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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty-Six, Discussion Continues, 2

03/24/2013

Please continue your comments here.

Thanks,

donchais!

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  1. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:06 am

    MMD :
    Donchais – did you ever have this amount of comments for any of the other trials that you have covered? Needless to say, I opened this before I even got up and I’m astounded by how many comments there have been since last weekend. I thought it had calmed down a bit after JA testiphoned and we weren’t quite as worked up. Guess I was wrong!!! So truly thankful that you provide this public service. You are really getting brownie points from God!!!

  2. donchais
    03/24/2013 at 8:09 am

    Just a reminder, every dollar helps!

    Paypal address: justice4travisalexander@gmail.com

    Direct mail: Samantha Alexander
    PO Box 130023
    Carlsbad, CA 92013

    Make checks out to : Samantha Alexander

  3. donchais
    03/24/2013 at 8:10 am

    MMD :

    MMD :
    Donchais – did you ever have this amount of comments for any of the other trials that you have covered? Needless to say, I opened this before I even got up and I’m astounded by how many comments there have been since last weekend. I thought it had calmed down a bit after JA testiphoned and we weren’t quite as worked up. Guess I was wrong!!! So truly thankful that you provide this public service. You are really getting brownie points from God!!!

    This one has been unreal…the only thing close was CA.

  4. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:14 am

    Donchais – thanks for reposting that info. They are truly a class act family, especially through adversity, and hopefully with the amount of support they are receiving from around the world, will continue to be able to continue attending court.

    I know that every little bit helps and it’s a reminder to everyone to donate again, even if it is a small amount cause it all adds up!

    • donchais
      03/24/2013 at 8:19 am

      MMD No one ever thought Nurmi and Willmott would drag this out so long. These kids have been out of work so long, but as the prosecution says, it’s imperative that they have a presence in court.

  5. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:17 am

    Tracey A :
    Chrissie – She will not hear it from me. Mum’s the word Sweetie! {{{{hugs}}}} Back at ya!

    Ah ha! Caught in the act!!!! So much for my peeps having my back 😉

  6. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:23 am

    Tracey – Glad to hear you went out and got a life!!!! I would also go out and check the sky if JA said it was blue! Pathetic excuse for a human which is why she needs to stop breathing!!!!!

  7. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:25 am

    Donchais – I really hope that they have supportive bosses or did they quit their jobs to attend? And I agree it is imperative that they attend plus it is the last thing that they can do for Travis!!! That fact was drilled into my head by our beloved Dominick Dunne.

  8. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:27 am

    I’m just sorry that their grandmother did not live to see JA convicted although on the other hand, I’m glad that she didn’t have to listen to all the garbage being spewed.

  9. 03/24/2013 at 8:30 am

    MMD Re link To Janeen DeMarte (Juan Baby’s psychologist)

    oooo oooo ooooooooooo I like the sound of this Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, and have self-awareness through emotional experiences. This could get interesting.

    Issues:
    Anger Management
    Behavioral Issues
    Depression
    Domestic Violence
    Learning Disabilities
    Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
    Parenting
    Relationship Issues
    Self-Harming
    Sexual Addiction
    Teen Violence
    Antisocial Personality
    Borderline Personality
    Domestic Abuse
    Eating Disorders
    Narcissistic Personality
    Oppositional Defiance
    Peer Relationships
    Self Esteem
    Sexual Abuse
    Suicidal Ideation

    Bugger as usual not into psychopaths and references borderline …. but well hey, well… bugger! Oh well darn it. Guess she has to conform.

    Mental Health:
    Bipolar Disorder
    Psychosis
    Mood Disorders
    Thinking Disorders

    But here’s the real kicker!!!!

    Specialties
    Testing and Evaluation
    Personality Disorders
    Trauma and PTSD

  10. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:34 am

    Tracey A :
    Anna – Cheers to you! And you said it best “truly, appropriately cathartic humor” it does matter so much and I have found a wealth of other “crazy” minded peeps here. Especially when you consider the subject this site is all about. Anyone obsessed with this trial needs to come here for comic relief. Cuz it really ain’t funny what we’re dealing with here. That’s why the laughs go such a long way. And we always, ALWAYS, respect the Alexander family. In my mind, we are sitting right next to them in court, holding their hands for support. And it’s a great place to trash the Skank and all her outrageous lies. IMHO…

    I think that both of you have pretty much summed up how I feel! We need the humour and yet we have so much respect and support for the Alexander family!!

  11. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:36 am

    Syn – yeah I saw that yesterday. She is going to be soooooo up to date with everything and ya know that JM is not gonna use anyone unless they are super good!!!!!!!!

  12. donchais
    03/24/2013 at 8:50 am

    MMD :

    Donchais – I really hope that they have supportive bosses or did they quit their jobs to attend? And I agree it is imperative that they attend plus it is the last thing that they can do for Travis!!! That fact was drilled into my head by our beloved Dominick Dunne.

    One of them is beginning to lose vacation time, but I believe employees are trying to donater their time.

  13. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:51 am

    Essem :
    Question re Pre Paid Legal Jodi was involved in selling this and this was part of her ruse for going to Utah to attend a PPL conference with Ryan. So why does she not have private legal counsel for herself instead of relying on the Public Defenders Office to provide her defence? Nurmi is being paid in a private capacity because he wanted to leave the case once he left the PDO to set up his own practice but the $250ph is being paid by the State. You’d think she would have had at least “employee cover” whilst working for PPL. And what was the conflict of interest Victoria Washington (first attorney) had that she had to withdraw from the case?

    Excellent question Essem! I don’t think that JA was really a “producer” or doing much with Pre-paid Legal. Plus I think you are basically self employed when you work there, kinda like Avon, Amway, etc. Even if you have a membership, it really is a scam or pyramid operation, imho, and doesn’t provide you much of anything, especially not real benefits for employees. You are really better off with Legal Aid or something like that.

    As for Victoria Washington – dunno.

  14. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 9:00 am

    Donchais – oh that is wonderful but it sure doesn’t pay the bills living in one place but camped out in Mesa. I imagine that TA’s LDS Ward members are helping as well.

    It would look incredibly strange to everyone, especially the jury if all of a sudden one day they weren’t there. Family needs to come first or else ya live with the regrets for the rest of your life. I know that I packed up and moved halfway across the country because of my Mum’s health and even though I gave up a lot to come back to the Maritimes, I feel like I got a bonus 4 years with her. Being an “only” that was so important and I’ve never regretted my decision even though I’m not particularly happy here where I live.

  15. 03/24/2013 at 9:07 am

    Essem
    Thanks Tracey, greatest invention but doesn’t do anything else so I need the membership card. It’s 10.45am in the Great Southern Land and notwithstanding my Gold Membership really must put on a load of washing.
    Now where’s my camera?

    roll! Touche I love it.

    …and I have a roomba for the small upstairs area and a neat for downstairs and I love love love neat, in comparison roomba is a bit Dr dodgyish. Runs seemingly aimlessly all over the place, crashes into things, seems like he bumbles his way through but ends up getting there in the end. Hmmm maybe the last bit we can forget the Dr reference but the rest fits.

    Re: Carol Burnett Vid

    Love his hair lol wtf?? hahahah nice toupee!!

    ROFLMAO I can sooooo see this being Dr Dodgy’s secretary.

    “i’ll time you with the calendar” LOL!!

    lmao @ his suit!!! Now that suit came from Wormi’s tailor.

    hahahah thanks guys!!

    Tracey A

    But here’s the kicker…imagine my surprise to find out the restaurant was right down the street from the Arco gas station where the infamous gas cans were filled up. Just for laughs, we got the “menfolk” to drive us through the Starbucks parking lot in search of those hoodlum “skaters” that have nothing better to do then turn JA’s license plate upside down. Now I know this will come as “shock” to all of you but we didn’t see hide not hair of any such “skaters”

    Poor JA doesn’t she just have the worst luck?

    This is a case of not thinking things through i.e. not having the empathy to do so. Anyone with a brain would know that if a cop sees an inside down plate it’s gonna get them to pull you over. She not being able to think this through properly must have only got as far as… if it’s upside down they won’t be able to read it. DOH!

    We pretty much all agree we have “Transient Global Amnesia” after being so well versed in it by Dr. Do Little! What a nut job he turned out to be!!!

    Well that should increase his stats to what? 50 in 100000 thats a 600% increase at least!

    Anna what’s with that pic and the iPad reference huh??? #474 23 March. huh huh?????

    “If we weren’t all crazy, we’d just go insane.”

    I’ve been trying to remember that quote… aaah thank you I’m a peace bout it now it can stop niggling me.

    Trial Watcher Agreed the ribbon removal is something I don’t even want to think about actually it outrages me so bad.. I just keep telling myself.. it’s over there not here it’s over there not here… to try to cope with the injustice of that kind of decision. (not saying it couldn’t happen here.. just saying it’s not happening here.. thankfully)

    sorry should have read ALL of the 435 or so quotes LOL

    Only an obsessive like me would do that!

    ESSEM ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMFG OMFG OMFG THIS IS GREAT!!!

    I so have to repost that!!

  16. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 9:18 am

    OMG – that is too funny!!

    This may have been posted before, but does anyone know why Daryl Brew-haha testified off camera?

  17. 03/24/2013 at 9:20 am

    Essem: I have watched it over and over and over.. I just love the look on Juan Baby’s face then how he just gives up and swivels around in his chair…. but the whole things is just freakin genius and beyond hilarious!!!

    On that not I am going to get on the tready and laugh my way through the pain thinking of it with tears in my eyes from the laughter.

  18. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 9:22 am

    Grace :
    This may have been posted before, but does anyone know why Daryl Brew-haha testified off camera?

    Nope – but I’m pretty sure that I could identify his hands in a lineup. I did see his face on tv (can’t remember where) but it showed him testifying. Just an average looking joe – nothing unusual.

  19. 03/24/2013 at 9:22 am

    HI Grace how come you disappeared so quick yesterday?

    anyone know why Daryl Brew-haha testified off camera?

    … and I so wondered that to. Another thing I watched before arriving at this fountain of knowledge.

  20. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 9:30 am

    Syn:
    flat out like a lizard drinking means she’s been really busy : think lizards tongue. Not sure by your response if you realise that or nto so just to let you know. Gotta look after my Canuck mate and teached her ridgy didge aussie slang.

    Thank ya darlin’ for the clarification – I figured she had been relaxing and drinking all day! My bad lol

  21. 03/24/2013 at 9:31 am

    well she may well have been busy drinking MMD!

  22. 03/24/2013 at 9:31 am

    bbiab

  23. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 9:34 am

    okie dokie

  24. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 9:38 am

    MMD – he did have nice hands…lol

    Hey Syntara – my eyeballs were falling out of my head yesterday. Did you see my question about 42 Wallaby Way? I should have been grading papers during spring break, but why break a perfectly good slacker habit? “Sorry guys, the dog ate your homework.”

    I was soooo pissed off when Gidget showed Dr. Cowardly Lion the text msgs from TA (which I don’t think helped the DT anyway) and how they “proved” how abusive TA was. What a load of crap.

  25. laurel
    03/24/2013 at 9:42 am

    Loved the video. Hilarious.

    However, watching this thing, I just wished her attorney would have shut up. So annoying how he drags out Everything.

    I just wanted to say that Darrell Brewer (sp?) Didn’t want to appear on camera because hehas a young son 10 or 12 y.o. He didn’t want his son to see him testify on tv news.

    Anyway, that’s what I remembered hearing somewhere along the way.

    Just hope the jury gets it right for this one.

  26. Jo
    03/24/2013 at 9:56 am

    Syntara….sorry, starting the morning off fresh and did not go back to where the comments left off with yesterday’s postings so I don’t know if that video was from someone else or you ….if you reposted, so glad you did and it is a good thing I put my coffee down before I watched it or it would be all over my monitor. I have already played it 5 times and still laughing. Now if someone could do the same for Dr. Dunnonothing, that would really make my day.

  27. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 10:30 am

    ESSEM: Great video.Thank you for my first big laugh of the day! Nice way to start off.

    Syntara: You asked “Anna what’s with that pic and the iPad reference huh??? #474 23 March. huh huh?????”
    I just thought it was funny. I think it’s more about the vodka. 🙂

    Anyway, I’m re-posting this link in case anyone missed it: http://www.eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

  28. 03/24/2013 at 10:31 am

    Grace question about 42 Wallaby Way?

    Yes I did, if I do at least it give me an excuse to get hopping mad!

  29. 03/24/2013 at 10:34 am

    Jo :
    Syntara….sorry, starting the morning off fresh and did not go back to where the comments left off with yesterday’s postings so I don’t know if that video was from someone else or you ….if you reposted, so glad you did and it is a good thing I put my coffee down before I watched it or it would be all over my monitor. I have already played it 5 times and still laughing. Now if someone could do the same for Dr. Dunnonothing, that would really make my day.

    no no! That was Essem! It’s fabulous isn’t it? I just had to repost it so nobody who wanted to see it missed it.

  30. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 10:41 am

    Good morning all! Whenever we continue on another page, I have to re-subscribe again, so not getting these new posts. It says it sends me a confirmation e-mail to follow, but I never get it until I post something. 😦 Oh well, Love the video! Too funny.

  31. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:41 am

    laurel :
    I just wanted to say that Darrell Brewer (sp?) Didn’t want to appear on camera because hehas a young son 10 or 12 y.o. He didn’t want his son to see him testify on tv news.
    Anyway, that’s what I remembered hearing somewhere along the way.

    I know that didn’t come out in court but it makes sense although I think he kinda defeated his purpose. Because he didn’t have his face shown, that made everyone more curious plus JA was supposedly always close to his son.

    Truly though, would you ever want to be publicly linked and shown as the guy that spent 4 years with that skank? At least he is one of the lucky ones, he’s still alive!!! We’ll never know who she would have gone after next.

    I think the only one that was glad to be associated with said skank was Gus Searcy, who gives even the most slimy of used car salesmen a bad name. imho of course 😉

  32. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:42 am

    Hey Janet – how ya doing?

  33. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 10:44 am

    Hey Janet – how ya doing?
    MMD- doing good. having a cup of Joe, in my pajamas! 🙂 How is your head? OD on goofy pills yet??

  34. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 10:47 am

    Syntara :
    Grace question about 42 Wallaby Way?
    Yes I did, if I do at least it give me an excuse to get hopping mad!

    It’s from Finding Nemo – lol.

  35. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:47 am

    Nope to the goofy pills but the day is still young! 😉 Ya never know what Syn will drive me to do. LOL

  36. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 10:48 am

    Wow! so many different time zones here!!! I’m CST. I’m in Texas!! MMD, where in Canada are you?? I talk to people at work, that are in the Calgary area…

  37. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:49 am

    Still in my red plaid nightie 🙂 dogs still sleeping. It’s a Juanderful day in the neighbourhood, so far!

  38. 03/24/2013 at 10:49 am

    oohhhhh soz Grace ok well Ive never seen it… how bad is that! I spend a lot of time travelling so I miss that kind of stuff a lot!

  39. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 10:50 am

    Nope to the goofy pills but the day is still young! Ya never know what Syn will drive me to do. LOL
    MMD- LOL!! You two are a hoot!! Bring me a good laugh most of the day! (hands on hips)

  40. 03/24/2013 at 10:53 am

    Essem and I are both in Oz but she is 1.5 hrs ahead of me Janeto so thats 2 more

  41. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:54 am

    Janeto :
    Wow! so many different time zones here!!! I’m CST. I’m in Texas!! MMD, where in Canada are you?? I talk to people at work, that are in the Calgary area…

    Well Janet, I won’t hold it against you that you are from Texas!!!

    I’m way, way east in Prince Edward Island which is on Atlantic Time which is an hour ahead of ET. I’m so far east you don’t even have that time zone, although Puerto Rico might. We also have Newfoundland time which is another half an hour ahead! We’re practically across the pond to where Laine is. 🙂

  42. 03/24/2013 at 10:54 am

    Janeto :
    Nope to the goofy pills but the day is still young! Ya never know what Syn will drive me to do. LOL
    MMD- LOL!! You two are a hoot!! Bring me a good laugh most of the day! (hands on hips)

    pffft how that”s lovely! hahaha

  43. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:55 am

    Janet – Calgary is on MT I think.

  44. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:56 am

    pffft yourself Syn LOL

  45. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 10:56 am

    Well Janet, I won’t hold it against you that you are from Texas!!!
    I’m way, way east in Prince Edward Island which is on Atlantic Time which is an hour ahead of ET. I’m so far east you don’t even have that time zone, although Puerto Rico might. We also have Newfoundland time which is another half an hour ahead! We’re practically across the pond to where Laine is.

    Wow!! That is soo far!! You really NEED those antennas like SYN and Laine!!!

  46. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 10:57 am

    Well Janet, I won’t hold it against you that you are from Texas!!!

    Oh Please!!!! I got a can of Whoop Ass bigger than yours though!! LOL!!!

  47. 03/24/2013 at 10:58 am

    Im watching some defense stuff… sheesh you know I am really begin to think they are being deliberately useless. There;s no way that Dr Dodgy could have been worse it just seems deliberate. He’s just too bad.

  48. 03/24/2013 at 10:59 am

    my can of woop arse is biggest so both of you watch out!

  49. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 10:59 am

    Yeah right – everything in Texas is so much bigger, I know but you’re dealing with a Maritimer ya know and we’re of hardy stock! 😉

  50. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:00 am

    I rest my case with Syn!!! ROFL

  51. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:01 am

    my can of woop arse is biggest so both of you watch out!
    Yeah right – everything in Texas is so much bigger, I know but you’re dealing with a Maritimer ya know and we’re of hardy stock!

    Syn, MMD Ok, I give up!! I won’t challenge you two!

  52. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 11:02 am

    Syntara :
    oohhhhh soz Grace ok well Ive never seen it… how bad is that! I spend a lot of time travelling so I miss that kind of stuff a lot!

    It’s an older animated movie about a young clown fish (Nemo), and it centers around Nemo’s father trying to find him after a diver snatched him up off the reef. It “takes place” around Sydney (Wallaby Way) and there are some good Aussie barbs about Americans that are very funny.

  53. 03/24/2013 at 11:02 am

    I think WA (Western Australia) is bigger than Texas… hmm gonna check. Yay for google!

  54. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:03 am

    Speaking of Texas, I have to watch last week’s episode of Dallas. So far behind on so much!

  55. David In TN
    03/24/2013 at 11:03 am

    The defense attorneys for Jodi Arias never had much to work with. She admits to killing TA.

    There are four ways you can defend murder. One, my client didn’t do it. Two, It wasn’t murder, but an accident, suicide, etc. Three, it was legally justified, self defense or something. Four, it was somehow excusable. In this case, the defense has tried number three, but it’s mostly number four. They keep trotting out excuses.

    The state of Tennessee has stopped allowing juror questions. The jurors could ask questions in the first four Christian-Newsom trials in Knoxville. In the first, the jury didn’t ask a single question, even wehn the defendant (Cobbins) took the stand.

  56. 03/24/2013 at 11:04 am

    Grace yes I really need to see it. Always meant to never got around to is… I know he’s a clown fish 🙂

  57. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:04 am

    Google and spell check are my best friends!

  58. 03/24/2013 at 11:05 am

    crap biold omg Im so brain dead today sorry all

  59. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:05 am

    Syntara :
    oohhhhh soz Grace ok well Ive never seen it… how bad is that! I spend a lot of time travelling so I miss that kind of stuff a lot!
    Finding Nemo is a great movie!! I loved it!!! I forgot about Wallaby Way though!! LOL! I love Ellen D. as “short term memory” fish!!!! She is too funny!

  60. 03/24/2013 at 11:06 am

    True I agree they didnt have much to work with but seriously Dr Dodgy was like a comic character

  61. 03/24/2013 at 11:07 am

    I loved the Juror questions. They were a highlight for me

  62. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:07 am

    Speaking of Texas, I have to watch last week’s episode of Dallas. So far behind on so much!

    Me too MMD! I haven’t watched it yet!! By the time I do, I’ll forget what it was about! LOL!!!

  63. 03/24/2013 at 11:08 am

    Can TGA be caused by a bad haircut ROFL think that was my favourite so far.

  64. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:08 am

    David – I think that Wurmi is also milking this for all its worth as well considering he is getting paid by the state and only started his own practice (defending pedophiles, sex abusers, etc.) a year or so ago.

  65. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:09 am

    I think WA (Western Australia) is bigger than Texas… hmm gonna check. Yay for google!
    Syn, I wouldn’t know….Never knew anyone from OZ!!! LOL!!!!

  66. 03/24/2013 at 11:10 am

    ya it’s 3.6 times bigger in other words Texas is tinsy

  67. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:11 am

    I remember seeing a tweet from someone in the courtroom that said that Wurmi had basically become irrelevant and invisible in the case, which I though was kinda funny. I guess because it had turned into the Gidget/Dr.Quack show!

  68. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:11 am

    Janet – Calgary is on MT I think.
    Yep! You are right as wine!!!!!

  69. 03/24/2013 at 11:11 am

    well Janeto.. now you know 2 😀

  70. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 11:12 am

    Im watching some defense stuff… sheesh you know I am really begin to think they are being deliberately useless.

    Syntara: I don’t think so; my guess is that the number of licensed people willing to take this case for the defense is is relatively small. On paper, Doc Cowardly Lion (luv it) looks good.
    But once he start’s talking, it’s a giveaway; he’s a hack.He made it sound as if all major understanding of the brain happened in the past 10-15 years with guys like him leading the way in researching it! His tone on direct was so condescending I had trouble staying with his manner. Juantastic, unfortunately, couldn’t just stand up and say what a load of crap! He had to do a LOT of homework and detail thinking and studying to so effectively draw him in on a line like a big flounder.

  71. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:12 am

    Syntara :
    ya it’s 3.6 times bigger in other words Texas is tinsy

    Ok, proved your point! I have the 2nd biggest can!!! LOL!!!!!! But I’m a little firecracker to boot!!!

  72. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 11:13 am

    Janeto :
    Syntara :
    oohhhhh soz Grace ok well Ive never seen it… how bad is that! I spend a lot of time travelling so I miss that kind of stuff a lot!
    Finding Nemo is a great movie!! I loved it!!! I forgot about Wallaby Way though!! LOL! I love Ellen D. as “short term memory” fish!!!! She is too funny!

    I was laughing my butt off watching it again. If I didn’t like Dory (Ellen D.) so much, I would have made the connection to JA, but why ruin a good movie?

  73. 03/24/2013 at 11:13 am

    MMD he really has… the last time he was of any relevance was when I was looking to see the shocking socks I think it was Chrissie referred to first.

  74. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 11:13 am

    Remember the Cowardly Lion’s song about wanting “courage”? Dr Fog could sing about wanting “compassion”when he did his job with people like the defendannt!

  75. 03/24/2013 at 11:15 am

    Grace watch it…. watch it that would be sacrilege to make any connection between Nemo ands that thing.

  76. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:15 am

    Syntara :
    I loved the Juror questions. They were a highlight for me

    You know, I was worried about how many and what the jury could ask, and boy they did good!! I was highly impressed!!! They have all their numbers!!!!! I just hope JA doesn’t get her juror buddy!!

  77. 03/24/2013 at 11:16 am

    Robert how are ya mate? How’s thing in windmill ville today? we got vogelbekdiers here btw

  78. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:16 am

    3rd darlin’ 3rd!!! Maybe even 4th. Don’t forget that donchais has the ultimate can of whoop ass!

  79. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:16 am

    Doesn’t the fact remain that the last several $$expensive$$ days with dr.SHAMuels on the stand, has
    nothing to do with the murder, and preplanning of the slaughter? Does it?

    PS: Did anyone see the video of fame hoar Gus S. proposing to his then girlfriend (now wife)
    on the stage at a PPL event? fingers down the throat now…..

  80. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:17 am

    Morning Robert or rather late afternoon 🙂

  81. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:17 am

    Finding Nemo is a great movie!! I loved it!!! I forgot about Wallaby Way though!! LOL! I love Ellen D. as “short term memory” fish!!!! She is too funny!

    I was laughing my butt off watching it again. If I didn’t like Dory (Ellen D.) so much, I would have made the connection to JA, but why ruin a good movie?
    That’s her name! Dory!!! I couldn’t think that fast!!! it is hilarious!! You guys gotta see it!!! I always laugh when I see it again!!!!

  82. 03/24/2013 at 11:18 am

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    Remember the Cowardly Lion’s song about wanting “courage”? Dr Fog could sing about wanting “compassion”when he did his job with people like the defendannt!

    ROFL oh I can see it in my mind right now… in his clown out fit with his pychology (sic) for dummies.

    Did you see those pics chrissie posted days ago?

  83. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:18 am

    OMG NO i haven’t seen it Marilyn – got a link, purty please say yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:20 am

    PSS: Good morning, all!
    I have a 4 year old coming for the day so I’ll be out of commission.
    But it’s getting closer to tomorrow – 25-3/4 hrs away.
    I have a hunch Dr S is going to claim JM has caused him to go into PTSD!!

  85. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:20 am

    MMD :
    3rd darlin’ 3rd!!! Maybe even 4th. Don’t forget that donchais has the ultimate can of whoop ass!

    Oh yeah!!!! Ok……donchais does have the bigger can!!!! Let’s just say, I have a large can!! That should cover it!!! Ok, nough said!!!

  86. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:20 am

    MMD :
    OMG NO i haven’t seen it Marilyn – got a link, purty please say yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Might be a little later if my little girl shows up any moment now!!
    But I will for shore…..

  87. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:23 am

    Thank goodness – Marilyn is still on the dark side and doing our time countdown for us 🙂

  88. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:23 am

    Here’s the proposal vid –

  89. 03/24/2013 at 11:24 am

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    Im watching some defense stuff… sheesh you know I am really begin to think they are being deliberately useless.
    Syntara: I don’t think so; my guess is that the number of licensed people willing to take this case for the defense is is relatively small. On paper, Doc Cowardly Lion (luv it) looks good.

    Yes I agree with that. Anyone with a shred of integrity wouldn’t touch it. And agreed with resume too Sound impressive.

    But once he start’s talking, it’s a giveaway; he’s a hack.He made it sound as if all major understanding of the brain happened in the past 10-15 years with guys like him leading the way in researching it! His tone on direct was so condescending I had trouble staying with his manner. Juantastic, unfortunately, couldn’t just stand up and say what a load of crap! He had to do a LOT of homework and detail thinking and studying to so effectively draw him in on a line like a big flounder.

    Robert at one stage he was actually breaking new ground in his claims.. that was when I thought he was presenting his dissertation complete with scribble graphs to back it up.

  90. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 11:25 am

    Hello Syn and all! Lowlands doing well, but quite chilly. Last few days had snowy afternoons. After the southern Cal weather its a change. Also spent recently 2 months in NY/NJ which is close to Holland weather. I have been to Sydney and Calgary and enjoyed both, btw!

  91. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:25 am

    Janet Oh yeah!!!! Ok……donchais does have the bigger can!!!! Let’s just say, I have a large can!! That should cover it!!! Ok, nough said!!!

    That’s what I like. Someone graceful in defeat LOL although I have no doubt that you are quite the firecracker!

  92. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:26 am

    Sydney is Aussieland or Nova Scotia?

  93. 03/24/2013 at 11:26 am

    Marilyn N :
    PSS: Good morning, all!
    I have a 4 year old coming for the day so I’ll be out of commission.
    But it’s getting closer to tomorrow – 25-3/4 hrs away.
    I have a hunch Dr S is going to claim JM has caused him to go into PTSD!!

    … and he can’t testify cos of the fog!!

  94. Jo
    03/24/2013 at 11:28 am

    David in TN…..do you know why they stopped allowing questions? It certainly is making for an extended trial in Arias case. While some of the questions are excellent, it is the recross of the witnesses that is making it so lengthy because they are (to me) going over and over and over the responses again….asked & answered…so many times I could scream. I get it the first time, even the second. But I don’t know how the judge can stop the attorneys from doing that type of questioning. Even the objections are creating numerous time-consuming sidebars. This judge cannot possibly be immune to the jurors’ fidgeting, stretching, looking away NOR can these attorneys be so blind. Or maybe they are hoping to numb the jury.

  95. 03/24/2013 at 11:28 am

    MMD :
    Thank goodness – Marilyn is still on the dark side and doing our time countdown for us

    ahaha yeah hope she continues it tomorrow so for once I don’t have to ask!

  96. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 11:28 am

    Totally agree Robert.
    I’m always suspicious when an “expert” witness talks too much, especially when it’s info that is professionally questionable. JA did the same thing. Could you imagine if Dr. Horn went on & on & on about his findings? In my experience in the “psychology world”, the more someone keeps talking the more he/she is trying to be convincing. The DT allowed this to happen by not keeping it to “just the facts”.

  97. 03/24/2013 at 11:29 am

    Oh poo poos I still need to watch Slearzcy on Judge Judy too!

  98. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 11:31 am

    Question for room: Were the 6 or 8 pics of them (the WARNED AGAINST ONES) the only ones of a “sexual”nature that were retrieved? I mean, i would never call those pictures “sexual”; they look either by surprise (Travis) or staged (the defendant).. I know there was testiphoney from her about ropes and climaxes, but actual evidence, if these are the only ones, I see just another form of ambush from ja.

  99. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:33 am

    OMG that is too hilarious and what # wife is she?????????? LOL Since he’s such a big number guy I’m surprised that he didn’t announce the amount of carats and the cost. So NOT romantic!!!!

    Thanks Nancy!

  100. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:34 am

    Yeah folks – don’t look at those pictures! Causes permanent brain damage and yet no matter how many times I say it, pple still look 😦

  101. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:36 am

    No rope pics, Robert from R.
    All a part of her fictional story.

  102. 03/24/2013 at 11:37 am

    OMG I have sooooooo heard that crap before… typical direct marketing bs soz no offense to those involved in it just to me it is.

  103. 03/24/2013 at 11:39 am

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    Question for room: Were the 6 or 8 pics of them (the WARNED AGAINST ONES) the only ones of a “sexual”nature that were retrieved? I mean, i would never call those pictures “sexual”; they look either by surprise (Travis) or staged (the defendant).. I know there was testiphoney from her about ropes and climaxes, but actual evidence, if these are the only ones, I see just another form of ambush from ja.

    yes I believe those are all the pics. …… see what I mean??

  104. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 11:39 am

    It takes me so long to get thru reading the new posts every morning (we are on the west coast) that I don’t know if this has been addressed ready. Sorry if it is a repeat. Gus Sleazy testified that he heard Travis say “Damn it, Jodi” in the infamous phone call. JA then went outside to talk and came back upset. He has no idea what the conversation was about. Could it have been JA saying she wanted to come to Mesa and Travis saying “damn it Jodi, I’ve told you I didn’t want to see you godawful croutch again”. Of, did she tell him she already had her ticket to Cancun and he said “damn it Jodi, I’ve told you I’m going with a nice clean virginal Mormon girl that I would not be embarrassed to marry”. Since Sleazy could have no way of knowing both sides of the conversation he should have kept his mouth shut .
    Loved the vid of JA describing her schools.
    Hubby read the info on PPL and the comments seem to lean towards the fact that it is a scam. Some said that as a regular person with a policy, the best you can expect is a “free” will drawn up.
    E

  105. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 11:40 am

    The issue of Mr Brewer not being on camera is confusing to me. Are all people asked if they wish to appear? What the hell is that? If it’s an open trial, its an open trial. I read rhe reason given, but, it hardly seems definitive as a policy.
    The system itself is adjusting to TV in the courtrooms. It was my opinion that the OJ case set back the movement 10-15 years. Justice Scalia keeps saying he’ll never allow them in the Supreme Court. But who the hell is he to decide that?
    Frankly, I think on e of the problems is the camera direction that goes on. Someone is always editing the POV. During th eoJ trial, the camera zoomed in on Simpson’s notes on the desk and the judge halted action to correct such use of the camera. I also don’t think it’s particularly fair to keep a camera on a defendant all the time. I felt that about William Kennedy and his rape trial; the woman was always shielded and he was always on screen. he was acquitted. What gives?
    I think the “camera”should be in the position of someone of the public in the courtroom. To see what they see(except the jury). It wouldn’t be as ïnteresting”as close-ups and wideshots, but it would be fairer and more in keeping with allowiong the public to attend trials.
    I

  106. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 11:40 am

    MMD :
    Yeah folks – don’t look at those pictures! Causes permanent brain damage and yet no matter how many times I say it, pple still look

    No Kidding MMD ~ I saw those pics of Skanky-Boo-Boo’s (I stole that from someone else) Skanky hoo -hoo a while ago. I wish I could get them out of my memory!!! Hey maybe Dr. Doody can give me a book?

  107. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 11:42 am

    Typing on damn IPhone so ignore mistakes and hopefully you can decifer what I meant to say

  108. 03/24/2013 at 11:42 am

    Im sorry but thinking about being Gus Searcy’s wife has put me in acute fog from PTSD… it’s even worse thought than being Dr Dodgy’s wife and that’s a bad enought thought in itself!!

    Stop it now!

    *takes a handfull of goofy pills*

  109. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:44 am

    Grace :
    I wish I could get them out of my memory!!! Hey maybe Dr. Doody can give me a book?

    I betcha that he could and he would have a great time describing why it is not therapy ROFL

  110. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 11:45 am

    also just for general info: I have been in a few trials in my personal life and I have attended a number of high profile cases asd an observer. I sat in on the Watergate trial in Washington , in the OJ trial in Los Angeles and the Michael Jacson in Santa Maria. I went to the fedral case against Rodney Kings cops. I have attended a case at the Supreme Court of the US. Like most of this room, I watch cable or stream views–I followed the Spector and Dr Murray trials. So when I discuss it, its as one who both attends and watchesd.

  111. 03/24/2013 at 11:47 am

    Nancy P esa and Travis saying “damn it Jodi, I’ve told you I didn’t want to see you godawful croutch again

    ROFL! hahahhahaha

    seriously though. If she did come back in crying it was all show. In fact whatever the call was about she would have gaslighted him so slearcy got whatever im pression she wanted him to.

    I’ve experienced that behaviour from someone just like JA many many many times.

  112. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:48 am

    Nancy P: Travis was probably saying, “Dammit Jodi, stop calling me”!!!

  113. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:48 am

    Robert – don’t even get me started on Robert Kennedy Smith and his attorney Roy Black He just put up such a ridiculous defense for this polo guy John Goodman for veh manslaughter, leaving the scene, etc and luckily the guy was found guilty. But Black tried to say that it was the Bentley’s fault, not the fact the Goodman was dead drunk and left the poor victim to drown upside down in his car in a canal.

  114. 03/24/2013 at 11:50 am

    Ive never watched or attended one so my legal knowledge is flatline. I have, however spent 8 years intensely studying human behaviour specialising in psychopathy.

  115. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:52 am

    Plus this Goodman guy had already paid the Wilson family $45 million in a civil law suit and adopted his girlfriend so that she could now go on his kid’s trust fund so no one could touch his money. He was sentenced to 16 years and is currently serving his time in his mcmansion on his massive polo ppty with sheriff’s guarding him 24/7 with an ankle monitor while he appeals his sentence. Gimme a f**king break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  116. 03/24/2013 at 11:52 am

    Grace :
    I wish I could get them out of my memory!!! Hey maybe Dr. Doody can give me a book?

    Called erroneous erogenous zones?

  117. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 11:53 am

    I just watched the Gus video, and what I could NOT get out of my head, is how much he and “Shameuels” look sooooo much alike!!! And even talk alike!!! I had my finger down my throat for sure!!!! I think they are related in some strange fashion!! I certainly have to take some goofy pills!!!

  118. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:54 am

    Robert – I agree about the OJ case. The attorneys all performed for the camera and the worst culprit was Lance Ito!!!

  119. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:54 am

    MMD – OMG that Bentley guy, Goodman. A piece of work story that was.
    How do these defense attorneys sleep at night?
    And then Goodman adopted his girlfriend for monetary reasons……..

  120. 03/24/2013 at 11:54 am

    But seriously I’m telling you Travis is ASLEEP!

  121. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:55 am

    Goofy pills all around and please everyone put on your new improved foil hats!!!!

  122. 03/24/2013 at 11:55 am

    Syntara ~ good day, just read an article ( well several really) but this main one was about Dr. Hare’s PCL-R test for psychopathy. Verrrrry interesting. Ok, we all know she is a psychopath but will this not play any part of her defense because it had nothing to do with self defense? Would she have had to plead insanity? There is so much in my brain right now I am trying to sort it all out. Heaven help those that ask me anything cause it might come out psycho babble. 😉

    AND the video from Essem was my funniest moment in a long time. Ending completely caught me off guard. Thanks for posting.

  123. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:56 am

    plus he is flying his girlfriend in every weekend on his private jet! gag, gag

  124. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 11:57 am

    Syntara-love your comments on psychology. My beef with the US system is that it is not transparent enough. Why NOT have all filmed as a matter of right. Its a great way to see it at work. To see good and bad lawyers and judges. before the late 1990’s, if you weren’t in an actual court for something, you wouldn’t have a clue.

  125. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:57 am

    Vickee – what post # is the video from Essem?

  126. 03/24/2013 at 11:58 am

    No psychopaths are far from insane. Do not confuse psychopathy with insanity. It is a brain that functions differently for as yet unknown reasons maybe choice, enviro, genetic combo of any or all. But it is NOT insanity.

  127. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 11:58 am

    Goodman should just man up, do his time, while he is still a young man. Thankfully, his latest appeal – conflict of interest with the ada – was squashed!!!

  128. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 11:59 am

    MMD :
    plus he is flying his girlfriend in every weekend on his private jet! gag, gag

    Arrrrrrrggggggggg!!!!! No reality for these mega rich, born with a spoon in their mouths, people!

    (my girl is late!!)

  129. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 12:00 pm

    But seriously I’m telling you Travis is ASLEEP!

    Yes! and until I saw it, I hadn’t known. I thought it was accepted that they “posed”for pictures. The first one has a bottle of KY or something like that next to him; she could have placed it there. The next picture of him looked like he was jusy awaking and no bottle. I think she took herself.

  130. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:00 pm

    Robert – now the judge in Dr. Murray’s trial had total control of the courtroom, not like this judge!!!!

  131. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 12:03 pm

    MMD–absolutely! So did the Spector trial have a judge who moved things.

  132. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:04 pm

    Robert – ya gotta remember that we only have JA’s word about the photos and she and the truth are not acquainted!

  133. 03/24/2013 at 12:06 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    Syntara-love your comments on psychology. My beef with the US system is that it is not transparent enough. Why NOT have all filmed as a matter of right. Its a great way to see it at work. To see good and bad lawyers and judges. before the late 1990′s, if you weren’t in an actual court for something, you wouldn’t have a clue.

    Yeah I can see a point to this I’ve never thought of before. At least it could serve as some kind of external monitor. Or am being way too idealistic, probably. I mean things didnt seem to improve between OJ getting off and that little Girl that was probably drowned the mother got off.

    The only thing I know about that is seeing a brilliant doco from Dr G who performed the little girls autopsy. Now that is one hell of an ME. Casey Anthony case??

  134. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 12:06 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    But seriously I’m telling you Travis is ASLEEP!
    Yes! and until I saw it, I hadn’t known. I thought it was accepted that they “posed”for pictures. The first one has a bottle of KY or something like that next to him; she could have placed it there. The next picture of him looked like he was jusy awaking and no bottle. I think she took herself.

    I have to agree, he was asleep! I agree with you that SHE set him up the whole time on photo shooting!! And I do believe she had the timer on HER photos. He didn’t take them…IMO!!

  135. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 12:07 pm

    MMD- I know that but I was curious if they had retrieved any other photos? I know what she said, the remaining pictures don’t suggest that IMO.

  136. 03/24/2013 at 12:09 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    But seriously I’m telling you Travis is ASLEEP!
    Yes! and until I saw it, I hadn’t known. I thought it was accepted that they “posed”for pictures. The first one has a bottle of KY or something like that next to him; she could have placed it there. The next picture of him looked like he was jusy awaking and no bottle. I think she took herself.

    I hadnt known either.. the pic was on my big tv screen in front of me.. I was typing looked up and it just was so obvious… I thought ffs is he asleep> I got up went right up to the screen, then to the imac that was mirroring it to the tv and I thought “holy shizers he’s asleep!!!”

  137. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 12:10 pm

    Syntara :
    No psychopaths are far from insane. Do not confuse psychopathy with insanity. It is a brain that functions differently for as yet unknown reasons maybe choice, enviro, genetic combo of any or all. But it is NOT insanity.

    It sure is hard NOT to say they are insane though….I trust you know better, but to one who has never studied like you have, it’s all insane to me….at least now I know the difference. Thanks Syn!!!! Hope you don’t mind me calling you Syn. It’s easier for me to remember! LOL!!!

  138. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:11 pm

    THose were the only photos retrieved from HIS camera which was in the washer. Don’t know about JA’s cameras. Supposedly she had 2 but only brought 1 in the house. It was supposed to have the sex tape on it which I don’t think exists either.

  139. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 12:12 pm

    SYN- Really your comment on it sent me over there and I’m telling you i did not expect to see what I saw. I think I thought that the lab must have retrieved more of them. But they didn’t and I’m telling you, he looks ambused. And she looks staged. And I wonder if even the shower pics, he was totally aware of.

  140. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:14 pm

    Oh, I think he was aware of the shower pics because I think she was holding the gun on him!

  141. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:18 pm

    Janet – I know it is soooooo hard not to say she is insane because we can’t wrap our heads around the way her brain works. I just stick to calling her a loon – no offense to the bird!!!

  142. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:19 pm

    OMG syn – you didn’t look at ALL those pictures on a big screen did you????? smh cause if you did, that would explain so much LOL 😉

  143. 03/24/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Janeto It sure is hard NOT to say they are insane though….I trust you know better, but to one who has never studied like you have, it’s all insane to me….at least now I know the difference. Thanks Syn!!!! Hope you don’t mind me calling you Syn. It’s easier for me to remember! LOL!!!

    Syn is fine absolutely. and yes it does seem insane because it is so strange to the normally ordered thinking person to conceive of thinking the way they do let alone getting your head around it. It’s a very difficult thing to do. Some people still refuse to believe it but because of people like JA that number is less and less and Dr Hares brain scans are undeniable.

    Interestingly when he originally submitted his doctorate the scans were sent back because the reviewer thought the wrong ones had been submitted. They thought the person was asleep. That is how stark the differences are.

  144. 03/24/2013 at 12:22 pm

    MMD :
    OMG syn – you didn’t look at ALL those pictures on a big screen did you????? smh cause if you did, that would explain so much LOL

    LOL No the one of travis only and I didnt even know it was mirroring to the TV it was almost like I was supposed to see it. I just looked up and it was there and my eyes when straight to his and I thought holy shite he’s asleep.

  145. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:24 pm

    Thank God!!!!!!!!!!!! I would have have serious concerns if you had seen the non-sexy skank photos.

  146. 03/24/2013 at 12:25 pm

    Marilyn N~. # 16. Syntara re~posted it.

  147. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:26 pm

    They were bad enough on a computer screen!!! Can you imagine the retina damage that the people in the courtroom suffered if they looked at the big screen and not the monitors!!

  148. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:27 pm

    Hey Vickee, I didn’t realize you were here **** waves*****

  149. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:28 pm

    I wonder if Gussy boy is still married to that woman?????????

  150. 03/24/2013 at 12:30 pm

    Robert: I think some look like he is aware, but a lot are questionable. Whi knows how far away she might have been when she took them but is there a shower door? Seems like it was open if there is. I need to check crime scene photos for that as well.

    Plus the comparison to the psycho ones just seem to coincidental. Are you mathematically inclined. The odd of six or so random pic poses mirroring each other must be astronomical when calculated. I wouldn’t even begin to know how to calculated… how many poses are in existence? is the number even quantifiable.

    Not to mention her admission to Flores when she was on the ninja story that when they appeared Her and Travis were taking poses for Calvin Klein type shoot and someone said she said movie poses but did not say which movie. I need to review because I personally did not pick up on the movie reference.

  151. 03/24/2013 at 12:31 pm

    yes Hi Vickee remiss of me not to greet you, sorry bout that luvvy! 😛 Forgive me

  152. 03/24/2013 at 12:32 pm

    So the rest of you already knew he was asleep?

  153. 03/24/2013 at 12:33 pm

    MMD :
    Thank God!!!!!!!!!!!! I would have have serious concerns if you had seen the non-sexy skank photos.

    ROFL…. don’t worry dear Im not that sick!!!

  154. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 12:36 pm

    Just watched the Gus Sleazy proposal vid, used my last three barf bags. Signing off for a few to go buy more since mail order will not be quick enuf. By the way ,out local supermarket has a big display of pop rocks for Easter. I think they are strawberry. Didn’t look for fear of someone KNOWING about them and thinking I was into that LOL. It’s funny since I have no idea what I’d do with them. Since there was so much anal discussions going on I assumed (silly silly me) that they put them in the yahoo. Now I’m really embarrAssed!!!!!!!!!!!

  155. 03/24/2013 at 12:37 pm

    hhahaha tootsie rolls Nancy P?

  156. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 12:37 pm

    SYNTARA- with a zoom lens, she takes these images while he’s showering. Th eone pic above him, she rises her arm and snaps. He doesn’t see her or hear her. He turns off the water,turns and THEN sees her for the first time. She tells him to sit and look at her. No water running,him sitting, most vulnerable. She stabs him in the heart. And the struggle is on.

  157. 03/24/2013 at 12:39 pm

    MMD :
    I wonder if Gussy boy is still married to that woman?????????

    What about Dr Dodgy’s wife? does he have one?

  158. 03/24/2013 at 12:42 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    SYNTARA- with a zoom lens, she takes these images while he’s showering. Th eone pic above him, she rises her arm and snaps. He doesn’t see her or hear her. He turns off the water,turns and THEN sees her for the first time. She tells him to sit and look at her. No water running,him sitting, most vulnerable. She stabs him in the heart. And the struggle is on.

    What about the back shots, Not a usual shower pose? But it explains why they are so dark, at least the ones on the net are. That’s why I wanted some clearer ones of the shower shots than I had to get a better look at them.

    You have any links to good shower shots? The best I have is the last one of his face that’s perfect. So sad.

  159. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:44 pm

    Syn – see Marilyn’s post #89 above

  160. LindaLou
    03/24/2013 at 12:45 pm

    Hi All, me again. I was sooooo far behind and now caught up, I’m so glad I found this site and love everyone’s posts. You sure do keep me laughing. Just wondering if anyone can explain why 18 jurors. Do all deliberate? How does it work? I’m from Maryland. We pick 12 jurors and two alternates but just the 12 deliberate. I thought I read in earlier posts regarding JA’s possible juror friend, that he may not be included in the final 12. Just confused. Thx bunches.

  161. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:45 pm

    The movie was Psycho starring Janet Leigh

  162. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 12:46 pm

    Hi LindaLou

    18 juror = 12 jurors plus 6 alternates but the actual 12 will be chosen when it’s time to deliberate

  163. 03/24/2013 at 12:48 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    SYNTARA- with a zoom lens, she takes these images while he’s showering. Th eone pic above him, she rises her arm and snaps. He doesn’t see her or hear her. He turns off the water,turns and THEN sees her for the first time. She tells him to sit and look at her. No water running,him sitting, most vulnerable. She stabs him in the heart. And the struggle is on.

    I jst think the ahower shots are reluctant.. but I’m still very much in WIP mode on it cos I need better pics.

    There are two possibilities at this stage as far as I see.

    1) they are via leans… she gets him to only sit for the final. or

    2) she came in when he was already in the shower… talked him into the shoot because she’s persisten and whiny and won’t let up
    He reluctantly agrees to shut her up hoping she’s going to leave afterwards. She gets him to do the poses. All psycho scene shots except the sitting one.. which is to get him at his most vulnerable… wham she strikes.

  164. 03/24/2013 at 12:50 pm

    MMD #89 isn’t that gus’ wife? I mean Dr Dodgy’s wife does he have one?

  165. 03/24/2013 at 12:50 pm

    Hey Lindalou how are you? 🙂

  166. 03/24/2013 at 12:52 pm

    MMD :
    The movie was Psycho starring Janet Leigh

    I need to go review those interviews properly

  167. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 12:59 pm

    Syntara:

    Yes, probably your #2. ButI read someone the other day write that maybe she had left and he went in to shower. This was the time that she put up the fence for Napoleon and got ready for the kill. Something tells me he was in there alone, just as he was lying in bed, asleep, alone. She stalked to the end..

  168. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 1:01 pm

    MMD :
    Robert – now the judge in Dr. Murray’s trial had total control of the courtroom, not like this judge!!!!

    Agreed! This judge drives me nuts. I wonder if this is her very first death penalty trial? On the facebook page that Tanisha wrote her long message I found her CV and from that it states that she was involved in court custody cases. That’s a big difference, there but I think her style is just wayyyy too laissez faire. I loved the judge in the Murray trial and the Stepahie Lazarus trials. Give me one like those any day compared to Stephans. I’ve been aggravated that she has allowed witnesses to dis the prosecutor! Where is the decorum in her court? How disrespectful to have continually allowed JA & shclock doc’s directly insulting Juan. I’ll need a ton of goofy pills to get me through the defense’s next witness for sure!

    On a different note, I heard that the defense filed another motion – this one is some type of restraining order? Supposedly to keep all the details of the defense’s compensation from being disclosed. Does anyone know if there’s any truth to that???

  169. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD #89 isn’t that gus’ wife? I mean Dr Dodgy’s wife does he have one?

    Sorry Syn – my bad – I got them mixed up with Gus1 and Gus 2

  170. 03/24/2013 at 1:02 pm

    Put up the fence to napoleon.. please elaborate? I Know napoleon is the dog.

  171. 03/24/2013 at 1:03 pm

    MMD omg it’s so easy to do. They are so alike!! Physically and character traits.. sooooooo weird.

  172. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Robert I was the one who said that I thought she left earlier and that she came back later and surprised him in the shower. Ya gotta remember that this was planned and she had previously used the doggie door to get in. This is just my opinion though.

  173. LindaLou
    03/24/2013 at 1:03 pm

    MMD – thanks again. I suppose the 12 are chosen at random.

    Syntara – I’m good. Just trying to catch up on housework. Knew it was bad when hubby asked if I was going to wash clothes – said he was out of underwear.

  174. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 1:04 pm

    The roomates told Det. Flores that when they got in the thing they noticed ödd”was that the furniture was moved; Travis watch was there, and “someone”had put up a fence to restrict the dog from going upstairs. They said Travis gave his dog the run of the house.

  175. 03/24/2013 at 1:05 pm

    As I said in my scenario… she had either left.. or she was using that c leaner appliance downstairs and he felt safe to shower.

    That appliance is in the middle of nowhere for some reason.

  176. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 1:05 pm

    On HLN last week they had a well known atty on whose name I can’t remember – Alex something? His practice is in AZ and he said that JW is getting paid $95.00/hour. I’m confused – I thought that she was a salaried employee with the public defender’s office. Anyone else heard that?

  177. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:05 pm

    There was a zig zag fence to keep Napoleon out of the living room plus one to keep him from going upstairs. Haven’t seen photos of the one for the stairs tho

  178. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 1:05 pm

    MMD- yes and I think you are on to something with that. When else would the dog fence be put up?

  179. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:07 pm

    Maybe that’s what salaried employees get paid. Wurmi is just getting extra because he started his own practice and they wouldn’t let him leave the case.

  180. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Hey Robert – I’m not just another pretty face!!!!! You have to have a brain to function on this site!!! 😉 ROFL

  181. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:09 pm

    Now when it’s computer issues, then we’re talking about something entirely different! 😦 smh

  182. 03/24/2013 at 1:10 pm

    LindaLou :
    MMD – thanks again. I suppose the 12 are chosen at random.
    Syntara – I’m good. Just trying to catch up on housework. Knew it was bad when hubby asked if I was going to wash clothes – said he was out of underwear.

    Don’t throw the camera in!

  183. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:13 pm

    LindaLou :
    Knew it was bad when hubby asked if I was going to wash clothes – said he was out of underwear.

    I hope you showed him which wash hot/cold cycle to use 🙂

  184. 03/24/2013 at 1:13 pm

    How hard is this fence to pit up and where is it? Is this that grid thing they put the photo into evidence of? When did the roommates take it own. Ive never heard of this fence before but all my info is from the trial so far

  185. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:15 pm

    The photos were part of the crime scene photos

  186. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:15 pm

    It just folds up – imagine an accordian

  187. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:18 pm

    It stands up on the floor and goes across the livingroom

  188. 03/24/2013 at 1:22 pm

    I think she had already left or was downstairs cleaning or a combination of the two. Either way he thought he was safe to take a shower. Napoleon was fenced inside the house downstairs?

  189. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:23 pm

    Folks ya just gotta picture this. I’m lying here in bed with my laptop eating a bowl of canteloupe/honeydew/pineapple using a toothpick, cos I’m pretending it’s and assume appetizer or chocolate and I have 1 bite for me, 1 for dog on the bed 1 for dog on floor. 3rd dog currently has her own bowl of food w/fruit on top but is more interested in her dentastyk and treat. Truly we are a sight to behold!!!!!!!!:-) ROFL

  190. 03/24/2013 at 1:24 pm

    yeah yeh I saw it.. it was black. I thought he was bigger than that he must have been tinsy.

    so she could have done that and been downstairs cleaning… there is a reason for that appliance being where it was. Plus its significant cos its in as an exhibit

  191. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:24 pm

    I think he thought she was long gone probably back to Yreka – can’t remember if she told him she was going to Utah

  192. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 1:25 pm

    In the first pic of TA, it looks like he is waking up or dozing. The KY bottle to the right of the pic. The next pic taken 3 minutes later shows a surprised face on TA and either he or JA is moving bc the pic is blurred. The KY is now all the way to the left of the pic. Why would she move the bottle? Maybe the first shot woke him bc it was taken with the flash on? Most of the pics in the shower are blurry and the flash is off. The last two pics of TA are sharp and the flash is on. As a “photographer” JA would have wanted to get those good Calvin shots. Maybe the last pic is the only one he knew was being taken bc she told him to pose for it?

  193. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:26 pm

    The roommates said that they had never seen the cleaner put together before and one was in and out that day

  194. 03/24/2013 at 1:27 pm

    LOL! hahahaha sounds great MMD! Ive got puters all around me ipad two imacs and watching Flores testimony on apple tv in front of me… two pusscats staring at me with little black/brown masks (birmans) thinking ” is she still doing that????”

  195. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 1:27 pm

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjd0b0

    This makes the priceline transaction that we saw on her credit card statement below Tesoro more suspicious.

  196. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:27 pm

    I think Napoleon is pretty small because I though at least one of my dogs would be able to jump over that fence and they are 10 – 12 pound range.

  197. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:29 pm

    Syn – ” is she still doing that????” LOL Exactly

  198. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 1:29 pm

    Syntara
    03/24/2013 at 1:13 pm | #185 Quote
    How hard is this fence to pit up and where is it? Is this that grid thing they put the photo into evidence of? When did the roommates take it own. Ive never heard of this fence before but all my info is from the trial so far

    I read the report of Detective Flores and he writes that one of the roommates told him that about the dog fence. It makes sense, ja didn’t want his dog helping him. What’s interesting is that she left the fence up, keeping the dog away from Travis’room.

  199. 03/24/2013 at 1:29 pm

    maybe he put the cleaner together, since she did his cleaning for him maybe she said..hey I’ll go clean down there while you have a shower…she goes downstairs puts the fence up for napoleon starts cleaning only long enought to hear him in the shower… goes back up to kill him

  200. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Ok ladies(using term loosely) you may not have noticed that Juantastic is wearing a wedding ring on his left hand. Soooo MMD, Syntara and the rest of you floozies (is that still a word ????? TAKE HEED—I have it on good authority that his WIFE is as fiesty as he is and is on her way to kick your collective butts.

  201. 03/24/2013 at 1:32 pm

    ok re leaving the fence up and the appliance in the middle of the floor.

    She had a way bigger cleanup than expected. Lots of washing machine action. The way out of the garage is through the laundry door they are the entry/exit throught the same door. She simply didn’t go back into that area. ie the fence is left up and the appliance left standing where she left it

  202. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:33 pm

    NancyB :
    This makes the priceline transaction that we saw on her credit card statement below Tesoro more suspicious.

    Right and why she bought sunscreen. I think that she was gonna give TA one more chance to let her weasel her way into the trip or if for some reason she didn’t kill him, she was going to surprise him there. With her mind, ya never can tell. For that matter, she could have just been going to Mexico to escape altho picking Cancun is highly suspicious!!!

  203. 03/24/2013 at 1:33 pm

    fiest blah…. We aussies ain’t pushovers ya know! I say pfffft and raise her another pfffft

  204. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:37 pm

    Nancy
    He has never had a wedding ring on cause I checked. The cute ME did though!

  205. 03/24/2013 at 1:37 pm

    Yep its about Cancun no doubt. She had bugger all money why spend so much.. why the sudden urgency after all those months to meet the new beau…she had only said one week before she was going to see him Nah beyond reasonable doubt it’s about cancun I reckon. done and dusted on that issue

  206. 03/24/2013 at 1:39 pm

    MMD :
    Nancy
    He has never had a wedding ring on cause I checked. The cute ME did though!

    hahahaha I saw that too … to both 😀 man we are bad!

  207. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 1:40 pm

    Just saw this on HuffPost comments:

    20 hours ago ( 5:21 PM)
    More bizarre activity in the life of Jodi Arias.

    Jodi created a youtube account on 5/29/08 (search user name: Jodiannarias), which coincidentally was one day after the gun was stolen from her grandparents’ house. She uploaded only one video entitled “Travis Alexander – Eddie Snell’s Paustenbalm”. The date of upload was 6/12/08; 8 days after she murdered him and 3 days after his body was discovered. Did she create the account in advance as yet another attempt to make herself look innocent after the fact?

  208. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:41 pm

    I posted that twit pic of her bank acct way back that I got off Chris Stark’s twitter and everyone said no way, it wasn’t for Cancun, even though it was $10 off the price to there. I think it was flying out of Pasadena, but can’t remember. I have it filed in my email files but it has gone wonky again!

  209. 03/24/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Robert: Yes is the simple answer. This is METICULOUSLY planned make no mistake about it.

  210. 03/24/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Who is chris stark? one of travis’ friends?

  211. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:46 pm

    Personally I think that JM is either
    1. totally devoted to his job and doesn’t have a personal life
    2. married numerous times but divorced because he is a workaholic
    3. if married, has been for years and they do their own thing cause he is always working

    But, which ever is the case – he’s all mine 🙂

  212. 03/24/2013 at 1:48 pm

    The ONLY thing that thwarted her diabolical plan was Travis. Travis fought so hard she ended up leaving so much evidence there really is no doubt. It’s eerie and it’s uplifting all at the same time> I feel so close to Travis because I see so clearly what happened that day.

    Yes there are slight grey areas, but it’s not enough to blur the overall picture. I so admire what he did yet I know he must have been in such pain as he did it all it makes me want to cry and cheer at the same time.

  213. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:49 pm

    No she is a paid researcher who is following this trial very closely! Here is a link to her page
    https://twitter.com/stark3923. She works from home and is going through cancer treatments so maybe that is why she is following this so closely.

    Donchais originally gave us the link to her page

  214. David In TN
    03/24/2013 at 1:49 pm

    Someone asked why TN stopped allowing juror questions, I haven’t seen a reason. They were no longer allowed in the second Vanessa Coleman trial last November. In Coleman’s first trial in May 2010 for the Christian-Newsom murders, I attended three days of the trial and saw the jurors ask questions. Not near as many as for JA but they were revealing.

    A lot of jurors were stuck on Daphne Sutton (the ringleader’s ex-girlfriend), and kept asking why she wasn’t arrested. Another topic of juror questions was why did the cops trick poor Vanessa. I saw (she wrote it and practically threw it toward the judge) a forty-something white woman ask this question.

    Almost every question in Coleman’s first trial seemed to be pro-defense. When Vanessa Coleman’s journal was admitted into evidence, there were NO juror questions.

  215. 03/24/2013 at 1:50 pm

    Looking at the photos of the stripped bed. She washed the linen so no dna was left even though she only likely laid on the bed for the shot ..It’s so weird she did all that – which goes to her ‘cleaning’ for Travis while he showered.

  216. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:51 pm

    I really like the jury question aspect to the trial. They are able to ask questions in a way that the attorneys can’t!

  217. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:52 pm

    Syn – no she had never met Travis but lives in Utah

  218. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 1:53 pm

    Donchais – are you any better today? This 1 min video says in bed to bend knees – makes some sense.


    The pain you were in yesterday would have sent me horizontal too!
    The interesting thing about sciatica is that exercise is actually part of the healing process. According to spine-health.com (a reputable site that is 100 percent peer-reviewed by medical professionals), “While it may seem counterintuitive, exercise is usually better for healing sciatic pain than bed rest. Without exercise and movement, the back muscles and spinal structures become deconditioned and less able to support the back . . . which causes additional back pain. Exercise is also important for the health of the spinal discs. Movement helps exchange nutrients and fluids within the discs to keep them healthy.”

  219. 03/24/2013 at 1:53 pm

    This jury has not been like that. They have been great questions on the whole…either funny or pointed. I’ve been surprised I was really curious to see what might come out.

  220. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:54 pm

    I think she absolutely loaded the wash with bleach and either didn’t realize that the camera was in the sheets when she grabbed them and thought the bleach would get rid of the blood or 2 figured the bleach would ruin the camera. I mean really, she took the time to delete the photos, so why bother to put it in the washer?????

  221. 03/24/2013 at 1:55 pm

    MMD :
    I really like the jury question aspect to the trial. They are able to ask questions in a way that the attorneys can’t!

    Me too I so loved the ones the other day they were soooo freaking hilarious… amd how they got Dr Dodgy talking about that meteor I have no idea but that was absolutely classic and true down the rabbit hole stuff.

  222. 03/24/2013 at 1:55 pm

    Oh shit that reminds me… Robert you still here?

  223. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Both roommates said that TA had a dark brown comforter and pillow set which has never been recovered.

  224. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 1:57 pm

    David In TN :
    Someone asked why TN stopped allowing juror questions, I haven’t seen a reason. They were no longer allowed in the second Vanessa Coleman trial last November. In
    Coleman’s first trial in May 2010 for the Christian-Newsom murders, I attended three days of the trial and saw the jurors ask questions. Not near as many as for JA but they were revealing.
    A lot of jurors were stuck on Daphne Sutton (the ringleader’s ex-girlfriend), and kept asking why she wasn’t arrested. Another topic of juror questions was why did the cops trick poor Vanessa. I saw (she wrote it and practically threw it toward the judge) a forty-something white woman ask this question.
    Almost every question in Coleman’s first trial seemed to be pro-defense. When Vanessa Coleman’s journal was admitted into evidence, there were NO juror questions.

    Yeah, I bet not! That journal of hers truly said it ALL – which is why the new sentence sucks in my opinion.

  225. 03/24/2013 at 1:58 pm

    I reckon she thought the spin cycle and the bleach/water would destroy it. Boy was that a stuff up thankfully she’s not that smart. She can lie without blinking but her lies are so stupid their bizarre.

  226. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 2:00 pm

    NancyB :
    Donchais – are you any better today? This 1 min video says in bed to bend knees – makes some sense.



    The pain you were in yesterday would have sent me horizontal too!
    The interesting thing about sciatica is that exercise is actually part of the healing process. According to spine-health.com (a reputable site that is 100 percent peer-reviewed by medical professionals), “While it may seem counterintuitive, exercise is usually better for healing sciatic pain than bed rest. Without exercise and movement, the back muscles and spinal structures become deconditioned and less able to support the back . . . which causes additional back pain. Exercise is also important for the health of the spinal discs. Movement helps exchange nutrients and fluids within the discs to keep them healthy.”

    Donchais, I have back issues and I ALWAYS sleep with a pillow between my knees. I wouldn’t be able to walk the next day if I didn’t. It truly does make a difference. Even if I’m just lying on my back I have a pillow under my knees. Try it – it really works. My back goes into spasms so I have to be careful. If not, then I end up walking around with a 12 hour heat wrap on.

  227. 03/24/2013 at 2:00 pm

    You know another witness I think did really well was the woman who did the forensic latency print testimony. I thought she was well spoken, informative and engaging even though much of her testimony was submission of exhibits and placing them in the house and crime scene.

  228. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/24/2013 at 2:01 pm


    anyone catch this? The heat is Juan.

  229. 03/24/2013 at 2:03 pm

    The heat tis on baby!!!

    mmmwhahaha love it thanks Robert MMD you dont need to comment

  230. 03/24/2013 at 2:04 pm

    He gets i her head… oh soooo true and what some idiots just don’t get!!!

  231. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 2:08 pm

    Oh Robert – this is PRICELESS!!!

  232. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 2:08 pm

    Robert = Love it, love it, love it and no wedding ring in sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 Thank you Robert. That will definitely go into my Juan file!!!!!!!!

    Syn – Sorry, couldn’t help it! 😉

  233. 03/24/2013 at 2:09 pm

    OMG even the I love Jodi shirt… whoever did this sis soooo good! ahaha even the pooping pants a la the next day the baby poo brown suit rofl!! Hope someone emails it to Juan baby that is sooooooo cool!!! He’d love it I reckon.

  234. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 2:10 pm

    I thought she was a good witness too. Ya know, JM is not going to call someone who is not going to help his case .

  235. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 2:10 pm

    gotta watch Juanterful again!!! 🙂

  236. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 2:11 pm

    MMD :
    Personally I think that JM is either
    1. totally devoted to his job and doesn’t have a personal life
    2. married numerous times but divorced because he is a workaholic
    3. if married, has been for years and they do their own thing cause he is always working
    But, which ever is the case – he’s all mine

    I agree MMD – except for your last statement. I’m moving to Phoenix. 😉

  237. 03/24/2013 at 2:11 pm

    People love him it’s sooo great to see!

  238. LindaLou
    03/24/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Syntara :
    You know another witness I think did really well was the woman who did the forensic latency print testimony. I thought she was well spoken, informative and engaging even
    though much of her testimony was submission of exhibits and placing them in the house and crime scene.

    Syntara, I agree. I really hated on cross when Nurmi had her take all of the clothes out of the evidence bag again and state what they were. What was his point?

  239. 03/24/2013 at 2:12 pm

    LOL! Grace!

  240. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/24/2013 at 2:14 pm

    MMD :

    Grace :
    This may have been posted before, but does anyone know why Daryl Brew-haha testified off camera?

    Nope – but I’m pretty sure that I could identify his hands in a lineup. I did see his face on tv (can’t remember where) but it showed him testifying. Just an average looking joe – nothing unusual.

    We all thought….well how stupid is that….hiding his face in court….there’s pictures all over the internet of him with his son and JA!! The newscasters at the time were saying that he wanted his face hidden for the sake of his son who is not 14 (according to JA). We’re sure that when his ex-wife found out that he had their son around a murderer she probably let him have it!!

  241. 03/24/2013 at 2:15 pm

    Syntara :
    You know another witness I think did really well was the woman who did the forensic latency print testimony. I thought she was well spoken, informative and engaging even
    though much of her testimony was submission of exhibits and placing them in the house and crime scene.

    Syntara, I agree. I really hated on cross when Nurmi had her take all of the clothes out of the evidence bag again and state what they were. What was his point?

    I have no idea… because he’s an @hole is my guess quite seriously but she took it really well. She was so professional unlike Dodgeridoo who will never get another job or shouldn’t, peeps should be lining up to use her.

  242. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 2:17 pm

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjd1h3
    More good stuff from Chris Stark

  243. 03/24/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Robert that link to the croatian? woman who see things upside down was wild. and your comment re dodgydoodee about it was hilarious I just cant remember what is was now.

  244. Jo
    03/24/2013 at 2:21 pm

    David in TN…..then I am relieved that they no longer will be allowed to ask questions. That journal was telling. Thanks. And I agree with Nancy B. Her sentence was not long enough.

  245. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/24/2013 at 2:22 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :

    anyone catch this? The heat is Juan.

    That was fantastic!! Had these old Hens up and dancing all over the place!! THE HEAT IS JUAN!! Good stuff!! Great Battle Cry!! Go get her JM!!

  246. 03/24/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Have these people even seen what Ja did to this families loved one??

    #JodiArias Dumb Sister of 3 hole wonder HATES Travis Family: “I would also like to put out there that Travis’s family or his friends who ever they are are horrible people!!!”

    Im sorry but ppl like this should NOT be allowed to procreate.

  247. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Grace :
    I agree MMD – except for your last statement. I’m moving to Phoenix. <img

    Dream on Grace!!!!! 😉 I’ve had dibs on him for a long long time. LOL

  248. 03/24/2013 at 2:27 pm

    this is beautiful

    they “twist your words around and manipulate what you say into what you they think you mean.”

    Obviously this whole entry was one of those notes smuggled out last week.

  249. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Syntara :
    Have these people even seen what Ja did to this families loved one??
    #JodiArias Dumb Sister of 3 hole wonder HATES Travis Family: “I would also like to put out there that Travis’s family or his friends who ever they are are horrible people!!!”
    Im sorry but ppl like this should NOT be allowed to procreate.

    Ya but they have. There are more kids in that family and they all seem a tad off.

  250. 03/24/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Poster family for forced sterilisation

  251. 03/24/2013 at 2:30 pm

    CCC *waves* howdee doodee all

  252. 03/24/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Nobody should ever get away with doing this to someone.

  253. Grace
    03/24/2013 at 2:43 pm

    MMD :

    Grace :
    I agree MMD – except for your last statement. I’m moving to Phoenix. <img

    Dream on Grace!!!!! I’ve had dibs on him for a long long time. LOL

    LOL!!!

  254. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 2:45 pm

    I think little sister has the same fertile imagination as her twit sister. None and I repeat none of Travis’ friends or family would call her two year old a name like she said. That sounds more like a word one of JA’s crowd would use.

  255. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 3:06 pm

    Help!!!!!last post came in about 25 minutes ago. Have I been bounced off the site or what the hay is going on?????

  256. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 3:09 pm

    OT Warning – the following is a description of a personal very traumatic experience in my childhood. To this day, I consider this trauma to have affected my whole life. It’s about a child murder so if anyone does not want to read this please just skip past to next comment. I have never shared this with anyone but my husband and it felt very healing to write this down. Adults often do not believe that children have thoughts and feelings that are as powerful and valid as any adults.

    This is about the first psychopath I’ve personally known in my life. Thankfully the rest of them were either a few corporations I’ve worked for and there was one boss who tortured me with gas lighting and other more devious stunts very early in my career. It took me nearly 6 months to figure out what was going on and once I did I immediately found another job.

    It was August 1965 and I was 10 yrs old. I went to girl scout camp for 2 weeks and the day my family came to get me, we had just all piled into the station wagon and my dad hadn’t even pulled out of Juliet Crowe Camp when one of my brother’s started to tell me the horrific news.

    My mom stopped him and then I became upset because I knew something serious and terrible had happened and so then my mom told me. My best girlfriend, Beth’s younger brother, Cremer Young was 8 y/o and he was murdered (shot in the head). My mom explained that Mrs. Young had gotten a phone call at 7:30 in the morning (1 day before) from Mrs. Colby who said that she had found Cremer’s jacket and to send him over to get it. As soon as I heard that I emphatically said that she did it. My mom got upset with me and asked why in the world I would say such a horrible thing and she told me not to say it again. She said that she had seen Mariann Colby at the Young’s house just the night before and that she was hugging Mrs. Young. She said that Mariann was heartbroken about this. But I would NOT back down and insisted that Mariann Colby did it. Then I told them all about the Halloween party, the tether ball incident with her and some other examples of her evil rage but no one in my family believed what I said. They all thought that I was exaggerating, which I did have a tendency to do at that age.

    My world was crushed when I learned the news. I went to see Beth early the next morning and stayed all day. I was at her house all day every day for more than a week and a half and my parents went over every evening to bring them supper and then to come back to just sit with them as other good friends did. Mrs. Young’s parents were there every day. Beth was the oldest child, then Cremer, MacKenzie who was 5, tow-headed and resembled Cremer closely and Alice who was 2y/o. I remember MacKenzie swinging on the swing talking to his baby sister who was asking where Cremer was. MacKenzie kept saying: “Cremie all gone, Cremie all gone”. Then MacKenzie would ask me where is Cremer? It was a heartbreaking. I remember the helicopter hovering over the neighborhood constantly and wondering if it was spooking Mrs. Colby. I remember the feeling of everyone being under suspicion, of the street being closed to traffic and the sewer being dredged for a weapon and finally of Nancy and John’s car pulling into their driveway the day Cremer’s autopsy was done as the neighbors kept vigil. I can still feel the inadequacy of that moment when there were no words to describe or express the pain I knew they were feeling. In my mind’s eye, the memory of that event draws me back to that summer in 1965 and those good people who suffered such an incomprehensible loss.

    I remembered that jacket of Cremer’s. He had gotten it for his 8th Bday in the spring and less than a week later he had lost it. Mr. Young was a real disciplinarian and Cremer had gotten into a lot of trouble for “losing his new jacket.” Actually, a few weeks after the murder, once the cops proved Colby murdered Cremer it came out that when Cremer had gone to Dane’s house in the spring to play that Mrs. Colby had confiscated his jacket. (Premeditation). I distinctly remember that Cremer was really upset when he “lost” his new jacket and that Beth and I had helped him look for it for days to no avail.

    Dane Colby was an only child and a “slow learner” (the lingo we used back in the 60’s) equivalent to borderline MR. Cremer was the only boy on the street and in the neighborhood that would play with Dane and he was such a good friend to Dane. My youngest brother was deaf and Cremer was his best friend and the reason that other kids came to accept him.

    Cremer was a gorgeous child inside and out. Dane was physically and mentally very awkward. He had repeated both kindergarten and first grade but even though he was chronologically older he was still a big boy for his age. If he lost at any game (which he often did) he became aggressive and would kick, punch, push, shove kids, pull your hair and pinch really hard too and I did not like him. Sometimes we would let him win so that he wouldn’t get mean. Many times he would kick us really hard out of the blue just because he didn’t get his way with something. Years later I realized that he must have been brutalized by his evil mother. I do remember that we could often hear her screaming at him for anything and everything (nothing) and the tirades were brutal. She would say horrible soul killing things to her own handicapped little boy.

    Mrs. Colby was very jealous of Cremer and Mrs. Young. Mrs. Young was a very warm friendly and popular young mom. She had gone out of her way to see that Dane was included but when the physically violent outbursts escalated she began to limit the time that Cremer played with Dane. Mrs. Colby made it known that she supported Dane hitting kids and said that “he was just sticking up for himself when kids bullied him” which was completely untrue. Dane was the bully not the other kids in the neighborhood.

    Robert Colby was a space engineer at TRW and worked very long hours and when he was home he spent almost all of his time locked up in his office in the attic working on patents that he was developing. He was a very quiet man and was probably up in the attic to get away from his crazy (like a fox) evil wife. He was also veryyyyyy passive. So much so that he seemed to fade into the background. But he was a nice man. Mr. Colby was a ham radio operator and this was a hobby of my eldest brother too who was using Morse code only. Mr. Colby often had him over to use his fancy voice-enabled rig.

    I did not know this next part of this story at the time of the murder but it came out a few weeks later once Mariann Colby was charged with Cremer’s murder. Some of these details were in the newspaper and some of them I overheard the Youngs telling my parents. In 1952, Mariann Colby was a 27-year-old woman who formed an obsessive and unrequited interest and attachment to an unmarried man, John Young. (Cremer’s future father) He had taken her out on one date and had no interest in seeing her again. She called him many times a week and was known to stalk him when he was on dates; she continued to pursue him aggressively and ignored that John did not and would not return her affection. Nothing could deter her conviction even after he bluntly rejected her advances at a dinner party and on several other occasions.

    Finally it got so bad that Mr. Young made an early morning telephone call to Robert Colby; he asked the complaisant husband to keep Mariann away from him, to step in and put an end to this unrequited love. He did. Colby was well aware of his wife’s “infatuation” as he called it, and asked her to end her pursuit and all seemed to be well. Mariann promised to comply with his request.

    Six years later, the Colby’s moved to a house just down the street from the now-married John Young. In retrospect I highly doubt that was a coincidence. Cremer and Dane became buddies. Over time, the Youngs came to disapprove of the two boys’ spending so much time together. Tension grew as Mariann wanted the boys to remain close friends.

    In April of 1965, Mariann Colby called Nancy Young to express belatedly her annoyance over being omitted from the guest list for the Youngs’ previous Christmas party; she also resented Nancy’s refusal to baby-sit for Dane. On a number of occasions Mariann slapped the Young children, adding to the tensions between the two families. Somehow Nancy Young was able to mollify Colby’s anger to a certain extent, but Mariann was convinced that John Young “hated” her and kept complaining to Nancy Young about this. She was furious to be once again rejected by him. I remember feeling totally shocked about learning this information.

    Marianne Colby had planned this murder for more than a year. In the Spring of 1964 she bought a sixty-year-old .32 caliber pistol and a box of fifty cartridges from a gun dealer in Medina, Ohio which was a rural county about 90 minutes south. She provided a false name, Mrs. Nancy Cutting, which was Mrs. Young’s maiden name. (Premeditation)

    When Mariann Colby called the Young’s that morning her description seemed to match Cremer’s lost favorite jacket, which he had picked out himself from a Sears Roebuck catalogue. Cremer was thrilled. When he did not return immediately both parents assumed that he had stayed to play with Dane.

    The Colby’s lived only one house away from the Young’s. Mrs. Young had a big bell hanging out by her back porch and at lunch time she would clang the bell for all the kids to come home for lunch. Cremer never showed up and Mrs. Young became concerned. She immediately called Mrs. Colby, who told her that Cremer had left her house within minutes of collecting his jacket. Mrs. Young was calling all around but no one had seen Cremer that day. Mr. Young came home from work. Several hours had passed since Cremer had left to get his jacket and both parents were now increasingly frantic. They called the Shaker Heights police. Mrs. Colby was the last person to see him and she claimed that he had collected his jacket and immediately left about 7:40AM.

    Mrs. Colby killed Cremer just moments after he had arrived to get his jacket. After she shot him in the back of the head, in front of Dane, to prevent incriminating bloodstains, she wrapped his body in a coat (later burnt) and placed a plastic tarp to cover the body in the station wagon. She drove, with Dane in the car; 10 miles farther east to a wooded area in Gates Mills, which at that time was a rural suburb. She carried his body two hundred yards before depositing him in a secluded spot. Returning home, she selected a hiding place for the murder weapon that was worthy of Alfred Hitchcock; she concealed the gun in three pounds of ground beef, wrapped in foil and labelled as ground beef, that she stored in the bottom of a basement deep freeze. After the murder she called the police several times to cast suspicion on many neighbours. Why do they always call the police?

    By the grace of God, later that day a college student was walking his dogs and came upon the body of a boy lying in the woods. A camp label on his sneakers identified the victim as “Cremer the Lion”. The Youngs’ little son had been found.

    I lived one street away and I was often at Beth’s house so I knew Mrs. Colby and I was very afraid of her and hated her. A few months before the murder a bunch of us were in her backyard playing tether ball with her son Dane. Marianne Colby came outside shrieking at all of us and began beating our legs and backs, arms and head with a big prickly broom. And she was whacking us really hard. That was just the latest example of her evil. Actually, she had seen us all playing in the Young’s backyard and had called Mrs. Young and requested that we come over to her yard to play with Dane.

    Two years previous to this, the Colby’s had a Halloween party for all the kids in the neighborhood. She decorated the basement as a haunted house and she dressed up as a witch. In those days parents did not dress up for Halloween. Right when you got down the stairs Mrs. Colby told us this was a game, and that you had to pass through this area that had an archway before the witch (Mrs. Colby) could get you. I watched my older sister do it and I was just wishing that there was another way to enter. When it was my turn Mrs. Colby grabbed my arm hard so I couldn’t move past her and threw a half sheet over my head and was holding it tighter and tighter against my face. It scared me and I screamed but she still did not let me go. My older sister came to my rescue. She did this to a few other kids too but none of us told our parents and I’m not sure why we didn’t.

    Other times when we rode our bikes down the street; she would try to make us crash by sticking a long pole in front of us at the last minute so that you wouldn’t see it coming. That behavior was bizarre enough for me and I had not wanted to play in her backyard but didn’t feel comfortable saying so. But after the broom incident I refused to ever go near her property again. I viewed her as real evil, like the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz, but instead of a fantasy she was my 1st introduction into real life evil. Her eyes were coal black and cold and empty.

    The police began to fixate on Colby about a week and a half after the murder. In early September, when suspicion focused on her, Mariann Colby gave the police and others conflicting versions of what had happened to Cremer. They had intensified the focus and number of interviews with her. The results of the lie detector test she agreed to led them to continue interviewing her for 5 more hours that day. She initially tried to pin the murder on Dane and claimed that it was an accident!

    She was crying and described how she had kept the gun hidden in the home since purchasing it the previous year. For some unexplained reason she loaded the gun and put it on a counter in the kitchen under some laundry. While in the dining room she heard a shot and found Dane with the gun in his hand and Cremer crumpled on a landing of the stairway. That version of the murder was in all the newspapers and the fear in the entire neighborhood went down several notches with everyone thinking it was a terrible accident. I never believed that Dane was responsible for the murder. I still blamed Mrs. Colby and I was vocal about it with my family and friends, including Beth. I got into a lot of trouble for my big mouth and embarrassing my mother by saying such things openly and often. Mr. and Mrs. Young, to their credit felt no bitterness toward the Colby’s at that point and told the media that they understood their neighbor’s tragedy as much as their own. Mrs. Colby kept up her bizarre visits to the Youngs and made sure to explain that Dane was having difficulty understanding all the grief and tears as he had no memory of the killing. My mother scolded me and said that she had watched Mariann Colby hug Nancy Young and cry with her and that she could never have done such a thing and still been able to hold Mrs. Young.

    I distinctly remember Dane asking a bunch of us kids or insinuating that we were all glad that Cremer was dead. I can remember thinking that was a very weird and a bizarre thing to say and that we all told him that he was completely wrong.

    Several days later the police were able to prove that Dane did not have the hand strength to have pulled the trigger on the gun. Tests of the obsolete weapon proved that Dane would not have had the strength to pull the trigger, which required about sixteen pounds of pressure. Confronted with this evidence, Colby finally admitted that it was she who had fired the gun but maintained that the killing was accidental. She said that when Cremer was playing alone on her basement landing she gathered some clothing and at the same time picked up the gun (which she had unaccountably placed under the laundry) causing the pistol to fire. She said “the gun just went off!” She was unable, however, to explain away the powder burns indicating that the gun was fired two inches from the back of Cremer’s head. Initially, the newspapers said it was just a terrible accident and that no charges were pending.

    She was arrested at the beginning of the next week. My whole family kept asking me how I knew that she was guilty and I had no better words to explain it other than I just knew. Beth and all the neighborhood kids also wanted to know why I had been sure that she had killed Cremer. I have no better explanation today then I had in 1965. I believe that my internal radar was somehow alerted to her evil. It was a self protective thing maybe?

    Before the police proved that Colby had done it I was so afraid that I would not even take a bath alone without my mom staying in the bathroom. It changed my life forever and I was just a kid on the periphery. I can only imagine the impact such trauma and tragedy has on a family. The murder of Cremer was the end of my innocence.

    I remember sleeping over at Beth’s house one Friday night about 2 months after the murder. I woke up in the middle of the night because I heard Mr. Young sobbing. It scared me but Beth explained that it happened a lot and then we heard the back door close. She told me that he walked for hours when this happened. This went on for many many months. I am ashamed to say that it got to the point 9 months later that I did not want to sleep over at her house anymore because I found it so painful to hear big strapping 6’4” Mr. Young sobbing uncontrollably over Cremer’s murder. Mrs. Young was 5 months pregnant when the murder occurred but she lost the baby in the beginning of the 7th month.

    At trial in March of 1966, before three judges empanelled after a jury was waived by Mrs. Colby, the prosecutor, although unable to cite a rational motive for the killing, sought to overcome the preferred defense of insanity by forging a chain of evidence establishing that a clever criminal mind was at work. He sought to persuade the judges that the shooting was premeditated and that Mrs. Colby had cunningly attempted to conceal her guilt and lead the police investigation along false trails. Mrs. Colby, the prosecutor showed, had first loaded the revolver and then called the Young home about the jacket Cremer had left. The shooting must have occurred shortly after Cremer’s arrival at the Colby house because a neighbour testified to having seen the Colbys’ blue station wagon backing out of their driveway before 8:00 a.m.; moreover, Mrs. Colby had shot Cremer at close range. He spoke about buying the gun and using Mrs. Young’s maiden name and hiding the weapon in the freezer.

    Mrs. Colby’s attorney, contested neither the killing by the defendant’s hand nor the fact that it had been intentional. He relied on the testimony of a clinical psychologist and two psychiatrists to confirm Mrs. Colby’s legal insanity under Ohio’s version of the M’Naghten Rules even though this formula the court admitted is “based on entirely obsolete and misleading conclusions of the nature of insanity.” The first expert, a clinical psychologist at Cleveland’s University Hospitals, diagnosed Mrs. Colby as a paranoid schizophrenic. The witness described Mrs. Colby’s sadistic interpretation of a Rorschach ink blot normally viewed as representing circus clowns or dogs: “I see two Scottie dogs; the foot and leg of one and the other are injured and bleeding. . . . Their noses are tied together with a rag, like some person did this deliberately to hurt them.”

    The next witness, a psychiatrist at University Hospitals, opined that the defendant could not distinguish between right and wrong at the time of the shooting. He concluded that her homicidal tendencies were of long standing and that when she purchased the gun, she did so with the intention of killing the ‘unmarried man who had rejected her advances’ all those years before and that it was temporary insanity. The second psychiatrist agreed with the first that it was temporary insanity.

    The state’s two experts were psychiatrists. The first pictured Mrs. Colby as aggressive, brutal and remorseless and suffering from a severe psychosis manifesting itself in confused thinking divorced from reality. Even the state’s expert witness provided substantial support for a finding of legal insanity. The second psychiatrist portrayed Mrs. Colby as a “borderline” person who swung between normal and psychotic behavior. He could not rule out the possibility that “disturbed thinking played a part in her [homicidal] act.”

    The presiding judge announced the court’s decision: not guilty by reason of insanity. In the decision, the three judges attacked the right-and-wrong insanity test of the M’Naghten Rules for restricting judicial consideration to the effects of mental illness on cognitive or intellectual faculties. The court admitted the M’Naghten Rules formula is “based on entirely obsolete and misleading conclusions of the nature of insanity.”

    In his closing argument Mrs. Colby’s counsel had argued that his client had “lost her battle not only in the court but against psychic disintegration.” He continued: “No matter what the court does, Mrs. Colby will be in institutions for a long, long time.” Counsel’s prediction, however, proved to be inaccurate; after confinement in the Lima State Hospital for the Criminally Insane for a little less than four years, Mrs. Colby was released.

    After the trial Mr. Colby divorced Mariann and moved away with Dane. I still have the Christmas Ornament that the Youngs made in Cremer’s memory. It’s the first ornament on the tree every year. I have been very angry for my whole life that Mariann Colby got off on a not guilty by reason of insanity. Bullshit. By the legal definition she definitely knew right from wrong and should never have been allowed to plead such a legal defense. A judge (paid off I am sure) made the decision to allow that plea. She was in Lima State Hospital for less than 4 years when she was released as “cured” of her mental illness. I have never trusted the justice system since. It is inconceivable that Mariann Colby virtually walked away from what I believe was a completely cold-blooded premeditated murder, serving less than four years in a state mental hospital. Where was justice on that infamous day?

    Here is a copy of a newspaper article that actually admits that the staff at Lima State Hospital never thought that she was insane.

    TUESDAY. OCTOBER 19, 1970
    Afraid of
    publicity’

    LIMA (AP) — The act-
    ing superintendent of Lima
    State hospital said Monday a
    woman has spent less than 4 years at
    the institution because the hospital
    was afraid of the publicity
    that would surround action to-
    ward her release,

    An Allen county court has
    taken under advisement the req-
    quest of Mariann Colby, 45, of
    Shaker Heights for release
    from Lima, where she was sent
    after being found innocent by
    reason of insanity of the murder
    of eight-year-old John Cremer Young,
    the son of a neighbor.

    Theodore Reshetylo, acting
    superintendent of the hospital
    and a psychiatrist, said hospital
    staff had never considered
    Mrs. Colby insane but would
    not start proceedings until now for her
    release because of the publicity
    surrounding the case.

  257. Janeto
    03/24/2013 at 3:15 pm

    Yeah, and another thing her little sister said, “she wasn’t under oath on those interviews”!! Like being under oath is gonna stop her from lying! HA HA!! Poster family for sterilization! Good one Syn….. Oh boy, she has a 2 year old! Heaven help that poor child! And I don’t think she can blame Travis’ family and friends for the name calling or threats….She doesn’t realize that people that don’t even know her sister want to string her up!!! Much less her entire family. Her sister (JA) is the one who brought this all on herself! I can’t even type her name, she disgusts me so much. She has made a mockery out of all kinds of abuses she claims! Those who really suffer all these “claims”, I’m sure feel just as disgusted in her! Yes she may have some “over compassionate” people believe her, but that just shows how naive and gullable they are! She’s got a ton of them fooled! But hopefully not this jury!!

  258. LadyInRed
    03/24/2013 at 3:23 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9_Qdm7-Oqg This Youtube is a visit by Nancy Grace into the jail with JA is housed for the trial … it’s worth the watch!

  259. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 3:47 pm

    Nancy B: again I did not heed a warning and read your story. How very sad and scary for you and now the community Mrs Colby now resides in. Possible she changed her name and now has a daughter named Jodi??? That would certainly show that it is a combination of nature AND nurture. Sorry, didn’t mean to make light of your experience but it is my nature to try and see humor in the most awful of situations (keeps me somewhat sane). Obviously you you were a very intuit child.

  260. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 3:59 pm

    Oh here we go again!!! I’m still trying to get caught up on the comments and I’m already laughing my head off!!!

    Syn

    Essem: I have watched it over and over and over.. I just love the look on Juan Baby’s face then how he just gives up and swivels around in his chair…. but the whole things is just freakin genius and beyond hilarious!!!
    On that not I am going to get on the tready and laugh my way through the pain thinking of it with tears in my eyes from the laughter.

    This IS genius!! LMAO!!!

    Syn Syn: flat out like a lizard drinking means she’s been really busy : think lizards tongue. Not sure by your response if you realise that or nto so just to let you know. Gotta look after my Canuck mate and teached her ridgy didge aussie slang.

    MMD – Thank ya darlin’ for the clarification – I figured she had been relaxing and drinking all day! My bad lol

    Syn well she may well have been busy drinking MMD!

    Way too funny you two!!

  261. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 4:06 pm

    Janeto

    Well Janet, I won’t hold it against you that you are from Texas!!!

    Oh Please!!!! I got a can of Whoop Ass bigger than yours though!! LOL!!!

    Good one! lmao! 🙂

  262. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 4:19 pm

    OMG NancyB what a trauma for you to endure as a 10 year old. I am so sorry you had to go through this and I can totally see how this would affect your entire life. At that age, during that time frame, you were conditioned to think adults were good and would always protect you. I can understand your rage that no one would listen to you. Thank you so much for sharing. It took courage and I know it would be therapeutic to write it all down.

    But what an intuitive and astute little 10 year old girl you were. Somehow or somewhere in your gut you knew that all was not what it seemed. And then to have no one pay any heed is just as bad but those were the way things were done in those days. People were not forthcoming about what was really going on behind closed doors and with a psychopath they were probably not totally aware. This was so far before the touchy feely times of today where every action is analyzed and dissected. I can understand the other children not saying anything either about what they witnessed. Some of them may have not even noticed or just though that was the norm for Mrs. Colby. They could have just thought she was a little odd or had been glad she wasn’t their mother.

    The mental health community was so less advanced than it is today and the term insane covered a truck load of disorders that had not yet been given a name. The police did not have the tools of today to see what you as a 10 year old could see. Even if they could see the evil they probably wouldn’t know how to even deal with it.

    You, the Youngs, the children and even Dane and his dad were let down by the norms of the day and society in general. Then for Mrs. Colby to be let out after 4 years is an absolute insult not only to the family of Cremer but to society as a whole. Even today, with all the advances that have been made in the field of mental health, so many lives are being lost because those who suffer are not being helped. Nothing happens until a tragedy occurs. People don’t recognize psychopaths because we cannot fathom in our mind that it is even possible that someone could think, let alone do harm to a helpless child, simply for being the son of a man who rejected her! I have no doubt that if the camera and the hand-print had not been found at TA’s that JA could very well have gone undetected. She is so able to explain away the forensic evidence. Without those solid pieces of evidence, a prosecutor might not even want to proceed with the case.

    I can relate to hearing Mr. Young cry and how you felt. My dad had been very ill for a couple of years and we were flying to Boston to Lahey clinic in Boston to some specialists. He had had numerous surgeries and this was to try for something new. Well, the flight bounced around for hours back and forth to different airports in Atlantic Canada because of fog until much later when we were finally able to fly into Boston. My dad, who I worshiped was in agonizing pain with all the delay and it was the first time I ever saw a grown man cry. Dads were supposed to always be strong and protect you. I was exactly 10 years old. To this day it still haunts me!

    I so wish that I could give you a hug right now. To have lived with what happened and the trauma you incurred I would never trust the justice system again either. In those days it would be unheard of to get help for a child that was hurting like you were. For that matter, even your parents probably would not have realized the deep affect this murder had on you. I hope that you have had some therapy yourself over the years as I would imagine this would affect every aspect of your life from then until now.

    I know that I am writing a book here but your story has hit such a deep spot within me. Over the years I have watched guilty people go free and innocent people irrevocably broken by some of the crimes that have happened. To see Mrs. Colby set free to do as she pleased as if nothing had happened must have scarred you so much! It is as if Cremer’s didn’t matter.

    I hope that we as a group are able to help you and to provide you with any support that you need, if you want it. We as a group are a great sounding board. I feel privileged that you felt secure and safe enough to tell your story to us. I truly hope it helped.

    I am sending so many hugs {{{{{{{{ }}}}}}}}} your way. I hope they help!!!!! You were a very brave 10 year old little girl and it took guts to tell this. I’m very proud of you. Kudos to you!!!! 🙂

    I really hope this makes sense.

  263. 03/24/2013 at 4:21 pm

    Nancy B

    You, my dear lady were and are incredibly strong. It is your truth and belief in yourself that shines out of this horrific ordeal.

    Your depth of character is amazing evidenced by the fact you stood up for what you knew was true in the face of ridicule and disbelief. You stood up for what you felt even though you suffered for it.

    “I believe that my internal radar was somehow alerted to her evil. It was a self protective thing maybe?”

    No maybe that is absolutely true. Read anything about these people and the ONLY advise that rings through on all of it and remains the same each and every time is : “Trust your instincts” Which you did. That is not coincidence and for most people it is too hard to do they rather disregard what they feel to be true and quickly follow the crowd like sheep.

    Your experience is terrifying and I wish it had not been mae part of your life. However to be able to trust yourself through it all and in the end be validated is amazing. Many do not receive this validation. You won. In the face of overwhelming adversity and heartache you stood tall. Be proud of yourself for that, you did right by Cremer.

    The injustice comes when she was deemed insane. Back in the 60s not as much was known about this disorder and people with it were xonsidered insane by most. Like so much these thing have chanfged tremendously in just the last 20 even 10 years.

    Hervey Milton Cleckley 1903-1984 authored “The Mask of Sanity” first edition 1941 (it is still referenced today along with Dr Robert Hare’s new work). In it he penned:

    “This group, plainly marked off from the psychotic by current psychiatric standards, does not find a categorical haven among the psychoneurotic, who are distinguished by many medical characteristics from the people to be discussed in this volume. They are also distinguished practically by their ability to adjust without major difficulties in the social group.
    Who, then, are these relatively unclassified people? And what is the nature of their disorder? The pages which follow will be devoted to an attempt to answer these questions.”

    In other words they simply did not know what to do with psychopaths because there was no real classification for them This is the importance of Dr Robert Hare’s PCL-R it is the first time in history there has ever been a way to not only diagnose the condition but scale it as well.

    Do not feel badly she was found innocent by insanity. That was out of ignorance. It is what people like myself are trying to change even today. To raise awareness of what the condition really is. Dr Hare has devoted his life to it. Basically we do it for people like you. So others recognise them too not just the few who have to go through psychological and emotional hell trying to be heard. They ruin too many lives, the ignorance has to end.

  264. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 4:22 pm

    correction – Cremer’s life didn’t matter.

  265. 03/24/2013 at 4:28 pm

    Hi Tracey!! *waves* 😀

  266. LadyInRed
    03/24/2013 at 4:32 pm

    To Nancy, MMB and Syntara …. what a profound series of posts, and I send best wishes to all.

  267. NancyB
    03/24/2013 at 4:33 pm

    How in the world is she getting these sketches out of court and onto Ebay??? Makes me sick that she’s trying to sell sketches of Juan!

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html;jsessionid=5C9E4E7FFBACB92F9A5955183615FA99?_nkw=Jodi%20Arias%20Jail%20ID%20Actual%20ID%20Bracelet%20worn%20by%20Jodi&_itemId=321094959719

  268. 03/24/2013 at 4:41 pm

    That’s what she’s been busily doing. The other day I saw her shading in something and I thought ” she’s not writing she’s sketching! ”

    That’s disgusting. She is on trial for slashing someones throat to almost near decapitation and she sits in the proceedings sketching for ebay sales????

    That judge needs to get some order in that court is she not in charge not Jodi Arias?

  269. 03/24/2013 at 4:42 pm

    Is she charging extra cos it’s been near her arse by the way?

  270. 03/24/2013 at 4:42 pm

    Best wishes back @ ya LIR 😀

  271. 03/24/2013 at 4:44 pm

    She needs to be handcuffed at that defense table no ifs or buts..DO IT

  272. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Robert in Rotterdam Love, love, love the vid of “The is Juan”. !!!!!! That was awesome.

  273. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 4:48 pm

    Syn OMG even the I love Jodi shirt… whoever did this sis soooo good! ahaha even the pooping pants a la the next day the baby poo brown suit rofl!! Hope someone emails it to Juan baby that is sooooooo cool!!! He’d love it I reckon.

    The “I Love Jodi” shirt….lmao! Way too funny!!

  274. 03/24/2013 at 4:52 pm

    Good afternoon all, it’s 7.15am and I’m quickly reading the overnight posts. OMG everyone has been so busy. Syn can’t believe you have been up ALL night. Glad you reposted that vid, thought it might have been missed when I got the MSG late last night a new thread was going to start. TOO funny. So now I’m off to work so will catch up on my home way.

  275. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Ok, I’m finally caught up. Whew!

    Nancy B I am so terribly sorry for what you went through. And grateful that you felt trusting enough to share that with us. I simply cannot express my feelings for you any better than Syntara or MMD. I’m hoping it was cathartic for you to share your this horrible experience. Sending you {{{{{big hugs}}}}}}

  276. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 5:10 pm

    Syntara: ****waves***** back at ya Girl! Glad to hear you got some much needed rest. Gotta be refreshed for trial tomorrow.

    MMD: How are you today, Ma’am??? Sorry you’re still not sleeping well.

    ****waving**** to all!!

  277. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 5:26 pm

    Have been trying to fine information on JM but is hard to come by anything about his personal life. I did find this page that has quite a lot of history of some of his trials, mostly winners. So take a look if you haven’t already seen….

  278. LadyInRed
    03/24/2013 at 5:34 pm

    LadyInRed :


    This Youtube is a visit by Nancy Grace into the jail with JA is housed for the trial … it’s worth the watch!

    Despite the food, looks like her daily routine is pretty much miserable … as it should be. Let’s hope this routine continues for many, many years to come after her conviction!

  279. 03/24/2013 at 5:37 pm

    Just ask me… I’ll ask him for you. Marilyn

  280. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 5:42 pm

    OK, Syn. How old is he??

  281. 03/24/2013 at 5:43 pm

    He doesn’t like to talk about that

  282. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 5:47 pm

    Syntara :
    Just ask me… I’ll ask him for you. Marilyn

    And you talk about me being delusional!!!

  283. 03/24/2013 at 5:48 pm

    I reckon every article that says “she admitted killing him should have (eventually) after it cos that’s misleading otherwise. Not that misleading matters to the pressa nymore but hey.. let’s not let fact get in the way of idealism here

  284. 03/24/2013 at 5:49 pm

    shutup you.. thought you were gone anyhow. How’d you pop up?

  285. 03/24/2013 at 5:50 pm

    doesn’t matter how old he is anyhow… cos once he’s with me he’ll look 20 years younger!

  286. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 5:50 pm

    Just had to watch “The Heat is Juan” video again. That’s just so awesome!!!

  287. 03/24/2013 at 5:52 pm

    I mirrored mine onto my big tv screen and danced to it … why? Cos I can!! so 😛

  288. 03/24/2013 at 5:53 pm

    I love the one Essem posted too that’s absolutely hilarious and so well edited.

  289. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 5:54 pm

    I know this is long, but it is well worth reading from Katiecoolady:

    #1270
    Yesterday, 12:39 PM

    katiecoolady
    Verified Bad Ass

    Join Date: Oct 2004
    Posts: 4,772
    Warning: Long
    I’m going to share a piece of why I sit in the courtroom with the family offering support. For those who haven’t seen it, this is a Victim Impact Statement I wrote in 2009 after one of my sister’s killers was released from Death Row on a mental retardation claim. So it makes more sense, this hearing for this MR issue (for both of them, not just the one who got it, it was argued for BOTH) lasted 7 years and I’m told cost taxpayers around 10 million dollars. It was decided by ONE Judge who was retiring right after this hearing..actually stayed on just to complete it. She was a known DP opponent and imo, just wanted to go out with letting one person off death row which she did. We tried to get her thrown off due to her multiple expressions of obvious bias thru the AZ Supreme Court but it didn’t happen. There’s so much more to it but this one part that you will see edited in, speaks to why I do what I do for the Alexander family.

    By the way, I was not intending to go give this statement but my attorney contacted me the night before asking if I was going and I said no and she texted back “I think you should be there” so I was up til 2am writing this thing and drove 30 miles alone to read it. These are the reasons Ricki Lake called me a “bad ass”.

    I’m editing it here to add a little improvisation I did while reading it in court. By the way I had to see him (the killer) for the first time in 18 years and had no idea he would be there. I walked in and sat down and started uncontrollably shaking from head to toe. They kept asking me to slow down as I was reading so fast and shaking. Here it is:

    Why have I chosen to take time out of my busy schedule once again to drive to Florence to give this impact statement? I ask myself the same question as I honestly don’t think anything I have to say will make much difference or cause much impact toward the decision on resentencing this defendant but the question always is “can I live with myself if certain decisions are made and know I’ve said nothing?

    So, here I am with a few things to say.

    I don’t intend to get in to the impact this crime itself has had on me personally or on my family. Partly because I don’t think it’s necessary at this stage and partly because I think it could potentially do more harm than good. I’ll let you fill in the blanks on how losing your only
    sister/ your oldest daughter on the day before Christmas impacts on a family. To a vicious senseless murder for money.

    I will tell you the impact of this particular hearing and decision over the last several years has had and has the potential to have on me and my family.

    When the men who murdered my sister in this cold blooded plot were sentenced to death, we were told there were two options in the State of AZ — Life with the possibility of parole in 25 years and Death which meant they would never get out of prison. Of course, no matter how we might have felt politically about the death penalty, we knew these were young men and would still be as violent and dangerous in 25 years, perhaps more so and the Death Penalty was the only sentence that insured the public’s and our safety from them forever. We were
    warned that in time, the tables would turn, the victim would be forgotten and the murderers would be seen as victims. Well that time has come, over 20 years after the loss of my sister. It’s still hard to fathom but it’s the absolute reality now.

    I am here to remind the court who the true victim of this crime was, and still is. It was my sister Cindy who was my only sister, fourteen months older than me, whose life was taken for one motive: money. On the day before we were to fly home for Christmas on Christmas eve 1988. I was 29 years old and she was 30. We grew up together with each other to lean on as we lost our mother at a very young age. She was kind and truly an innocent and the defense in both trials could produce no evidence about her in a derogatory way — there simply was none. She was like a lamb to slaughter with the men who murdered her — Rudi and Michael Apelt.

    The victim was not and still is not the man, Rudi Apelt, who is being resentenced today. The man who wielded the knife that slashed Cindy’s throat from ear to ear leaving her to be discovered by a young boy in the desert on Christmas Eve.. Rudi Apelt, who has served another prison sentence for a violent rape of another woman in Germany. Rudi Apelt
    who conned many women throughout the Phoenix area during the months prior to the murder of my sister for money, use of their car, a living situation in their home, procurement of goods, all of these actions performed ALONE and not in the presence of his brother or any other familiar person to him. All of these facts are clearly documented in the trial transcripts. He is a violent man, a repeat offender and took the life of my sister for money. I do not believe he demonstrates any signs of mental retardation in the commission of this crime–quite
    the contrary, in fact. Sophisticated, calculated and cold-blooded homicide are not adjectives I would ascribe to the mentally retarded.

    I am here also to tell you the impact that just this one hearing lasting several years has had on my family. My 78-year-old father was required to testify and cancel a prepaid trip to China because the Court would not consider a 2-week postponement of the original hearing
    for this which he was required to testify at. This postponement was the one and only thing my family ever asked of this Court in the many YEARS leading up to this hearing and it was not granted. This was perhaps my father’s only opportunity to go to China for the rest of his lfe.
    Yet the defense in this case was granted delay after delay over a period of years causing me and my family to be inconvenienced, put plans on hold, prepare ourselves emotionally only to be told yet another delay for the defense for years upon years.

    I opened my door one December day, 3 years go, ironically the same day I was planning to decorate my house for Christmas which you can imagine what a task that is for me year after year seeing my sister’s bloody body was discovered in the desert on Christmas Eve morning, only to find an advocate for Rudi Apelt misrepresenting herself to me and asking for my cooperation with this very issue–the mental retardation hearing. And this advocate bald-faced lied to me in my own home assuring me that this murderer, if reversed in sentence, would be
    resentenced to life WITHOUT parole. Yes of course she knew this was impossible due to sentencing guidelines yet chose to manipulate me in this way. What did I or my family ever do to deserve this kind of treatment? Laws have been changed now to disallow the abuse of victims in this manner in the State of AZ because of this heinous situation I endured.

    My father and I endured sitting in a courtroom often being the only representatives on the side of the State while onlookers filled the side of the defendant (I then looked up and saw that EXACT SCENE in this courtroom and said “just like I am seeing here right now” and swept my hand across in a little gesture) hoping obviously to glean some kind of clues for arguing their murderer clients were also mentally retarded to avoid the ultimate penalty.

    I have personally learned that in addition to the tides of sympathy swinging away from the murder victim to the murderer over the years that the “worst of the worst” in our society, once on Death Row, receive the “best of the best” when it comes to legal assistance. I am
    convinced that a death row inmate has a greater chance of being released from prison than a “lifer” serving a term for a nonviolent crime, simply because more people care about those on Death Row. The murderers also receive free websites which read like singles ads soliciting donations, penpals, wives and the like. When the “serial shooter” claimed to desire the death penalty in his sentencing hearing this year, I completely understood what was motivating him — and it most certainly wasn’t a possibility of execution.

    My one consolation with this preposterous ruling/resentencing is that finally Rudi Apelt will receive what he deserves. Which is to be forgotten, finally. I have no doubt that those helping so fervently over the years will drop him like a hot potato once he no longer holds the prestige of Death Row status and he will fade in to the woodwork with all the other violent common criminals in the general population. Until of course we are asked to appear at parole hearings. Then we will be forced to remember him and his violence once again. When do we ever
    get to let this go? Do we? (I looked up directly at the defense attorney when I said those last questions).

    Finally, I did not come all the way down here with any delusions that my words would have any true impact whatsoever on the outcome of this hearing. Biases have been shown throughout and I hold no fantasies that my family’s feelings and wishes will fall in to consideration. Yet let it be known, we all have a certain degree of terror at the thought of
    Rudi Apelt ever being released from prison due to a possible switch to concurrent sentences where he could have the possibility of actually being paroled. Yes that terrifies my family and me personally. This again is the man who took my sister in to the desert, and among other
    violent acts, slit her throat. Then enjoyed a celebratory meal with his co-murderer/conspirators at a restaurant using her credit card right after commiting the murder. Call it what you want, but I call that nothing but a DANGER TO SOCIETY. His sentences, at the very least,
    need to remain CONSECUTIVE to protect society from his violence. Call him mentally retarded, call him an imbecile, call him an idiot savant, whatever you wish. But call his behavior what it has been: VIOLENT and DANGEROUS.

    The reason I did come though is in hopes that down the road, whatever decision is reached as a result of this resentencing hearing is REVIEWED by hopefully a non biased individual who has no political agenda at stake. Then that a sound decision will be made then that will prohibit this dangerous individual Rudi Apelt from ever being released from prison again. And to allow me and my family to finally move forward without ever having to worry about him again. And to hopefully get to begin to live a life where we get to focus on remembering my sister’s life and not her violent death.

    After my reading this the Judge sentenced him to consecutive vs. concurrent 25 to Life sentences (see this “mentally retarded” man is also convicted of CONSPIRACY to commit first degree murder w/ it’s own sentence, thank God, other wise he’d be up for parole next year). Our AG told me that he thought that was primarily because of this Impact Statement.
    __________________
    You went too far the minute you grasped that straw that had the

  290. 03/24/2013 at 5:55 pm

    I just watched it again.. how the judge say thankyou so relieved at the end it hilarious

  291. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 5:56 pm

    MMD :

    Syntara :
    Just ask me… I’ll ask him for you. Marilyn

    And you talk about me being delusional!!!

    Simmer down, you two!!!

  292. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 5:56 pm

    Syn He doesn’t like to talk about that WTF????!!!!!!!

    MMD And you talk about me being delusional!!! ROFL!!!!!

    Syn shutup you.. thought you were gone anyhow. How’d you pop up? Funny how she does that whenever Juan is mentioned!!!

  293. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 6:00 pm

    Syn – I’ve watched Essem’s video so many times now that I have no tears of laughter left…too dehydrated!! Whomever put that one together is a friggin’ Genius! I love the end when you hear “Just SHUTUP…” how many times have we all screamed that at our TV’s??!!!

  294. 03/24/2013 at 6:02 pm

    what is it with throat slitting over there? smh in disbelief

  295. 03/24/2013 at 6:04 pm

    I love the attorney reactions eve wormy’s and the judges… it’s all just freaking hilarious because that crap was so ridiculous and we all had to listen to.. at the time I was screaming ffs who cares???? at my tv and hit the fast forward cos it was youtube version

  296. 03/24/2013 at 6:08 pm

    Tracey A :
    Syn He doesn’t like to talk about that WTF????!!!!!!!
    MMD And you talk about me being delusional!!! ROFL!!!!!
    Syn shutup you.. thought you were gone anyhow. How’d you pop up? Funny how she does that whenever Juan is mentioned!!!

    Exactly Tracy! it is isn’t it?

  297. 03/24/2013 at 6:08 pm

    Soz Tracey*

  298. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 6:22 pm

    Syn what is it with throat slitting over there? smh in disbelief

    Oh how I wish I had an answer for that. Seems to me that I’ve read on numerous occasions that typically female killers don’t typically use knives. That’s one of the many things that haunts me about JA…she only shot him one time and that (I believe) was at the end!!! She showed up with the PREMEDITATED INTENTION to stab him to death. That is just so chilling and disturbing!

  299. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 6:22 pm

    Syntara :
    < smh in disbelief

    Glad to see you’re using my expression!!! lol smh at thief 😉

  300. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 6:23 pm

    MMD – Lol!

  301. 03/24/2013 at 6:27 pm

    pff I used it immediately after you told me and have done so several times since! Pay attention would you…. sound famiiar girlie???

  302. 03/24/2013 at 6:29 pm

    Tracey there are many chilling things about this. She is just evil and I rarely use that word but in this case it really is true. She is a consummate liar with no soul.

  303. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 6:30 pm

    Watching my man! Enjoy!

  304. 03/24/2013 at 6:32 pm

    what is willmot doing i the background on that still? praying? that aint gonna help she should look the opposite direction on this one

  305. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 6:32 pm

    Syn – I would say she’s diabolical.

  306. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 6:33 pm

    and NO WEDDING RING! 🙂

  307. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 6:38 pm

    I’d say she’s looking to the Heavens and asking “How the hell did I ever end up on this case???” Or she’s just as bored as we are listening to Wurmi drone on and on and on and (well you get it)

  308. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 6:38 pm

    Syntara :
    what is willmot doing i the background on that still? praying? that aint gonna help she should look the opposite direction on this one

    ROFL Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  309. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 6:39 pm

    MMD – I have NEVER seen him wearing a wedding ring and I’ve looked for one too!

  310. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 6:54 pm

    Gussy1 and the Anatomy of a Pyramid – Can we say that Gus1, Gus2 and JA all speak the same language?????

  311. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 6:56 pm

    Tracey – Neither have I but hours ago someone said that he wore one and I said – no but that the ME did! Syn backed me up on that one – cause we were both checking! 😉

  312. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 6:59 pm

    MMD – I, as well, noted that the very hot ME was wearing one! ;(

  313. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:04 pm

    Oh Man! I need a shower after watching that slimeball Searcy. He’s so disgusting. And that proposal vid…YUCK! I don’t know what those people were laughing at…he’s so NOT funny. Boy, what a lucky lady that chick must be!

  314. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:05 pm

    Tracey – didn’t you put dibs on the ME?????????? It was so long ago I can’t remember!

  315. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 7:10 pm

    Breaking News!!! JM has removed his ring becus he has read the posts and has an interest in MMD. I understand it is due to her red flannel nightie. Sooo hot !!!

  316. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:16 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    Breaking News!!! JM has removed his ring becus he has read the posts and has an interest in MMD. I understand it is due to her red flannel nightie. Sooo hot !!!

    I knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahahahahahahahaha and it’s red plaid – even sexier 😉 Put that in your pipe and smoke it Syn!!! ROFL

  317. 03/24/2013 at 7:20 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    Breaking News!!! JM has removed his ring becus he has read the posts and has an interest in MMD. I understand it is due to her red flannel nightie. Sooo hot !!!

    Come on b serious! He’s got better taste than that! Plus he loves Aussie accents.

  318. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 7:23 pm

    Oh crap. I thought this was a NoSmoking site. My mistake !

  319. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:24 pm

    MMD – Nah! I saw his wedding ring and gave up. Then I saw Juan had no ring and went “Bingo”! Mind ya, I missed opening statements and only saw clips of the ME’s testimony.

  320. 03/24/2013 at 7:24 pm

    Tracey A :
    Syn – I would say she’s diabolical.

    I have graduated from diabolical, for me she left that behind long ago Tracey

  321. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:25 pm

    Nancy Pennington – ROFL!

    MMD – Way to rock that flannel nightie. LMAO!!!

  322. 03/24/2013 at 7:27 pm

    I thought the guy who did them camera stuff was nice looking too.

  323. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:27 pm

    Syn – Come on b serious! He’s got better taste than that! Plus he loves Aussie accents. Here come the tears of laughter again!

  324. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:28 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    Oh crap. I thought this was a NoSmoking site. My mistake !

    ROFL 😉

  325. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 7:28 pm

    Syntara. Don’t be ridiculous, he can’t READ your accent but he can visualize that “redhot PLAID flannel nightie'” just saying!

  326. 03/24/2013 at 7:28 pm

    MMD I reckon this is fair.. you can have Wormy Gus and Dodgy and I’ll Take Juan Baby

    You get 3 for the price of 1… bargain!

  327. 03/24/2013 at 7:30 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    Syntara. Don’t be ridiculous, he can’t READ your accent but he can visualize that “redhot PLAID flannel nightie’” just saying!

    No but he reckons the phone sex is grest!

  328. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:31 pm

    Hey -I’ve got one hell of a good Maritime accent – eh by! He can’t understand the people from OZ! They’re too far under 🙂

  329. 03/24/2013 at 7:32 pm

    Hey I’ve got the tapes to prove it… I aint watched this trial for naught ya know!

  330. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:33 pm

    Plus we Canucks are soooooooooooooooo polite and friendly. That’s why some Americans put the Canuck flag on their backpacks or luggage in Europe. We can tell you off but be sooooooooo damn nice and polite about it!

  331. 03/24/2013 at 7:34 pm

    Gonna sell em on ebay and make a fortune.. women can have their voices inserted where mine is and play it in their ipods when they go jogging.

  332. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:35 pm

    ROFLMAO!! OMG! Way too funny!! I gonna spend another day with my sides hurting from laughing so hard.

  333. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:35 pm

    He’s tired of phone sex – he’s been listening to the JA calls and is just soooooooo over it. He’s into flannel now!

  334. 03/24/2013 at 7:36 pm

    Not some all and not just in Europe everywhere cos most of the world hates yanks and loves Canucks Ive met quite a number of yanks trying to pass themselves off as Canucks in my travels but you c an always out em.

  335. 03/24/2013 at 7:36 pm

    Some guide books even tell em to put that maple leaf on.

  336. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:37 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD I reckon this is fair.. you can have Wormy Gus and Dodgy and I’ll Take Juan Baby
    You get 3 for the price of 1… bargain!

    Just saw this – ain’t happening darlin’ but nice try!

  337. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:37 pm

    Syn & MMD – If Syn throws in a case of “Herp Lip” that could be a hell of deal!!!!

  338. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:39 pm

    Yeah I heard she’s got the herp lip so he wouldn’t be interested. Besides, she’s always down that darn rabbit hole!

  339. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:39 pm

    MMD – He’s tired of phone sex – he’s been listening to the JA calls and is just soooooooo over it. He’s into flannel now!

    Oh SNAP! Good one!

  340. 03/24/2013 at 7:39 pm

    Tracey A :
    Syn & MMD – If Syn throws in a case of “Herp Lip” that could be a hell of deal!!!!

    Rofl it’s done..it’s in there ya go MMD how can you pass that up?

  341. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 7:40 pm

    MMD: the reason we put the Canadian flag on our luggage is because there are so many countries that hate Americans we pretend to not be. We just watched “Argo” which brought it all back.

  342. 03/24/2013 at 7:41 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – He’s tired of phone sex – he’s been listening to the JA calls and is just soooooooo over it. He’s into flannel now!
    Oh SNAP! Good one!

    Can’t mistake my sexy accented voices for hers… believe me she’s no comparison.

  343. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:41 pm

    Syntara :
    Not some all and not just in Europe everywhere cos most of the world hates yanks and loves Canucks Ive met quite a number of yanks trying to pass themselves off as Canucks in my travels but you c an always out em.

    But because I’m a Canuck I would NEVER be sooooooooooooooo RUDE as to say that! After all, I’m respectful of our American host and my peeps!!!!!! 😉

  344. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:43 pm

    Syn Not some all and not just in Europe everywhere cos most of the world hates yanks and loves Canucks Ive met quite a number of yanks trying to pass themselves off as Canucks in my travels but you c an always out em.

    Hey now! Don’t make me get out my can of WupAss!!!!

  345. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:44 pm

    Instead of reading Victoria’s Secret catalogues JM reads L.L. Bean so he knows what he would be getting into 🙂 and he likes it!!!

  346. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:45 pm

    Now see what you started Syn – an international incident. Time for you to go to bed!!!

  347. 03/24/2013 at 7:45 pm

    haha Trace I ain’t kidding Ive seen it

  348. 03/24/2013 at 7:46 pm

    But you have to admit the Canadian flag is pretty good, so easy to identify too

  349. Nancy Pennington
    03/24/2013 at 7:48 pm

    OK Syn &MMD : aren’t one of you supposed to be asleep?? Can’t keep up with you both at the same time. My head spins like Linda Blair minus the green goop of course.

  350. 03/24/2013 at 7:48 pm

    pff victoria secret pffffffft JM knows Synful secrets are way betterer

  351. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:48 pm

    MMD – Instead of reading Victoria’s Secret catalogues JM reads L.L. Bean so he knows what he would be getting into 🙂 and he likes it!!!

    You go Girl! Syn’s being awful mean!!! She’s obviously insanely jealous at this point and is lashing out!!!

  352. 03/24/2013 at 7:50 pm

    Nancy Pennington :
    OK Syn &MMD : aren’t one of you supposed to be asleep?? Can’t keep up with you both at the same time. My head spins like Linda Blair minus the green goop of course.

    LOL nice picture on that! Thanks Nancy P

  353. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 7:50 pm

    Good-day u all! I have a question.
    Did any of Travis’s journals ever turn up or did they disappear long before the murder? I believe that if JA took them then she STILL has them ,most likely hidden somewhere safe thinking she would be able to retrieve when she lied her way out of this murder charge.
    I would have thought that Travis would have kept journals for a long time and ALL were
    gone!!! How Odd!
    I saw the site from Micheals about trying to find the gun and the road map. What a feat that would be! Why can’t someone with a bad bladder pull over somewhere on Jodi’s route that’s nowhere and”oh goodness, lookey lookey a gun”!! Oh and a .25 caliber too!! I Know it’s dam wishful thinking isn’t it? That’s what the Okanagan Sunshine will do. The Snow is Gone and Spring is here! Love and best wishes to the Alexander family. Justice will prevail!!

  354. 03/24/2013 at 7:50 pm

    Tracey A :
    MMD – Instead of reading Victoria’s Secret catalogues JM reads L.L. Bean so he knows what he would be getting into and he likes it!!!
    You go Girl! Syn’s being awful mean!!! She’s obviously insanely jealous at this point and is lashing out!!!

    LOL lashing out??? haha how so?

  355. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:51 pm

    It’s not just the flag darlin’, it’s the people and the attitude! It all goes together. We are peace lovin peeps known around the world for peace keeping!!! FACT! (the peace keeping part anyway) All Canucks aren’t nice and I try to pretend that Quebec doesn’t even exist! There’s always some bad apples everywhere!

  356. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:52 pm

    Syn haha Trace I ain’t kidding Ive seen it

    Oh I have no doubt about that. Seems everyone wants to take us down. But we are a very proud people. So don’t be hating on me cuz I’m American. Still luv ya though! 😉

  357. 03/24/2013 at 7:52 pm

    Trial Watcher Why can’t someone with a bad bladder pull over somewhere on Jodi’s route that’s nowhere and”oh goodness, lookey lookey a gun”!! Oh and a .25 caliber too!! I Know it’s dam wishful thinking isn’t it

    Oh I know! I thought about that too as being a great happenstance.

  358. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:53 pm

    Hey Trial Watcher – another polite Canuck 🙂

  359. 03/24/2013 at 7:54 pm

    Tracey A :
    Syn haha Trace I ain’t kidding Ive seen it
    Oh I have no doubt about that. Seems everyone wants to take us down. But we are a very proud people. So don’t be hating on me cuz I’m American. Still luv ya though!

    me not hating anyone just saying it happens

  360. 03/24/2013 at 7:56 pm

    .. and no no journals have turned up Trial Watcher.. general consensus is Matt knows something about them that Jodi doesn’t want him saying.

  361. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 7:56 pm

    Syn – It’s all good! 🙂

  362. SCK
    03/24/2013 at 7:58 pm

    My apologies if this has already been said somewhere in this blog – I don’t have time to read everything to be sure. As far as the gun goes, I have driven that road that crosses over Hoover Dam more times than I can count. I guarantee if she didn’t want that gun found she could have so easily stopped on the Dam and tossed the gun into either Lake Mead or the Colorado River – depending upon which side of the dam she chose. There would be no reason for her to worry about her car being inspected at the Security Checkpoint because they only looked through the beds of pick up trucks, moving vans that were enclosed and semi-trucks. Cars were almost 100% of the time just waved through. And certainly a young woman would never have looked like a threat to national security. Just my two cents worth.

  363. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 7:58 pm

    Tracey A :
    Syn haha Trace I ain’t kidding Ive seen it
    Oh I have no doubt about that. Seems everyone wants to take us down. But we are a very proud people. So don’t be hating on me cuz I’m American. Still luv ya though!

    Syn – me not hating anyone just saying it happens

    She’s right it happens but we’re not doing any hating. It’s just a fact of life like people in France are known to be rude!

  364. 03/24/2013 at 7:58 pm

    I would have thought thought that Det Flores would have taken some woop arse and grilled that boy every which way to sunday to try to get what he knows out of him. So it’s all confusing around that little tryst

  365. 03/24/2013 at 8:00 pm

    MMD Re French

    They sure can be! One swore at me in Thailand for nothing…so I pretended to be a kiwi and mentioned the rainbow warrior and thst shut em up!

  366. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:01 pm

    SCK – I agree that it’s in the Hoover dam. Since she said it’s in the desert you can be guaranteed that is the one place it’s not! Plus she would need a place where it would never be found so a dumpster along the way would never do.

  367. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 8:02 pm

    MARILYN:
    Thank You ever so much for the post on the Verified Bad Ass! OMG What an eye opener!
    I’ve never read anything quite like it . it is something that no family should have to bear
    and yet each and every year many go through similar situations. The DP has been abolished in Canada but in some cases it is the only solution to a Verified Bad Ass!

  368. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:02 pm

    Yeah Syn – that’s why I figure if Quebec wants to go be part of France just let them. If not, I just pretend they’re not there!!

  369. 03/24/2013 at 8:03 pm

    I think that investigation went by where she stopped to make the phone calls and how much gas she had. I’m sure they had good reasons to think it wasn’t in the damn cos otherwise why go to all that trouble?

    They obviously drove the route she took.

  370. 03/24/2013 at 8:07 pm

    it would be great if it was found but really come on it’s pretty darn obvious it’s the gun. Like all her lies and coverups.. not hard to see through once you’ve wised up to her MO

  371. 03/24/2013 at 8:08 pm

    Hey… Im still curious… when did you all realise he was asleep in that nekked pic?

  372. 03/24/2013 at 8:09 pm

    Trace did you know he was?

  373. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:10 pm

    Syn – You brought that to my attention re: TA being asleep. I didn’t realize it until you pointed it out and I went back and looked.

  374. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:11 pm

    Syn – No, not till you pointed it out. Pretty astute observation there lady!

  375. 03/24/2013 at 8:15 pm

    Hmmm I still feel like theres more pics cos I watched the pic day again and he talks about more pics with the bottle in it after those but they were the thumbnail only ones so apparently they are blurred bu according to what he steps through the ones that we wont mention were on the memory stick at a time PRIOR to the sleeping Travis so that being the case she MUST have se those up herself.

    Sorry but “diabolical” has long since left the building on this one.

  376. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 8:15 pm

    The gun may very well be in the Hoover Dam, she wouldn’t want to take the chance of
    it turning up because we all know it was grandpas .25 cal. BUT on June 4th when she did whatever she did with the gun she was in her FOG so did she throw it away forever or only hide it for awhile? what do u say Syntara? She a wily one remember that!!! LOL LOL
    Who’s the vodka lover here? LOL

  377. 03/24/2013 at 8:19 pm

    Donchais and I were drinking it the other day I believe I was having it in cocktails

  378. MMD
    03/24/2013 at 8:20 pm

    Interesting!

    Lisa ‏@nityensali 23m
    @stark3923 Did U know we filed complaint W/Ebay about #JodiArais & were succesful had item removed Now working 2 get her Painting Removed GB

  379. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:21 pm

    Trial Watcher – Who’s the vodka lover here? LOL

    Guilty as charged!! lol

  380. 03/24/2013 at 8:26 pm

    re the gun. I don’t think she intended to use it. I think it was if the she couldnt get him into the vulnerable position in the shower she was going to use it to just shoot him. Her preference was the psycho scene. (Too crazy to think about but that is where the evidence goes)

    I think his body convulsed after she did all the horror to him (almost too much to bear thinking about)… and by the trajectory she has panicked thinking he was still alive, ran to her purse, grabbed the gun stood over him and shot him in the basically face but top of the head.

    She knew it was risky using the gun, unfamiliar with it she missed picking up the cartridge then realised she had to get rid of it and it could be in the dam if that’s a logical place and you all would know better than I cos you live there.

  381. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:27 pm

    Glad to hear that eBay removed some of her items. They all need to be removed. She or her family shouldn’t be allowed to profit from anything!

  382. 03/24/2013 at 8:31 pm

    Why only some? You all should start an online petition to ebay

  383. 03/24/2013 at 8:32 pm

    oh they did lol good didnt see your post MMD soz mate

  384. 03/24/2013 at 8:34 pm

    I think that judge needs to pull JA into line. Why has that judge lost control of her court. Why is she allowing the defense team, read Jodi Arias, run of that courtroom?

  385. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:35 pm

    Syn – I agree with your theory on #379. I haven’t been to Hoover Dam since they opened the new bridge that goes across it. I know it has a pedestrian walkway and in viewing pix of it, the fence is low enough that someone could throw something off it. But I don’t remember what time of day/night she pulled over before the checkpoint. Not sure if they allow peds on the bridge at nite. Do you remember what time she pulled over??

    If she tossed it there in daylight I think that would be pretty conspicuous and someone see, but if it was night time,it might be possible.

  386. 03/24/2013 at 8:37 pm

    The one thing I can’t put in place is that piece of duct tape. Did she have the knife taped under something.. or the tape around the gun? I can’t put that piece of ductape into any logical scenario yet.

    Anyone have idea on it?

  387. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 8:37 pm

    Butting in as usual…not having read any posts for a while…and being my usual off topic self…
    I’ve been catching up on old trial testimony during this break (I only started watching when the jodi started testiphonying, or whatever y’all call it). There was a camera shot of a man behind the Alexander family at one point who, although he didn’t look at all like him, for some reason reminded me of Dominick Dunne. How I miss that amazing man. Remember those times during the Spector trial with Trial & Tribulations’ Sprocket (and you donchais!)?
    BTW, to the nice lady Grace: “Just keep swimming, just keep swimming” & “I wish I could speak whale”! Two of my fave lines from a top ten movie of mine. Thanks for bringing Dory into the converse! P. Sherman!
    …okay…you can now ignore and resume you’re previous program. Thanks again for the outlet!! I’m dreaming of a rebuttal Christmas. Cheers folks.

  388. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:40 pm

    Was just listening to JM’s opening statements since I missed them. Was glad to hear he pointed out that she said she was on I-40 headed to Utah (which doesn’t run through Utah but would get her to Mesa via other highways). That was such a stupid lie on her part. Listening to that clip of Det. Flores interrogation of her was when I had to get out my road atlas just to verify.

  389. 03/24/2013 at 8:40 pm

    That investigation vid was very thorough there is a reason they don’t think it’s in the dam. I maybe need to re watch it with that in mind.

  390. 03/24/2013 at 8:42 pm

    Thats the weird thing isn’t it? She is a prolific pathological liar, but her lies are so ridiculous. It’s enough to do your head in. (kinda stating the obvious but see that’s FOG the real FOG they just do your head in with their crap.

  391. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 8:43 pm

    Hey all! Not trying to make you sick but if you think you can stomach it, here’s
    another Gus video………..

  392. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:43 pm

    I can’t place the duct tape either. Wasn’t it by the washing machine?? Perhaps it was just collected as evidence just to be on the safe side.

  393. 03/24/2013 at 8:43 pm

    Nancy B~ many hugs to that 10 year old girl who stood fast in her instincts against formidable odds. And to the woman who reached the place knowing it was safe to reveal the horror that child experienced. I hope you still hold true to your instincts today. Love To You !!!!

  394. LadyInRed
    03/24/2013 at 8:48 pm

    MMD :
    Interesting!
    Lisa ‏@nityensali 23m
    @stark3923 Did U know we filed complaint W/Ebay about #JodiArais & were succesful had item removed Now working 2 get her Painting Removed GB

    Here, here, cheers and clink! No eBay profits for the skank!

  395. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:50 pm

    I need to rewatch that piece too! I think I have it saved from JVM. I can’t remember why she said she was on I-40 because that was HUGE mistake on her part. I think she said she got lost which made it even worse.

  396. 03/24/2013 at 8:51 pm

    Trace Re: duct tape its in as an exhibit… lying Im not quite sure where could be near the washing machine… need to go through that forensic woman’s day again she explains things really clearly. Very distinct but just one piece.

  397. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:52 pm

    Marilyn N – Not sure if I can stomach watching another Searcy vid…perhaps after a cocktail or two! LOL! I watched his proposal vid and that did me in.

  398. 03/24/2013 at 8:53 pm

    Tracey A :
    I need to rewatch that piece too! I think I have it saved from JVM. I can’t remember why she said she was on I-40 because that was HUGE mistake on her part. I think she said she got lost which made it even worse.

    Yeah thays the story she told is it Ryan? and she told Det Flores the same one I think. I dunno so many lies around that part I kinda bypassed it and just went for what I could actually work out from the evidence itself. Start putting that in and you can’t see for the fog..the real FOG

  399. 03/24/2013 at 8:54 pm

    Hiya Vickee and LIR how are you both?

  400. 03/24/2013 at 8:55 pm

    Marily I know I shouldnt but I will. Kinda scared but…… 3 2 1 BUNGEEEE

  401. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 8:56 pm

    brb…gonna watch that clip on JVM. Guess it’s my “morbid curosity” to relive all of JA’s BS!

  402. 03/24/2013 at 8:58 pm

    Maybe he can do the vanishing trick? I’d like to see that!

  403. Ci Ci's Circle
    03/24/2013 at 9:03 pm

    Marilyn N :
    I know this is long, but it is well worth reading from Katiecoolady:
    #1270
    Yesterday, 12:39 PM
    katiecoolady
    Verified Bad Ass
    Join Date: Oct 2004
    Posts: 4,772
    Warning: Long
    I’m going to share a piece of why I sit in the courtroom with the family offering support. For

    Thank you for sharing….we can only hope in this case the jury does the right thing from the get go!

  404. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 9:05 pm

    The Duct Tape! Found on the floor by washer/dryer #114 photo was used by Jodi to tape the gun/knife in that bathroom somewhere. I think that she had left and then Travis went into the shower and she was a big NASTY surprise for him. also the tape had no blood on it, that was really odd considering blood was everywhere. She may have had the knife taped behind her somehow I posted all this way back when……Bottom Line..We’ll Never Know!!

  405. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 9:07 pm

    Syntara :
    Marily I know I shouldnt but I will. Kinda scared but…… 3 2 1 BUNGEEEE

    I know you can do it, Syn!!!

  406. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:11 pm

    Trial Watcher – Interesting…”may have had the knife taped behind” that would make sense. That is very odd there was no blood on the tape. You are right though, we’ll never know.

    Syn – Wouldn’t ya know it….I deleted that clip. Drat! I’ll have to look online now. Double Drat!

  407. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 9:13 pm

    KUDOS to E-BAY!!!
    Keep Jodi Arias and Family Members from Making Money off of her CRIME OF MURDER!!!
    Who the hell told her she could paint anyway?? LOL LOL
    give the bitch a box of crayolas and call it a day!

  408. 03/24/2013 at 9:14 pm

    Yeah that is what I was thinking the gun and knife may have been taped somewhere Trial Watcher.. but then I thought hmm but she hadnt been in the house since April.. and it seems a bit heavy handed to tape them with that if she had only done it for temp purposes that day so I kind of tending to rule that one not so logical unless more info comes to light.

    That’s why its got me stumped what did she have near the washing machine that could have had duct tape on it. The unpacking of the cleaning appliance? nah not likely

    I think JM has a theory on it though or it wouldnt be in the evidence exhibits so I wanna know dammit 😛

  409. 03/24/2013 at 9:15 pm

    Trial watcher :
    KUDOS to E-BAY!!!
    Keep Jodi Arias and Family Members from Making Money off of her CRIME OF MURDER!!!
    Who the hell told her she could paint anyway?? LOL LOL
    give the bitch a box of crayolas and call it a day!

    LOL! Love it when you say it how it is Trial Watcher!! LOL! sooo true tho!

  410. 03/24/2013 at 9:16 pm

    Tracey Syn – Wouldn’t ya know it….I deleted that clip. Drat! I’ll have to look online now. Double Drat!

    ugggh

  411. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 9:17 pm

    sorry everything I hear about these people and everything they attempt to do to undermine
    the seriousness and the horrible reality of what their daughter/sister/niece has done. Have they no decency or shame?

  412. 03/24/2013 at 9:20 pm

    Trial Watcher I am so with you. They make me seethe inside like I have never done before. They truly are just vile. They even have an aura of vile through my TV .. its just the energy around them or rather lack of it…its all wrong almost draining in nature.

  413. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:26 pm

    Trial Watcher – JA’s family has NO decency or shame. They giggle and smirk in court. Her mother tried to sell the phony emails to the Nat’l Inquirer (who’d a thought that gag rag would have a conscience) and so on and so on. The are just disgusting people topped only by JA herself.

  414. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:27 pm

    * they are just disgusting.

  415. 03/24/2013 at 9:28 pm

    maybe she had the knife and gun wrapped in ductape..or at least the knife. Im telling you that thing was surgical sharp to slice that cleanly and deeply into his neck. It may have been wrapped in ductape for that reason.

    She is not human to be able to do that. No human being could do that to another in cold blood just for being rejected. It’s such a petty reason to do something that heinous for. That alone shows the extreme narcissism and entitlement she feels.

  416. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:30 pm

    Where oh where has MMD gone???? I’ll bet she’s shopping online for a couple more of those sexy flannel nighties! LOL! Are ya still here MMD???

  417. 03/24/2013 at 9:32 pm

    I tell you this is one case that scares the hell out of me and I’ve been studying this for years now. This is the worst I’ve ever seen, for extremes of so many facets of it. Everything, everything she does seems to be to the extreme. Hedonistic to the nth degree.

  418. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:33 pm

    Or maybe MMD’s watching the “The Heat is Juan” video over and over again! LMAO!!

  419. 03/24/2013 at 9:33 pm

    she’sprobably shopping for a doll like mine

  420. 03/24/2013 at 9:34 pm

    I love thst. I think it’s grest so many pay homage to him. I’m really surprised I thought I was the only one! but nooooooo

  421. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 9:37 pm

    Tracey A :
    Where oh where has MMD gone???? I’ll bet she’s shopping online for a couple more of those sexy flannel nighties! LOL! Are ya still here MMD???

    I wish I could stop laughing right now!

  422. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:38 pm

    LOL Syn! She may not need it if she’s getting the real thing ***wink wink***! I’ve gotta go back and watch Essem’s video again. That is just to hysterical!!! And I love watching the the news article on JM. He just so humble! Love it when that lady asks him to sign her cane!

  423. 03/24/2013 at 9:39 pm

    Trial watcher :
    sorry everything I hear about these people and everything they attempt to do to undermine
    the seriousness and the horrible reality of what their daughter/sister/niece has done. Have they no decency or shame?

    They certainly don’t appear to. not the whole family. That is a breeding ground for cluster B Personality disorders that much I do know. Malignant.

  424. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:39 pm

    Hedonistic to the nth degree! Perfect!!!!

  425. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:40 pm

    Anna – Sorry, I know once I get started I can’t stop either! 🙂

  426. 03/24/2013 at 9:42 pm

    Tracey A :
    LOL Syn! She may not need it if she’s getting the real thing ***wink wink***! I’ve gotta go back and watch Essem’s video again. That is just to hysterical!!! And I love watching the the news article on JM. He just so humble! Love it when that lady asks him to sign her cane!

    Yeah me to I need to go back and find it to bookmark that news one It’s soooo gorgeous!

  427. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 9:43 pm

    HI Syntara: I believe you may have something when u say that JM may have a plan for that dam duct tape yet but with absolutely NO mention of it this far I wonder…..
    Is it nothing at all? And what about the rope ? did this ever exist? Doesn’t all of this depend on what we want to believe from a pathological liar?
    Poor Travis. NO way did he see this woman coming to end his life. From all I’ve read about the pair of them he was a young man going places and she just wanted in on the good life he could have given her. Look at her room at her grandparents where she was basically flopping at until she found another man to move in with. OOH Lucky Ryan Burns.. LOL LOL
    He MUST realize just how lucky he GOT!!!

  428. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:44 pm

    Syn – Did you watch that last video Marilyn N posted yet???? Do I need barf bags handy???

  429. 03/24/2013 at 9:44 pm

    Anyhow Im off… you all take care and let’s hope for some rivetting developments tonight.. well your tomorrow I guess. Its sposed to start at 10:30 Az time right?

  430. 03/24/2013 at 9:47 pm

    Tracey A :
    Syn – Did you watch that last video Marilyn N posted yet???? Do I need barf bags handy???

    Yes I did… that’s what I made the comment “I wish he’d do the vanishing trick. I’d like to see that one”

    After you watch it that will make sense.

    I didnt listen to the woman too long it was blah blah to me by then and I hate caged animals or birds that should be in their natice land and in the wild so I tuned out. But take a look.

  431. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:52 pm

    Syn – Have a good nite ****waves nite nite****. Thanks for all the laughs today! Having way too much fun!

  432. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 9:53 pm

    Syn – Correct 10:30 AZ time

  433. 03/24/2013 at 9:58 pm

    Trial Watcher: I believe you may have something when u say that JM may have a plan for that dam duct tape yet but with absolutely NO mention of it this far I wonder…..
    Is it nothing at all? And what about the rope ? did this ever exist? Doesn’t all of this depend on what we want to believe from a pathological liar?
    Poor Travis. NO way did he see this woman coming to end his life. From all I’ve read about the pair of them he was a young man going places and she just wanted in on the good life he could have given her. Look at her room at her grandparents where she was basically flopping at until she found another man to move in with. OOH Lucky Ryan Burns.. LOL LOL
    He MUST realize just how lucky he GOT!!!

    This is just my take on it based on what I know… there could be things that Im not considering thast I dont know about but… I try to consider everthing I can.

    1. Duct tape I can’t work out to any satisfaction

    2. Rope do not believe existed.

    3. I believe nothing of what she says and don’t thi k she should be listened to. I believe in following the evidence and ignoring everything that comes out of her mouth because its pure obfuscation and manipulation.

    4. Travis knew what she was. Probably why he fought so hard. He told a couple of people something like : “She is going to kill me I’m serious” ” don’t be surprised if I don’t show up one Sunday because I’m dead.”

    5. She was a gold digger, he was a genuinely nice guy who was going places . Very successful it seems.

    6. Her room exactly. EXACTLY. More rage at him dumping her.. She is a parasite who never produced anything just wanted to live off her chosen prey.

    7. Very Lucky Mr Burns agreed.

  434. 03/24/2013 at 10:04 pm

    Trial Watcher.. furthermore… Lots of stuff in that bag from the dryer and washing machine too btw

    The bag Wormi made the poor woman get everything out of one by one. and thst perfectly clesn towel on the rail… that’s strange how she wased or replaced that. It was perfectly clean and should have had blood spatter on it.

    Weird stuff how she cleaned up some things then seems to have given up cos time was getting away and just left the rest.

  435. 03/24/2013 at 10:06 pm

    byeeee .. see you all later. *waves*

  436. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 10:06 pm

    Syn – Yes I did… that’s what I made the comment “I wish he’d do the vanishing trick. I’d like to see that one”
    After you watch it that will make sense.
    I didnt listen to the woman too long it was blah blah to me by then and I hate caged animals or birds that should be in their natice land and in the wild so I tuned out. But take a look.

    I quit watching after 4 mins…couldn’t stand to listen to him toot his own horn anymore. Now, your comment makes sense after listening to his “magic story”.

    But WOW, those piano skills…I’m surprised he didn’t provide the accompaniment to JA when she sang ” O Holy Night” in jail.

    And the caged birds….I’m with ya there. Brings to mind the poem by Maya Angelou “I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings”.

    Lordy, could this whole trial and it’s cast of characters get any worse??

  437. Marilyn N
    03/24/2013 at 10:07 pm

    Lillian Glass and Katiekoolady on the Websleuths Sunday night True Crime Radio tonite –
    recorded and ready to play now.

  438. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 10:11 pm

    I want to start this post by saying in no way would I ever judge Travis’ mom, ever. Period. My mom was an alcoholic until I was 9. She was the passed out the couch type alchy. She wouldn’t show up for carpool after school, cook, clean…etc, on a regular basis. So I’ve had a very tiny twinge of what the Alexander’s went through. I’ve always had the most incredible difficultly confronting people in any way. I’ve heard that can be a psychological scar from such an experience. I haven’t looked into this or anything, but I was wondering if maybe Travis’ reaction to his childhood was to sort of do the opposite of me. He was an outgoing character from the get-go, I hypothesize. I was always Very shy. But maybe there’s something he latched onto in effort to deal with life, like his potential sell-out comedic wit & timing (sorry, but I think there was an element of genius there). My second oldest brother took on this role when my mom was ill. He was my comedic relief. I’ve never asked him, but maybe that’s why he was like that.
    From what I’ve been gleaning, Travis was able to maintain a much firmer view of having a positive outlook than I ever did. We strive to amplify the good in this man’s life because the jodi tried to pull him to shame in order to save her own throat. Travis’ light has been spread to more people than he could have ever imagined. (good from bad) Although that light was taken from us, it is now being lit so as to never be extinguished. Score 1 for the benefits of mod tech!

  439. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 10:33 pm

    HLNtv is showing,”After Dark” and I must say there’s a dam good theory tonite on what happened there. Many believe that the gunshot DEFINITELY came first! Remember when Jodi said,” I don’t agree with the ME”, in ref to the sequence? Jodi was in NO fog, she knows exactly what happened and in what order too. i mean check out the interrogation video, the little song about her memory WOW thats too dam much and as for the rope there was NO rope either. We can’t forget all of this CRAP came from JODI. and I mean CRAP!
    Her favorite word, remember When she pulled over in the desert and said”Oh crap, I think I’ve done something wrong! Oh my… she’s sso full of it and I mean CRAP.

  440. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 10:33 pm

    Hmmm, maybe I shoulda said goodnight gracie. Anyway, I’m tilting my hat with one more funny: I’m a gamer and I just downloaded a new game on my iphone. The storyline involves a private security company…and at one point our protagonist proclaims while in the elevator that there is a “tin foil hat” on the ground – no doubt left by one the insane “activists” that are involved in the conspiracy. Just about passed out laughing. Night all!

  441. Trial watcher
    03/24/2013 at 10:53 pm

    OK Syn we’re in firm agreement on all points, what chokes me is that Travis wasn’t saved from her.!! He became aware of what Jodi was capable of too late. Even though he made these comments to friends he must have thought he could handle her if or when anything
    took place. Little did he know just how dangerous she really was! if he had he wouldn’t have been alone at anytime. Why didn’t he consider a restraining order after the tire slashing and the incidents like crawling in dog doors and hiding in his closet? Also Syn I only got into this trial about one month ago or so. I’m a baby as far as all the past info goes on the trial but I am catching up LOL LOL
    Guess what? I did get a call from Dr. Drew’s show to c if I was interested in talking on the show but they didn’t call back, I was out dam it!!! They didn’t return my call after leaving 3 #’s for me to return their call!! LOL LOL Oh well……………my 12 seconds of fame gone

  442. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 10:59 pm

    Anna – First let me say how sorry I am that you had to grow up in environment like that. That really had to be very difficult and you were so young. I have a feeling that Syntara will have some really good insight for you regarding the psychology of what you have experienced. She’s very insightful when it comes to such matters.

    Your last paragraph is such a touching tribute to Travis’s memory and beautifully worded! Sad as it is to say, sometimes people touch more lives in death and obviously Travis has done that. But damn it!!! I would gladly live my life without “knowing” Travis and let him continue to enthrall his family and friends with his delightful personality.

    But that young man needs to be with us, here on Earth. Now there is just a void for all of us “knowing” what Jodi destroyed. And my heart breaks for what his family and friends have lost. Because of Jodi’s selfish, thoughtless, and unconscionable actions, she has taken him from all of us. And that just plain, downright hurts for all of us connected by this trial.

  443. Tracey A
    03/24/2013 at 11:13 pm

    Trial Watcher – Wow! You gotta a call from Dr. Drew??? Cool!! How’d they get your info, did you call in or something?? That’s so cool. I hope they call back. If they do, you need to give us a head’s up so we can all tune into one of our peeps! 🙂

  444. Lisa M
    03/24/2013 at 11:19 pm

    I happen to have a friend who has never heard of this trial believe it or not so I took it upon myself to try to explain it– not an easy task! He happened to have read The Psychopath Test so that’s how the subject came up. So I thought well, where do I start? And decided to just lay out the facts of the case in terms of what she did, before getting into the trial. But there was no way to make it sound anything other than truly horrific and my friend actually made me stop because he didnt want to hear anymore. When you take away all the defense bs all you have is a truly depraved act and then when you add the lies and the placid attitude the killer has on the stand, acting like this is some kind of chess game she can win, the depravity deepens into evil. I hope that the state knew what it was doing when they chose to make this a death penalty case. It could have been more cut and dry and a first degree conviction would have been assured. I can understand why they would think this warrants the death penalty but I also think its riskier than just going for life w/o parole. The main prerogative should be keeping this psycho off the streets than ensuring she dies. It’s a stretch to think she’ll actually get the DP at this point. If she does I’ll eat my words but I don’t think it’s going to happen.

  445. Lisa M
    03/24/2013 at 11:27 pm

    My last post was kind of truncated. Sorry bout that! Just expressing my opinion that as horrific as this crime is, and it truly?
    is, I don’t think JA will get the DP because she’s a woman and seems demure. I may be wrong but I just think it was a mistake to make it a capital case because it is so much riskier and we all know what happened with CA. I don’t think it’s a decision that takes the publics interest into account. Usually the right to a speedy trial is supposed to be for the benefit gor the defendant; but in this case I think the public needs the speedy trial more than the defendant does! For mental health reasons alone!

  446. Lisa M
    03/24/2013 at 11:38 pm

    “Why didn’t he consider a restraining order after the tire slashing and the incidents like crawling in dog doors and hiding in his closet?”
    I’ve wondered this myself! But when u start thinking like this you start to veer into blaming the victim so I had to stop myself and realize that we all make mistakes. We all have let out guards down and have not been as vigilant with people at times in our lives especially when we’re in our twenties and/or actively dating. I think the slashed tires were a big red flag but we don’t know what their relationship was truly like or what was going on in his head. It also makes sense if you think of him being the one who was abused and manipulated. He might have had post traumatic stress syndrome from dealing with her. It is a missing link though. How did he go from having his tires slashed by her to a continuance of an intimate relationship with her? That is a mystery.

  447. 03/24/2013 at 11:49 pm

    MMD
    SYNTARA ~ hello to you both. Took a break, daughter came for a short visit. Do not see her often. You guys are probably long asleep it is only 8.45p for me. Looking forward to tomorrow and your special commentaries. ;0)

  448. Anna
    03/24/2013 at 11:58 pm

    Tracey A: I can’t thank you enough for you kind words. Justice for Travis!

  449. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 12:02 am

    Sorry, major irritant when I misspell …. issues … meant ‘can’t thank you enough for YOUR kind words’. Guess when I said nite all I was lying…

  450. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 12:10 am

    Oh, and one more thing afore I go to sleep….Tracey A says, “But damn it!!! I would gladly live my life without “knowing” Travis and let him continue to enthrall his family and friends with his delightful personality.”
    I couldn’t have said it better if I tried. Cheers.

  451. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 12:50 am

    Lisa M – Great points raised in your last 3 posts. I really perked up on the last 2 sentences of Post # 447. “How did he go from having his tires slashed by her to a continuance of an intimate relationship with her? That is a mystery. ”

    I have a theory and it comes from a recent experience. My “hubby” and I have a friend (well, his friend, I’ve come to think of him as a scumbag now). This “friend” has a had an on/off “girlfriend” for the last couple of years. At one point, early in “hubby’s” and my relationship his “friend” (let’s call him DA for Dumbass) and his “girlfriend” (let’s call her PNJ for Psycho Nut Job {2nd only to Jodi Arias}) came to live w/us for just over a month. This was my first experience w/ the PNJ. During this time, I was home w/her during the day. They’d been dating for sometime at this point. She would go on these rants. Like on Mother’s Day she would flip out and start screaming “It’s Mother’s Day, I should be pregnant by now” and other similar things I can’t even remember now. BTW – DA was in his late 40’s and has 2 teenage girls (doubtful that he would ever consider having more kids at his age). I tried talking logically to her, but you can’t speak logic to the crazies!!!

    I, “hubby” and the rest of his friends who’ve know DA for years) started calling her PNJ because that’s how she acted. And we still do to this day.

    To shorten a very long detailed story, after they moved out, things escalated between them: on a trip to a local amusement park PNJ, who is extremely jealous, literally kicked one of DA’s daughters forcing DA to leave PNJ at the park while he took his kid home. He then returned to pickup the PNJ. Then, we found out she had keyed his car, writing an obscenity etched in the paint. Then, we found out she broke into his office and stole personal items, trashing them. I could go on and on. (Starting to sound familiar yet??) Oh, had she had her car repo’d and other of our friends lent her money to help her our…$$$ money never repaid. (Big surprise). Well, DA had finally had enough (and that’s after many more stunts I haven’t even detailed here) so he pays for a one way plane ticket back to where she came from. Let’s just say it was over 2000 miles away.

    But guess what…he can’t stay away. He starts flying to see her. Why you ask? The sex! Turns out PNJ is…wait for it…”a 3 holed wonder”. I kid you not. Not only am I not exaggerating, I’ve left out details because the JA case is so high profile, some in our circle, if on this site, may recognize the details. I’ll take the risk cuz if he never talks to me again, I won’t care.

    So after a couple of years of long distance dating, DA decides to bring PNJ back here (not with us) to live. He has to secret her away because his kids can’t stand her. But he starts bringing her around new friends he has (cuz the rest of us refuse to be around her). We all think DA has lost his mind. And guess what…she has alienated his new found friends with her antics. Now they tell DA, “If PNJ is going on this event, you are on your own cuz we want nothing to do with her.” Apparently, most of DA’s new friends, are a bit younger and single. Whenever, they go out to party and search for girls, PNJ gets extremely jealous and turns off all would be takers from the single guys. Major Buzz Kill!

    Needless to say, I make no comparison to Travis other then he was seduced by one crazy Bitch. What truly disgusts me is that DA has 2 daughters!!! Who treats women like that when you have 2 girls??? Disgusting! To use CiCi’s term (finger down throat…barf).

    Several of us had made observations that we might be called to testify if PNJ kills DA (no kidding here). We just hope to God that we don’t have a 2nd JA trial…if we did, this would be it. “Cept PNJ in this story, we hope, isn’t as smart as JA. Seriously folks, I wish I was making this up but the similarities are scary.

    Oh, and might I add, that the PNJ in this story has been stalking one of DA’s ex-girlfriends. Instead of slashing her tires, she went after the ex’s job and the ex is a single parent with one small child to raise. Any of this sounding like JA???? I wish I was making this up. It’s like Donchais says “Sometimes, monsters walk amongst us”. True DAT!

    Sorry to drone on Lisa M. Hope I could connect the craziness of the 2 PNJ’s….

  452. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 1:00 am

    Lisa M – Sorry for the long post but it’s poignant. Cheers to you and thanks for sharing. And Lisa, I think we’ve all gotten very good at typonese! Just sayin’…no worries here Girlfriend. We’ll figure it out! Luv ya {{{{{hugs}}}} You just hang in there and bring us your awesome personality! 🙂

  453. SCK
    03/25/2013 at 1:15 am

    MMD :
    SCK – I agree that it’s in the Hoover dam. Since she said it’s in the desert you can be guaranteed that is the one place it’s not! Plus she would need a place where it would never be found so a dumpster along the way would never do.And couldn’t you just see JA laughing knowing detectives were searching the desert for nothing?

  454. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 1:20 am

    Hi Vickee!!! You still got that broom tuned up???? We might need here soon!!! Or I can pick you up! LOL!

  455. SCK
    03/25/2013 at 1:20 am

    Tracey A :
    Syn – I agree with your theory on #379. I haven’t been to Hoover Dam since they opened the new bridge that goes across it. I know it has a pedestrian walkway and in viewing pix of it, the fence is low enough that someone could throw something off it. But I don’t remember what time of day/night she pulled over before the checkpoint. Not sure if they allow peds on the bridge at nite. Do you remember what time she pulled over??
    If she tossed it there in daylight I think that would be pretty conspicuous and someone see, but if it was night time,it might be possible. The new bridge wasn’t open in 2008 so she would have had to pull into one of the lookout spots to toss the gun – easy enough. My guess is the gun is at the bottom of Lake Mead..

  456. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 1:26 am

    Thanks SCK! I actually don’t think it’s in Lake Mead. I think she has it hidden away (maybe with Matt McCartney. Or she got rid of it in the desert. I wouldnt take the chance of dropping it off the bridge. Too many tourists taking pictures. She was stoopid sometimes, but brilliant in other times. And I hate to say brilliant in anything related to JA.

  457. Schaeffer
    03/25/2013 at 1:40 am

    MMD :

    Essem :
    . And what was the conflict of interest Victoria Washington (first attorney) had that she had to withdraw from the case?

    Victoria Washington, the Public Defender assigned to the case, was granted permission to withdraw from the case on 22 Dec 11. I read the petition to withdraw, but can’t find it right now, only the motion grating same. The gist of it was because a defendant Washington had previously represented was assigned to her on a new case, and said defendant either knew Jodi or Travis. Since this defendant relationship existed prior to Jodi’s, the attorney was granted permission to withdraw. Happiest day of her life!

    • 03/25/2013 at 7:52 am

      Thanks Schaeffer, I read the papers saying there was a conflict and wondered if it was a case involving Jodi herself. Definitely Victoria’s gain Jennifer’s loss. Think they are flogging the proverbial dead horse, it’s just not going to get up.

  458. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:35 am

    SCK Damn! Thank you for the that! Great intel!!!! How did I not know that??????? How did I not no that??? My mom lives in Laughlin Nv. for God’s sake. :Maybe the gun is in Lake Movaje. near Davis Dam…She did say she was in the I-40. Come on!! That takes me to Laughlin NV where my mom lives. She wasn’t headed here…she was headed for Mesa.

    Sorry Observer! I respectfully digress to your diligence. My apologies… bowing head in respect

  459. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:41 am

    OK…that’s scary that I’m the only one here. I’m done. See you all again on the other side

  460. jad
    03/25/2013 at 5:14 am

    Essem [at # 501 yesterday] posted the link for a really outrageous piece of testimony. That was posted a week ago, but I can’t remember who — so, to whomever also posted, please accept apologies for the lack of credit. However, thank you Essem for the repost of “The Neverending Answer”. It has been reposted again on today’s page, and many here deeply appreciate your post, Essem. The reaction [in this video] by everyone associated with the case is hilarious. The cut [of that day’s testimony] is less than one minute, and (for those who have forgotten where the post is, it is) at the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ4SFBYfzkY

    Your next post [at # 506] questioning the role of Wurmi is on point. It is hard to understand how this lawyer was appointed (as either lead Trial counsel or Trial co-counsel) when he was not death penalty qualified. That was the same thing that happened with the Casey Anthony case. José Ángel Baez was not death penalty qualified, as he had not been in practice for five years and had not handled the requisite number of criminal cases to be recognized as competent in the specialized practice of capital representation. (See Rule 3.112 of the Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure, and also see what the Florida Supreme Court had to say when preventing his admission to the Bar, in Florida Board of Bar Examiners re J.A.B., 762 So.2nd 518 (Fla. 2000).)

    Just like the State of Florida, the State of Arizona seems to have to honor certain contracts prepared behind their backs and stuffed down their throats by career politicians watching out for their own kind, rather than the good of the people. Thus, the people of Arizona have been paying this lawyer (Wurmi) two hundred and ninety nine dollars an hour, that has probably gone up since originally contracted. (For whatever the reasoning, the State also provides all paralegal and associated help, that does not get deducted from the enormous amounts Wurmi submits for payments for his own billing hours.) It just does not make sense that the taxpayers are paying so much money for this inexperienced lawyer. Sure, he has followed the footsteps of Baez and has seated himself with a death penalty qualified lawyer, but she is only making one third what he is. So, again, the question does beg an answer as to how the taxpayers got stuck with that.

    That lame excuse that Wurmi left the Office or that Jodi Arias fired him does not really wash. He was appointed Stand-By Counsel during a roughly one-week period when she was submitting those forged documents (alleged to have been COPIES of letters prepared by Travis Alexander). [Check out that time period between August 8 and August 16 of 2011.] It appears that he only stepped aside so his client could try to get those forged documents into evidence (to use for the newly introduced third version of the story for the murder), as this lawyer would have probably been disbarred for such an egregious act. Her reasoning for asking the Court to accept those COPIES had been detailed in Court documents as a part of HER request that SHE made as a PRO PER litigant (when claiming a self-defense argument based on charges related to domestic violence), sparing any sanctions of Wurmi for such an ABSURDITY.

    The most I know of Pre-Paid Legal Services, Inc. is of that federal class action suit (out of several) that had been initiated in 2002, by the law firm of Lieff, Cabraser, Heimann & Bernstein, LLP and Dunn, Swan & Cunningham, P.C., in the District Court in the Western District of Oklahoma. Other than that I have not read any contract for services, and I have no idea whether Pre-Paid Legal pays for counsel when the act is deliberate or of a (criminal) nature such as the one committed by Jodi Arias (who would have probably been covered for some type of services in her position as an Associate of the corporate entity). Who knows? When the State of Arizona starts examining the billing of all those involved in this case (and it will), a good reason might be found to force Legal Shield [the newly named Pre-Paid Legal] to foot some of the bill to alleviate the burden to the taxpayers of the State of Arizona.

    • 03/25/2013 at 8:26 am

      Thanks Jad, I found that clip on the Justice for Travis Facebook Page and knew everyone here would enjoy after watching days of Jodi having to have the last word on every question. Interesting thought on the Nurmi on/off/on appointment, I thought she was just too arrogant and stupid thinking she could represent herself in a DP case but trying to slip those forgeries in as her own counsel makes sense. As much as Nurmi has been a drag, I do think he is following instructions and probably he and Victoria initially advised JA to plead insanity (or something else more believable than self defence) and when Victoria escaped Nurmi was stuck and couldn’t get released by the court. I don’t know if he failed to follow his client’s instructions if that would be grounds for appeal. As for PPL I’m sure any cover available would have had limitations just curious really.

  461. 03/25/2013 at 5:18 am

    Not had time to look through posts – shock horror I know but I actually have stuff to go do this evening.

    Just wanted to post the thought I awoke with:

    What kind of evil can spend that much time not only premeditating and relishing the challenge of planning it but turning into a game. A win at all costs?

    It ‘s what got her through those months alone. Her life became a game only she knew she was playing. A game to get even to the exclusion of all else. Her drive, her force, her need.

    Each time he rejected her, as she sat isolated in her dingy room in Mesa, she honed her plan. She assuaged her rage. A plan to issue ‘ justice’ and to ensure she got away with it. Her one and only mission in life, to the exclusion of all else.

    Months and months of accumulating rage was suppressed through one mechanism and one mechanism alone… The game.

    “Of course” she didn’t put it in her journals – “of course” she didn’t. The journals were part of the game. Part of the act. Every text, every phone call, every recording, every interaction, every word she spoke was part of The Game.

    Those last hours there with Travis – every word she uttered every action she took she was toying with him. Was playing the game. Every move based upon his reaction to her.

    One theme continually playing in her head “you have no idea what I’m going to do to you idiot, you are so dead – nobody, nobody gets away with treating me like this – NOBODY – you @hole”

    * cue smile sweetly and giggle to something he just said * *Act as if everything is sweet and innocent.*

    She is still playing the game and we ladies and gents, are now a part of it. She’s played it through every thought, every interview, every moment in her cell. The game continues.

    Think about it, think about the person you have to be to be able to do that. How can they not seek the DP in this case, how? The only way to end this game is to end her life.

  462. Lisa M
    03/25/2013 at 6:29 am

    Syntara, I can understand why the state would seek the DP I guess I have some ambivalence about the death penalty and that’s why I’m questioning the state’s decision. I am 100% for the DP when the victim is a child or when there’s clear evidence of torture, but I still don’t feel that she meets that criteria in my mind. Yes, what she did to Travis is horrific and yes, it probably does rise to torture standards in some ways, but I will admit, even I am probably affected by her being a woman and not being outwardly monstrous looking. I just know that if I were on the jury, I’d have a hard time putting her to death. But that’s probably why I wouldn’t be on the jury to begin with. I really wouldn’t want to have to make that decision.

  463. Lisa M
    03/25/2013 at 6:40 am

    Wow, Tracy, that is some crazy stuff. Is DA still involved with PNJ? I hope not, but I have a feeling maybe! Has he or anyone ever reported her to the police? There needs to be a paper trail! I think if there’s anything to be learned from this horrible JA case, it’s that guys need to take the crazy women stalkers seriously! I understand though how slippery these psychopaths/sociopaths can be. They prey on people’s weaknesses, which often is kindness, or it can be alcoholism or drug addiction, or other insecurities. Maybe DA doesn’t think he could find another woman to fulfill him sexually the way she does?? Who knows?
    I think in Travis’ case, a lot can be explained by the fact that he was young and kind. He wasn’t going to turn her away when she showed up at his house in the middle of the night. I don’t think it was just because of sex. She knew how to play him, that’s obvious. It’s just so tragic, I think it’s human nature in a way to want to search for something the victim did wrong, so that it can be explicable in another way other than that some people are just plain evil. And I think men are less likely to take a female stalker seriously because they don’t want to have to admit weakness. It’s gotta be a lot harder to report a female stalker to the police if you’re a guy. It’s apparent this dame was going to do some serious damage to somebody at some point. If not Travis, it would have been someone else eventually.

  464. 03/25/2013 at 7:08 am

    LisaM

    Strangely, Any similarity to your post prior to mine was pure coincidence.

    Mine was merely expressing the thought I awoke with.

    Syn

  465. 03/25/2013 at 7:10 am

    Tracy A~ broom is ready to go only use it for special occasions and special people. (What I doing on this phone at 4.00am)? ;0(

  466. 03/25/2013 at 7:12 am

    Late entry for me took forever to read all the posts from today. So it’s obvious there is strong competition for Juan so I won’t join in what is likely to be a losing battle although I too have the Aussie accent enjoyed by Juan as suggested by Syntara. ME Rob Lowe Horne’s a cutie but could be a bit young and clearly married. So I’ll pin my hopes on Det Flores, what a patient man!!! Haven’t gone back to check if he wears a wedding ring though so don’t dash my hopes too quick please.

  467. 03/25/2013 at 7:39 am

    Jad

    Just like the State of Florida, the State of Arizona seems to have to honor certain contracts prepared behind their backs and stuffed down their throats by career politicians watching out for their own kind, rather than the good of the people.

    Omg I get it. I so totally get it. Omg

  468. 03/25/2013 at 7:58 am

    Schaeffer:

    Essem :
    . And what was the conflict of interest Victoria Washington (first attorney) had that she had to withdraw from the case?

    MMD Victoria Washington, the Public Defender assigned to the case, was granted permission to withdraw from the case on 22 Dec 11. I read the petition to withdraw, but can’t find it right now, only the motion grating same. The gist of it was because a defendant Washington had previously represented was assigned to her on a new case, and said defendant either knew Jodi or Travis. Since this defendant relationship existed prior to Jodi’s, the attorney was granted permission to withdraw. Happiest day of her life!

    Briefly how does the court appointed system work.. Ie how are the appointed attorneys chosen and by whom?

  469. 03/25/2013 at 8:06 am

    Essem :
    Thanks Schaeffer, I read the papers saying there was a conflict and wondered if it was a case involving Jodi herself. Definitely Victoria’s gain Jennifer’s loss. Think they are flogging the proverbial dead horse, it’s just not going to get up.

    Oh I so hope you are right Essem. But ….

  470. 03/25/2013 at 8:09 am

    Tracey A :
    SCK Damn! Thank you for the that! Great intel!!!! How did I not know that??????? How did I not no that??? My mom lives in Laughlin Nv. for God’s sake. :Maybe the gun is in Lake Movaje. near Davis Dam…She did say she was in the I-40. Come on!! That takes me to Laughlin NV where my mom lives. She wasn’t headed here…she was headed for Mesa.
    Sorry Observer! I respectfully digress to your diligence. My apologies… bowing head in respect

    Not putting the pieces together here. Trace when you get back can you explain this post to me. Sorry, can’t find the dots must be blind.

  471. 03/25/2013 at 8:26 am

    Tracey Re: #452

    PNJ shows typical Cluster B (read manipulator) Modus Operandi
    (ref my two posts from Dr G K Simon.)

    This Disorder typing has an innate ability to target exactly what the ‘prey’ wants most (this usually happens in what is known as the seduction phase i.e. the attentive phase.

    Once the targets achilles heel is identified, the manipulator uses it to their advantage to control the target. The target is unaware of this power play and thinks the relationship is a normal one.

    Not until it is too late and the grip is thoroughly tightened do distinct red flags start appearing. Unfortunately by this time the target is so hooked they rather excuse the red flags as anomalies and carry on the relationship. Alternatives, by this stage, are much harder.

    Inevitably these red flags turn into obvious signs of manipulation but by then the hapless target is trapped. Having invested so much in the relationship and having believed something so different than they are now faced with, it becomes a huge psychological and emotional struggle to break free.

    This is why the only advise to anyone who thinks they may be involved with someone who shows signs of these disorders is to get out and get out NOW!

    Stay long enough, you either end up dead or a shell of your former self. The internet is filled with survivor help sites for exactly this reason.

  472. 03/25/2013 at 8:31 am

    Anna :
    Sorry, major irritant when I misspell …. issues … meant ‘can’t thank you enough for YOUR kind words’. Guess when I said nite all I was lying…

    I know it. I look back at some of my posts and cringe. But I think.. well these guys are smart enough to figure it out, but it still irks me to see them.

  473. 03/25/2013 at 8:34 am

    Lisa M
    “Why didn’t he consider a restraining order after the tire slashing and the incidents like crawling in dog doors and hiding in his closet?”

    I believe they did go to the police but there was insufficient evidence. Another factor that makes this case so sad. They did try to stop it.

  474. 03/25/2013 at 8:37 am

    Lisa M

    When you take away all the defense bs all you have is a truly depraved act and then when you add the lies and the placid attitude the killer has on the stand,

    Stop there. that’s really all you need focus on.

  475. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 8:39 am

    Lisa M :
    Syntara, I can understand why the state would seek the DP I guess I have some ambivalence about the death penalty But that’s probably why I wouldn’t be on the jury to begin with. I really wouldn’t want to have to make that decision.

    Morning Lisa – You and I have discussed this before and I agree with you. As I’ve said before I am not a proponent for the death penalty but in this case, I feel that JA needs to cease to exist.

    I KNOW that I would not have been picked for the jury because of my personal bias against the DP. However, this jury is DP chosen as they have all said they are able to make that decision. I am glad that we no longer have the DP in Canada because I would never want to have to make that decision. I think (not in this case) it would haunt me for the rest of my life but truly, who am I to make a decision about something so important.

    It is to my complete and utter surprise that I feel this way and I still really can’t believe how strongly I feel as I have never felt this way before!!!! IMO, there is not a drop of redeeming value in JA and she is pure evil. I simply want her to cease existing.

    So to make a long story short, I guess it’s a good thing that neither of us is on a DP jury with what our core beliefs are. Wanting JA to stop breathing is not the same as actually making that decision. I’m glad I won’t have to live the rest of my life with whatever decision the jury does make.

  476. jad
    03/25/2013 at 8:56 am

    So many have left comments about a fear that Jodi Arias is going to use the ineffective assistance of counsel issue on her Appeal. She probably will, but it won’t work. You would be amazed at how little Appellate Courts care for that issue. There are cases that were turned down where the appointed counsel fell asleep during the questioning of a witness in a crucial part of the case, only to be jabbed awake because it was his turn at bat to question the witness. Remember he could not have heard any of the questions and answers because he was asleep and would not have been able to effectively question the witness. Yet, this was not found to be a case where there was an ineffective assistance of counsel issue.

    This is wrong in so many ways (although not in the Jodi Arias case, since the You Tube videos of all of the testimony in the case and the record evidence clearly establishes there has NOT been ineffective assistance of counsel). The actual point being made is that what has been found acceptable before this case just shows how lazy and uncaring the Judiciary has gotten. But, this is the way the Law of the Land has devolved. That is why Wurmi heartily bleats his prosecutorial misconduct charges. He knows that there are an exorbitant number of prosecutions riddled with misconduct. THAT IS NOT SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. Regardless, it is so prevalent [in the several States of America] that he knows he can get many attorneys on his side because they understand that there has been rampant prosecutorial misconduct (that has brought about many wrongful convictions, with some innocent people actually dying on death row). There is also egregious conduct that defense counsel acts out when defending a client like Jodi Arias, and this is spelled out in Appellate Briefs. Yet, sometimes that won’t work because the Appellate Courts don’t have the time or inclination to take the time to carefully read [even the most well organized cases with properly prepared] Briefs. In the case the State of Arizona has brought against Jodi Arias, Juan Martinez does not even bother with making the charge, because it is a given that so many prosecutors make this charge when it is the furthest thing from the truth that it isn’t even worth it to go forward with it even if it is the truth. So, even though the defense team of criminal lawyers has acted in a way that is a disservice to the taxpayers paying for their service and contrary to certain of the Rules governing their profession, the prosecutor can not [in the middle of a case] take the time to make the Complaint to the regulatory agency that has the power to punish the insidious activity of either of the criminal lawyers.

    The best that a decent prosecutor or an up-and-up defense counsel can expect is a full review by the Bar of any Complaint made against a lawyer. In this particular case, the people should be outraged and filing as many Complaints against Wurmi and the doppelganger as allowed. These criminal lawyers have besmirched the character of a victim and belittled others who have not testified in the manner they preferred. They have acted in a hostile manner towards the prosecutor who has never stepped out of bounds and who has always acted in obedience to the Laws of the State of Arizona, the Rules of Court of the State of Arizona, and the Rules of Professional Conduct of those Rules Regulating the State Bar of Arizona.

    The lay person can file a Complaint with the State Bar. It is rather easy to do. Any individual who is not a lawyer is given the right to file a Complaint against the misconduct of any lawyer licensed by the State Bar of Arizona. An individual is not required to report the misconduct, but another lawyer is duty bound to report any violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct (which, by the way, is not restricted to the lawyer licensed in the State of Arizona but includes ALL LAWYERS [no matter the State of licensure], who knows of the violation). The lawyer must act in obedience to Rule 8.3(a) of the Rules of Professional Conduct when that lawyer “knows that another lawyer has committed a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct that raises a substantial question as to that lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects [and] shall inform the appropriate professional authority”. In the comments section of said Rule, the lawyer is reminded that “[r]eporting a violation is especially important where the victim is unlikely to discover the offense”. Travis Alexander, the victim in the case brought against Jodi Arias, is very unlikely to discover the offense because he is deceased. Thus, this leaves the reporting to those who know of a violation who feel an obligation to report the violation, whether a duty bound lawyer or a morally and ethically sane individual that will no longer tolerate the persecution of a hideously murdered human being who had his voice stripped away from him through the actions of two criminal lawyers and their client.

    • 03/25/2013 at 9:31 am

      Jad you clearly have a legal background thanks for sharing the reality. I guess I was being generous with my thoughts on Nurmi and Willmot as the face value was just too awful. Syntara GO TO BED you should get a few hours sleep before start. It’s midnight here so it’s time I went to sleep.

  477. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 8:57 am

    Tracey A – Isn’t always amazing how everyone around can see the loon (no offense to the bird) for what she is but DA or whoever is involved, is able to justify and sometimes even rationalize PNJ’s actions. As for how he can do this when he has two daughters, well the flip answer is that DA is thinking with his small head and not his brain plus PNJ completely knows how to manipulate him.

    The comparisons to this case are scary and I believe you when you say you are not telling the half of it. I truly hope that DA is able to escape the clutches of PNJ safely, because she has some truly deep seated issues!!! I would hate to see you and your friends have to go through what TA’s friends are going through now!

  478. 03/25/2013 at 9:02 am

    Trial Watcher OK Syn we’re in firm agreement on all points, what chokes me is that Travis wasn’t saved from her.!!

    Me too oh me too!!!

    ….. but strangely I feel he is ok. Sounds stupid but I really do feel it, almost feels like a presence envelops me when I start feeling sad about that.

  479. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 9:04 am

    Essem :
    So it’s obvious there is strong competition for Juan so I won’t join in what is likely to be a losing battle although I too have the Aussie accent enjoyed by Juan as suggested by Syntara. ME Rob Lowe Horne’s a cutie but could be a bit young and clearly married. So I’ll pin my hopes on Det Flores, what a patient man!!! Haven’t gone back to check if he wears a wedding ring though so don’t dash my hopes too quick please.

    Essem – I think that Det. Flores is a perfect choice. He has the patience of a saint sitting in court without making any facial expressions but so thorough with the JA questioning. He seems like a fine man. One day when the cameras were still on he got up to leave and gave someone in the back an absolutely beaming smile and wave. Really struck me because I had never seen him smile before. He seems like a genuinely nice person and is probably as humble as JM is when not on the job. Fine choice darlin’! 🙂

  480. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 9:05 am

    Hey Syn – Top of the morning to ya 🙂

  481. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 9:08 am

    Syn – I kinda feel like TA is ok as well. Maybe it’s faith because I really can’t put a finger on it. I feel as strongly about that as I do about what should happen to JA. This case is really bringing out strong feelings unlike anything ever before.

  482. 03/25/2013 at 9:16 am

    I don’t agree with the ME”, in ref to the sequence? Jodi was in NO fog, she knows exactly what happened and in what order too. i mean check out the interrogation video, the little song about her memory WOW thats too dam much and as for the rope there was NO rope either. We can’t forget all of this CRAP came from JODI. and I mean CRAP!
    Her favorite word, remember When she pulled over in the desert and said”Oh crap, I think I’ve done something wrong! Oh my… she’s sso full of it and I mean CRAP.

    Trial Watcher. Nup nup nup! The shot could not have come first for two main reasons.

    1) The spent cartridge is shiny clean on top of the blood. If it had been ejected first it would be covered in the subsequent blood loss. (recheck that bathroom it’s got blood all over it)

    2) Although unfortunately the elapsed time between the murder and the discovery of his body the ME was unable to categorically state how much bleeding was in the brain, he was able to say the amount he could find in skull cavity was greatly diminished and definitively supportive of prior heavy blood loss or death.

    Why would Jodi vehemently disagree with this?

    Because how does she explain self defense in 62 seconds if she had to run and find a knife.

    It’s already scientifically impossible even if you start with her version of the gun. It is impossible to get from sitting in the shower to lying on the floor with your throat slit in 62 seconds if it included chasing someone down a hallway and them shooting you. That alone, I suggest would take at least 62 seconds.

  483. 03/25/2013 at 9:18 am

    Goooood morning MMD how are you sweet thang??? 😀

    soz been busy with replies I neglected you, forgive me please

  484. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 9:24 am

    Forgiven darlin’ – I’m trying to get caught up with some other things as well 🙂

  485. 03/25/2013 at 9:26 am

    Did you sleep well? I had a really good sleep today and I’m feeling way better than I did yesterday. Was firing only on 2 cylinders max last night I reckon.

  486. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 9:38 am

    I’m glad that you had a good sleep. I think I’ll be only firing on 2 cylinders UNTIL the trial is over. Even then it may take time to get back to normal, if I ever was – no need to comment darlin’

    All I can say, is thank God for donchais and all the people on this blog. If I didn’t have this I would surely be around the bend with no possible hope of finding my way back. 😉

  487. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 9:42 am

    Have you reconciled the duct tape yet? I’ve heard 2 theories
    1. has nothing to do with case
    2. JA had knife stuck to the back of her leg under her pants

    I think the general consensus though is that it is #1. We sure as hell know that JA will bloody well never tell us the truth! ya can take that to the bank!

  488. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 9:46 am

    Already stressing out because I made plans months ago to go to something on Wednesday night – just a few hours and was really excited about it.

    Now it turns out that it is going to fall smack dab into the Wednesday afternoon testimony and I have only watched everything live, unless I’ve gone back to have another looksee! I truly am on the dark side when I don’t want to have fun at a concert but rather be watching this trial 😦

  489. 03/25/2013 at 9:46 am

    I was wondering if maybe Travis’ reaction to his childhood was to sort of do the opposite of me. He was an outgoing character from the get-go, I hypothesize. I was always Very shy.

    .. maybe there’s something he latched onto in effort to deal with life, like his potential sell-out comedic wit & timing (sorry, but I think there was an element of genius there). My second oldest brother took on this role when my mom was ill. He was my comedic relief. I’ve never asked him, but maybe that’s why he was like that.

    …. Travis’ light has been spread to more people than he could have ever imagined. (good from bad) Although that light was taken from us, it is now being lit so as to never be extinguished. Score 1 for the benefits of mod tech!

    Anna,

    Your gut instinct is accurate.

    What you describe is not at all uncommon. It sounds like your brother and Travis took on similar roles. Trying not to state the obvious we are all individual with very different sets of feelings and coping mechanisms.

    An empathetic outgoing leader type characteristic could result in choosing the role your brother and Travis seem to have taken. A more sensitive, introverted nature could cope by turning inward resulting in extreme shyness.

    There are specific personality types identified by Carl Jung. The are sites you can do this test on. Initially developed by Jung it has since been revised by Myers Briggs.

    Here is a link to it. Be warned it is quite long but accurate.

    http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

  490. 03/25/2013 at 9:47 am

    *correction Briggs Myers sorry.

  491. 03/25/2013 at 9:49 am

    Essem :
    Jad you clearly have a legal background thanks for sharing the reality. I guess I was being generous with my thoughts on Nurmi and Willmot as the face value was just too awful. Syntara GO TO BED you should get a few hours sleep before start. It’s midnight here so it’s time I went to sleep.

    Essem I got up latish my afternoon! I’m wicked refreshed at the moment!! 😀

  492. 03/25/2013 at 9:56 am

    Gah I asked this above but its lost in the post cos I farked up a tag. Just to put it out there clearly

    “Briefly how does the court appointed system work.. Ie how are the appointed attorneys chosen and by whom?”

  493. donchais
    03/25/2013 at 10:02 am

    Syntara :

    Gah I asked this above but its lost in the post cos I farked up a tag. Just to put it out there clearly

    “Briefly how does the court appointed system work.. Ie how are the appointed attorneys chosen and by whom?”

    The Public Defenders office chooses who gets which case. Usually on a rotation basis and depends what the workload is.

  494. 03/25/2013 at 10:06 am

    Note re: humanMetrics typology link – that is not the actual MBTi but it is a close and worthwhile proforma and based on it. I was running through the questions and noted differences .. then read the fine print. Sorry for any confusion my error causes.

    At least unlike Dr Dodgy I didn’t realise my mistake years later and consider this the addendum

    😀

  495. 03/25/2013 at 10:08 am

    Thank You Donchais. 🙂 How are you today by the way?

    • donchais
      03/25/2013 at 10:08 am

      Good thanks…see you’ve been busy, lol!

  496. 03/25/2013 at 10:20 am

    hahah yeah Donchais. Hope it’s ok?

  497. 03/25/2013 at 10:20 am

    @Syntara I’ve been lurking for some time, only commented once before but I wanted to clarify about lake Mead/Hoover Dam. There is a new bridge over the dam now, before this was completed one had to drive on top of the dam itself to get across. There were tons of tourists on the dam almost all the time and there are video cameras and guards post 9-11 for security purposes. That’s the security checkpoint mentioned in the trial; a few miles before the dam there is a checkpoint where trucks and larger vehicles are inspected. The inspectors only peek in the windows of passenger cars in my experience (my parents lived near the Hoover Dam from 2004 to 2012).

    The dam itself is highly visible on both sides; it is a long way down. I don’t think anyone could throw an item off the dam without being spotted. At night… maybe, but I doubt it; there are tons of lights on the dam itself.

    I don’t think she tossed the gun right out on the side of the road either. It would be too likely to be found. I do know that one can detour off 93 (road one would take to get to the Hoover Dam from I40) north of Kingman to Lake Mead and the south rim of the Grand Canyon where it is *very* secluded. It’s speculation, of course, but there are many places much more suited to concealment in that desert than the Hoover Dam. There were about 300 miles put on her rental car that aren’t accounted for with her known trip from what I understand.

    Just my two cents from my experience in the area. Hope that answers your questions.

  498. 03/25/2013 at 10:22 am

    MMD :
    I’m glad that you had a good sleep. I think I’ll be only firing on 2 cylinders UNTIL the trial is over. Even then it may take time to get back to normal, if I ever was – no need to comment darlin’
    All I can say, is thank God for donchais and all the people on this blog. If I didn’t have this I would surely be around the bend with no possible hope of finding my way back.

    Amen to that. I had NO idea what I was missing.

  499. 03/25/2013 at 10:29 am

    Kristenten
    Thank You so much!

    so when you say new dam is this dam since June 2008 or prior? I’m assuming the security cams etc were there in 2008 as it sounds like they would have been installed somewhere much closer to September 2001?

  500. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 10:32 am

    Syntara, Thank you for your comments. You said, “A more sensitive, introverted nature could cope by turning inward resulting in extreme shyness.” That was me without the ‘extreme’. I will go take that test sometime. But will I find out something scary about myself? 🙂 Thanks again, nice person.

    Now, it’s almost Juantime and I’m gettin’ everything done that needs doin’ before that clock strikes Juan o’clock! See y’all round the bend.

  501. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 10:32 am

    donchais :
    Good thanks…see you’ve been busy, lol!

    Isn’t she always!!!! it ain’t gonna be pretty once she crashes 😉

    How’s the sciatica? Did you try the pillow between your knees when you sleep?

  502. 03/25/2013 at 10:45 am

    Anna :
    Syntara, Thank you for your comments. You said, “A more sensitive, introverted nature could cope by turning inward resulting in extreme shyness.” That was me without the ‘extreme’. I will go take that test sometime. But will I find out something scary about myself? Thanks again, nice person.
    Now, it’s almost Juantime and I’m gettin’ everything done that needs doin’ before that clock strikes Juan o’clock! See y’all round the bend.

    Anna,

    soz, the extreme was only meant to indicate a worst type scenario. The range could be anywhere from mild to extreme would have been more accurate. My bad.

    No you will not find anything bad about yourself doing an MBTi.

    It is actually all very positive, there is no right wrong or best worst. You may see something there you wish wasn’t or something in another type you wish was in yours.

    Once you get a personality typing there are many many sites to go to that give explanations for the types and historical figures of who was what for you to cry or rejoice over. 🙂

    My type is the same as Carl Jung so for me it was like YES! lol

    He being the father of psychology and the author of the original test itself, naturally he’s one of my ‘heroes’.

  503. 03/25/2013 at 10:45 am

    The dam itself is the same one built in the 1930s. After 9-11-2001 the dam was considered a prime target for terrorist attacks as it being destroyed would flood a large area and cause massive infrastructure damage, not to mention the interruption of water and energy supplies to large parts of three states. Because of this danger a bridge over the dam was constructed but was not completed until October of 2010. I don’t think driving across the dam itself is allowed anymore. In 2008 passenger vehicles were still allowed to drive over the dam but commercial traffic was diverted around the dam. Everyone had to stop at a checkpoint for inspection before getting close to the dam. Security was installed late 2001 after the 9-11 attacks so it would have been in place in 2008.

    The bridge now keeps traffic away from the dam entirely.

  504. 03/25/2013 at 10:49 am

    Sorry “bridge over the dam” is inaccurate; it is more of a bridge crossing the canyon before you get to the dam; a bypass.

  505. 03/25/2013 at 10:50 am

    Essem and MMD….

    *sitting over here in corner red faced raising hand Re: Detective Esteban Flores… ummm me too ”

    why is this case turning me into some kind of demented bone jumper? It’s so unlike me!

  506. 03/25/2013 at 10:52 am

    Good morning all ~~ Are we ready for JUAN today??? Tracey and I have our brooms ready. LOL!!!!

  507. 03/25/2013 at 10:56 am

    Kristenten.. ok totally clear on it now. Thank You heaps for that.

    So likely she got rid of the gun way a more than safe distance before that.

    *sarcasm alert* Isn’t it lucky she came out of her fog right before the checkpoint so she could go through unbloodied and without the evidence on her?

  508. 03/25/2013 at 10:59 am

    Vickee :
    Good morning all ~~ Are we ready for JUAN today??? Tracey and I have our brooms ready. LOL!!!!

    Vickeee… trepidatious

    and hurro to you *waves* 😀

  509. 03/25/2013 at 11:02 am

    Donchais : Good thanks…see you’ve been busy, lol!

    MMD: Isn’t she always!!!! it ain’t gonna be pretty once she crashes

    pfffffft

  510. 03/25/2013 at 11:07 am

    got “the heat is Juan” pumping through the stereo and mirroring to my large screen TV at the moment…

    refreshments ladies? mmwmwmwhahaha

  511. 03/25/2013 at 11:19 am

    jad There are cases that were turned down where the appointed counsel fell asleep during the questioning of a witness in a crucial part of the case, only to be jabbed awake because it was his turn at bat to question the witness

    hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

    I swear I saw Wormi about to do this the other day. Imagine if he had and Wilmott saw it and prodded him. That would just add to the farce this very serious case has become.

  512. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 11:25 am

    Syntara, you are awesome to volunteer such insightful information! I looked back at my post and I did say “Very shy”. One extreme I have fought is being highly sensitive. Read a book like 10 years ago called “The Highly Sensitive Person.” I read it because of my daughter, but learned I had the same issue she does. What an eye-opener that was! But that’s just an inherited issue, don’t you think? Anyway, being a sensitive really stinks at times, I can tell you that much. Thank you again for engaging me. I do hope for more rejoicing than crying when I get my results back! :]

  513. 03/25/2013 at 11:33 am

    Anna let me know what your result is if you do end up taking it. I’m guessing what it might be so I’d be interested to see how close I am. 🙂 and don’t worry… the crying was exaggerated…… .well maybe not LOL!

  514. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 11:54 am

    Syntara, I just took the test but I want to know what you think the result is before I tell you….and that may help you score me as well, I guess…hehehe

  515. 03/25/2013 at 11:54 am

    MMD :
    Have you reconciled the duct tape yet? I’ve heard 2 theories
    1. has nothing to do with case
    2. JA had knife stuck to the back of her leg under her pants
    I think the general consensus though is that it is #1. We sure as hell know that JA will bloody well never tell us the truth! ya can take that to the bank!

    OMG that could be the answer. why?

    1. To have it hidden if she was pulled over getting to his house. She did say aomething about often getting pulled over for speeding or something. That shows it was on her mind.

    2. After slipping out the knife she removed the duct tape either when she came in or as she left ie why it’s in the laundry ………….. oh no I have to go look at her nekked shot to look for signs of tape or marks on her legs (not the rear garage thankfully!) Yikes!

    3. Also explains the bell bottom pants… nothing tight near the shin/calf area.. lots material easily hide the fact it’s taped to her leg.

    This could well be the answer.

  516. Lisa M
    03/25/2013 at 11:57 am

    Response to Syntara:

    “Stop there. that’s really all you need focus on.”

    Syntara I hear you! Like I said in my postI’m well aware of how evil JA. I was just pointing out that even though it may not be fair, I think it’s harder to put to death a woman like Jodi, who on the surface seems gentle, even if you know that she’s anything but behind the facade. And believe me, I find her as hateful as anyone else. She makes me see red. I couldn’t even watch her testimony half the time because I would become so enraged. I just wonder if, even with all the aggravating factors in this case, the jury might have a problem giving her the DP. Once the rebuttal wraps up and victim impact statements are read, maybe at that point the DP will seem like more likely. I mean she hasn’t really done anything to make her remotely likable so I could be wrong. I also have found myself wondering what goes into the decision to seek the DP other than the nature of the crime. I mean prosecutors make decisions for expediency all the time and going for the DP requires going out on a limb so I just hope the State didn’t take too much of a risk by seeking it. So far it doesn’t seem like it has, but- and I’m sorry to beat a dead horse again- we all know what happened with CA.
    Oh and thanks Jad for that information re: appealable issues and whether or not they’re likely. It’s good to know that if JA is convicted, a successful appeal based on defense incompetence is highly unlikely.

  517. 03/25/2013 at 11:58 am

    LOL Anna I’m not Dr Dodgy Im not going to pre-empt your typology! Granted I have a type in mind but by no means would I testify to it’s veracity. Scientists don’t work like that! so shoosh and tell me!

  518. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 12:02 pm

    Woot Woot!! 📢📢📢
    59 minutes!!!

  519. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 12:09 pm

    Syntara, LMAO! But you’re my sane evaluator..! Okay, okay…here ’tis:
    INFJ
    Introvert(44%) iNtuitive(25%) Feeling(25%) Judging(56%)
    I’m reading about myself now….so bizarre that someone can figure me out so well…fascinating and highly insightful. Very scary when it says I could be the type to seek revenge, though. That’s not me at all and it doesn’t seem to fit the type anyway, to me. The report is so well written. Thank you again. Very cool. Soooooo, what did you think it might be????
    Anyway, you’re gonna need a p.o. box so I can pay my bill for your services. I hope you’re not $250/hr!

  520. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 12:12 pm

    Syntara :
    *sitting over here in corner red faced raising hand Re: Detective Esteban Flores… ummm me too ”
    why is this case turning me into some kind of demented bone jumper? It’s so unlike me!

    Could your true self be coming out…………………. or is it just because you are temporarily in the dark side because of this case?????????????? It’s doing strange things to everyone 😉

  521. 03/25/2013 at 12:14 pm

    LisaM I mean prosecutors make decisions for expediency all the time and going for the DP requires going out on a limb

    I think Juan baby has way more integrity than that. People understand he is doing it for Travis, he is doing it for the family in a very genuine way. That is why he now has a cult following. His true nature is palpable and these days it’s a very rare quality especially in the legal system.

    His tenacity comes not from an egocentric base but an altruistic one. That is why I love him anyhow. I respect very few people these days. JM happens to be one of them. I believe in this case and that is all I can speak on, the DP has been sought because the DP is deserved.

    While I do not sit on the jury, I do not need them to tell me what I know. That is JA is an evil creature that I do not want on my planet.

    In case you missed it.. I am/was? vehemently anti DP. It was aboloished long long ago here. Last man executed in my state of Western Australia was on 26 October 1964. Last man executed in Australia was 13 February 1967.

    I would however flick the switched to empty those bottles for Jodi Arias. Never before have I felt DP justifiable. This is my first exception.

  522. 03/25/2013 at 12:19 pm

    Anna 😀 one of the two I suspected Tells me a heap about you!

  523. 03/25/2013 at 12:21 pm

    I suspected INFJ or INFP by your description in your post re your history.

  524. 03/25/2013 at 12:25 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Woot Woot!!
    59 minutes!!!

    let the countdown begin!!! thanks Marilyn soooo cool I wont have to keep asking!

    ———-

    MMD Im ignoring your question and/or pleading the fifth

  525. Anonymous
    03/25/2013 at 12:29 pm

    How if JA cannot form new memories during her fog, as the doctor states, does JA remember the knife hitting the tile floor and screaming when she was done carving him up?

  526. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 12:35 pm

    Syntara :
    MMD Im ignoring your question and/or pleading the fifth

    Just embrace it darlin’ LOL 😉

  527. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 12:40 pm

    Syntara, I hope it’s not a steaming heap! 🙂

    I used to wonder why Juan didn’t use notes very much but now I think it’s because he 1) knows this case backward in his sleep and 2) he is so passionate and determined to win that notes might slow him down in his tracks. He is honored to honor Travis and strive for true justice – to see this woman hang for the wicked she done.

  528. 03/25/2013 at 12:58 pm

    Anonymous :
    How if JA cannot form new memories during her fog, as the doctor states, does JA remember the knife hitting the tile floor and screaming when she was done carving him up?

    In a nutshell? Because JA is full of crap
    ___

    Anna I agree.. that with his obvious intellect and almost photographic spongelike memory he is just Juantastic!
    ________

    MMD I hope you’re not slipping of the chair in excitement over there!

  529. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 12:58 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Travis’ family is taking their seats. Dennis is at the camera. Jodi’s aunt and sister are still not here.

    OK Folks let’s get started on time please – and damn we have Dr. Quack up first – forgot about him 😦

  530. 03/25/2013 at 12:59 pm

    Where’s everyone else? Are they gonna show up when it’s on?

  531. 03/25/2013 at 1:00 pm

    Jodi’s aunt and sister….

    stealing CCC’s *finger down throat…..barf*

  532. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Lissette Martinez@martinezliss

    #juanmartinez approached me in court about my story on him and his effect on the ladies who follow the #JodiArias trial, looked embarrassed

    Isn’t that cute – he is such a humble man, my humble man! 🙂

  533. 03/25/2013 at 1:03 pm

    I need two TVs side by side.. so I can have The Heat is Juan going on one continuously and mute/power up the volume as required.

  534. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:05 pm

    Syntara :
    I need two TVs side by side.. so I can have The Heat is Juan going on one continuously and mute/power up the volume as required.

    Sounds like a plan SYn LOL

  535. 03/25/2013 at 1:05 pm

    what what what did he say to her! I wanna know. Was that the story we had the link to in here? The one re the cane signing?

    I love that man! MY MAN!

  536. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:06 pm

    Syn – I mean truly, I’m here, you’re here, we’re ready, the livestream is on the seal, lets get this show on the road!!!!!!!!!!!

  537. 03/25/2013 at 1:07 pm

    Either that or go steal Bfs ipad have that streaming the trial and heat is Juan playing on my imac 😀 Sounds more like I’m on heat LOL! *bottoms up*

  538. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:07 pm

    Syn – she didn’t tweet it out but I’ll just ask him myself for ya 😉

  539. 03/25/2013 at 1:08 pm

    MMD :
    Syn – I mean truly, I’m here, you’re here, we’re ready, the livestream is on the seal, lets get this show on the road!!!!!!!!!!!

    ABSOFREAKINLOOTELY !!!! MMD maybe it will help if you put your hands on your hips?

  540. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:09 pm

    Yes it was the we watched before.

    azcentral.com/video/22456581…

  541. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:10 pm

    Lissette Martinez@martinezlisshere is the link to my story on martinez and his pull with the lady trial watchers #JodiaArias azcentral.com/video/22456581…

  542. 03/25/2013 at 1:11 pm

    I never thought I would be a groupie!

  543. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:12 pm

    I don’t know why that link is not turning blue cause that is what she tweeted. I’ll try another tweet

    Lissette\’s story on prosecutor Juan Martinez: http://www.azcentral.com

    That still only gets ya to the main site. Let me check my files – one moment……….

  544. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:14 pm
  545. 03/25/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Don’t worry MMD … chill and enjoy the show!

  546. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:16 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Attorneys are in chambers. Stay tuned. We are not live yet

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Many followers are interested in catching the Nurmi chicken wing, watch for it! It might happen today

  547. 03/25/2013 at 1:17 pm

    where’s chrissie, laine, Trace and all of em? Grace, Vickee, Anna, Marilyn etc etc etc

  548. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:18 pm

    and away we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  549. 03/25/2013 at 1:18 pm

    Noise I have the Judge No Control on mine

  550. LindaLou
    03/25/2013 at 1:18 pm

    Syntara :
    I never thought I would be a groupie!

    Hey groupie, how’s it going? Just had my lunch – lets get started here. Someone on HLN just said Dr. Wacko may be on the stand the entire day.

  551. 03/25/2013 at 1:19 pm

    Where is everyone….Dodgy is up!!

  552. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:19 pm

    They probably figure it is starting at 10:30 rather than 10:00 and figured it would be even later.

  553. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Hope Dr Sham has his rolling suitcase files organized!!

  554. 03/25/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Hey LindaLou! 😀 hope you are well.

  555. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:20 pm

    JA and Willmott – aka the twins again!!! smh

  556. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 1:21 pm

    Hi luvvies – getting ready for some JaunAction I’m working today so I’ll be popping in and out

  557. 03/25/2013 at 1:21 pm

    hahaha and not b4 time

    l

    Syntara :
    Hey LindaLou! hope you are well.

  558. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:21 pm

    I am NOT even believing what I see.
    The other twins both dressed in white!

  559. 03/25/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Jesus matching white OMFG its blinding!

    omg that last comment is so wrong….. excited when I saw Juan baby!

  560. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 1:23 pm

    Geez I need sunglasses to look at the defense table – lol

  561. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:23 pm

    👀 Miss W

  562. 03/25/2013 at 1:23 pm

    even Wormy *grabs sunnies*

  563. 03/25/2013 at 1:23 pm

    LOL snap Chrissie

  564. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:24 pm

    Wurmi’s finger up nose already.
    And I guess we have triplets as he is in white as well.

  565. 03/25/2013 at 1:25 pm

    what the hell he didn’t have her answers in his hand so he made them up??? LOL * down the rabbit hole bottoms up*

  566. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 1:26 pm

    Dr Dirt should be declared a hostile witness!

  567. 03/25/2013 at 1:26 pm

    roflmao yep yep its *let’s do the time warp again* It’s just a jump to the left lalalalala

  568. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 1:27 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Wurmi’s finger up nose already.
    And I guess we have triplets as he is in white as well.

    He’s massaging his brain

  569. 03/25/2013 at 1:27 pm

    LOL chrissie I think that’s the idea.. that’s why he is in black!

  570. 03/25/2013 at 1:29 pm

    They dont want the Jury associating the defense with him so they have ensured the separation is as distinct as possible.

  571. 03/25/2013 at 1:31 pm

    LOL… Dr It-Isn’t-my-fault-it’s-his

  572. LindaLou
    03/25/2013 at 1:31 pm

    It seems everything he did was in a “hasty fashion”.

  573. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:31 pm

    DId ya catch WIllmott shaking her head at Dr. Quack??? so funny my fingers aren’t working right 😦

  574. 03/25/2013 at 1:32 pm

    He’s on vacation and decides to randomly rescore Jodi’s test without her full paperwork??

    *down the rabbit hole bottoms up* biy Im gonna be blind drunk real quick tonight!

  575. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:33 pm

    ooooooooo – when JM asks those quick “where were you” type questions, he know exactly
    where he is going.

    He definitely knows this case inside and out, and upside down and every which way
    and he knows stuff we haven’t even heard yet!! I think he has a reason for making this
    case DP…..

    JUst my non-expert opinion.

  576. 03/25/2013 at 1:34 pm

    MMD :
    DId ya catch WIllmott shaking her head at Dr. Quack??? so funny my fingers aren’t working right

    Missed it! lol funny

  577. Janeto
    03/25/2013 at 1:34 pm

    http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

    Hi Syn
    Oh boy………I cannot lie…..I took the test too, and came up with ISFJ. Is that bad???

  578. Rache
    03/25/2013 at 1:34 pm

    Somebody tell me……what impact on the jury do JA and lawyer hope to have by dressing nearly identically? I am old or maybe dense….I just don’t get it. I would love to hear your thoughts.

  579. 03/25/2013 at 1:35 pm

    Oh he kniows what he’s doing.. MY Juan baby is wicked smart!

  580. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 1:35 pm

    One of his many test “copies” lol he can’t keep track

  581. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:35 pm

    Nice shirt and tie JM has on today!

    Air-ith-matic error!!

  582. 03/25/2013 at 1:36 pm

    Rache :
    Somebody tell me……what impact on the jury do JA and lawyer hope to have by dressing nearly identically? I am old or maybe dense….I just don’t get it. I would love to hear your thoughts.

    Its so they are perceived subliminally not to be associated with Dr Dodgy’s black is my guess.

  583. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:36 pm

    When he’s talking, in his mini lecture here, he keeps looking at the defense as if to say ” am I doing it the way ya want?”

  584. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:37 pm

    OMG – those buggy 👀 eyes drive me nuts!!! Is it just me???

  585. 03/25/2013 at 1:38 pm

    He has so many copies he forgets which one he is talking about so has to ask for date references wtf there should be one and one only… if that original was copied all copies should be the same!

    Dr Dodgy Dr Dodgy

    Oh it’s someone else’s fault again! OMG now he is saying something is forged?

  586. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 1:38 pm

    MMD :
    When he’s talking, in his mini lecture here, he keeps looking at the defense as if to say ” am I doing it the way ya want?”

    Hi MMD!!! I saw that too – plus he nods yes when he says no

  587. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:39 pm

    Wow, Miss W was r e e a l l y swinging her arm on her way up to the sidebar!!

  588. Rache
    03/25/2013 at 1:40 pm

    Thanks, Syntara. That makes sense.

  589. 03/25/2013 at 1:40 pm

    MMD :
    When he’s talking, in his mini lecture here, he keeps looking at the defense as if to say ” am I doing it the way ya want?”

    miss the visuals cos Im listening intently Ill have to catch those on the youtube version.

  590. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:40 pm

    Oh the original twins have their tie dye look going on!!

  591. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:41 pm

    And Jodi is sketching the million dollar picture.

  592. 03/25/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Rache :
    Thanks, Syntara. That makes sense.

    I dont think it’s gonna work tho lol

  593. LindaLou
    03/25/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Wow, Miss W was r e e a l l y swinging her arm on her way up to the sidebar!!

    Needs momentum to move those little legs in that tight suit!

  594. 03/25/2013 at 1:43 pm

    LOL as I said The last day of trial, does he know anything

  595. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:43 pm

    He’s just like JA – nuthin is ever his fault

  596. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Marilyn N :
    And Jodi is sketching the million dollar picture.

    She has to get the illuminating effect of Dr Sham’s head just right…….

  597. 03/25/2013 at 1:44 pm

    He uses an automatic what for what??? does he DO anything himself???????

  598. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:44 pm

    Syntara :
    LOL as I said The last day of trial, does he know anything

    Nope!!!! unless it’s the def asking

  599. 03/25/2013 at 1:45 pm

    JA has been trying to give him obfuscation lessons but he’s a somewhat poor student.

  600. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:45 pm

    MMD :
    He’s just like JA – nuthin is ever his fault

    Well at least they’re together on that fact!

  601. 03/25/2013 at 1:46 pm

    @Syntara you said you’ve been studying psychology for 8 years, what career field are you planning to go into? I’m studying psychiatry and psychology to be a PMHNP (psychiatric nurse practitioner). Does Australia has an equivalent to American NPs (advanced practice nurses who are able to do *almost* everything a MD can do)?

    My impression from reading your comments is you are going into research. Are you close to your goal? Eight years could mean you’re almost done or you have a few years yet depending on your end goal in psychology in America.

    I’m just curious. You sound like a person who would be fun to have over for coffee and conversation.

    I have to say Dr. Samuel’s is so egregiously unethical I can’t believe it. He sounds like a ethics textbook hypothetical of what *not* to do in a criminal evaluation. I’m hoping he is sanctioned in some way after all is said and done.

    It also drives me crazy that he says he went into the evaluation with his “hypothesis” and when the first test confirmed it he stopped testing. This is not how science works! Especially an “impartial evaluation”. As Sherlock Holmes says (paraphrased), ‘It is fatal to theorize without data; if one builds a theory before knowing the facts, one inevitably begins manipulating the data to match their theory’.

  602. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:46 pm

    I see a ring on Flores’s finger for anyone who wants to know…..

  603. 03/25/2013 at 1:46 pm

    LL Needs momentum to move those little legs in that tight suit!

    hahahah good one

  604. Lisa M
    03/25/2013 at 1:46 pm

    Is it me or is JAs nose becoming larger every day?

  605. 03/25/2013 at 1:47 pm

    rofl I know you want to jump the gun but lets slow it down a little bit

    GO JUAN BABY

  606. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Lissette Martinez@martinezliss
    lots of the jurors taking notes during this diagnosis part #JodiaArias

    Michael Kiefer@michaelbkiefer@martinezliss
    Are they taking notes or writing suicide notes?

    Too funny LOL

  607. 03/25/2013 at 1:48 pm

    he drifted off ion the end of that answer..even he couldnt say whatever it was audibly cos it was such crapola

  608. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Jodi must have told Dr. Shamuels she likes the little fuzzy long hairs he has going on
    so he’s letting it grow.

  609. 03/25/2013 at 1:50 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Jodi must have told Dr. Shamuels she likes the little fuzzy long hairs he has going on
    so he’s letting it grow.

    LOL

  610. 03/25/2013 at 1:51 pm

    Lisa M :
    Is it me or is JAs nose becoming larger every day?

    seriously I thin k it is… I was thinking the other day… well ya pinnochio (sp)

  611. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:51 pm

    The way Flores hand was angled holding up his head it was hard to see

  612. katz63md
    03/25/2013 at 1:52 pm

    Actions from the courtroom today – rip rip rip shred shred shred.

  613. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:53 pm

    Yep, Flores def. has a ring on…………………..

  614. 03/25/2013 at 1:53 pm

    Marilyn N :
    I see a ring on Flores’s finger for anyone who wants to know…..

    Yeah meant to say I think I noticed one in the first interview when she was slithering across the table to him. I

  615. 03/25/2013 at 1:54 pm

    oh god Mommy Dearest is wearing yet another dress made out of the curtains

  616. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:54 pm

    I’m gettin real tired of WIllmott’s little sidebars – JM will not be deterred in proving his points!!!! Go Juan!!!!!!!!!!!!

  617. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:55 pm

    syn: “slithering” hahahahaha

  618. 03/25/2013 at 1:55 pm

    katz63md :
    Actions from the courtroom today – rip rip rip shred shred shred.

    LOL and notice he said that paper JM had wasnt supposed to be admitted that he had it on the desk but JM wasnt supposed to see it ROFLMAO!!!! seriously wth???

  619. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:56 pm

    That poor Alexander family looks tired out where as JA looks nice and rested. Grrrrrrrrrrr

  620. 03/25/2013 at 1:58 pm

    its harrowing for the Alexanders… the Ariarses are too stupid and uncaring to give a sh*t

  621. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Hello all…Just stoppig by for a moment…SYN–loved the idea of playing Heats on Juan when they have sidebars!

  622. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Oh I so hope JM can bring in evidence that JA’s name was originally on the Cancun ticket
    (if, in fact, that turns out to be true). Can’t trust a lot of the media gossip.

  623. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Gidget seems like someone stuck something up her butt today or else she totally loaded for bear!

  624. Lisa M
    03/25/2013 at 2:00 pm

    You know how in The Picture of Dorian Gray Gray stays young but his portrait gets older and older? I feel like the opposite is happening with Jodi. Her true self is showing more and mevery day in court. She seems to be getting uglier and uglier as if the evil is showing through.

  625. 03/25/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Hey Robert *waves*

  626. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 2:00 pm

    also judge should tell little miss whitey that she shouldn’t interrupt so much. Its getting insane.

  627. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Hey Robert – Glad you could join 🙂

  628. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Yeah, I think you’re right Lisa, although is could be just my complete disgust of her growing and growing

  629. Lisa M
    03/25/2013 at 2:02 pm

    More and more every, NOT mevery. Lol.

  630. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 2:02 pm

    I was hoping Juanderful would ask Dr Fog if he billed the state while he was in Palm Springs

  631. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Syntara :
    its harrowing for the Alexanders… the Ariarses are too stupid and uncaring to give a sh*t

    Mama’s there to write a book and make some money

  632. 03/25/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    also judge should tell little miss whitey that she shouldn’t interrupt so much. Its getting insane.

    desperation showing?

  633. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 2:03 pm

    he wallowed out of the pool and decided to score the test again! Charge AZ for it!

  634. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:04 pm

    when court is on Lisa it’s amazing what everyone can decipher LOL

  635. 03/25/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Like I said the other day… Juan barely interrupted cos he want to let the jurors decide he sensed their mood.

    Gidget doesnt have a clue in that respect, not a clue. But that’s typical ..no time to explain why but trust me it is

  636. 03/25/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    I was hoping Juanderful would ask Dr Fog if he billed the state while he was in Palm Springs

    ooo ye she did… hence the I was working on the case omg omg omg

  637. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 2:06 pm
  638. 03/25/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    he wallowed out of the pool and decided to score the test again! Charge AZ for it!

    NO NO NO NO I will not have that visual in my head

  639. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Oh Jodi must be more careful, I could read her lips there…

  640. Lisa M
    03/25/2013 at 2:07 pm

    And this matching clothes with Wilmott is pretty ridiculous. Very high school. I find it offensive. This isn’t a Spring fashion trial. This is a murder trial! What is wrong with these people?

  641. LindaLou
    03/25/2013 at 2:08 pm

    JA always sits tall and straight, like ‘look at me, this is all about me’. Is this all part of “the game” Syntara?

  642. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:08 pm

    All Gidget is doing is pissing off the jury and us

  643. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:08 pm

    Chrissie – is that a woman in the green??

  644. 03/25/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Oh Jodi must be more careful, I could read her lips there…

    ..and?????? tell us!!!

  645. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Chrissie – is that a woman in the green??

    Yep, they are her new jailbuds

  646. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Greetings all!!! 🙂 Taking me a while to get caught up this morning. Feeling a bit “foggy” this morning. I see that JA & JW are matching again; right down to the black under shirts. WTF??? GAG!

    Grabbing some more coffee and getting caught up….

  647. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:10 pm

    She said: _______ my mom?

  648. 03/25/2013 at 2:10 pm

    LindaLou :
    JA always sits tall and straight, like ‘look at me, this is all about me’. Is this all part of “the game” Syntara?

    It’s part of her projected character, yes

  649. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Why didn’t she just shoot her mom??

  650. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:12 pm

    I just want to JAB a pencil thru that hole in Jodi’s lips!!

  651. 03/25/2013 at 2:12 pm

    MMD :
    All Gidget is doing is pissing off the jury and us

    Exactly these are their questions they want to know

  652. 03/25/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Hiiiii Trace 😀

  653. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:14 pm

    35 years of screwing up peoples’ lives. truly sad!

  654. 03/25/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Why didn’t she just shoot her mom??

    LOL omg

  655. 03/25/2013 at 2:15 pm

    Hey gang, I just got in. How much have I missed. Anything?

  656. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:15 pm

    Marilyn N :
    I just want to JAB a pencil thru that hole in Jodi’s lips!!

    lol

  657. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:15 pm

    I wonder how he kept track of all the paperwork from those 100’s and 100’s of diagnosis.

  658. 03/25/2013 at 2:16 pm

    Lisa M :
    And this matching clothes with Wilmott is pretty ridiculous. Very high school. I find it offensive. This isn’t a Spring fashion trial. This is a murder trial! What is wrong with these people?

    Dissociative behaviour

  659. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Just tuned in and so many comments to catch up on! Everyone has great insights into this trial! I wish these defense witnesses would answer the questions to the best of their ability
    as they should and move it along PLEASE, Quit looking over at the defense table to c if you’re doing ok…
    Any ideas as to how much longer the trial is to go on?
    tracey: Doc Drew did not call me back even after I left a message…. drag

  660. 03/25/2013 at 2:17 pm

    I jsut had to reread a post Ive got PTSD

  661. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:17 pm

    oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh The dr is getting peeeeeee oooooooooo ddddd!!

  662. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Hey bubble 🙂

    Ya, we all believe you that you aren’t watchin the trial = gimme a freakin break!

  663. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Whoa! Juan’s got Dr. Do Little a bit testy today.

    Hi Syn 🙂 ***waves***

  664. 03/25/2013 at 2:18 pm

    LO she cant relax in her jail cell enough to meditate??? …. oh definitely PTSD yep yep

  665. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Hey Trial watcher – now talking May

  666. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 2:19 pm

    All the comments about Arias being so intelligent has gone to her head LOL
    Trying to look like Jenny baby white on white Morons!!

  667. 03/25/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Will someone put a gag order on Willmottnot, pleasssse!!!!!

  668. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:20 pm

    yeah – jail is gonna kind of get to ya LOL

  669. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:21 pm

    This is just ludicrous!!!!
    Like she is the only one who would have a problem in a jail environment???!!!!
    I am screammmmmmmmminggggggggg now!!

  670. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 2:21 pm

    omg! she can’t sleep in prison…her mind wanders…therefore the stress of killing made her unable to sleep soundly. Well lets hope so!

  671. 03/25/2013 at 2:21 pm

    hyper vigilant.. she doesn’t like noise in jail andcan’t sleep properly oh yes thats PTSD definitely!

    Please Dr Dodgy …..

    Try spoilt brat!

  672. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:22 pm

    Vickee :
    Will someone put a gag order on Willmottnot, pleasssse!!!!!

    Yes pleasssssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeee. Flannel will be put away and back out again by the time this is over 😉

  673. 03/25/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Marilyn N :
    This is just ludicrous!!!!
    Like she is the only one who would have a problem in a jail environment???!!!!
    I am screammmmmmmmminggggggggg now!!

    Come down the rabbit hole with me, Marilyn, at the Mad Hatter Tea party.. * bottoms up*

  674. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    omg! she can’t sleep in prison…her mind wanders…therefore the stress of killing made her unable to sleep soundly. Well lets hope so!

    Hopefully if she gets the DP she won’t have that problem any more but it may be kinda hot where she’s going!!!!!!!!!

  675. 03/25/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Vickee :
    Will someone put a gag order on Willmottnot, pleasssse!!!!!

    LOL

  676. 03/25/2013 at 2:25 pm

    Trial watcher :
    All the comments about Arias being so intelligent has gone to her head LOL
    Trying to look like Jenny baby white on white Morons!!

    She isn’t intelligent she just manipulative

  677. 03/25/2013 at 2:26 pm

    Twins at the defense table, and twins in the audience. Reprehensible all!

  678. 03/25/2013 at 2:26 pm

    Oh futher to the gun strapped to her leg when she got to Travis’ hence the duct tape…. yes yes another supporting reason… The ninja story… was she playing female ninja? freudian slip again?

  679. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 2:26 pm

    Syntara :

    Lisa M :
    And this matching clothes with Wilmott is pretty ridiculous. Very high school. I find it offensive. This isn’t a Spring fashion trial. This is a murder trial! What is wrong with these people?

    Dissociative behaviour

    What is Dissociative behaviour? The twinzies creep me out big time. Makes me wanna spill something like red wine on accidental purpose. Sorry, that’s the revenge side in me I guess. Bad trait. Go away.

  680. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 2:27 pm

    MMD-I’d like to see her hung. Right after the trial like they did with Mrs urrat and Lincoln!

  681. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:27 pm

    So I guess the dr’s (although I really have a problem calling him a Dr.) point is,
    the murder is really Jodi’s Mom’s fault.

  682. 03/25/2013 at 2:29 pm

    well being of archaic freudian persuasion… yep I’d say so. Either that or the meteor.

  683. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:31 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    MMD-I’d like to see her hung. Right after the trial like they did with Mrs urrat and Lincoln!

    SOunds good to me. That way we eliminate any middle men for appeals and other crap!

  684. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Syntara :
    well being of archaic freudian persuasion… yep I’d say so. Either that or the meteor.

    or it could be the prosecutor’s fault – he keeps missing the good dr’s point LOL

  685. 03/25/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Tracey A ~ were you out flying around last nite? Hope the ‘fog’ lifts soon. ;0)

  686. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:34 pm

    Well he could have a ground breaking new theory that the cause is a combination of
    all three elements!

  687. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:35 pm

    It’s amazing how slow the def is at basic reading…………….. getting slower by the day

  688. 03/25/2013 at 2:35 pm

    Anna What is Dissociative behaviour? The twinzies creep me out big time. Makes me wanna spill something like red wine on accidental purpose. Sorry, that’s the revenge side in me I guess. Bad trait. Go away.

    Basically it’s when you detach from reality.

    For example the defense more worried about the outfits than the fact they are at the trial because a man was brutally, cruelly and heinously tortured ending in his throat being slashed.

  689. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:36 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    As Juan waits and talks to judge at the bench he reminds me of a child trying to get the chocolate sauce from top shelf in fridg

  690. 03/25/2013 at 2:38 pm

    omg omg the lights were too bright…. puhlease…. *bottoms up*

  691. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:38 pm

    Damn Dr, Quack is reading his answers – unfreakinbelievable!!!

  692. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:38 pm

    Lisa M :
    Wow, Tracy, that is some crazy stuff. Is DA still involved with PNJ? I hope not, but I have a feeling maybe! Has he or anyone ever reported her to the police? There needs to be a paper trail! I think if there’s anything to be learned from this horrible JA case, it’s that guys need to take the crazy women stalkers seriously!

    Yes! Unfortunately, DA is still seeing the PNJ. I’m aware of only one time that the police were called. I had a conversation with DA once where I expressed my concern for his safety because PNJ was so nuts. He brushed me off with an attitude there was no way she could hurt him. I’m guessing he knows nothing about this trial and JA.

  693. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:39 pm

    I wonder why the girls don’t have that expert woman sitting behind them, tuned in on the dress code of the day??

  694. 03/25/2013 at 2:39 pm

    thank heavens these aren’t tequilla shot! ooooeeee

  695. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Hi MMD!!! ***waving*** Still trying to get caught up. My “fog” is lifting a bit.

  696. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Are JA and Gidget playing hangman????

  697. 03/25/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Just wondering: How does the Son of Sam law work in AZ in regards to the artwork on EBAY? Does there have to be a conviction first? Or is the squirreling of artwork out of lockup and the courtroom legal as long as she doesn’t get caught?

  698. 03/25/2013 at 2:41 pm

    The white angelic act just isn’t working on me.

  699. 03/25/2013 at 2:42 pm

    yes and suicide threatening is one of the most notorious tools in a manipulators arsenal is it Dr Dodgyredoodle

  700. 03/25/2013 at 2:43 pm

    So cannot sleep in jail~ well I have a suggestion.
    Maybe now is a good time to commit suicide. Hope karma does not gets for that one. But enough is enough. Apparently she did not think thru all her actions against Travis since I am sure getting caught was not part of her plan. Wth???? She wants a suite in a hotel???

  701. 03/25/2013 at 2:43 pm

    MMD :
    Are JA and Gidget playing hangman????

    LOL that would be apt

  702. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:44 pm

    Syntara :

    Tracey A :
    SCK Damn! Thank you for the that! Great intel!!!! How did I not know that??????? How did I not no that??? My mom lives in Laughlin Nv. for God’s sake. :Maybe the gun is in Lake Movaje. near Davis Dam…She did say she was in the I-40. Come on!! That takes me to Laughlin NV where my mom lives. She wasn’t headed here…she was headed for Mesa.
    Sorry Observer! I respectfully digress to your diligence. My apologies… bowing head in respect

    Not putting the pieces together here. Trace when you get back can you explain this post to me. Sorry, can’t find the dots must be blind.

    I have no idea Syn. I might’ve been answering a previous question floating around my own head. LOL! I can’t find the post I’m looking for from SCK.

  703. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Oh jodi looks so important jotting down her notes –

  704. 03/25/2013 at 2:46 pm

    oh hell yeah shes unable to have loving feeling Dr Dragonsbreath – she a psycho freaking nutjob which also accounts for lack of or inappropriate affect Dr Doodlebrain

  705. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Even Wurmi is writing – His exercise for the day ……

  706. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 2:46 pm

    JA/Gidget playing hangman!!
    How Appropriate!!! Wonder who’s winning? LOL

  707. 03/25/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Trial watcher :
    JA/Gidget playing hangman!!
    How Appropriate!!! Wonder who’s winning? LOL

    JM

  708. 03/25/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Trial watcher :
    JA/Gidget playing hangman!!
    How Appropriate!!! Wonder who’s winning? LOL

    Ja’s losing she’s getting hung

  709. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:48 pm

    She is turning as white as her outfit.

  710. 03/25/2013 at 2:49 pm

    ooooommmmmmmmgggggggggg *glug glug glug* now we’re in the alternative universe.

  711. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 2:50 pm

    MMd, Syntara, Tracey,Anna and others
    Would love to get together with a big bunch of us sometime after trial What do u say?
    Oh I’m in Canada 4 hours from Vancouver can we meet there?? Anyone else ???
    Vodka caprioscas YUMMY

  712. 03/25/2013 at 2:51 pm

    I wouldnt chatacter lyimg as lying I’d call it an alternate universe.

    *glug* *glug* *glug* *glug**glug* *glug*

    back to the exorcise defense…. yep right now he’s thinking *shit shoulda gone with that*

  713. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:51 pm

    She wasn’t capable of telling the truth just yet….. (or ever!!)

  714. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 2:51 pm

    Vickee :
    Good morning all ~~ Are we ready for JUAN today??? Tracey and I have our brooms ready. LOL!!!!

    Lol Vickee!

  715. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 2:53 pm

    the doc is such a pompous ass; he can’t admit he’s wrong or sloppy. I wish Juan would have him go through what he actually did in each interview. I mean the first 6 she lied to him.; he keeps talking about all the interviews he had but he didn’t really talk top anyone! Every time he opens his mouth, the cause of psychology suffers for those watching who don’t know.He is sounding like a guy that writes horoscopes.

  716. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:54 pm

    7 minutes til lunch. Hope Jodi brought her lunch today!

  717. 03/25/2013 at 2:54 pm

    MMD~ thinking JUAN may need some of your lovin’ thoughts tonite~~~~~ Lol

  718. Jo
    03/25/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Are there any lawyers commenting who know whether JM can ask the Dr……are you aware that flat affect, extreme lying is also the sign of a psychopaths? Or would there be a mistrial if that question was asked. Thanks.

  719. 03/25/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Trial watcher :
    MMd, Syntara, Tracey,Anna and others
    Would love to get together with a big bunch of us sometime after trial What do u say?
    Oh I’m in Canada 4 hours from Vancouver can we meet there?? Anyone else ???
    Vodka caprioscas YUMMY

    Seychelles! Indian ocean side… Guam south pacific side

  720. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 2:57 pm

    another omission/error?

  721. 03/25/2013 at 2:57 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    the doc is such a pompous ass; he can’t admit he’s wrong or sloppy. I wish Juan would have him go through what he actually did in each interview. I mean the first 6 she lied to him.; he keeps talking about all the interviews he had but he didn’t really talk top anyone! Every time he opens his mouth, the cause of psychology suffers for those watching who don’t know.He is sounding like a guy that writes horoscopes.

    Ive given up after alternate realities and meteors Im now off with the fairies

  722. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Wurmi is fading………. . . . . . . . .

  723. 03/25/2013 at 3:00 pm

    the amnesia was responsible for yada yada the meteor was responsible for the meteor the universe was responsible for the meteor the alternate universe is just one of those universies…and by now if your not confused your damn bleeping good

  724. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:00 pm

    I don’t really understand the crater stuff

  725. 03/25/2013 at 3:02 pm

    that’s the meteor Marilyn

  726. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Is that streaks in Gidgets hair or gray? Why oh why would a decent defense lawyer and a woman at that find anything to like about jodi arias? Could u really find something to like about Jodi just having sat beside her for months? it goes to the IQ of JW!
    Has Wurmi and Wily found a woman of substance here LOL LOL LOL they all make me sick but no barf bags in my house. No weaklings here!!
    I’d like to kick Jodi’s Mom too, who the h-ll wouldn’t? have a good day all i’m away for mine…..

  727. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Oooooohh Miss W brought out her red sharpie!!

  728. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 3:03 pm

    appalling that they stop after all those sidebars. Judge should hang her head in shame at the pace of this trial.

  729. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:04 pm

    👀 blink 👀 blink 👀 hand on hips, scratch of head – “may we approach?”

  730. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 3:04 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I always expect to hear a tug boat horn when the word fog is brought up in court

  731. 03/25/2013 at 3:05 pm

    Can I just put this in there…..

    Perhaps Dr Jenius… in all psychological probability….. SHE’S LYING

  732. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 3:06 pm

    Tracey A :
    Hi MMD!!! ***waving*** Still trying to get caught up. My “fog” is lifting a bit.

    Hey Tracey – ******waves******** glad to hear about the fog!

  733. 03/25/2013 at 3:07 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    appalling that they stop after all those sidebars. Judge should hang her head in shame at the pace of this trial.

    Can I say I really don’t like this judge. From a totally non legal perspective just the way she seems to have no control of anything that is happening in his courtroom

  734. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:07 pm

    But but but – what does all this have to do with the murder??!!!???

  735. 03/25/2013 at 3:08 pm

    *this

  736. 03/25/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Marilyn N :
    👀 blink 👀 blink 👀 hand on hips, scratch of head – “may we approach?”

    LOL

  737. 03/25/2013 at 3:09 pm

    Marilyn N :
    But but but – what does all this have to do with the murder??!!!???

    Absolutely nothing because it’s all total crap

  738. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 3:11 pm

    Syntara:
    Party at your pad??

  739. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 3:11 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 8m
    doct said if i want my ptsd to get better = turn the trial off… i said i can medicate n hold out a few more weeks lol

    We’re all developing PTSD!!!!!!!!!!!

  740. 03/25/2013 at 3:12 pm

    Trial watcher :
    Syntara:
    Party at your pad??

    hahah absofreakinglooteltleee 😀

  741. 03/25/2013 at 3:14 pm

    seriousky… Im off for a refill of my cocktail stock…. he’s run me dry… brb

  742. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 3:15 pm

    Vickee :
    MMD~ thinking JUAN may need some of your lovin’ thoughts tonite~~~~~ Lol

    I’ll give him more than that Vickee 😉 Check out the peaceful look on his face tomorrow morning

  743. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 3:15 pm

    Vickee :
    Tracey A ~ were you out flying around last nite? Hope the ‘fog’ lifts soon. ;0)

    I was flying on something….just don’t remember what! LOL!

  744. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    appalling that they stop after all those sidebars. Judge should hang her head in shame at the pace of this trial.

    Agreed. It’s her first murder trial and she is allowing so much leeway because it is DP but she doesn’t need to allow even the wildlife in!

  745. 03/25/2013 at 3:18 pm

    The gun went off…a part of my diagnosis was omitted

  746. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 3:18 pm

    I wish Dr. Quack would just say I give up, she did it,off with her head!

  747. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 3:21 pm

    Bubble – ROFL!!! “The gun went off…” way too funny.

  748. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 3:21 pm

    Lissette Martinez@martinezliss
    Happened to jump in an elevator with #juanmartinez and det Flores They were both smiling and seemed in good spirits JM trick private exit

    Not so private any more!

  749. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 3:24 pm

    Hi Trial Watcher, Marilyn, Robert and all the others I’ve missed. Just love hanging here with all of ya!

    But, boy, do I hate having to catch up on comments. Takes forever to get through them when I’m laughing so hard.

  750. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 3:25 pm

    brb – wanna get some stuff done during the lunch break.

  751. 03/25/2013 at 3:26 pm

    Theatre of the absurd. The land of take no responsibility. And what did all those visits get Dr. Samuels? Were those Hand Jobs under the table worth it for him to suffer this punishment?

  752. PAM
    03/25/2013 at 3:27 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Even Wurmi is writing – His exercise for the day ……

    LOL…

  753. 03/25/2013 at 3:29 pm

    Please please please dont tell me Ms Perky gets another crack at him after Juan Baby?

  754. 03/25/2013 at 3:34 pm

    I think defense gets another go, then more jury questions, then another cross, then another redirect , to infinity

  755. 03/25/2013 at 3:34 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Theatre of the absurd. The land of take no responsibility. And what did all those visits get Dr. Samuels? Were those Hand Jobs under the table worth it for him to suffer this punishment?

    I think he is in love with her, it’s the only thing that makes sense. Why else would he be committing professional suicide for her?

  756. Robert from Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 3:35 pm

    Syn–that was exactly my thought! The idea of listening to gidget walking him through his answers AGAIN is enough to make one run from the screen. I won’t be able to watch.

  757. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:36 pm

    👀I think so, Syn. He might rake in another $5,000 or so……

  758. 03/25/2013 at 3:40 pm

    ooooh hang on… he has basically achieved nothing in his career, he’s ancient… @ $250 and hour he has made how much I have no idea how many hours he has had on the stand plus the trips and hours he has already billed the state for. Maybe this is his last trial before retirement so he doesn’t care that he is ruining his career. He is an unknown anyhow and this gives him a heap of notoriety.

    hmmmmmm possible.

  759. 03/25/2013 at 3:42 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    Syn–that was exactly my thought! The idea of listening to gidget walking him through his answers AGAIN is enough to make one run from the screen. I won’t be able to watch.

    I’ll have to do another QA just to keep sane.

  760. 03/25/2013 at 3:43 pm

    It’s harder with pointed questions tho… grrrrrrrr

    good gawd *slits wrists*

  761. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:44 pm

    Syn:

    Yes – In dr.sham’s own Fog, when he gets her out they will run off together with the millions
    he made from her trial!! a ha – a perry mason moment!!

  762. 03/25/2013 at 3:46 pm

    bubblebutts :
    I think defense gets another go, then more jury questions, then another cross, then another redirect , to infinity

    I just want the jury questions and Juan Baby…. it’s the defense questioning I can’t stand!! It’s condescending and inane.

  763. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 3:47 pm

    You see how feisty dr. gets when sticking up for her.
    💞true love, it is!

  764. 03/25/2013 at 3:48 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Syn:
    Yes – In dr.sham’s own Fog, when he gets her out they will run off together with the millions
    he made from her trial!! a ha – a perry mason moment!!

    yes yes yes… that’s it. The delusion, the psychosis, the fantasy of it all. By lawdy girl, I believe you have it!,

  765. Anna
    03/25/2013 at 3:49 pm

    Syntara :

    Trial watcher :
    MMd, Syntara, Tracey,Anna and others
    Would love to get together with a big bunch of us sometime after trial What do u say?
    Oh I’m in Canada 4 hours from Vancouver can we meet there?? Anyone else ???
    Vodka caprioscas YUMMY

    Seychelles! Indian ocean side… Guam south pacific side

    Seems to me the best central point would be Maui!!

  766. 03/25/2013 at 3:50 pm

    Marilyn N :
    You see how feisty dr. gets when sticking up for her.
    💞true love, it is!

    Ye she think she spun him in her web that first day, that’s why her ‘self esteem’ perked up because she was off on the game again, skipping merrily to freedom with him as her key out of there. Or so she thought.

  767. 03/25/2013 at 3:51 pm

    Ted Bundy was a helluva liar too. But to look at him, and speak with him, you’d never know he was a monster.In fact the sentencing judge told him at the conclusion “You would have made a great lawyer, I would have been proud to have you practice in front of me, but you went another way partner…”

    Jodi’s not that bright. She just uses her “wiles” to get what she wants. Classic Socio/psychopath, with extreme narcisism enveloping all. “Can I clean myself up first…” “Are you crying for Travis?” “No, I’m crying because of all I’m going to miss out on

  768. 03/25/2013 at 3:55 pm

    Bubblebutts… now you’re seeing it.

  769. Nienna
    03/25/2013 at 3:58 pm

    Missed some of today… Did JM go anywhere with the notes he was taking on the questions from the test? Think he’s gonna grade her in court for it?

  770. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 3:59 pm

    Syntara :
    Please please please dont tell me Ms Perky gets another crack at him after Juan Baby?

    Whoa! Syn! I just got out of the shower, walked over to my laptop and was about to type the EXACT SAME THING!!! Minus the Juan Baby! Set to Miss Perky and all. I see Robert In Rotterdam was thinking the same. Wow!

    I’m dreading her re-re-re-re-re-re-direct. I don’t think I can take it!

  771. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 4:00 pm

    Hee!

  772. 03/25/2013 at 4:03 pm

    ROFLMAO…. ASS-ume the position

  773. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:03 pm

    Anna :

    Syntara :

    Trial watcher :
    MMd, Syntara, Tracey,Anna and others
    Would love to get together with a big bunch of us sometime after trial What do u say?
    Oh I’m in Canada 4 hours from Vancouver can we meet there?? Anyone else ???
    Vodka caprioscas YUMMY

    Seychelles! Indian ocean side… Guam south pacific side

    Seems to me the best central point would be Maui!!

    I’m with ya there Anna. Maui!!! Haven’t been there in years.

  774. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:06 pm

    Chrissie!!! That is hilarious! Here come the tears again!

  775. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:07 pm

    Drat! I’m in moderation again. So sorry Donchais!! I’ll stop using the “quote” button again.
    😦

  776. SCK
    03/25/2013 at 4:08 pm

    Tracey A :

    Syntara :

    Tracey A :
    SCK Damn! Thank you for the that! Great intel!!!! How did I not know that??????? How did I not no that??? My mom lives in Laughlin Nv. for God’s sake. :Maybe the gun is in Lake Movaje. near Davis Dam…She did say she was in the I-40. Come on!! That takes me to Laughlin NV where my mom lives. She wasn’t headed here…she was headed for Mesa.
    Sorry Observer! I respectfully digress to your diligence. My apologies… bowing head in respect

    Not putting the pieces together here. Trace when you get back can you explain this post to me. Sorry, can’t find the dots must be blind.

    I have no idea Syn. I might’ve been answering a previous question floating around my own head. LOL! I can’t find the post I’m looking for from SCK.

    Hahaha….Here’s the point I was trying to make. Jodi had to drive through a security checkpoint to cross over Hoover Dam — guaranteed her car would not have been searched so for her to say she needed to dispose of the gun in the desert was more than likely a lie. Even if she had driven over the Dam during the day, there were observation turnouts where she very easily could have dropped the gun into the lake — a loonngg way down! The bypass bridge wasn’t open at the time of the murder — that would have made it even easier for her to dispose of it in that manner. It was just an observation on my part because they never found the gun in the desert and you have to believe they searched. Could be wrong — but I guess none of us will ever really know unless the gun is produced.

  777. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 4:11 pm

    Tracey A :
    Chrissie!!! That is hilarious! Here come the tears again!

    Hey Tracey!!! I’m in & out today (pardon the pun) I’m working on set with headphones on – lol – So I’m on the Twit for the most part but will send any gems your way 🙂

  778. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:15 pm

    Right on Chrissie! Thank you!

  779. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:17 pm

    SCK – Thanks for clearing that up. Obviously, I was still in my “fog”. And I meant “Mojave”…duh!

  780. 03/25/2013 at 4:19 pm

    I’ll get back to tha Trace ta. Im in rabbit hole mode at the moment can barely focus on the blurred screen

  781. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 4:24 pm

    “Just give me ONE example” says JM!!! The Doctor will put up with this for his ONE reason which is the fact that he’s also writing a book. I would bet that after the trial many people will
    write a book. Jodi Arias has become another nut the world wants to read about,why? well we’ll never really figure that out. Being able to identify people like Jodi in our society would really be something. Just think of all the innocent that could be saved! it’s a wonderful thought but not very realistic I know. Earlier quote about Travis: I too get a warm feeling when I think about him like he’s still here waiting for his true justice. he knows we all are fighting for him in any little way we can such as the good wishes to his family members and
    friends. He truly does sound like he meant a lot to this world. What a sad loss for so many.
    We’ve said, We would never have heard of him if he hadn’t been murdered but I think we would have .HE was going places in life, like striving for a Nobel peace prize nomination(on his blog)His joke. One thing is for sure He knew Jodi Arias was not what he wanted in his life and when he told her she planned and viciously carried out a diabolical twisted
    plot to end his life. I’m glad she didn’t commit suicide. I want to see the look on her face when she’s convicted!! And she will be convicted!! Bless u Travis and your loved ones always.
    Keep u p the good work Juan!!!! We love u too!! You’re the man !!LOL LOL

  782. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 4:27 pm

    SCK – not sure if this would be the case, but doesn’t that desert area get big wind/sand storms so in al likelihood the gun would be covered up?

  783. 03/25/2013 at 4:28 pm

    Trial watcher, she never meant to suicide. That is a notorious ploy by people with cluster B disorders to elicit sympathy and ‘another’ chance from what they view as the gullible ie us.

  784. 03/25/2013 at 4:32 pm

    Re gun – I reckon it is in the desert because she had to stop to wash her hands because of the knife wounds on her fingers. She couldnt go through the checkpoint with bloody hands or they may well have started checking the car.

    Likely wherever she washed her hands with the *brand name* water… is where the gun and knife were disposed of too. I can’t see her stopping twice to dispose of evidence and clean herself with the water.

  785. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:34 pm

    It’s cool Syn! Cheers!

  786. 03/25/2013 at 4:35 pm

    siiiiiiiogh when is the trial back Im getttiiinnnggg BORED

  787. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:35 pm

    Trial Watcher – I don’t believe for one second that she ever considered suicide. What, and miss all this attention??? She’s loving every minute of this.

  788. 03/25/2013 at 4:37 pm

    Narcissists don’t commit suicide they love themselves too much. me no laiks em

  789. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:37 pm

    How exciting! Another sidebar! WTF!!!

  790. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 4:38 pm

    Many department stores have Pop-Rocks on their shelves for the upcoming Easter holiday.
    Should we try and get these removed from the world? Every time I see these little colored packets I feel ill. Why did Jodi even have to ruin my childhood memories of pop-rocks?
    LOL LOL Skank!!

  791. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 4:40 pm

    She was no more gonna commit suicide than my driveway. Her first pretend attempt caused a teeny tiny sting. Talk is cheap folks especially when it comes to manipulating people! We should only be so lucky. Save the state the hell of a lot of money on endless appeals.

  792. 03/25/2013 at 4:42 pm

    Jodi took a good person from us. As most of this type do. They feed off the good kind empathetic people because they can’t find that in themselves – it’s not there. Then when the kind person has had enough (usually after they have been drained to a shell of their former selves.. the parasite leaves to feed off another. Many lives can be ruined by just one, because as you see from JA, they also readily move on if something better comes along. They do not form real attachment or loyalty like the rest of us. Therefore a normal healthy relationship as we know one gives them no satisfaction.

    Hedonism and instant gratification are hallmarks of this type.

  793. 03/25/2013 at 4:43 pm

    Trial watcher :
    Many department stores have Pop-Rocks on their shelves for the upcoming Easter holiday.
    Should we try and get these removed from the world? Every time I see these little colored packets I feel ill. Why did Jodi even have to ruin my childhood memories of pop-rocks?
    LOL LOL Skank!!

    I missed that testimony

  794. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:43 pm

    Oh Gawd! Will this EVER end???? I feel so bad for this jury. Whomever said “Is the jury writing questions or suicide notes” Good one!

  795. 03/25/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Efforts to avoid talking about the trauma…. good one doc omfg

  796. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:46 pm

    Trial Watcher – True dat on the Pop Rocks.

    Syn – You didn’t miss much. Other than she likes Pop Rocks and Tootsie Pops in her WooHa!

    I need another shower now! Yuck!

  797. 03/25/2013 at 4:46 pm

    He original story was she wasnt there you MORON the ninja was the second HHEEELLLOOOOOOO

  798. Jo
    03/25/2013 at 4:46 pm

    Did anyone else read JA lips when JM was questioning the doc about something she said and she mouthed “I never said that”. If I could read it, so could the jury. And yesterday I watched this Steven Segall movie where he does this slappy-hand martial art thing with his hands. Slap, slap, slap, slap. Well, I would LOVE to do that to JA whenever I see her face. Preferably with sound effects. My husband is getting worried about me.

  799. 03/25/2013 at 4:47 pm

    yay back to ripping Dr dickwit to bits

  800. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 4:48 pm

    Ya notice that Dr.Quack is no longer talked or even looking at the jury!!!

  801. 03/25/2013 at 4:49 pm

    Irises… hello he wanted to call his daughter Iris… she sent the grandmother 20 irises as a symbol of the grandchildren she would never get.

    Heeeloooooooooo sadistic narcissist malignant narccissist you complete labotomised twit

  802. 03/25/2013 at 4:49 pm

    MMD :
    Ya notice that Dr.Quack is no longer talked or even looking at the jury!!!

    ooo good point.

  803. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:50 pm

    Good call MMD! I’ll bet he starts looking at them again when Perky is up and he’s relaxed again.

  804. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 4:50 pm

    Jo :
    <Well, I would LOVE to do that to JA whenever I see her face. Preferably with sound effects. My husband is getting worried about me.

    Welcome to the dark side Jo. Eventually every one of us has come to this side ! ;-0

  805. 03/25/2013 at 4:51 pm

    Did her own family not say, Hey, you need to look at her for this crime? Who did that?

  806. 03/25/2013 at 4:52 pm

    * correction great grand children oops

  807. 03/25/2013 at 4:52 pm

    ooooooooooooooooo JM got him big time!!!!! JM KNOWS he’s in love with her

  808. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:53 pm

    Whoa!!! “You have feelings for the Defendant” “I beg your PARDON!” Good job Juan!!!

  809. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 4:53 pm

    What did GIdget just say??????? I demand……………….???????????

  810. 03/25/2013 at 4:55 pm

    Dunno but I’ll translate…. I demand JM stop because he his bamboozeling my witness with his veracity again.

  811. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 4:55 pm

    Another Sidebar!!! STFU WillNOT!!!!

  812. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 4:56 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Willmott takes about 20 steps for every 5 taken by Nurmi as they approach the bench. Arias Trial Facts #438

    Guess they have to stay awake somehow during sidebars!!! LOL

  813. 03/25/2013 at 4:56 pm

    Does he know ANYTHING I ask for the 4567 time!

  814. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 4:57 pm

    Syntara :
    Dunno but I’ll translate…. I demand JM stop because he his bamboozeling my witness with his veracity again.

    Thank you Syn – kinda figured that was the gist of it 🙂

  815. 03/25/2013 at 4:58 pm

    Wurmi is so not there for me I forgot he was!

  816. 03/25/2013 at 4:58 pm

    If she has no memory of killing Travis how does she know she did it? How does she know Batman didn’t come in to save her? How does she know Travis didn’t do it himself to frame her? How does she know it wasn’t her mother that did it? Or the little boy from the neighborhood that used to wear Spider Man underoos? How does she know it wasn’t the wacko that claimed to kill Jon Benet Ramsey.

  817. 03/25/2013 at 4:59 pm

    Someone shoot Dr Dodgy pulease!!!!!!!!!! At least with a tranquilliser dart!

  818. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 5:01 pm

    Hey Syntara: i should have worded that a little different. I know that JA never really intended the suicide agree with u that was a ploy along with the fact that people like her LOVE the attention and yes Tracey this dummy thinks she’s on her own reality show. She’s so dam simple she maybe thinks they’ll let her play herself in the made for tv movie! God please forbid these movies ever being made but rumor has it that the talks have begun. Would JA or family make money off of this? They must have to sign a release of info? If she gets the DP maybe they’ll wait to make a movie so we get to c the actress on the table. My wish is that after the trial everyone would absolutely and forever FORGET about JODI ARIAS! Why is it that the criminal is always remembered, written about and so on?
    Victim? What Victim?. Oh yes that victim!! WTF! Travis Alexander should be immortalized in print. That would be a book worth buying and reading! An inspirational book. Travis survived much adversity in his young life and he was a man who wanted to make a difference.
    Such a sad loss to all.
    i don’t have to wonder what Jodi Arias would have done in her life. MURDER!!!
    Death or Jail!!

  819. 03/25/2013 at 5:01 pm

    Bubblebutts…. fog.. dinosaurs… meteors… Transient global amnesia.

  820. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:02 pm

    Bubble – ROFL!!!!

  821. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 5:03 pm

    Sidebar sidebar! Objection to pen tossing!!!

  822. 03/25/2013 at 5:03 pm

    Trial Watcher
    She’s so dam simple
    so so so true!!!

  823. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 5:03 pm

    He’s got an answer to everything. It all boils down to the criminal always returns to the scene of the crime. Has squat to do with PTSD!

  824. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:05 pm

    Trial Watcher – Laughing at your post. But your last statements are so true. It’s always the criminals that are remembered.

  825. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 5:05 pm

    I fear this guy aint going away any time soon.
    Miss 👀 is writing hundreds and hundres of pages.

  826. 03/25/2013 at 5:05 pm

    Its all to do with her pathological lying.

  827. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:07 pm

    WTF is WillNOT smirking about!!! I wanna smack that look right off her face!!!!

  828. 03/25/2013 at 5:07 pm

    TW here is would not be allowed in the US…. oh I would hope no money for movies went to them. Oh do I hope not

  829. 03/25/2013 at 5:09 pm

    She has no emotions. No conscience. Be interesting to hook her up to a polygraph and see if she could pass. Even though they are not admissable, I do find them a useful tool in investigations.

  830. 03/25/2013 at 5:10 pm

    Seriously wht he is saying now is WRONG CATEGORICALLY WRONG re the sending of the flowers

    she said she was staging a scene? omg she told a truth???? wow!!!!! that’s a first

  831. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:10 pm

    I love Juan, but I fear he’s going too far with this guy! I understand his point but he’s already thrashed this idiot’s credibility. WillNOT will be up there for days now!

  832. 03/25/2013 at 5:12 pm

    bubblebutts :
    She has no emotions. No conscience. Be interesting to hook her up to a polygraph and see if she could pass. Even though they are not admissable, I do find them a useful tool in investigations.

    without affect or conscience I think she would pass. I’ve scene experiemnts on pathological liars and a large % pass with flying colours when they are given the answers to say.. ie they are given lies to reply with.

  833. 03/25/2013 at 5:14 pm

    They have honestly sent Dr Whacko somewhere over the break. His obfuscation has improved. Its not natural to him like it is to her, but his has improved since the first couple days he faced Juan

  834. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 5:15 pm

    I think that back view of Dr. Quack”s bald head is truly is best side! What say ye??????? LOL

  835. 03/25/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Tracey A :
    I love Juan, but I fear he’s going too far with this guy! I understand his point but he’s already thrashed this idiot’s credibility. WillNOT will be up there for days now!

    Oh lord she will be…. starting him from scratch again Nooooooooooooooooo Noooooooooooooo Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  836. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Gidget and her sidebars are getting f**king ridiculous!!!!!!!! 😦

  837. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Miss Perky is making sure Wurmi gets his exercise today. I swear I can’t take much more of this guy!

  838. Robert in Rotterdam
    03/25/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Syntara :
    Dunno but I’ll translate…. I demand JM stop because he his bamboozeling my witness with his veracity again

    LOL

  839. 03/25/2013 at 5:18 pm

    I say every time that thing comes on the screen I look down and type I cannot stand looking at JA anymore.. it’s not just a choice its a primal urge.

  840. 03/25/2013 at 5:18 pm

    Samuels crossed the line from anayst to advocate.

  841. 03/25/2013 at 5:20 pm

    Dildo with a heartbeat now that is so telling isn’t it?

  842. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:22 pm

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  843. Jo
    03/25/2013 at 5:23 pm

    MMD….I have been on the dark side since the jury verdict came back in the CA case. Woe is me.

  844. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 5:23 pm

    Is he gonna read the whole diary???????????????????????????????????

  845. 03/25/2013 at 5:24 pm

    I hate it when they whisper it annoys the hell out of me the way JA does it with that hair. ooooooooooooooo

  846. Pamela
    03/25/2013 at 5:25 pm

    Juan Martinez is so annoying. I wish someone like Detective Flores could have been the prosecutor. His approach is so different and thorough. He knew just how to read and roadblock Jodi without losing his cool. Martinez gets emotionally wound up and sidetracked. Makes me nervous that he’s going to overlook something crucial because he’s so intent on flaunting his ego. He should get to the heart of a matter and move on (he should also not be trying the case alone…It’s good to have someone to bounce ideas off of and catch things he might have overlooked). Most times he goes on and on about things ad nauseum. I DID like the way he slammed Samuels by telling him he had feelings for Jodi. Didn’t see that one comin, lol. Loved it.

    • donchais
      03/25/2013 at 6:48 pm

      UH, no!

  847. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:25 pm

    Now Wurmi and WilNot are both having a good chuckle. Laugh it up you A**holes!

  848. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 5:25 pm

    Jo :
    MMD….I have been on the dark side since the jury verdict came back in the CA case. Woe is me.

    I was still kinda gray – I hated the verdict but would have settled for life if convicted. For JA I was DP!!!!!!!

  849. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 5:26 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Samuels crossed the line from anayst to advocate.

    Yup! a long time ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  850. 03/25/2013 at 5:27 pm

    does she even know what she did??? does she even have a clue? her ability to compartmentalise is beyond staggering I swear.

  851. Marilyn N
    03/25/2013 at 5:29 pm

    NOOOOOOOooooooo – no more approaching!!

    BTW – I read that the defense team goes out the back door with a big, burly guard,
    and JM walks right out the front door.

  852. MMD
    03/25/2013 at 5:29 pm

    Michael Kiefer@michaelbkiefer
    Whichis also the “3-hole wonder” message. I was about to tweet that we got this far today without any mention of anal sex. #jinxedmyself

    Michael Kiefer@michaelbkiefer
    Martinez brings up the “dildo with a heartbeat” message.

    True no anal today – kinda nice 🙂

  853. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:30 pm

    NNNNNoooooooooooooo!!! I can’t stand it anymore!

  854. 03/25/2013 at 5:30 pm

    MMD :
    Is he gonna read the whole diary???????????????????????????????????

    LOL!!

  855. Chrissie A
    03/25/2013 at 5:32 pm

    Here she goes again, trying to suppress laughter:

  856. 03/25/2013 at 5:33 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Samuels crossed the line from anayst to advocate

    from analyst to anal-yst

  857. 03/25/2013 at 5:35 pm

    Chrissie…. Here she goes again, trying to suppress laughter:

    see see see see re:

    Syntara :
    does she even know what she did??? does she even have a clue? her ability to compartmentalise is beyond staggering I swear.

  858. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:35 pm

    HLN Beth Karas reporting jurors are putting more questions in the basket. At this rate, this guy will be on the stand longer than JA!!!! 😦

  859. 03/25/2013 at 5:37 pm

    Sir, and if Miss Arias was caught trying to sneak pills in the courtroom, and smuggling out her artwork right under the court’s nose would that be considered PTSD?

    Yes, if the bsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbs

  860. 03/25/2013 at 5:37 pm

    you shouldnt have to be trained for empathy …. you cant be or you could train a freaking psychopath to feel emparhy and at the moment nobody on this planet as found a way to do thast

    another dissertation?????? OMFG down the rsbbit hole again!!!! sheesh

  861. Tracey A
    03/25/2013 at 5:38 pm

    I can’t believe the doc is actually saying “I’m trained to be objective” with a straight face.

  862. Trial watcher
    03/25/2013 at 5:41 pm

    AN 18 PAGE LETTER to the ALEXANDER FAMILY!!! The Ninja Story!!!.
    No shame,remorse, nothing to say she takes any responsibility for Travis’s death,what was it she said to Flores” I was a scared little chicken shit bitch who ran out on my friend”. Still with the Ninja story! How I admire the Alexander’s, what they’ve had to endure from the Arias family.
    I don’t think I’d be able to sit in the same room with those people. They’ve gone out of their way to show such a lack of respect for them. The “family friend” who complained about the ribbon in support of Travis, maybe she should be removed just for being their friend! LOL LOL If only……..
    u know I’m not a mean person but oh if I could have 5 minutes with Jodi, Aunty, Momsy and even granny and grandpa.Not too mention Wormi and Wily. Did not one of these family members know what Jodi was all about? does anyone else think that Grandpa has more bullets for the missing .25, that would be a big help or does he have it(gun/bullets) in a safe place until this is all over. Why isn’t it likely that someone helped her with something at some point in the story? The Family are usually the people that’ll step up and help out. Even when it’s murder,it wouldn’t be the first time.
    We’ve all known of situations where this is exactly what happened, family members will lie for each other and JA is on trial for her LIFE!
    I have 2 daughters and I can’t even begin to imagine something like this and I would guess
    any mother would say the same as I.
    TY getting it all out love u folks,you’re great listeners!!!

  863. Tracey A