refused to answer a question because Martinez referred to experts as psychologists or counselors.

    I’m sure the jury is watching her behavior and wondering how Travis could put up with her for two minutes. It’s understandable why Travis would text her that he was sick of her bullcrap, her lies, her crying all the time, that she never cared about anything that didn’t involve her, that she is wearing him down and is an evil sociopath. She introduced those texts as proof that Travis was mean to her. She doesn’t have a clue what it is like to be with a mean man.

    Watching Lisa on the stand looking wholesome and sweet and answering questions from the defense and prosecutor in a polite respectful manner, I could clearly see why Travis would prefer Lisa over Jodi.

  109. Chrissie A
    03/08/2013 at 7:39 pm

    @MMD & @Janet Thanks – It was a long time ago for me also, but it’s something that never leaves you. (in fact I was shaking while writing about it) It just infuriates me when I see her playing the victim of abuse, I’ll probably need some calming tea on the ready when the defense expert witness takes the stand :-)

  110. Chris
    03/08/2013 at 8:06 pm

    Thanks for the Daylight Savings Time update! If it weren’t for you posting this I’d have been so confused. Useful information and also an interesting piece of trivia ;) I never knew AZ didn’t observe DST.

  111. 03/08/2013 at 8:16 pm

    NancyB :
    Besides the domestic violence experts & Matt, also on the defense witness lists.. not saying they will be called…Two friends and two former girlfriends of Travis’ & Kimberly Ross, Arias’ former cell mate. Nancy Grace tweeted that Ross has a long rap sheet.

    Any ideas as to what the former cellmate has to add to all of this?

  112. Trial watcher
    03/08/2013 at 8:39 pm

    OMG!! I just read it!!
    I had no FEAR, I mean Anger when I was stabbing him!!
    Does JAA think that the jury didn’t notice this LITTLE slip?
    This such a telling answer it;s hard to believe that ANYONE
    fighting for their life could make such a BAD mistake;
    especially being as the questions were coming from the jury
    through the judge, can;t blame this on stress or JM;s
    posturing..DP coming up!!!

  113. Chrissie A
    03/08/2013 at 9:14 pm

    Just saw this link, it’s the last picture of Travis that has been put into face mirror software which splits the image of a face in half, and then mirrors it back – both the left and right sides are shown here::

    http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/travis-alexanders-last-photograph.html

  114. Rache
    03/08/2013 at 9:40 pm

    donchais,
    Jodi had not met Travis’ siblings. I know the one sister lives in California. Do you know where the other sisters and brother (in attendance at the trial) live?

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 9:44 pm

      Can’t say, but will check! Btw, Sam, sis from CA is in LE!

  115. Observer
    03/08/2013 at 9:50 pm

    Trial watcher :
    OMG!! I just read it!!
    I had no FEAR, I mean Anger when I was stabbing him!!
    Does JAA think that the jury didn’t notice this LITTLE slip?
    This such a telling answer it;s hard to believe that ANYONE
    fighting for their life could make such a BAD mistake;
    especially being as the questions were coming from the jury
    through the judge, can;t blame this on stress or JM;s
    posturing..DP coming up!!!

    After Jodi said that, she said she felt feelings when she was in a blackout. Every time she opens her mouth she makes a mistake. She doesn’t believe she is going to get the death penalty. She said so in a motion filed in 2011 where she agreed to plead to second degree murder, hinting at a 12 year sentence. Martinez wouldn’t even consider it. I think she is enjoying being on TV and talking about herself. She did three TV interviews after she was arrested. She knows there will be no TV cameras where she is going so she will stay on the stand until the judge kicks her off..

  116. donchais
    03/08/2013 at 10:20 pm

    FOR YOU NEANDERTHAL TROLLS…I CAN EASILY SHUT THIS SITE DOWN, BUT I WON’T GIVE YOU THE SATISFACTION. YOU CAN FLOOD COMMENTS AND THE SITE EMAIL, BUT YOU’RE STILL BOTTOM-FEEDING SCUM WHO AREN’T WORTH THE EFFORT TO PISS ON!

    TAKE YOUR BLOG WHORE, POISIONOUS, DEMENTED, VENOM ELSEWHERE, YOU’LL GET NO FURTHER RESPONSE HERE, MORONS!

  117. Dramsop
    03/08/2013 at 10:29 pm

    Just some thoughts to poke more wholes in Arias’ swiss cheese story:
    First off – who tears out diary pages and then KEEPS them to produce years later?

    When Arias was talking to Flores, he handed her a notepad and I’m pretty sure she wrote with her left hand. Wurmi magically produces diary pages from a few days after Travis allegedly broke her finger. If she does indeed write with her left hand, and her finger was in a splint- at the time of the diary entry – the writing looked pretty natural to me!! I know she said she is both right and left handed depending on the activity. I’d love to see JM challenge that- get her to write an unfamiliar word with each hand and see how well they match. In terms of handwriting, Truly ambidextrous people are rare and the handwriting is also very rarely identical. I’d love even more if Wurmi’s ambush tactics backfired on them!

    In one part of her testiphony ( seriously, that word should be patented) she said the gun was knocked out of her hand and they both fell back toward the trash can. Huh? If Travis was just hit with a speeding bullet, I’m pretty sure he would fall in the same direction the bullet was travelling, no? Not toward it? In another version she says he lunged at her and they both fell wrestling to the floor? And yet another that “he was still pulling at my clothes and trying to control me”. …more like (if that were at all true) he was grabbing at anything he could to try to steady himself as he was losing consciousness.

    This is so sickening. Fry the Freak already. And MMD- thank you for the memorial video. He really was a beautiful child and a valued human being – this is so wrong that his life ended like this.

  118. Dramsop
    03/08/2013 at 10:33 pm

    OOPS! I meant * holes not *wholes….although the WHOLE testimony is BS and watching too much of it makes my brain spongy.

  119. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 10:36 pm

    So sorry you are dealing with this Donchais, all the legit peeps on the blog really appreciate your time and the brilliant job you are doing here :-)

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 10:40 pm

      Ta!

  120. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 10:47 pm

    donchais :
    Ta!

    It’s Chrissie A, here not sure why I am coming up as Annonymous?

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 10:51 pm

      Chrissie A Thanks hon…not sure why I’m even up, lol!

      See if ya have to fill your name in again…seems couple folks had the same WordPress problem…sorry, its automatic and I have no control other that to report the problem which I will do!

  121. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 10:50 pm

    Well said, Anonymous!! We really do appreciate this Donchais!! I have no idea how moderating a blog works but I hope you can somehow block or recognize the nasty crap quickly without being forced to read through the whole message. They don’t deserve even that much of your time !!

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 10:54 pm

      Dramsop They change email and ip’s. Can usually see it’s crap quickly, just a pita.

      Huh, you just came through anon also!

      Off to WP help!

      Thanks guys!

  122. Dramsop
    03/08/2013 at 11:01 pm

    donchais :
    They change email and ip’s. Can usually see it’s crap quickly, just a pita.
    Huh, you just came through anon also!
    Off to WP help!
    Thanks guys!

    i did, too! It was / is dramsop. :) hang in there!

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 11:06 pm

      Ah, that may be the answer to anon! Ya may have to assign your id to it again. This came through fine! :-)

  123. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 11:20 pm

    donchais :
    Ah, that may be the answer to anon! Ya may have to assign your id to it again. This came through fine!

    Just testing to see if this comes thru as me (Chrissie A) I’m on West coast time and the Dateline edition on JA just came on MSNBC and my wonderful hubby called me in to see if I wanted to watch it, bless him :-) I’m trying to stay away from general media on this case but may be I’ll give it a looksee. Donchais, I’ve moderated chats on Livestream and I know how much work it is, thanks again and get some rest :-)

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 11:24 pm

      Chrissie, came through as anon again…has your email addy or ip addy changed?

  124. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 11:29 pm

    donchais :
    Chrissie, came through as anon again…has your email addy or ip addy changed?

    No and I’m signed in, I’ll close my browser, sign in and out again and see what happens :-)

  125. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 11:32 pm

    Chrissie A back again to see if I am anon or what :-)

    • donchais
      03/08/2013 at 11:36 pm

      yup, still…can you send a screen shot to the blog email…no one will see but me

  126. trial Watcher
    03/08/2013 at 11:36 pm

    hey GREY KITTY don’t split on us!! I thought we were all welcome here r we not?
    Anyway I want to ask u GREY KITTY a question. DO u believe any of what she is saying about the abuse part of Travis and I DON’T mean the sex. I mean actual abuse based on u telling us u have expieriance in domestic type abuse right? DO u think he was really abusive to the point of killing him on June 4th? I mean “Mr.Cinabon” sounds rather nice to me. BUT I’m lucky enough to be able to say I know nothing of abuse personally. So what do u say my friend?

  127. 03/08/2013 at 11:45 pm

    I know it is late for some of you but I am in CA. Is JA using JM to further her self defense in regards to his posturing, tone of voice,etc. that causes her thought process to scramble, since she always puts JM and Travis in the same sentence regarding that issue and that is why he (JM) pounds her when he wants clarification?

  128. Anonymous
    03/08/2013 at 11:59 pm

    It’s Chrissie A here’s the screen shot and you can see my name in the top right;

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 12:16 am

      Chrissie, saw and deleted because I didn’t want anybody to have that info..Send after you write a msg and before you hit send so I can see what that looks like…send to donchais@gmail.com…Ta

  129. Nancy Pennington
    03/09/2013 at 12:10 am

    To Vickee: I am in your same time zone, still obsessing about this case. I think JA will use whatever she can to prove her ridiculous defense. Hopefully the jury has noticed that her shaking bs is just that. I saw her drink water several times yesterday when JM was hammering her about the third gas can etc and her hand was NOT shaking. Remember she told the jury that she was shaking thru out JM’s questioning and didn’t even drink water because she did not want him to see it. Just another one of her MANY lies. If she wasn’t traumatized by JM yesterday how can she claim she was earlier. She kept trying to get it out in front of the jury that he was yelling at her and scrambling her brain but that was a pitiful excuse for not having a good lie on the tip of her tongue.

  130. trial Watcher
    03/09/2013 at 12:36 am

    MMD Thank You for the video. Not the first time i had seen it but makes me weep as u did! So Sad! I truly have wondered how JA went to Travis’s memorial service and went through the motions of being upset and dealing with seeing his family. OMG Can u imagine what a real FREAK she is? I think from what’ve I’ve heard it would be another situation that she would get off on. U know here comes the little smirk we all hate her for .

  131. Anonymous
    03/09/2013 at 12:38 am

    Chrissie A here – sorry for the delay had to get a late dinner together, I’ve noticed that before my comments were awaiting moderation and now they don’t seem to be

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 12:48 am

      Chrissie Only because I’m still awake and way past pillow and blankie time, lol. Still haven’t why you are coming through as Anon…grrrrr. Working it!

  132. Anonymous
    03/09/2013 at 12:57 am

    I’m the same, I have to solve the problem and end staying up till the wee hours until I do, but this may not be you, it may be WordPress as it seems that something has been reset on the page. I hope that you received the e-mail with the before and after screenshots and they are of some help to you

  133. Bethany
    03/09/2013 at 1:06 am

    Observer: “I made up the story I told police to fit the forensics.”
    It seems strange that she would make up a story to fit forensics, yet her lies of self defense don’t fit the forensics now!

  134. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 1:13 am

    Nancy Pennington :
    I am worried that in the five days off JA will think of some lie to explain the third dollar amount from the SLC gas station. I don’t think Wurmi will have the opportunity to bring it up but if the jury asks her about it she will no doubt have an answer (she has an answer for everything). This back and forth about the return of the gas can has me going crazy. The only way Walmart would have given her cash is if she paid with cash DID SHE? The original receipt would show that. And if she did pay with cash and they gave her cash she would have had to sign for it so that register would balance at the end of the day!! Also, JM must have more up his sleeve to tie up the loose ends. I think he was pushing her and then dropping it once he had enough of her lies so he could then impeach her with his rebuttal witnesses. Remember, this is a very experienced and excellent prosecutor who know exactly what he is doing! In response to the person that thinks we all have already made up our minds-maybe we have due to the fact that we have heard the forensic evidence and listened to the testimony of JA with all of her lies and contradictions to say nothing about her unsubstantiated claims about Travis. The difference is that we are not the jury and thus do not have to keep our opinions to ourselves at this time.

    The 3rd gas can purchase from Walmart WAS paid with cash.

  135. greykitty
    03/09/2013 at 2:02 am

    Hey back to you, Trial Watcher….Yes I do believe her about Travis’s abuse. I was married to a very emotionally and verbally abusive man. He only slugged me in the face once and then out of fear I just went along with everything just to keep the peace. One of our sons came to me one day and said that I needed to do something about his Dad because my son said he was going thru every day feeling like he was just one step away from being hit. Emotional and verbal abuse is very powerful and damaging. There were times when he would suddenly go off and call me foul names and yell until my head would just start humming and I would go into a kind of trance. He would grab me around the throat and leave bruises on my arms where he would grab me. An hour later he could act like nothing happened and want to take me out to dinner or shopping. I have been away from him ten yrs now and am still being treated for PTSD. I also shake, even in mild confrontations, but like Jodi I just tense up and grit my teeth and try to control it. I have actually cracked a couple of teeth from the tension in my jaw.

    I dealt with a lot of abused women as a county social worker and usually I could tell they were abused before they ever reported it. We all have different personalities and different levels of coping skills. That does not mean that I think violence and murder are OK, but I do think she emotionally blacked out for a period of time. There is a condition called event specific psychogenic amnesia. It mostly affects women. There are studies which show that 40% of persons convicted of a violent murder cannot remember the worst part of the violence for years after it happened.

    I just think that the system must be allowed to work. We haven’t even heard all of the defense witnesses yet. Both attorneys have a job to do and they both have very different techniques for getting at the truth. Also, even though Travis was well liked and I do feel for his family, my instincts tell me that there was a dark side to Travis that played a part in setting this very sad killing in motion. If I were in their place I would be very upset and angry but I don’t think it serves any good purpose to sit in court in full view of the jury and glare and eye-roll. The judge should put a stop to it but she is obviously not going to. I just think the verdict should be based upon a fair evaluation of the facts presented by both sides without undue influence from the sidelines on either side. I know the system is not perfect but its the best we have and for the most part is pretty good.

    Thanks for inviting me back…sorry this is so long but maybe it will help explain where I’m coming from. Thanks for letting me get my 2 cents worth in. One last thing..JM makes me shake and space out too and i’m not even on trial. :-)

  136. Bethany
    03/09/2013 at 2:24 am

    Dramsop: In one part of her testiphony ( seriously, that word should be patented) she said the gun was knocked out of her hand and they both fell back toward the trash can. Huh? If Travis was just hit with a speeding bullet, I’m pretty sure he would fall in the same direction the bullet was travelling, no? Not toward it? In another version she says he lunged at her and they both fell wrestling to the floor? And yet another that “he was still pulling at my clothes and trying to control me”. …more like (if that were at all true) he was grabbing at anything he could to try to steady himself as he was losing consciousness.

    When I heard all those versions of her story I had the same thoughts as you. None of her stories make sense except for the one where she claims he was reaching for her after she shot him. If that part WERE true it would be more likely he was reaching for her to try to get enough of an anchor to lift himself up to crawl toward a phone to call for help, not to continue to attack her!

  137. Bethany
    03/09/2013 at 3:45 am

    Kristen: Anyone else notice the caveman looking fella in the spectator seats? JA’s guilt so obvious even a caveman knows it!

    I know you made this comment in the previous post but I loved this comment so much I thought it was hilarious. It immediately made me think of Jodi’s female lawyer that spoke at the beginning of the trial. She kinda looks like a caveman with her big head and big hair! 😉

  138. Bethany
    03/09/2013 at 3:49 am

    Also, Nurmi kinda looks like a fat, bald, caveman…even kinda acts like one too! Sorry for all the posts one right after the other I was on a roll and couldn’t stop 😊

  139. janetlynn
    03/09/2013 at 5:51 am

    donchais, thanks again as usual. sorry you’re going through this crap with the TROLLS. if I wanted to waste all of our time, I’d suggest we flood the JA is innocent site but I’m supposed to be far too mature for such things at this point (sigh).

    Anyway, I have to say I caught the “no fear, I mean…” right away, threw my hands out in a “YES” moment and hit DH in the chest, by accident of course. He said that he is watching in another room from now on ha ha.

    Chrissie A, thanks so much for sharing. I too was in an abusive relationship. Although I have experienced the physical side, the emotional and verbal abuse I endured (as I’m sure you have as well), seems to, sadly, have somewhat of a lasting effect on me.

    I shook for years and still do (to the point of dropping tea cups, plates etc.) if being yelled at or I’m aware someone is angry with me. I always have a slight tremor to my hands that infuriates me. I’ve also ground my back teeth down to almost nothing. So, when JA went on about her shaking and jaw clenching, I thought “you have no effing idea you stupid A** B****. Sorry, about the language.

    I was disgusted, angry and insulted….contemporaneously.

  140. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 7:03 am

    Chrissie A :
    Just saw this link, it’s the last picture of Travis that has been put into face mirror software which splits the image of a face in half, and then mirrors it back – both the left and right sides are shown here::
    http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/travis-alexanders-last-photograph.html

    Wow that is truly spooky!!! The person who runs the blog (Eyes for Lies aka Renee) said that it seems like a “fight or flight” look and I agree.

    I don’t know about anyone else here but that photo, untouched, has always haunted me. It seems like when I’m trying to go to sleep that photo pops into my brain. It has always bothered me and I didn’t know why. I thought maybe because it was simply because it was the last photo that was taken of him alive or maybe because it seems like Travis was looking into my very soul.

    Now that I see what Chrissie A posted and went to the site, I truly think that was what Travis was feeling. It just feels right (to me anyway). For all we know he could have sensed that JA was up to no good by her weird actions or a look in her eyes or she could have been holding the knife or the gun on him. It’s something that we’ll never know.

    The only person who knows definitively is JA and hopefully Travis never got to process it fully in his mind.

  141. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 7:30 am

    Donchais

    I’m with the others. Thank you for keeping out the trolls so that we are able to post here safely without being attacked as a person.

    I never post on any other sites because some people who are hiding behind a computer screen are unbelievably cruel. Some of the sites’ comments are truly horrific. That is why I refuse to have a Facebook page. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with my position on anything as long as they explain why. Sometimes you just have to ‘agree to disagree’ and move on. It’s just the trolls who add nothing to the conversation and are only there to attack people that I have a problem with. It truly amazes me what gets posted on so called ‘moderated’ sites.

    You are a true gem donchais and we all so appreciate everything that you do, especially all the time you invest in this site.

    Hugs from all of us!!! :-)

  142. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 7:52 am

    Ya know, it hit me when I was reading what everyone had posted once I FINALLY fell asleep, I would bet money that Squirmi Wurmi has someone taping all the coverage so that they can work on any actions/reactions that JA has that don’t come across as genuine. Well, that would be pretty much everytime she opens her mouth, but I digress.

    We know that they watch HLN because that is how they discovered the friend of TA’s who had to leave the courtroom. They are probably keeping an eye on all the blogs as well to see what the overall sentiment and response is from the general public.

    This is why we probably see so many different JA’s. It’s just too bad (for them) that she can’t seem to stay on script, especially when JM is firing rapid pace questions at her. That’s usually where she stumbles. It is funny though because she can’t help herself, she even corrects her own attorney, if he doesn’t use the exact words she wants. LOL

  143. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 8:14 am

    Nancy Pennington :
    To Vickee: I am in your same time zone, still obsessing about this case. I think JA will use whatever she can to prove her ridiculous defense. Hopefully the jury has noticed that her shaking bs is just that. I saw her drink water several times yesterday when JM was hammering her about the third gas can etc and her hand was NOT shaking. Remember she told the jury that she was shaking thru out JM’s questioning and didn’t even drink water because she did not want him to see it. Just another one of her MANY lies. If she wasn’t traumatized by JM yesterday how can she claim she was earlier. She kept trying to get it out in front of the jury that he was yelling at her and scrambling her brain but that was a pitiful excuse for not having a good lie on the tip of her tongue.

    I am so glad that I am not the only person obsessing about this case as you probably noticed by my rant a week or so ago. I haven’t had a good, solid nights sleep since this damn trial started and I’ve rearranged my schedule so I don’t miss a word of testiphony. I even flip on my laptop BEFORE I get out of bed to see what everyone has posted from the time-zones on the west coast. Heaven help anyone who calls during trial times because I either don’t answer or say sorry, I’m in court! LOL Sorry, I’m digressing again.

    My point is that I always heard that drinking a lot of water showed deception. Now she doesn’t seem to drink as much when Wurmi is questioning her because she knows the questions (can it be any more obvious that she is coached).

    On the other hand, when JM is asking questions, she is constantly drinking. She is also NOT shaking. When the third SLC gas receipts came out I thought she was going to kill JM on the spot, with the daggers of hate she was shooting. She completely forgot that she had said that he intimidated her and kept on drinking lots of water. I really hope that the jury is picking up on that.

    ……..still waiting for the shaking to start………….:-)

  144. 03/09/2013 at 8:43 am

    What a wonderful site you’ve put up donchais – 1st time writing. So many of the same questions I’ve had since this trial started are so right on spot. I hope you can keep the trolls from getting in and hacking into your website – fabulous work on your part and I totally agree how time-consuming it must be to try to keep everyone safe.

    Do have a few comments or questions that may be addressed. I also watch NG, JVM with all their comments, but have to admit the defense attorneys on those shows are driving me nuts. How dare they say Juan Martinez is way too aggressive. Hello, this is about an evil thing (JA-can’t call it a human) that literally butchered one of the most admired people among his peers. Would like to see one of them do a cross in such a trial – never happen. Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate the defense attorneys out there that stand up for our rights, also.

    I love Martinez and this site absolutely gives him the utmost respect he deserves. How dare anyone say that he’s dragging this trial out – what about Urmi? His slo-mo nonsense could put anyone to sleep. Martinez gets up there and starts rattling everyone. Go JM!!! He has to go step-by-step and whatever it takes to get that “thing” the needle. Wonder what he’s got cooking up his sleeve for rebuttal. It is going to be good . . . He has to finish the magazine fiasco, the Matt ex-lover-confidante???, and who knows what else. I’m sure we won’t be snoozing when he rips that “thing” to shreds. He will bring back the true Travis, that is so loved by his family, friends, unknowns etc., not the one that the defense portrayed him to be.

    Those letters that were supposed to be introduced into court by “Mom,” were thrown out because of their authenticity. They were copies, according to Mom, the originals were destroyed – yeah, right! Not sure what the family dynamics are all about and don’t think I want to know!?! Kind of sounds like another trial in the past. And, MMD thank-you for the heart-warming video of Travis – such a love of life and look what happened – beyond sad. Let their be “Justice for Travis,” and let “it ” rot in hell.

    I still don’t get how she got to the laundry room and out of the house without a spot of blood downstairs. You can see the evidence towel looked bloody.Took a shower on top of Travis, had a change of clothes hidden in the house or ??? – any comments. TY for letting me ramble, will continue to follow.

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 8:55 am

      Jessi, welcome aboard!

  145. Janet
    03/09/2013 at 9:17 am

    Chrissie A :
    @MMD & @Janet Thanks – It was a long time ago for me also, but it’s something that never leaves you. (in fact I was shaking while writing about it) It just infuriates me when I see her playing the victim of abuse, I’ll probably need some calming tea on the ready when the defense expert witness takes the stand

    Chrissie A- I also have been a victim of abuse of a different kind, so I know where you are coming from. Yes it does indeed never go away and heightens your suspicion when you see others who show true, actual symptoms. It also infuriates me, and others on this site, her “playing a victim”, and making it much harder for others who are true victims to be believed. Not this Jodi though. She is definitely a psychopath who has done her homework on victims of abuse, and is playing it to the hilt! Sure everyone has a different side to themselves. I’m sure she aggravated Travis enough for his temper to show at times due to her manipulative behavior. Hell it would anybody, who normally doesn’t have, or show a temper. She was obviously the ONLY one who knew what buttons to push with him. So in turn, in reality….SHE is the abuser constantly trying to get him very upset! I believe she also did everything in her power to try and MAKE Travis jealous! This “Kitty” person on this site obviously hasn’t had an open mind about the “true” Jodi, just what Jodi wants everyone to believe. I honestly do not understand how anyone who has truly been abused, can be fooled by this SkankyBooBoo. Travis is not here to defend himself so she can run amok with every accusation her sick mind can come up with. I have NEVER seen her shake when JM has questioned her. It’s totally a combative, and smart ass testimony that she gives to try and outsmart someone who is as experienced as they come! Yes, Travis has a different side to him as we ALL do, and no one can be ruled out NOT to admit this! Everyone has skeletons in their closets, but I do not ,and never will believe that Travis, someone I’ve never met, has skeletons like what she is throwing out there! There is nothing in his past that proves ANY of her accusations of pedophellia (sp) tendencies.. Ok, I’ve rambled enough for now, but I just wanted you to know. Thanks for being honest, and congratulations for being a stronger person because of it!

  146. Janet
    03/09/2013 at 9:32 am

    @MMD- Thanks for putting in that Memorial video for Travis. I had seen it before, and it still makes me sad. He had so much going for him, and seemed like a fun, heartwarming person.. His family or whomever made that did a beautiful job. It’s so sad for the family not only to lose him, but to go through this terrible trial with this vial bitch of a person dragging him through the mud, and not have one ounce of compassion or remorse for what she has caused. She only feels for herself! I hope and pray they get the justice they deserve, so they can go on with their own lives. Even though his reputation has been damaged by her, those who truly knew him, and believe in him, won’t ever believe the vile accusations that she has painted of him. Thanks again….

  147. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 9:40 am

    I think the jurors are realizing from their questions that Martinez is right when he says Jodi lies when it benefits her. All she has is her lies and the facts and evidence prove the state’s theory.

    To determine if it was self defense or premeditated murder, all the jurors have to ask themselves is:

    Why would she lie about the pedophilia? To make the jury hate Travis and think he deserved killing. There was no child porn found in his computer or his house and no evidence he ever molested a child.

    Why would she lie about the physical abuse? To fit with her self defense lie made up years after the crime when she realized the Ninja story was not going to work. There is no evidence or witnesses to corroberate her story. The evidence of Travis’s 29 stab wounds, including defensive wounds and blood in the sink, on the walls and the bedroom rug and her minor scrapes on her fingers show who was the predator and who was the victim.

    Why would she lie about taking the third gas can back to Salinas in Wal-Mart? Because she is hiding the fact that she was filling up cans in California so she didn’t have to stop in Arizona and be seen on survelience tapes.

    Why would she lie about the kids removing one license plate and trying to remove another? Because she removed the license plates so no one could report the car license plates to police if they remembered seeing the car outside of Travis’s house on the day of the killing.

    Why would she lie about the gun? Because if the jurors believe she staged the burglary to steal the gun five days before the murder that means she planned the murder. The odds are a million to one that someone other than Jodi stole that gun five days before the murder and that Travis would own a .25 caliber handgun just like her grandfather’s and leave it sitting on the top of the shelf in his closet loaded and uncocked without the safety on and that an abuser who wanted to kill her would let her get that gun. All of his friends and roommates and Jodi herself told Flores Travis didn’t own a gun. When she was claiming her innocence, she had no reason to lie to Flores about Travis owned a gun. If she did not shoot Travis with her grandfather’s gun, there would be no reason for her to dispose of it after the murder.

    Why would she lie about the gun accidentally going off as he charged her before she stabbed him? Because that absolves her of all responsibility and makes Travis the aggressor. She made up that lie back in 2010 or 2011 based on the fact that Flores told Jodi, the media and testified at a hearing that he believed the gunshot came first. Jodi knew she shot Travis last but she thought the cops were fooled and she wanted her story to fit the cops theory. She didn’t know the medical examiner concluded the gunshot came last because the shell casing landed on top of blood, there was no stipling or bleeding of the brain which means Travis was dead when she shot him and the trajectory shows he was lying on the ground and she was standing over him when he was shot at the sink after she dragged his dead body back to the bathroom.

    Why would she lie about remembering stabbing him and dragging his body back to the bathroom and cleaning up the scene? Because there is no way she can explain why she couldn’t get away and had to stab him 29 times in the back, chest, belly, heart and slit his throat. A battered wife who had endured years of broken bones and chokings who is trapped and sees no way out might kill her abuser in a frenzied attack and remember very little. But even if Travis had abused her, she said she had moved 1,000 miles away in April to escape the abuse. He didn’t go to her Yreka home in June to try to kill her. The only conclusion that makes sense is she went to his home with a gun and a knife to kill him to keep him from going to Cancun with another woman. She distracted himn withg the sex and pictures while she waited for the right opportunity to ambush him.

    Why would she lie about the injuries on her fingers? Because she doesn’t want to admit she injured her fingers stabbing Travis, not at the restaurant or by Travis kicking her.

    Why would she admit she killed Travis now and lied to everybody? To make it look like she is telling the truth now. She even spews psychobabble that after years in jail she realized she had to come clean and tell the terrible secrets rather than hold them in. She has clearly read self help books for women who have been abused.

    The jurors will realize she is lying to them to get away with murder..
    .

  148. Janet
    03/09/2013 at 9:43 am

    Jessi :
    What a wonderful site you’ve put up donchais – 1st time writing. So many of the same questions I’ve had since this trial started are so right on spot. I hope you can keep the trolls from getting in and hacking into your website – fabulous work on your part and I totally agree how time-consuming it must be to try to keep everyone safe.
    Do have a few comments or questions that may be addressed. I also watch NG, JVM with all their comments, but have to admit the defense attorneys on those shows are driving me nuts. How dare they say Juan Martinez is way too aggressive. Hello, this is about an evil thing (JA-can’t call it a human) that literally butchered one of the most admired people among his peers. Would like to see one of them do a cross in such a trial – never happen. Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate the defense attorneys out there that stand up for our rights, also.
    I love Martinez and this site absolutely gives him the utmost respect he deserves. How dare anyone say that he’s dragging this trial out – what about Urmi? His slo-mo nonsense could put anyone to sleep. Martinez gets up there and starts rattling everyone. Go JM!!! He has to go step-by-step and whatever it takes to get that “thing” the needle. Wonder what he’s got cooking up his sleeve for rebuttal. It is going to be good . . . He has to finish the magazine fiasco, the Matt ex-lover-confidante???, and who knows what else. I’m sure we won’t be snoozing when he rips that “thing” to shreds. He will bring back the true Travis, that is so loved by his family, friends, unknowns etc., not the one that the defense portrayed him to be.
    Those letters that were supposed to be introduced into court by “Mom,” were thrown out because of their authenticity. They were copies, according to Mom, the originals were destroyed – yeah, right! Not sure what the family dynamics are all about and don’t think I want to know!?! Kind of sounds like another trial in the past. And, MMD thank-you for the heart-warming video of Travis – such a love of life and look what happened – beyond sad. Let their be “Justice for Travis,” and let “it ” rot in hell.
    I still don’t get how she got to the laundry room and out of the house without a spot of blood downstairs. You can see the evidence towel looked bloody.Took a shower on top of Travis, had a change of clothes hidden in the house or ??? – any comments. TY for letting me ramble, will continue to follow.

    Welcome Jesse! Although I had my doubts about JM being a little harsh, due to the talking heads mostly, and I apologize for that, donchais has put my mind at ease about him. When I found this site, I have totally given up even hearing the “talking heads” try to poison my mind about him. I only read this site, and watch live stream, due to all these great people on this site helping me find it. This and (donchais) is a wonderful, honest site for JUSTICE! Donchais and all her helpers have done a wonderful job for us…..It’s a shame that TROLLS want to abuse it! But donchais will keep them away from us. I have TOTAL faith in her!! Thanks again donchais for all the work you and others put into this so we can stay informed on what we might miss. And thanks for letting us vent when we need to!!! Hugs from us all :)

  149. Janet
    03/09/2013 at 9:45 am

    Janet :

    Jessi :
    What a wonderful site you’ve put up donchais – 1st time writing. So many of the same questions I’ve had since this trial started are so right on spot. I hope you can keep the trolls from getting in and hacking into your website – fabulous work on your part and I totally agree how time-consuming it must be to try to keep everyone safe.
    Do have a few comments or questions that may be addressed. I also watch NG, JVM with all their comments, but have to admit the defense attorneys on those shows are driving me nuts. How dare they say Juan Martinez is way too aggressive. Hello, this is about an evil thing (JA-can’t call it a human) that literally butchered one of the most admired people among his peers. Would like to see one of them do a cross in such a trial – never happen. Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate the defense attorneys out there that stand up for our rights, also.
    I love Martinez and this site absolutely gives him the utmost respect he deserves. How dare anyone say that he’s dragging this trial out – what about Urmi? His slo-mo nonsense could put anyone to sleep. Martinez gets up there and starts rattling everyone. Go JM!!! He has to go step-by-step and whatever it takes to get that “thing” the needle. Wonder what he’s got cooking up his sleeve for rebuttal. It is going to be good . . . He has to finish the magazine fiasco, the Matt ex-lover-confidante???, and who knows what else. I’m sure we won’t be snoozing when he rips that “thing” to shreds. He will bring back the true Travis, that is so loved by his family, friends, unknowns etc., not the one that the defense portrayed him to be.
    Those letters that were supposed to be introduced into court by “Mom,” were thrown out because of their authenticity. They were copies, according to Mom, the originals were destroyed – yeah, right! Not sure what the family dynamics are all about and don’t think I want to know!?! Kind of sounds like another trial in the past. And, MMD thank-you for the heart-warming video of Travis – such a love of life and look what happened – beyond sad. Let their be “Justice for Travis,” and let “it ” rot in hell.
    I still don’t get how she got to the laundry room and out of the house without a spot of blood downstairs. You can see the evidence towel looked bloody.Took a shower on top of Travis, had a change of clothes hidden in the house or ??? – any comments. TY for letting me ramble, will continue to follow.

    Welcome Jesse! Although I had my doubts about JM being a little harsh, due to the talking heads mostly, and I apologize for that, donchais has put my mind at ease about him. When I found this site, I have totally given up even hearing the “talking heads” try to poison my mind about him. I only read this site, and watch live stream, due to all these great people on this site helping me find it. This and (donchais) is a wonderful, honest site for JUSTICE! Donchais and all her helpers have done a wonderful job for us…..It’s a shame that TROLLS want to abuse it! But donchais will keep them away from us. I have TOTAL faith in her!! Thanks again donchais for all the work you and others put into this so we can stay informed on what we might miss. And thanks for letting us vent when we need to!!! Hugs from us all

    Oops, sorry Jessi, I misspelled your name the first time…

  150. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 10:03 am

    Janet :

    Chrissie A :
    @MMD & @Janet Thanks – It was a long time ago for me also, but it’s something that never leaves you. (in fact I was shaking while writing about it) It just infuriates me when I see her playing the victim of abuse, I’ll probably need some calming tea on the ready when the defense expert witness takes the stand

    Chrissie A- I also have been a victim of abuse of a different kind, so I know where you are coming from. Yes it does indeed never go away and heightens your suspicion when you see others who show true, actual symptoms. It also infuriates me, and others on this site, her “playing a victim”, and making it much harder for others who are true victims to be believed. Not this Jodi though. She is definitely a psychopath who has done her homework on victims of abuse, and is playing it to the hilt! Sure everyone has a different side to themselves. I’m sure she aggravated Travis enough for his temper to show at times due to her manipulative behavior. Hell it would anybody, who normally doesn’t have, or show a temper. She was obviously the ONLY one who knew what buttons to push with him. So in turn, in reality….SHE is the abuser constantly trying to get him very upset! I believe she also did everything in her power to try and MAKE Travis jealous! This “Kitty” person on this site obviously hasn’t had an open mind about the “true” Jodi, just what Jodi wants everyone to believe. I honestly do not understand how anyone who has truly been abused, can be fooled by this SkankyBooBoo. Travis is not here to defend himself so she can run amok with every accusation her sick mind can come up with. I have NEVER seen her shake when JM has questioned her. It’s totally a combative, and smart ass testimony that she gives to try and outsmart someone who is as experienced as they come! Yes, Travis has a different side to him as we ALL do, and no one can be ruled out NOT to admit this! Everyone has skeletons in their closets, but I do not ,and never will believe that Travis, someone I’ve never met, has skeletons like what she is throwing out there! There is nothing in his past that proves ANY of her accusations of pedophellia (sp) tendencies.. Ok, I’ve rambled enough for now, but I just wanted you to know. Thanks for being honest, and congratulations for being a stronger person because of it!

    Janet – I am so sorry that you had to suffer from abuse as well. I agree with you that those who have truly suffered and are lucky to come out the other side, albeit forever scarred, truly does make your awareness of others more heightened. And I agree with you that everyone has a dark side. They seemed to have a relationship based on sex but how many guys do you know that are going to turn down that when it is handed to them on a silver platter, especially when it also comes with a pretty face? Not many. But abuse, that’s a totally different ball of wax. JA is the one that drove 1,000 miles for sex not Travis. She’s the one that did most of the calling. She’s the one who moved to Mesa AFTER they broke up. She’s also the one who climbed through his doggie door. Those are not signs of an abused woman.

    JA totally lost any credibility with me (or what little she had) when she tried to pull the pedophile card. If that had any validity the police would have found something on his computer, phone, bedroom closet, etc. What they did discover was that he had never even gone to a porn website of any sort.

    And now they are trying to say that TA raped JA. Give me a f***ing break!!! I defy any of you, young and in love, who have not awakened to your b/f or husband wanting morning sex. It’s just the way that men are programmed. For men it’s physical and women it’s more emotional. The sexes are different, it’s just a fact of life and does not make it rape. As JA told JM numerous times, sex was always enjoyable and consensual!

  151. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 10:06 am

    Jessi – sorry about that. I was on such a roll that I forgot to welcome you to the site. Feel free to ramble -I just did!:-)

  152. Bethany
    03/09/2013 at 10:25 am

    greykitty: Also, even though Travis was well liked and I do feel for his family, my instincts tell me that there was a dark side to Travis that played a part in setting this very sad killing in motion. If I were in their place I would be very upset and angry but I don’t think it serves any good purpose to sit in court in full view of the jury and glare and eye-roll.

    First of all, I would like to say that I am sorry you had to experience the verbal and physical abuse from your former husband smd that your son had to be a witness to it. That is truly heartbreaking. I also commend you for your work with abuse victims. It takes a strong woman to do that. However, I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. Travis’ family has every right to sit in full view of the jury, as they are the voice for him since he is no longer alive to defend himself. They deserve to seek justice for their brother, grandson, and close friend. Travis did have a dark side, we all do. However, there is no history of past abuse. If Travis did truly abuse Jodi verbally or physically, this abuse would have manifested in previous relationships, which, by previous teatimonies from prior girlfriends, shows it did NOT. Also, have you actually witnessed Jodi’s behavior. She does not display the do called abuse symptoms, she mostly describes these text-book symptoms in her testiphony. She didn’t shake once while Juan crosses her about the jury questions. And she didn’t shrink when he confronted her. She rose to the challenge. She pushed back. Abuse victims don’t act this way. You can’t say that she isn’t displaying typical symptoms if an abuse victim because she may have gotten help, but she did say on the stand that she did not seek treatment for her “memory” problems. Also, she doesn’t think she has a problem with her memory just the memory of the killing. Dissociative amnesia, formerly called psychogenic amnesia, happens in most traumatic events…how was Jodi able to remember Travis strangling her to the point of blacking out but not able to remember any of the events leading up his stabbing? I’m sorry but I don’t believe any of her claims of abuse.

  153. Janet
    03/09/2013 at 10:26 am

    MMD :

    Nancy Pennington :
    To Vickee: I am in your same time zone, still obsessing about this case. I think JA will use whatever she can to prove her ridiculous defense. Hopefully the jury has noticed that her shaking bs is just that. I saw her drink water several times yesterday when JM was hammering her about the third gas can etc and her hand was NOT shaking. Remember she told the jury that she was shaking thru out JM’s questioning and didn’t even drink water because she did not want him to see it. Just another one of her MANY lies. If she wasn’t traumatized by JM yesterday how can she claim she was earlier. She kept trying to get it out in front of the jury that he was yelling at her and scrambling her brain but that was a pitiful excuse for not having a good lie on the tip of her tongue.

    I am so glad that I am not the only person obsessing about this case as you probably noticed by my rant a week or so ago. I haven’t had a good, solid nights sleep since this damn trial started and I’ve rearranged my schedule so I don’t miss a word of testiphony. I even flip on my laptop BEFORE I get out of bed to see what everyone has posted from the time-zones on the west coast. Heaven help anyone who calls during trial times because I either don’t answer or say sorry, I’m in court! LOL Sorry, I’m digressing again.
    My point is that I always heard that drinking a lot of water showed deception. Now she doesn’t seem to drink as much when Wurmi is questioning her because she knows the questions (can it be any more obvious that she is coached).
    On the other hand, when JM is asking questions, she is constantly drinking. She is also NOT shaking. When the third SLC gas receipts came out I thought she was going to kill JM on the spot, with the daggers of hate she was shooting. She completely forgot that she had said that he intimidated her and kept on drinking lots of water. I really hope that the jury is picking up on that.
    ……..still waiting for the shaking to start………….:-)

    MMD , Vickee & Nancy Pennington- I am in the Central Time Zone. I also have become obsessed with this case. At work, I can’t wait till the trial starts. When I come home, I immediately get on line and try and catch the end of the live stream, then spend the rest of the evening on this site commenting and to see what everyone else saw to see if I saw the same,or more. Every morning I check my phone to see the more comments I missed! My poor dog feels so neglected! LOL!!
    I quoted earlier how JA glared at JM when she had been “had” about the gas cans. If looks could kill, my goodness. Her piercing glare bore a hole right through JM. I hope the jury saw that look because it was truly EVIL! I have never in my 52 years seen a glare that damn evil! I never saw her shake, or even tremble, much less clench her jaw from being confronted! Her true colors showed there big time! I myself can’t wait to see what JM has up his sleeve. One thing I do not, and cannot understand, is how Squirmi is. Besides his slow motion, only 2 speed ways, (slow and slower) he is constantly encouraging, supporting her perjury! How can that even be legal?? They both are acting like this is a case of sex, and abuse and pedophile, and not a out and out MURDER!!!! They get totally caught up in that they seem to try and curve the reason for this trial in the first place! A life was taken, and that seems to be on the back burner even if they a trying to claim self defense being the “reason” for his demise!! They are acting like she only attempted to kill him instead! They BOTH are making a mockery out of the court system, and I can’t believe the “no bars allowed with this judge!! There has got to be a line, that must be drawn! I realize the judge is trying to be free of any reason for an appeal, but this is sickening! I hope this Squirmi gets himself disbarred for this case! Oy vey! Ok my peeps, I have got to take a break and eat something! This took my morning energy!! Can’t wait until Wed.!!! Get her JM!!!!!!!!

  154. 03/09/2013 at 10:28 am

    To Nancy Pennington, thx for your response. I, also have not seen her shake, but then again she gets that look of attitude because I do believe she knows she cannot beat JM but is trying to push him to a position where she can try and control the questioning or to cause him to say or do something that may change the course of this trial. How grandiose is her arrogance.

  155. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 10:46 am

    Bethany – You said it better than I could.

  156. 03/09/2013 at 10:47 am

    MMD, I too have crossed the line, I dreamt of Travis last night. Maybe because of the video. I grew up in an abusive family and saw what it did to my mom. For JA to use that excuse for her defense is a travesty to women who have truly lived it. I just remind myself of the definition of “psychopath”. To those of you that have had to live through that thanks for sharing.
    Is it Wednesday yet? ;0)

  157. Rache
    03/09/2013 at 10:52 am

    donchais :
    Can’t say, but will check! Btw, Sam, sis from CA is in LE!

    Thanks, donchais. I think I heard the sister from Ca is a police officer, right? I don’t know where they get their strength…but I admire them for being there for Travis. It has to be very difficult to hear Jodi vilify Travis…..or should I use her word (??) de-edify.

  158. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 10:55 am

    Janet :

    MMD :

    Nancy Pennington :
    To Vickee: I am in your same time zone, still obsessing about this case. I think JA will use whatever she can to prove her ridiculous defense. Hopefully the jury has noticed that her shaking bs is just that. I saw her drink water several times yesterday when JM was hammering her about the third gas can etc and her hand was NOT shaking. Remember she told the jury that she was shaking thru out JM’s questioning and didn’t even drink water because she did not want him to see it. Just another one of her MANY lies. If she wasn’t traumatized by JM yesterday how can she claim she was earlier. She kept trying to get it out in front of the jury that he was yelling at her and scrambling her brain but that was a pitiful excuse for not having a good lie on the tip of her tongue.

    I am so glad that I am not the only person obsessing about this case as you probably noticed by my rant a week or so ago. I haven’t had a good, solid nights sleep since this damn trial started and I’ve rearranged my schedule so I don’t miss a word of testiphony. I even flip on my laptop BEFORE I get out of bed to see what everyone has posted from the time-zones on the west coast. Heaven help anyone who calls during trial times because I either don’t answer or say sorry, I’m in court! LOL Sorry, I’m digressing again.
    My point is that I always heard that drinking a lot of water showed deception. Now she doesn’t seem to drink as much when Wurmi is questioning her because she knows the questions (can it be any more obvious that she is coached).
    On the other hand, when JM is asking questions, she is constantly drinking. She is also NOT shaking. When the third SLC gas receipts came out I thought she was going to kill JM on the spot, with the daggers of hate she was shooting. She completely forgot that she had said that he intimidated her and kept on drinking lots of water. I really hope that the jury is picking up on that.
    ……..still waiting for the shaking to start………….:-)

    MMD , Vickee & Nancy Pennington- I am in the Central Time Zone. I also have become obsessed with this case. At work, I can’t wait till the trial starts. When I come home, I immediately get on line and try and catch the end of the live stream, then spend the rest of the evening on this site commenting and to see what everyone else saw to see if I saw the same,or more. Every morning I check my phone to see the more comments I missed! My poor dog feels so neglected! LOL!!
    I quoted earlier how JA glared at JM when she had been “had” about the gas cans. If looks could kill, my goodness. Her piercing glare bore a hole right through JM. I hope the jury saw that look because it was truly EVIL! I have never in my 52 years seen a glare that damn evil! I never saw her shake, or even tremble, much less clench her jaw from being confronted! Her true colors showed there big time! I myself can’t wait to see what JM has up his sleeve. One thing I do not, and cannot understand, is how Squirmi is. Besides his slow motion, only 2 speed ways, (slow and slower) he is constantly encouraging, supporting her perjury! How can that even be legal?? They both are acting like this is a case of sex, and abuse and pedophile, and not a out and out MURDER!!!! They get totally caught up in that they seem to try and curve the reason for this trial in the first place! A life was taken, and that seems to be on the back burner even if they a trying to claim self defense being the “reason” for his demise!! They are acting like she only attempted to kill him instead! They BOTH are making a mockery out of the court system, and I can’t believe the “no bars allowed with this judge!! There has got to be a line, that must be drawn! I realize the judge is trying to be free of any reason for an appeal, but this is sickening! I hope this Squirmi gets himself disbarred for this case! Oy vey! Ok my peeps, I have got to take a break and eat something! This took my morning energy!! Can’t wait until Wed.!!! Get her JM!!!!!!!!

    Janet – I’m in the Atlantic Time Zone, an hour ahead of donchais, so while I get to pour through some of the comments from after I shut off my computer, I still have to wait for donchais to get up and clear out all the comments from the west coast. (not complaining donchais, you know I love ya, just talking about my a.m. routine :-))

    As for Wurmi, you nailed it and made me roar. He does have 2 speeds, slow and slower! LOL

  159. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 10:58 am

    Just a comment on Juan Martinez. You will notice that the way he speaks is his style.
    He talks the same to everyone on the stand, whether they are on his side or not, not just
    Jodi.

  160. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 11:07 am

    GreyKitty: Jodi did what she wanted to do. She was free to leave anytime. She was not
    trapped at home with children and other monetary obligations. She drove thousands of miles
    to be with him, not run from him.

    From testimony of his other girlfriends, they would NOT carry on with sex-capades
    (as Jodi did) and he was still interested in them, even marriage and taking Mimi on the
    trip. He did not want a the tramp that Jodi appears to be.

    Plain and clear jealousy. Tossing in the little boy stuff is plan ludicrous and overkill
    so that one believes nothing she previously said regarding his forcing sex on her.

    I think he knew she was a lying sociopath as well.

  161. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 11:07 am

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    The irony here is that Wurmi is on the other side of the fence now. He and JA are doing the accusing of sex crimes and not just one. They’re pushing pedophilia and rape.

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  162. 03/09/2013 at 11:15 am

    Have we bought into the Perpetual Liar’s statement that she dropped the camera? Is it
    possible he knocked it out of her hands? Also, unasked, she offered the statement that
    she wanted extra gas because she’d never driven that route, especially at night; did she
    have a rehearsal of this event?

  163. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 11:23 am

    MMD: I don’t think Wurmi is going to get points for his show on this trial.
    Who would want to pay for an attorney that talks so slow, your hourly rate will
    be $1,000 if you take speed into consideration!! 👎

  164. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 11:25 am

    Another thing: I don’t understand if she was so nervous about all this driving, that she
    needed to drive all night long when there would be the highest chances for something
    to go wrong. All the miles and miles she drove boggles my mind anyway!

    Thanks for listening!!

  165. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 11:35 am

    Donchais – I know you are not getting much time off but look at the awesome public service you are providing. You are keeping all of us off the streets and out of trouble.:-)

    Thanks so much!! You are so appreciated!!

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 11:53 am

      MMD LMAO

      • janet
        03/09/2013 at 12:01 pm

        & MMD – Lmao too, but it’s so true!!!

  166. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 11:51 am

    Just because a woman says she has been abused doesn’t mean it’s true.

    The abuse excuse is very commonly used by scorned women in murder trials and custody battles and on blogs by Jodi supporters.

    There is no evidence that Travis Alexander was an abuser or had a dark side.

    Everybody who knew Travis describes him as a happy, positive, gentle man who loved life and saw the best in everyone and tried to help people. Travis was a successful businessman, motivational speaker and outdoorsman who enjoyed making people laugh and inspiring them to improve themselves

    His friends said when Travis was frustrated with Jodi stalking him, slashing his tires and getting into his bank account, emails, phone, Facebook accounts and barging into his house all the time, he expressed his feelings to them and threw his phone.

    Even by emails Jodi read in court, he expressed his frustrations in text messages by telling her he was sick of her bullcrap and lies and she was wearing him down and she was an evil sociopath.

    Lisa said the only time she saw Travis angry was after Jodi slashed his tires twice and then he threw his cell phone. When Lisa broke up with him, he didn’t get angry. His friends said he was upset over the breakup. Abusers try to kill a woman when she leaves him. He didn’t try to kill Jodi when she moved back to California or when she stalked him or ruined the motor of his Mercedes which would have cost thousands of dollars. It makes no sense that he would try to kill her because she dropped his camera, which didn’t damage it because it kept taking pictures as he was stabbed to death.

    Travis was 5 foot 9 and weighed 185 lbs. was a wrestler and a kickboxer. Jodi is 5 foot 6 and 115 lbs. If he kicked Jodi in the ribs, he would have broken her ribs and not her finger. If he body slammed her on a tile floor she would have been seriously hurt and couldn’t have rolled away and ran. If he wanted her dead, she would have been dead and not him.

    It’s obvious by the forensics and other evidence and the time stamp on the camera that she planned this murder for many days and ambushed him in the shower with the knife and stabbed him until he was dead.

    This was a planned execution by a scorned woman who wanted to stop him from going to Cancun with another woman.

    She had already set her sights on another Mormon and rising star in Pre-paid Legal, Ryan Byrnes. She murdered Travis and moved on to Ryan without a second thought..

  167. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 11:55 am

    carol :
    Have we bought into the Perpetual Liar’s statement that she dropped the camera? Is it
    possible he knocked it out of her hands? Also, unasked, she offered the statement that
    she wanted extra gas because she’d never driven that route, especially at night; did she
    have a rehearsal of this event?

    She dropped the camera when she was stabbing him in the chest and belly and he was trying to grab the knife and got cuts all over both hands.

  168. 03/09/2013 at 12:01 pm

    MMD, you are a class act!!!!!!! Love your last blog. Cannot stop laughing…… That will get me through the day.
    Also, the thought just occurred to me, she took the gun with her, that she remembers, but the knife??? Mentioned the dishwasher, but then did not remember that item. It was stated that none of the knives in the house matched the stab wounds, so……….???? Apologies if I miss a statement on this.

  169. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 12:11 pm

    Marilyn N :
    MMD: I don’t think Wurmi is going to get points for his show on this trial.
    Who would want to pay for an attorney that talks so slow, your hourly rate will
    be $1,000 if you take speed into consideration!! 👎

    You’ve got that right Marilyn. I think he is just trying to bore the jurors to death so that they will do anything just to shut him up. I know he is driving me nuts!!!

    I feel so badly for those jurors. They have been at this since January 2nd, are getting paid a pittance, are away from their jobs, unable to talk to family, friends or co-workers about the case, have to avoid newspapers, tv, etc AND have to look AND listen to Wurmi and JA close up (which is probably the hardest). Plus, these are local folks who have lived this murder/case since June 2008. Yet in spite of all that, they are trying to do a good job, which is obvious by their questions.

    Thoughts anybody, on the jury?

  170. janet
    03/09/2013 at 12:11 pm

    I have one other thing to comment on. Correct me if I’m wrong, but everyone says Jodi is 5’6 115 lbs. She may be now, but in her arrest picture of her drivers license, doesn’t it say 125 lbs.? She was more heavier & more fit than she is now! Add 10 lbs. to her, & yes, she had strength enough to overpower Travis in a vulnerable position. So for one, she was NOT frail by no means at the time of this cold blooded murder!!!!

  171. 03/09/2013 at 12:11 pm

    Donchais, my husband wanted me to thank you for this site so that he does not have to hear me ramble on & on. He thinks I am a woman possessed (he is not far off). He watches periodically but called her number from the get go.

    So thank you!!

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 12:17 pm

      My pleasure, lol.

  172. Nancy Pennington
    03/09/2013 at 12:21 pm

    I noticed Grey Cat seemed upset by Travis’ family staring at JA as she spews her lies about him but seems to have missed the shots of JA’s mother and aunt as they sit and talk behind their hands, smile, smirk and giggle like schoolgirls. Maybe something they picked up from JA. Or, maybe they don’t realize this is a trial for a brutal murder.

  173. NancyB
    03/09/2013 at 12:29 pm

    I am hoping that Juan had Salinas detective visit the nail place that she said was in the same strip mall as the Walmart where she bought the gas can. Maybe they can ID her and confirm that she had her hair done there that same day. In her testiphony she stated that she’s “not sure they do hair there”. I’d love for Juan to uncover another lie that she’s told this jury. i also wish that her extremely poorly written bribery plea deal demand could be brought forward for the jury to see, but I’m sure that it would be judged too prejudicial.

  174. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 12:32 pm

    janet :
    I have one other thing to comment on. Correct me if I’m wrong, but everyone says Jodi is 5’6 115 lbs. She may be now, but in her arrest picture of her drivers license, doesn’t it say 125 lbs.? She was more heavier & more fit than she is now! Add 10 lbs. to her, & yes, she had strength enough to overpower Travis in a vulnerable position. So for one, she was NOT frail by no means at the time of this cold blooded murder!!!!

    As Chrissie said, I think that JA “ambushed” (her word) TA and I think that at either weight and with her fury and planning, it wouldn’t be hard to do. After all, she would already be having an adrenaline rush. That’s just my opinion though.

  175. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 12:48 pm

    MMD: SO in a positive light, for the jury, it is a pretty darn interesting story.
    Just too bad the court doesn’t keep longer daily hours. Most judges insist on moving
    things along faster. This is the s l o w e s t trial I’ve ever watched, and I am an avid
    trial watcher!!

  176. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 12:56 pm

    janet :
    I have one other thing to comment on. Correct me if I’m wrong, but everyone says Jodi is 5’6 115 lbs. She may be now, but in her arrest picture of her drivers license, doesn’t it say 125 lbs.? She was more heavier & more fit than she is now! Add 10 lbs. to her, & yes, she had strength enough to overpower Travis in a vulnerable position. So for one, she was NOT frail by no means at the time of this cold blooded murder!!!!

    I didn’t see her driver’s license. You are right. She looks 10 lbs. heavier in her pictures than she does in court. From now on I will use 125 lbs. I am 5 foot 6 and 125 lbs. and I am a kickboxer and I lift weights. I tried to over power my 5 foot 10 185 lb. husband who is older and isn’t in as good shape as Travis. Yet, I could not over power him. He kept disarming me until I sat him down and had him look into the camera lens as I took a picture, then with my left hand I pretended to stab him in the belly. He didn’t see it coming because he was looking into the lens.The only way Jodi could overpower Travis was to corner him, ambush him and keep stabbing him until he collapsed, lost consciousness and bled out. The only wounds on her body were from stabbing him. He never laid a finger on her.

  177. NancyB
    03/09/2013 at 12:57 pm

    Juror question: “Why were you afraid of the consequences if you killed Travis in self-defense?”
    I think Jodi’s atty coached her to answer very precisely on that one. I think the answer was a message to the jury to not take her life.
    “I believed it was not OK … to take someone’s life even if you were defending yourself,” Arias replied softly.

  178. janetlynn
    03/09/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Donchais, I’ve looked everywhere. Where can we donate to your trial coverage?

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 1:11 pm

      Awww, that’s sweet. I do this out of a passion for justice, but thanks!

  179. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 1:10 pm

    I just had a thought – I know scary eh! Ya know how Jodi said she threw the gun out in the desert, although personally I think she probably buried it, I was wondering whether or not they ever found any bullets for the stolen .25 at her grandparents house.

    I readily admit I know squat about guns but I do know you are able to match bullets to a gun. Well, the police have not only the bullet that was found in TA’s cheek but the casing as well. If they did find bullets in Yreka they might not be able to match the bullet to the gun but to the same batch of bullets or even manufacturer.

    Can you just buy bullets anywhere or do you need to show id? Plus isn’t a .25 a fairly uncommon gun? As I said I know squat. I wouldn’t even know where to buy a gun or bullets here.

  180. donchais
    03/09/2013 at 1:21 pm

    For those of you with time on your hands, this is kinda fun!

    MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes:

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

  181. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Marilyn N :
    MMD: SO in a positive light, for the jury, it is a pretty darn interesting story.
    Just too bad the court doesn’t keep longer daily hours. Most judges insist on moving
    things along faster. This is the s l o w e s t trial I’ve ever watched, and I am an avid
    trial watcher!!

    I know Marilyn, the AZ court system, it’s hours, the amount of sidebars, etc. was all part of the long rant that I had a couple of weeks ago.

    I just remember Judge Perry moving things along and telling attorneys that he deposed people on the weekend and sometimes worked all night if new evidence came in when he was practicing. I think that Judge Stephens is doing the best she can within the framework she has. According to donchais she has a very full schedule.

    Thankfully the jurors aren’t sequestered because I don’t think that 6 alternates would be enough. Jurors would be dropping like flies.

    I’ve cleared everything for March and hopefully I won’t have to do it for April.

  182. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 1:29 pm

    donchais :
    For those of you with time on your hands, this is kinda fun!
    MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes:
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

    Trying to tell us something donchais?????????????????????

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 1:58 pm

      MMD Bwahahahah

    • janet
      03/09/2013 at 3:32 pm

      @ MMD- Heck yeah she is….from the beginning this case has been HELL!!!! But what blows me away is that Jodi didn’t want Travis on record as a VICTIM!!!!!!!! I just fainted!!!! Lol! Wow!!!!

  183. Nancy Pennington
    03/09/2013 at 1:39 pm

    OMG. Sounds like JA was trying to control things from day one. She was so not an abused woman. Also sounds like no one wanted to be involved with her case. Not sure if Wurmi wanted out so badly because of the money issue or if even he did not believe her load of crap. Just saying.

  184. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 1:45 pm

    MMD: Ooooooohhhhhh! Good thinking about the bullet! I hope JM is planning to pop
    fact out down the line!!! She is soooo toast!

  185. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 1:47 pm

    MMD :
    <I readily admit I know squat about guns but I do know you are able to match bullets to a gun. Well, the police have not only the bullet that was found in TA’s cheek but the casing as well. If they did find bullets in Yreka they might not be able to match the bullet to the gun but to the same batch of bullets or even manufacturer.

    If Jodi did not get rid of the ammunition for the .25 caliber gun before or after the murder, as soon as they learned about the burglary at her grandparent’s house, I’m sure Yreka police would serve a warrant for the ammunition and Mesa investigators would try to match the bullet and casing with the ammunition in Jodi’s grandparent’s home. I think if they found any ammunition for the grandparent’s stolen .25 caliber gun Jodi would have said she stole the gun to protect herself on the long road trip and took it in to show Travis the gun and it went off. However, she is dumb so maybe she didn’t think they could prove it without the gun.

    If the investigators have proof the bullet came from that gun, they may have withheld it until the rebuttal case to see how she explained the gun and knife. Now she has denied shooting Travis with her grandfather’s gun, Martinez could call an expert to the stand to testify that the bullet did come from her grandfather’s gun and that the knife used in the stabbing was not a knife from Travis’ butcher block. Maybe that’s the Perry Mason moment trial watchers are expecting.

  186. Dramsop
    03/09/2013 at 1:54 pm

    greykitty :
    Hey back to you, Trial Watcher….Yes I do believe her about Travis’s abuse.

    Hi Grey Kitty, first of all, I am so sorry you had to go through such a horrible experience of abuse. And you sound like a compassionate person- which is how IMHO Jody is hooking you into her lies. I actually agree with you 100% that Arias has likely sufferred real abuse in her life, but not at Travis’ hands and not in the way she’s trying to sell us. She is cunning and resourceful when she wants to be- and she has prepared her Travis story by researching real abused women’s experiences and used it in her act.

    You can identify with the pain she is describing, but she is only describing what she thinks real experiences would be. From what you shared, I think she was in a completely different situation than you. She and Travis were in a short lived “exclusive” relationship for only a few months after which she continued to pursue (stalk) him for a year. She made herself available for sex to try to keep him interested in her and to get him to marry her. She did not have children with him, she did not live with him, she was not financially dependent or interdependent on him- her life was only as intertwined with his as she wanted it to be. She was obsessed with him. When he proved to be smarter and stronger and much more resistant to her manipulations than she expected, she realized she couldn’t have him- so she decided no-one would. You also did not viciously kill your abuser slashing him 29 times with a knife, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head. She did all that when she could simply have STAYED a thousand miles away, changed her phone number and email address and be done with him for good.

    I’m sure Travis was no choir boy, but Arias has not substantiated one single claim of ANY of the abuse she lied about. A person who is as abusive in relationships as she alleges Travis was would have been noticed by someone else too- at some point. I actually think a more accurate picture of what really happened would be to take everything Arias claims Travis did and realize it was the other way around. Again, IMHO- emotionally abusive people often turn it all around and accuse the victim of doing what the abuser is actually doing to them.

    Believe it or not, I also agree with being fair minded, but so far NOTHING suggests to me that Arias was anything but controlling, enraged and spiteful. She is in NO WAY afraid of Juan Martinez. She wants to take him on because she thinks she can win.

    • janet
      03/09/2013 at 3:41 pm

      @dramsop- couldn’t have said it any better!!!!!!!!

  187. Cats
    03/09/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Very interesting, thank you for posting!

    donchais :
    For those of you with time on your hands, this is kinda fun!
    MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes:
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

  188. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 2:18 pm

    donchais :
    MMD Bwahahahah

    That was actually really interesting. Nothing like having a loony (no offence to the bird) armchair attorney as your client. Any idea how many murder cases or just sex cases Wurmi has done in private practice?

    I found her twitter account and see she was tweeting the CA case and is tweeting this case as well. Thanks:-)

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 2:30 pm

      No idea, but from the timeline, his practice came into being in 2011…not a whole lot of time, lol!

  189. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 2:33 pm

    OK I see on her twitter a screen shot of the bank statement and she bought an airline ticket to Cancun two items away from the SLC bank statements. I can’t tell the date or find her post on WAT. I wonder what the hell she was going to do with that????????????

  190. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 2:35 pm

    correction – two items away from the SLC gas purchases.

  191. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 2:41 pm

    Plus JA bought sunscreen on June 3rd!?!?!?!

  192. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 2:41 pm

    MMD: Whose twitter account are you referring to in post #221?
    Thanks!

  193. Cats
    03/09/2013 at 2:44 pm

    @donchais can I ask you what do you think the significance of when Jodi cut her finger and if she reported it is? Is Juan just trying to catch her in another lie?

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 3:02 pm

      Cats ayuh…she told a different story to Ryan Burns and the Udy’s.

  194. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 2:57 pm

    Crap, I need a 10 year old to explain this twitter stuff to me. Chris Stark is talking about Real Housewives of NJ to JA’s crotch being deformed to house in foreclosure. I’m totally confused!

    it’s a bitch to be old!

    • janet
      03/09/2013 at 3:48 pm

      @MMD- Roflmao!!! You r priceless!!!

  195. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 3:19 pm

    Cats: My thought about the cut finger is that she never cut it as work, she cut it
    at the killing, and JM will get a statement from her Casa Ramos manager (of which there were
    13 restaurant locations and not 3 or 4 like she said) that the injury never occurred at the work site.

    She was going on and on like such a smart person (that we know she’s not) that it was
    such a tiny little “private” business and they would never have forms filled out for workplace
    injuries. What a joke she is!! There was no injury so nothing filled out!

  196. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 3:20 pm

    donchais :
    For those of you with time on your hands, this is kinda fun!
    MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes:
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

    Thanks for this link. I knew about Jodi representing herself but I didn’t know she only represented herself from 8/8/11 to 8/15/11 when the forged pedophile letters were not admitted into evidence. I think Nurmi refused to introduce the pedophile letters because he knew they were forgeries and he knows Travis doesn’t fit the profile of a pedophile. That’s why she represented herself. When the letters were not admitted, she asked for her attorneys back.

    The pedophile issue might have also been why Nurmi tried to withdraw on 3/9/11 and the judge refused to grant his request because he had been on the case for two years and she felt it was too late to break in a new attorney. He used the money issue to try to get away from Jodi 4/4/11 when he left the public defenders office but the judge refused to let him go but agreed to pay him $225 an hour so he wouldn’t lose money. I didn’t think public defenders got paid that much. I see Jennifer Wilmott is still a public defender so she is probably paid a pittance.

    The client is the boss so despite no evidence to back her up, she insisted on the sexual deviant, battered woman’s accidental shooting self defense story that makes no sense at all.

    I find it interesting that Jodi started being difficult right away and requested new attorneys on 5/22/09. The judge ignored her until public defenders Maria L Schaffer and Gregory T. Parzych got sick of her bullcrap as Travis would say and filed a motion to withdraw from her case. The judge must have seen they couldn’t deal with her so she granted their request 8/10/09 and dumped her on Nurmi. He’s stuck with her.

  197. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 3:34 pm

    Marilyn N :
    MMD: Whose twitter account are you referring to in post #221?
    Thanks!

    https://twitter.com/stark3923 This is the person who posted the #JodiArias MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE that you just read.

    My computer just went wonky. Must be because I said I needed a 10 year old for help :-(

  198. JesusFreak
    03/09/2013 at 3:41 pm

    Found a place to watch any of the previous days Trial of Jodi. Go to:

    http://crimeandcourtsnews.blogspot.com/2013/03/nancy-grace-transcripts-march-8-2013.html#.UTuQWzdPGww

    I am watching JM grill JA after the questtions. It is great.

  199. janetlynn
    03/09/2013 at 3:53 pm

    LMAO MMD. I don’t get Twitter at all either and I too do not have a FB page anymore as I truly don’t care what everyone ate for breakfast. Love your posts.

    Anyway, donchais, anyone??? I watched the last day of juror questions after work (ok, and a beer…maybe). Very tired and running around getting dinner etc. Re-watching now. A juror just asked what happened to the BOX the gun was in. What BOX? I thought she said it was just lying there. I know she changed to a holster the other day but a box? Has that been mentioned or was it a “trick” question?

  200. janetlynn
    03/09/2013 at 4:08 pm

    MMD, story you might appreciate:

    We recently had a horrendous murder trial where I live. I’ve mentioned before, although not important, I’m a criminal courtroom clerk. Anyway, jury went out on Wednesday. There was A LOT of fear that the verdict would not be favorable due to evidence not being allowed etc.

    We had a very interested party outside the court house and asked my court officer to advise me immediately when and if a verdict came in. Although, I was not on the Trial, the PH was held before the Judge I was with and I was the clerk.

    So, picture this, I am in the same building, two floors down, I sat on the PH, I knew everything there was to know about this matter. Verdict comes in, my officer tells me (clarification, we are not allowed to be on computers and no outside phone lines in our courthouse) guilty (a million YAYYYYYs). I immediately start calling courtroom to courtroom to advise my co-workers and the last two said “yeah I know, I got it on Twitter”. It was maybe 3 mins since the verdict. MAYBE.

    Moral of my story, we may just be missin out on a whole bunch of stuff lol.

  201. Anonymous
    03/09/2013 at 4:10 pm

    janetlynn :
    donchais, thanks again as usual. sorry you’re going through this crap with the TROLLS. if I wanted to waste all of our time, I’d suggest we flood the JA is innocent site but I’m supposed to be far too mature for such things at this point (sigh).
    Anyway, I have to say I caught the “no fear, I mean…” right away, threw my hands out in a “YES” moment and hit DH in the chest, by accident of course. He said that he is watching in another room from now on ha ha.
    Chrissie A, thanks so much for sharing. I too was in an abusive relationship. Although I have experienced the physical side, the emotional and verbal abuse I endured (as I’m sure you have as well), seems to, sadly, have somewhat of a lasting effect on me.
    I shook for years and still do (to the point of dropping tea cups, plates etc.) if being yelled at or I’m aware someone is angry with me. I always have a slight tremor to my hands that infuriates me. I’ve also ground my back teeth down to almost nothing. So, when JA went on about her shaking and jaw clenching, I thought “you have no effing idea you stupid A** B****. Sorry, about the language.
    I was disgusted, angry and insulted….contemporaneously.

    Contemporaneously lol!!!

    Sorry to hear that you went through that too – I’ve spoken of it before, but this is the first time
    I have ever put it in writing, so I guess that’s a milestone :-) I did some research on the Domestic Abuse expert for the defense, she has a book on Amazon that published in 2000 that only has 4 reviews, but lo and behold she has a brand new edition available in April for pre-order just in time for the trial:

    Ist Edition:

    New Edition:

    I wonder if the prosecution would be able to use this as gaining monetary benefit off of the trial?

  202. Anonymous
    03/09/2013 at 4:11 pm

    Chrissie A again looks like I’m still anon must be my end

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 4:49 pm

      Chrissie A still workin it, sorry!

  203. janetlynn
    03/09/2013 at 4:14 pm

    Sorry, No computers or outside lines in Court ROOMS. Not the building.

    Donchais, don’t hate me for making you work, so sorry.

  204. Bethany
    03/09/2013 at 4:26 pm

    MMD: OK I see on her twitter a screen shot of the statement and she bought an airline ticket to Cancun two items away from the SLC bank statements. I can’t tell the date or find her post on WAT. I wonder what the hell she was going to do with that????????????

    I’m not very computer literate so I was wondering if you had a link to view her bank statement? That sounds interesting

  205. katz63md
    03/09/2013 at 4:41 pm

    I was reading the police reports yesterday and came across something, don’t remember exactly where, but it was stated that JA called Ryan 2 weeks before the murder and made plans to come out around the 4th/5th. That gave her PLENTY of time to come up with this little scheme of hers.

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 4:50 pm

      ayuh, actually was probably more like a month or so…gun stolen from grandpa!

  206. 03/09/2013 at 4:47 pm

    Thanks for the welcome – you guys are awesome!

    To think she was only with Travis “officially as a girlfriend (YUK), for five months, what was her agenda for the next victim? And, why when she was busted, did she have a gun and a knife in possession? Do you believe it was for her supposed camping trip with a bunch of guys? Notice, I said guys – most of the females around her knew she was a seducing piece of work and wouldn’t allow her around their partners, especially ALONE. Not buying that lie either about camping.

    If she uses the word de-edify, I’m going to scream. Beth Karas/HLN was a bit annoyed about that also. The correct usage according to Karas is disedify (sp.). Looks like the long awaited trial, gave the scum-bag many months of getting literate – a little too much. According to some of the commentators she is quite smart – don’t want to go there . . . not my opinion. Most experts say they’ve never seen such a well-rehearsed witness in all their years of experience, some 27 plus years under their belt. Watched her on one of the websites, flipping through the jury’s question, with her mouth moving a mile a minute. But, Martinez will get her good! Can’t wait.

    Anyone that believes she was abused by Travis is creating such an injustice to the women who have truly suffered “Battered Women’s Syndrome.” Am stating this from some real knowledge – will leave it at that. TY.

    The hatred she has for JM is so obvious. She puts on that smirk when Nurmi objects with those dead eyes at JM. No fear in that evil body, whatsoever. If that were my kid (God forbid), you wouldn’t see me in that courtroom supporting her. Dad and brother probably may feel the same way, along with Angela (sis). Who knows, next week they may all be there again. Guess everyone has their own feelings about their families. Just me venting. Could go on and on.

    P.S. Stress getting to Arias??? – what a doozy of a cold sore!?!? Let’s see the doggie shake performance next week, just like the supposed migraine when JM started at her when he began cross. What a joke – the system has to protect her. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re short days – hope not. Let’s move this along.

  207. Janet
    03/09/2013 at 4:56 pm

    MMD :

    Chrissie A :
    Just saw this link, it’s the last picture of Travis that has been put into face mirror software which splits the image of a face in half, and then mirrors it back – both the left and right sides are shown here::
    http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/travis-alexanders-last-photograph.html

    Wow that is truly spooky!!! The person who runs the blog (Eyes for Lies aka Renee) said that it seems like a “fight or flight” look and I agree.
    I don’t know about anyone else here but that photo, untouched, has always haunted me. It seems like when I’m trying to go to sleep that photo pops into my brain. It has always bothered me and I didn’t know why. I thought maybe because it was simply because it was the last photo that was taken of him alive or maybe because it seems like Travis was looking into my very soul.
    Now that I see what Chrissie A posted and went to the site, I truly think that was what Travis was feeling. It just feels right (to me anyway). For all we know he could have sensed that JA was up to no good by her weird actions or a look in her eyes or she could have been holding the knife or the gun on him. It’s something that we’ll never know.
    The only person who knows definitively is JA and hopefully Travis never got to process it fully in his mind.

    I agree! Spooky. They did an awesome job with that. I hope you are right too that hopefully Travis didn’t process it fully! But then again, this is one hell of a psycho who probably would love to see him suffer!!!! That’s a shame!

  208. janetlynn
    03/09/2013 at 5:03 pm

    Chrissie A: I knew it was you, you have an alias now. I don’t think it works if we all know however lol.

    Thank you for not thinking I was being dis-respectful using contemporaneously. I was a bit afraid it would come off that way.

    I did and do use sarcasm, humour etc to deal with a lot of my past. Thanks for getting it!

    I truly do hate that word now. Who hates a word???????

  209. JesusFreak
    03/09/2013 at 5:17 pm

    I went to the Eyes for Lies site. I believe that TA knew something. I did notice, however, the Photo Shop. Shoulders are so different in both pictures and in the left picture his face has been widened. Seems deceptive to me. We have a lot of truth to hang her and do not need deception.

    I am old and will not mind if you show me the error of my ways. Ha.

  210. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 5:19 pm

    janetlynn :
    MMD, story you might appreciate:
    We recently had a horrendous murder trial where I live. I’ve mentioned before, although not important, I’m a criminal courtroom clerk. Anyway, jury went out on Wednesday. There was A LOT of fear that the verdict would not be favorable due to evidence not being allowed etc.
    We had a very interested party outside the court house and asked my court officer to advise me immediately when and if a verdict came in. Although, I was not on the Trial, the PH was held before the Judge I was with and I was the clerk.
    So, picture this, I am in the same building, two floors down, I sat on the PH, I knew everything there was to know about this matter. Verdict comes in, my officer tells me (clarification, we are not allowed to be on computers and no outside phone lines in our courthouse) guilty (a million YAYYYYYs). I immediately start calling courtroom to courtroom to advise my co-workers and the last two said “yeah I know, I got it on Twitter”. It was maybe 3 mins since the verdict. MAYBE.
    Moral of my story, we may just be missin out on a whole bunch of stuff lol.

    Too funny!!!!!!! Aren’t you in Ottawa or somewhere? I know that there is another Canuck on here who is a court reporter.

    If I got on twitter, then I’d have to get a smart phone. I still use a flip phone and only use it to phone itf I break down in the car or I’m late somewhere. Basically it is my address book. I know that I have to get a new phone but I’m procrastinating because I know I need to write all of the information down on paper because it doesn’t have a sim (sic) card!!! I’m still in the dark ages! That’s my story and I’m stickin’ with it!!!

    Besides, it’s bad enough that I’m so hooked on this damn case and spending so much time on my laptop. I’ve rearranged my schedule around it…. did the same with CA……heck I did the same thing with OJ. Truly the last thing I need is another addiction like this. As it is, I look at kids who are young teens, and while they’re hanging out (not the JA’s definition) with each other, they are still texting other people! They’ve completely forgotten how to have a conversation with another person let alone put a sentence together with correct spelling.

    janetlynn – I bet you’re sorry that you ever brought this up with me! LOL sorry about the rant but it just drives me nuts when I’m trying to talk to somebody and they’re either texting or
    checking their phone cause somebody updated their status on FB or decided to brush their teeth.

    Listen to me……….. I can’t stop. Twitter and FB just drive me nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now the most ironic part of this poor, sad, pathetic story is that once I get my smartphone I’ll be the same damn way!!! while then I’ll become a hypocrite, I’ll at least be driving other people nuts………………….

    • janet
      03/09/2013 at 9:14 pm

      @MMD, janetlynn- lol! I recently HAD to change phones from a flip phone. Mine broke, & trust me, you will become a hypocrite!! Although I don’t do Twitter, or my space, I do have facebook. But don’t care for it too much! My favorite part of the smartphone is texting my family & sending them photos! And of course checking my email for this site!! Believe it or not my older sister got one before I did!!! Lol!!

  211. Anonymous
    03/09/2013 at 5:22 pm

    janetlynn :
    Chrissie A: I knew it was you, you have an alias now. I don’t think it works if we all know however lol.
    Thank you for not thinking I was being dis-respectful using contemporaneously. I was a bit afraid it would come off that way.
    I did and do use sarcasm, humour etc to deal with a lot of my past. Thanks for getting it!
    I truly do hate that word now. Who hates a word???????

    janetlynn :
    Chrissie A: I knew it was you, you have an alias now. I don’t think it works if we all know however lol.
    Thank you for not thinking I was being dis-respectful using contemporaneously. I was a bit afraid it would come off that way.
    I did and do use sarcasm, humour etc to deal with a lot of my past. Thanks for getting it!
    I truly do hate that word now. Who hates a word???????

    ChrissIe Alias here
    I too use sarcasm and humor a lot – you didn’t de-edify me lol

  212. JesusFreak
    03/09/2013 at 5:23 pm

    donchais :
    For those of you with time on your hands, this is kinda fun!
    MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes:
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

    Just read the Biology of the Defense Case. Thanks for the heads up. What a hoot! What a waste of Arizona Dollars!

  213. Anonymous
    03/09/2013 at 5:26 pm

    donchais :
    Chrissie A still workin it, sorry!

    S’okay I’ve been checking my settings, I’ll keep on it :-)

  214. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 5:27 pm

    janet :
    @ MMD- Heck yeah she is….from the beginning this case has been HELL!!!! But what blows me away is that Jodi didn’t want Travis on record as a VICTIM!!!!!!!! I just fainted!!!! Lol! Wow!!!!

    I know. She truly is a loon (once again no offence to the bird)!!! I hope that if they get the DP in the case and when it is eventually carried out, they preserve her brain for further study! Can’t figure out her thought process what so ever!!!! How she hooked so many men is totally beyond me.

    I can’t wait to see how the hired experts twist her story so that she is the victim – betcha the jury will have really good questions then!!

    • janet
      03/09/2013 at 9:19 pm

      Right on all accounts MMD

  215. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 5:35 pm

    Bethany :
    MMD: OK I see on her twitter a screen shot of the statement and she bought an airline ticket to Cancun two items away from the SLC bank statements. I can’t tell the date or find her post on WAT. I wonder what the hell she was going to do with that????????????
    I’m not very computer literate so I was wondering if you had a link to view her bank statement? That sounds interesting

    That’s as far as I got as well! That’s why I need the 10 year old. I thought she posted on
    wildabouttrial.com but I couldn’t find it. I need a 10 year old for that site too.lol

  216. NancyB
    03/09/2013 at 5:39 pm

    I was looking on line to see if there was any place already set up to assist Travis’ family and I found the following information on the Facebook page of The State vs Jodi Arias -The Travis Alexander Murder Trial. I’ll defer to Donchais’ judgement on whether she decides to post or not. Here it is:

    We’ve had numerous requests from people wishing to assist Travis’ family with travel and living expenses during the trial.

    Please make donations to the following PayPal email: justice4travisalexander@gmail.com

    To send cards or cheques, please use this postal address:

    Tanisha Sorenson
    ALS
    700 E. Redlands Blvd. STE U 304
    Redlands, CA. 92373

    [We advise that the admins of this site do not manage this acct. It is handled exclusively by Travis' family.]

  217. NancyB
    03/09/2013 at 5:45 pm

    This Timeline is from HLN. Note info about .25 caliber bullets:

    TIMELINE

    July 14, 2008

    9:45PM
    Arias was inside a vehicle, parked in front of the residence talking with someone who appeared to be her mother. Arias’ mother later drove away, Arias then went back into her grandparents’ home.

    MIDNIGHT
    Officers left the home to return in the early morning hours. Decision made to arrest her if she attempted to flee.

    July 15, 2008

    6:30AM
    Surveillance team set up at grandparents’ home. Shortly after, a Chevy Cobalt parked in front of the home.

    9:39AM
    Arias taken into custody.

    9:40AM
    Search warrant of grandparents’ home executed. Evidence indicated that Arias had purchased a High Point 9mm.

    1:15PM
    Search warrant executed at the home of Arias’ parents. Box of .25 calibre ammunition was found during search. .25 calibre ammo was not found at grandparents’ home.
    2:25PM
    Search warrant on the Chevy Cobalt executed. Arias’ luggage and personal effects had been placed inside the vehicle. A box of 9mm ammunition was found inside a suitcase containing Arias’ clothing. No firearm was found. Two knives found inside boxes of books in the car.

    August 2008

    Arias’ mother asked about a High Point 9mm that Arias had hidden in a vehicle.

    A Hertz employee recovers a 9mm gun while servicing the vehicle in San Francisco, California. It was the vehicle Arias had rented in Yreka, California. Police determined the weapon was purchased after Travis Alexander was killed.

  218. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 5:48 pm

    Jessi :
    Thanks for the welcome – you guys are awesome!
    To think she was only with Travis “officially as a girlfriend (YUK), for five months, what was her agenda for the next victim? And, why when she was busted, did she have a gun and a knife in possession? Do you believe it was for her supposed camping trip with a bunch of guys? Notice, I said guys – most of the females around her knew she was a seducing piece of work and wouldn’t allow her around their partners, especially ALONE. Not buying that lie either about camping.
    If she uses the word de-edify, I’m going to scream. Beth Karas/HLN was a bit annoyed about that also. The correct usage according to Karas is disedify (sp.). Looks like the long awaited trial, gave the scum-bag many months of getting literate – a little too much. According to some of the commentators she is quite smart – don’t want to go there . . . not my opinion. Most experts say they’ve never seen such a well-rehearsed witness in all their years of experience, some 27 plus years under their belt. Watched her on one of the websites, flipping through the jury’s question, with her mouth moving a mile a minute. But, Martinez will get her good! Can’t wait.
    Anyone that believes she was abused by Travis is creating such an injustice to the women who have truly suffered “Battered Women’s Syndrome.” Am stating this from some real knowledge – will leave it at that. TY.
    The hatred she has for JM is so obvious. She puts on that smirk when Nurmi objects with those dead eyes at JM. No fear in that evil body, whatsoever. If that were my kid (God forbid), you wouldn’t see me in that courtroom supporting her. Dad and brother probably may feel the same way, along with Angela (sis). Who knows, next week they may all be there again. Guess everyone has their own feelings about their families. Just me venting. Could go on and on.
    P.S. Stress getting to Arias??? – what a doozy of a cold sore!?!? Let’s see the doggie shake performance next week, just like the supposed migraine when JM started at her when he began cross. What a joke – the system has to protect her. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re short days – hope not. Let’s move this along.

    Jessi – you already fit right in! :-) Everything you mentioned in your post is something that either I have or someone else or everyone of us has discussed and/or ranted about!!

  219. Trial watcher
    03/09/2013 at 5:53 pm

    hey GREY KITTY WOW it does sound like u have lived your own kind of hell but there is something I can add from personal exp. and that is what you learn from other fellow inmates
    having done 2 yrs.less a day 31 years ago now and believe u me u will say and do what it takes to save your ass and a DP case! I’ll say no more. Woman are the craftiest lot together
    in the prison system, we’ll help each other on any old story as long as it’ll work. Sorry to say I have NO doubt this is what’s going on with Arias. She’s had a lot of help and the best place to get it on abuse! I could say so much more but not sure if i’d get past moderation. LOL LOL

  220. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 5:58 pm

    Bethany :
    MMD: OK I see on her twitter a screen shot of the statement and she bought an airline ticket to Cancun two items away from the SLC bank statements. I can’t tell the date or find her post on WAT. I wonder what the hell she was going to do with that????????????
    I’m not very computer literate so I was wondering if you had a link to view her bank statement? That sounds interesting

    Bethany, I totally computer illiterate as well and I thought you saw the screen shot. He is a link twitter.com/stark3923/status/310214259785228289/photo/1

    I checked it first so it should work……..as I cross my fingers LOL

  221. Trial watcher
    03/09/2013 at 6:04 pm

    Grey Kitty: for got to say please don’t think i’m attempting to minimize your own past exp.
    But having a child in an abusive situation and having been in it yourself for 10 or more years that is an entirely different thing that can’t truly compare to this situation between JA & TA. all JA had to do was kick his ass to the curb and carry on her merry way not brutally murder him! Aside from shaking,teeth clenching and so on u didn’t get to the point of murder
    and most normal people don’t. Anyway to be fair we all have to wait on what this jury thinks,
    no matter what we would like to see happen…

  222. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 6:06 pm

    janetlynn: After this trial, or after Jodi is finished on the stand, I do think there are
    many words (of hers) that we will be hating!!

  223. Chrissie A
    03/09/2013 at 6:10 pm

    donchais :
    Chrissie A still workin it, sorry!

    I think I may be back?

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 9:06 pm

      Chrissie A Ayuh, yippee!

  224. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 6:18 pm

    Here is an interesting theory from the same person that donchais gave us the link to earlier

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8sv5p

    Comments anyone??????????????

  225. Chrissie A
    03/09/2013 at 6:30 pm

    Some Juan-tages:

  226. Dramsop
    03/09/2013 at 7:00 pm

    Anonymous :
    Chrissie A again looks like I’m still anon must be my end

    Hi Chrissie A- just a question- Did you by any chance switch from an ipad or computer to posting from your iPhone? That’s how I came up Anonymous yesterday I think – from my iPhone.

  227. Trial watcher
    03/09/2013 at 7:01 pm

    Katz63MD The police report you spoke of, if JA had called Ryan B. and actually made plans to c him on june 4th or 5th wouldn’t that help with the premeditation for the state?
    It seems like there is SO much missing from the facts in this case. I hope JM has a few aces up his sleeve and will pull them out as sharp as a knife through her heart.
    Do I sound too brutal? somehow it seems appropriate, tit for tat u know!

  228. JesusFreak
    03/09/2013 at 7:08 pm

    JesusFreak :

    donchais :
    For those of you with time on your hands, this is kinda fun!
    MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes:
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

    Just read the Biology of the Defense Case. Thanks for the heads up. What a hoot! What a waste of Arizona Dollars, but i like the way you and others find everything and post it. ty!

  229. Trial watcher
    03/09/2013 at 7:11 pm

    Hey Donchais like Vickee my man also wants me to say his thanks.
    I AM a woman possessed
    by this trial. I did watch the CA but the child involved made it even worse than this one.
    MY guy works afternoon shifts and has been woken up many times due to JA!
    How he must hate her by now! LOL LOL

  230. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 7:21 pm

    ***Folks – don’t forget to turn your clocks ahead. I already did mine this morning – that way Wednesday comes even faster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OMG – I’ve truly gone over to the dark side :-(

  231. Janet
    03/09/2013 at 7:40 pm

    Vickee :
    MMD, thank you ever so much for the video shown at Travis’ memorial. What a poignant memory in time. The sadness is deafening. I found myself having a hard time rationally believing he is gone. I cannot imagine how his family gets through each day listening to all the vileness JA spews forth about him in order to save herself.
    I know that JM will take her down , but yesterday found myself talking to him through the tv to slow down a bit as he seemed so incensed at her lies that he would stumble over his words. So glad he had the last word for 5 days. SOL Nurmi. I was surprised JA (should not be) that JA is ready to take on Walmart regarding her cash refund with no receipt. Such arrogance!! JM will do right by his family.

    Vickee- I feel the same with JM. I keep talking to him too. But donchais assured me this is his style. I just wish he would slow down and collect his thoughts sometimes. :)

  232. Nancy Pennington
    03/09/2013 at 8:02 pm

    To: dramstop. I enjoyed your post but wonder why you think JA had been abused in the past. What has been made pretty clear is that she was a problem since at least the age of 15.. She took up with a 19yr unemployed drop out, started sneaking out at night, drinking (possibly into drugs) and her parents tried to control her. The claims she made about physical violence sound way to much like the Casey Anthony school of defense. She told of one incident with Bobby Juarez and claimed the same thing happened with Travis. This makes me wonder if either are true. If her stories about being “abused” at the hands of her parents is true then a lot of kids that grew up with strict parents are ticking time bombs. We need someone to clarify the difference between parental disipline and abuse. Being grounded is not abuse. Her wooden spoon stories also have a bit of smell to them as teachers are obligated to report any such signs.

  233. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 8:04 pm

    Travis Victor Alexander was born July 28, 1977 in Riverside, CA. Alexander had three brothers and four sisters. His parents, Gary David Alexander (1948–1997), and Gary’s third wife, the late Pamela Elizabeth Morgan (1953–2005), were drug addicts. Gary Alexander died on July 28, 1997, his son Travis’ 20th birthday.

    When Alexander was ten, he and his siblings were taken in by their paternal grandmother, Norma Jean Preston Alexander Sarvey (1932–2012), who eventually introduced them to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. She did not live to see the trial open.

    Following his high school graduation, Alexander served an LDS mission in Denver, CO, from the summer of 1996 to September 1998. In 2004, he purchased the home in which he died at 11428 Queensborough Avenue in Mesa, AZ. He reportedly moved to Mesa due to a strong LDS community.

    At the time of his death, Alexander was 30 years old. He was a salesman for the network marketing company company, Prepaid Legal Services; he also worked as a motivational speaker. His funeral was held on June 21, 2008, in Riverside, CA.

  234. Trial watcher
    03/09/2013 at 8:10 pm

    Ok I have just called my local canadian wal-mart to ask their return policy and even told her why I wanted to know LOL Here Goes:
    If a person pays with cash and has their receipt they get cash back. If u pay with CC or Debit that is how your money is then refunded to u. No receipt at all gets u a gift card for the store.
    That should settle that as I would imagine the return policy is the same everywhere, though I didn’t ask that question,forgot too.

  235. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 8:49 pm

    Here is another post from Chris Stark which has the texts that Travis sent Jodi. This now gives her motive, It is certainly painting a different picture than Wurmi and JA.

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8te6s

    Comments/thoughts……………………

  236. Chrissie A
    03/09/2013 at 8:57 pm

    Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 9:21 pm

      SNORT!!!!

  237. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 9:12 pm

    Chrissie A :

    donchais :
    Chrissie A still workin it, sorry!

    I think I may be back?

    Welcome back Chrissie! Donchais, I am humbled by your computer greatness, being so computer illiterate myself:-)

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 9:22 pm

      God takes care of babies and drunks, lol!

  238. Chrissie A
    03/09/2013 at 9:25 pm

    Dramsop :

    Anonymous :
    Chrissie A again looks like I’m still anon must be my end

    Hi Chrissie A- just a question- Did you by any chance switch from an ipad or computer to posting from your iPhone? That’s how I came up Anonymous yesterday I think – from my iPhone.

    Tx Dramsop – No, I stayed on my PC laptop, it drove me nuts I kept on going into WordPress help to see if I could adjust my comments, but then the simplest solution came to mind, I cleaned my cache, rebooted, signed back in to WordPress and Bingo! (I did the same last night without cleaning my cache but it didn’t work) I’m only going into detail in case someone has the same problem in the future – :)

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 9:27 pm

      Cache cleaning is a good thing and often solves many a problem!

  239. NancyB
    03/09/2013 at 9:40 pm

    Observer :

    MMD :

    <I readily admit I know squat about guns but I do know you are able to match bullets to a gun. Well, the police have not only the bullet that was found in TA’s cheek but the casing as well. If they did find bullets in Yreka they might not be able to match the bullet to the gun but to the same batch of bullets or even manufacturer.

    If Jodi did not get rid of the ammunition for the .25 caliber gun before or after the murder, as soon as they learned about the burglary at her grandparent’s house, I’m sure Yreka police would serve a warrant for the ammunition and Mesa investigators would try to match the bullet and casing with the ammunition in Jodi’s grandparent’s home. I think if they found any ammunition for the grandparent’s stolen .25 caliber gun Jodi would have said she stole the gun to protect herself on the long road trip and took it in to show Travis the gun and it went off. However, she is dumb so maybe she didn’t think they could prove it without the gun.
    If the investigators have proof the bullet came from that gun, they may have withheld it until the rebuttal case to see how she explained the gun and knife. Now she has denied shooting Travis with her grandfather’s gun, Martinez could call an expert to the stand to testify that the bullet did come from her grandfather’s gun and that the knife used in the stabbing was not a knife from Travis’ butcher block. Maybe that’s the Perry Mason moment trial watchers are expecting.

    From your mouth to God’s ears!

  240. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 9:40 pm

    donchais :
    Cache cleaning is a good thing and often solves many a problem!

    Donchais, no lie, I still picture little people running around the back of my laptop doing all the work and this is my 4th laptop. I can shop, email, go to my fav websites, post on here but ask me to do anything else and I’m SOL! I even screwed up this site on my firefox browser so I had to switch to my google chrome. After all I have to have 4 browsers to vote at DWTS, the only reality show I watch. Oh and I also figured out how to livestream as well as play dvds.

    The only thing that I have really perfected though is shopping, especially Amazon! The UPS guy comes so often that he shovels my front walk before I even wake up. Now if only I could get him to shovel the end of the driveway by my garage where the plow can’t reach I’d be all set. I’d never have to leave my house. LOL

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 10:14 pm

      MMD Those little people, do they sing…’we represent the lollipop team, the lollipop team, the pop rocks team…ooops went a bit astray there!

  241. katz63md
    03/09/2013 at 9:45 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:

    That is sooo funny! Thanks for posting that.

  242. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 9:49 pm

    Another post from Chris Stark about the Priceline charge

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8tt31

    She’s coming up with some interesting stuff. At this rate I’m never going to get to sleep!

  243. NancyB
    03/09/2013 at 9:54 pm

    CiCi’s Circle :

    NancyB :
    Besides the domestic violence experts & Matt, also on the defense witness lists.. not
    saying they will be called…Two friends and two former girlfriends of Travis’ & Kimberly Ross, Arias’ former cell mate. Nancy Grace tweeted that Ross has a long rap sheet.

    Any ideas as to what the former cellmate has to add to all of this?

    CiCi – love all your posts! Nope, wish I did, but I seriously doubt that Ross could offer anything that would be a valid contribution because JA is 100% guilty and a complete monster.

    I do wonder if the contents of the stolen laptop of prosecution witness Dr. Janeen Demarte fell into the hands of Jodi Arias’s defense team?

    Hey, she was willing to try to smuggle a coded message out of jail via two magazines during a jail visitation – is having a laptop stolen that far fetched?

  244. Chrissie A
    03/09/2013 at 9:58 pm

    Observer :
    Travis Victor Alexander was born July 28, 1977 in Riverside, CA. Alexander had three brothers and four sisters. His parents, Gary David Alexander (1948–1997), and Gary’s third wife, the late Pamela Elizabeth Morgan (1953–2005), were drug addicts. Gary Alexander died on July 28, 1997, his son Travis’ 20th birthday.
    When Alexander was ten, he and his siblings were taken in by their paternal grandmother, Norma Jean Preston Alexander Sarvey (1932–2012), who eventually introduced them to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. She did not live to see the trial open.
    Following his high school graduation, Alexander served an LDS mission in Denver, CO, from the summer of 1996 to September 1998. In 2004, he purchased the home in which he died at 11428 Queensborough Avenue in Mesa, AZ. He reportedly moved to Mesa due to a strong LDS community.
    At the time of his death, Alexander was 30 years old. He was a salesman for the network marketing company company, Prepaid Legal Services; he also worked as a motivational speaker. His funeral was held on June 21, 2008, in Riverside, CA.

    Thanks Observer – whenever I see or hear anything about Travis’ real life the enormity of this brutal crime always hits me – that’s why I think it’s important for him to be the forefront of the trial rather than the psycho who robbed him of such a promising future.

  245. NancyB
    03/09/2013 at 10:03 pm

    Rache :
    donchais,
    Jodi had not met Travis’ siblings. I know the one sister lives in California. Do you know
    where the other sisters and brother (in attendance at the trial) live?

    Sister Samantha lives and works in Carlsbad, which is a suburb of San Diego. She is a police officer. Brothers Gary and Greg Alexander both live in Riverside, which is about an hour north of San Diego.

  246. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 10:14 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Some Juan-tages:

    Wow, he is just so awesome! No wonder defense attorneys hate him and he wins so many cases. Truly awesome!!!!

  247. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 10:18 pm

    donchais :
    MMD Those little people, do they sing…’we represent the lollipop team, the lollipop team, the pop rocks team…ooops went a bit astray there!

    ROFLMAO I KNEW that the minute I pressed post that you would think I was completely crazy! Ok, just woke 2 dogs up and scared another laughing so hard!

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 10:35 pm

      MMD, Hell, so excited Pop Rocks still manufactured, ordered me a case!

  248. Marilyn N
    03/09/2013 at 10:18 pm

    Chrissie A – Funny video. Could be on Saturday Night Live if it wasn’t such an awful
    tragedy.

  249. Chrissie A
    03/09/2013 at 10:56 pm

    MMD :

    donchais :
    Cache cleaning is a good thing and often solves many a problem!

    Donchais, no lie, I still picture little people running around the back of my laptop doing all the work and this is my 4th laptop. I can shop, email, go to my fav websites, post on here but ask me to do anything else and I’m SOL! I even screwed up this site on my firefox browser so I had to switch to my google chrome. After all I have to have 4 browsers to vote at DWTS, the only reality show I watch. Oh and I also figured out how to livestream as well as play dvds.
    The only thing that I have really perfected though is shopping, especially Amazon! The UPS guy comes so often that he shovels my front walk before I even wake up. Now if only I could get him to shovel the end of the driveway by my garage where the plow can’t reach I’d be all set. I’d never have to leave my house. LOL

    I kid you not, I have done so much online shopping during the sidebars of this trial

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 11:00 pm

      Hope you bought something shiny! Shiny always good!:-)

  250. Chrissie A
    03/09/2013 at 11:05 pm

    donchais :
    Hope you bought something shiny! Shiny always good!:-)

    To the best of my recollection

  251. Observer
    03/09/2013 at 11:13 pm

    Jodi is one of those dumb criminals who thinks they are smarter than cops.

    Staging a burglary of her grandparent’s home and stealing nothing valuable but a .25 caliber gun on May 28 and then shooting her ex boyfriend with a .25 caliber gun.

    Did she think disposing of the gun would keep the cops from making the connection?

    Renting a car as a blonde 90 miles from home so she won’t be recognized by anyone in Yreka?

    Did she think the investigators wouldn’t talk to the rental car agent?

    Buying a gas can and borrowing two others from Daryl and filling up in California so she won’t be seen on surveillance tapes buying gas in Arizona. Then keeping all the receipts so the IRS can reimburse her for a business trip to kill an ex boyfriend who has just kicked her to the curb. Noticeably missing are any receipts for gas in Arizona.

    Doesn’t she think the cops will seize those receipts?

    Lying to the cops, prosecutor and jury that she returned the third gas can at a Salinas Wal-Mart but didn’t get a receipt.

    She didn’t think the cops would think it strange that she keeps all receipts but the one from Wal-Mart and any gas stations in Arizona.

    Removing the front license plates and putting it in the front seat and trying to remove the back license plate, which hung upside down.

    Did she really think that the investigators, prosecutors and jury will buy her story that it was a kid’s prank?

    Telling Flores June 2008 that the Ninjas broke her finger June 4, 2008 when Travis was murdered, telling the jury and prosecutor that Travis broke her finger Jan. 21, 2008 and telling Ryan and the Udis that she cut her fingers on glass at Margaritaville (which doesn’t exist.) Then telling the jury she cut her fingers at Casa Ramos but the manager didn’t have her fill out a Workman’s Comp form because it isn’t a corporation and “they don’t do that.”

    She doesn’t think the investigators are going to check with Casa Ramos?

    Telling Flores June 2008 that Travis didn’t have a gun and then telling the jury she got a gun out of Travis’s closet and it went off accidentally.

    Didn’t she think the cops would remember?

    Slashing Travis’s tires twice and then slashing his throat?

    Didn’t she think she would be the number one murder suspect?

    Going on national TV and telling an unbelievable tale of Ninjas slaughtering Travis and letting her go and saying she didn’t tell anybody because she feared for her life and that of her family.

    Did she really think anybody would believe her.

    Lying all the way through the trial while admitting she lied to everybody before but now she is under oath she is telling the truth.

    Does she really think the jury and public are that stupid?

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 11:17 pm

      Obviously, yup!

  252. Bethany
    03/10/2013 at 1:56 am

    MMD: That’s as far as I got as well! That’s why I the 10 year old. I thought she posted on
    wildabouttrial.com but I couldn’t find it. I need a 10 year old for that site too.lol

    Thank you, I was able to take a look at it. Apparently I need a ten year old for that site as well! I saw the purchase for the Expedia airline tickets but I didn’t think it said where the tickets were taking her. Did you see that the tickets showed a destination? I was just curious. Thanks again it was really interesting nonetheless.

  253. Bethany
    03/10/2013 at 3:35 am

    MMD: Here is another post from Chris Stark which has the texts that Travis sent Jodi. This now gives her motive, It is certainly painting a different picture than Wurmi and JA.

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8te6s

    Comments/thoughts……………………

    Thanks for providing all these links!! They’re truly interesting…especially the part where Travis called her the sociopath. It’s extremely obvious from these texts that he was no longer happy with her and most likely was not expecting her on June 4! That’s scary to think that she just showed up out of the blue like that…she is truly a very Creepy person!!

  254. Bethany
    03/10/2013 at 3:46 am

    Chrissie A: Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:

    I agree that there is nothing funny about the murder of Travis. However, I feel that we need a little comic relief from this crazy trial of watching Crazy Jodi AriAss. Thanks for providing a little bit of comic relief I needed it.

  255. Bethany
    03/10/2013 at 4:01 am

    NancyB: I do wonder if the contents of the stolen laptop of prosecution witness Dr. Janeen Demarte fell into the hands of Jodi Arias’s defense team?

    Hey, she was willing to try to smuggle a coded message out of jail via two magazines during a jail visitation – is having a laptop stolen that far fetched?

    I kind of thought that too when I first heard of her laptop being stolen…such a weird coincidence during a trial, don’t you think?

  256. janetlynn
    03/10/2013 at 7:58 am

    MMD and Janet: LMAO! Seriously hilarious!

    I too broke down and bought a Smartphone. I want my reliable, beautiful, I can drop kick you and still work flip phone back! I used to text like a pro, now I’m one of those people who stops in the middle of the street to text “yes” to someone. I feel like my fingers are 500 pounds on this touch screen. DH still has the flip phone. Thing rattles and is falling apart but I long for that phone lol.

    My family now know to keep their questions while texting to yes or no answers or wait til I can call. So sad.

    I’m actually in Hamilton. Is the Court Reporter on here from around me? I rant about this case all day long at work. No one knows about it. One CR said I got her hooked on both this site and the Trial, so fess up if it’s you girlie.

    Chrissie A – HAHAHAHA. Did you see Beth Karas correct her on that? She had to get it in there. JA will correct herself since they watch HLN. I so want to hear her use the word again, I’ll crack up.

    Anderson 360 was about the Trial. Anyone watch?

  257. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 8:50 am

    MMD :
    Here is another post from Chris Stark which has the texts that Travis sent Jodi. This now gives her motive, It is certainly painting a different picture than Wurmi and JA.
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8te6s
    Comments/thoughts……………………

    Those texts were admitted into court by Jodi and Wurmi as examples of how “mean” Travis was to her. She read them out loud. I remember it made her look worse than Travis.I hope the jury is paying attention to the word evil and sociopath.

    Just like she was smiling in her mug shot and said she didn’t take it seriously, Jodi didn’t take his threats seriously. When he was angry at her behavior, she wouled as she said “try toi calm him down” with texts like “I’m sorry. No offense., hon. Be happy. I love you.” She knew she could reel him back in with sex.

    I think the prosecutor is right, that the motive was jealousy: that he was taking another woman to Cancun. Stalkers are enraged over rejection and kill because if they can’t have you, no one else can.

    She seduced him with sex then when she got the dog trapped downstairs and was sure both roommates were gone and not coming home, she lured him in the shower with the pretense of taking pictures and stabbed him to death.

  258. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 9:06 am

    Chrissie A :

    donchais :
    Hope you bought something shiny! Shiny always good!:-)

    To the best of my recollection

    LOL – the scary thing is that with the amount of sidebars some serious damage can be done and then you forget what you ordered. I have some books pre-ordered right up to Nov./13. Only problem is, I haven’t read any of the pile that have arrived since the trial started.LOL I don’t even check the cc bill, too painful, just pay it. :-(

  259. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 9:08 am

    donchais :
    MMD, Hell, so excited Pop Rocks still manufactured, ordered me a case!

    LOL Enjoy!

  260. Laine
    03/10/2013 at 9:17 am

    Observer – Does she really think the jury and public are that stupid? Sadly yes. The jodi is innocent page clearly shows that some people do believe her. And to GreyKitty…I am sorry for the abuse you and your son suffered at the hands of your husband, but like many of the ladies on hear have already testified to I also suffered abuse, not only at the hands of a former husband who physically and mentally abused me including cheating on me a LOT! But also at the hands of a family member who sexually abused me as a young child. I have also worked for years as a rape crisis councillor for many battered women. Never once have I felt the need or want to kill or hurt them back, wouldn’t that just make me an abuser? I understand that all women deal with things including abuse in different ways and I am by no means saying that at times it is necessary to defend themselves. But my opinions are formed by the FACTS and the FORENSIC EVIDENCE. Travis Alexander was stabbed 29 times, 9 times in the back whilst facing away from her, and a fatal wound to his heart, she sliced his throat from ear to ear pulling back his head to enable her to do this effectively, he was then shot in the face, to which a medical expert has testified travelled through his brain and would have incapacitated him. At which point of incapacity did she RUN and call the police? As a human being I wouldn’t have left someone who I wasn’t sure was dead (her testimony) to suffer without calling emergency services. She left him to rot FACT. I agree at times Travis was less than gentlemanly in his approach to her sexually, but if we judged all men by those actions we would be killing 99% of young sexually active males in our population. And that alone cannot be cause for killing someone in such a disgusting way. I feel sorry for Travis family that not only have they had to listen to how their brother was killed in such a despicable way, but they have then and continue to have to listen to her degrade and defile his very being…… all of this to save herself. Travis Alexander deserves his voice in court and slitting his throat will not stop him from being heard. JM will and has seen to that. I’m sorry this is so long, but as an ex abused and battered woman I can’t tell you how sick I am to hear her using this excuse and setting back the course of battered women years. I live my life with the philosophy that I am who I am today INSPITE of what happened to me and not BECAUSE!

  261. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 10:16 am

    janetlynn :
    MMD and Janet: LMAO! Seriously hilarious!
    I too broke down and bought a Smartphone. I want my reliable, beautiful, I can drop kick you and still work flip phone back! I used to text like a pro, now I’m one of those people who stops in the middle of the street to text “yes” to someone. I feel like my fingers are 500 pounds on this touch screen. DH still has the flip phone. Thing rattles and is falling apart but I long for that phone lol.
    My family now know to keep their questions while texting to yes or no answers or wait til I can call. So sad.
    I’m actually in Hamilton. Is the Court Reporter on here from around me? I rant about this case all day long at work. No one knows about it. One CR said I got her hooked on both this site and the Trial, so fess up if it’s you girlie.
    Chrissie A – HAHAHAHA. Did you see Beth Karas correct her on that? She had to get it in there. JA will correct herself since they watch HLN. I so want to hear her use the word again, I’ll crack up.
    Anderson 360 was about the Trial. Anyone watch?

    LOL Truly, that is so funny. I know that I am just gonna hate to part with my flip phone and I’m gonna end up with simply yes/no texts as well.

    I thought someone said that they were a court reporter in Ottawa. I know it was definitely in Ontario. Don’t think it was TO though. I would have remembered since I used to live in Oakville but I’m now on the Island. There are a few Canucks on here. This trial is getting world wide attention. On of the AZ reporters who covers the trial for the station that I watch the livestream from asked during a sidebar where people were watching from. Only saw a few replies but they included New Zealand, Scotland, alot from Canada and I think Australia.

    I’ve been watching AC and his panel with Jeff Toobin and Mark Geragos. Even Geragos who was crapping on the pros now see the genius of JM. I can’t wait until Wednesday!

  262. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 10:24 am

    Laine :
    Observer – Does she really think the jury and public are that stupid? Sadly yes. The jodi is innocent page clearly shows that some people do believe her. And to GreyKitty…I am sorry for the abuse you and your son suffered at the hands of your husband, but like many of the ladies on hear have already testified to I also suffered abuse, not only at the hands of a former husband who physically and mentally abused me including cheating on me a LOT! But also at the hands of a family member who sexually abused me as a young child. I have also worked for years as a rape crisis councillor for many battered women. Never once have I felt the need or want to kill or hurt them back, wouldn’t that just make me an abuser? I understand that all women deal with things including abuse in different ways and I am by no means saying that at times it is necessary to defend themselves. But my opinions are formed by the FACTS and the FORENSIC EVIDENCE. Travis Alexander was stabbed 29 times, 9 times in the back whilst facing away from her, and a fatal wound to his heart, she sliced his throat from ear to ear pulling back his head to enable her to do this effectively, he was then shot in the face, to which a medical expert has testified travelled through his brain and would have incapacitated him. At which point of incapacity did she RUN and call the police? As a human being I wouldn’t have left someone who I wasn’t sure was dead (her testimony) to suffer without calling emergency services. She left him to rot FACT. I agree at times Travis was less than gentlemanly in his approach to her sexually, but if we judged all men by those actions we would be killing 99% of young sexually active males in our population. And that alone cannot be cause for killing someone in such a disgusting way. I feel sorry for Travis family that not only have they had to listen to how their brother was killed in such a despicable way, but they have then and continue to have to listen to her degrade and defile his very being…… all of this to save herself. Travis Alexander deserves his voice in court and slitting his throat will not stop him from being heard. JM will and has seen to that. I’m sorry this is so long, but as an ex abused and battered woman I can’t tell you how sick I am to hear her using this excuse and setting back the course of battered women years. I live my life with the philosophy that I am who I am today INSPITE of what happened to me and not BECAUSE!

    Wow Laine I’m so sorry for the abuse you suffered. I agree with absolutely everything you said. I am most impressed with your last sentence! You rock!!!

  263. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 10:27 am

    Laine :
    Observer – Does she really think the jury and public are that stupid? Sadly yes. The jodi is innocent page clearly shows that some people do believe her. And to GreyKitty…I am sorry for the abuse you and your son suffered at the hands of your husband, but like many of the ladies on hear have already testified to I also suffered abuse, not only at the hands of a former husband who physically and mentally abused me including cheating on me a LOT! But also at the hands of a family member who sexually abused me as a young child. I have also worked for years as a rape crisis councillor for many battered women. Never once have I felt the need or want to kill or hurt them back, wouldn’t that just make me an abuser? I understand that all women deal with things including abuse in different ways and I am by no means saying that at times it is necessary to defend themselves. But my opinions are formed by the FACTS and the FORENSIC EVIDENCE. Travis Alexander was stabbed 29 times, 9 times in the back whilst facing away from her, and a fatal wound to his heart, she sliced his throat from ear to ear pulling back his head to enable her to do this effectively, he was then shot in the face, to which a medical expert has testified travelled through his brain and would have incapacitated him. At which point of incapacity did she RUN and call the police? As a human being I wouldn’t have left someone who I wasn’t sure was dead (her testimony) to suffer without calling emergency services. She left him to rot FACT. I agree at times Travis was less than gentlemanly in his approach to her sexually, but if we judged all men by those actions we would be killing 99% of young sexually active males in our population. And that alone cannot be cause for killing someone in such a disgusting way. I feel sorry for Travis family that not only have they had to listen to how their brother was killed in such a despicable way, but they have then and continue to have to listen to her degrade and defile his very being…… all of this to save herself. Travis Alexander deserves his voice in court and slitting his throat will not stop him from being heard. JM will and has seen to that. I’m sorry this is so long, but as an ex abused and battered woman I can’t tell you how sick I am to hear her using this excuse and setting back the course of battered women years. I live my life with the philosophy that I am who I am today INSPITE of what happened to me and not BECAUSE!

    Bravo. Loved your post. You’re absolutely right. Travis is the victim here, not Jodi. Martinez and all of us will speak for Travis. Women like you who have been abused and worked with rape victims can see through Jodi’s phony stories designed to smear Travis name and hurt his family and friends who saw through her and tried to warn Travis. Anybody with any brains can see Jodi is still obsessed with Travis and still in a jealous rage that she couldn’t possess him heart and soul. He wanted a good decent woman who truly cared about him. Jodi is an evil sociopath who used sex to try to trap him and when it didn’t work she planned to kill him, ambushed him, slaughtered him and tried to get away with it.

    Every time a high profile murderer is arrested, it brings out the crazies. A web page goes up saying the murderer is innocent. Groupies show up in court to support the murderer. Trolls trying to cause trouble infiltrate blogs. It doesn’t mean they think the murderer is innocent. It just means they are crazy.

  264. Rache
    03/10/2013 at 10:41 am

    NancyB :

    Rache :
    donchais,
    Jodi had not met Travis’ siblings. I know the one sister lives in California. Do you know
    where the other sisters and brother (in attendance at the trial) live?

    Sister Samantha lives and works in Carlsbad, which is a suburb of San Diego. She is a police officer. Brothers Gary and Greg Alexander both live in Riverside, which is about an hour north of San Diego.

    Thank you for replying, NancyB

  265. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 10:47 am

    Observer said:

    Every time a high profile murderer is arrested, it brings out the crazies. A web page goes up saying the murderer is innocent. Groupies show up in court to support the murderer. Trolls trying to cause trouble infiltrate blogs. It doesn’t mean they think the murderer is innocent. It just means they are crazy.
    ________________________________________________________________________

    Ain’t it the truth :-(

  266. NancyB
    03/10/2013 at 11:39 am

    This article gave me pause – while no one has a crystal ball she has an exemplary track record.
    Juror’s Question Concerning – http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/jurors-question-concerning.html

  267. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 11:56 am

    One of the jurors who obviously knows about guns asked Jodi Arias if she loaded the gun with ammunition, removed the safety slide and cocked it before it went off?

    She replied no, she wouldn’t know how to do any of those things. All she did was point the gun at him and it went off as Travis was charging her like a linebacker.

    If it was Travis’s gun why take the gun and dispose of it?

    If she didn’t know how to load a gun, remove the safety slide and cock it, why after shooting Travis with a .25 caliber handgun did she buy a 9mm to protect herself from men on a camping trip and kill herself?

    If she didn’t travel with a gun and knives, June 4, 2008, why when she was arrested July 15, 2008, did police find the 9mm, ammunition and two knives in a car she had rented?

    I have a feeling these are questions the jurors will ask her next week.

    This trial will drag on through Christmas if the jurors keep asking questions, Jodi goes round and round on the merry go round, Nurmi does the slow waltz and Martinez shoot holes in her stories with his machine gun style.

  268. NancyB
    03/10/2013 at 12:07 pm

    Rache – Travis has more siblings but the only other one I know anything about is Tanisha Sorenson. She’s in court every day with her husband, who is very loving. Tanisha looks like she has lost a lot of weight since the trial started. Here is a HLN article where she spoke out.
    http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2012/09/25/victims-sister-i-hope-jodi-arias-dies

  269. Nancy Pennington
    03/10/2013 at 12:12 pm

    Husband and I just watched the the parody and laughed although it was “bittersweet”. I also read the email Travis sent to JA. Hope JM points out that Travis must have had a reason to say those things (although JA will never tell the truth about what she did that Travis was referring to). Thanks to those that posted where to view those. Sorry but I “don’t remember” who you are. Must be in that damn fog again.

  270. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 12:29 pm

    I’m sure Jodi disposed of the ammunition that went with her grandfather’s gun when she disposed of the gun. Police didn’t find any .25 caliber bullets at her grandparent’s home but they did find .25 caliber bullets at her parents’ home. Those bullets may have been for a .25 caliber handgun her parents own.

  271. Marilyn N
    03/10/2013 at 12:34 pm

    72 hours and 24 minutes!!!

  272. 03/10/2013 at 12:39 pm

    Hi! I am new here, infact I have never even posted a comment on a site such as this or any site for that matter. First I would like to say it’s so nice to know that there are people out there consumed as myself (I was beginning to feel that MAYBE I had a personality disorder). Secondly, all the time & attention spent on their sex life is frustrating to me. Who cares? JA has said over & over it was consentual. If this was a rape trial I would think very pertinent. But this is a murder trial! I so wish more time would be spent on the premeditation. Maybe this is just the way for the defense to defer attention from what really matters? Does anyone know what became of Travis’ dog?

    • donchais
      03/10/2013 at 1:09 pm

      Jigger, welcome! Travis’ very good friend, Deanna has Napolean and he is thriving! Deanna dated Travis before Jodi. According to Jodi, Travis said Deanna was crazy. Guess that’s why he left his beloved dog to her care!

  273. Nancy Pennington
    03/10/2013 at 12:47 pm

    Have any of the guests on this site talked about the French maids outfit JA claims Travis had her wear? She said she did not have a schoolgirls outfit. Is it possible/probable that no such maids costume existed?? Rather that TA felt sorry for her and JUST offered to pay her to clean his house. Sounds like money was a problem for her and she undoubtedly would have poor mouthed to him. Do we know if one was ever recovered from her house or his??

    • donchais
      03/10/2013 at 1:10 pm

      Can you say Jodi fantasy fog? Didn’t exist cept in her twisted mind.

  274. 03/10/2013 at 1:23 pm

    TY don… amazing that he survived all the time that he was on his own b4 they found TA. Also, I take issue with JA’s explanation of the “Law of Chasity”. Seriously? Who doesn’t know the definition of that word? JM followed up with WalMart on her claims I am hoping that he will contact the Mormon Chuch to find their proticol for Missionarys. I know she would have been given phamplets just not sure what time frame would have been. Also she claims all the things she read were very confusing as to the definiton & what was appropriate. Pffffttttt. I did a search, didnt even use “mormon” just typed in law of chasity & BOOM there it was. Not only a 5 year old could hold a camera bet but could probably under stand it if they understood such behavior! Just sayin….

  275. Marilyn N
    03/10/2013 at 1:25 pm

    THere is much discussion about the Priceline charges on Jodi’s credit card statement.
    How did she get down to Mesa for Travis’s memorial? (fly?)

    • donchais
      03/10/2013 at 1:27 pm

      Yup, on her broom!

  276. Nancy Pennington
    03/10/2013 at 1:30 pm

    So glad to hear that Napolean is being taken care of. Also did anyone other JA hear Travis complain about Deanna being ‘crazy’? Don’t know why I would think maybe JA may have made that up. Silly me.

  277. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 1:37 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    Husband and I just watched the the parody and laughed although it was “bittersweet”. I also read the email Travis sent to JA. Hope JM points out that Travis must have had a reason to say those things (although JA will never tell the truth about what she did that Travis was referring to). Thanks to those that posted where to view those. Sorry but I “don’t remember” who you are. Must be in that damn fog again.

    If you are referring to the TwitLonger, Donchais originally gave us the link to read MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information. Then she created a monster because I found her twitter feed and posted all kinds of goodies. It’s all courtesy of Chris Stark. Mind you, I truly need a 10 year old to figure out the site. :-(

    Anyway, they are convinced that Travis was NOT expecting JA that night and gave a timeline and that Matt McCartney helped her cover-up things. I also found in a photo bucket the actual photos, uncensored, of TA and JA on the day of the murder (well all of the photos) The photos of JA are truly crude and I wish I could unsee them,

    Anyway, someone has blown up the last picture of TA alive to see the reflection and say that you can see JA holding the camera as well as the knife. I don’t see it but maybe someone else can. Here’s the link https://twitter.com/tracienjames/status/309837414610903041/photo/1

    I tried the link so it should work. There is a treasure trove of info over there, but you have to be 10 years old to figure it out. That’s where I also found the Priceline ticket JA bought two items from the gas purchase on the bank statement. It doesn’t show the date though.

  278. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Welcome Jigger. If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez.

    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger!:-)

    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy!

    • janet
      03/10/2013 at 2:05 pm

      @MMD, jigger- couldn’t have said that better!! Welcome!! :)

  279. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 1:43 pm

    NancyB :
    This article gave me pause – while no one has a crystal ball she has an exemplary track record.
    Juror’s Question Concerning – http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/jurors-question-concerning.html

    I think all of the questions show the jurors don’t believe her story. They word the questions carefully so it doesn’t look like they have made up their mind that she is guilty and lying to try to get out of it, which would cause a mistrial because they have been instructed that she is presumed innocent until they hear all the evidence and witnesses and they start deliberations.

    Instead of asking: “You’re lying about calling every man Hottie Biscotti, aren’t you?” a juror asked her if she had any text messages or emails to prove it. Instead of asking if she was lying about the Jan 20 and 21, 2008 incidents, the juror asked her why she didn’t leave after the incidents. Same with questions like: “When he hit you, why didn’t you leave?” and “Why didn’t you just run out of the house instead of getting the gun?.” “If he is a pedophile, why did you keep sleeping with him and say you wanted your children to play with Travis’ children?”

    Jodi is playing the victim and saying Travis was controlling and manipulating her and she didn’t have any choice but to have sex she didn’t want, endure his physical ane mental abuse and kill him.

    The jury is saying you had choices and you chose to have sex, stay with him and stab and shoot him.

    Even if there are some idiots on the jury who might buy into some of her lies, the logical jurors will convince them the truth and they will listen.

  280. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 1:50 pm

    Observer :
    I’m sure Jodi disposed of the ammunition that went with her grandfather’s gun when she disposed of the gun. Police didn’t find any .25 caliber bullets at her grandparent’s home but they did find .25 caliber bullets at her parents’ home. Those bullets may have been for a .25 caliber handgun her parents own.

    It also could be where JA put the bullets. Since a .25 caliber is fairly rare, I wonder what the odds are that her parents would have the same gun?????? It will be interesting to see what JM is holding back.

  281. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 1:53 pm

    Marilyn N :
    72 hours and 24 minutes!!!

    Welcome Nancy – you have truly crossed over to the dark side like me!!! I reset my clocks early yesterday morning so it would make Wednesday come faster. LOL

  282. 03/10/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Thank You 4 welcome MMD. And I agree don’s reporting & comments are the best!

  283. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 2:13 pm

    MMD :

    Anyway, they are convinced that Travis was NOT expecting JA that night and gave a timeline and that Matt McCartney helped her cover-up things. I also found in a photo bucket the actual photos, uncensored, of TA and JA on the day of the murder (well all of the photos) The photos of JA are truly crude and I wish I could unsee them,
    Anyway, someone has blown up the last picture of TA alive to see the reflection and say that you can see JA holding the camera as well as the knife. I don’t see it but maybe someone else can. Here’s the link https://twitter.com/tracienjames/status/309837414610903041/photo/1
    I tried the link so it should work. There is a treasure trove of info over there, but you have to be 10 years old to figure it out. That’s where I also found the Priceline ticket JA bought two items from the gas purchase on the bank statement. It doesn’t show the date though.

    Thanks for the link.

    I couldn’t see the reflection but I believe she stabbed him with one hand while holding the camera with the other hand. I’m convinced he never saw the knife until it plunged into his chest or belly and then with losing blood and weak he tried to grab the blade which was why his hands were sliced extensively. The camera was dropped as soom as she started the knife attack. She showed no mercy and stabbed him 27 times, plunged the knife into his heart and slit his throat.

    Common sense says if you plan to murder someone, you don’t warn them ahead of time. Considering the way he felt about Jodi on June 4, 2008, according to the text messages she read and his friends saying he was through with her and moving on, she knew Travis would leave if he knew she was coming. He also might tell a roommate or friend and she didn’t want anybody to know she had even been near Mesa.

    Jodi turned her phone off before she headed for Arizona so her phone wouldn’t ping on any cell phone towers near. If he invited her and she had no intention of killing him, she would have talked to him all the way there. He was probably shocked and disgusted when she showed up in his home.

  284. Laine
    03/10/2013 at 2:15 pm

    donchais :Yup, on her broom!

    Hahaha…That really made me smile!

  285. 03/10/2013 at 2:42 pm

    TY 2 Janet 4 welcome! Hey my Hubby (who by the way, thanks you don from the bottom of his heart for giving me somewhere to talk about this besides with him!! LOL) has an interesting theory about the gun. He thinks a posse of people could cover every square inch of the desert & not find the gun cuz he feels its @ the bottom of hoover day. I gotta say, he is probably right.

    That reenactment on youtube.. don’t remember who did it, but the link was posted here, i think is spot on!

  286. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 2:43 pm

    Jigger, Travis’ two roommates took care of Napoleon after June 4, 2008 thinking Travis had already gone to Cancun. They told the cops Travis often left on trips without telling them and they would just feed and water his dog until he got back.

  287. 03/10/2013 at 2:45 pm

    oops sry… day = dam (blushing)

  288. Marilyn N
    03/10/2013 at 2:50 pm

    I think if she had given him warning about the knife, he could have easily grabbed it
    or knocked it out of her hands. SHe maybe was talking crazy, and then stabbed him
    when he was sitting down.

  289. Anonymous
    03/10/2013 at 2:55 pm

    I’m so glad that I found this site..It’s great

    • donchais
      03/10/2013 at 2:58 pm

      Welcome!

  290. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 3:19 pm

    Marilyn N :
    I think if she had given him warning about the knife, he could have easily grabbed it
    or knocked it out of her hands. SHe maybe was talking crazy, and then stabbed him
    when he was sitting down.

    If she was talking crazy, he would have got out of the shower. I bet she was calm and cool as a cucumber as she stabbed him with the left hand while holding the camera in the right hand.

    I suspect the stab to the heart was one of the first blows and it just took two minutes for him to bleed out and die. He would have lost blood, been weak and in shock. As she continued to stab him in the back and neck, he might have been able to crawl on his hands and knees or stagger to the sink where he pulled himself up and then leaning on the walls made his way towards the bedroom where he collapsed on the rug. To finish him off, she cut his throat and he bled out. The ME said he was dead when she dragged him back to the sink where she shot him in the head.

  291. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 3:52 pm

    Anonymous :
    I’m so glad that I found this site..It’s great

    I’ll add my welcome as well Anon (hope you don’t mind if I use the same one I used with Jigger). If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez.

    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger!:-)

    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy!

  292. NancyB
    03/10/2013 at 3:55 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    Husband and I just watched the the parody and laughed although it was “bittersweet”. I also read the email Travis sent to JA. Hope JM points out that Travis must have had a reason to say those things (although JA will never tell the truth about what she did that
    Travis was referring to). Thanks to those that posted where to view those. Sorry but I “don’t remember” who you are. Must be in that damn fog again.

    I too hope that the context of the circumstances (JA’s stalking, intrusive and duplicitous behavior was escalating) is made crystal clear to the jurors. Actually, I was very proud of Travis for finally telling this low life skank off. Do any of you think that he knew she was coming to see him? I keep vacillating between believing that he did not know to thinking that she called him either in Pasadena or after giving him a heads up. I can;t remember what the phone records reveal.

    I keep wondering where in the hell did she park her car? She could not have parked in Travis’ driveway (or garage, which she could access) because his roommates would have questions about whose car it was.

  293. Laine
    03/10/2013 at 4:07 pm

    Observer :

    Marilyn N :I think if she had given him warning about the knife, he could have easily grabbed itor knocked it out of her hands. SHe maybe was talking crazy, and then stabbed himwhen he was sitting down.

    If she was talking crazy, he would have got out of the shower. I bet she was calm and cool as a cucumber as she stabbed him with the left hand while holding the camera in the right hand.
    I suspect the stab to the heart was one of the first blows and it just took two minutes for him to bleed out and die. He would have lost blood, been weak and in shock. As she continued to stab him in the back and neck, he might have been able to crawl on his hands and knees or stagger to the sink where he pulled himself up and then leaning on the walls made his way towards the bedroom where he collapsed on the rug. To finish him off, she cut his throat and he bled out. The ME said he was dead when she dragged him back to the sink where she shot him in the head.

    I totally agree with this sequence of events, the medical examiner said his lungs were nicked when she stabbed him in the chest and gut and that would have had him coughing up blood at the sink, as she I believe continued to stab him in the back. I think he try to make the bedroom maybe to get to a phone and collapsed by the bedroom door where she slit his throat then dragged him back to the shower for the final shot to the face.

  294. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 4:12 pm

    NancyB :

    Nancy Pennington :
    Husband and I just watched the the parody and laughed although it was “bittersweet”. I also read the email Travis sent to JA. Hope JM points out that Travis must have had a reason to say those things (although JA will never tell the truth about what she did that
    Travis was referring to). Thanks to those that posted where to view those. Sorry but I “don’t remember” who you are. Must be in that damn fog again.

    I too hope that the context of the circumstances (JA’s stalking, intrusive and duplicitous behavior was escalating) is made crystal clear to the jurors. Actually, I was very proud of Travis for finally telling this low life skank off. Do any of you think that he knew she was coming to see him? I keep vacillating between believing that he did not know to thinking that she called him either in Pasadena or after giving him a heads up. I can;t remember what the phone records reveal.
    I keep wondering where in the hell did she park her car? She could not have parked in Travis’ driveway (or garage, which she could access) because his roommates would have questions about whose car it was.

    Check out this. I found it courtesy of Chris Stark:

    #JodiArias Travis was NOT expecting Jodi June 4 at 4am here is my proof:

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8sv5p

    I still don’t know what to think. How about you?

    I also read that JM is going to stay away from the stalking and focus more on the premeditation aspect. (same source)

  295. NancyB
    03/10/2013 at 4:23 pm

    Observer :
    Jigger, Travis’ two roommates took care of Napoleon after June 4, 2008 thinking Travis had already gone to Cancun. They told the cops Travis often left on trips without telling them and they would just feed and water his dog until he got back.

    In Travis’ will he left Napoleon to his friend Deanna Reid. So that’s where he’s been since Travis’ murder. He so adored that dog that he was mentioned along with his siblings and grandmother in his obituary.

  296. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 4:36 pm

    Jigger, I agree if Jodi Lying Mouth testified that she threw the gun in the desert, it’s not there.

    There is a lot of desert in the roughly 700 miles, depending on what route you take, between Mesa and Salt Lake so it probably couldn’t be found anyway.

    The gun could be at the bottom of Hoover Dam. All we know is she made sure her grandfather’s gun would never be found and traced back to her.

    Travis was dead by 5:30 pm and his killer had to be out of the house by 6:30 p.m. because his roommate was expected home, so she would have been driving in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic through Phoenix in a “blackout” before she “woke up” in the desert.

    If a juror buys her story, I’ll sell him my ocean front property in the middle of the Arizona desert. LOL

  297. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 4:51 pm

    NancyB :

    Observer :
    Jigger, Travis’ two roommates took care of Napoleon after June 4, 2008 thinking Travis had already gone to Cancun. They told the cops Travis often left on trips without telling them and they would just feed and water his dog until he got back.

    In Travis’ will he left Napoleon to his friend Deanna Reid. So that’s where he’s been since Travis’ murder. He so adored that dog that he was mentioned along with his siblings and grandmother in his obituary.

    Travis was murdered June 4. His body wasn’t discovered until June 9. Jigger asked how Napoleon survived on his own the five days between the murder and his body being found. I answered that his roommates took care of the dog thinking Travis was in Cancun. Deanna Reid took the dog after the body was discovered and the wiil read.

  298. donchais
    03/10/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Observer…receiving messages under your hat name, but different emails, yet same IP…not what you post under…JUST A HEADS-UP AND HOLDING IN MODERATION…SORRY! Checking into it…bear with me!

  299. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 5:22 pm

    Anonymous :
    If Jodi did receive corrective lenses until 2012 why did she purchase contact solution along with he gas can? Contact solution also removes blood stains.

    Friends of Travis said she wore contacts in 2007 and 2008. She most likely felt glasses would make her look more like a smart librarian than a sexpot to the jury so she got glasses for court.

  300. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 5:28 pm

    donchais :
    Observer…receiving messages under your hat name, but different emails, yet same IP…not what you post under…JUST A HEADS-UP AND HOLDING IN MODERATION…SORRY! Checking into it…bear with me!

    I’m using someone else’s computer so maybe their email address is coming up. If you want to email me, I’ll verify it. I’ve been reading the Observer posts and they are written by me. Thanks for the alert.

  301. NancyB
    03/10/2013 at 5:36 pm

    Observer :

    NancyB :
    This article gave me pause – while no one has a crystal ball she has an exemplary track
    record.
    Juror’s Question Concerning – http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/jurors-question-concerning.html

    I think all of the questions show the jurors don’t believe her story. They word the questions carefully so it doesn’t look like they have made up their mind that she is guilty and lying to try to get out of it, which would cause a mistrial because they have been instructed that she is presumed innocent until they hear all the evidence and witnesses and they start deliberations.
    Instead of asking: “You’re lying about calling every man Hottie Biscotti, aren’t you?” a juror asked her if she had any text messages or emails to prove it. Instead of asking if she was lying about the Jan 20 and 21, 2008 incidents, the juror asked her why she didn’t leave after the incidents. Same with questions like: “When he hit you, why didn’t you leave?” and “Why didn’t you just run out of the house instead of getting the gun?.” “If he is a pedophile, why did you keep sleeping with him and say you wanted your children to play with Travis’ children?”
    Jodi is playing the victim and saying Travis was controlling and manipulating her and she didn’t have any choice but to have sex she didn’t want, endure his physical ane mental abuse and kill him.
    The jury is saying you had choices and you chose to have sex, stay with him and stab and shoot him.
    Even if there are some idiots on the jury who might buy into some of her lies, the logical jurors will convince them the truth and they will listen.

    Many Thanks Observer! Your comments are grounded in fact and that has a calming effect on me. The most heinous crime I have ever known of was the Christian-Newsome torture murders. I came here never even hearing that the crimes had happened. It was close to the end of the initial trials and I read backwards to the beginning of Donchais’ excellent coverage of the horrifying crimes those upstanding, fine and sweet college kids suffered.

    I will never be able to get all of the horrendous details out of mind. Those parents are in my thoughts and prayers a lot. The murder of Travis is a close 2nd if measuring on a scale of depravity. Maybe I’m naive but I truly believe that Travis was a 30 yr old virgin before JA. Not one girlfriend testified to the contrary. He spent almost all of his time with folks from his church. No one is an angel but Travis was a thoughtful young man – anyone can tell that from reading his blog posts. The post shortly before he died where he mentioned that he was “desperately trying to find out if my date has an axe murderer penned up inside of her” was very prescient and in retrospect it was chilling.

    His blog reveals a lot of who he was. Truly, I do not believe that Travis knew that he was being recorded during that sex tape. He was half asleep and JA was the one that orchestrated all the directions that call covered. She is pure evil personified. I just wish that when the jury asks her questions that they didn’t keep referring to Travis’ physical abuse and pedophilia as if those lies were established fact. Even when some of their questions challenges on some level her behavior as it relates to his abuse/pedophilia, their questions have been worded as if there has been corroborating evidence that establishes and substantiates her lies. Maybe, I am over reacting. I hope so.

    Lastly, I never had ANY idea that such a brutal and vicious crime could be done in less than 2 minutes time. And that time frame includes the dragging of his body back into the shower. How she could stab him even once and superficially; let alone what she did is something I really can’t compute. This crime truly frightens me. She was such an effective sweet talking monster on the 48 hour interview. It is still chilling to me even though I’ve seen it a few times. On Chris Stark’s twitlonger she has a large picture of poor Travis’ feet. OMG did he suffer! The medical examiner determined from all of those wounds and deep contusions that she had to have repeatedly stomped on his feet and/or used some weapon like a bat to have inflicted the damage he found. In this case I would prefer an eye for an eye. I know that sounds brutal but I actually mean it. I’d prefer for her end to match the one she inflicted on Travis.The needle is a blessing -an easy painless death and no comparison to the physical and mental torture that she inflicted on dearest Travis. Rant over.

  302. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 5:38 pm

    Donchais, I’ve only sent one message since you gave the warning. That was a reply to Anonymous. If you’ve got more than that. They aren’t from me.

    • donchais
      03/10/2013 at 5:43 pm

      K, Observer

  303. NancyB
    03/10/2013 at 5:39 pm

    Observer :

    NancyB :

    Observer :
    Jigger, Travis’ two roommates took care of Napoleon after June 4, 2008 thinking Travis had already gone to Cancun. They told the cops Travis often left on trips without telling them and they would just feed and water his dog until he got back.

    In Travis’ will he left Napoleon to his friend Deanna Reid. So that’s where he’s been since Travis’ murder. He so adored that dog that he was mentioned along with his siblings and grandmother in his obituary.

    Travis was murdered June 4. His body wasn’t discovered until June 9. Jigger asked how Napoleon survived on his own the five days between the murder and his body being found. I answered that his roommates took care of the dog thinking Travis was in Cancun. Deanna Reid took the dog after the body was discovered and the wiil read.

    Thanks for correcting me Observer! My reading comprehension is poor today.

  304. Trial watcher
    03/10/2013 at 5:50 pm

    I saw the video, amusing or what! So True!! Ms. Evasive Arias? can’t wait until wed.to c
    what JM has going on. U have got a great site happening here, TY for all of your hard work.
    We do appreciate everything. All of the comments,old and new show that this trial really has caught the interest of people around the world! Is it possible that many woman thought they may identify with JA until they heard the facts? Now we know that all she has said about Travis is what she’s made up to fit her defense. Do u think we have all 12 on board with us on the DP? I have heard there is ONE female juror still writing notes at the end of last day. True?? I would think the note taking would be at an end by this point or is it still more questions or just for own memory for deliberation time?? Anyone??

  305. 03/10/2013 at 5:56 pm

    Unfortunately the jurors give me anxiety. I thought their questions were great but I felt they were so wrapped up in the sex instead of premeditation. It makes me sound like an evil person but I am wanting death. And the premeditation is key for that.I hope the jurors are connecting the dots. Trying to keep the faith in JM.

    Is it Wednesday yet???

  306. Trial watcher
    03/10/2013 at 5:59 pm

    would like to add, I asked about Travis’s dog Nappy a few times so thank you for that info
    about his care and whereabouts. I feel good to hear that he’s being loved and cared for by someone like Travis’s good friend. never mind what the nutbar (JA) had to say about this lady supposedly being called,”crazy” by Travis. Not True!!! Lucky Nap!!

  307. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 5:59 pm

    Observer :

    Anonymous :
    If Jodi did receive corrective lenses until 2012 why did she purchase contact solution along with he gas can? Contact solution also removes blood stains.

    Friends of Travis said she wore contacts in 2007 and 2008. She most likely felt glasses would make her look more like a smart librarian than a sexpot to the jury so she got glasses for court.

    Well then that’s an outright lie but then what isn’t! She testified in great detail about her eye sight and how everything was a blur until she tried on someone’s glasses. She said she didn’t realize that things could be that crisp. It was part of a jury question because she was asked how she could drive if she couldn’t see at a distance. She said she could see the road signs but had to get close to them. She also explained about how she doesn’t need them for reading just distance.

    I’m pretty sure that she said she got glasses in 2010.

    Liar, liar, pants on fire!

  308. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 6:03 pm

    Trial watcher :
    I saw the video, amusing or what! So True!! Ms. Evasive Arias? can’t wait until wed.to c
    what JM has going on. U have got a great site happening here, TY for all of your hard work.
    We do appreciate everything. All of the comments,old and new show that this trial really has caught the interest of people around the world! Is it possible that many woman thought they may identify with JA until they heard the facts? Now we know that all she has said about Travis is what she’s made up to fit her defense. Do u think we have all 12 on board with us on the DP? I have heard there is ONE female juror still writing notes at the end of last day. True?? I would think the note taking would be at an end by this point or is it still more questions or just for own memory for deliberation time?? Anyone??

    Problem is nobody knows who the 12 jurors will be. I’m hoping that the one who people seem to think JA relates to (eye contact, smiles, young, purple or blue hair, front row) is not one of them.

  309. donchais
    03/10/2013 at 6:09 pm

    Have a wonderful lady who sits in court each day and has given me permission to share her observations (as well, she agreed to share all your best wishes, thoughts and prayers with Travis’ family)!

    She has her own nicknames for each juror…

    Which 6 jurors would you cut if you could?

    Hmmmm…good question. As I think he has all the males in his pocket..well let’s say who I’d keep. My Fabulous 4 on the back row–CPA, Wrestler, Neil, Poquito. Then on the front CEO and Paul Rudd..that is 6.

    Then I’ll go with The ARtist. that’s 7

    Oh and Donald Trump. that’s 8

    For the ladies I“ll pick Juror 1, Barb, Nancy and Ponytail.

    There’s my fantasy jury for today. And CEO is my foreperson.

    Before I answer another question, and without breaking any confidence I will just say, I know there are MORE Perry Mason moments coming. This was just the beginning….lots more. Stay tuned.

    Edited to add I don’t know WHAT they are, just that they exist from a very very credible source. And I know the color of the folder that contains them.

    Perrt Mason refer to Juan jumping in Arias’ bull!
    ***bumped***

  310. MMD
    03/10/2013 at 6:17 pm

    Jigger :
    Unfortunately the jurors give me anxiety. I thought their questions were great but I felt they were so wrapped up in the sex instead of premeditation. It makes me sound like an evil person but I am wanting death. And the premeditation is key for that.I hope the jurors are connecting the dots. Trying to keep the faith in JM.
    Is it Wednesday yet???

    You are not an evil person! I have said on here many times that I am not a proponent of the death penalty. If fact I am completely against it but for JA I would crank up the chair or give her the injection myself. The day she ceases to exist will be a day I will celebrate!!!!

    And don’t worry about the jurors, once JM pulls his magic tricks during his rebuttal and closing arguments, I firmly believe she will be toast!

  311. Observer
    03/10/2013 at 6:45 pm

    NancyB :

    Maybe I’m naive but I truly believe that Travis was a 30 yr old virgin before JA. Not one girlfriend testified to the contrary. He spent almost all of his time with folks from his church. No one is an angel but Travis was a thoughtful young man – anyone can tell that from reading his blog posts. The post shortly before he died where he mentioned that he was “desperately trying to find out if my date has an axe murderer penned up inside of her” was very prescient and in retrospect it was chilling.
    His blog reveals a lot of who he was. Truly, I do not believe that Travis knew that he was being recorded during that sex tape. He was half asleep and JA was the one that orchestrated all the directions that call covered. She is pure evil personified. I just wish that when the jury asks her questions that they didn’t keep referring to Travis’ physical abuse and pedophilia as if those lies were established fact. Even when some of their questions challenges on some level her behavior as it relates to his abuse/pedophilia, their questions have been worded as if there has been corroborating evidence that establishes and substantiates her lies. Maybe, I am over reacting. I hope so.
    Lastly, I never had ANY idea that such a brutal and vicious crime could be done in less than 2 minutes time. And that time frame includes the dragging of his body back into the shower. How she could stab him even once and superficially; let alone what she did is something I really can’t compute. This crime truly frightens me. She was such an effective sweet talking monster on the 48 hour interview. It is still chilling to me even though I’ve seen it a few times. On Chris Stark’s twitlonger she has a large picture of poor Travis’ feet. OMG did he suffer! The medical examiner determined from all of those wounds and deep contusions that she had to have repeatedly stomped on his feet and/or used some weapon like a bat to have inflicted the damage he found. In this case I would prefer an eye for an eye. I know that sounds brutal but I actually mean it. I’d prefer for her end to match the one she inflicted on Travis.The needle is a blessing -an easy painless death and no comparison to the physical and mental torture that she inflicted on dearest Travis. Rant over.

    Wonderful post, Nancy. Did Dr. Horn testify in court that Travis’ feet were stomped on or pounded with a bat? I didn’t hear that. I thought 28 stab wounds, a slit throat and a bullet in the head was horrific. But to stomp on his feet on top of that. She tortured him to death because he said no to her and Jodi always gets her way.

    You’re not naive. Travis was a virgin and took the Law of Chastity seriously until he met the Whore of California and she seduced him and stole his virginity. His friends said Travis was attracted to Jodi because she was nice, beautiful and wanted to be LDS, which was so important to him. Jodi had been having sex with anything in pants since she was a teenager so she seduced Travis. It hurts my heart to think how he suffered and the heartache his family and friends are suffering as they are forced to relive the horror their brother and friend endured at the hands of this monster. But also to sit there while his murderer accuses him of the horrific crimes of rape, pedophilia and domestic abuse. She knows this disgusting sex talk is offending everyone in the courtroom and she does it for shock value and to keep herself in front of the TV cameras.

    Travis called her an evil sociopath in his text and mentioned ax murder in his writings but he never had any idea that she was capable of butchering him. She needs to be put to death because she looks and sounds so nice, sweet and innocent and inside she is a heartless psychopath who murdered a good decent man with no clue he was sleeping with the devil. Can you imagine a murderer smiling in her jailhouse mug shot and then explaining on national TV that she smiled because the man she just butchered 40 days before would laugh if he was arrested for murder. Then she adds she didn’t take her arrest seriously and knew she’d be out in a few days because she was innocent. This evil sociopath doesn’t deserve any mercy. You’re right. A needle in the arm is too easy. An eye for an eye is her appropriate punishment while we all watch on national TV.

  312. donchais
    03/10/2013 at 6:52 pm

    Observer :
    snipped by Admin for length

    Nice to see ‘your’ hat, email and ip!

  313. Trial watcher
    03/10/2013 at 7:04 pm

    All we can do is hope the jurors c what we all do when it comes to JA’s lies and constant contradictions. I so wish we got a chance to watch the reaction of the jurors to her BS
    but….. not the way it works on TV. Can’t wait for it to be over and anxious to c Arias’s
    mother get a ” well deserved slap in the face” for her immature behavior along with her sister’s in the courtroom. What kind of mother would find any of this funny?
    One with a daughter like Jody! Like Mother like daughter!!

  314. Trial watcher
    03/10/2013 at 7:32 pm

    One more comment please D?
    I just saw the link to Chris Stark, read TA’s text to JA. OMG! Is that not great ev of premed?
    Then 2 DAYS later the robbery of the .25 gun. Spare me the bullshit!!
    PREMEDITATION JM !!

  315. Trial watcher
    03/10/2013 at 7:56 pm

    two more comments after all
    I watched for the 3rd time the memorial video of Travis and thank the good lord the alexander family did NOT have one photo of him and Arias in it! That would have been awful considering… I have wondered how on earth the family was able to put Travis’s service together so beautifully and quickly in a one day period. It seems like he truly was loved and
    admired by so many different people in his all too short life.
    A 5 month affair and look how he had to pay for it. I wonder why this was the one she chose to kill. not like it was the first time the ho got dumped on for her insane actions. Just thinking
    on a sunny Sunday about what other folks in life have to deal with! Life sucks, at times.

  316. Dramsop
    03/10/2013 at 8:03 pm

    MMD :
    Here is another post from Chris Stark which has the texts that Travis sent Jodi. This now gives her motive, It is certainly painting a different picture than Wurmi and JA.
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8te6s
    Comments/thoughts……………………

    Hi MMD-my take on this is that -Judging by the amount of upset coming from Travis – Arias took it one step way too far with the manipulations, and hit a nerve of pride or decency that was his bottom line and so insulted him, he fought back. People like Arias’ standard bag of tricks includes creating “imaginary people” or “situations” to trump up her own position to manipulate the other person to do what she wants.. For example – saying, ” I have someone else who is really interested in me ….” to try to make him jealous or “I have proof of someone who saw you viewing child porn” to try to control him or ” I have been told by someone that you were sleeping with….” It sounds to me like a big fishing expedition of trying to control him that backfired on her. Instead of being manipulated, he fought back ( like a normal person ) against some horrid allegation that she could not / would not substantiate. Maybe his threats meant he was finally fed up and going to take legal or some other action to challenge her on her BS. He cared about her to have been so hurt by her and he just hit his bottom line. So sad. I think he was starting to get a clear picture of the real Jodi, but like most normal people, he couldn’t even begin to comprehend the extent of it.

    • janet
      03/10/2013 at 9:34 pm

      Dramsop! I thought the same too about her making him jealous of “made up” people, only I wrote in a response to someone! Although I didn’t think about her saying stuff like porn or little boys!!! That’s very good assumption on ur part !!! Way to go!!!!!

  317. 03/10/2013 at 8:04 pm

    MMD… crank up the chair!!! LOL
    Trial, JA’s mother has been bothering me as well. I’m afraid I find no humor in the proceedings. And absolutely everyday day you see her giggling & smiling about something. But then her daughter has seemed to find delight alot of the time as well. Kinda sick & twisted. While she was answering jurors questions, she most time had a grin. I think she is really enjoying this & feels she is duping us all. So looking 4ward to that smirk getting wiped off her face (crossing fingers, legs, eyes & any other body part that will cross).

  318. MADDONA
    03/10/2013 at 8:05 pm

    Even thought Walmart may give cash back for a return when a purchase is made with cash, they do cross the item off the receipt but they do a whole transaction in the computer as well for INVENTORY purposes! Walmart does NOT just whip open the register and hand out money freely without having an accounting of all money in and all money out.

  319. Chrissie A
    03/10/2013 at 8:10 pm

    Bethany :
    Chrissie A: Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:
    I agree that there is nothing funny about the murder of Travis. However, I feel that we need a little comic relief from this crazy trial of watching Crazy Jodi AriAss. Thanks for providing a little bit of comic relief I needed it.

    Good to hear that, I was a bit hesitant to post it, as I in no way want to diminish the atrocity that took place.I do wish they’d have put the big herp on her lip though :-)

  320. Chrissie A
    03/10/2013 at 8:32 pm

    NancyB :
    This article gave me pause – while no one has a crystal ball she has an exemplary track record.
    Juror’s Question Concerning – http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/jurors-question-concerning.html

    As they say there is always one, but I really hope this isn’t the case. When I watch trials I always try to put myself in the seat of a juror – I don’t pay much attention to the talking heads etc. and go by the evidence that has been admitted. When I followed the Anthony trial I was the only person amongst my pals that thought she would be acquitted. – Not because I thought she was innocent, but I didn’t think that the state proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt. In this case. I think there is overwhelming evidence of premeditation which hopefully Juan will continue proving this coming week.

  321. Chrissie A
    03/10/2013 at 8:44 pm

    janetlynn :

    Chrissie A – HAHAHAHA. Did you see Beth Karas correct her on that? She had to get it in there. JA will correct herself since they watch HLN. I so want to hear her use the word again, I’ll crack up.
    Anderson 360 was about the Trial. Anyone watch?

    I didn’t see Beth but de-edify has been all over Twitter, no doubt there will be some more gems – as in her pronunciation of Greenwich as Greenwitch, (another example of her jailhouse textbook education) by the by are you by chance a fellow Brit living over here? I noticed you spelled humor as humour which is the usually the English way :-)

  322. Rache
    03/10/2013 at 8:46 pm

    NancyB :
    Rache – Travis has more siblings but the only other one I know anything about is Tanisha Sorenson. She’s in court every day with her husband, who is very loving. Tanisha looks like she has lost a lot of weight since the trial started. Here is a HLN article where she spoke out.
    http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2012/09/25/victims-sister-i-hope-jodi-arias-dies

    NancyB,
    I have also noticed how affectionate Tanisha’s husband is. She looks devastated and it really upsets me when people say she is glaring at JA. My gosh, her brother was brutally murdered by her….how else should Tanisha look at her??? Thank you for the link. The last paragraph was very touching. I really feel for Travis’ siblings.

  323. Marilyn N
    03/10/2013 at 9:01 pm

    Regarding the texts that Travis sent Jodi, (#372 & posted by Chris Stark) are they or have they been
    put into evidence? I sure hope so!!

  324. Chrissie A
    03/10/2013 at 9:07 pm

    Marilyn N :
    72 hours and 24 minutes!!!

    Lol – A few minutes of Juan grilling her at the end of last week may tide you over for a bit:

  325. Marilyn N
    03/10/2013 at 9:17 pm

    I just heard on Websleuth’s Crime TIme Radio, that Janine Drive is going to be sitting
    in the courtroom this coming week to observe the jury. I do hope it is true!

  326. Chrissie A
    03/10/2013 at 9:41 pm

    Jigger :
    Unfortunately the jurors give me anxiety. I thought their questions were great but I felt they were so wrapped up in the sex instead of premeditation. It makes me sound like an evil person but I am wanting death. And the premeditation is key for that.I hope the jurors are connecting the dots. Trying to keep the faith in JM.
    Is it Wednesday yet???

    Welcome Jigger! My impression is that they are trying to catch her out lying to them. And as Nurmi has draaaaaggggged out the sexcapades, (his specialty) they have taken up so much of the testimony. It will be interesting to see the questions we get when Juan is through with her :-)

  327. Marilyn N
    03/10/2013 at 9:48 pm
  328. Chrissie A
    03/10/2013 at 9:52 pm

    Trial watcher :
    All we can do is hope the jurors c what we all do when it comes to JA’s lies and constant contradictions. I so wish we got a chance to watch the reaction of the jurors to her BS
    but….. not the way it works on TV. Can’t wait for it to be over and anxious to c Arias’s
    mother get a ” well deserved slap in the face” for her immature behavior along with her sister’s in the courtroom. What kind of mother would find any of this funny?
    One with a daughter like Jody! Like Mother like daughter!!

    Their behavior shows ignorance and a lack of compassion. There are a few things that money cannot buy, two of which are class and style, which is clearly demonstrated by Travis’ siblings every day in the courtroom – which I hope that the jury is picking up on :-)

  329. Chrissie A
    03/10/2013 at 10:19 pm

    donchais :
    Have a wonderful lady who sits in court each day and has given me permission to share her observations (as well, she agreed to share all your best wishes, thoughts and prayers with Travis’ family)!
    She has her own nicknames for each juror…
    Which 6 jurors would you cut if you could?
    Hmmmm…good question. As I think he has all the males in his pocket..well let’s say who I’d keep. My Fabulous 4 on the back row–CPA, Wrestler, Neil, Poquito. Then on the front CEO and Paul Rudd..that is 6.
    Then I’ll go with The ARtist. that’s 7
    Oh and Donald Trump. that’s 8
    For the ladies I“ll pick Juror 1, Barb, Nancy and Ponytail.
    There’s my fantasy jury for today. And CEO is my foreperson.
    Before I answer another question, and without breaking any confidence I will just say, I know there are MORE Perry Mason moments coming. This was just the beginning….lots more. Stay tuned.
    Edited to add I don’t know WHAT they are, just that they exist from a very very credible source. And I know the color of the folder that contains them.
    Perrt Mason refer to Juan jumping in Arias’ bull!
    ***bumped***

    If she would be so kind as to give us all of her nicknames of the jurors including the seating of the rows I will attempt a graphic (with the rows and heads named) so that we can visualize?

  330. Family of Law
    03/10/2013 at 10:33 pm

    I am a paralegal in Chicago, for 29 years. My father was an Illinois prosecutor (a great one at that:). I have been following the State vs Jodi Arias since shortly after her arrest when I saw her on Inside Edition. I’m very impressed by Juan Martinez, he is skillfully weaving his case, and I expect an extraordinary closing. And pray, a Murder 1 conviction, DP granted.

    Something has been bothering me, I do not understand how she cleaned herself up before arriving at her “alibi” in Utah? JA said she “noticed” blood on her hands (conveniently before reaching the checkpoint near the Hoover Dam). So, she went to her trunk and got out the Costco water, and rinsed her hands. Given the crime scene photos, and autopsy diagrams, JA would be HEAD TO TOE blood. Where did she shower? Or, more disturbing yet, was she dressed in a hazmat styled jumpsuit? The last phot taken of Mr. Alexander haunts me to my core, I do NOT think he posed for that photo (or any other that day) he looks as though he is under tremendous distress, red eyed, and terrified.

    Thoughts?

  331. Trial watcher
    03/11/2013 at 12:21 am

    just watched the video from last minutes of trial and HOLY SH=T!
    Does Jody look p=====d off or what? If Jody could kill by a look JM(my hero) would be
    as good as gone! Reading it and seeing r 2 VERY different things.!!
    I want to hear the verdict. Enough already!

    • janet
      03/11/2013 at 9:29 am

      @trialwatcher- I told ya!!! I know seeing is believing, but I wasn’t exaggerating when I posted that! Wow!!! I have never seen a look from someone so evil in my life!!!

  332. Trial watcher
    03/11/2013 at 1:13 am

    Did the texts from TA 2 JA ever get introduced and if not WHY I wonder? Maybe JM thought that it didn’t make Travis sound too good do u think?? Personally it goes straight to premed as she had obviously done something to hurt him and whatever the h-ll happened only JA can say…What was it?????? Threats?? Smudge his reputation with her stories.?

  333. 03/11/2013 at 1:27 am

    Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)is the only explanatory psychological mechanism by which Arias’contrary facts,lies,prevarication,memory fog experiences and other assorted problematic behaviour she expresses in court, can be understood – other than the one explanation that seems dominant in the minds of commentators – that of a personality disordered vengeatrix.

    The DID hypothesis however is ruled out by the overwhelming evidence supporting the criteria compliance for a Mixed Personality Disorder.

  334. NancyB
    03/11/2013 at 2:09 am

    Donchais – How lucky for us that you have a wonderful lady that is in court daily! Please thank her for allowing you to share her observations with all of us! Very good news that we can look forward to JM presenting many upcoming Perry Mason moments! Music to our collective ears. Exciting to hear her inside scoop about who she would select as jurors and I love the nicknames! Very glad that she will share with Travis’ family all of our prayers and support.

  335. Bethany
    03/11/2013 at 2:17 am

    MMD :

    Nancy Pennington :
    Husband and I just watched the the parody and laughed although it was “bittersweet”. I also read the email Travis sent to JA. Hope JM points out that Travis must have had a reason to say those things (although JA will never tell the truth about what she did that Travis was referring to). Thanks to those that posted where to view those. Sorry but I “don’t remember” who you are. Must be in that damn fog again.

    If you are referring to the TwitLonger, Donchais originally gave us the link to read MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information. Then she created a monster because I found her twitter feed and posted all kinds of goodies. It’s all courtesy of Chris Stark. Mind you, I truly need a 10 year old to figure out the site.
    Anyway, they are convinced that Travis was NOT expecting JA that night and gave a timeline and that Matt McCartney helped her cover-up things. I also found in a photo bucket the actual photos, uncensored, of TA and JA on the day of the murder (well all of the photos) The photos of JA are truly crude and I wish I could unsee them,
    Anyway, someone has blown up the last picture of TA alive to see the reflection and say that you can see JA holding the camera as well as the knife. I don’t see it but maybe someone else can. Here’s the link https://twitter.com/tracienjames/status/309837414610903041/photo/1
    I tried the link so it should work. There is a treasure trove of info over there, but you have to be 10 years old to figure it out. That’s where I also found the Priceline ticket JA bought two items from the gas purchase on the bank statement. It doesn’t show the date though.

    I tried looking also, and it just looks like a really blurry picture to me. I can barely make out his eye. However, once again, thank you for sharing these various interesting links.

  336. NancyB
    03/11/2013 at 2:29 am

    MMD – Thanks for posting this link!

    Check out this. I found it courtesy of Chris Stark:

    #JodiArias Travis was NOT expecting Jodi June 4 at 4am here is my proof:

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8sv5p

    I still don’t know what to think. How about you?

    I also read that JM is going to stay away from the stalking and focus more on the premeditation aspect. (same source)

    This makes sense since there is no definitive proof of her stalking. I’m still hopeful that JM may introduce in rebuttal her packed car and plan to flee that was thwarted by her arrest. And that she had packed 2 knives, a hidden 9mm gun and a box of ammunition.

    I had not seen this picture before, so I am posting it in case others haven’t seen it.

    surprised expression not a pose

    http://s1309.beta.photobucket.com/user/wasthinking/media/5-27_zps4360d9e4.png.html

  337. NancyB
    03/11/2013 at 2:46 am

    Marilyn N :
    Regarding the texts that Travis sent Jodi, (#372 & posted by Chris Stark) are they or have they been
    put into evidence? I sure hope so!!

    Hi Marilyn – I think the defense put them into evidence along with the texts that Travis sent her that had sexual content. Nurmi put his very own sleezy spin on it to again emphasize Travis’ sexual deviance. If I am wrong about this, pls someone correct me!

  338. Bethany
    03/11/2013 at 2:47 am

    Chrissie A :

    Bethany :
    Chrissie A: Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:
    I agree that there is nothing funny about the murder of Travis. However, I feel that we need a little comic relief from this crazy trial of watching Crazy Jodi AriAss. Thanks for providing a little bit of comic relief I needed it.

    Good to hear that, I was a bit hesitant to post it, as I in no way want to diminish the atrocity that took place.I do wish they’d have put the big herp on her lip though

    LOL, I agree it would have been more accurate! :)

  339. NancyB
    03/11/2013 at 3:15 am

    Observer,
    You asked: “Did Dr. Horn testify in court that Travis’ feet were stomped on or pounded with a bat? I didn’t hear that.” No Dr. Horn did not testify to that in court. I found it in Chris Stark’s twitter feed.

    @Taylorr_L jodi in her rage jumped up n down on his ankle/ was still alive m.e. said
    View conversation
    • Mar 7 chris stark ‏@stark3923

    @franticee m.e. thinks stomped on
    chris stark ‏@stark3923
    #JodiArias Med Ex SAID these look like something hitting him B4death /Left heel – tearing of skin/B4death- bleeding. pic.twitter.com/lEicVUfZ8U

    @Taylorr_L jodi in her rage jumped up n down on his ankle/ was still alive m.e. said
    View conversation
    • Mar 7 chris stark ‏@stark3923

    @franticee m.e. thinks stomped on
    chris stark ‏@stark3923

    Fran A Day ‏@franticee
    @stark3923 Makes sense. That is just pure rage.

    So then I went to the website that she got the autopsy photos from called MyDeathSpace.com. I hunted around there and I found the UNredacted Autopsy Report which includes a lot more gruesome facts of JA’s cruelty and the murder. The redacted autopsy report is used in court and disseminated to the public.

    Chris Stark had a link to the autopsy photos. The one of his slit throat alone is grounds for the death penalty in my opinion. I’m posting the link BUT be warned that they are horrific so don’t open link if you have a weak stomach. The slit throat is the the 4th photo in the 1st row.

    Now I can see why the court room was in an uproar when JM put this photo up when Lisa Daidone was testifying. Every chance that JM has to show the heinous and heartless attack, that needs to continually be put in the jury’s mind, especially as the defense continues to rip him to shreds in the grave.

    http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/user/arizonavjodiarias/library/Body

  340. Trial watcher
    03/11/2013 at 3:25 am

    In all of 30 seconds I found a site fuelmyroute.com and I wonder why Jody couldn’t find the cheapo gas stations on her road trip.All those full gas cans to save a few francs.What’s up
    with that?
    The Perry Mason ref. has me very excited for this coming week!! Will the rat be cornered and slain once and for all?
    OOH what a delicious thought!!!! I just want to see her reaction(u know those feelings she gets) when the final moment arrives! ONE look is all we want from her! PAIN ? DEFEAT?
    Any takers now?

  341. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 8:04 am

    Chrissie A :

    janetlynn :
    Chrissie A – HAHAHAHA. Did you see Beth Karas correct her on that? She had to get it in there. JA will correct herself since they watch HLN. I so want to hear her use the word again, I’ll crack up.
    Anderson 360 was about the Trial. Anyone watch?

    I didn’t see Beth but de-edify has been all over Twitter, no doubt there will be some more gems – as in her pronunciation of Greenwich as Greenwitch, (another example of her jailhouse textbook education) by the by are you by chance a fellow Brit living over here? I noticed you spelled humor as humour which is the usually the English way

    It’s also the Canadian way as well. The Queen’s English and all. My spell check always picks up on flavour, neighbour, gobsmack,etc. and at first I used to look at it and wonder what was wrong until I realized that it was set to U.S. English.

  342. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 8:31 am

    Chrissie A :

    Marilyn N :
    72 hours and 24 minutes!!!

    Lol – A few minutes of Juan grilling her at the end of last week may tide you over for a bit:

    Thanks Chrissie! That reminded me of the royal pain in the ass that JA is and the genius of JM! Wurmi can hold his own as well with his objections. That growth on lip seemed to have gotten larger as well.

    I hadn’t watched her eyes as closely with the jurors before when they were leaving. She gives each and every one a look as I think she tries to make eye contact.

    I would love, love, love to know what that court reporter is thinking!!!!!! I believe that he has been assigned to Judge Stephens courtroom for the past nine years and over his long career has heard pretty much everything but I bet JA is the worst, I often wonder if he is waiting for the complete take down by JM like we are.

  343. Rache
    03/11/2013 at 9:06 am

    NancyB :
    Observer,
    You asked: “Did Dr. Horn testify in court that Travis’ feet were stomped on or pounded with a bat? I didn’t hear that.” No Dr. Horn did not testify to that in court. I found it in Chris Stark’s twitter feed.
    @Taylorr_L jodi in her rage jumped up n down on his ankle/ was still alive m.e. said
    View conversation
    • Mar 7 chris stark ‏@stark3923
    @franticee m.e. thinks stomped on
    chris stark ‏@stark3923
    #JodiArias Med Ex SAID these look like something hitting him B4death /Left heel – tearing of skin/B4death- bleeding. pic.twitter.com/lEicVUfZ8U
    @Taylorr_L jodi in her rage jumped up n down on his ankle/ was still alive m.e. said
    View conversation
    • Mar 7 chris stark ‏@stark3923
    @franticee m.e. thinks stomped on
    chris stark ‏@stark3923
    Fran A Day ‏@franticee
    @stark3923 Makes sense. That is just pure rage.
    So then I went to the website that she got the autopsy photos from called MyDeathSpace.com. I hunted around there and I found the UNredacted Autopsy Report which includes a lot more gruesome facts of JA’s cruelty and the murder. The redacted autopsy report is used in court and disseminated to the public.
    Chris Stark had a link to the autopsy photos. The one of his slit throat alone is grounds for the death penalty in my opinion. I’m posting the link BUT be warned that they are horrific so don’t open link if you have a weak stomach. The slit throat is the the 4th photo in the 1st row.
    Now I can see why the court room was in an uproar when JM put this photo up when Lisa Daidone was testifying. Every chance that JM has to show the heinous and heartless attack, that needs to continually be put in the jury’s mind, especially as the defense continues to rip him to shreds in the grave.
    http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/user/arizonavjodiarias/library/Body

    NancyB, I actually gasped out loud when I saw photo no. 4. I cannot imagine the jury believing self-defense if they see these photos. The one of his back is also very disturbing. This man suffered a horrible death.

  344. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 9:25 am

    MMD :

    Chrissie A :

    Marilyn N :
    72 hours and 24 minutes!!!

    Lol – A few minutes of Juan grilling her at the end of last week may tide you over for a bit:
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s28xtQf9m24?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent&w=595&h=365%5D

    Thanks Chrissie! That reminded me of the royal pain in the ass that JA is and the genius of JM! Wurmi can hold his own as well with his objections. That growth on her lip seemed to have gotten larger as well.

    ****correction****I meant that Wurmi can hold his own with his objections – as far as beiing a pain in the ass. NO WAY was I putting him in the genius category of JM!!!!!!!!!

  345. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 9:38 am

    NancyB :
    So then I went to the website that she got the autopsy photos from called MyDeathSpace.com. I hunted around there and I found the UNredacted Autopsy Report which includes a lot more gruesome facts of JA’s cruelty and the murder. The redacted autopsy report is used in court and disseminated to the public.
    Chris Stark had a link to the autopsy photos. The one of his slit throat alone is grounds for the death penalty in my opinion. I’m posting the link BUT be warned that they are horrific so don’t open link if you have a weak stomach. The slit throat is the the 4th photo in the 1st row.
    Now I can see why the court room was in an uproar when JM put this photo up when Lisa Daidone was testifying. Every chance that JM has to show the heinous and heartless attack, that needs to continually be put in the jury’s mind, especially as the defense continues to rip him to shreds in the grave.
    http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/user/arizonavjodiarias/library/Body

    I looked at those last week and totally agree with you. He truly was butchered. I think that the ones that got to me the most were the closeup of his entire head while still in the shower and the ones that show the skin shedding on the ends of his fingers along with the black fingernails. Even the immense bloating from gases in his stomach in the shower bothered me. The truly convincing photo for me was of the absolutely butchered body in the spotless shower! Not only did it show the horror but the preplanning that went into this savage murder!!!

  346. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 9:56 am

    Chrissie A :
    Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:

    Thanks Chrissie. I think that with the horrific topics that we have been dealing with for the past 2 1/2 months that humour is the best way of coping for all of us. So many of us are having sleeping and other issues that this helps to calm me at least.

    I have been alternating daily the video of the chicken dance with the memorial video to keep reminding myself that this is not the JA psycho show and now I’ve added this to the rotation.

  347. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 10:15 am

    donchais :
    Yup, on her broom!

    Have been rereading all the comments…………………..nah, I’m not obsessed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and this is the best one on the entire page.:-)

    Literally the tears were running down my cheeks I laughed so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks donchais! Speaking of funny I wonder where kristin has been? She must have a life!:-)

  348. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 10:55 am

    Trial watcher :
    In all of 30 seconds I found a site fuelmyroute.com and I wonder why Jody couldn’t find the cheapo gas stations on her road trip.All those full gas cans to save a few francs.What’s up
    with that?
    The Perry Mason ref. has me very excited for this coming week!! Will the rat be cornered and slain once and for all?
    OOH what a delicious thought!!!! I just want to see her reaction(u know those feelings she gets) when the final moment arrives! ONE look is all we want from her! PAIN ? DEFEAT?
    Any takers now?

    As donchais would say “sucker bet”! :-)

    • janet
      03/11/2013 at 11:31 am

      Oooh yeah!!! Would LOVE to see her reaction!!! GUILTY IN 1ST. DEGREE, PREMEDITATION!! DP awaits!!!!

  349. Nancy Pennington
    03/11/2013 at 11:16 am

    I was rereading some of the posts (to tide me over until Wed) and saw a mention of the name Bryan Carr. I don’t think I know who that is. Can someone help me out here?

    • donchais
      03/11/2013 at 11:30 am

      Nancy Bryan Carr visits and supports Arias supposedly because his sister was a victim of abuse and violence…read that as he’s just grabbing his 15 minutes of fame…been making the rounds on TV.

  350. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 11:26 am

    NancyB :
    MMD – Thanks for posting this link!
    Check out this. I found it courtesy of Chris Stark:
    #JodiArias Travis was NOT expecting Jodi June 4 at 4am here is my proof:
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8sv5p
    I still don’t know what to think. How about you?
    I also read that JM is going to stay away from the stalking and focus more on the premeditation aspect. (same source)
    This makes sense since there is no definitive proof of her stalking. I’m still hopeful that JM may introduce in rebuttal her packed car and plan to flee that was thwarted by her arrest. And that she had packed 2 knives, a hidden 9mm gun and a box of ammunition.
    I had not seen this picture before, so I am posting it in case others haven’t seen it.
    surprised expression not a pose
    http://s1309.beta.photobucket.com/user/wasthinking/media/5-27_zps4360d9e4.png.html

    Did you watch the time lapse video of the photos/murder with the comments? It seemed like forever to me but it was over so quickly. As is pointed out on the of the photos,”snot running down from a man’s nose is not a sexy pose”.

    http://s1309.beta.photobucket.com/user/wasthinking/media/TravisAlexander_zpsad4bd0f7.mp4.html

    As for the stalking, it is my understanding that JM is staying away from the stalking issues because of pretrial motions and does not want to provide grounds for appeal.

  351. Janet
    03/11/2013 at 11:43 am

    Nancy Pennington :I was rereading some of the posts (to tide me over until Wed) and saw a mention of the name Bryan Carr. I don’t think I know who that is. Can someone help me out here?

    I wish I could tell you who he is..All I know is, I think he is a fan, and she has him wrapped around her finger believing her!!! What a fool!

    • Nancy Pennington
      03/11/2013 at 11:59 am

      Thanks you guys. After coming out of the fog I remember now. InSession showed him entering the court but I’d forgotten his name (as I tend to do with idiots!)

  352. donchais
    03/11/2013 at 12:12 pm

    From the wonderful lady who goes to court each day (she has become an honorary member of Travis’s family and sits behind them everyday)…her description of the jurors:

    1.Church Lady- Mid 50’s, short hair, no make-up, glasses.
    This lady looks absolutely disgusted the whole time. I never once saw her look in the direction of JA. Not ONCE. She either stares straight forward or looks at JM.

    2.Trump-Guy in 40’s, lots of hair, car salesman look.
    I called this guy “Comb Over” he had his head resting on his hand almost the whole time. He also never looks at JA. He seemed to be paying attention, but also seemed bored.

    3.Housewife-She is a big lady (tall and heavy set, not obese) with a very sweet face, no make-up.
    Interesting different view today. I called her the “Angry Neighbor Lady” Lol. I wrote that she follows along, but has a constant “sour puss”. I don’t know if it’s just “her look” or what, but she seemed to be frowning every time I looked at her.

    4.Grandpa-Bald, sweet faced older man that looks like my grandpa.
    He does have a sweet face and seems the “calm” type.

    5.Tricolor-Early 30’s, short, stylish haircut with three colors, reminds me of one of my hairstylists.
    She probably gave more facial expressions than any of the others. She is very engaged and took a fair amount of notes.

    6.Nancy-Lady in her 50’s, lovely face, reminds me of Nancy Reagan with glasses, short. She was the only one I saw look at Jodi when the jury first walked in. She took a lot of notes.

    7.Paul Rudd-Younger guy, mid-late 20’s with spiky hair, sweat jacket, looks like the actor Paul Rudd.

    8.The CEO-Good looking man, mid 50’s with goatee. Can see him being the jury foreman.

    9.Willy-Old hippy with long white ponytail, thin, small build.
    This guy looked PIZZED the whole time. He seemed to be staring towards the media lady or just into the corner. I only saw him look at JM or JA maybe once.

    10.Barb-Female, 40’s, has the “sexy librarian” look, wearing a form fitting sweater, slender build and voluptuous. I could tell she was taking notes quite a bit.

    11.Poquito-Little Mexican guy (maybe 5’3) with long graduated pony tail, lots of facial hair and piercings.

    12.Neil-Early 50’s high forehead, glasses, looks very nervous and turns red easily.

    13.The Wrestler-Younger good looking guy, large build.

    14.Old potsmoking CPA
    He swiveled in his chair a lot and fell asleep at least twice. He was also slouched down in his chair.

    15.Elderly Man-This man is definitely the oldest juror, he occasionally uses the headphones to listen to the proceedings that Jodie’s Auntie uses.

    16.Maureen-Red haired, glasses (the red might be too red to be a natural ginger) If I had to guess one Mormon on the jury, it would be her.
    She took a lot of notes and had a “polished” look to her. She had her whole body turned facing Jodi. I barely saw her look at JM.

    17.Pony Tail-Young girl, pony tail, plain, pony tail and sweats.
    She took a lot of notes.

    18.The Artist-Bald, attractive, glasses, 50’s-60’s, large build, holds his notebook on a binder as if he’s going to sketch. He looks around the gallery a lot. This guy also had a very intense gaze. He took some notes. He rubbed his face and tapped his fingers to his lips a lot.

    • Nancy Pennington
      03/11/2013 at 12:30 pm

      donchais…please thank the court lady for her descriptions ..very helpful and interesting. Sounds like a real mixed bag. Wouldn’t we all like to be flys on the wall in the deliberation room with them???That is flys with a voice in case we are needed to whisper in an ear or two.LOL

  353. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 12:16 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    Thanks you guys. After coming out of the fog I remember now. InSession showed him entering the court but I’d forgotten his name (as I tend to do with idiots!)

    LOL Nancy. There seems to be a lot of that going around especially when it comes to the testiphony we’ve been listening to ad nauseum!

  354. MMD
    03/11/2013 at 12:17 pm

    donchais :
    From the wonderful lady who goes to court each day (she has become an honorary member of Travis’s family and sits behind them everyday)…her description of the jurors:

    By any chance does she happen to have dark hair and wear glasses?

    • donchais
      03/11/2013 at 12:19 pm

      Blonde

  355. Marilyn N
    03/11/2013 at 12:47 pm

    48 HOURS ………(and decounting haha)!

  356. Marilyn N
    03/11/2013 at 12:59 pm

    Dr. Lillian Glass (body language expert) says she sees that
    Wurmy really does NOT like Jodi.

    We surely can’t say he’s getting thru this trial as quick as possible, though.
    Don’t think he will be racking up new clients from this high profile case. IMO….

  357. Marilyn N
    03/11/2013 at 1:09 pm

    Here is a 48 Hours episode in which Juan Martinez got Bryan Stewart aka Rick Valentini
    convicted. THere was no body, blood, etc. Titled: The Stranger Beside Me.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50137943n

  358. donchais
    03/11/2013 at 4:14 pm

    Heads up all!

    We have over 400 comments here and it’s become unruly for lots of folks. I have made a new space

    Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty – Discussion Continues

    http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/jodi-arias-murder-trial-day-thirty-discussion-continues/#comments

    Let’s see if this helps!

    Will close comments here shortly!

    donchais

  359. Chrissie A
    03/11/2013 at 4:18 pm

    MMD :

    Chrissie A :
    Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUL6P6mQAg?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent&w=595&h=365%5D

    Thanks Chrissie. I think that with the horrific topics that we have been dealing with for the past 2 1/2 months that humour is the best way of coping for all of us. So many of us are having sleeping and other issues that this helps to calm me at least.
    I have been alternating daily the video of the chicken dance with the memorial video to keep reminding myself that this is not the JA psycho show and now I’ve added this to the rotation.

    MMD :

    Chrissie A :
    Nothing funny about the murder of Travis but this video is a hilarious parody of JA and her craziness:
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUL6P6mQAg?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent&w=595&h=365%5D

    Thanks Chrissie. I think that with the horrific topics that we have been dealing with for the past 2 1/2 months that humour is the best way of coping for all of us. So many of us are having sleeping and other issues that this helps to calm me at least.
    I have been alternating daily the video of the chicken dance with the memorial video to keep reminding myself that this is not the JA psycho show and now I’ve added this to the rotation.

    I’ve gotten to the point that I can’t seem to type her name anymore – it humanizes her too much – your video collection sounds like good therapy – if I see more I’ll post them for you
    Here’s another I saw yesterday:

  360. Chrissie A
    03/11/2013 at 4:21 pm

    Saw this on Twitter yesterday – Ha! Even the Enquirer doesn’t want her pyscho bs:

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/true-crime/exclusive-jodi-arias-desperate-escape-plan

  361. mari
    03/12/2013 at 2:22 am

    Mr. Martinez, you are Fantastic, Great Prosecutor and Love watching you in that Court Room. WoW!!! I am sure Travis Alexander’s family is so happy that you are on this Case. So proud of you/!!!!!!! yes

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