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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Twenty-Nine

03/06/2013

I am so happy Nurmi is finally done and so looking forward to hearing the juror questions. Should give us a good idea as to what they are thinking. What I like about juror questions is if there are misconceptions about what was testified to, it gets cleared up! Just hope Judge Stephens limits Arias’ rambling answers, lol.

I’d like to apologize for misleading you folks about Arias being able to review the juror questions!  It wasn’t until Beth Karas said, since Arias is the defendant, rules about seeing questions are probably different!  It then struck me that any time I have seen juror questions they have been questions for witnesses, either prosecution or defense.  None of the trials I’ve seen that did questions was one were the defendant chose to take the stand!  So, humble apologies, but nice that an old dog can learn new tricks!!!

Screen shot 2013-03-06 at 1.22.52 PMSo, everyone reported something different about when court would go live.  Turns out they went live at 11:15 MST to hear arguments about the questions…jury not present!

BTW, Nurmi arrived late to review the questions!

We are hearing the reasons for the objections, but we don’t know what the questions are because they are referred to by question number, so not much to report.  Suffice it to say, Martinez only had four questions he objected to, Nurmi had a laundry list!

Nurmi won two objections, was overruled on six others.

No idea how many questions may have been removed as duplicates.

Judge now calls counsel to chambers!

So, off to lunch!

Open court resumes at 1:07 with a sidebar and technical problems.  Court recessed till technical difficulties are addressed!

Jury called in at 1:30 MST.  Now they are sent to the hallway for a minute…ackkkkkk.  Judge forgot to have Jodi take the stand…jury can’t see her leg restraint, prejudicial!

Lord almighty, Nurmi back up at the bench again!

This is cruel and unusual punishment!

Jury brought in the second time at 1:34.

Did Mr. Alexander pay for the majority of your tips?  No, we split it 50/50.

Was it his money, his choices?  The church history yes, the rest was mutual.

Why did you put the camera in the washer?  I have no memory of that.

Why did you call 911 on your ex, but not on Travis?  There were no phones upstairs.

Why continue to sleep with Travis after you learned about his child porn issue?  He didn’t want to behave that way and I didn’t want him to be that way either.

Why didn’t you change your gmail password so Travis couldn’t access it?  It didn’t become a problem till after I moved and changed my password.

Did Travis’ closet doors have locks?  No.

How did you have time to get the gun down if he was behind you?  I had the perception he was behind me.

Why did you feel so uncomfortable with anal sex with Travis when you had that experience before?  With others we only tried it, with Travis it was his preferred behavior.

You told Darryl you wanted to abstain from sex till married?  Why did you still  have sex with Travis?  Baloney, it was Travis’ fault for the way he explained chastity to her.

Why did you tell Leslie you want your kids to play with Travis’ kids if he was into children?  I only wanted to show him in a good light.

Folks, she’s lying her butt off!!!

She took the photo of the t-shirt and panties because they were sentimental to her and she wanted to memorialize them.

Didn’t Willmott say they were degrading?

Who initiated the contact with Booby after you broke up?  We broke up many times, but I remember one time where I initiated the contact.  He was broke and had nothing so I bought groceries and left them on the porch.  He knew they were from her because she bought stuff she knew he liked!

Juror who is hard of hearing having trouble with headset.  Jury sent out till it can be addressed!

5-minute recess called.

So far, it seems the jury is questioning Jodi’s story!

She does seem to be enjoying herself. Thinks she’s answering perfectly and the jury understands her now, however she is royally screwing up!

Court is back at 2:33 MST.

Who initiated contact after the break up with Matt?  This was after Bianca, but she wrote a long email explaining how she felt.  After that he ended up in Ventana same time as she did.

With Darryl there was no separation because they stopped being intimate, but still lived in they same house.  She did initiate contact when she stopped by to see his son.

With Travis they both contacted each other.

How did you know Victor’s family? She met them when she was with Victor in Costa Rica.

What is your relationship with your mother today?  It’s complicated and strained, but I love her a lot.

Relationship with father is difficult and it is better when they aren’t around each other.  She considers him negative so she avoids that.

Juror wants Jodi to run through the attack on June 4, using the floor plan, lol!  Contradicting her testimony!  Body slam has resurfaced again.

The gun you purchased on July 1st, you bought was because you were going on a camping trip?  Who was going?  Some dishwashers and there may have been more women coming, but I was unaware of that at the time.

Oops, she didn’t mention the drinking!

Why were you going if you were scared?  I wasn’t scared, just being cautious.

Were you paid for the interview with 48 Hours or Inside Edition?  No, I didn’t ask and they didn’t offer.

You tried to call Matt and Darryl about your change in plans, why didn’t you just leave a message?  My phone was low and was trying to find my charger.

Claims she and Travis carried water and gas cans in the trunk on long trips.

Why did you confront Travis after seeing him with another woman through the window?  Were you jealous?  I just wanted know where we stood.

If you weren’t jealous, why did you call your father?  I called the house to speak with my sister because we’re close, it’s a girl thing, but my father answered and could tell I was upset.

Did the dog bark at loud noises?  Typically, if the doorbell rang or someone knocked on the door.

Did police ever find the gun stolen from your grandfather?  Not that I know of.

Why did you put Travis’ body back in the shower?  I don’t remember doing that

What happened to the clothes you were wearing on June 4th?  I don’t remember.

Were you upset Travis was taking another woman to Cancun?  No.

Did you lock the bedroom door when you left?  I don’t remember.

Did you attempt to clean up the scene?  The evidence says I did, but I don’t remember.

If you shot Travis first, how did the shell casing end up on top of the blood?  It didn’t ,there was no blood on the floor at that time.

This is so well rehearsed…she’s been practicing for years!

Was the gun in a case or out in the open?  I don’t recall, but I know Travis had a holster.

Yesterday she said it was in the holster!!!!

When did you realize you have memory loss?  In reference to June 4?  When I pulled over on the desert looking for the water and clean myself up.

Good questions from the jury!

Why is it you can’t remember when Travis lent you money, but you can recall when and how much you lent him?  I think I spoke about some of the times Travis lent me money.  My journals contained the amounts and dates and I’ve read them since.

Vinnie Politan  @VinniePolitan#JodiArias

#JuryQuestions loaded with skepticism

 Why did you take the time to delete the photos off the camera on the 4th?  That’s part of what I don’t remember.

You stated Travis’ family deserved to know the truth, why didn’t you confess then?  There were certain truths I didn’t want them to know.

10-minute recess!

Mama!  Nurmi asks to approach!

Court back at 3:54.

Did you call any men you did not have romantic interest in, hottie biscotti?  Yes, in text messages.

Do you feel the guys in your life cheated on you because you were controlling?  They took advantage of my nature, but then says she gave them freedom?

Were you angry when you stabbed Travis?  I don’t recall anger, just being scared for my life.

On cross you were asked if you were crying when you were stabbing Travis and you said no?  I think I was crying when I answered that, I believe I was probably crying, but that’s part of the fog.

Jurors don’t believe her fog!

Why did you decide to tell the truth after two years?  I was embarrassed and felt like I wasn’t the person I was portraying to the world.  I evolved and matured.  It was a secret I wanted to take to the grave with me.

Why did you decide to tell everyone about Travis’ secret about child porn?  I did so after speaking with a psychologist in California.  I said

i would never tell because he promised to get help and he didn’t.

How do you determine when you’ll tell the truth and when not to? Anything relating to Travis’ death I covered up.

Still, nada can be corroborated!!!  The jury is really testing her!

If Travis told you the gun wasn’t loaded, why did you grab it?  Loaded or not, I thought pointing it would stop him, that’s what she has always knew. She didn’t intend to shoot him.

Travis would have known if there were bullets in it!

 Judge calls it a day!

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  1. Laine
    03/06/2013 at 6:48 pm

    Thanks donchais! I’ve been in Germany for 2 days on business and have relied entirely on your blog for catch up!
    Sounds like the jury asked some pretty well thought out questions. Its good to know they are paying attention, it gives you faith that all the questions we raise here they are also picking up on. I hope they took note of the answers!!!

    • donchais
      03/06/2013 at 6:53 pm

      The jury did a great job with their questions…appears they ain’t buying her bull crap!

  2. Rache
    03/06/2013 at 7:00 pm

    Donchais, regarding the questions….did she preview them? It seems she was ready for most of them. However, I am hopeful, after hearing their questions, this jury will get it right. Thanks for your blog.

    • donchais
      03/06/2013 at 7:06 pm

      Yup, the defendant is allowed to review. She told the lies all over, but tripped herself up a number of times. Think the jury has her number!

  3. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:06 pm

    Donchais – great job in getting all those Q and A’s because she’s just rattling off the answers.

    I don’t think that the jury is buying her story at all from what I see. No emotion, nothing. It’s like she talking about the weather or a grocery list. I loved when they asked her about her mental condition. Guess she didn’t wanna say ‘Well to tell you the truth, I’m really a psychopath and pathological liar’.

    Loved that the jury asked what her glass prescription is. So totally rehearsed. I wear glasses only to read and I haven’t the foggiest idea of what my prescription is and probably most people don’t unless they have quite a few optical issues.

    Love it, love it, love it. She is truly sinking herself and has no idea the damage she is doing!!! (at least I hope she is cooking her goose)

  4. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:11 pm

    donchais :
    Yup, the defendant is allowed to review. She told the lies all over, but tripped herself up a number of times. Think the jury has her number!

    Really hope so because I want her to fry so badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. Gianna
    03/06/2013 at 7:12 pm

    Wow. I like that question at the end about men cheating because she’s controlling! They clearly believe she’s controlling, not weak!! Not sure many ‘battered women’ are called controlling…

    Off topic Donchais, but you know the Dr Phil Dylan Redwine show, any chance you’d consider watching it and transcribing/commenting on it? I’m sure you are busy enough but it’s another fascinating case and there are apparently NO transcripts available anywhere on the net….if there are and someoene can provide a link, I’d be very grateful.

    Well done again on your work here Donchais!

    • donchais
      03/06/2013 at 7:20 pm

      Gianna, No, sorry not familiar. I do have another case in a few weeks that I’ve been reporting on for five years and need to put my energy into that.

  6. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:13 pm

    Anybody have any idea how many questions we got through? Since we are finishing tomorrow she is going to have until then to prepare her answers for the remaining questions.

  7. Lisa M
    03/06/2013 at 7:19 pm

    I think the jury’s questions were great. They truly show how skeptical they are about her story. Her explanation about thinking the gun would stop Travis is the biggest piece of bs I’ve ever heard and I hope the jury realizes how nonsensical it is. Since it was his gun, he would know if it wasn’t loaded, so why would that stop him? That is such a glaring lie.
    And she said something about not thinking Travis was a threat regarding his so-called pedophilia. Why would you not be concerned about his threat to children if he hadn’t gotten help? Another glaring lie.
    I hope that the jury takes each of her answers and if it didn’t clarify the question for them, chalk it up as a lie. That way, they’ll determine beyond a reasonable doubt that she is lying about everything.

  8. Rache
    03/06/2013 at 7:20 pm

    donchais :
    Yup, the defendant is allowed to review. She told the lies all over, but tripped herself up a number of times. Think the jury has her number!

    It really looks that way…..I hope you are right!

  9. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:21 pm

    Interesting tweet from a local AZ reporter. He makes a good point!

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer

    Every time Arias mentions Law of Attractions and The Secret, I recall that its guru James Ray is in prison for the Sedona sweat lodge deaths

  10. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:23 pm

    WOW – JVM just said that while JA was answering questions that the jurors were submitting even more questions!

    Love it, love it, love it!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • donchais
      03/06/2013 at 7:24 pm

      teehee!

  11. Lisa M
    03/06/2013 at 7:26 pm

    There’s hope finally. The silver lining in a dark, dark cloud. JVM just said that as Jodi was answering questions, they jurors were asking more questions. Just goes to show that they are more like us than unlike us. I was doing the same thing in my mind. “Okay so you say Travis wasn’t a threat to children, but you said he wasn’t addressing the issue? Shouldn’t you have been concerned about this? Are you only concerned about yourself?” And was the gun in the holster or not in the holster? Etc. So it just goes to show you they are not buying her b.s. They just need to let this trial run its course and convict her already.

  12. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:27 pm

    donchais :
    teehee!

    Figured you’d like that!!! 🙂 I just hope that they are allowed!

  13. Shannon
    03/06/2013 at 7:28 pm

    Best question of the day “What is your understanding of the word Skank?” I could not stop laughing!!!

  14. 03/06/2013 at 7:34 pm

    JVM just said jury submitting more questions. Maybe they figure if they keep it up she will give in.

    Thank you donchais ;0)

  15. andrize
    03/06/2013 at 7:35 pm

    Gianna, here is a link to some statement analysis on Redwine/Dr. Phil:
    http://www.statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2013/02/mark-redwine-too-drunk-for-polygraph.html?m=1

    There are additional entries regarding the appearance and the case in general on that website as well.

    – Alisa

  16. Lisa M
    03/06/2013 at 7:36 pm

    She seemed to be stumbling a lot during her answers and making up some things as she went along. But this is my question: how much time does Jodi get to review the juror’s questions? Is it on the morning of the testimony or does she get to spend all night thinking about what she’s going to say?
    OMG, did she actually say “the bedroom curriculum”? LOL

  17. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:38 pm

    Shannon :
    Best question of the day “What is your understanding of the word Skank?” I could not stop laughing!!!

    Love it, love it, love it!!!!

  18. Lisa M
    03/06/2013 at 7:38 pm

    Her actual quote was, “It wasn’t a part of our bedroom curriculum.” First time I’ve ever hear “curriculum” used in that way. Kinda points towards her warped attitude towards sex.

  19. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 7:42 pm

    Wendy Murphy on JVM just said that if JA says the word ‘edify’ one more time, she’s going to barf!!!

    I’m so glad that she is driving other people, aka, the jury nuts! Plus she needs to stop using ‘de-edify’ cause I don’t think that is even a word!!! LOL

    I guess this makes me a horrible person because I am so loving these questions!!!!! Guess what, I don’t give a damn cause I want justice for Travis and all those who loved him!!!

  20. Rache
    03/06/2013 at 7:42 pm

    Shannon :
    Best question of the day “What is your understanding of the word Skank?” I could not stop laughing!!!

    Shannon :
    Best question of the day “What is your understanding of the word Skank?” I could not stop laughing!!!

    I missed that one….what was her answer?

  21. jojo3072
    03/06/2013 at 7:45 pm

    My favorite question was when she was asked if she had ever sought help for her mental condition. The confused look on her face cracked me up.

  22. janet
    03/06/2013 at 7:47 pm

    I don’t know about you guys, but it seemed to me some of the jurors questions were repeated. And some might believe her abuse! Or maybe they were trying to see if she would change her story yet again!! I know of a few she screwed up on. I know they are all lies, but u could tell she was prepared, & sometimes was allowed to RAMBLE on! I just don’t know where the jury stands to be honest!!

  23. Laine
    03/06/2013 at 7:49 pm

    Shannon :Best question of the day “What is your understanding of the word Skank?” I could not stop laughing!!!

    That one made me smile too! Also did I hear her say that she wasn’t scare when she went upstairs when he was banging his head because he’d never been violent before then…..wasn’t that after he broke her finger??? Or do I have the dates wrong??

  24. Gianna
    03/06/2013 at 7:53 pm

    That’s cool Donchais (about the Dylan Redwine transcripts)! I did happen to just find a good link (from what I’ve read so far) if anyone else is interested in reading them: http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8846186.

  25. hottopic08
    03/06/2013 at 7:59 pm

    When asked the question did the Book of Mormon go into detail regarding chastity, in her answer she used some of the same specific words she used in the email letter to Lisa, (whoredom and unclean). Has the jury seen that email? Loved this question, Q: Did you ever see a doctor for your memory issues? First thing that popped in my mind was ” I don’t remember “!

  26. Observer
    03/06/2013 at 8:01 pm

    Can you say busted?

    The jury is not fooled by this wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    At times Jodi Arias was gulping like a drowning swimmer. At other times, she lied without skipping a beat.

    I loved these questions:

    Why did you sleep with him after you discovered his child porn issues?

    How did you get the gun off the shelf if he was chasing you?

    Why would you point an unloaded gun at someone who told you it was unloaded?

    Why did the bullet casing land in blood if you shot him first?

    Why would you even say on national TV no jury will convict you because you are innocent even if you planned on killing yourself?

    Does the Mormon Church encourage you to tell the truth?

    After going to church, Family Home Evening and reading the Book of Mormon, how did you not know all forms of sex are forbidden?

    Why didn’t you call Ryan to tell him you’d be late?

    Were you angry when you stabbed Travis?

    If you weren’t jealous when you saw him kissing the girl, why did you cry and call your father?

    Was the floor slick when Travis body slammed you?

    How is it you remember everything except stabbing Travis?

    Re-enact the crime using the floor plan.

    As she was telling the bogus body slam, closet chase and gun going off story again with no uhmms, I realize she invented version No. 3 because it was simple to remember, it makes Travis the bad guy and she takes no responsibility for anything. She claimed she blacked out right after the gun went off just like when she was drunk at 19 and 15. LOL

    I think Miss Smarty Pants thinks she scammed the jury with her rambling spin and believes she will walk.

    The camera stamp, the huge blood stain on his bedroom rug where Travis bled out from the 27 stab wounds, stab to the heart and the slit throat and the defensive wounds on his hands shows who was chasing whom through the bathroom and who was fighting for their life.

    The scary thing about Jodi Arias is if she is not put to death, she is going to end up luring a guard with sex, shooting him with his gun and escaping because she is only concerned about her freedom.

  27. kristin
    03/06/2013 at 8:19 pm

    So many of these questions were the exact ones posted on this blog at one point or another. My favorite question asked was ‘Have you ever sought medical attention for your MENTAL PROBLEM?’ JA said ‘Uhh I’m not sure what you are referring to.’ LOLOL! She is up chocolate creek without a popsicle stick.

  28. Observer
    03/06/2013 at 8:30 pm

    hottopic08 :
    When asked the question did the Book of Mormon go into detail regarding chastity, in her answer she used some of the same specific words she used in the email letter to Lisa, (whoredom and unclean). Has the jury seen that email? Loved this question, Q: Did you ever see a doctor for your memory issues? First thing that popped in my mind was ” I don’t remember “!

    The jury wasn’t shown that email because the state can’t prove Jodi wrote it.

    12-08-07 – The day after Travis’s tires were slashed for the second day in a row while he was at Lisa’s house, Lisa receives this email from a John Doe which Lisa knew came from Jodi Arias:

    “You are a shameful whore. Your Heavenly Father must deeply be ashamed of the whoredoms you committed with that insidious man. If you let him stay in your bed one more time or even sleep under the same roof as him, you will be giving the appearance of evil. You are driving away the Holy Ghost and you are wasting your time. You are also compromising your salvation and breaking your baptismal covenants. Of all the commandments to break, committing acts of whoredom is one of the most displeasing in the eyes of the Lord. You cannot be ashamed enough of yourself. You are filthy and you need to repent in the eyes of God. Think about your future husband and how you disrespect not only yourself, but him as well as the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Is that what you want for yourself? Your future, your salvation and your posterity is resting on your choices and actions. You are a daughter of God, and you have been a shameful example. Be thou clean, sin no more. Heavenly Father loves you and wants you to make the right choices. I know you are strong enough to choose the right. Your Father in Heaven is pulling for you. Don’t ignore the promptings you receive because they are vital to your well being.”

  29. Shannon
    03/06/2013 at 8:31 pm

    Rache- She said she believed it was a derogatory term towards women! I wish the juror had asked why he called her it. I found a few of the questions strange. I was on a CA grand jury. Only in the grand jury can you ask questions of witnesses, and some of the questions would make me think ” Were you not listening to the testimony?” I just hope none of the jurors go on strange tangents during deliberation.

  30. Anne M. Hughes
    03/06/2013 at 8:31 pm

    “I wear glasses only to read and I haven’t the foggiest idea of what my prescription is and probably most people don’t unless they have quite a few optical issues.”

    If anybody has noticed… she mostly ditches the glasses when she IS reading. Ughhhh. KILLER!

  31. MMD
    03/06/2013 at 8:38 pm

    kristin :
    So many of these questions were the exact ones posted on this blog at one point or another. My favorite question asked was ‘Have you ever sought medical attention for your MENTAL PROBLEM?’ JA said ‘Uhh I’m not sure what you are referring to.’ LOLOL! She is up chocolate creek without a popsicle stick.

    Kristin – so glad you’re “here all week” and still cracking me up:-)

  32. Shannon
    03/06/2013 at 8:42 pm

    Laine, sorry I am on my iPhone and so not know how to put original post first- to answer the question of when she went upstairs when she heard the head banging, she claims that happened in August 2007, after her spying on Travis and Lisa making out. The “broken finger” incident supposedly occurred in Jan 2008. I am surprised she does not have a cheat sheet written on her hands to keep track! I think her stories are lies therefore harder for her to remember.

  33. Observer
    03/06/2013 at 9:05 pm

    I wonder if the jury will be allowed to ask Jodi questions about her stalking Travis, slashing his tires and tampering with a witness. Neither Nurmi nor Martinez asked her about any of them.

  34. Janet
    03/06/2013 at 9:33 pm

    Laine :

    Shannon :Best question of the day “What is your understanding of the word Skank?” I could not stop laughing!!!

    That one made me smile too! Also did I hear her say that she wasn’t scare when she went upstairs when he was banging his head because he’d never been violent before then…..wasn’t that after he broke her finger??? Or do I have the dates wrong??

    I caught that too! Unless you and I have the dates wrong, she totally screwed up that one! HA Ha!!! I did like the “did you ever seek help for your mental condition?”
    AND about the bullet not having any blood on it!! She wants to defy the evidence!

  35. Janet
    03/06/2013 at 9:37 pm

    kristin :
    So many of these questions were the exact ones posted on this blog at one point or another. My favorite question asked was ‘Have you ever sought medical attention for your MENTAL PROBLEM?’ JA said ‘Uhh I’m not sure what you are referring to.’ LOLOL! She is up chocolate creek without a popsicle stick.

    LOL!! Careful, she may like “invent” that popsicle stick! Baaahaaaa!

  36. NancyB
    03/06/2013 at 9:46 pm

    Can we really fathom how much blood was really present? She used a GLASS to scoop up the blood in the crime scene! The imagery of that is nearly beyond my comprehension. That she transected -cut through his Rt Jugular and Rt. Carotid arteries says it all. Those are huge vessels that would have not just been leaking blood but spurting and pumping it out. Between the stab through the heart that hit another major vessel, poor Travis totally bled out. I just pray this jury is of one mind and gives her death.

  37. Janet
    03/06/2013 at 9:50 pm

    But,but,but……THE BULLET CASING DID NOT LAND IN BLOOD!!! I swear, the evidence is wrong!!!!
    I’m surprised no juror asked about her direct and redirect testimony that she never mentioned getting the gun out of the holster until yesterday when Squirmi had redirect!! I was waiting for that one! The skank and the “help for mental condition” questions had me cracking up!!!!!!! And I’m sorry, common sense will tell you, no sex means NO SEX period!! Not just some certain sex! You don’t have to be a Mormon to figure that out!! Why does she truly believe she doesn’t understand the meaning, and blames HIM for her shortcomings? She’s always pretty much bragging about how smart she is except when it comes to Travis! That tells me “obsession” at it’s best!! A stalker it creates!!!

  38. Berndatte
    03/06/2013 at 9:57 pm

    donchais, I appreciate your blog so much! I watched all day today and still had to read your synopsis. I wanted to swear off trials after Casey Anthony…but here I am again. I’ve become quite the Travis fan over the last few weeks. He comes across like a real quality person, despite all the sordid details. I love his family too, now…and my favorite question of the day was “if you thought Travis’ family should know the truth, why didn’t you confess to them?”
    The looks on all their faces! They couldn’t disguise their complete contempt. Whenever the Grandmother comes up, it is the same–they have a hard time not jumping over that rail and throttling her. How difficult this must be for all of them! I just hope they realize that many of us appreciate Travis in a sincere way. I didn’t know him, I know he probably had a few flaws…but I wind up really liking him and wishing he had never crossed paths with this devil incarnate. Here is a fun video if you haven’t seen it, of Travis having a good time: http://youtu.be/VIsCVcOy11k

    • donchais
      03/06/2013 at 9:59 pm

      Thanks Berndatte!

  39. Observer
    03/06/2013 at 10:02 pm

    jojo3072 :
    My favorite question was when she was asked if she had ever sought help for her mental condition. The confused look on her face cracked me up.

    The question was: Have you ever taken medication for your memory issue?

    • donchais
      03/06/2013 at 10:05 pm

      Actually, there were several questions about her “mental/memory” condition.

  40. Jill
    03/06/2013 at 10:21 pm

    Gosh, that video on dr drew of travis on the couch and jodi lying on his lap was so sad. He was very, very affectionate to her unlike she says. As she was sitting up and taking his arm off her, he kept holding on to her hand…he kept his hand on hers the whole time that he was telling the sad story of when he had a gun to his head. I really wish the jury could see that video. It proves that he was not hiding her in front of his friends and how affectionate he was. I was so touched how he kept holding her hand after she pulled his arm off. Why didn’t this come into evidence???? It’s so sad that the prosecutor doesn’t have these videos of travis in a good light…do you know why the state didn’t look like evidence like this to disprove her negative talk about travis trying to diss her in public.??? Ty

    • donchais
      03/06/2013 at 10:25 pm

      The state picks their fights and only presents the best of the best to keep the jury engaged. So far, they’ve done a more than impressive job without losing the jury, the way Nurmi has done for the defense, IMHO!

  41. Schaeffer
    03/06/2013 at 10:28 pm

    She made a HUGE error when she was recounting the events of June 4th on the stand today. She said Travis said ‘”Kill you, bitch” AFTER she shot him! Always before, she has said he said it as he was charging at her. Of course, the entire story is a lie, the ME said the shot was last, but even it it had been first, he would have been immediately incapacitated and unable to speak. I just hope the jurors caught her mistake.

    Jodi is like verbal vomit; she just opens her mouth and the words just spew out.

    • Laine
      03/07/2013 at 3:56 am

      Shannon :Laine, sorry I am on my iPhone and so not know how to put original post first- to answer the question of when she went upstairs when she heard the head banging, she claims that happened in August 2007, after her spying on Travis and Lisa making out. The “broken finger” incident supposedly occurred in Jan 2008. I am surprised she does not have a cheat sheet written on her hands to keep track! I think her stories are lies therefore harder for her to remember.

      Thanks shannon! I couldn’t remember the dates! But to make a statement that Travis was never violent I think was very powerful. I think keep feeding her the rope…she is doing a great job of hanging herself!!

  42. Schaeffer
    03/06/2013 at 10:35 pm

    I looked up The Law of Chastity in The Book of Mormon, and it is very simple and to the point — Don’t Do It or anything that even arouses stirrings. There is no need for interpretation and absolutely no ROOM for interpretation. Saying she wasn’t clear about the Law, and Travis explained it to her, is nonsense. A child could understand it, and in fact it instructs parents to begin this indoctrination early, and to teach their children any and all questions about sex and even their bodies should be directed to them, nobody else.

    • janet
      03/07/2013 at 7:14 am

      Schaeffer- I read it too, & you are right!! Plain & simple!

  43. Observer
    03/06/2013 at 10:48 pm

    Jill :
    Gosh, that video on dr drew of travis on the couch and jodi lying on his lap was so sad. He was very, very affectionate to her unlike she says. As she was sitting up and taking his arm off her, he kept holding on to her hand…he kept his hand on hers the whole time that he was telling the sad story of when he had a gun to his head. I really wish the jury could see that video. It proves that he was not hiding her in front of his friends and how affectionate he was. I was so touched how he kept holding her hand after she pulled his arm off. Why didn’t this come into evidence???? It’s so sad that the prosecutor doesn’t have these videos of travis in a good light…do you know why the state didn’t look like evidence like this to disprove her negative talk about travis trying to diss her in public.??? Ty

    Jill :
    Gosh, that video on dr drew of travis on the couch and jodi lying on his lap was so sad. He was very, very affectionate to her unlike she says. As she was sitting up and taking his arm off her, he kept holding on to her hand…he kept his hand on hers the whole time that he was telling the sad story of when he had a gun to his head. I really wish the jury could see that video. It proves that he was not hiding her in front of his friends and how affectionate he was. I was so touched how he kept holding her hand after she pulled his arm off. Why didn’t this come into evidence???? It’s so sad that the prosecutor doesn’t have these videos of travis in a good light…do you know why the state didn’t look like evidence like this to disprove her negative talk about travis trying to diss her in public.??? Ty

    This video could still be introduced at the rebuttal case to counter Jodi’s testimony. Martinez said he was calling Dave Hall, Travis’s good friend, who is going to testify that Travis didn’t have a gun and always borrowed his. He may ask him other questions about Travis and how he treated women. He may also supoenae that video.

  44. Chrissie A
    03/06/2013 at 11:20 pm

    jojo3072 :
    My favorite question was when she was asked if she had ever sought help for her mental condition. The confused look on her face cracked me up.

    Me too, I almost fell out of my chair:-)

  45. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/06/2013 at 11:29 pm

    AH HA HA HA HAAAAAA!!! How to make the day for old ladies……

    Q. “Did you seek medical help for your mental condition?!!”

    A. “Duhhhhh…..what mental condition are you referring to???”

    AH HA HA HA HAAAAAA!! We’re still rolling on the floor!! Right on Jury!!!!

  46. kristin
    03/06/2013 at 11:41 pm

    Thank you for making me feel welcomed! I must give credit to Gingy from Shrek movie for the chocolate creek one liner lol! I do wish, I bet Janet does too, that the chocolate creek is swarming with piranhas that are hungry for skanky liars!

    • janet
      03/07/2013 at 8:28 am

      Oh yeah! The pirannahs would have a field day with her!!!!!

  47. Barbara in PA
    03/07/2013 at 12:25 am

    Took a “snow day” (ha!! what a bust) today and watched this. Sooo many cheers for these questions. Loved the “define ‘skank’ for us” question and “how do you decide when to lie and when not to” (paraphrased).

    I am sooo loving this jury.

    Donchais, have you seen that new video of her & Travis that Dr Drew had? It is truly heartbreaking that he went through that and then this psychotic harpie had to do almost exactly the same thing.

    Keep up the great work!!

  48. Anonymous
    03/07/2013 at 1:27 am

    She totally tripped herself up badly with that treasure trove of lies….all the specific details of the stabbing and how she felt while doing it…that stabbing ,by the way,that she “cannot remember” doing! Very encouraged by their questions so far and hope this has given Travis’s family hope that justice for him will indeed be served.

  49. mary
    03/07/2013 at 8:04 am

    Does anybody know if there is any pictorial evidence of TA’s bedroom showing a house phone? Also, did TA own these alleged gas cans they would take on long trips? We only have cell phones here so that could be the truth although there is no way she ever planned on calling anyone.

  50. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 8:18 am

    mary :
    Does anybody know if there is any pictorial evidence of TA’s bedroom showing a house phone? Also, did TA own these alleged gas cans they would take on long trips? We only have cell phones here so that could be the truth although there is no way she ever planned on calling anyone.

    There may not have been a landline upstairs but Travis would take his cell phone upstairs. I’m sure he was trying to get to his call phone in the bedroom as she was stabbing him and bled out on the rug before he could get to it. She lured him into the shower knowing he wouldn’t take his cell phone in the shower and couldn’t call 911. She didn’t call 911 because she wanted him dead.

    She said it was Daryl who would take the gas cans when they went on trips. She never owned any gas cans.

  51. ritanita
    03/07/2013 at 8:31 am

    “Were you angry when you stabbed Travis? I don’t recall anger, just being scared for my life.”

    This is the first big crack in her so-called memory fog. I’m sure the jury noticed.

    For those who don’t understand why Jodi removes her glasses to read:

    If she’s near-sighted, she can see better close up. Far-sighted people can see better at a distance.

    For most of my life, I was extremely near-sighted, to the point of being over 20/400 (legally blind) in both eyes. As I grew older and had trouble reading close-up (presbyopic), I’d routinely read without my glasses and the book to my nose (like Nurmi). I was too vain for bi-focals.

    I had cataract surgery and corrective lenses implanted. I am now 20/30 and 20/40ish without glasses. I am far-sighted now. I can drive without glasses but need reading glasses to read anything.

    Hint at telling if a person is near-sighted or far-sighted in a person if they don’t need glasses or contacts: Near-sighted people will put the text right in front of their noses to read. Far-sighted people will hold the text further away, sometimes at an arm’s length.

    As a person grows older, presbyopia sets in. It means “old eyes” and means they can no longer adjust for vision at a variety of distances. That’s why many people wear bi- and tri-focals to aid them. My lenses are not the equivalent of bi- or tri- focal. They are just a plain correction. There are other options, but mono-focal were the best for me.

    Sorry for the vision rant, but a lot of people don’t run into these problems on an every day basis!

  52. jad
    03/07/2013 at 8:43 am

    Observer — There is an answer for you about the rope in the following:

    THIS IS CONJECTURE. NONE OF THIS HAS YET BEEN PROVED. PLEASE READ WITH CAUTION AND HANDLE WITH CARE.

    The person who shares her time and energy to distribute the content on this web site is very altruistic. It is run most capably by donchais, and most admirably. Those who post here are of the same caliber, and they seek the truth. At this time, what I will describe about what is felt about the rope is not to be considered in that category, as I do not want to mislead anyone that this has already been discovered. It is my belief that something very similar to my belief will come out eventually, but this is not what the prosecutor is trying to prove at Trial. Thus, the theory is not integral to the case. However, since the rope issue has come up, I offer the following as an explanation:

    The first time this web sight was found was on day 9 of the Trial, January 26, 2013. At that time, a comment was read that had been posted by Jennifer on day 7, about the photographs related to the case. In posting a response, I had to first go to the Examiner web site and then follow-up by locating other web sites where some of the pictures on the Examiner site (of that June 4, 2008 day of brutality) could be compared to the “before” pictures of a very much alive Travis Alexander. The reason for looking for other pictures was to find out if Mr. Alexander had been beaten. In the pictures that were being discussed, it appeared that his left ear had been struck multiple times or injured in a manner as though he had been pistol whipped. If this were the case, the injury could have happened if he had been taken by surprise or put into a compromised situation where he could have experienced certain trauma to his face and neck [and legs or other parts of his body].

    In further examining of the photos, what appeared to be a thin cord that seemed to be binding the hands of Mr. Alexander could be detected. A comment was left that day as to what was THOUGHT to have been seen on those pictures posted at that Examiner web site (and certain other pictures available through the evidence package). When initially examining the pictures related to the case, the physical abuse of Mr. Alexander could be viewed. However, there was no answer in just those photos that had emerged from a memory stick that had been in a camera that had taken photos of Mr. Alexander before, during, and after he was brutally murdered. There had to be a follow-up to discover what that thin cord that appeared to bind the hands of Mr. Alexander could have been. It definitely was not an electrical cord or a twist tie. It was almost invisible because it was so minuscule in size and very light in color. It appeared to be tan, like the shade of his skin. Moreover, it was string-like, and the thought was that there did not seem like there should have been such power in that wee bit of an item as to be able to keep the hands bound (of a healthy, well-fed male). Although silver duct tape was also found at the crime scene, that duct tape could not be related to that which had been wrapped around any part of the upper extremity (because there had been pictures taken of his upper extremities). Additionally, this duct tape could not be placed around the ankles, knees or other parts of the lower extremities because, unlike the pictures showing Mr. Alexander above the waist, there had been no photos taken that would show any matter below the waist [other than the accidental snap of Mr. Alexander lying in the shower, that did not reveal much].

    When reviewing the material in the evidence record, in search of the identity of the string-like object, it appeared there might have been cast offs of this same material that had already been submitted. Detective Esteban Flores had documented this same type of material that might have been that which connected and intertwined around the hands of Mr. Alexander. What appeared to be tassels or double braids of a thin character had been discovered at the crime scene. Besides being located in the bathroom, more of this same type of material was found on the stairway. If this double braided rope-like material was on the stairway, it had to be left there either before or after the brutal slaying of Mr. Alexander in the upstairs of his residence.

    If this rope-like material was left before the slaying, that would have meant Mr. Alexander had been overpowered while downstairs, bound, and then brought up the stairway. That could be a possibility because someone took great care to clean up the downstairs — which included a thorough cleansing of all of the furniture (not only in and around but) under the furniture from that specific area. A floor cleaner was also used in cleaning up the area. Later on, the Detective would note that this would have been strange, since both of Mr. Alexander’s roommates said the floor cleaner had not been assembled before they saw it in the middle of the downstairs tiled area after the last time they saw Mr. Alexander. In addition, if the tidying up of the downstairs was to cover-up the crime, the clean-up extended to the wiping down and polishing of the banister of the stairway to hide evidence that it could have been used as a brace when pulling [or yanking] the victim up the stairs or as a lean-to when holding a gun on Mr. Alexander while climbing the stairs. If that were the case, he could possibly have suffered the injuries (it appeared he had in the shower photos) before the photos were taken of him reclining in his bed. If taken by surprise and brought up the stairs to take the photos of him naked in his bed, the participation in this picture taking would not have been voluntary. [If he, as the victim, were a woman, most people would have called the attack a rape by now.]

    Then, again, those injuries and the related trauma Mr. Alexander suffered could have been after he had gone upstairs voluntarily and consented to [sado-masochistic] activity where the rope would have been used as a binding agent (or in a bondage procedure). If so, the double-braided material in the stairwell could have been unintentionally dropped there either by falling off the object on which it belonged (that could have been a loose end of a rope) or cast off an article of clothing that it had clung to (and fallen off when the person descended the stairs). At first the item described by Detective Flores, as a tassel or rope-like, was identified by Jodi Arias as possibly part of one of the pillows in the bedroom. But he knew that was untrue because the fibers did not match. As a matter of fact, the fibers of that rope did not match anything in that residence.

    The description provided by Jodi Arias to Detective Flores was in a June 10, 2008 conversation that had been recorded. This conversation occurred less than twenty-four hours after the friend of Mr. Alexander had made that 9-1-1 call when two of the males unlocked the doors to the master bedroom of the residence of Mr. Alexander and noticed his discolored [decomposing] body stuffed in the shower stall with blood throughout the bathroom, wherever the eye could see. {{These men will take to their grave that particular haunting visual that will never, NEVER be able to be wiped from memory.}}

    Under cross-examination on the second day of the Trial, after the June 10, 2008 recording was played, the criminal lawyer Kirk Nurmi cross-examined Detective Esteban Flores. The Detective would identify certain exhibits, starting with exhibit # 270. This was a picture of a piece of fabric with a crime scene Placard [numbered] 8, taken in the bathroom. The fabric was the tassel he had spoken of with Jodi Arias, in the recorded phone conversation of June 10, 2008 that had played earlier for the Jury. Exhibit # 271 was a different angle of the piece of tasseled fabric. Exhibit # 265 showed another distinct piece of rope or tassel. It was also in the bathroom area. Exhibit # 266 was the same tassel that had been pictured in Exhibit # 265, except marked with a Placard [as item] # 3, and taken at a different angle. In the following exhibit, there were three Placards, 2, 3, and 4. There were other items located around that particular piece of tassel. [Placard # 2 and Placard # 4 documented places that contained hair fibers.] Pieces of the rope-like substance were found elsewhere in the home. Exhibit # 268, which was pictured with Placard # 43, was another piece of evidence the Detective described as a tassel. This piece of tassel/rope [that looked more like a piece of a double-braid] was on the stairway leading up to the bedroom. The next exhibit showed the same piece, except without the Placard. In terms of choosing to photograph the items, the Detective was responsible for directing the person on what to photograph. His attention had been brought to the rope, which he thought to be of significance in the investigation.

    In one particular part of the June 10, 2008 audio recording of their phone conversation, Detective Flores had tried to lead Jodi Arias to talk about the bedroom, so that he could get information for, among other items, a rope-like material he had discovered that he knew was somehow related to the murder of his victim. The 9-1-1 call had been made the evening before, and it was less than twenty-four hours later, but he was talking to the person that everyone was pointing to as the only one who could have murdered their friend. At first, Jodi Arias ignored the Detective’s reference to tassels or edging. Then, out of the clear blue, she came up with a story to convince the Detective that the material was something other than what he might have figured out it was. When Jodi Arias was thinking about how to spin the story, she originally disavowed any knowledge of what the Detective told her was a small tan ropish kind of material or edging, like maybe on a blanket. Nevertheless, she would (within seconds) have an ah-ha moment after she could not remember whether the duvet had any type of tassels. Her reply to explain the evidence the Detective had discovered of a ropelike quality was that Travis may have pillows. One can hear a distinct change in her voice, although slight when steering the Detective into her own line of thought that she wanted him to follow [rather than his own]. There was pretense as she raised her voice slightly as though remembering, when she blurted, “Yeah. He had pillows on his, uhmm, on his bed, not on his bed but on the chair that connects to his bed”. She followed that up with a more detailed explanation of where the Detective might be able to find the object that had supplied the tasseled rope. “Yeah. There’s those. Uhhm. There’s also a round pillow that he uses. I make his bed and it’s just one. He puts it in the center. I think maybe there’s some type of tassels on that”. There was no more offered after that. She was not going to give up any more information about the thin rope material. Instead, she was pushing the Detective in a direction he knew to be a wild goose chase. Detective Flores would have to wait until the Trial to hear what Jodi Arias had to offer about this particular piece of evidence that he already knew, since he had seen that type of material before.

    The Detective knew that Jodi Arias was flat out lying. At best, she was merely misleading, which is a kind of a lie anyway. He would have to listen for the inflection in her voice that he thought he detected when he caught her telling him a lie (or misleading him) about that rope-like material. Jodi Arias had the same nuance to her voice when certain other matters related to the crime were mentioned. One in particular was when she pretended to be interested in helping Detective Flores in tracing down the last time that Mr. Alexander had been seen. She combined herself with his other friends as far as communicating by phone. She even provided information he could rely on in order to go on to investigate someone else. She worked hard at being excluded. Jodi Arias would tell him that she looked at her phone records on the Internet and definitely talked to Mr. Alexander on Tuesday night, on her cell phone, which she enunciated was the only phone she had. Since she had that quality he detected when speaking about the tassels or rope he was trying to pin down, he knew he would have to look into her phone or even phones. She wanted him to believe she only had one phone because of the way she had made the statement. So, she had to be misleading. Later, he would discover that she would use the excuse that the cell phone with the alleged sex-tape had been stolen sometime in May and not found until after she had been incarcerated. He would learn that her original Motorola RAZR cell phone was purportedly the one that received two images of an erect penis (November 11, 2006) except that phone had been put out of commission before Gus Searcy gave her the Helio Ocean that was stolen [and thusly could only be downloaded off her computer, not a phone]. She was slick with her phone records, and it would be hard trying to trace down which phone she had been using while on her journey to kill Mr. Alexander, but this was something that needed to be investigated — just like the existence of that rope.

    Since she had proof that she was corresponding with Mr. Alexander, she should not have been in trouble. After all, she could provide the e-mail she sent to him June 7, 2008. Jodi Arias would provide information to Detective Flores to further deflect attention from her, like her concern for Mr. Alexander after his tires had been slashed in December of the year before (which he heard from all of those already questioned had been her doing). And, she provided helpful information as to whom the Detective could look into as the perpetrators. She seemed to point to gangbangers and Mormons. She did not actually state the Mormons had done it, but she reflected on the location of one of Mr. Alexander’s current roommates, Zachary Billings, and one of his former roommates, Thomas Brown. She also said she knew various other Mormon roommates. One guy moved out, one guy moved to Utah, and one guy moved to Phoenix. She nudged him in the direction of one Mormon when telling a story that Mr. Alexander worried about his roommate following the Word of Wisdom prohibiting alcohol, even though he accepted the excuse provided by Mr. Billings. In the case of Mr. Brown, he had supposedly been ousted for bad behavior of a sexual nature. Detective Flores had listened to her story, but he still could not quite grasp what she had been alluding. She had stated that while Mr. Brown was a roommate of Mr. Alexander he had been disfellowshipped for being a borderline sexual predator in March of 2007. She had also said something about this being over the phone. He did not quite understand what she meant by that since he had never heard of a Mormon’s relationship with the Church to be broken-up over the phone. Jodi Arias had managed to paint a picture in the Detective’s mind that Mr. Brown could have been a bad character since he was thuggish and seemed to have violent tendencies when it came to sex. If he did not know any better, it seemed that she was trying to focus the attention of the investigation on Mormons as a whole.

    All things considered, whatever had happened did not make this an average run-of-the-mill crime. Whoever had done this crime had put a lot of thought into it beforehand. [That is called premeditation.] Whoever had murdered Mr. Alexander by possibly first trussing him up like a pig and then butchering him was nothing short of evil. This diabolical character had to be exposed. To do that, the crime had to be understood. So, proper recognition of the rope-like material was of vast importance. The way that the rope-like material was remembered by Jodi Arias showed her knowledge of that small piece of evidence. This can be heard in her voice on that audio recording of June 10, 2008. In that reaction, it was known that Jodi Arias would diminish the meaning of this material until she decided to use it herself. Much later, at the Trial of this creature for the murder of an innocent, Mr. Alexander, she would talk about this stringlike or ropelike material (that also could have tassels connected to it) as a rope she had used for bondage. However, she failed to properly report what Mr. Alexander’s role was in the bondage.

    Besides the declaration by Jodi Arias that the rope existed (which can not be believed since nothing she says can be believed), it can be indubitably reported that the rope did exist, and the evidence record supports this. However, it does not support the next story that is already being conjured within the small mind of this malignant narcissist. Details of her next tall tale have already been divulged by her lackey, Bryan Carr. All the same, after her conviction for the murder of Mr. Alexander, she is going to find that her new story can not be supported because it has already been discredited [in the next chapter].

  53. Sue Grantham
    03/07/2013 at 8:44 am

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1985293

    Please tell the prosecutor to review this pic carefully- its one of the ones she “deleted” and they found the camera in the washer- in the very bottom right corner, a .25 caliber gun barrel is visable-JA has Travis at gunpoint- shesnapped this photo and cropped out his facial expression- I think this is when he lunged and tried to disarm her and shot while doing so- which would explain the neatness of the closet- i think he got up and was looking in the mirror and she began her brutal stabbing assult.

  54. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 10:08 am

    WOW! Sue, it sure does look like a gun. I don’t believe he was shot at that time though, the forensics don’t support that theory. But it sure may have been when she stabbed him in the heart.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 11:06 am

      I beleive he tried to dis-arm her in the bathroom and was shot in the bathroom- he went tothe bathroom sink and she continued the attack from behind with the knife and when he turned around she slashed his throat- he ran after her and collapsed at the doorway- it would cerainly explain why the closet (where she got the supposed gun) was so neat and tidy.

  55. N
    03/07/2013 at 10:27 am

    Observer :

    mary :
    Does anybody know if there is any pictorial evidence of TA’s bedroom showing a house phone? Also, did TA own these alleged gas cans they would take on long trips? We only have cell phones here so that could be the truth although there is no way she ever planned on calling anyone.

    There may not have been a landline upstairs but Travis would take his cell phone upstairs. I’m sure he was trying to get to his call phone in the bedroom as she was stabbing him and bled out on the rug before he could get to it. She lured him into the shower knowing he wouldn’t take his cell phone in the shower and couldn’t call 911. She didn’t call 911 because she wanted him dead.
    She said it was Daryl who would take the gas cans when they went on trips. She never owned any gas cans.

    According to the police report… his cell phone was found downstairs in his office with his laptop.

  56. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 10:28 am

    Observer :

    mary :
    Does anybody know if there is any pictorial evidence of TA’s bedroom showing a house phone? Also, did TA own these alleged gas cans they would take on long trips? We only have cell phones here so that could be the truth although there is no way she ever planned on calling anyone.

    There may not have been a landline upstairs but Travis would take his cell phone upstairs. I’m sure he was trying to get to his call phone in the bedroom as she was stabbing him and bled out on the rug before he could get to it. She lured him into the shower knowing he wouldn’t take his cell phone in the shower and couldn’t call 911. She didn’t call 911 because she wanted him dead.
    She said it was Daryl who would take the gas cans when they went on trips. She never owned any gas cans.

    According to the police report… his cell phone was found downstairs in his office along with his laptop.

  57. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 10:29 am

    Sue Grantham :
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1985293
    Please tell the prosecutor to review this pic carefully- its one of the ones she “deleted” and they found the camera in the washer- in the very bottom right corner, a .25 caliber gun barrel is visable-JA has Travis at gunpoint- shesnapped this photo and cropped out his facial expression- I think this is when he lunged and tried to disarm her and shot while doing so- which would explain the neatness of the closet- i think he got up and was looking in the mirror and she began her brutal stabbing assult.

    Are you referring to the photo of TA sitting in the shower? If so, I believe what you’re seeing is the tip of a pen used to point at the photo during testimony.

  58. Rache
    03/07/2013 at 10:33 am

    Shannon :
    Rache- She said she believed it was a derogatory term towards women! I wish the juror had asked why he called her it. I found a few of the questions strange. I was on a CA grand jury. Only in the grand jury can you ask questions of witnesses, and some of the questions would make me think ” Were you not listening to the testimony?” I just hope none of the jurors go on strange tangents during deliberation.

    Thanks for answering. I have the same fear about the jury….Jean Casarez actually said she thought many of Jodi’s explanations were plausible. I really was discouraged when she said that.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 11:02 am

      Jodi has confessed- the ONLY thing that the jury has to determine is whether it butchery was “self-defense”.

  59. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 10:45 am

    I wanted to check something in the autopsy report but I can no longer locate it online. Do any of you have a link for it? Thanks in advance.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 10:59 am

      its on the Huffington Post website

  60. Sue Grantham
    03/07/2013 at 11:01 am

    those photos were removed by forensic pd. that is not a ‘pen” from the proseutor- those are the actual photos from the camera found in the wash- like the other ones. so unless the prosecutor was at the scene at the time of the murder- its not a “pen” its a barrel on a .25

  61. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 11:29 am

    Sue Grantham :
    those photos were removed by forensic pd. that is not a ‘pen” from the proseutor- those are the actual photos from the camera found in the wash- like the other ones. so unless the prosecutor was at the scene at the time of the murder- its not a “pen” its a barrel on a .25

    Not trying to argue… But if you keep looking at the pictures you can see fingers holding them as well as what, IMO, is a pen tip. The very next photo shows a finger tip and maybe five or six later is a photo of TA’s hand at the autopsy and in this one you can see almost the whole pen. These photos are screen shots not the actual photos. If they were the actual photos then you would see the time stamps on all of them as well. Almost everyone is extremely passionate about seeing justice for Travis as I am sure the detectives and prosecutor are in the brutal murder. If you could see the gun in any of the photos, the whole world would have been told in open court. Not to mention per the ME the gun shot was last as there was no bleeding in his head.

  62. 03/07/2013 at 11:30 am

    Rache :

    Shannon :
    Rache- She said she believed it was a derogatory term towards women! I wish the juror had asked why he called her it. I found a few of the questions strange. I was on a CA grand jury. Only in the grand jury can you ask questions of witnesses, and some of the questions would make me think ” Were you not listening to the testimony?” I just hope none of the jurors go on strange tangents during deliberation.

    Thanks for answering. I have the same fear about the jury….Jean Casarez actually said she thought many of Jodi’s explanations were plausible. I really was discouraged when she said that.

    Jean Casarez is in the minority. I would not listen to her at all.

  63. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 11:32 am

    Nienna :

    Sue Grantham :
    those photos were removed by forensic pd. that is not a ‘pen” from the proseutor- those are the actual photos from the camera found in the wash- like the other ones. so unless the prosecutor was at the scene at the time of the murder- its not a “pen” its a barrel on a .25

    Not trying to argue… But if you keep looking at the pictures you can see fingers holding them as well as what, IMO, is a pen tip. The very next photo shows a finger tip and maybe five or six later is a photo of TA’s hand at the autopsy and in this one you can see almost the whole pen. These photos are screen shots not the actual photos. If they were the actual photos then you would see the time stamps on all of them as well. Almost everyone is extremely passionate about seeing justice for Travis as I am sure the detectives and prosecutor are in the brutal murder. If you could see the gun in any of the photos, the whole world would have been told in open court. Not to mention per the ME the gun shot was last as there was no bleeding in his head.

    Sorry, not five or six later….. picture 25

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:47 pm

      again- for everyone: the prosecuotr was NOT at the crime scene nor was he present when the camera was fished out of the washer – these photos are photos that JA took and tried to delete- these are evidence – no one can alter them.

  64. Rache
    03/07/2013 at 11:40 am

    Sue Grantham :
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1985293
    Please tell the prosecutor to review this pic carefully- its one of the ones she “deleted” and they found the camera in the washer- in the very bottom right corner, a .25 caliber gun barrel is visable-JA has Travis at gunpoint- shesnapped this photo and cropped out his facial expression- I think this is when he lunged and tried to disarm her and shot while doing so- which would explain the neatness of the closet- i think he got up and was looking in the mirror and she began her brutal stabbing assult.

    I tried to view the photo….but I only got slide shows. Can you tell me how to get to it? I really want to see it. Thanks a lot.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:41 pm

      you have to wait for it to load- it will bring you to the picture directly- its #19 of the slide show- hit the link again and just wait a moment.

  65. Nancy Pennington
    03/07/2013 at 11:41 am

    I think the crime scene investigators would have studied the pictures from top to bottom and sideways so if that was a gun in the picture they would know it. Also the forensics say he was Not shot in the shower.. I think she may have stabbed him in the chest or stomach while he was in the shower and her story about him lunging at her may be true. He may have jumped at her to take the knife away and did knock her to the floor and was on top of her trying to get the knife away(evidenced by the wounds to his hands) . While he was on top of her and bleeding from the frontal stab or stabs she had her arm behind him and was stabbing him in the back. He may have then gotten up or she rolled out from underneath him and HE tried to get away, leaving the trail of blood in the hall and into the bedroom. If he was now crawling to get away from her she could have gotten behind him, yanked his hair to pull his head back and slit his throat. Or she could have done that while he was leaning over the sink. Since the forensics say he was Probably shot last, my guess is that another of her statements may be true. That is when she said that he wouldn’t stop. Did she mean he wouldn’t stop trying to fight or stop trying to get away or just plain lie down and die. I certainly realize this is all conjecture on my part but this case has taken over my life. I too, like someone on this site already said, thought after the Casey Anthony trial I would never allow myself to become so emotionally involved. As you can tell that isn’t working out so well for me. As a side note—I reread this to check for spelling etc. and realize that I mentioned twice that JA may have actually told the truth(IMO) which kind of scares me since I am comvinced she doesn’t know the meaning of the truth.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:45 pm

      I absolutely see it differntly than you do- did you hear her explanation yesterday when she was describing the shower area—-” i dropped the gun…er….camera- I replayed it twice- she said gun

  66. Rache
    03/07/2013 at 11:52 am

    Rache :

    Sue Grantham :
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1985293
    Please tell the prosecutor to review this pic carefully- its one of the ones she “deleted” and they found the camera in the washer- in the very bottom right corner, a .25 caliber gun barrel is visable-JA has Travis at gunpoint- shesnapped this photo and cropped out his facial expression- I think this is when he lunged and tried to disarm her and shot while doing so- which would explain the neatness of the closet- i think he got up and was looking in the mirror and she began her brutal stabbing assult.

    I tried to view the photo….but I only got slide shows. Can you tell me how to get to it? I really want to see it. Thanks a lot.

    Rache :

    Sue Grantham :
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1985293
    Please tell the prosecutor to review this pic carefully- its one of the ones she “deleted” and they found the camera in the washer- in the very bottom right corner, a .25 caliber gun barrel is visable-JA has Travis at gunpoint- shesnapped this photo and cropped out his facial expression- I think this is when he lunged and tried to disarm her and shot while doing so- which would explain the neatness of the closet- i think he got up and was looking in the mirror and she began her brutal stabbing assult.

    I tried to view the photo….but I only got slide shows. Can you tell me how to get to it? I really want to see it. Thanks a lot.

    Duh….nevermind…I realize the photo that first appears is the one you are talking about.

  67. hottopic08
    03/07/2013 at 11:54 am

    This is something I hope the jury ponders. When the juror question asked Jodi to run through the attack on 06/04, using the floor plan, I wondered how much time it took her to describe the events. I pulled up the youtube video of yesterday’s testimony and noted the time when her response began and ended starting from the time of her actual description (not from when they were trying to get the diagram on the screen) and the end time of her answer. It took her 0:03:35 (h:m:s) to run through the attack. One minute and 35 seconds longer (approx) from what we know shows on the time stamped photos submitted into evidence. Anyone with half a brain already knows there is no possible way everything she says took place could have occurred in the time elapsed shown on the photos. Looking at it from this perspective makes it all the more unbelievable that all of what she says happened could have taken place in 2 minutes if it took her longer to describe the events than the occurrence of the actual events! Geesh, I think I’ve confused myself trying to get that thought out, off for coffee!

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:40 pm

      Speaking of that- did you hear what JA said: I dropped the gun…er…camera…..

  68. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 12:00 pm

    Sue Grantham, I agree that the only thing that the jury has to determine is whether it is self defense or first degree murder.

    I don’t believe Jodi got the gun out of her purse until after she stabbed Travis 29 times. It was either she shot him to make sure he was dead or she shot him to look like there were two assailants. His watch and ring were sitting on the kitchen counter. His roommate said he never took them off. Jodi may have taken them to stage a burglary but in her haste to get away, forgot to take them.

    Dr. Horn, the medical examiner, testified that the slashing of the throat, stab through the heart otr gunshot in the brain would have killed him. Dr. Horn testified that there was no bleeding of the brain so he was dead when she shot him. His defensive wounds on his hands showed he tried to take the knife away.

    Based on the medical examiner’s report, the blood evidence and the camera stamps on the photos taken during the attack, I believe Jodi lured Travis in the shower on the pretense of a photo shoot, instructed him to sit down and look into the camera lens to distract him, then grabbed the knife from her back pocket and stabbed him in the belly or chest and kept stabbing as he tried to take the knife away. The camera dropped as she was attacking him and took pictures as it was kicked during the attack.

    Travis either crawled or staggered to the sink and held onto it spitting blood while she stabbed him between the shoulder blades and back of the head. He stumbled towards the bedroom hanging onto the wall as she kept stabbing him in the back and chest until he slid down the wall at the bedroom entrance where he collapsed and she stabbed him in the heart and slit his throat. He bled out on the bedroom rug.

    Then she flooded the bathroom floor with water so she could drag his dead body back to the bathroom and shot him in the head at the sink and then put his body in the shower to wash it off. She cleaned up the blood on the floor but not in the sink and on the walls.

    Only two minutes lapsed between the last picture of him alive sitting in the shower and the picture of her dragging his dead body with his throat cut back to the bathroom.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:43 pm

      Observer: I respectfully disagree with your assertion- I own a .25 caliber and it is exactly as shown in that photo-

  69. 03/07/2013 at 12:17 pm

    those photos were removed by forensic pd. that is not a ‘pen” from the proseutor- those are the actual photos from the camera found in the wash- like the other ones. so unless the prosecutor was at the scene at the time of the murder- its not a “pen” its a barrel on a .25

    You’re wrong. If you look through the other pictures in that same slide-show you will see the pen in several of them. These pictures are not the originals that the court has, they are pictures of the originals taken by journalists during court proceedings; that is why the photos are credited “pool camera” not “Mesa PD” or some-such.

    Do you honestly think the investigators in the case would have missed something so obvious? The ME stated he believed the gun shot was *last* as Mr. Alexander would have been unconscious after the bullet went through that part of his brain. She shot him to make sure the job was done. ME says he may have already been dead when shot because there wasn’t much bleeding or bruising from the bullet wound.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:39 pm

      Kristen those were photos from the crime scene (prosecutor was not present) none of those pics have been touched by anyone- forensics were able to retrieve them from the camera in the washer, Jodi thought she deleted them. Pen? Seriously- as if they would allow photos that have been altered in any way by anyone. Added note- I own a .25 caliber- and it is indeed the barrel of the gun….. the ME stated he died from the blood loss not gs wound.

  70. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 12:23 pm

    Sue Grantham :

    its on the Huffington Post website

    Sue, If you have a link I would greatly appreciate it. I have looked on HP and all that comes up are a myriad of articles that don’t have a link for the autopsy report. Thanks

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:35 pm

      Please look at the link below- it’s a pic of her holding a gun on him (bottom right corner- the barrel is visible) she took this photo (cropping out his expression), thought she deleted the photo and they found the camera in the washer. This was moments before his death. I think he lunged at her to dis-arm her and was shot in the bathroom (would explain the neat closet area) when he looked at himself in the mirror- she began the brutal assault of stabbing him in the back-when he turned around she gashed his throat- she went running and he only got as far as the hallway- she dragged him back to the shower and began to attempt to destroy the evidence at that point.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1985293

  71. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 12:29 pm

    Rache :

    Sue Grantham :
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1985293
    Please tell the prosecutor to review this pic carefully- its one of the ones she “deleted” and they found the camera in the washer- in the very bottom right corner, a .25 caliber gun barrel is visable-JA has Travis at gunpoint- shesnapped this photo and cropped out his facial expression- I think this is when he lunged and tried to disarm her and shot while doing so- which would explain the neatness of the closet- i think he got up and was looking in the mirror and she began her brutal stabbing assult.

    I tried to view the photo….but I only got slide shows. Can you tell me how to get to it? I really want to see it. Thanks a lot.

    Rache – It’s picture 19

  72. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 12:35 pm

    Observer – the scenario that you describe sounds accurate and is in sync with what Dr Horn testified to and what all the forensic evidence tells us.

  73. Anna Eaton
    03/07/2013 at 12:37 pm

    Observer :
    Sue Grantham, I agree that the only thing that the jury has to determine is whether it is self defense or first degree murder.
    I don’t believe Jodi got the gun out of her purse until after she stabbed Travis 29 times. It was either she shot him to make sure he was dead or she shot him to look like there were two assailants. His watch and ring were sitting on the kitchen counter. His roommate said he never took them off. Jodi may have taken them to stage a burglary but in her haste to get away, forgot to take them.
    Dr. Horn, the medical examiner, testified that the slashing of the throat, stab through the heart otr gunshot in the brain would have killed him. Dr. Horn testified that there was no bleeding of the brain so he was dead when she shot him. His defensive wounds on his hands showed he tried to take the knife away.
    Based on the medical examiner’s report, the blood evidence and the camera stamps on the photos taken during the attack, I believe Jodi lured Travis in the shower on the pretense of a photo shoot, instructed him to sit down and look into the camera lens to distract him, then grabbed the knife from her back pocket and stabbed him in the belly or chest and kept stabbing as he tried to take the knife away. The camera dropped as she was attacking him and took pictures as it was kicked during the attack.
    Travis either crawled or staggered to the sink and held onto it spitting blood while she stabbed him between the shoulder blades and back of the head. He stumbled towards the bedroom hanging onto the wall as she kept stabbing him in the back and chest until he slid down the wall at the bedroom entrance where he collapsed and she stabbed him in the heart and slit his throat. He bled out on the bedroom rug.
    Then she flooded the bathroom floor with water so she could drag his dead body back to the bathroom and shot him in the head at the sink and then put his body in the shower to wash it off. She cleaned up the blood on the floor but not in the sink and on the walls.
    Only two minutes lapsed between the last picture of him alive sitting in the shower and the picture of her dragging his dead body with his throat cut back to the bathroom.

    Great description, I think. And I think that the jury should wonder this: if things went down the way she said it did, she would have had all sorts of injuries on her body, even to her head, that people in Utah would have noticed. And she would have been very sore from that “body slam” (yeah, right. Amazing how she was able to get up after that.). Oh, and while she’s making up the story of Travis attacking her, she shows absolutely no fear whatsoever. Guilty as charged. Death.

  74. Anna Eaton
    03/07/2013 at 12:48 pm

    Oh my gosh, you guys have got to see this video:

    Ya know, the more I see of Travis, the more I like him. He reminds me of some guys I knew in high school. Such a fun, normal guy who came from a terrible upbringing. (And if you haven’t heard that story it’s still up on his myspace page.)

  75. JesusFreak
    03/07/2013 at 12:53 pm

    Observer :

    hottopic08 :

    When asked the question did the Book of Mormon go into detail regarding chastity, in her answer she used some of the same specific words she used in the email letter to Lisa, (whoredom and unclean). Has the jury seen that email? Loved this question, Q: Did you ever see a doctor for your memory issues? First thing that popped in my mind was ” I don’t remember “!

    The jury wasn’t shown that email because the state can’t prove Jodi wrote it.
    12-08-07 – The day after Travis’s tires were slashed for the second day in a row while he was at Lisa’s house, Lisa receives this email from a John Doe which Lisa knew came from Jodi Arias:
    “You are a shameful whore. Your Heavenly Father must deeply be ashamed of the whoredoms you committed with that insidious man. If you let him stay in your bed one more time or even sleep under the same roof as him, you will be giving the appearance of evil. You are driving away the Holy Ghost and you are wasting your time. You are also compromising your salvation and breaking your baptismal covenants. Of all the commandments to break, committing acts of whoredom is one of the most displeasing in the eyes of the Lord. You cannot be ashamed enough of yourself. You are filthy and you need to repent in the eyes of God. Think about your future husband and how you disrespect not only yourself, but him as well as the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Is that what you want for yourself? Your future, your salvation and your posterity is resting on your choices and actions. You are a daughter of God, and you have been a shameful example. Be thou clean, sin no more. Heavenly Father loves you and wants you to make the right choices. I know you are strong enough to choose the right. Your Father in Heaven is pulling for you. Don’t ignore the promptings you receive because they are vital to your well being.”

  76. JesusFreak
    03/07/2013 at 12:55 pm

    oops. did it wrong. i wanted to ask, why can a computer guru trace emails back to their owner and yet this one email can not be traced?

  77. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 12:58 pm

    I especially liked the question that asked if she was angry when she was stabbing Travis. Martinez objected and stated that she has said that she has no memory of stabbing and that if she does that she should testify to that but the Judge over ruled him and allowed Jodi to answer – also noting that Jodi spoke up herself and told the Judge that she remembers emotions!!! How in the hell does she remember her emotion during the stabbing event if she does not remember the stabbing???

  78. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 1:05 pm

    Nienna :

    Nienna :

    Sue Grantham :
    those photos were removed by forensic pd. that is not a ‘pen” from the proseutor- those are the actual photos from the camera found in the wash- like the other ones. so unless the prosecutor was at the scene at the time of the murder- its not a “pen” its a barrel on a .25

    Not trying to argue… But if you keep looking at the pictures you can see fingers holding them as well as what, IMO, is a pen tip. The very next photo shows a finger tip and maybe five or six later is a photo of TA’s hand at the autopsy and in this one you can see almost the whole pen. These photos are screen shots not the actual photos. If they were the actual photos then you would see the time stamps on all of them as well. Almost everyone is extremely passionate about seeing justice for Travis as I am sure the detectives and prosecutor are in the brutal murder. If you could see the gun in any of the photos, the whole world would have been told in open court. Not to mention per the ME the gun shot was last as there was no bleeding in his head.

    Sorry, not five or six later….. picture 25

    Sue –
    If you check the photos carefully they are screen grabs which is shown at the bottom with the
    credit “In Session – Pool Camera”. As it is, some are much darker than when they were shown in court. If they had copies, they would be much clearer and better quality, imho.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 2:51 pm

      not trying to convince anyone of anything- I pray the jury is more astute

  79. 03/07/2013 at 1:22 pm

    WOW!! Red today , the power color. Noticing that when she answers a question and cannot complete her lie she repeats her last comment. She is acting more pathetic today gets that ‘stupid’ look on her face. I wish someone would ask her ‘since when is a pedophile beautiful inside’?

  80. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 1:23 pm

    I was wrong about Jodi having overnight to prepare for the questions not yet answered from the first batch yesterday. Sorry about that.

    Chris Williams @chriswnewsBecause
    I’ve seen this tweeted & here’s a #JodiArias jury question fact: ct PIO says only originals of questions exist .each side given same amt of time to read #JodiArias juror questions then the judge regained custody of originals. No copies made. #Arias

  81. 03/07/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Could not answer if she would have told the truth if she had not been caught……wth if I were a juror that would be it.

    Yesterday one of the sisters’ husband/boyfriend was so gently rubbing her shoulder and that touched me so. How low can she go in spewing forth all this garbage and not one iota of her doing anything wrong during their relationship.

    Thanks to all for your insightful comments. Good reading.

  82. 03/07/2013 at 1:45 pm

    Goof-not with, if I were a juror……

  83. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 1:58 pm

    I wonder if JA has EVER had a period of time in her life where she has not had a boy/man in her life, whether they were on or off or in-between

    Inquiring minds want to know. LOL.

  84. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 2:03 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Our tweeters are more interested in where #JodiArias got the herpes from rather than rehashed stories of breakups.

    I wonder if she is spreading the wealth throughout all the inmates where she is currently housed or just saving it for someone special that she is not constantly breaking up/getting back together with?

  85. Laine
    03/07/2013 at 2:11 pm

    NancyB :

    Sue Grantham :
    its on the Huffington Post website

    Sue, If you have a link I would greatly appreciate it. I have looked on HP and all that comes up are a myriad of articles that don’t have a link for the autopsy report. Thanks

    Hi Nancy

    The autopsyreport is on In session – cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/redactedtravisautopsy.pdf
    Hope this works for you! if not search google for travis alexander autopsy report pdf and it should come up

  86. GN5020
    03/07/2013 at 2:17 pm

    JA might be acting cool on the stand, but that big herpes blister on the left side of her bottom lip shows the stress of lying to the jury is effecting her.

  87. PK
    03/07/2013 at 2:35 pm

    Jodi would never commit suicide, she is a narcissistic sociopath, after all, but she has done her research on the subject to prepare for her lame “I didn’t plan to be around so a jury will never convict me” lie number 2, 666,666. Her response to how many times she had tried to commit suicide where she responded just the once followed by her stating that she just engaged in suicidal ideation thereafter spoke volumes about her nearly five year preparation for the best performance of her life, and let’s hope soon to be her last.

    Ideation is a seldom used word typically associated with suicidal thoughts and Jodi must have learned that word in the prison library while preparing for her “throw everybody and anybody under the bus with particular emphasis on “de-edifying” while she is edifying Travis to suit her most recent story line.

  88. Laine
    03/07/2013 at 2:55 pm

    MMD :WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrialOur tweeters are more interested in where #JodiArias got the herpes from rather than rehashed stories of breakups.
    I wonder if she is spreading the wealth throughout all the inmates where she is currently housed or just saving it for someone special that she is not constantly breaking up/getting back together with?

    MMD That cracked me up!!! I’m sure the gf is not happy! Did anyone else hear her say yesterday I’m not gay…her gf respectfully disagrees lol

  89. Trial watcher
    03/07/2013 at 3:04 pm

    These questions being asked from the jury tell me that JAA has just beat the death penalty.
    ABSOLUTELY NO WAY are we going to have 7 women on that jury that would go for death.at least one will have some attitude about TA due to some crap thing in their own life
    We’,ll be lucky if she doesn’t get off like the last trial which no one will ever forget, the CA
    aquittall!! can we get so unlucky again or should I ask, Do we have a similar jury that just don’t get it? Lets hope not!! We shall see what the end result is soon but not soon enough for me. Prayers go out to the Alexander family during this horrible time in their family.

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 3:16 pm

      You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I haven’t, other than Arias’ testiphony, seen one shred of evidence supporting her abuse claim. IMHO, the jury questions have been insightful and indicate they aren’t buying anything she says!

  90. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 3:06 pm

    JesusFreak :
    i wanted to ask, why can a computer guru trace emails back to their owner and yet this one email can not be traced?

    The email probably wouldn’t be allowed as evidence anyway. The judge has to be careful because a guilty verdict can be overturned if a higher court finds the jury was prejudiced against Jodi because she was stalking him and girlfriends. The prosecutor needs to prove first degree murder with evidence and forensics.

    That’s why the judge did not allow any questions to Jodi from the defense, prosecutor or jury regarding Jodi stalking Travis and slashing his tires and tampering with a witness. The 911 caller and Mimi Hall mention the stalking and slashing of tires and that Jodi Arias was the one they thought killed Travis. Martinez got into evidence the magazines with the code so the jury has that information in front of them. He will tie it all together in his closing statement. It’s better she isn’t asked about it because she would just deny and lie anyway.

  91. Trial watcher
    03/07/2013 at 3:08 pm

    a comment about JAA’s testimony It is NOT deedify. It is DISEDIFY!!!
    Stupid Jody is she still in her fog?. OH CRAP!! as JODY would say… LOL LOL>

  92. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 3:10 pm

    OMG – Beth Karas just said that she had to point out that de-edify is not a word!!!! Thank you, thank you Beth!!! JA has been using that as well as edify non-stop the past couple of days and it’s been driving me nutssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  93. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 3:14 pm

    Laine :

    MMD :WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrialOur tweeters are more interested in where #JodiArias got the herpes from rather than rehashed stories of breakups.
    I wonder if she is spreading the wealth throughout all the inmates where she is currently housed or just saving it for someone special that she is not constantly breaking up/getting back together with?

    MMD That cracked me up!!! I’m sure the gf is not happy! Did anyone else hear her say yesterday I’m not gay…her gf respectfully disagrees lol

    Laine – yep I heard her. Now you know there is no way in hell that JA is going without sex for all this time that she has been incarcerated. This is the woman that would drive 1,000 miles for sex!

    But what else do you expect – she is totally incapable of telling the truth anyway! 🙂

  94. Trial watcher
    03/07/2013 at 3:16 pm

    the 200,00 cheque JA left for TA; was that pay $200 pass go and DO NOT GO TO JAIL?
    Scary thought is it not??

  95. Trial watcher
    03/07/2013 at 3:18 pm

    Testiphony!! Love it!!

  96. donchais
    03/07/2013 at 3:23 pm

    OK folks…Sue firmly believes what she sees in the photo is a gun barrel…some of you believe it’s the tip of a ball point pen. We have now crossed over to beating a dead horse, so can we just move on please?

    Thx

  97. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 3:24 pm

    donchais :
    OK folks…Sue firmly believes what she sees in the photo is a gun barrel…some of you believe it’s the tip of a ball point pen. We have now crossed over to beating a dead horse, so can we just move on please?
    Thx

    Thank you donchais! 🙂

  98. GN5020
    03/07/2013 at 3:29 pm

    The HLN talking heads are discussing whether the jury is asking questions because they aren’t convinced she is lying. I think just the opposite. After having to listen to her for days, they are ticked off enough at her “fog and lies” that they want to use these questions to call her on her obvious BS.

  99. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 3:29 pm

    MMD :
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Our tweeters are more interested in where #JodiArias got the herpes from rather than rehashed stories of breakups.
    I wonder if she is spreading the wealth throughout all the inmates where she is currently housed or just saving it for someone special that she is not constantly breaking up/getting back together with?

    lmao! For the last two days all I can think when I see her is…. that sh*t on your lip’s got some sh*t on it lip! 🙂

  100. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 3:30 pm

    Earlier in the JA testiphony I’m pretty sure that when asked she said that she was able to get to the gun by climbing up and reached for it. She stressed that she only had to use one hand. She was pretty emphatic with JM.

    Now yesterday and today she is saying that she had to grab one shelf with her left hand and probably used her right hand to grab the gun.

    Anybody else pick that up or am I hearing things?

  101. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 3:36 pm

    Anna Eaton :
    Oh my gosh, you guys have got to see this video:



    Ya know, the more I see of Travis, the more I like him. He reminds me of some guys I knew in high school. Such a fun, normal guy who came from a terrible upbringing. (And if you haven’t heard that story it’s still up on his myspace page.)

    I’ve seen this but never noticed her! It definitely looks like JA. Her head/arm come back into view at 1:28-ish and you can pause it to get a look at “the finger”. I can’t tell if it looks bent or not because of how she is holding the camera and there is debate about this in the comments. Be interested to find out when this video was made. It was posted in June 2008 but looks like there is Christmas decorations up. If it was done in December and it is bent that blows her story out the water. Not that believe a word she ever said anyways.

    Also, I believe I saw this on Dr. Drew and they said it was at the singles ward.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 4:21 pm

      @nienna- Mormon- no ‘Christmas”- lol

      • donchais
        03/07/2013 at 4:24 pm

        Sue,What does that mean? I don’t understand. “Mormon, no Christmas’?

  102. Anonymous
    03/07/2013 at 3:47 pm

    GAS CANS. There were three gas cans. The gas receipts prove it. The first gas receipt was for the car. The second for $40.00 and 9.67 gallons of gas. The third receipt was for $20.00 HALF THE AMOUNT OF THE SECOND, yet they keep saying it was only for 2.34 gallons of gas. IMPOSSIBLE. It was for 4.83 gallons, half of the $40.00 receipt. DO THE MATH. No one is picking up on this. The jury question even mentioned 2 gallons of gas.

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 4:17 pm

      The jury is making her prove self-defense- she has already confessed- I think the gun issue is way more important- she stole the gun and brought it with her-rented a vehicle- no one but her and Travis knew she would be there- attempted at deleting photos, threw the camera in the washer- admitted to “throwing the gun” out- she had the presence of mind- no fog-lied to her “bf” Ryan- sent fake e-mails & texts to dead body…..a blind man could see this premeditation

  103. Diana
    03/07/2013 at 3:56 pm

    hope the Mr. Martinez grills her about how Mr Alexander “talked to her and came after her” after she shot him point blank range with a gun….as a nurse, this is quite unbelievable…and a great sticking point for the jury to focus on!

    • Sue Grantham
      03/07/2013 at 4:19 pm

      @diana: check this out: Please look at the link below- give it a second to load- it’s a pic of her holding a gun on him (bottom right corner- the barrel is visible)

      Edit by Admin

      • donchais
        03/07/2013 at 4:33 pm

        I asked politely that we stop beating this dead horse and move on. The subject is now verboten and no additional comments will be approved for publication.

        Please respect the request and honor it!

  104. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 4:00 pm

    I would bet money that the judge is as fed up with Wurmi and JA as we are!!!!!!! Any takers???? 🙂

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 4:01 pm

      sucker bet

  105. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 4:09 pm

    If she has the colossal nerve to say one more time…”when Travis passed away” I think I’ll barf!

  106. Anna Eaton
    03/07/2013 at 4:12 pm

    Nienna :

    Anna Eaton :
    Oh my gosh, you guys have got to see this video:



    Ya know, the more I see of Travis, the more I like him. He reminds me of some guys I knew in high school. Such a fun, normal guy who came from a terrible upbringing. (And if you haven’t heard that story it’s still up on his myspace page.)

    I’ve seen this but never noticed her! It definitely looks like JA. Her head/arm come back into view at 1:28-ish and you can pause it to get a look at “the finger”. I can’t tell if it looks bent or not because of how she is holding the camera and there is debate about this in the comments. Be interested to find out when this video was made. It was posted in June 2008 but looks like there is Christmas decorations up. If it was done in December and it is bent that blows her story out the water. Not that believe a word she ever said anyways.
    Also, I believe I saw this on Dr. Drew and they said it was at the singles ward.

    Sorry, I’m a relative newbie to this whole thing. But this here old woman is now hooked! Shopping for food is now timed during breaks. Sad, I know. Anyway, I cannot wait for the day Travis gets his justice here on earth and we get the chance to recollect our senses and move on. JA constantly makes me want to lose my breakfast.

  107. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 4:13 pm

    Laine, Many Thanks!

  108. Janet
    03/07/2013 at 4:15 pm

    Ok.

    MMD :I would bet money that the judge is as fed up with Wurmi and JA as we are!!!!!!! Any takers????

    God I wish!! To me it doesn’t seem to bother her.. I was going to ask,……why the hell is it the Squirmi/JA show again??? I thought he was DONE!!! ….Now if JM doesn’t get anymore chance to question her, I’ll be pissed!! I’m not feeling that this jury is going to give her the death penalty

  109. Observer
    03/07/2013 at 4:20 pm

    I tuned in to see if Martinez was up to bat and saw Squimy Wurmi dragging out Jackasses suicide letters. She wrote a sympathy card to his grandmother and an 18 page letter to Travis’s family giving blow by blow description of how masked intruders killed Travis and she got away. She admitted she lied in those writings so why isn’t she lying now? She also admitted, she did it to avoid consequences of butchering Travis. Suicide would be avoiding the consequences of a trial and a death sentence. Except she doesn’t want to die. She just wants to get sympathy and get away with murder.

    I hope the jury is thinking, “Well, you want to die but were too chicken to take your own life. So we’ll help you out and give you what you want: a needle in the arm and a trip to hell where you will burn for eternity.”

  110. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 4:20 pm

    Anna Eaton :

    Nienna :

    Anna Eaton :
    Oh my gosh, you guys have got to see this video:



    Ya know, the more I see of Travis, the more I like him. He reminds me of some guys I knew in high school. Such a fun, normal guy who came from a terrible upbringing. (And if you haven’t heard that story it’s still up on his myspace page.)

    I’ve seen this but never noticed her! It definitely looks like JA. Her head/arm come back into view at 1:28-ish and you can pause it to get a look at “the finger”. I can’t tell if it looks bent or not because of how she is holding the camera and there is debate about this in the comments. Be interested to find out when this video was made. It was posted in June 2008 but looks like there is Christmas decorations up. If it was done in December and it is bent that blows her story out the water. Not that believe a word she ever said anyways.
    Also, I believe I saw this on Dr. Drew and they said it was at the singles ward.

    Sorry, I’m a relative newbie to this whole thing. But this here old woman is now hooked! Shopping for food is now timed during breaks. Sad, I know. Anyway, I cannot wait for the day Travis gets his justice here on earth and we get the chance to recollect our senses and move on. JA constantly makes me want to lose my breakfast.

    I agree completely!

  111. kristin
    03/07/2013 at 4:22 pm

    Anyone else notice the caveman looking fella in the spectator seats? JA’s guilt so obvious even a caveman knows it!

  112. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 4:27 pm

    kristin :
    Anyone else notice the caveman looking fella in the spectator seats? JA’s guilt so obvious even a caveman knows it!

    You’re on a roll Kristin. 🙂 I read about him and Cheetah Lady on Wild about Trial tweets.

  113. kristin
    03/07/2013 at 4:28 pm

    From the Geico commercials! I laughed my butt off when my husband said it:)

  114. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 4:30 pm

    I’m not mormon so I wouldn’t know their beliefs. IMO… when I see garland I associate it with Christmas time. Meaning December not necessarily Christmas. Guess I should have worded it differently.

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 4:36 pm

      Nienna, They do celebrate Christmas!

  115. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 4:32 pm

    MMD :
    Earlier in the JA testiphony I’m pretty sure that when asked she said that she was able to get to the gun by climbing up and reached for it. She stressed that she only had to use one hand. She was pretty emphatic with JM.

    Now yesterday and today she is saying that she had to grab one shelf with her left hand and probably used her right hand to grab the gun.
    Anybody else pick that up or am I hearing things?

    I heard exactly what you heard and I’m positive about it!

  116. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 4:38 pm

    Diana :
    hope the Mr. Martinez grills her about how Mr Alexander “talked to her and came after her” after she shot him point blank range with a gun….as a nurse, this is quite
    unbelievable…and a great sticking point for the jury to focus on!

    Totally in agreement with you. I’ve been an RN for 40 yrs and many yrs in ER – not just implausible but impossible scenario that she has put in front of this jury. Not to mention that it is in complete opposition to what Dr Horn testified to!

  117. Rosco
    03/07/2013 at 4:42 pm

    Thx for the blog. Love it. Will the jury have access to all the transcripts during deliberations? There are so many parts of her Direct that were set up as the major elements of her alleged physical and psychological abuse that she herself, during Cross and answering juror questions, has since stated were not a big deal / didn’t bother her. If you scratch those from the Direct she has absolutely no foundation.

  118. MMD
    03/07/2013 at 4:45 pm

    NancyB :

    MMD :
    Earlier in the JA testiphony I’m pretty sure that when asked she said that she was able to get to the gun by climbing up and reached for it. She stressed that she only had to use one hand. She was pretty emphatic with JM.
    Now yesterday and today she is saying that she had to grab one shelf with her left hand and probably used her right hand to grab the gun.
    Anybody else pick that up or am I hearing things?

    I heard exactly what you heard and I’m positive about it!

    Thank you! I sometimes question what I’ve heard because the same topics have been asked and asked and asked……………….. with just slight variations in the wording.

  119. Jill
    03/07/2013 at 4:49 pm

    Is there a way to check the closet shelf for fingerprints? This would prove that she never went in there to get the gun. ( & I know she has said she’s cleaned in there but you wouldn’t put your fingers at the edge of a shelf to clean…)

  120. PK
    03/07/2013 at 4:55 pm

    Now it’s becoming clear to me why only three states allow jurors to ask questions of a defendant who has chosen to testify since the whole purpose, whatever that might be, is defeated when the questions are asked and answered and then the defense AGAIN gets the opportunity to rehabilitate any and all of her answers that may have not come off as planned.

  121. Nienna
    03/07/2013 at 4:56 pm

    Wonder if the police found that CD in his office or if in “her fog” she took that with her too.

  122. Mellon Collie
    03/07/2013 at 5:15 pm

    Greetings all:

    I’ve been following this trial coverage and lurking here for a few days. Glad to now meet some like-minded people.

    Keep the faith.

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 5:16 pm

      Welcome! Thanks for joining us.

  123. NancyB
    03/07/2013 at 5:33 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Word from Juan is that he doesn’t think he will get a shot at questions today, he is happy she is still on stand talking #JodiArias

  124. 03/07/2013 at 5:51 pm

    OMG……gag a maggot!!! Nurmi & JA AGAIN!!

  125. Lisa M
    03/07/2013 at 6:41 pm

    I didn’t think this testimony could get any more nauseating but boy was I wrong. When it comes to Nurmi and Jodi, there literally is no bottom, no limit to the vileness that they spew. What strikes me the most, is that neither one of them seems to be aware of the unbelievable hypocrisy or irony of some of the things she says.
    For instance the quote from the Book of Mark she wrote in her journal where it says you will be held accountable for your words on judgement day. I mean, really???!!! You don’t see the irony in that?! You don’t see the hypocrisy?
    There were so many things for which I had to mute the TV today, yet again. When she said she still had an unconditional love for Travis I really needed that barf bag!
    But the silver lining in all of this is that I hope to God the jury realizes that Nurmi is actually doing the prosecutor’s job for him. I also hope Juan Martinez realizes this!! He seems to get so adversarial and one-tracked that he can’t see the forest for the trees sometimes.
    Nurmi delineated the motive today better than I’ve heard before when, in response to one of his questions, Jodi said that Travis had told her about Mimi Hall at some point in 2008, actually said that he believed she was destined by God to be his wife, and showed her photos of Mimi! She tried to distance herself from her feelings by saying it didn’t make her feel jealous but more “bittersweet” and they still had sex even though she claims she was okay with them being no longer a couple. (NONE of her reasons for continuing to have sex with him after they broke up have made any sense whatsoever other that to prove she was still in love with him and trying to win him back.)
    But all JM has to do is repeat these statements for the jury and suggest that for any normal woman, even one who was “friends” with her ex-boyfriend, and certainly for someone who was still sleeping with him, if he showed her a photo of his new conquest for lack of a better word (a woman who he not only wanted to be with but wanted to MARRY) she would hit the roof! It would be a severe blow to the ego! Now, here you have Jodi, who even if you assume she’s normal and not a psychopathic stalker, has admitted to still having feelings for him– she’s said unconditional love, she’s said she cared about him as a friend, and she also said she had a sexual attraction to him– anyone with that array of complexity of feelings towards someone, even as benign as she tries to make them sound, would suffer a huge blow to the ego and would be extremely hurt. Imagine a guy you love telling you he want’s to marry someone else and even showing your photos. It’s beyond hurtful. BUT for a psychopath like her, it was the straw that broke the camel’s back. She continued to have sex with him in the hopes of winning him back and when she finally realized he was going to Cancun with Mimi she killed him. It couldn’t be more obvious.
    Her BS about Travis not telling her that he was going to Cancun with Mimi can easily be revealed as the nonsense it is by asking her why Travis wouldn’t tell her about Mimi going to Cancun if everything was cool between them and there were no hard feelings. Obviously Nurmi would object because it’s speculation, but at least get the question out there. I feel like motive is even more clear to me today than it was during JM’s opening argument. I just hope the jury feels the same way! And I hope JM doesn’t muddy the waters yet again by getting adversarial with her. I’m almost starting to believe one of the defense attorneys on JVM who said that if the jury convicts her on first degree it will be in spite of JM and not because of him. I hope he proves me wrong!

  126. Laine
    03/07/2013 at 6:43 pm

    OMG Did it feel like a Perry Mason moment to anyone else when JM caught her on those gas cans and the walmart return!!! For the first time in this trial she looks SCARED!!! and I really shouldn’t be enjoying it…but right now I want to Kiss JM!!!!

  127. Rache
    03/07/2013 at 6:53 pm

    I’m too nervous to listen…what a wimp, I know. Also, Jodi gives me the creeps. How is Mr. Martinez doing?

  128. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/07/2013 at 6:54 pm

    Just finished hearing JM’s cross of JA regarding her answers to the jury questions. He’s only covered 3 major points so far and will be back on for Monday. BUT…..he questioned her about her accusations about Pedophila and who she told before her trial started. She now says she told 3 people, one of which is Matt McCartney, her so called ally!! Her defense is objecting big time…..there’s something hidden there that JM is going to uncover to show her lie. Next are the gas cans……he asked her if she didn’t have 3 gas cans when she went to Mesa then how come she showed in Salt Lake City on 6/5/08 with 3 gas cans!!! He showed her the receipts and her bank statements and did the math!! He also asked her if she knew that Walmart has no record of ever giving a refund for a gas can on the day she purchased the can. Her attorneys are objecting BIG TIME!! She looked like a deer in the headlights!! His next question has to do with her injury to her finger that she said she got at work (Casa Ramos)!! Again her attorneys are objecting!!

    There’s something going on here and court has been called for the day. JM left the jury with these facts on the brain until Monday!!

    OLD LADIES FOR JUSTICE!!! GO JM……..GET HER!!

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 6:58 pm

      It was kinda fun, huh? CiCi Circle…court wont be on again until Wednesday next wekk, See the PSA on today’s blog entry! Enjoy the tome off!

  129. Rache
    03/07/2013 at 7:14 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle,

    Old lady here, too…..but I get too agitated watching Nurmi and Jodi and have to turn them off. However, I just turned on HLN and some lawyer was saying Martinez is doing an awful job. Of course, this was a defense lawyer. You said something is going on…..do you mean with Martinez?

    A store will never give cash from the register without having the person sign a receipt. This is the only way to account for money taken from the register. Of course, Jodi will continue to claim otherwise.

    I never saw Jodi shaking……what a joke.

    Have fun, ladies!

  130. 03/07/2013 at 7:33 pm

    State of California requires a work related injury to be reported to Workman’s Comp. You fill out the forms but do not necessarily have to go for medical attention. JA stated under juror questioning that they were small and there was no paper to fill out. It wasn’t like they were a corporation. It does not make any difference. Even if the manager filled out the papers she would have to sign them. JM has got her in a lie. Is she looking at the jury to see if any one will look at her?

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 7:36 pm

      Zactly!

  131. 03/07/2013 at 10:04 pm

    Rache :
    Ci Ci’s Circle,
    Old lady here, too…..but I get too agitated watching Nurmi and Jodi and have to turn them off. However, I just turned on HLN and some lawyer was saying Martinez is doing an awful job. Of course, this was a defense lawyer. You said something is going on…..do you mean with Martinez?
    A store will never give cash from the register without having the person sign a receipt. This is the only way to account for money taken from the register. Of course, Jodi will continue to claim otherwise.
    I never saw Jodi shaking……what a joke.
    Have fun, ladies!

    Oh we meant that JM is getting ready to play another ace card…..namely the Matt McCartney card. He kept asking her “are you sure he’s your ally and would never betray you?” And she answered, “well I hope not” and JM kept pressing her on that and then left it hanging out there! We think he may be getting to present his statement when the prosecution interviewed him. No….nothing wrong with JM….he’s doing a fantastic job!

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 10:09 pm

      Right there with you ladies…think there’s a kaboom waiting in the wings! See ya Wednesday!

  132. 03/07/2013 at 10:10 pm

    donchais :
    It was kinda fun, huh? CiCi Circle…court wont be on again until Wednesday next wekk, See the PSA on today’s blog entry! Enjoy the tome off!

    Thanks for correcting us! We take turns typing while the other ol hens are dictating and sometimes it gets away from us……we hit Post before we corrected ourselves! Too many hens cackling at the same time in the hen house! :>)

    • donchais
      03/07/2013 at 10:12 pm

      No problem, we luv you ladies, you help keep us in check!

      Dang, my typing skills were bad in that message…too tired I guess!

  133. Schaeffer
    03/08/2013 at 12:11 am

    For any lip readers out there — or anyone else, actually — could you tell what the judge was saying to Nurmi when she summoned counsel to the bench when they broke for the afternoon recess? She seemed more animated than I’ve ever seen her, and she was definitely addressing it all to Nurmi. I am surmising she was reading him the riot act, because he changed both topics and tactics and then wrapped up pretty quickly once court reconvened. I am speculating (and hoping) she told him stop talking about sex, stop rehashing the direct examination, and stop trying to drag out his questioning in an effort to prevent Martinez from beginning his followup to juror questions. It was obvious Nurmi was attempting to take up the remainder of the court day since there is going to be a five day break in proceedings and he didn’t want Martinez to have a chance to question her.

    I am so glad Martinez got a crack at Jodi. She immediately got her back up and started smarting off and smirking and challenging him on every single word, until she realized what was about to happen. The color drained from her face and she was absolutely gulping back tears and nausea when she realized he had caught her in the lie about having 3 cans cans in Salt Lake City. She was trying so hard not to cry, because the only time she really cries is when she is cornered or it is about her. It was a masterful performance by Martinez, and I only wish time had not run out.

    Also, when Jodi was answering questions yesterday (I think) I thought it was very disrespectful — but extremely telling — when she referred to the prosecutor as Juan. She said something to the effect of “Well when JUAN asked me . . . . “

  134. Laine
    03/08/2013 at 7:09 am

    Schaeffer :For any lip readers out there — or anyone else, actually — could you tell what the judge was saying to Nurmi when she summoned counsel to the bench when they broke for the afternoon recess? She seemed more animated than I’ve ever seen her, and she was definitely addressing it all to Nurmi. I am surmising she was reading him the riot act, because he changed both topics and tactics and then wrapped up pretty quickly once court reconvened. I am speculating (and hoping) she told him stop talking about sex, stop rehashing the direct examination, and stop trying to drag out his questioning in an effort to prevent Martinez from beginning his followup to juror questions. It was obvious Nurmi was attempting to take up the remainder of the court day since there is going to be a five day break in proceedings and he didn’t want Martinez to have a chance to question her.
    I am so glad Martinez got a crack at Jodi. She immediately got her back up and started smarting off and smirking and challenging him on every single word, until she realized what was about to happen. The color drained from her face and she was absolutely gulping back tears and nausea when she realized he had caught her in the lie about having 3 cans cans in Salt Lake City. She was trying so hard not to cry, because the only time she really cries is when she is cornered or it is about her. It was a masterful performance by Martinez, and I only wish time had not run out.
    Also, when Jodi was answering questions yesterday (I think) I thought it was very disrespectful — but extremely telling — when she referred to the prosecutor as Juan. She said something to the effect of “Well when JUAN asked me . . . . “

    I couldn’t agree with you more! But I wonder if she was admonishing the amount of time he asked to approach the bench to object. They would have access to all evidence that was going to be introduced and he is doing everything he can to obstruct the prosecutions case, my guess is she’s told him to do his homework BEFORE he comes to court so he knows what he’s objecting to!!

  135. Laine
    03/08/2013 at 7:12 am

    donchais :Right there with you ladies…think there’s a kaboom waiting in the wings! See ya Wednesday!

    I agree donchais! I can’t wait to see what he has up his sleeve. JA looked so nervous and scared for the first time in this fiasco. Seems her memory will be the thing that finally lets her down.

  136. Bethany
    03/08/2013 at 12:03 pm

    MMD: I’m so glad that she is driving other people, aka, the jury nuts! Plus she needs to stop using ‘de-edify’ cause I don’t think that is even a word!!! LOL

    I was watching the recording of yesterday’s trial and Beth Karas said that Jodi is using de-edify incorrectly and that she needs to stop using that word…that made me laugh. Just thought I would relay that to you in case you didn’t see it. 😊

  137. Lisa M
    03/08/2013 at 12:18 pm

    Observer :
    Can you say busted?
    The jury is not fooled by this wolf in sheep’s clothing.
    At times Jodi Arias was gulping like a drowning swimmer. At other times, she lied without skipping a beat.
    I loved these questions:
    Why did you sleep with him after you discovered his child porn issues?
    How did you get the gun off the shelf if he was chasing you?
    Why would you point an unloaded gun at someone who told you it was unloaded?
    Why did the bullet casing land in blood if you shot him first?
    Why would you even say on national TV no jury will convict you because you are innocent even if you planned on killing yourself?
    Does the Mormon Church encourage you to tell the truth?
    After going to church, Family Home Evening and reading the Book of Mormon, how did you not know all forms of sex are forbidden?
    Why didn’t you call Ryan to tell him you’d be late?
    Were you angry when you stabbed Travis?
    If you weren’t jealous when you saw him kissing the girl, why did you cry and call your father?
    Was the floor slick when Travis body slammed you?
    How is it you remember everything except stabbing Travis?
    Re-enact the crime using the floor plan.
    As she was telling the bogus body slam, closet chase and gun going off story again with no uhmms, I realize she invented version No. 3 because it was simple to remember, it makes Travis the bad guy and she takes no responsibility for anything. She claimed she blacked out right after the gun went off just like when she was drunk at 19 and 15. LOL
    I think Miss Smarty Pants thinks she scammed the jury with her rambling spin and believes she will walk.
    The camera stamp, the huge blood stain on his bedroom rug where Travis bled out from the 27 stab wounds, stab to the heart and the slit throat and the defensive wounds on his hands shows who was chasing whom through the bathroom and who was fighting for their life.
    The scary thing about Jodi Arias is if she is not put to death, she is going to end up luring a guard with sex, shooting him with his gun and escaping because she is only concerned about her freedom.

    Thank you, Observer, for recapping those questions. I knew of most but not all. I hadn’t heard the one asking her if the Mormon Church encourages telling the truth? Ha, love it! Wonder how she squirmed out of that one. I also had been asking the question myself, why would you point an unloaded gun at someone who knew it was unloaded? And her answer was so sorely inadequate. “Because I’ve been taught that you would stop even if the gun was unloaded.” What???!!!! First of all, who “taught” you that? And that is the most ludicrous thing I’ve ever heard!” I also think she thinks her answers will fool the jury because she answers in such a confident, rehearsed manner, she thinks that makes what she says believable.

  138. Lisa M
    03/08/2013 at 12:26 pm

    Vickee :
    State of California requires a work related injury to be reported to Workman’s Comp. You fill out the forms but do not necessarily have to go for medical attention. JA stated under juror questioning that they were small and there was no paper to fill out. It wasn’t like they were a corporation. It does not make any difference. Even if the manager filled out the papers she would have to sign them. JM has got her in a lie. Is she looking at the jury to see if any one will look at her?

    Didn’t she say that her skin was flapped over, or something like that? how is that a small injury and how does a little band aid help that. Also, she tried to back away from saying she had discussed it with her manager, but then said she “kind of” discussed it, or there might have been some minor discussion when she asked for the band aid. So isn’t that discussing it? LOL I’m wondering why JM asked her this. Is it because the manager is going to testify later that she never discussed this so-called injury with him? And if so, wouldn’t he also say she didn’t ask him for a band aid?

  139. Bethany
    03/08/2013 at 1:12 pm

    Instead of using de-edify Jodi should be using disedify. She needs to check her vocabulary before she speaks

  140. Bethany
    03/08/2013 at 4:51 pm

    I’m not so sure about the piranhas…they might take one bite out of her and spit it out because she is so disgusting😉

  141. Trial watcher
    03/08/2013 at 8:57 pm

    JA is making some HUGE mistakes,” I dropped the GUN when she meant to say CAMERA!!
    PLEASE jury members … R U Listening,,,,,
    So So many lies and changes in her stories .is anyone else as tired of listening to the
    BS about their supposed sex life as I am
    I don`t get what is so fascinating about it. dam boring as far as I can tell .I don`t even
    believe any of what she says how the h— can we…

  142. Karen
    03/08/2013 at 11:21 pm

    I have to make a comment about the March 5th testimony before and after lunch…minutes before lunch Numbi was asking JA about filling up the gas cans and she says I remember filling the car first and then the gas cans the two female defense attorneys look stunned and start writing notes to each other and wispering Numbi seems to be oblivious, but lunch is called. Immediately after lunch Numbi starts right in on the order of what came first and now she starts saying she doesn’t remember and she is not sure. It is clear that the defense team is not only supporting purgery, but incouraging it. How can they so clearly get away with this?

  143. Nancy Pennington
    03/08/2013 at 11:47 pm

    Let’s hope the judge caught the change in her story about the order of gas in the car and the cans. Maybe Wurmi will get thrown in the slammer with his skanky client.

  144. trial Watcher
    03/09/2013 at 12:54 am

    It’s not only unethical of Wormi and those 2 things that sit beside him
    but really what can we expect after all they want to get the bitch off don’t they? Gas cans r 1 of many many things JA has lied about and it appears Wormi is helping her do it. I really have come to dislike her lawyer. Has anyone seen his ad for biz? Sleazy sounding or what!!

  145. Karen
    03/09/2013 at 9:29 am

    I realize the she is not above perjury but I thought her defense was held to much higher legal standards based on the oath they take, and that they could not knowingly allow their client to lie. Again they seem to be encourging this from her. I hope Juan Martinez can see this as I have and I am not an attorney, just a wannabe.

  146. Karen
    03/09/2013 at 9:33 am

    No, I have not seen his ad, where can it be viewed. I would like to send his supervisor a note to point out the unethical way Numbi is handling this case to him or her and all that would listen.

  147. Karen
    03/09/2013 at 9:40 am

    They didn’t hesitate to file against Juan Martinez for a MisTrial in this case, I see it as only fair to report their wrong doings. If we all got together and filed complaints or voiced them someone might take notice. At the very least put an end to it.

  148. Karen
    03/09/2013 at 10:01 am

    I completely understand that the DEVILS SPAWN is entitled to a fair trial,but I don’t believe that her attorneys should be slithering in the mud to save her just because she is stone cold guilty, it should not be tolerated in any form. THEY HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO FOLLOW THE LAW. NOT TWIST OR DISTORT IT.

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 10:17 am

      Karen, their out is, ‘that is what my client told me and I have no reason to doubt it.’ Pretty hard to prove otherwise. Not saying I agree with it.

  149. Karen
    03/09/2013 at 1:26 pm

    I think it’s more like a legal DUTY than Right to follow the law IMO. At every chance they get they help her change her testimony to fit her story based on Numbi or Wilmouths line of answers in the guise of questions. It sickens me.

  150. Karen
    03/09/2013 at 10:09 pm

    I am sorry that I have been so negative about this but her defense team are “Officers of the Court” and clearly they have chosen to disregard the oath they have taken as such.

    • donchais
      03/09/2013 at 10:20 pm

      Karen, two words..Baez and Mason!

      • Anonymous
        03/13/2013 at 12:58 pm

        MMD-Thank you for re-posting that for me,it speaks alot to JA mind set if self defense were true she wouldn’t be seeking an attorney that represents sex offenders. Both are bottom feeding scum suckers.

      • Karen
        03/13/2013 at 5:24 pm

        She is never off her game,has had way too long to prepare and study for her minute of “fame”.

  151. MMD
    03/09/2013 at 10:29 pm

    Karen :
    No, I have not seen his ad, where can it be viewed. I would like to send his supervisor a note to point out the unethical way Numbi is handling this case to him or her and all that would listen.

    I have this posted on Day Thirty:

    Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi
    Have you been accused
    of committing a sexual offense?
    Call me now 24/7 (602) 285-6947
    I can provide you with aggressive representation against
    any accusation that you committed a sexual offense.
    Sexual Assault • Sex Conduct with a Minor • Indecent Exposure
    Sexual Exploitation of a Minor • Sexual Abuse • Molestation of a Child
    At the Law Office of L. Kirk Nurmi we understand that you do not have to commit a sexual offense to be accused of being a sex offender. We understand that innocent people can be accused of sex crimes such as sexual assault, sex conduct with a minor or sexual exploitation of a minor, or any sex offense with very little evidence. We also understand that being accused of committing such a crime is devastating and daunting. However, we also understand that the legal consequences are very serious and that if you are accused of a sex crime you need an attorney who has the experience and knowledge needed to provide you with an aggressive defense. Our results speak for themselves:
    Sex Assault – not guilty
    Sex Assault / Unlawful Imprisonment – not guilty on all counts
    Sexual Exploitation of a Minor (10 counts) – not guilty on all counts
    Sex Conduct with a Minor, Sexual Assault – all counts dismissed
    Call (602) 285-6947 Today
    So if you find yourself accused of such a crime and you seek competent aggressive representation call our office at (602) 285-6947 for a Free Telephonic Consultation.
    Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi
    2314 E Osborne Road
    Phoenix, Arizona 85016
    (602) 285-6947
    ________________________________________________________________________
    I know that I keep posting this website but I think it helps to explain so much. When you have a bottom feeding sex obsessed defense attorney and you combine it with a psychopath and pathological liar, you end up with a trial that combines sex, religion and politics, all the things I was taught not to discuss in polite company. The only things missing are drugs and rock and roll.
    The irony here is that Wurmi is on the other side of the fence now. He and JA are doing the accusing of sex crimes and not just one. They’re pushing pedophilia and rape.
    I know I usually don’t include the phone #s but hell, he’s posted all over the internet PLUS he also offers Free Telephonic Consultation 24/7! (just in case you want to refer someone)

  152. Trial watcher
    03/11/2013 at 3:36 am

    back @ HOTTOPIC08
    I do NOT think that the e-mail that Lisa received has been introduced because they could NEVER prove that it positively came from Arias. The world watching knows it did but u know what they say .The proof is in the pudding.!!Well my guy is home from work… time to leave u all be…..till the morrow then………Have a Better one………………..

  153. kristin
    03/11/2013 at 1:51 pm

    MMD- HLN has hopped on board with ‘cry, lie, deny!’ I’m trying to take a mental health break while court is dark:)

  154. Marcolyne
    03/11/2013 at 10:58 pm

    I love your comments! I feel the same way but you express it better.. Looking forward to Wednesday.

  155. Trial watcher
    03/12/2013 at 3:31 pm

    have u shut this site down or???

    • donchais
      03/12/2013 at 4:10 pm

      not yet, lol

  156. Trial watcher
    03/12/2013 at 3:36 pm

    i’m back on NO idea what the h–l happened to me!
    one question/
    Does anyone know how the 12 jury members that go into deliberation get chosen from among the 18?? TY for the jury description,adds food for thought today
    Takes me away from bad news at Doc. appt this morn!! Oh CRAP! Now where have we heard that??LOL LOL trying 2 LOL!!

    • donchais
      03/12/2013 at 4:08 pm

      Trial watcher, kinda like bingo…numbers pulled at random, and depending on your perspective, ya win or lose!

      You ok?

  157. Trial watcher
    03/13/2013 at 2:50 pm

    Wednesday is here!! I just came in and turned on and tuned in to HLN! New Pope is chosen!
    Big Day! Guy on HLN says JA is off her game. So far I don’t really agree on this. This girl can hold her own. Never will I believe that she’s intimidated by ANY one, man or woman!!
    Certainly not Travis Alexander!!!
    Poor guy sure as h-ll didn’t see this little bitch coming did he?

  158. Karen
    03/13/2013 at 5:56 pm

    Wow, she just admitted she shot him in the head and killed him.

  159. Karen
    03/13/2013 at 5:59 pm

    I think she just put a needle in her arm…at least that is my hope.

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