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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Twenty-Two


Well, yesterday was quite the mess!  Jodi’s lies and selective memory were, to put it mildly, totally unbelievable.  She sure dug herself quite the hole!  Nurmi was a surprise too!  For all his plodding and repeated questions he sure didn’t end on a dramatic crescendo, rather he went out with a defeated whimper.

Let the games and the ‘shaking’ begin. Unleash Juan Martinez!

Wow, Judge on bench at 10:12…discussing still photographer for some reason…defense seems to have an issue?

WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial Defense wanted to ban still photography. They just tested out the sound, nurmi went into the jury stand and didn’t hear clicks #JodiArias

Let’s get ready to rumble!

Court starts at 10:33.

Screen shot 2013-02-21 at 12.50.28 PMArias on the stand.

Martinez shows the photo of Jodi and sister Angela.

That’s you and your dumb sister?  She’s my sister, not dumb.

Didn’t you say that to Travis on the phone call?  Yes.

Martinez getting into photos and the color of Jodi’s hair.


The hair color in the next photo is blonde!

Do you have trouble with your memory?  When under stress.

But you can tell us what coffee you bought 4 years ago?  I always got the same drink at Starbucks.Screen shot 2013-02-21 at 12.50.46 PM

But, you can’t remember what you said 4 days ago?  Yes.

You broke up with Mr. Alexander in 2007?  Yes.

But you went there in August?  Yes, he said I could.

You went there and peeped in the house?  Yes.

You went around the back to get in the house?  Yes.

You saw Mr. Alexander right?  I didn’t know it was him at first.

You saw a female?  Yes.

Who was it?  He didn’t tell me.

But I asked if you knew her?  I could see part of her face.

Her bra was off?  I said it was unhooked.

They didn’t see you?  No.

So you were watching them?  No, I saw it and ran.

So you made all of this out from a TV light?  Yes.

You took off, right?  Right.

Then you thought about it and spoke to your father?  Yes.

You were crying?  Yes.

I thought yesterday you said you didn’t talk to your family about Travis?  Not typically.

Did you talk to your father?  Yes, but not about the other things.

What gave you the right to return to Mr. Alexander the next day?  He was courting me.

You sent a two part message to Steve Carroll?  Yes.

One part went to Travis?  Yes.

He was upset and wanted to see the second part of the message?  Yes.

So then you fabricated the second text?  Yes.

Wasn’t that a lie?  Yes and no.

You told us you were monogamous with Mr. Alexander?  Sexually, yes.

When you killed him, you said you were monogamous?  Yes.

You then went to Utah?  Yes.

At that time you weren’t sure Travis was dead?  Yes.

Did you know Mr. Alexander was dead when you and Mr. Burns were kissing?  Yes and no.

It was ok for you and Mr. Burns to be rolling around?  I was single.

It was ok for you, why did you confront Mr. Alexander about the girl at his house?  Because his was still courting me and I wanted to know where I stood.

Martinez shows her another photo the clearly shows her left knuckle on the ring finger is not messed up!!!  Travis couldn’t have broken that finger.

She claims Travis broke the finger 4 months prior to the photo she just saw.

You told Mr. Burns you had a problem to your left finger?  I don’t know if it was left or right?

You have memory problems?  Sometimes.

So everything you’ve told us is suspect?  I only remember things that are crystallized in my mind.

Jodi, Jodi, Jodi…your credibility is in the crapper.

Martinez moves to Jodi telling Flores that the female ninja cutting her left ring finger on the interview tape.

Did you tell Det. Flores this woman attacked you on June 4th 2008?  Yes.

The injury happened June 2008, not January 22?  No.

Did you testify yesterday you cut that finger on a glass in Mr. Alexander’s house?  I broke several glasses there.

January 22 when you said this finger incident happened, you were writing in a journal?  Yes.

You wrote in it about what was going on in your life?  Frequently.

OMG!  Juan whips out her journal!  Jodi identifies it.

Nurmi asks to approach regarding the journal.


Have to say Jodi has been smirking and defiant so far!

Apologies folks…know I’m missing a ton, but at this rapid-fire speed, it’s hard to keep up!

Her entry on August 26, 2007 says loves Travis Alexander completely.

Nurmi objects again…sidebar…

Nurmi is playing the game of interrupting and trying to throw Martinez off his game!

January 24th entry is moved to be put in as an exhibit.

Yet another sidebar…

She had an entry on the 20th, then, none till the 24th.

January 24 you wrote you hadn’t written for days because nothing noteworthy has happened, yet you told us the incident with the finger was on the 22nd!

Of note, Jodi also said Jan 21 was when she walked in on Travis masturbating with pictures of little boys!

You missed Lonnie’s baptism in January 2008 because you and Travis were in a sexual liaison with the PopRocks and Tootsie Pops?  That’s what you testified to?  I would have to reference dates.

Ok, I’ll show you a transcript.

Nurmi objects…sidebar…

He sure is trying to give Arias time to think up another lie!

The January 20th entry also references Lonnie’s baptism?  Yes.

Moves to enter as an exhibit, Nurmi says he needs time to review, a lot of pages…sheesh.

Lunch recess called…

Dr Daniela Schreier just tweeted this to HLN ‏
#jodiarias @teamhln @insession JM establishes her as a woman who pushes back; not the lost, helpless woman that the defense portrayed.

Court resumes 1:30 with Arias on the stand.

Nurmi is complaining about the journal and the transcript!

Jury comes in at 1:38.


The Tootsie Pops and PopRocks are connected to the day of Lonnie’s baptism?  Yes.

There is no other date mentioned?  It’s implied, I was counting Thursday night.

But it’s not a date is it?  No.

Jodi is playing word games and Juan is tripping her up!

Jodi is smirking and acting smug.

Part of this encounter involved braids?  Yes.

You think they’re hot?  I guess.

Not guess, you think they’re hot?  Cute.

Martinez plays the sex tapes and Jodi says she really liked the bath with the bubbles and braids.


Jodi refuses to answer yes or no…she stalls, thinking to decide how to answers.

OMG, Jodi says on the tape the braids are hot!

You enjoyed those braids?  It’s not a yes/no answer.

You said they were hot and you liked it, right?  I liked his attention.

You said you thought they were hot?  If he thought so, I did.

That’s not what you said on the testimony, so you lied?  No.

Juan plays the tape again, lol.

Woot! Juan just hit on the no entries from the 20th to the 24th.

She never mentioned the injury to her finger!!!

You didn’t tell the Detective about that did you?  No.

So you lied to the Detective?  Yes.

So when do you decide to tell the truth…here in court?  I’m not saying that.

You had a car then, right?  Yes.

You could have driven to the hospital?  Yes.

You could have told someone?  Yes.

You called your father when you saw Travis making-out with a girl?  Yes.

You could have called your father about the finger?  Yes.

On January 21 you saw Mr. Alexander masturbating to pictures of little boys?  One picture.

You testified to several pictures?  I saw only one of them.

Yet your journal says nothing important happened between the 20th and the 24th!

That was significant wasn’t it?  Yes, he had a problem.

Did you call child services?  No.

You waited to tell anyone about this?  Years.

What time of day did this happen?  Afternoon, but before night.

At noon?  After noon.

2pm?  I don’t remember.

If you were angry or upset wouldn’t that have heightened your senses?  My mind doesn’t work that way.  It was something I’ll never forget.

You said you worked that day?  Yes.

What time did your shift start?  I don’t remember.

She only remembers she went to work, not what time.

How many hours did you work that day this horrible thing happened?  I can only give you a range.

How long has your memory problem existed?  It goes back.  I don’t call it a problem.

When did you start having these memory issues?  It depends on the type of memory.

What factors influence the memory problems?  When men like you are screaming or grilling me or Travis yelling at me.

What time did you get off from work on January 21?  A time in the afternoon.

Can you be more specific?  No I wasn’t looking at my watch.

Where did you go?  Travis’ house to help put away Christmas decorations.

What time did you get there?  I don’t know.

You just went into the house?  Yes.

When did you agree it would be January 21 and what time?  We had multiple discussions.

You can’t tell us about the time?  Not the precise minutes.

You can’t tell us what hours you worked that day?  Not precisely.

Jodi has taken to mumbling responses, lol.

You left after you saw him with the pictures?  Yes.

I drove away and went home and threw up and then drove around.

You were driving his car then?  We hadn’t swapped cars at the time.

Travis didn’t have a car?  Yes he had one.

Juan now shows her text messages from that time.

What Juan gets round to the masturbating, she says it occurred in the afternoon, yet she is texting Travis around 7pm when Travis wouldn’t have been home because he was going ‘family home evening’ that began at 7pm.  (A silly fact of time Jodi can’t remember even though she attended FHE’s many times!)

You tell your DV expert that you saw the masturbatory event happened while Travis was on the computer?  I never said that.

You know your DV expert said at a hearing that you saw the masturbatory event happened while Travis was on the computer?  No.

You know your DV expert said at a hearing that you saw the masturbatory event happened while Travis was on the computer?  I remember you saying it.

You heard the snippet we played at the hearing, did you hear it?  I did, but didn’t understand it.

But, did you hear it?  Yes.

These messages are about trading cars?  Yes.

But you texted you were going to sleep around 7:25?  Yes.

You said you left Travis’ house you went home and he called you repeatedly, but you didn’t respond?  Yes, but at the visitors center I had the volume off on my phone.

She started calling him around 3pm and made several calls.

You called at 4:53 and he returned your call at 4:54pm?  I don’t remember specifically.

They were texting from 5:48pm…so she wasn’t ‘not’ communicating with him like she said!

Juan pretty much has shot the crap out of the masturbation event!  Total BS story!

Afternoon recess called…whew!

Jodi reviewing Travis’ phone logs.

The calls that are there are between you and him?  Yes.

On the 21st the calls started at 3:53 and the last call he made to anybody ended 7:11pm from his phone.

Your allegation about the masturbation was subject of a hearing on August 8, 2011?  I believe it was.

The purpose of that hearing was partially based on the pedophilia allegation?  Yes.

At that hearing, you tried to get somebody to lie, didn’t you?  No.

Squirmy Nurmi objects…sidebar…

Martinez shows her a photography magazine that belongs to her.

Nurmi reviews it and asks to approach…sidebar…

Think they’re serving drinks at the sidebars!

Yesterday you spoke about Inside Edition?  Yes.

And you received this magazine at the jail?  Yes.

A Ms. Campbell (Inside Edition) came to visit and you talked for an hour?  Yes.

You wanted to give her this magazine?  Yes that and another.

Star Magazine?  Yes.

It was addressed to you?  Yes.

Several officers have to review the materials before an inmate can pass them.

OMG, OMG, OMG!  Jodi wrote messages on pages of the magazine.  One references an ABC producer, Mark Stanick.

He visited her twice in jail.

You didn’t solicit the Inside Edition?  No.

What’s the name of the guard who pushed you into the interview?  I don’t know, she encouraged me.

You can refuse any visit?  Yes.

The messages are in pencil because in jail you don’t get pens!


The hidden messages were written 4 days before the hearing!

You know Mr. McCartney was being interviewed by the prosecutor?  Yes.

The interview took place within a month of the hearing.  Yes.

McCartney was cheating on her with Bianca.  Jodi drove to Crater Lake to confront her.

Isn’t that the same behavior you exhibited with Mr. Alexander?

Steve told her what room Bianca was in.

He’s kinda gay and over dramatic?  He is gay and yes.

When you found the correct room, you could hear Steve’s excited tone behind the door?  That’s right.

Jodi knocked and Bianca answered.

You talked to her about whether she and Matt had a relationship?  Yes.

You weren’t living with him at that time?  No, he moved away from Crater Lake.

You believed you were still boy friend and girlfriend?  Yes.

You became upset during that conversation?  No.

Did you raise your voice to her?  No.

After the Bianca confrontation she and Matt broke up because the trust was gone.

That’s similar to what happened with Mr. Alexander?  Yes.

She and Matt both got work at Ventana and lived together in a worker’s tent.

They’re still friends.

When you made your trip from Yreka to kill Mr. Alexander you stopped in Monterey were Matt was staying?  Yes.

Court in recess!

Holy cow, what a day!

See ya Monday!

  1. MMD
    02/21/2013 at 7:00 pm

    I want Martinez and court tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. ritanita
    02/21/2013 at 7:05 pm

    Ah, I get it now. The magazines went from Jodi to Campbell to Matt so he would lie at the hearing!


    My mind is still reeling from Martinez’ efforts to pry simple answers out of Jodi. She sure had a great time on the stand today smiling, smirking, and making rude comments. Even when her little plot with the magazines was found, she literally beamed with pride.

    How many ways can you say psycho?

  3. donchais
    02/21/2013 at 7:24 pm

    Hidden message in magazines Jodi tried to smuggle out (see ritanita post, # 2, first two sentences). The message was the same in both magazines!

    Page 6 – Mark Stanoch (520) 256-1178 (ABC)

    Page 20 – You testify so

    Page 37 – We can fix this

    Page 40 – Directly contradicts what I’ve been saying for over a year

    Page 43 – You fucked up. What you told my attorney next day

    Page 54 – Interview was excellent! Must talk asap!

    Page 56 – Get down here asap and see me before you talk to them again and before

  4. Rache
    02/21/2013 at 7:27 pm

    One more way to say psycho……she stated that angry men yelling at her (i.e., Juan Martinez and Travis) cause her brain to be scrambled…..then came a huge psycho smile. I think she is coming off as quite evil….I cannot imagine the jury appreciates her constant smirking, etc. Thank you, donchais, for the blog. I always like your side comments. I am grateful the trial pace has picked up…..Nurmi was so slow and frustrating.

    • donchais
      02/21/2013 at 7:30 pm


  5. MMD
    02/21/2013 at 7:37 pm

    I am cancelling everything for the next few weeks until this cross is over.

    I would certainly want Martinez doing the prosecutiion if the victim was anyone I cared about. He is truly awesome.

    • donchais
      02/21/2013 at 7:38 pm

      Second that! He’s a pro!

  6. MMD
    02/21/2013 at 8:08 pm

    I swear to God that I thought Nurmi/Willmott as well as JA were going to read the entire photography magazine as well as the Star, including all the fine print, from cover to cover!

    As for the transcripts, why would they have an issue with those? I mean, seriously, it’s like the def kept looking at each other and tried to figure out ways to drag on and on and on the waits for exhibits to be admitted as if they were trying to run out the clock and rescue JA from the stand as soon as possible.

    I must confess that I wanted to just bang on JA’s head and say hello, you have a brain, use it now and stop with the selective fake amnesia. Life’s a bitch when you’re no longer in control and can’t ramble on and on with your minute, inconsequential details!

    When Nurmi was sprawled back in his chair, I truly wanted to give him tad bit of help and shove him ass over tea kettle! He is truly pissing me off and he should not be shaking his head at Martinez. The only bonus to no court on Friday is at least I don’t have to look at his face for three days, imho.

    Anybody notice that JA didn’t do any shaking today? Maybe she is going to save that for when the waterworks are also needed. Mama must be so proud of her psycho daughter complete with the numerous men she “hung out” with!

    Donchais, once again thanks for the great reporting and providing us with this blog to vent.

  7. Observer
    02/21/2013 at 8:10 pm

    I love Martinez. He unmasked Little Red Riding Hood. Got her to blow her cover. She’s really the Big Bad Wolf. She’s met her match with this prosecutor. He uncovered crimes we never even knew she’d committed. Tampering with a witness. Add that to perjury, murder, Heaven knows what else we’ll learn about her next week.

    • donchais
      02/21/2013 at 8:52 pm

      Cool huh, Observer? A master at work!

  8. kristin
    02/21/2013 at 8:14 pm

    At the end of the day I wanted to run up to Mr.Martinez and slap him an awesome high five! He is making her be held accountable for her words. I see now Jodi is accusing everyone else of lying. That expression she makes while being asked a question is the poster child face for lying. She has a face only a fist could love. She has become tangled in her own web of lies. At the end of the day she popped up from the witness stand fast as lightening lol. Today really made me believe she will get the penalty she deserves, death.

    • donchais
      02/21/2013 at 8:54 pm

      kristin, Watching her mental gymnastics was truly fascinating!

  9. MMD
    02/21/2013 at 8:28 pm

    Check out this instagram picture from TwitterChris Williams @chriswnews

    Made this (not so artsy)map of #JodiArias ctroom 4 U. #Arias jurors sex listed in order by rows. Hope it… http://instagr.am/p/WAaBE8KUv8/

    Looks like an awful lot of jurors and it shows exactly where the men and women are sitting. It really shows up on the instagram picture better than on his tweet. Kinda interesting.

  10. MMD
    02/21/2013 at 8:42 pm

    Off topic a bit but YAY – Drew Petersen was denied a retrial today and sentenced to 38 years for the murder of his third wife Kathleen Savio. Hopefully now they can go after him for his fourth wife Stacy, who mysteriously disappeared in 2007 as well!!

    Life is gonna be tough for a cop in prison. Aint life grand!

    • donchais
      02/21/2013 at 8:56 pm

      MMD, Yup, Stacy next, god willing!

  11. janet
    02/21/2013 at 8:56 pm

    Donchais, you crack me up! Rapid fire & u couldn’t keep up?? Lol!! You got that right!! I was absolutely super glued to the computer!! No way one could have kept up reporting on this!! Very good try though!!! You did good!! I can’t wait to hear what, & who she told someone to lie for r. OMG!! Did u notice how Martinez’ tone got lighter?? So she wouldn’t feel attacked?? Now she has no reason to feel “abused”. She’s really gonna be shakin’ like a Chihuahua come Monday!! But goodness it’s gonna be a l-o-n-g weekend!!

    • donchais
      02/21/2013 at 9:23 pm

      Thanks Janet! See comment 2 here!

  12. Commerce1
    02/21/2013 at 9:21 pm

    Those glasses she’s wearing to cultivate the poor, timid librarian look are clearly fake. Anyone notice how every time Martinez made her read pages in her journal she had to take the glasses off? Odd, WHEN GLASSES ARE SUPPOSED TO HELP YOU SEE BETTER!!!!! LMAO!

  13. Observer
    02/21/2013 at 9:36 pm

    Jodi’s anti-social personality came out when Martinez said, “Maam did I ask you if you called your sister stupid?” She hates authority figures and she hates following rules.” It is clear that Jodi is running the defense team and Nurmi is her employee. She fired her other lawyers probably because they wouldn’t go along with her pedophile sham and was acting as her own attorney until she got into hot water forging a document and probably tampering with the witness that Nurmi broiught up happened at the 2011 hearing..

  14. CiCi's Circle
    02/21/2013 at 10:13 pm

    After watching Dr. Drew this evening we received a bit of information from his in court observers. When asked if they thought Martinez was too rough and what they think the audience reaction to was they indicated that many people have changed their minds about JA and felt Martinez did a fantastic job. Also, what we didn’t hear or see (probably because they went to commercial!) was after JA made the comment to Martinez that her brain gets scrambled when men like him and Travis yell at her, Martinez walked up to her and in a very quiet voice said, “Is this better Jodi?” Three jurors started to laugh and one covered his face with his notepad and started to laugh. Dr. Drew’s observers indicated that the jury and the audience appeared to be in sync with Martinez! They also observed one female juror smiling with JA and shaking her head when JA made the comment to Martinez about yelling at her. There was another time when the juror shook her head at her but we forgot what that was! Sorry…..between the five of us we can’t come up with one good consolidated memory!! Our hearing is even worse!!

    Anyway…..our summary of today is we think Martinez did a great job! He made the other side of JA come through. The fact that she was sitting there acting cockey, sarcastic, smiling, putting her head down while laughing came through loud and clear to the jury! This is the side they needed to see and she was true to form!! What really upset us was when the camera panned to her mother and aunt and they were sitting there laughing!! How disrepectful was their behavior to the Alexander family?!! Ohhhhhhh…..we wanted to reach out and pop them a good one up side their heads!! We can take them any day, any time, anywhere!!! The nut on the stand didn’t fall too far from that tree!!

    The criticism of Martinez being too rough…..we don’t think so! Martinez will be damned if does and damned if he doesn’t so he might as well go get her by the hair and show her what for!! He’s out there for Travis and his family and no one else!! You go guy!!

  15. Tyronr33
    02/21/2013 at 11:22 pm

    I am SO glad my boss doesn’t mind me listening (peeking) at the love stream of this trial. It certainly helps me get my work done.

    She is so smug, but Kristin your “a face only a fist could love” made me laaaugh and laugh!

  16. Lisa M
    02/21/2013 at 11:23 pm

    Ok I was wrong. There was no plea deal and Jodi didn’t “call in sick” today. Guess I just couldn’t believe this day would ever come! Well I was dismayed that she held her own as well as she did but I don’t think the sparring with Martinez will ultimately pay off. The comment she said accusing him of stressing her out like Travis may have backfired because it seemed calculated and also she isn’t coming off like a shrinking violet. I just hope her zest to be right and not let Martinez get the better of her makes her look bad. I bet though that her attorneys will be meeting with her a lot over the next three days to coach her some more, but I think she’ll do it her way anyway. I mean her secret message showed she hasn’t even been honest with them; it seemed to imply she was angry that someone had gone off script and told them something she didn’t want them to know. But she was positively gleeful at times as if she were winning. But so much damning evidence came out today that it made her look pretty bad even if she may have stood cross well in some ways.

  17. Tyronr33
    02/21/2013 at 11:23 pm

    *live stream.

  18. Lisa M
    02/22/2013 at 12:00 am

    I know there are a lot of talking heads saying Martinez was too meandering or too aggressive but I disagree because he has to move around re: subjects because he needs the throw her off her game and he was able to tone it down when he needed to. She is a sociopath so she’s going to win a few points or get the best of him at times. This is what she does folks! She’s good at it. Just like her “love u bunches” and her “love u, hon”– to Travis– words calculated to aggravate him, to get him angry. At least Martinez wasn’t all-out aggressive like he was with Searcy. Anyone would have a hard time interrogating Jodi. She’s slippery like an eel.

  19. 02/22/2013 at 12:14 am

    donchais, Thank you so much for these posts! I’m not living in an area where I get reliable internet, so streaming isn’t usually an option for me.. Unfortunately, I’ve been relying on IS and HLN.. Well.. No comment on my opinion of watching trials there nowadays.. lol.. Anyway, kudos to you for your fantastic recaps of the trial!
    Anakerie (remember me? LOL)

  20. 02/22/2013 at 1:37 am

    I wonder if her attorneys advised her not the bate Martinez because after their argument and after reconvening after the recess, she seemed to answer his questions more directly.

    She does not realize that her baiting him does not reflect well on her. It doesn’t show her as this fragile woman who was abused. It shows that she gives as good as she gets and one could conclude easily that there is no way she would allow any man to hit her or abuse her in any way.

    I laugh when anyone comments that she’s doing well by standing her ground. I think her standing her ground defeats the purpose because she is supposed to have never allegedly stood her ground with Travis and that’s the whole point.

    Donchais thank you so much for your hard work and effort. I live overseas and I have been following this trial ever since I saw the 48 Hours episode where she screamed of “guilt”. I’m so happy I found this site…that site that should remain nameless that claims she is innocent is laughable.

  21. 02/22/2013 at 4:32 am

    Great Website, thanks! I am Team Travis, Martinez all the way!

  22. ritanita
    02/22/2013 at 6:39 am

    FYI about the glasses issue. I was nearsighted and would be considered legally blind without my glasses. I always took my glasses off to read as nearsighted people see better up close. (Nurmi and Jodi)

    After cataract surgery I am farsighted and see better at distances. I now need reading glasses. I can watch tv and drive without.

  23. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 6:53 am

    ritanita :
    Ah, I get it now. The magazines went from Jodi to Campbell to Matt so he would lie at the hearing!
    My mind is still reeling from Martinez’ efforts to pry simple answers out of Jodi. She sure had a great time on the stand today smiling, smirking, and making rude comments. Even when her little plot with the magazines was found, she literally beamed with pride.
    How many ways can you say psycho?

    Smug little biatch isn’t she! She truly has no concept of how good Martinez is and what a deep hole she is digging for herself every time she opens her mouth. Did she really think “her code” wouldn’t come out? I really think that someone should clue her in to the fact that her effort was probably one of the more inept ones as I’m sure any seasoned criminal would tell her. Real life is not like a tv show.

    If she is infuriating me this much with her antics through a computer screen, the jury must be even more so. While she is loving the world focus on poor little victim Jodi and playing to the jury, they have a job to do and her literally in their hands. They also have real lives to get back to, something she is totally unable to comprehend. If it isn’t about her, then it doesn’t even hit her radar. She is acting like a petulant little kid going through the terrible two’s. As Observer pointed out, these are local people who have been living this case since 2008!

    Mama must be so proud!

    I really think that you and donchais should give this up and replace the talking heads on HLN! I sometimes wonder if they are watching the same case as I am! Kudos to you both!

  24. donchais
    02/22/2013 at 8:10 am

    Anakerie! Of course I remember you and glad you stopped in!

    Thanks deni!

    Glad you joined us Sam!

    MMD, ritanita would do great as a talking head, me not so much because I can’t censor myself, lol!

  25. ritanita
    02/22/2013 at 8:23 am

    I sure hope that the end of testimony yesterday, which went more smoothly will continue. However, Juan threw her “softballs” of linear testimony starting with Matt and going on down the coast. Notice how easy it was for her to respond.

    However, he does have to go back to the non-linear approach we saw earlier. It’s so easy for her to remember the lies when they are in order.

    BTW, my apologies for e-mailing you the message out-of-order! Here’s it in order:

    Page 43 – You f****d up. What you told my attorney next day

    Page 40 – Directly contradicts what I have been saying for over a year

    Page 56 – Get down here asap and see me before you talk to them
    again and before

    Page 20 – You testify so

    Page 37 – We can fix this

    Page 54 – Interview was excellent! Must talk asap!

  26. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 8:27 am

    *****correction***** they have a job to do and her life is literally in their hands.

  27. PK
    02/22/2013 at 8:33 am

    Jean Cesarez and Kirk Nurmi, though both quite different at so many levels, both carry the Beavis and Butthead gene – tiny little mouths attached to very big heads. Amusingly distracting, to me at least, in both cases.

  28. Observer
    02/22/2013 at 9:28 am

    I thought Martinez was brilliant when he used a story that Jodi used to prove her fear for her life and turns it around to prove she is a stalker. She testified as Travis is chasing her through the house the day of the murder “it was just like the last time.” Nurmi – thinking she had another story that will prove the Abusive Pedophile tried to kill the poor little Mormon girl – encourages her to tell the story.

    She then tells this long involved story about how after she moved to Mesa and had boxes in Travis garage, she was going over to Travis’s house and looking through the window and seeing Travis making out with a woman, getting upset, crying and calling her father and then the next day she asks Travis who the woman was and if he should move on and he bangs his head on the closet door. Nurmi – realizing this was hurting not helping her – told her to get back to the murder scene.

    In cross, Martinez turns it around as proof she was obsessed with Travis and stalking Travis. Martinez points out that she was standing outside “peeping in” and was standing there long enough to have seen the woman hook up her bra and Travis stand up, she is so upset she is crying and runs off, calls her father whom she never talks to and cries to him. Martinez tells her they were broken up so why did she care. She says he was “courting” her. He says “that’s the way you saw it.”

    This is leading up to proving that the relationship she thinks she had with Travis is all in her head. Travis saw her as someone to help improve her life. He tries to get her into pre-paid legal, get out of a dead end relationship with Daryl and join the LDS Church to improve her life as he does with everybody. He sends the missionaries to teach her the gospel. Jodi decides she wants Travis as her husband. He wants a virginal Mormon girl who has strong values so she tries to pretend to be that woman by joining the church and leaving Daryl. Because Travis is 30 and a virgin, Jodi believes she can give him what the other Mormon women aren’t giving him: sex.

    So she seduces him thinking he will marry her for the sex. When she starts getting possessive and jealous after 90 days, he dumps her and she moves to Mesa to try to get him back. She convinces him to let her store boxes in his garage so she has an excuse to go to his house and spy on him, borrows his car as an excuse to see him, calls and texts him. When he texts her he has to end their conversation and go to bed, she told Florez that was code that he wanted sex with her. So she crawls through his doggy door and ends up in his bed in the middle of the night knowing he is not getting sex anywhere else.

    Martinez will point out Travis’s texts “you’re evil and a sociopath” “you’re wearing me down” “I am sick of your lies and your bullcrap” “just leave me alone” show he was a man being stalked by a delusional psychopath in a fatal attraction, not an abuser. And she proved that by stabbing him 29 times, slashing his throat and shooting him in the head to stop him from going to Cancun with another woman.

  29. GN5020
    02/22/2013 at 9:39 am

    My guess is that we will say a “new Jodi” on the stand Monday. Three days of coaching from Nurmi and she will pull out all the shaking and tears whenever Martinez throws something she doesn’t want to answer. I think Martinez method of quick linear questions and then shifting to another subject is a great legal “rope-a-dope” and Smarty Pants is going to find her 4+ years of litigation “training” is no match for a pro like Martinez. Finally — did you see how red Nurmi’s face got over the magazines and phone records? I thought he was going to roll out on the floor.

  30. GN5020
    02/22/2013 at 9:40 am

    Correction — “see” a “new Jodi”

  31. Nancy Pennington
    02/22/2013 at 10:55 am

    I wonder what would have happened if Lisa Andrews had agreed to marry Travis? Who would JA have killed? My sick thought is that they would never made it to their wedding day!!! I am thoroughly convinced that this was a cold blooded murder and the motive was jealously and obsession.

  32. Observer
    02/22/2013 at 11:10 am

    I hope we see a new Jodi every day. It only proves she is a psychopath with many different faces. In her pictures, we see a woman who grooms herself to be the sexy seductress with pouty lips, long blonde or dark hair with blonde highlights, manicured nails, curves and a smug smile that says “Look at how hot I am.” Even when she did the TV interviews from her jail cell she still glammed herself up so she looked hot and sexy. On the sex tape, we hear a coy little sex kitten. So it is obvious that the drab stringy hair, boyish body and glasses are an act to make herself look like an ugly victim of domestic abuse.

    In the TV Interview in 2011 – three years after her arrest – where she says, “No jury is going to convict me because I am innocent. Mark my words. No jury is going to convict me,” she believes all she has to do is walk into that courtroom looking hot and sexy and say Travis was a pedophile, the jury will feel she was justified in killing him and she will walk free.

    She doesn’t know how to deal wiith men other than seduce them so she tried to show she was smarter than Martinez with her smirks, smiles and sarcastic retorts which showed it was all an act that she was afraid of men who yell at her. She quipped that she only loses her memory when men like Martinez and Alexander yell at her. No shaking. No earthquake just a “Gotcha.” which was short lived when Martinez said sofftly, “Is this better for you, Jodi?”

    He is deliberately throwing barbs at her to get her to react to show she isn’t afraid of men who yell. She responded by standing up to him and taking him on. When he said, “On your way to murder Travis” she looked angry and refused to answer the question “as stated” so he just repeated the last part of it.

    If Jodi was truly a battered woman, she would have cowered and acted submissive when he confronted her, not sarcastic, verbally combative and trying to “one up” him.

  33. paula
    02/22/2013 at 12:25 pm

    I was surprised that today the meek and timid littleJodi did not make an appearance. Instead a more cocky, confident mature Jodi appeared (I believe a bit more true to her real personality but still not quite there). I can’t wait to see on Monday which of Jodi’s personalities makes it to the stand — perhaps it will be the one where she thinks she’s a sexy goddess in hopes of seducing the Jury and Mr. Martinez!

  34. Lisa M
    02/22/2013 at 12:30 pm

    I agree, GN520, we will see a new Jodi on the stand on Monday. But hopefully she won’t be able to sustain her “poor little me” demeanor with the way Martinez switches it up with his “rope a dope” (lol) strategy. It’s one thing to play the victim like she has been doing up to now and it’s another to say “I’m a victim” and then laugh about it the way she did yesterday– and hopefully it’s true that the jury isn’t buying it. According to Dr. Drew’s courtroom observers, the jury (other than perhaps one woman) wasn’t sympathetic to her yesterday. They said one woman juror even shook her head when she made the “I forget things when I’m yelled at by people like you and Travis” comment.
    Did anyone notice how she started to use hand and face gestures later in the day? She lifted her hands up and made a scrambling gesture over her head when she said “my brain gets scrambled” She also screwed up her lips to the side at one point, in an exaggerated version of the kind of face people (or rather cartoon characters!) make when they’re pondering something. Does she think she’s starring in her own sitcom?
    Oh, and I loved the way Martinez called her “ma’am”! That must have killed her. Little Miss Sexpot is now Ma’am. That was a brilliant maneuver. For someone whose identity is completely based on her sexual power (in her own mind) it’s got to be extremely disarming. Maybe it even scrambles her brain!

  35. Pam
    02/22/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Her smirking and laughing made me want to reach through the screen. She is so sure of herself. I just hope we don’t have another CA with the jury. It is hard to sentence someone to the death penalty. What is the sentence if not premeditated? Also, who was that man seated in front of JA’s mother? His face looks familiar. Thanks ahead of time if anyone knows the answers.

  36. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 1:11 pm

    Observer – since you are local, I was wondering what the scoop is on Martinez? How long has he been a prosecutor, does he always work alone, is he married and have a family? I’m truly in awe of his skills, laser focus and tenacity, determination, and the way he is able to wade through all the minutia and drill in on the most critical facts of the case.

    He strikes me as a Type A personality who is probably a workaholic but totally determined to get justice for the victims and their families. You just know that no matter what JA came up with he would either have a transcript, voice recording, video, etc. at his fingertips to impeach her testiphony.

    Just curious…….. It’s going to be a long wait ’til Monday.

  37. Janet
    02/22/2013 at 1:17 pm

    I love all these comments! Some take the words right out of my mouth, and others (like Kristen) have me laughing so hard! I agree with every one of you, and am so glad this site is here. I have learned a lot of things on here about this case that I didn’t know before. Coments and all, everyone does a great job, and it’s a joy to read everyones opinions! And yes you all should replace the “talking heads” (LMAO!) donchais, even you!! I wouldn’t want you to censor yourself! It wouldn’t be you! BTW, do you all think Martinez will mention Travis’ dog at the murder, and ask where Napoleon even was during it? Not that it’s WAY important, but I still would like to know why he wouldn’t have at least barked, and barked and barked at the whole incident!!! Nor where he was found 5 days later!! And another thing…I’m sure you all noticed just like I did, Jodi never really even mentioned that she felt the slightest bit of remorse for this killing. Never says she is so sorry to his family, not “oh my goodness, his poor family and friends how they must feel”. She’s just worried about what will happen to HER, and HER life is over. Not that, due to HER, Tavis’ life is now over! Not one ounce of remorse does that psycho even mention what she has taken away from him!!! ….And you guys are right…that nut didn’t fall far from the tree looking at how her family reacts…see ya’ll Monday!! Go get her Martinez!!!! For the family: I would like to truly say I’m so very sorry for your loss and how this psycho has dragged Travis’ name and reputation through the mud. Kudos to them… because I don’t think I could have sat there not being able to react about any of this trial. I probably would have hopped over the rails, and truly let her know what a body slam felt like!! It would be worth 30 days in jail!! RIP Travis! We’ve left her enough rope where she is hanging herself on her own words!!

  38. 02/22/2013 at 1:25 pm

    I totally agree Observer. If she were truly battered, she would not be “back-talking.” She put on the act that she is compliant with men, but we see now that she fights back when cornered. Hell hath no fury…

  39. kristin
    02/22/2013 at 1:33 pm

    Does anyone know how the prosecution got those magazines? Did they reach their intended person and then he turned them over to prosecution? Did JA really think that no criminal had ever tried something like this before?!! This just proves JA believes she is smarter than everyone else! Ding dong. I hope so very much that the jury sees JA for what she is. Her conviction won’t bring Travis back but it will give his family a little peace. Also is anyone aware if the LDS has made an official statement concerning this case and or excommunicated JA from the church?

  40. CiCi's Circle
    02/22/2013 at 1:36 pm

    Hello All…..CiCi’s group here with a question….does anyone know where we find the TV interviews she did so we can listen to them as a whole and not just snipits? We’re not that “schooled” with all this internet stuff so we’re all over the place on the internet!! Have mercy on these ol gals…..Help!

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 1:38 pm

      They got yanked before the trial, but know 48 Hours ran again…this ol gal will check around and maybe some others would look around too!

  41. 02/22/2013 at 1:44 pm

    CiCi’s Circle :
    Hello All…..CiCi’s group here with a question….does anyone know where we find the TV interviews she did so we can listen to them as a whole and not just snipits? We’re not that “schooled” with all this internet stuff so we’re all over the place on the internet!! Have mercy on these ol gals…..Help!

    Hi Cici. There’s a copy of the 48 Hours Mystery on youtube. Here’s the link for ya:

  42. donchais
    02/22/2013 at 1:44 pm
  43. CiCi's Circle
    02/22/2013 at 1:55 pm

    Thank you Deni….we’ll get our tea and sit down and listen to it!

  44. 02/22/2013 at 2:05 pm

    You’re welcome CiCi, the link donchais provided is up to date and incorporates some of the recent news on the current trial but both pretty much tells the same story.

  45. Dramsop
    02/22/2013 at 2:19 pm

    There is a lot of discussion in the media now that Martinez is “coming on too strong”. As opposed to Nurmi’s sickly sweet handholding? You poke a rabid dog- you get a response. That’s all Martinez is doing. He knows exactly who Arias is. She admits to brutally slaying a man. Nurmi mollycodling the fragile little princess manipulated the jury into thinking she is some shrinking violet. Where is the shaking Chihuahua now? The more Martinez pushes her, the more you see Arias rage, arrogance and defiance. She can’t help herself. She is the abuser. IMHO Martinez is not bullying her at all. Arias thinks she is a match for Martinez. Good luck with that.

    • Pam
      02/22/2013 at 2:50 pm

      Very good opinion. She showed her true self. I’m sure Nurmi and her team will prompt her not to act that way on Monday. I wonder if she can.

  46. Lisa M
    02/22/2013 at 2:33 pm

    OH NOOOOOOOO…………. Defense just filed for an interlocutory appeal with the Arizona Supreme Court to stay the death penalty portion of the trial! You know they’re freaking out because Jodi is on the rails. They’re so evil. I hope the trial won’t be derailed or paused because of this.

  47. Lisa M
    02/22/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Okay, I THINK this is just regarding the death penalty phase and not the portion of the trial currently playing out. So what In Session seems to be saying is that if she’s convicted of first degree, they don’t want it to enter into a death penalty phase because Detective Flores “perjured” himself with that whole issue that was already denied by a lower court regarding his testimony on when the gunshot to the head occurred. (Tentative) sigh of relief. I couldn’t bear it if this trial was put on hold, and I’m sure the family couldn’t either!

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 2:51 pm

      Lisa M, you got it right…more info to follow soon!

  48. Lisa M
    02/22/2013 at 2:52 pm

    It was denied! Whew! Way to give me a heart attack, In Session!! Supreme Court of Arizona denied the defense’s request for an interlocutory stay. Yay!

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 2:53 pm

      Yup, got the same news!

  49. Michelle
    02/22/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Donchais…you are doing an awesome job with this blog. I would say your trial recaps are the best on the Internet. I have linked many people who have asked where to get daily information to this blog. I started reading your blog when the Knoxville massacre first came to trial.
    I’ve been reading through some of Martinez’s past trials and judging by all the murderers he has put in prison Jodi doesn’t stand a chance. I think the jury deliberations will be quick because Martinez is so brilliant he is not going to leave them with any doubts in their minds.

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 3:14 pm

      Michelle, you are very kind, thank you. Look to May for Knoxville retrial of George Thomas…I’ll be there as I have spent too many years following and feel I owe it to Chris and Channon!

      Martinez is a master and I am in awe!

  50. Observer
    02/22/2013 at 3:28 pm

    MMD :
    Observer – since you are local, I was wondering what the scoop is on Martinez? How long has he been a prosecutor, does he always work alone, is he married and have a family? I’m truly in awe of his skills, laser focus and tenacity, determination, and the way he is able to wade through all the minutia and drill in on the most critical facts of the case.

    MMD, I don’t usually follow murder trials so all I know is what I’ve read. I read Martinez is a tough prosecutor, works alone, doesn’t make plea deals, victims families love him because he is a bulldog in fighting for them and defense attorneys hate him because he always wins convictions. He has been the subject of at least one documentary and at least two movies were made of his high profile cases. He was the prosecutor in the case of the Mesa woman who beat her terminally ill husband to death and claimed he attacked her. She is on death row.

  51. Observer
    02/22/2013 at 3:55 pm

    kristin :
    Does anyone know how the prosecution got those magazines? Did they reach their intended person and then he turned them over to prosecution? Did JA really think that no criminal had ever tried something like this before?!! This just proves JA believes she is smarter than everyone else! Ding dong. I hope so very much that the jury sees JA for what she is. Her conviction won’t bring Travis back but it will give his family a little peace. Also is anyone aware if the LDS has made an official statement concerning this case and or excommunicated JA from the church?

    The sheriff’s department intercepted the magazine, read the code messages and turned it over to Martinez. That’s when she was representing herself after she fired her first lawyers. She got into trouble for that and told the judge she was “over her head” and asked for new lawyers.

    The LDS Church would not make a statement regarding a murder trial. I don’t know for sure if she was excommunicated but I suspect she was. She testified that after Travis died she confessed to her bishop about the premarital sex but not the murder. Sex outside of marriage is grounds for excommunication. Even if she blamed it all on Travis and she repented, the bishop would most likely have excommunicated her after she was arrested in July 2008 for stabbing an LDS elder 27 times, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head. I am sure her name was erased from church rolls.

  52. 02/22/2013 at 4:04 pm

    when is that judge going to tell her she should abswer with no smrking no laughing and to show respect in her court!! I hhav in all my 79 years have seen such disresect for a court! It is up to you judge to let her know that it is your courtroom, Not hers!!Tell her to answer the guestion>>>>>> and to stop smirking!! Doed she think she can con the whole court room?

    you have allowed her too!!I can only conclude that you are a liberal judge!! May the lord save us from people like you.

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 4:34 pm

      Vivian, So, you are willing to allow the risk of a mistrial? Not a judge by any means! That’s a very risky position and unfortunately the way the legal system works.

  53. 02/22/2013 at 4:05 pm

    Thank you Deni Carson for the link to 48 Hours. Chilling! Had not previously seen this. Having the information that I do now and watching her tell her story in front of the camera is one of the scariest things in true life I have seen. No real tears for killing someone you allegedly loved. It is beyond me to fathom how she could go so long without saying anything to anyone (and she had opportunity) about what happened. There are no words strong enough to describe her lack of humanness.

    Sent from my iPhone

  54. Michelle
    02/22/2013 at 4:12 pm

    I will be looking forward to May. It’s awesome that you can be there for Chris and Channon. I have researched many true crime cases and the torture they endured is by far the worst case in history!

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 4:53 pm

      Michelle, hope I didn’t mislead…I will not be in court, but at my computer. Chris and Channon have a place in my heart and what they suffered is the worst I have seen in all the years I’ve followed trials!

  55. John
    02/22/2013 at 4:15 pm

    Not sure if I heard it correctly,but I think Martinez asked JA if June 3,2008 was the day she drove to Arizona to kill Travis Alexander and her response was”yes”(finally a truthful answer out of her!).Definitely implies that it was premeditated and that response(if I heard it correctly!)may have just bought her a seat on death row.Hope the jury was paying attention and not too distracted by the numerous sidebars and anal sex!!!(Got a little confused like JA for a minute there and wasn’t sure if I was referring to a bathhouse or a courtroom!!!)

  56. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 4:22 pm

    Observer – thank you. I tried to google him but all I could find was info with regard to the current trial.

  57. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 4:43 pm

    deni carson (@denibeni07) :

    CiCi’s Circle :
    Hello All…..CiCi’s group here with a question….does anyone know where we find the TV interviews she did so we can listen to them as a whole and not just snipits? We’re not that “schooled” with all this internet stuff so we’re all over the place on the internet!! Have mercy on these ol gals…..Help!

    Hi Cici. There’s a copy of the 48 Hours Mystery on youtube. Here’s the link for ya:

    donchais :
    CiCi’s Circle…start here http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50139320n

    Thank you so much to both of you. I just watched 48 Hours twice, once on youtube and by some fluke, the updated one on the CBS site. Normally network shows will not play in Canada. For that matter some you can’t even get on their website, like FX but I digress.

    Well, this has now certainly become personal for me after watching Travis’ family and friends be interviewed. It is truly freaky how someone who, if you didn’t know any better, could sound so sincere and normal!!!!! It is so true donchais that “sometimes there are monsters walking among us”.

    I love shows like Dexter, Justified and Breaking Bad, books by Jeffery Deaver, David Baldacci, Michael Connelly, Tess Gerritsen, etc. and they don’t bother me in the least.

    However, and it’s a big however, I may sleep with the lights on tonight. I am totally creeped out and can’t get the vision of JA’s brown eyes out of my mind!

    Hell, forget the may sleep with the lights on, I KNOW I WILL!!!!

    • janet
      02/22/2013 at 5:51 pm

      I heard that 48 hrs. Was going to replay the interview this weekwnd. Is that right? I looked on my tv guide, but it says 48 hrs. is about something on Saturday eve. I would sure like to tape it becase the computer I have won’t play videos well at all! It’s really old…

  58. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 5:20 pm

    I got so creeped out watching 48 Hours that I forgot to finish my thought. Donchais you had answered previous questions from me about Travis and his family, but I truly had no idea how hard their life was before their grandmother rescued them. That entire family has already gone through so much hell but yet they persevered and life was good. It is sad when anyone’s life is cut short by tragedy but losing Travis, especially the way they did, is beyond heartbreaking! He was doing so well, working hard and living out his dreams and had already accomplished so much and then a blonde psycho took away so much. I have no idea how that family is managing to keep so strong. Thankfully they have Martinez in their corner.

    As I said earlier, it has now become personal for me. I REALLY want her to fry and I normally don’t believe in the death penalty.

    still gonna sleep with the lights on………………………

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 5:26 pm

      Sadly, horrific as what she did to Travis and his family…also look what she did to all his friends and what she has done to her own family! She is truly evil and doesn’t care who she takes down in her wake!

  59. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 5:40 pm

    donchais :
    Sadly, horrific as what she did to Travis and his family…also look what she did to all his friends and what she has done to her own family! She is truly evil and doesn’t care who she takes down in her wake!

    All true. I didn’t mean to dismiss the others. It seems like everyone who has ever been in her path has suffered.

    There is a special place in hell waiting for her which I hope comes sooner rather than later!!

  60. Observer
    02/22/2013 at 5:41 pm

    John :
    Not sure if I heard it correctly,but I think Martinez asked JA if June 3,2008 was the day she drove to Arizona to kill Travis Alexander and her response was”yes”(finally a truthful answer out of her!).Definitely implies that it was premeditated and that response(if I heard it correctly!)may have just bought her a seat on death row.Hope the jury was paying attention and not too distracted by the numerous sidebars and anal sex!!!(Got a little confused like JA for a minute there and wasn’t sure if I was referring to a bathhouse or a courtroom!!!)

    John, what Martinez asked was if she stopped in Monterey on June 3, 2008 on her way to kill Travis Alexander and she looked angry and replied that she couldn’t answer the question “as asked” so Martinez asked her if she stopped in Monterey and she said yes. He was just goading her to see if she would explode. I think she holds in her emotions but may explode before Martinez gets through with her. I’m surprised Nurmi missed that and didn’t object. His mind was probably on Martinez bringing up the magazines she tried to smuggle with code words in an attempt to influence a witness on how to testify and wondering how he was going to spin that when Martinez gets through with her.

  61. Observer
    02/22/2013 at 6:00 pm

    I don’t think Jodi is going to fake shaking or sobbing because she has to be on her toes with Martinez. If she even fakes emotion, it may throw her off guard. It is more important to her to be right and stick to her fictional stories than for her to be true to character of the victim who shakes in her boots when someone gets angry and does whatever a controlling man tells her,. Martinez is trying to control her and she hates it. She is a total control freak and perfectionist. She corrects Yurmi and Martinez if they aren’t correct in every word even if it makes no difference.

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 6:09 pm

      Numri? Squirmy Nurmi?

  62. kristin
    02/22/2013 at 6:25 pm

    Thank you so much for answering my questions! Wow, representing herself. A fool for a client. I wonder what her first attorney’s strategy was. Thank you to everyone that posted the 48 Hours clip. I rewatched it. She is a rehearsed liar several times over. She can fake tears, sadness, etc with each person and story. During interrogation by the police, that detective sure got her when he said Travis would still be alive if he had never met you. JA says yes lol! She quickly realized what just happened! The family of Travis looks so much stronger and braver now then during the 48 Hours interview. JA is just so sinister at the end of the interview too. I’m not saying I hate JA, but I would sell her to Satan for 1 single corn chip.

  63. MMD
    02/22/2013 at 6:45 pm

    donchais :
    Numri? Squirmy Nurmi?

    Love it!! All that I could come up with was slimy but that didn’t rhyme. May I borrow it, pretty please?

    • donchais
      02/22/2013 at 7:30 pm

      Be my guest, lol

  64. Observer
    02/22/2013 at 8:10 pm

    Thanks for the 48 Hours Mystery link on Youtube. I hadn’t seen it. I only watched it on the local news and only some of the trial testimony on In Session. What jumped out at me when Jodi Arias related her unbelievable story on 48 Hours about the ninjas was that she said: “Travis was on his knees.” I think that is the only time she told the truth in the entire interview.

    Flores says that there was blood in the bathroom and hallway towards the bedroom, which indicates Travis crawled down the hallway and she followed him stabbing him in the back and then stabbing him in the chest and slitting his throat. Flores also said he believed Travis was shot first and it incompacitated him but didn’t kill him. Flores also testified to that in a hearing.

    Jodi testified on the stand that she made up the Ninja story to “fit the forensics.” After seeing Nurmi on 48 Hours Mystery, I realized she made up her self defense lie based on Nurmi’s statement that the gunshot came first. When Nurmi entered the case after she fired her first attorneys, Jodi had already told the self defense story about the gun going off accidentally to him so she couldn’t change it. That’s why Nurmi was accusing Flores of perjurying himself when he testified that the gunshot came first.

    Now she’s toast because the medical examiner’s report said the gun shot came last because if his heart was still pumping his brain would have bled and the trajectory shows she was standing over him when the shot was fired, not tackling her like a linebacker.

    Another thing that stood out was Flores comment when he arrested Jodi that all she asked was to get her purse because her makeup was in it. She couldn’t live without her makeup. Notice she had makeup on in the 48 Hours interview although the footage was shot in jail sometime before 2010 when the trial was set and postponed for three years. She has less makeup on in the courtroom to make her look pale, pitiful and a victim.

  65. 02/22/2013 at 8:12 pm

    I am more than a little unclear- if she ran out of the house after she shot Travis, when did she put the camera in the washing machine and the knife in the dishwasher

  66. Nancy Pennington
    02/22/2013 at 8:12 pm

    OK so we’ve come up with “squirmy nurmi” and “slimy”. How about just plain “Wurmi ” ??I do believe that says it all.

  67. GN5020
    02/22/2013 at 8:26 pm

    I am SO looking forward to Martinez getting Jodi into the memory gap she has about the actual killing because when she told Flores the Ninja story, she produced a detailed account that specifically fits the real forensic evidence of what happened, so she had to have remembered the details of how she killed Travis and cleaned up afterward to have been able to come up with that false account. You can’t have it both ways, Jodi!

  68. GN5020
    02/22/2013 at 8:53 pm

    Another thing — if they have the bullet Jodi shot from the .25, can’t they compare that to any ammo her grandparents bought for the .25 that was “stolen” just prior to the murder? There was no ammunition found in Travis’ house. Was there a box of ammunition left at her grandparents house after the gun was stolen?

  69. Anonymous
    02/23/2013 at 12:01 am

    “still gonna sleep with the lights on……………………”

    MMD, you are so right! I have been following trials for many years. I actually had a nightmare about JA last night. She gives me the creeps. She is so EVIL!I can’t wait for JM and that jury to wipe that snarky smirk off of her face.They absolutely cannot let her back out on the street

    It breaks my heart to see and hear those interviews of Travis’ friends and family that loved him so much. If any of you read this, know that you are in our prayers. This story just demonstrates how Satan uses his own to try to knock people off the path of righteousness. Satan used one his own to drag Travis down. When she felt him slipping away for good, she killed him. Such a waste, such a shame.

  70. Chrissie A
    02/23/2013 at 2:38 am

    Whoa! Does this woman think she is on a quiz show? Maybe someone should remind her that she is on trial for murder!
    Today when Juan stated that, “You are a practicing Mormon aren’t you?” She replied, “Sort of” Hopefully that has opened the eyes of the one rumored Mormon juror. (Which if true I feel could be a detriment to the prosecution.)
    I started to catch up on the trial on youtube earlier in the week and was feeling brain dead after watching quite a few – I’m so glad I found your excellent coverage! Not only has it enabled me to intelligently catch up, it has spared me throwing my tablet across the room in frustration of Nurmi pussyfooting around JA like she was some sort of delicate flower.
    I’m now caught up and pleased that Juan is instead showing her to be the poison ivy that she really is!!!
    I’m also loving the feedback from all on here 🙂

    If anyone wants to catch up on any the coverage the best links I’ve found on youtube are:


    (tawnidilly also has the 48 hrs coverage and other excerpts from ABC/CBS etc. on the trial)

    donchais Thanks again!!!

  71. Laine
    02/23/2013 at 6:22 am

    Hi, Just wanted to say thanks for the opportunity to revisit the testimony. I watched it live on my computer…(which I find amazing because I’m all the way over the pond in the UK!) But this case has really caught my attention. I love the USA, I work for a US company and visit often, I also have very good friends I vist every year socially. I am fascinated by this girls narcissism. She is so confident in her own lies and ability to run this courtroom it’s staggering! If you hadn’t seen the autopsy pics and didn’t know the viciousness with which she slaughtered him…and I believe slaughter is the appropriate word…you would think butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth. Juan must keep these images prevelant in the jury’s mind. This wasn’t by any means a fight to enable her to flee from an abusive situation, this was overkill. Whichever way you order the events she either, shot him, stabbed him in the heart and back? and then mutilated an already incapacitated man. Or Tortured him with mutiple stab wounds before finally shooting an already still body not capable of hurting her further. She then lies for years, until finally realising that the forensic evidence was going to nail her before admitting that she did it…ahhhh but then there’s a caveat….Now I will murder him all over again by mutilating his reputation and destroying anything he has left. I hope for Travis and his family that Juan shouts loudly at her and gives Travis back his voice that she took away when she sliced his throat.

  72. Laine
    02/23/2013 at 6:30 am

    Oh I meant to ask before I got carried away with my opinion! Could you please tell me what an interlocutory appeal is donchais? I’m not sure I understand what the defence were trying to do. Many thanks!

    • donchais
      02/23/2013 at 7:52 am

      It’s an appeal of a ruling by a trial court that is made before the trial itself has concluded. Basically Nurmi wanted the death penalty thrown out.

  73. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 9:15 am

    Chrissie A :
    Whoa! Does this woman think she is on a quiz show? Maybe someone should remind her that she is on trial for murder!
    Today when Juan stated that, “You are a practicing Mormon aren’t you?” She replied, “Sort of” Hopefully that has opened the eyes of the one rumored Mormon juror. (Which if true I feel could be a detriment to the prosecution.)

    I had to laugh when you compared Jodi to a contestant on a quiz show. You are so right. She acts like she’s a contestant on “Let’s Outsmart the Prosecutor” instead of on trial for murder.

    Thanks for pointing out Miss Smarty Pants admitted she was “sort of” a practicing Mormon because I missed it. That surprised me because she spent seven days trying to convince the jury that she was this devout little LDS (Mormon) girl who believed she was following the Law of Chastity that forbids sex outside of marriage but this Sexual Deviant Abusive Mormon elder told her they weren’t so she just did what Travis said. She talked about going to church and wanting to tell her bishop about the sex but Travis told her not to.

    Abe Abelhadi told the media she told him she was “dabbling in Mormonism.” Sky Hughes said on the stand Jodi told friends she got baptised for Travis.

    I’m LDS and any LDS juror would know she was not a practicing Mormon because she admitted to not giving up premarital sex or coffee, which are prohibited in our religion. No practicing Mormon would commit murder, the ultimate sin, and sit up there on the stand and recount every sexual act she performed and accuse a man she professed to love of the unspeakable crime of pedophilia. She should have plead guilty and begged for the death penalty.

    I’m sure she has been excommunicated from the LDS Church and is now dabbling in some other religion.

  74. PK
    02/23/2013 at 9:28 am

    Observer :
    The LDS Church would not make a statement regarding a murder trial. I don’t know for sure if she was excommunicated but I suspect she was. She testified that after Travis died she confessed to her bishop about the premarital sex but not the murder. Sex outside of marriage is grounds for excommunication. Even if she blamed it all on Travis and she repented, the bishop would most likely have excommunicated her after she was arrested in July 2008 for stabbing an LDS elder 27 times, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head. I am sure her name was erased from church rolls.

    Though I am no longer an active Mormon, I was a Missionary in Austria from ’61-’63 and BYU ’67. Excommunication from the Mormon Church requires a very lengthy process that can take many years and does not occur very often. Disfellowship, a lesser punishment for disobeying the Church teachings and/or commandments, occurs far more frequently. I’m not aware that Ted Bundy was ever excommunicated before he converted to Buddhism prior to his execution and Mark Hoffman, a lifer in the Utah State Pen for multiple capital murders was not excommunicated and he went so far as to blaspheme the Church (most serious of all offenses) when he presented a “fake” document to the Church that had Joseph Smith communicating with a salamander – still not as hard to believe (me included) as Joseph Smith talking to God, Jesus Christ and the Angel Moroni in the woods near Palmyra, NY.

    So I suspect JA has not and likely will not be excommunicated, but even if she ever is, she can get back into the Church after she is put to death in one of the Temple ceremonies for the dead (occur daily in the Mormon Temples throughout the world) to give everybody an opportunity to become Mormon (even after excommunication) via baptism, even for the worst of the worst who ever lived, including the likes of Al Capone, Ivan the Terrible, and on and on. The Mormon Church keeps very good records of both the living and the dead.

  75. PK
    02/23/2013 at 9:41 am

    Mitt Romney was never excommunicated either after the 2002 Winter Olympics for spewing out the F bomb more times in the Month of February, 2002, than JA and TA probably ever did collectively. I worked with him daily during all of the events. Mormon and hypocrite are two words the complement each other quite well, IMO.

  76. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 10:28 am

    Chrissie, an LDS juror will fry her. She gives Mormons a bad name.

  77. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 10:44 am

    I know Mormons who were ex communicated for premarital sex and adultry and it happened very quickly. It depends on the bishop. It is obvious that Jodi only joined the church because she knew Travis Alexander would never date or marry a non Mormon. She even testified that her family didn’t want her to join the church. Now he is dead, she has no interest in Mormonism.

  78. PK
    02/23/2013 at 11:58 am

    “Excommunication is the most serious form of LDS Church discipline and must be decided by a Church Court. Excommunication is only possible in cases of murder, adultery, plural marriage (polygamy), incest, having apostatized and become openly antagonistic against the Church, abortion, having a transsexual operation, attempted murder, rape, forcible sexual abuse, intentionally inflicting serious physical injuries on others, fornication, homosexual relationships, child abuse (sexual or physical), spouse abuse, deliberate abandonment of family responsibilities, robbery, burglary, embezzlement, theft, sale of illegal drugs, fraud, or perjury. Those who hold leadership positions in the Church are held to a higher standard than recent converts or younger members. Teens and young adults are very rarely excommunicated for these behaviors, they are usually put on probation.”

    An LDS Church Court – not a Bishop – is in no position to place any one or the above listed transgressions above any other (with the exception openly antagonistic actions against the Church) hence if excommunication was a common practice circa the 21st century, the LDS Church population numbers would have to be reduced significantly. Hundreds of abortions are performed on “active” LDS women in Salt Lake County alone each year. Fornication is almost as popular on the BYU campus and Jello. And on and on! Like I stated earlier, Mormom and hypocrite complement each other quite well. Ditto Babtist and hypocrite – I live in the Deep South now – and every other religious sect for that matter.

  79. MMD
    02/23/2013 at 1:01 pm

    OMG, I was actually speechless for a while, and for me, that is something!!!!! I set up a google alert for the JA trial and was sorting through the various reports that popped up. I discovered a site which has a tremendous amount of commenters, who actually think that this LOON is innocent (no offence to the bird) and that Squirmy Nurmie is doing an awesome job!!! I just read for a couple of minutes with my jaw hanging down in utter disbelief!!!! I truly couldn’t believe what the people on there were saying. I don’t even know what to say, I’m so horrified………………………..

    I know it takes all kinds and maybe these are the people who become pen pals or want to marry serial killers, which I’ve never understood. I firmly believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion but all these people feeding off each others comments………………………..?????

    I got off that site soooooooooooooo quickly but I’m still in utter disbelief!!!!!

    • Pam
      02/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

      The site is for sordid people. I’ve read it before to see what the crazies were up to. There is a link on there to give JA a supportive comment. I would like to click on it and tell her what I think of her, being the mother or three young men, but I refrained from doing so. I did not want my e-mail address associated with it. This world is filled with all kinds but we know that by looking at this sinister creature. I just hope the jury see her for what she really is….a cold blooded murderer.

      • donchais
        02/23/2013 at 5:48 pm

        Lol Pam….contrary comments are deleted fairly quickly!!!

      • Pam
        02/23/2013 at 5:51 pm

        Thought so…..: – )

  80. MMD
    02/23/2013 at 1:25 pm

    Anybody else hit that site by mistake? Any explanations?????????????????????

  81. PK
    02/23/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Observer :
    Chrissie, an LDS juror will fry her. She gives Mormons a bad name.

    And all of the openly polygamist families living as close as the avenues behind the Salt Lake Temple surely give the LDS Church a bad name, as well. And let us not forget the polygamist family – just one of many throughout Utah County (includes the BYU Campus) that even has a reality TV show. Giving Mormons a bad name for whatever reason has become too easy to fret about. I learned that first hand on my Mission.

  82. ritanita
    02/23/2013 at 1:43 pm

    vivian Deutsch :
    when is that judge going to tell her she should abswer with no smrking no laughing and to show respect in her court!! I hhav in all my 79 years have seen such disresect for a court! It is up to you judge to let her know that it is your courtroom, Not hers!!Tell her to answer the guestion>>>>>> and to stop smirking!! Doed she think she can con the whole court room?
    you have allowed her too!!I can only conclude that you are a liberal judge!! May the lord save us from people like you.

    There have been objections from time to time from Nurmi and the judge has ruled on them, primarily for the prosecution.

    Ms. Arias’ testimony and her attitude are not going to be subject of the judge’s admonitions. Jodi can testify any way she likes. It is her constitutional right.

    We don’t like her, but her behavior is a positive for the prosecution as it shows the real Jodi, to some degree as a number of people have mentioned here.

  83. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    MMD, do you mean the Jodi Arias is Innocent site? I’ve heard of it but never read it. I heard it was started by a woman who believes all criminals are innocent and framed by law enforcement and prosecutors. Murderers always attract groupies who are as delusional as they are. I have never understood these people who marry murderers behind bars knowing they will never get out.

    • donchais
      02/23/2013 at 2:19 pm

      It is believed this site was started by the same person who began the Casey Anthony is Innocent site. Crazies unleashed!

  84. Anonymous
    02/23/2013 at 2:39 pm

    donchais, a huge thank you for your coverage! I’m in Canada and Thank God for pvrs but I’ve missed a lot and your reporting helped a ton.

    Ok, one thing driving me absolutely nuts, what did she do to the engine in Travis’ car? I’ve looked everywhere!

  85. Lisa M
    02/23/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Does anyone have any information about this hearing that occurred on whether or not the alleged pedophilia should be allowed into the courtroom? I’m a little bit confused. I heard that there were forged letters, and I’m assuming they were written by Jodi or by a friend of hers and were supposedly by Travis and referred to this bogus pedophilia claim. Is that true? And secondly, if that is true, why on earth would this pedophilia claim be allowed? How could a judge say it’s okay for her defense to bring up this pedophilia thing if she forged letters about it? I’m so confused.

  86. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Donhais, crazies unleashed is right. I went into the Jodi Arias is innocent site to see if the blogger had the guts to reveal her name but all I found under About Us was that they are the number 1 Jodi Arias support site. I hope they are the only one. I burst out laughing when I read this on yesterday’s Jodi is Innocent blog: “Not only has Martinez tried (once again) to prove that battered woman syndrome doesn’t exist — and in turn belittled every single abuse victim out there — but he’s now trying to do the same with memory loss. So what about next week? Will he try and prove cancer doesn’t exist too?” LOL Jodi is making a mockery out of battered woman syndrome by pretending to be one. Everyone is laughing at Jodi’s make believe stories but the crazies who are fawning over her like she is a rock star.

    • janet
      02/23/2013 at 5:36 pm

      I just went to that site also! It’s crazy how many supporters for her are out there, & all the loony comments that she’s a HERO for abused women!!! They actually trashed Travis as bad as she has. One even claiming to know both of them!! It amazes me how they think murder or “slaughter” is what Travis deserved!! They have their own opinions, but I can’t see how they can’t see she’s a pathological liar!! Av And bashing Martinez like crazy!

      • donchais
        02/23/2013 at 5:51 pm

        Will say again, crazies unleashed!!! In fact, it could be just a few folks using multiple names…quite easy to do!!!

      • janet
        02/23/2013 at 6:26 pm

        I could see that. Maybe that’s what’s happening. Especially if other comments that don’t agree with them are deleted. I wanted to so bad, but didn’t want them to have any info of mine so I didn’t. Keep up the great work donchais!! Can’t wait till Mondays report! 🙂

      • donchais
        02/23/2013 at 6:36 pm

        Watch tomorrow for explanation of the pedo thing…just taking a bit of review of the day and time to put together..sorry for the delay…bit sleepy…

      • janet
        02/23/2013 at 6:44 pm

        Understood. Will look forward to it tomorrow. 🙂

  87. MMD
    02/23/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Observer and Donchais – yes that could very well be the site. To tell you the truth I didn’t even look at the name because I was so stunned at what I saw in the articles. It was kind of like jamming your finger in a car door – first you’re shocked and then all you want is out. I even ran a scan on my computer that would have deleted my history, etc.

    Crazies indeed because we certainly know that Casey Anthony is definitely NOT INNOCENT! I’m still surprised and not happy with that verdict. Then again, look at OJ, I understand rationally why he was not convicted but I don’t agree with it. At least Nevada was not quite so star stuck.

  88. 02/23/2013 at 3:14 pm

    Sorry. I tried to post earlier and apparently did something wrong.

    Thank you so much donchais for your reporting. I live in Canada and although I pvr the trial and have absolutely no life outside of work and the trial now, I’m still lost on some things.

    Can someone please tell me what happened to Travis’ car engine when she loaded it into the U-Haul? (not even sure I have that completely correct)


  89. PK
    02/23/2013 at 3:20 pm

    The lengths some people will go for attention in unlimited. Crazies unleashed is just one example.

    I must admit that there are facts – not often considering who the defendant is – that actually remind me of my years at BYU. In this case, JA was desperate to be with TA for time and all eternity via marriage in the Temple. When that didn’t happen as JA so desperately hoped it would, she carefully orchestrated his murder for not fulfilling her dreams.

    Now by way of example, many, many LDS girls who did not join the Church just to be with a Mormon guy arrive on the BYU Campus every fall as naive freshmen with a one semester MRS. degree as their prime goal. Many succeed one way or another, but many are used and abused via any number of horny returned missionaries, star athletes, etc., until time or tuition money runs out and it’s time to leave Happy Valley and go home unchaste and alone. Fortunately, BYU admissions does a fine job screening out sociopaths and psychopaths before they could possibly do the many, many BYU Horny Toads any serious harm.

  90. Alasia
    02/23/2013 at 4:45 pm

    I have missed some of the trial however I surely hope she gets what she deserves. She is an arrogant evil woman who thinks she can beat the system. Let’s just pray the jury sees through her many lies. My heart goes out to Travis Alexander’s family for having to hear her tear their brothers reputation apart. If it were up to me she would be put to death.

  91. donchais
    02/23/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Anon and Janet…she had an agreement to purchace the car and was pulling the car on a tow rack, if I understand correctly, it was leaking oil, which she didn’t realize or notice. Engine blown!

  92. donchais
    02/23/2013 at 5:20 pm

    Lisa M…will put up a special edition tomorrow detailing the whole sordid thing…be on the watch!

  93. MMD
    02/23/2013 at 6:08 pm

    I’m so glad that so many of you feel the same way I did when I accidentally landed on that site full of loons (and once again, no offence to the bird) who support the other loon.

    Janet, that is what surprised me the most was the amount of comments – pushing 1,000 for an article.

    Pam, that’s why I did a scan on my laptop. I felt dirty and like I needed a bath and since I was ready showered I gave the equivalent to my computer.

    Donchais has it right, crazies unleashed!! ,

    • donchais
      02/23/2013 at 6:16 pm


    • janet
      02/23/2013 at 6:32 pm

      Lol! I thought I was being silly in clearing my history on my lap top! I really felt yucky being there! Creepy! Sure won’t go there again!!

  94. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 6:19 pm

    Jodi Arias blew the engine in Travis’s Mercedes and Travis didn’t kill her. Jodi slashed his tires twice and he didn’t kill her. Jodi slashed Lisa’s tires and he didn’t kill her. Jodi peeked into his windows when he had girls at his house and confronted him and he didn’t kill her. Jodi hacked into his bank account and he didn’t kill her. Jodi hacked into his facebook and contacted all the girls he dated and told them not to date him and he didn’t kill her. But he threatens to kill her when she drops his camera? The camera was dropped while she was slashing him to death and he was begging her to stop. All because if she couldn’t have him, no one else could.

    • Pam
      02/23/2013 at 6:24 pm

      Very good observation.

    • janet
      02/23/2013 at 6:40 pm

      Thanks for the info. I agree! All the things he could have killed her for & then a camera? How stupid does she think everyone is? Well, we’re talking miss know it all! It’s a shame they can’t prove she slashed the tires though! The detective said that on 48 hours. 😦

      • donchais
        02/23/2013 at 6:45 pm

        If they had the actual proof it was her they would have brought it in!

  95. Chrissie A
    02/23/2013 at 6:59 pm

    MMD :
    Janet, that is what surprised me the most was the amount of comments – pushing 1,000 for an article.

    MMD – They are probably using Fiverr – a service that promotes and adds superficial numbers to blogs etc. I’ve seen the site heavily promoted in the comments section on HuffingtonPost – it wouldn’t surprise me if one of the media companies are behind it as they love to have an us against them scenario these days.

    • janet
      02/23/2013 at 7:31 pm

      Chrissie A. – good point!

  96. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 7:04 pm

    The jury still heard about Jodi slashing his tires and stalking him from the caller on the 911 tape. And the jury asked Lisa if she said Jodi was Travis stalker. Both the 911 tape and Flores first interrogation are great evidence to Jodi’s stalking. The 911 operator asks the female reporting Travis murder if she know of anyone who would want to kill him and she says, “yes, an ex girlfriend of his. She’s been slashing his tires and stalking him” She asks another girl the ex girlfriend’s name and she says Jodi. In his first interrogation Flores asks Jodi if she killed Travis out of jealousy. And she says “no, I wasn’t jealous. Travis was.” Then he asked her why all their mutual friends said she was jealous and said look at Jodi as the killer. Little Miss Innocent said, “I don’t know why they’d say that.”

    • janet
      02/23/2013 at 7:36 pm

      I forgot about the tires mentioned on the 911 call!! Good catch Observer!!

  97. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 7:41 pm

    Chris and Sky Hughes told 48 Hours that they realized early on that something was wrong with Jodi and they refused to allow her in their house around their children. They said Travis used to meet Jodi at their house in Utah and that Jodi would suck on his ear and kiss his neck and cling to him. One night after Jodi went to bed, they tried to warn Travis about her and realized Jodi was outside the door listening. Finally, Jodi knocked on the door and came in and Sky said the look in Jodi’s eyes scared her and they told Travis not to bring her around. I noticed her eyes in 48 hours looked like empty black holes. They say the eyes are the window to the soul. Her soul is black as coal.

  98. MMD
    02/23/2013 at 7:47 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    Janet, that is what surprised me the most was the amount of comments – pushing 1,000 for an article.

    MMD – They are probably using Fiverr – a service that promotes and adds superficial numbers to blogs etc. I’ve seen the site heavily promoted in the comments section on HuffingtonPost – it wouldn’t surprise me if one of the media companies are behind it as they love to have an us against them scenario these days.

    Never heard of it but it would be nice to know that there are a few less “crazies unleashed” out there. 🙂

    • janet
      02/23/2013 at 8:24 pm

      True! We don’t need more of the JA’s out there! 🙂

  99. 02/23/2013 at 8:53 pm

    JA almost had a “slip of the tongue” while describing the killing to Nurmi. I thought this is what I heard during the live testimony but wasn’t sure. I just went back and listened to it again on one of the YouTube videos of the trial. Someone else do this as well and tell me if you hear it also..
    At the point that she is saying he body slammed me..i rolled to my left and started running..”and I could hear him fa…I mean I could hear his footsteps.” Doesn’t it sound like she almost says I heard him fall?? At another point she says “He just wouldn’t stop..he just wouldn’t stop”. I wonder if she is in realty declaring that he just wouldn’t die, how he kept fighting to live and trying to fight back?? Which just ring true with what the medical examiner described.

  100. 02/23/2013 at 10:27 pm

    PK writes…….
    “Mormom and hypocrite complement each other quite well. Ditto Babtist and hypocrite – I live in the Deep South now – and every other religious sect for that matter..”.

    Now, Hold on there, Bobba-Louey(PK)….that’s going a bit too far. Don’t you think? This isn’t the place for religous debate.There are hypocrites in every religion. Don’t lump us all in the same sack. Some people find staying within the guidelines more difficult to adhere to. That doesn’t make them all hypocrites…just sinners. Not perfect, just forgiven, right?
    Now……Isn’t this supposed to be about the Jodi Arias trial???????

  101. Observer
    02/23/2013 at 11:33 pm

    The time stamped pictures in the camera and forensics tell the story of what happened. The camera was probably on a strap around her neck when she attacked him with the knife because it kept taking pictures during the attack. The last picture of Travis alive he was sitting in the shower and the next picture was of the ceiling and the last picture was of Travis lying on the floor with his throat slashed and Jodi’s shoe and pantleg in the corner of the picture showing she was standing over him. There was only a minute and a half between the last picture of him alive and the picture of him with his throat slashed from ear to ear.

    The blood evidence shows the attack started in the shower and ended at the end of the hallway going to the bedroom. She lured him into the bathroom on the pretense of taking pictures of his physique, then when he turned his back for a second, she thrust the knife into his back and it went through to the ribs and it knocked him to his knees. He started losing blood and strength and tried to crawl down the hallway to the bedroom for his phone. She kept stabbing him in the back until he lost so much blood he collapsed and either fell over or she rolled him over and kept stabbing him in the chest, which accounts for the defensive wounds. Then she thrust the knife in his heart and slit his throat and got out the gun and shot him right through the eyes. Then she dragged him back to the shower and washed him off and cleaned up the scene.

    Either the knife through his heart or the cutting of the throat from ear to ear would have killed him. I think she might have known he was dead after she slit his throat but shot him in the head to make it look like there were two assailants. When Flores told her they had her bloody fingerprints and naked pictures of her taken June 4 proving she was there when Travis was killed she tells the story of two assailants – one wielding a knife and one a gun – “who were there to kill Travis” and “were arguing over what to do with me.” I think that was a slip of the tongue and proof SHE went there to kill Travis. I found it interesting that she said the female ninja had the knife and the male ninja had the gun. I think she used the knife because she wanted to unleash her rage and make sure he suffered for rejecting her. She knew he would die instantly if she shot him in the back of the head as he sat in the chair with his back turned or as he slept next to her. She planned the attack when he was naked, defenseless, trapped in the shower and she knew his roommates were gone. She wanted him to see her rage, feel her pain and her face be the last face he saw. This was a crime of rage by a woman scorned.

    I’m sure she brought her own knife as well as her grandfather’s stolen 45 mm gun because when she was arrested they found a 9 mm gun she had just bought and two knives in the rental car she was packing to go on the run. She knew any day she would be arrested.

  102. Lisa M
    02/24/2013 at 12:08 am

    These are just a couple of questions I want Martinez to ask Jody.
    First: If you came out of your blackout in the desert and had no memory of killing Travis but knew something had happened because you had blood on your hands and a gun with you, why wouldn’t you turn around and go back to check in Travis or call to have someone check on him? He could have still been alive.
    Second: Why didn’t u take the camera with you? Was it because you knew that if Travis’ s camera was missing you’d be a suspect because everyone knew you were a photographer? Why did you take the gun if you left the knife? Was it because it was the same gun stolen from your grandparents and you knew it would be linked to you?

  103. Lisa M
    02/24/2013 at 12:21 am

    Thank u- I will be on the watch for that info tomorrow, about what you so appropriately called a sordid affair!
    And Observer, I agree with ur comments regarding all the things that Jodi did to Travis for which he never lashed out at her for and of course everything she says he did is a lie. The real kicker though is her claim that Travis called her a f-ing bitch and said he was going to kill her AFTER he was shot in the head!! And that she was scared for her life in her own words “for sure”! Does the defense actually think this is plausible? It’s the most farfetched defense ever!!

  104. Bethany
    02/24/2013 at 12:35 am

    It’s interesting how so many people are comparing her to Casey Anthony. The cases are completely different. In the Anthony case the main thing that kept the jurors from convoying her was the cause of death. The coroner was unable to find a cause of death whereas in this case the cause of death is known. Also, Casey never admitted to killing her daughter and Jodi eventually did admit to killing Travis. However, I do see the similarities between the two now that so many people have pointed them out. I agree with everyone when they said Jodi buried herself on the witness stand with her disrespectful behavior toward the prosecution. She came off too cocky. I give props to Martinez! He did an excellent job of contradicting her stories.

  105. Bethany
    02/24/2013 at 12:52 am

    This is a question about the engine in travis’ car that Jodi blew the engine on…I understand that there was oil leaking and she didn’t realize that, but how did she blow the engine if she was towing it and the engine wasn’t running? Is there something I’m missing?

  106. Bethany
    02/24/2013 at 1:37 am

    I was browsing through various websites discussing Jodi and this one caught my eye so I started reading commentary about her and someone posted a comment about the look in her eyes in the picture her at the top of the website with Juan Martinez in it. The look in her eyes it completely scary she totally looks Evil. I posted a link to the website if anyone wants to check it out. Hopefully it will work


  107. 02/24/2013 at 4:11 am

    The Jodi Arias Is Innocent website is pathetic. I’ve been known to let my curiosity get the best of me sometimes and to show you just how twisted they are, they ignore all the evidence against Jodi and will blatantly claim that the defense is doing a great job. They ignore the text messages, the magazine, the diary — no one will comment on any of that stuff and they just focus on how great a job Jodi did on the stand going toe to toe with Martinez despite the fact that her combative nature on the stand does not bode well for her. They are all totally in la la land.

    When I first read that site I got the impression that they are out for publicity and will just support any criminal whom they feel is the underdog — despite whether they are guilty or not. Yes, they were big supporters of Casey Anthony as well.

    And as someone mentioned earlier (I think it was Donchais), if you do post anything on that site that’s against Jodi, it will be deleted. They have let a few posts come in from people who believe she is guilty but those are closely monitored and kept to a minimum but for the most part if you are against Jodi then you are a hater.

  108. Lisa M
    02/24/2013 at 4:47 am

    I think Martinez is brilliant because he stays the course. He is not perfect but I think he will get away with his “aggressive” behavior because he’s not a big guy. He also doesn’t pander to the jury. I think they’ll respect that. I think Nurmi hates him because he’s smart and tough and he won’t back down. He is fearless.
    The other thing he does that is smart is he knows when to move on. At first I was worried he’d argue with her too much over the minutiae and she’d “win” but I notice that he will argue a little but realize when he needs to drop something and move on. He’s focused on giving the jury the information they need, not winning a silly argument with her. The whole thing about changing cars and whose car she had etc. — he didn’t press her too much because he’d already showed the texts and phone calls to cast doubt on her assertion that Travis had barraged her with phone calls and she hadn’t responded so he didn’t get bogged down beyond that. So I’m confident he’ll win a first degree conviction provided nothing crazy happens before the end of trial and we don’t have any loony jurors.

  109. Laine
    02/24/2013 at 7:14 am

    donchais :It’s an appeal of a ruling by a trial court that is made before the trial itself has concluded. Basically Nurmi wanted the death penalty thrown out.

    Thanks Donchais, appreciated.

  110. Laine
    02/24/2013 at 7:19 am

    Observer :Jodi Arias blew the engine in Travis’s Mercedes and Travis didn’t kill her. Jodi slashed his tires twice and he didn’t kill her. Jodi slashed Lisa’s tires and he didn’t kill her. Jodi peeked into his windows when he had girls at his house and confronted him and he didn’t kill her. Jodi hacked into his bank account and he didn’t kill her. Jodi hacked into his facebook and contacted all the girls he dated and told them not to date him and he didn’t kill her. But he threatens to kill her when she drops his camera? The camera was dropped while she was slashing him to death and he was begging her to stop. All because if she couldn’t have him, no one else could.

    When put in this context, thats very compelling. Thanks!
    But I wonder if the reason she got mad wasn’t because she couldn’t have him…(she clearly could and was still “having him” but in her own words from the 48hrs interview, he wouldn’t marry her.She wanted all of him and I think that day he made it very clear she wasn’t going to get it. I don’t think she could stand the thought someone else would.

  111. janetlynn
    02/24/2013 at 7:31 am

    I have to say if anything does go horribly wrong in this trial or some juror gets it wrong, I’m done with watching high profile trials. I’m a criminal courtroom clerk in Canada and see my fair share of the bizarre but I find it interesting to watch the American process.

    I was on mat leave for O.J., felt like I was kicked in the stomach. Casey Anthony, the verdict came in while I was in Court. No one would call in to tell me because I could have very easily lost it the courtroom and that’s frowned upon :). Even typing that I wanted to throw something.

    What are your thoughts on the “double jeopardy” rule? It doesn’t exist here. The Crown here can appeal a not guilty verdict, jury or non-jury. Personally, I believe it is in the best interests of the public to be able to appeal a not guilty verdict. Imagine JA being found not guilty and walking out of the courtroom with that smirk on her face and laughing she got away with murder. It just boggles my mind.

  112. janetlynn
    02/24/2013 at 7:33 am

    and thanks donchais for info on the car!

  113. Lu
    02/24/2013 at 8:29 am

    The Jodi Arias is innocent website is for idiots that have no one to talk to that agree with their twisted ideas about this case. What SJ (the owner of the website) encourages is name calling of the victim, his family, his friends and the prosecutor. They sound like a bunch of gossiping teenages. SJ will delete your posts if it is anti their mentality and will actually block you from the website. According to these people, what Jodi says is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. PLEASE help them God!!!!! They ignore all the evidence and don’t even want to discuss it. There is no proof that Jodi was a battered woman and no proof she positively with no doubt killed him is self defense, except for Jodi’s word and that is all they need. Everyone and everything that points in any other direction is not the truth if it does not help Jodi. Really? What a bunch of narrow minded people. Hope the jury is not infected with one.

  114. janetlynn
    02/24/2013 at 9:05 am

    ok, ok, ok, donchais, I’m going to drive you nuts til I have it all. I apologize in advance.

    I’m watching youtube videos of her interrogations. At one point when she says she wanted to get pics of him shaving she says cause “he does it the old fashioned way”. Straight razor? Has that been explored? The slash to the throat makes sense with one. I realize they would have found that it was missing if he used one but has it been explored?

    • donchais
      02/24/2013 at 9:09 am

      The slash to the throat was definitely by a knife.

  115. janetlynn
    02/24/2013 at 11:32 am

    Thank you

  116. PK
    02/24/2013 at 12:29 pm

    debnal :
    PK writes…….
    “Mormom and hypocrite complement each other quite well. Ditto Baptist and hypocrite – I
    live in the Deep South now – and every other religious sect for that matter..”.
    Now, Hold on there, Bobba-Louey(PK)….that’s going a bit too far. Don’t you think? This isn’t the place for religous debate.There are hypocrites in every religion. Don’t lump us all in the same sack. Some people find staying within the guidelines more difficult to adhere to. That doesn’t make them all hypocrites…just sinners. Not perfect, just forgiven, right?
    Now……Isn’t this supposed to be about the Jodi Arias trial???????

    Apparently debnal (whatever religion you practice, if any) you totally missed my point.. The trial is no place to bring religion – any religion – into play. What does Travis being a Mormon have to do with anything. Ditto Jodi who, in addition to satisfying TA’s sexual fantasies, joined his church just to please him. Mormons are assumend to be true to the letter of the scriptures or they deserve the wrath of a nut case, right? Not in the real world. My Momma, a devout Mormon said it best, “You can’t judge a church by the people in it.” So true. So why include anything having to do with the Mormon Church as being in any way relevant to this Capital Murder case.

    Additionally, I made the comments you reference to counter one poster stating that a Mormon juror would want the have JA put to death for giving the Mormon Church a bad name. That comment is as disingenuous as Jodi stating she has no recollection of stabbing TA 29 times. This is a murder trial, not a Mormon Church inquest!

  117. jad
    02/25/2013 at 6:54 am

    In order to understand the case [of the State of Arizona versus Jodi Arias] more fully, one has to know the timeline. The most important timeline is that which consists of the interviews between Jodi Arias and Detective Esteban Flores. The reason for that is due to the fact that it is no longer that necessary to follow the timeline of events surrounding the comings and goings of Jodi Arias in order to prove she murdered Travis Alexander [although the particulars should be known and mapped out]. That is because this has already been established as an absolute fact — she murdered Travis Alexander.

    Jodi Arias has already confessed to the killing. Therefore, there is no longer a need to prove she did it. She said she did it, and that is that. She can not now cry out that what she offered was a false confession. There were no Law Enforcement Officers for the State or members of the prosecution by her side stridently demanding she confess to a crime to make her plead guilty out of sheer terror, exhaustion, or humiliation. She was surrounded by the lawyers with her own defense team when making the decision to come clean about her role in the brutal murder. There can be no claim to a false confession now. The facts would speak for themselves in that instance, which would show that the confession of Jodi Arias was freely and voluntarily made without coercion, threat, fear, or intimidation.

    The Jury has heard the confession. This case is not a “who done it”. The Jurors already know “who done it” or who the perpetrator of this foul deed is. They know it is Jodi Arias who slaughtered Travis Alexander because she, herself, admitted she was the killer. It is as simple as that.

    What is not so simple is making the Jurors recognize the facts of the case that prove premeditation. The prosecutor would like to believe that the State has given the Jurors everything they need to show premeditation. That may be so. Regardless, because of the way the matter was presented, there is another obstacle that the prosecutor must overcome. In the confession presented by Jodi Arias, she declared her act of murder was not of rage, was not of passion in the heat of the moment, and certainly was not of a defensive position in an already begun physical altercation — but was in defense of herself strictly relying on fear of the moment and panic.

    Jodi Arias has thrown herself on the mercy of (at least one of) the Jurors with a defense that has been recognized for some time — battered woman’s syndrome. The States now recognize the Right of a woman to protect herself from [the threat of or actual] acts of domestic violence. No longer are the Laws drawn in such a way that there is a grant of allowance for a man to force his significant other into any act of gratification — otherwise known as spousal rape, wherein this violation of a woman’s body and mind had been permitted as a man’s prerogative in many of the States until just within this past generation. No longer is a day when man is King of the Castle with the Right to Rule of Thumb. In other words, a man does not maintain an inherent Right to dominate all of a woman’s Rights with the threat of a beating by any object so long as it is no wider than the man’s thumb. Those Common Law practices are no longer acceptable and the Law replaced.

    Today, any act of domestic violence is treated as a crime. So, a man can no longer get away with bullying tactics or instilling fear in a woman. As a matter of course — with any and all persons treated equally under the Law, regardless of gender — these Laws must work for the benefit of men also. Whether male or female (or in some cases both males or both females), in order to convict for an act of domestic violence, besides the act of violence itself, all the accuser has to prove in most States is that the persons enmeshed in the contact are immediate family members or unrelated persons who have been residing together for a certain amount of time. Some States have Laws on the [Statute] Books that let the State charge a domestic violence offense even when the parties no longer reside together under one roof. Of course, it is a much harder case to have a successful prosecution because the State has to actually prove that it is a matter of no consequence that one of the partners or a former partner has moved away and lives in another part of town or another part of the State.

    In a case where one of the partners has moved out of the State, the Law regarding domestic violence would be in whichever State the violent act or abuse occurred. Nevertheless, when a family or household member has received an Order of Protection from one specific State, full faith and credit is afforded that person’s Order throughout the several States of the United States [pursuant to Section 2265 of Title 18 of the United States Code]. So, if a couple living in Arizona were to break up, and one of the former domestic partners moves to someplace, like [Northern] California, with a subsequent incident of domestic violence occurring in Arizona [without benefit of an Order of Protection from the State of domicile], there would be no recognition of the California Law in the charging [or accusatory] instrument. Under that circumstance, if an Information were filed in Arizona charging a person for acting contrary to the Domestic Violence Law, that Law would be the one in effect in Arizona (NOT the California Law).

    The question could be asked “What does this have to do with the ongoing case that Arizona is pursuing against Jodi Arias?”. The simple answer is “Absolutely nothing”, since no one has been charged with an act of domestic violence, and no person should now be able to make a retroactive claim under that Law [according to the facts of the case before the Court]. (Remember that all domestic violence acts are treated as crimes; and, therefore, a remedy or recourse by the prosecuting authority can not be found in the civil arena. A person charged with a crime must be able to face his accuser, but when one is deceased that is an impossibility. Needless to say, if there has indeed been an act of abuse, the Claimant could still pursue a civil action, although, if there ever were a case for Jodi Arias, the Statute of Repose over the exacting matter she could try to lay-out would not permit such an absurdity.) More to the point is that none of the parties in the case or the victim could have been charged with an act of domestic violence against any one of them because neither the victim, nor the defendant party [Jodi Arias, or a person representing the State as a plaintiff party] have ever resided together in the prescribed manner. You see, to claim such an offense, both the person who is perpetrating the criminal act involving domestic violence and the victim of the alleged act must reside together or have resided together in the immediate past — in order for the assault, the battery, the threat of an assault or a battery, or the related stalking charge or other type of associated crime to be considered in the category of domestic violence.

    To make a claim as a victim involving a Domestic Violence Act, the persons involved in the altercation must have a deeper bond than simply knowing each other, haphazardly seeing each other, and occasionally sleeping over at one of the residences. They have to reside together in a particular fashion. What is considered residing together (under that specific category of the Law) is similar or the same in several of the States, when describing exactly who could be determined a household member [in establishing the residency requirement]. The Law has defined a “family or household member” to usually mean “spouses, former spouses, persons related by blood or marriage, persons who are presently residing together as if a family or who have resided together in the past as if a family, and persons who have a child in common regardless of whether they have been married or have resided together at any time”. A person recognized as a “family or household member” has every opportunity to not only have the perpetrator arrested but to ask for and receive an Order of Protection from the State where the abuse occurred. So, if Jodi Arias could have claimed herself as a victim of domestic violence and had received an Order of Protection where the abuse was alleged to have occurred [in Arizona], this Order would have protected her in her home State of California, as well as where the abuse would have been alleged to have occurred in the State of Arizona, and any other State in the Union.

    If she were a “family or household member” through a recognized living arrangement with Travis Alexander, she could have requested this Order at any time, even though she no longer resided in the State where she has intimated the abuse by Travis Alexander ostensibly had occurred. Different States have different lengths of time to request this specific type of an Order. This extended period of time is useful for the abuse victim since many who live in an abusive situation do not recognize they are being abused. For instance, an outsider may notice that his friend’s car’s tires were slashed by the friend’s girlfriend and cognitively relate it to danger, while the abuse victim, deeply in love or under a sexual fog, could interpret the slashing of the tires to have meant his girlfriend did not know what else to do to get his attention and acted out of frustration, which would not be viewed as a danger to his life. This is especially so when acting to protect the abuser because the abuser constantly makes threats of suicide, which was the case in the relationship that was Travis Alexander and Jodi Arias. However, the Jury may not equate this because Jodi Arias has only provided testimony about attempts [that are nothing more than mere threats for attention] at suicide after the fact, not continuing throughout her relationship with Travis Alexander.

    The cognitive dissonance exhibited by Travis Alexander can not be equated, by the Jurors, to a fear that his girlfriend would commit suicide if he did not constantly provide for her and continue to offer his support. So, the Jury is left to their own devices to understand exactly why Travis Alexander would stay with Jodi Arias and vice-versa, if domestic violence were the issue. Then again, even though there seems to have been some form of abuse involved, it could not fall into the category of domestic violence because these two were never members of the same household. In order to understand this, the issue should be examined further. Attention should be given to the perplexing subject. In this way, the Jury would be able to understand why Jodi Arias can not portray herself as a domestic violence victim.

    Before looking at the examples that have already been provided the Jurors, to which their attention can be had, a quick examination can be made of some of the specifics. A houseguest [of the owner of the property] would not be considered a permanent resident or member of the household (for purposes of the Domestic Violence Act). It is the same for a person whose action is descriptive of a sleepover. That too would be viewed to be of a transient nature, and a person merely sleeping over would be unable to be recognized as a resident of the property or member of the household (for purposes of that Law). Certainly, when a person claims permanent residency in one location, he or she can not, at a whim, declare much later that the thought was that he or she could have simultaneously become a resident (on occasion) at another’s Homestead. This artful measure could not be applied in this way in order to fulfill the residency requirement for the Laws governing domestic violence to take effect.

    There are already certain examples in the Jodi Arias case that the Jury can examine to try to remove the confusion surrounding the application of the Domestic Violence Laws. Once the Jurors understand these Laws have nothing to do with this case, it will be that much easier for the Jurors to dismiss other troubling features to that plea of self-defense. The Jurors have to be told why Jodi Arias held no right to attack Travis Alexander when shifting the blame for the attack onto him. The defense team has spun a deceptive display to divert the Jurors from the reality, which is that the Jurors should examine and take into consideration that which is a part of the case and nothing else. Throwing in a battered woman’s defense does not belong in this case. Trying to make the Jury believe that Jodi Arias was ever a part of the household of Travis Alexander is an absurdity that must be removed from the minds of the Jurors. This can be done by example, in showing the examples the Jury can easily understand.

    Leslie Udy, a friend of Travis Alexander and Jodi Arias and an Associate of Pre-Paid Legal [who met Jodi Arias at the same Pre-Paid Legal convention in September of 2006 where Travis Alexander had met her] was the last person to testify for the State. She had accompanied Jodi Arias and Mr. Alexander when they went to Huntington Beach in California for a Pre-Paid Legal holiday event in June of 2007 [whereupon she stated she had no idea the two were involved in a sexual relationship]. Later, she told the Jury that she had stayed at the residence of Travis Alexander, although she did not explain the time frame (except to state Travis Alexander would talk to Jodi Arias early in the morning, at 1:00 A.M.). Common sense would support the fact that she never became a member of the household when staying on his bed in his bedroom at his residence even though she had been there more than an overnight. Also, other facts could lay to rest any thoughts of activity of a sexual nature just because Travis Alexander was there at the same time this young lady was staying at his home, whether for one day or one week. [One can dismiss the fact that Leslie Udy is a married woman and would not have imagined taking on a lover while at his home due to the fact that the morals of so many married men and women have become so degraded that it is now common to know of at least one married friend or associate who is shacked up with another person that is not the spouse.] However, Leslie Udy could not claim residency at the home of Travis Alexander, not only because she resided elsewhere with her husband, Mark, but because she lived outside of the State, in another of the States, the State of Utah. So, a person in her position [as either a houseguest or an over-night sleepover] could not request charges be filed against Travis Alexander for violations of the Domestic Violence Act — even if she were staying at Travis Alexander’s residence at the time and even if he would have injured her (which never happened, but is being used as an example as to why the Domestic Violence Act could not apply to any person just because that person, as a houseguest or overnight sleepover, stayed there for one day, one week, or any amount of time).

    Jodi Arias is not married, as is Leslie Udy, but Jodi Arias does live outside of the State of Arizona. Jodi Arias resides in the State of California. Even before she became a resident of Yreka, in April of 2008, she had remained a resident of California (with Matt McCartney,) in 2007. Before Jodi Arias moved to Mesa for a very brief period of time, she moved from the house that would be foreclosed in Palm Desert to live around Monterey with one of her former lovers [who she had lived with in the past when in between Bobby Suarez and Darryl Brewer]. When Leslie Udy spoke of going on a Pre-Paid Legal holiday with Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander to Huntington Beach, she was speaking of sojourning in the State where Jodi Arias was then a resident. Jodi Arias testified that she had moved out of Palm Desert to the Big Sur area around May of 2007. At that location, she shared housing with one of her lovers Matt McCartney. At the end of June of 2007, she had taken one week off (from her job at Ventana Inn and Spa) and traveled to Huntington Beach with her friends (who were not friends or acquaintances of Matt). Jodi Arias had never resided with Travis Alexander to be considered a domestic partner, but she did reside with Matt McCartney in a way where she would have been recognized as a domestic partner. If there would have been a complaint of abuse by Jodi Arias against Travis Alexander during that particular trip (where they stayed in various hotels over a one week period), which there had not been, but if there had been a complaint, the complaint could not have been made under the Domestic Violence Laws. This is especially so, since Jodi Arias resided at a location in another State than Travis Alexander did and already had a domestic partner.

    Even when Jodi Arias lived in Mesa, Arizona for a short while, she never resided with Travis Alexander in a way that would let her be recognized as a person who was a family or household member. Besides being a houseguest on occasion at the home of Travis Alexander, Jodi Arias would be a houseguest at the homes of other persons. For instance, over the weekend that included February 25, 2008, she stayed the weekend at the motor home of Gus Searcy in Las Vegas. She testified to this weekend venture on the eighteenth day of the Trial. She admitted that Travis Alexander was miffed that she had ditched their date, and seemed to make amends by sending a naked photo of her ass that she snapped in the bathroom of the motor home of Gus Searcy. Jodi Arias stated she had gone to the home of Gus Searcy for the weekend to unwind after he had invited her to stay awhile with him. (Gus Searcy may or may not have known of this arrangement, which is hard to tell because of the testimony he has provided, at the tenth day of the Trial, wherein he has asserted he was a witness to Jodi Arias arriving very upset after an argument and listening to the anger expressed over the telephone by Travis Alexander [without detailing the nude shots Jodi Arias was gleefully admitting taking in his water closet].) Whether it was Gus Searcy or Travis Alexander, ostensibly expressing anger with a raised voice or merely upsetting a woman with a phone call did not make either man vulnerable to a charge made under the Domestic Violence Act.

    This would have been different if Jodi Arias could have claimed herself to have been a roommate. While she knew that she was not a roommate of Travis Alexander, she knew who his roommates were. On the seventeenth day of Trial, Jodi Arias stated she stayed [as a houseguest] the last four days in Mesa at the home of Travis Alexander and that he had roommates at that time. While she stayed there, Travis Alexander had to drive her back to the home she was renting so that she could pick up her house plants. So, it is clear that she was not a roommate. She could not be a roommate at another address (for purposes of the Domestic Violence Act) if she had her own residence, which she did almost the entire time she lived in and around the Mesa/Gilbert area.

    Daniel Freeman testified that he was a roommate of Travis Alexander for 3 – 4 months in 2007, after returning from his Mission. He testified to have developed a friendship with Travis Alexander even before becoming a roommate and to be on friendly terms with Jodi Arias. He lived at the residence of Mr. Alexander, during a time that his own family lived a short distance away in Gilbert. Even if Daniel Freeman could not have provided solid hard-copy proof of residency there, such as a copy of a water services bill or a cell phone in his name or a Voter ID with his name and the address of the residence of Mr. Alexander, he would have still been considered a member of Mr. Alexander’s household. Due to the fact that he shared the home with Mr. Alexander on more than a transient basis, he would have been able to file a Complaint charging an act of domestic violence against Mr. Alexander — if there had been an act of domestic violence by Mr. Alexander (which there had not and no accusation like that has ever been made, but is being used as an example).

    Like so many have said of Mr. Alexander, Jodi Arias also stated Mr. Alexander would give up his bed and his entire bed room to accommodate others who needed a place to rest or a place to stay for a while. Jodi Arias testified to the particulars of a time in December of 2006 that was of interest because that was the first time that she had been to the residence of Mr. Alexander. There had been a caravan of vehicles to the residence of Mr. Alexander, and every one in that caravan stayed in his home. This would have been several weeks after Jodi Arias had been baptized as a Mormon, which meant that, at that time, Mr. Alexander could actually have entertained thoughts of dating her. [The act of Baptism has been more fully explained in the testimony of Daniel Freeman at the beginning of the twelfth day of Trial testimony — a short speech or ceremony followed by a reception of the Holy Ghost on Sunday, that would explain the presence of Travis Alexander for the 2-day event in November of 2006.]

    From what is known of the character and the habits of Mr. Alexander, he would have never entertained those thoughts before the Baptism [that had been scheduled by the Mormon Missionaries of her discussion group for November 26, 2006] because he was a devout Mormon who took his faith seriously. Unlike many, he would run to the Bishop first if he felt himself sliding or thought that he would fail his faith in some way. One thing the Bishop never heard from Mr. Alexander or anyone who knew him was that he dated outside his faith. That was never an option. However, although this was stated, this specific detail was not really heard by the Jurors. The Jury did not hear from the Bishop or from the Elder who was the primary care Missionary before he backed out of the Baptism because of the belief that Jodi Arias’ Vow of Chastity could not be kept while she continued in her live-in relationship with Darryl Brewer.

    On that December night in 2006, Jodi Arias was recognized as a Mormon, and Travis Alexander could then see whatever she presented to him as available. He was in a changing period in his life and had tired of being single. He had felt the weight of being single even more and struggled in trying to find a good wife who would help him achieve his goals and provide a home for the family he wanted more than anything. While others were admiring him for various traits and qualities this quixotic individual had, he held deep admiration for those around him who were married and devoted family men. More and more of his circle of friends and Associates had married, and he wanted to turn his home into a family residence. Until then, he was more than agreeable to entertaining friends and family whenever they wanted to drop in. He was a genial host and had made people feel welcome when extending to them his generosity by giving them the code to his garage and by leaving his doors unlocked. He would never turn away a person who needed a pillow to rest their weary head, a dinner and drink to feed their hunger and thirst, and entertainment to stimulate their minds.

    So, it was in December of 2006. Deanna Reid, his girlfriend was there for the overnight. Chris and Sky Hughes had lead the caravan of Pre-Paid Legal Associates to his home. Everyone was made comfortable. Two older ladies that were included in the caravan were made at home through setting up his bedroom for them.

    There have since been many people who have spoken out about the generosity and hospitality of Mr. Alexander, when giving up his own bed to let them stay in his home as revered guests. One gentleman in particular stayed with Travis Alexander for one week before his death. This gentleman has stated that the week he stayed at the residence was immediately preceding the death of Mr. Alexander, and that because of the proximity to his death and because he and Mr. Alexander had spent time that entire week target shooting with his guns (among other activities), he knew for a fact that Mr. Alexander did not have a gun in the home. However, this gentleman can not be used as an example for the Jurors because he has not been seen and has not been heard by the Jury. He did not testify as a witness, and giving too much weight to this extraneous material would take away from the thought process about what the Jury had seen and heard that would be needed to convict Jodi Arias for the crime of murder with premeditation.

    The testimony that exists and the evidence already admitted should be examined. Nothing more. That is, if one really wants to get a feel as to how the case is going to be deliberated.

    Because Jodi Arias has testified that she knew about a gun on the top shelf in the closet of Mr. Alexander’s bedroom/bathroom area from the time that she had cleaned his residence (which would have been around September of 2007) and that it was this gun she went after when Mr. Alexander lunged at her, it is possible that the prosecutor could subpoena this gentleman to testify as a rebuttal witness. But communicating as though this has been done or that his testimony has been allowed is misleading, and should not be accepted as the truth of the matter. The truth of the matter is that this particular fact is unknown. There is no knowledge about a Subpoena for this gentleman or exactly what he would be permitted to address.

    The television viewing audience may know all of the particulars about the nonexistence of the .25 caliber gun (that Jodi Arias has asserted she grabbed from the belongings of Mr. Alexander [the caliber known only because of the casing found at the crime scene]), but not one member of the Jury knows this. It is up to the team that the prosecutor has assembled to make sure that the prosecutor has become aware of this new witness and what the witness has to offer. This gentleman could definitely put to rest the notion that Mr. Alexander had had a gun in the home for over six months. Although Jodi Arias never stated the date that she originally discovered the gun, she did make the declaration that the gun was discovered while she was cleaning. And, she referenced the cleaning to the time that Mr. Alexander had been paying her to tidy up his home. This was in 2007, and the time of the murder was June 4, 2008.

    If Mr. Alexander would have had a gun in 2007, more people than Jodi Arias would have known about it before his death in June of 2008. Moreover, the location of the gun, if there were a gun (which is not at all probable, but, if there were a gun in that specific location,) it would not seem feasible because Mr. Alexander always invited his guests to stay in his room and use the bathroom unimpeded. This included access through the closet when needed. Jodi Arias represented the gun to have been loaded (or, at the least, to have had a bullet in the chambers when she pulled the trigger) and not kept in a safe, secure area where the gun could not have accidentally or unintentionally inflicted damage if a person found the gun. Keeping a gun in an area that is not secure is dangerous. Although there is no way to prove this point, the point is that Mr. Alexander did not seem to be a person that would endanger the lives of any one or more of his family members, friends, roommates, or Associates.

    In addition, Travis Alexander had been steadily dating a young lady by the name of Lisa Andrews [shortly after he and Deanna Reid had broken up]. (He dated Lisa Andrews in between the three times he dated Jodi Arias when they would break up.) If there was a gun in his residence she would have been familiar with that fact. When she testified, there was no mention of a gun. Also, she testified to how she felt when dating Travis Alexander for almost one year. Their relationship did not end until late December of 2007 or early January of 2008. They had a “dating relationship”. Additionally, Travis Alexander had a dating relationship with Mimi Hall after Lisa Andrews turned down his marriage proposal and finally broke up with him when being told that Jodi Arias was continuing to go to the residence to see Travis Alexander. It was Mimi Hall that was going to go to Cancun with him, although not as a girlfriend. She was the person who helped to discover that Travis Alexander was dead, and had made the 9-1-1 call.

    It seems that Travis Alexander was trying to progress in his life. He was looking for a Mormon young lady to marry him. Jodi Arias was busy with her own dating scene. On the eleventh day of Trial, Daniel Freeman had testified to seeing Travis Alexander act ungentlemanly. His sister had pinpointed the date of this incident (to Lake Havesu) to be around September 14, 2007 [her birthday]. What came out at Trial was that Travis Alexander had discovered that while he was dating Jodi Arias, she was still dating John Dixon after she told him she had stopped. Jodi Arias testified at the seventeenth day of the Trial that Travis Alexander had discovered this after Daniel Freeman had removed items from her backpack that included a journal in which she had written of her affair with John Dixon. Travis Alexander read what she had written about continuing to date John Dixon. He was the man she had met on Veterans’ Day, Saturday, November 11, 2006, when the snapshots of an erect penis had been made. He had also let Jodi Arias shower at his house during a vacation at Huntington Beach, which Travis Alexander found out. So, even though he, at one time, thought Jodi Arias was marriage material, as well as his friends, Chris and Sky Hughes, who thought Jodi was the one (which abruptly came to an end once figuring out there was something wrong with her), he had gone on with his life. She had even taunted him with Abe Abdelhadi, Sam Shultz, Steve Carroll, Ryan Burns, and a myriad of men, Mormon and non-Mormon.

    By April of 2008, Travis Alexander was no longer dating Jodi Arias. She would date and throw up in his face who she had been with to try to get some reaction out of him, but he stayed a one-woman man. His interest was with Mimi Hall, although she did not feel the same as he did. In spite of everything, he finally did come to realize that something was gravely wrong with Jodi Arias because he had started to tell his friends that if he were found dead in the desert to look at Jodi. He knew that he was being stalked. He knew that he was being abused. It is a shame that as a man he could not bring himself to ask for the protections that all people suffering an abusive relationship can have.

    The Jurors had asked Lisa Andrews several questions. The queries were mainly in regards to the way she interpreted the actions of Travis Alexander. She said she did not feel threatened by him, he was never abusive towards her, he did not make sexual advances towards her, he did not call her names, etc. She was also asked about Jodi Arias, and one of her answers concerned the fact that Jodi Arias was texting and e-mailing Travis Alexander, and another was that Travis had called her a stalker. From her answers concerning Jodi Arias, it was very plain to see that Travis Alexander would have needed to be protected under the Domestic Violence Act. However, he had never resided with Jodi Arias in a way that could be identified with the protections of that Law. So, neither he nor Jodi Arias could use that particular Law for a domestic partner.

    Not one of them could lay a claim as a domestic violence victim. In the case described at the start of this communication (where one is a resident of Arizona and one is a resident of California), neither the Arizona resident nor the California resident could be considered a perpetrator or a victim [or abuse survivor] under the Domestic Violence Laws, if the two never resided together — even if there were to have been an act (like a battery, an assault, or related stalking event or other associated act (although the accused could be simply charged with the offense, if there were indeed an offending criminal act).

    This does not take away the fact that a person can be fearful of a battery, an assault, or related stalking event or other associated act by a loved one or professed partner. However [besides immediate family members and blood relatives], unless the two cohabitate or have cohabitated within a set period of time of the recent past, OR ARE IN A DATING RELATIONSHIP (in some jurisdictions), neither one can be charged under the Domestic Violence Laws. In some jurisdictions, besides the protections afforded those suffering from domestic abuse, the same treatment is afforded those involved in dating relationships that are troubled or have ended.

    A “dating relationship” is one where there is a continuing and significant relationship of a romantic or intimate nature (wherein the nature of the relationship has been characterized by the expectation of affection or sexual involvement between the parties). The term never includes violence in a casual acquaintanceship or violence between individuals who only have engaged in ordinary fraternization in a business or social context. It appears the team of criminal lawyers have settled for a dating relationship as the identifier for their client since they can not make a domestic relationship exist for Jodi Arias to claim. However, with her history of multiple partners and the fact that Travis Alexander was no longer dating her and had NEVER committed a crime against her, the Jury should not be swayed. The Jury just has to understand the parameters.

    If a lawful Order of Protection exists a Law Enforcement Officer has no choice but to obey that lawful Order, and the victim of abuse would not have to go through the rigamarole of filing an initial Complaint. The Officer would know better, as that Officer possesses a handout that gives Notice of the legal rights and remedies that are available. Even if there is no Order and even if there is no arrest, the Officer must make a written report for episodes of domestic violence. So, if a person were to receive an Order of Protection from the State of California, then that person would be protected in the State of Arizona, and vice-versa. This could hold for those involved in a “dating relationship”, which is not the same as a domestic relationship, but it is treated similarly if there is danger of abuse. At no time has an Order of Protection been issued, and Jodi Arias should not be allowed to use this as part of her defense.

  118. janetlynn
    02/25/2013 at 2:49 pm

    I hope the jurors see through her crap. Obviously she’s been told to curb the cockiness.

  119. janetlynn
    02/25/2013 at 2:52 pm

    Look at her face during break….she’s fine!

  120. janetlynn
    02/25/2013 at 4:50 pm

    Oh, I wish he would ask her why she was so hell-bent on not writing the abuse in her journal. Who did she expect to read it???? “of course I didn’t write that” over and over. omg!

    And, question again, is the prosecutor not allowed to ask her to demonstrate that she is ambidextrous? We could here, so just wondering.

    I am not trying in any way to say Canada or US law is better, I’m simply wondering and in no way wish to insult anyone. Thanks.

  121. kate
    02/27/2013 at 10:50 pm

    Well after Karla Homolka you can’t say it is better!!!!

  122. kate
    02/27/2013 at 11:38 pm

    Thanks for making me aware of that (appealing a not guilty verdict) in Canada.
    And not only laughing and smirking her way out of the court room but off to meet her next hottie biscotti

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