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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty-Six, Discussion Continues

03/23/2013

The comments have been flying fast and furious and folks are getting bogged down.  Please continue your comments here.

Thanks,

donchais!

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  1. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 8:35 am | #1

    Every little bit helps! Received this am.

    Thank you so much for the support. We really do appreciate it. This trial has gone so much longer then expected and I’m not sure what we would have done without all the support of such caring and thoughtful people, such as you. Thanks again for your support.

    Sincerely,
    Samantha Alexander

  2. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:48 am | #2

    Laine :
    Hi everyone! I have a couple of videos for you to watch on youtube. David Micheal has put together a part 1 & 2 called Finding Premeditaion. They had been posted on Twitter and initially I wanted to watch them because of my obsesssion with this case and looking at everything ordinary people are doing to try to insure Travis gets his Justice. However at the end of the second video David asks for help and volunteers to look for the gun….impossible…Crazy! but….sometimes miracles happen, and I believe you should always at least try the impossible! Take a look and see what you think!!
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQoF-UE6I8?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent&w=595&h=365%5D
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CskWKO3gW2E?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent&w=595&h=365%5D

    I carried this over to the new post so that everyone could see it when they wake up. Thanks Laine.

  3. 03/23/2013 at 9:01 am | #3

    Repost of my last contribution without forward noatations:

    Dr George Simon on dealing with disturbed characters:

    “It is extremely difficult to manage character-disturbed individuals — for those who are in relationships with them and also for therapists trying to help.

    Of the hundreds of emails and letters I receive each year, by far the most frequent request I get is for assistance in finding a therapist who can really help.

    Some thought the therapist didn’t seem to ‘get it’ with respect to the disturbed character’s behavior.

    Others reported feeling livid because the therapist appeared to succumb to the character-disturbed individual’s penchant for impression management, and ended up buying into manipulations ‘hook, line, and sinker.’

    I also get many letters and emails from therapists, most of whom were trained in traditional perspectives but who have come to realize how ineffective those approaches are when dealing with a character-disturbed individual. Here’s just one example:

    “I’m a trained therapist who has practiced for over 10 years. I also consider myself a loving and caring person who is passionate about many things. I read your book and realized: “OMG I’m a real magnet for covert-aggressives. They LOVE me!” I started taking a serious look at my relationships and what it was about me that invited problem characters into my life. I really wish this book had been part of the required reading when I was in grad school. Unfortunately, it wasn’t. One of my clients actually gave it to me” “

  4. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 9:05 am | #4

    Syntara :
    MMD It’s kind of sad but we had big earthquakes ( 6s were normal the two 8.1 and 8.2 were biggest, 8.1 came with a tsunami). Whole place was a blown out crater that the side blew of 1000s years ago and the ocean rushed in. so deep they never got a measurement of how deep the harbour was.

    Glad to hear it was rebuilt. I am in a province that is a small island and where I live, in particular, the island is only about a mile wide at its narrowest point. With global warming and the massive storms we have had, we are losing more and more coastline. And when the wind blows – well!! You have no idea how many people I have told in central Canada and in the U.S. that it was blowing so hard that we were blowing to England or that we were miles out into the Atlantic, and they’ve BELIEVED me!!!! I always get such a chuckle about that! :-) I have no doubt though that eventually well into the future, we will no longer even exist but I won’t be around to see it.

    I still thank my lucky stars that I didn’t build where I wanted to on the water because it doesn’t even have a sea wall and people are losing so much ppty every year! Kinda sad.

  5. 03/23/2013 at 9:07 am | #5

    MMD I can honestly empathise. I know exactly how it feels.

  6. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 9:09 am | #6

    Kimmy :
    >Awww you guys are best but I just wanted to share my story and say that Psychology does work and is a good thing to us normal folk. (I think I just spelled Psychology every which way wrong I could) JA not normal, AT ALL! It’s been 21 years and time has healed the wounds
    but the scar will always be there. Thanks for the hugs guys.
    Oh and I love the photo you now have MMD as your screen saver of Juan Baby. Did you read the awesome posts on the FB comments? He truely is a HERO in AZ! That is so cool!

    I carried my reply over from the last post since you are relatively new (to commenting anyway ) to make sure that you saw my reply.

    I fully agree and I cleaned up your spelling (spell check is my very close friend) of psychology. I’m a firm believer that good shrinks and therapists really do work and that EVERYONE can use a good tune up as we all have our struggles in life!!!

    Really enjoying my picture of JM

  7. Grace
    03/23/2013 at 9:10 am | #7

    Good Morning Everyone ~ I missed you all so much yesterday!!

    I spend Friday’s with my little grandson, and Thank God because after Thursday I needed some serious playtime. I did suffer an injury to my hand during a Pirate sword fight – lol.
    And, we watched one of our fav movies Finding Nemo.

    Hey Syntara, do you live near 42 Wallaby Way? HA!

    I’m thinking the DT does not want Dr. Wankoff to go anywhere near the PD Dx.

    Thanks Donchais for all you do and opening up another thread.

  8. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 9:18 am | #8

    Grace :
    Good Morning Everyone ~ I missed you all so much yesterday!!

    Once you get hooked you can never escape as it’s so addicting LOL :-)

    As I’ve said so many times, donchais really does provide such an excellent public service, keeping us off the streets and out of trouble when there is no court. She also saves some inanimate objects as well when I’m truly frustrated!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks again donchais. We bow at your feet!!!

  9. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 9:22 am | #9

    From the Lady in Court (she outdid herself, lol):

    From Thursday March 21

    I rush in to the courthouse and my friends have saved me a seat. No action yet, then all parties come from the back area and JM walks right up to the family and brings them back to the victim area.

    They come back and tell us all we have to take off our blue ribbons. They are pissed.

    I see the Mitigation specialist walk aback in and that smug beezy has a smirk on her face like she won someone. She exchanges this same smug look with JA.

    I later find out that two days prior JA was caught trying to sneak something to her mom via this MS so they believe this is “retaliation”. Later in the day I see the family have their ribbons still on and talk to Harold about it and he says they basically held firm and say they are not taking them off. We are told that if a button w/ Travis’ picture is seen in the courtroom the person will be ejected permanently. The torture this family has to endure…and hate to tell ya , it gets worse the the DP. I believe this ribbon will one day be appealed on that she didn’t get a fair trial because of it. I’m 100% serious here. So I gladly take mine off for that reason only but am reminded of how the MURDERER’s rights constantly trump the victims in a DP case.

    Here come the questions.

    This goober is gonna elaborate on everything–ugh.

    Fight OR flee (this is good). Can’t have it both ways unless youre an unethical Doctor getting paid $250/hr to try and exonerate a ruthless murderer.

    Tendency to flee yet she picks up a knife?

    CEO note taking here..seems like these may be his questions (fight/flight). Jurors listening intently.

    Juan will decimate these questions on cross.

    Interesting the question on hypnosis.

    He’s so FOS re: this memory not existing carp. I just do NOT believe this hypothesis. Demarte will speak differently.

    ? re: acute stress disorder and his eval date indicator..they think he’s BS too.

    Ok now he’s lecturing about meteor craters…really? He’s holding court.

    What does a crater have to do with a “get out of jail free card”?

    From my seat here I have a limited jury view–I’ll get a better seat after lunch.

    Glad someone asks a ? re: soldiers. Neil, headphones, Artists hands over mouth. Ponytail manicuring.

    He will drag this on with lectures for days at $250/hr.

    Poquito Mas head down.

    His hypnosis answer is so rehearsed. “cost effective”??? Why doesn’t he use it here? He is so affected–YUK.

    CEO increased note taking. “once the story changed she was telling what happened”.

    it’s driving me nuts he keeps calling this one her “second” story when it’s her THIRD.

    ust typing what I wrote and not sure 100% what it means but it’s there:

    “lying based on your perceptions” No, you can’t. (oh now I get it, you can’t tell if someone is lying)

    if you had a way to tell if someone was lying, your name would be Janine Driver.

    Relatively mild statements related to her negative statement about travis..he minimizes everything that doesn’t match his theorie$. Typical hired gun.

    Tri color writes a juror question after he’s so blah on “negative statements”.

    (now I bet it was her who asked she didn’t write negative things because there were none to write)

    Very little note taking now–in fact I see none at the moment.

    He keeps answering every question working in how she had PTSD.

    3-8%? Busted!

    Trauma of a bad haircut? Sarcasm! (personally I think that came from the Wrestler, just my hunch)

    That’s someone who wants to point out the idiocy of this bozo.

    HW taking notes.

    “terrible PTSD disorder” (taking meds for it?)

    I put stars all around this question:

    “How did she get so much done if her brain was shut down?” YES

    Deleting photos is not basic survival. Neither is packing and taking stuff to your car and all the other stuff she did…like laundry. No.

    “extravagant planning”

    Personality disorder not definitive–yeah because you didn’t want to put Antisocial, Borderline, Histrionic and Dependent mixed personality disorder in your notes. You’re welcome.

    Tri color increased note taking now.

    Lots of the questions point to her lying to him and him believing it.

    “actors” interesting use of that word.

    Tremors, fear (for her future) or PTSD–told him her hands were sweaty but did he see this? No. HW taking notes.

    He’s got an excuse/reason for everything prepared–too neat, too slick.

    Disorganized, frenzied crime scene (why is he talking about the scene?).

    “core personality” question, interesting.

    “Instinctual level” — packing, deleting, cleaning, laundry, driving, disposing…answer that Dr. $amuels.

    Barb looks out to gallery again. Poquito Mas stretching, rotating neck.

    I’m watching for Wrestler–I think his was haircut question.

    Ponytail has on a sparkly top, sparkly jeans and sky high stilletos today. She is doing a lot of nail inspection today.

    His hair fuzz poking out the back is distracting even from here.

    He’s saying premeditation and acute anxiety is “unlikely”. So a person who’s never commited a murder, yet premeditates it and it ends up being a seriously aggressive attack and flees in fear of discovery wouldn’t have acute anxiety. Ok.

    Police officers/soldiers fair comparison? Snap!

    CEO writes that answer.

    Would you be willilng to eval someone being dishonest with you? DUH, he did it HERE!

    Ok so now he’s saying he reviewed the test –BS , he did that after JM crossed him and revealed HIS deceit..that he tried to sell this PtSd test based on a LIE to this jury (he’s just not very smart is he?).

    Paul r. writing a question after that.

    “visiting freind…offer advice…send a book” BS JM taking notes

    Tri note taking after MMPI – work evals?

    No note taking on the back.

    Do you feel those were big errors? Good!

    Memory ?

    “I’m not aware of what others testified to …” and he went kind of on and on on this…protesting too much. I do NOT believe he hasn’t been following the trial. More on that…

    Can the acute stress occur with planned killing vs. defending one self? Possible not probable (again with this pre-fabbed preposterousness)

    A planned killing doesn’t induce stress? Are you for real?

    “you seem to have problems with omitting information” love it

    Answers “fictitious” — on one question–he’s not fooling this jury.

    He covers his mouth with his hand here–lying.

    Here comes the gift. he’s still selling this was ok and not inappropriate. Didn’t discuss it again? didn’t you just tell us that she tried to return it to you? mmhmmm

    Angry at her mother when she speaks to her. I bet she is.

    Make him happy, going along, ..all of this is according to HER.

    This jury knows how controlling she was.

    Only note taking front row is HW and Nancy here.

    Versed will erase memory and is used for that purpose for surgery. dumbdumb (was he asked if meds erase memory or something?)

    Paul R. places another question.

    “inconsistency re: anal sex” snap!

    They are paying attention to his inconsistency and wanting to have it both ways (so to speak)

    “always raises a red flag….but….” he uses a lot of “but….”

    “First story” was SECOND story.

    This is the THIRD story (please clean that up JM)

    He considered disassociative identity disorder but it didn’t fit the defense. Note how he says he was going down that road then discussed it with the defense team and abandoned it? wouldn’t he more likely confer with other PEERS to decide whether this fit and not LAWYERS?

    He is a hired gun to render an opinion that excuses this premeditated homicide.

    Question re; the book again!

    I believe very little of what he reports as fact. He’s full of stories himself.

    Flat affect like her onn the stand with a scripted story..JA’s testimony.

    YES!!! If so if JA is making a story currently , wouldn’t it be consistent? All jurors sit up for that one.

    Some note taking after “earlier defense team” (may be the first time they’ve heard she had a different team at some point).

    he is just full of “buts”.

    Not suicidal? You testifed in court she was suicidal so you sent her a book.

    JM alert, much note taking on a white pad.

    Stories told to him–emphasis STORIES.

    On to lunch break–Wrestler thumbs and pinkies out of his pockets (that just speaks to a Janine Driver observation).

    After lunch………….

    This Dr. defines the term “psychobabble”.

    Poquito Mas studying his feet,sunglasses on his head.

    No note taking in this juror segment.

    (sidebar! Hey! Just saw KatieDDJ on HLN this morning…awesome! She has her finger on the pulse of this jury/case…she’s awesome and so smart)

    Other people have their own jury nicknames which is kinda funny while we are discussing observations. Tri color is “two tone” for example. The Wrestler is the “coach”. Our CPA is “engineer”. ha!

    Nancy, CEO, note taking re: filling out forms himself.

    Lots of questions on the fictitious intruder story.

    He is too busy convincing vs. conveying. Again he protests too much.

    Close a place to run through vs. be trapped then how about her saying she went in there to grab that “gun”?

    So much excuse making for this demon. He stumbles and fumbles over his attempts to seamlessly excuse this monster.

    BOMBSHELL question on next page………….(teaser)

    MY BOMBSHELL OF THE DAY!!!

    When asked if JA was having these “physiologic reactions to stress” (the shaking like a chihuahua and hands sweating he’s talked about) PRIOR to the murder, he answers “highly unlikely”.

    Do you realize what he just did?

    He just INVALIDATED the next expert who’s entire job is to explain why she reacted with such OVER reaction is because she was a “battered woman” and she will try and sell how she’d been having this build up of trauma/anxiety/chihuaha shaking etc. up to the murder. HE JUST INVALIDATED that with that one answer. She tried to mitigate that damage but he sure did say it.

    I can’t wait for Juan to point that out i hope he caught it.

    Isn’t it possible there was nothing negative to write? (re: her journal). I hear someone say “mmmmmm” behind me. I had a small tearing up moment on that question.

    Explain dragging, clean up, etc. Surprised JM not objecting to this answer.

    YES! Confronted on the retest issue again–blames it on Juan’s style of questioning just like JA did (birds of a feather).

    His initial hypothesis was based on what the defense team asked him to support…this is so obvious to me.

    “How do you know she didn’t kill T out of jealousy?” YES Willie note taking after that one (he almost never takes notes).

    HE HAS BEEN WATCHING THIS TRIAL.

    We are supposed to believe small details say about Bianca came up in his psychological evaluation of her? NO, he’s been watching I’m sure of it.

    Followup JW–she’ll take the rest of the day I fear and he’ll hold court. Ugh.

    Please JM point out how her new story was the THIRD.

    CPA fast swiveling in his chair hand over mouth.

    Real story even worse–worse for TRAVIS.

    No note taking Poquito Mas swiveling.

    Initial hypothesis guided by what this DT asked you to find–$$$

    Nurmi although at the sidebar is almost a non entity in the courtroom now.

    Put a distance from the attack–just like Travis was trying to do getting away from this Psycho Killer.

    I see JA looking back and forth from jury to the witness (haven’t seen this before).

    Dr. Excu$e$

    He sits over there trying to eavesdrop during every sidebar. Sneaky!

    Irrational or rookie mistake?

    If she was shaking so hard from the fine motor impairment with the acute stress disorder, then how did she get, maneuver, cock and fire that gun?

    He smiles inappropriately, no note taking.

    Ponytail nail picking.

    He loves the sound of his own voice to the tune of $250/hour.

    I guess he might get defense work out of this because it’s clear he will say anything he’s paid to say no matter how preposterous it sounds.

    She changed her story to a “new story”. Emphasis STORY

    Psychological defense mechanisms = bald faced lie.

    No jurors note taking re: her change of story explanation BS.

    Jurors now fidgety, drinking water, attentive but no note taking.

    Jurors also appearing to tune him out. (that sounds contradictory but its’ what I wrote)

    Can JM get up here so I can wake up please?

    Again he giggles at his cleverness and not one juror even cracks a smile.

    He is so watching this trial. Apparently she discusses with him independently all the minute elements of this case during an evaluation but not therapy. I call BS (again).

    So sick of this self important paid $quawker.

    I wish Juan would come out of the gate with “Have you been watching this trial Sir?”.

    Oh poor Jodi with her low self esteem. Zero note taking during this excuse making BS on her low SE.

    Here we go with the book AGAIN! CEO started taking notes here, also HW.

    Shut up Wilmott! Please shut up!!

    Another juror question comes up from the back.

    I’m tuning him out.

    How is it possible he knows all of these key elements of the case, etc. during TESTING. (am I beating this dead horse or what? I keep writing about this!).

    Repressed memories–no note taking, wrestler yawning.

    So basically JA is one of 3-5 out of 100,000 with this kind of amnesia. Ok.

    Nancy tapping her foot.

    Hashing and rehashing her entire direct.

    “Very strong probability dissociative amnesia” is worked in to a sentence in almost every question (he’s been coached to do this imo).

    Really, he’s going in to the geography crater lecture again???

    Wrestler speaks up from the jury box loudly about the hearing apparatus going off for the hearing impaired juror (Janine was write about this guy having a leadership role…I didn’t see it til today). There was a whistle in the courtroom.

    On afternoon break. The VA talks to us about being more careful about our body language, passing the journal to each other, notes etc. She says the defense is complaining now and noticing EVERYTHING. This family is on lockdown there every minute in court. How stressful. In case you hadn’t noticed I’m an expressive person and having to sit there observing this stuff stone faced is exhausting (and I’m not very good at it to be honest). Another reason to admire this family.

    I see the Mit. Spec. in her 6 inch heels. She was close talking with JA mom.

    AFter break I walk in right behind Dr. $amuels..he seems older when he’s up and walking only because he walks with kind of a limp. I’m resisting feeling sympathetic to him because right now he disgusts me doing this for money ( I was raised by a Psychologist so this hits deep).

    After break I moved over by Jake to get a better view of the jury. I see the front row perfectly now and also the witness and can also see JA.

    No one note taking re: the question about acute stress and premeditation vs. self defense. This topic btw was KatieDDJ bombshell of the day.

    He’s proficient in hypnosis but never tried it here?

    Basically he’s saying it’s worthless.

    Juror question in the box.

    Grandpa swiveling and looking to the gallery.

    Now I have a perfect view. HW looks out to the gallery. LONG sidebar.

    Met Camille Kimball , crime writer, wrote the book on Jake’s brother’s case. She leaned over and gave her condolences to me, was very familiar with our case. Was a reporter back then.

    Just can’t write anymore notes on this buffoon, I write. My hand hurts.

    Then I start writing again.

    When he says traumas were “enough alike” re: his PSD test CEO not looking at him, has a look of *whatever*. This is just disrespectful to the jury imo.

    THANK GOD! Juan! Gonna wake up now.

    When JM gets up, tri color and Paul r. look at each other and share a smile. Jurors sit up straighter now.

    JM zipping around the (what is that area called? AZ Lawyer? Area where the desks are up to the witness?).

    Misplaced worksheet…this guy is at best sloppy and at worst shady.

    “no more problems than you do” this to me is like “I know you are but what am I?”

    CEO cracks a smile when JM goes all gangster WEBSTER on this dude.

    definition of compassion.

    Nurmi snatches that Webster page like “gimme that!” off JM desk and heads to “approach”.

    CEO , Nancy, Tri color all note taking on this bias stuff.

    JM once again is like watching a thoroughbred.

    Nancy, Tri taking notes. Ponytail manicuring.

    Interesting JM leaves his main man Webster up on the screen on def of compassion for a long time even after this is passed.

    Buying the book cured his feeling of compassion for JA then he didn’t feel compassion after that. Ok…does that even make sense?

    He keeps misplacing items, leaving them at home, etc. Either this is sneaky and hoping to hide something or this man has the audacity to come to court so sloppy and unprepared it’s really kind of shocking. esp after getting busted nearly every day he’s on the stand.

    On that topic, I hope LaViolette does the same thing.

    Looks like 2 juror questions in the box.

    CEO looks for a long time at someone on the public side..never seen that before. Something or someone is getting his attention.

    Wrestler big stretch over his head, arms, water bottle in hand.

    JA glares straight back at….??? It was a GLARE

    Next Thurs 9:30 to 12:30 (perfect for me as I head out of town that afternoon).

    Mon. 10am.

    Re the sweet juror with the head phones in response to Judge’s question if he missed anything “no Your Honor , I heard it all”.

    That was kind of a sweet note to end the day on.

  10. 03/23/2013 at 9:28 am | #10

    Comments Re Vid #1

    xcellent point I had not consciously considered. – If it was Travis’ gun why throw it away? – It’s one of the biggies that would throw some real doubt into the mix. The reason She has never bothered to try to help out with pinpointing the location she got rid of it is, of course, because it’s the gun from her grandparent house.

  11. 03/23/2013 at 9:29 am | #11

    Greetings and good morning,
    Does anyone have any thoughts about why JA purchased the 9mm gun? I don’t believe it was purchased to take on a camping trip.

  12. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 9:37 am | #12

    Donchais can u repost the link for donations to the family? Is it that FB site started by Travis’ friend? Thanks!

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 9:39 am | #13

      Lisa M with pleasure!

      From the Lady in Court:

      The first thing I want to post is to transcribe exactly what Samantha wrote in my journal about donations:

      Paypal address: justice4travisalexander@gmail.com

      Direct mail: Samantha Alexander
      PO Box 130023
      Carlsbad, CA 92013

      Make checks out to : Samantha Alexander

  13. 03/23/2013 at 9:42 am | #14

    Whoever put that vid together is way better than me, I would have like to do something like that but wouldnt have had a clue on the first place to start. Now need everyone that can to get out and searche for the damn thing cos I suspect JM doesnt have it or he’d have to have told the prosecutor.

    What if JA has told Matt or someone she trusts to go get it already though. It may well not be ther dammit!!!

    havent quite finished yet maybe there’s a twist Im yet to get to.

  14. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 9:43 am | #15

    Laine: Thanks so much for the U-tube link on premeditation. Loved them.

    I was just listening to the call the defendant made to Travis a few hours after she killed him. She mentions that she and a friend were going to a play and asked if perhaps he wanted to join them. The play was “Othello”- probably the greatest depiction of a jealous rage in the western canon. Not only that, but it introduces the phrase “green-eyed monster” to describe jealousy. It also talks of “reputation” and the defendant mentioned concern for her “reputation” when talking with Det. Flores and implied in the court papers for a settlement that she would “spare” the Alaxander family a hit to Travis’ reputation if they let her plead to 2nd degree.
    From the play, Iago on “reputation”:

    …”he that filches from me my good name robs me of that which not enriches him, and makes me poor indeed”

  15. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 9:44 am | #16

    Lisa, my own personal opinion about why she purchased the gun is that she thought in her illogical mind that if she purchased a gun after the murder it would make her seem innocent of using the previous gun or at least confuse the issue. However the other possibility is she was planning to flee and needed protection. She also had knives in her car too. She claims she was going to kill herself with the gun but wanted to do it sonewhere other than her parents’ or grandparents’ house– yeah right!– but what would she need the knives for then? She also claims she needed protection for a camping trip with some guys, which I believe she never ended up going on. Not sure what the prosecution theory is, possibly that she planned to flee.

    • 03/23/2013 at 9:58 am | #17

      Thanks Lisa for sharing your thoughts. I forgot about the knives in her vehicle. Her arrest could not have been more timely considering what may have transpired; what she may have been planning.

  16. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 9:50 am | #18

    Robert that’s so interesting about the play being Othello. If she actually went to the play what you’re saying about her stealing the reputation idea would make sense. God knows she doesn’t have any original thoughts. She made up the ninja story after Flores asked her if other people were there. Her wheels started turning. She gloms onto whatever she hears and goes from there.

  17. 03/23/2013 at 9:55 am | #19

    Hi Grace nice to see you :)

  18. 03/23/2013 at 9:57 am | #20

    Robert that thought crossed my mimd right then listening to that vid and the recording of it. My god everything she does is so calculated she is so so evil!

  19. 03/23/2013 at 10:02 am | #21

    ooooooo and Robert – what is the one and only thing that bothers a psychopath? Being uncovered for what they are. He was going to out her. Not only was he going to rid himself of her, he had something on her that would show everyone who and what she really was!

    What was it anyone have any ideas?

  20. 03/23/2013 at 10:03 am | #22

    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?

  21. 03/23/2013 at 10:11 am | #23

    Oh maybe he was going to confess to everything and show her for what she was cos he had had enough! She couldn’t stand it. Oh that so fits.

    He told that sweet girl something to the effect of “Im not worthy of my church.” Friends said he was going to make some big changes re self revelation and cleansing.. not sure of exact words paraphrasing from memory. Was rumoured he had talked to his bishop.

    She would have no hold over him then and would be on the outer and totally exposed for who she really is.

    Oh my!

  22. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 10:11 am | #24

    Lisa your question about the gun got me thinking about the knives she supposedly had in her car. Does anyone know what kind of knives they were?

  23. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 10:12 am | #25

    Syntara :

    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?

    Several, but they are missing!

    • 03/23/2013 at 10:26 am | #26

      The forged letters it is thought, contained excerpts from his journals. It is speculated that JA stole his journals and gave them to Matt McCarty(?), who then created the forged letters.

  24. 03/23/2013 at 10:15 am | #27

    Knives guns – she was going to become a serial killer – lord knows who the next target was Mimi?

    Doubt it but heck who knows who was her biggest threat in that twisted mind of hers.

    She had her signature (throat slash) and her weapons of choice – hallmarks of a serial killer.

  25. 03/23/2013 at 10:18 am | #28

    donchais :

    Syntara :
    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?

    Several, but they are missing!

    Well there ya go! They need finding too.. perhaps burnt in the desert? Nah I can see her keeping those in a secret hiding place. Were they her trophies …nah the photos were I think. But then she’d decided to destroy those….

    hmmmm have to ponder this one.

  26. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 10:20 am | #29

    Donchais – please thank your friend. Who is Jake’s brother? Was he the jeweller Jay Orbin who was killed by his wife Marjorie in Florida or a victim of snipers Dale Hausner and Sam Dieteman? Thanks.

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 10:34 am | #30

      MMD Orbin is correct, I believe.

  27. 03/23/2013 at 10:24 am | #31

    Hunting knives I believe Lisa M

    Lisa M :
    Lisa your question about the gun got me thinking about the knives she supposedly had in her car. Does anyone know what kind of knives they were?

  28. 03/23/2013 at 10:31 am | #32

    Lisa… hmmmmm yep didnt think she’d have burnt them. So what did he do with them? Why is he so loyal to her? Was he in on it for some twisted reason? After all he was the first one she tried to call and why cover her butt with these letters and paedophilia story if he had nothing to do with it. What does she have on him? Is he just totally enamored with her he’d cover even this heinous slaughter for her? Surely nobody is that besotted?

    • 03/23/2013 at 10:47 am | #33

      Great points Syntara! There definitely was a close connection between the two of them. He was the individual to receive the magazines with the messages written,in pencil, near the spine of each magazine. Apparently, as the story unfolded, JM told MM that if he testified, he would bring him up on charges of purgery. It is very curious why he would involve himself in this hedious act committed by JA.

  29. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 10:38 am | #34

    Although I appreciate David Michael and others wanting to find the gun to help Travis’s case, I think it is impossible or it would have been found by now since it has been five years since she disposed of it. If she said she threw it in the desert, it’s not there because she doesn’t want it found. She is illogical so she could have disposed of it anywhere.

    I’m sure the jury will conclude that Jodi staged the burglary and stole the gun from her grandparent’s home so she could use it to murder Travis because the prosecutor will prove she had means, motive and opportunity.

    Facts and evidence that prove Jodi stole the gun for the purpose of killing Travis Alexander:

    1- Her grandparents left their house at 11 am, Jodi was there until 1 p.m. and the burglary was discovered at 3 pm, no other guns were stolen except the .25 caliber handgun that fit in her purse and Travis Alexander was shot with a .25 caliber handgun a week later.
    2- Jodi told Flores twice once on the phone and once in a police station interview room that Travis didn’t own a gun when she had no intention of admitting she shot Travis so it didn’t benefit her at that time to lie about the gun. All of Travis’s friends said he didn’t own a gun.
    3- No ammunition, holster or box was found in his house. Nobody would buy a gun and just enough bullets to load it.
    4- Travis shot rifles and shotguns with his buddies but always borrowed the guns from his friends. If he bought a gun it would be a rifle or shotgun or a higher caliber handgun if he wanted to protect himself.
    5- It makes no sense that Travis would hide a loaded cocked gun with the safety off in a corner on a top shelf of his closet and tell Jodi it was unloaded. He would warn her it was loaded and not to mess with it and he would put it where he could easily access it if he needed to defend himself.
    6- Jodi’s story about the gun makes no sense, it changed during the 18 days she was on the stand and it benefits her to lie and say he owned a gun now that she has admitted to killing him to rule out premeditation.

  30. cyn clarke
    03/23/2013 at 10:40 am | #35

    I wish to hell I lived in the area. this is fantastic investigating. are there any points here that would help the prosecution with it;s case? perhaps getting this info to them to look at. I am willing to support in any other ways that I can.
    God bless Travis and his family and thanks to Donchais for continued updates.

  31. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 10:47 am | #36

    The only reason a murderer buys a gun is that they intend to kill someone. Jodi bought the 9 mm gun and the two new knives found in her new rental car when she was arrested July 15, 2008 because she was going on the run and intended to kill anyone who got in her way. The police had her under surveillance and arrested her at her grandparents home before she had a chance to get away. That may be brought up in the rebuttal case. It proves she travels with a gun and knives.

  32. 03/23/2013 at 10:49 am | #37

    From awesome Lady In Court

    MY BOMBSHELL OF THE DAY!!!
    When asked if JA was having these “physiologic reactions to stress” (the shaking like a chihuahua and hands sweating he’s talked about) PRIOR to the murder, he answers “highly unlikely”.
    Do you realize what he just did?
    He just INVALIDATED the next expert who’s entire job is to explain why she reacted with such OVER reaction is because she was a “battered woman” and she will try and sell how she’d been having this build up of trauma/anxiety/chihuaha shaking etc. up to the murder. HE JUST INVALIDATED that with that one answer. She tried to mitigate that damage but he sure did say it.

    mwmwmwhahahahahahahaha omg thats toooo funny!!!

  33. 03/23/2013 at 10:55 am | #38

    Yea theres enough circumstantial obviously, but to actually find the gun would floor her. It’d be a knockout punch… err a switch flicker :D I’d go looking for sure.

  34. 03/23/2013 at 10:57 am | #39

    Reason… it would stop subsequent appeals. Get that flick switched way quicker. (I cant believe Im saying this Im so anti DP.) She’s my exception I swear I’d do it myself.

  35. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 11:02 am | #40

    Syntara Why is he Mat Mcartney) so loyal to her? Was he in on it for some twisted reason? What does she have on him? Is he just totally enamored with her he’d cover even this heinous slaughter for her? Surely nobody is that besotted?

    Jodi manipulates men with sex and her innocent little girl act. Bobby, Daryl, Matt and Travis all remained friends with her even after the breakups. Matt had nothing to do with the murder or she would have blamed it on him instead of Travis. Matt was her close friend and saw her as a sister. He believed her lies about Travis and didn’t want her to be put to death so he lied for her.

  36. 03/23/2013 at 11:14 am | #41

    Lady In Court Notes:

    Confronted on the retest issue again–blames it on Juan’s style of questioning just like JA did (birds of a feather).

    Yes but he blamed on the VERACITY of the question

    *whips out definition a la Juan Baby’s court performance.*

    So what is the definition of veracity?

    Well let’s see
    1. habitual observance of truth in speech or statement; truthfulness: He was not noted for his veracity.

    2. conformity to truth or fact; accuracy: to question the veracity of his account.

    3. correctness or accuracy, as of the senses or of a scientific instrument.

    4. something veracious; a truth.

    Riiiiiight so…….

    Q. Why was he thrown by the truth and accuracy of Juan’s Question

    A. because he rarely comes into contact with the concept of truth or accuracy.

    Juan Juan Juan baby….. why oh why did you object you should have allowed it for your chance to royally screw him at the jury question!

  37. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 11:16 am | #42

    cyn clarke :I wish to hell I lived in the area. this is fantastic investigating. are there any points here that would help the prosecution with it;s case? perhaps getting this info to them to look at. I am willing to support in any other ways that I can.

    I live in Mesa where Travis was murdered and I wouldn’t dream of interfering in a police investigation that was closed years ago and turned over to the prosecutors. I can assure you that the Mesa Police department has competent, capable, experienced investigators who have investigated this case thoroughly. They left no stones unturned. Juan Martinez has prosecuted over 300 cases in 25 years. He knows what he is doing. He doesn’t need our help.

  38. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 11:16 am | #43

    With all the smarter than I people on this site, I am curious too on Matt M. Wasn’t he Travis’ good friend at one time? (At least I thought so) if he was, why on earth would a “friend of his” turn against him? Lie for her? I did not know he tried to admit forged documents early on. I guess I didn’t go that far back… Wonder what kind of “stuff” JA has on him? Thanks for all the links carried over MMD! You are so thoughtful!! I see that Travis’ sister posted thanks for donations. I do have facebook, but don’t know enough about how I can get to be a friend on “Justice for Travis”. Can someone clue me in, or is it pretty much blocked? Not too savy as you can tell. Just have Facebook for family mostly.. And trying not to post much as I don’t want to bog down the site. Just lurking, and clicking on some links I missed for previous postings.. so many posts to read.Missed some of them, but I totally understand donchais. Wish I were able financially to help the family out. All I can give is my support though. :( well, chat later peepes! And let me know what I have asked about Matt M. thanks

  39. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 11:21 am | #44

    Janeto :With all the smarter than I people on this site, I am curious too on Matt M. Wasn’t he Travis’ good friend at one time? (At least I thought so) if he was, why on earth would a “friend of his” turn against him? Lie for her?

    Matt was a friend of Daryl, the boyfriend Jodi was living with when she met Travis and dumped Daryl. As far as I know, Matt never met Travis.

  40. 03/23/2013 at 11:24 am | #45

    Observer yes I understand her manipulating nature. This is a step beyond that. Normally the cognitive dissonance gives up by the stage of throat slitting. ie the internal justification for the loyalty.

    In order to cover for someone you have to believe what you are covering is a lesser evil than your benefit.

    In other words the benefit you receive out weighs the nature of what is being covered.

    What I am saying is why is his devotion to her SO extreme that the benefit he is receiving is greater than the crime committed.

    Surely he has seen those autopsy pic or maybe refuses to look at them his denial is so great?

    What hold has she got over him for his loyalty to be SO extreme. Exactly what is their history.

  41. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 11:28 am | #46

    Observer :

    cyn clarke :I wish to hell I lived in the area. this is fantastic investigating. are there any points here that would help the prosecution with it;s case? perhaps getting this info to them to look at. I am willing to support in any other ways that I can.

    I live in Mesa where Travis was murdered and I wouldn’t dream of interfering in a police investigation that was closed years ago and turned over to the prosecutors. I can assure you that the Mesa Police department has competent, capable, experienced investigators who have investigated this case thoroughly. They left no stones unturned. Juan Martinez has prosecuted over 300 cases in 25 years. He knows what he is doing. He doesn’t need our help.

    I agree of not interfering in the investigation also in looking for the gun. I honestly don’t believe she threw it in the desert! I believe the Hoover Dam might have it! But I don’t know that area, and don’t know if the checkpoint is before or after it, so my guess is probably moot! . But I wish someone knew what happened with the gun a knife (besides JA) and you KNOW she knows!! She knows exactly what happened, every detail!!! No memory fog she can come up with will get me to believe differently!

  42. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 11:28 am | #47

    Syntara, every time a murderer is arrested close friends or family can’t believe they did it. Some even offer an alibi. We don’t know what we would do to save a friend or family member we love.

  43. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 11:30 am | #48

    Observer :

    Janeto :With all the smarter than I people on this site, I am curious too on Matt M. Wasn’t he Travis’ good friend at one time? (At least I thought so) if he was, why on earth would a “friend of his” turn against him? Lie for her?

    Matt was a friend of Daryl, the boyfriend Jodi was living with when she met Travis and dumped Daryl. As far as I know, Matt never met Travis.

    Thnx Observer! I had missed that with so many “boyfriends” she talks about… geesh, can’t keep up with them, much less the lies! LOL!!

    • 03/23/2013 at 11:47 am | #49

      MM started dating someone by the name of Bianca. JA drove approx. 1 1/2 hrs to confront her about her relationship with MM. I don’t know a whole lot about the specifics regarding their “discussion”.

  44. 03/23/2013 at 11:31 am | #50

    Observer so in a nut shell you are saying Matt refuses to believe she is guilty. He is completely under her spell and the nature of her crime doesn’t register to him

    If he ever woke up to her she would be his worst enemy. Someone needs to crack him -Detective Flores… send your best team out there with every terrifying pic and fact you can and get through to him. Then we might get an avalanche of answers.

  45. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 11:32 am | #51

    <
    What hold has she got over him for his loyalty to be SO extreme. Exactly what is their history.

    I totally see what you mean Syn! I would sure like to know…

  46. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 11:41 am | #52

    Syntara, you made me LOL reading the dumb doc saying “veracity” instead of “tenacity”; now I have to search to catch it myself. A riot! Talk about Freudian slips!

  47. 03/23/2013 at 11:43 am | #53

    Janeto – it would be interesting to find out the exact nature of that relationship. Why would he have been the first one she tried to call after the murder. Simply because she’s the one she feels is most gullible to her charms and least likely to betray her I guess.

    I noticed so many times in court she kept saying “he hasn’t betrayed me yet” ” I think he is loyal to me ” he has something that would be her undoing, something that can give us more answers. It’s obvious because she is constantly reeling him in to guilt him into staying loyal That was clear in her testimony.

    I’ve seen this behaviour before so I noticed that immediately it stuck out like a beacon. She was talking directly to him. It was a personal message to him pleading with him not to betray her.

  48. 03/23/2013 at 11:45 am | #54

    Robert oh maybe he said tenacity… I heard it as veracity… I better go check myself!!! haha

  49. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 11:47 am | #55

    Jodi Arias prosecutor an unexpected leading man

    Prosecutor Juan Martinez has gained thousands of mostly women fans throughout the course of the Jodi Arias trial

    Video:

    http://www.azcentral.com/video/2245658164001

    This is adorable!

    • 03/23/2013 at 12:06 pm | #56

      Thanks Nancy for posting this. Extra positive reinforcement for JM which is so deserved!

  50. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 11:53 am | #57

    Observer :
    Syntara, every time a murderer is arrested close friends or family can’t believe they did it. Some even offer an alibi. We don’t know what we would do to save a friend or family member we love.

    Yes it has been known offers of alibis, but I honestly can say, I don’t believe I would not offer one. I couldn’t live with myself. I have 8 siblings, and one that has been in the police force, (32yrs) who is a retired Detective. Now working for the DA office. (many relatives) I have seen my share of crime seen photos, heard more stories about cases than I would want to know.The anguish families have been through is something I could NOT live with in helping one of my siblings cover up a crime. One of my cousins, years ago, was in jail for a rape he did commit.. He ended up committing suicide in his cell over his guilt. I would not have given an alibi for him either. But to each his own. That’s my take on it.

  51. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 11:53 am | #58

    MMD: Thanks for the Judge Judy – (I love her!)
    That ol’ Gus sure loves the camera. No wonder he likes
    Jodi sooooo much.

  52. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 11:54 am | #59

    Thx Observer for insight on Mesa and Juanderfull’s career. I think one of his obvious appeals is that he does his work. Many of us are used to the lazy, 9-5 attitude of many government workers or workers on some sort of “protected” environment. Personally, I’m so sick of the protected, lazy worker I shouldn’t go on, but Mr. Juanderful is a public servant who takes his job seriously and does it well and doesn’t need a posse of sycophant assistant DA’s sitting at his table. For that alone, I am grateful. Previous to this trial, Barry Goldwater Taliesin,and the Grand Canyon were myfavorite Arizona things. Now, I have added Senor Juanderfull.

  53. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 11:55 am | #60

    I’m beginning to think there really was No police report in Yreka cause they thought the
    break-in was so phony – haha. (I do recall seeing pics of the scene where Jodi took things to stage the event, but can’t seem to find them).

  54. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 11:56 am | #61

    Syntara :Observer so in a nut shell you are saying Matt refuses to believe she is guilty. He is completely under her spell and the nature of her crime doesn’t register to him
    If he ever woke up to her she would be his worst enemy. Someone needs to crack him -Detective Flores… send your best team out there with every terrifying pic and fact you can and get through to him. Then we might get an avalanche of answers.

    Matt is not a problem. He’s not lying for her anymore. The judge has ruled that the pedophile letters cannot be brought up. The defense won’t call Matt because he has told the prosecutor and defense attorneys in deposition that he knew nothing about her bruises and that’s why she tried to smuggle out the message to Matt: “You fucked up. What you told my attorney directly contradicts what I have been saying for over a year. See me ASAP. We can fix this.”

  55. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 11:57 am | #62

    syntara: it’s a riot whatever he said==whether its tenacity or veracity.

  56. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 11:58 am | #63

    This came this morning so the petition is important to the family see below:

    Samantha Alexander
    7:55 AM (34 minutes ago)

    Thank you so much for the support. We really do appreciate it. This trial has gone so much longer then expected and I’m not sure what we would have done without all the support of such caring and thoughtful people, such as you. A supporter started a petition to create a new law reference unsubstantiated claims against murder victims and want’s to name it “Travis Alexander’s law” If you have a chance click on the link below and fill out the form. It took me about 30 seconds to do and it’s for a good cause. If you don’t want to, that’s ok too. Thanks again for your support.

    Sincerely,
    Samantha Alexander

    Here’s the link…
    https://www.change.org/petitions/cre…murder-victims

  57. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 12:00 pm | #64

    Syntara :
    Janeto – it would be interesting to find out the exact nature of that relationship. Why would he have been the first one she tried to call after the murder. Simply because she’s the one she feels is most gullible to her charms and least likely to betray her I guess.
    I noticed so many times in court she kept saying “he hasn’t betrayed me yet” ” I think he is loyal to me ” he has something that would be her undoing, something that can give us more answers. It’s obvious because she is constantly reeling him in to guilt him into staying loyal That was clear in her testimony.
    I’ve seen this behaviour before so I noticed that immediately it stuck out like a beacon. She was talking directly to him. It was a personal message to him pleading with him not to betray her.

    Yeah, I did noticed that too, but you never know! She was sooo confident in saying that too! Her arrogant self! LOL! Oh, another symptom? Arrogance?? Oy vey! comes along with the territory I guess. :)

  58. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 12:01 pm | #65

    It wouldn’t do any good to find the gun. Her grandfather didn’t know the serial numbers. And he’s not going to identify it and put his granddaughter on death row.

  59. Anna
    03/23/2013 at 12:01 pm | #66

    Isn’t incredible how modern tech is allowing us to show support for the Alexander family all across the globe! And isn’t it nice to know there are so many caring people out there!
    Steven Alexander posted the following on his facebook page (I found it here:https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis):

    “Thank you all for your support. The blue ribbon movement is beautiful. I know Travis only hoped to change one life. He never would of thought he could change the world. People across the globe have been influenced by him. Travis believed every single one of us was created to be successful. We all have different lives and trials. We just have to get there. Travis has a legacy. It’s up to us to make sure it survives. You were born to be great, it is your destiny. Thank you all for everything. Your support, your prayers, your words and your love. Justice for Travis.”

    What a fantastic way of looking at this tragedy. From bad often times comes good. Thanks again, donchais, for keeping this site going and, for injecting such fine humor so that we don’t all go insane (or at least not completely – all my sharp objects have been locked away and I’m sporting a brand new heavy-duty tin foil cowboy hat).

    Cheers everyone! See ya round the bend. :)

  60. 03/23/2013 at 12:03 pm | #67

    Observer yes I know he cant be called as a witness and good.. but I still believe he has something she doesn’t want outed or why would she give him those personal messages. the weren’t pointed at anyone but him they stuck out the proverbial dogs testicles. Im thinking maybe the diaries.. maybe the gun.. dunno.. something big that she at least thinks could hurt her.

    Maybe shes just covering her bases or maybe there is really something…
    whatever way she thinks he could say more that might damage her story. That’s all I know.

  61. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 12:04 pm | #68

    You know, I was remembering, I have that book “Your Erroneous Zones” by Dr. Wayne W. Dyer… I read it years ago!!!! Haven’t read it in a VERY long time, but If anyone hasn’t got it, and you want to ask questions, I’ll try and find what you are looking for……

  62. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 12:06 pm | #69

    Observer :I agree with your take on Matt. No way will he testify, he’ll be shredded and afterwards charged and he knows it. The message the little kiler was trying to get to him was I think, a plea not to turn State witness and discuss the forgeries and use of Travis notebooks, perhaps what he knows.

  63. Jo
    03/23/2013 at 12:07 pm | #70

    Observer….do you remember the Rabbi Neulander case in NJ back in the 90′s. His son believed he was innocent during the first trial and his father took the stand. After his father testified, he realized his father was indeed guilty of hiring two men to kill his mother. So, yes, people can believe in the innocence of their family/friend and at some point, they can indeed change their mind. I remember when the son spoke with Courttv Vinnie Politan telling him just that and also because the way Vinnie broke down the evidence and time-line. But that was a case where the defendant did not admit to the crime. In this case JA has, but her reasons are what is keeping her family and friends still believing in her defense. Reasonable people like the great posters here just shake our head and say how can anyone believe her defense. If it does not make sense, then there is no good reason to believe. I hope the jurors are reasonable people. I thought after the OJ case, jurors would pay closer attention. Then came the CA case. My husband keeps reminding me. BTW, I have kept your: he did not kill her when she slashed his tires, etc. but he went into a rage over a dropped camera…….. That is such incredibly logical thinking. I think it is something JM should use in his closing. Simple and rational. Thanks.

  64. 03/23/2013 at 12:08 pm | #71

    Robert in Rotterdam :
    Observer :I agree with your take on Matt. No way will he testify, he’ll be shredded and afterwards charged and he knows it. The message the little kiler was trying to get to him was I think, a plea not to turn State witness and discuss the forgeries and use of Travis notebooks, perhaps what he knows.

    yeah yeah something like that!

  65. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 12:10 pm | #72

    Janeto: I left some excerpts from the book on the site yesterday. I listed a few images and lines from the book which, certainly if taken out of context, would be an appalling thing to hear in the courtroom from this a-hole “expert.”

  66. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 12:13 pm | #73

    MMD :
    Kimmy :
    >Awww you guys are best but I just wanted to share my story and say that Psychology does work and is a good thing to us normal folk. (I think I just spelled Psychology every which way wrong I could) JA not normal, AT ALL! It’s been 21 years and time has healed the wounds
    but the scar will always be there. Thanks for the hugs guys.
    Oh and I love the photo you now have MMD as your screen saver of Juan Baby. Did you read the awesome posts on the FB comments? He truely is a HERO in AZ! That is so cool!
    I carried my reply over from the last post since you are relatively new (to commenting anyway ) to make sure that you saw my reply.
    I fully agree and I cleaned up your spelling (spell check is my very close friend) of psychology. I’m a firm believer that good shrinks and therapists really do work and that EVERYONE can use a good tune up as we all have our struggles in life!!!
    Really enjoying my picture of JM

    Thank you MMD for the spell check! I have a new computer with Windows 8 (missing Windows XP) and I have no idea where the spell check is and it’s driving me wonky wonk! Apologies to all for any typos :)

  67. 03/23/2013 at 12:13 pm | #74

    Im still trying to find veracity or tenacity Robert you found it yet?

  68. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 12:13 pm | #75

    Robert in Rotterdam :
    Janeto: I left some excerpts from the book on the site yesterday. I listed a few images and lines from the book which, certainly if taken out of context, would be an appalling thing to hear in the courtroom from this a-hole “expert.”

    Great! I didn’t get to catch up on every comment yesterday. Way too many! LOL!!! but I agree with you!!!!!! Appalling!!!

  69. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:14 pm | #76

    Lisa :
    Greetings and good morning,
    Does anyone have any thoughts about why JA purchased the 9mm gun? I don’t believe it
    was purchased to take on a camping trip.

    Add to that question, why is she renting another car? She is spending money right and left
    which is odd considering she doesn’t (didn’t ) have any???

  70. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 12:17 pm | #77

    Marilyn N :

    Lisa :
    Greetings and good morning,
    Does anyone have any thoughts about why JA purchased the 9mm gun? I don’t believe it
    was purchased to take on a camping trip.

    Add to that question, why is she renting another car? She is spending money right and left
    which is odd considering she doesn’t (didn’t ) have any???

    Right!!! My point too! For someone who is “broke”, sure can afford all this traveling and expenses! Makes me wish I were “BROKE!!!” LOL!!! (just kidding)

  71. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 12:18 pm | #78

    Robert in Rotterdam Personally, I’m so sick of the protected, lazy worker I shouldn’t go on, but Mr. Juanderful is a public servant who takes his job seriously and does it well and doesn’t need a posse of sycophant assistant DA’s sitting at his table. For that alone, I am grateful. Previous to this trial, Barry Goldwater Taliesin,and the Grand Canyon were myfavorite Arizona things. Now, I have added Senor Juanderfull.

    I am grateful to Juan Martinez too because he makes our state proud. Hopefully, he has taken the spotlight away from the murderer and Arizona will be remembered as the state where Prosecutor Juan Martinez put another woman on death row and not the state where Jodi Arias murdered her ex boyfriend. I admire the hard work and dedication of Dr. Horn, the medical examiner, and Detective Flores also. I have faith good will triumph over evil.

  72. 03/23/2013 at 12:19 pm | #79

    She rented the car so it wouldn’t be recognised by anyone who knew her own car. IE when it was parked outside Travis’ house.

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 12:21 pm | #80

      Syntara Believe they are talking about the car she rented to flee Yreka.

  73. Janeto
    03/23/2013 at 12:21 pm | #81

    I am grateful to Juan Martinez too because he makes our state proud. Hopefully, he has taken the spotlight away from the murderer and Arizona will be remembered as the state where Prosecutor Juan Martinez put another woman on death row and not the state where Jodi Arias murdered her ex boyfriend. I admire the hard work and dedication of Dr. Horn, the medical examiner, and Detective Flores also. I have faith good will triumph over evil.

    Agree wholeheartedly Observer!!!!!

  74. 03/23/2013 at 12:22 pm | #82

    Janeto:

    Further to the fact she didn’t have a lot of money only attests to her desperation to get to him before the Cancun trip. ie it shows a large part of her motive was to stop him going on the cancun trip if it wasn’t with her.

  75. 03/23/2013 at 12:23 pm | #83

    ohhh sorry thought the car for her trip. Apologies

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 12:32 pm | #84

      @syn- actually for BOTH rental cars, so u were half right!! :)

  76. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:27 pm | #85

    Janeto :

    Observer :

    Janeto :With all the smarter than I people on this site, I am curious too on Matt M. Wasn’t he Travis’ good friend at one time? (At least I thought so) if he was, why on earth would a “friend of his” turn against him? Lie for her?

    Matt was a friend of Daryl, the boyfriend Jodi was living with when she met Travis and dumped Daryl. As far as I know, Matt never met Travis.

    Thnx Observer! I had missed that with so many “boyfriends” she talks about… geesh, can’t keep up with them, much less the lies! LOL!!

    I might be confused here, but wasn’t Matt another one of Jodi’s ex-boyfriends that cheated on her and she drove up to Oregon to confront the other woman??

  77. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 12:29 pm | #86

    From todays NY Daily News I couldn’t resist. Maybe Dr Fog will slip this one in on Monday…and SYNTARA_ have not found it since I resisted having to sit through him to find it but now I ll try.

    A Serbian woman who sees the world upside down has neurology experts at MIT and Harvard scratching their heads.
    Bojana Danilovic, 28, has a rare condition called “spatial orientation phenomenon” where a jumbled connection in her brain flips what she perceives, reported Central European News.
    “They say my eyes see the images the right way up but my brain changes them,” explained Danilovic.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/woman-sees-upside-article-1.1297128#ixzz2ONg6WJKw

  78. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:30 pm | #87

    donchais :
    Syntara Believe they are talking about the car she rented to flee Yreka.

    Yes, the second car after the murder.

  79. 03/23/2013 at 12:31 pm | #88

    Robert think Im getting close so leave it with me if you like until I confirm its not tenacity. I could well be wrong I was typing the Q and A into the forum as it was happening so I could easily have misheard.

  80. Jo
    03/23/2013 at 12:31 pm | #89

    Donchais…..Christian-Newsom case. There is supposed to be pre-trial motions on Monday. Will you have an update? Thanks.

  81. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:31 pm | #90

    When she was making all those bank deposits, wasn’t that money she had just
    borrowed from Matt & possibly Darrell?

  82. 03/23/2013 at 12:33 pm | #91

    No worries Marilyn.. I didn’t realise there was a second rental car. Apologies again. But probably same reason.. so she was off to do it again.. rented car, gun and knives.

    hmmm more interesting.

  83. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:33 pm | #92

    I heard that in a previous trial, JM cremated LaViolette on cross.
    Wish we could come up with a video of that!! Anybody????

  84. 03/23/2013 at 12:34 pm | #93

    Maybe thats why they arrested her. things that make you go hmmmm alright.

  85. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:35 pm | #94

    ONce again, I am sitting here in my pj’s with you guys!
    Must go get dressed now!!

  86. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 12:35 pm | #95

    Observer & Janeto: I live half of the year in Los Angeles, so we are sometimes neighbors of sorts! Yes–also wanted to say I loved Detective Flores and his no nonsense (and skillfull) way as well as the ME, Dr Horn. I loved ja telling us what the crime scene sequence! Said he was wrong! Hope he comes back, he’s done over 6000 autopsies!!! And he also doesn’t waste words and exudes integrity and no nonsense and skill, You guys should be proud!

  87. 03/23/2013 at 12:40 pm | #96

    yep have to say Dr Horn and Flores were very impressive. Flores taking it for the team on the gunshot first issue was good too, oh how that stuffed their little plan up no wonder they tried so hard to go after him on it.

    Those interview tapes are really really good and so helpful to the case how he just lets her run with the BS to trap herself.

  88. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 12:41 pm | #97

    When I was getting my hair cut yesterday I met a lady who has worked for 20 yrs in the county jail system as a RN. She was telling me that the people on death row in CA are allowed to have tv’s in their cells and allowed internet access to pen pal sites etc which totally shocked me.That just seems patently wrong wrong wrong. I’m hoping it’s just a CA thing and not that way across the country. She said that she no longer hopes for criminal’s well deserving of the death penalty to be sentenced to it. She said they lead cushy lives with lots of extra privileges that no other prisoners are allowed.

  89. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 12:42 pm | #98

    Jo :

    Donchais…..Christian-Newsom case. There is supposed to be pre-trial motions on Monday. Will you have an update? Thanks.

    Yup! Begins at 9 and hopefully will be done before this case resumes. BTW, the defense doesn’t want the ME to be able to testify, lol. Can you imagine?

  90. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 12:44 pm | #99

    Jo :Observer….do you remember the Rabbi Neulander case in NJ back in the 90′s. His son believed he was innocent during the first trial and his father took the stand. After his father testified, he realized his father was indeed guilty of hiring two men to kill his mother. So, yes, people can believe in the innocence of their family/friend and at some point, they can indeed change their mind. My husband keeps reminding me. Travis did not kill her when she slashed his tires, etc. but he went into a rage over a dropped camera…….. That is such incredibly logical thinking. I think it is something JM should use in his closing. Simple and rational. Thanks.

    No, I don’t remember the Neulander case but it makes sense that family and friends can eventually believe their loved one is guilty. I read where Jodi’s mother and father told Flores they thought she had something to do with the murder of Travis but they believe her Travis The Sexual Deviant Made me Do it Defense.

    I posted on blogs exactly what your husband said about Travis not killing her over slashing his tires so why would he kill her over a dropped camera. The judge has ruled that Juan Martinez can’t bring up the slashing of tires because it would be too prejudicial and may cause a reversal of a guilty verdict. But he could say Travis didn’t threaten to kill her when she ruined the engine in his Mercedes (which cost $9,000 to replace) so why would he kill her over a $300 camera? Mimi Hall testified that Travis’s stalker slashed his tires and Lisa’s but she didn’t know her name. The 911 caller named Jodi as the stalker who slashed his tires.

  91. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 12:46 pm | #100

    donchais :

    Jo :
    Donchais…..Christian-Newsom case. There is supposed to be pre-trial motions on
    Monday. Will you have an update? Thanks.

    Yup! Begins at 9 and hopefully will be done before this case resumes. BTW, the defense doesn’t want the ME to be able to testify, lol. Can you imagine?

    Donchais – do you have a live stream link for this that you could share?

  92. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 12:48 pm | #101

    MMD – Were you following the story of Shirley Turner who murdered Andrew Bagby
    and then fled to Newfoundland back in 2001-ish? Thought maybe that might be near your territory.
    Sad sad story. There is a book and documentary about it called Dear Zachary.

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/why-was-an-accused-killer-free-to-kill-again-the-dear-zachary-story/index.html

  93. Jo
    03/23/2013 at 12:53 pm | #102

    Donchais BTW, the defense doesn’t want the ME to be able to testify, lol. Can you imagine?

    WHAT? I have never heard of such a thing. Is there a reason? Of course there is. It proves the depravity/lack of conscience of the defendants. There is absolutely no end to the shenanigans of the defense teams that have been involved in this horrendous case.

  94. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 12:55 pm | #103

    NancyB :

    donchais :

    Jo :
    Donchais…..Christian-Newsom case. There is supposed to be pre-trial motions on
    Monday. Will you have an update? Thanks.

    Yup! Begins at 9 and hopefully will be done before this case resumes. BTW, the defense doesn’t want the ME to be able to testify, lol. Can you imagine?

    Donchais – do you have a live stream link for this that you could share?

    WBIR does live stream.

  95. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 12:57 pm | #104

    Jo :

    Donchais BTW, the defense doesn’t want the ME to be able to testify, lol. Can you imagine?

    WHAT? I have never heard of such a thing. Is there a reason? Of course there is. It proves the depravity/lack of conscience of the defendants. There is absolutely no end to the shenanigans of the defense teams that have been involved in this horrendous case.

    By my bud, Jamie Satterfield
    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/mar/15/george-thomas-defenders-want-to-keep-medical-off/

  96. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 1:04 pm | #105

    NancyB :
    Jodi Arias prosecutor an unexpected leading man
    Prosecutor Juan Martinez has gained thousands of mostly women fans throughout the course of the Jodi Arias trial
    Video:
    http://www.azcentral.com/video/2245658164001
    This is adorable!

    Oh that is so awesome! He seems so down to earth outside the courtroom just like a normal guy. I hope the Arias fanily is seeing this and any other supporters of that crazy b%%^tch!

  97. 03/23/2013 at 1:05 pm | #106

    He DID say “veracity.” I thought, wow, Juan really rattled him. I thought maybe he meant vitriolic.

  98. Jo
    03/23/2013 at 1:10 pm | #107

    Donchais….thanks. Read it. Will be interesting to see which way this goes.

  99. 03/23/2013 at 1:13 pm | #108

    Wish Juan had been there instead of Marcia Clark and Chris Darden

  100. 03/23/2013 at 1:14 pm | #109

    Deborah he did…. yay! Ive just gone through it all and missed it again soooo glad you posted that in there!!

    Robert you’ll have to find it now to hear…. if you haven’t already!

  101. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 1:15 pm | #110

    Jo :

    Donchais….thanks. Read it. Will be interesting to see which way this goes.

    I trust Kurtz!

  102. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 1:18 pm | #111

    Robert in Rotterdam :Observer & Janeto: I live half of the year in Los Angeles, so we are sometimes neighbors of sorts! Yes–also wanted to say I loved Detective Flores and his no nonsense (and skillfull) way as well as the ME, Dr Horn. I loved ja telling us what the crime scene sequence! Said he was wrong! Hope he comes back, he’s done over 6000 autopsies!!! And he also doesn’t waste words and exudes integrity and no nonsense and skill, You guys should be proud!

    Hi neighbor. I lived in LA before moving to Mesa and visit friends in LA often.

    I love how Jodi Arias thinks all she has to say is the medical examiner is “wrong” and “there was no blood” in the picture of the bullet casing lying on top of a pool of blood and the jury is going to believe a pathological lying killer over a medical examiner and their own eyes.

    I laughed that Jodi made up her ridiculous story about grabbing Travis’s unloaded gun and it going off because Flores told her he believed the gunshot came first. She testified she made up her lies to fit the “forensics.” She meant she made up the lies to fit what Flores told her. Twice Nurmi tried to get a mistrial saying Flores lied on purpose when he said the gunshot came first.

  103. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 1:22 pm | #112

    NancyB :
    Jodi Arias prosecutor an unexpected leading man
    This is adorable!

    And he’s all mine ladies and gents! :-)

    Thanks for the link Nancy. I guess this is why I always watch the live stream on their channel, cause of the local connection. I don’t want to work for him or anything mundane like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe just help him relax a bit. ;-)

  104. Nancy Pennington
    03/23/2013 at 1:23 pm | #113

    Matt M was best friends with JA’s boyfriend Bobby Juarez. She dumped Bobby to start screwing MM. Then MM met Daryl when he got a job like JA at Ventana resort. Don’t think he ever met Travis. I personally don’t believe JA’s bs about them being like brother & sister. I’m sure it is still a sexual thang!!!

  105. 03/23/2013 at 1:29 pm | #114

    Finally got to see that Juan Vid omg is that ever so uplifting him and he is so humble.. When the lady asks him to sign her cane he genuinely shows surprise with his “oh my god”.

    Oh I’m so happy he is getting this attention it must help him so much in this arduous case. I loved that vid thanks so much for posting it. Oh I love this site!! Thanks so much Donchais for all of this.

  106. 03/23/2013 at 1:31 pm | #115

    MMD, you’re delusional.

  107. 03/23/2013 at 1:35 pm | #116

    I just sat through his re-cross or whatever its called on the jurors questions looking for the veracity comment. (which I still managed to miss!)

    It wasn’t any better for Dodgerydoo but Juan baby was even more awesome the second time. :D

  108. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 1:37 pm | #117

    Twice Nurmi tried to get a mistrial saying Flores lied on purpose when he said the gunshot came first.

    Urggggg! That makes me so !@#$%%^^&& mad!!

  109. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 1:41 pm | #118

    Syntara :
    Finally got to see that Juan Vid omg is that ever so uplifting him and he is so humble.. When the lady asks him to sign her cane he genuinely shows surprise with his “oh my god”.
    Oh I’m so happy he is getting this attention it must help him so much in this arduous case. I loved that vid thanks so much for posting it. Oh I love this site!! Thanks so much Donchais for all of this.

    Where’s the video? Can you re-post it pleeeeeze?
    I wonder if anyone is requesting signatures and photos with Wurmi? tee her!

  110. 03/23/2013 at 1:41 pm | #119

    Yes cos their whole Version 455635578 is based on him being shot first

    Marilyn N :
    Twice Nurmi tried to get a mistrial saying Flores lied on purpose when he said the gunshot came first.
    Urggggg! That makes me so !@#$%%^^&& mad!!

    mmwhwhshaahahahhaha idiots did they not see the bullet casing? OMG such a lazy arse defense council!

  111. 03/23/2013 at 1:43 pm | #120

    scroll back to #105 Marilyn it’s in Kimmy’s quote of it.

  112. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 1:44 pm | #121

    Observer :

    Robert in Rotterdam Personally, I’m so sick of the protected, lazy worker I shouldn’t go on, but Mr. Juanderful is a public servant who takes his job seriously and does it well and doesn’t need a posse of sycophant assistant DA’s sitting at his table. For that alone, I am grateful. Previous to this trial, Barry Goldwater Taliesin,and the Grand Canyon were my favorite Arizona things. Now, I have added Senor Juanderfull.

    I am grateful to Juan Martinez too because he makes our state proud. Hopefully, he has taken the spotlight away from the murderer and Arizona will be remembered as the state where Prosecutor Juan Martinez put another woman on death row and not the state where Jodi Arias murdered her ex boyfriend. I admire the hard work and dedication of Dr. Horn, the medical examiner, and Detective Flores also. I have faith good will triumph over evil.

    Here Here!!! I agree with both of you. Not only is he a public servant who takes his job seriously with a fierce work ethic, takes the focus off the murderer, but also makes sure that the victim is always front and center and never forgotten.

    Besides that, he consistently does this with every case he tries!!! Kudos to him and to the State of AZ for hiring and keeping him! :-) Wake up people and take a lesson in his work ethic, tenacity and laser focus! As he said, defense attorneys hate him and they have good reason. He is absolutely fearless and doesn’t do deals!!!!

  113. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 1:45 pm | #122

    Syntara :
    Comments Re Vid #1
    xcellent point I had not consciously considered. – If it was Travis’ gun why throw it away? – It’s one of the biggies that would throw some real doubt into the mix. The reason She has never bothered to try to help out with pinpointing the location she got rid of it is, of course, because it’s the gun from her grandparent house.

    Good point!

  114. cyn clarke
    03/23/2013 at 1:46 pm | #123

    I wasn’t intending to take anything away from the Arizona Judiciary by my comment above. I would like to be in Arizona to search for the gun. Why would anyone get rid of something if it could help there case.
    Juan is my hero too and I have no doubt that this case will end with ‘her’ being found quilty of 1st degree murder. I remember a case from late 90′s, Falater, I beleive? He claimed sleep walking as a defense wheh he killed his wife. He got life thanks to Juan Martinez.

  115. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 1:46 pm | #124

    Sounds like you ladies have lots of competition for your man, JM!
    I’m surprised Jodi hasn’t let one of her fake boobies “accidentally” slip out
    for JM to view!!

  116. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 1:47 pm | #125

    Marilyn N :
    I might be confused here, but wasn’t Matt another one of Jodi’s ex-boyfriends that cheated on her and she drove up to Oregon to confront the other woman??

    Yup but now they are like brother/sister and there is no attraction whatsoever, according to JA!

  117. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 1:48 pm | #126

    Syntara :
    scroll back to #105 Marilyn it’s in Kimmy’s quote of it.

    It’s not playing for me – it’s all blank.
    Does it take a minute to come up?
    Thanks!

  118. 03/23/2013 at 1:50 pm | #127

    Marilyn N :
    Sounds like you ladies have lots of competition for your man, JM!
    I’m surprised Jodi hasn’t let one of her fake boobies “accidentally” slip out
    for JM to view!!

    wicked Marilyn, wicked you are LOL!!

  119. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 1:53 pm | #128

    I re-listened to Day 24 testimony last night (a good one to review).
    That is when she is claiming the Starbucks parking lot license plate incident.
    Is she saying she drove all the way across Arizona with an upside down plate?
    Still a bit befuddled about the license plate issues.

  120. 03/23/2013 at 1:53 pm | #129

    hmmm not for me.

    try again? http://www.azcentral.com/video/2245658164001

    as for Wormy havin a fan club….. whoever suggested that needs Dr Dodgy therapy I tell ya!!

  121. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 1:55 pm | #130

    I mean, Jodi probably in the back of her foggy sick mind, truly thinks she
    can sway JM to her side!!

  122. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 1:55 pm | #131

    Marilyn N :
    ONce again, I am sitting here in my pj’s with you guys!
    Must go get dressed now!!

    I haven’t gotten out of my flannel nightie since the damn trial started except to go to the dr yesterday!!! Well that’s not exactly true, I have showered and changed it but ya know what I mean. I’m sure that my neigbours are convinced that I only own one single red plain L.L. Bean flannel nightie.

    Oh well, let them think I’m the crazy lady in the house with the dogs that they never see – I don’t care. Give them something to talk about during our cold winter months. I have more important priorities ;-)

  123. 03/23/2013 at 1:56 pm | #132

    MMD :

    Marilyn N :
    I might be confused here, but wasn’t Matt another one of Jodi’s ex-boyfriends that cheated on her and she drove up to Oregon to confront the other woman??

    Yup but now they are like brother/sister and there is no attraction whatsoever, according to JA!

    yeah see the whole thing is just strange. WTH is the real story on those two?

  124. 03/23/2013 at 1:57 pm | #133

    dammit moderation comment soooo sorry Donchais :(

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 2:01 pm | #134

      Syntara Shite happens, lol! Think it has something to do with nesting comments…working with support to try and figure it out.

  125. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 2:01 pm | #135

    Syn-still won’t play but thanks anyway. Hope the JA Innocent site hasn’t done a bit of damage to my computer!

  126. 03/23/2013 at 2:01 pm | #136

    where’s Chrissie today I need my pic fix she always posts freaking hilarious stuff!

  127. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:02 pm | #137

    bubblebutts :
    Wish Juan had been there instead of Marcia Clark and Chris Darden

    I don’t think it would have made a damn bit of difference with that jury. It was a different time and I think the jury went in with their minds already made up. With the racial divide that existed in LA at that time and the hero status OJ carried, you weren’t gonna convince one black juror OJ was guilty! To this day there is still a massive divide as to hi guilt or innocence. Throw in Lance Ito and it was a hell of a mess.

    Today now, I think OJ would be convicted in a sec!

  128. 03/23/2013 at 2:03 pm | #138

    kk Ill try to keep that in mind Ill try to remember manual referencing on multiples. Thnx Donchais.

  129. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:04 pm | #139

    Syntara :
    MMD, you’re delusional.

    Maybe, but it’s my delusion and I’ll enjoy it. You’re just jealous! LOL ;-)

  130. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 2:05 pm | #140

    Marilyn N :

    Syn-still won’t play but thanks anyway. Hope the JA Innocent site hasn’t done a bit of damage to my computer!

    Depends when ya hit it…seems a lot of traffic slows the load, but should work eventually!

  131. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:06 pm | #141

    Syn – besides Ms Lady of Oz, aren’t you the one talking about the blow up doll of JM sitting in your lap?????? ROFL

  132. 03/23/2013 at 2:07 pm | #142

    I can’t believe that Dr Strangelove is on his 3 or 4 day of testimony and he needs to take documents home to review. Rabbit hole is beckoning!

  133. 03/23/2013 at 2:08 pm | #143

    MMD :
    Syn – besides Ms Lady of Oz, aren’t you the one talking about the blow up doll of JM sitting in your lap?????? ROFL

    Facts are irrelevant in this matter

  134. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 2:13 pm | #144

    This theory says OJ’s son did the murder and OJ was protecting him…..hah!

    http://straightfromthea.com/2012/04/03/investigator-o-j-simpson-did-not-murder-nicole-his-son-jason-did-it/

  135. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 2:14 pm | #145

    Thanks Deborah…Syntara the veracity confirmed! So funny.

  136. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:15 pm | #146

    Marilyn N :
    Sounds like you ladies have lots of competition for your man, JM!
    I’m surprised Jodi hasn’t let one of her fake boobies “accidentally” slip out
    for JM to view!!

    Somehow I don’t think that would work with JM! He’s one of the few men that truly has her number and she can’t manipulate, although she did her damn best on the stand to try!

  137. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 2:15 pm | #147

    SYN – Thanks – I’ll keep trying.

  138. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:16 pm | #148

    Syntara :

    MMD :
    Syn – besides Ms Lady of Oz, aren’t you the one talking about the blow up doll of JM sitting in your lap?????? ROFL

    Facts are irrelevant in this matter

    I rest my case darlin’!!! ;-)

  139. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:19 pm | #149

    Syntara :
    where’s Chrissie today I need my pic fix she always posts freaking hilarious stuff!

    I think Chrissie was up on here most of the night and couldn’t sleep. Or, she could actually have a life! It does seem quiet without her though, doesn’t it! It seems hard to believe that it was a week ago that we were on the live chat on HLN – no idea where the days are going!!!!!!!!!!!

  140. 03/23/2013 at 2:24 pm | #150

    LOL watching JA going through the bin hand stands and singing in the interview room. The saying to herself “You should have at least done your make-up Jodi gosh”

    yep yep woulda been better to stick to version 3 and go with the exorcist escape clause of possession I reckon.

  141. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:27 pm | #151

    Marilyn N :
    This theory says OJ’s son did the murder and OJ was protecting him…..hah!

    Yeah right. I didn’t even click on the link but from what I remember Jason (I think that was his name) was a chef and I remember Dominick Dunne writing one of his dispatches from the trial and talking about being at a dinner party. Apparently Dominick was being very disparaging of OJ and the next morning doing into court Jason asked him if he enjoyed his dinner. He didn’t realize until that elevator ride that Jason had been catering the meal. Said he was very polite and a well mannered guy!

    Gosh I miss Dominick Dunne. He always had the inside juicy scoop on things!

  142. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 2:27 pm | #152

    MMD :

    NancyB :
    Jodi Arias prosecutor an unexpected leading man
    This is adorable!

    And he’s all mine ladies and gents!
    Thanks for the link Nancy. I guess this is why I always watch the live stream on their channel, cause of the local connection. I don’t want to work for him or anything mundane like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe just help him relax a bit.

    MMD – He’s yours! We all know this! I’m glad you are all comfy and devoting your time here where we all need you!! One of the things about that adorable video that is very telling about what kind of man Juan is — after long trying days in court where he’s been up and working hours before court finally begins for the day and regardless of the fact that he’ll be working many hrs after court ends for the day, he is “not too busy” to speak with his fans and with smiles he gladly takes pics with them at their requests! And, it’s the farthest thing from being an ego boosting thing. He’s just a genuinely very nice man!

  143. LadyInRed
    03/23/2013 at 2:28 pm | #153

    @MMR, copy/paste from Yesterday’s thread! Anna’s video was priceless!! I actually saw another photo of a tin foil hat worn by a local legislator and am trying to paste here for everyone’s enjoyment. (PS I think ours with the antennae are much better!!)

    LadyInRed :
    May LIR impose for a collective “amen”?? Finally Friday, and got squished (mamo) and scanned (bone density) today; survived both without glowing in the dark, and donated a beaded prom dress to a worthy cause tonight locally for those less fortunate!

    Congrats for surviving – those foil hats really are useful for so may things (see Anna’s post #593 above) and thank you for your donation,
    As for it finally being Friday, it’s seemed like Thursday is Friday ever since this damn trial started with the odd court week!!!

  144. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 2:29 pm | #154

    I’m in moderation and don’t know why? Sorry for the extra trouble Donchais!

  145. 03/23/2013 at 2:29 pm | #155

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    Thanks Deborah…Syntara the veracity confirmed! So funny.

    As you said Robert this guy freudian slips all over the place. Good sign he isn’t incompetent or negligent… he’s lying! What do you think? anything to draw from on that?

  146. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:32 pm | #156

    Syntara :
    as for Wormy havin a fan club….. whoever suggested that needs Dr Dodgy therapy I tell ya!!

    OMG so true! Can you imagine waking up next to him or seeing him naked!!!! Oh damn, I think I just caused myself permanent brain damage with that thought!!!!!:-(

  147. LadyInRed
    03/23/2013 at 2:33 pm | #157

    Here’s the legislator tinfoilhat! Hah! Ours is better!
    http://www.knoxviews.com/files/user1/h34t.jpg

  148. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 2:39 pm | #158

    Observer on 03/23/2013 at 10:47 am:
    “The only reason a murderer buys a gun is that they intend to kill someone. Jodi bought the 9 mm gun and the two new knives found in her new rental car when she was arrested July 15, 2008 because she was going on the run and intended to kill anyone who got in her way. The police had her under surveillance and arrested her at her grandparents home before she had a chance to get away. That may be brought up in the rebuttal case. It proves she travels with a gun and knives.”
    You’re probably right Observer. It is extremely probative to show that she travels with a gun and knives. Who does that??? How has she explained the knives, or has she? Doesn’t she dispute having had them?

  149. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 2:39 pm | #159

    What we already know, but good to hear from a “real” professional:
    Listen to Dr Jack Here on Blog Radio…9.28 minutes

  150. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:39 pm | #160

    I agree LIR – ours is soooooo much better and our antennas are trade marked!!! LOL

  151. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 2:41 pm | #161
  152. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 2:42 pm | #162

    Correction: I meant you’re prob right, Observer, about her “plan” or at least her preparedness to kill anyone who got in her way.

  153. 03/23/2013 at 2:43 pm | #163

    Syntara :
    as for Wormy havin a fan club….. whoever suggested that needs Dr Dodgy therapy I tell ya!!

    MMD
    OMG so true! Can you imagine waking up next to him or seeing him naked!!!! Oh damn, I think I just caused myself permanent brain damage with that thought!!!!!:-(

    Now that would give you PTSD and you would hope fog!

  154. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 2:45 pm | #164

    Gosh I miss Dominick Dunne. He always had the inside juicy scoop on things!

    Oh I LOVE and MISS Dominick Dunne so much!!
    He left us way too soon.

  155. Ci Ci’s Circle
    03/23/2013 at 2:47 pm | #165

    MMD :

    Laine :
    Hi everyone! I have a couple of videos for you to watch on youtube. David Micheal has put together a part 1 & 2 called Finding Premeditaion. They had been posted on Twitter and initially I wanted to watch them because of my obsesssion with this case and looking at everything ordinary people are doing to try to insure Travis gets his Justice. However at the end of the second video David asks for help and volunteers to look for the gun….impossible…Crazy! but….sometimes miracles happen, and I believe you should always at least try the impossible! Take a look and see what you think!!

    I carried this over to the new post so that everyone could see it when they wake up. Thanks Laine.

    Great video find! Sure puts a lot into perspective. You can easily see JM’s understanding of how she was using the gas cans. We’re not math wizards and while watching the gas can part of the trial we had to get out calculators in order to follow along. We’re sure that the jury will have a well laid out outline by the time JM is done. Thanks for sharing! Boy…..you all have some real talent searching the internet and finding all of this stuff!!

  156. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:47 pm | #166

    NancyB :
    One of the things about that adorable video that is very telling about what kind of man Juan is — after long trying days in court where he’s been up and working hours before court finally begins for the day and regardless of the fact that he’ll be working many hrs after court ends for the day, he is “not too busy” to speak with his fans and with smiles he gladly takes pics with them at their requests! And, it’s the farthest thing from being an ego boosting thing. He’s just a genuinely very nice man!

    That’s what really comes through – a genuinely very nice man. I would bet money he doesn’t have much of a personal life because he dedicates so much time to his job!!! If we all adore him, just imagine what the victims’ families must think of him as he takes such good care of them. Really hard to find that combo very often!!!! Very unassuming man, unless you’re up against him in a court of law then watch out!!!

  157. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 2:49 pm | #167

    Marilyn N :
    Gosh I miss Dominick Dunne. He always had the inside juicy scoop on things!
    Oh I LOVE and MISS Dominick Dunne so much!!
    He left us way too soon.

    He was a class act and never shy to voice his opinions, that’s for sure!

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 2:56 pm | #168

      For a true perspective, just before his death, he completed a documentary called After The Party (on dvd)…his life was in the toilet, but after his daughter’s murder, he became a true victim’s advocate and the man we all came to know and love!

  158. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 2:51 pm | #169

    cyn clarke :I wasn’t intending to take anything away from the Arizona Judiciary by my comment above. I would like to be in Arizona to search for the gun.

    Cyn, my point was if Martinez thought he couldn’t get a conviction without the gun, he wouldn’t take it to court and if the gun could have been found, the police and a search team would have found it in the last five years. It would do no good for citizens to search for a gun. Only police and trained searchers should search for evidence in a crime because evidence can be compromised and not admissible in court. Jodi drove 750 miles from Mesa to Salt Lake so she could have ditched it anywhere. Many motorists drove that route in five years so any criminal could have ditched a gun. Jodi would have wiped her fingerprints off the gun or the rain would have washed them off in five years. Jodi’s grandfather didn’t know the serial numbers so he couldn’t identify it. Even if it was proven to be the gun that shot Travis, the prosecution couldn’t prove it was Jodi’s grandfather’s stolen gun without serial numbers. In fact, he would probably testify that it wasn’t his gun.

  159. Ci Ci’s Circle
    03/23/2013 at 3:00 pm | #170

    Marilyn N :
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jon-hansen/2013/03/21/psychologically-speaking-wdr-jack-jodi-arias-dr-sells-out
    Not sure the one above came thru- hope this one works.

    Wow…..good link! Listening to the Doctor refer to Elmer Fudd as a “hired gun” hit that nail on the head! That defense team has no morals…..just like their client!! Thanks for sharing!

  160. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 3:01 pm | #171

    Marilyn N :
    Not sure the one above came thru- hope this one works.

    Yep it came through and I love his comment about bibliotherapy!!! Maybe someone should tell that to Dr. Quack!!! He’s pretty much hitting all the comments and feelings that we have covered here.

  161. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 3:07 pm | #172

    donchais :
    For a true perspective, just before his death, he completed a documentary called After The Party (on dvd)…his life was in the toilet, but after his daughter’s murder, he became a true victim’s advocate and the man we all came to know and love!

    I have that dvd donchais! He was a drunk and broke. He locked himself in a cabin in the middle of nowhere and cleaned up his act.

    Sad to say, his daughter’s murderer is walking the streets today although he did save one girl from marrying him! He also became so close to the Goldman family that he was invited to Kim Goldman’s wedding!

    Plus, Martha Moxley’s murder would never have been solved if it hadn’t been for he and Mark Furman!

  162. 03/23/2013 at 3:08 pm | #173

    I’m looking at naked pic of Travis from that day and I’d pretty much swear he looks like he is asleep. His eyes aren’t open and his ‘pose’ is like he is sleeping. One arm lazily up on his pillow and a bottle of what look like some kind of lotion beside him. If it’s the infamous ky that’s not how it’s packaged here.

    Is this the only naked shot of him or are there more? I swear he is asleep in the one I’m looking at. I’ve not looked at these before.

    If so she took the pics while he was sleeping I’m almost sure of it. So hers would have been auto timed for her poses cos if he was asleep how could he have taken them? Anyone got any of these with times on them? Were hers before or after this one?

    Of course if there’s more of him naked and obviously awake well he may have woken up and said “wt are you doing” I just need to find anymore to have a look.

  163. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 3:12 pm | #174

    donchais :
    For a true perspective, just before his death, he completed a documentary called After
    The Party (on dvd)…his life was in the toilet, but after his daughter’s murder, he became a true victim’s advocate and the man we all came to know and love!


    Here’s a clip from Dominick’s documentary.
    My blood is boiling recalling the judge in his daughter’s murder trial.
    Thanks, Donchais, for mentioning this film!

  164. 03/23/2013 at 3:13 pm | #175

    Chrissie I need you where are you sweetpea!!!

  165. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 3:13 pm | #176

    Nice to see JM smile in the video about how he has become a lady magnate. He has so much to deal with, it’s nice to see another side to him. He’s so adorable!

  166. Ci Ci’s Circle
    03/23/2013 at 3:21 pm | #177

    Kimmy :

    NancyB :
    Jodi Arias prosecutor an unexpected leading man
    Prosecutor Juan Martinez has gained thousands of mostly women fans throughout the course of the Jodi Arias trial
    Video:
    http://www.azcentral.com/video/2245658164001
    This is adorable!

    Oh that is so awesome! He seems so down to earth outside the courtroom just like a normal guy. I hope the Arias fanily is seeing this and any other supporters of that crazy b%%^tch!

    A very humble man who comes from humble beginnings. His upbringing will not allow him to be anything less than a decent human being! Go Juan….you’re Mr. Man!!

  167. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 3:25 pm | #178

    Marilyn N :
    My blood is boiling recalling the judge in his daughter’s murder trial.
    Thanks, Donchais, for mentioning this film!

    Ah that was nice to see him again. Yes, Judge Katz really spoke out of turn. I remember Dominick got up and yelled at him after he spoke and was escorted out of the courtroom. Apparently Katz was performing for his parents who had come to watch their son, “the judge”!

    I have everything he ever wrote. Just loved his perspective and he made no bones about the fact that he was only interested in the trials of the rich and famous, which also made him endearing.

  168. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 3:27 pm | #179

    Is anyone else afraid that if Jodi is convicted of first degree she’s going to have a decent chance at getting a new trial based on an inadequate defense? I mean, couldn’t Samuels’ mistakes provide her with some appealable issues? I assume the bar is fairly high as it is for all appeals but I’m just wondering what other people think. BTW it was probably smart of Jodi not to continue representing herself because she’d wouldn’t be able to appeal on inadequate counsel. I’ve never heard of anyone winning an appeal on those grounds but I’ve heard if people filing them.

  169. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 3:28 pm | #180

    Heard OF people filing them. (Damn iPhone!)

  170. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 3:29 pm | #181

    MMD I loved Dominick Dunne too! Vanity Fair will never be the same w/o him!

  171. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 3:31 pm | #182

    Observer :

    Robert in Rotterdam :Observer & Janeto: I live half of the year in Los Angeles, so we are sometimes neighbors of sorts!

    Hi neighbor. I lived in LA before moving to Mesa and visit friends in LA often.

    Hi guys, I live in San Diego – we are all super hyper about wild fires – (CA/AZ/CO) Did she say she burned her clothes in the desert or just threw them away? If it were the latter it would have certainly attracted attention. Not sure where I heard the burning theory – I could be completely wrong on this.

  172. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 3:34 pm | #183

    Syntara :
    Chrissie I need you where are you sweetpea!!!

    Hi Honey!!! Sorry, I’ve been busy with this (in more ways than one) – don’t mean to be ANAL about it – lol

    http://www.dropshots.com/JooJooRed#albums/Fun%20Pics/2013-03-23/01:03:38

  173. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 3:34 pm | #184

    Syntara :
    Is this the only naked shot of him or are there more? I swear he is asleep in the one I’m looking at. I’ve not looked at these before.
    If so she took the pics while he was sleeping I’m almost sure of it. So hers would have been auto timed for her poses cos if he was asleep how could he have taken them? Anyone got any of these with times on them? Were hers before or after this one?
    Of course if there’s more of him naked and obviously awake well he may have woken up and said “wt are you doing” I just need to find anymore to have a look.

    Check out this link – it show’s TA awake and there are time stamps. BE VERY CAREFUL – THESE PHOTOS CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!! Consider yourself warned!! These are courtesy of Chris Stark

    http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/arizonavjodiarias/library/Camera%20Photos?page=1

  174. 03/23/2013 at 3:37 pm | #185

    RE: Incompetent defense motion

    I asked that question the the other day and it was answered with a no and a good explanation for it. Cn’t remember who responded to it but it was a good answer.

    Mind you that was before all the mistakes that should have been picked up by the Defense team have come out so that position mat have changed so possibly needs an update.

  175. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 3:39 pm | #186

    Syntara :
    Chrissie I need you where are you sweetpea!!!

    I’m in moderation sweetie – I’ve been flat out like a lizard drinking

  176. 03/23/2013 at 3:41 pm | #187

    Re Vid posted by CiCiCircle

    yep pretty much as I said at juror question time

    Q do any others in your field have differing opinions.’

    A Yes I’m the only one that agrees with me.

  177. 03/23/2013 at 3:42 pm | #188

    yay you are around. Excellent! Take your time :)

  178. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 3:42 pm | #189

    Chrissie A :
    I’m in moderation sweetie – I’ve been flat out like a lizard drinking

    Good for you. Did you finally get to sleep?

  179. 03/23/2013 at 3:43 pm | #190

    flat out like a lizard drinking? have you been hanging with my fellow countrymen?

  180. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 3:43 pm | #191

    Just watched the David Michael “Finding Premeditation” videos.
    Very good, and it is so obvious it was premeditation!!
    I just don’t know what I’ll do if this jury doesn’t come thru for us!!!!!

  181. 03/23/2013 at 3:45 pm | #192

    Thanks so much MMD I’ll go in forewarned. *Dons foil hat*

  182. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 3:45 pm | #193

    MMD :

    Syntara :
    I – THESE PHOTOS CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!! Consider yourself warned!! These are courtesy of Chris Stark

    Hi MMD! Truer words have never been spoken – I will not be exposed to that nasty thing again. (And I don’t mean our lovely Travis)

  183. 03/23/2013 at 3:45 pm | #194

    Marilyn N :
    Just watched the David Michael “Finding Premeditation” videos.
    Very good, and it is so obvious it was premeditation!!
    I just don’t know what I’ll do if this jury doesn’t come thru for us!!!!!

    I know what I’ll do.

  184. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 3:47 pm | #195

    MMD :

    Chrissie A :
    I’m in moderation sweetie – I’ve been flat out like a lizard drinking

    Good for you. Did you finally get to sleep?

    Around 6:30 am – still a bit fuzzy, I hope you are feeling better :-)

  185. 03/23/2013 at 3:48 pm | #196

    Hey that’s my doll!!!!! Chrissie you bloody genius!!!

  186. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 3:48 pm | #197

    blockquote cite=”#commentbody-9807″>
    Lisa M :Is anyone else afraid that if Jodi is convicted of first degree she’s going to have a decent chance at getting a new trial based on an inadequate defense? I mean, couldn’t Samuels’ mistakes provide her with some appealable issues?
    No. Dr. Samuels works for the state defenders office as a defense expert and defense experts testify to fit the defense theory. The only way defense counsels can be considered ineffective is if they did nothing, didn’t question any witnesses, didn’t make any objections and didn’t call any experts. Nurmi and Wilmont are vigorously defending Jodi by making motions for mistrial, questioning witnesses, making objections, calling experts and other witnesses. In fact, Judge Stevens is doing everything she can to make sure there will be no reversal in a guilty verdict. Stevens wouldn’t let Nurmi leave the case in 2011 when he left the public defender’s office to go in private practice because he had been on the case since 2009. Stevens said changing lawyers at that point might interfere with Jodi getting a fair trial. She even agreed to pay him $250 an hour so he wouldn’t lose money.

  187. 03/23/2013 at 3:49 pm | #198

    oops am I allowed to say that. soz if I offended anyone.

  188. 03/23/2013 at 3:50 pm | #199

    Hi guys! Katiecoolady here (you guys call me Lady in Court). I see you’re copying my posts from WS over here from my court observations (no worries)…you have a lively group going on here and if you ever feel inclined to pop in there too w/ comments, feel free. Some know I’m on a campaign to get funds for the family right now. I’ve been in contact with the legal team who have expressed how impt it is to have them front and center in court (and as a surviviing sister of a homicide victim who’s been thru two DP trials I know this myself). The family is struggling right now. If you even have $10 to paypal them it all adds up and they really are in dire need to keep coming to court. I don’t normally ask but in this case I am. I’ve taken a leave from my job and am going to court to support them most days and sharing my observations for free. I’m just asking people to consider making a donation to the Alexander family. justice4travisalexander@gmail.com goes to Samantha who doles out the $. I asked her personally on Thurs so I know this is correct. Btw, I also watched that crazy Neulander case gavel to gavel..what a nutbag Narcissist that was! JUSTICE FOR TRAVIS! Cheers !

  189. 03/23/2013 at 3:51 pm | #200

    Yeah thats the answer.. so it was observer that answered me originally. Thx observer

  190. 03/23/2013 at 3:52 pm | #201

    I see you have it but will repost again (Samantha wrote these exact words in my journal so this is all legit):

    From the Lady in Court:

    The first thing I want to post is to transcribe exactly what Samantha wrote in my journal about donations:

    Paypal address: justice4travisalexander@gmail.com

    Direct mail: Samantha Alexander
    PO Box 130023
    Carlsbad, CA 92013

    Make checks out to : Samantha Alexander

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 4:00 pm | #202

      katiecoolady! Hey GF! Thanks for stopping in…sending you {{{hugs}}} for all you do!

  191. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 3:55 pm | #203

    Syntara :
    yay you are around. Excellent! Take your time <img src="http://s0.wp.com/wp-

    Having some chokkie with my green tea which should be in my bloodstream in the very near future. I am so pleased my hubby is patient, he’s been doing most of the cooking during this trial, I had the guilts yesterday so I made him his favorite ghetti – course my MO behind that is that it goes for more than one day – lol

  192. 03/23/2013 at 3:58 pm | #204

    ok he is asleep then he wakes up and gives jer the fingers for taking the shots. Looks like only the two of him.

    Hers… no time stamps on those ones except the rear end cavern display and unfortunately is black background right where the time stamp would be. Need to find one of the Rear Car entry that I can actually see the time.

  193. 03/23/2013 at 4:04 pm | #205

    Chrissie

    Having some chokkie with my green tea which should be in my bloodstream in the very near future. I am so pleased my hubby is patient, he’s been doing most of the cooking during this trial, I had the guilts yesterday so I made him his favorite ghetti – course my MO behind that is that it goes for more than one day – lol

    Same my defacto ‘hubby’ has the patience of a saint, he knows what I’ve been through and he’s doing practically everything. He’s a real gem.

  194. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 4:06 pm | #206

    katiecoolady :

    Hi guys! Katiecoolady here (you guys call me Lady in Court). I see you’re copying my posts from WS over here from my court observations (no worries)…you have a lively group going on here and if you ever feel inclined to pop in there too w/ comments, feel free. Some know I’m on a campaign to get funds for the family right now. I’ve been in contact with the legal team who have expressed how impt it is to have them front and center in court (and as a surviviing sister of a homicide victim who’s been thru two DP trials I know this myself). The family is struggling right now. If you even have $10 to paypal them it all adds up and they really are in dire need to keep coming to court. I don’t normally ask but in this case I am. I’ve taken a leave from my job and am going to court to support them most days and sharing my observations for free. I’m just asking people to consider making a donation to the Alexander family. justice4travisalexander@gmail.com goes to Samantha who doles out the $. I asked her personally on Thurs so I know this is correct. Btw, I also watched that crazy Neulander case gavel to gavel..what a nutbag Narcissist that was! JUSTICE FOR TRAVIS! Cheers !

    Katie, only did it after you gave me permission via pm! Hope that is still ok!
    donchais/blu

  195. 03/23/2013 at 4:08 pm | #207

    That is absolutely ok!!! I’m just on a mission to raise funds….that’s all. ;) I wish I had time to participate on EVERY forum…you guys have a good group here. :)

  196. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 4:08 pm | #208

    Syntara :
    flat out like a lizard drinking? have you been hanging with my fellow countrymen?

    I have a few good friends in OZ, some I went to school with in the UK, a couple of others shared my flat in London, and one of my very best friends in the film biz relocated back there a couple of years ago. (She is from OZ but lived in LA.) While she was visiting down under she and her hubby had a head on collision and she broke her neck. She has healed, well, almost back to normal, but has stayed there, we both miss each others craziness something awful, but FB and Skype helps :-)

  197. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 4:11 pm | #209

    katiecoolady :

    That is absolutely ok!!! I’m just on a mission to raise funds….that’s all. ;) I wish I had time to participate on EVERY forum…you guys have a good group here. :)

    Me too! You are most welcome here anytime…know your schedule is a beast!

  198. 03/23/2013 at 4:14 pm | #210

    At this rate I’m developing carpal tunnel in my FEET. Keep up the good fight guys! :)

  199. 03/23/2013 at 4:15 pm | #211

    You need to get your arse over here, you’d fit in perfecly!!

  200. 03/23/2013 at 4:16 pm | #212

    Katiecoolady love your work :D

  201. 03/23/2013 at 4:17 pm | #213

    oops my comment #211 is to Chrissie

  202. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 4:18 pm | #214

    Chrissie A :

    Syntara :
    Chrissie I need you where are you sweetpea!!!

    Hi Honey!!! Sorry, I’ve been busy with this (in more ways than one) – don’t mean to be ANAL about it – lol
    http://www.dropshots.com/JooJooRed#albums/Fun%20Pics/2013-03-23/01:03:38

    LOL…I have so much admiration for that man. He truly deserves to get what he has worked so hard for in this case, JUSTICE!

  203. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 4:20 pm | #215

    katiecoolady :

    At this rate I’m developing carpal tunnel in my FEET. Keep up the good fight guys! :)

    wow! ya still got feet..impressed!

  204. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 4:22 pm | #216

    Chrissie A :
    Around 6:30 am – still a bit fuzzy, I hope you are feeling better <img

    Didn’t sleep great either, Cheney Mason, Casey Anthony’s attorney dropped into my dreams and woke me up at 2. Dozed for a bit this afternoon. Other than that I’m just ducky!! :-)

  205. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 4:24 pm | #217

    katiecoolady :
    That is absolutely ok!!! I’m just on a mission to raise funds….that’s all. I wish I had time to participate on EVERY forum…you guys have a good group here.

    Hi Katie!! I always look forward to hearing you and Trish on Sundays. I had a tear or two listening about the trip that you took to Travis’ house with his siblings. So many are grateful that you turned your trauma into an advocacy to help others in the same situation. I don’t know you but I am proud of you! I have been sending a little here and there to the Alexander family, and Samantha replies personally with a thank you note – we can all learn something from the class and composure of this family. Thanks again!

  206. 03/23/2013 at 4:24 pm | #218

    An analysis of whether or not Jodi Arias Has Low Self-Esteem: http://kristinarandle.com/blog/does-jodi-arias-have-low-self-esteem/

  207. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 4:32 pm | #219

    Donchais – quick question. What is WS that Lady from Court refers to? Thanks! :-) Also just manually deleted over 1400 CFJ emails. Think things are back to normal now (knock on wood)

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 4:38 pm | #220

      MMD Websleuths

  208. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 4:33 pm | #221

    Syntara :
    oops my comment #211 is to Chrissie

    LOL!! I’ve been threatening, but since the economy took a dive, it’s waylaid my trips for a bit, I’ll definitely hunt you down (in an unstalking way) when I get out there. ;-)

  209. 03/23/2013 at 4:34 pm | #222

    DougIme
    LOL…I have so much admiration for that man. He truly deserves to get what he has worked so hard for in this case, JUSTICE!

    Oh you have no idea how much I agree with that sentiment.

  210. 03/23/2013 at 4:35 pm | #223

    MMD I was going to ask that too ;)

  211. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 4:35 pm | #224

    Syntara :
    Hers… no time stamps on those ones except the rear end cavern display and unfortunately is black background right where the time stamp would be. Need to find one of the Rear Car entry that I can actually see the time.

    You seriously want to look at that again???? smh

  212. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 4:36 pm | #225

    Syntara :
    DougIme
    LOL…I have so much admiration for that man. He truly deserves to get what he has worked so hard for in this case, JUSTICE!

    Oh you have no idea how much I agree with that sentiment.

    I think everyone here agrees with you here!

  213. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 4:37 pm | #226

    Syntara :
    MMD I was going to ask that too

    What can I say – great minds ;-)

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 6:10 pm | #227

      @Syn, MMD- I asked that 2 posts ago but didn’t get answered. :( so yep, 3 great minds think alike) lol!!

  214. 03/23/2013 at 4:38 pm | #228

    Im not bothered about the content MMD didnt take much notice of it. I wanna know if those shots are before the sleeping shot. It’s important in the hypotheses of the scenario of that day.

    If so it proves beyond reasonable doubt she set them up herself if he’s asleep!

  215. 03/23/2013 at 4:41 pm | #229

    there is a time on the rear garage door shot..buts its over the black and I cant read it dammit! need a photoshop expert who can lift is somehow if possible or find another one where it’s legible I think these shots are part of the set up that goes with the recorded phone sex.

  216. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 4:42 pm | #230

    MMD :

    Chrissie A :
    Around 6:30 am – still a bit fuzzy, I hope you are feeling better <img

    Didn’t sleep great either, Cheney Mason, Casey Anthony’s attorney dropped into my dreams and woke me up at 2. Dozed for a bit this afternoon. Other than that I’m just ducky!!

    Ugh! Don’t envy that at all! As long as the migraines are holding back tho?

    I noticed that some are looking for docs relating to the case, I posted some on the previous chat, but if they were missed here they are:

    Yreka (so called) Burglary
    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-robbery-report-of-jodis-grandparents.html
    Flores Report:
    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/police-files-on-jodi-arias.html#more
    JA Indicment – Best in full screen:
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/109828551/Jodi-Arias-Court-Documents

    Docstoc is a great resource for the court docs, there is no need to download them (unless you want to) just hit fullscreen – here is the link to all the Arias docs they currently have:
    http://www.docstoc.com/search/jodi%20arias?catid=0

  217. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 4:46 pm | #231

    Syntara :
    Hey that’s my doll!!!!! Chrissie you bloody genius!!!

    I thought that you would like him, seeing as he’s floaty, he can swim right alongside you :-)

  218. 03/23/2013 at 4:50 pm | #232

    I luv ya girl you make me laugh heaps and smile constantly! <—– Chrissie

  219. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 4:53 pm | #233

    Donchais – Oh I am so glad you have this site. I just went to Websleuths and I cannot ever figure out that type of forum. I get totally lost!!! You are my hero for having this blog!!! sending hugs {{{{{ }}}}}

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 5:07 pm | #234

      MMD It can be difficult to navigate because there is soooo much going on. I tend to do only one subject at a time, even though a few may overlap at times. katiecoolady is a hero of mine and I am honored she showed up here! {{{hugs}}} back attcha!

  220. 03/23/2013 at 4:53 pm | #235

    How dodgy does that burglary look… seriously how can there be any reasonable doubt about the nature of that. She is so stupid. I guess no proof = gets away with it so she doesn’t care. All she cares about is getting away with it that’s how ppl like her operate it’s he only real satisfaction they get out of life.

    Great link Chrissie Thank You

  221. 03/23/2013 at 4:55 pm | #236

    Ditto MMD I was like… gawd I’m outta here!

  222. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/23/2013 at 5:03 pm | #237

    MMD Thanks for the link to those awful pics.
    SYNTARA: I thought the images not shown were of Travis “straddling”her.I thought they had shots of them during sex. I think you’re right! It looks like he was asleep & then woke raising his hand.The others were taken on timer by ja. Jesus. I saw a link yesterday of the shots from Psycho against these shots and it made me curl.Maybe he had thought she’d gone as someone wrote yesterday. Maybe he turned and suddenly saw her. The water was running to cover noises. Maybe not, but those deadful images of that POS will disturb my next 15 minutes or so.

  223. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 5:08 pm | #238

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    MMD Thanks for the link to those awful pics.
    SYNTARA: I thought the images not shown were of Travis “straddling”her.I thought they had shots of them during sex. I think you’re right! It looks like he was asleep & then woke raising his hand.The others were taken on timer by ja. Jesus. I saw a link yesterday of the shots from Psycho against these shots and it made me curl.Maybe he had thought she’d gone as someone wrote yesterday. Maybe he turned and suddenly saw her. The water was running to cover noises. Maybe not, but those dreadful images of that POS will disturb my next 15 minutes or so.

    You’re actually thanking me. Robert didn’t you get partial retinal blindness from them or want to hurl???????????

    As for the ones straddling JA – I think those are a figment of her imagination which I bet doesn’t surprise you. ;-)

  224. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 5:08 pm | #239

    Syntara :
    I luv ya girl you make me laugh heaps and smile constantly! <—– Chrissie

    Awww, that warms the cockles of me ‘eart luvvie!, While we all are aware that this is a dreadful crime, I think we need some humor, which Travis also displayed during his short time with us.

    As promised the bullet’s trajectory pic: (Courtesy of Chris Stark)

    http://tinyurl.com/br9h28t

  225. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 5:12 pm | #240

    Kristina Randle :An analysis of whether or not Jodi Arias Has Low Self-Esteem: http://kristinarandle.com/blog/does-jodi-arias-have-low-self-esteem/

    I loved your article. You brought up some good points and good examples to show that Jodi Arias is assertive and aggressive, not suffering from low self esteem.

    Here’s some incidents I would add.

    She also had to be assertive and aggressive to:

    Move from California to Arizona to be near a man after a breakup.

    Show up at Travis house when he told her she couldn’t stay there because there wasn’t room and tell 30 people she was his girlfriend when she’d only had two dates with him and he was darting another woman

    Sleep under his Travis’s Christmas tree when he told her to leave.

    Follow him around on dates and slash his tires, hack into his email and Facebook account and send anonymous threatening emails to his female friends.

    I was assertive when I was single and in my 20s and lived in California and I was afraid to drive by myself even on the California freeways at night because many girls were murdered when their car broke down. I would never drive cross country by myself and sleep in my car then or now.

  226. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 5:12 pm | #241

    donchais :
    MMD It can be difficult to navigate because there is soooo much going on. I tend to do only one subject at a time, even though a few may overlap at times. katiecoolady is a hero of mine and I am honored she showed up here! {{{hugs}}} back attcha!

    Well if she is a hero of yours, then she is automatically a hero of ours so please tell her!!!

    We are honoured that she showed up but that doesn’t take away from what you do trying to advocate for victims. We are honoured that we are allowed to use this blog. Sincerely honoured and you’re our hero!!! I know that I speak for all of us!!! :-)

  227. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 5:16 pm | #242

    Chrissie A :
    Docstoc is a great resource for the court docs, there is no need to download them (unless you want to) just hit fullscreen – here is the link to all the Arias docs they currently have:
    /blockquote>
    I am currently reading the docs on Docstoc. I may not surface for days………………………… just sayin…………. everything in one place!!! I may get lost ;-)

  228. 03/23/2013 at 5:19 pm | #243

    Robert – yes that’s my theory and she got him to take the psycho shower shots ( of course he didnt know they were poses from psycho that was all her). She meant him to die in the shower – nice little cleanup. Leaves no trace she’s been there and rings in at whatever time. It was supposed to be a lot quicker. 4 hours she rang is it Ryan? the new beau. I think it was supposed to be only however long it takes to drive to that spot from Mesa (I’ll have to reference that great vid for a precise time. The mess was her downfall, she didnt expect it at all. That’s what thwarted her Travis thwarted her plan by fighting for his life so hard.

    She’s diabolical. In fact there’s no word in the english language that I know that describes her suffice as to say psychopath.

  229. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 5:24 pm | #244

    Hey all! I see the troops have all reassembled. Yay! Finally got all caught up on comments. Just a few observations…

    Donchais Can’t thank you enough for all you do. I’m so happy I found this site with so many great peeps out there.

    Lady in Court Thank you madam for all your great posts and observations. Your comments mirror exactly what all of us our thinking. I will be making a donation to Samantha Alexander so thanks for posting that link.

    Chrissie, Syntara, MMD, CiCi You all constantly have me in stitches!

    MMD Thanks for the warning about JA’s nasty photos. Had to ponder that for awhile before I finally looked. Definitely can’t unring that bell now. But I was forewarned!!

    Observer Love reading your astute and on point comments.

    And to the rest of you that I’ve failed to mention hanging head in shame You’re all wonderful and just add great insights. It’s truly a pleasure to be here with all you great people!!!! :-O

  230. Essem
    03/23/2013 at 5:25 pm | #245

    Syntara :
    Robert oh maybe he said tenacity… I heard it as veracity… I better go check myself!!! haha

    can’t bear to go back and listen again but I’m pretty sure he said veracity too

  231. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 5:26 pm | #246

    LAINE
    (From previous page)
    03/23/2013 at 6:48 am | #632 Quote
    Hi everyone! I have a couple of videos for you to watch on youtube. David Micheal has put together a part 1 & 2 called Finding Premeditaion.
    Part one: http://youtu.be/LoQoF-UE6I8
    Part two: http://youtu.be/CskWKO3gW2E

    Great minds – lol

    I found the videos fascinating, when you look at the maps – premed is so evident!! It’s such a shame that she did not have the GPS tracking enabled on her rental car especially from Pasedena to AZ!! I think that GPS operation should be a requirement in rental cars from this point on. This case would have been open and shut with the that enabled. (Although that said, the defense would probably find fault with the satellites.)

  232. 03/23/2013 at 5:31 pm | #247

    Ok that shot trajectory fits my scenario perfectly she could be standing above him and shot him virtually straight down. I definitely think his body convulsed or something and she panicked and shot him. How can that not haunt her? That moment she thought he was still alive after all that! Even a psychopath would have to feel that fear surely?

    Yet she can lie so calmly starting just 4 hours later? No I’m sorry but this thing is no human, it may look like it is but it’s not.

  233. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 5:35 pm | #248

    Tracey A :
    MMD Thanks for the warning about JA’s nasty photos. Had to ponder that for awhile before I finally looked. Definitely can’t unring that bell now. But I was forewarned!!

    Even forewarning someone is truly not strong enough to describe now nasty some of those photos are. Truly truly nasty and the more ya say it the more natural curiosity makes ya want to see them. :-(

    Plus for someone who was simply going on a roadtrip and not planning on visiting TA, why did she stop to have her nails (in reality a fresh brazilian) done? Forcing someone to give her one and go near that vajajay is criminal and should be a crime against humanity! imho

    God, just typing this is making my face go into a look of disgust (just realized what I was doing unconsciously)

  234. 03/23/2013 at 5:35 pm | #249

    Good that’s 3 of us that think it was veracity. I don’t think we need put ourselves through the cruel and unusual punishment to locate said testimony let’s say it’s veracity :D

    Thanks Essem. Anyone else who can confirm or refute feel free to chip in..

  235. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 5:37 pm | #250

    Tracey – it even took ages for my computer to post that last comment because even it is grossed out! :-(

  236. 03/23/2013 at 5:40 pm | #251

    MMD
    Plus for someone who was simply going on a roadtrip and not planning on visiting TA, why did she stop to have her nails (in reality a fresh brazilian) done? Forcing someone to give her one and go near that vajajay is criminal and should be a crime against humanity! imho

    Listen Deary. You really must learn not to hold back so much. Learn to speak your mind. You are showing sign of low self esteem.

  237. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 5:41 pm | #252

    MMD :
    Donchais – Oh I am so glad you have this site. I just went to Websleuths and I cannot ever figure out that type of forum. I get totally lost!!! You are my hero for having this blog!!! sending hugs {{{{{ }}}}}

    Agreed, same with the WildAboutTrial’ forum, plus some can get pretty rude on there I hear via the Twit – This is by far the best – Thanks so much Donchais! You have bought together a great bunch of peeps, you alleviate our frustrations, and answer all of our questions – all topped off with a delightful sense of humor. :-)

  238. 03/23/2013 at 5:42 pm | #253

    Tracey – you got any pills to calm her down? She’s almost rabid.

  239. Lisa M
    03/23/2013 at 5:44 pm | #254

    MMD on 03/23/2013 at 3:34
    “Check out this link – it show’s TA awake and there are time stamps. BE VERY CAREFUL – THESE PHOTOS CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!! Consider yourself warned!! These are courtesy of Chris Stark”

    Oh why didn’t I listen to you?! That bell cannot be unrung! That was more of Jodi Arias than I ever needed to see! Argh wish I could wash those images out of my eyes!

  240. 03/23/2013 at 5:46 pm | #255

    PTSD anyone? mmwhwhahahaha

  241. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 5:52 pm | #256

    Tracey A :
    And to the rest of you that I’ve failed to mention hanging head in shame You’re all wonderful and just add great insights. It’s truly a pleasure to be here with all you great people!!!! :-O

    Back at ya darlin’! :-)

    Please don’t ever hang your head in shame. It is not just a few but the totality of our wonderful peeps here, especially our host donchais, that makes this such an awesome blog! Everyone here has something important to contribute, different life lessons, even so many nationalities, which makes us what we are and we truly have each other’s backs. Plus it is a safe place to voice absolutely anything and everything without worrying about being personally attacked!!!! (which in itself is extremely rare these days)

    The size of the blog has grown so tremendously that it is hard to keep track of everyone from one day to the next so never, ever hang your head in shame!!! :-( (hands on hips) Got it!!!

    —getting off soapbox now……………….

  242. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 5:53 pm | #257

    Syntara :
    MMD
    Plus for someone who was simply going on a roadtrip and not planning on visiting TA, why did she stop to have her nails (in reality a fresh brazilian) done? Forcing someone to give her one and go near that vajajay is criminal and should be a crime against humanity! imho
    Listen Deary. You really must learn not to hold back so much. Learn to speak your mind. You are showing sign of low self esteem.

    ROFL Syn!!!!

  243. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 5:55 pm | #258

    Syn – How about some of Donchais goofy pills??? That oughta work!

  244. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 5:57 pm | #259

    Tracey A :
    Hey all! I see the troops have all reassembled.…

    Lady in Court Thank you madam for all your great posts and observations. Your comments mirror exactly what all of us our thinking. I will be making a donation to Samantha Alexander so thanks for posting that link.

    Hi Tracey!!!
    Love her observations!! I salivate over every word! She makes me feel as if I were in the courtroom with her plus she’s a hoot to boot! Interesting that she mentioned the note passing scenario between the MS and JA’s mother, (Which probably turned out to be one of her gawd awful scribbles to be sold on ebay) I do hope that the fact of the Ribbon wearing will not be considered under appeal, (that poor family) I really try to be unbiased but the defense team are as slimy as a snail trail.

  245. 03/23/2013 at 5:57 pm | #260

    Yep there’s MMDs low self esteem showing again:
    Exhibit A :

    “(hands on hips) Got it!!!
    —getting off soapbox now……………….”

  246. 03/23/2013 at 5:59 pm | #261

    Tracey A :
    Syn – How about some of Donchais goofy pills??? That oughta work!

    Not heard of those before but they sound like they might do the trick.

  247. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 6:00 pm | #262

    Donchais, just out of curiosity, how many posters were here when this specific trial first started and what’s our total number of peeps currently, not including those still lurking or trolls, of course?????

    • donchais
      03/23/2013 at 6:03 pm | #263

      MMD No freakin clue, lol! There were too many previous trials being covered to go sort that out…You guys have certainly given me a run for the money tho! :-)

  248. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:00 pm | #264

    Syn – I also clearly heard veracity and laughed when I heard him say it. What a choice of words!!! Even more funny would have been if he’d chosen (temerity). As in “I can’t believe the prosecutor had the temerity to ask me such a question”! LOL. Cuz JM certainly as temerity!!!

  249. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:06 pm | #265

    Syn – I’ve always thought that MMD suffered from low self esteem. You can certainly tell that from her last few posts! lol And we didn’t even need Dr. Do Little to diagnose her! lmao!

  250. 03/23/2013 at 6:07 pm | #266

    Trace I cant understand why he said it and he didn’t try to correct it either. I was only Juan’s objection that shut him up I was like huh why did he object then?

  251. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:09 pm | #267

    Lisa M Oh why didn’t I listen to you?! That bell cannot be unrung! That was more of Jodi Arias than I ever needed to see! Argh wish I could wash those images out of my eyes!

    My thoughts exactly! I should’ve listened to her as well.

  252. 03/23/2013 at 6:10 pm | #268

    Tracey – Yes well I thought she had low self esteem when she vowed was monitoring my sleep patterns, demanding the times I slept and threatening to come over and sort me out.

    Not to mention he possessiveness of one cute little prosecutor who shall at this juncture remain nameless for fear of setting her off again.

  253. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:12 pm | #269

    Syn – I thought the same thing. Juan, just let him keep hanging himself. He was a little to quick on that objection, but if we heard it, I’ll bet the jury heard it too!

  254. 03/23/2013 at 6:12 pm | #270

    Janeto hey how are ya?

    asked what by the way Im lost sorry.

  255. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:12 pm | #271

    Janeto! Welcome back! How you be today?

  256. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 6:13 pm | #272

    Syntara :
    Not heard of those before but they sound like they might do the trick.

    Hope this clears this up for ya Syn!!! This from donchais the day Dr. Quack got started on his trip to oblivion ;-)

    STOP THE PRESSES! DSM has just issued a new diagnosis, PTSAT (Post Trauma Stress Arias Trial). Diagnosed early enough, patients can expect a full recovery, albeit a slow recovery. Physicians around the world suggest taking two goofy pills and avoiding all things Arias related for 12 hours. As always, check with your physician for possible side effects. This has been a Public Service announcement!

    I also find that the new foil hats help to keep PTSAT at bay much better!!! :-)

  257. 03/23/2013 at 6:14 pm | #273

    I would have loved the x examination of it. As per my earlier Q A

  258. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:16 pm | #274

    Syn – Not to mention he possessiveness of one cute little prosecutor who shall at this juncture remain nameless for fear of setting her off again.

    As you said before, she can be downright Miss Bossy Pants!!

    (Still luv ya MMD ;) )

  259. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 6:16 pm | #275

    From the Twit:
    JodiAriasGUILTY
    Why didn’t Dr. Fog discuss JA’s journal entry where she says she wants to “Kill all that is not serving me”
    http://tinyurl.com/cpj6j3j

  260. 03/23/2013 at 6:20 pm | #276

    WTF???
    JodiAriasGUILTY
    she says she wants to “Kill all that is not serving me”

    Whaaaaaaaat… why havent we seen that before?

  261. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:21 pm | #277

    Chrissie – Whoa!! I had not seen that before. I thought she stated over and over and over again that she didn’t write anything negative. That seems to be a tiny bit negative, but that’s just me! (Just a wee bit of sarcasm, can ya tell).

  262. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 6:21 pm | #278

    Hey Janet *****waves****** glad you are back with your peeps! Do ya still have your company?

    signed
    sufferer of low self esteem ;-) according to Drs Quack and Syn ROFL

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 6:31 pm | #279

      Waves back everybody!!! Missed u guys too!!!!! I’m having issues right now with my phone though. I think I need to get it a foil hat of its own!! Lol! Family is gone, but much cleanup to do. Just wanted to touch base for now. Katycoolaid!! I KNEW who the lady in court was!! So glad to hear from her!!! Hope she relates all us & support for them! Oops! Phone going nuts. Gotta go for now honey peeps!!! Luv u all!!!

  263. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:23 pm | #280

    Now see there Syn she’s just down right mocking us now! Settle down MMD!!! lmao

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 6:33 pm | #281

      Roflmao! Gosh u guys have me laughing & smiling so much. We r all nuts I’m afraid!!!!

  264. 03/23/2013 at 6:24 pm | #282

    ahhh I see why cos it seems she is talking about her mind. But sheesh doesn’t that show a troubled mind? Wow that’s an insight in itself.

  265. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 6:24 pm | #283

    Janeto :
    You know, I was remembering, I have that book “Your Erroneous Zones” by Dr. Wayne W. Dyer… I read it years ago!!!! Haven’t read it in a VERY long time, but If anyone hasn’t got it, and you want to ask questions, I’ll try and find what you are looking for……

    Hi Janet!!! I was half tempted to buy it, but sanity took over – does your cover have his Jack Nicholson “The Shining” look alike pose on it?

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 6:36 pm | #284

      Lol!! Chrissie, that book cover sure does have the “Shining”pict!!!

  266. 03/23/2013 at 6:24 pm | #285

    Its ok Trace… ignore her… she’s just taken her pills remember?

  267. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:25 pm | #286

    I think MMD might’ve taken one too many goofy pills! LOL

  268. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:26 pm | #287

    Great minds Syn, great minds…

  269. 03/23/2013 at 6:29 pm | #288

    Chrissie
    Hi Janet!!! I was half tempted to buy it, but sanity took over – does your cover have his Jack Nicholson “The Shining” look alike pose on it?

    I reckon Roberts would cos I think his is the 1970′s edition.

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 6:39 pm | #289

      So right Syn! Copyright 1976!!! Smarty pants!! :)

  270. Ci Ci’s Circle
    03/23/2013 at 6:30 pm | #290

    Syntara :
    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?

    There were statements made to Flores (I think that’s where we saw it) that are in his report that indicated JA stole TA’s journals!

  271. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 6:30 pm | #291

    I haven’t taken too many goofy pills nor mocking ya! I’m simply suffering from PTSAT which happened last weekend as well!!! ;-) I’m sure that now that we have received the new and improved, extra heavy duty foil hats, I won’t be as bad next weekend!!!!

  272. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 6:31 pm | #292

    MMD :

    Marilyn N :
    ONce again, I am sitting here in my pj’s with you guys!
    Must go get dressed now!!

    I haven’t gotten out of my flannel nightie since the damn trial started except to go to the dr yesterday!!! Well that’s not exactly true, I have showered and changed it but ya know what I mean. I’m sure that my neigbours are convinced that I only own one single red plain L.L. Bean flannel nightie.
    Oh well, let them think I’m the crazy lady in the house with the dogs that they never see – I don’t care. Give them something to talk about during our cold winter months. I have more important priorities

    Ha ha! I’m just catching up on todays blogs, I went online for a few moments this AM then had to talk into and make myself clean my house today! I get notta done during the week with the trial going and reading the blogs here and working. I love this site!

  273. 03/23/2013 at 6:31 pm | #293

    haha Trace snap!

  274. 03/23/2013 at 6:33 pm | #294

    I’m suffer pist state cos they have driven me to drink after spending so much time at the mad hatters.

  275. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 6:33 pm | #295

    OK, totally OT (I know, against my own rules)…why do dogs bark and kids scream????

    Major sciatica attack working…in my butt cheek, down to my knee, through the calf and into my ankle…took Alleve and decided to go horizontal…dog (who barks at leaves falling) is out of control and kids (live on a cul-de-sac) playing on street and shouting their brains out are making me mental!

    There, I’ve said it and I’m sticking to the story…sheesh!

  276. 03/23/2013 at 6:34 pm | #296

    byee Janeto *waves*

  277. 03/23/2013 at 6:36 pm | #297

    aww Donchais. You ok? Take care please.

  278. 03/23/2013 at 6:38 pm | #298

    CCC… if you pick anything else up on that can you let me know plse re journals that is?

  279. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 6:39 pm | #299

    Syntara :

    aww Donchais. You ok? Take care please.

    Hopefully will be if I caught it soon enuff…prolly spend alot of horizontal tomorrow, cause Monday will be a killer day at the computer, with the hearing and trial!

  280. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:41 pm | #300

    Tracey A hands out membership cards to Janeto and Kimmy/b> “The Messy House Club”

    I’m a card carrying member during this trial.

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 7:23 pm | #301

      @Tracey a- lol!! Make mine platinum please!!!

  281. 03/23/2013 at 6:43 pm | #302

    Oh I do hope you did. Yes please rest tomorrow as much as you can. Your health is priority one. Take the opportunity

  282. 03/23/2013 at 6:45 pm | #303

    janeto :
    So right Syn! Copyright 1976!!! Smarty pants!!

    Yay me Im a smarty pants. Do you have those… they are like M & Ms kinda but been around way longer. Smarties that is. Multicoloured.

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 7:28 pm | #304

      Syn- smarties,m&ms’ goofy pills, tin foil hats, (which BTW I need one for my phone :) barf bags, hineybutts, what else can we goofballs come up with??? Lmao!!

  283. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 6:45 pm | #305

    Syntara Why is he Mat Mcartney) so loyal to her? Was he in on it for some twisted reason? What does she have on him? Is he just totally enamored with her he’d cover even this heinous slaughter for her? Surely nobody is that besotted?

    Jodi manipulates men with sex and her innocent little girl act. Bobby, Daryl, Matt and Travis all remained friends with her even after the breakups. Matt had nothing to do with the murder or she would have blamed it on him instead of Travis. Matt was her close friend and saw her as a sister. He believed her lies about Travis and didn’t want her to be put to death so he lied for her.

    Still catching up – I believe he’s married now with a couple of children, could be that they had a secret tryst here and there and she’s holding that over him? (Not everyone will do the donger in the backdoor, then she became butt buds with each of them after the relationships ended?)

  284. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:47 pm | #306

    Donchais – Truly feel your pain. I’m suffering the exact same thing. Been driving me crazy since this trial started. My massage therapist told me to sit on a tennis ball and I have to tell you IT WORKS! Hurts like hell at first but if you roll it (not to be crude or anything) around your butt cheek you’ll feel the pressure. I actually keep them in my car too! Works great. Try it if you can.

  285. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 6:47 pm | #307

    donchais :
    OK, totally OT (I know, against my own rules)…why do dogs bark and kids scream????

    Cause they can!!! That’s the way I felt the day my email went wonky, one dog was barking at her pretend friends, telemarketers were calling, pissed at Dr, Quack, totally frustrated with my computer, had dr’s appt next day, head hurting, over tired and we were getting a storm. I went right around the bend ;-( Got totally pissy!!!

    Sorry about the sciatica. Truly not fun and miserable when you have back issues! Has the Alleve kicked in yet?

  286. 03/23/2013 at 6:47 pm | #308

    If it wasn’t for my dear sweet ‘hubby’ my house would be certifiable since I accidentally found out this trial was on.

  287. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 6:49 pm | #309

    Syntara :
    I can’t believe that Dr Strangelove is on his 3 or 4 day of testimony and he needs to take documents home to review. Rabbit hole is beckoning!

    Oh I totally agree with you! I was thinking WTH? Then he was b$%^&ing about something hadn’t been returned to him a 3 ring binder or something. Give me a freaking break. If this guy even remotley has an assistant it has to be Mrs, Suewiggins from the Carole Burnett show!

  288. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:49 pm | #310

    Syn – We have Smarties here too. Don’t like them tho, too sour for me.

  289. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 6:49 pm | #311

    MMD :

    donchais :
    OK, totally OT (I know, against my own rules)…why do dogs bark and kids scream????

    Cause they can!!! That’s the way I felt the day my email went wonky, one dog was barking at her pretend friends, telemarketers were calling, pissed at Dr, Quack, totally frustrated with my computer, had dr’s appt next day, head hurting, over tired and we were getting a storm. I went right around the bend ;-( Got totally pissy!!!

    Sorry about the sciatica. Truly not fun and miserable when you have back issues! Has the Alleve kicked in yet?

    The vodka is, lol!

  290. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:51 pm | #312

    RE: Chrissie’s post #303 – Here come the tears of laughter again. I really wish you would learn to speak your mind. Don’t be shy! lmao

  291. 03/23/2013 at 6:51 pm | #313

    Chrissie
    Still catching up – I believe he’s married now with a couple of children, could be that they had a secret tryst here and there and she’s holding that over him? (Not everyone will do the donger in the backdoor, then she became butt buds with each of them after the relationships ended?)

    aaaahhhhhhhhh now that begins to put a bit more perspective on it. Thank You. On going friends with benefits type arrangement you can imagine what that would entail.. and who knows what pics and recordings she might have. ok ok making a little more sense now.

  292. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 6:52 pm | #314

    Tracey A :

    Donchais – Truly feel your pain. I’m suffering the exact same thing. Been driving me crazy since this trial started. My massage therapist told me to sit on a tennis ball and I have to tell you IT WORKS! Hurts like hell at first but if you roll it (not to be crude or anything) around your butt cheek you’ll feel the pressure. I actually keep them in my car too! Works great. Try it if you can.

    Makes total sense, ta!

  293. 03/23/2013 at 6:53 pm | #315

    Donchaise
    The vodka is, lol!

    LOL *bottoms up*! Don :D

  294. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 6:54 pm | #316

    Cheers Donchais!

  295. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 6:55 pm | #317

    donchais :
    OK, totally OT (I know, against my own rules)…why do dogs bark and kids scream????
    Major sciatica attack working…in my butt cheek, down to my knee, through the calf and into my ankle…took Alleve and decided to go horizontal…dog (who barks at leaves falling) is out of control and kids (live on a cul-de-sac) playing on street and shouting their brains out are making me mental!
    There, I’ve said it and I’m sticking to the story…sheesh!

    Because they pick up the vibes that you want to rest of course – I prescribe a bubble bath, accompanied with a libation of your choice, (this of course is without removing your new and improved Tin Foil Hat) we can all take a break so that you in turn will get some rest until you feel better ~~~healing vibes and virtual hugs sent ~~~~~~

  296. 03/23/2013 at 6:56 pm | #318

    Tracey A :
    Syn – We have Smarties here too. Don’t like them tho, too sour for me.

    You have different smarties than us then I think Ours are chocolate with hards shell.. like M&Ms but flatter and a bit larger loads coours…… sour.. just can’t see it.

  297. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 6:57 pm | #319

    donchais :
    The vodka is, lol!

    Atta girl!!! I find booze, chocolate or heavy duty drugs really help!

    Take care of yourself. Your health is more important than this blog. Shut us all down until you feel better – we would fully understand!!

  298. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 6:58 pm | #320

    Syntara :

    Donchaise
    The vodka is, lol!

    LOL *bottoms up*! Don :D

    Cheers!

  299. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 6:58 pm | #321

    Syntara :
    You have different smarties than us then I think Ours are chocolate with hards shell.. like M&Ms but flatter and a bit larger loads coours…… sour.. just can’t see it.

    The States doesn’t have the same Smarties but Canada does. They don’t have crunchy bars either.

  300. 03/23/2013 at 6:59 pm | #322

    Syntara :
    I can’t believe that Dr Strangelove is on his 3 or 4 day of testimony and he needs to take documents home to review. Rabbit hole is beckoning!

    Kimmy
    Oh I totally agree with you! I was thinking WTH? Then he was b$%^&ing about something hadn’t been returned to him a 3 ring binder or something. Give me a freaking break. If this guy even remotley has an assistant it has to be Mrs, Suewiggins from the Carole Burnett show!

    Dunno who that is but I reckon I can get a feel for it.

  301. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 6:59 pm | #323

    Syntara :
    If it wasn’t for my dear sweet ‘hubby’ my house would be certifiable since I accidentally found out this trial was on.

    Mine is certifiable – hubby is great but can be a bit messy, I may have to take tomorrow off and take care of it, it’s giving me the guilts :-)

  302. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 7:00 pm | #324

    MMD :

    donchais :
    The vodka is, lol!

    Atta girl!!! I find booze, chocolate or heavy duty drugs really help!

    Take care of yourself. Your health is more important than this blog. Shut us all down until you feel better – we would fully understand!!

    Nah, but until we sort out the moderation glitch, just understand, it ain’t me!

  303. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 7:01 pm | #325

    donchais :

    Syntara :
    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?

    Several, but they are missing!

    I think I just read that they were stolen around the time the tires were slashed.

  304. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:02 pm | #326

    Syntara :
    Syntara :
    I can’t believe that Dr Strangelove is on his 3 or 4 day of testimony and he needs to
    take documents home to review. Rabbit hole is beckoning!

    Kimmy
    Oh I totally agree with you! I was thinking WTH? Then he was b$%^&ing about something hadn’t been returned to him a 3 ring binder or something. Give me a freaking break. If this guy even remotley has an assistant it has to be Mrs, Suewiggins from the Carole Burnett show!
    Dunno who that is but I reckon I can get a feel for it.

    Obviously you’ve had a deprived life in OZ! So sad :-(

  305. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:04 pm | #327

    Donchais – I’ve stopped using the “quote” button. That typically puts me in time out, er, moderation. I just cut n paste now. Seems to work better.

  306. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:04 pm | #328

    donchais :
    Nah, but until we sort out the moderation glitch, just understand, it ain’t me!

    We do understand and to hell with the moderation glitch! Just rest and shut this down!!!

  307. Anonymous
    03/23/2013 at 7:05 pm | #329

    Syntara :

    Tracey A :
    Syn – We have Smarties here too. Don’t like them tho, too sour for me.

    You have different smarties than us then I think Ours are chocolate with hards shell.. like M&Ms but flatter and a bit larger loads colours…… sour.. just can’t see it.

    Me neither, l love Smarties, Cadbury Flakes and OMG Galaxy chocolate is the best!!! I can’t omit a tendency towards a Frys Turkish delight either – I was just thinking this morning that this chocolate and peanut diet of mine during the trial may not be such a good idea – lol

  308. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:06 pm | #330

    Besides, it’s time for Syn to go to bed!!!

  309. 03/23/2013 at 7:06 pm | #331

    Syntara :
    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?

    Donchais: Several, but they are missing!

    DougIme I think I just read that they were stolen around the time the tires were slashed.

    Oh really… hmmmmm mmmm hmmmmmm that’s food for thought right there

  310. 03/23/2013 at 7:06 pm | #332

    MMD :
    Besides, it’s time for Syn to go to bed!!!

    OMG Here we go!!

  311. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 7:09 pm | #333

    MMD :

    donchais :
    Nah, but until we sort out the moderation glitch, just understand, it ain’t me!

    We do understand and to hell with the moderation glitch! Just rest and shut this down!!!

    And miss the fun…donchais>>> to MMD two goofies…stat!

  312. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 7:11 pm | #334

    Whoops became Anonymous again, hopefully I’ve fixed it :-)

  313. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:12 pm | #335

    Just an observation, but it’s been bugging me. Going back to the ninja story (I know, eye roll), JA told Det. Flores that one of the “ninja’s” went through her purse and saw her address on her “registration”. Her drivers license has been displayed many times and showed her address as a PO Box in Big Sur, CA. She said the “ninja’s” now had her address and would “kill her family” if she ever told.

    Now I gotta ask, who the hell carries their car registration with them while driving a rental car??? I know I don’t. Were the “ninja’s” just gonna hang out in the post office till she collected her mail????

    I know it’s a moot point since she changed her story…just thought it noteworthy because it shows again how she tailored her lies to fit her story. Just sayin’…

  314. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 7:14 pm | #336

    Syntara :
    Syntara :
    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?
    Donchais: Several, but they are missing!
    DougIme I think I just read that they were stolen around the time the tires were slashed.
    Oh really… hmmmmm mmmm hmmmmmm that’s food for thought right there

    First I’ve heard of Travis’ journals going missing – wow- foiled again by the killer queen!

  315. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:15 pm | #337

    Ruh Roh!! Here comes the big can of Wup Ass from MMD to Syntara. “Let’s get ready to RUUUMMBBBLLLE!!!!” rofl

  316. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 7:17 pm | #338

    Tracey A :
    Just an observation, but it’s been bugging me. Going back to the ninja story (I know, eye roll), JA told Det. Flores that one of the “ninja’s” went through her purse and saw her address on her “registration”. Her drivers license has been displayed many times and showed her address as a PO Box in Big Sur, CA. She said the “ninja’s” now had her address and would “kill her family” if she ever told.
    Now I gotta ask, who the hell carries their car registration with them while driving a rental car??? I know I don’t. Were the “ninja’s” just gonna hang out in the post office till she collected her mail????
    I know it’s a moot point since she changed her story…just thought it noteworthy because it shows again how she tailored her lies to fit her story. Just sayin’…

    OMG…LOL

  317. 03/23/2013 at 7:17 pm | #339

    Trace don’t try to analyse her lies… it’ll do your head in seriously. You’ll fill like that camera in the washing machine.

  318. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 7:17 pm | #340

    Chrissie A :

    Syntara :
    Syntara :
    Did he have a journal? If so was it ever found?
    Donchais: Several, but they are missing!
    DougIme I think I just read that they were stolen around the time the tires were slashed.
    Oh really… hmmmmm mmmm hmmmmmm that’s food for thought right there

    First I’ve heard of Travis’ journals going missing – wow- foiled again by the killer queen!

    Yup, and IMHO, Travis recorded his true feelings about her and her bitchy antics…hence she stole them thinking it wouldn’t leak out what a conniving, murderous biatch she is!!!!

  319. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:17 pm | #341

    donchais :
    And miss the fun…donchais>>> to MMD two goofies…stat!

    Consider it done! :-)

  320. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 7:17 pm | #342

    Douglme :

    Tracey A :
    Just an observation, but it’s been bugging me. Going back to the ninja story (I know, eye roll), JA told Det. Flores that one of the “ninja’s” went through her purse and saw her address on her “registration”. Her drivers license has been displayed many times and showed her address as a PO Box in Big Sur, CA. She said the “ninja’s” now had her address and would “kill her family” if she ever told.
    Now I gotta ask, who the hell carries their car registration with them while driving a rental car??? I know I don’t. Were the “ninja’s” just gonna hang out in the post office till she collected her mail????
    I know it’s a moot point since she changed her story…just thought it noteworthy because it shows again how she tailored her lies to fit her story. Just sayin’…

    OMG…LOL

    I appears she is not very good at connecting the dots…

  321. 03/23/2013 at 7:18 pm | #343

    eerrr *feel not fill .. (darn keyboard keep moving the letters around)

  322. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 7:18 pm | #344

    Douglme :

    Douglme :

    Tracey A :
    Just an observation, but it’s been bugging me. Going back to the ninja story (I know, eye roll), JA told Det. Flores that one of the “ninja’s” went through her purse and saw her address on her “registration”. Her drivers license has been displayed many times and showed her address as a PO Box in Big Sur, CA. She said the “ninja’s” now had her address and would “kill her family” if she ever told.
    Now I gotta ask, who the hell carries their car registration with them while driving a rental car??? I know I don’t. Were the “ninja’s” just gonna hang out in the post office till she collected her mail????
    I know it’s a moot point since she changed her story…just thought it noteworthy because it shows again how she tailored her lies to fit her story. Just sayin’…

    OMG…LOL

    I appears she is not very good at connecting the dots…

    Oops, *it appears…

  323. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:19 pm | #345

    MMD – Yep the Smarties are different then. I have a Canadian friend who got me hooked on Coffee Crisp’s. Do they still have those?? I used to be able to get them at a British bakery here, but they’ve since gone out of business. I LOVE those!!

  324. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:21 pm | #346

    Syntara :
    OMG Here we go!!

    Hey I told ya I was gonna keep an eye on you this weekend to see if ya got rested up! It’s now morning there. Besides we want you to be in tip top shape for the DV testiphony next week! After all require your translation skills!

  325. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 7:22 pm | #347

    Syntara :

    eerrr *feel not fill .. (darn keyboard keep moving the letters around)

    Stat! Another two goofies!

  326. 03/23/2013 at 7:22 pm | #348

    Donchais
    Yup, and IMHO, Travis recorded his true feelings about her and her bitchy antics…hence she stole them thinking it wouldn’t leak out what a coniving, murderous biatch she is!!!!

    No doubt. Did she use those to then concoct her story and feed her rage too? Im thinking yes. Every time she says he abused her was a day he said NO! to her about something. That is not coincidence.

  327. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:22 pm | #349

    Oh Syn – Can’t you tell that I’m already “wishy washy”. lmao

  328. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:23 pm | #350

    Tracey – yup still have Coffee Crisps. It’s the Crunchie Bars that are the best though!

  329. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 7:23 pm | #351

    From the Twit:
    @Just_me ‏
    I am NOT a Jodi-phile! I am a Juan-ette!

    After that wonderful tweet I will bid you all adieu fellow Juanettes, maybe off tomorrow too as I really need to get some semblance of order in my home.

    Feel better Donchais ~~~~~virtual hugs sent to all~~~~~~

  330. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:25 pm | #352

    DougIme – Obviously, I have way to much time on my hands if it’s been bugging me that long. LOL

  331. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 7:26 pm | #353

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Yep the Smarties are different then. I have a Canadian friend who got me hooked on Coffee Crisp’s. Do they still have those?? I used to be able to get them at a British bakery here, but they’ve since gone out of business. I LOVE those!!

    Yes we still have Coffee Crisp, Smarties and Crunchie bars (the fruity sour smaller ones are skittles…)

  332. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 7:26 pm | #354

    MSG from katiecoolady/Lady in Court…thinks you guys are a great group…her thanks and mine! :-)

  333. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 7:26 pm | #355

    This is good. And read the comments too!🌻
    Some Damning Juror’s Questions asked to Dr Samuels and his responses

  334. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 7:27 pm | #356

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :

    Syntara :
    I – THESE PHOTOS CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!! Consider yourself warned!! These are courtesy of Chris Stark

    Hi MMD! Truer words have never been spoken – I will not be exposed to that nasty thing again. (And I don’t mean our lovely Travis)

    OMG! I totally agree! I would be mortified if I had to sit in a court room and those were photos of me being shown to everyone in the room much less now being on the intranet.

  335. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:27 pm | #357

    Chrissie – Take care, see ya soon ***waves***. Juan-ettes. LOVE THAT!

  336. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:28 pm | #358

    Tracey A :
    Oh Syn – Can’t you tell that I’m already “wishy washy”. lmao

    Too funny! LOL

  337. 03/23/2013 at 7:28 pm | #359

    DougIme:

    I appears she is not very good at connecting the dots…

    Thankfully that’s a flaw of this personality disorder. Achilles heel if you like to be more accurate. Often because they can’t empathise they can’t connect dots easily unless it’s well thought out before time. ie the panic with the mess in the bathroom and not able to think quickly enough to even begin to cover her tracks.

    It went quickly downhill from there.

  338. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:29 pm | #360

    Chrissie – hugs back ****waves******

  339. 03/23/2013 at 7:30 pm | #361

    Kimmy
    OMG! I totally agree! I would be mortified if I had to sit in a court room and those were photos of me being shown to everyone in the room much less now being on the intranet.

    Yes but does she show one ounce of shame about it?

  340. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:30 pm | #362

    Janeto – You got it! Been handing out a bunch of those lately. Might have to upgrade to Titanium if I don’t get some stuff done soon!

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 7:42 pm | #363

      Hell Tracey a, we will need Cryptonite memberships by the time thi trial ends!!! L!ol

  341. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 7:30 pm | #364

    Kimmy :

    Chrissie A :

    MMD :

    Syntara :
    I – THESE PHOTOS CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!! Consider yourself warned!! These are courtesy of Chris Stark

    Hi MMD! Truer words have never been spoken – I will not be exposed to that nasty thing again. (And I don’t mean our lovely Travis)

    OMG! I totally agree! I would be mortified if I had to sit in a court room and those were photos of me being shown to everyone in the room much less now being on the intranet.

    She has no shame!

  342. Ci Ci’s Circle
    03/23/2013 at 7:31 pm | #365

    We noticed a lot of questions regarding Matt McCartney and his role in all of this. Well if you go back to either Day 1, 2, or 3 of JAs testimony on the stand, this is where Dumbo was walking her through her first boyfriends as well as her abuse at home (BS #1). She started out with the Vampire Hunter (Bobby Juarez), then there was the guy in Costa Rica (Victor Arias), then back with Juarez for a while. Matt (if we remember correctly in her testimony) was a friend of Bobby and he had a girlfriend at the time. JA said that she used to be envious of Matt’s girlfriend because he treated her so well in comparison to the way Bobby treated her (although she swears Bobby was her first and forever true love…ughhh…finger down throat!). She visited Costa Rica Victor one more time before coming back and found that Matt and his girlfriend had broken up. She then moved further North with Matt as a “roommate” first and then later they became intimate (no shit!!). They were working together while living together. In her testimony somehow they both wound up at
    Ventana in Monterey which is where she met up with Daryl Brewer. During her interview with him she worked her mind tricks on the dufus and got the job as a server. Daryl was in Management and after a year stepped down from his management position to become a server at which time JA and Brewer began dating…..(get what happened…Brewer was ga ga horney after JA and literally stepped down so they could date!! FOOL!!). Dating between Management and employees was frowned upon! So after she connected with Brewer for those years they were together she continued to stay in contact with Matt. If you listen to her testimony it’s pretty detailed how she moved from one man to another. Also, when we visited that stupid site Jodi is innocent, in the month of January there are postings from Matt where he talks about how great JA was, and how he saw the marks on her neck and broken finger when it happened (because she showed him and told him….no shit!!). So the other bloggers started getting on his case about why wasn’t he a witness for her because he could prove her story but he responded saying that he had told JA to keep him out of this. He also wrote that he now lived in the Midwest and had a family and his job was very visible in the public eye and he could not risk losing his job for the sake of his family. He also wrote that he had been interviewed by the Defense as well as the Prosecution. We didn’t read much more because the site scared us but he was signed in as MM and identified himself as a previous boyfriend of JA for two years. So we figured he was caught lying about something for her and it appears it was the pedophile letters and abuse he says he saw on her…….which was probably a lie too. Since JM keeps throwing Matt in JA’s face from time to time we’re thinking JM has something on him and he may be compelled to testify by JM to prove another one of her lies. That’s why she said on the stand she didn’t think he was her ally anymore after JM flashed some paperwork at her regarding Matt.

    Whew!!

    sorry to be so long winded….but it’s what we remember from JAs first days of testimony.

  343. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:31 pm | #366

    Juanettes – love it!!!!!

  344. 03/23/2013 at 7:31 pm | #367

    Tracey A :
    Oh Syn – Can’t you tell that I’m already “wishy washy”. lmao

    hahahaha see told ya! now stop it! or I’ll pull a MMD on you and assume that stance

  345. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:34 pm | #368

    Douglme – She has no shame!
    Exactly!!!!

  346. 03/23/2013 at 7:34 pm | #369

    DougIme
    She has no shame!

    Psychopathic trait.

    Only thing they hate is being held accountable or being said no to.

  347. 03/23/2013 at 7:36 pm | #370

    byeeee Chrissie Thank you for the fab links my dear girl. :D

  348. 03/23/2013 at 7:38 pm | #371

    CCC reading your post avidly at the moment thanks :)

  349. 03/23/2013 at 7:40 pm | #372

    janeto :
    Syn- smarties,m&ms’ goofy pills, tin foil hats, (which BTW I need one for my phone barf bags, hineybutts, what else can we goofballs come up with??? Lmao!!

    Endless list no doubt :D

  350. Observer
  351. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:41 pm | #374

    I want a Juanette t-shirt to go with my new tin foil hat!!!

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 7:47 pm | #375

      Roflmao!! NOW I’VE HEARD IT ALL!!!

  352. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 7:41 pm | #376

    Chrissie A :
    From the Twit:
    JodiAriasGUILTY
    Why didn’t Dr. Fog discuss JA’s journal entry where she says she wants to “Kill all that is not serving me”
    http://tinyurl.com/cpj6j3j
    </blockquoteWhaaaat? How did JM not see this? Oh that is eerie!

  353. 03/23/2013 at 7:43 pm | #377

    CCC (although she swears Bobby was her first and forever true love…ughhh…finger down throat!) LOL!

  354. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:43 pm | #378

    CiCi – I doubt that’s from Matt. General consensus here is if you visit that sickening, awful site, you could come out with a nasty case of “Herp Lip” as Chrissie so eloquently put it!!

  355. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:45 pm | #379

    Great memory CiCi! I have problems with yesterday. I had forgotten the extent of her skankness! (I know that’s not a word) God the start of her testiphony was so many weeks ago. Has the time ever flown!

    JM threatened Matt with perjury charges if he came and testified about the letters since he faked them. He might be a surprise rebuttal witness who is going to tell all and finally betray JA but I doubt it!

  356. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:45 pm | #380

    Syntara – RE: Post 366 – Ooooo….I’m so scared. I’m shaking like a chihuahua now!!! rofl

  357. 03/23/2013 at 7:46 pm | #381

    CCC
    She then moved further North with Matt as a “roommate” first and then later they became intimate (no shit!!).

    hahahahaha

  358. 03/23/2013 at 7:47 pm | #382

    hahahahaha Trace

    shoosh you! it Im trying to read CCC’s post!

  359. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:47 pm | #383

    I seriously doubt that Victor Arias ever existed and isn’t it interesting that TA’s middle name is Victor!

  360. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:50 pm | #384

    Tracey A :
    Syntara – RE: Post 366 – Ooooo….I’m so scared. I’m shaking like a chihuahua now!!! rofl

    You should be! I’ve taught Syn the stance thoroughly and she follows through!

  361. 03/23/2013 at 7:50 pm | #385

    CCC ..(get what happened…Brewer was ga ga horney after JA and literally stepped down so they could date!! FOOL!!)

    doh I didnt put that together! I was wondering why the heck would he do that OMG you are so right!

  362. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 7:50 pm | #386

    Tracey A :
    Tracey A hands out membership cards to Janeto and Kimmy/b> “The Messy House Club”
    I’m a card carrying member during this trial.

    Ha ha Tracey! How do I sign up so when I’m talking myself into cleaning house I can say “Oh wait I’m a member and I don’t have to!” :)

  363. Nancy Pennington
    03/23/2013 at 7:51 pm | #387

    Completly ignored the warnings about looking at the photos in question and have now used several of our barf bags. Just a concern though…..since I have never seen my “area” in the way those pics were taken of JA…..Does Hers Look *searching for words here* infected, diseased, and totally disgusting???? I have heard the phrase “bumping uglies” but her “area” brings a new meaning to the phrase. Sorry in advance if this is an offensive comment but the pictures made me do it!!!!!!

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 10:08 pm | #388

      Nancy p. OMG! That was so true & funny!!

  364. 03/23/2013 at 7:51 pm | #389

    Jan re: #381

    what you on about there?

  365. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:53 pm | #390

    Kimmy :

    Tracey A :
    Tracey A hands out membership cards to Janeto and Kimmy/b> “The Messy House Club”
    I’m a card carrying member during this trial.

    Ha ha Tracey! How do I sign up so when I’m talking myself into cleaning house I can say “Oh wait I’m a member and I don’t have to!”

    Yep, or else get a cleaning lady to come in once every week or two like I have!

  366. 03/23/2013 at 7:55 pm | #391

    CCC We didn’t read much more because the site scared us

    *nods head* fully understandable

  367. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 7:55 pm | #392

    Nancy Pennington :

    Completly ignored the warnings about looking at the photos in question and have now used several of our barf bags. Just a concern though…..since I have never seen my “area” in the way those pics were taken of JA…..Does Hers Look *searching for words here* infected, diseased, and totally disgusting???? I have heard the phrase “bumping uglies” but her “area” brings a new meaning to the phrase. Sorry in advance if this is an offensive comment but the pictures made me do it!!!!!!

    Uhhhh, ever see the old movie, ‘Elephant Man’…”I am not an animal, I am a human…”????

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 10:12 pm | #393

      ROFLMAO! Elephant man! Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

  368. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:55 pm | #394

    Nancy Pennington :
    Completly ignored the warnings about looking at the photos in question and have now used several of our barf bags. Just a concern though…..since I have never seen my “area” in the way those pics were taken of JA…..Does Hers Look *searching for words here* infected, diseased, and totally disgusting???? I have heard the phrase “bumping uglies” but her “area” brings a new meaning to the phrase. Sorry in advance if this is an offensive comment but the pictures made me do it!!!!!!

    No, she looks like you could catch something from her plus we talking some serious deformities!!!

  369. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 7:56 pm | #395

    Marilyn N :
    This is good. And read the comments too!🌻
    Some Damning Juror’s Questions asked to Dr Samuels and his responses

    try this –
    http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jurors-dont-seem-to-trust-dr-samuels/#comments

  370. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 7:56 pm | #396

    correction – we’re talking

  371. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 7:57 pm | #397

    Syn – Take your time reading dear! Remember, it helps to sound out the big words. Sheesh! And I grew up in L.A schools!!. That’s very scarwy!! lmao!

  372. 03/23/2013 at 8:00 pm | #398

    CCC Since JM keeps throwing Matt in JA’s face from time to time we’re thinking JM has something on him and he may be compelled to testify by JM to prove another one of her lies.

    Yes!!!! yes it fits beautifully! All fits with those strange personal reel ins she was sending him.

    Thank You little circles of insight! Wonderful stuff.

  373. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:00 pm | #399

    MMD – I know! That’s why I’m really scared of you! lol

  374. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:01 pm | #400

    Tracey A :
    Syn – Take your time reading dear! Remember, it helps to sound out the big words. Sheesh! And I grew up in L.A schools!!. That’s very scary!! lmao!

    She’s tired – it’s way past her bedtime!!!!! hands on hips

  375. Observer
    03/23/2013 at 8:01 pm | #401

    Ci Ci’s Circle Also, when we visited that stupid site Jodi is innocent, in the month of January there are postings from Matt where he talks about how great JA was, and how he saw the marks on her neck and broken finger when it happened (because she showed him and told him….no shit!!).

    Proof of why that wasn’t him. Matt told the prosecution and defense he saw no bruises or broken finger and Jodi tried to get him to lie for her. The defense had him under subpoenae so he couldn’t talk. The defense won’t call him because he knows nothing and would be charged with perjury if he lies for her.

  376. 03/23/2013 at 8:02 pm | #402

    Tracey A :
    Syn – Take your time reading dear! Remember, it helps to sound out the big words. Sheesh! And I grew up in L.A schools!!. That’s very scarwy!! lmao!

    roflmao!!! cheeky biaaaatch! LOL!

  377. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:03 pm | #403

    Nancy Pennington – LMAO! Way to remain a lady when there ain’t anything ladylike about that Skank’s WooHa!

  378. 03/23/2013 at 8:04 pm | #404

    MMD She’s tired – it’s way past her bedtime!!!!! hands on hips

    hahahahahahah tooo freaking funny you!!

  379. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:04 pm | #405

    Tracey A :
    MMD – I know! That’s why I’m really scared of you! lol

    Yeah right! ;-)

  380. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 8:04 pm | #406

    Chrissie A :

    Syntara Why is he Mat Mcartney) so loyal to her? Was he in on it for some twisted reason? What does she have on him? Is he just totally enamored with her he’d cover even this heinous slaughter for her? Surely nobody is that besotted?

    Jodi manipulates men with sex and her innocent little girl act. Bobby, Daryl, Matt and Travis all remained friends with her even after the breakups. Matt had nothing to do with the murder or she would have blamed it on him instead of Travis. Matt was her close friend and saw her as a sister. He believed her lies about Travis and didn’t want her to be put to death so he lied for her.
    Still catching up – I believe he’s married now with a couple of children, could be that they had a secret tryst here and there and she’s holding that over him? (Not everyone will do the donger in the backdoor, then she became butt buds with each of them after the relationships ended?)

    Ha ha just read that Chrissie! I love it “butt buds” I hope while she is in prison she gets Anal tatooed on one arm and Nurmi on the other arm since all this trial has been about is anal this and anal that. Good Lord!

  381. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:04 pm | #407

    Oh Syn! You’re priceless you know that! Here come the tears of laughter again!

  382. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:05 pm | #408

    And MMD whips out the can of WupAss again on Syn! LMAO!!!

  383. Essem
    03/23/2013 at 8:06 pm | #409

    Tracey A :
    Tracey A hands out membership cards to Janeto and Kimmy/b> “The Messy House Club”
    I’m a card carrying member during this trial.

    One for me too please although I do have my Roomba busily doing the vacuuming while I’m following this this morning. Have got RSI on my right thumb scrolling through the posts on my iPad. RE the ribbons, I read on the Justice for Travis FB last night it is only the supporters who have been told not to wear the ribbons. The family are “allowed” to. JA’s mother complained that with all the supporters wearing ribbons might unfairly influence the jury. Seriously? The performances of her and her sister sitting there giggling and being so rude wouldn’t leave an impression on the jury?

  384. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:06 pm | #410

    darlin’. it’s 9 a.m. in OZ and you’ve been up all night. Plus even if you go to bed, you’ll be back here in just a few hours anyway! How are you going to survive next week?

  385. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:08 pm | #411

    Essem :
    <The performances of her and her sister sitting there giggling and being so rude wouldn't leave an impression on the jury?

    Exactly! The jury already knows that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!

  386. Marilyn N
  387. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:11 pm | #413

    Tracey A hands Essem a well earned membership to card to the Messy House Club ‘Cept you only qualify for a Gold membership since you have Roomba going. I can’t be bothered to go turn mine on! HA!

  388. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 8:11 pm | #414

    MMD :

    Syntara :
    Syntara :
    I can’t believe that Dr Strangelove is on his 3 or 4 day of testimony and he needs to
    take documents home to review. Rabbit hole is beckoning!

    Kimmy
    Oh I totally agree with you! I was thinking WTH? Then he was b$%^&ing about something hadn’t been returned to him a 3 ring binder or something. Give me a freaking break. If this guy even remotley has an assistant it has to be Mrs, Suewiggins from the Carole Burnett show!
    Dunno who that is but I reckon I can get a feel for it.

    Obviously you’ve had a deprived life in OZ! So sad

    Syn Google the show. She played a character in a blonde wig, tight skirt and high heels and was an absolute dunce with Tim Conway who played her boss. Now I think about it, Dr Wanker is about as clueless as Tim Conway in this sketch. Ok MMD you know the show but I can’t remember Tims characters name. Help me out here.

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 10:23 pm | #415

      Kimmy- Mr. Tudball!!! Carol burners’ boss! Lol!!!

  389. 03/23/2013 at 8:12 pm | #416

    Kimmy
    since all this trial has been about is anal this and anal that. Good Lord!

    Thats cos all they can do is talk out of their arse.

  390. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:12 pm | #417

    Kimmy :
    I love it “butt buds” I hope while she is in prison she gets Anal tatooed on one arm and Nurmi on the other arm since all this trial has been about is anal this and anal that.

    Love it!!!! It would totally suit her skankness!

  391. 03/23/2013 at 8:14 pm | #418

    Marilyn
    Matters not if it was him or not. Why? because the important thing is the family part and I believe that can be corroborated. The rest is of no consequence to CCC’s train of thought.

  392. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:16 pm | #419

    Well JA, the skank, loves her anal and Wurmi loves his pedophiles, sex offenders, abusers, etc.!

    Syn – That’s cos all they can do is talk out of their arse. Also true!

  393. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:16 pm | #420

    Essem – Completely agree on the blue ribbon comment. I think they are being allowed to wear them but the had to take the picture buttons off. And the mother and sister giggling…disgusting. Can’t remember who posted the parody of Nancy Grace (the one with the fake hair and giant barrette) but in the that “she” says “When you shake the whore tree, you can’t expect a bunch of angels to fall out”. Not saying JA’s mom is a Ho, just seems more fitting considering her Skank of a daughter.

  394. Essem
    03/23/2013 at 8:17 pm | #421

    Tracey A :
    Tracey A hands Essem a well earned membership to card to the Messy House Club ‘Cept you only qualify for a Gold membership since you have Roomba going. I can’t be
    bothered to go turn mine on! HA!

    Thanks Tracey, greatest invention but doesn’t do anything else so I need the membership card. It’s 10.45am in the Great Southern Land and notwithstanding my Gold Membership really must put on a load of washing. Now where’s my camera?

  395. 03/23/2013 at 8:18 pm | #422

    Kimmy
    Syn Google the show. She played a character in a blonde wig, tight skirt and high heels and was an absolute dunce with Tim Conway who played her boss. Now I think about it, Dr Wanker is about as clueless as Tim Conway in this sketch. Ok MMD you know the show but I can’t remember Tims characters name. Help me out here.

    I shall, I shall definitely do this :)

    but first I must go get zzzzs as it’s that time for me nearly 8:30am.

    Happy MMD??? :P

  396. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:19 pm | #423

    Kimmy: RE Post #404 – That is positively hilarious!!!

  397. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:20 pm | #424

    Kimmy :
    <

    <Syn Google the show. She played a character in a blonde wig, tight skirt and high heels and was an absolute dunce with Tim Conway who played her boss. Now I think about it, Dr Wanker is about as clueless as Tim Conway in this sketch. Ok MMD you know the show but I can’t remember Tims characters name. Help me out here.

    Mr Tumball

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 10:30 pm | #425

      Mr. Tudball & Mrs. Wiggins!!! Tim Conway & carol Burnett

  398. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 8:21 pm | #426

    Chrissie A :
    From the Twit:
    @Just_me ‏
    I am NOT a Jodi-phile! I am a Juan-ette!
    After that wonderful tweet I will bid you all adieu fellow Juanettes, maybe off tomorrow too as I really need to get some semblance of order in my home.
    Feel better Donchais ~~~~~virtual hugs sent to all~~~~~~

    Nite Chrissie! Yup I had to steer clear and get house chores done too, I’m so glad I spoke up and joined this forum cuz I’m totally a Juanette! Love that Juan baby. I know MMD he is yours just saying. :)

  399. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:21 pm | #427

    sorry – mean’t Tudball!

  400. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:22 pm | #428

    Syntara – Good Girl! Get refreshed Sweetie! Looking forward to seeing you again soon! ****waves****

  401. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:23 pm | #429

    Happy Syn :-) Hope you have a better sleep tonight! See ya tomorrow *waves and hugs***

  402. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:24 pm | #430

    Glad ya joined too Kimmy and glad you realize he’s mine! ;-)

  403. 03/23/2013 at 8:25 pm | #431

    Trace Not saying JA’s mom is a Ho

    Then I will.. mommy dearest is a ho.

    I can say it cos its not our vernacular.

  404. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:25 pm | #432

    MMD – You just keep right on thinking that! lol!

  405. 03/23/2013 at 8:26 pm | #433

    byeeeeee everyone you are all heaps of fun and so informative.

    See you all soon.

    *waves and sends hugs*

  406. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:26 pm | #434

    Syntara – Glad you said it! Be sure to snuggle up nice and close to your blow up Juan doll!

  407. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:26 pm | #435

    Hey Tracey – it’s my delusion after all ;-)

  408. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:28 pm | #436

    I have 3 dogs that haven’t done a damn thing today except sleep. They’ve hardly touched their food. Betcha the minute I try and go to sleep they’ll be raring to go :-(

  409. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:28 pm | #437

    MMD – Most of us are thinking the same thing anyways!! ;)

  410. 03/23/2013 at 8:29 pm | #438

    MMD :
    Glad ya joined too Kimmy and glad you realize he’s mine!

    see there’s that delusion again. Seriously get that checked by Dr Dodgy it’s chronic.

  411. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:30 pm | #439

    It doesn’t matter whose vernacular it is – Mama is a ho and so is her twin – twin hos, 2 for the price of 1!

  412. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 8:31 pm | #440

    Syntara :
    Kimmy
    OMG! I totally agree! I would be mortified if I had to sit in a court room and those were photos of me being shown to everyone in the room much less now being on the intranet.
    Yes but does she show one ounce of shame about it?

    I agree Syn she isn’t normal but normal person would be mortified. The girl is sick sick sick and probably languishing in the fact that so many men have seen them.

  413. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:31 pm | #441

    Syn darlin’ – you’re the one that diagnosed my delusion after all – now go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  414. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 8:33 pm | #442

    MMD :

    It doesn’t matter whose vernacular it is – Mama is a ho and so is her twin – twin hos, 2 for the price of 1!

    Ohhhh, so that would make the Drake’s favorite snack…HoHo’s, Bwaaahhhaaaa.

    Nite folks, be safe, it’s a jungle out there!

  415. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:33 pm | #443

    MMD – I have 2 dogs that have done nothing but sleep all day. They are eating though. My golden retriever is an old guy with arthritis so “walkies” is a bit painful. My younger pound puppy has been playing tennis ball with (I’ll use Syn’s word since I like it so much) de facto “hubby” so he’s getting exercise.

  416. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:39 pm | #444

    Here is a link to the prosecution’s psychologist. She hasn’t been in practice very long!

    http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/name/Janeen_DeMarte_PhD_Phoenix_Arizona_136525

  417. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:40 pm | #445

    Donchais – Nite nite ****waves**** and try those tennis balls. It really works I tell ya!

  418. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:40 pm | #446

    LOL donchais!

  419. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:41 pm | #447

    You performing all week??????

  420. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 8:42 pm | #448

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    We noticed a lot of questions regarding Matt McCartney and his role in all of this. Well if you go back to either Day 1, 2, or 3 of JAs testimony on the stand, this is where Dumbo was walking her through her first boyfriends as well as her abuse at home (BS #1). She started out with the Vampire Hunter (Bobby Juarez), then there was the guy in Costa Rica (Victor Arias), then back with Juarez for a while. Matt (if we remember correctly in her testimony) was a friend of Bobby and he had a girlfriend at the time. JA said that she used to be envious of Matt’s girlfriend because he treated her so well in comparison to the way Bobby treated her (although she swears Bobby was her first and forever true love…ughhh…finger down throat!). She visited Costa Rica Victor one more time before coming back and found that Matt and his girlfriend had broken up. She then moved further North with Matt as a “roommate” first and then later they became intimate (no shit!!). They were working together while living together. In her testimony somehow they both wound up at
    Ventana in Monterey which is where she met up with Daryl Brewer. During her interview with him she worked her mind tricks on the dufus and got the job as a server. Daryl was in Management and after a year stepped down from his management position to become a server at which time JA and Brewer began dating…..(get what happened…Brewer was ga ga horney after JA and literally stepped down so they could date!! FOOL!!). Dating between Management and employees was frowned upon! So after she connected with Brewer for those years they were together she continued to stay in contact with Matt. If you listen to her testimony it’s pretty detailed how she moved from one man to another. Also, when we visited that stupid site Jodi is innocent, in the month of January there are postings from Matt where he talks about how great JA was, and how he saw the marks on her neck and broken finger when it happened (because she showed him and told him….no shit!!). So the other bloggers started getting on his case about why wasn’t he a witness for her because he could prove her story but he responded saying that he had told JA to keep him out of this. He also wrote that he now lived in the Midwest and had a family and his job was very visible in the public eye and he could not risk losing his job for the sake of his family. He also wrote that he had been interviewed by the Defense as well as the Prosecution. We didn’t read much more because the site scared us but he was signed in as MM and identified himself as a previous boyfriend of JA for two years. So we figured he was caught lying about something for her and it appears it was the pedophile letters and abuse he says he saw on her…….which was probably a lie too. Since JM keeps throwing Matt in JA’s face from time to time we’re thinking JM has something on him and he may be compelled to testify by JM to prove another one of her lies. That’s why she said on the stand she didn’t think he was her ally anymore after JM flashed some paperwork at her regarding Matt.
    Whew!!
    sorry to be so long winded….but it’s what we remember from JAs first days of testimony.

    Wow! That is intersting ladies! Nice job and I agree that MM is going to be JM’s trumph card in this whole trial and BAM! Guilty home run! Can I get a Holla? :)

  421. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:43 pm | #449

    MMD – While I agree she hasn’t been in practice very long, at least she’s not stuck in the 70′s like Dr. Do Little.

  422. donchais
    03/23/2013 at 8:43 pm | #450

    MMD :

    You performing all week??????

    For tips and vodka, lol!

  423. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:44 pm | #451

    Kimmy – Holla!!!

  424. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 8:55 pm | #452

    MMD :

    Tracey A :
    Syn – Take your time reading dear! Remember, it helps to sound out the big words. Sheesh! And I grew up in L.A schools!!. That’s very scary!! lmao!

    She’s tired – it’s way past her bedtime!!!!! hands on hips

    Oh waaaaay past her bed time! She’s been at it for hours and gonna crash and burn soon. Lord I hope she has a house cleaner. Syn we need you on Monday…. go to sleep!

  425. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:55 pm | #453

    Tracey A :
    MMD – While I agree she hasn’t been in practice very long, at least she’s not stuck in the 70′s like Dr. Do Little.

    Very true! She can still remember her education and is up to date with all the latest data!

  426. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:56 pm | #454

    Plus I doubt JM would call her unless she was excellent!

  427. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 8:59 pm | #455

    MMD :

    Kimmy :

    <

    <Syn Google the show. She played a character in a blonde wig, tight skirt and high heels and was an absolute dunce with Tim Conway who played her boss. Now I think about it, Dr Wanker is about as clueless as Tim Conway in this sketch. Ok MMD you know the show but I can’t remember Tims characters name. Help me out here.

    Mr Tumball

  428. MMD
    03/23/2013 at 8:59 pm | #456

    Well folks, this Juanette needs to go to sleep. Hopefully Cheney Mason will stay out of my dreams tonight. Talk to you all tomorrow!

    Donchais, I hope you’re sciatica is better tomorrow so keep up with the vodka! Thanks for everything you do, Will send vodka and tips ;-)

    **********hugs and waves to everyone**********

  429. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 8:59 pm | #457

    MMD – I, too, doubt that JM would use someone that wasn’t the Bomb like he is.

  430. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 9:02 pm | #458

    MMD – Sleep well my friend! I hear wearing garlic around your neck will keep Cheney Mason away. Take care fellow Juanette! *********waving nite nite***********

    I’m gonna slip away for a bit as well. Wouldn’t ya know it, I’m outta vodka! Dang it! I hate it when that happens.

  431. 03/23/2013 at 9:05 pm | #459

    Hey,

    Sometime can someone plse give me the name of the building or court house or whatever it is Juan baby works in.

    I want to ring and leave a msg for him. And I havent the first idea how to get the relevant number.

    Thanks to anyone who can help me with finding how to contact him on. All I know is Arizona and that ain’t gonna cut it.

    Syn

  432. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 9:08 pm | #460

    MMD :

    Kimmy :
    I love it “butt buds” I hope while she is in prison she gets Anal tatooed on one arm and Nurmi on the other arm since all this trial has been about is anal this and anal that.

    Love it!!!! It would totally suit her skankness!

    Tee hee! I LOVE THIS SITE! HELL YEAH! Oh sorry i will settle back down, oops my bad.

  433. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 9:36 pm | #461

    MMD :

    Kimmy :
    I love it “butt buds” I hope while she is in prison she gets Anal tatooed on one arm and Nurmi on the other arm since all this trial has been about is anal this and anal that.

    Love it!!!! It would totally suit her skankness!

    Hell yeah and I think FEDERAL let me say it again FEDERAL PRISION will be different from where she has been. Oh there won’t be Jailhouse American Idoll anymore missy! Grrr she pisses me off!.

  434. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 9:38 pm | #462

    Syn – What are you doing up??? Don’t make me tell MMD!!! I know it’s the Maricopa County Courthouse. Let me look so more….

  435. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 9:39 pm | #463

    MMD :

    Kimmy :
    <

    <Syn Google the show. She played a character in a blonde wig, tight skirt and high heels and was an absolute dunce with Tim Conway who played her boss. Now I think about it, Dr Wanker is about as clueless as Tim Conway in this sketch. Ok MMD you know the show but I can’t remember Tims characters name. Help me out here.

    Mr Tumball

    Mr. Tudball

  436. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 9:42 pm | #464

    SYN

    Sometime can someone plse give me the name of the building or court house or whatever it is Juan baby works in.

    Juan M Martinez
    Deputy County Attorney
    301 West Jefferson, 4th Floor
    Phoenix, AZ 85003
    (602) 506-5780

    Just passing by, I’m off now for real lol!!

  437. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 9:46 pm | #465

    Damn Chrissie! Ya beat me to it! Good job!

  438. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 9:50 pm | #466

    Kimmy – You fit right in here!!! No need to tone it down. We’re all crazy here!!! Glad ya found us.

  439. Chrissie A
    03/23/2013 at 9:51 pm | #467

    Tracey
    Shhhhh…
    Don’t tell MMD that I have an “in” with him, and passed said info onto Syn.
    ~~~~~hugs~~~~~~

  440. Douglme
    03/23/2013 at 9:58 pm | #468

    Tracey A :
    Syn – What are you doing up??? Don’t make me tell MMD!!! I know it’s the Maricopa County Courthouse. Let me look so more….

    Syntara :

    Hey,
    Sometime can someone plse give me the name of the building or court house or whatever it is Juan baby works in.
    I want to ring and leave a msg for him. And I havent the first idea how to get the relevant number.
    Thanks to anyone who can help me with finding how to contact him on. All I know is Arizona and that ain’t gonna cut it.
    Syn

    Juan M Martinez, Deputy County Attorney
    301 West Jefferson, 4th Floor
    Phoenix, AZ 85003 (602) 506-5780 for his court file documents

  441. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 9:59 pm | #469

    MMD :

    Kimmy :
    <

    <Syn Google the show. She played a character in a blonde wig, tight skirt and high heels and was an absolute dunce with Tim Conway who played her boss. Now I think about it, Dr Wanker is about as clueless as Tim Conway in this sketch. Ok MMD you know the show but I can’t remember Tims characters name. Help me out here.

    Mr Tumball

    BAM! You are spot on myfriend. Okay you are way better at posting stuff. Do you think you could find a link for Syn? She will laugh her asre off. I am 45 and remember this shit!

  442. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 10:06 pm | #470

    Chrissie – She will not hear it from me. Mum’s the word Sweetie! {{{{hugs}}}} Back at ya! ;)

  443. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 10:25 pm | #471

    Hey Janeto: Glad you came back. Many have gone to bed so it’s pretty quiet here. Of course, it’s 7:25pm my time so I’m glad I can hang in a while longer.

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 10:35 pm | #472

      @Tracey- its 9:30 here, but had a long day. Worked in yard & started cleaning house.:(

  444. NancyB
    03/23/2013 at 10:28 pm | #473

    donchais :
    For a true perspective, just before his death, he completed a documentary called After The Party (on dvd)…his life was in the toilet, but after his daughter’s murder, he became a
    true victim’s advocate and the man we all came to know and love!

    Never knew about this – he’s one of my favs so thanks!

  445. Anna
  446. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 10:45 pm | #475

    Essem :

    Tracey A :
    Tracey A hands out membership cards to Janeto and Kimmy/b> “The Messy House Club”
    I’m a card carrying member during this trial.

    One for me too please although I do have my Roomba busily doing the vacuuming while I’m following this this morning. Have got RSI on my right thumb scrolling through the posts on my iPad. RE the ribbons, I read on the Justice for Travis FB last night it is only the supporters who have been told not to wear the ribbons. The family are “allowed” to. JA’s mother complained that with all the supporters wearing ribbons might unfairly influence the jury. Seriously? The performances of her and her sister sitting there giggling and being so rude wouldn’t leave an impression on the jury?

    OVAY I wished I had a Roomba but I have 2 cats that would go into GI Joe mode and dismantle that thing before I got home from work.Seriously between the the two were talking Sargent and Private. Mastert minds. It’s scary!

  447. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 10:49 pm | #476

    Oh and I forgot to tell you all (got too caught up in all the hilarity that ensued today), last night I got “a life” and went out to dinner in Pasadena to celebrate a friends b-day. His wife and I (she follows this trial too) pretty much talked nothing but trial. She’s as obsessed as all of us.

    But here’s the kicker…imagine my surprise to find out the restaurant was right down the street from the Arco gas station where the infamous gas cans were filled up. Just for laughs, we got the “menfolk” to drive us through the Starbucks parking lot in search of those hoodlum “skaters” that have nothing better to do then turn JA’s license plate upside down. Now I know this will come as “shock” to all of you but we didn’t see hide not hair of any such “skaters”. Could that be because JA, perhaps, told another lie and they never existed???? No way!! Surely that can’t be possible??? Just sayin’…if JA told me the sky was blue, I’d have to go outside to verify.

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 10:55 pm | #477

      Tracey. How weird! Was the Starbucks in a “bad area” like she said too!! You know …hoodlum area? Lmao!!!

  448. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 10:51 pm | #478

    Janeto – Don’t make me revoke your membership card to Messy House Club! LOL! Good for you. I actually got some stuff done too. Shhhhh, don’t tell anyone.

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 10:58 pm | #479

      Tracey my lips r sealed!! :) lol!

  449. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 10:55 pm | #480

    Anna: That’s hilarious!! Did you just post that or did I miss it from earlier???

    I think that might actually by Syntara! lmao!

  450. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 10:55 pm | #481

    * be Syntara

  451. Marilyn N
    03/23/2013 at 10:56 pm | #482

    Kimmy :

    MMD :

    Kimmy :
    <

    <Syn Google the show. She played a character in a blonde wig, tight skirt and high heels and was an absolute dunce with Tim Conway who played her boss. Now I think about it, Dr Wanker is about as clueless as Tim Conway in this sketch. Ok MMD you know the show but I can’t remember Tims characters name. Help me out here.

    Mr Tumball

    BAM! You are spot on myfriend. Okay you are way better at posting stuff. Do you think you could find a link for Syn? She will laugh her asre off. I am 45 and remember this shit!

    see post #451 above

  452. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 10:59 pm | #483

    Janeto – Hell NO! This is part of Hastings Ranch. It is very upscale. The homes above Foothill Blvd are worth millions. JA was just full of crap as usual…I know, shocker!

    • janeto
      03/23/2013 at 11:03 pm | #484

      At least we KNOW no doubt she lied on that for sure! No shock here!!

  453. Kimmy
    03/23/2013 at 11:21 pm | #485

    janeto :
    Kimmy- Mr. Tudball!!! Carol burners’ boss! Lol!!!

    Tee hee just reminded me,
    crap i have laughed my self to tears but is a good thing. I needed it!

  454. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 11:40 pm | #486

    Kimmy – I have to drink lots of water here or I get dehydrated from laughing so hard.

  455. Anna
    03/23/2013 at 11:46 pm | #487

    Tracey A :
    Anna: That’s hilarious!! Did you just post that or did I miss it from earlier???
    I think that might actually by Syntara! lmao!

    Hey Tracey A! I just got that funny thing texted to me and it reminded me of me. And yada yada yada I had to post it here. I’m almost always the off-topic one here. Cheers!

  456. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 11:47 pm | #488

    Anna – No you aren’t! You are right on point. You have brought me to happy tears alot!

  457. Tracey A
    03/23/2013 at 11:54 pm | #489

    We all have to play catch-up because of our different time zones.

  458. Anna
    03/23/2013 at 11:55 pm | #490

    Tracey A – Thank you and cheers! I truly do love the appropriately cathartic humor that we find here. It matters so much in this life.

  459. Anna
    03/23/2013 at 11:59 pm | #491

    I mean think about it, we know nothing really of each other, except that we have hearts for Travis and his family. (And that’s not to mention all the heartfelt posts by people who have suffered in ways that relate, or even don’t, to this case. Don’t take much to make a virtual community, right?! Cheers.

  460. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 12:00 am | #492

    Hey U All! The Canadian here..I believe that M.M.is definitely is possession of some very interesting info,and as for a hold over him surely it can’t be SEX! How pathetic is this guy?
    He may have met up with JA and taken the gun and who knows what else to dispose of.
    This may even come out yet but the way JA spoke of him on the stand I agree it was a clear message to Matt to stay quiet and he heard her I’m sure of that. Has anyone seen him at any time?
    The ribbon removal from the courtroom is awful for the Alexander family. No rights for the victim I gather! TY Juan. We love ya guy!!!! Keep up the good work!!!

  461. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 12:06 am | #493

    Anna – Cheers to you! And you said it best “truly, appropriately cathartic humor” it does matter so much and I have found a wealth of other “crazy” minded peeps here. Especially when you consider the subject this site is all about. Anyone obsessed with this trial needs to come here for comic relief. Cuz it really ain’t funny what we’re dealing with here. That’s why the laughs go such a long way. And we always, ALWAYS, respect the Alexander family. In my mind, we are sitting right next to them in court, holding their hands for support. And it’s a great place to trash the Skank and all her outrageous lies. IMHO…

  462. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 12:14 am | #494

    Tracey A – As someone said, “If we weren’t all crazy, we’d just go insane.” I’m pretty sure eventually there will be a disorder associated with our obsession over this trial. The diagnosis Must include the world ‘Global’! Cheers.

  463. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 12:18 am | #495

    And btw, totally agree with your comments.

  464. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 12:23 am | #496

    Hey there Trial Watcher! I don’t think MM did anything except create the phony messages that JA wanted to introduce in her defense (which was denied thank god). I think he probably has more info too. But Juan shut him down way early with “I will have you up on charges before your feet hit the ground”. Go Juan. Or as we are now known…The Juanettes. Love that! At least I hope he “see’s” through her now. As I understand, he has a family now. Cut JA loose. She’s nothing but a LOSER!

  465. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 12:29 am | #497

    And Trial Watcher…we have another Canuck here…check out MMD when when she checks in. She’ll likely be on soon and she’s a hoot! Thankfully, she’s sleeping now…I hope!!!

  466. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 12:32 am | #498

    sorry should have read ALL of the 435 or so quotes LOL What the hell is it with these b-tch sisters in the courtroom? Imagine being related to that? If anyone seems to be calling the shots it’s Jody! Has the judge forgot who killed whom in this trial? Ribbons are OK BUT god forbid a photo of Travis. they should have been allowed to put the worst crime scene photo in front of Jodi’s face all day
    and every day of the trial. That would be appropriate after all it was self-defense right?? RIGHT!!! Spare me! How much longer before we can all let out an international cheer???
    Hurry up Juan. Please…….

  467. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 12:33 am | #499

    Anna – We pretty much all agree we have “Transient Global Amnesia” after being so well versed in it by Dr. Do Little! What a nut job he turned out to be!!!

  468. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 12:41 am | #500

    Trial Watcher – Trust me…it takes time to read all the comments and get caught up. I dread tomorrow morning (after the night shift takes over, but it’s really morning for them). Syntara, MMD, Chrissie, and others will likely be on a role tomorrow as they get caught up. Not to mention Donchais, our hostess. It’s hell trying to get up to speed. But it’s all for a good cause!!

  469. 03/24/2013 at 12:52 am | #501

    Saw this on Justice for Travis FB a week ago and its hilarious. As I haven’t seen it mentioned on here, thought you would all enjoy it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ4SFBYfzkY

    And the winner of the Justice for Travis Blue Ribbon for the person getting in the last word is ….?

    Hope this link works, cut and paste into browser if it doesn’t take you there direct.

    Thanks to Donchais for the opportunity to be included in discussing this travesty.

    (I’ve never blogged before so I’m not au fait with how to do these things, I’ve just been adding my comments along the way so any tips would be appreciated)

  470. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 1:06 am | #502

    Oh Essem! That was hilarious! Thank you for posting that. I’m leaking happy tears again! Luv that we have a nite shift here! You all are too funny!!!!!!!!!!

    • 03/24/2013 at 1:12 am | #503

      Tracey, glad you are awake, its mid afternoon here in South Australia. Actually fired up the puter to see if I could put in the link (doesn’t work using ipad). I knew you guys would enjoy it.

  471. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 1:10 am | #504

    Essem: I never blogged before either. This was my first site. Seems we have a lot of that going on here! Much appreciated!!!

  472. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 2:10 am | #505

    Essem: You, as well, fit right into loony land here (no offense to the the bird). We just have a ball here. However, peeps here share very personal experiences. It’s a very diverse group here but we pretty much agree on one thing. Sorry for those exceptions…Jodi Arias is Guilty of Felony Premeditated Murder in the 1st degree. Sentence – Death. And many here that don’t ever believe in the DP are willing to “Flip the Switch” “Stick the Needle In Myself”. It’s the case of all cases so far. So we ask…Please don’t make any of us experience a trial worse than this!!!!!!!

    But many of us have come close.

    Sorry for my rant. Just had to vent….

  473. 03/24/2013 at 2:11 am | #506

    Question re Pre Paid Legal Jodi was involved in selling this and this was part of her ruse for going to Utah to attend a PPL conference with Ryan. So why does she not have private legal counsel for herself instead of relying on the Public Defenders Office to provide her defence? Nurmi is being paid in a private capacity because he wanted to leave the case once he left the PDO to set up his own practice but the $250ph is being paid by the State. You’d think she would have had at least “employee cover” whilst working for PPL. And what was the conflict of interest Victoria Washington (first attorney) had that she had to withdraw from the case?

  474. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 2:17 am | #507

    Ok…time for me to say bon nuit (sp), buenos noches, and the Von Trapp one…sorry, the vodka is kicking in…al veed insane (hehe). Luv you guys!!

  475. 03/24/2013 at 2:21 am | #508

    Tracey: I’m with you all 100%. Guilty as charged. Death Penalty is what she deserves and lethal injection is too kind given the terror Travis had to endure.

  476. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 2:23 am | #509

    Wow!!! Essem…great question! Some one smarter than I will answer that one. I look forward to the answer. Again, the vodka talkin,,,,lmao! Nite nite…hic, hic, hic…zzzzzzzzz! {{{{HUGS to all who needs one}}}}}}

  477. Mabes88
    03/24/2013 at 2:29 am | #510

    Has anyone here heard about the Starbucks where she claims the license plate was removed? Seems they don’t and never did have the cement blocks were she spotted the plate leaning against. Someone spoke to an employee and google earthed it to confirm.
    Another lie to check into…

  478. 03/24/2013 at 4:42 am | #511

    Essem Your’re in SA?

  479. 03/24/2013 at 4:44 am | #512

    Great start can’t spell omfg I hate this keyboard when it plays musical key Try you’re doh!

    • 03/24/2013 at 4:52 am | #513

      Hi Syntara, yes I am and happy to see you corrected the spelling, clearly not operator error. Been meaning to ask how do you watch trial live and sit on this blog? Do you ever sleep?😴

  480. 03/24/2013 at 4:54 am | #514

    Syntara, where are you ? I’m thinking WA going by the time you mentioned earlier today.

  481. 03/24/2013 at 5:02 am | #515

    Essem: Ok First regards PPL from what I understand it’s like nutrimetics.. You know direct marketing type set up loosely based on the notorious pyramid schemes but different enough to be legal.

    Second I have sooooooo wondered when the real Gus was on the stand ie Searcy. Did she not have PPL cover and it doesn’t say much for her reputation if those attorneys were what it provided. I was all alone then looking feral and devouring youtube access so had noone to ask.

    Subsequent to finding Donchais it became apparent that no, they are state provide which still leaves someone to answer – why isn’t her defense being covered bt PPL. I’m thinking something to do with the name change so they wiggled out of paying cos it would have gone bankrupt! But thats pure conjecture Im basing it on nothing but things that make you go hmmmm.

    Thirdly, she talked big but was in reality only earning around $40 a month from it. Her initial fantasy of a meteoric rise to ring status quickly crashed and burned.

    I think this is a lot how she guilted Travis initially into allowing her to stay around. He seemed a caring helpful person and I think he genuinely felt sorry for her and tried to get her off the ground in PPL. Hence so many believing much of their contact was for business reasons. He was after all very successful in PPL and only going to be more so.

    Little gold digger she was Travis was the perfect catch but when he rejected her she couldn’t handle it and well the crime scene and the wounds are witness to her level of rage about that.

    • 03/24/2013 at 5:13 am | #516

      Yes I was thinking Amway the old “I’ve got a business proposition for you can I meet with you to discuss”. You don’t make money at entry level. But even Amway give their reps discount on products.

  482. 03/24/2013 at 5:11 am | #517

    Haha re sleep I go into nightshift mode lucky Im a free agent at the moment and having worked nightshifts in labs I just switched to that mode. Yes Perth here. How did you get into this horrendous murder? I saw a 48 hours mystery on it aaaages ago then happened serendipitously to find out about 10 days or so ago that the trial is on.

    • 03/24/2013 at 5:54 am | #518

      Pure chance, I get suggested videos from YouTube and I looked at one of the interviews Jodi did. I then did some Googling and read up a bit more and started watching the trial once it was uploaded on YouTube. I’ve been watching the trial since about day 3. Then I found this blog and started reading and making comments. I did look at the JodiIsInnocent site but quickly realised I wasn’t on the same page as them. I am totally obsessed with this (clearly not an orphan) and am really peeved I can’t watch live feed but I read Donchais’ synopsis on the bus going home from work and then have my iPad whooshing all night as I sleep with email notifications coming through. Friday I woke up to over 300 emails!! Good thing I’ve got an hour’s ride on the bus to work to read them. Nite, see you around

  483. jad
    03/24/2013 at 5:12 am | #519

    Laine, yesterday at # 632 [on the previous page], you posted a link to that Judge Judy video that showed what a disreputable and despicable character that Gus Searcy really is. His wife said she had paid the bills on their property for six months, while receiving NADA for spousal support and child support [during their divorce proceedings]. He is a snake. That poor woman. She must be thanking her lucky stars that she was able to get away from him and that his domineering actions over her and his financial maneuvering and manipulations were no longer enough to keep her tethered to what must have been a horrible relationship.

    Gus Searcy is the guy (sworn to tell the truth before the testimony of Darryl Brewer) who told everyone on the tenth day of testimony that he did not have to get out of bed to make money because, as an Executive Director in the silver level who was a ring-earner, one hundred thousand dollars just rolled in whether he got up or just laid there. Then on cross-examination, his demeanor instantly changed when he had the gall to reprimand the second attorney asking him questions that day, Juan Martinez. Gus Searcy got very upset with the prosecutor, and he sharply instructed him on how to ask questions about the company that made him money, telling the prosecutor that he could call it a circle (when speaking geometry [wtf?] rather than a pyramid), and he would not answer questions as stated. Gus Searcy would constantly correct the prosecutor and was very argumentative in his superiority. Whahh!! Boo Hoo Hoo!! What a narcissistic character.

    If it weren’t for the indictment and conclusiveness with the pendulum of the death penalty, that clown would have gone along nicely with the scheming, conniving bi-atch that is Jodi Arias, a person on the hunt for a man (with a lot of money that could stay in bed with her skanky [Ari]ass) that would support all of her nasty habits. He and Jodi Arias belong together. They could put out an invite on their presentation card — The sociopath and the psychopath, a match made in HELL. Or [after watching that Judge Judy video, wherein his own daughter had to sue the lout to get back her own furniture], was there a mistake in the description — could it be the psychopath and the psychopath??? That will have to be a question for Syntara. I bet she will know which category this narcissist belongs and whether or not malignant is a descriptor that goes before that noun, as describes Jodi Arias — malignant narcissist.

    Gus Searcy did testify that he had the ability to get into people’s heads and find out what is going on with them. This was offered as an explanation in the way he had been the more dominant and had been the one to help Jodi Arias after she had approached him. He said that when he is approached he coaches these underlings on what he needs to know, and that they then have to be the ones to call him and tell him what they are doing. He did not limit his conversations to strictly business because he said he needed to work more at a personal level. Although he only confessed to [a minimum of] one call per week, he was more forthright with Greta Van Susteren when he told her last week that he spoke with Jodi Arias probably three times every week. So, this is the way that Gus Searcy controlled the relationship with a malignant narcissist that was also a psychopath.

    By the time the Trial date rolled around, Gus Searcy said he had been employed with Legal Shield (the new name for Pre-Paid Legal) for ten years. So, in 2007, when he first met Jodi Arias, he would have only been with the company for four [4] years. What had not been established at Trial was the pay structure and position he had at that earlier time. Gus Searcy asserted in his sworn testimony that he was at the top level of the company for almost the entire time that he had been with the organization. However, he also testified he had gone though [5,784] almost six thousand people before he got his first sale. Gus Searcy seemed to enjoy the profit he could make off of each policy that went through his hands and any percentage from his downline that would kick back an amount to him [in the multi-level marketing scheme].

    Gus Searcy was proud of the fact he had been the one rewarded for two municipalities that signed up with Pre-Paid Legal. [The memos that go from one Department at City Hall to another would be in their computer system, and they would be instrumental in showing the manner these municipalities were wooed and exactly who was supposed to get the credit and the continual flow of money generated in this layered profit sharing venture.] These municipalities were both in California — the City of Norwalk and the City of Garden Grove. I have always wondered about his story after he bragged about making so much money from those municipalities. This has been on my mind since listening to that May 10, 2008 advertised sex-tape where Mr. Alexander told Jodi Arias that the months of June and July would be very good for him. They would be so fantastic that he planned to travel to South America for at least one month and spend other time on his life’s goals [like completing his book]. It just makes more sense that the murder of Mr. Alexander is a financial crime, since it is a fact that Jodi Arias is a psychopath. While true that the killing was one of revenge, there seems to have also been a financial motive. This could work if the password of Mr. Alexander’s accounts were known and the newly signed on Pre-Paid Legal clients were attributed to another’s account.

    btw — Since he, himself, was the one responsible for making himself a “charmed” public figure, people can voice their opinions of his character. As much as he would like to make this an issue, this is not violative of his right to privacy as a sovereign. He should instead look at his own actions. This would include misleading the Court and the Jurors when telling a story about Mr. Alexander calling Jodi Arias to ream her out, when she testified that she had gone to Gus Searcy’s trailer where she was the one involved in taking pictures of her arse (on the same day a picture of an erect penis showed up archived on her phone). Jodi Arias portrayed that episode as one where it was Gus Searcy who made the overt invitation to come sit with him a spell in his motor home in Las Vegas [to see what popped up, I imagine]. She said she took him up on his offer, even though she had already accepted a date to be with Mr. Alexander, who was going to celebrate (what she tried to say was an LLC, but had more to do with) publishing his first book. Gus Searcy is the person (in Las Vegas, Nevada) that made up an incredible story about Jodi Arias being so “shook up” over the anger he could clearly hear expressed (by Mr. Alexander in Mesa, Arizona) over a cell phone that was not on speakerphone mode. (He spoke a little more about this incident when talking to Dr. Drew on February 13, 2013, and Jane Velez Mitchell later on in the week.) Gus Searcy is the person that gave a nonworking number to the Court for a putative witness, when he instigated the prosecutorial misconduct charge thrown against Juan Martinez, the prosecutor doing his job to assist the people in removing a psychopath from their midst so that they would not end up butchered like Mr. Alexander.

    What Gus Searcy has done to Mr. Alexander in spreading his filthy gossip, the in flagrante delicto baseless rumour and slimy innuendo, and his disturbing lies about a decent man is slander. This *ssh*l* better think twice before entering the fray with more of his antics to try to silence those speaking the TRUTH. Some have called him a cheap suit. That is not a compliment to suits everywhere, that wouldn’t want that slithery creature anywhere around the fabric. What is more acceptable is that he is an empty suit [to spare the feeling of a suit]. What a LOSER, anyway you spell it! BLECHHH!!!!!!!

  484. 03/24/2013 at 5:21 am | #520

    True true … I reckon the name change thing. The top dogs did it to protect themselves waaaaay to much to pay. Maybe the ‘new’ company had some kind of legal out that the old one didn’t to avoid having to represent her and Gus Slearzy was part payment thereof ie testified for her in a quid pro quo agreement All conjecture rumour and innuendo but I reckon it’s something like that.

  485. 03/24/2013 at 5:42 am | #521

    Chrissie A :
    I’m in moderation sweetie – I’ve been flat out like a lizard drinking

    MMD : Good for you. Did you finally get to sleep?

    MMD flat out like a lizard drinking means she’s been really busy : think lizards tongue. Not sure by your response if you realise that or nto so just to let you know. Gotta look after my Canuck mate and teached her ridgy didge aussie slang.

  486. 03/24/2013 at 5:44 am | #522

    essem so how did you learn about this trial? I dont watch mainstream news it is on there a lot or something?

    • 03/24/2013 at 6:05 am | #523

      I watch the trial uploaded by Croakerqueen123 on YouTube. She uploads all sessions throughout the day so they get up pretty quick. Lots of comments on there too BUT lot of Jodi fans 😡

  487. 03/24/2013 at 5:54 am | #524

    Kristina Randle :
    An analysis of whether or not Jodi Arias Has Low Self-Esteem: http://kristinarandle.com/blog/does-jodi-arias-have-low-self-esteem/

    Great article… but seriously let’s face it. Compare to J Arsius MMD really DOES exhibit signs of low self esteem.

    Kristen… follow up article on covert aggressives would go down well IMHO.

  488. 03/24/2013 at 6:31 am | #525

    Excerpts collated from Dr George K Simon

    Beware the Covert-Aggressive Personality
    By Dr George Simon, PhD

    The covert-aggressive personality employs a potent one-two punch: The covert-aggressive conceals aggressive intent to ensure you never really see what’s coming; and he or she exploits your normal sensitivities, conscientiousness and other vulnerabilities to manipulate you into succumbing.

    Covert-Aggressive Personalities are the archetypal wolves in sheep’s clothing that I introduced in my first book, In Sheep’s Clothing

    These individuals are not openly aggressive in their interpersonal style. In fact, they do their best to keep their aggressive intentions and behaviors carefully masked.

    They can often appear quite charming and amiable, but underneath their civil façade they are just as ruthless as any other aggressive personality. They are devious, underhanded, and subtle in the ways they abuse and exploit others.

    They have usually amassed an arsenal of interpersonal maneuvers and tactics that have enabled them to effectively manipulate and control those in relationships with them. The tactics they use are effective because they simultaneously accomplish two objectives very effectively:

    1) The tactics conceal obvious aggressive intent. When the covert-aggressive is using the tactics, the other person has little objective reason to suspect that he is simply attempting to gain advantage over them.”

    Note: Jody’s ruse of getting Travis to ostensibly have a harmless photo shoot cos she loved his new physique. – ooo I hate her

    2 ) “The tactics covert-aggressive personalities use effectively play on the sensitivity, conscientiousness, and other vulnerabilities of most persons and therefore effectively quash any resistance another person might have to giving-in to the demands of the aggressor. “

    Note: The ruse appeals to his ego … “oh but baby you look so good since you’ve been working out, c’mon let me take a few shots pleeeease – sadly he gives in.

    “So, it’s this one-two punch of the tactics: never really seeing what’s coming, and being vulnerable to succumbing to them, that’s at the heart of why most people get manipulated by them.

  489. jad
    03/24/2013 at 6:38 am | #526

    Syntara — I am trying to catch up with the posts above, but I noticed your confusion with Matt McCartney. So, here is a brief rundown.

    Matt McCartney was a friend of the first boyfriend, who allowed her to move in with him when she walked away from her house in her junior year of high school (telling him she was being abused). Mike Brooks has called this first boyfriend “Suarez” [rather then the real identity], which I believe is a good name for him [as it is only one letter off], since he still has family in the area, and he has had a stay at a mental asylum after trying to commit suicide. She spoke of Matt on the fourteenth day of her testimony. The “Bianca” mentioned is a girl Matt dated after he and Jodi had separated (although Jodi Arias seems to think they were still together, even though he lived elsewhere and had changed employment).

    Matt McCartney was into all forms of religion. I believe that is the connection you are looking for. They both seem to be zealots of some sort, but of what is very strange and confusing. One thing that struck me by some of her language and a constant reference to flirty was a possibility that these two had run with the Children of God, a very strange cult, where the women indoctrinated the men by flirty fishing. The young man that was supposed to take over this group committed suicide in Blythe, in 2005, which is a city about ten or fifteen miles from Ehrenberg (where the first sexual encounter of Jodi Arias and Mr. Alexander was engaged). It is my belief that Jodi Arias was very familiar with this cult, and that Matt McCartney was also. I might be wrong, as there is nothing in the record to support that particular belief. No matter, there is something between these two with some weird religious fanaticism.

    Matt McCartney rejoined Jodi Arias when they went to the Ventana Inn and Spa, [in the October following the tragedy of the World Trade Center event of 9-11, to date the movement], where she met Darryl Brewer, her immediate supervisor. She immediately clung to the one with more going for him (as she had done when she dumped Bobby Suarez for his friend and roommate, Matt). She dated around while dating Darryl Brewer, even though she implied she had this wonderful monogamous relationship with Darryl Brewer. They never lived with each other until they purchased a house together hoping to join the get-rich club when flipping houses. The real estate market tanked, and, within that first year, she was having problems making her mortgage payments, and was soon left with a house in foreclosure.

    It was around that time, in September of 2006, that she met Travis Alexander. When she was forced to move out of the foreclosed property, she moved in with Matt McCartney in 2007, where she lived until after her status as a girlfriend to Mr. Alexander was over, at which time she moved to Mesa (where the good-hearted Mormons unintentionally helped her as Mr. Alexander was trying to break away from her). The rest is history.

  490. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:27 am | #527

    Morning peeps :-) Anyone here?

  491. 03/24/2013 at 7:31 am | #528

    Warning: On iMac it does weird auto corrects so if needed decipher as best you can :P 5 line edit box again so apologies if format errors. grrrr
    ___________

    MMD smh what is smh pose?

    Chrissie It’s such a shame that she did not have the GPS tracking enabled on her rental car especially from Pasedena to AZ!! I think that GPS operation should be a requirement in rental cars from this point on.

    Oh that would have been great could have seen if and where she stopped and threw away the stuff. The gun may have been foisted from the moving car though, if so it’s close to the road.

    MMD STOP THE PRESSES! DSM has just issued a new diagnosis, PTSAT (Post Trauma Stress Arias Trial). Diagnosed early enough, patients can expect a full recovery, albeit a slow recovery. Physicians around the world suggest taking two goofy pills and avoiding all things Arias related for 12 hours. As always, check with your physician for possible side effects. This has been a Public Service announcement!

    Crap! Donchais Is that 2 goofy pills for each side effect? If so I’m going to need a crate and possibly going to OD as a result.

    Obviously you’ve had a deprived life in OZ! So sad

    Hey I never had access to TV until I was 19 and I consider that a blessing!! (wasn’t in Oz remember!)

    Atta girl!!! I find booze, chocolate or heavy duty drugs really help!

    hallelujah sister!!

    Crunchie Bars that are the best though! hmmmmm crunch bars! yummo

    I seriously doubt that Victor Arias ever existed and isn’t it interesting that TA’s middle name is Victor!

    Now that’s just plain weird.

    Janeto We r all nuts I’m afraid!!!!

    Sad but true.

    Donchaise The vodka is, lol!
    … and again I say *bottoms up*
    Seriously though, I do so hope your are feeling better today if not shut us down and rest

    Chrissie Me neither, l love Smarties, Cadbury Flakes I can’t omit a tendency towards a Frys Turkish delight either

    Crunchies and Violet crumbles too, Tim Tams and mint slice, darryl lea bullets… Lindt balls and bunnies, Ferrero Rocher … ok stopping now :P

    I am a Juan-ette!
    I refuse to be a Juanette I’m so much more sophisticated. ;)

    Tracey A Oh Syn – Can’t you tell that I’m already “wishy washy”

    So long as you’re not on spin cycle Trace. :)

    DougIme Yes we still have Coffee Crisp, Smarties and Crunchie bars (the fruity sour smaller ones are skittles…)

    yeah yeah skitties are sour me no laiks em.

  492. 03/24/2013 at 7:32 am | #529

    MMD I am… I’m going through posts and replying.. how is ya daaahlin’?

  493. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:34 am | #530

    Was just deleting all the post conf. from webmail however but I did see that Chrissie has an in with Juan Baby and told you

  494. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:35 am | #531

    well darlin – I could have given you that number and address yesterday if only you had asked ;-)

  495. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:36 am | #532

    How did ya sleep? I feel that I tossed at least from here to AZ and back and it’s snowing out to beat the band.

  496. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:37 am | #533

    I swear we are all going to have to go through trial rehab once this darn thing is over with cause I’m sure Dr. Quack will have numerous names for our collective disorder LOL

  497. 03/24/2013 at 7:38 am | #534

    jad fabulous stuff thank you so much.

  498. 03/24/2013 at 7:41 am | #535

    MMD Im only on round 318 at the moment. so i’ve a bit to go yet just posted a first installment and now reading jad’s fascinating post re Matt

  499. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:41 am | #536

    Syn – smh means shaking my head ;-)

  500. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:46 am | #537

    Syn – I see you were back up – did you sleep at all??????????????????

  501. 03/24/2013 at 7:49 am | #538

    MMD

    smh Yes I slept got mega sleep actually although still the hard drive in my head is sorting info I wake up to it sometimes it must glitch out and need a reboot.

  502. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:50 am | #539

    Chrissie A :
    Tracey
    Shhhhh…
    Don’t tell MMD that I have an “in” with him, and passed said info onto Syn.
    ~~~~~hugs~~~~~~

    saw that darlin’ – so much for you peeps watching my back :-( LOL

  503. donchais
    03/24/2013 at 7:54 am | #540

    Looks like it’s almost time for a new thread! Coming soon…

  504. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:55 am | #541

    Isn’t it so bloody frustrating????????? I truly have not had a good night’s sleep since this trial started. Plus I had a very busy bed as well. One kid wanting up – who only has very limited bed priviledges and other up for a drink, needs to be lifted back up (getting old) back down to pee (love puppy pads) up and down up and down and heaven help me if I drift off to sleep for a sec because then I get a very sharp bark like – hello, I need back up!!! After all, she only allows me to “use a very small portion of HER bed” ! LOL But that’s ok cause at least she’s still with me (knock on wood)

  505. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:57 am | #542

    donchais :
    Looks like it’s almost time for a new thread! Coming soon…

    Donchais – morning!!!! How is your sciatica? Did the Alleve with vodka chaser help and were you able to sleep????????????

    • donchais
      03/24/2013 at 7:59 am | #543

      MMD Mornin! So far so good, thanks.

  506. 03/24/2013 at 8:01 am | #544

    jad Gus Searcy is the guy (sworn to tell the truth before the testimony of Darryl Brewer) who told everyone on the tenth day of testimony that he did not have to get out of bed to make money because, as an Executive Director in the silver level who was a ring-earner, one hundred thousand dollars just rolled in whether he got up or just laid there. Then on cross-examination, his demeanor instantly changed when he had the gall to reprimand the second attorney asking him questions that day, Juan Martinez. Gus Searcy got very upset with the prosecutor, and he sharply instructed him on how to ask questions about the company that made him money, telling the prosecutor that he could call it a circle (when speaking geometry [wtf?] rather than a pyramid), and he would not answer questions as stated. Gus Searcy would constantly correct the prosecutor and was very argumentative in his superiority. Whahh!! Boo Hoo Hoo!! What a narcissistic character.

    jad not to put too fine a point on it but that Searcy is the living personification of the sleazy salesman. That coupled with his smug aren’t I great attitude literally makes me nauseas. I was not part of this blog at that time but I would have noted all that you have regarding his testimony had I been. I remember it clearly. Sometimes I couldn’t even bear to look at him and was relieved when the camera panned off him.

    He has what we colloquially term in Oz as ‘small man’s disease’. Someone who has felt inferior all their lives, then suddenly finds they are good at something and over compensates to make up for past victimisations.eg bullying.

    Probably not a clear explanation but believe me he has it. I’m sure there would be a psychological term for it but at the moment it evades me. Apart from saying inferiority complex.

  507. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:04 am | #545

    Donchais – did you ever have this amount of comments for any of the other trials that you have covered? Needless to say, I opened this before I even got up and I’m astounded by how many comments there have been since last weekend. I thought it had calmed down a bit after JA testiphoned and we weren’t quite as worked up. Guess I was wrong!!! So truly thankful that you provide this public service. You are really getting brownie points from God!!!

  508. 03/24/2013 at 8:05 am | #546

    Good Morning illustrious leader, I am very happy to hear so far you are doing well. Excellent news and much relief. :)

  509. donchais
    03/24/2013 at 8:06 am | #547

    Time to jump to a new thread. You may continue to read here, but comments need to go to the new thread!

    thanks

    https://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/03/24/jodi-arias-murder-trial-day-thirty-six-discussion-continues-2/

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