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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty-Six

03/21/2013

Yesterday was painful…so full of BS and boring.  The jury questions ought to be a hoot!

Court begins at 10:59 (laughing at self for doing this each day, it only frustrates me!) geez, judge has them approach!

Schlock doc on the stand.

Screen shot 2013-03-21 at 2.04.17 PMJury brought in at 11:01.

Are you only allowed to testify with your client’s consent?  Yes.

In flight or fight does the body choose which you do?  Tendency for flee usually.

How can we be certain that your assessment is correct based on the fact Ms. Arias has told lies for years?  You look at the symptom list and decide which match what the client has told you and I believe she does have PTSD.

Now say Jodi could have heard or read things that created pseudo-memories.

Wow, Jodi really trying to look at the jury!  Bet she’s peeing her pants!

OMG, these answers are so rehearsed! Bibbidy-bobbidy-boo!

Can you be sure Jodi isn’t lying to you about the events on June 4?  Not absolutely, but after talking to her several times the answers remained the same.

The jury questions are screaming this is phony-baloney and the jury doesn’t buy it!

Was Jodi tested more than once on any given test?  No.

Are there other conditions in the DSM that contain the same symptoms?  Yes, but through investigation we can determine which condition we are looking at.

Samuels only did tests that would give him the results he wanted!

Is Ms. Arias taking medication for this PTSD?  Sometimes she has taken medication that was provided by the jail.

Now says she also has a personality disorder!

Not fer nothing, most of this is non-responsive BS!

Says she reported shaking during the attack, while being chased and yelled at.  He didn’t see it at first because there was a counter with a thick screen during the interview.

Uhh, umm, ehhh…didn’t he say the other day he DID see her hands shake????

Her actions during acute stress were disorganized and frenzied, no thought to them.

Then how the hell did she clean up, put the camera in the washer, and manipulate the crime scene????

Juan is objecting to Samuels getting into details of the crime scene…not the Schlock doc’s area of so-called expertise!

Would you continue to evaluate someone who lies repeatedly?  It doesn’t happen often, but sometimes you have to give up and recommend someone else.

Jodi told him she snapped into reality at the Hoover Dam and found herself ‘covered’ in blood.

What happened to Jodi on the stand saying it was just her hands and got the bottle of Costco water to wash of her hands?

Yeehaw…this jury sees right through this bozo!

Jodi is repeatedly touching her hair, face, and throat (self-comforting)…she’s scared!

They just nailed him on her claim to be suicidal and if it should have been reported, ethically!  He says by the time he saw here he didn’t see a suicide plan!

Lunch recess called.

Yikes!  Even more questions handed in !

Court resumes at 1:31!!!!!!

Isn’t low self-esteem normal in the general population?  It’s not common and should be treated.

Is there an assumption that those in the norm population tell the truth?  Yes.

Jodi watching the jury like a hawk today!

Why didn’t Jodi flee the bedroom?  She said she tried, but then she decided to fight.

Someone on jury knows a lot about this subject.  Mental health worker?

Do you feel comfortable diagnosing a person who repeatedly lied?  Not if I know they were lying.

Woot!  The latest model of foil hat has arrived and they are very stylish!

Does acute stress occur when a death is planned as opposed to by accident?  It can, but not usual.

When you said after you heard Jodi’s new story and you didn’t retest for PTSD and that was in error, but now you’ve said a retest wouldn’t have change the result, which is true?  I was thrown by Mr. Martinez and answered incorrectly.  Her score wouldn’t have changed.

Willmott on follow-up…

They talked about her relationship with Travis even before she admitted the final story.

You were asked if the death could have been due to jealousy?  Yes.

Did Jodi express jealousy?  No.

Any doubt she suffered a trauma on June 4?  Yes.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Willmott makes me zone out.  She can’t rehabilitate this hack in any way, shape or form!

He says Jodi’s actions at the scene that led cops right to her, was not rational.

God, make it stop!

They have so lost the jury and just doing more damage to their case!

Not fer nothin, half these questions have nothing to do with the jury questions…the same crap happened when they did this with Arias!  IMHO, after the jury questions get answered, it should be all done, all through.

Travis is now a misogynist?  OMG!

So, stabbing someone 27 times, slashing their throat, and shooting them, isn’t an assertive person?  WTH?

Willmott, you have way passed the point where your losses should have been cut!!!

WildAboutTrial  @WildAboutTrial  

 Willmott is continuing on with questioning even though I am using telekinesis to try and get her to wrap it up for you all.

Snort!

Afternoon recess…

Court back at 3:27.

Jeezy Creezy…Willmott gonna drag this out to the end of the day.

Ahhh, the tremors, and shaking were told to Samuels by Nurmi…not Jodi!

Moving all sharp instruments away!

Now he says he’s proficient in hypnosis…eye roll.

Willmott has gone so far astray from Samuels’ testimony and the jury questions that this has become brand new testimony from Samuels.

Martinez is up….

The PDS test didn’t need to be re-administered…Martinez shows him the raw data that he identifies.

Willmott asks to approach…

OMG!  He scored the test twice and the numbers changed in 2013!!!  Claims he misplaced the worksheet so he decided to rescore!

OMFG!

Do you remember the jury asked this question?  No.

Do you have memory problems?  No more than you do sir!

Juan burnin down the house!

You said you had compassion?  Yes.

Then you had sympathy for the defendant?  I didn’t say that.

Martinez shows him the definition for compassion from the Webster dictionary!

Samuels agrees to accept that, lol!

Martinez shows the description contains the word sympathy.

I don’t inject any bias to evaluations in my thirty-fives years.

Juan hammering him on the original report that was missing certain diagnosis numbers.

Willmott keeps objecting and getting shot down!

So, whether she killed him or the ninjas did, wouldn’t change the diagnosis?  Yes, it didn’t change my opinion.

You say in both instances someone threatened to kill her?  Yes.

So in both of those stories about her fearing being killed, makes no difference that one of them is untrue?  They were consistent in both stories.

Samuels claims it wasn’t unethical that he changed the score!!!!

Willmott gettin into biatch mode, lol!

Something very wrong went on with that bogus testing.

Boy, the bacon is sizzling now!

4:34 Judge calls recess and tells them the schedule for 10 days or so…next Thursday is 9:30 to 12:30…no court on Monday April 1, resumes Tuesday as normal!

I’m done in here!

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  1. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 7:51 pm

    Gotta post quickly so I can reconfirm to the blog on webmail and then shut the damn thing down!

    Thank you donchais for your reporting, your site, your advocacy for victims, and for putting up with the bunch of us! and Dr, Quack!!!!!

    You need a medal! 🙂

  2. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 7:51 pm

    Now I can read what you wrote and enjoy myself! 🙂

  3. Kimmy
    03/21/2013 at 7:55 pm

    MMD :
    Now I can read what you wrote and enjoy myself!

    MMD I’m new here too and not sure if I signed up correctly. Ugh! JW is back to the test!!! Seriously I almost through my remote at the TV but turned it off. Are my blogs coming through? Love this site so much. Thanks.

  4. Kimmy
    03/21/2013 at 7:55 pm

    Ugh threw!

  5. NancyB
    03/21/2013 at 7:58 pm

    Woot! The latest model of foil hat has arrived and they are very stylish!

    And I want one! 🙂

  6. 03/21/2013 at 8:01 pm

    We will not see the likes of such a person more deserving of the DP than JA, at least not soon. .I thought OJ deserved punishment, same with Robert Blake and Casey Anthony, but this case is one for the record books. She is sort of an enigma. Transparent sure, and guilty as hell, but it took her 62 seconds to butcher this poor boy And for that she deserves death. The handprint is on the wall.

  7. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:01 pm

    NancyB :
    Woot! The latest model of foil hat has arrived and they are very stylish!
    And I want one!

    Now are the antennas a new design as well! After all we’ll have to change our trade mark on them 🙂

  8. Trial watcher
    03/21/2013 at 8:06 pm

    the comments have been flying fast and furious on here.Just came in to hear JM start his cross of the wacko doc i missed all of the jury questions TY Donchais for this site we love you for it! this trial has become a big part of my daily life these days LOL LOL
    Am I Crazy or what??

  9. 03/21/2013 at 8:06 pm

    I’m getting PTSD from watching Juan rip this quack a new one.

  10. Kimmy
    03/21/2013 at 8:07 pm

    Oh man JM is good! He is on fire again! Overuled JW! Just sit down and shut up!

  11. 03/21/2013 at 8:08 pm

    NancyB :
    Woot! The latest model of foil hat has arrived and they are very stylish!
    And I want one!

    Can I see a pic plse?

  12. Kimmy
    03/21/2013 at 8:09 pm

    OMG! Let me look it up???? He is a wanker!

  13. Kimmy
    03/21/2013 at 8:10 pm

    Anyone notice the smile on Nurmi’s face?

  14. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:11 pm

    Kimmy :

    MMD :
    Now I can read what you wrote and enjoy myself!

    MMD I’m new here too and not sure if I signed up correctly. Ugh! JW is back to the test!!! Seriously I almost through my remote at the TV but turned it off. Are my blogs coming through? Love this site so much. Thanks.

    Welcome Kimmy! If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez.

    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger! Another bonus that donchais provides free of charge is that on days when there isn’t trial scheduled, she keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. Truly a public service in itself, although a great deal of online shopping does occur!

    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy! 🙂

    It really is a great group of people from around the world and everyone is so supportive of each other. Quite a few of us started out very computer illiterate!

    BTW, I’m not new, just having a bunch of email issues that I will have to deal with my provider and get them to fix. My comment notices were coming in multiples of 8. I now have over 1500 emails in my inbox and no idea how to get them the hell out! 😦 But like Gone with the Wind, I’ll worry about it tomorrow!

  15. 03/21/2013 at 8:11 pm

    MMD are you around?

  16. 03/21/2013 at 8:12 pm

    Shitties! bold again.. soz soz soz for the 1000th time

  17. Laine
    03/21/2013 at 8:15 pm

    Thanks donchais nice summary…I felt your pain today I’m sure at one point during Wilmots redirect I was staring at the screen and was on a beach in Hawaii….I think it’s a self presevation for the brain reflex! take the tin hat off and try it sometime lol

  18. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:17 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD are you around?

    Yep, I’m here. I just did my welcome to Kimmy but it is in moderation. Are you headed for bed?????

  19. Dr.Tony Sabatassso
    03/21/2013 at 8:18 pm

    he may have a Ph.D. In psychology but he could not have gotten through the Ph,D. program I went through in the 60 s and 70 s, errors and boundaries and changing scores and compleet absence of any objectivity.. even his test selection reflects bias.. he did this case form his bathroom ……. readings../.we ain’t all like that ……not one bit!

  20. 03/21/2013 at 8:19 pm

    MMD I’m going to get sleep. Happy? 😛

    Thank you Donchais for your site and your summaries… sooooo goood!

    *waves to everyone* See you all soon I hope! 😀

  21. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:19 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD are you around?

    BTW, my hands are still on my hips! 😦

  22. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:20 pm

    Ok Syn, have a good sleep! I’ll be keeping an eye on you for the next few days! Thanks for all your hilarious translations today! They were great 🙂

  23. 03/21/2013 at 8:20 pm

    MMD – Yep! HaHa!

    …and yes Welcome Kimmy!

  24. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:21 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD – Yep! HaHa!
    …and yes Welcome Kimmy!

    waves back……….

  25. 03/21/2013 at 8:21 pm

    No worries MMD 😀 Glad you enjoyed em.

    *waves again*

    byeeeeeeeeee 4 now

  26. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:24 pm

    Dr.Tony Sabatassso :
    he may have a Ph.D. In psychology but he could not have gotten through the Ph,D. program I went through in the 60 s and 70 s, errors and boundaries and changing scores and compleet absence of any objectivity.. even his test selection reflects bias.. he did this case form his bathroom ……. readings../.we ain’t all like that ……not one bit!

    Yeah we know you all aren’t like that. He’s just Dr. Quack and gives real professionals a bad name, sad to say. I don’t think that the jury is buying what he is selling anyway! Thanks for your imput! 🙂

  27. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 8:26 pm

    I love Martinez!!

  28. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:26 pm

    I’m watching JM again and what a joy he is. Calming me down from all my trauma today 🙂 Really glad the new foil hats are here, because the old ones are obviously way way too thin. Too much bs is getting through!

  29. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 8:27 pm

    Syn – Have a great sleep! Thank you for all of your humor today. You are just a joy! Nite Nite! And would please flip my shrimp on the BBQ!!! LOL

  30. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 8:28 pm

    I dont mean to be petty but the expert’s brown suit jacket isn’t doing him any favors!

  31. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:29 pm

    Lisa M :
    I love Martinez!!

    Me too. He makes other prosecutors pale in comparison. I would still like to jump his bones though! 😉

  32. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:30 pm

    Tracey A :
    Syn – Have a great sleep! Thank you for all of your humor today. You are just a joy! Nite Nite! And would please flip my shrimp on the BBQ!!! LOL

    You realize that she is never gonna let you forget that barbie spelling – ever….. LOL

  33. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 8:32 pm

    Once again Donchais, you have out done yourself. Thank you for your wit and snark! It’s perfect!

  34. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 8:33 pm

    MMD – Oh don’t I know it! That’ll haunt me for a long time. LOL!

  35. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:33 pm

    Lisa M :
    I dont mean to be petty but the expert’s brown suit jacket isn’t doing him any favors!

    All the bs he spewed changed the color of his suit – It was originally a light grey! 🙂

  36. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 8:34 pm

    MMD :

    Lisa M :
    I love Martinez!!

    Me too. He makes other prosecutors pale in comparison. I would still like to jump his bones though!

    Get in line MMD. I think most of us do too!

  37. Kimmy
    03/21/2013 at 8:34 pm

    MMD :

    Kimmy :

    MMD :
    Now I can read what you wrote and enjoy myself!

    MMD I’m new here too and not sure if I signed up correctly. Ugh! JW is back to the test!!! Seriously I almost through my remote at the TV but turned it off. Are my blogs coming through? Love this site so much. Thanks.

    Welcome Kimmy! If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez.
    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger! Another bonus that donchais provides free of charge is that on days when there isn’t trial scheduled, she keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. Truly a public service in itself, although a great deal of online shopping does occur!
    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy!
    It really is a great group of people from around the world and everyone is so supportive of each other. Quite a few of us started out very computer illiterate!
    BTW, I’m not new, just having a bunch of email issues that I will have to deal with my provider and get them to fix. My comment notices were coming in multiples of 8. I now have over 1500 emails in my inbox and no idea how to get them the hell out! But like Gone with the Wind, I’ll worry about it tomorrow!

    Oh yay I got my official greeting from you MMD! When can I get my foil hat? 😀 Now I feel a part of the group. I’ve been following and following this forum and damn I am mad at WillNOT now! I was so hoping JM could get in his cross before poor Jodi had to be done by 4:30. I love all you guys and your wonderful insight. Never even knew of this case until an ABC article on the internet in January then found this site. Syntara and Chrissie A you guys rock as you do MMD! 😀

  38. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/21/2013 at 8:35 pm

    Just thought I’d carry over my comments since we got in here late today: Look what happened to me at Jury duty today. Just freaked me out:

    MUST READ!! SPOOKY!!
    Hello All…..here we are finally!! Guess what….CiCi had jury duty today and just got back!

    I (CiCi) have to share some spookiness with you all….! I took a book with me to read while sitting in the jury waiting room (The Modoc Tragedy). In short it’s a story about a tribe of Indians back in the 1800 who were tragically hunted and killed by the white man…..no offense to those in the group…..just historical story). Anyway….as I started reading about the tribe’s history they were described as being from the far Northern part of California in a town called “Yreka”!!! Now what are the odds of this?!! And then to add to it…..I’m sitting at the courthouse!!! Talk about feeling freaked out…..I thought OMG….this NUT is haunting me!!!

    Well my little group watched the trial on HLN until I got back. From what they tell me I’m GLAD I missed the first half!!

  39. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:35 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Oh don’t I know it! That’ll haunt me for a long time. LOL!

    Hey, I would have spelled it the same way!

  40. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 8:36 pm

    MMD – To your comment on jumping JM…my response is in moderation (Sorry Donchais). My response is get in line. I think most of do too! hehehe

  41. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:37 pm

    bubblebutts :
    We will not see the likes of such a person more deserving of the DP than JA, at least not soon. .I thought OJ deserved punishment, same with Robert Blake and Casey Anthony, but
    this case is one for the record books. She is sort of an enigma. Transparent sure, and guilty as hell, but it took her 62 seconds to butcher this poor boy And for that she deserves death. The handprint is on the wall.

    Preaching to the choir with me darlin’! 🙂

  42. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 8:38 pm

    From an ABC News story, a forensic paychiatrist says, “Martinez had Jodi Arias for dinner and he ate this guy for dessert. It is as if Jodi Arias was Bernie Madoff and [Samuels] would have invested his life savings in what she is telling him.”
    I love it!

  43. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:39 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – To your comment on jumping JM…my response is in moderation (Sorry Donchais). My response is get in line. I think most of do too! hehehe

    Yeah but I called dibs on him first a while back, so there! I can’t remember who has dibs on the ME, but he’s a cutie too!

  44. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:39 pm

    Lisa M :
    From an ABC News story, a forensic paychiatrist says, “Martinez had Jodi Arias for dinner and he ate this guy for dessert. It is as if Jodi Arias was Bernie Madoff and [Samuels] would have invested his life savings in what she is telling him.”
    I love it!

    Love it, love it, love it………

  45. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 8:39 pm

    Someone please hand me a barf bag. I can’t watch these defense freaks on JVM talk about what a great witness Dr. Wanker is for Jodi’s case. I’m gonna hurl!

  46. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 8:42 pm

    MMD – Actually, Syntara might have dibs on you. She was getting down right protective of him the other day.

  47. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 8:42 pm

    Bubblebutts, I don’t see how OJ is any less deserving of capitol punishment than Jodi. He slashed two people to their deaths. I think the crimes are pretty similar. Both brought on by jealousy. Both premeditated. Both involved stalking. In OJs case, at least he finally ended up in jail. One can only hope Casey’s karma will be just as bad.

  48. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:45 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    Anyway….as I started reading about the tribe’s history they were described as being from the far Northern part of California in a town called “Yreka”!!! Now what are the odds of this?!! And then to add to it…..I’m sitting at the courthouse!!! Talk about feeling freaked out…..I thought OMG….this NUT is haunting me!!!
    Well my little group watched the trial on HLN until I got back. From what they tell me I’m GLAD I missed the first half!!

    That is spooky CCC and yes I do believe she is haunting you. I think she put a hex on my email today.

    You were missed today and the rest of your group is right, it was a totally frustrating, maddening day with Dr. Quack. Syntara did an awesome job posting the questions along with the real truth (translation of his bs) You need to read it. It is really funny! Anyway, glad you’re back! 🙂

  49. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:46 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Actually, Syntara might have dibs on you. She was getting down right protective of him the other day.

    Yeah but she is all that distance away in OZ! 🙂

  50. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 8:47 pm

    Sorry Bubble, I think I misinterpreted what u said about OJ. I agree this one is one for the books! But OJs was too, that’s all I was trying to say. Didn’t mean to sound critical!

  51. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:47 pm

    Tracey, I do believe I made my original comment prior to her joining our group!

  52. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 8:51 pm

    I just noticed I wrote paychiatrist instead of psychiatrist in my last post but I think the misspelled word describes Samuel pretty well! (I make so many typos on this iPhone!)

  53. Trial watcher
    03/21/2013 at 8:51 pm

    I HAVE got to read this book you’re talking about, sounds great,the kind of thing I really enjoy.TY!
    Now as for this Doctor! JM has made mincemeat of his credibility, get him off the stand PLEASE!!!! Enough already……….
    DP is around the corner and little Miss Phoney Arias knows it too!!

  54. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:51 pm

    Lisa M :
    Bubblebutts, I don’t see how OJ is any less deserving of capitol punishment than Jodi. He slashed two people to their deaths. I think the crimes are pretty similar. Both brought on by jealousy. Both premeditated. Both involved stalking. In OJs case, at least he finally ended up in jail. One can only hope Casey’s karma will be just as bad.

    I hadn’t even thought about punishment for OJ because I still haven’t gotten over that verdict. Thankfully Nevada got him, albeit for a different crime! I still get upset thinking about Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. I’m so glad he has lost everything now!

  55. Kimmy
    03/21/2013 at 8:52 pm

    Geez isn’t Jodi way younger than JW? Holy cow crap they just showed the two beside each other and JA looking way haggarged than JW. How you kept up today Syntara with your posts? Rock on girl!

  56. 03/21/2013 at 8:52 pm

    If I’m ever in a spot where I meet Juan Martinez I’m just gonna put my hands behind my back and say, “Just lock me up, guy, you got me, whatever it was I did.”

  57. NancyB
    03/21/2013 at 8:52 pm

    It really bothered me that the courtroom observers had to take off their ribbons for Travis, at least she couldn’t make the family do it….this “defendent rights” thing is starting to get out of control….This case shouts for some victim rights in and out of the courtroom.

  58. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:55 pm

    I so hope that the defense team reads this blog so they can find out how people globally are thinking. I think we are a bit more realistic compared to HLN and their defense experts.

  59. Mckealty
    03/21/2013 at 8:56 pm

    Juan asking Samuels if he performed a memory eval on the prosecutor was classic. 🙂

  60. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:58 pm

    bubblebutts :
    If I’m ever in a spot where I meet Juan Martinez I’m just gonna put my hands behind my back and say, “Just lock me up, guy, you got me, whatever it was I did.”

    I know, he’s that good. On the other hand, he’s who you want in your corner if you’re a victim or family member. He just keeps going like the ENERGIZER BUNNY until he gets a conviction. Plus he genuinely cares about the family of the victim.

  61. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 8:59 pm

    Mckealty :
    Juan asking Samuels if he performed a memory eval on the prosecutor was classic.

    It truly was!

  62. Marilyn N
    03/21/2013 at 9:00 pm

    Trial watcher: I’m not so sure “Miss Phoney Arias” thinks the DP is around the corner.
    I’d be willing to bet she thinks she’ll be out in a couple years.

    Pleeeeeze jurors, be smart!!!

  63. Jill
    03/21/2013 at 9:00 pm

    Hi, Does anyone know why jodi was smiling towards the jury as they went to recess earlier today
    , and then whispering to her attorney to look at the jury leaving? and then the attorney looked and smiled too? Ty.

  64. Mckealty
    03/21/2013 at 9:02 pm

    I would like to add that, in every page I’ve been to mostly Facebook and a few other standalone websites, there seems to be a theme of people thinking their comments on the internet are being watched.

    I think people need to take a step back.

    Juan is not reading Facebook or looking at Youtube comments to help build his case.

    No one in that courtroom is looking to random people on random internet websites to help them out.

    We are not involved in the case in any way whatsoever. They are not watching us for what we think. The only opinions they care about are those of the Judge and the jury. Not “joeyfromdetroit4449776@aol.com” who makes a comment on a Youtube video.

    Please people.

    This is not American Idol where we can vote. The Judge doesn’t look into the camera at the end of session and say, “Ok America…we’re scanning the internet now. There are 644 million active websites in the world, and we are reading every comment in every single thread from every single poster that is commenting about this case and incorporating your ideas into the case. Also, text your questions for the witness to 5555-55”.

    Please, no one is looking to us.

  65. katz63md
    03/21/2013 at 9:02 pm

    Hi all. Did I miss something? I thought court was dark today so I missed the entire thing. I kept looking at my laptop all day wishing I could watch the trial, miny withdrawal! Anyway, thank you Donchais for getting me caught up. Would have loved to have heard the jury questions. Glad though that I didn’t have to sit through W and the DR.

    Have a good weekend everyone! I’ll be lurking through the comments throughout the weekend.

  66. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 9:04 pm

    Kimmy – Welcome! You’ll love this group. And Syntara had us all going today. She’s a total gem!!!

  67. Jill
    03/21/2013 at 9:06 pm

    Can’t stand how Jodi is sitting there so confidently and how she keeps looking over at the jury. You can tell just by her arrogant attitude that she did not do this in self defense..a normal person who killed someone in self defense would have their head hung low and feel terrible and ashamed. She makes me so sick. How does she have the gall to even make eye contact with the jury?

  68. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 9:06 pm

    MMD – I think you are right. You have dibs before Syn. She joined a day or so after me. But we’re gonna keep our eye on you! Just in case we have the opportunity to “move up the ladder” so to speak. LOL!

  69. Mckealty
    03/21/2013 at 9:09 pm

    The thing about Jodi I have found funny lately is how her nearsightedness has disappeared.

    When she was on the stand, she (obviously at the coaching of her defense) made a big ordeal to remove her glasses in order to read something handed to her.

    Yet, as she’s sitting at her defense table reading, writing, doodling, drawing love notes to her new girlfriend whatever, she doesn’t touch them.

    Now that’s amazing!

  70. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:09 pm

    Jill :
    Hi, Does anyone know why jodi was smiling towards the jury as they went to recess earlier today
    , and then whispering to her attorney to look at the jury leaving? and then the attorney looked and smiled too? Ty.

    Hi Jill – From the reports I’ve heard it seems that she thinks she has a “Juror Buddy” but maybe the juror is playing her – lol

  71. 03/21/2013 at 9:10 pm

    Hey, I agree OJ should have gotten the max in CA. Shiit, I wrote a book about it because of my outrage. But I’m not shocked by acquittals of guilty people anymore. Casey Anrhony did it, I didn’t care about watching this trial, but once I heard her absurd claims about Travis I couldn’t wait for cross-examination. Now I’m hooked, and demand justice once again.

  72. Jill
    03/21/2013 at 9:10 pm

    Good observation mckealty…I never noticed that til u mentioned it.

  73. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 9:11 pm

    Mckealty – I agree with you. I don’t think they’re watching. Where would they find the time? And frankly, I hope they’re not. Especially, those that most of us view unfavorably.

  74. Jill
    03/21/2013 at 9:11 pm

    Ty chrissie….that scares me now…

  75. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 9:11 pm

    Mckealty :
    Please, no one is looking to us.

    Well we know for sure that the defense is watching HLN because they have had people giving interviews who they “might” use as a witness banned from court. They have also obtained videos from them as well.

    I don’t think any of us here think that they are reading this and JM certainly needs no input from anyone. He is a force of nature! After all, he is only concerned with the 12 jurors, as it should be.

  76. Mckealty
    03/21/2013 at 9:12 pm

    Jill :
    Can’t stand how Jodi is sitting there so confidently and how she keeps looking over at the jury. You can tell just by her arrogant attitude that she did not do this in self defense..a normal person who killed someone in self defense would have their head hung low and feel terrible and ashamed. She makes me so sick. How does she have the gall to even make eye contact with the jury?

    I know what you mean. She’s a sick, sick person.

    But it’s my opinion that she has NPD. And narcissists care very, very much in what other’s think of them.

    But I see your overall point. You would expect someone that’s remorseful to, you know…look remorseful. lol

  77. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 9:14 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – I think you are right. You have dibs before Syn. She joined a day or so after me. But we’re gonna keep our eye on you! Just in case we have the opportunity to “move up the ladder” so to speak. LOL!

    That’s fair! I’ll be keeping an eye on you two as well just in case to try to skip a rung 🙂

  78. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 9:16 pm

    Bubblebutts – I couldn’t agree more. I thought I would never watch another trial after CA. I was outraged by that verdict and still am. But when I heard this nut job’s ever changing stories and the prosecutor has a pit bull, I tuned in and am hooked. However, if this should be another crazy verdict, I think I can honestly say I’ll be done watching. I wouldn’t be able handle another travesty.

  79. Jill
    03/21/2013 at 9:16 pm

    Yes, I can’t believe that this psychologist can get away with not diagnosing her with NPD… I am a lay person and I can even see that she strongly exhibits all the signs of a narcissist.

  80. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:16 pm

    Kudos on the marvelous recap Donchais – thanks so much!!
    Loving me some new tin foil hats, will the barf bags match?

    Quick question re: “OMG, these answers are so rehearsed! Bibbidy-bobbidy-boo!”

    Does the jury have any idea that they get to review the questions beforehand? I’m thinking if they are all from the area they are probably no strangers to the system.

  81. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 9:17 pm

    MMD – Fair enough! LMAO!

  82. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 9:17 pm

    I’m off for the night. Gotta wind down. I have a dr’s appt in the a.m. which I made them schedule on a Friday! LOL Usually I’m the last appt of the day but I told them I was busy all week except Friday.;-)

    Have fun everyone. See ya all tomorrow. Nite nite *****waves******

  83. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:18 pm

    Kimmy :
    OMG! Let me look it up???? He is a wanker!

    Welcome Kiimmy!!! He sure is and a royal one at that 🙂

  84. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:19 pm

    MMD :
    I’m off for the night. Gotta wind down. I have a dr’s appt in the a.m. which I made them schedule on a Friday! LOL Usually I’m the last appt of the day but I told them I was busy all week except Friday.;-)
    Have fun everyone. See ya all tomorrow. Nite nite *****waves******

    Nite sweetpea, Pleasant dreams !!!

  85. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 9:20 pm

    MMD – I think you are right about defense watching HLN. Especially since that motion was made. It may have just be brought to their attention.

  86. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 9:21 pm

    MMD – Nite nite. Take good care! Had a ball with you today. See ya soon I hope.
    *waves back*

  87. Mckealty
    03/21/2013 at 9:22 pm

    Jill :
    Yes, I can’t believe that this psychologist can get away with not diagnosing her with NPD… I am a lay person and I can even see that she strongly exhibits all the signs of a narcissist.

    I know that Juan has a forensic Psych on his witness list. I hope he calls her. There’s a great breakdown of everything wrong with Dr. Samuels here: http://bit.ly/YJbmEp

    As far as NPD goes, I was married to one and am currently in the process of divorcing one after a pretty nasty domestic violence episode. Jodi reminds me very much of my wife.

  88. NancyB
    03/21/2013 at 9:23 pm

    So glad that the family stood their ground and refused to remove the blue ribbons

  89. MMD
    03/21/2013 at 9:25 pm

    Thanks everyone. Sweet dreams to you all!

  90. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:27 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    Just thought I
    MUST READ!! SPOOKY!!
    I (CiCi) have to share some spookiness with you all….! I took a book with me to read while sitting in the jury waiting room (The Modoc Tragedy). In short it’s a story about a tribe of Indians back in the 1800 who were tragically hunted and killed by the white man…..no offense to those in the group…..just historical story). Anyway….as I started reading about the tribe’s history they were described as being from the far Northern part of California in a town called “Yreka”!!! Now what are the odds of this?!! And then to add to it…..I’m sitting at the courthouse!!! Talk about feeling freaked out…..I thought OMG….this NUT is haunting me!!!
    Well my little group watched the trial on HLN until I got back. From what they tell me I’m GLAD I missed the first half!!

    That is freaky CiCi – must have put a shivered yer timbers!!! Hope you get to catch up on Juan’s brilliant cross – he was slicing and dicing again!!!

    I posted some links for you on yesterday’s thread and am still hunting down others for you all, we all missed you today !!!

  91. Mckealty
    03/21/2013 at 9:28 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Jill :
    Hi, Does anyone know why jodi was smiling towards the jury as they went to recess earlier today
    , and then whispering to her attorney to look at the jury leaving? and then the attorney looked and smiled too? Ty.

    Hi Jill – From the reports I’ve heard it seems that she thinks she has a “Juror Buddy” but maybe the juror is playing her – lol

    Can I see a link to those reports?

    I’m sure that her defense has coached her to try and “get” a jury member. But I haven’t heard any credible reports like that.

    I’ve read rumors on National Enquirer type websites and sensationlistic websites like TMZ and HLN, but nothing of any real substance.

    If a juror and Jodi were smiling back and forth to each other the Judge would immediately remove that juror…and that’s to say if Juan, who’s sitting right next to the jury would have missed it as well.

  92. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:33 pm

    NancyB :
    So glad that the family stood their ground and refused to remove the blue ribbons

    They did? I thought that they had to remove them – I’m pleased too – as it seems the evil one thinks she is running the courtroom.

  93. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 9:35 pm

    McKealty I agree that the prosecutor doesn’t look at blogs about the case. But remember how people were saying after the CA trial that Jose Baez’s team was tracking social media and how people were reacting to George Anthony, and that they incorporated that into their defense strategy? Don’t know if there’s any truth in that or if they did that before or during trial. I also think Jodi has NPD. Didn’t Samuels allude to her also having a personality disorder? Wonder which one he was referring to.

  94. 03/21/2013 at 9:36 pm

    I don’t know about you but when the Russian/French psychic gets on tv to defend Travis I get the heebie jeebies…

  95. 03/21/2013 at 9:38 pm

    Julie Christopher…JC…

  96. Marilyn N
    03/21/2013 at 9:38 pm

    MMD :
    Thanks everyone. Sweet dreams to you all!

    Night night!!

  97. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 9:39 pm

    Bubblebutts: “I don’t know about you but when the Russian/French psychic gets on tv to defend Travis I get the heebie jeebies…”

    Ha ha! I do too!!!

  98. Marilyn N
    03/21/2013 at 9:41 pm

    Lisa M :
    McKealty I agree that the prosecutor doesn’t look at blogs about the case. But remember how people were saying after the CA trial that Jose Baez’s team was tracking social media and how people were reacting to George Anthony, and that they incorporated that into their defense strategy? Don’t know if there’s any truth in that or if they did that before or during trial. I also think Jodi has NPD. Didn’t Samuels allude to her also having a personality disorder? Wonder which one he was referring to.

    IMO,
    I think if anyone is watching HLN and the media it is the defense, not JM.
    He has been studying the facts of this case for 4+ years and appears to know it
    inside and out.

  99. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/21/2013 at 9:47 pm

    Jill :
    Hi, Does anyone know why jodi was smiling towards the jury as they went to recess earlier today
    , and then whispering to her attorney to look at the jury leaving? and then the attorney looked and smiled too? Ty.

    Someone cut and pasted something from the TWITTERs page indicating that JA told JW that she has a rapport with one of the Jurors. Then she showed JW the expression the Juror made to her. That’s probably why they both smiled as the jury went out.

    The Twitter is on yesterday’s blogs towards the end if I remember. I’ll see if I can find it and copy to this day.

  100. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:48 pm

    Mckealty :

    Chrissie A :

    Jill :

    Can I see a link to those reports?

    They are reports from reporters & spectators who are in attendance at the trial, (conversing on twitter) I’m sure it will surface very soon.

  101. Marilyn N
    03/21/2013 at 9:49 pm

    On the other hand, Martinez might be watching HLN as well. Heck, why not!!?
    Could be entertaining…..

  102. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/21/2013 at 9:49 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :

    Jill :
    Hi, Does anyone know why jodi was smiling towards the jury as they went to recess earlier today
    , and then whispering to her attorney to look at the jury leaving? and then the attorney looked and smiled too? Ty.

    Someone cut and pasted something from the TWITTERs page indicating that JA told JW that she has a rapport with one of the Jurors. Then she showed JW the expression the Juror made to her. That’s probably why they both smiled as the jury went out.
    The Twitter is on yesterday’s blogs towards the end if I remember. I’ll see if I can find it and copy to this day.

    HERE IT IS:

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :

    Chrissie A :
    Betty ‏@betty3059
    Jodi tells Willmott that she has a friend with 1 of the jurors. Even shows Willmott expression from juror to JA.
    Others replied to this tweet that they saw it too! t I think I was on the phone – Did anyone here pick up on this?

    We can’t see the jurors – ???????? if it’s anyone it’s tri coloured hair

    Just asked if they can find out approx where they were sitting, I’m thinking a guy, I would be really surprised if any woman there didn’t see through her

  103. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 9:56 pm

    Marilyn N :
    On the other hand, Martinez might be watching HLN as well. Heck, why not!!?
    Could be entertaining…..

    Lol !!!

  104. 03/21/2013 at 9:57 pm

    God help us, this trial will NEVER END, bless you Donchais 🙂 ❤

  105. NancyB
    03/21/2013 at 10:03 pm

    Chrissie A :

    NancyB :
    So glad that the family stood their ground and refused to remove the blue ribbons

    They did? I thought that they had to remove them – I’m pleased too – as it seems the evil one thinks she is running the courtroom.

    Hi Chrissie! Yes, they initially removed them but some time later put them back on!

  106. PAM
    03/21/2013 at 10:05 pm

    JA wore that red tight top today to try her charms(barf) on the jurors. I heard a report somewhere also that one of the jurors caught her eye yesterday and they were passing glances to one another. Love this blog…would be out of my mind without it. TY Donchais and all you super smart, inciteful people on here.

  107. Gigi
    03/21/2013 at 10:12 pm

    Mckealty :

    Jill :
    Can’t stand how Jodi is sitting there so confidently and how she keeps looking over at the jury. You can tell just by her arrogant attitude that she did not do this in self defense..a normal person who killed someone in self defense would have their head hung low and feel terrible and ashamed. She makes me so sick. How does she have the gall to even make eye contact with the jury?

    I know what you mean. She’s a sick, sick person.
    But it’s my opinion that she has NPD. And narcissists care very, very much in what other’s think of them.
    But I see your overall point. You would expect someone that’s remorseful to, you know…look remorseful. lol

    If she had just been able to come out and say “I can’t believe what I did to this guy, I can’t believe I hurt him that way, I am so very sorry for what I did to this person, I can’t stand myself for what I did to him, it was so very terrible and wrong, I can’t believe what I made him go through, the pain and suffering, and I don’t ever expect to be forgiven for it.” Or something, anything involving how sorry she is for what she did to him – but, nada. I think she’ll be convicted and I think what will give her the death penalty is what she tried to do to Travis’ reputation, because that’s a double murder (and doubly premeditated), and just so conniving and evil, that is what will disgust the jury about her the most…

  108. Commerce1
    03/21/2013 at 10:17 pm

    bubblebutts :I don’t know about you but when the Russian/French psychic gets on tv to defend Travis I get the heebie jeebies…

    She usually starts out making credible statements, but then she gets more comfortable as the interview and veers off into crazy. Like when she starts talking about engergy, and such. I’ve seen Dr. Drew cut to commercial very abruptly while she is in mid-sentence because she’s going off into crazy and they need the break to bring her back to a more moderate discussion.

  109. Gigi
    03/21/2013 at 10:19 pm

    Even if she expressed remorse though, given the obvious premeditation it wouldn’t help her. She’s ‘as good as done’, in her words.

  110. Janeto
    03/21/2013 at 10:25 pm

    MMD :
    I’m off for the night. Gotta wind down. I have a dr’s appt in the a.m. which I made them schedule on a Friday! LOL Usually I’m the last appt of the day but I told them I was busy all week except Friday.;-)
    Have fun everyone. See ya all tomorrow. Nite nite *****waves******

    nighty night my “hiney butt” buddy!! Sleep tight, and have a good day tomorrow! I couldn’t help you with your computer as I know nothing about Macs’! 😦 Hey, I need a new hat too! “heavy duty foil”, and I want extra long antennas this time! LOL!

  111. Janeto
    03/21/2013 at 10:34 pm

    Syntara :
    No worries MMD Glad you enjoyed em.
    *waves again*
    byeeeeeeeeee 4 now


    Waves back at ya Syn! Thanks for making us all laugh, and all your theories, comments and things! You r a hoot! take care xoxo – your other “peep”!

  112. Jill
    03/21/2013 at 10:37 pm

    Hi mckealty, sorry about your experience. Glad u had the strength to break away…narcissists have a strong control over people.

  113. Chrissie A
    03/21/2013 at 10:43 pm

    I’m off to see the wizard – have a wonderful night all, I’ll catch up tomorrow – Thanks again Donchais for all that you do for us – virtual hugs to all!

  114. Lisa M
    03/21/2013 at 10:44 pm

    I really hope Jodi is delusional and she hasn’t made a connection with anyone on the jury. It only takes one juror and that’s what they’re banking on.( At this point, probably not banking on; more like praying for. )
    In any case it just goes to show you how “high school” both Jodi and Wilmott are. Psychopaths are immature emotionally and Wilmott is just a dolt.

  115. Janeto
    03/21/2013 at 10:47 pm

    Thanks donchais for the report! Great as usual! MMD, Chrissie, Tracey, Nancy B, Syn, observer, and all others I may have missed, thanks for keeping us laughing, and making alot of us snort our drinks through our noses!! Makes my long days at work go much easier!! There are so many good “peeps” on here, and damn glad to know all of ya!! Sorry, but MMD is correct about her dibbs on JM! I’m an early on witness to that! Everyone needs to take a number, until she slips off the ladder and you can get a rung up on her..But I don’t see her slippin anytime soon! AND she and I had the first set of antennas!!! Now we just need thicker foil hats to keep the BS from giving us migraines!!! I see there are new ones out!! Seniority rules!!! We get dubs first! LOL!!! Barf bags, well,we sure run low on em alot, but we don’t give any away to the JA supporters! Let MR. Paychiatrist BS (Gus2) buy theirs since he’s making $250.00 an hour!!! Oh, and WE can’t see the jury at all on live stream, so hopefully JA doesn’t have one in her pocket!!!! Ta ta for now kids! gotta longer day ahead tomorrow.. I’ll be lurking!! Make me laugh!! xoxo, and virtual hugs!!!

  116. JesusFreak
    03/21/2013 at 10:49 pm

    bubblebutts :
    I don’t know about you but when the Russian/French psychic gets on tv to defend Travis I get the heebie jeebies…

    me, too! does part of the world believe in psychics now?

  117. 03/21/2013 at 10:50 pm

    Hey ya’ll, check your security. I seem to have picked up a nasty virus that has halted my web browsing. Donchais, you may have been hacked,

  118. Tracey A
    03/21/2013 at 11:04 pm

    Janeto: Well said my friend. Had a blast with all of you today. Have a great nite. And I’ll conspire with Syntara when MMD isn’t looking to jump up a rung or two. LOL! Have a great day tomorrow. I might actually be able to have a life and get some housework done (wait, is that a life???) I’m a card carrying member of the “Messy House Club” when court is in session. Take care! {{{{{hugs}}}}}

  119. Trial watcher
    03/21/2013 at 11:13 pm

    I do believe that JVM from HLNtv must have read the quote regarding her yelling all the time.
    I’ve noticed this evening that she has really toned it down. Is it only my imagination or what?
    Today was an awesome day in court. Rock on JM!!!! U need to wrap this all up with a neat bow JM and seal this woman’s fate once and for all!!
    The DP means we’ll only hear about her appeal and that’ll never happen….

  120. Nancy Pennington
    03/21/2013 at 11:14 pm

    Of course you will be sending my new hat COD right?? Hubby thinks he should have one as well. I’m hoping he wants it for this trial and not cuz lives with me. Lol

  121. kristin
    03/21/2013 at 11:25 pm

    Hey Elaine I really was at a beach in Hawaii today. I needed to get a mental health break! However Donchais, can I get my stylish foil cap to look like the hat princess Beatrice wore to Will and Kate’s wedding please??!!! Even if the people trying this case are not reading our comments, I’m willing to bet Travis’s friends and family are. Perhaps reading opinions of the general population gives them a sense of how the jury is feeling and that nobody believes the filthy lies about Travis. God bless us all

  122. NancyB
  123. Anna
    03/21/2013 at 11:41 pm

    Nice photo of Juan Martinez with Katie Wick (from Dr. Drew show):

  124. NancyB
    03/21/2013 at 11:44 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923

    #JodiArias gave the bird FINGER to Dr. Samuels on the stand today. PHOTO pic.twitter.com/uXhsLgc8xE

  125. Douglme
    03/21/2013 at 11:47 pm

    Did anyone watch “After Dark” tonight? They were debating if JA brought the knife or not and after listening to all what they had it makes sense that she very well might have. They said there was no rope at all, that was all bs, and if Travis wanted to cut rope he would have taken the scissors that were in the knife block not a knife. Also if you think about Travis stretching out the rope and then cutting it, he would have had the short end of the rope and the reel would be by the bed…I think she got him to squat in the shower and then stabbed him, and he got out of the shower, coughed in the sink a bit, went down the hall after her and he collapsed at the end of the hall and she took the knife and slashed his throat and then dragged him back to the bathroom and stuffed him in the shower and then put the bullet in his head to make sure he was dead. She did not use the gun first because she wouldn’t know how much noise the gun made and she wanted to do what she had come to do first. I feel sick for the family having to listen to all the bs she is spewing about Travis just to save her own hide. I hope the jury is listening hard and that they use their common sense.

  126. Douglme
    03/21/2013 at 11:52 pm

    NancyB :
    This is an awesome article.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-rubinstein/jodi-arias-ptsd_b_2923593.html?utm_hp_ref=jodi-arias

    Good article! I wondered myself how she could have PTSD if she couldn’t remember the incident? I agree that defence attorneys are using PTSD far too frequently with no real symptom, just going by what the defendant tells them. Thank you for the insight.

  127. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 12:01 am

    Douglme :Did anyone watch “After Dark” tonight? They were debating if JA brought the knife or not and after listening to all what they had it makes sense that she very well might have. They said there was no rope at all, that was all bs, and if Travis wanted to cut rope he would have taken the scissors that were in the knife block not a knife. Also if you think about Travis stretching out the rope and then cutting it, he would have had the short end of the rope and the reel would be by the bed…I think she got him to squat in the shower and then stabbed him, and he got out of the shower, coughed in the sink a bit, went down the hall after her and he collapsed at the end of the hall and she took the knife and slashed his throat and then dragged him back to the bathroom and stuffed him in the shower and then put the bullet in his head to make sure he was dead. She did not use the gun first because she wouldn’t know how much noise the gun made and she wanted to do what she had come to do first. I feel sick for the family having to listen to all the bs she is spewing about Travis just to save her own hide. I hope the jury is listening hard and that they use their common sense.

    Yes, I watched it and found the prosecution argument by Vinnie Politano right on the money. I agree with everything you said except that she got him to SQUAT in the shower and he went down the hallway AFTER HER. The last picture of Travis alive shows him sitting on a seat in the shower. The stab wounds between the shoulder blades, neck and back of the head shows she followed him to the sink and down the hallway stabbing him until he slid down the wall and collapsed and she slit his throat. Twenty nine stab wound in 60 seconds shows she was following him and stabbing constantly

  128. Douglme
    03/22/2013 at 12:04 am

    Observer :

    Douglme :Did anyone watch “After Dark” tonight? They were debating if JA brought the knife or not and after listening to all what they had it makes sense that she very well might have. They said there was no rope at all, that was all bs, and if Travis wanted to cut rope he would have taken the scissors that were in the knife block not a knife. Also if you think about Travis stretching out the rope and then cutting it, he would have had the short end of the rope and the reel would be by the bed…I think she got him to squat in the shower and then stabbed him, and he got out of the shower, coughed in the sink a bit, went down the hall after her and he collapsed at the end of the hall and she took the knife and slashed his throat and then dragged him back to the bathroom and stuffed him in the shower and then put the bullet in his head to make sure he was dead. She did not use the gun first because she wouldn’t know how much noise the gun made and she wanted to do what she had come to do first. I feel sick for the family having to listen to all the bs she is spewing about Travis just to save her own hide. I hope the jury is listening hard and that they use their common sense.

    Yes, I watched it and found the prosecution argument by Vinnie Politano right on the money. I agree with everything you said except that she got him to SQUAT in the shower and he went down the hallway AFTER HER. The last picture of Travis alive shows him sitting on a seat in the shower. The stab wounds between the shoulder blades, neck and back of the head shows she followed him to the sink and down the hallway stabbing him until he slid down the wall and collapsed and she slit his throat. Twenty nine stab wound in 60 seconds shows she was following him and stabbing constantly

    I thought he may have gotten the seven at the sink or there might have been a lot more. Brutal however it happened.

  129. Nancy Pennington
    03/22/2013 at 12:14 am

    Donchais : have you sent JM his new tin foil hat yet? He deserves one more than any of us don’t you agree. If Wingnut and Wormi get jealous we could send them hats also DUNCE HATS!!!!!!

  130. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 12:25 am

    Anna :
    Nice photo of Juan Martinez with Katie Wick (from Dr. Drew show):
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446178988791582&set=a.226325870776896.54624.160510210691796&type=1&theater

    Very nice photo!
    MMD gonna be jealous! (ya better get down there!)

  131. itsafigment
    03/22/2013 at 12:26 am

    OMG…Wingnut was making me crazy! BORING BS! Martinez could barely control himself and I don’t blame him..all day for this moron. Samuels better find another state. Sitting on the east coast is torture! I haven;t seen this many sidebars since OJ. Will be thrilled to be rid of Samuels…if he were my expert.HE WOULDN’T BE! He wouldn;t last 10 minutes in Miami! I wa sooo done by the time JM started I couldn’t take it but did catch after dark, I don;t think she brought the knife but her using it SURE doesn’t make it 2nd degree! Poor Alexander family….how they sit there is beyond me. It is heartbreaking but her family looks like garbage, ugh! Apple doesn;t fall far from the tree!

  132. 03/22/2013 at 12:50 am

    Hey Donchais, I got my foil hat, but there was a two broken antennas, I think it’s the defenses’ hat, I need my Juan Hat 🙂 love you

  133. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 12:52 am

    itsafigment :OMG… I don;t think she brought the knife but her using it SURE doesn’t make it 2nd degree!

    Did you know that when she was arrested they found a 9mm gun and two knives in her second rental car? They weren’t the murder weapon but it shows she travels with knives. She said the knife came from his butcher block but none of the knives in his butcher block were missing and the knives in the house didn’t match the stab wounds.

  134. 03/22/2013 at 1:16 am

    Oh, I see, my foil hat is the Canadian Version, broken antennas :), thanks for my unique Canadiana Barf Bag (used), I mean really Donchais, is that anyway to treat a girl? 🙂

  135. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 1:17 am

    Observer :

    itsafigment :OMG… I don;t
    think she brought the knife but her using it SURE doesn’t make it 2nd degree!

    Did you know that when she was arrested they found a 9mm gun and two knives in her second rental car? They weren’t the murder weapon but it shows she travels with knives. She said the knife came from his butcher block but none of the knives in his butcher block were missing and the knives in the house didn’t match the stab wounds.

    Hey, Jodi had to buy a new gun. She was going camping with a bunch of strange men!

  136. 03/22/2013 at 1:25 am

    I think George Anthony killed Travis, hey it worked once New barf bag received, thanks Donchais (waving to everyone) goodnight from Canada I still want a hat WITH antennas 🙂

  137. 03/22/2013 at 1:34 am

    the bullet landed ON TOP of the blood, which means, he bled first, then was shot, UNLESS, typically you bleed, then shot 🙂 just saying, so she sliced him up, stabbed him mercilessly, then shot him, and dragged his body to the shower What a cold blooded killer she is, just like Casey Anthony

  138. 03/22/2013 at 2:22 am

    Mckealty :
    Juan asking Samuels if he performed a memory eval on the prosecutor was classic.

    Haha oh it so was!!! 😀

  139. 03/22/2013 at 3:03 am

    The Knife

    Observer :

    itsafigment :OMG… I don;t think she brought the knife but her using it SURE doesn’t make it 2nd degree!

    Did you know that when she was arrested they found a 9mm gun and two knives in her second rental car? They weren’t the murder weapon but it shows she travels with knives. She said the knife came from his butcher block but none of the knives in his butcher block were missing and the knives in the house didn’t match the stab wounds.

    The main point about the knife is it had to be really and I mean REALLY sharp. To penetrate his skull for example, not to mention the chest wound. Even more particularly the gaping throat wound. This could not have been a normal knife you find laying around your house.

    That throat wound is almost surgical in nature when it comes to the way the wound opened and the incredible depth of it. It had to have been somewhere around scalpel sharp. She had to have brought it with her because you don’t just find knives that can do that laying around the average house.

    Very few of the wounds, if any, appear to show hesitation marks or tearing, they all appear to be clean, deep slicing penetrations. Look at the defense wounds on his hands, look the are extremely deep and viscious looking. Defense wounds are usually far more superficial in nature than these. Travis’ hands show what looks more like gouging wounds there really isn”t anything that can be called superficial about them apart from not alone being fatal, obviously,

    No, this is NOT an ordinary knife. The forensic nature of the wounds speak volumes and to me show beyond reasonable doubt the knife was brought to that house for this reason and this reason only I’m afraid.

  140. 03/22/2013 at 3:07 am

    By the way Mum…. I’m awake again : P

  141. 03/22/2013 at 3:15 am

    Nancy Pennington :
    Donchais : If Wingnut and Wormi get jealous we could send them hats also DUNCE HATS!!!!!!

    Hahahahaha!!! Love it with the dunce hats…

    Extra one as a gift for Dr Dimwit naturally?

  142. 03/22/2013 at 3:32 am

    To all you wannabes…. Listen up. Hands off Juan baby! There will no jumping his bones or any other part of him… Except by me and me alone! I claimed him on his first question, just because I wasn’t here doesn’t mean the claim is any less valid. He asked what I wanted him to and I thought wow this guy is gooooooooood!

    Just cos Im in Oz doesnt mean I cant buy a plane ticket ya know! – bit far for the broom scared it might crash into the ocean cos it’s a bit hard to hang on to when I’m asleep! Once wet it does’t fly that well. Anyhow I digress….

    Just keep your mitts of my man, ya hear??????!!!!!!!!!

  143. 03/22/2013 at 3:42 am

    Chrissie A :
    I’m off to see the wizard –

    – The wonderful wizard of Oz… Lalalaalalallaaaaaa

  144. 03/22/2013 at 5:39 am

    Grace been reading your explanatory posts from yesterday.

    haha omg they actually have made ‘selective amnesia’ a real criteria???.. I’ve used it since I was a kid as a joke for convenient memory ie deliberate memory lapses. I had no idea it had now been legitimised. Waaaa They stole the fun out of it. That’s so annoying.

  145. Lisa M
    03/22/2013 at 6:36 am

    I had a dream last night that Jodi Arias was trying to kill me. I need a mental health break from this trial!

  146. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:37 am

    Kimmy :
    Oh yay I got my official greeting from you MMD! When can I get my foil hat? Now I feel a part of the group. I’ve been following and following this forum and damn I am mad at WillNOT now! I was so hoping JM could get in his cross before poor Jodi had to be done by 4:30. I love all you guys and your wonderful insight. Never even knew of this case until an ABC article on the internet in January then found this site. Syntara and Chrissie A you guys rock as you do MMD!

    Ah, so you have been lurking all along and have seen my welcome before. 😉 I’m so glad you finally decided to join us. I lurked for the longest time before I commented because some of the comments on other sites, not necessarily about this topic, were just down right scary! I’m so glad that I did get brave enough because this is such an awesome blog and donchais is a passionate advocate for victims! She also protects us from all the trolls that are out there and God knows, there are tons. Truly it is only the way to get through this trial while maintaining some semblance of sanity.

    Donchais and the others have provided humor when it’s needed while still firmly keeping the focus on the fact that this trial is about justice for Travis and his family and not the JA show, as much as JA would like it to be.

    If you have been lurking then you know that there is a vast range in ages, life experiences as well as even countries. Donchais truly has a global site here and I’m still thrilled every day that I found it.

    I think I said one day that it felt like we had all died and gone to donchais heaven, complete with her recap, humor, and it was like it came with chocolate sauce and a cherry on top! And I feel that each day when I see a new recap. Obviously though, Kimmy, if you’ve been lurking then you know all this and I’m preaching to the choir!

    So jump right in. I know I did and to their dismay, they haven’t been able to shut be down since!!! 🙂

  147. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:52 am

    katz63md :
    Hi all. Did I miss something? I thought court was dark today so I missed the entire thing. I kept looking at my laptop all day wishing I could watch the trial, miny withdrawal! Anyway, thank you Donchais for getting me caught up. Would have loved to have heard the jury questions. Glad though that I didn’t have to sit through W and the DR.
    Have a good weekend everyone! I’ll be lurking through the comments throughout the weekend.

    Sorry you missed yesterday but the decision was made at the end of court on Wed. Anyway, check out Syntara’s comments yesterday. She was posting all the juror questions plus the answers (if Dr. Quack had actually told the truth). It’s really hilarious. I’m pretty sure that the jury isn’t buying what he’s selling!

    BTW, the court schedule was announced for next week and it will be dark Thursday afternoon, Friday and Monday. The exact times are in the comments yesterday. I don’t want you to miss any more, especially since it’s hard to actually find any testiphony in between breaks, sidebars, days off…………………

    Have a great weekend katz!

  148. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:02 am

    Chrissie A :

    NancyB :
    So glad that the family stood their ground and refused to remove the blue ribbons

    They did? I thought that they had to remove them – I’m pleased too – as it seems the evil one thinks she is running the courtroom.

    I’m glad they stood their ground too. I think is was the spectators who were also wearing ribbons in support had to take their’s off. Sorry Chrissie, my bad!

  149. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:05 am

    bubblebutts :
    I don’t know about you but when the Russian/French psychic gets on tv to defend Travis I get the heebie jeebies…

    Yeah she does the same to me! I don’t know why she is even on Dr. Drew???

  150. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:19 am

    Tracey A :
    And I’ll conspire with Syntara when MMD isn’t looking to jump up a rung or two. LOL! Have a I might actually be able to have a life and get some housework done (wait, is that a life???) I’m a card carrying member of the “Messy House Club” when court is in session.

    Got my eye on you 2 darlin’ and I think that Janet does as well so don’t get any ideas. She’s one of my peeps and you never know what we are up too. 🙂

    BTW, I haven’t accomplished a damn thing since this trial started. Even if there isn’t court, I’m on here, I’m actually sleeping, dreaming, and really getting myself in a frenzy since this all started. I actually haven’t had a good night’s sleep around the middle of January, courtesy of JA and her team. Thank God I get to vent on here!

  151. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:26 am

    Mckealty :
    As far as NPD goes, I was married to one and am currently in the process of divorcing one after a pretty nasty domestic violence episode. Jodi reminds me very much of my wife.

    Sorry you had to go through that not only once but twice. It seems we all have our horror stories on here.

    I just decided after what I went through in my marriage, which thankfully I managed to get out fairly quickly, that I’m simply not a good “picker” so I haven’t gone through it again. I replaced my hubby with a dog (my first pet bigger than a turtle) and have never regretted it. I do admit though, that even with lots of therapy, that marriage still affects me so many years later.

  152. 03/22/2013 at 7:39 am

    MMD check out Syntara’s comments yesterday. She was posting all the juror questions plus the answers

    Seriously you flatter me. By no means did I get them all I lost it a numer of times, worst was when he alluded to her having a PD .. Took me a bit to get back on track….But yeah the rest I fumbled my way through but there are a number of glaring omissions through time restrictions.

  153. 03/22/2013 at 7:42 am

    Mckealty :
    As far as NPD goes, I was married to one and am currently in the process of divorcing one after a pretty nasty domestic violence episode. Jodi reminds me very much of my wife.

    She would. All psychopaths are narcissists. It comes with the disorder.However NPD alone does not make one a psychopath. If that makes any sense.

  154. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:43 am

    Anna :
    Nice photo of Juan Martinez with Katie Wick (from Dr. Drew show):
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446178988791582&set=a.226325870776896.54624.160510210691796&type=1&theater

    Thank you so much Anna. I downloaded the photo of JM and may just make him my screensaver he is so awesome. 🙂 Nice to see the smile on his face! I would have emailed myself the link but since my email is so completely wonky I am not even going to open it until I have to call my service provider (which takes either serious drugs or chocolate to work up to) 😦

  155. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:46 am

    Had another storm last night and once again most things are on delayed opening or closed. Sure hope my dr isn’t closed because I need migraine meds. 😦

  156. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:47 am

    Plus if they reschedule my appt it will probably be on a court day and we all know I can’t have that!!!!

  157. 03/22/2013 at 7:52 am

    MMD:
    which takes either serious drugs or chocolate to work up to

    *offers MMD a chocolate lindt bunny*

  158. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:56 am

    Douglme :
    Did anyone watch “After Dark” tonight? They were debating if JA brought the knife or not and after listening to all what they had it makes sense that she very well might have. They said there was no rope at all, that was all bs, and if Travis wanted to cut rope he would have taken the scissors that were in the knife block not a knife. Also if you think about Travis stretching out the rope and then cutting it, he would have had the short end of the rope and the reel would be by the bed…I think she got him to squat in the shower and then stabbed him, and he got out of the shower, coughed in the sink a bit, went down the hall after her and he collapsed at the end of the hall and she took the knife and slashed his throat and then dragged him back to the bathroom and stuffed him in the shower and then put the bullet in his head to make sure he was dead. She did not use the gun first because she wouldn’t know how much noise the gun made and she wanted to do what she had come to do first. I feel sick for the family having to listen to all the bs she is spewing about Travis just to save her own hide. I hope the jury is listening hard and that they use their common sense.

    I didn’t watch it but it never occurred to me that she didn’t bring the knife and the gun. I think the rope is all bs as well. As for the sequence of events, what you said has always been my personal theory. I think when JA kept saying “he wouldn’t stop”, that was probably truthful because he may have been still twitching even though he was already dead and that’s why she shot him. I also believe that she took a shower standing over him to clean over the blood on both of them, maybe in some ritualistic idea she had in her head or just for convenience. Truly a sick, sick mind!

    I also hate that the family has to listen to this crap in court every day as the defense continues to torture them. I just hope they realize the support, love and prayers that are being sent to them from around the world and it helps them somewhat.

  159. 03/22/2013 at 7:56 am

    MMD;
    Sure hope my dr isn’t closed because I need migraine meds.

    😦 Rest up you!

  160. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:58 am

    Marilyn N :

    Anna :
    Nice photo of Juan Martinez with Katie Wick (from Dr. Drew show):
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446178988791582&set=a.226325870776896.54624.160510210691796&type=1&theater

    Very nice photo!
    MMD gonna be jealous! (ya better get down there!)

    Already got the photo downloaded and saved. He’s gonna be my new screensaver 🙂

  161. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:02 am

    Shirley Pare :
    Oh, I see, my foil hat is the Canadian Version, broken antennas , thanks for my unique Canadiana Barf Bag (used), I mean really Donchais, is that anyway to treat a girl?

    OMG too funny Shirley. Since I’m in Canada I hope mine doesn’t arrive with broken antennas. After all, we just upgraded the trademark on the new antennas when the hats were thickened! 🙂

  162. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:05 am

    Syntara :
    MMD check out Syntara’s comments yesterday. She was posting all the juror questions plus the answers
    Seriously you flatter me. By no means did I get them all I lost it a numer of times, worst was when he alluded to her having a PD .. Took me a bit to get back on track….But yeah the rest I fumbled my way through but there are a number of glaring omissions through time restrictions.

    It was the quality of the answers that mattered, not the quantity 🙂 So how much sleep did you actually get darlin’?????????

  163. 03/22/2013 at 8:08 am

    Anna:
    Nice photo of Juan Martinez

    He is such a genuinely sincere man I hope some crazy nutjob Arias supporter doesn’t try to kill him. I fear for him actually.

  164. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:10 am

    Syntara :
    To all you wannabes…. Listen up. Hands off Juan baby! There will no jumping his bones or any other part of him… Except by me and me alone! I claimed him on his first question, just because I wasn’t here doesn’t mean the claim is any less valid. He asked what I wanted him to and I thought wow this guy is gooooooooood!
    Just cos Im in Oz doesnt mean I cant buy a plane ticket ya know! – bit far for the broom scared it might crash into the ocean cos it’s a bit hard to hang on to when I’m asleep! Once wet it does’t fly that well. Anyhow I digress….
    Just keep your mitts of my man, ya hear??????!!!!!!!!!

    In your dreams darlin’, in your dreams!!!!! 🙂

  165. 03/22/2013 at 8:13 am

    MMD:
    In your dreams darlin’, in your dreams!!!!!

    Them’s fitghtin’ words lady!!!

  166. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:15 am

    Syntara :
    Anna:
    Nice photo of Juan Martinez
    He is such a genuinely sincere man I hope some crazy nutjob Arias supporter doesn’t try to kill him. I fear for him actually.

    Yeah me to Syn! I asked that question yesterday, especially since the Colorado Prison Chief was killed when he opened his front door on Tuesday. It’s a really scary word out there and there is so much violence. I’m so glad I live in Canada where’s it not as bad.

  167. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:17 am

    Syntara :
    MMD:
    In your dreams darlin’, in your dreams!!!!!
    Them’s fitghtin’ words lady!!!

    I MEAN’T them to be!!! So be careful 😦

  168. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:19 am

    Syntara :
    MMD:
    which takes either serious drugs or chocolate to work up to
    *offers MMD a chocolate lindt bunny*

    Thank you – I hope it is solid chocolate but I’m still keeping my eye on you. 🙂

  169. 03/22/2013 at 8:26 am

    Donchais I want to sincerely thank you for keeping this site sane. Your vetting brings a quality that is very rare indeed. You know the tone and objectivity you want to reflect and it clearly shows. You are a rare person indeed. Thank you for the privilege to join you. I appreciate it greatly.

  170. 03/22/2013 at 8:28 am

    MMD:
    I MEAN’T them to be!!! So be careful

    Pffffffft I ain’t scared!

  171. 03/22/2013 at 8:35 am

    MMD:
    Yeah me to Syn! I asked that question yesterday, especially since the Colorado Prison Chief was killed when he opened his front door on Tuesday. It’s a really scary word out there and there is so much violence. I’m so glad I live in Canada where’s it not as bad.

    Oh MMD I didn’t see that post of yours… And it happening to the police chief… Oh no my fear is sooo heightened now. Ditto – sooooo glad I live in Oz!

  172. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:59 am

    Syntara :
    MMD:
    Yeah me to Syn! I asked that question yesterday, especially since the Colorado Prison Chief was killed when he opened his front door on Tuesday. It’s a really scary word out there and there is so much violence. I’m so glad I live in Canada where’s it not as bad.
    Oh MMD I didn’t see that post of yours… And it happening to the police chief… Oh no my fear is sooo heightened now. Ditto – sooooo glad I live in Oz!

    No it was the Chief of the Colorado Prison system, not police chief. Pay attention darlin’ – I know you get all excited talking about JM 🙂 I even wonder about the defense team (as bad as they are) if they are concerned about their security? After all there are a lot of crazies out their and passions are running really high with this trial!!!!

  173. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:59 am

    correction – out there

  174. 03/22/2013 at 9:02 am

    MMD
    coeection – out there

    mwhwhahahahah poetic justice???? 😀

  175. 03/22/2013 at 9:03 am

    rofl coeection… wtf Im keeping my mouth shut!

  176. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:09 am

    Syntara :
    rofl coeection… wtf Im keeping my mouth shut!

    🙂 we make a great pair ROFL

  177. 03/22/2013 at 9:11 am

    I’m not so worried about the defense… the really crazies are on their side. Not that I’m saying there is no risk, not by a long shit but it’s way less than the prosecutors.

    I mean Arias is innocent’ site supposedly being mirrored to look like it’s from Pakistan – no more needs said that’s out there… waaaaay out there. That’s not accidental that’s deliberately inflammatory.

  178. 03/22/2013 at 9:12 am

    Im about to recap the jury Questions to Dr Doofus von Dimwit aka Dr Dodgy. How obsessed am I? mwmwwhahahahaha

  179. 03/22/2013 at 9:15 am

    rofl!!! shot not shit! Doh!! I’m so shutting up now!

  180. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:20 am

    Syntara :
    rofl!!! shot not shit! Doh!! I’m so shutting up now!

    please don’t – you have me in hysterics and I need the comic relief!

  181. ritanita
    03/22/2013 at 9:22 am

    Good morning, everyone. I agree with Donchais that yesterday was one in which to put all sharp objects at a distance.

    The good news was that we were left with a wonderful cliff-hanger to ponder over the week-end. Martinez started with the test scoring on cross when the dr. “forgot” key documents on his desk.

    From the first time Martinez brought up the test scoring, my hinkey meter went all the way to the red side and has remained there throughout this ordeal. Willmott has been very nervous and has asked to approach numerous times to tie this all up.

    The dr. even wanted to take home materials marked into evidence over the weekend! What? He especially wanted that 3-hole punched sheet.

    Monday is going to be a mind-buster! And a dr. buster!

    BTW, dr. here is small in deference to my dear nephew who is also a PhD, in mathematics. He was well-published in peer-reviewed journals long before he got his degree and continues to write scholarly papers and present at nation-wide meetings.

    This dr., when Googled, doesn’t show up at all, except for his sleazy ad. His CV to the court was pretty sparse on details.

  182. 03/22/2013 at 9:23 am

    Pffft Im not here for your ridicule ya know! I know how much you are loving me msking a total idiot out of myself. PPDT is getting sooooooo much worse – sheesh!!

  183. 03/22/2013 at 9:28 am

    ok Dr Doofus von Dimwit aka Dr Dodgy aka Gus2 aka Dr Wanker aka etc etc just said the natural instinct is to flee BUT you can choose to fight if the circumstances are there to do so.

    Well ok Dr Doofus von Dimwit aka Dr Dodgy aka Gus2 aka Dr Wanker aka etc how exactly does that gel with your brain freeze idea.. so the brain freeze idea is only the momentary natural tendency to flee? aaaah I thought so… thank you, IDIOT!

  184. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:29 am

    Syntara :
    Pffft Im not here for your ridicule ya know! I know how much you are loving me msking a total idiot out of myself. PPDT is getting sooooooo much worse – sheesh!!

    It’s not ridicule darlin’, I’m laughing WITH you!!!! Always!!!! Everyone has days like this. Please don’t go down the rabbit hole. 🙂

  185. 03/22/2013 at 9:31 am

    MMD
    I’m laughing WITH you

    LOL! I know ya are sweet stuff! just messin’ with ya!

  186. 03/22/2013 at 9:38 am

    Seriously…. this guy (Dr Dog ate my thesis) is like 120 yrs old yet he bases everything on theory… what the hell has he done with his life… read textbooks does he not have any of his own experience to draw from??? He needs to get out of is pigsty of an office and LIVE to find out about human nature ffs!!! I know… Carl Jung teached me that!!!

  187. 03/22/2013 at 9:43 am

    OK he is doing the dinosaurs caused JA’s PTSD now and ascertaining the fact her story core stayed the same but the details changed therefore it must be truth… see this is about where one phases to the Mad Hatters Tea Party.

  188. 03/22/2013 at 9:53 am

    Good morning Ritanita.

    Dr Dog Ate My Thesis is an idiot. He is proving it in this courtroom in front of our eyes. Beyond a reasonable doubt for me within a very short time on the first day and it’s still going down hill. That’s why I’m down the rabbit hole at the mad hatters tea party… it’s gone so far down hill I’ve had to tunnel underground to keep up with it.

  189. 03/22/2013 at 9:57 am

    it’s gone so far down hill I’ve had to tunnel underground to keep up with it. let me clarify that

    it’s gone so far down hill I’ve had to tunnel underground to an alternative reality to keep up with it.

  190. donchais
    03/22/2013 at 9:59 am

    Bwaahahahaha

    See how stylish?

  191. 03/22/2013 at 10:02 am

    Donchais what are you talking about? am I thick or something?

    • janeto
      03/22/2013 at 10:20 am

      @SYN- I missed that too! ROFLMAO! We r both thick!!!

  192. 03/22/2013 at 10:03 am

    Roflmao !!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah too freaking funny!!!

  193. 03/22/2013 at 10:06 am

    took a bit for it to appear to me…. omfg that is absolutely hilarious! It needs a patent!

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 10:10 am

      SYN That was my fault, messed up the code and had to redo it. Glad you enjoyed.

  194. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:12 am

    OMG donchais – ROFL – you have truly outdone yourself and I see what an improvement it is to the old thinner ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 I must say you do look ravishing in it!!!!!!!! Are you going to appear in the commercials??????????????????????????

  195. 03/22/2013 at 10:13 am

    Way to go Juan….didn’t get to see the cross, but read it on this site. Finally, being able to shut up Dr. Verbose and Ms. Wilma. BTW, just signed up this morning to this site….it’s awesome. Gives me hope that justice will be served and put jodi in prison LWOP.

  196. 03/22/2013 at 10:14 am

    Thank you Donchais for your insight!! 🙂

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 10:15 am

      md6953 Welcome to the looney bin!

      • janeto
        03/22/2013 at 10:25 am

        @ms6953- MMD is ou r welcoming committee!! Welcome!!

  197. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:14 am

    It kinds reminds me of the old show My Favourite Martian!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 the pose is priceless, simply priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 10:16 am

      MMD No idea who she is, but it is a fetching pose, lol!

  198. 03/22/2013 at 10:19 am

    what? He said if it’s premeditated there would probably be no extra adrenaline? How can anyone prepare for their first murder? How can that not elevate adrenaline? Granted the more murders someone has done the adrenaline would be lowered which is why serial killers progress in the horrors of their murders.. ie first the straight murder might satisfy them… as they murder more they might introduce torture cos the straight murder no longer gives them the rush they had at first.

    This particular murder is so horrendous, the rage generated indicates an extremely high level of adrenaline would result…. wth is he talking about? blah blah blah is about to set in. He is ostensibly saying she was able to commit this act cooly without raising her adrenaline level? That makes it worse you MORON!

    siiiiigh… further down the rabbit with the queen of hearts… off with his head stage!

  199. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:19 am

    Welcome md6953. If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez.

    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger! Another bonus that donchais provides free of charge is that on days when there isn’t trial scheduled, she keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. Truly a public service in itself, although a great deal of online shopping does occur!

    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy!

    It really is a great group of people from around the world and everyone is so supportive of each other. Quite a few of us started out very computer illiterate!

    BTW, we have all joined Syntara down the rabbit hole and don’t forget to get your tin foil hat complete with antennas – revised edition!!! as shown above 🙂

  200. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:22 am

    donchais :
    MMD No idea who she is, but it is a fetching pose, lol!

    Damn, so those aren’t the original, honest to goodness, genuine foil hats???? I’m so disappointed 😦

    On our style let’s forego the balls at the top or make them smaller, whatcha think about that?

  201. 03/22/2013 at 10:23 am

    Donchais:
    SYN That was my fault, messed up the code and had to redo it. Glad you enjoyed.

    I didn’t just enjoy it I loved it… thank you so much.. reviewing Dr NoNothing was doing my head in the comic relief was sooooooo timely!

  202. 03/22/2013 at 10:25 am

    Hi there md6953 🙂

  203. 03/22/2013 at 10:27 am

    The family had to remove their pins with photos of Travis, but were allowed to keep the ribbons. The non-family trial watchers had to remove their ribbons. Most courtrooms do not allow family or court watchers to wear any type of memorabilia. It’s just unusual that after so many weeks of this trial, that this week the DT chose to object to them wearing them. Rumor has it that it has to do with Jodi getting caught sneaking a note to her mamma through the mitigation specialist, and also shuffling that yellow folder and taking things.

  204. 03/22/2013 at 10:27 am

    hahahahaha Grace someone asked about selective amnesia and he said it is not an official Dx I wonder if that question was actually TIC? I’m suspecting it may have been.

  205. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:29 am

    janeto :
    @ms6953- MMD is ou r welcoming committee!! Welcome!!

    Yep but I’m speaking for everyone even though they haven’t even given me permission 🙂 After all it is donchais site, not mine. She simply grants us the privilege of being here, if we behave!

  206. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:32 am

    missjocool :
    The family had to remove their pins with photos of Travis, but were allowed to keep the ribbons. The non-family trial watchers had to remove their ribbons. Most courtrooms do not allow family or court watchers to wear any type of memorabilia. It’s just unusual that after so many weeks of this trial, that this week the DT chose to object to them wearing them. Rumor has it that it has to do with Jodi getting caught sneaking a note to her mamma through the mitigation specialist, and also shuffling that yellow folder and taking things.

    That wouldn’t surprise me. Bet JA figured nobody was gonna see that! As if!!! (as the kids would say) Plus the defense is so sleazy that nothing they do would surprise me!

  207. GN5020
    03/22/2013 at 10:36 am

    Two thoughts —

    First, Dr. Quack indicated if the murder was premeditated there would possibly, but not probably be a big adrenaline rush. Stabbing someone 29 times and slitting their throat shouts “adrenaline rush” because her PLAN was coming to its climax.

    Secondly, Dr. Quack opened the door for JM to ask about his “non-specific personality disorder” diagnosis. Did he find criteria for anti-social personality disorder? Narcissistic personailty disorder? Borderline personality disorder? Or all of the above?

  208. 03/22/2013 at 10:38 am

    Missjocool:
    Rumor has it that it has to do with Jodi getting caught sneaking a note to her mamma through the mitigation specialist, and also shuffling that yellow folder and taking things.

    Sort of a tit for tat thing? Since she got caught how come the Alexander family members are wearing the ribbons?

  209. 03/22/2013 at 10:42 am

    GN 5020:

    Secondly, Dr. Quack opened the door for JM to ask about his “non-specific personality disorder” diagnosis. Did he find criteria for anti-social personality disorder? Narcissistic personailty disorder? Borderline personality disorder? Or all of the above?

    All of the above =

    Q “Is she a raging freaking psychopath?”

    A. Yes!

  210. 03/22/2013 at 10:43 am

    Apparently it was ok for them to wear ribbons, but not photos of Travis are allowed in the courtroom.

  211. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:44 am

    Donchais, on a serious note before I head off to the dr – I haven’t received one email confirmation of comments, no notice about the new post, and haven’t rec’d a renew my options request. Did you stop them?

    Or is my email, well I’m using webmail, completely f**ked because I haven’t rec’d a single email at all????????? 😦 If it is my email, I’ll be eating that chocolate bunny that syntara so kindly gave me!

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 10:46 am

      MMD I didn’t stop or change anything…grab that chocolate bunny, quick!

  212. 03/22/2013 at 10:44 am

    Q So if she is a raging freaking psychopath is any of your testimony relevant?

    A. No

  213. 03/22/2013 at 10:48 am

    MMD The ears are practically solid the rest not. But it’s plenty believe me! GL!

  214. 03/22/2013 at 10:50 am

    Of course she created an alternate reality that’s commonly known as Gaslighting…

    . waaaa should I be doing this???

    Does this guy know anything???? ?

  215. Rache
    03/22/2013 at 10:50 am

    donchais :
    md6953 Welcome to the looney bin!

    Absolutely love the photo!

  216. ritanita
    03/22/2013 at 10:51 am

    Non-family supporters had to remove their ribbons. Check to see if there are any elephants in attendance Monday!

  217. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 10:52 am

    I spent hours reading the comments & reportage since the start of this blog and thank you.
    I simply have to jump in! I promise after this intro to only stay on topic of day. Am American in Europe. Have been to many trials – some famous-and have watched a fair number on TV. I tuned in on this one when I read that the defendant was going to take the stand. Hours later a friend couldn’t understand why I was blabbering about our “insane” and “stupid” sysytem that permits something as agonizing to watch as the defendant and her lawyer on direct.
    I told him that this lumbering oaf talked as if he had to weigh every syllable since each was so heavy. It was like he was trying to explain an element of atomic splitting to a group of
    seniors. When you realize he’s leaving room for trucks to drive through his phrases, but he’s just asking about the dating habits of some young people, you cringe in anger at the waste of time.I simply got too riled to watch, so I had to poke in and out and wait or the cross.

    I think the Judge should have called a sidebar, told everyone that they were all adults and you better talk like one and if not I’ll read your questions for you. She does not have control of the courtroom; the system has control. If one saw the trials of, say, Spector or Dr. Murray, you saw judges in full control of the courtroom. With OJ, another judge without control. I think too much has been allowed in as “evidence.” I also read that in Germany they have done away with the jury as we know it system. They have professional jurors on every case, members of public added but not in majority.I wonder whether we might need such someday.

    But of course, I most embrace this site because I have been rejuvenated by the Juanderfull prosecutor!My favorite Juantastic moments?. When he got the defendant to talk of injuring her finger the night of the murder. When she realized it, she tried to backtrack, but he had her twice mention the connection. The second – and great one – was the presentation of the gas slips from Salt Lake City on her last day.. It made all the dodges and smartass answers worth it;he got her, fair , square, deer in headlight and it was a thing of beauty to watch.

    Okay. SSound off over. Thanks for endulgence.

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 11:08 am

      Welcome Robert, you made so good points, thanks!

  218. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 10:55 am

    donchais :
    MMD I didn’t stop or change anything…grab that chocolate bunny, quick!
    MMD The ears are practically solid the rest not. But it’s plenty believe me! GL!

    Well sh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😦 Combine that with a dr’s appt today and I may as well have just stayed in bed!!!!!!!

    signed
    not a happy camper 😦

  219. 03/22/2013 at 10:55 am

    he noticed her flat affect so he suspected she was lying….. hello!! on cross with JM did she not show flat affect when she calmly challenged “I don’t know that his throat was slit” either then?

    Ergo by your own standings Dr Dimwit, does that not tell you she is STILL lying?

    gaaaaaaahhhhhhhh wtf!!! I’m down at the mad hatters tea party again… * bottoms up*

  220. 03/22/2013 at 10:56 am

    ritanita :Non-family supporters had to remove their ribbons. Check to see if there are any elephants in attendance Monday!

    🙂 I’m a member of that thread too 🙂

  221. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 11:06 am

    missjocool :

    ritanita :Non-family supporters had to remove their ribbons. Check to see if there are any elephants in attendance Monday!

    I’m a member of that thread too

    Are you guys two timing us on another site!!! 😦

  222. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 11:15 am

    Welcome Robert. If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez.

    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger! Another bonus that donchais provides free of charge is that on days when there isn’t trial scheduled, she keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. Truly a public service in itself, although a great deal of online shopping does occur!

    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy!

    It really is a great group of people from around the world and everyone is so supportive of each other and now we have another country to add to the list.

    BTW, we have all joined Syntara down the rabbit hole and don’t forget to get your tin foil hat complete with antennas – revised edition!!! as shown above 🙂

  223. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 11:17 am

    Robert in Rotterdam :
    I promise after this intro to only stay on topic of day.

    Well, Robert you would be the only one! There are some days that we are all over the place and cover pretty much everything and anything!!! 🙂

  224. 03/22/2013 at 11:17 am

    Robert…

    Re: The judge

    I haven’t watched any other trials but my gut instinct agrees with you. I just put it down to failing in the US Justice system but that is probably out of total ignorance of the ‘norms’.

    Re: The almost condescending way Wormi asked his questions

    In total agreement; it was like he was talking to a bunch of 6 year olds.

  225. 03/22/2013 at 11:24 am

    Does anyone else notice the really friendly interactions between JW and JA? I really thing Wilmott really likes her. It’s amazing how even after what she has done she can still seduce an attorney.

    It’s such a shame so little is known about this disorder I pray for the day to arise when it’s common knowledge so more people are aware of what they are dealing with.

  226. 03/22/2013 at 11:25 am

    Observer~ you are so versed I would like to ask; do you know/feel if Ryan Burns & or Matt McCartney will show up in court? Also is Alyce Laviolette the DV expert the last witness for the defense?

  227. ritanita
    03/22/2013 at 11:33 am

    MMD :

    missjocool :

    ritanita :Non-family supporters had to remove their ribbons. Check to see if there are any elephants in attendance Monday!

    I’m a member of that thread too

    Are you guys two timing us on another site!!!

    Ask Donchais, I am the ultimate multi-tasker!

  228. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 11:43 am

    Vickee :Observer~ you are so versed I would like to ask; do you know/feel if Ryan Burns & or Matt McCartney will show up in court? Also is Alyce Laviolette the DV expert the last witness for the defense?

    Ryans Byrns testified for the state in the case in chief. I don’t think the defense will call Matt McCartney since Juan Martinez has threatened him with perjury if he lies for her again. Matt forged pedophile letters and testified they were true and the court threw them out a few years ago. Martinez also introduced into evidence a message Jodi failed to smuggle out of jail to Matt McCartney trying to get him to lie for her. I don’t pay much attention to the defense witnesses.

    I am just waiting for the state’s rebuttal case and Martinez’s closing argument, the guilty verdict and the death sentence.

  229. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 11:45 am

    MMD :
    Had another storm last night and once again most things are on delayed opening or
    closed. Sure hope my dr isn’t closed because I need migraine meds.

    Can’t believe how early you chatters get started on here!
    Anyway, MMD, how often do you get those migraines? Seems I’ve been waking up
    with a mild migraine-like headache every morning lately. It has to be Jodi’s hex! haha
    (what med do you prefer?)
    & are you in Canada where it is storming so much?

    Possibly I need to request a foil hat??

    Thanks!

  230. 03/22/2013 at 11:46 am

    Observer:
    Matt forged pedophile letters and testified they were true and the court threw them out a few years ago

    Holy cow! seriously? could this case get any worse? Are there any links online to these letters? That’s absolutely stunning! Did he ever explain his actions or any of the surrounding circumstances?

  231. Nancy Pennington
    03/22/2013 at 11:47 am

    Question???would someone plez give me a clue as to what “ffs” means ?? I thought I was pretty hep(teehee) knowing what OMG,WTF,ROFL,LOL,LMAO,WTH means but this has me stumped. Also, I don’t need the extra large balls on my new antennas as I am AN assertive woman and have my own.
    Keep that in mind if you plan to laugh at me for being dense about “ffs”.

  232. 03/22/2013 at 11:50 am

    sorry my fault it’s not very polite so I apologise for using it.

  233. 03/22/2013 at 11:52 am

    let’s just say: “For Freak’s sake”

  234. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 11:52 am

    Off Topic – Did anyone follow the Michael Peterson staircase trial back in 2003?
    He is now out of prison on house arrest awaiting his appeals for a new trial or
    a dismissal. That was a good one.

    I remember watching the documentary about it called “The Staircase” and his family and defense team would
    sit around at night watching the court tv’s (at the time) jabber.
    So they probably do watch the shows.

  235. 03/22/2013 at 11:54 am

    omg he’s out of prison NO WAY!! That’s so wrong!

  236. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 11:54 am

    RE: Ryan Burns……. I did some googling on him. He is now married and appears
    he and his wife are a PPL team and doing quite well.

  237. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 12:01 pm

    Robert In Rotterdam: You are not alone in getting all riled up! I am re-riled just reading your
    post.

    I must go take my morning bath and get de-riled……….

  238. 03/22/2013 at 12:10 pm

    MMD~
    DR Syn~. You two are beyond comic relief. So enjoy the bantering and you both are so quick. I am so impressed. If you two keep it up I will not have to do housework :~)

  239. Nancy Pennington
    03/22/2013 at 12:11 pm

    Syntara: thanks for the explanation. Silly me not to have figured it out for myself. I like it so ffs carry on. LOL

  240. 03/22/2013 at 12:14 pm

    MMD~ You have my permission cause you have the best welcoming speech I have ever heard!!!!’

    • janeto
      03/22/2013 at 1:57 pm

      @Vickee. That’s the truth!! MMD has always had my permission! Best welcome speech around!!

  241. 03/22/2013 at 12:16 pm

    “Jodi Arias Psychologist Admits PTSD Diagnosis Could Be Wrong” – (could? lol)

    http://global.christianpost.com/news/jodi-arias-psychologist-admits-ptsd-diagnosis-could-be-wrong-video-92305/

    “The psychologist was meant to be one of the defense’s biggest stars”

    rofl? really? REALLY?? down the rabbit hole again *bottoms up* (I’ll be blind drunk soon!)

  242. 03/22/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Nancy P
    ” Syntara: thanks for the explanation. Silly me not to have figured it out for myself. I like it so ffs carry on. LOL”

    😀 I’m sure it’ll slip out again in one of my exasperated moments so thank you for your understanding.

  243. 03/22/2013 at 12:27 pm

    Observer~ thank you and I am of the same mind set.

  244. 03/22/2013 at 12:37 pm

    For anyone not clear on what the guilting is in FOG and how gaslighting works to send you crazy ie what Jodi would have done to Travis. Here is an actual example.

    See if this helps you get a feel for it. This is complete crap it’s pure manipulation to get the target to feel guilty enough to contact him.

    “Day 2” (of what I have no idea)

    I am down and cant get out of bed this is really my second day laying in bed and sleeping mostly, I guess about 2/3 of the time i am asleep and going to go back after this, cant see a reason to be up simply useless and hopeless.. I can only have myself to thank for this so way to go me.”

    In reality he has been out screwing the new girlfriend but he sends this to try to suck the target back in. If you don’t know any better you feel sorry for him and contact him. Then he has you where he wants you again. It’s a mind game he is playing with his prey.

    It’s so manipulative and controlling yet on the surface so heart wrenching. See how it works?

  245. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 12:40 pm

    Syntara :Observer:Matt forged pedophile letters and testified they were true and the court threw them out a few years ago
    Holy cow! seriously? could this case get any worse? Are there any links online to these letters? That’s absolutely stunning! Did he ever explain his actions or any of the surrounding circumstances?

    Jodi’s mother tried to sell the letters to the National Enquirer. They wouldn’t even publish them because they know they are bogus. The state expert proved they were forgeries. Matt of course denied forging them. He just testified he knew they were true. He claimed he threw the originals away and presented the court with copies. Courts only accept originals.

  246. NancyB
  247. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 12:53 pm

    Syntara :
    Observer:
    Matt forged pedophile letters and testified they were true and the court threw them out a
    few years ago

    Holy cow! seriously? could this case get any worse? Are there any links online to these letters? That’s absolutely stunning! Did he ever explain his actions or any of the surrounding circumstances?

    There were supposedly 10 letters and no none of been released but Mamma Arias made a concerted effort to sell them to The N’tl Enquirer who turned her down. There are documents from Juan prior to the closed hearing that I don’t have time to look for now. Have to get my hair cut. I’ll post the link for you later!

  248. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 12:54 pm

    Thks Observer had not seen your post. 🙂

  249. PK
    03/22/2013 at 12:55 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Jill :
    Hi, Does anyone know why jodi was smiling towards the jury as they went to recess earlier today
    , and then whispering to her attorney to look at the jury leaving? and then the attorney looked and smiled too? Ty.

    Hi Jill – From the reports I’ve heard it seems that she thinks she has a “Juror Buddy” but maybe the juror is playing her – lol

    Or even better yet, her “Juror Buddy” will not be included in the 12 who will decide her fate and no way will she know that until the 12 return with the verdict with no “Buddy” in sight. 😦

  250. 03/22/2013 at 12:57 pm

    thanks heaps observer and NancyB… NancyB a link would be great if it’s not too much trouble later. Hope you love the new ‘do.

  251. 03/22/2013 at 1:02 pm

    I cant believe Juan baby was so prepared he even had a couple of definitions from the websters dictionary on hand to whip out when Dr Dodgy tried to squirm out of the compassion questions. How freakin amazing is that and how totally polar opposite to Dr Dodgy’s preparation?

  252. 03/22/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Has anyone read this book he gave her? Does that book mention FOG?

  253. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Syntara :
    Has anyone read this book he gave her? Does that book mention FOG?

    I believe the book is Your Erroneous Zones by Wayne Dyer from 1991.
    I read it way back. Just reviewed it on Amazon. It is basically a “think positive” book and
    from what Jodi said, that was her belief system she followed from the book, The Secret.
    So it was nothing new for her.

  254. 03/22/2013 at 1:35 pm

    Dr. Syn~ have not read the book, but the author, is, I believe a Dr Dyer. He is on our PBS (public broadcasting station) here in the valley. I have never watched him. Figured I would hear him say I ought to change my life and I have neither the time (years) nor inclination to do so. I now know I have all of you to leep me on the straight and narrow. Besides what would he think if he knew I knew someone who goes (LMAO) ‘down the rabbit hole with the mad hatter?

  255. 03/22/2013 at 1:36 pm

    Syn~ correction keep

  256. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 1:36 pm

    OK – so I just went on my husbands computer to snoop on the JA Innocent site.
    Here is just a bit of what they are excited about from yesterday:
    (by the way, I first went on their site under my name and got blacked out on husbands computer, then re-entered on my hubby’s log in. So far they haven’t 86ed me from that).

    Here it is:

    Martinez: losing the jury, the plot and the trial…
    March 22, 2013 By SJ – Team Jodi 49 Comments

    .
    Yesterday afternoon, we were treated yet again to another piss poor showboating display of prosecutorial cluelessness by Martinez. In full knowledge that he lost this case a long while ago… and not withstanding his antics with the camera, the autopsy picture stunt and his deliberate withholding of evidence from the defense… his revised strategy now appears to be based around a Wayne Dyer self-help book and the meaning of the word “compassion” (as defined by Websters dictionary).
    He also proceeded (again) to question Dr Richard Samuels’ memory problems and his ethics. I think the only person in this scenario with memory issues & ethical problems is Martinez himself… right?

    But in the midst of all this, whatever happened to Martinez trying to prove his BS-riddled & overcharged pre meditated murder & felony murder charges in this trial?
    For Martinez, that has now become a major issue.
    And it’s an issue because it AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN.
    He’s lost the jury… he’s lost the plot… and he’s lost the trial. Plain & simple.
    Here’s a quote from Vladimir Gagic’s excellent post last week:

  257. 03/22/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Marilyn

    Yes I too think that’s the book I was looking at some of the text on the free amazon ‘inside’ pages.

  258. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 1:40 pm

    Keeping my fingers crossed that my computer doesn’t blow up from snooping……

  259. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 1:42 pm

    EVAN:

    I was very confused with the numerous sexual references in the book. Sometimes it seems mildly inappropriate, and other times it just outright catches you off guard. This occurs mostly toward the beginning of the book. One incident in particular occurs in chapter 2. In regards to leaning how to love yourself, Dyer suggests standing nude in front of a mirror, exploring yourself sensually, with the aim of achieving “goose-bumps of shivery pleasure.” I haven’t read other self-help books. Maybe this is a common theme? I sure didn’t see it coming…..
    The overlying theme that I could not overlook is essentially this: your personal happiness and fulfillment are paramount to everything else. Never feel bad. Even at a funeral, show no negative emotion. Compassion is a waste of present moment time where you could be feeling happy. If you don’t like something, don’t do it. It does not matter what anyone else thinks, or who it affects for the worse.

    (this is from amazon review of book)

  260. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 1:44 pm

    james hawkins

    It’s just an inflated, egotistical world view, and Dyer even acknowledges to disregard people who call you selfish for it.After reading “Your Erroneous Zones” I think I felt more confused than settled. I was left with a background “noise” that said that the book, itself, was somewhat erroneous to me. Then I read “Pulling Your Own Strings” by Dyer, which made me more suspicious of Dyer’s approach.
    For example, in the book, it seems that if your child goes running around a restaurant bugging people, it’s OK and it is their own fault for “Feeling” bugged. In other words, it always seems that, with Dyer, our feelings are invalid, especially if they’re negative. I found this very troubling.

    (also on amazon)

  261. 03/22/2013 at 1:47 pm

    Marilyn isn’t it amazing how those people are so vividly diametrically opposite to this way of thinking. It does my head in trying to figure them out. I can understand psychopaths but I can’t understand people like that.

    If anyone can help me out on it please do because seriously, I’m totally clueless on it.

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 1:53 pm

      Syntara One of those trolls tried to get through last nite and called me ‘thought police’ for not allowing the comments through! Well, duh!!!

  262. 03/22/2013 at 1:49 pm

    Vickee:
    Besides what would he think if he knew I knew someone who goes (LMAO) ‘down the rabbit hole with the mad hatter?

    Probably ask what kind of drugs you are on.

  263. 03/22/2013 at 1:50 pm

    Marilyn fingers crossed with the puter!

  264. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 1:51 pm

    “Compassion is a waste of present moment time where you could be feeling happy”

    Don’t you love this sentence after Dr Wacko’s use of the word. THIS is the book the neutral observer gives to the woman jailed for a vicious murder. I guess she shouldn’t “feel bad”about slicing up poor Travis; that would be our fault for “feeling”This clown set back psychology in the eyes of the public for a few decades.

  265. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 1:55 pm

    Syntara :
    Marilyn fingers crossed with the puter!

    Thanx, Syn!!

  266. 03/22/2013 at 1:57 pm

    Robert:

    “Compassion is a waste of present moment time where you could be feeling happy”

    wth is that a quote from the book he gave her????????

    This clown set back psychology in the eyes of the public for a few decades.

    Oh Robert that is spot on. It seems he has not progressed since the 1970’s. Which is when he graduated I think.

  267. JJBS
    03/22/2013 at 1:58 pm

    Wow!!! I love this site!! Glad to see there are so many who feels exactly as I do about this trial!! I read on a blog Martinez referred to as “The Shredder”. And that he is. Love his style. He’s the only voice left for Travis. My heart goes out to the family.

  268. 03/22/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Donchais:

    Thought police hahahhahahahahahaha! We live in Orwellian times baby! You hang in there girl so in awe of you!

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 2:01 pm

      It’s about justice for Travis and his family and no troll will ever take that away!

  269. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Syntara:
    That is a line from a review but other people mention similar themes in their review of the b ook.Maybe not a direct quote but the “gist”of the message. Also this one:

    By Anna Katerine “oracle1” (Denver, CO) – See all my reviews
    This review is from: Your Erroneous Zones (Mass Market Paperback)

    I read this book in the 1970’s when it first came out, and revisited it again recently. To me the over-arching themes are: do whatever you want, compassion is for saps, you can create everything you want in your life, think only of yourself.

  270. 03/22/2013 at 2:04 pm

    donchais :
    It’s about justice for Travis and his family and no troll will ever take that away!

    Amen to that. Prayers to his family.

  271. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Hummmmmm…… DIdn’t Dr. DIck say he was had compassion for JA? So I guess he is a sap!!

  272. 03/22/2013 at 2:08 pm

    Robert~ thanks for the info on the book. WTH that just gives her more confirmation that what she did / is was ok? No wonder her self esteem proved. I bet Wonderful Juan knows about the book and maybe that is why he pounded Doozie about it. I may be off base and if so please correct me!!!

  273. 03/22/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Robert:
    I read this book in the 1970′s when it first came out, and revisited it again recently. To me the over-arching themes are: do whatever you want, compassion is for saps, you can create everything you want in your life, think only of yourself.

    OMG OMG He gave that to a psychopath??? OK it gets even worse. That is so much worse than incompetence that’s practically giving her permission to do it again. That’s negligence.

    You are right Dr Dodgy just graduated to Dr Whacko. That’s unbelievable!

  274. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 2:14 pm

    What institution gave Dr Fog his doctorate? Anyone know? If I were them, I’d deny it.

  275. 03/22/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Oh Juan baby has read it by now – he would know exactly what it says. That’s exactly why he is making a big issue of it.. the gift factor is merely a smokescreen. Go Juan Baby you are a genius!!

  276. 03/22/2013 at 2:14 pm

    A weeties packet.

  277. 03/22/2013 at 2:17 pm

    but seriously Robert.. I don’t know haven’t had tome to research his bio too many other things to put together but that it a good question and Ive been saying where did he get it his doctorate from a weeties packet for a while now.

    I also suggested he brought it from Phat Pong road in Thailand.

  278. 03/22/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Watching Juan last nite, hubby thought he was maybe a little over the top, he got the look and is now in fear for his life. Had to explain Samuels to him. Make no mistake he thinks JA should get the DP and wonders what is taking them so long to ge to it.

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 2:19 pm

      Vickee umm, errr, uhhh…the AZ legal system!

  279. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 2:20 pm

    Alex Ferrar, one of the few legal analysts, I trust said on HLN After Dark last night he believes Jodi brought the knife and gun with the intention of killing Travis. He said Jodi used the knife because Jodi wanted to act out her rage and stabbing him 29 times shows that. I agree with him.

    I’ve always believed she brought the gun and the knife because knives are quick and she could surprise him with the knife and she wanted him to see her rage and feel the pain she felt, whereas a gun could jam or he could take the gun away from her if he saw it. She stabbed him first in the heart with the intention of either killing him or rendering him helpless so she could keep stabbing. The more he screamed in pain as she plunged the knife in him, the more power she got.

    When she stabbed him through the heart she wanted him to feel the pain she felt when he was going on dates to find a wife rather than marrying her. When the first stab wound didn’t kill him, she kept stabbing until he collapsed on the floor and she slit his throat and dragged him back to the sink where she shot him in the head either to make sure he was dead or to make it look like two intruders killed him.

  280. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Syntara :

    Chrissie A :
    I’m off to see the wizard –

    – The wonderful wizard of Oz… Lalalaalalallaaaaaa

    Whew! That dayam wizard must have knocked me out!

    Why do my Fridays seem like Saturdays now? This trial has totally re-arranged my schedule 🙂

    Here is a link to the JA/Juror fiasco – (I’m not sure what to make of it, thoughts? Maybe it’s one of those situations where you had to “be there”)

  281. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 2:24 pm

    ” In regards to leaning how to love yourself, Dyer suggests standing nude in front of a mirror, exploring yourself sensually, with the aim of achieving “goose-bumps of shivery pleasure.””

    When I read that line-from the book the moron expert gave the killer – I thought of when he said on the stand he “considered the crime scene” when making his evaluation,.He gives this to the woman who stabbed Travis in front of a mirror.

    I pray that Senor Juantastic uses just a line or two before he packs his ass in a sausage on exit.

  282. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 2:24 pm

    donchais :
    alt=”Bwaahahahaha”>
    See how stylish?

    Love it!!! Those antennas look like great bs defenders- lol

  283. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 2:24 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    What institution gave Dr Fog his doctorate? Anyone know? If I were them, I’d deny it.

    Here is Dr Quack’s website: http://svpexpertwitness.com/evaluations.asp

  284. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 2:27 pm

    donchais :
    Syntara One of those trolls tried to get through last nite and called me ‘thought police’ for not allowing the comments through! Well, duh!!!

    They are not aware of the powers of the new and improved mighty tin foil hat – thanks for saving us from them!

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 2:28 pm

      Chrissie A 🙂

  285. 03/22/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Observer: “She stabbed in the heart

    Yes and he was supposed to die in the shower… the whole killing is filled with symbology. The psycho scene pics, the knife, the throat slit.

    What thwarted her plan was Travis and Travis alone. He surprised her by fighting so hard for his life, he complete stuffed up her neat little plans. That is why this court case is so important. He deserves to win! He is the reason the evidence was left and he alone.

    She hates more than anything to lose. It’s the only thing that matters to her, nothing else. Her whole life is devoted to winning at all costs.s.

    Travis’ fight continues, make no mistake about it.

    I pray he wins, oh how I pray he wins.

  286. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 2:32 pm

    Syntara :
    Observer:
    Matt forged pedophile letters and testified they were true and the court threw them out a few years ago
    Holy cow! seriously? could this case get any worse? Are there any links online to these letters? That’s absolutely stunning! Did he ever explain his actions or any of the surrounding circumstances?

    Hi Sweetpea, No, I think they are under seal, but here is the motion regarding them:

    http://twitdoc.com/view.asp?id=87950&sid=1VV2&ext=PDF&lcl=JA-Forged-Letters.pdf&usr=zou2&doc=131073659&key=key-1ki5ktzu5xr8tpa2341t

  287. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/22/2013 at 2:32 pm

    Syntara: The Wack dr

    EDUCATION
    New Jersey Medical School, Department of Obstetrics & Gynecology
    Newark, New Jersey
    Post-Doctoral Fellow in Human Sexuality, 1974-1975

    City University of New York
    Biopsychology, Ph.D., 1973

    Hofstra University

    Psychology, M.A., 1967

    Hofstra University
    Psychology, B.A., 1965

    So he was CUNY; They should be hiding a bit in shame. However- he was last educated in the 1970’s. And it shows big time.

  288. 03/22/2013 at 2:36 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    ” In regards to leaning how to love yourself, Dyer suggests standing nude in front of a mirror, exploring yourself sensually, with the aim of achieving “goose-bumps of shivery pleasure.””
    When I read that line-from the book the moron expert gave the killer – I thought of when he said on the stand he “considered the crime scene” when making his evaluation,.He gives this to the woman who stabbed Travis in front of a mirror.
    I pray that Senor Juantastic uses just a line or two before he packs his ass in a sausage on exit.

    Robert, I am so glad you are here! This is just awesome info. Awesome in a terrifying, headshaking way.

    It also makes me think of when he said to Juan baby that it made a difference if there were 20 ninjas rather than 2, but no difference if it was her that did it.

    Whaaaaaat. what what?? Did he see those injuries.. did he see that crime scene? did he even look at what she did?

    It makes no difference if she is capable of that but it makes a difference if there were 20 ninjas rather than 2?????

  289. 03/22/2013 at 2:38 pm

    Robert

    He has a doctorate in human sexuality??? Am I reading that right? wth!

  290. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/22/2013 at 2:39 pm

    Hello All…..as I mentioned late yesterday our little group didn’t get online until I got back from Jury Duty but from what I heard from the ol’ hens in my group it was SOS (Same ol Shit!). See we know some initials too from out generation! Anyway we got online just in time to hear JM. He was Juan-derful Juan-derful!! I must tell you though….this is hilarious…..can’t leave these ol’ ladies on their own for one minute!! One of them had a hair appointment and didn’t want to go because she would miss the trial so she cancelled it. No problem there….ok…we’re all hooked to this madness! But what did she do while the trial was on (and I was gone)…she gets one of the other ol’ hens to cut her hair while they watch the trial!!! OMG!! She now looks like someone cut her hair with a push mower!! I was laughing sooooo hard it’s a good thing the bathroom was just steps away!! Geeezzzzz…..you should have heard us…we were laughing soooo hard! The rest of us asked her…”why didn’t you just re-schedule your appointment to Friday when there is no court?!” All she could say was….”oh we didn’t even think about that….this Psycho is screwing with our minds!” OMG….what an afternoon we had yesterday! There’s no fixing that haircut…..she’ll have to stay in the house for 6 months!

    I got up early this morning to read through the blogs….I am soooo glad I didn’t have to listen to JW and Elmer Fudd bore everyone to death! Good recap Donchais and thanks to everyone for your comments and updates. Love the links…..some are hilarious….especially the one of Nancy Grace!! Oh….laughing hard again….old lady off running for the bathroom again!! This is torture on old ladies ya know!!….but keep em coming!! We have to stay strong for the Alexanders!! GO JM!!

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 2:43 pm

      Ci Ci’s Circle you guys are too funny and we love having you here!

  291. 03/22/2013 at 2:40 pm

    oh biopsychology… post doctoral fellow in human sexuality

    biopsychology. basically a meaningless doctorate at this point anyhow.

  292. 03/22/2013 at 2:42 pm

    Robert – meaningless in that not enough is definitively known about memory for it to be anything much more than guess work at the moment

  293. 03/22/2013 at 2:43 pm

    hello chrissie girl by the way good to see you and as for the routine….oh lordy tell me about it!!

  294. 03/22/2013 at 2:45 pm

    grr gotta go to my imc to view Chrissies vid again.

  295. 03/22/2013 at 2:51 pm

    Grace Now ther’s an illustration of cognitive dissonance in the extreme

    Dr Whacko able to reconcile 20 ninjas attacking her and Travis is worse than her killing him.

    … and he says he has no feelings for her… puhlease he’s in love with her!!!

  296. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 2:54 pm

    Syntara :
    Robert
    He has a doctorate in human sexuality??? Am I reading that right? wth!

    And that is why he has a “special relationship” with the killer queen – expert sexpert! I’ll like to listen to his taped interviews with her and do a jello shot everytime “Anal” is mentioned – that would be for some good times, although I think I would be with the wizard.sooner than later.

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 2:57 pm

      Chrissie A Major snort, lol!

  297. LindaLou
    03/22/2013 at 2:54 pm

    Hi folks, only my second day on this site. Didn’t realize you continue with your posts when court is not in session. Anyhow, after reading a lot of your posts, it’s obvious you guys are a lot smarter than I. Can someone pleeeas tell me why Dr. Hippocampus’s testimony is even necessary? His ramblings have to do with her state of mind AFTER she killed Travis. How does it prove self defense? If he is just there to explain the FOG; as a juror, I would not really care that she couldn’t remember. The facts are; she killed him, she admitted it, it sure does appear pre-meditated from the evidence, so she hangs, right?

    • donchais
      03/22/2013 at 2:58 pm

      LindaLou Seems to me you got it nailed already!

  298. 03/22/2013 at 2:58 pm

    Chrissie Re vid. Yeah I saw that interchange, even made reference to it earlier but apart from her and wilmott showing their cosiness Im not sure anything else can be read into it unless you know something specific to look for … well I can’t see anything more than that from it. Hopefully someone else picks up more.

  299. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Syntara :
    grr gotta go to my imc to view Chrissies vid again.

    Sorry for that – I don’t understand why Apple won’t link you to youtube, Can you go to a stand alone browser on it and paste in the link?

  300. Laine
    03/22/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Hey Guys take a look at this video, and then think about JA. The superior texts she sends Travis when he is mad at her, the territorial actions….so many other traits!

  301. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 3:01 pm

    Syntara :Observer: “She stabbed in the heart
    Yes and he was supposed to die in the shower… the whole killing is filled with symbology. The psycho scene pics, the knife, the throat slit.
    What thwarted her plan was Travis and Travis alone. He surprised her by fighting so hard for his life, he complete stuffed up her neat little plans. That is why this court case is so important. He deserves to win! He is the reason the evidence was left and he alone.
    She hates more than anything to lose. It’s the only thing that matters to her, nothing else. Her whole life is devoted to winning at all costs.s.
    Travis’ fight continues, make no mistake about it.
    I pray he wins, oh how I pray he wins.

    Amen. Good post.

  302. 03/22/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Chrissie
    expert sexpert! I’ll like to listen to his taped interviews with her

    (the rest Im not touching thats too gross to even contemplate!!!)

    I’d love to hear his interviews… I reckon they are in the washing machine.

  303. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 3:06 pm

    OK I’m back. What did I miss in a nutshell? ****waves to all*****

  304. Nancy Pennington
    03/22/2013 at 3:08 pm

    C CC: you guys are a kick in the pants. My are slightly damp now after reading about your friends haircut. Thanks for the needed humor.

  305. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 3:09 pm

    ritanita :

    MMD :

    missjocool :

    ritanita :Non-family supporters had to remove their ribbons. Check to see if there are any elephants in attendance Monday!

    I’m a member of that thread too

    Are you guys two timing us on another site!!!

    Ask Donchais, I am the ultimate multi-tasker!

    Well donchais – ritanita told me to ask you??????????

  306. 03/22/2013 at 3:12 pm

    Chrissie: Is that Sam Vaknin? If so watch Watch “I psychopath” It’s a doco an aussie done with him. Robert Hare lauds it. It’s chilling how he treats his wife in it. Hang on I’ll throw in a link.

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=i+psychopath+youtube&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari part 1 of 8 …. all parts on you tube.

  307. Laine
    03/22/2013 at 3:13 pm

    Observer :

    Syntara :Observer: “She stabbed in the heartYes and he was supposed to die in the shower… the whole killing is filled with symbology. The psycho scene pics, the knife, the throat slit.What thwarted her plan was Travis and Travis alone. He surprised her by fighting so hard for his life, he complete stuffed up her neat little plans. That is why this court case is so important. He deserves to win! He is the reason the evidence was left and he alone.She hates more than anything to lose. It’s the only thing that matters to her, nothing else. Her whole life is devoted to winning at all costs.s.Travis’ fight continues, make no mistake about it.I pray he wins, oh how I pray he wins.

    Amen. Good post.

    Absolutely spot on. I pray also that he wins because if he wins he saves more lives. I hope he’s waiting for her when she is put to death with a smile on his face as he waves her into hell.

  308. Nienna
    03/22/2013 at 3:16 pm

    Was looking for the released video of the full police interrogation and somehow ended up on Jodi is Innocent page! The comments are disgusting and I am now going to vomit!

  309. 03/22/2013 at 3:17 pm

    MMD

    1) me rabbiting on about crap as usual for one.
    2) Robert with some amazing info on Jodi’s erroneous zones.
    3) cicis hilarity as usual

  310. 03/22/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Nienna:

    *hands barf bag* use this

  311. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 3:21 pm

    Laine :
    Hey Guys take a look at this video, and then think about JA. The superior texts she sends Travis when he is mad at her, the territorial actions….so many other traits!

    Hi Laine! Thanks for this he’s the type of witness needed in this case!

    This may have been posted before, but it is worth another looksee, Chris Stark points out so
    many of her characteristics in this summary:

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/lajr3t

  312. 03/22/2013 at 3:22 pm

    Laine all psychopaths are narcissists. It comes with the disorder so naturally she has those traits. Her lack of empathy, flat affect and lack of remorse are what push her into the psychopath category. Watch that vid I posted that link to yesterday. Where Robert Hare steps through the diagnosis. He’s diagnosing a corporation (which is not ideal) but just listen to the characteristics he clearly and succinctly steps through. Did you see that link I posted?

    If not I’ll re-post it. Its a 10 min vid

  313. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 3:23 pm
  314. 03/22/2013 at 3:24 pm

    Great blog! 🙂 Love your commentary ha! As a fellow blogger, I also blog daily (snarky editorial-esque) about the trial. I don’t quite have your following 🙂 but for me, it’s all about spreading the word that Jodi Arias is a big fat liar and honoring Travis’ memory. Justice for Travis!

  315. Nienna
    03/22/2013 at 3:24 pm

    Syntara :
    Nienna:
    *hands barf bag* use this

    I’m seriously nauseous! The nerve of some people. How could you even complain about TA’s sisters rolling their eyes (quietly, out of view) and not be morally offended by JA’s mother. Her daily joking and laughter because it’s hillarious that your daughter killed someone in the fashion that she did (whether you believe it to be self defense or not!) and is standing trial while you sit 3 feet from the people who have been devasted and forever changed! Have some human decency!!! Mind you this is the same daughter who says you beat and traumatized her and caused this to happen.

    SORRY Donchais – I’m just so disgusted and needed to vent!

  316. 03/22/2013 at 3:29 pm

    Laine Here:

    Dr Robert Hare, author of the PCL-R used worlwide to diagnose psychopathy on a scaled gradient.

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ui9C6xVpVf0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dui9C6xVpVf0

    Step through this inserting what you know of jodi instead of his explanation of corporation traits and see what you think.

  317. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 3:30 pm

    Here is what Clqncy Talbott, a beautiful blond friend of Travis Alexander told Nancy Grace about her encounters with Jodi Arias.

    GRACE: It turns out, yes, it turns out that you were in a prepaid legal event. You had a couple of glasses of wine or something. And from what I understand felt tipsy, and Travis helped you stand up or walk to your seat or wherever you were going, and that was the extent of your interaction, although you two were friends. Were you confronted about that by Jodi Arias?

    TALBOT: I was. And she was jealous of all of his friends, male or female, but especially females. And the next day she actually managed to get me in a restroom. I`m on the executive director floor, where there is thousands of women using one restroom. She got me in there by myself. Which, I still don`t know how that is possible.

    GRACE: Just be glad she didn`t have a knife.

    (LAUGHTER)

    TALBOT: Yes, looking back on it, it was a lot more creepy than I thought it was at the time. But I mean, I never had a good feeling about her anyway, so it was very awkward to be in the restroom with her confronting me.

    GRACE: What did she say?

    TALBOT: She told me that Travis and her were an item and that he is basically hers, to make sure that I knew that. I told her Travis was like my little brother, really didn`t know what her issue was. And she wouldn`t really let me leave. She was kind of blocking the doorway. And then one of my friends came back in that was waiting outside and wanted to know what was going on, and that is how I actually left, got to leave the restroom, because she wasn`t going to let me leave until she was done saying what she was saying. So now looking back on it, it`s just scary.

    GRACE: How do you compare her demeanor with you in the bathroom when she confronted you? You are yet another woman that she confronted in a jealous rage. How do you compare her demeanor that time to what you are seeing on the stand?

    TALBOT: She is not someone with low self-esteem. She is not someone that is not confrontational. She can hold her own when she is upset. I mean, you know, I was wondering, you know, what she was going to do when I was in the restroom. I think it`s an act, what she is doing right now. And she is a very good manipulator, very good.

    GRACE: You saw Arias in Utah after the murder, correct?

    TALBOT: Yes. Before we knew he was murdered. She came here that very next day. And we were expecting her the day before. And she was talking with Ryan Burns. And you know, we were all wondering where she was at. And we were sitting at dinner at about 11:30 at night. She called and told him that she got lost, she ran out of gas, her phone died, she lost her charger. Just all kinds of strange things. And she came the next day. She walked up. She had dark hair, long sleeve shirts on in 90 to 100 degree weather. She came up, gave me a hug, which she already gave me the creeps before this point, so that was not very comfortable for me.

    And then when we went to dinner after our event, I noticed she had Band-Aides all over her fingers. And it was just really strange because she would try to go to events, like leadership events that you had to actually qualify to go to. And we were going on one the next day, we were going four-wheeling (ph), and she said she couldn`t go, she needed to get back to go to work. So she left the restaurant kind of early for the meeting after the meeting. And she actually went to Ryan`s house and stayed there until about 3:30 in the morning. So speculating now, I look back and think that she just did not want to be here thinking that Travis was going to be found that next day, and did not want to be with us when that happened.

    GRACE: Did you observe an incident when Jodi showed up uninvited to Travis Alexander`s home?

    TALBOT: Yes. We had an event in Arizona. And I was staying at Travis`s house with about 30 other people. One of my girlfriends and I were staying in his room. He was staying in his office. He told Jodi that there wasn`t room for her, and it was probably about three months after they had met. And they weren`t official. And she showed up there and announced to everyone that was there, about 30 people, that she introduced herself and said she was Travis`s girlfriend. And Travis said in front of everyone, no, she is not my girlfriend, we went on a couple of dates. Because he had another girl there that he was dating. And told her in front of everyone, you know, there is not room for you here. I will see you tomorrow at the event. And she ended up sleeping under his Christmas tree. So, just strange. She actually testified that she slept on the couch there and was holding his hand. And he was in his office. He slept in his office, she slept under the Christmas tree, and Travis wasn`t under the tree with her, so.

  318. Laine
    03/22/2013 at 3:34 pm

    Syntara :Laine all psychopaths are narcissists. It comes with the disorder so naturally she has those traits. Her lack of empathy, flat affect and lack of remorse are what push her into the psychopath category. Watch that vid I posted that link to yesterday. Where Robert Hare steps through the diagnosis. He’s diagnosing a corporation (which is not ideal) but just listen to the characteristics he clearly and succinctly steps through. Did you see that link I posted?
    If not I’ll re-post it. Its a 10 min vid

    I find it chilling Syntara. I missed your link I’m getting over 200 notifications a day now and have to try to catch up lol I don’t often get on during the day because of work so thankfully it’s the weekend and I can try to catch up on everyones posts. I did spot your link for Chrissie above so I will settle down with that tonight! Thanks for posting these links it helps lay people like me to keep up! If you need any legal pharmaceutical artwork looked at I’m ya girl!lol but most of this I’m learning as I go along! So your posts and links are wonderful 🙂

  319. 03/22/2013 at 3:37 pm

    no worries Laine.. reposted the link for you…#326 today.

  320. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 3:45 pm

    Syntara :
    no worries Laine.. reposted the link for you…#326 today.

    Syntara :
    no worries Laine.. reposted the link for you…#326 today.

    Thanks, I’ll also be catching up on the vids later today – I find this all so fascinating – Syn you are a gem 😉

  321. Re
    03/22/2013 at 3:47 pm

    MMD :
    Donchais, on a serious note before I head off to the dr – I haven’t received one email confirmation of comments, no notice about the new post, and haven’t rec’d a renew my options request. Did you stop them?
    Or is my email, well I’m using webmail, completely f**ked because I haven’t rec’d a single email at all????????? If it is my email, I’ll be eating that chocolate bunny that syntara so kindly gave me!

    MMD – i second that. i didn’t received either.

  322. Laine
    03/22/2013 at 3:55 pm

    Syntara :no worries Laine.. reposted the link for you…#326 today.

    Thanks Syntara, much appreciated 🙂

  323. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 3:55 pm

    Marilyn N :
    <Can’t believe how early you chatters get started on here!
    Anyway, MMD, how often do you get those migraines? Seems I’ve been waking up
    with a mild migraine-like headache every morning lately. It has to be Jodi’s hex! haha
    (what med do you prefer?)
    & are you in Canada where it is storming so much?
    Possibly I need to request a foil hat??
    Thanks!

    Well considering I woke up at 2 am I thought I showed considerable restraint before I got on here LOL. As for migraines, well I know my triggers so I stay away from them but the ones that I can’t control are barometric change and stress, As for the weather, yep I’m way in the east of Canada in the ADT time zone which is an hour later than ET which this site is. We also have one more time zone NDT but it is only 1/2 hour later. We are fortunate in that any weather that hits Ontario/Quebec or comes up the Eastern Seaboard of the US usually converges and we get a double hit. 😦

    As for the medication I prefer, it is called Fiorinal C 1/2 which is a combo of 50 mg butabital, 330 mg aspirin, 50 mg caffeine and 30 mg codeine. I have a dr however who doesn’t particularly like this med so I am limited to 15 a month which is more than enough during some months and no where close on a bad month. And between the weather and how worked up I get over this trial, I have been having a heck of a time. Feb. was a particularly bad month. Mostly you have to get the meds in quickly along with some gravol (or in the U.S, Dramamine), take something to sleep and sleep it off or else you end up having it for days or at the hospital getting a shot of demerol. Wouldn’t wish them on my worse enemy but I would wish them on JA, Wurmi, Willnott and Dr. Quack! That’s why when JA said she had a migraine, any one who has ever had one, totally knew she was faking it!!!

    Personally I think I should sue the entire defense group for pain and suffering! Anybody want to start a class action suit?????

    As for the foil hat, they are new and improved and much thicker so that we don’t have to absorb as much crap. I found it was leaking through the old ones. I’m pretty sure that donchais has already sent out by courier the new ones to everyone so you should be getting yours any time now.

    Any other questions, since I’m on a roll here????? 🙂

  324. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 3:56 pm

    Syntara :
    expert sexpert! I’ll like to listen to his taped interviews with her
    (the rest Im not touching thats too gross to even contemplate!!!)

    Jello shot drinking games for word repetitions – I think the all time record holder is how many times Pacino said the F word in Scarface,

    I’d love to hear his interviews… I reckon they are in the washing machine.

    I’m sure they will definitely need to cleansed – now that I’m actually thinking about it, I am getting grossed out – barf bag stat! lol

  325. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 3:58 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD
    1) me rabbiting on about crap as usual for one.
    2) Robert with some amazing info on Jodi’s erroneous zones.
    3) cicis hilarity as usual

    Thank you darlin’. I’m here just admiring my photo of JM and trying to get caught up on comments. 🙂

  326. 03/22/2013 at 4:02 pm

    Hi all….I understand that court starts next Monday – 3/25 but am confused about the reminder of the week and the week of April 1…..please clarify. Thank you. 🙂

  327. 03/22/2013 at 4:03 pm

    Early… pffft it was well into my afternoon!! 😀

  328. 03/22/2013 at 4:03 pm

    Plus, I’m not sure how to post to other comments. Best….

  329. 03/22/2013 at 4:04 pm

    Chrissie…… oooooohhhh ok Im not even saying what I thought the jello shots were suffices to say eeeeeeeeewww!!!

  330. 03/22/2013 at 4:08 pm

    MMD Did you miss my post re class action of PPDT with Jan baby as our attorney?

    by the way.. just unpacked my life size blow up Juan Baby Doll and he’s asleep in my lap.

  331. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:10 pm

    NancyB :
    This is FUNNY!
    https://twitter.com/stark3923/status/314920387483930624/photo/1

    Chris Stark is a wealth of information. That photo is too funny because that was kinda how I was feeling but I truly hope that the jury caught it. She really thinks she can get away with everything without any consequences. Disgusting! Needs to cease existing on this earth!

  332. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:10 pm

    MMD :

    Tracey A :
    And I’ll conspire with Syntara when MMD isn’t looking to jump up a rung or two. LOL! Have a I might actually be able to have a life and get some housework done (wait, is that a life???) I’m a card carrying member of the “Messy House Club” when court is in session.

    Got my eye on you 2 darlin’ and I think that Janet does as well so don’t get any ideas. She’s one of my peeps and you never know what we are up too.
    BTW, I haven’t accomplished a damn thing since this trial started. Even if there isn’t court, I’m on here, I’m actually sleeping, dreaming, and really getting myself in a frenzy since this all started. I actually haven’t had a good night’s sleep around the middle of January, courtesy of JA and her team. Thank God I get to vent on here!

    MMD – Damn! I’m so busted! However, just remember ladies. I’m much closer to Phoenix than you all are. And, if I throw my gas cans (which I always carry with me) I won’t even have to stop for gas! LMAO!!! Cuz we all know that gas is much cheaper in AZ than CA!!!

  333. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 4:11 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie…… oooooohhhh ok Im not even saying what I thought the jello shots were suffices to say eeeeeeeeewww!!!

    Aw bugger it let’s talk Oz – Jelly made with part water part booze of your choice – use with caution or you’ll feel like a dingo’s arse – lol

  334. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:13 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD Did you miss my post re class action of PPDT with Jan baby as our attorney?
    by the way.. just unpacked my life size blow up Juan Baby Doll and he’s asleep in my lap.

    Yes but darlin’ did you not notice that it will not hold air because it is defective!!!!! LOL Really a balloon – there are so many jokes I could make but I’ll refrain so enjoy the balloon while I’ll enjoy the real thing 🙂

  335. 03/22/2013 at 4:14 pm

    ROFL!!!!! feel like a dingos arse Rofl!!!! toooooo funny!!

  336. 03/22/2013 at 4:14 pm

    Donchais; no worries, I am sane???? He knows I was just joshing him.

  337. 03/22/2013 at 4:16 pm

    LOL!!! MMD …. you are just jealous! He also talks. He says he likes my accent.

  338. Janeto
    03/22/2013 at 4:16 pm

    donchais! I’ve been reading and replying on my phone all day and didn’t see your lovely new “tin foil hat” until I just got on a computer!! At least NOW I know what was so funny!!! OMG!!! That is too funny!!!! That’s the picture I had in my head this whole time!! I had to show my wo-worker. He knows I’m obsessed with the trial as much as I am this site and all our peeps!!! He cracked up. He said “he’s gonna make me one with googlie eyes with springs on the antennas, and send you all a picture!!” LOL!!

  339. 03/22/2013 at 4:17 pm

    MD6953 just make some ref to what you are replying to – we’ll firgure it out. That’s what I do anyhow 😀

  340. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:19 pm

    Donchais – Great new hat!! I’ll take one as well! But I agree with Nancy Pennington , I don’t need the big balls either. Mine are big enough!!!! 😉

    To our UK friends – Wouldn’t this new hat qualify as a fascinator??? Makes us sound much more posh and stylish.

  341. 03/22/2013 at 4:21 pm

    Janeto
    “he’s gonna make me one with googlie eyes with springs on the antennas

    That is so unfair! I want one too!!!

  342. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:24 pm

    Marilyn N :
    OK – so I just went on my husbands computer to snoop on the JA Innocent site.

    Marilyn – you’re gonna get scabies or something from that site. At least give the computer a good scan! LOL

    Truly amazing that people can think that but with every trial, out come the crazies!!! If only their freedom of speech could be severely curtailed!

  343. 03/22/2013 at 4:25 pm

    md6953 :
    Hi all….I understand that court starts next Monday – 3/25 but am confused about the reminder of the week and the week of April 1…..please clarify. Thank you.

    It sounded to me like she said 9:30-12:30 Thursday then nothing until Tuesday but Im not sure cos it mean nothing to me so I didn’t take a lot of notice cos Im in Oz

  344. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:26 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD Did you miss my post re class action of PPDT with Jan baby as our attorney?
    by the way.. just unpacked my life size blow up Juan Baby Doll and he’s asleep in my lap.

    Syntara: roflmao!!

  345. 03/22/2013 at 4:27 pm

    MMD
    “Truly amazing that people can think that but with every trial, out come the crazies!!!

    Ummmmm have you seen those hats? Yeah… ummmmm yeah ummmmmmmmmmm yeah

  346. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:29 pm

    donchais :
    Syntara One of those trolls tried to get through last nite and called me ‘thought police’ for not allowing the comments through! Well, duh!!!

    Hey your site, your rules! 🙂

  347. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:29 pm

    MMD :

    Marilyn N :
    OK – so I just went on my husbands computer to snoop on the JA Innocent site.

    Marilyn – you’re gonna get scabies or something from that site. At least give the computer a good scan! LOL
    Truly amazing that people can think that but with every trial, out come the crazies!!! If only their freedom of speech could be severely curtailed!

    Marilyn – Or worse! I think JA visited that site and that’s where she got the herp sore that she was sporting a few weeks ago!

  348. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:32 pm

    Oh boy! I’ve got 2 posts in moderation. So sorry Donchais!! I know busy trying to keep the trolls at bay.

  349. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:33 pm

    *you’re

  350. 03/22/2013 at 4:34 pm

    Marilyn N :
    OK – so I just went on my husbands computer to snoop on the JA Innocent site.

    MMD:
    Marilyn – you’re gonna get scabies or something

    She’s gonna get PTSD and go foggy!

  351. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:36 pm

    Vickee :
    Watching Juan last nite, hubby thought he was maybe a little over the top, he got the look and is now in fear for his life. Had to explain Samuels to him. Make no mistake he thinks JA should get the DP and wonders what is taking them so long to ge to it.

    Well glad to see you have him trained! 🙂

  352. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:36 pm

    Syntara :
    Marilyn N :
    OK – so I just went on my husbands computer to snoop on the JA Innocent site.
    MMD:
    Marilyn – you’re gonna get scabies or something
    She’s gonna get PTSD and go foggy!

    That too! Then we won’t recognize her and she won’t remember us 😦

  353. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 4:37 pm

    Syntara :
    Marilyn N :
    OK – so I just went on my husbands computer to snoop on the JA Innocent site.
    MMD:
    Marilyn – you’re gonna get scabies or something
    She’s gonna get PTSD and go foggy!

    With a possible outbreak of Herp Lip

  354. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:38 pm

    Oh! I just love the pic of JM with Katy Wick. Just love seeing him smile!!!

  355. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:40 pm

    Chrissie A – LOL! I just said the same thing but I’m stuck in moderation. I think that’s how JA got that sore…she’s camped out on the website.

  356. Crystal Harris
    03/22/2013 at 4:41 pm

    I believe Dr Samuels deliberately did NOT administer the MMPI so he could avoid detecting the myriad personality disorders, sociopathy, etc. it can detect, not to mention the test’s ability to detect lying.
    As Samuels’ testimony continually revealed, the MCMI seemed much more geared to be given by someone wishing to administer therapy.

  357. ter987
    03/22/2013 at 4:41 pm

    Does the Dr. still get $250.00 an hour or did he say on the stand that his rate was ” $250.00 when he started.”.Is it still $250.00?? Is Matt M. on the prosecution’s list? Does anyone know what happened to JA’s camera that she always had with her.?? Did she stop and get photo’s developed somewhere. Takes just minutes and you do it yourself..Was there any blood on the camera?? There was no blood on the sides of the washing machine or on the dishwasher.. Love this site..Thanks for all the work you do to make it possible..

  358. 03/22/2013 at 4:42 pm

    Laine:
    I did spot your link for Chrissie above so I will settle down with that tonight! Thanks for posting these links it helps lay people like me to keep up

    Watch the diagnosis by Bob Hare does first. Its only 10 mins. You’ll then hopefully have a better idea of what the one I posted to Chrissie is about. That one is much longer and not sure what a ‘lay’ person as you call it might get out of it. Actuallly I’d be really curious to know if what if anything the average person does get out of either of them.

    Its hard for me cos I know so much about it it just is all so obvious for me, explaining it to others is the difficult part.

  359. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:43 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Whew! That dayam wizard must have knocked me out!
    Why do my Fridays seem like Saturdays now? This trial has totally re-arranged my schedule

    I’m the exact same way! I am soooooooooo off on my days. With court now ending at 8:30 my time, I’m on a whole different schedule from everybody I know. It takes me ages to wind down!

  360. 03/22/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Oh hang Im losing it… what did I post to chrissie? I dunno LOL I was thinking I psychopath… but then I thought no that was to you… I dunno I’m confuzzled… Sorry!!!

  361. 03/22/2013 at 4:47 pm

    MMD It ends at 8:30 here too!!! 8:30am that is!

  362. 03/22/2013 at 4:49 pm

    ter987:

    It’s 25¢ an hour he’s gonna be charging now.

  363. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:50 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    Hello All…..as I mentioned late yesterday our little group didn’t get online until I got back from Jury Duty but from what I heard from the ol’ hens in my group it was SOS (Same ol Shit!). See we know some initials too from out generation!

    All I can say ladies is that I wish I was watching the trial in the same room with you. You’re circle is a hoot and is really missed when you’re not here! 🙂

  364. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 4:52 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD It ends at 8:30 here too!!! 8:30am that is!

    And that is why we should not both be in here at the same time! 😦 You have totally messed up your sleep cycles.

  365. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 4:52 pm

    MMD :

    Wouldn’t wish them on my worse enemy but I would wish them on JA, Wurmi, Willnott and Dr. Quack! That’s why when JA said she had a migraine, any one who has ever had one, totally knew she was faking it!!!

    Sorry to hear you suffer those, my Mum used to get them, she couldn’t do anything but lay in bed, room darkened, with a cold flannel on her temple – I feel for you

  366. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:52 pm

    Just saw a clip of Jean Casarez on HLN commenting on the DV expert. She says she read a transcript from a previous hearing between JM and A. LaViolette and he just ripped her apart. Looking forward to seeing that.

  367. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 4:53 pm

    MMD :

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    Hello All…..as I mentioned late yesterday our little group didn’t get online until I got back from Jury Duty but from what I heard from the ol’ hens in my group it was SOS (Same ol Shit!). See we know some initials too from out generation!

    All I can say ladies is that I wish I was watching the trial in the same room with you. You’re circle is a hoot and is really missed when you’re not here!

    I second that motion!

  368. 03/22/2013 at 4:54 pm

    ter987
    Does anyone know what happened to JA’s camera that she always had with her.?? Did she stop and get photo’s developed somewhere. Takes just minutes and you do it yourself..

    I think thats the one the defense asked for earlier in the trial. Martinez said it had been available for 4 yrs or something and Det Flores had it to them by lunch. So she wanted it back for some reason.

    No blood was in the washing machine there was some on the top that was tested. I believe one lot tested was negative for blood but one positive.

  369. 03/22/2013 at 4:57 pm

    Tracey:

    Well apparently (according to an article I read this morning and posted link to in here, Dr Dodgy von Whacko was their star witness.

  370. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 4:58 pm

    MMD – Still trying to get caught up on comments. Were you able to make it the doc???

  371. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 4:59 pm

    MMD: Sounds like your feeling good today – 👍.
    Thanks for your lengthy comment on my questions!!😊

  372. 03/22/2013 at 5:00 pm

    MMD
    And that is why we should not both be in here at the same time! You have totally messed up your sleep cycles.

    Not so much. Night shift I’m used to in the laboratory I work in. So it’s ok mum!

  373. 03/22/2013 at 5:04 pm

    how do you do the thumbs up emote? plus anymore anyone knows plse

  374. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:04 pm

    Syn – Are you kidding? That joker was the star??? That’s atrocious!! Casarez said the DV expert is out of the Los Angeles area (eye roll) and is well respected (double eye roll) and works very closely with the DA’s office (heavy sigh) here. I wonder if she consulted the prosecutors in the OJ case?? That would explain that circus of a trial.

  375. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:05 pm

    A comment from yesterday’s testimony:

    Miss W to Dr Doodoo: “Since Jodi is a “photographer” doesn’t it make no sense for her to toss the camera in the washing machine expecting the pictures to disappear forever?”

    Me: Well Miss W, I guess your new bff doesn’t know all there is to know about the inner workings of a camera. It was obvious in the interrogation when Flores said he had pictures to prove she was there. Jodi: Reeeeeaaalllly? – Pictures??””

    But then, silly me, it was just that nasty old fog acting up again!!

  376. 03/22/2013 at 5:05 pm

    yeah.. I posted the article I was reading..links in here let me try to find post #

  377. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 5:06 pm

    Syntara :

    This is a scary cover! Jack Nicholson in The Shining comes to mind:
    (sorry Jack)

  378. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:06 pm

    Let’s see if this works Syn or

  379. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Nienna :
    I’m seriously nauseous! The nerve of some people. How could you even complain about TA’s sisters rolling their eyes (quietly, out of view) and not be morally offended by JA’s mother. Her daily joking and laughter because it’s hilarious that your daughter killed someone in the fashion that she did (whether you believe it to be self defense or not!) and is standing trial while you sit 3 feet from the people who have been devastated and forever changed! Have some human decency!!! Mind you this is the same daughter who says you beat and traumatized her and caused this to happen.
    SORRY Donchais – I’m just so disgusted and needed to vent!

    Obviously the apple does not fall far from the tree!!! I think that the Alexander family is showing an incredible amount of restraint considering the circumstances. I know I wouldn’t be able handle it as well as that family is.

    The mother and aunt act like this is a social occasion but yet have someone thrown out of court yesterday who said that they wished JA was dead or would die. I seriously think she is taking notes to write a tell all book and is going to milk this for all she can. She wears the big pendant that says MOM on it but she is sure not acting like a normal one whose daughter is on trial for her life.

    Obviously JM needs to show her the definition of compassion, if she is even capable of feeling that, for the victim’s family.

    It sure takes all kinds………………….

  380. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Syntara :
    how do you do the thumbs up emote? plus anymore anyone knows plse

    Syn: on my Mac, you bring up the characters and choose People and it is below all the happy faces.

  381. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Nope, I have a source, let me look for it….

  382. 03/22/2013 at 5:08 pm

    ok first Laine.. the posted link to Chrissie is meant for you. Apologies to both of you! That’s why I was confused.

  383. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:08 pm

    (Y)

  384. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:09 pm

    Nope. Not working for me. Can’t get the thumbs up.

  385. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:10 pm

    The twins: “Oh we are so proud of our little Jodi and how special she is that the state of Arizona is footing her bill!” barf barf

  386. 03/22/2013 at 5:10 pm

    re emotes… I have an imac…but I 99% am using my ipad so maybe thats why I don’t see the same things. I know I have to go to the imac if the embed vid is restricted cos that link doesn’t work on the view through you tube.

  387. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:11 pm

    Tracey A :
    Nope. Not working for me. Can’t get the thumbs up.

    Is your computer all up to date.
    I think mine is a recent update addition.
    That is about all I know.

  388. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:14 pm

    Watch out, Miss Wilmott is watching you………. 👀
    👄

  389. 03/22/2013 at 5:14 pm

    Tracey A – Dr Dodgy star witness article referenced #248

  390. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:15 pm

    try again – 👀
    👄

  391. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Damn! I’m so busted! However, just remember ladies. I’m much closer to Phoenix than you all are. And, if I throw my gas cans (which I always carry with me) I won’t even have to stop for gas! LMAO!!! Cuz we all know that gas is much cheaper in AZ than CA!!!

    But just remember, who in their right mind, in the heat would drive to AZ with gas cans that would explode. And heaven help you if you were in an accident – instant toast! Guess you’ll just have to stay put there darlin’! 🙂 Want to make sure to keep ya safe and all!!!

  392. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:16 pm

    The eyes and mouth won’t stay lined up!! Oh well!

  393. 03/22/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Chrissie omfg that book cover is scary!!! lol!

  394. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Still trying to get caught up on comments. Were you able to make it the doc???<

    Yep saw the quack. Waited 3 hours for 10 minutes!

  395. 03/22/2013 at 5:19 pm

    Hey yall. My computerbe working right seems to …ehh, sort of. Has anybody checked out EBay for JA’s smuggled artwork? Check out the nice Equine for $1900…I wonder if ol’ doc Samuels has put in his bid…

  396. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:21 pm

    Marilyn N – Yep, but my laptop has been giving me problems. So who knows. I’m not very computer literate that’s for sure! Thanks for trying to help though!

  397. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:23 pm

    strong>Marilyn N :
    MMD: Sounds like your feeling good today – 👍.
    Thanks for your lengthy comment on my questions!!😊

    It’s called sleep deprivation and caffeine!!! Works every time!!! 🙂 I should either be going all night or else totally collapse!

  398. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:25 pm

    Marilyn N :
    The twins: “Oh we are so proud of our little Jodi and how special she is that the state of Arizona is footing her bill!” barf barf

    Gag me! Yuck!!!!!!

  399. 03/22/2013 at 5:26 pm

    His name is Bert-n-Ernie
    But he’s more like Snuffaluffagus
    He defends child molesters and The Killer Jodi Arias
    She went to Travis Alexanders place
    With intent to do him harm
    And Lord please spare her the fogginess
    When death goes in her arm

  400. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:26 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Syntara :
    Marilyn N :
    OK – so I just went on my husbands computer to snoop on the JA Innocent site.
    MMD:
    Marilyn – you’re gonna get scabies or something
    She’s gonna get PTSD and go foggy!

    With a possible outbreak of Herp Lip

    Too funny Chrissie! *** waves***** After all we know that JA DOES like to share the wealth!

  401. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:29 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD
    And that is why we should not both be in here at the same time! You have totally messed up your sleep cycles.
    Not so much. Night shift I’m used to in the laboratory I work in. So it’s ok mum!

    Yes but darlin’ you are up all night and all day!!! You’re go down that damn rabbit hole and never be found again soon! Not giving you a hard time, just an observation………..

  402. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 5:33 pm

    OMG – I think I might be starting to itch!!

  403. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 5:33 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Hey yall. My computerbe working right seems to …ehh, sort of. Has anybody checked out EBay for JA’s smuggled artwork? Check out the nice Equine for $1900…I wonder if ol’ doc Samuels has put in his bid…

    I checked it out a while back – I thought that ebay had taken them down!! I think it is so sick that she painted one of Travis’ brother (the one who is in court) The apparently the mother was selling them:

  404. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:34 pm

    Bubble – Just checked out JA’s drawing on ebay. $1900.00??? WTH?? I wouldn’t give her 19 cents.

  405. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:34 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Hey yall. My computerbe working right seems to …ehh, sort of. Has anybody checked out EBay for JA’s smuggled artwork? Check out the nice Equine for $1900…I wonder if ol’ doc Samuels has put in his bid…

    Oh I’m sure that she has given and promised more of her own brand of special voodoo! 🙂

  406. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:36 pm

    MMD – Waited over 3 hrs??? That sucks! I hope you were able to get your migraine meds…?

  407. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:37 pm

    bubblebutts :
    His name is Bert-n-Ernie
    But he’s more like Snuffaluffagus
    He defends child molesters and The Killer Jodi Arias
    She went to Travis Alexanders place
    With intent to do him harm
    And Lord please spare her the fogginess
    When death goes in her arm

    Hopefully she’s getting closer to lied, cried, gonna be fried!!!

  408. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:39 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Waited over 3 hrs??? That sucks! I hope you were able to get your migraine meds…?

    Yep. He had me hooked up to a blood pressure machine that was taking it every couple of minutes – completely normal. He walks in – it skyrockets! I told him before that he was the problem. I’m never late and I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate waiting for anyone or anything!!!! Drives me completely nuts!!!!!!!!!!!! but I digress again……………

  409. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 5:42 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Waited over 3 hrs??? That sucks! I hope you were able to get your migraine meds…?

    To answer your question, yes but he doles them out in monthly intervals for three months at a time. That way I have to go back every three months.

  410. 03/22/2013 at 5:45 pm

    MMD Yes but darlin’ you are up all night and all day!!! You’re go down that damn rabbit hole and never be found again soon! Not giving you a hard time, just an observation………..

    No seriously Im not! Ive been getting at least 8 hours and most days doing 2km swim and/or tready for exercise. So stop worrying about me! Im waaaay old enough Mum!!!

  411. 03/22/2013 at 5:46 pm

    Dammit Ive lost a link Chrissie put up. Ive just rant through all the posts today and still cant find it. Chrissie it was re the Matt letters… any ideas??

  412. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:46 pm

    MMD :

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Damn! I’m so busted! However, just remember ladies. I’m much closer to Phoenix than you all are. And, if I throw my gas cans (which I always carry with me) I won’t even have to stop for gas! LMAO!!! Cuz we all know that gas is much cheaper in AZ than CA!!!

    But just remember, who in their right mind, in the heat would drive to AZ with gas cans that would explode. And heaven help you if you were in an accident – instant toast! Guess you’ll just have to stay put there darlin’! Want to make sure to keep ya safe and all!!!

    Too funny!!! And who ever said I’m in my right mind???!! LOL! It is for Juan after all! And only dumbass JA would carry gas cans. Too bad she wasn’t overcome with the fumes.

  413. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 5:47 pm

    MMD :

    Here you go, now no fighting ladies (or gents) 😛
    http://tinyurl.com/ad7p9u9

  414. 03/22/2013 at 5:49 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Hey yall. My computerbe working right seems to …ehh, sort of. Has anybody checked out EBay for JA’s smuggled artwork? Check out the nice Equine for $1900…I wonder if ol’ doc Samuels has put in his bid…

    This really pisses me off. Narcissists (read psycho in this case) love attention. She will be feeling so smug about this. OMFG it makes me seethe!

  415. 03/22/2013 at 5:50 pm

    I hope the proceeds are seized and given to Travis’ family that would be what would happen in a just world.

  416. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:51 pm

    Chrissie A – I had no idea she painted a picture on TA’s brother. That is just so sick and twisted.

  417. 03/22/2013 at 5:53 pm

    Chrissie:
    The apparently the mother was selling them

    There is something really really wrong with that mother. Id love to know what it is. Ostensibly it certainly seems like it goes a long way to explaining Jodi’s problems either genetically or environmentally. It’s all just sick!

  418. 03/22/2013 at 5:54 pm

    Hey that just like my doll!!!

  419. 03/22/2013 at 5:54 pm

    oops that was re the pick Chrissie posted

  420. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 5:57 pm

    Marilyn N :
    OMG – I think I might be starting to itch!!

    Whatever you do, don’t scratch it!!

  421. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 5:58 pm

    MMD – Just saw your post about dreaming about this case. I would “quote” it but I keep getting stuck in moderation and don’t want to give Donchais extra work. That’s bizarre because I awoke this morning dreaming about this case. This psycho has worked her way into our lives and heads.

  422. 03/22/2013 at 5:59 pm

    I havent dreamed anything about the case cos acco9rding to MMD I don’t sleep!!! 😛

  423. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 6:00 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie:
    The apparently the mother was selling them
    There is something really really wrong with that mother. Id love to know what it is. Ostensibly it certainly seems like it goes a long way to explaining Jodi’s problems either genetically or environmentally. It’s all just sick!

    Ugh… typos 😕

  424. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 6:01 pm

    Chrissie A & Syntara. LMAO!!! That pic is Juanderful!!! I’m so jealous now Syn!!! I’ll have to get my own doll now!

  425. 03/22/2013 at 6:05 pm

    Marilyn N :
    A comment from yesterday’s testimony:
    Miss W to Dr Doodoo: “Since Jodi is a “photographer” doesn’t it make no sense for her to toss the camera in the washing machine expecting the pictures to disappear forever?”
    Me: Well Miss W, I guess your new bff doesn’t know all there is to know about the inner workings of a camera. It was obvious in the interrogation when Flores said he had pictures to prove she was there. Jodi: Reeeeeaaalllly? – Pictures??””
    But then, silly me, it was just that nasty old fog acting up again!!

    hahah nice one Marilyn. Zegactly!!!

  426. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 6:09 pm

    Syntara :
    Has anyone read this book he gave her? Does that book mention FOG?

    I read this book in the late 70’s. It was OK

  427. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 6:09 pm

    Forgot to add NO fog in book

  428. 03/22/2013 at 6:09 pm

    Syntara :
    . gotta go to my imc to view Chrissies vid again.

    Chrissie Sorry for that – I don’t understand why Apple won’t link you to youtube, Can you go to a stand alone browser on it and paste in the link?

    It’s fine Chrissie its just my ipad for some reason that view on YouTube link isn’t active for some reason. works no worries with the mouse on the imac

  429. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 6:11 pm

    Syntara – Here is a link about Matt & Pedo Letters. When I get time tonight I’ll find the link for Juan’s letter to the court requesting they be thrown out. 🙂

  430. 03/22/2013 at 6:12 pm

    NancyB Re No fog in book

    Yeah Robert from netherlands relayed what it was about. He was saying it was published in the 70s that was before the fringe FOG came out.. that seems to have been hyped since Borderline became the fad Dx of the moment which is mid to late 90s I guess.

  431. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 6:12 pm
  432. 03/22/2013 at 6:14 pm

    Thanks heaps really appreciate it.NancyB 😀

  433. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 6:15 pm

    Hi Syntara! You are a walking encyclopedia of excellent knowledge base! Love your contributions. Haven’t had a chance to read all the previous posts today. Will catch up later this evening. Catch u later.

  434. 03/22/2013 at 6:18 pm

    Anyone who knows:
    So why cant we see those letters on the net? are they closed off for some reason at the moment because the investigation is ongoing?

  435. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 6:19 pm

    Syntara :

    Marilyn N :
    A comment from yesterday’s testimony:
    Miss W to Dr Doodoo: “Since Jodi is a “photographer” doesn’t it make no sense for her to toss the camera in the washing machine expecting the pictures to disappear forever?”
    Me: Well Miss W, I guess your new bff doesn’t know all there is to know about the inner workings of a camera. It was obvious in the interrogation when Flores said he had pictures to prove she was there. Jodi: Reeeeeaaalllly? – Pictures??””
    But then, silly me, it was just that nasty old fog acting up again!!

    hahah nice one Marilyn. Zegactly!!!

    This is all BS about her being a photographer or an artist! Where is her work being shown?(Apart from e-bay) Where is her website with a body of work? (That said I had to check up hername.com and someone purchased it in Feb 2011 by proxy – I really hope it was the Alexanders so that she and her ilk have as few platforms as possible for her) – She was simply a waitress and a gold digger to boot – they can spin it anyway they like, but that is the reality.

  436. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:23 pm

    Chrissie A :
    I checked it out a while back – I thought that ebay had taken them down!! I think it is so sick that she painted one of Travis’ brother (the one who is in court) The apparently the mother was selling them:

    She labels it JFineArt!!!! OMFG

  437. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:26 pm

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :

    Here you go, now no fighting ladies (or gents)
    http://tinyurl.com/ad7p9u9

    But I want a biggggggggggggggggggggg one please Chrissie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  438. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 6:27 pm

    Syntara :
    Anyone who knows:
    So why cant we see those letters on the net? are they closed off for some reason at the moment because the investigation is ongoing?

    Yes, I think they are sealed, I’ve really tried to hunt them down! There is an AZ Atty. who gets some of the docs that I post, she has to go to the courthouse and pay for copies as AZ does not post them online. (I will ask her what she knows about the letters.) Did you take a looksee at the motion I posted to you earlier, it has a few tell tales in it regarding the contents If not I’ll re-post.

  439. 03/22/2013 at 6:27 pm

    Chrissie she’s suffers from extreme narcissism so she’s good at everything. Don’t you realise she was an entrepreneur, photographer, artist, sex goddess… according to her she was fantastic at everything… thats why she lived in a tiny little room in her grandparents house.

    Another reason she was so mad at Travis, she left the other guy cos he got into financial woes for Travis who was supposed to be her perfect meal ticket and he didn’t want her and she was relegated to that tiny room!

    For someone with a sense of entitlement as big as hers that alone would have incensed her.

  440. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:28 pm

    Syntara :
    I havent dreamed anything about the case cos acco9rding to MMD I don’t sleep!!!

    Yes but something you’re gonna rectify this weekend. Then you will be able to dream about JM all you want, cause that is the closest you are gonna get to him!!!!!

  441. Anna
    03/22/2013 at 6:34 pm

    Don’t know if this has already been posted, but wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to read what Tanisha Sorenson (Travis’ sister) posted: http://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/447419125334235
    I recommend a box of tissues.

  442. 03/22/2013 at 6:36 pm

    Chrissie but that is the reality

    reality means nothing to a psychopath they create their own to the point of delusion. Which is one thing Dr Dodgy von Whacko got right but then of course went in the wrong direction and started with the possible DID Dx 9used to be called multiple personality) ie the exorcist defense.

    She’s deluded cos she lives in a world that revolves around her to the point of almost being psychotic. So he is right to a point but then completely stuffs up the diagnosis and goes with the 19 century therapy bullshit.

    I’ll find a good quote about this later in the day (my day) from a leading expert in the field that explains it really well why you can’t use freudian type crap therapy on people with these kinds of personality disorders. It’s because they don’t respond to in the same way they are too self centred and manipulative.

  443. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 6:36 pm

    Syntara :
    Syntara :
    . gotta go to my imc to view Chrissies vid again.
    Chrissie Sorry for that – I don’t understand why Apple won’t link you to youtube, Can you go to a stand alone browser on it and paste in the link?
    It’s fine Chrissie its just my ipad for some reason that view on YouTube link isn’t active for some reason. works no worries with the mouse on the imac

    We have Apples and Pc’s here, the Apples are used for graphics, film editing etc. I just mentioned your problem to my hubby and he said that for some reason, (since 2010) Apple is against using Flash in the iphone ipad line – I’ll see if there are any plugins out there to download – I’m sure some smart youngster has found a way around it 🙂

  444. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:42 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD Yes but darlin’ you are up all night and all day!!! You’re go down that damn rabbit hole and never be found again soon! Not giving you a hard time, just an observation………..
    No seriously Im not! Ive been getting at least 8 hours and most days doing 2km swim and/or tready for exercise. So stop worrying about me! Im waaaay old enough Mum!!!

    Well ya know a Mum never stops worrying unless you’re the mother of JA – then you try and make money off her! LOL I can tell you speak the Queen’s English because most people would say Mom.

    Why are you bothering to exercise. Aren’t you getting enough going down that damn rabbit hole???????? 🙂

    OK, so since we are 12 hours apart, how about you tell me exactly which 8 hours you happen to be sleeping, if you feel so inclined. Plus you are probably the only one on here that’s getting that much! I haven’t had a good night’s sleep since this trial started! Since I’ve been awake since 2 this morning you’d think I would start to fade soon……….. but I digress again……….

  445. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:44 pm

    It must be the fog……………..

  446. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 6:44 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie but that is the reality

    It’s just so difficult to wrap my head around this type of behavior, thanks so much for the explanation!!! I recall that you were looking for a graphic of the angle of the bullet wound, did you ever get that? If not I know I have seen that and will hunt it down for you.

  447. Laine
    03/22/2013 at 6:47 pm

    Well I still haen’t caught up on everyones comments but I just saw a clip from HLN saying that Jodi was originally booked to go on the Cacun trip with Travis and he changed it to Mimi? I won’t add the video if you guys have already seen this. Has this been discussed and I missed it? Thanks 🙂

  448. 03/22/2013 at 6:50 pm

    Yesterday 8 til around 2ish then I think it was around 6-8 (maybe longer cos think I slept a little earlier than that!) cos I went for my swim in there so pfffft

  449. 03/22/2013 at 6:51 pm

    that’s rough but its around those times so lalalalalaaaaaaa :p

  450. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 6:55 pm

    Crystal Harris :
    I believe Dr Samuels deliberately did NOT administer the MMPI so he could avoid detecting the myriad personality disorders, sociopathy, etc. it can detect, not to mention the test’s ability to detect lying.
    As Samuels’ testimony continually revealed, the MCMI seemed much more geared to be given by someone wishing to administer therapy.

    Exactly! MCMI was an inappropriate choice for initial testing but very calculated.

  451. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:55 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Ha ha!!
    http://cabanachat.u.yuku.com/gallery/view/fid/175862#.UUygaRyceSp

    Tooooooooooooooo funny!!!!! Chrissie 🙂

  452. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 6:56 pm

    Anna :
    Don’t know if this has already been posted, but wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to read what Tanisha Sorenson (Travis’ sister) posted: http://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/447419125334235
    I recommend a box of tissues.

    That is heart wrenching!!! I also can’t believe that she has the time to personally e-mails back whenever I make a donation. We can all learn something from their strength and class during which must be an adrenalin fueled part of their lives. I think they are going to need much support when the trial is over, it is then that they will truly have time to grieve Travis.

  453. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 6:59 pm

    Syntara :
    Yesterday 8 til around 2ish then I think it was around 6-8 (maybe longer cos think I slept a little earlier than that!) cos I went for my swim in there so pfffft

    pfffft yourself!!!!

  454. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 6:59 pm

    typo *e-mail back pffffft me bloody hippocampus is acting up today

  455. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:01 pm

    Syntara :
    that’s rough but its around those times so lalalalalaaaaaaa :p

    Ya sound like a little kid who sticks their fingers in their ears and starts singing lalalalalalala and you tried to say that really, you’re old enough?????????? actions my dear, actions…… LOL

  456. 03/22/2013 at 7:02 pm

    Chrissie: no I didn’t I couldn’t find it only found the skull pic and the wound sketches.

    As for getting your head around it… oh see thats the cognitive dissonance your mind can’t make sense of it cos it’s so outside normal parameters your mind struggles to come to terms with it. Normal structured people don’t act that way so you don’t expect it. That’s how they get away with it. You keep thinking “they must be able to change no one could want to be like that.” It’s taken me 8 years to get where I am in understanding them.

    Do Watch that 10 min Robert Hare thing you should get a better idea he is the leading expert in the world atm he has awards out his wazoo… just recently got order of Canada.

    Thats a REAL expert who has made the most of their 35+ years unlike Dr Dodgy whacko who is in love with Arias. and it’s hard to believe, accept and even harder to understand. It has taken me 8 years to understand it as I do.

  457. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:03 pm

    Chrissie A :
    typo *e-mail back pffffft me bloody hippocampus is acting up today

    Don’t encourage her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  458. 03/22/2013 at 7:04 pm

    MMD Ya sound like a little kid who sticks their fingers in their ears and starts singing lalalalalalala and you tried to say that really, you’re old enough?????????? actions my dear, actions…… LOL

    and your point is? 😛

  459. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 7:07 pm

    Tracey A :
    Just saw a clip of Jean Casarez on HLN commenting on the DV expert. She says she read a transcript from a previous hearing between JM and A. LaViolette and he just ripped her apart. Looking forward to seeing that.

    Thanks so much for posting that! I’ve been very worried about her. She can take her 20 or 30 pg CV and shove it. It looks like she may have done some admirable work in this field in the past but I can only consider her as a sell out and a traitor. I can’t help it – any so called professional who would stoop so low as to sell themselves out to lie for this conniving psychopathic butcher is trash as far as I’m concerned. I don’t know how these people look themselves in the mirror. Go Juan!

  460. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:07 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD Ya sound like a little kid who sticks their fingers in their ears and starts singing lalalalalalala and you tried to say that really, you’re old enough?????????? actions my dear, actions…… LOL
    and your point is?

    Truly incorrigible!!! You’ve been down that damn rabbit hole too much and my brain is starting to turn into wonky mush!

  461. 03/22/2013 at 7:09 pm

    NancyB Deliberately not administering PD tests.

    I agree and I think Martinez is of that opinion to that is what all his questions are leading to and Dr Dodgy knows it to and that is why he is sweating bricks hence the baby poo brown suit the other day… hide the stains.

    Notice he said she had a PD then ran from it or tried to. Thats when I lost track doing the Q/A cos I was like hang on what did he just say did he just say she’s got a PD?

  462. 03/22/2013 at 7:10 pm

    MMD hahahahahaha 😀

  463. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:13 pm

    NancyB :
    She can take her 20 or 30 pg CV and shove it. It looks like she may have done some admirable work in this field in the past but I can only consider her as a sell out and a traitor. I can’t help it – any so called professional who would stoop so low as to sell themselves out to lie for this conniving psychopathic butcher is trash as far as I’m concerned. I don’t know how these people look themselves in the mirror. Go Juan!

    Very well put Nancy!!! She is truly hurting the victims who suffer from battered womens’ syndrome! She’s just basically whoring herself out to the highest bidder, imo! I’m sure that JM will be very well prepared for her and the jury will see her for what she is!

  464. 03/22/2013 at 7:14 pm

    Chrissie A :
    typo *e-mail back pffffft me bloody hippocampus is acting up today

    or your hypothalamus ?? …

    Did you see him confuse those two? haha that was funny it was in the very very early stages and I thought huh how did he confuse those in his field.. it was so early I was still taking him a tiny bit seriously wasn’t quite down the rabbit hole then.

  465. 03/22/2013 at 7:16 pm

    Sorry no clue who you two are talking about now. I’ll have to wait for the testimony.

  466. NancyB
  467. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 7:22 pm

    OMG! I’m watching one of Det. Flores’s interviews with The Skank. I have not seen this particular clip before. She’s talking about leaving Pasadena to head to Utah. She mentions the I-15 and I-40 highways. I’ve driven this route 100’s of times. She’s making this up as she goes along!!! I-40 doesn’t even GO through Utah. But it would take her to Mesa via a couple of other routes. I even have my road atlas out to follow what she is saying. For all of her intense planning, you’d think she would’ve worked this out in her mind!!!

    Oh Boy! Do I need to get a life or what???

  468. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 7:24 pm
  469. 03/22/2013 at 7:25 pm

    Laine I dont go there well I did once when someone posted the link for me and got the ME sketches… so I haven’t see anything. Post link plse sweetstuff

  470. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:26 pm

    Anna :
    Don’t know if this has already been posted, but wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to read what Tanisha Sorenson (Travis’ sister) posted: http://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/447419125334235
    I recommend a box of tissues.

    Since a lot of people don’t use facebook I did a copy and paste for this. Hope it is allowed. This is truly a class act and I have no idea how they do it. It must be through their faith!!

    Tanisha SorensonThe State vs Jodi Arias ~ Travis Alexander murder trial
    2 hours ago ·
    To the supporters of Travis and Our family,
    I just want to express how grateful Our family is to all of you for the loving support you have all shown us. Whether it’s been support thru these pages, or thru your prayers, or thru sending us donations for our travel expenses, or thru sending us messages on facebook, or sending us Cards , Drawings of Travis, or making us Jewelry , quilts or gift cards and sending to them thru my PO box, or if its you coming to court and showing support, or thru tying your blue ribbons around trees, mailboxes, or by you wearing your blue ribbons , even your children showing support by setting up on the side of the street and doing a lemonade stand to help raise us money for our expenses in the hope we see Justice for Travis. Whatever it is that you have done to show us support, I can’t even express how many tears have ran down my face , even as I write this, because my heart feels so much love from all of you, so much gratitude, so many people who are strangers who I’ve never met and never will meet her on earth, still showing so much love… I just want you to know you are all a part of my families love, pain, and endurance. You have all been here for us and we feel your love, we feel your sacrifice, we feel your support, and we Know Our Heavenly Father hears your prayers and He will not let us down, it’s our faith in him and Jesus Christ that we will see Justice for Travis and feel the love The Lord has for us. We are all blessed that thru the Atonement we will return to live With Our Heavenly father, Jesus Christ, and our Eternal families again. I look forward to living with my parents again, I look forward to living with My Brother TRAVIS again, I look forward to giving him the biggest hug I can think of giving , I look forward to as I’m passing out of this life into the next life hearing him sing as I’m arriving there, I look forward to meeting you all in Heaven someday, and I know I will see you there. Travis will see you there and hug each one of you for showing his family love thru these hard days. Travis will greet you there and he will be gearing up to make you laugh and smile and make you feel the Love he has for all of you!
    Until then I will continue to feel your love in my heart, and continue to pay it forward, I will continue to pray that there is soon Justice for Our family and for our sweet brother Travis. I have received cards, gifts, donations , drawings, etc..and I have sent out and will continue to send out thank you cards for what Our family has gotten in My PO box. You have brighten up our days, and I know the Lord will bless you and your family with Love and happiness.
    Thank you all, With Love, Tanisha Sorenson

  471. 03/22/2013 at 7:27 pm

    Tracey! LOL welcome to my life… obsessive research into this horrific murder! Those tapes are awesome. I so loved seeing those cos all I had known about the case was seeing the 48 mystery on it.

  472. 03/22/2013 at 7:31 pm

    Thank you so much Nancy that’s what I was looking for and couldn’t find it! They should never have been allowed to mention paedophilia in this trial based on that. What the heck is with this judge????

    The claim is so obviously bogus if that much can be proven to be forged!

  473. Laine
    03/22/2013 at 7:31 pm

    http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/22/was-jodi-booked-cancun-trip-travis
    There you go hun. I don’t know where the info come from…maybe a journalist. But pretty explosive if it’s true and what a motive to kill!!

  474. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 7:31 pm

    Anna :
    Don’t know if this has already been posted, but wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to read what Tanisha Sorenson (Travis’ sister) posted: http://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/447419125334235
    I recommend a box of tissues.

    Thanks a lot Anna for posting. It did make me cry.

  475. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:32 pm

    Syntara :
    Sorry no clue who you two are talking about now. I’ll have to wait for the testimony.

    Alyce LaViolette, the Domestic Violence Expert next up for the skank’s side. Here is her website.
    http://www.alycelaviolette.com/

  476. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:34 pm

    Syntara – I’m in moderation – sorry donchais
    Sorry no clue who you two are talking about now. I’ll have to wait for the testimony.

    Alyce LaViolette, the Domestic Violence Expert next up for the skank’s side. Here is her website.
    http://www.alycelaviolette.com/

  477. 03/22/2013 at 7:35 pm

    Does anyone know the brand/model of gun that was “stolen” from the grandparents?

  478. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 7:35 pm

    Syntara :
    Sorry no clue who you two are talking about now. I’ll have to wait for the testimony.

    I think it’s Alyce D. LaViolette the Domestic Violence expert who supposedly is up next for the defense – that’s when I will really loose it.

  479. 03/22/2013 at 7:37 pm

    Everything that comes is BS. It’s gaslighting. Get you to think one thing when all the evidence and your gut feeling screams the other. Wlcome to FOG ladies and gents. Real fog. See what Travis would have gone through?

    What you are feeling trying to get your head around psychopaths is fog! you don’t want to believe they exist but you see her and think heck maybe you do… your cognitive dissonance then decides which side of the fence you fall on.

  480. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 7:37 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie: no I didn’t I couldn’t find it only found the skull pic and the wound sketches.
    Do Watch that 10 min Robert Hare thing you should get a better idea he is the leading expert in the world atm he has awards out his wazoo… just recently got order of Canada.
    Thats a REAL expert who has made the most of their 35+ years unlike Dr Dodgy whacko who is in love with Arias. and it’s hard to believe, accept and even harder to understand. It has taken me 8 years to understand it as I do.

    Thanks so much, I’ll definitely take a looksee later today 🙂

  481. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 7:39 pm

    Syntara :

    And I’ll hunt down that graphic for ye

  482. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 7:40 pm

    Syntara – I just love that they are releasing more detailed clips of the interrogations. Getting more and more info all the time. Watching her squirm is making my day as Det. Flores confronts her. This is one of the few times I’ve seen her really scramble.

  483. 03/22/2013 at 7:40 pm

    Chrissie

    haha so you can have PPVT like Ive got PPDT? ie present/ past Violette Trauma?

  484. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 7:41 pm

    Syntara :
    Thank you so much Nancy that’s what I was looking for and couldn’t find it! They should never have been allowed to mention paedophilia in this trial based on that. What the heck is with this judge????
    The claim is so obviously bogus if that much can be proven to be forged!

    Correct. This judge has no control of her courtroom. It aggravates me.

  485. 03/22/2013 at 7:42 pm

    Trace – are the interview vids you are watching extra to the trials?

  486. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 7:42 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Does anyone know the brand/model of gun that was “stolen” from the grandparents?

    25 mm Rare

  487. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 7:44 pm

    Syntara :
    Trace – are the interview vids you are watching extra to the trials?

    Newly released – not shown in court

  488. 03/22/2013 at 7:44 pm

    There is no way that isn’t the gun used NO WAY

  489. 03/22/2013 at 7:46 pm

    ooo does anyone have links or di I just go the the site and ind em? are they showing the full vids… or should I sourc e on youtube?

  490. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 7:46 pm

    It’s her police interrogation but they are showing way more than they ever have before. In court, they’ve just played snippets. Unfortunately, it’s on HLN which I think you said you don’t get. Every Friday, the are playing the unedited tapes. You may be able to get all of it on hlntv.com. It’s fascinating stuff!

  491. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:46 pm

    NancyB :

    What sickens me the most are these comments. “All profits go towards Jodi’s family traveling expenses to the trial, other fees, and of course money for Jodi so she can eat better food than what they serve in jail.” plus these “Jodi thanks everyone that has helped during these tough times. Please continue to pray for her family and for Travis’ family,”

    Now, I really need that barf bag!!! Talk about nerve – what about the food that Travis NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO EAT?????????????????????????????
    She makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  492. 03/22/2013 at 7:47 pm

    vegemite on toast anyone? mwwhahahaha I know how you all love it so!

  493. 03/22/2013 at 7:48 pm

    What sickens me the most are these comments. “All profits go towards Jodi’s family traveling expenses to the trial, other fees, and of course money for Jodi so she can eat better food than what they serve in jail.” plus these “Jodi thanks everyone that has helped during these tough times. Please continue to pray for her family and for Travis’ family,”

    whaaaaaaaat whaaat whattt is her whole family freaking psychopaths ie NO SHAME????

  494. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:49 pm

    Syntara :
    vegemite on toast anyone? mwwhahahaha I know how you all love it so!

    YUCK! Not fit for human consumption! 😦

  495. 03/22/2013 at 7:50 pm

    hahahahahaha!!! wash your mouth out! How dare you! 😀

  496. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:52 pm

    whaaaaaaaat whaaat whattt is her whole family freaking psychopaths ie NO SHAME????

    Obviously not Syn!!! Plus they bred more than just JA, sad to say!

  497. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 7:52 pm

    Syntara :

  498. 03/22/2013 at 7:52 pm

    so its actually on the tv not on the site Tracey?

  499. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 7:53 pm

    I can’t say I’m feeling any sympathy for Jodi’s Mom. I have to admit that if my child…and let’s face it even if grown they are still your child, were facing the D.P. nothing anyone would say or do could bring a smile to my face let alone a full out laugh! But hey different strokes for different folks I guess. I also would have approached the family and told them the depths of my sorrow for what my daughter did to Travis.

    There was one incident some time back. One of Travis’ sisters was very upset and had to leave the courtroom. Mom and aunt looked over. And giggled. I have no compassion for this mother. It’s not her fault that she gave birth to this monster. But her actions in the courtroom are not just inappropriate and disrespectful but painful to the victim’s family.

  500. 03/22/2013 at 7:53 pm

    Im sorry but you have people over there that aren’t human

  501. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 7:53 pm

    Syntara :
    hahahahahaha!!! wash your mouth out! How dare you!

    Poor girl – she’s been down that rabbit hole to many times – her taste buds are totally gone, shot, never to return…………..

  502. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 7:54 pm

    MMD :

    Syntara :
    vegemite on toast anyone? mwwhahahaha I know how you all love it so!

    YUCK! Not fit for human consumption!

    Oz version of Marmite, actually Marmite is pretty good, haven’t had it in years tho

  503. 03/22/2013 at 7:59 pm

    you ain’t auusie if you don’t like vegemite on toast for breakfast! Bl**dy Canuks!!

  504. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 7:59 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie
    haha so you can have PPVT like Ive got PPDT? ie present/ past Violette Trauma?

    Yes, but I fear I will still need your soothing 🙂

  505. 03/22/2013 at 8:00 pm

    Let us not forget that Dr. Lenore Walker, who coined the phrase Battered Women’s Syndrome, and literally wrote the book on the subject, interviewed OJ a couple times, was paid well by the defense, then reported that OJ did not fit the profile of a batterer.

  506. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 8:01 pm

    I get upset when I see her mom laughing during very serious testimony. As a mother, I could never laugh while my daughter was charged with and committed a premeditated murder.

    However, I believe Jodi is evil personified. If you have a chance watch the new parts on her arrest video. She has her head down, fake hard crying and Det Flores asks if she is beginning to see what she has done ( my words ) and she says to him, “No I am just thinking of what I will miss out on.”. All about Jodi.

  507. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:03 pm

    Syntara :
    you ain’t auusie if you don’t like vegemite on toast for breakfast! Bl**dy Canuks!!

    Marmite or Vegamite on toast for Brekky – Yum!!!

  508. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 8:03 pm

    Syntara – I’m watching it on TV. But when I went to their site, you can get unlimited access to HLN and CNN on your ipad. There is an app for it. The show that is airing the unedited vids is called Evening Express. And they said there are going to do it every Fri.

  509. 03/22/2013 at 8:04 pm

    marmite YUCK!

  510. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 8:04 pm

    Chrissie!! Love your pics! They all make me LOL 🙂

  511. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:04 pm

    NancyB -I can’t say I’m feeling any sympathy for Jodi’s Mom.

    Because of her actions in court, I have never felt one single ounce of sympathy, empathy or compassion for any of that family. Not even for a single second. Normally I would because you can’t blame the parents all the time. Most are simply doing the best they can at the time. I really surprised myself with how I’ve felt this time. Not particularly proud of how I feel, but it is what it is!

  512. 03/22/2013 at 8:06 pm

    thanks trace my ipad might blow up with a cnn app but if I have to get it to see the vids I will

  513. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:07 pm

    MMD :
    whaaaaaaaat whaaat whattt is her whole family freaking psychopaths ie NO SHAME????
    Obviously not Syn!!! Plus they bred more than just JA, sad to say!

    I must say initially I was kind of feeling for her family as sometimes a perfectly normal family can have a bad egg. That was until they demonstrated their disgusting behavior in court, they show no compassion whatsoever!

  514. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 8:08 pm

    Never had Marmite or Vegamite but I have heard it’s nasty. I saw an episode on Top Chef where someone used it and it didn’t go over so well. Like I said, never had it, so no offense intended 😉

  515. 03/22/2013 at 8:08 pm

    She is Evil, I kids you not she is a psychopath

    The devil is a psychopath ergo a psychopath is the devil.

  516. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:09 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Let us not forget that Dr. Lenore Walker, who coined the phrase Battered Women’s Syndrome, and literally wrote the book on the subject, interviewed OJ a couple times, was paid well by the defense, then reported that OJ did not fit the profile of a batterer.

    That was a different time. So many years ago plus OJ had his Dream Team! Now look at what has happened to most of them. They have either died or have suffered tragedies themselves ( e.g.Robert Shapiro). The only one who seems relatively unscathed is Shawn Holley but then again she had to put up with Lindsay Lohan for so long.

  517. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 8:10 pm

    Don’t blow up the ipad Syn! lol!

  518. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:10 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie A :
    typo *e-mail back pffffft me bloody hippocampus is acting up today
    or your hypothalamus ?? …
    Did you see him confuse those two? haha that was funny it was in the very very early stages and I thought huh how did he confuse those in his field.. it was so early I was still taking him a tiny bit seriously wasn’t quite down the rabbit hole then.

    Yep, caught that, the Twitter went absolutely nuts when he made that slip

  519. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:11 pm

    Syntara :
    marmite YUCK!

    Don’t go all bangers and mash on me now – lol

  520. 03/22/2013 at 8:12 pm

    Its not coincidental psychopaths target good people.

    dont worry you’d hate it Trace. Dunno why but we aussies love it everyone else hates it with very few exceptions.

    Really funny when I backpacked around all sorts of places in the world Aussies always had their little jars of veg or if not and another did all the other aussies would be asking for it. Give it to someone of another nationality and their face is like…. “that is disgusting”

  521. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:12 pm

    Tracey A :
    Never had Marmite or Vegamite but I have heard it’s nasty. I saw an episode on Top Chef where someone used it and it didn’t go over so well. Like I said, never had it, so no offense intended

    Tracey – it’s bloody awful!!!!

  522. 03/22/2013 at 8:12 pm

    bangers and mash – LOL fairdinkum you lot are dags!

  523. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 8:13 pm

    This is from one of the court watchers:

    The first thing I want to post is to transcribe exactly what Samantha wrote in my journal about donations:

    Paypal address: justice4travisalexander@gmail.com

    Direct mail: Samantha Alexander
    PO Box 130023
    Carlsbad, CA 92013

    Make checks out to : Samantha Alexander

    (feel free to copy and paste this elsewhere)

  524. 03/22/2013 at 8:18 pm

    I really feel so very very very bad for the Alexander family and they are so poised and regal in the courtroom.

    You can see so starkly who the trash is and that is not a term I ever use but in this instance there is no more to say than that about that mommy dearest and her terrible twin

  525. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:18 pm

    Dunno why but we aussies love it everyone else hates it with very few exceptions.

    That’s cause you don’t know any better. It’s something you grew up with! Every place has something that would gross out those not used to it. How about pickled pigs feet or eye balls. Sheep testicles………. need I continue??????? I may just vomit considering I’m almost a vegetarian, just rarely eat seafood.

    barf bag please and thank you!!!

  526. Tracey A
    03/22/2013 at 8:20 pm

    MMD – We’ve ALL had to put up with Lindsay Lohan. I’m SICK of seeing Skank #2 in the news. She needs to go to jail. If it were any of us, we’d be behind bars. Pathetic!!!

  527. 03/22/2013 at 8:21 pm

    I didnt grow up in Oz though MMD

  528. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:21 pm

    Syntara :
    I really feel so very very very bad for the Alexander family and they are so poised and regal in the courtroom.
    You can see so starkly who the trash is and that is not a term I ever use but in this instance there is no more to say than that about that mommy dearest and her terrible twin

    You pretty well summed it up Syn! Thanks.

  529. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:23 pm

    Syntara :
    I didnt grow up in Oz though MMD

    Well then what the hell is your excuse then????????????? Normal people and I use that term loosely, don’t eat that crap!

  530. Marilyn N
  531. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:24 pm

    Dr TestifiesForTeeth at his home office (desk)

  532. 03/22/2013 at 8:24 pm

    Does anyone have a copy of the police report of the robbery at her grandfather’s?

  533. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:25 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – We’ve ALL had to put up with Lindsay Lohan. I’m SICK of seeing Skank #2 in the news. She needs to go to jail. If it were any of us, we’d be behind bars. Pathetic!!!

    I know, you can’t escape her. Now she got off with 90 days of rehab at a lockdown facility in NY. Only problem, the judge in CA didn’t realize that there is no such thing as lockdown rehab in NY State.

  534. 03/22/2013 at 8:26 pm

    Is that Dr Dodgy at home in his office?

  535. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 8:26 pm

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/true-crime/exclusive-jodi-arias-desperate-escape-plan

    Here’s the article about the pedophile letters, Syntara

  536. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 8:27 pm

    Just did an investigation of Vegemite…….
    http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/VegemiteHistory.htm

  537. 03/22/2013 at 8:28 pm

    bubblebutts
    Does anyone have a copy of the police report of the robbery at her grandfather’s?

    That would be good to see.

  538. Observer
    03/22/2013 at 8:29 pm

    Thank you Nancy for the link to Tanisha Sorrensen’s Facebook message to the supporters of her brother Travis and their family. I think these words show the true character of Travis and his family: “You have all been here for us and we feel your love, we feel your sacrifice, we feel your support, and we Know Our Heavenly Father hears your prayers and He will not let us down, it’s our faith in him and Jesus Christ that we will see Justice for Travis and feel the love The Lord has for us. We are all blessed that thru the Atonement we will return to live With Our Heavenly father, Jesus Christ, and our Eternal families again. I look forward to living with my parents again, I look forward to living with My Brother TRAVIS again, I look forward to giving him the biggest hug I can think of giving , I look forward to as I’m passing out of this life into the next life hearing him sing as I’m arriving there, I look forward to meeting you all in Heaven someday, and I know I will see you there. Travis will see you there and hug each one of you for showing his family love thru these hard days. Travis will greet you there and he will be gearing up to make you laugh and smile and make you feel the Love he has for all of you!”

  539. 03/22/2013 at 8:30 pm

    Syntara :
    I didnt grow up in Oz though MMD

    MMD: Well then what the hell is your excuse then????????????? Normal people and I use that term loosely, don’t eat that crap!

    I like it!

  540. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:30 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Does anyone have a copy of the police report of the robbery at her grandfather’s?

    Hey Bubbles! I’ve been on the hunt for that for ages, it’s not with any of the court docs that I have found. The only one I’ve found from Yreka is about the burglary – The only Flores report is when they found Travis and the interviews thereafter. I did find the info on 9mm gun, and that they found a box of knives in her packed stuff when she was attempting to flee. But no report made public, (that I can find) as of yet.

  541. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:32 pm

    NancyB :
    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/true-crime/exclusive-jodi-arias-desperate-escape-plan
    Here’s the article about the pedophile letters, Syntara

    Even the Enquirer didn’t want their trash, I don’t think you can sink any lower than that.

  542. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:33 pm

    Syntara :
    Is that Dr Dodgy at home in his office?

    Yep

  543. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 8:35 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Does anyone have a copy of the police report of the robbery at her grandfather’s?

    BB: I recall seeing photos of the burgled grandparents home and reading that the police
    were suspicious about it – (Jodi staged it).
    Now I need to hunt that down.
    Will post if I find.

  544. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 8:36 pm

    This may be a repost but it is a great summary from Chris Stark as to why she thinks Travis was not expecting JA at 4am:

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8sv5p

  545. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 8:36 pm

    This is the crap that she’s doing in court!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/29/jodi-arias-courtroom-drawing_n_2576387.html

    Observer – It was Anna that posted the link 🙂

  546. 03/22/2013 at 8:45 pm

    Syntara :
    Is that Dr Dodgy at home in his office?

    Chrissie Yep

    LOL!!! Thought so!

  547. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 8:47 pm

    Marilyn N :
    a new Crime Time

    I didn’t know about this site. I’m watching it now and it’s actually putting me to sleep. I guess it’s because they are preaching to the choir with me!

  548. 03/22/2013 at 8:48 pm

    Did she actually get there at 4am? Has anything come up that proves that? Ive missed it if it has.

  549. Kimmy
    03/22/2013 at 8:49 pm

    MMD :

    Kimmy :
    Oh yay I got my official greeting from you MMD! When can I get my foil hat? Now I feel a part of the group. I’ve been following and following this forum and damn I am mad at WillNOT now! I was so hoping JM could get in his cross before poor Jodi had to be done by 4:30. I love all you guys and your wonderful insight. Never even knew of this case until an ABC article on the internet in January then found this site. Syntara and Chrissie A you guys rock as you do MMD!

    Ah, so you have been lurking all along and have seen my welcome before. I’m so glad you finally decided to join us. I lurked for the longest time before I commented because some of the comments on other sites, not necessarily about this topic, were just down right scary! I’m so glad that I did get brave enough because this is such an awesome blog and donchais is a passionate advocate for victims! She also protects us from all the trolls that are out there and God knows, there are tons. Truly it is only the way to get through this trial while maintaining some semblance of sanity.
    Donchais and the others have provided humor when it’s needed while still firmly keeping the focus on the fact that this trial is about justice for Travis and his family and not the JA show, as much as JA would like it to be.
    If you have been lurking then you know that there is a vast range in ages, life experiences as well as even countries. Donchais truly has a global site here and I’m still thrilled every day that I found it.
    I think I said one day that it felt like we had all died and gone to donchais heaven, complete with her recap, humor, and it was like it came with chocolate sauce and a cherry on top! And I feel that each day when I see a new recap. Obviously though, Kimmy, if you’ve been lurking then you know all this and I’m preaching to the choir!
    So jump right in. I know I did and to their dismay, they haven’t been able to shut be down since!!!

    Tee hee you caught me! Been lurking for months and reading about some of the terrible things that have happened to this great group of people. I too have endured tragedy when my mother was murdered 21 years ago while I was in the house. It’s a really long story but I was diagnosed with PTSD a few years afterwards by my Psychologist when I finally sought counseling.. I haven’t told the story in a long time but recently a friend of mine asked me about what had happened and do you know it was like I went back in time. She was amazed at the details I could remember and walking through it step by step and how emotional I got up to and after the shooting part. You really do keep this stored in a flile cabinet in your brain somewhere. So when I started watching this trial and seeing JA claim this just really pisses me off, and that “BONEHEAD” she has testifying to this BS! I have the highest regards and respect for my Pyscholocist and how he helped me, but this baffoon really gives that fielld a bad name. God get him off the stand please!!

    Enjoyed reading your posts tonight too! Thank you Donchais for this website. It’s the best!

  550. 03/22/2013 at 8:58 pm

    I’ve had a lot of good luck while studying/researching/writing about a few cases contacting police departments and having them fax me copies of the incident reports. Some will email. They’ve always been free. In OJ’s case there were dozens. Also, contacting the local crime beat reporter writing about the case for the Podunk Local are usually keen to help an official sounding investigator…There is a police report concerning the “theft.” Freedom of Information Act. A FOIA request. It’s up to you web-sleuths, I have other fish to fry. But knowing what kind of .25 it was would tell you if there was a safety, a hammer, semi-auto or revolver. The point is pretty much moot…but guns just don’t go off

  551. 03/22/2013 at 8:58 pm

    off to get zzzzzzs everyone. See you all soon 🙂

    thanks for all the help too really appreciated.

    *waves*

  552. Kimmy
    03/22/2013 at 9:06 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Syntara :

    photo/1

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  553. Nancy Pennington
    03/22/2013 at 9:07 pm

    MMD & Syntara: speaking of godawful stuff. Ever tried Durian (sp)????

  554. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:09 pm

    MarilynN – I take that back about preaching to the choir, They really don’t like my man JM so obviously there is something wrong with them!!!! They think he is rude and shouldn’t be asking about memory problems. They’ve totally lost me now! 😦

  555. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:10 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Does anyone know the brand/model of gun that was “stolen” from the grandparents?

    These are the only notes I have on the gun at the mo (from an AZ Atty.who gives out info when poss )

    Gun info:
    25 caliber automatic pistol 3 to 4 inches long with black grip loaded with 7 rounds jacketed hollow point bullets
    Missing from dresser in the bedroom.
    Grandpa inherited gun from cousin Norman Blowers, quite old not registered & he didn’t know the serial number
    (to clarify fully loaded magazine was also taken with the gun so sounds like it was unloaded in house but magazine was by the gun)

  556. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:12 pm

    Syntara :
    off to get zzzzzzs everyone. See you all soon
    thanks for all the help too really appreciated.
    *waves*

    Nite nite honey, I’m gonna be off in a mo too – virtual hugs –

  557. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:13 pm

    Chrissie A – Winchester bullets weighing 50 gms? I remember seeing that somewhere!

  558. 03/22/2013 at 9:13 pm

    why didn’t he give her the psychopathy test, she would have passed with flying colors because, she fits the psychopath criteria Syntara, I too love Juan, but you’re safe, I’m on the other team:)

  559. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:13 pm

    Syntara :
    Did she actually get there at 4am? Has anything come up that proves that? Ive missed it if it has.

    I think that is a grey area, we may know more in rebuttal 🙂

  560. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:14 pm

    Grampa’s bullets were the same brand as found at crime scene and same weight,

  561. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:15 pm

    MMD :
    Chrissie A – Winchester bullets weighing 50 gms? I remember seeing that somewhere!

    Chris Stark has a photo of that, but I don’t think the model has been confirmed, plse correct me if I am wrong

  562. Berndatte
    03/22/2013 at 9:20 pm

    OMG the comments on this blog are almost as good as the main report (thanks so much donchais!)

  563. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:23 pm

    MMD :
    Grampa’s bullets were the same brand as found at crime scene and same weight,

    Here is the pic from Chris Stark’ page:

    http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/stark39232/media/ammo_zps3a20e2b0.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

  564. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 9:24 pm

    Syntara, No proof just JA’s claim that she did.

    “Martinez had Jodi Arias for dinner and he ate this guy for dessert. It is as if Jodi Arias was Bernie Madoff and [Samuels] would have invested his life savings in what she is telling him. That’s where he made his mistake. What a good expert would do is say, ‘Look, I know I am dealing with a bald-faced liar. The last thing I am going to do is ride that horse as the basis of my opinions. I’ll consider what she has to say, but I recognize that this woman is an admitted liar.”
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-amnesia-defense-fails-convince-expert/story?id=18774548#.UU0BtzdXo4R

  565. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:26 pm

    NancyB :
    This is the crap that she’s doing in court!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/29/jodi-arias-courtroom-drawing_n_2576387.html
    Observer – It was Anna that posted the link

    Even I can draw better than that, and this is being sold?

  566. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:33 pm

    Kimmy :

    Been lurking for months and reading about some of the terrible things that have happened to this great group of people. I too have endured tragedy when my mother was murdered 21 years ago while I was in the house.

    Whoa Kimmy, that is devastating, I am so sorry that you went through that. I am literally at a loss for words at the moment – I just want to give you a big hug!

  567. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:33 pm

    Chrissie – just know about bullets. Nada about gun except 25. Saw court docs that were purchased plus report about stolen gun.

  568. 03/22/2013 at 9:39 pm

    Chrissie A. Thanks for that info. So that’s a semi-auto. Surely there would be a safety, and one would have to chamber a round of that magazine fed gun. It’d be interesting to ask Jodi what did the gun look like that you shot travis with? You say you saw him load it. How did he do that?

  569. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 9:44 pm

    MMD :
    MarilynN – I take that back about preaching to the choir, They really don’t like my man JM so obviously there is something wrong with them!!!! They think he is rude and shouldn’t be asking about memory problems. They’ve totally lost me now!

    Sorry MM – They were just giving “constructive criticism”. I think they like JM a ton better
    than the other side!! Anyway, I usually enjoy their weekly discussion so thought I’d share.

  570. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:47 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Chrissie A. Thanks for that info.

    You are welcome – I think we will hear Juan bringing that up in rebuttal.

  571. Marilyn N
    03/22/2013 at 9:48 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Chrissie A. Thanks for that info. So that’s a semi-auto. Surely there would be a safety, and one would have to chamber a round of that magazine fed gun. It’d be interesting to ask Jodi what did the gun look like that you shot travis with? You say you saw him load it. How did he do that?

    Good question for Jodi re: how to load the gun. Since no bullets were found in his
    house, he obviously didn’t have any bullets for “his” gun

  572. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:49 pm

    Kimmy :
    Tee hee you caught me! Been lurking for months and reading about some of the terrible things that have happened to this great group of people. I too have endured tragedy when my mother was murdered 21 years ago while I was in the house. It’s a really long story but I was diagnosed with PTSD a few years afterwards by my Psychologist when I finally sought counseling.. I haven’t told the story in a long time but recently a friend of mine asked me about what had happened and do you know it was like I went back in time. She was amazed at the details I could remember and walking through it step by step and how emotional I got up to and after the shooting part. You really do keep this stored in a file cabinet in your brain somewhere. So when I started watching this trial and seeing JA claim this just really pisses me off, and that “BONEHEAD” she has testifying to this BS! I have the highest regards and respect for my Psychologist and how he helped me, but this baffoon really gives that field a bad name. God get him off the stand please!!

    Oh Kimmy, i’m so sorry to hear this and what you had to go through, So many of us here have gone through various traumas and you have our full support. If there is anything we can do or anything you need just let us know. Feel free to talk about this as often or as little as you want.

    I think that so many of us feel the way that you do, although not for the same reasons. I can’t imagine having your Mum murdered. So awful. But the thing is, even after all these years you never forget the details. That is why Dr. Quack is upsetting so many of us because he is making a mockery of true professionals and diminishing what the true survivors of PTSD or abuse have and are still going through. I really hope I am making sense because I am almost asleep and soooooo sleep deprived.

    Thank you Kimmy for sharing and know that you are among friends, I know that it takes a leap of faith to talk about these things and to put your trust in other people. We’ll help you any way that you want, All you have to do is ask. 🙂

    Sending hugs {{{{{ }}}}} to you!!! Once again, thanks for sharing. I know it’s not easy.

  573. Chrissie A
    03/22/2013 at 9:51 pm

    Bye guys, have to take care of da kidz & hubby needs feeding – Thanks for all the great commentary – talk soon ~~~ virtual hugs to all ~~~ Thanks so much Donchais !!!!

  574. 03/22/2013 at 9:54 pm

    Also, if one of my guns were stolen, I would know the brand, at least. Even if it was a POS like a Jennings, or a Grendal. And I would have fired it into a tree outside my trailer, if not into a phonebook in my own house. What kind of gun was it, sir? I dunno, it looked like a toy, or a squirt gun…that shot bullits.

  575. MMD
    03/22/2013 at 9:56 pm

    I’m off too, Fading really fast. Will be here tomorrow Kimmy if you want to talk. Thanks to everyone, especially our awesome host!!!. *******waves*********

  576. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 9:57 pm

    OMG Kimmy my heart goes out to you. I’m so sorry that happened to your mother and you. How old were you? ((((((hugs))))))

  577. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 10:01 pm

    bubblebutts :
    I’ve had a lot of good luck while studying/researching/writing about a few cases contacting police departments and having them fax me copies of the incident reports. Some will email. They’ve always been free. In OJ’s case there were dozens. Also, contacting the
    local crime beat reporter writing about the case for the Podunk Local are usually keen to help an official sounding investigator…There is a police report concerning the “theft.” Freedom of Information Act. A FOIA request. It’s up to you web-sleuths, I have other fish to fry. But knowing what kind of .25 it was would tell you if there was a safety, a hammer, semi-auto or revolver. The point is pretty much moot…but guns just don’t go off

    Bubble, I know zip about guns. I had no idea that there are different kinds of 25 caliber’s. Thks

  578. NancyB
    03/22/2013 at 10:17 pm

    Kimmy –

    JA’s emotions are completely absent. When people experience severe trauma, their memory and emotions become deeply intertwined, and when they recount their story, their emotions always come flooding back. Yet Arias is an exception here. Arias doesn’t show any true emotions outside of flickers of joy when she thinks she’s pulling one over on Juan or something like that. Her laughing in the video where she does the handstand is that same evil joy. That’s why all of us knew from the beginning of listening to her tell all her lies that she was lying. Decades later you can recall minute details of that horrific day. It’s ingrained into every neuron in your brain. Same with Bubblebutts’s PTSD from surviving horrors of fire fights in the war.

  579. 03/22/2013 at 10:18 pm

    Dr Syn: just saw you are off for some zzzzzzz. Think you have earned them today.
    I watched the video of Robert Hare and corporate psychopathy. Found it riveting. He nailed ja to a “t”. My question is this: is psychopathy something a person is born with (genetics) or is it something that comes about as a child grows? Is there any rehabilitation or because they probably think they do not have a problem they are who they are. My smartphone was going caddywampus so I could not view other videos. Hope you had a good rest and great swim. What is Vegemite (sp?)?

  580. Anna
    03/22/2013 at 10:21 pm

    I have no idea what this is from, but stop everything and watch it now: http://www.eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

  581. Kimmy
    03/22/2013 at 10:39 pm

    MMD :

    Kimmy :
    Tee hee you caught me! Been lurking for months and reading about some of the terrible things that have happened to this great group of people. I too have endured tragedy when my mother was murdered 21 years ago while I was in the house. It’s a really long story but I was diagnosed with PTSD a few years afterwards by my Psychologist when I finally sought counseling.. I haven’t told the story in a long time but recently a friend of mine asked me about what had happened and do you know it was like I went back in time. She was amazed at the details I could remember and walking through it step by step and how emotional I got up to and after the shooting part. You really do keep this stored in a file cabinet in your brain somewhere. So when I started watching this trial and seeing JA claim this just really pisses me off, and that “BONEHEAD” she has testifying to this BS! I have the highest regards and respect for my Psychologist and how he helped me, but this baffoon really gives that field a bad name. God get him off the stand please!!

    Oh Kimmy, i’m so sorry to hear this and what you had to go through, So many of us here have gone through various traumas and you have our full support. If there is anything we can do or anything you need just let us know. Feel free to talk about this as often or as little as you want.
    I think that so many of us feel the way that you do, although not for the same reasons. I can’t imagine having your Mum murdered. So awful. But the thing is, even after all these years you never forget the details. That is why Dr. Quack is upsetting so many of us because he is making a mockery of true professionals and diminishing what the true survivors of PTSD or abuse have and are still going through. I really hope I am making sense because I am almost asleep and soooooo sleep deprived.
    Thank you Kimmy for sharing and know that you are among friends, I know that it takes a leap of faith to talk about these things and to put your trust in other people. We’ll help you any way that you want, All you have to do is ask.
    Sending hugs {{{{{ }}}}} to you!!! Once again, thanks for sharing. I know it’s not easy.

    Awww you guys are best but I just wanted to share my story and say that Phycology does work and is a good thing to us normal folk. (I think I just spelled Phycology every which way wrong I could) JA not normal, AT ALL! It’s been 21 years and time has healed the wounds but the scar will always be there. Thanks for the hugs guys. 🙂

    Oh and I love the photo you now have MMD as your screen saver of Juan Baby. Did you read the awesome posts on the FB comments? He truely is a HERO in AZ! That is so cool!

  582. Marilyn N
  583. Kimmy
    03/22/2013 at 10:44 pm

    NancyB :
    OMG Kimmy my heart goes out to you. I’m so sorry that happened to your mother and you. How old were you? ((((((hugs))))))

    A very young age of 24 and she was just 44. Thanks for the hugs.

  584. Lisa M
    03/22/2013 at 11:19 pm

    I wonder if Jodi more closely fits the personality profile of a narcissist or a psychopath. She seems to have symptoms of both conditions. I’d say she’s a full-blown psychopath except that she seems to have experienced shame at times in court, which a psychopath might not have. Like when the phone sex recording was being played or when she had to watch the interrogation videos or interviews of her lying.
    So if someone is a psychopath does he have free will? If u have no conscience, how can you be held accountable for committing crimes? I’m not saying we shouldn’t hold people redponsible forbtheir behavior. Pbut its an interesting conundrum that as a society we accept that psychopaths are abnormal b/c of their genetic makeup or because of environmental causes but we still operate in terms of our justice system as if they have free will. Does a psychopath have free will? If you believe that it’s a real condition, you have to agree that his/her free will would be severely impacted. They have poor impulse control, no empathy and little anxiety or concern for consequences so so if the opportunity arises theyre likely to avt criminally. Yet we have no sympathy for psychopaths the way some of us might for schizophrenics even though its hard to sympathize with them even when they’ve done really horrible things. It’s human nature to need to blame someone for the simple fact that the vast majority of us are held accountable for our behavior and grow up experiencing remorse or shame when we do something wrong. Its just a visceral thing that we blame people for their behavior no matter how much we might be faced with the fact that they have a mental condition or personality disorder.
    Not that I’m advocating that psychopaths should be free running around the streets!

  585. Kimmy
    03/22/2013 at 11:28 pm

    Chrissie A :

    Kimmy :

    Been lurking for months and reading about some of the terrible things that have happened to this great group of people. I too have endured tragedy when my mother was murdered 21 years ago while I was in the house.

    Whoa Kimmy, that is devastating, I am so sorry that you went through that. I am literally at a loss for words at the moment – I just want to give you a big hug!

    Feeling the hug and thank you Chrissie for concern. I just wanted to share my story and I’m so glad I found this site. I wish I could hug each of the Alexander family members and let know I know how they feel.

  586. Lisa M
    03/22/2013 at 11:29 pm

    Oops my post got cut off and sorry for the typos! Looks like Vickee and I are on the same page! I don’t think they know if psychopaths are formed because of environmental factors or genetic/brain abnormalities. Prob a combo of both. I think instead of getting enraged at them maybe we should pity them. Just because they believe they have power doesn’t mean they do. We just have to keep them locked up so they can’t hurt other people.

  587. Lisa M
    03/22/2013 at 11:33 pm

    Correction: my long-winded post didn’t get cut off. Just my phone acting up!

  588. LadyInRed
    03/23/2013 at 12:03 am

    May LIR impose for a collective “amen”?? Finally Friday, and got squished (mamo) and scanned (bone density) today; survived both without glowing in the dark, and donated a beaded prom dress to a worthy cause tonight locally for those less fortunate!

  589. LadyInRed
    03/23/2013 at 12:06 am

    Kimmy :

    NancyB :
    OMG Kimmy my heart goes out to you. I’m so sorry that happened to your mother and you. How old were you? ((((((hugs))))))

    A very young age of 24 and she was just 44. Thanks for the hugs.

    Sending peace, joy and sunshine to you, Kimmy.

  590. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 12:08 am

    Lisa M Re: Post 596, Pat Brown, FBI profiler, said psychopaths who kill should be put to death because they have no conscience, no empathy for their victims and no remorse, they will kill again and they manipulate the system and thrive in prison. Jodi is not ashamed of what she did. She is embarrassed that the whole world knows she stabbed Travis 29 times, cut hiws throat and shot him in the head. When she was being arrested she asked if she could put her makeup on for her mug shot and if her arrest would be on the news and Travis’s family would find out.

    The first three years Jodi was in jail she gave several interviews on local and national networks saying she was innocent and would never hurt Travis. She wrote an 18 page letter top his family telling them two masked intruders killed Travis, not her. She sent flowers to his grandmother. In the trial, she is accusing Travis of despicable crimes to justify why she slaughtered him. She cared only about what people thought of her. Not that she deprived Travis of a bright future and his family, friends and the world of what he could have done if he had lived.

  591. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 12:15 am

    I found the Yreka Police Report! You may have to scroll down half the page to get there. It’s 5 pages

    https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis

  592. John
    03/23/2013 at 12:20 am

    PK :

    Chrissie A :

    Jill :
    Hi, Does anyone know why jodi was smiling towards the jury as they went to recess earlier today
    , and then whispering to her attorney to look at the jury leaving? and then the attorney looked and smiled too? Ty.

    Hi Jill – From the reports I’ve heard it seems that she thinks she has a “Juror Buddy” but maybe the juror is playing her – lol

    Or even better yet, her “Juror Buddy” will not be included in the 12 who will decide her fate and no way will she know that until the 12 return with the verdict with no “Buddy” in sight.

    If she does have a juror buddy,I hope that he(or she) is into “backdoor sex” with a sociopath cold blooded murdering nymphomaniac! The juror buddy might need to seek “counseling” from from the quack DR.S. and arrange payment with a free root canal! LOL!!! Sorry to sound so snarki but I have learned it from the BEST…our fearless leader,Donchais! TY!!!

  593. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/23/2013 at 12:29 am

    NancyB :
    I found the Yreka Police Report! You may have to scroll down half the page to get there. It’s 5 pages
    https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis

    Great! Just what we’ve been looking for!! Thanks Nancy!

  594. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:57 am

    NancyB – I don’t see the Yreka Police Report?? But I love the picture of the court room
    that we never see during the trial, from the juror’s perspective.
    Also, that is one spooky picture of Jodi on page 2 of 265!!
    Thanks Nancy!

  595. 03/23/2013 at 1:01 am

    Nancy P

    Nancy Pennington :
    MMD & Syntara: speaking of godawful stuff. Ever tried Durian (sp)????

    Omg you are sooooo right. In Singapore the have like No smoking signs but with durians in place of the cigarette, on the train system and some other places. Cos of the smell!

    That’s soooo an acquired taste!!

  596. 03/23/2013 at 1:15 am

    Shirley Pare :
    why didn’t he give her the psychopathy test, she would have passed with flying colors because, she fits the psychopath criteria Syntara, I too love Juan, but you’re safe, I’m on the other team:)

    I think it is because he veered away from a Personality Disorder Diagnosis because it would invalidate PTSD or he is simply unaware of the mountain of new research of the last 15-20 years. Whichever way you choose to view it the result is deliberately misleading or gross incompetence. Both being severely reprimand-able I suggest.

  597. Marilyn N
  598. 03/23/2013 at 1:27 am

    Lisa M

    I wonder if Jodi more closely fits the personality profile of a narcissist or a psychopath. She seems to have symptoms of both conditions eitag

    Psychopaths are narcissists Psychopaths display all narcissistic traits with important addition. To say a psychopath is a narcissist is redundant because ALL psychpaths are narcissists. I feel like a broken record on this cos Ive said it so many times and apologies for harping on it but it seems Im not saying it right or something. Let me try it this way.

    Someone who displays the characteristic of a narcissist may not have the additional traits to deem them psychopathic. A psychopath MUST display the characteristic of a narcissist but have additional traits like lack of conscience ergo lack of remorse, flat affect, glibness.

  599. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/23/2013 at 1:35 am

    Marilyn N :
    NancyB – I don’t see the Yreka Police Report??

    Well we couldn’t find it either. Anyone else have any luck?

  600. 03/23/2013 at 1:37 am

    This evening I went back and watched the JA testimony from Feb 19 (re: JA moving to AZ AFTER the breakup and the texts and emails between JA and TA that last week of March into April of 2008). Wormy Nurmi and JA tried to imply that JA moved back to Yreka to get away from TA. But the truth has since come out that she was in dire straights financially.

    It’s clear that JA was becoming pretty desperate during this time period. The more games and made up stories JA came up with in an attempt to control and stay involved with TA, the more exasperated TA became with her. The texts he sent her were quite enlightening as to what she was up to. He was absolutely fed up with her and trying desperately to break free of her altogether.

    Did any of you see JA and her attorneys smiling and smirking Thursday at JM during his cross of RS?? Her attorneys are a disgrace. They are supposed to be respectful officers of the Court. I would like to ask Wilmont and Wormy Nurmi if they would want their son “involved” with JA? If by some huge misstep JA would ever again regain her freedom, she WILL be involved with someone’s son, brother and become their worst nightmare.

  601. 03/23/2013 at 1:44 am

    Lisa M

    So if someone is a psychopath does he have free will? If u have no conscience, how can you be held accountable for committing crimes?

    Did you watch the Dr Robert Hare vid? He explains this with the following.

    Psychopaths know the are doing wrong .. Ie they wont commit the crime in front of a policeman they will wait til he walks away to do it.. .They don’t feel bad about doing it, they just don’t want to be caught doing it. So yes, they definitely have free will.

    in this case Jodi planned it meticulously to avoid detection ie not to get caught

    … and when things went wrong tried (unsuccessfully) to cover her tracks

    She knew and knows exactly what she is/was doing she just feels entitled to do it and to hell with paying consequences. She believes ( because of her narcissism) that she can lie her way out of it. Evidenced by her no jury will ever convict me statement.

  602. 03/23/2013 at 2:00 am

    Lisa M
    Oops my post got cut off and sorry for the typos! Looks like Vickee and I are on the same page! I don’t think they know if psychopaths are formed because of environmental factors or genetic/brain abnormalities. Prob a combo of both. I think instead of getting enraged at them maybe we should pity them. Just because they believe they have power doesn’t mean they do. We just have to keep them locked up so they can’t hurt other people.

    – How do you lock up the ones that haven’t been caught yet? Only a very small percentage of psychopaths are incarcerated most live amoung us.

    – Never pity a psychopath, that would be a mistake. Look what’s happening to Dr Samuels he is the poster child for why you don’t pity a psychopath. They will turn around and take full advantage of you and relish in your pain they get you into,

    – As Dr Hare said in the vid I posted the other day re the MRI tests he performed.. They do not know what causes it could be genetic, environmental or a combo.

    Robert Hare covers all this in his book Without Conscience I highly recommend you grab it.

  603. 03/23/2013 at 2:16 am

    Vickee

    My question is this: is psychopathy something a person is born with (genetics) or is it something that comes about as a child grows?

    I’ll find the MRI link again for you.

  604. 03/23/2013 at 2:23 am

    Vickee

    Not sure if this is same link as other day but this is the vid Of it.

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=oaTfdKYbudk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoaTfdKYbudk

  605. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 2:50 am

    Ruh Roh,,,Syn, did you get a decent night’s sleep??? Just asking cuz I don’t want MMD to open a major can of Wup Ass on ya! Don’t hate on me. Just checking on you dearie! We need you here to keep sanity on track especially when so much insanity abounds. You bring such humor and insight!! 😉

    debnal I did notice the defense attorneys smirking and smiling. Completely inappropriate! They remind me of JA’s mother and aunt. WTH is so damn funny to those people???? It’s disgusting.

    Cici I couldn’t find the police report either.

    Just trying to get caught up…

  606. 03/23/2013 at 2:50 am

    Vickee – I just watched that vid. Im really doubting it’s the same link I posted the other day now because it cuts off right before he says it’s not known if its genetic, enviro or both I thought the one I posted the other day did but I cant find it now to check.

    Anyhow… Im reasonably sure you can see he’s about to say it as this one finishes with they dont know if it is choice or not. Let me know what you get from it please.

    Syn

  607. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 2:51 am

    It’s on March 18th –you have to keep scrolling down and it’s right there. Going to sleep now…see you all tomr.

  608. 03/23/2013 at 2:53 am

    Tracey – going for my swim then I’ll be getting more zzzz phone woke me. So plse don’t tell you know who aka Ms Bossy boots Canuk

  609. 03/23/2013 at 2:59 am

    Night NancyB

  610. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 3:11 am

    Vickee Syntara will correct me if I’m wrong but I believe you are born a psychopath. My sister is one. We haven’t spoken in almost 10 years. What she put my mother and grandmother through was a nightmare. We shared a room together until I was 17 (I’m the eldest) and moved out. If you asked her and I about our childhood we would have completely different versions. She’s also narcissistic and a sociopath. She could spin stories that could match JA’s with the same amount of detail and drama.

    And Syn When you stated never to trust a psychopath, I NEVER trusted my sister. I knew it would dangerous and had to take steps to prove to my mom what she was. My mother to this day wonders what she did so wrong and where she went so wrong with sister. My mom blames herself and that breaks my heart.

    Thanks for letting me vent.

  611. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 3:13 am

    Syn – Good Girl! Enjoy that swim! My lips are sealed to the bossy Canuk.

  612. 03/23/2013 at 3:16 am

    I went to 18th posts looking for burglary report no luck But found a post from Gateway Id never seen. Must have benn in moderation and I never saw it at the time.

    Its very interesting it has something in it that really caught my attention:

    “She wears a “Belly Band” around her stomach underneath her clothes. It was explained that there is a sheriff or deputy to ZAP her with it if she should get out of hand or go BERZERK.
    I sooooo want that to happen or have the Alexander family holding the zapper!! ”

    Gateway where are you?

  613. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 3:16 am

    Nancy B. Thanks for updating that. I’m looking forward to seeing that too. I’m going to bed too. After midnight my time. See you all tomorrow. ****waves bye to all****

  614. 03/23/2013 at 3:36 am

    Tracey A and Vickee re psychopath cause. Jury is out Hare and his team researching it. Could be genetic, enviro or even choice.

    Hare delineates sociopathy and psychopathe with choice. He tends to think pschopathy is born with and sociopathy is choice to be like that.

    Example I saw him use was from a movie where two hitmen were disussing killing ppl.

    One goes something like . I do it cos it’s part of the job, him over there does it cos he enjoys it.

    First being sociopathic second being psychopathic. I love Dr Bob Hare (soz Jan baby love you too) and to me his distinction not only makes sense it feels right but its very hard to diagnose a 3 yr old as a psychopath because how do you know?

    They need a study of possibles and monitor brain scans as the grow and if one turns ot to be a psychopath the get some raw dta. then perhaps from that devise a test.

    Thomas Sheridan goes a lot into the ethical ramifications or this. ie leading to a Huxley brave new world type situation. Thats where things start getting really murky and scary. With some doctors researching into terrible solutions like removing parts of the brain.

    I’m totally against that but I can see many arguing it’s benefits if no other rehabilitation is found.

    There’s also pharma drugs, locking them up before they commit crimes, trying to zap them a la the dark times of shock tratment. Horror story suggestions which scare me.

  615. 03/23/2013 at 3:37 am

    Night Tracey *waves back*

  616. 03/23/2013 at 3:41 am

    Bbl sleep well all!

  617. Laine
    03/23/2013 at 6:48 am

    Hi everyone! I have a couple of videos for you to watch on youtube. David Micheal has put together a part 1 & 2 called Finding Premeditaion. They had been posted on Twitter and initially I wanted to watch them because of my obsesssion with this case and looking at everything ordinary people are doing to try to insure Travis gets his Justice. However at the end of the second video David asks for help and volunteers to look for the gun….impossible…Crazy! but….sometimes miracles happen, and I believe you should always at least try the impossible! Take a look and see what you think!!

  618. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 6:49 am

    Hi guys, can’t seem to find the wizard tonight (or this morning) so I did some checking around for any new stuff relating to the case – Here are 2 well put together new youtube videos titled “Finding Premeditation” Part 1 & Part 2 (Best viewed in full screen) Not only do the videos cover her timeline, they have also narrowed down the areas where she may have dumped the gun, by liking the videos, it is hoped to get sponsors to enable a search of those areas:

    Part one: http://youtu.be/LoQoF-UE6I8

    Part two: http://youtu.be/CskWKO3gW2E

    I’m not sure what time I will be back on as I am still up, but would you mind reposting these as more peeps join the room during the day so that they get a chance to see and “like” them.

    Also 2 police reports that can be viewed here;

    Yreka (so called) Burglary
    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-robbery-report-of-jodis-grandparents.html

    Flores Report:
    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/police-files-on-jodi-arias.html#more

    JA Indicment – Best in full screen:
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/109828551/Jodi-Arias-Court-Documents

    Now I’m going to find the wizard ~~~~Hugs to all~~~~

  619. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:11 am

    Anna :
    I have no idea what this is from, but stop everything and watch it now: http://www.eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

    Your wish is my command! I immediately clicked on and watched and OMG that is absolutely freaking hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!! What a great way to start the morning!!!! We need to have it play automatically when ever someone from the defense opens their mouth. Too too funny !!!!! LOL 🙂

  620. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:25 am

    Lisa M :
    I wonder if Jodi more closely fits the personality profile of a narcissist or a psychopath. She seems to have symptoms of both conditions. I’d say she’s a full-blown psychopath except that she seems to have experienced shame at times in court, which a psychopath might not have. Like when the phone sex recording was being played or when she had to watch the interrogation videos or interviews of her lying.

    I’ll put in my 2 cents worth on the first part for what it’s worth since they are no longer making pennies in Canada.

    I believe that all psychopaths are narcissists. I have not seen her exhibit any true shame in court what so ever. I think that she knows she should ‘show’ shame as most people would and stay on script but has done a very poor job of both. I feel she is incapable of true shame because in her mind it is more anger that it is even being shown or that she has been caught and it is someone else’s fault – never her own.

    That is why we can’t understand her actions because there is no way we can relate to them.

    As for the rest, I defer to Syn. Way above my pay grade!!! 🙂

  621. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:29 am

    LadyInRed :
    May LIR impose for a collective “amen”?? Finally Friday, and got squished (mamo) and scanned (bone density) today; survived both without glowing in the dark, and donated a beaded prom dress to a worthy cause tonight locally for those less fortunate!

    Congrats for surviving – those foil hats really are useful for so may things (see Anna’s post #593 above) and thank you for your donation,

    As for it finally being Friday, it’s seemed like Thursday is Friday ever since this damn trial started with the odd court week!!! 🙂

  622. 03/23/2013 at 7:31 am

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    “Compassion is a waste of present moment time where you could be feeling happy”
    Don’t you love this sentence after Dr Wacko’s use of the word. THIS is the book the neutral observer gives to the woman jailed for a vicious murder. I guess she shouldn’t “feel bad”about slicing up poor Travis; that would be our fault for “feeling”This clown set back psychology in the eyes of the public for a few decades.

    Hahaha omg just read this and the second perspective jumped in… Oh Robert you are soooooo right. He says he gave her the bok because he felt compassion, but if the book he gave says compassion is a waste of time… Why did he really give her the book?

    Lust? Love? Permission???

    This just gets worse lol!

  623. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:36 am

    Observer :
    Lisa M Re: Post 596, Pat Brown, FBI profiler, said psychopaths who kill should be put to death because they have no conscience, no empathy for their victims and no remorse, they will kill again and they manipulate the system and thrive in prison. Jodi is not ashamed of what she did. She is embarrassed that the whole world knows she stabbed Travis 29 times, cut hiws throat and shot him in the head. When she was being arrested she asked if she could put her makeup on for her mug shot and if her arrest would be on the news and Travis’s family would find out.
    The first three years Jodi was in jail she gave several interviews on local and national networks saying she was innocent and would never hurt Travis. She wrote an 18 page letter top his family telling them two masked intruders killed Travis, not her. She sent flowers to his grandmother. In the trial, she is accusing Travis of despicable crimes to justify why she slaughtered him. She cared only about what people thought of her. Not that she deprived Travis of a bright future and his family, friends and the world of what he could have done if he had lived.

    I so agree Observer with everything you said!!! That is why I sooooooooo want her to get the DP. I think she would truly thrive in prison and make a perfectly good life for herself there!

    I can’t remember who I was discussing it with but you said it so much better than I tried to a couple of days ago!!!

    ….. can’t seem to get the fingers to work properly this morning 😦

  624. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:39 am

    Morning Syn ****waves**********

  625. 03/23/2013 at 7:50 am

    Morning MMD how are you feeling?

  626. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:53 am

    NancyB :
    I found the Yreka Police Report! You may have to scroll down half the page to get there. It’s 5 pages
    Still haven’t found the report but did find a bio of Judge Sherry Stephens and another nice picture of our man JM 🙂
    http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/JudicialBiographies/Judges/judicialBio.asp?jdgID=105&jdgUSID=217

  627. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:56 am

    Syntara :
    Morning MMD how are you feeling?

    Really tired – did not sleep well at all. Somehow Chaney Mason, one of Casey Anthony’s attorneys made it into my dream and woke me at 2. Other than that great! How about you darlin’?

    BTW, since you said you didn’t grow up in OZ, where did you?

    signed
    just plain nosy 🙂

  628. 03/23/2013 at 8:01 am

    MMD Probably a country most here have neverheard of – Papua New Guinea

  629. 03/23/2013 at 8:09 am

    MMD:
    Really tired – did not sleep well at all.

    Fitful sleep here too – phone calls and generally mind whirring in my sleep likeit’s a hardrive trying to process a ton of info.

  630. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:10 am

    Found Gus Searcy1 with Judge Judy on YouTube

  631. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:12 am

    Syntara :
    MMD Probably a country most here have neverheard of – Papua New Guinea

    Yep familiar with it – still part of the Commonwealth! 🙂

  632. 03/23/2013 at 8:16 am

    Hah yes it is. Its an incredible place. Actually the place I lived until I was 9 no longer exists it was destroyed in a volcanic eruption in 1994.

  633. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:17 am

    Tracey A :
    Syn – Good Girl! Enjoy that swim! My lips are sealed to the bossy Canuk.

    Saw that LOL 🙂 signed the bossy Canuck!

  634. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:18 am

    Syntara :
    Hah yes it is. Its an incredible place. Actually the place I lived until I was 9 no longer exists it was destroyed in a volcanic eruption in 1994.

    That must be an odd feeling knowing where you actually came from no longer exists!

  635. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:30 am

    debnal :
    Did any of you see JA and her attorneys smiling and smirking Thursday at JM during his cross of RS?? Her attorneys are a disgrace. They are supposed to be respectful officers of the Court. I would like to ask Wilmont and Wormy Nurmi if they would want their son “involved” with JA? If by some huge misstep JA would ever again regain her freedom, she WILL be involved with someone’s son, brother and become their worst nightmare.

    Yup and I have not a drop of respect for anyone on that side. Willmott used to try and fake respect for the court but eventually stopped. Wurmi has never shown a drop of respect to anyone including the court.

    Have you noticed that whenever there is a sidebar that when they come away that Willmott always puts a smile on her face as if ‘she won that round’, even after the judge looks like she was really ticked at her and gave her the what for? Gotta keep up her image with the jurors and the public. LOL

    BTW, haven’t seen you in a while. I wondered where you have been.

  636. 03/23/2013 at 8:31 am

    MMD It’s kind of sad but we had big earthquakes ( 6s were normal the two 8.1 and 8.2 were biggest, 8.1 came with a tsunami). Whole place was a blown out crater that the side blew of 1000s years ago and the ocean rushed in. so deep they never got a measurement of how deep the harbour was.

    basically everyone knew one day one of the parasitic cones would erupt, it just wasn’t theone we all thought it was going to be.

    It’s recovered now all green and lush, beautiful place, beautiful people alway happy and smiling.. No money just shell money in some places can you even imagine that?

    Anyhow they moved the town to a ‘safer’ spot so it has been rebuilt.

  637. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 8:34 am

    HEADS UP!

    This is getting unwieldy, so I created a new entry and will close this one in a few minutes!

    https://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/jodi-arias-murder-trial-day-thirty-six-discussion-continues/

  638. 03/23/2013 at 8:41 am

    Okies everyone… I’ve put together a collage of Dr George K Simon quotes to try to give insight on the difficulties of dealing with what he terms “disturbed characters” – Manipulative Personality types.

    His first book “In Sheeps Clothing” is the one I was saying I’d like to gift to Dr Dodgy. (Obviously by this I’m not the only one who has felt so inclined”)

    Anyhow this is what I’ve managed to come up with:

    Dr George Simon on dealing with disturbed characters:

    “It is extremely difficult to manage character-disturbed individuals — for those who are in relationships with them and also for therapists trying to help.

    Of the hundreds of emails and letters I receive each year, by far the most frequent request I get is for assistance in finding a therapist who can really help.

    Some thought the therapist didn’t seem to ‘get it’ with respect to the disturbed character’s behavior.

    Others reported feeling livid because the therapist appeared to succumb to the character-disturbed individual’s penchant for impression management, and ended up buying into manipulations ‘hook, line, and sinker.’

    I also get many letters and emails from therapists, most of whom were trained in traditional perspectives but who have come to realize how ineffective those approaches are when dealing with a character-disturbed individual. Here’s just one example:

    “I’m a trained therapist who has practiced for over 10 years. I also consider myself a loving and caring person who is passionate about many things. I read your book and realized: “OMG I’m a real magnet for covert-aggressives. They LOVE me!” I started taking a serious look at my relationships and what it was about me that invited problem characters into my life. I really wish this book had been part of the required reading when I was in grad school. Unfortunately, it wasn’t. One of my clients actually gave it to me”

  639. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:42 am

    Kimmy :
    >Awww you guys are best but I just wanted to share my story and say that Psychology does work and is a good thing to us normal folk. (I think I just spelled Psychology every which way wrong I could) JA not normal, AT ALL! It’s been 21 years and time has healed the wounds but the scar will always be there. Thanks for the hugs guys.
    Oh and I love the photo you now have MMD as your screen saver of Juan Baby. Did you read the awesome posts on the FB comments? He truely is a HERO in AZ! That is so cool!

    I fully agree and I cleaned up your spelling (spell check is my very close friend) of psychology. I’m a firm believer that good shrinks and therapists really do work and that EVERYONE can use a good tune up as we all have our struggles in life!!!

    Really enjoying my picture of JM 🙂

  640. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:44 am

    donchais :
    HEADS UP!
    This is getting unwieldy, so I created a new entry and will close this one in a few minutes!

    Your baby is growing up in leaps and bounds donchais. You must be so proud 🙂 LOL

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