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Casey Anthony Circus Car Is Sitting In the Break Down Lane Waiting To Be Towed


Defense waiting for a tow

We were all waiting with bated breath for today’s ‘rock ‘em sock ‘em’ hearing and it was a bit of a bust!

So, as many of you, I spent a good portion of yesterday reading the flurry of motions and these are just a few of my favorite things.  Let me preface this by saying I have no doubt, NO DOUBT, when the Honorable Judge Belvin Perry asks, ‘anything else?’ Baez will surely have something else he wishes to make known to the Court!

Amended Notice Of Hearing

Seriously now, this one just left me gobsmacked! Not sure there will be any discussion on this, but WTH was Bozo doing with that Amended Notice Of Hearing? Who died and left him in charge of setting the hearing schedule? And, was he intimating that JAC could not phone in??? I really loved…PLEASE BE GOVERNED ACCORDINGLY!

Before we continue, the Orlando Sentinel did a great job determining the monies spent so far, How much has Casey Anthony’s defense cost? Not claiming I know it to be totally accurate, it is a must read and shows Baez and Mason’s whining about the State having unlimited funds to torpedo Casey Anthony as the piffle it truly is!

George and Cindy make an appearance!

We begin with Motion for Reconsideration

Baez is yet again claiming the release of Orange County jail records serves no purpose other than to embarrass Casey (oh, heavens!) and the recent Bent ruling from the Fourth District Appeals Court should hold sway.

He also claims this presents a unique opportunity for the court to follow the Appeals Court decision.

Both the County and The Orlando Sentinel make some pretty strong arguments against Baez’s claim.  The strongest being that the Brent decision isn’t even final and we are in uncharted judicial territory here!

Bottom line as Judge Perry states, the Bent decision isn’t even final!

You lose Mr. Baez!

Finnell’s budget:

Motion to Determine Reasonable Budget for Due Process Costs in a Capital Case and Motion to incur certain Specified Costs

Judge Perry reminds the Court we have already had a budget hearing.

Finnell interjects she knows from years of dealing with JAC, they want a budget so that’s what she did for the penalty phase only.

Perry says he already approved dollars and time for Ms. Barrett, mitigation specialist, and he wants to know what has been used to date.  Finnell says maybe a 1/3 to 1/2.

She indicates there are still a number of witnesses that have to be interviewed.  Finnell concedes she will obtain more clarification from Barrett.

We move on to an investigator.  Baez jumps in and says he also needs additional time for an investigator (yup, this is in addition to what Finnell wants) because of all the TES searchers they need to interview and they have burned through their budget.

So this is just becoming a defense grab bag for investigative funds with little to no proof to back up either request!

Perry says taxpayer dollars are not to be used for fishing expeditions!

Baez whines if they had better access to the TES records earlier, they could have avoided a lot of this.  It was difficult because we were monitored and couldn’t openly discuss during the court ordered review and these were the worst kept records he’s seen.

This is where they claim they found another 150 people!

Perry says wait, you led me to believe one thing about viewing the records and now this isn’t the case!

At this point, Baez, Finnell and Mason are all at the podium!

OMG, Baez now says they may be missing TES records.

Perry says you wanted to view the records because you didn’t trust TES to tell you and again, this is not a fishing expedition!

Mason now adds that people are refusing to speak with them or were told not to.

Perry tells them he is not writing an open check!

Finnell interrupts and say that this isn’t what she needs an investigator for, it’s a separate issue.

Perry reminds her he has done several death penalty cases and he needs more substantial information to back her request and he was under the impression the mitigation specialist was doing the investigation per Andrea Lyon.  Did Mr. Baez explain to you that’s what they asked for originally?  Finnell says she wasn’t privy to what went on before.

So, Baez didn’t tell her crap?

Moving on to Psych evaluation.  It was requested that $7.5k be budgeted for pretrial.  Finnell says for pretrial only she can live with $2.5k.


Copying costs. Finnell admits Barrett has already done some of this, but she has new, additional ideas!  The original budget has not been used up yet.

Travel for Finnell. Perry hits her with JAC said because Baez was privately retained, JAC will not pay travel.

Finnell starts in with ABA standards – Perry says he is not bound by ABA standards.  She ends by saying if the court says no to expenses she will remain on the team anyway.

Travel to Ohio by mitigation specialist of investigator. Finnell says it is necessary because that’s where Casey comes from.  Judge Perry wants to know how old she was when in Ohio – turns out from age one through three!  Perry wants to know why they can’t be interviewed by phone.  Finnell said they tried, but some won’t cooperate.  Perry wants to know what makes her think they will cooperate if visited in person.

Finnell said in her 32 years, she has seen it work sometimes and the ABA guidlines say she should do everything she can.  Perry again reminds her he is not bound by ABA standards!  He tells her if she can prove it’s necessary, he may approve.

JAC Assistant General Counsel Bradley Bischoff says JAC will not pay estimates of costs and they will definitely not pay for attorney travel!

Back to copying costs – Perry asks how much is left.  Baez says he has some money left, but doesn’t have the figure with him.  He also argues that his money was for obtaining public records, not copying!  Perry asks that when he gets public records, aren’t copies made for him?  He tells Baez he is just playing ‘word gymnastics’!

Baez continues to whine that Finnell should have her own copying budget so the requested $1k gets knocked down to $500.

The investigator needs much better accounting before being decided, but Finnell is granted 100 hours.

Baez has fumbled and found his records and asks for a sidebar!  Oy vey!

Baez gets an additional 60 hours for now.

Finnell will get no travel or hotel expenses.

Defense Motion for Clarification of  May 12th Order Involving Expenses

Baez asks the Judge to clarify the amount experts can charge for meals, hotel, etc. because it was not laid out.

JAC agrees it is not laid out, but the 9th Circuit rates will be used.

Perry apologizes and said he will issue the guidelines by Wednesday at the latest.

JAC is done and excused.

The release of Linda Kenney Baden is approved.

Linda Drane Burdick memorializes the problems with the defense not providing proper information on a timely basis.  She was provided witnesses with no addresses and cannot locate them.

Baez admits there is a witness from Norther California who has since moved and they haven’t found him yet.

The State’s request to extend depositions for another 30 days is met with no objection.

Judge Perry reminds Finnell that mitigation witnesses must be laid out by the end of November.  Finnell kind of balks and Perry says the mitigation expert has been working all along!

Again, I don’t think Finnell was told very much by Baez!  How long do you think Finnell will be around?

Perry asks if the defense depositions of the State’s experts are complete. Jeff Ashton says two are still scheduled. The Body Farm depos are complete.

Perry asks if there will be motions on Frye and Mason says he can’t file till he has copies of the depositions. The court is informed Baez has them on CD’s, Mason wants paper copies (insert eyeroll here).  Judge Perry offers to have the transcribed at a minimal court and Baez is quick to accept!

Jeff Ashton tell the court he hasn’t received the defense list yet and that is needed for any Frye hearing.

Things get testy between the State and defense.  Burdick complains that the defense isn’t cooperating on several issues or providing information by the deadlines already established.

Baez whines that is unfair and they are working diligently and they are having problems scheduling things with the State and he doesn’t appreciate the mudslinging by the State.

Linda was pretty reserved in my opinion!

Perry ends by saying they will meet the deadlines or he will schedule them and nobody will be happy about the schedule he lays out!  He also indicated he was not happy with the exchange in the last ten minutes.

He reminds them if he has to, he will take things into his own hands – just get ‘er done!

So, nothing on Amy H’s deposition and nothing on Jeremy Lyons and witness tampering!

To be continued at another date I guess!

  1. Venice
    10/29/2010 at 5:21 pm

    Awww….the smell of sweet justice. Any seasoned attorney would have negated a plea deal.

  2. Ritanita
    10/29/2010 at 5:21 pm

    Good job, Donchais! Short, sweet and to the point! My head is STILL spinning and the idea of outlining this hearing is very daunting. I’m going to be my usual Ms. Scarlett… tomorrow!

    Obviously, Baez and Mason threw Finnell into the case with no clue as to funds available to her from the original JAC hearing in May. She caught on very fast! I hope she stays around and gives “Casey’s boys” a piece of her mind and whips them into shape!

  3. nums24
    10/29/2010 at 5:22 pm

    Great synopsis! I am shocked that Amy H. and the Grunds depos were not brought up though.

  4. donchais
    10/29/2010 at 5:51 pm

    Thanks for the comments folks, they are always appreciated!

    In some ways this hearing was disappointing based on what I anticipated, The Grunds I understood because Jesse had a job out of town, but I was surprised that Judge Perry didn’t go further into the actual ‘status’ of where we were. Heck, he knows better than I and it may just be letting the defense dig a deeper hole with Amy, etc.

    I hope Finnell took the ‘boys’ out back and beat them severely for making her look the fool.

    I may have been out of sorts, but it seemed we jumped all over the place today and capturing the hearing was difficult to say the least! I hurt from my hair down to my toes, lol!

  5. merker
    10/29/2010 at 6:26 pm

    TY most wonderful and helpful:)

  6. offthecuff
    10/29/2010 at 9:24 pm

    Conway? Was he there? I didn’t see him. Hey, I musta missed him. Conway? Conwaaaay?? Where was he? Did anyone else see him? Where did he go? Didn’t he say he’d be there to support the Anthonys?? Hello? Conway?

  7. FRG
    10/29/2010 at 10:37 pm


    “Linda was pretty reserved in my opinion”
    LOL! That made my day, donchais! I would have chosen different words to JB and CM, wouldn’t you? It wouldn’t be pretty though! Good Lord!

    It’s not only Ritanita that has her head spinning, my head is too!

    Finnel kept talking over JP, that was really annoying! I can picture her in trial, will she be likable? Well, there is a huge line for annoying lawyers defending KC. Get in line Finnel!!! LOL!

    I am upset with the “fishing expedition”, don’t you guys think this will cost us taxpayers a lot of more money? Reason with me… It has been almost two years since Caylee’s remains were found and none of TES searchers came forward, why would make anything to change now? It makse no sense to me. Many people went to Suburban Dr., why don’t they get JW to testify for them (rolling my eyes here)? This is just getting old! Leave the TES searches alone! I am really mad with the whole situation. Now, CM wants to call the other 3,000 searchers so their PI will harass them? That’s an absurd! I am so sick of it.

    Thank you so much for the article!

    10/29/2010 at 11:23 pm

    Looks like Joy whatsherface was playing Conway today. (Insert eye roll here). Loved the additional sunglasses in the courtroom look, she’s a star doncha know. lol
    Thanks for the recap. Appreciated and enjoyed.

    Isn’t it amazing how the anthony women get uglier and uglier with each passing hearing? Maybe their inner- demons are showing? It does look like casey’s horns are pushing to get out. hmmmmmmm

  9. donchais
    10/30/2010 at 7:42 am

    Getagrip – Glad you enjoyed!

    FRG – Yes, Finnell did speak over the Judge a lot! However, I think she was fighting for her life. She was obviously sandbagged by Baez and not given the full story as to what has happened in the case so far. Baez and Mason jumping up and interrupting her Motion, whining about ‘their’ investigative needs was not only rude, but threw her presentation off.

    I think we saw some new dynamics also. Perry was more politely aggressive and nailed all the mistruths the defense had told while he continued avoiding appellate issues and Linda got her chance to really show the defense as uncooperative and lazy!

    Mason and Baez know the gravy train has left the station and the only hope they have is the ‘fishing expedition’ and that boat is sinking!

  10. FRG
    10/30/2010 at 8:03 am


    True, it was Finnel’s Motion and for some reason it jumped from her Motion to their Motion… what??? Now I see what you are are talking about, thank you!!! Is that the way JB has worked to get people to join the “dream is over team”??? Sounds more like it.

    You are also right about the hearing dynamics… JP was sharp yesterday although I know he wishes he could have started this case, no offense to JS!!!! We saw JP lecturing and we know it was addressed to that moron JB!!! CM seems not so interested in the case, he seems not so involved, that’s the impression I always get about him… he likes the attention but I don’t see he is completely committed to this case, do you? Maybe CM is just there because JB can’t be the first seat. The question is, will CM stay until the end? It’s a maybe for me.

    Do you know if JW went to the hearing with the Anthony’s? Was JW replacing BC??? LOL

  11. donchais
    10/30/2010 at 9:30 am

    FRG – Mason is at the end of his career and this case will forever stain his reputation, but what would be worse? Sticking it out and having a major loss (not the only one!) on his record or being remembered for abandoning a ship as it was sinking? Either way, he will be disgraced.

    I would be more concerned with Finnell. In my opinion, she had a rude awakening yesterday and don’t forget, it was her old buddy Mason who dragged her into this.

    As for JW – no comment!

  12. Barb2
    10/30/2010 at 10:55 am

    Great article above and great posts. I was disappointed that the subject of depos of Amy H., the Grunds and Kronk’s son didn’t come up. I am looking forward to the Judge setting dates in this matter, it won’t be pretty.

  13. Barb2
    10/30/2010 at 10:56 am

    * that should read “dates and times in this matter”.

  14. Ritanita
    10/30/2010 at 11:30 am

    Fresh head here and getting in gear to write. I agree Finnell was totally sandbagged by the defense. I can’t believe that Baez and Mason didn’t tell her the details of the original JAC hearing.

    As a DP qualified attorney with many years of experience, she knows the ropes here, just not the rules of engagement for this particular war. She certainly doesn’t have the luxury of time to follow a case like this.

    However, I’m sure her eyes were opened by her experience yesterday. Once she knew the financial situation and learned the defense already had the hours for out-of-state PI’s to cover her Ohio needs, she immediately re-figured her needs and got what she needed for now.

    In addition, she doesn’t know Judge Perry and how he operates. Her motion put forth the complete budget (minus what she knew about Jeanene Barrett) for the entire trial. Judge Perry prefers to dole out the money for preparation and let the trial expenses be what they have to be.

    She is on the learning curve and learning fast, unlike her co-counsel. You can bet that when she next appears before Judge Perry or requests more money, HER records will be in order and she will be able to tell how every hour was spent and how much more she anticipates needing.

  15. donchais
    10/30/2010 at 12:20 pm

    Barb2 – Thanks for stopping in! I have to wonder whether the defense even cares about deposing the Grunds, Amy or Brandon at this point. Hard as it is to fathom, they may have figured out that there is no chance of throwing them under the bus!

    Ritanita – Can’t wait for your article! I’ve no doubt you will provide all the details I didn’t hit! 🙂

  16. carol
    10/30/2010 at 11:50 pm

    Casey thinks that she is a big shot. Writing notes But let me tell you that she is nothing but a big fat leir. No mother would wait 31 days to report there daughter missing.And casey only feels sorry for herself not Caylee.She wanted Caylee out of
    her sight so she can go out and party. And I think that all the evidence they got againts Casey should be used. She should of thought of this before she killed her daughter. She was hoping that some kind of annimal would of go to the bones before they would fine her. That’s why she waited 31 days before she would say she’s missing. The other judge that they had let this case get out of hand. And would let them talk back and forth and everything was funny with them. And she Casey thnk that this is a big joke. But now that Judge Perry is running it she doesen’t like it because she can’t get away with everything. And why didn’t she Cry when she new her daughter was missing in the first place. Not now.She is only worryed
    about herself because she can’t go out and party any more. She caused this mess by herself and I don’t feel sorry for her ne bit.So I hope the judge will have a littl justice for Caylee Not the murder one that is the killer. So I hop they hang her but good. Because she deserves it.

  17. donchais
    10/31/2010 at 7:41 am

    carol – your pivotal statement, ‘she should have thought’, well, she obviously didn’t!

  18. 10/31/2010 at 2:29 pm

    Good post Donchais. I think Baez got the drift this third time with the same motion. Or at least I hope he did! Good greif, will this case ever come to an end? By the way, this is the real Carol, I don’t want to be mistaken. Thanks.

  19. offthecuff
    10/31/2010 at 6:54 pm

    Carol, you lay the case out clearly, but the defense is busy with muddling, twisting, and rationalizing so that Casey is either innocent or just a poor victim herself.

  20. north country girl
    11/03/2010 at 10:39 am

    The Anthony circus car has been abandoned at Amscot because of the stench!

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