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Casey Anthony – Just Make It Stop Already

August 2005 ~ June 2008

After two weeks of damning videos and testimony Casey Anthony has been shown to be a lying, self-centered, cruel manipulator.  As the evidence mounts and the defense flounders, I have to wonder what the jury is thinking as week three begins. 

The countless sidebars, normally over miss-steps by Jose Baez have surely left some kind of impression on the jury!  And, the defense’s badgering, insulting, and bullying of witnesses can’t have scored any points!

Not that I give a rats butt, I wonder what Casey thinks of her  man-crushes, Mason and Baez, now.

Baez begins with renewing objections regarding Dr. Vass.  They depo’d Vass Friday evening.  The database is in Microsoft and Vass is using his experience and research and hasn’t utilized the database in some time and therefore the defense says they haven’t had the opportunity to fully questioning him.

Dr. Arpad Vass is called. He has been at Oak Ridge National Laboratories and a very hefty CV.

He goes into the biochemical parameters of decomposition and says when begun in 1972, it was a relatively new science. 1100 donated bodies have been studied.  Some bodies are buried, some left on the surface.

They look at the chemical breakdown during decomposition and analyze the fluids in the bodies and on fabrics.

Baez jumps up and objects to Vass’ narrative saying he isn’t a biologist!


Now Baez jumps up and objects to the narrative because Vass isn’t a chemist.

Judge Perry says overruled in a very stern tone.

Jeff Ashton is getting pissed with the interruptions!

Baez objects the 3rd time!!!

What a mo mo!

Dr. Vass is so likable and down-to-earth, the jury has to be fascinated.

Baez objects for the 4th time.  Overruled.

Heck, it’s only 9:22!!!

Temperature, water presence, pH, presence of oxygen are the 4 major events that affect the rate or completeness of decomposition.

Would extreme heat conditions speed the process?  Certainly.

Fat and muscle breaks down into volatile fatty acids.  That study was published.

Vass earned his PhD from the University of Tennessee. in 1991 after this study was completed.  In 1992 he started with Oak Ridge.

Baez objects to Vass’ explanation of what Oak Ridge does.!  Overruled!

Vass has been involved in numerous multidisciplinary projects.

Baez objects again!  Overruled.

He began work in finding clandestine graves. They worked with cadaver dogs with bodies buried at various depths with a piping system and monitored the chemicals being produced.

Over the 20 years at Oak Ridge they have followed over 50 individuals from fresh to fully decomposed.

The odor of decomp is definitely unique!  There are articles of the chemicals noted in decomp.

Vass has worked with pigs at the lab, the animal of choice.  Deer, dogs and cats – roadkill – have been studied.

Vass states human composition is very different from animal remains.

Baez objects, speculation.  Overruled.

Jeanine Barrett is here for a second day trying to get a read on the jury!

Vass notes that barometric pressures push chemicals down into the ground.  So environment plays a big role…

Objection, narrative not relevant!  Judge Perry is pissed and calls a bench conference!

Wonder if Baez is trying for another mini-Frye!

Instead of waiting to cross, Baez is just being disruptive!

Both Baez and Mason are at the sidebar so I guess Dottie is just a Casey-minder now!

Ashton asks the court reporter to remind them of where they were!

Ashton submits Vass to the court as an expert witness. 

Baez objects.  Overruled.

In 2008 Vass was contacted by Yuri Melich and he sent certain items to Dr. Vass.  The first of which was a metal can which Vass identifies for the court.

Baez of course has to get in Ashton’s face as he opens the box containing the can.  Ashton asks for it to be entered for identification.

Baez objects.  Perry calls a sidebar.

When asked why this trial is taking so long, answer loud and clear…BAEZ!

Ashton asks that it be received into evidence, received.

A bag with air was received and examined by Dr. Wise.

Baez objects!

Vass  says he sent an air pump and traps to collect air from the trunk and bay to OCSO, same kind of device he used in his studies.

Vass identifies the tubes returned to him by OCSO.  Moved into evidence.

Yeah, a ‘special’ recess!

Vass was assisted by Dr. Wise’s and his laboratory in analyzing the odor.

Vass describe how the test was conducted.

Baez objects!  Overruled.

They did not use cryotraps…

Baez objection!  Overruled.

The head space in the can….

Objection, out of this witness’ scope and expertise and we want a sidebar.

Oh, Lisbeth Fryer escorted Baez to sidebar.  Dottie must have done something very bad, indeed!

Baez wants testimony striken.  No!

The findings showed a large peak of chloroform which occurs in human decomp.  The chloroform was shockingly high, unusually high.

Baez objects to witness testifying to areas not in his expertise.  Overruled.

We removed the carpet from the metal can because…

Object.  Overruled.

The carpet was placed in a Tevlar bag to incubate it for 2 days at body temperature.  It was done to get the substance released from the carpet into the air.  The air sample from that bag was analyzed and showed  51 individual chemical components, one of which was chloroform.  The largest peak was chloroform.  The amount of chloroform shocked them because they had never seen a peak that large.

Baez objection…outside of expertise.  Overruled.

Chloroform appeared in the trunk at some time….

Objection.  Overruled.

They ran another test on a control piece of carpet to see if that contained the same levels of chloroform.

The test results from both carpet pieces are entered and published to the jury.

Baez objects.  Overruled.

Don’t forget, there are several folks on the jury with medical backgrounds!

Chloroform is found in many samples, but in small amounts or trace amounts.

Objection.  Overruled.

Vass describes LBS testing…

Objection, Vass is not a physicist.  Overruled.

He begins to tell how LBS works…

Objection.  Overruled.

Crap, Baez wants to voir dire Vass, just kill me!

Your not a physicist?  Correct.

Dr. Martin ran that test?  Yes.

You don’t know the methodology?  The test methodology is well established.

I am certified in lasers.

You were not present?  No, but…

Ashton objects.  Jury sent out.

Judge Perry – Mr. Baez, I was under the impression you wanted to attack some sort of methodology.  Expert witnesses are allowed to take another’s report into consideration to form their opinions.

Your not a physicist?  No.

You can’t assign a specific weight to these elements?  I know which elements are connected to decomposition.

Baez is being an asshat and acting like he is a scientific expert!

The only comparison you can make is the two samples you used?  You don’t seem to understand what is going on here.

Jury brought back in.

The LBS results are published to the jury.  The element levels in the car trunk were consistently  higher than the control sample.

Butyric acid was found in the carpet when they did some chemical testing.  Butyric is the first volatile fatty acid released in a decomposing body

When you opened the can, what was your reaction?  I jumped back about 2 feet.  I was shocked at the amount of odor coming out of the itty- bitty can.

Did you recognize the odor?  Yes it was decomposition.

Because you have smelled it before.  Yes, in my 20 years.

Scrapings from the wheel well is entered into evidence.

Baez renews their objections.

It contained an acid that is consistent with chloroform or making of chloroform.

Items, like the paper towel sent by Dr. Haskell are introduced for evidence.

Baez renews objection and has added chain of custody as an issue.

Side freakin bar!

Were these items fully sealed in the box when you received it?  Oh, yes.

Baez objects and wants to see the box because he may have yet another objection.  Renews objection with nothing additional.

Conditionally received into evidence at this time.

Lunch is mercifully called!

I must apologize because I admit, as likable as Dr. Vass is, I’m only capturing about a tenth of what is going on because much of this goes over my pin-head!

Dr. Vass retakes the stand.

The items from Dr. Haskell, the paper towels showed amounts of fatty acids or grave wax, adipocere!

The garage bay air and trash air showed chemicals but not what was in compared the carpet sample.

A rose, trash, cooking odors may share certain chemical element, but each has its own, distinct odor signature.

They tested old pizza, decomposing squirrel elements.

The scraping from the tire well.  The acetic acid is a product of decomp, but not one of the major compounds.

Dr. Vass’ opinion is that a decomposing was in the trunk of the car based on the testing the conducted!

Jeff has pretty well, established that Caylee’s body was carried around in the trunk while it was decomposing.

Lord, Baez on cross.

You are not a chemist, not an analytic chemist or a biochemist?  Correct.

Your CV says biology, and criminal justice, and your PhD is in?  Anthropology.

Dr Martin is a physicist?  Yes.

Mark Wise is an analytic chemist?  Yes.

You would refer to Dr. Vass on anything to do with chemistry?  I am. Dr. Vass!!!!

When was the last chemistry course you took.  1980’s>

Have you posted a FaceBook account saying you are a biochemist?  No.

Wikipedia?  No.

Objection, relevance.  Sustained.

You have a financial interest in this?  No in my opinion.

The database was created when you published your 2004 study?  Yes.

You found 478 elements?  Yes.

You have not given the database to the defense, have you sir?

Sidebar called by Ashton.

You refused to turn over the database to us to verify?  It’s not mine to turn over.

You aware we were given the list of chemicals, not the database.  I thought you were given the database.

You need funding grants to continue your research?  Yes.

You invented the Labrador?  I’m listed as one of them.

A hand-held device?  Correct.

You plan to sell this to police departs all over the country?  It was a project that we developed the machine for.  It’s up to the lab to file a patent.

The goal is to sell these around the country?  It’s not my goal to sell anything!

Ashton is objecting with every question and its sustained.

You get royalties?  I’m not sure how it works, but it’s insignificant.

You get 15% of royalties?  Split among all the inventors.

The work you did on this case was billed out to Labrador?  No, this is voluntary!

You have since filed several patents?


Another trek to the sidebar!

Objection sustained.

In your report in this case, did you disclosed you had a financial interest?  No.

A research lab doesn’t have protocols?  Research labs develop the protocols.

What you did in this case isn’t protocol?  Your asking about procedures which we did follow.

Is there a contamination control?  The instruments or the samples?

Either?  Dr. Wise’s notes lay out the standards and calibrations.

Baez isn’t getting anywhere here because Dr. Vass has deftly answered all questions.

It was reported to the media that you had found human decomp in the car…It was OCSO who leaked the info, not Dr. Vass!

Objection and we take the well-worn path to the bench again.

I’m thinking the court reporter should have a machine at her seat as well as one at the bench.  She’s been lugging this thing around all day!

You are aware that this information was released?  If you say so.

Did you have an email with CSI Vincent.  I was upset.

It was released before you even completed your work?  Yes.

That’s quite a bit of pressure isn’t it before you finished your work?  I was upset.

Objection, motion to strike.  Granted.

Your first report says 54 elements and 51 in the second.  Yes, there was overlap because some chemicals have multiple names and we removed the duplicates.

You can see Vass is getting tired of this nonsense.

Ashton just got 3 objections in, that were sustained.

You testified as to the odor of a rose?  As an example, yes.

You testified as to the odor of trash?  As an example.

These samples of trash were taken in July, but you tested them in August?  Correct.

You know air is free-flowing?  Yes.

You have no idea what happened to those sample before you tested them?  Correct.

So, Baez is intimating that all of OCSO screwed around with the samples before Dr. Vass tested them.

It’s a damn conspiracy I tell ya, they had murder on their minds, lol.

I love Dr. Vass!  He’s beating Baez at his own game at every twist and turn!

Baez is playing at his flip chart again.

I think he likes the high off the markers!

Let’s talk LBS.  Your not a physicist?  Correct.

You have no history on the cars (they did the comparison studies to Casey’s car) from the junkyard?  Correct.

They were exposed to all kinds of environmental elements?  Yes, I understand the trunks were unlocked and probably opened while in the junkyard

And you compared that to the car trunk from Florida?  Yes, and isn’t it cool they had much lower levels of chemicals present?

Good one Dr. Vass!

Baez has been spinning the wheels on his Big Wheels, but hasn’t gotten traction one!

You are aware the trunk was sprayed with Blue Star?  Yes, but the data safety sheet that listed the chemicals and it wasn’t relevant.

The trunk was sprayed with Febreze?  Yes, but the ingredients wouldn’t have been relevant to the tests.

God bless Dr. Vass for not losing it with Baez.

Isn’t that cool?

The adipocere elements you found on the paper towels could be found in a hamburger?  It would have to be raw, rotten and very fatty.

You’ve only used the database twice?  You’d have to clarify.

Baez now gets into the Barker Ranch – where the Charles Mason family hid out.  It has nothing, not an iota of similarity to this case!!!

Objection! Sidebar!

Can ya tell Dr. Vass is beyond bored now?

This is crazy enough Judge Perry sends the jury out so Baez can proffer.

In March 2008, you were asked to analyze soil samples from the Barker ranch?  Yes.

Your initial findings said they were consistent with decomp?  Yes.

You visited the site and based on your findings an excavation was begun?  Yes.

Did you say this science was in its infancy?


What are your error rates?  You can’t use error rates in this science.  The chemistry was good, we didn’t understand the environmental conditions.

We only reached a certain depth in the exploratory dig.  We’re talking possibly buried bodies from 40-50 years ago.

No more questions about the Barker Ranch allowed – has no bearing on this case whatsoever.

Jury returns 3:48…

Baez is now mixing protocols for collecting samples in a 40 acre field as opposed to Casey’s trunk!  The trash is different, lol!  Casey’s trash contained food packages that where empty, FGS!

Now Baez switches to diving rods…

Objection!  Let all go the judge’s bench!

Wow, even Dr. Vass is called to the bench, shades of Amy!

You testified to finding clandestine graves?

Objection.  Sustained.

Can a divining rods be made out of coat hangers?  If made of the right materials.

It’s a hobby I find interesting and is a great teaching tool.

Have you been offered a million dollars for…

Objection.  Sustained.

You also wanted to study putting leashes on flies…

Objection.  Sustained.

You know your findings are not accepted…

Objection, call to strike.  Sustained.

Oh this is pitiful and painful!

The smell of human decomp is unique?  To me it is.

You told the Knoxville Press a rotten potato is similar to decomp?  Yes.

You are twisting things around a bit!

Good on you, Dr. Vass!

You didn’t collect any of the items in your testing?  Correct.

You don’t know the history or makeup of the items?  No.

You have no idea of the chemical history of the 10-year-old Pontiac Sunbird?  No.

Baez keeps running to the table to get instruction from Dottie!!!  WTH???

Good God, Baez sits down.

Jeff in for clean-up.

Which governs your philosophy more, science or financial interest? Science.

You remember the deposition with Mr. Baez?  Yes, the inquisition?

The patent information?  You had to go ask somebody about how that works?  Yes.

Baez on recross…

You have no idea if the towels relate to the stain in trunk?  I believe there is a correlation.

You don’t know if  meat was picked up with the towels?  No meat residue was found and it would have had to be equal to about 10 pounds of meat.

Vass is allowed to stand down, there is an issue that needs to be discussed at sidebar.

Next witness will be lengthy so they will start at 9am tomorrow!

Prosecution, home run…defense, strike out!

Dr. Vass has an interstate case to appear at.  The defense slapped Vass with a subpoena today to compel him to produce his database and the State wants it quashed!

This is just so wrong!

Defense withdraws the friggin subpoena!  Morons.

Defense wants Vass recalled in their CIC, but he may go home now!

BTW, during your down time, for your reading enjoyment see what some folks think of Baez’s performance so far!

Apologies to readers for letting my boredom/silliness get the better of me!

  1. offthecuff
    06/06/2011 at 5:36 pm

    Thanks again for relaying the day in court. I am in and out at usually the best times, but I look for your postings to fill in what I miss.

    I still don’t know why Baez uses the easel. Baez made it plain through his questioning that Vass was not a chemist, but Baez made it double plain that NEITHER IS HE! If I were to get personal, the only chemistry Baez seems to have is with Casey.

    In fact, Baez looks quite the dummy turning human-decomposing fatty acids into the remains of a messy snack. AND only Baez has the bold gumption to take the chemicals which Vass previously, laboriously explained emanated from decomp., list them on a giant tablet, and equate them to what is found in everyday soil.

    I wonder about Baez’ boyhood as he doesn’t seem to mind setting himself up as a laughing stock. He may have missed it, but Vass was chuckling many-a-time at him. Too bad that now Baez must now withdraw his subpoena!

    Someone must test this theory. Does Mason hear ANYTHING? He has mastered sitting with his eyes wide open, but registering nothing.

  2. kas
    06/06/2011 at 5:42 pm

    Apparently, Linda Kenney Baden was on InSession today bragging that she gave Baez all the questions he is asking of Vass today. Not something I’d put out there on the ol’ Permanent Record, but that’s just me.

    Loved the Facebook/Wikipedia questions: Yes, Baez (and Linda) Dr. Vass spends hours piddling away his days tweaking his own FB page and manipulating his own WIKI entry. Everyone is just as simple as you.

  3. donchais
    06/06/2011 at 5:44 pm


    I am usually not at a loss for words…however today just left me, ahhh, ummm, urrr, gobsmacked!

    Dr. Vass ran circles around Tweedle Baez.

    Tweedle Mason is still drinking JB at the water cooler!

  4. Hilde
    06/06/2011 at 5:45 pm

    donchais, thanks for making the Happenings in Court today almost pleasurable to read.
    You put everything in Perspective sprinkled with a little Humor which is very much appreciated, especially since this Trial is very serious and can get You down very easily.
    It is really hard to watch Baez questioning Witnesses, he is rude and borderline
    badgering the Witnesses.
    I realize he has a Job to do and basically has no Defense, that is the Reason he is trying his Best to discredit every and any Evidence he can which
    will be harmful to his Client.
    We have seen that Technique in other Cases before and this Case is no different!
    I would think the Jurors are paying close Attention and will be able to concentrate
    on the Evidence which makes Sense and see through what the Defense is trying to do.
    Justice for Caylee is getting closer each Day in Spite of the Games the Defense is playing! JMO

  5. donchais
    06/06/2011 at 5:47 pm

    yup kas, this is just a sad, sad group of has-beens and wanna-bes!

    A baby was murdered and this is their claim to greatness? Disgusting!

  6. jimsilveira1@cox.net
    06/06/2011 at 5:49 pm

    Great reporting on the trial. I watched it live on my computer and was actually embarassed for Baez. He has no idea how stupid he sounds does he? He and that other “Love interest of Casey”have a clue of how to be a defense attorney. My blood boils when they talk down to decent people their as witnesses. Actually telling a witness to stop talking to the Jury and then Baez orders Vass to look at the jury and tell them honestly. I so wanted Vass to say didn’t you make claims in court that cannot be proved when you said Calie drowned and Granpa disposed of the body? Hopefully everyone in the state of Florida see him fow what he is, a wannabe Lawyer. Why hasn’t the judge stopped this trial to remove him as counsel ? This case will absolutely be reversed because of ineffective counsel, no doubt about it.Instead he helps the idiot along by training him in trial Law.

  7. Hilde
    06/06/2011 at 5:50 pm

    donchais, btw. I love that Picture of Caylee You have here.
    It is a Reminder of what this Case is all about!
    It’s not about Casey or her Lawyers or all the other Players in spite of what they might think.

  8. Linda
    06/06/2011 at 5:57 pm

    OMG…JB is looking more like an idiot every day. I’m assuming that JB made all of those objections in an attempt to confuse the jury or Dr. Vass (your note about jury members who have medical background was interesting.) He failed miserably at that. Does the man have no pride? He is an embarrassment in the court room. I wonder if he is desperate yet. I have to giggle at your “side notes” about the well worn path to the “side bar”. Kudos for an excellent job summarizing the otherwise lengthy testimony of Dr. Vass. I was definitely able to get the general idea. I will have to do some research on the paper towel. I lost tract of that among the evidence. I cannot fathom someone who would be so inherently evil as to drive around with a dead, decomposing body of a defenseless child in their trunk! This is the stuff of horror movies.

  9. donchais
    06/06/2011 at 6:18 pm

    Hilde, it was an awful day and I’m afraid I lost my composure. Caylee means too much to have this circus atmosphere continue, but Caylee’s mother has made the bed and now she must lay in it! We, on the other hand, will continue to honor that precious little baby girl!

    Jim, welcome! Judge Perry has no legal recourse to remove Baez. Baez is Casey’s choice, she has to live with him. Don’t worry about appeal…ain’t gonna fly!

    Linda, thanks much! Ummm, pride isn’t a part of Baez’s vocabulary, me thinks!

  10. katydid
    06/06/2011 at 6:24 pm

    This the kicker….I saw Linda K Baden on InSession this morning…she stated she wrote JB’s questions for him for cross examination. IF that is so….as she stated…she did a poor job if it.

  11. katydid
    06/06/2011 at 6:27 pm

    Sorry…saw someone else had already stated that. I almost felt sorry for Baez today…he did look like and sound like a fish out of water and that is putting it nicely.

  12. 06/06/2011 at 6:30 pm

    I don’t know how you do it but you do it well! You have to be doing this as you go along or you couldn’t finish it so quickly. You have a way of filtering out the irrelevant. Thanks for what you do!

  13. donchais
    06/06/2011 at 6:33 pm

    katydid, you are a saint, my friend!

    I long ago lost any ability to feel sorry for Baez, he created his reality and that’s putting it nicely, lol! 🙂

  14. donchais
    06/06/2011 at 6:36 pm

    Thanks Maria!

    As long as there are no loaded weapons in my reach, I’m cool! 🙂

  15. Patsy
    06/06/2011 at 6:37 pm

    Casey should have told the cops the truth and she may have not have gone thru
    this humiliation and put her poor family thru hell too. If she was abused-
    who wouold believe it now with all the lies.
    Her family is still backing her up-even now-amazing. I know if my daughter
    did this I would not help her. I believe they spoiled her too much and that
    Casey was really planning the death of her parents-not her daughter. She told
    her friends her house would be available soon. She wanted to drug her parents,
    kill them, and get their money-maybe kill Lee too. She wouldn’t need to look
    up household weapons to kill her child-those were to kill her family.
    She did drug her daughter because she flipped over that Tony guy and he was
    the first guy who wouldn’t let her bring her girl for the night.

    The babies death was an accident-it probably saved her families life. She
    was trying to get help to kill her family according to my friend in Orlando who knew her.

  16. donchais
    06/06/2011 at 6:44 pm

    Hi Patsy!

    George and Cindy have done a 180 and I don’t see them as ‘still backing’ Casey up!

    As for Casey planning her parents deaths? If you have proof you want to share, I’ll be happy to listen, otherwise we shouldn’t go into unproven rumors. It does Caylee no good!

  17. donchais
    06/06/2011 at 7:00 pm

    Sorry Patsy, read the terms of being allowed to comment here.

    You choose not to comply so, please move elsewhere to where your unsubstantiated claims are considered acceptable!

  18. offthecuff
    06/06/2011 at 7:14 pm

    Information they haven’t gotten to is Dr. Vass’ opinions about how long the body was in the trunk. I suppose this cannot really be determined exactly, nor is it really key. The key is that there was a body in the trunk decomposed enough to produce the fatty acids. But, no, Baez, no blood and no DNA.

  19. Evelyn
    06/06/2011 at 7:23 pm

    Did anyone else notice that Casey seems very sleepy today? I am only a little way into watching the tape but ‘what up with that’? She looks like she is on tranqs.

  20. ritanita
    06/06/2011 at 7:25 pm

    Why does Baez assume that EVERYBODY is out for fame and fortune? Bloise called the media? Arpad has spent 20 years of research just to invent a machine and maybe get 4-5% of the royalties? At least Baez didn’t say “MILLIONS” today!

    He needs to stop projecting on others his own motivations.

  21. Kim
    06/06/2011 at 8:44 pm

    Shew!! Well done and I thank you! I missed Dr Vass today due to my work schedule 😦 so I thank you for the summary!!

    Keep up the great work!!

  22. tess
    06/06/2011 at 9:08 pm

    I loved Dr. Vass. He was such a genuine guy. He loves his chosen field and it shows. Money…not so much. I just wonder what in world was the tripod with notepad for? If I was a juror, (glad I’m not) and looked at three fat catagories and numbers that were not labeled….duh wth is that? Then he flips the pad to a new page. Moronic. He and KC have the same personality with the self-inflated egos.

  23. FRG
    06/07/2011 at 9:21 am


    OMG! The best part (IMO) was when JB on the cross asked about the adipocere and Dr. Vass started by referring to Dr. Haskell and OOPS! I withdraw my question, “too damming”. That was brilliant! LOL

    JB introduced “pot” to the jury! Hilarious isn’t it? Is JB implying that the mother of the year besides being a “professional liar” is also a “pot head”? Are you kidding me? What a joke!

    ritanita, yep I agree with you!

  24. FRG
    06/07/2011 at 9:23 am

    Hey tess,

    One would think that JB was prepared to know how to spell the chemical compounds Dr. Vass was telling him right? What a buffoon! LOL

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