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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty Three

03/18/2013

Today’s hearing is to address some of the new information the defense sprung on Mr. Martinez.  It’s a blatant discovery violation as all materials, theories, etc. have to be turned over in a timely manner.  Specifically, we will hear about  Reactive and instrumental murders.  Heat of passion and premeditated.

Reactive killing is a killing where it happens that it is a reaction to some trigger to the abuse.  Reactive killing is fancy for heat of passion which is not allowed in AZ.

Hearing begins (late) at 10:29 and the defense totally backed down!  You just know the Judge has to be pissed with the defense!  So, no hearing, however, the jury was told the trial would resume at 11 MST!!!

Court begins at 11:02.

Dr. Samuels back on the stand.  He whipped out a ton of books…Yuck.

Heck, he didn’t even read the articles he’s talking about…he read a summary!!!

Says Transient Global Amnesia Is not a fake condition to cover up something.  Minor actions can set it off like shock.  Jodi doesn’t have this type of amnesia…

Martinez objects we go to Sidebar…

This guy is so full of crap.

He met Jodi 12 times and they spent about 30 hours talking.  Jodi at first told him the ninja story.  She finally admitted she killed Travis.  She remembered she dropped the camera…

Objection…sidebar…

He claims she does have foggy or hazy memories.

Sometimes parts of memory can return.

She also has intrusive thoughts even though she has memory loss.

donchais holding a fire sale on barf bags and foil hats.

Willmott gets Samuels to admit he had been sanctioned for a custody evaluation.

Screen shot 2013-03-18 at 2.34.44 PMEven Jodi looks bored!

Samuels now claims NJ had changed the law and he was unaware of it.

Maybe he missed the notice!

Now we’re moving into psychosexual risk assessments.

What??? Based on her lies about Travis????

Martinez asks to approach…

12:54 MST lunch break called.

Surprise, court resumes at 1:35 and Judge has counsel approach…. sigh.

I seriously want a dollar for each minute this case has wasted for me in delays!!!

 After a lengthy sidebar, Nurmi is in conference with Jodi…Willmott has disappeared.  Something major has gone down, it would seem.  Oh, Willmott took Samuels outside the courtroom!

 

Jury brought in at 1:49 MST.

Samuels says sexual abuse violent perpetrator in AZ allows for risk assessment with perps and victims and out patient treatment.

Oh, boy, a pedophile is protected by family members…barf bag full!

Martinez objecting up a storm…this is just pure, unadulterated bs!

Did Ms. Arias speak to you about the Law of Attractions?  Yes, she felt if you put positive things out, they came back to you.

Claims Jodi had low self-esteem based on relationships with family and boyfriends.  Over time, she became more self- esteem and grew stronger.

So, I guess jail time did her some good!

 This bozo keeps saying vague things like, ‘it could be, it might occur, it can happen.’

Boy, if this guy isn’t a gun for hire!

Claims when talking with Jodi he saw her hand shake on several occasions.

I have totally wasted this whole friggin day!

He knows about the crime scene from photos, interviews with the Det. and ultimately from Jodi…

Juan objects and asks to approach…

Willmott has entered the same league as Nurmi and Juan is gonna chew this guy up and spit him out!

Oh man!  Willmott trying to get Samuels to testify about the blood spatter in the bathroom and hall!

Juan objects and we sidebar again!

Samuels admits Arias put Travis’ in the shower!  Would have taken a lot of strength to move Travis’ body.

This has nada to do with his field of ‘supposed’ expertise!

Juan up on cross!

You took on a treatment approach …

Objection, sidebar…

2:49, early recess called!

Nurmi bitchin that Martinez knows that Samuels was visiting Arias and Martinez is violating a pre-trial ruling.

Martinez wants to show a video clip and of his interview with Samuels where he crossed the line again by sending cards and gifts to Arias and was doing treatment because she was depressed!  All of this occurred while Nurmi was trying to bail on Arias!!!

Willmott claiming prejudice!

Nurmi claims habitual misrepresentation by the state.

Rain, sleet, snow must be shorting out my foil hat; too much of this nonsense is filtering through!

Isn’t true you provided the defendant with a gift?  No.

You provided it as a gift because you thought she was depressed?

Juan shows him his testimony and he has to agree he sent it…it was a self-help book!

Holy crap, he is answering just like Jodi does!  Non-answering!

Juan on fire!!!!

Willmott asks the Judge to tell Martinez not to yell at the witness, lol.

Sidebar…

So when were Searcy and Samuels actually separated? At birth?  This is too funny!

If you believed she was suicidal, did you contact anybody?  Her attorney.

Nobody in the jail?  I had no contacts in the jail.

You didn’t inform anybody in the jail that you believed the defendant was suicidal?  No, I didn’t.

This was an ethical dilemma?  No I didn’t see it as that.

Holy cow…Martinez reveals he had to read a book and take counseling for his no-no in NJ in addition to the $2500 fine!

Juan was freakin brilliant…watch the you tube by croakerqueen for the last 3 hours!!!  OMG!

Whole lot of questions of why Samuels scored the test on yellow legal paper and why he used pencil instead of pen and why not on the actual answer sheet!

OMG!  Did he change the answers? He filled out the answer sheet as she told him the answers!

Defense in melt down mode!

I can’t even type this… I’m so engaged with Juan…ya have to watch it!!!!

Samuels has a future slinging hamburgers in a dive!

Juan is atomic!!!!

Jodi even looks like she knows she’s toast and I’m lovin every minute of it!!!!

Samuels came totally unprepared to testify.

I’m dumbfounded today!

Good God…we break for the day at 4:34MST!

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  1. Anna Eaton
    03/18/2013 at 7:57 pm

    “Samuels has a future slinging hamburgers in a dive!”

    Funny though, don’t you kinda think he wasn’t Totally going under the bus for miss lie to us? e.g. he admitted he should have retested, etc. Am I off base here?

    Thank you again, donchais, for all your hard work.

    • donchais
      03/18/2013 at 8:01 pm

      not off base at all hun!

  2. Laine
    03/18/2013 at 8:01 pm

    Anna Eaton :“Samuels has a future slinging hamburgers in a dive!”
    Funny though, don’t you kinda think he wasn’t Totally going under the bus for miss lie to us? e.g. he admitted he should have retested, etc. Am I off base here?
    Thank you again, donchais, for all your hard work.

    Nope I am totally with you! And did you notice how he kept shooting looks at Wilmot like…he was terrified! He was totally unprepared for cross and has been made to look not only incompetent…but unethical AGAIN!! I hope they throw the book at him! Juan was on fire! This made is so focused and boy does he do his homework!!! Az should be proud to have him!!

  3. Laine
    03/18/2013 at 8:03 pm

    This man not made!! My fingers aren’t working as fast as my brain lol JM has me all fired up!

    • donchais
      03/18/2013 at 8:04 pm

      lol

  4. JesusFreak
    03/18/2013 at 8:03 pm

    donchais, i will do a sunshine dance AND pray all clouds go away. Sure want you to have a better day tomorrow!

    • donchais
      03/18/2013 at 8:04 pm

      plz and thx!

  5. JesusFreak
    03/18/2013 at 8:04 pm

    Laine :

    Anna Eaton :“Samuels has
    a future slinging hamburgers in a dive!”
    Funny though, don’t you kinda think he wasn’t Totally going under the bus for miss lie to us? e.g. he admitted he should have retested, etc. Am I off base here?
    Thank you again, donchais, for all your hard work.

    Nope I am totally with you! And did you notice how he kept shooting looks at Wilmot like…he was terrified! He was totally unprepared for cross and has been made to look not only incompetent…but unethical AGAIN!! I hope they throw the book at him! Juan was on fire! This made is so focused and boy does he do his homework!!! Az should be proud to have him!!

    See, i thot he was shooting looks at ja. makes more sense they would be at wilmot

  6. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 8:08 pm

    I am in such awe of Juan Martinez!!! He totally destroyed Dr. Quack and I loved it! Can’t wait for more of the same tomorrow! 🙂

  7. Laine
    03/18/2013 at 8:10 pm

    @JesusFreak I think definately Wilmott and her face was a picture. I mean seriously…he was the best you could get?? I just hope they don’t give her a retrial because of her defense incompetence! Wilmott and Nurmi should be embaressed and ashamed….and will likely not been seen as remotely “good” at the job that they do.

    I can just imagine the next sap being given them as attorneys…”Your Honour I will just plead guilty now before my defense team f**k it up”

  8. 03/18/2013 at 8:12 pm

    LOL , Juan actually made this guy look as much of a liar as his client !

  9. Nancy Pennington
    03/18/2013 at 8:13 pm

    Again, thank you donchais for your synopsis. I’d like to place an online order for 2 tinfoil hats and 2 sets of antennas, please, if this guy is going to continue. Could you fedex them overnight so we will be ready for tomorrow? Thank you in advance, just send me a bill.

    • donchais
      03/18/2013 at 8:15 pm

      You got it…shipping free of charge!

  10. donchais
    03/18/2013 at 8:14 pm

    LMAO…krect!

  11. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 8:15 pm

    Did I hear that correctly??? Dr. Fog gave JA a book called “Your Erroneous Zone”??? Considering Jodi’s sexpertise wouldn’t a book called “Your Erogenous Zone” have been more appropriate??? Just wonderin’.

    And Wilmott actually asking the Judge to have JM stop yelling…what a joke! That’s like asking the Judge to instruct Wurmi to speed up his dialogue and quit wasting our time dragging his crap out!

  12. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 8:17 pm

    Another great job donchais!! I so look forward to your post at the end of the day!

  13. 03/18/2013 at 8:18 pm

    Thank you Donchais for the fantastic summary.

  14. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 8:21 pm

    Donchais – don’t hold back. Tell us how the hell you really feel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

    Thanks for your awesome reporting and commentary. You may need to order major bulk orders of barf bags and foils hats 🙂 So glad you are back with us. You were TRULY MISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:21 pm

    Another Juan-tastic day in the neighborhood!!

  16. Laine
    03/18/2013 at 8:21 pm

    dochais: OMG! Did he change the answers? He filled out the answer sheet as she told him the answers!

    Defense in melt down mode!

    You may well be onto something here…lets see if the test papers turn up tomorrow…then lets see if JM has them looked at to see if they’ve been altered…..

    This guy will be lucky to come out of this without a lawsuit! he should be investigated and struck off!

  17. Chrissie A
    03/18/2013 at 8:24 pm

    Great recap!! Thanks Donchais!

    WOW!! I knew there was a goose cooking – Juan sliced and diced him, I’m sure he’s still on the side dishes and I can’t wait for the main course. Ms Violette take heed!!!

  18. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 8:24 pm

    LadyInRed :
    Another Juan-tastic day in the neighborhood!!

    You need to trademark that it is so good!!!

  19. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:26 pm

    I’ve worked for lawyers over 30 years and sat (for the first time) as a criminal court juror in a murder trial 5 months ago, and I thought that so-called expert was unprepared??? Yes we convicted, and would love to transport myself/fellow jurors into this courtroom. There would be mincemeat/yorkshire pudding or filet mignon to go along with the Rocky Mountain Oysters!

  20. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:27 pm

    LOL @MMD … feel free to share! So glad I got brave enough to stop being a lurker and post here!

  21. NancyB
    03/18/2013 at 8:27 pm

    Does anybody know what report Judge Stephens was asking Det. Flores about? He said he would bring it tomr.

    • donchais
      03/18/2013 at 8:29 pm

      NancyB Think the hand stand vid!

  22. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:32 pm

    @NancyB, see this video and scroll to 7:20 re: the interview

  23. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 8:32 pm

    LadyInRed :
    So glad I got brave enough to stop being a lurker and post here!

    We’re glad too – you fit in perfectly!!!!!! 🙂 It is such an awesome group of people and it is all courtesy of donchais!

  24. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:33 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uUztWu7HE sorry, the clip did not stick! 😦

  25. Darcy
    03/18/2013 at 8:34 pm

    A couple of times, I thought Wilmott actually looked scared – just for a few seconds (and then she’d sort of flip her hair and shake it off). If JA had the sense God gave a goat, she’d look scared instead of bored.

    The minute Juan asked about JA lying on the test, that quack looked like a deer in the headlights. And when Juan pulled out the paper I went “OH yeah – THIS is gonna be good!!” Good thing I was working at home this afternoon – LOL. He was amazing and I definitely want to watch the whole cross again on YouTube.

    Hoping one of the jury questions is “Why did you waste our time with this BS?”

  26. Laine
    03/18/2013 at 8:34 pm

    LadyInRed :LOL @MMD … feel free to share! So glad I got brave enough to stop being a lurker and post here!

    So glad you did too! your one liners are hysterical! and we are such a friendly bunch!

  27. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 8:34 pm

    I’m so sick of the defense attys on HLN!!! Just listened to one that said the defense in this case is “brilliant”. WTH trial is he watching???

  28. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:35 pm

    Think the hand stand vid!
    Per my post over the weekend, why are JA’s feet so dirty? Does the woman never bathe/shower??? Ick!

  29. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:37 pm

    Laine :

    LadyInRed :LOL @MMD … feel free to share! So glad I got brave enough to stop being a lurker and post here!

    So glad you did too! your one liners are hysterical! and we are such a friendly bunch!

    Hope you saw my “menu” post in the earlier thread?? Down toward the bottom, but can repaste here … been saving my tongue-in-cheek humor for those who “get it!”

  30. Laine
    03/18/2013 at 8:39 pm

    NancyB :Does anybody know what report Judge Stephens was asking Det. Flores about? He said he would bring it tomr.

    This was an interview last thursday according to the Judge…I think it’s likely to be the interview JM had with Dr Murky re: new evidence in the Power point…..Just a guess but if you watch the clip back she clearly says last thursday…

  31. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 8:40 pm

    Darcy :
    A couple of times, I thought Wilmott actually looked scared – just for a few seconds (and then she’d sort of flip her hair and shake it off). If JA had the sense God gave a goat, she’d look scared instead of bored.

    I felt the same way Darcy! Great observation!

  32. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 8:40 pm

    See #29 for the clip and scroll to 7:20.

  33. Observer
    03/18/2013 at 8:57 pm

    Juan Martinez made mincemeat out of Dr. Fraud today.

    It was laughable when Dr. Fraud admitted that his entire PTSD diagnosis was based on her saying on the test that she had been assaulted by a stranger. At that time she was telling the fictional story that intruders came in and killed Travis Alexander.

    I hope he loses his job as a state paid expert for defense attorneys when they hear she sent her greeting cards to cheer her up and a self help book because he said she was suicidal, which is unethical and what he got fined $2,500 for in New Jersey.

    I wonder how much the jail supervises visits between prisoners and their experts. What Jodi is good at is sex. I wonder if she got in Dr, Fraud’s pants during those 12 visits.

    That’s why he lied for her and was trying to save her.

  34. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 9:01 pm

    Ok just voted on DWTS – D.L.Hugley is gawd awful and the 16 yr old Disney star is awesome. I’ll watch the rest later. OK, now back to the IMPORTANT stuff – JUAN MARTINEZ!!!!!

  35. Observer
    03/18/2013 at 9:08 pm

    Correction, I hope he loses his job as a state paid expert for defense attorneys when they hear he sent her greeting cards to cheer her up and a self help book.

  36. Chrissie A
    03/18/2013 at 9:09 pm

    MMD :
    I am in such awe of Juan Martinez!!! He totally destroyed Dr. Quack and I loved it! Can’t wait for more of the same tomorrow!

    Dr. Quack started to look like he was coming down with a dose of his own PTSD 🙂

  37. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 9:12 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    I am in such awe of Juan Martinez!!! He totally destroyed Dr. Quack and I loved it! Can’t wait for more of the same tomorrow!

    Dr. Quack started to look like he was coming down with a dose of his own PTSD

    Well if he isn’t not, he will for sure by the time JM is finished mopping the floor with him. Then it will be – doctor (and I use the term loosely) heal thyself!!!

    I’m simply loving, loving, loving it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

    • donchais
      03/18/2013 at 9:15 pm

      MMD don’t hold back, lol!

  38. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 9:13 pm

    correction – if he isn’t NOW

  39. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 9:29 pm

    Wow, a lot of people haven’t realize yet that we have moved to another day. LOL I guess they’re still asleep from Dr. Quack and Willmott! sssssshhhhhhhhh we won’t wake them up until tomorrow and then will they ever get a surprise with the Juan attack!!!!

  40. Lisa M
    03/18/2013 at 9:35 pm

    Wow, figures I missed the trial coverage today! Sounds like Juan was on fire. I will have to watch the recap on In Session ( what’s left of it that is) and try to find that YouTube video. So happy to hear that Juan is ripping the defense to shreds. Nurmi is such a worm! What’s this about him trying to leave the case?!

  41. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 9:46 pm

    Lisa M: I read a document somewhere on this site that showed that Nurmi has been trying to leave this case for along time. He’s tried several times I believe and they would not release him. Can’t say I blame the guy. I wouldn’t want to be the defense in this case either.

  42. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 9:52 pm

    Lisa M :
    Wow, figures I missed the trial coverage today! Sounds like Juan was on fire. I will have to watch the recap on In Session ( what’s left of it that is) and try to find that YouTube video. So happy to hear that Juan is ripping the defense to shreds. Nurmi is such a worm! What’s this about him trying to leave the case?!

    Lisa you only have to watch part of the afternoon. The rest of the day was the Dr. Quack/Willmott snooze fest alternating with sidebars, a lot of sidebars!

  43. MMD
    03/18/2013 at 9:53 pm

    Donchais – are you having a blizzard there yet cause you’re sending it to us towards the end of the week?

    • donchais
      03/19/2013 at 7:50 am

      MMD Wasn’t bad, just messy. Should be gone today with an all-day rain event.

  44. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 10:05 pm

    Lisa you only have to watch part of the afternoon. The rest of the day was the Dr. Quack/Willmott snooze fest alternating with sidebars, a lot of sidebars!

    MMD – Completely agree with you. I was startled awake when I heard Juan going after him. LOL

  45. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 10:10 pm

    LIR volunteers to be the guinea pig, and will hold my nose while watching HLN After Dark just to see the re-enactment with the model of the bathroom/hallway; barf bags for any of HOSE B’s comments are urgently needed, as the live show starts now in my timezone (Eastern Daylight Time = 10pm)

  46. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 10:15 pm

    LIR – I just tuned in myself. I just wanna see the re-enactment as well. Oh boy, here goes Jose spinning his BS!!!

  47. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 10:16 pm

    Tracey A :
    LIR – I just tuned in myself. I just wanna see the re-enactment as well. Oh boy, here goes Jose spinning his BS!!!

    Major Barf! I think the re-enactment so far makes logical sense!

  48. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 10:18 pm

    LIR – You crack me up! HOSE B! Perfect!!!

  49. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 10:21 pm

    Tracey A :
    LIR – You crack me up! HOSE B! Perfect!!!

    And of course, we see flashbacks to the CA travesty … puhleese get to the good stuff before I really hurl!

  50. Lisa M
    03/18/2013 at 10:27 pm

    Wow, thanks for the info, guys. I did not know Wurmi was trying to leave the case. Does anyone know why? It cant have been because of any moral dilemma because we know that would require a conscience. Maybe it was the low pay? So Jodi was depressed about that and that’s why this so-called PTSD expert sent her the self-help book?

  51. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 10:29 pm

    LIR – I can’t stand seeing CA’s verdict come in again. It’s like watching OJ all over. And to see Caylee’s picture, it’s just heart wrenching to see her sweet face.

  52. Lisa M
    03/18/2013 at 10:30 pm

    Oh and isn’t it the height of irony that Nurmi would act indignant about Juan’s “habitual” mischaracterizations? Oh please. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

  53. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 10:35 pm

    Lisa M – As I recall, he even left the Public Defenders office, stating he wanted to start his own private practice. The courts ordered him to remain on the case at a rate of $225/hr so that he would have somewhat of a financial incentive and represent JA earnestly. I’ll see if I can find that document, but I’m not sure if I know how to post it here. I kinda new to the whole blog thing.

  54. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 10:35 pm

    Tracey A :
    LIR – I can’t stand seeing CA’s verdict come in again. It’s like watching OJ all over. And to see Caylee’s picture, it’s just heart wrenching to see her sweet face.

    I agree, I remember the infamous Bronco drive. Just hate the suggestion of CA by Hose coming into public view. Will try to post the YouTube clip if I am still awake, so other C4J friends can fast forward. Hose is actually suggesting that the bullet casing got moved!! Ugh! I know that’s the defense attorney’s sworn obligation to present the best defense, but let’s home the jury has common sense!!

  55. Lisa M
    03/18/2013 at 10:35 pm

    Anyone know what information this card that the guy on the stand sent to Nurmi or JA or whomever contained? What was it about? Im guessing his concerns about the effect Nurmi’s possible departure would have on JA?

  56. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 10:40 pm

    LIR – How is there no blood on top of that casing if it rolled around????? That just doesn’t make any sense. He’s just spinning more crap.

    Lisa M – I think they were greeting cards which is way inappropriate for him to provide.

  57. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 10:48 pm

    Oh Geez! Now we have to listen to Linda Kinney Baden put her take on this???? I really need a barf bag now!! I wouldn’t let Hose B or Nurmi represent me for a parking ticket!!

  58. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 11:01 pm

    I think they have to keep the prior Nurmi withdrawal motions out of the record as prejudicial to the defense. The HLN jury question was, “Did Travis Attack JA”. The panel voted 10-2 not guilty which means a hung jury.

  59. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 11:04 pm

    partial clip via ryansmithtv on twitter (page feed is HLNAfterDark)
    http://ow.ly/i/1Idms

  60. LadyInRed
    03/18/2013 at 11:08 pm

    Sorry, #65 is a still pic and not video. Look forward to reading comments tomorrow!

  61. itsafigment
    03/18/2013 at 11:28 pm

    Saw the whole thing. Everyone was saying Juan was off track, wasting time, forgettaboutit he was brilliant! Love the way he back doored the NJ crackpot, wow amzing! She has to go down. It was like “whoa..he is a dragonslayer! LOVE IT” She is a souless witch (and I am married to a defense atty but he SHOOK HIS HEAD…..I would hate to see Juan and him in a courtroom it would be a BLOODBATH they are so much alike”….sad part “ineffective assistance of counsel ” for sure..if she gets death we will all predecease her from old age , the appeals will go on FOREVER!

  62. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 11:35 pm

    Hi ITSA – Completely agree with you. Juan was on fire as usual. Cracked up when Wilmott asked the Judge to stop Juan from yelling at the expert. Thing is, she’s told so many lies, is there anyone who could put on “effective counsel”??? Not sure anyone can overcome all the changing stories she put together. She’s her own worst enemy.

  63. 03/18/2013 at 11:40 pm

    Hello all,

    Ok I’m out of the rabbit hole thanks to Martinez. Time for some serious digestion of this.

    Now that Martinez has clearly shown this diagnosis of PTSD is inaccurate and therefore renders Dr Dodgy’s testimony flawed and irrelevant, can the judge instruct the jury to disregard his testimony? Why did she even let him testify in the first place he was so obviously wrong?

    He even seems to have changed his assessment from 6 to 4… wth? but I digress. scribbles and voodoo, no wonder psychologists have such a bad rep in many law enforcement circles. I’ve never seen anything that bad, even i could have ripped him to shreds at least from a psychology stand point. I’m STILL shaking my head over what he testified to I haven’t even started to process the Martinez cross.

  64. Tracey A
    03/18/2013 at 11:49 pm

    Hi Syntara. Last I saw you, you were heading out for beddie byes. Slept well I hope. Dr. Fog’s scribbles today just had me shaking my head too! He went from wanting to present an “ambush” PowerPoint presentation to scribbling on a legal pad. How’s that for professionalism.

    IMHO I think that the jury could disregard any or all because his testimony and testing is all based on JA’s lies.

  65. Anna Eaton
    03/18/2013 at 11:59 pm

    As no doubt mentioned a thousand times on this amplifying forum, I wanted to bring up the concept that ja (sick of bothering to capitalize her stupid initials) mixed truth with lies during that interview with, as she says ‘FLORez,’ on July 16th, 2008. In that interview she actually says that Travis uttered the words, “Shut up, just finish it.” I believe truth slipped out there, and Travis actually did say those words. I know I’ve buzzed about this before, but if that was true, it makes me want to be the person who actually administers her death shot. Oops, I mean injection. Are we being monitored by anyone other than donchais here? Must watch language. Still resisting tin foil. Think I can hold out….wish me luck.

  66. Nancy Pennington
    03/19/2013 at 12:01 am

    I’m adding my 2 cents so I can get on the right page for updates. No comment just two cents lol

  67. Anna Eaton
    03/19/2013 at 12:02 am

    Ok, forum was the wrong word. I mean comment section…

  68. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 12:03 am

    Does anyone know if in Arizona, do the judges give the instruction to the jury that if a witness (in this case JA) lies on the stand that the jury can dismiss her whole testimony?

  69. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 12:11 am

    One more question! Why do you all think that the defense completely changed her Dx. from last Thurs. when Dr Quack was saying that she had Transient Global Amnesia and today we’re told nope she does not have that–she has Dissociative Amnesia.

  70. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 12:12 am

    Nancy B – I believe you are correct. The Judge can instruct the jury that if they believe she lied, they can reject any or all of that testimony. It’s been pretty quiet here tonite, so I would think you’ll get more informed opinions as time rolls on.

  71. John
    03/19/2013 at 12:33 am

    The crowning moment for me today was when the quack was having his own “foggy” moments and Juan Martinez asked him if he had “memory problems”…LOL!!!! Even “clueless Willmott” was amused by that one.JM was awesome today and if anyone can get justice for Travis,he will!

  72. 03/19/2013 at 12:36 am

    One more question! Why do you all think that the defense completely changed her Dx. from last Thurs. when Dr Quack was saying that she had Transient Global Amnesia and today we’re told nope she does not have that–she has Dissociative Amnesia.

    Nooooo she has selective amnesia… I have the evidence…
    Syntara
    03/18/2013 at 2:40 pm

    ________————–_________—————__________

    This diagram depicts selective amnesia scaled to allow graphical representations to the limits of my ipad. Where the line rises More memory is allowed, as this is when its convenient to remember, The lower line depicts no memory because these memories would be inconvenient. This condition arises in 76% of the population to varying degrees and frequency.

    Syntara
    03/18/2013 at 2:42 pm
    it will likely affect murderers on the stand who have memories inconvenient to the defense they are concocting.

  73. SCK
    03/19/2013 at 12:42 am

    LadyInRed :
    I think they have to keep the prior Nurmi withdrawal motions out of the record as prejudicial to the defense. The HLN jury question was, “Did Travis Attack JA”. The panel voted 10-2 not guilty which means a hung jury.

    Any idea what the two jurors comments were who said they thought he attacked her??

  74. 03/19/2013 at 12:48 am

    The crowning moment for me today was when the quack was having his own “foggy” moments and Juan Martinez asked him if he had “memory problems

    Hahaha yeah that was hilarious. I burst out laughing when I saw Wilmott biting her lip to try to hide her obvious smile.

  75. 03/19/2013 at 12:50 am

    Correction *then* not when

  76. Bethany
    03/19/2013 at 12:53 am

    I think that Dr. Wackadoodle realized that he was so unprepared that started demonstrating the loss of memory through a stick drawing on a piece of paper that he had to steal from a third grader at the last minute!! Actually, thats an insult to third graders. A third grader could do better than this quack!!

  77. 03/19/2013 at 1:00 am

    I think that Dr. Wackadoodle realized that he was so unprepared that started demonstrating the loss of memory through a stick drawing on a piece of paper

    Ya think? Hahaha dunno he seemed to have no clue about anything…. Even having to reference the text book to remember PDS rofl! Yep yep yep. Tooo funny!

    Ps his line drawing was my inspiration. I’ve graduated from The Samuels school of brain activity depiction! Where’s my weetie box PhD?

  78. Bethany
    03/19/2013 at 1:00 am

    I was watching the last part of Dr. Drew tonight and one of the commentators, I’m not sure what her name was, stated that the only thing the Dr. got validated today was his parking. She talked about how Juan Martinez annihilated him. I had to laugh!! Finally a talking head who actually understands that nothing this quack has said was effective. I just hope that the jury was able to see through his complete BS.

  79. Bethany
    03/19/2013 at 1:05 am

    Syntara :

    Even having to reference the text book to remember PDS rofl!
    Ps his line drawing was my inspiration. I’ve graduated from The Samuels school of brain activity depiction! Where’s my weetie box PhD?

    Not to mention that he is using the outdated version of the DSM!! BTW, your line drawing would have been much better than his cheesy stick drawing.

  80. 03/19/2013 at 1:15 am

    On a serious note… The out dated DSM says it all really. He needs to update to the 21st century in his understanding of new research. Most of his therapeutic ideas are totally outdated. He should start with Dr George Simon’s “In sheeps clothing”

    One of my notations on Martinez cross so far

    “Dr Dodgy got asked the right questons and now finally realises lying invalidates the test therefore the diagnosis of PTSD.

    Well yay him. Obviously a breakthrough moment for him to realise he should have readministered the test, but another moment to Travis… thank heaven he didn”t!!

    His own. laziness invalidated his testimony. mmwmwhahahaha gotta love it! So glad JM has helped clear my fog I was truly nearing meltdown when Dr Dodgy was spewing that carp. I was wondering without a diagnosis of at least pathological liar how he was going to manage it but fortunately Dr Dodgy had assisted in the matter. “

  81. Bethany
    03/19/2013 at 1:20 am

    Syntara here is your Wheaties Box

  82. Bethany
    03/19/2013 at 1:21 am

    Bethany :
    Syntara here is your Wheaties Box

    I am not too savvy on this stuff I tried to paste an image of the wheaties box but I failed sorry

  83. 03/19/2013 at 1:25 am

    Haha thanks Bethany. Ok from here on I dub myself Dr Syn. PhD in selective amnesia and it’s effect on brain activity.

  84. Bethany
    03/19/2013 at 1:30 am

    Right on Dr.! From here on out I shall refer to you as Dr. Syntara! You could do much better than Dr. Wackadoodle!

  85. 03/19/2013 at 1:34 am

    Haha Beth 😀

    Ok must run need to get stuff done this afternoon. See you all l8r. *waves*

  86. 03/19/2013 at 1:52 am

    Quickie

    Anyone wanting to understand more about Jodi here’s a fabulous site with seemingly endless great articles.

    http://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/

  87. Douglme
    03/19/2013 at 3:04 am

    Tracey A :
    I’m so sick of the defense attys on HLN!!! Just listened to one that said the defense in this case is “brilliant”. WTH trial is he watching???

    No kidding!!!???

  88. Douglme
    03/19/2013 at 3:09 am

    Tracey A :
    Lisa you only have to watch part of the afternoon. The rest of the day was the Dr. Quack/Willmott snooze fest alternating with sidebars, a lot of sidebars!
    MMD – Completely agree with you. I was startled awake when I heard Juan going after him. LOL

    I hope the jury stayed awake for the afternoon show! JM was brilliant!

  89. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 6:17 am

    Syntara,, I looked at the web site about psychopathia which you posted and its really interesting, and chilling. If you substitute the word “psychopath” with Jodi Arias, every time it appears in the numerous articles, it makes just as much sense. She fits every symptom! Truly chilling.

  90. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 6:33 am

    “Anna Eaton on 03/18/2013 at 11:59 pm
    As no doubt mentioned a thousand times on this amplifying forum, I wanted to bring up the concept that ja (sick of bothering to capitalize her stupid initials) mixed truth with lies during that interview with, as she says ‘FLORez,’ on July 16th, 2008. In that interview she actually says that Travis uttered the words, “Shut up, just finish it.” I believe truth slipped out there, and Travis actually did say those words.”

    Liars always mix truth in with their lies. It makes it more believable. It’s what also makes them very slippery and hard to catch. I know a pathological liar who does that all the time. She lies to herself too. This is also something that mentally I’ll, especially paranoid people will do. The truth is mixed in with their paranoia so sometimes you almost believe their version of events. Conspiracy theorists are very good at this too.

  91. 03/19/2013 at 7:37 am

    Donchais Forgive me if I am off base here but you seem a little flat today. Please remember the words of Friederich Neitzsche in this instance:

    “When you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you”

    This is never truer than when dealing with a psychopath. Even the best amoung us can be drained emotionally and psychologically by these creatures. You have been at this 33 days watching and analysing. I hope you have lots of fun outlets in your life to maintain the balance. It’s really important with this one.

  92. GN5020
    03/19/2013 at 7:43 am

    There were so many ways that JM could discredit Dr. Quack’s “assessment” that I was at first concerned when he went into attack mode. (In fact, as much of a fan as I am, I thought the sarcastic “Are you having memory problems?” was unnecessary.) So I was happy that he regained composure and respectfully eviscerated Dr. Quack, pointing out the boundary issues and poor assessment techniques. Lies In/Lies Out. Enough Said. I don’t care if Dr. Quack used a pencil or pen, so I’d rather JM stay on a tighter focus.

    One of the most interesting things for me yesterday was Jodi’s activity. Looks like she wanted to be her own attorney again, taking copious notes (writing with both left and right hands, BTW) and whispering to Willmott, smirking at comments, etc. No lack of affect when her friendly doctor is getting grilled. Or is it that HER litigation plan is circling the drain before her eyes?

    The two biggest issues I have with this lame defense are:

    1. According to GMA, it has cost the taxpayers in AZ over $800,000 to defend JA, including paying idiots like Dr. Quack and Nurmi. And the meter is still on…

    2. Even if this jury doesn’t buy this crap, this attempt will probably open the door for other criminals to try to claim PTSD and Amnesia to avoid the consequences of their actions, with other expert witnesses like Dr. Quack.

  93. 03/19/2013 at 7:46 am

    Donchais, your summary was terrific as usual – TY. Lucked out with snow in my area, about two-three inches, and you?
    Nurmi reminds me of a walrus, with respect to the mammal. Don’t need to see him constantly flashing that gut of his. Yuk!!! Enough of that. The defense definitely did their homework last weekend watching all the media responses to their outstanstanding performance – just kidding.
    Martinez is absolutely superb! You know it’s coming with his subtle way of introducing small facts that lead to major blow-outs. Love, love him. The guy just amazes me with his small stature, but huge presence in the courtroom. Can’t say enough about him. Travis’ family must be so proud of him – such a huge voice that only “he” can represent Travis in this unforseen tragedy.
    Nurmi and Wilmont ought to prep JA better, as to not roll her eyes when Martinez speaks. Yeah, right – JA only listens to oneself. And, watching her scribble with that mini-pencil and eraser makes me want to puke. Can’t stand when the commentators call her “beautiful” or “attractive” 32-yr. old, blah, blah, blah – don’t see any beauty in that beast – just an evil, sadistic piece of crap. Being mild as to what I would really like to say. Surely, most of you feel the same and worse. That dead, blank stare is really creepy and to compare JA to any of our military, police or any individual that is really suffering PTSD is beyond pathetic.
    Samuels is so nervous, fumbling through his papers – how embarrasing for the defense. They should have known how JM performs in a courtroom years ago, and to have a witness be so unorganized is not going to fly with Martinez. He is not done ripping him to shreds – just the beginning. Can’t wait for today to finish him off, along with the rest.
    MMD – On a lighter note – I, also, am hooked on DWTS since Season 1. Flipping through between HLN and Dancing. Thought it was a good start, not sure of my fave yet!
    Look forward to reading all the great comments coming through Donchais’ site.

  94. Observer
    03/19/2013 at 7:55 am

    Anna Eaton :As no doubt mentioned a thousand times on this amplifying forum, I wanted to bring up the concept that ja (sick of bothering to capitalize her stupid initials) mixed truth with lies during that interview with, as she says ‘FLORez,’ on July 16th, 2008. In that interview she actually says that Travis uttered the words, “Shut up, just finish it.” I believe truth slipped out there, and Travis actually did say those words.

    Anna Eaton, Jodi told Flores one of the Ninjas said “Shut up. Finish it” while they were deciding whether to kill her. The only truth she spoke during that interview was “there was blood everywhere” and that “Travis screamed in pain” and was trying to get away and then he was just lying there unconscious.

  95. Observer
    03/19/2013 at 8:08 am

    She just can’t keep her lies straight. She told the jury two different stories about the rope during testimony. She testified her hands were tied with the rope and once she slipped her hands out and once Travis cut it. She told Dr. Fraud she was tied at the hands and ankles and as Travis approached climax, he cut the ropes. As Martinez says she lies to benefit herself. She just made up the rope to take the suspicion off her. She wants the jury to believe she didn’t bring the knife that she stabbed him with. She wants the jury to believe Travis brought the knife upstairs to cut rope to tie her up. There was no rope. The knife that killed Travis was never found at the crime scene. She brought the knife and gun and disposed of both of them..

  96. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 8:09 am

    jessi :
    Love, love him. The guy just amazes me with his small stature, but huge presence in the courtroom. Can’t say enough about him. Travis’ family must be so proud of him – such a huge voice that only “he” can represent Travis in this unforeseen tragedy.

    I just love, love, love JM as well, I think that is what is so awesome about him. Because he has a small stature, he does not appear intimidating so he can get to the truth bobbing here, there, back here, whereas Wurmi would appear intimidating just because of his sheer size, Mind you, the slow hulking, awkward movements of the sloth (no offense to the animal) plus his really slow and dumb questions, would quickly show what a true hineybutt he is.

    I’m sure that the jury is smart enough to see who is REALLY looking for the truth and who is just trying to obfuscate the the facts.

    As for Dr. Quack, well he simply discredited himself – didn’t need a bit of help from anyone. I wonder which state he will try next?????? Wherever it is, they have my condolences. It would be nice if he would simply retire to some third word country so he can see what PTSD really looks like and maybe they could cook him and have a good meal! LOL win/win as far as I can tell. LOL (and no, I’m not a believer in cannibalism)

  97. ritanita
    03/19/2013 at 8:13 am

    donchais :
    NancyB Think the hand stand vid!

    I thought so as well. I read this morning that Juan wants to introduce a portion of his video-taped interview with Samuels where Samuels failed to maintain boundaries between himself and the person he was evaluating.

    I sure hope the judge lets this in, so “Gus the Duck” sweats a whole lot more.

    On Thursday, I almost gagged when this “expert” referred to Jodi’s actions as a crime. Then last night, while viewing HLN which was way behind, I heard him reference this as a horrendous crime! Way to go…

    Looking forward to today’s continuation of the slicing and dicing. I want to see Willmott’s deer-in-the-headlights look and Nurmi’s scowls. I want to see Jodi retreat even more into her evil, blank stare and almost comatose state as her case crumbles around her.

    And, you all have to know that this is only a precursor to Alyce, the DV expert. Let’s hope she has more class than “Gus the Duck” and testifies on the up-and-up.

    Doing my happy dance with Donchais’ monogrammed barf bag and tinfoil hat with antenna!

  98. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 8:17 am

    Anna Eaton :
    as she says ‘FLORez,’ on July 16th, 2008.

    That so annoys me. She always refers to him that way instead of showing a tiny bit of respect and saying Det. Flores. By the way that she acts, you’d have no idea that she is fighting for her life!!!!!! disrespectful little bitch……………… and I know all the reasons why she acts the way she does, but it still bothers me! 😦

  99. ritanita
    03/19/2013 at 8:18 am

    NancyB :
    Does anyone know if in Arizona, do the judges give the instruction to the jury that if a witness (in this case JA) lies on the stand that the jury can dismiss her whole testimony?

    In short, YES. This is true for any witness. From what I understand, there is an additional instruction stating that the defendant’s testimony is self-serving and should be taken as such. Jodi fails on both counts big time.

  100. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 8:22 am

    ritanita :
    >Doing my happy dance with Donchais’ monogrammed barf bag and tinfoil hat with antenna!

    I think we all are. I bet the jury can’t wait to get back into court today to see JM finish off Dr. Quack! After all, they’re only human so they must be lovin’ this too! 🙂

  101. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 8:28 am

    I said this yesterday but I really wish that JM would reproduce! I think it would be so terrific for the state of AZ to have a bunch of miniature JMs, all in search of the truth, coming up the ranks following in daddy’s footsteps. Bet the crime rate in the Phoenix area would really drop and it would help certainly clear up the court backlog!

  102. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 8:44 am

    I know it’s petty, but I looooooved when JM asked Dr. Quack if he had memory problems 🙂

    I couldn’t even stand to put on HLN last night. By the time I got off here it was 11:00 and even though I wanted to see Vinnie’s reconstruction of TA’s ppty, I simply couldn’t bear to watch Bozo. I’m still sick about that verdict and poor Caylee.

    So I shut off my computer and “tried”, lots of emphasis on tried, to go to sleep. It’s really bad when you can’t shut your mind off to so to sleep. If i am eating, living, sleeping this trial, just imagine the pain and suffering that the Alexander family is going through. Their suffering throughout this dog and pony show must be excruciating. Thank God for JM! The way he talks and consults with them you know how much he cares!

    Sending the Alexander family hugs (((((( ))))))) from all us!

  103. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 8:49 am

    donchais :
    MMD Wasn’t bad, just messy. Should be gone today with an all-day rain event.

    That’s what Ontario/Quebec got as well. We are so far away from plus temperatures that they are still calling for lots of snow once its converges here! Oh well, at least I get to hide under my plaid flannel nightie longer so that’s a plus! 🙂

  104. donchais
    03/19/2013 at 8:58 am

    Notes from the lady in court:

    Media section pretty empty today.

    Hearing??? Oh guess they worked through it, no hearing.

    So we have a little nice break before court now.

    Two women I don’t recognize sitting next to me. I figure out they are the ladies who created the Support for Juan Martinez FB page (I was just on it this weekend!). They’ve not been to court before so are asking me lots of questions about the this and that. Good people.

    Joilyn and I are also still reeling from Sat…she’s not been sleeping well..just so many emotions and so much energy going on.

    Ann who is one of the ladies who created that FB page sat on a Juan Martinez jury 22 years ago! She was the only woman on the jury and they convicted a man of assault.

    Jury files in…JA is vonTrapping in her weird green/brown sweater combo from the defense table. I saw her all animated with JW then once the jury comes in she goes all flat…chameleon sociopathic performance.

    Lots of new hairdos today: tri color (same just spruced up), Nancy, Housewife and even JW herself.

    Wrestler is wearing a white wrinkled T shirt , board shorts and flip flops (rough night last night?)

    Barb looks out at the gallery for a long time…I feel like she’s looking at me.

    So Gus Jr. takes the stand.

    Note takers at first are:

    Housewife, Paul Rudd, CEO, Barb, Maureen

    Housewife just took out a blank page…juror question?

    There is a juror ? in the basket..not sure when it got there or from whom..when they first came in.

    My 4 pack on the back isn’t buying it. At all.

    So once again we hear about how Jodi infected herself with PTSD by killing Travis. Ok, whatever.

    Tri color leaning over intensely writing…looks to be a juror ?

    Ok it was cuz she just placed a question in the basket.

    JA more animated today..she keeps looking back but NOT at her mother. Donavan is there.

    At one point Donavan has a long talk with the bailiff. I hear she’s a tattletale, so wonder who she was tattling on.

    $amuels does navel intelligence toward his brain picture on the screen (turned away from jurors).

    Ok now he swivels.

    dissociative amnesia is usually associated with criminal behavior–WTH?

    Another juror question goes in the basket.

    What about WAR? Troops? Refugees? He’s fos.

    If people lose all ability to store memory then explain the flashback phenomena. This is BS. Read Waking the Tiger (a great book on PTSD by the way).

    Vets w/ PTSD are haunted by memories …this is tailored to using this to make a criminal not take responsbility. Quack!

    when he said “change of story” JM objected NOT the “truth”. STRONG

    Interesting that Jennifer Willmott chose navy blue to wear the day she’s on stage, after this past weekend, to examine this witness.

    CEO lots of note taking.

    Only notes on the back now : Maureen, Barb, occasionally Neil (not much)

    Ponytail is basically examining her split ends on her bangs or her fingernails all day (seriously).

    Front note takers: CEO, Paul R. , Nancy, tri, Housewife

    Waking the Tiger refutes all of this (animal research on trauma)

    she said she was “covered with blood” in the car when she began erupted out of her fauxg hmmmmmmmmmmm

    she testified only blood on her hands/no blood in the car

    JW is not very commanding

    Complaint issue coming up wow she’s winding down already? he comes across defensive, blaming, excuses, “it wasn’t MY fault” BIG BABY

    CEO listening intensely to this complaint issue testimony, lots of note taking, tri also very attentive

    he comes across whiny on this

    Ponytail picking her nails throughout this whiny BS

    CEO hand over mouth during this blah blah blah (right here Joilyn peeks at my notes and takes my pen and writes “who is” pointing to CEO note..I tell her which–this begins the day of this journal flying down the row with people writing their notes on it too..ha!)

    He seems so unprofessional on this.J

    He comes across so shady.

    He’s talking as much about this and with more animation than anything else he’s testified too..he has alot of energy around this issue. He seems snotty and angry.

    GOOBER
    Ponytail has lost all interest.

    JA just swiveled and gave a sarcastic look at someone…not her Mom.
    Sidebar–CEO bent over looking down at feet tapping feet. He seems annoyed and frustrated much of the day during this Dr. testimony until you know what’s coming

    Barb rubbing forehead. Jury generally seems weary.

    JW may need to attend a funeral this week..Janine not coming this week , forgot to mention.

    JA over there writing feverishly with her left hand. I see her bony arm.

    JA vonTrapping from the defense table, of course.

    $amuels keeps “steepling” another JD move we learned but none of us can remember what it means. We are looking though. He also constantly covers his right fist with left hand while testifying..this all changes under cross w/ Juan.

    Re: psychosexual risk assessment he comes across as someone who helps pervs and not ONE juror taking notes.

    Joilyn grabs my journal: “Back row, girl closest to us has not stopped picking her nails” (Ponytail)

    JA looking at the jury.

    CEO just did this move (hard to describe): like hand to chin, head sways quickly back and forth as in “yeah…right”. I know hard to picture. to me a sign of not buying it, frustrated.

    1st three jurors looking at screen behind the witness, the rest the Jumbo Tron

    Trump (juror 2) almost got on the elevator with us 3 after lunch.

    C next to me grabs my journal and writes “her handwriting didn’t change” and later clarifies meaning after she supposedly had that splint on it it never changed referencing the journal entry they showed on the screen.

    Now Joilyn grabs it (ha! this is great the journal is now the community journal) and writes “Julie just saw Jodi take a drink w/ her right hand. NORMAL not the awkward left handed drinking she was doing on the stand”

    Interesting….

    These notes are a little foggy but it’s what I wrote:

    low self esteem

    NOT a sociopath! No Remorse! “almost cried out to me”

    this is diagnostic? NO!

    only Housewife and tri taking notes on this self esteem BS

    “the story that she ultimately changed to”

    Emphasis STORY!
    No note taking during “therapy” testimony.

    Joilyn grabs again “this jury is not even listening..they are falling asleep!”

    I respond “do they deliver Starbucks in here?” lol

    She was VERY animated in those media interviews (response to his calling her affect flat for PTSD)

    Only person is Housewife on this psychobabble excuse making BS

    “strange as it sounds” yes it does sound strange because it is far fetched BS

    Not a mother she could confide in? WTH? Her mother is right here! ( I look over at her, no change in affect)

    CEO looks pissed as they talk about the flowers she sent the grandmother..his jaw is clenching.

    Know how you close your eyes then looking slowly to one side and open them slowly like “ok whatever” CEO just did that. He’s barely containing his frustration imo…he’s just been over this since that one THurs imo.

    If he tries to lump ALL her bizarre lying etc. behaviors in to this PTSD, he’s lost them completely.

    Once again she shakes but doesn’t shake. Ok.

    Another juror question comes in…saw CEO place it but not sure who gave it.

    Ponytail still in full manicure mode.

    So it seems to me his primary role here is to explain how she “forgot” the stabbing, deleting, cleaning, laundry, packing, driving, disposing of weapons, etc. Good luck.

    Very little note taking now. Maureen still has her navel intelligence, same with housewife.

    During a sidebar Julie giving us peppermint oil to keep us awak and we are smelling in with our hands in our faces and putting it on our necks..I notice CEO watching us. lol

    zero jurors look over at JA during Sidebar…LONG sidebar.

    Ponytail now holding her forehead. Jury looks tired and restless, crunching their necks, stretching, looking around yawning

    She’s finishing up..then quickly the “counsel approach” an audible sigh near me (Jeff Gold?).

    CEO does one of those close eye things again.

    JW comes across too perky and glib..it’s not working. SHe smiles as she passes the jury, not one smiles back.

    HERE COMES JUAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He has a stereo (bose) on the desk , wonder what he’s gonna play. He kind of touches it and adjusts it you know he’s gonna use it.

    ALL jurors perk up. CEO starts the note taking again. Even Willie note taking on this. Ponytail still chews her nails. Paul R and Tri taking notes. Trump hands Housewife a blank piece of paper from his binder..for a juror question maybe? They both chuckle.

    Grandpa and Tri share a laugh.

    Jury asked to leave.

    Nurmi arguing this interesting motion in limine lots of referencing his request to get booted from the case. 6th amendment?

    “doing that, while clever…” he says

    JM wants to play interview he had with $amuels.

    He sent her GIFTS!

    blurred the line
    bailiff talking to donovan now during the samuels argument outside the jury

    Flores copy interview (not sure what this means)

    How interesting “Your Erroneous Zones” he gave her…play on erogenous zones hmmmm

    Juan is making mincemeat out of him. CEO very attentive.

    Tri color wrote a note on blank paper.

    He IS like Gus–combative, argumentative

    NOtetakers: CEO Nancy Housewife Paul R

    Glad JM is suggesting they discussed sexual stuff

    JM smacking his hand smack smack smack!!! LOUD

    Increased chatter all around me after this exchange

    concerned she was suicidal but not familiar with the treatment protocol at the jail but sends her an outdated book?

    “you don’t have any memory problems do you?” Entire court chuckles SNAP!

    CEO very attentive, taking notes.

    Ponytail has concluded her beauty regime and is taking notes now.

    He’s defensive, snotty, covering his mouth with his hand during much of this

    Willie note taking

    Jodi smiling w/ her chin in hand at $amuels (yes I do write it that way long hand)

    Lots of fast note taking CEO

    6 jurors on the front taking notes re: this “ethical dilemna”

    JM “not from MY perspective, from anybody’s perspective!” snap!

    Tricolor very attentive

    He’s demolishing this dude’s credibility

    $2500 fine

    Jeff Gold keeps chuckling behind me as in disbelief

    “you can’t even remember the title” re: the test he adminstered

    Joilyn whipsers “I love Martinez”

    Tri sits up like a meerkat now when JM says “isn’t it true she lied on this test?”

    He’s kicking this dude’s A$$

    Joilyn grabs journal “I see Al Pacino playing him! Gus’s head is getting shiny! SWEAT!”

    “you’re the person who filled out the answers”

    He looks like a buffoon

    “No sir I’m asking you some questions”

    Tri color non stop note taking

    Maureen lots of note taking

    C write “unethical”

    JA over there writing with her RIGHT hand

    Joilyn writes “I just asked Julie B4 the break if she really was left handed”

    What evaluator goes to administer a test without the proper answer form and wings it with scratch paper?

    Absent minded? Something fishy?

    JM desk highly organized as always. Working off his notes from direct on a yellow legal pad.

    Ponytail, Maureen, church lady all taking notes

    Nonsexual assault/stranger = NINJAS

    The entire PTSD eval based on her false story

    Talk about getting PTSD! Gus Jr entire head sweating

    JM voice is SO strong! GO JUAN

    Jodi wrote a note to JW before last sidebar

    He doesn’t even know hiw own test paper who wrote what. Really?

    Again JM flips a witness.

    CEO lots of note taking.

    “perhaps I should have readministered the test” (line of the day)

    This witness is toast.

    “Why are you filling this out and not her?”

    left her answer form on his desk OK?

    Willie stretching, Poquito Mas swiveling

    3 female jurors hands over mouth

    BUFFOON!!

    He doesn’t have the questions or the answers. Ok.

    JA’s mom still has the Mickey Mouse journal or maybe a new one? I go through one journal in a week!

    Joilyn writes “MY DOG ATE IT!” and honestly it was all my composure and hers to keep from utterly losing it in hysteria. I had to look away and close my eyes for a sec..she had her head buried in my shoulder…shaking with internal laughter.

    Another Cathy two seats down asks for my journal and returns it with

    “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I instruct you to please disregard the testimony of this non expert witness” lol

    Oversight? Really? You come to court to give an opinion based on it and it’s an “oversight?”

    Tied at the ankle twice???

    Note takers taking!

    Someone grabs my journal and writes IDIOT!

  105. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 10:24 am

    OMG – we seriously have all died and gone to trial heaven complete with chocolate sauce and a cherry on top between donchais and “lady in court” (plus her helpers)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL

    I have no idea how they kept in the hysteria because I sure couldn’t!!! : – ) Truly, I don’t know what we all did previously to end up being so lucky and finding this site!!! We really do have the best seat in the house!!!

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, to both of you!!!!!!! 🙂 🙂

    • Laine
      03/19/2013 at 10:28 am

      Yup! What you said!! With s cherry on top! 🙂 also thanks to all you guys for your insights and thoughts and research you are all amazing! I love reading your synopsise!

  106. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 10:40 am

    From Synatra: “When you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you” Nietsche

    I never heard that quote before, very interesting. This is one reason why I wish the cameras in the courtroom wouldn’t focus on Jodi at all. That blank look on her face, ugh. This is probably why we all went a little crazy during the Casey Anthony trial. I remember being a little appalled with all the people outside the courtroom calling for her head even though I wanted her to be convicted as much as anyone, I found the bloodthirsty people a little scary.
    In any case, words of wisdom from the often-misunderstood Nietsche.

  107. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 10:57 am

    Lady in Court: ” JA is vonTrapping in her weird green/brown sweater combo from the defense table.”

    LOL!!
    But I sincerely hope these ladies do not lol on court and force a mistrial!! Stop the note passing!!

  108. Observer
    03/19/2013 at 10:57 am

    Here’s an audio of the first day of the Jodi Arias trial. Martinez opening statement is brilliant for any of you who missed it or want to hear the feisty prosecutor and his first witness, Mimi Hall’s enlightening testimony. Nurmi opens the door for Martiinez to bring up the stalking. Martinez drivers through the door in a mac truck. It also includes Wilmott’s “Travis made her do it” opening statement. I listened to it while I lifted weights and did aerobics.

  109. 03/19/2013 at 10:58 am

    Donchais Glad to see you are firing on all cylinders! Awesome info! Thanks for everything you do. 🙂

    jad I have posted all parts on day 32 (14 March 2013) I did not want to clog up this day with them they are long but wow… now the story seems to be coming together very nicely; a diabolical work in progress.

    I’m working on a story so far note form which I’ll post in here. Then further tuning and adjustments can be made by others as more workable facts come to light.

    Lisa M I have to confess I’m generally not a fan of Nietzsche but this quote resonates with me after having to deal with the abyss.

    ________________

    Not caught up on comments but will read them soon as I can.

  110. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 11:02 am

    Correction: in court, not on court. Seriously I’m a little nervous one if them is going to laugh out loud. No offense intended bc I think she’s hysterical BUT the note passing makes me a little worried. And remember, this may be funny but Travis’ family is also sitting in that courtroom and none if this is funny to them. Don’t mean to sound sanctimonious, I enjoyed the post, it was very funny, but how can you be passing notes in court? Or passing journals?

  111. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 11:08 am

    Lisa M :
    Wow, thanks for the info, guys. I did not know Wurmi was trying to leave the case. Does anyone know why? It cant have been because of any moral dilemma because we know that would require a conscience. Maybe it was the low pay? So Jodi was depressed about that
    and that’s why this so-called PTSD expert sent her the self-help book?

    Hi Lisa M – Compliments of Chris Stark – this explains all of it.

    17 Mar chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

    @_tmazur @betty3059 #JodiArias MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information (cont) http://tl.gd/l8bs75

  112. Grace
    03/19/2013 at 11:14 am

    Hello Everyone,

    I’ve been reading all the great posts here for quite some time. Donchais, you have created a forum of integrity and quality information; it’s the only site I come to for my ‘fix’. Thank you!

    Having been in the mental health field for over 25 years, I’m always fascinated with how professionals explain bizarre behavior. Unfortunately, because the field of psychology must prove it is a ‘valid science’, it relies on its only scientific tool — the DSM. The problem is, there is very little science that goes into the DSM, but the psychobabble labels gives the illusion that we understand and can explain why people do what they do. Do I sound jaded?

    I’ve also had the unique opportunity to be a Reviewer for the State (CT) when complaints are filed against therapists – it satisfies my voyeurism diagnosis.

    I gotta say, if I were Dr. Samuels, I would have high tailed it out of Dodge before the Shark had a chance to shred me to pieces. No amount of money would be worth the public humiliation.

    In spite of the Defense bringing the ethical complaint against Samuels out in the open, Martinez burrowed into the Ethics issue like a starving tick on a fat dog. Samuels was clearly in distress when it finally dawned on him that the Shark caught his scent. His face turned so many shades of red. I wonder if the Judge told him to stop clicking his pen? Martinez effectively showed that Samuels was still blurring boundaries, created a conflict of interest, and therefore could not be an impartial expert witness.

    There was no reason for Samuels not to tape record his evaluation of JA because he was not there to establish a therapeutic bond. Maybe Nurmi told him not to? I was going mental (no pun intended) when Martinez brought up the “suicidal” notation on his notes, and Samuels makes a lame attempt at trying to explain that away. He has a Duty to Report any suicidal ideation to the proper authorities. By not informing a prison official, he was in ethical violation. Of course, he seems – like Nurmi – to have soaked up the mojo from their clientele and use word games… “That’s not what I meant by suicidal.” Really? What other kinds of suicidal are there?

    And then the Angels sang sweetly once the “test” came into the discussion and Samuels admitted he failed to administer the test again once another ‘truth’ came from JA. OMG! AND by transcribing JA’s answers to the official answer sheet himself also brings the validity of the results into question. In other words, it adds a confounding variable, which anyone in his position would avoid like the plague.

    Considering what a high profile case this is, Samuels should have had the most essential paper work with him instead of all his notebooks (not to mention his little pocket DSM III). Maybe Samuels should have purchased a little pocket DSM IV (the red book Willmott kept referring to) from Amazon along with the book he gave to JA. Might have saved on S & H.

    Thank you for letting me rant. Looking forward to this afternoon.

    • donchais
      03/19/2013 at 11:22 am

      Thanks Grace and welcome aboard!

  113. janeto
    03/19/2013 at 11:28 am

    Great post donchais, as I missed yesterday. Great comments everybody!!!

  114. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 11:28 am

    chris stark ‏@stark3923

    “expert” Alyce Laviolette has been in the court room for almost the whole trial therefore she can go through #JodiArias testimony

    Interesting. IMO Laviolette seems to be a pretty hardcore feminist to a fault — to the point of discounting the possibility of men being domestic violence victims. So I’m just guessing that her testimony in particular will go the farthest to support JA, even in the face of substanial evidence that would suggest that Jodi was not a victim of abuse and in fact had been the abusive partner in the relationship.

  115. Observer
    03/19/2013 at 11:33 am

    donchais :Notes from the lady in court:
    “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I instruct you to please disregard the testimony of this non expert witness” lol
    Oversight? Really? You come to court to give an opinion based on it and it’s an “oversight?”
    Tied at the ankle twice???
    Note takers taking!
    Someone grabs my journal and writes IDIOT!

    I luv that lady. Sounds like the jury sees through the quack. And loves Juan. Can’t blame them. Juan rides in on his white horse and shoots holes in the pathetic defense. He is feisty, fiery and cremates all the defense’s shady little tricks. He is making Travis’s family proud.

  116. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 11:35 am

    Welcome Grace!

    We are a truly global group as this trial seems to have the word’s attention.
    If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez.

    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger! Another bonus that donchais provides free of charge is that on days when there isn’t trial scheduled, she keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. Truly a public service in itself, although a great deal of online shopping does occur!

    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy! It really is a great group of people! 🙂

  117. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 11:38 am

    janeto :
    Great post donchais, as I missed yesterday. Great comments everybody!!!

    Just watch the last part of the afternoon on YouTube where JM absolutely shone!!!!! The rest was an embarrassing snore-fest for everyone, especially the jury!

    How’s the company? xo your peeps

  118. Anna Eaton
    03/19/2013 at 11:39 am

    The notes from the lady in court help to sort of visualize what it might be like if you were there. How cool it would be to see the jury ‘in action’! Thank you so much for letting us read that!!
    Also, ditto to MMD’s comment, “Sending the Alexander family hugs (((((( ))))))) from all us!”

  119. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 11:42 am

    Observer :
    I luv that lady. Sounds like the jury sees through the quack. And loves Juan. Can’t blame them. Juan rides in on his white horse and shoots holes in the pathetic defense. He is feisty, fiery and cremates all the defense’s shady little tricks. He is making Travis’s family proud.

    Ain’t it the truth – and that is the whole reason he is doing what he is doing!!!! He’s getting justice for TA and his family!

  120. 03/19/2013 at 11:43 am

    Grace Agreed .. I hate what Dr Dodgy did to the field of psychology. As stated before with ambassadors like him no wonder this important field gets so ridiculed in law enforcement circles. I was ready to throw something at my TV as I was watching him, it was disgusting.

  121. 03/19/2013 at 11:47 am

    Grace What about the obvious changing of 6 to 4. What’s your thoughts there. It makes no sense to me why that number would change in a valid situation.

  122. Anna Eaton
    03/19/2013 at 11:48 am

    Grace: Welcome and great post! It’s a privilege to hear perspective from someone in the mental health field.
    And to MMD: I’m just going to hand over my microphone to you today (and how did you know about recent surge in online shopping??). Love, love this:

    “An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger! Another bonus that donchais provides free of charge is that on days when there isn’t trial scheduled, she keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. Truly a public service in itself, although a great deal of online shopping does occur!”

  123. Anna Eaton
    03/19/2013 at 11:59 am

    …sorry, I meant MY recent surge….had to correct

  124. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 12:03 pm

    NancyB :
    chris stark ‏@stark3923
    “expert” Alyce Laviolette has been in the court room for almost the whole trial therefore she can go through #JodiArias testimony
    Interesting. IMO Laviolette seems to be a pretty hardcore feminist to a fault — to the point of discounting the possibility of men being domestic violence victims. So I’m just guessing that her testimony in particular will go the farthest to support JA, even in the face of substanial evidence that would suggest that Jodi was not a victim of abuse and in fact had been the abusive partner in the relationship.

    It will be interesting to see what tact that JM takes with her! I have no doubt that they would have crossed paths before.

  125. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 12:04 pm

    MMD :
    OMG – we seriously have all died and gone to trial heaven complete with chocolate sauce and a cherry on top between donchais and “lady in court” (plus her helpers)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL
    I have no idea how they kept in the hysteria because I sure couldn’t!!! : – ) Truly, I don’t know what we all did previously to end up being so lucky and finding this site!!! We really do have the best seat in the house!!!
    Thank you, thank you, thank you, to both of you!!!!!!!

    You about said it all for me there MMD!!! Just Brillliant! Thanks Donchais and Lady in Court, while reading that I felt as if I were sitting alongside them!

    Here’s a visual to go along with “bailiff talking to donovan now during the samuels argument outside the jury” (JA’s Jail Pal/GF?):
    pic.twitter.com/IOKA0gktWk

    Repost of “our jurors” taken from Lady in Court’ description for any that haven’t seen it so that the names will make more sense:
    http://westlondondesigns.com/grafx/Jurors.pdf

    I’m waiting with bated breath for today’s testimony!!! 🙂

  126. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 12:05 pm

    Anna Eaton :
    …sorry, I meant MY recent surge….had to correct

    I think everyone has had a surge! LOL After all, Amazon is our friend 🙂

  127. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 12:14 pm

    MMD :

    The graphic didn’t hyperlink in my last post, here is the full link:

  128. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 12:19 pm

    Grace :
    Hello Everyone,
    I’ve been reading all the great posts here for quite some time. Donchais, you have created a forum of integrity and quality information; it’s the only site I come to for my ‘fix’. Thank you!
    Having been in the mental health field for over 25 years, I’m always fascinated with how professionals explain bizarre behavior. Unfortunately, because the field of psychology must prove it is a ‘valid science’, it relies on its only scientific tool — the DSM. The problem is, there is very little science that goes into the DSM, but the psychobabble labels gives the illusion that we understand and can explain why people do what they do. Do I sound jaded?
    I’ve also had the unique opportunity to be a Reviewer for the State (CT) when complaints are filed against therapists – it satisfies my voyeurism diagnosis.

    Welcome Grace!! Thanks for the informative post! We are lucky to have you on board and I look forward to hearing more of your observations regarding Dr. Dirt and comments in general 🙂

  129. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Hi Lisa M – Compliments of Chris Stark – this explains all of it.
    17 Mar chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923
    @_tmazur @betty3059 #JodiArias MUST READ – BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information (cont) http://tl.gd/l8bs75

    Thanks! That was very interesting. Of particular note, Jodi’s interest in defending herself, wow can you imagine? And the motion to not allow Travis to be referred to as the victim. Unbelievable! I’m sure they would like Jodi to be referred to as the victim. But thankfully, the justice system is not run by psychopaths and their defenders!

  130. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 12:22 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Repost of “our jurors” taken from Lady in Court’ description for any that haven’t seen it so that the names will make more sense:

    Thanks Chrissie – that really adds to my visual although I still take issue with DT. LOL I now have it safely filed so I won’t lose it again.

    As for Donovan – ain’t love simply grand! 🙂 I can’t wait for today’s testiphony either. You would think that with JM’s reputation that professionals, and I use that word loosely when it comes to Dr. Quack, would be fully prepared. Half the world now knows about his work ethic, laser focus on even the most minute details and grueling cross examinations.

    I guess Dr. Quack missed that memo as well.

  131. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 12:25 pm

    Observer :
    Here’s an audio of the first day of the Jodi Arias trial. Martinez opening statement is brilliant for any of you who missed it or want to hear the feisty prosecutor and his first witness, Mimi Hall’s enlightening testimony. Nurmi opens the door for Martiinez to bring up the stalking. Martinez drivers through the door in a mac truck. It also includes Wilmott’s “Travis made her do it” opening statement. I listened to it while I lifted weights and did aerobics.


    I just started to watch this, and the first thing I noticed was Jodi’s “old” glasses. Wow, quite stylish, weren’t they? Someone should put together a photo montage of the evolution of her eyeglasses since trial began.

  132. Grace
    03/19/2013 at 12:28 pm

    Thank you for your warm welcome ~

    Syntara, I’m not sure about the change from 6 to 4, other than Samuels shoddy work. It looks like it is a ‘total’ number and coincides with the raw scores Martinez was asking about. Since Samuels left his homework on his desk (seriously?), what these numbers are referencing will be made clearer today.

    How can Alyce Laviolette attend the trial if she is a witness? I read her CV and it’s quite impressive, even without the pedigree Samuels holds, she will be a formidable opponent.

    And yes, I too am in love with Juan!

  133. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 12:29 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    The graphic didn’t hyperlink in my last post, here is the full link:

    Thanks Chrissie – now I know what hyperlink mean as we all know how computer illiterate I am (as I put my head down in shame) 😦 I opened it up in another tab because I wondered why it didn’t turn blue. Thank goodness everyone has patience here! 🙂

  134. 03/19/2013 at 12:32 pm

    yikes sorry for totally bold post! sheesh didnt close a tag darnit!

  135. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 12:33 pm

    MMD :
    I guess Dr. Quack missed that memo as well.

    LOL! Ummmm, it must be on my desk… I think I have it at home… (Well, it wasn’t like he had anything important going on yesterday right?) I’d be shivering in me timbers if I were him today, no doubt he’s been up using his “pencil” all night – why does the name Eraser Head come to mind? 🙂

  136. 03/19/2013 at 12:36 pm

    Grace Yes that’s what I’m expecting. I was trying to imagine a legitimate reason to have changed it.

    ‘m thinking it will better suit his tailored diagnosis and hoping Juan has enough evidence to show the difference between the 6 and 4 is of great significance to that end.

    I thought you might have some idea because I don’t just heavy laden suspicion.

  137. 03/19/2013 at 12:44 pm

    Donchais Can you delete #141 Please!! This is how it should have posted.

    Notes on Notes from the lady in court:

    “So once again we hear about how Jodi infected herself with PTSD by killing Travis. Ok, whatever – LOL

    dissociative amnesia is usually associated with criminal behavior–WTH? HAHAHA!! Exactly – BS Meter through the roof!!

    Interesting that Jennifer Willmott chose navy blue to wear the day she’s on stage, after this past weekend, to examine this witness. Very interested in significance of this anyone know?

    CEO lots of note taking. – Forgive my ignorance but what/who does CEO refer to in this context?

    Ponytail is basically examining her split ends on her bangs or her fingernails all day (seriously). ROFL… who is ponytail?

    Complaint issue coming up wow she’s winding down already? he comes across defensive, blaming, excuses, “it wasn’t MY fault” BIG BABY LOL!! Sooo true!!

    CEO hand over mouth during this blah blah blah (right here Joilyn peeks at my notes and takes my pen and writes “who is” pointing to CEO note..I tell her which–this begins the day of this journal flying down the row with people writing their notes on it too..ha!) Glad I’m not the only one asking!

    Ponytail has lost all interest. hhhahahaha I love ponytail and I don’t even know who it is!

    $amuels – HAHAHAHAH love it!!!

    Joilyn grabs my journal: “Back row, girl closest to us has not stopped picking her nails” (Ponytail) – are these Jurors?

    Trump (juror 2) almost got on the elevator with us 3 after lunch – ok now strongly suspecting they are all jurors

    Reference to her ambidexterity.. I’m somewhat ambidextrous I play many games and snooker left handed naturally I didn’t even realise it until it was pointed out to me. But I can tell you my writing with my left hand is very different than with my right, right is far more natural feeling. i think you could tell it’s the same person but there is a distinct difference. Likely she taught herself in prison if you practice deliberately writing with your off hand it does get better.

    So it seems to me his primary role here is to explain how she “forgot” the stabbing, deleting, cleaning, laundry, packing, driving, disposing of weapons, etc. Good luck. spot on!!

    “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I instruct you to please disregard the testimony of this non expert witness” lol – This is what I asked.. under Arizona law could the judge actually do this?

    I love this I love this… I still haven’t done Martinez properly but this is soooooo good!!

  138. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 12:50 pm

    Grace :
    I read her CV and it’s quite impressive, even without the pedigree Samuels holds, she will be a formidable opponent.

    She has co-written a book published in 2000 on Amazon with only 4 reviews, (last time I checked) and one of those was a slam for her defending JA. But low and behold she has a brand spanking new edition with an April release, of course available for pre-order now – just in time for the trial. Conflict?

  139. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 12:57 pm

    Syntara :d hers

    This is from Chrissie – post 134 above 🙂
    Repost of “our jurors” taken from Lady in Court’ description for any that haven’t seen it so that the names will make more sense:
    http://westlondondesigns.com/grafx/Jurors.pdf

  140. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:00 pm

    Just saw this on the Twit LOL!

  141. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:01 pm

    OK folks, I have my 2 livestreams set up. They did say 10:00 for today didn’t they???

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Judge Stephens is finishing up some other cases at the moment. Media

  142. 03/19/2013 at 1:02 pm

    Vickee Thank-you for your very kind words. (3/14) You have no idea the effect your words had on me. *tissue box*.

  143. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:03 pm

    MMD :
    OK folks, I have my 2 livestreams set up. They did say 10:00 for today didn’t they???
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Judge Stephens is finishing up some other cases at the moment. Media

    Me too I have CBS and Local 15 – They did say 10:00 am – I had the shield for a while and now nothing

  144. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Syntara – CEO, Ponytail, etc… All nicknames the “in court lady” gave the jurors. Believe that Chrissie A made a photo lineup of the nicknames for us a week or so ago.

  145. 03/19/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Donchais mwah! luvs ya!

  146. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:04 pm

    didn’t finish the rest of the tweet……Media section is filling in slowly.

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    In courtroom now. Nurmi in tan suit with flashy blue shirt and tie. Wilmott in black suit. Juan in dark grey suit and red tie

  147. 03/19/2013 at 1:04 pm

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! Chrissie chrissie chrissie you have excelled yourself!!

  148. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:06 pm

    Syntara – Chrissie posted a picture of the jurors – see post 134 above. I put up the link but it is sitting in moderation.

  149. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:07 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Just saw this on the Twit LOL!

    Love it, love it, love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  150. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:07 pm

    Syntara :
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! Chrissie chrissie chrissie you have excelled yourself!!

    Thanks, it helps to have a visual 🙂

  151. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 1:08 pm

    We start at 10:30 now according to Wild About Trial

  152. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:16 pm

    As I’m sitting here getting impatient with the speed of the AZ court system I see this tweet. Kinda puts things in perspective!

    chris stark ‏@stark3923
    im not home. im still at cancer treatment. my driver forgot me? he is over 35 mins late….

  153. 03/19/2013 at 1:20 pm

    MMD Thank-you, I had missed that link… ok…

    wth Willy…. is that the real one omg it’s soooooooo him!

    Barb….. is that for real????

    Poquito… I aint gonna mess with him

    Trump Guy – Did he swallow the cheshire cat???

    CEO – is that Thomas Magnum PI?

  154. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 1:23 pm

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial

    Juan is pacing around the front of court as we wait for #JodiArias and the judge to enter. Valerie is giving instructions to the spectators

  155. 03/19/2013 at 1:23 pm

    Chrissie are you messing with me… these can’t be real surely! Fess up!

  156. 03/19/2013 at 1:24 pm

    shh need to find link… stop gawking at the jury photofit *slaps self*

  157. mary
    03/19/2013 at 1:25 pm

    Much has been made of JA killing Travis because she wasnt’ going on the Cancun trip. Does anybody remember when she called the investigator right after the body was found? She talked about a trip to the Oregon coast that had been cancelled by TA the end of May (coincides with theft of gun) and again in early June (gas cans, rental car). That is what sealed his fate….no longer would he even do the 1,000 places to see before you die ” with her. She knew for sure she had lost him.

  158. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 1:26 pm

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial

    Nurmi has taken his reclined position with knee on desk. He glances at Juan and then stares forward while waiting. #JodiArias

  159. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie are you messing with me… these can’t be real surely! Fess up!

    Our Lady in court gave an in depth description of the Jurors with her nicknames so I modeled the characters to fit that (Age Personality etc.)

  160. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:35 pm

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer
    Good morning
    The Arias trial begins today with the traditional opening sidebar.

  161. JesusFreak
    03/19/2013 at 1:36 pm

    donchais, do u sit with the ta group or the ja group, ie, where did u find a chair?

  162. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:36 pm

    Syntara :
    shh need to find link… stop gawking at the jury photofit *slaps self*

    I still had the descriptions in my notepad, here you go:

    From the wonderful lady who goes to court each day (she has become an honorary member of Travis’s family and sits behind them everyday)…her description of the jurors:
    1.Church Lady- Mid 50’s, short hair, no make-up, glasses.
    This lady looks absolutely disgusted the whole time. I never once saw her look in the direction of JA. Not ONCE. She either stares straight forward or looks at JM.
    2.Trump-Guy in 40’s, lots of hair, car salesman look.
    I called this guy “Comb Over” he had his head resting on his hand almost the whole time. He also never looks at JA. He seemed to be paying attention, but also seemed bored.
    3.Housewife-She is a big lady (tall and heavy set, not obese) with a very sweet face, no make-up.
    Interesting different view today. I called her the “Angry Neighbor Lady” Lol. I wrote that she follows along, but has a constant “sour puss”. I don’t know if it’s just “her look” or what, but she seemed to be frowning every time I looked at her.
    4.Grandpa-Bald, sweet faced older man that looks like my grandpa.
    He does have a sweet face and seems the “calm” type.
    5.Tricolor-Early 30’s, short, stylish haircut with three colors, reminds me of one of my hairstylists.
    She probably gave more facial expressions than any of the others. She is very engaged and took a fair amount of notes.
    6.Nancy-Lady in her 50’s, lovely face, reminds me of Nancy Reagan with glasses, short. She was the only one I saw look at Jodi when the jury first walked in. She took a lot of notes.
    7.Paul Rudd-Younger guy, mid-late 20’s with spiky hair, sweat jacket, looks like the actor Paul Rudd.
    8.The CEO-Good looking man, mid 50’s with goatee. Can see him being the jury foreman.
    9.Willy-Old hippy with long white ponytail, thin, small build.
    This guy looked PIZZED the whole time. He seemed to be staring towards the media lady or just into the corner. I only saw him look at JM or JA maybe once.
    10.Barb-Female, 40’s, has the “sexy librarian” look, wearing a form fitting sweater, slender build and voluptuous. I could tell she was taking notes quite a bit.
    11.Poquito-Little Mexican guy (maybe 5’3) with long graduated pony tail, lots of facial hair and piercings.
    12.Neil-Early 50’s high forehead, glasses, looks very nervous and turns red easily. seymor hoffman????
    13.The Wrestler-Younger good looking guy, large build.
    14.Old potsmoking CPA
    He swiveled in his chair a lot and fell asleep at least twice. He was also slouched down in his chair.
    15.Elderly Man-This man is definitely the oldest juror, he occasionally uses the headphones to listen to the proceedings that Jodie’s Auntie uses.
    16.Maureen-Red haired, glasses (the red might be too red to be a natural ginger) If I had to guess one Mormon on the jury, it would be her.
    She took a lot of notes and had a “polished” look to her. She had her whole body turned facing Jodi. I barely saw her look at JM.
    17.Pony Tail-Young girl, pony tail, plain, pony tail and sweats.
    She took a lot of notes.
    18.The Artist-Bald, attractive, glasses, 50’s-60’s, large build, holds his notebook on a binder as if he’s going to sketch. He looks around the gallery a lot. This guy also had a very intense gaze. He took some notes. He rubbed his face and tapped his fingers to his lips a lot.

  163. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:40 pm

    I actually feel sorry for Dr. Quack cause he is soooooooooo toast!

  164. 03/19/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Chrissie A LOL thank heavens… hahaha love it! Great Job!!
    ________________

    OMG… its getting worse for Dr Dodgy already!!!

    See how she sits there so non chalant and he is testifying to her wanting anal sex at 15? A normal person would feel shame… she just doesn’t have any. Its so freaky.

  165. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:44 pm

    MMD :
    I actually feel sorry for Dr. Quack cause he is soooooooooo toast!

    Me too a bit, but now he’s starting to go JA on Juan

  166. Ci Ci's Corner
    03/19/2013 at 1:44 pm

    Ayyyyyy…..we were in the middle of posting this morning and our power went out in the middle of it! It just came back on so here’s what we had to say:

    We loved how JM handed Mr. Quack his “set” and showed him the door yesterday!! Fantastic job! How could the defense put this fool on the stand and not look over the results of the tests themselves beforehand?!! They could have seen that her answers didn’t match her story!! What a bunch of idiots!

    We now call Dr. Quack old “no nuts” after yesterday’s grilling from JM! We’re sure the defense probably prepped him a little better for today, but he’s under ja’s (jackass’s) power of persuasion…..FOOL!!

  167. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:47 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie A LOL thank heavens… hahaha love it! Great Job!!
    ________________

    Thanks!

    OMG… its getting worse for Dr Dodgy already!!!
    See how she sits there so non chalant and he is testifying to her wanting anal sex at 15? A normal person would feel shame… she just doesn’t have any. Its so freaky.

    I think that is why this case is so fascinating, albeit sad

  168. mary
    03/19/2013 at 1:48 pm

    OMG, now he says not important if the subject of my exam lies to me. Sigh. Hope he has a second job…….Don’t think he could do “forensic exams” for free now!

  169. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:49 pm

    He hasn’t got a prayer. Hope he has the U-Haul packed!

  170. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:52 pm

    Another from my tweet bud:

    http://t.co/UjMciT1Q9T

  171. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:55 pm

    I wonder who taught who how to obfuscate testiphony??????????????? Kinda like the chicken and the egg……..

  172. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Another from my tweet bud:
    http://t.co/UjMciT1Q9T

    Love it and sooooooooooo true!!!

  173. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 1:57 pm

    MMD :
    I wonder who taught who how to obfuscate testiphony??????????????? Kinda like the chicken and the egg……..

    Yep! Another “gift” he gave her 🙂

  174. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Anyone know who this woman is that is talking with JA? She usually sits at the table behind Wurmi.

  175. 03/19/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Im feeling sorry for him too. Beware the psychopath they will ruin you. He has sooooo farked up. He looks like he might have been crying! Hope it doesnt drive him to suicide. JODI give him back the book he might need it!!!!

  176. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    I wonder who taught who how to obfuscate testiphony??????????????? Kinda like the chicken and the egg……..

    Yep! Another “gift” he gave her

    Another of many, by the sounds of things! 🙂

  177. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Syntara :
    Hope it doesnt drive him to suicide. JODI give him back the book he might need it!!!!

    Choked on my drink with that one! LOL

  178. 03/19/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Jodi taught him… its a natural ability for a psychopath she wouldn’t have had to learn it, it comes with the disorder. Thats what makes them so frustrating to deal with You can’t pin them down.

    He isnt one he does give straight answers eventually even when they hurt him. She’d never do that, not knowingly anyhow. Thats why Martinez handles her so well, its ver very hard to do with a psychopath. You have to confuse therm and be right in their face with the questions to keep them guessing.

  179. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:04 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    I brought a Vitamin Water XXX to keep me hydrated during the #JodiArias trial. Mmmm. Seems fitting no?

  180. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Hey guys, this Tweet from my friend You Will Need To Ask @YouWillNeed2Ask 3m
    OK Peeps #DetectiveFlores gave us a side job today. If you catch #jodiarias sneaking notes thru defense team to the back u r to report it!

  181. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Laine :
    Hey guys, this Tweet from my friend You Will Need To Ask @YouWillNeed2Ask 3m
    OK Peeps #DetectiveFlores gave us a side job today. If you catch #jodiarias sneaking notes thru defense team to the back u r to report it!

    Wow, in broad court and Det. Flores sitting there, she still thinks she is untouchable! Unbelievable!

  182. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Correction – in open court

  183. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:12 pm

    My God, you would think that after yesterday he would have had the entire report memorized, and the report indexed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, total incompetence imho

  184. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Laine :
    Hey guys, this Tweet from my friend You Will Need To Ask @YouWillNeed2Ask 3m
    OK Peeps #DetectiveFlores gave us a side job today. If you catch #jodiarias sneaking notes thru defense team to the back u r to report it!

    Thanks! just RT’d and have my screen snapper on the ready 🙂

  185. 03/19/2013 at 2:15 pm

    The idea of ..”know your subject matter” is a foreign concept to Dr Dodgy

  186. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Thanks Chrissie 🙂 Me too!!!!

  187. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 2:18 pm

    OMG JA and Wilmott match!

  188. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:19 pm

    And how many $$$ are being wasted as Willmott flips through the pages – just in case????

  189. 03/19/2013 at 2:20 pm

    I never see that stuff I’ll just stick to the behaviour analysis

  190. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Even Jodi looks disgusted with this expert. Oh here we go with the dueling shower photo/shaving instances. It was a different date. Not this again!

  191. kristin
    03/19/2013 at 2:21 pm

    My question is to donchais- IF (God willing it doesn’t) this trial ends in a hung jury, will you again cover a second trial with such detail? I thank you and all the commentors for covering yesterday in particular. Its soooooo hard to follow with all these side bars and delays!! I just wanna scream sometimes!!

  192. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Well boys and girls are we getting anywhere yet????????????? 😦

  193. 03/19/2013 at 2:23 pm

    JA and willmott have matched since day one.. except if necessary.. ie her on the stand, or when a friend of hers was testifying so she stood out more to that friend and they hopefully found it harder to testify against her. One exception the red, white and blue day.

    Jodie red, wilmott blue and wurmi white with blue tie.. I was wondering if it had been some day of significance over in the US so they used the colours for subliminal bonding or something weird like that.

  194. 03/19/2013 at 2:28 pm

    grabbed her sweater… rut roh thought he wasnt around when she climbed up on those flimsy shelves??? rut roh more inconsistencies but hang on the anal sex was the ONLY inconsistency just moments ago (excluding delays in testimony)

  195. 03/19/2013 at 2:30 pm

    oh hang on… this is getting foggy again

  196. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Syntara :
    JA and willmott have matched since day one.. except if necessary.. ie her on the stand, or when a friend of hers was testifying so she stood out more to that friend and they hopefully found it harder to testify against her. One exception the red, white and blue day.
    Jodie red, wilmott blue and wurmi white with blue tie.. I was wondering if it had been some day of significance over in the US so they used the colours for subliminal bonding or something weird like that.

    They were all dressed in green a few days ago, I think the 13th

  197. 03/19/2013 at 2:32 pm

    haha st patricks day??? rofl

  198. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Jodi’s whispering with that woman on the defense team looks awfully intimate! Looks like they’re about to start making out! WTF!

  199. 03/19/2013 at 2:36 pm

    if you have 10 copies why do you have a fax of it???? huh???? PTSD??? forgot he had the others??? I think Dr Dodgy is going to have PTSD after this at least he will have a better understanding for future interviews.

  200. 03/19/2013 at 2:37 pm

    oh he is over 50 so maybe Transient Global Amnesia???

  201. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Wow JA has just reignited my hatred for her with that frenzied whispering. Just like Casey! Man, she is so getting off on this! Does she think this case is going well for her? 🙂

  202. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:39 pm

    Syntara :
    if you have 10 copies why do you have a fax of it???? huh???? PTSD??? forgot he had the others??? I think Dr Dodgy is going to have PTSD after this at least he will have a better understanding for future interviews.

    I doubt if anyone looking for a credible psychologist will ever ask him to do another interview. He is sooooooooo done, cooked, put a fork in him professionally.

  203. 03/19/2013 at 2:41 pm

    Watching live stream –anyone notice the fashion????? socks Nurmi is wearing ?? Who dresses him?

  204. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 2:44 pm

    OMG! This guy is just so unbelievable. Again with the “I left it in my desk”???? WTH. Just wheel that friggin’ desk into court!!!

  205. 03/19/2013 at 2:45 pm

    Shes busy.. she’s making up all the lies to n ow cover Dr Dodgy’s butt. Yep yep I knew it… now its… the trauma from some nebulous event to cover the fact that he was lied to about the nature of the trauma .. oh so predictable but that doesn’t work Soooooorrrrry…. if the answers are flawed in anyway the whole test is rendered INVALID

  206. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:45 pm

    Tracey A :
    OMG! This guy is just so unbelievable. Again with the “I left it in my desk”???? WTH. Just wheel that friggin’ desk into court!!!

    OMG – love it Tracey!!!

  207. mary
    03/19/2013 at 2:45 pm

    Please Juan, let this guy go! JA has added another casualty to her path of destruction. She gets these people to feel bad for her and they die like flies. I know he shouldnt have tailored his testimony regardless, but it is just sad to see another person destroyed.

  208. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Vickee – Nice call on Nurmi’s socks. They’re as hideous as his suits and ties.

  209. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 2:46 pm

    If you watch Wurmi closely he is actually enjoying this back and forth. LOL Every once in a while you can see him smile as Dr. Quack gets flustered.

  210. 03/19/2013 at 2:49 pm

    OK now Im obsessed with glimpsing Wurmi’s socs!! Vickee you’re responsible

  211. 03/19/2013 at 2:51 pm

    Mary part of me agrees with you, but this is such flagrant and deliberate incompetency he should be held accountable. Seriously. Not to the point of him killing himself but certainly some kind of disciplinary action.

  212. 03/19/2013 at 2:55 pm

    ok Im starting to see the 6 4 relevance if it belongs in this number below 70

    hahaha see see my selective amnesia was just mentioned by Martinez… hahahahaha convenient memory!! luv him!!

  213. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Anyone else notice how Arias has lowered her seat to make her appear smaller?

  214. 03/19/2013 at 2:57 pm

    Just wheel that friggin’ desk into court!!!

    ROFL ZINGER!!

  215. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 2:59 pm

    Nurmi has bootie socks on today – I can see his leg – I need one of Donchais barf bags stat!!

  216. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 2:59 pm

    Wilmott looks worried!

  217. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Mama and Auntie thought something was really funny. So inappropriate!

  218. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 3:03 pm

    MMD :
    Mama and Auntie thought something was really funny. So inappropriate!

    Several times daily!!!

  219. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 3:04 pm

    Wow….they just took the noon break and Willmott is standing there with her arms crossed and chewing away at her lower lip!! Old No Nuts has hung them all out to dry….their fault…they didn’t check any of his documents out prior to going to court and took his evaluation at face value. Now her true score “69” is an indication there wasn’t anything wrong with her! Old No Nuts can’t explain why as he puts it, it’s irrelevant and left to interpretation. He’s also accusing JM of misinterpreting the test because he’s the one with the knowledge!! Wow….Old No Nuts got his chonies in wad that time!!

    Keep em coming JM…..that’s what the Defense gets for not doing their homework and wasting the court’s time and the taxpayer’s money!!

  220. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 3:05 pm

    MMD :
    Mama and Auntie thought something was really funny. So inappropriate!

    Distgusting! Ignorant and classless people

  221. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 3:06 pm

    mary :Please Juan, let this guy go! JA has added another casualty to her path of destruction. She gets these people to feel bad for her and they die like flies. I know he shouldnt have tailored his testimony regardless, but it is just sad to see another person destroyed.

    Don’t feel sad Mary…This man knew exactly what he was doing…and worse…took taxpayers money to do it…when you lay with the devil…..

  222. 03/19/2013 at 3:07 pm

    If there is a walking definition of incompetent… Dr Dodgy is it If he was on anyone elses witness lists they have all been busy putting a line through his name surely!

  223. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    Wow….Old No Nuts got his chonies in wad that time!!

    I would so love to be sitting with your group during this! You guys are awesome!!! 🙂

  224. 03/19/2013 at 3:10 pm

    could you get a more farcical witness???? I mean literally could you?

    • Laine
      03/19/2013 at 3:12 pm

      Put him and JA together you have a double act! You could sell popcorn, tootsie rolls…..

  225. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:11 pm

    Laine :

    mary :Please Juan, let this guy go! JA has added another casualty to her path of destruction. She gets these people to feel bad for her and they die like flies. I know he shouldnt have tailored his testimony regardless, but it is just sad to see another person destroyed.

    Don’t feel sad Mary…This man knew exactly what he was doing…and worse…took taxpayers money to do it…when you lay with the devil…..

    Plus he is still getting paid while he is in court, then the inevitable appeals, it’s going to go on forever! Can you say cash cow for Dr. Quack!

  226. 03/19/2013 at 3:11 pm

    Lots of body language going on today, JW,JA and Dr. Doozie. He is do done. Like watching JA argue with Martinez all over again. Dr. Doozie needs to unfold his fists. My father used to do that. Speaks loads of what is going on inside.

  227. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:12 pm

    Should we read any significance into the number that they keep haggling over is 69????

  228. Observer
    03/19/2013 at 3:18 pm

    Dr. Fraud is defrauding the taxpayers thousands of dollars for this BS. He is obviously totally incompetent. You can’t evaluate a pathological liar because they lie about anything.

    It’s interesting that Searcy, Samuels and Arias were all arrogant, narcissistic, antagonistic and combative on cross but all of the other witnesses were respectful and calm as they answered the questions

  229. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 3:18 pm

    MMD :
    Should we read any significance into the number that they keep haggling over is 69????

    I did already – lol!

  230. 03/19/2013 at 3:19 pm

    one thing though… can this be seen as incompetent defense? If so could it result in mistrial?

    From a logical stand point it shouldn’t be because the defense is only going off what he provided them and assuming he has done a proper job (well … yeah pk lets assume that) anyhow… they arent technically incompetent because IF what he testified to had been accurate then it certainly would have helped her. The fact it is wasn’t it was as valid as his memory graph scribble yesterday.

    So anyone in the legal realm know how this goes under Arizona law?

    Then again they had the same stuff as Martinez and if he can work out it’s a croc of poo, they should have. So where does it stand legally incompetent defense wise?

    Surely this reflects badly on those two attorneys sitting at the defense table? Careerwise thgis can’t be good surely. Or in America is this stuff fine for a lawyer to do?

  231. 03/19/2013 at 3:20 pm

    Syntara- trust me I think they are gaud awful ugly and then he puts on gray shoes. I was thinking high top tennies.

  232. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 3:23 pm

    MMD :

    Laine :

    mary :Please Juan, let this guy go! JA has added another casualty to her path of destruction. She gets these people to feel bad for her and they die like flies. I know he shouldnt have tailored his testimony regardless, but it is just sad to see another person destroyed.

    Don’t feel sad Mary…This man knew exactly what he was doing…and worse…took taxpayers money to do it…when you lay with the devil…..

    Plus he is still getting paid while he is in court, then the inevitable appeals, it’s going to go on forever! Can you say cash cow for Dr. Quack!

    That’s a tough way to earn a living, just when I feel sorry for him he comes back at Juan! But I just keep reminding myself what that evil excuse for a human did to Travis, plus he is trying to defend the actions of her savage ambush.

  233. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:24 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :
    Should we read any significance into the number that they keep haggling over is 69????

    I did already – lol!

    Great minds lol

  234. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 3:27 pm

    You all are on fire today. Your comments are cracking me up today!

    CiCi – I agree with MMD. I would luv to be sitting with your group as well!! The “chonies” line was a beaut!!! Luv it, luv it! LMAO!!

  235. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 3:28 pm

    Hey….Beth Karas….love the makeover! Much softer look for her….the makeup looks great! We like her better than Jean Cazarez. Beth’s analysis of the court proceedings are clear and precise without bias. Good job Beth!

  236. 03/19/2013 at 3:29 pm

    Should we read any significance into the number that they keep haggling over is 69????

    Incorrigible 😀

    Vickee I still haven’t seen em and I’ve been trying he’s had them behind his desk every time the camera has panned to him that I’ve caught so far. Too busy listening rather than watching.. but I’ll see em. He wears the cheapest suits I know that, poor guy shouldn’t pick on him I guess.

    The day Jodi was first on the stand I remember his tie. It was a very unfortunate choice. To me it almost seemed like an abstract depiction of a wall covered in blood that someone had tried to clean off. Fate? Bad choice or deliberate? One would surely not think the latter!

  237. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:32 pm

    So, does anyone know who the girl is that JA whispers with when defense is at sidebar and usually sits at table behind???????

    It’s driving me nuts!!! 😦

  238. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:34 pm

    Syntara :
    Should we read any significance into the number that they keep haggling over is 69????
    Incorrigible

    Stick with us Dr. Syn – we’ll take ya places. LOL 🙂

  239. 03/19/2013 at 3:34 pm

    Chrissie how do you do that with the multiple quotes.. as in #242

  240. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 3:36 pm

    Speaking of online shopping – UPS just dropped off a parcel. No idea what it is and just added it to the pile collecting by the front door. 😦

  241. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 3:38 pm

    Syntara :Chrissie how do you do that with the multiple quotes.. as in #242

    Syntara – She is picking up the quote with the quote already in it….so I put a comment – MMD picks it up as a quote and answers – Chrisseie picks up MMD’s quote with mine in it…does that make sense?

  242. 03/19/2013 at 3:40 pm

    Stick with us Dr. Syn – we’ll take ya places.

    Sounds ominous! 😉

  243. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 3:41 pm

    MMD :Speaking of online shopping – UPS just dropped off a parcel. No idea what it is and just added it to the pile collecting by the front door.

    Hahaha…Step away from the online shopping…..It’s making you foggy!!

  244. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 3:41 pm

    MMD – I believe that is Alyce LaViolette (sp) the Domestic Violence expert for the defense.

  245. 03/19/2013 at 3:43 pm

    So, does anyone know who the girl is that JA whispers with when defense is at sidebar and usually sits at table behind???????
    It’s driving me nuts!!!

    Is that the one that had the luminescent orange on one day? If so Ive been wanting to know about her since day 1. If not… who is that anyhow? That’s been driving me nuts.

  246. 03/19/2013 at 3:45 pm

    Laine yes it does. Thank you, I should have realised that. duh!

  247. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 3:46 pm

    Syntara – See my post #254. I think she’s the DV expert. She and Jodi have been chatting alot lately. My guess is that Jodi is changing her story yet again.

  248. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 3:50 pm

    Laine & Chrissie – OMG! Nurmi’s socks are putrid. He has no sense of style or color. His choices in socks, shirts & ties are consistently putrid looking. But the saving grace is that at least we don’t have to endure Nurmi’s boring monotone while he floats like a beached whale around the courtroom asking her about all the “horrific” things that Travis did to her!

  249. Grace
    03/19/2013 at 3:50 pm

    Just wanted to post this quickly. Here is the first link I found for MCMI-111 – read towards the end regarding scoring.

    I love Juan…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millon_Clinical_Multiaxial_Inventory

    The MMPI – The Minnesota Multiphasic Inventory asks 567 questions which are frequently repeated in order to ‘test’ the honesty, value system, moral conscience etc. of the person. So, if answer to the question “Do you like peanut butter?” and I respond “no”, there will be other questions asking the same question, but with a different twist: “Do you have milk when you eat Peanut Butter & Jelly?” Sorry, that’s the best I could come up with at the moment.
    Anyhow ~ back to the MMPI used with the primary “purpose of identifying, assessing, and diagnosing personality characteristics and psycho-pathological illness” socially determined pathology. It’s rarely ever used in the general population now unless there is a real good reason to administer it – the insurance companies have to be convinced first and the instrument is really expensive to give.

    Still love Juan….

    However, it is still given to individuals seeking employment in law enforcement.

  250. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 3:52 pm

    MMD & Syntara: Disregard my last on DV expert. I just looked her up online and the picture doesn’t match unless she’s lost weight and dyed her hair. My BAD!!! Sorry. Maybe someone else knows????

  251. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 3:53 pm

    Tracey A :
    You all are on fire today. Your comments are cracking me up today!
    CiCi – I agree with MMD. I would luv to be sitting with your group as well!! The “chonies” line was a beaut!!! Luv it, luv it! LMAO!!

    Yea…..you ought to see us as we debate back and forth as we try to read between the lines as JM is asking his questions…..then we pulled out a bottle of wine…..old hens on wine in the middle of the day…..good heavens! Talk about cackling hens!! But we keep each other grounded……oh….none of us are driving either…we live within walking distance so we’re not DUI…..hic’ hic’ (just kidding….we only sip the wine when we need to be calmed down watching this side shows!)

  252. 03/19/2013 at 3:54 pm

    Does anyone remember how far off the ground the ME said the shot to the head would have been… any idea of where she was in relation to him. Just working on the end of the group likely scenario and trying to work out when she shot him to fit with both forensics of shell placement and angle of entry/cheek lodgment. I know it was downwards and no stippling means how far minimum away?

    If no-one knows Ill go listen to the ME again so no worries on that.

  253. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 3:56 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie how do you do that with the multiple quotes.. as in #242

    Hit the quote button which will copy to the reply box keep the headers and edit the text accordingly

  254. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 3:57 pm

    Whoa…check this out:

    I agree there was a note slip during this transaction 👍👊 that is #justiceleaguMaterial in #jodiarias trial RT pic.twitter.com/2nt4JFZfgF

  255. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 3:59 pm

    Sorry missed the Link! trying again….

    pic.twitter.com/2nt4JFZfgF

  256. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 4:00 pm

    CiCi – Oh Boy! If you ladies took a nip every time JA said “I don’t remember” you all would be schnockered!!! LOL

  257. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 4:00 pm

    Syntara :

    *Quote highlighted in blue on the text box you are replying to, not a button per say 🙂

  258. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 4:04 pm

    Laine :
    Sorry missed the Link! trying again….
    pic.twitter.com/2nt4JFZfgF

    This happened to me earlier with a short url from the Twit – Works with copy & paste fine tho!

    There is something going on there! Where is the dayam Bailiff, isn’t she supposed to be being watched?

  259. 03/19/2013 at 4:04 pm

    Thanks Grace

    Abbreviation Description
    1 ………………Schizoid
    2A ………………Avoidant
    2B …………….Depressive
    3 …………….Dependent
    4 ……………..Histrionic
    5 ……………..Narcissistic
    6A …………..Antisocial (Aggressive)
    7 ……………..Compulsive
    8A ………..Negativistic (Passive-Aggressive)
    8B ………..Masochistic (Self-Defeating)
    S ……………Schizotypal
    C ………………Borderline
    P ………………..Paranoid

    Now THERE’s a relevant test!! So this is the one he said was not relevant? I forget now what he answered – but whatever it was I remember Juan’s reaction was almost astonishment. I need to go back and listen now I know what it’s referring to. Thanks heaps for that!

    PS you can’t love Juan cos he’s mine mine MINE I say!!

  260. 03/19/2013 at 4:07 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Syntara :
    *Quote highlighted in blue on the text box you are replying to, not a button per say <img src="http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?m=1129645325g&quot; alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" scale="

  261. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 4:08 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Laine :Sorry missed the Link! trying again….pic.twitter.com/2nt4JFZfgF

    This happened to me earlier with a short url from the Twit – Works with copy & paste fine tho!
    There is something going on there! Where is the dayam Bailiff, isn’t she supposed to be being watched?

    Hey Chrissie It will let me copy the pic…I’ve even cropped it but it won’t let me paste for some reason! Dammit! I agree something definately going on there!!!

  262. 03/19/2013 at 4:12 pm

    oops Chrissie I did one with a smiley face and its gone to moderation! darn didn’t mean to give extra work to Donchais! But I see how it works now, ta.

  263. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 4:17 pm

    MMD :
    So, does anyone know who the girl is that JA whispers with when defense is at sidebar and usually sits at table behind???????
    It’s driving me nuts!!!

    Definitely defense related. Legal aid or assisting attorney. Probably a legal aid.

    Not Alyce Laviolette. You can see her picture here on her website.

    http://www.alycelaviolette.com/

    • donchais
      03/19/2013 at 4:20 pm

      She is the mitigation specialist!

  264. Observer
    03/19/2013 at 4:18 pm

    Syntara :one thing though… can this be seen as incompetent defense? If so could it result in mistrial?
    /P>

    No. Defense experts are paid to come up with data to fit the defense scenario and prosecution witnesses are paid to provide data to support the state’s theory. The legal analysts call it garbage in and garbage out. The only way the defense could be declared incompetent is if did not mount any defense at all and made no objections to the prosecution’s questions at all.

    Both defense attorneys are questioning witnesses and experts, making objections and mounting a vigorous defense, so they are not incompetent. Judge Stevens is seeing to it that the defendant gets a fair trial so the verdict will not be overturned by a higher court.

    Dr. Samuels is qualified by the state as a defense witness. It is the prosecutor’s job to prove the defense’s witnesses wrong and the defense attorney’s job to prove the state’s witnesses wrong.

    In the USA, defendants assist in their own defense and the client is the boss. A few years ago, Jodi Arias fired her attorneys and acted as her own attorney until she got in over her head and asked for the attorneys back. She came up with the self defense and pedophile/abuse nonsense when she was acting as her own attorney. The attorneys are stuck with it. She has been declared indigent so all attorneys and experts are paid by the taxpayers.

  265. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 4:24 pm

    donchais :
    She is the mitigation specialist!

    Thanks!

  266. Observer
    03/19/2013 at 4:24 pm

    Dr. Samuels has a Phd. and is qualified by the state as an expert witness.

  267. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 4:26 pm

    Just saw this…. STRANGE!

  268. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 4:27 pm

    Laine :

    Chrissie A :

    Laine :Sorry missed the Link! trying again….pic.twitter.com/2nt4JFZfgF

    This happened to me earlier with a short url from the Twit – Works with copy & paste fine tho!
    There is something going on there! Where is the dayam Bailiff, isn’t she supposed to be being watched?

    Hey Chrissie It will let me copy the pic…I’ve even cropped it but it won’t let me paste for some reason! Dammit! I agree something definately going on there!!!

    Let’s see if this works:

  269. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 4:33 pm

    Nienna :Just saw this…. STRANGE!

    Putting things in her butt….not so strange!! lol I wonder if she is trying to hide the notes shes been writing to hand out!!

  270. CL
    03/19/2013 at 4:33 pm

    New “Cheer” for trial watchers while Defense is “on direct” ….: ” BRING ON JUAN, BRING ON JUAN!!!!” 🙂

  271. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 4:34 pm

    Syntara :
    So, does anyone know who the girl is that JA whispers with when defense is at sidebar and usually sits at table behind???????
    It’s driving me nuts!!!

    Is that the one that had the luminescent orange on one day? If so Ive been wanting to know about her since day 1. If not… who is that anyhow? That’s been driving me nuts.

    We asked the same question the day she was wearing the orange jacket….we asked if it came with batteries!…..donchais answered and said she was a defense assistant..or something like that. We went back to the last posting date before today because her answer is there somewhere at the start of the day. We’ll see if we can find it.

  272. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 4:35 pm

    Whoa! Nienna That it is strange!!

  273. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 4:37 pm

    donchais :
    She is the mitigation specialist!

    Thank you. It was driving me nuts!

  274. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 4:37 pm

    Laine :

    Nienna :Just saw this…. STRANGE!
    Putting things in her butt….not so strange!! lol I wonder if she is trying to hide the notes shes been writing to hand out!!

    LMAO Laine Your comment is awesome!

  275. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 4:38 pm

    Laine :

    Nienna :Just saw this…. STRANGE!
    Putting things in her butt….not so strange!! lol I wonder if she is trying to hide the notes shes been writing to hand out!!

    ROFLMAO!!!! Possibly!

  276. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 4:39 pm

    Laine – You can see loose paper underneath the folder…

  277. 03/19/2013 at 4:41 pm

    wth he compares it to the stat with already diagnosed person? Whaaat Dr Doolittle is doing my head in!!! FOG!!!!!

  278. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 4:43 pm

    I wonder if his drawing will be available as a print? lol

  279. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Chrissie A :
    I wonder if his drawing will be available as a print? lol

    Oh you’re really on a roll today, aren’t ya! 🙂

  280. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 4:47 pm

    I am really going to have to see my shrink SOON just so I can figure out WTF Dr. Quack is talking about! LOL 🙂

  281. 03/19/2013 at 4:48 pm

    I think its going into his next PhD Chrissie A

  282. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 4:53 pm

    Observer :
    Dr. Samuels has a Phd. and is qualified by the state as an expert witness.

    I would bet not so much after this trial!

  283. 03/19/2013 at 4:53 pm

    This is ground breaking stuff it HAS to be PhD material! so the scribble HAS to go in! He is quite obviously the leading expert in his field on this because he knows what is remembered when and how the brain. We are witnessing history being made here!

    Oh my god… he now admittance the total irrelevance of TGA????? He made me nearly go into meltdown knowing it was irrelevant. NONONO Down the rabbit hole again looking for the mad hatter!!

  284. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 4:54 pm

    Nienna :
    Just saw this…. STRANGE!

    WHOA……does anyone send this to the court….this looks awfully suspicious! How can this get to the Prosecution?? Somebody needs to know about this!! She needs to get busted!!!

  285. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 4:55 pm

    That eyeroll from JA looked pretty assertive! LOL

  286. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 4:57 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :

    Nienna :
    Just saw this…. STRANGE!
    WHOA……does anyone send this to the court….this looks awfully suspicious! How can this get to the Prosecution?? Somebody needs to know about this!! She needs to get busted!!!

    The media has it… It was posted on Twitter by Wild About Trial. I’m sure it will get to where it needs to be. Or at least hope.

  287. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 4:59 pm

    LOL!

  288. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 5:01 pm

    Wow, just got goose bumps from seeing his siblings smile – that JM got the truth out!!

  289. 03/19/2013 at 5:01 pm

    Yep and this is another PhD in the making! The stuff to do with the Mr Squiggle graph
    ________________

    She’s not assertive??? Yet she spars with Martinez in front of our eyes and refuses to answer questions even in court. sniggers when she makes a good point and smirks when she feels self satisfaction. Non assertive??? what is???

  290. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 5:02 pm

    donchais :
    She is the mitigation specialist!

    You totally crack me up! Best laugh I’ve had in a week.

  291. 03/19/2013 at 5:05 pm

    oh Dr Robert Hare or Dr George Simon would rip this guy to bits!!

    Oh no he’s looking for notes…noooooo another recess cos he didnt bring the desk!!!

  292. 03/19/2013 at 5:06 pm

    Phew the judge sorted him!

    nooooooo he’s back to the note fnding! bets against him not finding em?

  293. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Nienna :
    Just saw this…. STRANGE!

    She is up to no good and in full view of her attorneys and mitigation specialist. Talk about cajones!

  294. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:10 pm

    Chrissie A :
    LOL!
    http://instagram.com/p/XDaLIhow6h/

    Keep em comin darlin’ – as I howl! I wonder if Dr. Quack has a test to explain why…..?

  295. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 5:12 pm

    MMD :

    Nienna :
    Just saw this…. STRANGE!

    She is up to no good and in full view of her attorneys and mitigation specialist. Talk about cajones!

    Isn’t she supposed to be escorted and an officer/sheriff watch over her?

  296. 03/19/2013 at 5:13 pm

    Nienna re: strange .wtf is with that????? as CCC said prosecution needs to see it… hopefully it will be all over the net and media very very quickly…. did you upload it or find it?

    …. and she’s not assertive? conniving, devious manipulative doesn’t mean assertive?

    She did that in open court thinking no-one would see. That’s not assertive??? There is no end to this woman’s audacity or stupidity!

  297. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 5:14 pm

    OMG! No dates on his documentation of visits with JA???? Unbelievable!!!

  298. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:15 pm

    I think Nurmi must’ve read our comments about his socks….he seems to be keeping them concealed at this point. LOL

  299. Nienna
    03/19/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Syntara :
    Nienna re: strange .wtf is with that????? as CCC said prosecution needs to see it… hopefully it will be all over the net and media very very quickly…. did you upload it or find it?

    Didn’t find it or upload it. Saw it on Wild About Trial. HLN will probably go wild about it tonight!

  300. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:18 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    I can’t imagine what the good Doctors desk at home looks like if most of the pertinent info he needs is housed there. #JodiArias

  301. 03/19/2013 at 5:19 pm

    LOL Tracey!!

  302. 03/19/2013 at 5:20 pm

    “In my report there was an error” WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!

  303. 03/19/2013 at 5:21 pm

    Grace- my father used to ask the same question 5 times different way if I had done something wrong. He was a detective/narc @ I learned young better to tell the truth right off the bat. Now I understand where he learned that.

  304. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:21 pm

    MMD – Dr. Fog’s desk needs to be admitted as evidence. Then he can readily access this crap info instead of wasting everybody’s time!

  305. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 5:23 pm

    Wow….another exhibit not provided to the State! Sidebar….again!!! Looks like Dr. No Nuts did another addendum to his report in 12/12 but the State was not given a copy!

    SO WRONG!!!

  306. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 5:24 pm

    Tracey A :
    I think Nurmi must’ve read our comments about his socks….he seems to be keeping them concealed at this point. LOL

    He he he…….big SISSY!

  307. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 5:25 pm

    I mean really????? Are we expected to take him at all seriously? He is at worse incompetent and at best sloppy!! NO DATES…NO RECORDINGs…NOTHING TO SUBSTANTIATE AN ASSESSMENT OF JA WAS EVER DONE OTHER THAN SOME TEST THAT WERE DIAGNOSED AS LIES!!!! Someone needs to be looking very closely both at his practice and the defenses association with it… He will be lucky to walk away EVER working again!!!

  308. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:27 pm

    I wonder, since JA still thinks she is going to get off, if she is madly scribbling her own book about this trial????? cause nothing she does would surprise me!

  309. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 5:28 pm

    Vickee :
    Grace- my father used to ask the same question 5 times different way if I had done something wrong. He was a detective/narc @ I learned young better to tell the truth right off the bat. Now I understand where he learned that.

    Me…..Cici….always told my sons….”if I’m asking you a question, it’s because I already know the answer!” This way they knew not to start out by lying!! Sometimes I’d fake them out using that statement just to make them think I already knew when sometimes I really didn’t. Worked every time!!!

  310. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:30 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Dr. Fog’s desk needs to be admitted as evidence. Then he can readily access this crap info instead of wasting everybody’s time!

    Gawd, then we would be here until summer waiting for him to find things! LOL 🙂

  311. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:31 pm

    These sidebars are killing me!!! Yawn!!!!!

  312. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:32 pm

    LOL MMD!

  313. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:36 pm

    He is getting paid $25.00/hr more than Wurmi! Too funny!

  314. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:36 pm

    OMG! Dr. Fog gets $250/hr. WTH!!!!!

  315. 03/19/2013 at 5:37 pm

    lol he missed it??? he missed it????? Im sorry but I cant stand it anymore … JM

    That does not fit the criteria for PTSD does it.

    No

    I’m finished!

    HAHA he had had enough too. Oh that man is soooooo on my wavelength!!

  316. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:37 pm

    OK now the snooze fest begins again – yawn

  317. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:38 pm

    Whoa! Juan has no more questions???? Here comes the snooze fest with Wilmott!

  318. 03/19/2013 at 5:40 pm

    But he has just admitted the PTSD diagnosis is wrong so what is this about??? From here It’s meaningless even by his own admission!!

  319. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:41 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    http://wildabouttrial.com/man-accused-in-body-parts-death-collapses-in-court/ … Man accused in body parts death collapses in court. #CanadianCannibal #CriminalJustice #News #Law #Trial #court

    Just so everyone living in the U.S. realizes that we also have our loons (no offence to the bird) here as well and this guy is an unbelievable one! What he did makes JA look almost sane!

  320. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:44 pm

    I am such a pack rat that I wish I could get paid to search for papers! 🙂

  321. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:48 pm

    Oh Lord, can you imagine the damage he has inflicted in over 30 years of work!!!! Truly scary 😦

  322. 03/19/2013 at 5:49 pm

    What a load of crap! So this guy whored himself for $250 an hour, made a fool of himself, undermined his life’s work and sold his soul to the devil. That’s disgusting. Sympathy meter is now firmly stuck on zero!

  323. WhereIsSHE
    03/19/2013 at 5:50 pm

    JUAN:(!!!
    WHY oh WHY did you not KILL this guy on the fact that he keeps claiming that Jodi MADE UP THE INTRUDER STORY FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL REASONS, i.e. TO PROTECT HERSELF FROM THE TRAUMA???!
    This is 100% at odds with what JODI said was the reason for making up the intruder story!!!
    ARGHHHHHHH

    Jodi said–on the stand, UNDER OATH, that she made up the intruder story “to PROTECT TRAVIS/HIS REPUTATION… AND!… to PROTECT HERSELF, BECAUSE she was “ASHAMED”– and NOT because the experience was too psychologically painful or stressful!

    JM– PLEASE nail this guy on this discrepancy if you get a chance to re-cross, because the jury heard Jodi say this numerous times, and it is completely at odds with what her “expert” is saying was the REASON for the Ninja story.

  324. olga
    03/19/2013 at 5:51 pm

    Let Juan Martinez know that this foolish psychologist diagnosed PTSD at a time when Jodi was in jail and facing capital murder. THAT situation would cause PTSD on most people.

  325. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 5:52 pm

    Syntara :
    What a load of crap! So this guy whored himself for $250 an hour, made a fool of himself, undermined his life’s work and sold his soul to the devil. That’s disgusting. Sympathy meter is now firmly stuck on zero!

    Obviously this is also helps explain why he was run out of New Jersey!

  326. 03/19/2013 at 5:54 pm

    wtf was that look.. a distinct nod to him from JA anyone else see that???

  327. Kimmy
    03/19/2013 at 5:54 pm

    Okay I have lurked long enough and have to get in on the action! I’m wondering what Jodi is writing so fast while JM is on cross with Bozo…..I hate Juan Matinez, I hate Juan Martinez, I hate Juan Matinez, Let me stab Juan Martinez, Let me stab Juan Martinez. Is any body else getting that vibe? Also HLN is saying JM is wasting too much time on Bozo….well didn’t Jodi drag TA through the mud with only her perception during direct? Well honey JM is going to drag your witnesses through the mud too biatch! Back at you babe! Love this site!

  328. 03/19/2013 at 5:56 pm

    JM makes me feel sane. Dr Doolittle and Willmott make me feel I’m in the twilight zone. I mean really feel like it. It’s extremely disconcerting.

  329. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:56 pm

    Has Wilmott made any points??? I just can’t listen to Miss Perky anymore. Does anyone have a barf bag handy????

  330. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 5:58 pm

    Sidebar after sidebar after sidebar after…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  331. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 6:00 pm

    Since this so called specialist got his BA in 1965, he would be approx. 69 yrs old. He should have packed it in at 55. just sayin……………………………….

  332. 03/19/2013 at 6:01 pm

    Observer Thank you very much re your explanation on defense incompetence legalities. Very helpful.

  333. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 6:02 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    I wish Nurmi would teach Willmott the chicken wing move. She has no moves to watch for. #JodiArias

    At least it would liven things up a bit if she had some moves LOL

  334. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:02 pm

    Give me a sec Syntara…I’m recapping on HLN. Will look for it, but I think Dr. Fog just blinks alot. I thought I saw him wink earlier and rewinded. He just seems to blink alot. But give me a sec to catch up.

  335. WhereIsSHE
    03/19/2013 at 6:04 pm

    Donchais-
    Can you ask the person who is attending court if any basis exists, as far as can be told, for Jodi smiling toward the jury (or allegedly toward one particular juror)today, and perhaps even yesterday?? Can she tell if one of the jurors is “connecting” with Jodi, as other have posted in online blogs?? I can’t tell if these people are just noticing Jodi’s expression or whether they can see the jurors as well.

  336. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:07 pm

    I do notice that the file folder JA tucked in her butt seems to be back on the defense table. EEEwwwwwww!

  337. 03/19/2013 at 6:13 pm

    WhereIsShe I think he could have gone on with a lot but I think he’d had enough.

    He got him to admit his whole testimony was wrong or irrelevant let’s break it down..

    He got him to admit the entries in the diary were explained in a totally different way than he had lead the jury to believe in his previous testimony.

    He admitted the Transient Global Amnesia was irrelevant testimony to the case.

    Then to the question of “This does not meet the criteria of PTSD does it?”

    He elicited a clear admission

    “No”

    His whole testimony is immediately marked irrelevant and shredded.

    “I am finished” ie nothing more needs said.

  338. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 6:14 pm

    Where is SHE – I know it was said earlier in the trial when JA was testiphoning that apparently she and the juror with the tri-coloured hair seemed to have a connection and have made eye contact. As for now, haven’t heard anything.

  339. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:17 pm

    Sorry Syntara I must’ve missed it. Didn’t see anything.

  340. 03/19/2013 at 6:21 pm

    I do notice that the file folder JA tucked in her butt seems to be back on the defense table. EEEwwwwwww!

    I thought it was a writing pad she slid under her. There’s a reason she did what she did because she does it so sneakily. She does not move a muscle even her face and posture remains the same she this is the type of person she is. Very very devious.

    Im wondering if shes got some kind of trick so as when she pulls it out she rips off the page she wants. Who knows what she’s capable of… all I know is it was an extremely underhanded and sneaky manoeuvre and it was done for a reason.

  341. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 6:22 pm

    Ugh…

    Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 6m
    Just a heads up-the #JodiArias trial doesn’t start until 1pm Arizona time tomorrow and there is no court Thursday.

  342. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 6:23 pm

    Hey donchais just spotted this on Twitter…are you able to confirm?

    FYI-the #JodiArias trial doesn’t start until 1PM Arizona time tomorrow and there is no court Thursday.

  343. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:23 pm

    Oh Gawd!!! Back to the scribble again! Puhleese!!!!!

  344. Anna Eaton
    03/19/2013 at 6:25 pm

    Grace,

    Grace :
    It’s rarely ever used in the general population now unless there is a real good reason to administer it –

    I was wondering if there’s a modern-day version of this type of test that can be used – like a list of questions Dr. Toast could ask ja, including tons of trip-up questions? It seems to me she’d be pretty easy to discombobulate. What do you think?

  345. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 6:25 pm

    Chrissie A :Ugh…
    Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 6mJust a heads up-the #JodiArias trial doesn’t start until 1pm Arizona time tomorrow and there is no court Thursday.

    Haha sorry Chrissie I didn’t see you had added it also!

  346. 03/19/2013 at 6:26 pm

    what is HNL? or is it HLN? whatever everyone keeps referencing.

  347. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:28 pm

    Syntara Just watched that video clip again. I think you are correct. Just a note pad but still done very sneaky. She never moves her eyes and does it in one fluid motion. She’s obviously honed her skills while incarcerated.

  348. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:31 pm

    Syntara HLN stands for Headline News here in the US. For me, it’s a satellite station that broadcasts the entire trial albeit, with many commercial breaks. See if you can view their website at hlntv.com They have many recaps and summations.

  349. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 6:33 pm

    Laine :

    Chrissie A :Ugh…
    Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 6mJust a heads up-the #JodiArias trial doesn’t start until 1pm Arizona time tomorrow and there is no court Thursday.

    Haha sorry Chrissie I didn’t see you had added it also!

    Lol! We are all multi tasking as long as it gets the word out 🙂

  350. 03/19/2013 at 6:33 pm

    Thanks Tracey 🙂 Been wondering about it for a while now.

  351. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 6:37 pm

    Syntara :
    I do notice that the file folder JA tucked in her butt seems to be back on the defense table. EEEwwwwwww!
    I thought it was a writing pad she slid under her. There’s a reason she did what she did because she does it so sneakily. She does not move a muscle even her face and posture remains the same she this is the type of person she is. Very very devious.
    Im wondering if shes got some kind of trick so as when she pulls it out she rips off the page she wants. Who knows what she’s capable of… all I know is it was an extremely underhanded and sneaky manoeuvre and it was done for a reason.

    We’re thinking she may be sticking a note somewhere under the table and maybe has someone picking it up after court to get it out to it’s intended recipient! it’s been done before!! Jailhouse trick!!

  352. Lisa M
    03/19/2013 at 6:39 pm

    Hearing this guy talk about Jodi’s lies as if they reflect reality is so enraging. I can’t believe this talk about “Travis’ attack” is allowed. They should have to say “Travis’ alleged attack”. It’s just not right. I know I’m preaching to the choir but it just still kills me that this “attack” is spoken of as if its real.

  353. 03/19/2013 at 6:40 pm

    I try to listen to this defense stuff between Dr DoLittle and Perky but all I hear is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

  354. Anna Eaton
    03/19/2013 at 6:41 pm

    Anna Eaton :
    Grace,

    Grace :
    It’s rarely ever used in the general population now unless there is a real good reason to administer it –
    I was wondering if there’s a modern-day version of this type of test that can be used – like a list of questions Dr. Toast could ask ja, including tons of trip-up questions? It seems to me she’d be pretty easy to discombobulate. What do you think?

    Well, heck, I’m sorry but I didn’t do this right before…so I’m using the whole quote this time. I keep messing up with the >< thingies!
    My part is this: I was wondering if there’s a modern-day version of this type of test that can be used – like a list of questions Dr. Toast could ask ja, including tons of trip-up questions? It seems to me she’d be pretty easy to discombobulate. What do you think?

  355. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:42 pm

    CiCi I think you are completely correct. A jailhouse trick which she tried to do with the encoded messages with the magazines. Good call!

  356. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 6:46 pm

    Laine :

    Laine did yo catch this? I didn’t – maybe because WiiNot is up 🙂

    You Will Need To Ask ‏@YouWillNeed2Ask 1m
    #jodiarias just slipped the ORANGE folder off her table and peeked at it under he table RT if you just saw that happen it’s missing now

  357. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 6:46 pm

    Syntara I hear the same thing except it’s like the teacher in the “Peanuts” comic strip. Whah whah whah whah! That’s what Miss Perky does to me.

  358. Laine
    03/19/2013 at 6:48 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Laine :

    Laine did yo catch this? I didn’t – maybe because WiiNot is up
    You Will Need To Ask ‏@YouWillNeed2Ask 1m#jodiarias just slipped the ORANGE folder off her table and peeked at it under he table RT if you just saw that happen it’s missing now

    No I missed it! I saw the tweet but missed the action!

  359. 03/19/2013 at 6:53 pm

    Tracey A She’s obviously honed her skills while incarcerated.

    Believe me she would have been doing stuff like that all her life. It’s the nature of the beast. It’s what makes these people so creepy once you see through them. It’s also why they work so hard to hide their true nature. They know they’d be shunned if their true nature was revealed.

    They don’t feel shame as such but they do hate to be outed. It’s a difficult delineation but a significant one.

    She is going to hate to find out her sneaky move is all over the net and media but she will not feel embarrassment or shame as we do, just anger.

  360. Gateway
    03/19/2013 at 6:56 pm

    Well, I can’t stand it lurking any longer and have to join this great group and get my tin foil hat with antennas ordered! Like many of you, I’am repulsed at the sight of the despicable wurmi.
    Why can’t they do us a favor and totally blur him like they do when showing something gross or obscene? I’ve had to get the eye bleach several times as my eyes are totally pissed at me for making them see him. As for his court room attire, nothing would help.His taste isn’t even in his mouth. He is a total slug, and everyone knows you can’t polish a turd! Just sayin…….
    Yesterday, trolling the internet during the long lull, I found an interesting thing about ja. She
    arrives by bus to court each day wearing her jail stripes and changes into the civilian clothes.
    She wears a “Belly Band” around her stomach underneath her clothes. It was explained that there is a sheriff or deputy to ZAP her with it if she should get out of hand or go BERZERK.
    I sooooo want that to happen or have the Alexander family holding the zapper!! One more
    item, go to YOU TUBE and put in KAUAISKEPTIC”S CHANEL to see the JUAN MARTINEZ
    DANCE. It is beyond funny!! Thanks for letting me vent. I have become obsessed with this and my place looks like I will be one the next episode of HOARDER’S. Can’t wait till this is over.

  361. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 6:59 pm

    Syntara :
    what is HNL? or is it HLN? whatever everyone keeps referencing.

    If you get CNN in Australia, there is a good chance that you might get HLN as well. It is a sister network I know that you can watch the it online because Chrissie and I were on their live chat last weekend and we were talking to someone from Italy.

    Here is the link http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/

  362. 03/19/2013 at 7:01 pm

    CICi Circle… you are onto something there.. hows she getting it from under her butt to the hiding spot? It’ll be with the other hand I guess she so often has her hand/s down you cant see what they are doing.
    ________

    Dr Dolittle is such an idiot he has no idea about JA… not a clue what he is dealing with. It’s pathetic. He’s an embarrassment to himself.

  363. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 7:02 pm

    Syntara :
    I try to listen to this defense stuff between Dr DoLittle and Perky but all I hear is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    I know – I’m hitting the chocolate 🙂

  364. Grace
    03/19/2013 at 7:04 pm

    Hi Anna, I think there is a smaller version of the MMPI. I’m really curious to know what instruments Juan’s (yes Syntara, I am on a first name basis with him) expert used.

    Since we know he doesn’t tape record, I’m wondering if he wrote notes DURING the sessions – he keeps saying “to the best of my recollection” just like JA – “to the best of my memory”. By the look of his “notes”, not to mention his filing style, it doesn’t look like he took any session notes in real time. Was he concerned that if he took notes, it would scar poor JA’s self-esteem issue?

    Do you think Juan is single?

    As a “memory (or lack thereof) expert”, he would know that waiting until later to write up his notes, his memory would be limited and he would need to rely on the PERCEPTION of his notes AND his memory of the sessions. JA has the ability to use her sensually sweet voice to hypnotize her audience…similar to the Sirens found in Greek mythology. “The Sirens were dangerous and beautiful creatures, portrayed as femmes fatales who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island.”

    I bet Juan’s been married a couple times.

    Actually, taking notes would have distracted him away from the Demon. Instead, he was lulled to sleep and forgot the subtle nuances that are at the epicenter of conducting a legal/forensic assessment. I have done many assessments etc. on individuals who were evil although nowhere near as evil as JA, and I knew I had to pay attention to EVERYTHING and not let my guard down for one minute. This may sound weird, but here are some of the questions I would focus on (helped me from not peeing in my pants … lol) What is the client doing right now? What does the client want me to feel right now? How do I feel in the presence of this client? And with someone like JA, I would pray to the Gods not to crash into the rocks.

  365. PK
    03/19/2013 at 7:06 pm

    Dr. Quack immediately diagnosed low self esteem issues with Jodi Arias, the sociopath. And he has a doctorate in psychology?

  366. 03/19/2013 at 7:08 pm

    donchais :
    She is the mitigation specialist!

    You totally crack me up! Best laugh I’ve had in a week.

    Shows how much I know I thought that was a serious answer.

  367. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 7:09 pm

    Syntara I completely agree with you! I have a sister that I haven’t spoken to in almost 10 years now. She is a mirror image of JA. Pathological liar, narcissistic, sociopath, etc. ‘Cept, she’s never killed any one to my knowledge. Would she be capable to cover her tracks? Absolutely!!! My mother is following this trial as well. We both see the resemblance to our sister/daughter. My sister exhibited all JA’s signs at a very young age. She was manipulative and lying when there was no reason to lie when she was very young. The similarities here are spooky.

    Your analogy completely resembles my sister. Very scary! And that is very hard to admit in my family.

  368. 03/19/2013 at 7:11 pm

    Notice she reads her writings with her glasses on sitting at defense table but on the stand she took her glasses off to read. What’s up. Also saw her put something in her mouth and take a drink of water. Self medicating ?!!!!!!

  369. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 7:19 pm

    Syntara My sister had my family completely baffled. It was after I caught her in lie after lie and proved it to my family that they finally had a clue. No one would believe that she would go to these great lengths to lie about nothing. She had an answer for every thing and would recreate her “stories” to tailor the truth. Just like JA. Maybe that’s why this case hits close to home.

  370. PC
    03/19/2013 at 7:22 pm

    Laine :
    Put him and JA together you have a double act! You could sell popcorn, tootsie rolls…..

    ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING

  371. PC
    03/19/2013 at 7:30 pm

    Does anyone notice how JA is shrinking???

  372. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 7:32 pm

    Syntara :
    donchais :
    She is the mitigation specialist!

    You totally crack me up! Best laugh I’ve had in a week.
    Shows how much I know I thought that was a serious answer.

    The original was a serious answer unless other comments were added in the interim 🙂

  373. 03/19/2013 at 7:33 pm

    Grace Grace

    “was he concerned if he took notes, would scar poor JA’s self-esteem issue?”

    HAHAHAHA!!!!

    Love the siren analogy it’s dead on.. pied piper is male equivalent mythology is so often based on reality

    For a memory expert he doesn’t seem to have much of his own. He has to reference his notes for things that to him should be mundane and automatic.

    ______________________

    Is he actually saying because her story changed, to him that meant she was telling the truth??? Riiiiiiiight! yep yep yep suuuuuuure nice one!!

    He called her names so she stabbed him 27 times, slit his throat and shot him? OK right there is a red flag. Slight over reaction wouldn’t you say??

  374. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 7:35 pm

    Oh Gawd! Miss Perky is driving me crazy now. Her whole demeanor just seems inappropriate. I get that she’s trying to assuage her “expert” but it just seems so phoney baloney. Now we have to wait till 1pm tomorrow for court to start? Where do I get a job in this court system????

  375. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 7:41 pm

    Chrissie A Do you have any more info on Beth Karas being laid off after this trial? She is my favorite!! I think HLN has way more choices before Beth. She is accurate, to the point, and unbiased imho. Just wondering…

  376. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 7:41 pm

    Syntara :
    CICi Circle… you are onto something there.. hows she getting it from under her butt to the hiding spot? It’ll be with the other hand I guess she so often has her hand/s down you cant see what they are doing.
    ________

    Well one of our ol hens has a son who did some time in his youth so she called him to ask about this maneuver. He said that that sometimes a pill would be taped under the table and a note would get passed letting them know. The defendant would then be able to find it with one hand while the other is kept on the desk. Notes were also left and picked up by a middleman(person). In the county he was in at the time it was seen by someone in the audience and it was brought to the attention of the Prosecutor’s office. Nothing was said until it was seen to happen again at which time the Prosecutor asked to approach while a member at his table watched the defense table. The judge cleared the court and the defendant was confronted. The bailiff checked under the table and found numerous pieces of tape. The defendant was questioned and gave up the name of the middleman. Going forward there is a Bailiff standing next to the defendant at all times watching intently.

    Also….court is done on live stream and we definitely saw JA put a folded piece of orange paper into a pocket in her orange folder!!

  377. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 7:42 pm

    Anxiously awaiting Donchais update!! Anyone else???

  378. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 7:44 pm

    Tracey A :
    Anxiously awaiting Donchais update!! Anyone else???

    Me too. Then right to sleep. Got a migraine,

  379. NancyB
    03/19/2013 at 7:44 pm

    Syntara :
    donchais :
    She is the mitigation specialist!

    You totally crack me up! Best laugh I’ve had in a week.

    Shows how much I know I thought that was a serious answer.

    Syntara, Donchais was serious! I misunderstood and had not read any comments above that one for context and so I thought Donchais was referring to JA being her own mitigation specialist cause she’s such an expert on everything. My mistake!

  380. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 7:46 pm

    NancyB :

    Syntara :
    donchais :
    She is the mitigation specialist!

    You totally crack me up! Best laugh I’ve had in a week.
    Shows how much I know I thought that was a serious answer.

    Syntara, Donchais was serious! I misunderstood and had not read any comments above that one for context and so I thought Donchais was referring to JA being her own mitigation specialist cause she’s such an expert on everything. My mistake!

    According to the court record, none has been assigned yet????

  381. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 7:47 pm

    Oh…..and that same woman came up to her just before JA put the folded object in her folder!! Something fishy is going on with this Skank and that woman is involved!! Very coincidental that each time she messes with that folder it’s after this woman has gone over to her.

  382. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 7:47 pm
  383. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 7:48 pm

    Wow CiCi Wonderful intel here! Very interesting! Hoping this comes to JM’s attention. Surprised that Det. Flores hasn’t picked up on it….yet! He’s very sharp as well has Juan Martinez.

  384. 03/19/2013 at 7:49 pm

    Tracey A My heart goes out to you. If you want any good reads on it let me know. Validation and understanding are so important. I’ll repost some links just let me know. There are other cluster B disorders.

    Remorse and empathy are biggies in psychopathy. Some of the other traits alone indicate other disorders such as Narcissism or pathological lying. Lack of affect is a biggie too. Inappropriate behaviour and constantly having to explain to them how their actions effected others.

    They usually have an emotional age of about 6. ie fly into temper tantrums like a 3-6 year old at the slightest provocation. Usually they are covert aggressive. They won’t tell you what’s wrong but they’ll always find some way to get back at you for it. Often you don’t even know you had done anything. Heaven help you if you REALLY upset them or dare to say no to them.

    Still fitting your sister? I hope not.

  385. MMD
    03/19/2013 at 7:50 pm

    iI take that back. My bad. head hurts

    « Return to search results Criminal Court Case Information – Case History
    Case Information
    Case Type: Criminal Location: Downtown
    Party Information
    Party Name – Number Relationship Sex Attorney Judge Case #
    State Of Arizona – (1)
    Plaintiff N/A Martinez, Juan
    Jodi Ann Arias – (2)
    Defendant F Nurmi, Kirk Stephens CR2008-031021-001
    SUE STODOLA – (3)
    Mitigation Specialist N/A To Be Determined

  386. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 7:52 pm

    Tracey A :
    Chrissie A Do you have any more info on Beth Karas being laid off after this trial? She is my favorite!! I think HLN has way more choices before Beth. She is accurate, to the point, and unbiased imho. Just wondering…

    As far as I know they are still letting her go, they are also not going to have live trial coverage after this case either – I just found this petition for her:
    https://www.change.org/petitions/hln-tv-keep-beth-karas

  387. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 7:57 pm

    Syntara Unfortunately, she keeps fitting the bill. No empathy, remorse whatsoever. At any time. And when I physically proved her blatant lies and behaviors, oh boy, did she come after me. But I’m the older sis, so I’ve never had a fear of her. But following JA, maybe I should have!!??? You are so well versed on this subject, that I would read any and all that you provide. You are just a wealth of info! Thanks for all the input you provide!! :-0

  388. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 7:59 pm

    MMD :
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    http://wildabouttrial.com/man-accused-in-body-parts-death-collapses-in-court/ … Man accused in body parts death collapses in court. #CanadianCannibal #CriminalJustice #News #Law #Trial #court
    Just so everyone living in the U.S. realizes that we also have our loons (no offence to the bird) here as well and this guy is an unbelievable one! What he did makes JA look almost sane!

    Sorry you have a migraine honey 😦 Is this the one where the feet only were washing up in Canada and Washington?

  389. 03/19/2013 at 7:59 pm

    NancyB Thank you for the clarification. Glad you had a good laugh though, it’s good for the soul and great stress relief 🙂

    CiCi oooh I do hope the info gets into the right hands but sadly once it’s all over the net.. ie now., they’ll likely find other ways before they get sprung darn it!

  390. 03/19/2013 at 8:09 pm

    Tracey A never let your guard down and never underestimate her. At all costs trust your instinct and listen to that inner voice. If it senses anything don’t ignore it.

    and thank you for your kind words.

    ___________

    okies 8am off to sleep Im turning into a vampire!! Looking forward to Donchais’ summary when I’m refreshed!

    *waves* night all.

  391. 03/19/2013 at 8:11 pm

    Cici- I am sure you were much nicer than he was. If he had done it that way maybe I would not have been so afraid of him. You were/are a smart lady.

  392. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 8:18 pm

    Syntara :
    okies 8am off to sleep Im turning into a vampire!! Looking forward to Donchais’ summary when I’m refreshed!
    *waves* night all.

    Nitey Nite Don’t forget your admonition 🙂

  393. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 8:19 pm

    Tracey A :
    Wow CiCi Wonderful intel here! Very interesting! Hoping this comes to JM’s attention. Surprised that Det. Flores hasn’t picked up on it….yet! He’s very sharp as well has Juan Martinez.

    Before we got off the Wild About Trial site we clicked on a link that took us to the HLN Twitter page (surprised us…first time we tried that!!) and noticed that one of the Twitters (I think that’s what they call themselves) sent the video of JA slipping the folder off the table to Nancy Grace and Dr. Drew and asked them: “Can you tell us wtf is going on here?!”

    We’re hoping they have it on so it can be spread around. We’re sure the Prosecutor will get their hands on it. Chances are if she is caught doing something, we won’t know about it because she will be confronted out of the public view.

  394. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 8:21 pm

    Yay! Donchais update is here!!! Can’t wait!!! Going to read it now. Nitey nite Syntara! Looking forward to chattin’ w/ya tomorrow! Sleep tight!

  395. Chrissie A
    03/19/2013 at 8:22 pm

    Off to Donchais recap for today, but I still need to come back here and catch up on the comments – lol 🙂

  396. Tracey A
    03/19/2013 at 8:25 pm

    Good job CiCi Once NG and DP get ahold of it, it’ll likely go viral. Grreat job Ladies! You are the BOMB! Shut that SKANK down!!!!

  397. 03/19/2013 at 8:33 pm

    CCC & Syntara-did you notice her taking her jacket from the left side draping it over her right arm across her lap then fold her arms? I thought it a strange movement as trial was nowhere over. Also saw her becoming more droopy after she put whatever it was in her mouth. If she pouts much longer her bottom lip is going to cover her chin. Looks like she had chew in the bottom lip. Uughhhhhh!!!!

  398. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/19/2013 at 8:55 pm

    Vickee :
    CCC & Syntara-did you notice her taking her jacket from the left side draping it over her right arm across her lap then fold her arms? I thought it a strange movement as trial was nowhere over. Also saw her becoming more droopy after she put whatever it was in her mouth. If she pouts much longer her bottom lip is going to cover her chin. Looks like she had chew in the bottom lip. Uughhhhhh!!!!

    Yes we did! If anyone is watching the trial on HLN (it’s already over but HLN is so far behind because of their commercials and babble!) watch very carefully when the camera pans over to her after the jury leaves. She sits down and slips a folded piece of paper into her orange folder. It’s very visible now that we know to watch for it!

  399. jad
    03/19/2013 at 9:32 pm

    MMD [at # 109] — Your commentary is so true. Not just that last post, but all of your comments express what so many commenting here seem to feel. From the posts, it is easy to see that the remaining family members must also be in everyone’s thoughts and prayers.

    imo — This is an assist to the loved ones of the crime victims who had suffered so horribly and need some relief when unexpectedly forced to experience the crime all over again at the Trial stage. They surely are shell-shocked and unable to do any research necessary at a time like this. That is why a site such as this one is such a critical asset when it is this late in the game.

    Just look at the “testiphony” of “Dr. Quack”. That is hurtful to the remaining members of the Alexander family (who have lost their brother and their much-loved grandmother, who died hearing and knowing what Jodi Arias was spreading as gospel about her beloved grandson). In addition, the cost to the taxpayers of the State of Arizona has been much more than the proverbial pretty penny. When all is said and done, this case would have cost the taxpayers of the State of Arizona one million dollars. A hefty piece of it will be going to the defense team of criminal lawyers and experts. This site might be able to assist those who want to file a Complaint with the proper regulatory agency and the appropriate jurisdiction where these so-called experts have registered their know-how “for sale”.

    This psychologist, Richard Samuels, has made many statements of what he perceives to be acceptable for a member of his profession, and he has exhibited conduct he believes is reasonable for his profession. For instance, he must consider it to be OK for an older man in that profession to send gifts to a lawyer’s client, who is a young, single woman, after he met her one time on a call for depression [when it is known the patient would be the most vulnerable]. This does not seem to stretch the ethical boundary for Mr. Samuels. He seems to think that it is OK to never record any discussion with a patient, especially when he, as the psychologist, knows he is being paid to know that the correct testimony is needed for a Court of Law. Additionally, he believes the record of the patient does not need to be filed properly and can be filed in a haphazard manner, as questions and other data belonging to his other patients are interchangeable with that of a person accused of murder. Moreover, a psychologist, such as he, seems to feel as though he does not need to number the pages of any of his reports and can merely approximate where they fall in the patient’s treatment. And, even though the manual that is depended on for diagnostic purposes lists the criteria for diagnosis, he, as the already learned psychologist, does not have to follow that which is demanded by the manual because it is just a book. Also, that book need not be any updated version, even if he, as the psychologist, is aware of a newer version since it will probably be very similar. So, why go to all the trouble and expense to keep proper records, file them appropriately, make a correct diagnosis, or consult with another for a patient the psychologist discovered had been lying for the entire first year of treatment.

    His excuses today are very much like his previous explanation about his ethical violation in New Jersey when testifying as an “expert” in a child custody dispute, by providing a lop-sided version of events, wherein he had conveniently not interviewed one of the parents (so that he could provide favorable testimony wherein he knew his slanted testimony would influence the Court’s decision making process for the other parent, who just so happened to be a patient that also provided free dental services for his benefit). In that particular ethical violation of the standards of conduct, this psychologist ignored interviewing the other parent so he could get away with that which he had documented and concluded in his report (after deliberately portraying only one side of the matter).

    You can see that this [State of Arizona licensed] psychologist has not changed to meet the [minimum] standards of his profession, even though he took that ethic’s course demanded in that Administrative Order. Oops! Maybe he forgot what he had learned in the course, due to the fact he had forgotten to mention it (on the witness stand, under OATH) when asked about that ethical violation in which he only admitted to paying a fine. He must have been suffering some form of amnesia. Maybe he’ll use that in this case too (besides that omission about his ethical violation after he swore to tell the truth under penalty of perjury). Maybe he was suffering amnesia when he forgot to provide certain parts of the evidence he must have prepared but clearly must have forgotten where these critical pieces were. Maybe he thought that when he was to make a claim about the evidence for the Jurors, his amnesia worked up and gave him such a fit in understanding he believed himself to be acclaimed, but was traumatized that he could be thought of as befitting a murderous category. So, he might be suffering from PTSD too since he knows that he fudged that Power Point display and did not duplicate that Time magazine article properly. Maybe with that outrageous amount of money the taxpayers paid him for this case, he can get help for his troubles with amnesia and PTSD before he tries to suck at the public teat to load himself up with whatever else he can get for free. OR — maybe he should just hang it up and take a letter to the wise, which is — Enjoy the HANDOUTS & WELFARE bossman before your FREE RIDE is over!!!

  400. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 6:52 pm

    OMG I really hope we get to JM’s cross today but it doesn’t look like it.

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