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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty-Nine, Discussion Continues, 3

04/01/2013

Carry on!

Thx

donchais

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  1. PAM
    04/01/2013 at 12:03 pm

    When does court reume? Thanks.

    • donchais
      04/01/2013 at 12:41 pm

      Tuesday

      • Lisa M
        04/01/2013 at 12:55 pm

        And yet another in a long line of 3-day weeks!

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

      Could someone send me information on the law where Juan Martinez just had a photo taken with someone out side of the court house, but he never talked about the case with anyone. What happens if a member from the Jury saw this photo being taken. Could it cause a mistrial and perhaps replacing Juan. I hope none of this takes place, especially where the trial is so close to the end. I feel not so good about my self for asking but I do not not the laws.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 2:21 pm

        Tami, I don’t there is any law for JM taking pics outside the courthouse but the defense was trying to say it was misconduct and shouldn’t happen in case a juror saw it which none did. Jean C from HLN was put on the stand because the defense misunderstood a comment she made while broadcasting. He thought she had said a juror did see this taking place but in fact she said it could cause a problem if a juror did see this. Basically the defense was whining because no body likes them. Just another thing for Nurmi to gripe about and hold court up.

        On Tuesday Nurmi is supposed to show a video showing JM having pictures taken with fans and walking to and from the courthouse with Det. Flores, but never speaking to the press or discussing the trial with anyone. There isn’t any law that says you can’t be filmed while walking to a courthouse and taking a photo or two before going inside. No misconduct at all!

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/01/2013 at 9:29 pm

        It pains me to respond to you–whoever your are– because I have read your posts and have felt my professional “hackles” raise on end…
        but for the sake of those here whom I have interacted with and respect, I will address this topic, purely from a LEGAL standpoint.

        There actually do exist RULES of PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT which COULD come into play here.

        Every state has their own specific Rules, but they are typically similar to just about every other state’s Rules of Professional Conduct for attorneys.

        The Rule of Professional Conduct in AZ which COULD come into play here (probably not at this level, but.. if there is an appeal… ??? I have not done legal research for AZ on the appellate level)..
        but in any event, here is the rule (vague and therefore sort of all-encompassing):

        Check out SUBSECTION (e) below.
        This is what concerns me, as a practicing attorney since 1992.

        NOTE: I do not believe the trial court, i.e. the Judge on the bench, will find that JM engaged in professional misconduct here. Not at all.
        Nor do I believe that this is a decent argument on appeal for this defendant. Hardly.
        HOWEVER.
        Why even engage in ANY conduct that possibly might open the door to that kind of ruling at trial or ruling on appeal??????

        I know you all worship this guy–and I get it (from the standpoint of wanting a warrior for Travis and the family), …
        HOWEVER..
        There is no reason for a prosecutor to be posing for photos and/or signing autographs DURING TRIAL.
        It is an act that could jeapordize the verdict (but only if that verdict is GUILTY).
        So.. if the VERDICT of GUILT for this defendant is what you care about MOST.. then… just wait until AFTER the verdict to pose/sign.
        It’s just that simple, Folks.

        HE is the one who should know better, and I am not blaming those who seek to meet him/pose with him/get his autograph.

        Just… please, everyone, WAIT until after the VERDICT to do anything that could have an unintended consequence.

        I would hate to have to see Travis’ family members go through this again for ANY reason, but least of all because of something that could cast shades of dishonor on the prosecutor.

        ER 8.4. Misconduct

        It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:

        (a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;

        (b) commit a criminal act that reflects adversely on the lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects;

        (c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;

        (d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;

        (e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official or to achieve results by means that violate the Rules of Professional Conduct or other law; or

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/01/2013 at 9:55 pm

        Actually meant to say it is subsection (d) that is in play, NOT subsection (e).

        “(d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice”

        That is the one that might come into play IF (and the IF is a FACT ISSUE) a JUROR happened to witness it.

        Of course, it does not appear that ANY juror did, in fact, witness it.

        But thanks to Jean Casaras (sp?) from HLN, this issue was HIGHLIGHTED, and whatever you think of the defense attorneys, it was actually their PROFESSIONAL OBLIGATION to RAISE the issue (because, otherwise, it would have been “waived” on appeal), and hence.. we have an issue that really should not be part of this trial.

        Don’t blame the defense attorney for doing his job. Seriously– ANY attorney who was in his position, and who was worth their law degree, would have done so.
        It’s like a doctor –caring for a murder suspect in an E.R. setting– doing his/her best to administer appropriate medical care.

        Try to stop being so angry at the attorneys for a change.
        Try being angry at the person who you believe commited the CRIME.

        Try to stop deifying the attorney who represents the side you agree with.
        NONE of us should desire or seek such worship.

        This is not a game.. or a dating show or a place to fawn over one of the “players”.
        This is a TRAGEDY of EPIC PROPORTIONS.

        TRAVIS is DEAD.

        TRAVIS is NEVER GOING TO BREATHE AGAIN.

        THAT is what matters.
        JUSTICE is what matters.

        NOT having a schoolgirl “crush” on the prosecutor.
        NOT hating on the lawyers who were appointed (as in DIRECTED, by the JUDGE) to represent her (with the same “zeal” they are REQUIRED, by the RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, the represent ANY INDIVIDUAL).

        Stop with the hate (I mean… for a site dedicated -allegedly– to JUSTICE… I was truly sad to see people making fun of/light of “DEATH THREATS” to her lawyers.

        Death threats are ILLEGAL, folks.
        You cannot pretend to be for “law and order” and then applaud “death threats”, no matter against whom such threats are aimed.

        Either you are FOR the RULE OF LAW for EVERYONE… or you are no better than someone who thinks they have the right to skirt those rules.

        JODI ANN ARIAS is someone who believed–and as far as I can see, STILL BELIEVES– that SHE had the right/has the right- to skirt OUR LAWS.

        Let’s ALL OF US not ever stoop to her level.

        Let’s be for TRUTH and JUSTICE ONLY and ALWAYS.

        OK.
        Said what I needed to say.
        I’m guesssing I’ll get some grief for it, but that’s OK.
        Bring it on.

        I am all about hearing you out and either responding accordingly or just keeping my thoughts to myself.

        I truly think my concerns are valid for justice and truth, and I only hope that rings true.

        No harm intended to anyone.
        We all get carried away with emotion on blogs.
        Just saying we have to carry ourselves with more restraint where it truly matters.

        This is real.

      • Walsh121411@gmail.com
        04/02/2013 at 10:57 am

        Their are not laws on the books in Arizona about this BUT…….If a juror saw this it could influence them and their decision and they are no longer impartial.

  2. 04/01/2013 at 12:10 pm

    Schaeffer:

    Syntara — I looked at the stills from “Psycho” and they are pretty compelling as far as mirroring Travis’s poses in the shower. The only problem I have is I just don’t think Jodi is that deep. She’s devious, but she isn’t artful.

    I know both yourself and Robert are both reluctant on this issue and don’t get me wrong I am totally aware of the leap that is required on this.

    I believe the psycho shots are too similar to dismiss and even before Chrissie brought them to my attention I felt so strongly they were not random poses. They resemble to closely the areas she targeted with most of the major wounds.

    While she is very simple thinking, that is profoundly obvious (pardon the seeming paradox), she think very deeply about her game, about what entertains her. It’s deep thinking on very shallow subjects.

    She is heavy into symbolism and dabbling in the arts. Her sketches, drawings, photography and many references to dramas and movies reflect this.

    I believe the CK thing was a cover-up only for Flores’ benefit. I believe the shower shots were deliberate poses. Look at yet another example of how her mind works (as if this list isn’t big enough)….. beyond Othello, Sopranos, Ninjas, Psycho and Steve Carell (40 yr old virgin)…. let’s discuss the irises to his grandmother.

    OK why irises? Because Iris was one of the top names on a shortlist Travis had in mind for a daughter!!

    WOBO says this herself… why send 20 irises? To symbolise the great grandchildren she will never have. Only relevant to Jodi but she does this stuff because it amuses her to do it. Remember, unlike us, to her the game is EVERYTHING. It’s how she amuses herself.

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/01/2013 at 3:14 pm

      Thank you..

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/02/2013 at 6:17 pm

      I really appreciate reading what an Attorney had to write, it does open my eyes and helps me to understand the defense team, even though I have own thoughts but there has not been a verdict yet. I need to just listen to the complete trial until the end to get a full story.

      I understand Lawyers do have the same as a Doctor, they are the ones to determine Jody Aries Mental and emotion state.

      I would think just listen to the Professionals and ask questions I know I am.

  3. Anna
    04/01/2013 at 12:11 pm

    From the facebook page posted 10 hours ago (https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/452186838190797):

    Travis’s brother, Steven Alexander, just wrote this :

    “Right now, a helicopter pilot is flying a mission in honor of my brother in Afghanistan. He is flying a flag on his black hawk for Travis. His name is Andrew Scott Rich. Pray for his safety.”

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 12:37 pm

      Thanks so much Anna for posting this. Andrew Scott Rich will have a lot of extra prayers for his safety, I’m sure!

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

        That mojito with the reduced simple syrup & homegrown mint muddled with love sounds beyond delish! I have so much mint growing that I’ve come to consider it a weed and pull it like crazy. Never thought about mojito’s but I will use it now! Thanks 🙂

      • Anna
        04/01/2013 at 2:55 pm

        Hey NancyB! Yes, mint is a weed like thing. So glad we put ours in a pot to grow because I didn’t know that until a friend told me later. I do hate invasive plants. But at least you have now found something to do with all that damn mint, right?! Cheers 🙂

  4. Schaeffer
    04/01/2013 at 12:22 pm

    That business about 20 irises has always bothered me. I understand the symbolism of the irises, but 20 is such an odd number; it isn’t two dozen, it isn’t a dozen and a half, so how did she arrive at that number? They weren’t together 20 months, she hasn’t explained some crackpot “theory of 20” as part of her creed, so what is the significance? I have been working on a theory, but have been reluctant to express it because I will be the first to admit it is pretty far fetched.

    I have a rather extensive medical background, including cardiovascular and thoracic surgery, so I am able to understand the autopsy report pretty well. The problem I’m having is trying to get all the information in one place. However, here is what I am thinking.

    If one discounts the defensive wounds to his hands and arms, and the slash to his throat, he was stabbed 19 times. I wonder if she thought she stabbed him 20 times OR if she thought she stabbed him 19 times and shot him once, for a total of 20 wounds.

    Given the fact she stabbed him in a frenzy, I seriously doubt she was counting as she went. I am positive she was screaming at him while stabbing him, and obviously he was screaming, too. However, who knows what went on in that shower? I am positive she showered with him, which is too repulsive to even consider, but there was some speculation she “bathed him.”

    Again, I may be way off base here, but that 20 number is provocative. Anybody have any other ideas?

    • 04/01/2013 at 12:29 pm

      maybe as simple as that was all the florist had? If I come across anything that points to why 20… I’ll definitely post it

      • 04/01/2013 at 12:36 pm

        If one discounts the defensive wounds to his hands and arms, and the slash to his throat, he was stabbed 19 times. I wonder if she thought she stabbed him 20 times OR if she thought she stabbed him 19 times and shot him once, for a total of 20 wounds.

        Schaeffer – think she was in a real frenzy and panic that he wasn’t dying.. (see interview vids that back this up when she says he was still moving.. he couldn’t talk then but I could tell he was conscious (ninja story).

        I doubt she was counting wounds she was just amazed he was still alive no matter what she seemed to do to him.

        Could be wrong but I don’t think she was counting stab wounds. If he had died in the shower as she had planned then number of wounds could well be symbolism but I think after the initial wound to the heart her plan went to bits and she was in “oh shite” mode.

      • Schaeffer
        04/01/2013 at 12:43 pm

        As I said, it is pretty far fetched, and I did consider the florist only having 20 irises, or maybe that was all she could afford. Someone commented they are the cheapest flowers for a funeral.

      • truejustice
        04/01/2013 at 1:08 pm

        Could be something significant , but most likely ordered a pre-designed bouquet. Most pre-designed bouquets do not come in dozens — usually 20 – 10 – 14 etc. Just saw an iris bouquet at proflowers – 20 cnt.

      • 04/01/2013 at 1:17 pm

        ahhh that makes sense. Thank you truejustice.

    • Anna
      04/01/2013 at 12:32 pm

      Hi Schaeffer. I think she did wash him off once she got him back in the shower. Some have said to wash away her dna but I don’t know. There was a cup or a glass by his body. I just think she never planned on Travis ever getting out of the shower. Much easier clean up for the demon seed. It got out of control because Travis was fighting hard to stay alive.
      And re the #20, I have no ideas but knowing how crazy she is that way it probably means something to her.

    • Moon
      04/01/2013 at 12:43 pm

      maybe that’s how many months he was in her life?

    • Ginger
      04/01/2013 at 10:59 pm

      Call me crazy but they broke up on the 29th and there was 29 stab wounds strange don’t you think.

  5. 04/01/2013 at 12:27 pm

    hahah Lindalou – you were thinking along same lines as I was…. just saw this in your post near end comments yesterday

    She stated she sent the 20 irises to Travis’ grandmother because Travis liked the name Iris for a little girl. He supposedly also liked Reagan and Hinckley for children’s names.

    • Lisa M
      04/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

      Did she really say that?! That she sent irises because Travis liked the name Iris for a little girl? That can’t be true! I mean I know shes depraved but that brings depravity to a whole other level.

      • 04/01/2013 at 1:16 pm

        yes she did.

      • truejustice
        04/01/2013 at 1:18 pm

        Why did she even feel the need to explain the why? The fact she sent any flowers at all was creepy enough. She often explains things when there is no explanation needed – classic sign of a liar – so the truth is probably even more creepy .. Yikes.

  6. NancyB
    04/01/2013 at 12:29 pm

    Gateway – I brought your comment over from the previous thread.

    “I vaguely remember in one of the first interrogation tapes, before #5, she told Det. Flores
    she had some things in a safe at her home. I believe it was when she was talking about the wedding photos and the photos of her sisters prom . Did anyone else catch that? I could be wrong but I wonder if that is where Travis journals are and the secret suprise
    letters that are supposed to come out at a later date, to try & save her ass. You would think that would have been searched or confisgated. I have always wondered about that safe or Matt M.”

    All 3 of of her journals were in the safe & Det Flores confirmed that they had those. Then she told him that she had $146.00 in the safe and asked him if they took that too. He told her that they did not. Travis’ journals have never been recovered as far as I know.

  7. NancyB
    04/01/2013 at 12:34 pm

    Hi Linda Lou! Glad you are back with us! I’m sure that Syn & Robert will respond back to you when they get here but I just wanted to say thanks for reminding me about the Taxi references that definitely have a connection in her foul brain.

  8. Schaeffer
    04/01/2013 at 12:41 pm

    LindaLou — I’m sure you are exactly right about Travis getting the name Hinckley from the LDS Elder Gordon Hinckley, not John the assassin. The WOBO got it wrong, and she just made the Reagan association in her stupidity. No one in their right mind would name their children HInckley and Reagan.

    Gateway — I am pretty sure she said her broken camera was in the fireproof safe, along with her journals. Because of the time lapse between the murder and her arrest, she had plenty of time to destroy evidence. Travis’s journals were stolen at some time prior to the murder, and I am sure they are long gone. As for the letters she thought were going to save her ass, it was the letters about Travis and pedophilia. However, those have been ruled inadmissible. Yesterday someone posted that Matt McCartney, her accomplice in the forged letters, will not be testifying as a rebuttal witness, but I’m not sure why.

  9. NancyB
    04/01/2013 at 12:53 pm

    Schaeffer – I posted that – This info is all from Chris Stark, who I consider a very reliable source!! How was your dinner with 36?

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 8h
    CONFIRMED: Matt McCartney will NOT be appearing as a rebuttal witness. #JodiArias

    From Chris Stark – why Matt won’t be appearing
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjgheu

    Matt’s statements at the bottom of the page come directly from the court minutes prior to trial which have links below his statement. Very Interesting! Thanks to Chris Stark!!
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjf2p9

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/01/2013 at 10:09 pm

      This is why the anger and resentment should be directed at THE DEFENDANT (and not at the lawyers who were court-appointed to represent her to the best of their abilities).
      SHE is the one who has “masterminded” (feeble-minded, IMO) this defense to the charges.

      We have just had another state prosecutor–and HIS WIFE– MURDERED in their own home by people who were just as angry and vigilant as the people who likely sent death threats to the lawyers who were appointed to represent the defendant in this case.

      NONE of the violence is OK.
      NONE of it is LEGAL.

      If we are for JUSTICE, then let’s be for JUSTICE.

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 12:31 am

        Hi Where Is SHE – I initially believed those first reports that there had been death threats against the defense, which of course are abhorrent. Two days later I heard a follow-up report on CNN that quoted someone from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, who confirmed that there have NOT been any death threats and that it was rumor without any basis. As for your appellate concerns related to Juan’s fans approaching him for pics etc, yes, now that this issue has been raised I just hope all fans will make no further attempts to speak to or make requests of him while the trial is still in progress. As far as your vigorous support of this defense team as just doing their job, well, we can agree to disagree on that issue. I certainly have enjoyed reading many of your previous comments that have been shed light on topics from a legal standpoint.

  10. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 12:59 pm

    Schaeffer – You comment yesterday #604 I thought you were referring to when she was left alone in the room the first day, and she turns sideways in the chair, reaches around and it sounds like she unplugs something from a wall socket. She then doodles on the paper for a while, before plugging whatever it is back in. I can hear it clearly but I can’t see it. Do you know what she was messing with? (If you don’t know what I’m referring to, let me know and I’ll try to find it. I watched the tapes on Huffington Post, so my reference numbers aren’t the same as those YouTube videos.

    Yes I saw that too and was wondering what it was. She was doing something with it to the paper then put it back. Don’t have a clue what it was but I don’t know about you but I wished I had been a spider in that room to listen and watch because remember she said ” I don’t even kill spiders” so at least I would have been safe! 🙂 Yeah right.

  11. 04/01/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Lindalou

    “psychological” thriller. I read somewhere the main character’s name was Travis. JODIE Foster also played in it and her character’s name was ‘Iris’. John ‘Hinckley’ was the man who shot President ‘Reagan’ and also had an earlier OBSESSION with actress Jodie Foster. This is a little to weird for me — Travis, Jodie, Iris, Hinckley, Reagan

    OK…. wow!! seriously wth??

    My first thought the moment the Hinckley and Reagan dropped from her lips was…. get outta her who would make that leap from iris to those names.

    Right. Now I really am beginning to believe she scripts pretty much everything on move and dramatic references.

    That’s done it.

    (stealing this post by the way it’s going in my files for building my arias analysis. Hope that’s ok?)

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 1:25 pm

      Syn,
      I believe you are right about her scripting things from movies and plays. I think because she disassociated herself from her familyfor so long she just created “JODI’S WORLD” and started scripting from the time she left home. That comparison above with what all she said in the 48 hours is uncanny! Wow!

      • 04/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

        Alternate reality is right… it’s just not the way the bleeding heart therapists Dodgy and Alice quite see it.

        It’s not benign it’s malignant.

  12. 04/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

    Hey Anna, how about I make an apple pie?

    • 04/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

      apple pie sounds goooood

      • 04/01/2013 at 1:34 pm

        Would u like yours al a mode Syn?

      • 04/01/2013 at 1:41 pm

        exactly what I had in mind 🙂

  13. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

    What grabbed my attention on this off day, was the police #6&7 with the Female detective.
    Syntara mentioned yesterday a disconnect with her and the Male and Female. I’ll say!
    We rarely hear of any contact with women of ja as friends. She was defined by, and played up to, men.We saw her “flirt” with Det Flores but with the woman she’s already auditioning the detective for the social worker Ms Lavatory role.
    Det comes in and tells her” you’re a businesswomen” I can see you are intelligent; you have “two businesses.”
    ja doesn’t say,” hey Miss Detective, I had to scrounge to get cash for my trip. I’m 27 and I dont ae a dime and I live with parents and work tables. I’m not a photgrapher or a businesswoman”; instead she nods, “yes”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
    Shes saying to herself,”If this woman thinks Im a busineswoman who “juggles” various things… well then..and she pipes up! Oh yeah “well Im organized and not THAT organized. I let papers pile up and things like tha”t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    She turns on a dime.She;s hooking onto the businesswoman who juggles rather than the waitress who goes for the jugular.

    • 04/01/2013 at 1:15 pm

      Robert…. but wait there’s more…. 😉 and there’s more.

      “The I don’t think you’re a cold blooded killer, I honestly don’t ”

      Jodi thinks..ooo goodie I’ve got her right where I want her here she doesn’t have a clue what I am… … she immediately starts talking about something inane like… I need to get those wedding photos to whoever it is.

      Translation…. .. “no I’m not a cold blooded killer .. I’m a caring person worried about other people see?”

      yah whaaateverrrrrr

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 2:46 pm

      Not rarely hear of any women friends more like NEVER hear of any female friends. That’s because she does not have any!! The only “friends” she has are her past lovers. Very strange.

      • Ginger
        04/01/2013 at 11:02 pm

        I Agree with you it’s like women could spot her crazy right away .

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 2:47 pm

      I forget to mention Robert that I like your last line of “She turns on a dime.She;s hooking onto the businesswoman who juggles rather than the waitress who goes for the jugular.” Well stated!

  14. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 1:11 pm

    Schaeffer :
    As I said, it is pretty far fetched, and I did consider the florist only having 20 irises, or maybe that was all she could afford. Someone commented they are the cheapest flowers for a funeral.

    Hi guys! No they actually are pretty expensive but not as much as a rose. I owned a florist shop for three and actually the cheapest flower to purchase is a carnation. That is why people who ordered funeral flowers always asked us NOT to use them or use as little as possible. Carnations get a bad rap like black cats. 😦

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 2:51 pm

      How interesting that you owned a florist shop Kimmy! That impresses me because I adore all flowers. I love carnations. How interesting that they have a lowly status! I grow scented carnations that grow like weeds here in So Cal!

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 3:00 pm

        Yeah I had it for 3 years in the mid 90’s and never worked so hard in life. Valentine’s Day became like the Black Plague to me each year so I had to get out! I don’t have anything against carnations just my customers did not just not sure why. I think they smell wonderful and I too love all types of flowers! Don’t have anything against black cats but there are tons of them in shelters across the US. Quite racial I think JMO.

  15. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 1:16 pm

    PS When I ordered them for my shop they usually were in a bundle of 12, and you only have them on hand if a customer has requested an arrangement with them in it prior. They also have a very short flowering timespan and usually go limp in about 2 to 3 days too. It isn’t something a florist would pay for unless needed because you are wasting your money if you don’t sell them immediately. Hope this helps.

    • 04/01/2013 at 1:19 pm

      more and more interesting. More and more deliberate sounding.

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 2:52 pm

        Yes – your insight about deliberate is again spot on.

  16. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

    Anoher gem in the video with the Female detective (who DOES sound like Nurse Ratchatt btw) was after Detective Ratchatt mentions OJ. She says you know the media makes things. They don’t like “warm and fuzzy” they like “cold blooded murder” and after a long wait, ja asks how what she says could affect the media! When she asks ja if she wants people to think of OJ when they think of her, I think you see her start thinking, “well, why not? People followed it, he was famous,. Then she doesn’t answer for the longest time and just when you think she might say something relevant, she asks “do you know where my stuff is”?????
    With Female cop, she tried taikng of wedding pictures and proms but got nowhere. As soon as Detective Ratchatt went Oprah, ja responded! “Show me where I wasn’t wrong, Jodie. Show me your heart and not the exterior” On that personal ode to sap, Miss killer puts her head down on the table and pretends to moan.
    Shes been given every chance to show remorse, save the State expenses, show decency to the family and explain what she did
    .
    btw The F Detective:” idont think you could be the kind of person that could sit in a trial with Travis’ family and not have it tear you up”.
    Well, Detective,. Think again!

    • 04/01/2013 at 1:25 pm

      hahaha Robert see my post to you above! scary!

  17. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/01/2013 at 1:34 pm

    sidenote but, ja starts weeping at the thought her “wedding photos” wouldn’t be seen by the participants. Was she THE “wedding photographer” Must’ve been a low rent affair.

    • 04/01/2013 at 1:40 pm

      I’m putting a guess in here…. I don’t reckon she was.

      But her photos would have been better than anyone else’s anyhow surely? *fingers down throat* (borrowed from CC’c) *barf bag*

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 2:23 pm

      Probably at the JP Office at that!

  18. 04/01/2013 at 1:37 pm

    Shaeffer:

    You asked me to clarify something I posted to you yesterday. Hope this helps

    “Yep, let me translate here: “He wasn’t listening to me; I couldn’t get him to do what I needed; he just kept wanting to do things without me: I didn’t know what else to do I was losing my control over him; I was desperate” add nobody dares treat me like this!!”

    Ref
    At the 24 minute mark she said “It came to a point where I just couldn’t be ignored anymore!”

  19. Lisa M
    04/01/2013 at 1:39 pm

    truejustice :
    Why did she even feel the need to explain the why? The fact she sent any flowers at all was creepy enough. She often explains things when there is no explanation needed – classic sign of a liar – so the truth is probably even more creepy .. Yikes.

    That’s probably why she did it, because she was lying she felt she had to further embellish in her mind, to make it seem like a genuine gesture. But this has to be one of the creepiest things she’s done by far: send irises to the grandmother of the man she’s murdered because he likes the name Iris for the daughter he will never have because she murdered him. Doesn’t get much worse than that!

    • 04/01/2013 at 1:44 pm

      nup sowwy… the *still beat ya…. winner* wins the creep out stakes for me so far.

      Can’t get passed that one even yet.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 1:51 pm

        I totally concur “I still beat you…..winner” IS the number one creepiest things she has done or said by far.

      • Lisa M
        04/01/2013 at 2:13 pm

        You know what, Syntara? I’ve heard you guys mention it, but I just couldn’t bring myself to look further into the details, the when, why and what she was referring to when she made that comment (still beat ya), and that’s why I can’t compare it to the irises. But I’ll take your word for it!
        There are some things I actually can’t look at, because I get overwhelmed with so much rage, so I just take it bit by bit. I also can’t sit through any more of those interrogation videos and I even have to block my screen with my hand so I can’t see her face sometimes when I’m watching the trial. She is THAT heinous to me.

      • 04/01/2013 at 2:17 pm

        Lisa, seriously. Understandable

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 1:46 pm

      I can’t even watch the 48 Hours video anymore because the whole thing creeps me out just listening to her and seeing those eyes that look like a Great White shark. Just out and out scary! I would have to try so hard to think rationally if someone did that to my beloved grandmother.

      • Lisa M
        04/01/2013 at 2:02 pm

        I’ve dealt with a sociopath (my own diagnosis of the person who I had to deal with, not for Jodi) and really, there isn’t a bottom for them; there’s nothing too low for them, so I guess that’s why Jodi is capable of doing the things (other than the murder, which in and of itself, is heinous) she’s done, like sending the irises to Travis’ grandmother. I don’t know, though, if I can believe she did it to taunt her. I mean, I do believe she is a psychopath, but in her twisted way it is partly a ruse so that she wouldn’t be suspected of the murder, but it also shows her narcissism, in that her need for the respect of Travis’ family is narcissistic. Remember when she asked Detective Flores if Travis’ family knew she was a suspect? (I’m not 100% sure but I think that was the context of one conversation they had about his family.) She genuinely seemed worried about it. She wants to be viewed by everyone as a good person, and hence the 48 Hours sweeter than pie interview. She’s even admitted that on stand of course, but she tried to make it seem like a normal motive, and not the motive of a narcissist. So she’s sending the irises and the whole explanation about how Iris was Travis’ favorite name for a girl if he had a daughter because she’s still trying to seem like the nice, wonderful ex-girlfriend, who cherished Travis and she doesn’t have the insight to realize how twisted it is, since she’s the very reason he’ll never have a daughter he can name Iris. Her behavior all seems motivated by narcissism and psychopathy to me. I think she also, as we’ve seen through the trial, takes every chance she gets to demonstrate what a special, deep connection she and Travis had, so if she knows that was Travis’ favorite girl’s name, she’s also emphasizing that intimacy they had (in her mind only!)

      • Lisa M
        04/01/2013 at 2:06 pm

        Yeah, Kimmy, I would too. I imagine Travis’ siblings have to force themselves to think rationally each and every day in court. I can’t imagine being able to keep myself from leaping over the table and throttling her! I guess the threat of a mistrial would keep me from doing that, but it would be very, very (add a million “very’s”) hard!!!

      • 04/01/2013 at 2:14 pm

        Everything she does is deception, cruelty and by definition manipulative.

        She sets out to make a person believe her preferred reality. Not anything based on fact, based purely on what WOBO wants them to believe reality is.

        It’s a type of mind control and it’s what is so devastating to people around this type of person for any length of time. It’s the very behaviour that causes FOG.

        As many of you experienced by listening to her on the stand. You start to believe what she says, then you go batty trying to then deprogram from what she repeatedly stated, to what the truth is now revealing.

        Understand the dynamic? It’s psychological abuse.

        It’s the same method the defense tried to use when they put Dr Dodgy on the stand and because she actually made sense, more successfully with Alice in Wonderland.

        Colloquially called – spin. Because it spins the truth and your mind.

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 2:56 pm

      Yes yes yes but don’t forget the 18 page letter!

      • 04/02/2013 at 10:17 am

        Could you fill me in on the 18 page letter? Didn’t hear about that. Came to the trial late and also joined this site later. Thank you.

      • 04/02/2013 at 11:01 am

        Oh lawd the 18 page letter…. WOBO at her best I’d like to see it. I can only imagine it’d be more about her than him… can you imagine looking at that and knowing in your heart she was responsible. Trying to deal with your grief and the enormity of he audacity at the same time.

        OMG it would be enough to send you over the edge! She has no idea, no idea of empathy everything she does is self serving without one thought of how her actions affect others nor does she even care.

        grrrrrrrrrrr

  20. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 1:39 pm

    Yeah that kind of made me sick to hear F Detective saying show me your heart when she doesn’t even have a soul! She will go to the death never showing remorse or saying she is sorry because no matter what happens in her mind she has “won” the game regardless.

    • 04/01/2013 at 1:45 pm

      zegactly… no point appealing to something that isn’t there.

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 3:19 pm

      In that video I posted yesterday from Sept 2012 with Pat Brown & Taylor Searle on Dr Drew’s show – Pat Brown in her detailed explanation of her psychopathy actually discusses her “Winning” state of mind – it was eerie after Kimmy figured out that she actually SAID “Winner”!

  21. Gateway
    04/01/2013 at 1:54 pm

    Kimmy, you should read Chris Stark’s message I read yesterday about her scripting things from movies. It’s the one about the actress Zhang Ziyi and how ja lists the movies”House of Flying Daggers” Memoirs of a Geisha” “Crouching Tiger” and “Hidden Dragon”. Like it says, you will be dumbfounded by the parallels. Seems like she followed it to a tee. Absoubtly can’t wait for Baron Von Juan! He will totally be “The Juanvenator” with a BUZZ SAW !!!

  22. Kris
    04/01/2013 at 1:57 pm

    I’m so glad to have found this site. I’ve been reading the posts on the “innocent” web site and I want to puke.
    Question? Did anyone catch her lie on the stand during jury questioning about the gun? The question was how many times she saw the gun at Travis’s house. I cannot remember the number she stated but i do know she said she daw it once when she first discovered it and on June 4th when she used it to kill him. What she left out (because it never happened) and doesn’t match with her story is the day he supposedly got it out and loaded it to take it with him one day. I think that’s huge! It shows she is lying, he never had a gun.

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/01/2013 at 2:26 pm

      Well her gun testimony is so absurd it’;s hard to take it remotely seriously. She mentioned a holster at one time too. The idea that she grabbed a gun in that immaculate closet is not believable; everyone said he had no gun; there is no evidence oif a gun or ammo. The odd .25 caliber stolen from her grandfather while she was there has to be the same .25 caliber shot into Travis. Some lies are more blatant than others I guess.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 3:06 pm

      Welcome Kris! Our Welcome Wagon lady is out sick so you will get your greeting from soon.

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 3:46 pm

      Hi Kris and Welcome!!

      Yes! She said 3 times – “when she 1st discovered it while cleaning and then another time when cleaning that area and on June 4th.” BUT sometime during her testiphony she added another time “in Dec. when Travis took the gun and loaded it and then he took it out of the house to do something.” Of course ALL of that is a bunch of lies because she brought the gun. 🙂

  23. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 1:57 pm

    Syntara :
    Alternate reality is right… it’s just not the way the bleeding heart therapists Dodgy and Alice quite see it.
    It’s not benign it’s malignant.

    Well we know those two knuckleheads are each in their own world too and don’t have a clue either.
    Hey you think Dodgy is still off in a corner some where with his leg raised over his head still licking his wounds from that “ASS” whooping he took my JM? 🙂 Toilet head is gonna be right beside him soon!

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/01/2013 at 2:14 pm

      Kimmy–great work on the “winner” audible and couldn’t agree more about Miss KimonoKnowitall.I am praying the cross starts tomorrow and Juan skins here layer by layer.I think AZ taxpayers would be upset that this social worker who couldn’t get a job at any reputable university psychology department, would be milking them for so many hours on so little available material.When an “ëxpert”starts spouting her opinion about Julia Roberts films, you hve to pause and ask yourself, why this nonsense? I also hope Juan makes clear whether or not she claims to be objective. She was rather cavalier about sending self help books to someone which could be interopreted as a way to provide a vocabulary of abuse to the prisoner.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 2:45 pm

        I agree and pray we can get cross in tomorrow too. And now Toilet head is just quoting the lies Jodi told her verbatim! The taxpayers should be highly insulted with both of these morons that should have been paid way less since they are still going by standards from the 60’s and 70’s. Neither of them mentioned any current Continuing Medical Education Training and you should as hell could tell too!

      • 04/01/2013 at 3:04 pm

        You know what’s funny? The defense dragged out Alice in Wonderland’s diatribe so Juan Baby couldn’t cross… but heeellloooo morons… you’ve given him 4 extra days to prepare mmaahahahahahahahaha

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 3:51 pm

        Oh if ONLY cross would start tomr! I pray that I’m wrong but I think that it’s conceivable that JW will have ALV go through e-v-e-r-y sex act that Blubber Bloat went through with her on direct and every fabricated violent interchange etc, which means that it could go on through Thurs. Please let me 100% wrong.

  24. Schaeffer
    04/01/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Just so nobody runs out of things to analyze . . . take a close listen to the June 10th phone call between Flores and The Whore of Babble-On — The WOBO. I am really puzzled by the following.

    She told Detective Flores she had planned to stay in Travis’ house while he was in Cancun, “but the money didn’t come together.” That is SO stalker-ish — who goes to stay in someone’s house when they are gone? He didn’t need a house sitter or a dog sitter; she just wanted to have a week to snoop around, and when he got back, she would have been moved in lock, stock, and barrel, and he would have played hell getting her out of there. I’m quite sure he didn’t know she was planning this, but even if she had proposed it, he would have vetoed it. If he had any idea she was going to do that, I hope he would have had the sense to change the locks and the security codes and alert his roommates to watch out for her. I am sure his roommates would not have been cool with the idea of her being there without him, either. Do you think she was really planning to do this or was it just another story? Remember, this is a conversation the day after Travis was found, so she wasn’t a suspect yet.

    Also, during the interrogation after her arrest, Flores asked her several times and in several ways if Travis was expecting her. She finally said “He was glad to see me.” which is NOT an answer to the question he asked. I just do not think he was expecting her. Once Tracey A gets back from the ball game I will have to get her input on Jodi’s travels.

    • 04/01/2013 at 2:22 pm

      ROFLMAO!!!! so far got no further than

      Just so nobody runs out of things to analyze

      …….. and HAD to post!!!! Hahahahaha

      • 04/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

        Seriously?

        I translate this as… “I wanted to stay in his house while he was in Cancun but he laughed in my face.. so I brought a ticket there instead and tried to guilt him into meeting me there and dumping Mimi.

        None of it worked so I snuck into his house at 3 or 4am and he let me sleep there then I tricked him into doing some poses for me when he was in the shower. Of course he thought I’d left but stupid him I hadn’t and then because hen rejected me so often and so harshly I taught him a lesson!”

        To Travis: “Still beat ya… winner.”

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 3:55 pm

        Agree with all except Chris Stark has updated her info and now that Interrogation videos have been released it’s now known that the Priceline ticket on her credit card statement was not for Cancun but to go to Travis’ memorial service in Mesa.

      • 04/01/2013 at 3:57 pm

        aaah ok thanks. So why didn’t she fly the other trip? ok rhetorical… lol!

    • Lisa M
      04/01/2013 at 3:15 pm

      I don’t think he was expecting her. She wouldn’t have said, “He was glad to see me,” otherwise. Though I can’t remember the exact information from the phone records, I don’t think there’s anything that supports that they had multiple calls or texts before she arrives. She had arrived in the middle of the night before so it wouldn’t have been that out of the ordinary.

  25. Lisa D
    04/01/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Why is there no court today? (4/1/13) I swear they are always taking frivolous days off. Those poor jurors!

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/01/2013 at 2:37 pm

      Happens all over the USA. Lawyers run everything in the judicial system. It’s not as if there is a regulatory body that can have input. They set schedules, accept the whole system of hourly pay and accept all sorts of their own definitions for conflicts etc.They. make all sorts of exceptions for each other, often at the expense of the ëveryday” person. Its somewhat appalling even though we know there are many good things etc etc about our system, the monopoly by lawyers of the whole system is deadly I think. In many cases. its the people prolonging a process who are the only ones who benefit from the process.

      I write this as one who has been involved in a half dozen cases and another half dozen in small claims court.English professors, for instance, teach longer and organize better than the average court personnel. I’d rather they organize it for the lawyers to partake in, rather than the lawyers calling all the shots all the time.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/02/2013 at 12:57 pm

        I beg your pardon, R from R, but that is simply not the case. Where I am, court is held 5 days a week, starts PROMPTLY at 9am and sometimes goes late, depending, and the judges do not think twice about requiring the lawyers to arrive early, stay late, not to mention start trial whenever the judge sees fit.
        Lawyers do not control court scheduling. The courts–administrative sections–and the judges are the ones who control it all. Many lawyers are forced to try cases, back to back to back and if an expert cannot be in court on whatever day, the judge will order all counsel to take a video-taped deposition of the expert at night–well into the wee hours if necessary– so that the jurors are not subject to any delay. (They have to sit and watch the video vs. live testimony, which is terrible for the side offering the expert, because it isn’t anywhere near as meaningful on a video/small screen tv.)
        Small claims court is the “People’s Court”– Judge Wapner; Judge Judy, etc. That isn’t something one can even compare to a major crimes unit jury trial.

        I don’t know where you have had your experiences, but here in Philadelphia, PA, and the surrounding counties and in New Jersey (I am a member of both bars), the lawyers do not have any control over the pace at which a case proceeds to trial. There are pre-ordained case management Orders that set forth deadlines for everything and it takes a major unforseen event in order to alter that schedule.
        Lawyers I know have had to cancel HONEYMOON plans. Yeah. Reschedule your Honeymoon.

        Arizona is a bit of an anomaly, to say the least, and this judge is being overly cautious with the side bars. I have never seen anything like it in over 20 yrs of practice.

        I think, once again, the high profile nature of the case/the media frenzy are als part and parcel of the problem.
        For example, had HLN’s Jean C not made a comment about a juror possibly seeing someone posing for photos with the prosecutor, and had Jodi’s counsel not been made aware of it, there would have been no additional delay caused by the ensuing motion and follow up questioning of jurors, etc. That is something that just never happens in the regular flow of a trial.

        Anyway-
        I don’t want people to get the wrong idea about who controls what, and/or how most courts are run.

        Love so much of what you post here, but this one.. not so much.

  26. Ashley B
    04/01/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Question: Can JM get Chris or Sky Hughes on the stand to let either of them explain what they were talking about when they “warned” Jodi?

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/01/2013 at 2:21 pm

      its just an educated guess, but I’d say yes definitely.

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 3:57 pm

      Robert is right and they are both on the prosecution’s rebuttal list

      • 04/01/2013 at 5:39 pm

        Does the jury get to hear the rebuttal? thank you.

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 6:59 pm

        md6953 – Yes jury gets to hear all of rebuttal.

  27. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/01/2013 at 2:20 pm

    As many have mentioned, we sometimes take her account of things as fact when we have no reason to. She rambles to fill her thinking time. Yeah right. Drive 1000 miles to stay in his place while he’s gone, but she KNOWS that there is a lOT of info that just 2 people knew and now one of them is dead.

    • Lisa M
      04/01/2013 at 3:18 pm

      Exactly, Robert. It’s reminding me of the Casey Anthony case (gee, that’s original, I know!) in that no one will ever know what really happened. In this case, we know A LOT, we know enough to prove premeditation, etc, but we won’t ever know everything because she is the only witness to the crime and she is never going to tell the truth as we know. But with any inveterate liar, there are bits and pieces of the truth weaved through the lies, so some of it is true, some of it is a lie, and we may never know exactly which is which.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/02/2013 at 1:25 pm

        All we know for sure is that she literally ambushed him when he was vulnerable (naked, in the cramped space of that stall shower), and that she stabbed and slashed him with the knife repeatedly before she shot him in the head.
        Perhaps she had Travis facing the wall of the shower stall, pretending to set up a photo of his back, and–out of nowhere–stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, stab,stab, stab, stab to his back….Travis, in serious pain and utter confusion, turns to face her, and STAB, she thrusts the knife into his chest, reaching his heart… he staggers forward in disbelief– what the hell is she doing??– and slash, slash, she continues to slice at him, tearing the flesh of his hands which are held up in an attempt to defend himself for the first time…
        She backs off for a few moments– in sheer glee at her “handy work”, allowing Travis to stagger over to the sink where he is looking at his reflection in the mirror and expectorating blood all over that general area… he realizes he needs to try to get away.. and starts down the hall.. but Jodi has other plans. She is likely screaming at him; saying outragous things, letting her venomous rage finally spew forth. Travis falls to his knees and she holds his head up from behind, once again weilding the knife, this time intent on ending his life, slashing his throat from ear to ear. And still Travis has life left inside him. He is still breathing.. and moaning in pain… “He wouldn’t STOP..He wouldn’t STOP” (as she testified on the stand. Notably, when Nurmi asked her what she MEANT by that, expecting her to say something to the effect of Travis wouldn’t stop coming at her, Jodi was SILENT. She would not answer that question. VERY TELLING.)
        In any event.. whatever the sequence of initial stab wounds was, it is clear that his throat was slashed at the end of the hallway and that he was likely shot near where the bullet casing was found, sitting in a pool of Travis’ coagulated blood.

        The jury needs to hear something like this. They need to have a picture of events so that they can imagine the sheer horror that Travis faced that day, and they need to get away from the picture that Jodi has painted so they can appreciate the impossibility of all of her fabricated story about what happened that day.

        They need to envision Travis being ambushed; being confused and in pain and then sheer terror, all the while losing copious amounts of his blood, his very life draining out of him in his own home, where one should feel most safe and secure.

        If the genders of the victim and perp were switched in this case, (as is the case in the overwhelming majority of this type of homicide–i.e. obsessed former lover/stalker) the defense would be that it happened in the “heat of passion” (which is not an absolute defense, but rather just a way for the jury to come back with a reduced verdict of 2nd degree murder, thereby taking the DP and LWOP off the table. Interesting is that Jodi offered to plead guilty to 2nd degree murder of Travis. Hardly something one would consider if it truly was self-defense. The jury will not know this now– offers of “compromise” are inadmissible to prove guilt– but they surely will learn of it after their verdict is in and their service is completed.

  28. Gateway
    04/01/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Syn & Kimmy, here is the Chris Stark link you were asking about: twitlonger.com/show/laiqve
    Another thing I found astounding in watching those tapes is how she so casually told Det. F she had had a” nervous breakdown ” one time. To top it off she said it twice!

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 2:52 pm

      I don’t have a Twitter account so can I just cut and paste this link into my Goggle URL? Usually on here they are highlighted in dark blue. Thanks.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/02/2013 at 1:34 pm

      Gateway- about her ALLEGED “nervous breakdown”… Did you listen to the way she described it?! That is NOT a nervous breakdown. That is called being upset over an argument with your boyfriend. And supposedly, that happened with Darryl, right?? And she made him out to be highly aggressive during that fight. Notice how it is always the other person who is causing the problems for “poor Jodi”. I wonder if she was considering keeping the door open for a future “insanity” defense down the road as she offered that bizarre comment. Twice.

  29. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Lisa M :
    Yeah, Kimmy, I would too. I imagine Travis’ siblings have to force themselves to think rationally each and every day in court. I can’t imagine being able to keep myself from leaping over the table and throttling her! I guess the threat of a mistrial would keep me from doing that, but it would be very, very (add a million “very’s”) hard!!!

    I agree. I have the utmost respect for the Alexander family sitting there taking all this abuse from her, and holding their heads high taking the higher road, and being how young they are too. They’re grandmother did an awesome drop raising them to be mature young adults. Kudos to her for that! It will pay off for them in the long run because they each get to tell her how they feel at sentencing, and get it all of their chest which is allowed. At least I hope AZ it’s allowed.

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/01/2013 at 2:42 pm

      Ditto to that! I think the grandmother deserves a big curtain call, posthumous or not. Having a bunch of kids and giving them a path to follow and showing love and affection for their upbringing. As I wrote elsewhere, I’m from a large family and had the advantages of stability and education and all sorts of things we took for granted.The Alexanders earned their distinction the old fashioned way–they earned it. By dedication and commitment. They are admired throughout the world for their poise and their determination to bear witness. Let us praise these men and women.

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 4:08 pm

        This grandmother was a hero of sorts to me. His grandmother was the salt of the earth, just an awesome human being and a very strong role model — what a blessing that her life’s work proved to be! She was the cardinal and chief influence that produced the 7 Alexander kids to all succeed in life. Sadly, she died in Dec. 2012 before justice for Travis was achieved. All the siblings that have spoken speak about the strong love they all feel for her but also for their parents and that they look forward to seeing them again in Heaven. Even these meth addicted parents must have made it known to their children how much they were loved even when living in tents or pooping in canisters outside.

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 4:09 pm

        Robert – you stated this with a lot of eloquence.

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 2:49 pm

      Victim statements are allowed in AZ.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 3:14 pm

        Oh good. I can’t wait to watch that! Who thinks JA will look them in the face while they speak or will she look down? I don’t know how a sociopath would act. Bottom line is she has to hear them call her evil and she can’t say or do a damn thing about it.

      • Schaeffer
        04/02/2013 at 3:01 am

        Victim impact statements (VISs) do not factor into the guilt or innocence phase of the jury deliberations; they are part of the penalty phase. Only family members will be allowed to submit VISs, and they can either make them orally or submit them in writing. I am certain each of Travis’s siblings will prepared a VIS, and perhaps his grandmother prepared one prior to her death.

        Due to the stress of the situation, it is very common for family members to be unable to continue under the circumstances. If this happens, someone else may read it for the courtroom, or it will go to the jury in written form only. The importance of VISs cannot be overstated, for both the victims and the jury.

  30. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 2:39 pm

    Lisa M :
    I’ve dealt with a sociopath (my own diagnosis of the person who I had to deal with, not for Jodi) and really, there isn’t a bottom for them; there’s nothing too low for them, so I guess that’s why Jodi is capable of doing the things (other than the murder, which in and of itself, is heinous) she’s done, like sending the irises to Travis’ grandmother. I don’t know, though, if I can believe she did it to taunt her. I mean, I do believe she is a psychopath, but in her twisted way it is partly a ruse so that she wouldn’t be suspected of the murder, but it also shows her narcissism, in that her need for the respect of Travis’ family is narcissistic. Remember when she asked Detective Flores if Travis’ family knew she was a suspect? (I’m not 100% sure but I think that was the context of one conversation they had about his family.) She genuinely seemed worried about it. She wants to be viewed by everyone as a good person, and hence the 48 Hours sweeter than pie interview. She’s even admitted that on stand of course, but she tried to make it seem like a normal motive, and not the motive of a narcissist. So she’s sending the irises and the whole explanation about how Iris was Travis’ favorite name for a girl if he had a daughter because she’s still trying to seem like the nice, wonderful ex-girlfriend, who cherished Travis and she doesn’t have the insight to realize how twisted it is, since she’s the very reason he’ll never have a daughter he can name Iris. Her behavior all seems motivated by narcissism and psychopathy to me. I think she also, as we’ve seen through the trial, takes every chance she gets to demonstrate what a special, deep connection she and Travis had, so if she knows that was Travis’ favorite girl’s name, she’s also emphasizing that intimacy they had (in her mind only!)

    I never thought that a person could not hit rock bottom eventually, but you are right, there isn’t a bottom for her. She is able to keep digging and digging with her lies to get to another level. Well put Lisa. I guess they only reach the bottom when they are dead.

  31. 04/01/2013 at 2:54 pm

    Robert…… Robert…. ROOOOBBBBEERT Read and jump baby!!

    (posted in full because Schaeffer has troible accessing twitter urls )

    Thanks to Gateway much appreciated.

    #JodiArias Zhang Ziyi MOVIE REFERENCES: Jodi lists House of Flying Daggers, Memoirs of a Geisha movie, and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon —- all starring the same actress, Zhang Ziyi — I think Jodi believes she resembles this actress. Again, all three movies are on JODI list of favorites on her myspace. The actress, Zhang Ziyi = does Jodi stalk her?

    If you watch: House of Flying Daggers movie you will be dumbfounded by the parallels — I really do believe that movie affected Jodi profoundly, and that she either consciously or subconsciously incorporated many many scenes, images, and thoughts from the movie into her life.

    Just a small taste from the movie; bear in mind that these are English subtitles, imperfectly translated from Mandarin:

    K= Killer(Jilted lover)
    V= Victim
    L= Victim’s chosen lover

    K: (anguished and furious) I sacrificed three years for you! How can you love him after just three days?

    L: When can we meet again?
    V: It can’t happen. We’re from different worlds. If we meet again, one of us is going to die.

    (Victim has been stabbed in the heart by Killer for deciding to depart to accompany her chosen Lover on a journey of escape; she is dying.)

    K: (angry, tears) You are the love of my life! I can’t force you to love me. But you cannot go with him! It will cost you your life. You see? You made me destroy you.

    V: (dying, stabbed through the heart) I knew that you would do this.

    K: (losing it) You knew, and you will go anyway?? (freaks out, raging; angry with Victim for ‘making’ him do this) WHY?? WHY??

    (Victim falls. Killer screams in anguish.)

    The movie also includes:

    The lover getting turned on after dressing the female in boy’s clothes.

    A woman expertly throwing lethal knives, causing a stab in the throat, and causing another person’s throat to be slit.

    The same woman, sweet and childlike, being arrested, interrogated by the police (martial) and threatened with torture… but she remains demure and doesn’t give up her secrets.

    A dance scene (subliminal sex scene) in what amounts to a brothel, where the man is very drowsy, almost falling asleep at times. He is a guy who is discussed as a colossal “flirt.” In the scene, his arousal seems to include sadistic or degrading elements toward the woman. She is child-like and yet she is a stunning virtuoso at dancing (subliminal sex). She is not what she seems. She pretends to be blind. She pretends to be naive. She has secret motives.

    The scene plays out similar to Jodi’s ‘phone sex recording,’ even to the point of the sleepy man and the stealthy seductive woman singing together; him sounding sleepy, silly and off-key; her doing her best in her little girl voice.

    ^And notably, in this scene, the man uses his sword to cut the rope-braid closures on her clothing, and rather violently removes her outer garment.

    He also attacks her by “lunging at her like a linebacker,” grabbing her, spinning her around, throwing her face down and getting on top of her so she can’t get up… like JA’s lying testimony about TA.

    She does the backward yoga stretch, too. All the way, head upside down, just like Jodi did in the interrogation room.

    The girl is ordered by a female superior that she must kill the man she loves. “I have a task for you… He is no longer of use to us. You will take him out, kill him. He’s a danger to our plan. His death is necessary to guard against future trouble.”

    When the girl is arrested, the police search her room and find a set of deadly knives. It is highly incriminating evidence. This is what leads to her interrogation. She is cool and courageous, and keeps up her cover with them.

    • 04/01/2013 at 2:55 pm
      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/01/2013 at 3:02 pm

        Hello Syntara. i am Robert’s wife. He’s fallen on the floor with an almost frozen like face. It part horror and part confusion. He kept pointing to this synopsis you just posted. He’s breathing again, but it may take ahile before you hear from him. Thanks!

      • 04/01/2013 at 3:05 pm

        oops sorry!!!!! 😛 Hope he is ok! 😀

        Take good care of him!

    • Lisa M
      04/01/2013 at 3:11 pm

      OMG!! Super creepy!

    • LindaLou
      04/01/2013 at 3:16 pm

      OMG – this is sooo unbelievable! This girl is sick and downright evil, evil, evil.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 3:22 pm

      Holy shit!!!! It’s everything she did to him. Oh man they gotta stop making movies like that so pychos can go and act out in real life. Oh my god that is scary! I’ve got goose bumps!

    • Moon
      04/02/2013 at 12:30 am

      that is just so beyond freaky. you continue to amaze me, syn! i never saw any of the movies the hodi mentioned, and it occurs to me that i never want to. Also, i wish that HLN would STOP showing her trying to sing. All day long “oh holy night” was in my head. I have always loved that song but their constant replaying of it (and the beast’s rendention of it) is destroying it for me!

  32. Anna
    04/01/2013 at 2:57 pm

    Lisa :
    Hey Anna, how about I make an apple pie?

    Hey Lisa! Are you the one coming to my chicken fried dinner? Either way, yes to apple pie and yes to a la mode! Can’t wait! 🙂

    • 04/01/2013 at 4:07 pm

      Yes, I’m the one who invited myself for dinner..lol

  33. Wendy
    04/01/2013 at 2:58 pm

    I didn’t start keeping up with the trial until part way through JAs testimony. Did Mimi hall testify?

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 3:04 pm

      Mimi Hall was the first witness to take the stand

      • Wendy
        04/01/2013 at 3:36 pm

        Thanks.

  34. truejustice
    04/01/2013 at 3:00 pm

    This just in : new case docs filed. I sure hope this is just the docs coming through from the Jm pic issue last week. I had heard that the judge had already questions each juror individually and no-one was dismissed. ( I cant remember where I saw that … it may not be true) I AM PRAYING ALL IS OK TO PROCEED – FOR THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF TA,

    Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
    3/31/2013 MOT – Motion – Party (001) 4/1/2013
    NOTE: MOTION FOR MISTRIAL: JUROR MISCONDUCT
    3/31/2013 OBJ – Objection/Opposition. – Party (001) 4/1/2013

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 3:06 pm

      The note for the objection/opposition :
      NOTE: DEDEFENDANT’S OBJECTION TO ELICITING TESTIMONY OR MAKING ARGUMENT RELATED TO AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES FOR WHICH PROBABLE CAUSE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 4:17 pm

        Judge Stephens has not ruled yet on this latest ploy by Blubber Bloat to petition for a mistrial along with claiming prosecutorial misconduct. He’s done this 2 other times during this trial. I highly doubt that the judge will affirm these. I do know that tomr morning the judge will have the producer from HLH, I forget her name, testify under oath, as Jean C did. I heard on the news that the judge completed the interviewing of all jurors on Thurs after testimony ended for the day and the jury is still intact so that is a good sign. It wouldn’t surprise me if this sleazy defense team attempted this even once more before the jury deliberates.

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 7:05 pm

        True Justice – You’re right – This is another and separate complaint by the defense – supposedly directed at juror #5 for juror misconduct. #5 is “Tricolor-Early 30′s, short, stylish haircut with three colors, reminds me of one of my hairstylists. She probably gave more facial expressions than any of the others. She is very engaged and took a fair amount of notes.” from our court lady’s notes.

    • 04/01/2013 at 3:15 pm

      Translation of above plse? Does that read it was filed today?

      Don’t they have backup jurors anyhow? Is this yet another defense furphy?

      • truejustice
        04/01/2013 at 3:36 pm

        I am not really sure. The juror thing is confusing. He alleged prosecution misconduct — but maybe since it’s related to juror maybe seeing .. they file it formally under juror ??

        The other thing is just an attempt the limit the Jm and his rebuttal witnesses from testifying or talking about the aggravating circumstances (legal word for things that allow them to boost the charge .. such as priors (none here), extreme cruelty etc) if they have not already been found to have probable cause (evidence).

        Syntara .: I may have over explained those terms – given you knowledge –sorry 🙂

      • Schaeffer
        04/01/2013 at 9:45 pm

        I wouldn’t worry too much. On 15 January, Sandy Arias, WOBO’s mother, testified in chambers she had info on juror misconduct by a specific juror, but it went nowhere. As was borne out during Juan’s questioning of Jean Casarez, he (Juan) usually enters and leaves through a side door. He is not seeking out publicity; even if he had simply said “I’m sorry, I can’t sign your cane.” or whatever, the defense would still have filed a motion for mistrial because he spoke to someone. It is just a desperation move. Fuck ’em if they can’t take a joke.

      • 04/01/2013 at 9:55 pm

        ya tweedle dee and tweedle dum are just grasping at straws hopefully nothing will come of it 😀

    • dandelion61
      04/01/2013 at 3:21 pm

      oh no….i see this as well….this is not good. unless its just another defense ploy.

  35. Moon
    04/01/2013 at 3:06 pm

    mmd… hope you are feeling better!

  36. Gateway
    04/01/2013 at 3:12 pm

    OMFG!!!!!! Syn, I’am friggin’ hysterical reading the post from Robert’s wife. I can just picture him one the floor with that frozen face!!!
    I told you – isn’t this chilling & followed exactly to plan???? I need to now go to Home Depot to buy a blue tarp for my screen as I spewed all over it. Forget about covering with the plastic wrap!!!!!

    • 04/01/2013 at 3:18 pm

      Gateway.. just to give you a little background.

      Robert and I have been having a friendly “disagreement” over all the movie and drama references and if they are deliberate or coincidental for well over a week now.

      You just gave me the knockout punch… which is why he is out cold on the floor!

      As I said… MUCH appreciated! 😀

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 3:24 pm

        ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Syn you really did give Robert the knock out punch with that post! BAM!

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 3:35 pm

        Wow where Chrissie A? She’s missing this!

  37. Schaeffer
    04/01/2013 at 3:12 pm

    Let me start by saying I have the utmost respect for anyone who works as a waitress, because I would be the world’s worst. Customers meals would more than likely end up dumped in their laps than on the table, so to anyone who has ever waitressed, please do not be offended.

    Jodi was a 28 year old high school dropout, who had never done anything but waitress. She didn’t even work at progressively more upscale establishments. Until she got involved with PPL, she had no career aspirations, she just moved up the ladder of boyfriends as she met ones who were better providers. It was stated she never earned more than $40 a month (the lowest possible amount) from her PPL affiliation the entire time she was involved, and I don’t believe she ever really worked at it. She went to conventions, training seminars, business practices seminars, tax seminars, Super Saturdays blah blah blah nearly every weekend, but these were only an excuse to hang around Travis AND keep an eye on him.

    She had more jobs than I could count. I heard one co-worker state Jodi’s last action before coming to work was to talk to Travis, and if she couldn’t get him on the phone, she refused to report to work until she talked to him, and then she continued to contact him throughout her shift. When she was living in Palm Desert, she thought nothing of working until 11 pm, then driving 600 miles round trip to see him, only to be back at work the next day. She also said anytime Jodi got in trouble at work, she responded with that flat affect and her only reaction was ” So what? Means nothing to me, doesn’t affect me.”

    She seemed to have more money and more time off for traveling than any waitress I’ve ever known; did she just quit her jobs if they interfered with her social life? When did either one of them have time to work? Several of his friends said Travis was having serious financial trouble after he got involved with Jodi, and I wonder if he wasn’t devoting enough time to his work? Jodi owed money to everyone — Travis, her parents, her grandparents, at least two ex-boyfriends, another man named Paul who lent her the money for the fateful last trip, her car was being repossessed, her credit cards were maxed out .. in other words, she had lost all sense of fiscal reality and responsibility, assuming she ever had any. They spent a lot of money traveling, and I am sure Travis must have paid up front, with Jodi promising she would pay him back. On the stand, she claimed she did, but we all know how believable that it. And of course, Travis kept having to replace all those broken drinking glasses, slashed tires, and probably his girlfriend’s tires.

    Also, doesn’t it seem odd that Jodi made no mention of any friends other than Travis? I know she was around some of his friends in group settings, but she never mentioned doing anything with anyone else, like shopping or going to the movies. Do you think she had friends and she just cast them aside so she could spend all her time with Travis, or do you think she never really had any friends to begin with? I imagine she would alienate any friends very quickly because she took advantage of them and I’m sure she just wasn’t worth it. She tried to isolate Travis from his friends, but did she also impose a sort of self isolation? How closely related to a classic battering pattern is this? I find it odd she has only paid experts testifying on her behalf. Do you think anyone will show up to speak for her at her sentencing?

    Are all of thing things common to her diagnosis, or is it just her?

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 4:30 pm

      She had no girlfriends and her only “friends” were ex lovers – which is strange, if you ask me. I too believe that Travis paid for the vast majority of the multiple trips. No wonder, he was in financial straights once he was involved with this succubus. I’m glad that you mentioned her co-worker from one of her jobs in Palm Desert. She knew the real Jodi. She made absolutely chilling statements to the media about the time that WOBO (I love that moniker, Schaeffer!) agreed to care for a co-worker’s cat for 2 weeks. She nearly killed that cat and then in the interrogation video when she ADMITTED to kicking DoggyBoy. Wow. Just wow! She wasn’t grade school age when she reportedly hit her younger brother over the head with a frying pan — she was in high school!! She is such a revolting person.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 6:30 pm

      I agree she was just moving up each ladder rung until she found Travis regardless of how many guys she had to use to get there. She new she found “gold” when she met him because of his success and stability. Obviously the past relationships remained amicable so she could go back and use them for favors and money like a clever Sheba as she is her premeditation. I wish I knew what each of them are thinking now that if they had crossed her in some way in the past would she have started killing sooner with them.

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:21 pm

      I have always wondered how she (JA) had all that money for gas, etc. to go all the places she did on waitress tips. Obviously I am tipping too much (LOL). Seriously, where did those two $400 deposits come from that went into her bank on her route? Turning tips?

  38. dandelion61
    04/01/2013 at 3:17 pm

    about the 20 irises….she testified it was 20 because travis’ father died when travis was 20.

  39. jfjinca
    04/01/2013 at 3:18 pm

    Syntara :
    maybe as simple as that was all the florist had? If I come across anything that points to why 20… I’ll definitely post it

    This is my thought: Travis’ dad died on his 20th birthday. If he was the grandmother’s son, it would hurt like hell if someone sent me flowers to remind me that my son died tragically and now my grandson had been murdered.

    • dandelion61
      04/01/2013 at 3:27 pm

      she would get sick pleasure from that. as twisted as she is

    • 04/01/2013 at 3:35 pm

      Yikes!

      JM said Jodi killed Travis’ grandmother… Wormi objected.
      I remember it because I knew nothing of this at the time and I thought ok what is the story behind that? I thinks it’s coming all too clear. Clearer than I care to deliberate over. I am betting much of the family blame Jodi for her death as well. Broken heart?

      *shaking my head in utter disbelief*

  40. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 3:28 pm

    Wow jfjinca! That makes total sense too. Ohhhhh that evil bitch. Just cold to the core.

  41. 04/01/2013 at 3:30 pm

    ok.. Schaeffer… hate to say it but all typical. nutshell answer

    1. Parasitic
    2. Promiscuous / seductive
    3. Clingy to the point of obsessively needy
    4. Flat affect (you know)
    5. Never allow friend groupings to meet. Isolate at all costs or lies will come out.

  42. Moon
    04/01/2013 at 3:36 pm

    It would be great if Juan could put together a video for his closing arguments that show the many times HODI has lied on the stand. I know there are several times, i mentioned one about the phones being able to record. Also there was the entire starbucks fiasco … first she says she got her infamous strawberry fraps.. then during cross she said she didn’t get one because the place was packed, says she goes outside and sees the skaters, etc. so Juan says “so you just put the license plate in your car and left” (she had already said she got right back in her car and locked the doors because she was spooked); yet she says yes with my frap!
    At one time I thought the only TRUTH to come from her lips was when she was asked “if you hadn’t have been caught would you have ever admitted to this”. She replies honestly, I don’t know the answer to that. Then it dawned on me that her HONEST answer would have been “hell to the no I wouldn’t have”!
    I love how the docs say she fabricated (to make up for the purpose of deception) a different reality, and Juan says right, a lie! right on!

    I wonder if the judge is considering to sequester now. I imagine those jurors cannot get away with even stepping foot out their doors. The sensationalism is everywhere.

    I just hope and pray that these jurors are not cut from the same cloth as the CA jurors.

    • 04/01/2013 at 3:46 pm

      It’d go for months!…. can you imagine! but would be great to watch WOBO having to sit through it. You’d literally see the horns grow, the tail unfurl and the trident come out. She’d be trying to zap Juan baby and reduce him to a pile of ashes.

    • LindaLou
      04/01/2013 at 4:21 pm

      Moon, JM’s closing arguments ought to be a sight to hear/watch. I can hardly wait for the rebuttal and closing arguments. It still scares me a little about all of the information we are privy to that the jurors are not. JM’s gotta really hit it out of the park to get all 12 to agree. I pray that’ll be the case.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 6:33 pm

      I wouldn’t think they are like the CA jurors. They have asked too many which IMO signify they are buying her story. At least I pray they aren’t. It would have been interesting to see what juror questions were asked in the CA trial if allowed.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 7:24 pm

        Good Lord I meant have asked too many questions which IMO they are NOT buying her story. I’ve been on here too long today. {{sigh}}

    • Schaeffer
      04/01/2013 at 9:51 pm

      They might — emphasize might — sequester the jurors during deliberations only. It isn’t common, but it isn’t unheard of either.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 10:02 pm

        This is true. Okay Schaeffer what is this catch phrase you WOBO? Is that right? I can’t figure it out.

  43. 04/01/2013 at 3:37 pm

    Kimmy :
    Wow where Chrissie A? She’s missing this!

    Kimmy she said she’d be busy today.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 6:36 pm

      Oh yeah I forgot. Too many posts to remember. 😦 I think we quite a few bloggers join today. Boy MMD has her work cut out for her trying to catch and be the Welcome Wagon lady too. 😀

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 6:36 pm

        catch up

  44. 04/01/2013 at 3:40 pm

    truejustice :
    I am not really sure. The juror thing is confusing. He alleged prosecution misconduct — but maybe since it’s related to juror maybe seeing .. they file it formally under juror ??

    Syntara .: I may have over explained those terms – given you knowledge –sorry

    No no not at all. Thank you for the succinct clarification, much appreciated. 🙂

  45. Ann Cast
    04/01/2013 at 3:48 pm

    I am really concerned regarding these new motions that were filed today with regards to: 1. Juror misconduct and 2. something about aggravating circumstances. What do they mean and are they going to take up Tuesday’s time and could this possibly cause an actual mistrial for that she devil? Can someone who is qualified with the law, please clarify what is happening here?

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 4:04 pm

      OMG ___ TOTALLY OFF SUBJECT . SHARON OSBORNE JUST ANNOUNCED SHE IS PREGNANT VIA INVITRO . THIS IS SO A APRIL FOOLS JOKE RIGHT ???

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 7:43 pm

        Has to be and a good April Fools at that I must say!

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 4:12 pm

      Ann: sorry that was so not meant to be a reply.. I was in the middle of replying to your post . SO SORRY!
      ANYWAY…

      1. Yes, juror misconduct can cause a mistrial. if this is about the JM pic , if a juror saw him , and told other jurors – they may have been influenced.

      2. Just another attempt to limit the information that Juam can talk about. Aggrivating circumstances are those that allow the crime to carry a longer sentence/ in this case the DP.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 6:37 pm

      WhereIsShe is an attorney but haven’t seen her in a while. Maybe she will see your post and respond soon.

  46. 04/01/2013 at 3:54 pm

    okies I must off and get zzzzz’s let’s hope The Wormi and Perky show is unsuccessful in their 45456676th mistrial motion and we get to see The Heat Is Juan action soooooooon!!!!!

    byeeeee all take care. almost 4am here!

    • LindaLou
      04/01/2013 at 4:26 pm

      Good nite (morning)’ Syn. Sleep well.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 6:39 pm

      Nitey nite Syn. **************waves************** Enjoyed your posts today. 😀

  47. Teresa Santos
    04/01/2013 at 4:58 pm

    Very recently I became aware of the fact that Jodi Arias joined the youtube community (jodiannarias) less than a week before killing Travis Alexander, and has only uploaded one video – it appears to be him, but I couldn’t be sure because he’s on a standup act with a wig on; it is ‘intended’ as a tribute video, from what I gathered. Those who saw it must have found this intention highly questionable, because it really could be interpreted as a ”the joke’s on you” kind of thing, it would make sense if she was truly convinced she’d get away with this. This was after she supposedly knew of his – as she likes to put it – passing away, but although i can’t see the specific date, it must have been before she was ever taken in for interrogation.

    Can anyone tell me if Juan Martinez brought this issue up, and, if so, when? Or, if not, why?
    I’m assuming I must have missed it somehow, because although I’m no expert, creating this account so close to june 4th, and using it only once to post a rather curious (to say the least) tribute video, seems pretty relevant to prove intention. Of course she’d come up with some excuse for that fact as well, but I’m sure Martinez would have some interesting questions for both Jodi and her friend Samuels. In the videos I’ve watched, I don’t recall the youtube account being mentioned during Detective Flores’s interrogation either. Is it possible the prosecution doesn’t know about it?

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 5:31 pm

      I do remember her saying something about doing a tribute to Travis, but I cant remember if it was brought up in court or if it was in the interrogation tapes.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 6:49 pm

        It was brought up in the first interrogation video that she had done a tribute to him on her MySpace page but didn’t say anything about YouTube. The only thing I know JM brought up about YouTube was with one of his witnesses who analyzed Travis’ laptop and found that at 4AM on June 4th three or four video’s had been watched. I believe they were all music videos too.

        Have you watched interrogation video #5 at the 31.58 mark? It was a game not a joke to her where she “Haha! I still beat you………….winner!” I don’t if JM knows about YouTube video regarding Travis doing his little character called Eddie Sneel. I think it Eddie Sneel, it’s Eddie something.

    • Anna
      04/01/2013 at 6:00 pm

      OMG Teresa! I’ve watched that video and did not notice the jodiannarias part. btw it says this on the site:
      “Uploaded on Jun 12, 2008
      Eddie Snell’s 30 second commercial promoting his latest entreprenuerial [sic] venture.”

      She must have written that too. I am having the sensation that precedes vomiting.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 6:52 pm

        Snell not Sneel! I’m agreeing with you Anna. I think we need to start passing the barf bags around again or some of Wurmi’s $.99 sent ties to wipe our mouths after.

      • Teresa Santos
        04/01/2013 at 8:25 pm

        thanks for the date, i could only see ”4 yrs ago”.and that confirms it; yes, it’s pretty sick. i think this is important evidence; i guess it’s in the same behavioral category as sending the flowers, etc, and i also remember a tribute on myspace being mentioned, maybe she put sth on myspace too. but had she had the youtube account for longer, even not posting anything, i suppose coincidence could be arguable. this is may 29th though, she must have had her plans sketched by then; maybe she intended to post videos of the roadtrip that would solidify her alibi, or sth. a couple of days later she is making arrangements for the gas cans. by the way, i thought she looked very thoughtful when Darryl Brewer was taking the stand, probably thinking ”why the **** did i ever leave this guy, look at the mess i got myself into!”
        i’m glad to know the juror will be replaced and there will be no mistrial!
        and in general, there should be limits to what the defense is allowed to pull out of the *** in some cases; like Casey Anthony, to whom Jodi is constantly compared: i don’t believe for a second Casey’s father abused or molested her when she was young, in fact when her father was being thrown under the bus – to put it lightly for such accusations – were the only times she sobbed like a child! that’s not because she was remembering events, it’s because she actually felt that bad they were using that lie to save her ass!
        I understand the possibility of Jodi being acquited is not on the table (right?), but if she gets life i think it will actually be worse for her – she is so vain she’d much prefer to die young as a hot convicted murderer, eternalized by her friend the camera at 32, than to grow old in jail without any chance of freedom. If she gets death and still has to wait 20 years, now that’s punishment for her!
        Speaking of punishment, there’s something else i find interesting, and i take the opportunity to ask if anyone has an opinion about it: i did some research about the mormon faith, and read about blood atonement in mormon fundamentalism, and its practise was only formally denied in the 1970’s. according to its history, it included shooting and decapitation. i wonder if Jodi knew about this and took it under consideration during events; it is possible she thought, assuming there would be no dna evidence putting her at the place, that this crime scene could be attributed to a religious revenge. and after being caught, i wonder if she thought of pursuing this ideia when she came up with the two intruders story.

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 7:13 pm

      The only thing that I know about this is that Dr Drew played a part of that skit and he and Mark Eiglarsh were raving about Travis’ comedic timing and talent. The skit was for some PPL event. I’ve never heard this brought up in court, but I could be wrong.

  48. Kathy A.
    04/01/2013 at 5:06 pm

    Hi everyone. I’ve been reading this blog for awhile but have never posted anything. I feel like it’s about the only place where I get an accurate picture of what’s going on unless I’m able to catch the trial streaming live online. I can’t handle HLN anymore because of all the darn breaks.

    I’m wondering about something because I haven’t heard this brought up very much and wondered why JM didn’t ask Dr. Quack about it, unless I missed it. Supposedly “The Fog” moved in right after Jodi shot Travis and he said he was going to kill her, according to her stupid story. Then it didn’t roll out again until she found herself covered in blood along the highway just outside of the Nevada border, but at one point in her testiphony she said she recalled screaming and the knife dropping from her hand because she heard the sound it made when it hit the tile floor. According to Dr. Quack, she was in a constant fog where the brain could not make memories so there was nothing to remember. Did the fog step out for a snack just long enough for her to drop the knife and then conveniently come back to protect her from remembering anything that could get her convicted or a death sentence? I would like to have heard the doctor’s BS explanation. Again, if there was one, I missed it.

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 5:29 pm

      I dont recall if jm asked about that or not. It sure does seem contradictory though right !

    • Laine
      04/01/2013 at 5:44 pm

      I’m pretty sure he didn’t ask because Jodi in testimony said she couldn’t recall if the memory she has was real…waste of time and effort to call her on it…she would only lie anyway! Better to concentrate on making sure the jury saw that Dr Quack was just a paid assasin, and I think JM did that perfectly.

      • LindaLou
        04/01/2013 at 6:11 pm

        Speaking of Dr. Quack, just saw on the Justice4Travis page that he has taken his web page down. Do you think it has something to do with his fantastic performance on the stand. Early retirement, maybe.

      • truejustice
        04/01/2013 at 6:59 pm

        LindaLou … one could only hope. The whole expert testimony thing chaps my bum. for 250 an hour – I am sure it is not all that difficult to find someone who will tell you what you want to hear… there should be some type system in place where the court provides 2 experts (called upon like jury duty) to evaluate the accused. The evaluations should be presented no matter what. (sure go ahead and pay them 250 an hr — as long as they are bought and paid for)

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 7:02 pm

      She said she remembered the knife on direct with Wormi I believe and it wasn’t brought up on cross. Don’t know why. Her and Dr. Quack couldn’t keep their stories straight either. Jodi said she came out of the fog in the dessert and realized her hands were covered in blood and that she remembered she had Costo water in the trunk to wash her hands off with. Dr. Quack said on the stand that when she got to the dessert she was covered in blood. He said it at least twice and every time he did, you could see Jodi getting mad because he contradicted her story. None of them can keep their story right and it’s all the defenses fault for her keeping her on the stand so long, well Wormi’s fault because he acts like he’s speaking to 5 years old or the elderly when he speaks. Aaaaaaaaand….. Ugh!

      • Kathy A.
        04/01/2013 at 7:11 pm

        Thanks, Kimmy. I was beginning to think I imagined it. I know the doc made a mistake by saying Jodi “came to” after she had gone through the “border patrol checkpoint” in Nevada. I don’t know about you, but if I had a legitimate memory lapse and found myself driving covered in blood, I think I would want to find out what happened, not immediately think I had done something wrong and start getting rid of evidence. I especially don’t think I would pay attention to the brand of bottled water I had to the point of bringing it up in court or interrogations, but then that’s Jodi. She throws in irrelevant details to, she thinks, sound more credible. Nurmi gets on my nerves; not excited about Jennifer either but I can handle her a little better than Nurmi. I cringe when he gets up to speak.

      • Schaeffer
        04/02/2013 at 3:42 am

        Kimmy, Kimmy, Kimmy — you are losing track of the stories! Remember, she SHOWERED with Travis’ body before she ever left the bedroom/bathroom. She was no more covered in blood than she had blood on her hands anywhere in the desert. The only way she had blood on her hands in the car was if she got a little bit on her when she was disposing of the evidence.

        And I don’t think she had a case of water in the trunk, either, because she had 15 gallons of gas in three cans, plus her luggage and her camera bag. She testified it was all in the trunk. Who keeps gasoline and water in the trunk of a car crossing the desert?

    • NancyB
      04/01/2013 at 7:21 pm

      Hi Kathy A! Welcome. She never said she was covered in blood – just that her hands were. It was Schlok Doc who testified that she was covered in blood. I’ll tell you that damn fog is something else, isn’t it? How ironic that the fog disappears for the dropping of the knife. Another inconsistency (there are about a million at this point) is that during her testiphony she stated that this fog lifted right before coming to the Hoover Dam. EXCEPT a juror question asked her if she was in the fog when she was making out with Ryan and she answered YES. That fog is very sneaky how it comes and goes.

      • Kathy A.
        04/01/2013 at 7:36 pm

        Thanks, Nancy! Yes, that fog is something else. There are times in my life when I sure wish a fog had stepped in to save me, but apparently Jodi and Dr. Luv are the only ones who understand it. I sure hope this whole thing with allegations of prosecutorial and juror misconduct blows over quickly. A mistrial at this stage would be terrible and would not be in the interests of justice. One thing Jodi does not need is extended time in the spotlight because she eats it up.

      • Kimmy
        04/01/2013 at 7:40 pm

        Yup Nancy that fog is a sneaky rascal. Kathy A. I was thinking like you are saying gosh if that were me I would feel like this or I could never have done anything like that. That’s because she has no emotions to reveal. After reading these posts from people who have dealt with sociopaths/psychopaths before and given there stories it means we are normal and would feel emotion and remorse. Syntara has a very good insight on this and how there mind works. It certainly has enlightened me a great deal. Lisa M I believe said it best “these people never have a rock bottom to hit.” I hope to never encounter one in my lifetime.

    • Moon
      04/01/2013 at 11:31 pm

      lol @ the fog! she claims that the fog sets in during stress, yet she vividly remembes all the details of previous abuse by bf’s and her father…where was the fog during those stressful times? also i read that her brother had told investigators that one time she had a knife held to her throat..my guess is that he is the one that was holding the knife! they had major sibling rivalry. she was brought up as a spoiled rotten brat (how many of us can say our parents would send us to another country exchange program, especially with her claims of abuse) & apparently was never taught what empathy is. the way her mother and aunt carry on in that court room makes that point clearer.

  49. truejustice
    04/01/2013 at 5:07 pm

    UPDATE: from local news (arizona) azcentral.com.

    Defense attorneys for Jodi Arias have filed a motion for mistrial or to have a juror dismissed for unspecified conduct.

    The motion comes out of a hearing on Thursday in which Arias’ lead attorney, Kirk Nurmi, alleged that prosecutor Juan Martinez may have been viewed by jurors when he was posing for photographs and signing autographs for his fans outside the Maricopa County Court House.

    Judge Sherry Stephens then ordered that all of the jurors be questioned one-by-one. Nurmi’s motion claims that one of the jurors made statements that suggested communication with other jurors.

    Jurors are admonished not to speak with each other during trial. The actual information is sealed in the record of Thursday’s hearing.

    *****************************
    Looks like everyone will be holding their breath until it is heard – most likely Monday.

    • 04/01/2013 at 6:13 pm

      Beth Kara’s just said it was a comment made by juror #5the one with colored hair in front of other jurors so now they will have to be questioned.

  50. David
    04/01/2013 at 5:17 pm

    The vile turd Nurmi filed a motion for mistrial today citing jury misconduct on April 1.

  51. Laine
    04/01/2013 at 5:32 pm
    • Laine
      04/01/2013 at 5:33 pm

      Motion for mistrial – Juror misconduct

      Posted on fb tonight on JM support page….

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

      Laine, thanks for posting that. I say the motion was filed, but did not actually see the legal doc . Thanks. Very worrisome.

      • Laine
        04/01/2013 at 5:40 pm

        The defense call for a mistrial at least once a week! They can dissmiss this juror and add an alternate, they shouln’t declare a mistrial through it….it’s tax payers money that is being wasted here. So hopefully it will just be the juror that’s dissmissed….

      • truejustice
        04/01/2013 at 5:47 pm

        I certainly hope its just that juror. Even if it had to be 2 .. they have 6 alternates dont they

    • Schaeffer
      04/02/2013 at 3:49 am

      This is the motion requesting keeping the costs of the trial under seal. It was denied on 27 March by Judge Welty. The total dollar amount can re released, but not an itemized accounting.

  52. Family of Law
    04/01/2013 at 5:44 pm

    Hello- hope you all had a nice holiday weekend! I’m popping in lat in the game, so if someone already posted, my apologies. My guess after reading this “news flash”- is that juror #5 has been singled out, due to the fact J(ack) A(ss) has noticed this juror isnt buying what she’s selling- and is looking to get rid of her…. More dirty pool!

    PHOENIX – Jodi Arias’ attorneys have filed a motion asking for a mistrial because of juror misconduct.
    In the filing, Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott said the juror misconduct was discovered in sealed proceedings that took place last Thursday.
    The attorneys are asking for a mistrial or that Juror 5 be removed from the jury because “statements Juror 5 made in front of her fellow jurors amounts to misconduct that inserted partiality in what is supposed to be an impartial body.”
    Arias’ attorney claim Juror 5 is neither fair or impartial at this point making “her removal from the jury essential” to ensure Arias’ rights.
    The motion said on March 28, a meeting was held with jurors to discuss an issue involving prosecutor Juan Martinez posing for pictures and signing autographs outside the courthouse.
    During that hearing, information came out that “Juror 5 engaged in misconduct that affected more than one juror.”
    Details about what specifically happened are not known because the information is sealed.
    Currently, there are 18 jurors sitting in on the trial. Only 12 will be picked to deliberate once closing arguments are done.
    The other six are considered alternates.

  53. Anna
    04/01/2013 at 5:49 pm

    Just fyi in case you haven’t heard, they’re seeking the DP for James Holmes. Right now the trial is set for Feb.3rd (and oh my check out his beard sometime: http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/04/01/36643/prosecutors-will-seek-death-penalty-against-james/). Good gravy, yet another psycho trial? This soon? What’s this freakin’ world coming to, man? Ack. (sorry, please excuse me….)

  54. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 5:51 pm

    NancyB :
    Judge Stephens has not ruled yet on this latest ploy by Blubber Bloat to petition for a mistrial along with claiming prosecutorial misconduct. He’s done this 2 other times during this trial. I highly doubt that the judge will affirm these. I do know that tomr morning the judge will have the producer from HLH, I forget her name, testify under oath, as Jean C did. I heard on the news that the judge completed the interviewing of all jurors on Thurs after testimony ended for the day and the jury is still intact so that is a good sign. It wouldn’t surprise me if this sleazy defense team attempted this even once more before the jury deliberates.

    With over a million dollars already spent on the defense and this close to the end, the prosecutor would have to do something really bad for Judge Stephens to call a mistrial. And we all know JM would never do anything to cause a mistrial. He wouldn’t allow the Alexander family to go through it again. They are a sleazy defense to say but thank god she has sense to keep denying the motions as they come.

  55. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 5:52 pm

    Oh, it figures Judy’s Attorney’s are and have been always been finding a way for a mistrial. I hope this one is denied and no findings.

    • Family of Law
      04/01/2013 at 6:04 pm

      Hi Tami:) I’ve noticed in many of your posts that you must have a vey vigilant “auto correct” it won’t let you spell Jodi, with an i- what did we do before auto correct?

      Yes, you’re right, it just figures that Wurmi Nurmi and the Flying Nun, will continue to try, and try!

  56. 04/01/2013 at 6:01 pm

    This is terrible news! Another ploy for the dirty defense team to inflict on Travis and his family. I will be praying that the Judge doesn’t allow a mistrial to happen. Will be watching the trial tomorrow holding my breath.

  57. Family of Law
    04/01/2013 at 6:05 pm

    Lol, where as MY auto correct let me get away with (vey) instead of (very)

  58. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 6:13 pm

    md6953 :
    Does the jury get to hear the rebuttal? thank you.

    Pretty sure that is a yes.

  59. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 6:16 pm

    I am not sure what is going on with misspellings on Judy’s name, before I post it is correct. I am using my android tablet, I could go the laptop and see what it does.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 7:56 pm

      Or if easier refer to her as JA.

  60. 04/01/2013 at 6:21 pm

    True Justice~~ I just heard that on her interrogation tape with Det. Flores. The one where the female detective left and Flores came back in.

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 6:25 pm

      Thanks Vickee 🙂

  61. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 6:22 pm

    I just heard on HLN that if juror number five has a misconduct then that one juror will be replaced, and if others have been effected, if they can set that comment as side then the trial will continue, if not then those jurors will be replaced. It would need to be pretty extreme to have a mistrial.

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 6:31 pm

      THANKS! That’s good news for the family and friends of TA . Your are right that they need to be able to move on to the next chapter in healing. And JA … UG.. I bet if she is not convicted (snowballs chance in hell) or escaped the DP she will go back to the tv cercuit to claim a few more minutes of fame. If she gets the dp – she’ll have to stay quite cause she gets a follow up trial.

  62. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 6:23 pm

    Travis really needs to be put to rest, as well as his family. Jody needs to get off her self and stop being so selfish.

  63. 04/01/2013 at 6:24 pm

    MMD~~sorry but I am thinking Juan may want to go down the rabbit hole with Syn over this one!!!! Well….. You could go too I suppose.

  64. commerce1
    04/01/2013 at 6:32 pm

    Kimmy :

    md6953 :Does the jury get to hear the rebuttal? thank you.

    Pretty sure that is a yes.

    Definitely. The Rebuttal is a very important part of the case and the jury will be front and center for that. They will probably be very attentive because Juan will make it VERY engaging and interesting. Plus, things will FINALLY be back on track. This jury knows she’s guilty and has known it for a very long time. I believe they are frustrated and insulted by having to go through the motions of listening to this expert witness BS.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 7:15 pm

      That wasn’t sitting through the motions with the two experts that was sitting through a really bad three ring circus with Wormi as Master of ceremonies and Gidget sitting on top of the elephant with her tiara on, I’d be highly insulted too if I were a juror.

  65. LindaLou
    04/01/2013 at 6:33 pm

    I know it’s just another ploy by the defense but seems to me this is just more waste of $ for the taxpayers. Jeepers, it was just JM having his picture taken and signing a woman’s cane. How many times have we seen on our local tv channels, lawyers coming out of courtrooms and answer REPORTER’S questions. Can someone explain what possible harm could have been done to JA?

    • truejustice
      04/01/2013 at 6:39 pm

      I agree the pic./sign should be a non-issue. The legal issue is that the juror may be swayed by seeing it. For example: The juror may see that people prefer jm and thus people are supporting the prosc, and thus may be persuaded to take the same stance . Peer pressure.

      • LindaLou
        04/01/2013 at 7:11 pm

        Thx True for clearing that up – makes sense now.

  66. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 6:36 pm

    If I was a part of a jury I would not pay attention if I had heard anything from the out side, but pay close attention only what I hear in court and not judge, and looking at the situation objectively as well as ask questions.

  67. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 7:09 pm

    truejustice :
    I certainly hope its just that juror. Even if it had to be 2 .. they have 6 alternates dont they

    Yes there are 18 and don’t worry. Like I said before with the defense spending over a million of the tax payers money the judge will deny it again and send that juror home. There are enough alternates to cover. The defense is just upset they are not getting the attention Juan is and Jodi has turned them into narcissistic idiot’s like her.

  68. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 7:38 pm

    It sounds to me court will resume tomorrow and I hope no more delays, the Jury questions we very good. In my opinion she will be found guilty and hope premeditated, because it was all the evidence as well as facts. I am going on what is true.

  69. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 7:54 pm

    In my opinion you always need to keep an close eye on the defense team, they could be looking for anything to cause a mistrial or to slow down this case.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 8:03 pm

      They have been from the get go Tami, If I’m not mistaken this is their third attempt at a mistrial but keep getting denied. Nurmi’s direct alone slowed it down by a month because it takes him 10mts. to ask a question and JA rambles on for 20 mts with her answers. Plus JA keeps getting made up migraines causing court to be cancelled. This a very sneaky defense.

      • Chrissie A
        04/01/2013 at 8:53 pm

        Hey Kimmy, Popping in real quick as I checked the Twit and saw the mistrial motion – Ariarse wants her kicked off because she knows juror 5 (our tricolor juror) has sussed her out, plus she is cute,
        In other words yet another threat to her warped mind!
        Here’s a quick update to our fantasy jury:

        Back to visitors ~giggle~

  70. NancyB
    04/01/2013 at 8:22 pm

    This sideshow will delay the testiphony resuming with ALV for a good few hrs. The judge hasn’t even ruled yet on the previous accusations of Juan’s so called misconduct or that request for a mistrial and here they come with more accusations of juror #5 misconduct & calling again for mistrial.

    I’ll tell ya, the defense were very busy on Easter Sunday arranging for more crapola to delay. They probably could tell from reviewing the juror statements from last Thursday when the judge interviewed them that Tri Color has no use for JA’s bull shit and lies. They now must know that she is a prosecution juror and that’s why they want her off. This is just my guess. It will be interesting to see what they pull out of their bag of trickery tomr.

  71. NancyB
    04/01/2013 at 8:49 pm

    You know I wonder if Darryl’s gas cans were found in the rental car that the police found all packed and ready to go on the day they arrested her. She claimed in the interrogation video that she was on her way to see him and return books and kitchen stuff. She didn’t mention the gas cans in the interrogation. When she was testifying a juror question asked her where those 2 borrowed gas cans were and her answer was that she “intended to return them but didn’t have the chance before she was arrested” and that they are at her grandparents house.

    • ter987
      04/01/2013 at 9:12 pm

      JA said in video #13 at 6:54 that the books in the rental car were Matts and she was going to his home to return them and the knives and some photos were Darryls from when she lived with him and she was going to return them to him…I think she was going to get rid of them both

      • NancyB
        04/01/2013 at 9:25 pm

        Thanks ter987 for the correction!

  72. Trial watcher
    04/01/2013 at 8:52 pm

    the story of juror #5 is weird because I know I heard awhile ago that tri-color was a concern because she was the one thought to be sympathetic towards Arias. I would think that every juror would be under scrutiny and maybe # 5 was taking all those notes for a future book deal! How big of a shock would it be if any of these jurors write a book after the trial is over?
    NOT MUCH!! it seems to be a pattern with the defense, prosecution and anyone else who can get in on it. Let’s wait and see when it’s all over and done just how ,many people involved try to get THEIR book published. How many Non-Fiction/Fact books can be written on one crime? ????????????

    • 04/01/2013 at 10:25 pm

      TW – is it still just a motion or has a ruling been made?

      • Chrissie A
        04/01/2013 at 10:50 pm

        Still a motion

      • 04/01/2013 at 11:15 pm

        phew. Thought it had been ruled on favourably for a second

  73. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/01/2013 at 9:30 pm

    I personally would not put anything past the defense, yes they appear to be very sneaky, and miss beauty queen cannot be trusted. I would think that Judge Stevens would speak speak with the defense about their behavior. We send close to trial ending. I would think their would be a limit of money being spent. I sure hope every thing turns out fine tomorrow. My question is would it be considered false statements, if it has been cleared.

  74. WhereIsSHE
    04/01/2013 at 9:31 pm

    FYI- I was responding to “Tammi” (when I remarked about the allegations vs. JM with regard to posing for photos, etc).

    • 04/02/2013 at 6:28 am

      WiS, yes I got that and understand where you were coming from. I do agree it is crucial there is no opportunity handed to the defense to call into question anything that could taint the trial. While I am fascinated in this whole trial, being from Australia and a paralegal, I find it truly amazing that the trial is available on live tv which is why there is so much media and, because of that, it follows there is a huge public following. I have previously posted that I think the defense attorneys are forced to follow JA’s instructions which, albeit fraudulent, is what they must follow. Notwithstanding, it is difficult to watch but if not Nurmi and Willmott it would be some other unfortunate Public Defenders. Clearly Nurmi has wanted to withdraw but has not been given leave by the Court to do so. That in itself shows me that he does not have faith in the defense. I truly hope this trial comes to a end with a just result so that the Alexander Family can start to put this behind them. Sadly the reality is It will never be over for them while JA is in prison making appeals, seeking clemency or parole. Justice for Travis is the first step.

  75. Wendy
    04/01/2013 at 9:53 pm

    I just need to vent a little. I can hardly stomach listening to the defense at all. Wurmis voice gets on my last nerve and I don’t care for “ms thang” either. I know trials take a while but I will be glad when the verdict is in.

  76. Road to 16
    04/01/2013 at 10:08 pm

    Just wanted to thank you, thank you, for all your comments and great analogies. I’ve been reading all the comments on the HuffPost site and it’s childs’ play, but now I have met the masters here! Y’all are great sleuthers and full of fantastic humor. It’s wonderful to see that you can actually use sentence enhancers here where as on the HuffPost, you would get flagged and deleted for saying “fart”. I love all your comments, ideas & opinions on this horrific brutal murder & can’t wait to see justice for Travis & his family. I hope you will allow me to participate once in a while. I would be honored.

    • LindaLou
      04/02/2013 at 8:06 am

      Welcome Road to 16. Glad to have ya.

  77. Commerce1
    04/01/2013 at 10:14 pm

    This business about an “impartial jury” and attacking Juror #5 because she may have formed an opinion about JackAss’ guilt is ridiculous. I believe the intent of our legal system is to have people serve as jurors who are able to be impartial in order to hear and consider all of the evidence. To me, that means they should be impartial at the OUTSET of the trial. However, after hearing 3 months of testimony, it is completely reasonable for jurors to have formed opinions based upon the evidence they have heard; obviously reserving their final judgment for deliberations. There is no way anyone with an IQ above 75 and a solid bullshit meter could sit in that court room for 3 months straight and not have formed a reasonable opinion about innocence or guilt.

    • 04/01/2013 at 11:31 pm

      zegactly… who hasn’t started forming an opinion by this stage? pppuuuuhhhhlease Doesn’t mean not still open minded… just a case of ain’t looking good or bad for xxxxx reasons.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 12:03 am

      Very well said. Absolutley!

  78. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 10:16 pm

    Teresa Santos :
    thanks for the date, i could only see ”4 yrs ago”.and that confirms it; yes, it’s pretty sick. i think this is important evidence; i guess it’s in the same behavioral category as sending the flowers, etc, and i also remember a tribute on myspace being mentioned, maybe she put sth on myspace too. but had she had the youtube account for longer, even not posting anything, i suppose coincidence could be arguable. this is may 29th though, she must have had her plans sketched by then; maybe she intended to post videos of the roadtrip that would solidify her alibi, or sth. a couple of days later she is making arrangements for the gas cans. by the way, i thought she looked very thoughtful when Darryl Brewer was taking the stand, probably thinking ”why the **** did i ever leave this guy, look at the mess i got myself into!”
    i’m glad to know the juror will be replaced and there will be no mistrial!
    and in general, there should be limits to what the defense is allowed to pull out of the *** in some cases; like Casey Anthony, to whom Jodi is constantly compared: i don’t believe for a second Casey’s father abused or molested her when she was young, in fact when her father was being thrown under the bus – to put it lightly for such accusations – were the only times she sobbed like a child! that’s not because she was remembering events, it’s because she actually felt that bad they were using that lie to save her ass!
    I understand the possibility of Jodi being acquited is not on the table (right?), but if she gets life i think it will actually be worse for her – she is so vain she’d much prefer to die young as a hot convicted murderer, eternalized by her friend the camera at 32, than to grow old in jail without any chance of freedom. If she gets death and still has to wait 20 years, now that’s punishment for her!
    Speaking of punishment, there’s something else i find interesting, and i take the opportunity to ask if anyone has an opinion about it: i did some research about the mormon faith, and read about blood atonement in mormon fundamentalism, and its practise was only formally denied in the 1970′s. according to its history, it included shooting and decapitation. i wonder if Jodi knew about this and took it under consideration during events; it is possible she thought, assuming there would be no dna evidence putting her at the place, that this crime scene could be attributed to a religious revenge. and after being caught, i wonder if she thought of pursuing this ideia when she came up with the two intruders story.

    Teresa all I can say is there have been some LDS members who have posted on this site a while back. Considering how long this trial has gone on and how many threads there have been it was discussed somewhere down the line about the blood atonement, and I think it was concluded that wasn’t the case. I don’t have the time to go back and look as it takes everything in me to keep up with the daily posts without getting behind. This site has grown exponentially and more so in just the last 2 months. Anybody out there know of the thread and post I am talking about? Maybe our wonderful host donchaise?

  79. 04/01/2013 at 10:22 pm

    March 14 I think it is…… bottom of page lots of analysis…. I run through it, all as per jad’s request. Has tag numbers and dates for point of reference to a number of the blood atonement posts.

    • Schaeffer
      04/01/2013 at 11:05 pm

      Blood atonement was first put forth by some man whom Jodi has bewitched from jail, and now serves as her mouthpiece to the media. To bolster the ninja story — which no one believes — Jodi tried to claim Travis was murdered by a secret sect of Mormons charged with sacrificing/murdering those who have sinned against the church. There are some who swear it once existed, and others who swear it still exists, primarily former Mormons who have denounced the Church. I have absolutely no expertise in the LDS Church, but I can state unequivocally that Travis was NOT murdered in some bizarre church ritual.

      • 04/01/2013 at 11:16 pm

        I was thinking the neck slash c ould have been the idea she got from it. But in view of this movie synopsis raised yesterday… well maybe not!

  80. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 10:34 pm

    Chrissie A :
    Hey Kimmy, Popping in real quick as I checked the Twit and saw the mistrial motion – Ariarse wants her kicked off because she knows juror 5 (our tricolor juror) has sussed her out, plus she is cute,
    In other words yet another threat to her warped mind!
    Here’s a quick update to our fantasy jury:
    http://westlondondesigns.co.uk/grafx/Jurors-Updated.jpg
    Back to visitors ~giggle~

    Chrissie hey girl!. Whoa a lot went down today. Syn gave Robert the one two punch and knocked him out cold with post #105. I think he is still out cos I asked if he was up and notta response. You gotta pop back in and read that post. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

    Yup another motion for mistrial ****picking my teeth here and spitting***** What is this round four DING! Missed you today girl and we have a lot of new peeps so if you get behind too much gonna take a while to catch up, Hope to see you tomorrow as well as MMD.

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 10:53 pm

      Just viewed the link and yeah she is cute and JA knows it because she is looking like the librarian AND not liking it now. I want to know who got the liberty to pick out JA’s wardrobe from Goodwill? Nothing wrong with Goodwill because I donate to them all the time and it is a great cause, but I’m thinking Sheba is wanting to come out and say look at me look at me as it’s getting close to the end of trial. I think Syn said earlier the horns will appear, the tail will appear and the trident. Wurmi and Gidget might want to take her coloring crowns away from her on the day of the verdict. And whoever is holding the Taser gun..uhh please be prepared.

      • Schaeffer
        04/02/2013 at 5:40 am

        Kimmy, what are you referring to here? Time wise, this post has been “out of order” for about 6 hours.

      • Schaeffer
        04/02/2013 at 6:58 am

        **test**

  81. Schaeffer
    04/01/2013 at 10:49 pm

    Kimmy — WOBO is an abbreviation. I christened Jodi “The Whore of Babble – On. . . & On & On” and then Syntara abbreviated it as WOBO or The WOBO. Feel free to use.

    See what you miss out on when you leave us to go have a life?

    • Kimmy
      04/01/2013 at 11:08 pm

      WHAT I never have left but you can’t help when my hard drive crashed a week ago. I felt like I was missing my right and No I do not own a smart phone thank you very much! But I like the terminology. Good one!

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 12:03 am

      Sorry Schaeffer I attributed that remarkable line to Syn once before. As I said to her, you should copyright it! Thanks because I did feel free to use it many times in my post and will from now on! 🙂

  82. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 11:13 pm

    Ugh I need to go bed will happen here soon. can’t help when your hard drive crashes and felt like I was missing an arm. Hanging my head. {{sigh}} I don’t know how Syn goes for so long. I’m dubbing her EGB (Ener Gizer Bunny that just keeps going and going and going)

  83. Gigi
    04/01/2013 at 11:18 pm

    Just lately I’ve been thinking they probably didn’t really have sex on that last day of his life and that she’s taken us (well me anyway) for a ride with that story. I reckon she turned up when he was sleeping and took a few pix straightaway (those where he looks like he just woke up and is waving her away), she probably self-timed the silly ones of her snatch and her with plaits looking creepy, maybe she tried to get him to have sex ‘one last time’ but maybe he realised the phone sex episode had been a mistake and maybe he just plain refused to do anything. I can imagine this enraging her as the final rejection.
    I think the later shower photos display how she worked up the courage to kill him, after he’d kicked her out (and probably tend to agree he thought she’d gone, or that she had the gun on him at that point). Definitely some photos seem like he doesn’t realise she took them (no flash, strange angles) and it’s likely she was arguing with him at that point, from the expressions of weariness on his face.
    What started me thinking they hadn’t actually had sex that day, rather that she wants everyone to think that, when she mentioned once in passing that there’d also been a sex video (but deleted). I thought, “hmm, why she trying so hard to convince us they had sex? Because it’s a total lie maybe??”
    The more we’ve ‘got to know’ Travis, the more likely it seems he had really made up his mind at that point not to continue it in any way shape or form and was probably gentle but firm.
    I do think she surprised him there and was unwelcome, from one of her police interviews where she describes how she called him en route and she shows how he goes ‘o-kay…’ which to me sounds more like what you say when you’re not sure you like the sound of what’s coming….but which she narcissistically interprets as him being really excited she’s coming. I mean, talk about alternate reality….
    BTW if there is a mistrial, wake me at day 39 again please, folks….

  84. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/01/2013 at 11:25 pm

    We’ve all wondered where the knife may have come from, what type it might be, and it had to be really sharp!! Here’s an idea……found at Wild About Trial….

    Holly Garland JD LLM ‏@garlandlegal 9m
    @stark3923 @HollyBHelms #JodiArias BUT it COULD be knife found in kitchen of RESTAURANT

    AND WHO WORKED IN A RESTAURANT……….hmmmm??? Ever seen how sharp restaurant knives are?!!

    • 04/01/2013 at 11:36 pm

      hmmmm thing that make you go hmmmm… but …… the ductape looks like a knife and not a restaurant knife. I so want to be able to pick that up to see if it’s just happenstance it fell like that or it’s actually had something wrapped in it.

  85. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 11:26 pm

    WhereIsSHE :
    It pains me to respond to you–whoever your are– because I have read your posts and have felt my professional “hackles” raise on end…
    but for the sake of those here whom I have interacted with and respect, I will address this topic, purely from a LEGAL standpoint.
    There actually do exist RULES of PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT which COULD come into play here.
    Every state has their own specific Rules, but they are typically similar to just about every other state’s Rules of Professional Conduct for attorneys.
    The Rule of Professional Conduct in AZ which COULD come into play here (probably not at this level, but.. if there is an appeal… ??? I have not done legal research for AZ on the appellate level)..
    but in any event, here is the rule (vague and therefore sort of all-encompassing):
    Check out SUBSECTION (e) below.
    This is what concerns me, as a practicing attorney since 1992.
    NOTE: I do not believe the trial court, i.e. the Judge on the bench, will find that JM engaged in professional misconduct here. Not at all.
    Nor do I believe that this is a decent argument on appeal for this defendant. Hardly.
    HOWEVER.
    Why even engage in ANY conduct that possibly might open the door to that kind of ruling at trial or ruling on appeal??????
    I know you all worship this guy–and I get it (from the standpoint of wanting a warrior for Travis and the family), …
    HOWEVER..
    There is no reason for a prosecutor to be posing for photos and/or signing autographs DURING TRIAL.
    It is an act that could jeapordize the verdict (but only if that verdict is GUILTY).
    So.. if the VERDICT of GUILT for this defendant is what you care about MOST.. then… just wait until AFTER the verdict to pose/sign.
    It’s just that simple, Folks.
    HE is the one who should know better, and I am not blaming those who seek to meet him/pose with him/get his autograph.
    Just… please, everyone, WAIT until after the VERDICT to do anything that could have an unintended consequence.
    I would hate to have to see Travis’ family members go through this again for ANY reason, but least of all because of something that could cast shades of dishonor on the prosecutor.
    ER 8.4. Misconduct
    It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:
    (a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;
    (b) commit a criminal act that reflects adversely on the lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects;
    (c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;
    (d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;
    (e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official or to achieve results by means that violate the Rules of Professional Conduct or other law; or

    Donchaise did you see this? ” It pains me to response to you whoever you are?” I don’t claim to be an expert at all nor did I try. Just gave an opinion is all I’ve ever done because I thought that was allowed at this site. Sorry WhereSheIs got mad. Was not and would not try to offend any of your visitors. Wow shocked.

    • Family of Law
      04/02/2013 at 12:18 am

      Kimmy, I think Where Is She, whom I respect, because she has always brought us terrific legal insights of the law, and often brings this blog back to its core, a search for justice. I believe we are ALL here desiring justice for Travis, and for those who knew and love him).

      It’s easy to allow our frustrations re: this trial get the better of us- and I do believe humor, and inappropriate comments off great relief at times. (I know I’ve had a good knee slap laugh from so many here!)

      WisS, just gave me a needed reminder- to respect the legal system of our nation, and the officers of the court. I’m the proud daughter of a former prosecutor/ former Circuit Court (criminal division) judge, proud sister of 4 attorneys, and soon to be proud Mom of an attorney. I for one, will be more careful in my posts (although, I still personally find Nurmi and Willmot very offensive, and I still really admire JM).

      Hugs to you Kimmy, and thank you to WisS

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 12:47 am

      WhereIsShe should definitely have been a little nicer. You have a right to your opinion Kimmy. Nothing any of us say on this post matters anyway. This case is in the hands of the prosecution, defense, judge and attorneys, and only the evidence presented in court matters, so we can all speculate about this or that until the cows come home. We have absolutely no control over the outcome of this trial.

      • Lisa M
        04/02/2013 at 12:47 am

        And jury too of course!

  86. Anna
    04/01/2013 at 11:31 pm

    I’ve been doing my best to listen closely to the video of Travis describing his near-death experience at the hands of a robber. Said robber held a gun to his temple in a shop Travis frequented so often he didn’t take his wallet, just the correct amount of money. I think this is important as it goes toward Travis’ potential state-of-mind during his subsequent, atrocious murder. What it tells us in total, I’m not going to venture an opinion right now, but these are Travis’ words and I think we owe it to him to listen closely and try to ignore that couldn’t-give-two-hoots, demon letch taking over his lap area. It is so ironic that he went through this near-death experience shortly before the psycho killer took his life. The terrifying event is obviously still so fresh in his mind (i.e. no fog) and he has imo reflected upon this probably life-changing event numerous times. It really does feel like we were meant to hear this for some reason. And anyway, I’d much rather listen to him right now than her. I know you’re all been watching those videos of the witch so maybe you’d like to go listen to Travis for a while to cleanse your brain. 🙂
    I have listed the minutes before each part as best as possible and the comments in brackets are mine (I know that’s obvious but that’s where I DO voice my FWIW opinions.). I have listened and re-listened to this in order to make my transcriptions, but I do not claim these to be his exact actual words. Pretty sure it’s close though. Some parts I just couldn’t get or didn’t need to quote so I used “….….” to indicate a skip forward. I used this video for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaEzgX5t5TA (Also, just a btw, I know this is difficult to read sometimes because of all the punctuation I had to use, but did the best I could to try & recreate the way Travis told his story.)
    [0:12] “And there he is [referring to the robber with the gun], ‘get the ef on the ground’ and I’m like oh snap, ya know, it’s over.” [So he’s had a near-death experience already, I know, we’ve established that, but I mean I would venture to say that most people haven’t.]
    [0:40] “…and so he says you got 5 seconds, anyway it was a big, ah [pause] fiasco” [So he’s even had someone threaten to give him but 5 seconds to live. Wow.]
    [1:51] [I’m noting this time because it’s when Travis mentions he’ll give the robber $1000 for his stolen cell phone (I mean that’s a lot of $), the poisonous thing who’s so damn bored there, all of sudden has to run her fingers through her hair, like the mere mention of that much money stirred the beast to get even more comfy or something….what is that?…and order up more barf bags before you watch this part…guess it could be just me but I really think not.]
    [2:26] Travis references a book by Dale Carnegie called “How to Stop Worrying and Start Living.” He quotes the part where Dale says, “This is death, this is death.” “He’s just waitin’ for one hit to the submarine to kill him. Like that’s what I was sayin’……I didn’t wanna say that, and you say don’t visualize this and that, well [something like ‘have to be able to control those things] I’m not at that level…” [Here’s more of the excerpt from that part of the book:
    “For fifteen hours, that Japanese mine layer kept dropping depth charges.” “We were ordered ‘to secure’-to lie quietly in our bunks and remain calm. I was so terrified I could hardly breathe. ‘This is death,’ I kept saying to myself over and over. ‘This is death!…This is death!”
    First off, tangent, can you even imagine? I’ve been on a sub. Uh-uh, no. Travis thought very deeply about his terrifying moment. He finds a literary reference to describe how he felt. He must have gone over and over about it in his head after he survived imho. ]
    [2:59] “I’m seein’ myself facedown, bloody. In a pool of blood and I’m like this is death, this is death.” [Can you even believe he says this? Did the whore of babble-on who’s resting so near one of her favorite places (sorry) hear that? I wonder how many times the parasite had to pause her life to listen to this very compelling, and passionately told story. Who could even lay down for that ever?]
    [3:15] “They say that your life flashes before your eyes, well, I can’t say that, but it’s amazing how many thoughts that you can distribute, I mean get out of your mind, in a few seconds. I thought hundreds and hundreds of different things in like just a few seconds. [I’m sorry to share my tears here when I say, Travis Was Thinking when that creature was stabbing him.]
    [3:38] “I can tell you a hundred different lessons I learned from that.”
    [3:42] “To think, this is how you die.” [He’s had that thought and that feeling. I mean, I never have]
    [around 3:47-3:57 I would love to know what he says here but I can’t tell exactly – wondering if he’s saying something about the robber’s anger]
    [3:59] “And ah, you know to think, and then you start rating the odds…..he may not kill me, he may. And you’re like will I be one of those tough people that’s like ‘pull the trigger’ ya know, whatever. Or you gonna be one of those people who talks the talk like they’re tough [and this is said in a wimpy voice] ‘please don’t shoot me’, ya know like ’I got a wife and 8 kids’ you know whatever, ya know, just to see how you’d react. You learn a lot.” [This breaks my heart to pieces. I don’t know exactly how to read it but I don’t think Travis was a wimp who talked like that to the fatal-attraction leech he was trying to get out of his life . I’m sorry, but I can see him telling her to ef off and just effin’ get it done, bitch, at some point….look at that crime scene….seconds become like hours. Please forgive me here. I am so, so sorry to bring up such horror. I’m writing through tears and I really hope this isn’t too much to bear for anyone. But why was this video left for us to see & hear? I don’t believe in coincidences myself.]
    [4:27] “What they did, it shut me up…….I didn’t have much to say…” [Would that be different when he was fighting for his life in his own bathroom, especially considering his recently discovered, heightened awareness in a life or death situation? Not to mention his new found distrust of wobo. I think very much so because of the circumstance. He’s shutting up here in effort to save his own life.]
    [4:37] “And there’s this woman that was seeing all this, uh, like 10 feet away, and she started like crying uncontrollably. So I got a gun against my temple, he keeps like doin’ this with the gun [Travis uses his finger to illustrate where the gun was, and the wobo starts her procedure for sitting upright at this point.]…”
    [5:00] “…all he needs to do is squeeze, ya know? [referring the gunman] So I’m like this woman is going to get me killed. And I’m like looking at her with like, all the despair I can muster up in my retinas, you know what I mean? [someone in the group repeats that last part and says he needs to write that down.] “Yeah, write that down.” [Did he have time to look at the beast with ‘despair’? I know something is not right in that last photo of his face when he’s sitting down. His eyes are saying something. Looks like ‘I hate you, get out of here’ to me. Also, why the ef did I get into this position. S**t.]
    [5:24] “It was, it was an intense experience so, but the good news is they didn’t kill me.” [that’s the last thing I can hear him saying on this video. It ends on a happy note.]
    On a another happy note, I can say that I would happily sit down and have a nice long converse with this young man any day of the week. I love the sound of his voice, his inflections, his mannerisms, his humor (as always), and the way he seems to be such a deep thinking man who so wants to captivate an audience…like a sell-out audience as a comedic headliner at a big venue. I’ve said it many times, but I’m sayin’ again, I think that was his God-given talent. I feel privileged to know even as little as I do about Mr. Alexander. I just cannot find a bad vibe in him. [As a side note – I started working on this around 3 weeks ago. Accidentally deleted it. Cried. Got back up and started all over. Believe if it happened for a reason, I was meant to listen more closely and learn more about this trial in the process. I hope my transcriptions aren’t too far off, but I really don’t think so or there’s no way I’m posting this, but sorry if someone finds I was way off base anywhere (I don’t have any sound-enhancing abilities….Chrissie?).]

    Justice For Travis!

    • 04/01/2013 at 11:40 pm

      Anna, do you have a link to that please?

      • 04/01/2013 at 11:56 pm

        scratch that just got to the link in the article. My apologies.

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:02 am

      Anna!!! That’s brilliant!!!

  87. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 11:33 pm

    Okay I don’t know what a Troll sounds like but one just got in on #6 and #7 and I’m scared! Not blogging any more and going to bed. WhereIsShe snuck in!

  88. Anniefreeze
    04/01/2013 at 11:34 pm

    Hi everyone, perhaps this was mentioned here..not sure. Juror 5 known as ‘tri hair’, alledgely contributes a majority of the juror questions according to @trialwatcher on twitter. she was the juror who asked “can someone who gets a bad haircut get amnesia?(or something like that)”. It is apparent to the gallery that “tri” is not buying Jodi’s BS. Perhaps Wormi has given jodi (and the evil twins) a job, to spy and identify jurors who have made up their minds. It has been noted here on CFJ that Jodi has been staring at the jury intently lately. I pray judge S can keep turning down the mistrials. This is at least the 3rd mistrial, right?

    • 04/01/2013 at 11:48 pm

      rofl!!! I knew it. Well not that it was tri colour, but that they’d be after that juror!

      I LOVE that juror noooo noooo that juror can’t go! I think it’s the same one that asked if it was possible Travis put the camera moved the camera (to the washing machine) and Jodi said “yes it’s possible” NOT possible for sooooo many reasons!!

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 12:43 am

      I’m praying too for the sake of his family and justice that this wormy slimy defense doesn’t succeed in any of their many desperate pleas to derail this trial.

  89. Anniefreeze
    04/01/2013 at 11:40 pm

    Kimmy :
    Okay I don’t know what a Troll sounds like but one just got in on #6 and #7 and I’m scared! Not blogging any more and going to bed. WhereIsShe snuck in!

    Kimmy. What troll. Are you serious or doing inside joking? :-).

  90. Kimmy
    04/01/2013 at 11:41 pm

    Hello does anyone realize a troll got in! Hello read post #6 and #7! Donchaise where are you? How can we get her off of here? Any body out there? Please respond. WhereIsShe is a troll!

    • Family of Law
      04/02/2013 at 12:33 am

      Kimmy, WhereIsShe is NOT a troll, she is an attorney, who needed to get a few legal points of fact off her chest. I do not believe she meant harm or insult. (WIsS refers to Wilmott, as Willmoot, and has NOT once been a defender of JA). Go through all of her posts, you’ll see, she IS one of us- she is simply protecting and guarding the law.

    • Anniefreeze
      04/02/2013 at 1:02 am

      Kimmy, Whereisshe is a regular commenter on here. I think she is a lawyer. Sorry I can’t be more help.

  91. 04/01/2013 at 11:50 pm

    but but… 6 & 7 are WhereIsShe posts??? I’m confused. WhereIsShe is our legal advisor not a troll. Kimmy, what you clucking about girl?

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 12:18 am

      Is this an April Fool’s joke?

      • 04/02/2013 at 12:28 am

        It’s the second of April here…. so not from my side 😀

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 12:38 am

      I don’t think WhereIsShe is a troll, she was just giving some tough love. I agree with her on some of her points, but I’ve never been a big Juan worshipers. I’ve praised him and I’ve also criticized him at times. She takes offense with Juan’s posing with people because it could provide grounds for a mistrial. And if so, then I agree he should know better. I’ve also suggested maybe he shouldn’t have gone for the death penalty because it’s more risky, it allows more testiphony in, and gives the defense way too much leeway. But I don’t know enough about what went into that decision (and I’m not saying the crime isn’t DP worthy) so I can’t really make an educated statement about that. In any case, my interpretation of her remarks in comments 6 and 7 are that she (he?) is so passionate about Travis and his family getting justice that she doesn’t want anyone, including JM, to give the defense any reason to get one. So lets all just hope that the defense’s newest attempt to get a mistrial doesn’t work! God knows they will do anything and everything to derail this trial– and maybe that’s the way the law works, but it’s not fair to the victim or his family, and that’s what I mean about maybe JM should have reconsidered the death penalty. Don’t give this girl and her defense any leeway to to drag Travis’ family through litigation for another year or longer if there ever is a mistrial (which I fervently hope will not happen). There should be an equivalent of a mistrial for the defense, with all the shenanigans they’ve pulled!

      • Anniefreeze
        04/02/2013 at 1:08 am

        Lisa m, What about the superman bed picture with MMD. I giggle every time i think about that pic. Does she want this humor to stop at CFJ?

  92. Douglme
    04/02/2013 at 12:03 am

    Syntara :
    Robert…… Robert…. ROOOOBBBBEERT Read and jump baby!!
    (posted in full because Schaeffer has troible accessing twitter urls )
    Thanks to Gateway much appreciated.
    #JodiArias Zhang Ziyi MOVIE REFERENCES: Jodi lists House of Flying Daggers, Memoirs of a Geisha movie, and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon —- all starring the same actress, Zhang Ziyi — I think Jodi believes she resembles this actress. Again, all three movies are on JODI list of favorites on her myspace. The actress, Zhang Ziyi = does Jodi stalk her?
    If you watch: House of Flying Daggers movie you will be dumbfounded by the parallels — I really do believe that movie affected Jodi profoundly, and that she either consciously or subconsciously incorporated many many scenes, images, and thoughts from the movie into her life.
    Just a small taste from the movie; bear in mind that these are English subtitles, imperfectly translated from Mandarin:
    K= Killer(Jilted lover)
    V= Victim
    L= Victim’s chosen lover
    K: (anguished and furious) I sacrificed three years for you! How can you love him after just three days?
    L: When can we meet again?
    V: It can’t happen. We’re from different worlds. If we meet again, one of us is going to die.

    (Victim has been stabbed in the heart by Killer for deciding to depart to accompany her chosen Lover on a journey of escape; she is dying.)
    K: (angry, tears) You are the love of my life! I can’t force you to love me. But you cannot go with him! It will cost you your life. You see? You made me destroy you.
    V: (dying, stabbed through the heart) I knew that you would do this.
    K: (losing it) You knew, and you will go anyway?? (freaks out, raging; angry with Victim for ‘making’ him do this) WHY?? WHY??
    (Victim falls. Killer screams in anguish.)

    The movie also includes:
    The lover getting turned on after dressing the female in boy’s clothes.
    A woman expertly throwing lethal knives, causing a stab in the throat, and causing another person’s throat to be slit.
    The same woman, sweet and childlike, being arrested, interrogated by the police (martial) and threatened with torture… but she remains demure and doesn’t give up her secrets.
    A dance scene (subliminal sex scene) in what amounts to a brothel, where the man is very drowsy, almost falling asleep at times. He is a guy who is discussed as a colossal “flirt.” In the scene, his arousal seems to include sadistic or degrading elements toward the woman. She is child-like and yet she is a stunning virtuoso at dancing (subliminal sex). She is not what she seems. She pretends to be blind. She pretends to be naive. She has secret motives.
    The scene plays out similar to Jodi’s ‘phone sex recording,’ even to the point of the sleepy man and the stealthy seductive woman singing together; him sounding sleepy, silly and off-key; her doing her best in her little girl voice.
    ^And notably, in this scene, the man uses his sword to cut the rope-braid closures on her clothing, and rather violently removes her outer garment.
    He also attacks her by “lunging at her like a linebacker,” grabbing her, spinning her around, throwing her face down and getting on top of her so she can’t get up… like JA’s lying testimony about TA.

    She does the backward yoga stretch, too. All the way, head upside down, just like Jodi did in the interrogation room.

    The girl is ordered by a female superior that she must kill the man she loves. “I have a task for you… He is no longer of use to us. You will take him out, kill him. He’s a danger to our plan. His death is necessary to guard against future trouble.”

    When the girl is arrested, the police search her room and find a set of deadly knives. It is highly incriminating evidence. This is what leads to her interrogation. She is cool and courageous, and keeps up her cover with them.

    That is too spooky! She is sick and evil!

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:30 am

      Not having seen the movie I’m curious as to if they are ninja style and how they carry their knives… just might be telling.

  93. Douglme
    04/02/2013 at 12:05 am

    Wendy :
    I didn’t start keeping up with the trial until part way through JAs testimony. Did Mimi hall testify?

    You can watch the first days of trial on YouTube they are all there!

  94. Commerce1
    04/02/2013 at 12:24 am

    Kimmy :Hello does anyone realize a troll got in! Hello read post #6 and #7! Donchaise where are you? How can we get her off of here? Any body out there? Please respond. WhereIsShe is a troll!

    WhereIsShe is NOT a troll. This poster is a lawyer with a valid perspective regarding the way attorneys should be behaving in this case. I don’t see any issue with what WhereIsShe posted.

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:37 am

      I do think JM has integrity and was just caught off guard. He is human and he did refuse to be interviewed.

      From a purely human perspective I don’t think he did a thing wrong. Who knows it may have even been a set up.

      Either way I’m sure the defense is just snarky because JM is so good. He would be the last person to do anything deliberate to jeopardise this case. But as WhereIsShe points out, it does give them their first sniff of a legitimate try for mistrial. The defense in this case smells rotten no matter how they try to spin it.

      • Lisa M
        04/02/2013 at 12:40 am

        The defense is rotten it’s true, I just hope juror #5’s conduct didn’t rise to anything major!

      • Anna
        04/02/2013 at 12:48 am

        The defense team in their sleepy, just-please-get-me-to-the-end-of-this-trial mode, was probably told about this by someone else and pounced all over it. It could have been a set up by someone else I guess, and I do love a conspiracy theory more than most, but I think it probably just happened at the spur of the moment. That being said, I do wish our Juaninator wouldn’t have been put into this position. I hope he’s not writhing at the moment but since MMD isn’t here we don’t know. 😦

  95. Commerce1
    04/02/2013 at 12:25 am

    Kimmy :Hello does anyone realize a troll got in! Hello read post #6 and #7! Donchaise where are you? How can we get her off of here? Any body out there? Please respond. WhereIsShe is a troll!

    No. WhereIsShe is not a troll. Go back and read the posts. They are a valid perpsective.

    • ter987
      04/02/2013 at 2:24 am

      WhereIsShe is not a troll..She is spot on..Listen and learn..This is the way the law works and if I ever needed a lawyer I would hope to get someone like her…She repects the law..

      • ter987
        04/02/2013 at 2:27 am

        sorry- meant respect

  96. Gateway
    04/02/2013 at 12:41 am

    I don’t know how believable & reliable HLN is, but tonite they said that it was highly unlikely
    that Judge S. would kick juror #5 off . Same goes for Wurmi and his futile attempts for a retrial. He is absolutely grasping at straws, desperately, because he has nothing and every
    one knows this.He has filed 4 or 5 of them to no avail plus he tried his damnest to get out of representing her completely. Kimmy, they also said Willnott lends ja clothes to wear in court
    and she gets some from her family. Figures, her family makes Honey Boo Boo’s look like royalty. Being somewhat naive to trials like this, how long do they usually last? This has been
    mental torture & overwhelming to say the least.I used to think I would take a front row seat in hell to see her get the DP but now I believe the most horrendous to her would be to get life
    w/o the possibility of parole with pictures of TA permanently plastered on the walls. OMG! I’ve
    gone from June Cleaver to Freddie Kruger during this trial. Can’t wait till it”s over!

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 12:52 am

      LOL Gateway! I’ve found that calls for mistrials are very common. Not sure, but I think it’s like something they have to do, or something.

  97. Douglme
    04/02/2013 at 12:44 am

    Kathy A. :
    Thanks, Kimmy. I was beginning to think I imagined it. I know the doc made a mistake by saying Jodi “came to” after she had gone through the “border patrol checkpoint” in Nevada. I don’t know about you, but if I had a legitimate memory lapse and found myself driving covered in blood, I think I would want to find out what happened, not immediately think I had done something wrong and start getting rid of evidence. I especially don’t think I would pay attention to the brand of bottled water I had to the point of bringing it up in court or interrogations, but then that’s Jodi. She throws in irrelevant details to, she thinks, sound more credible. Nurmi gets on my nerves; not excited about Jennifer either but I can handle her a little better than Nurmi. I cringe when he gets up to speak.

    One more piece of evidence to prove this was premeditated…who carries a case of water in their truck in the heat of summer. Certainly wouldn’t be to drink because it would be hot…too bad JM didn’t pick up on that or maybe he did and chose to ignore it.

  98. Anniefreeze
    04/02/2013 at 12:44 am

    Gigi :
    Just lately I’ve been thinking they probably didn’t really have sex on that last day of his life and that she’s taken us (well me anyway) for a ride with that story. I reckon she turned up
    when he was sleeping and took a few pix straightaway (those where he looks like he just woke up and is waving her away), she probably self-timed the silly ones of her snatch and her with plaits looking creepy, maybe she tried to get him to have sex ‘one last time’ but maybe he realised the phone sex episode had been a mistake and maybe he just plain refused to do anything. I can imagine this enraging her as the final rejection.

    Gigi, love your name btw,

    I respectfully disagree some of the ideas above. Here is why.
    1. Jodi turned up 3or4 am, the trial experts verified he was on the computer until that time.
    2. I don’t know a man who would turn down free secret sex with a woman who rocked his sex world. According to the phone sex tape, they had top notch sexual chemistry. All in good fun if it only a booty call.
    3. There is KY jelly on the bed, that stuff can be a little messy on the sheets. If they did not have sex why did they wash the bedding, the wash was put in after the 2:00 sex act. (To get rid of sex DNA)
    4. There was some mention that jodi put the laundry in the dryer while Travis was making phone calls around 3pm ish.
    5. Now look at the porn pictures. both privates look used, red, enlarged, bits and holes stretched out. Looks like sex definitely happened imo. detective f had the same opinion. ughughhhhhh. I just threw up!!!
    6. To take a self portrait of her ass, would be very difficult. a camera must be set up on something taller than her hips to get that photo. Traviss bedroom photos from evidence HLN slideshow, showed no tripod or highstools that could have been uses. Even if she found something to put the camera on, she would need to get on and off the bed many times to align the photo.
    7. Travis spoke in his sex tape May 10 about wanting to take pictures of her, from sweet to beyond raunchy and everything in between. he said he loved her lady junk and wanted close up photos. The sex tape revealed they agreed, no faces shown on camera just in case they put them on a kinky website. This could explain Travis’s eyes look closed, or speculated sleeping. He took her pictures and jodi took his pictures after coitis on june 4.

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:57 am

      GiGi totally with you. I think she set it all up. Not even sure what she is laying on in her pic is even the bed Travis is sleeping on when she took that first photo. Also her knees down aren’t visible… still suspicious of knife or remnants of ductape on that area she cut off. I actually rechecked that to look at her lower legs and to my amazement… they simply weren’t in the photo.

      • Anniefreeze
        04/02/2013 at 1:22 am

        Hi syn, please read the second part of post above, I added to Gigi’s post.

        Can you pls give your opinion, do you disagree? It starts out
        “I respectfully disagree…….”

  99. 04/02/2013 at 12:50 am

    Lisa M :
    The defense is rotten it’s true, I just hope juror #5′s conduct didn’t rise to anything major!

    Seems twitter is buzzing with connection between Juror #5 and some of the most pointed jury questions against Jodi. If .. IF.. there is a connection then this is the juror they’d be gunning for most.

    IF that’s the case…. Seems rather ‘lucky’ these events have tied both JM and that juror together. He only walked that way cos the reporter took him that way. I dunno… I dunno…. weirdly suspicious. Let’s hope it’s a storm in a teacup.

    The reality is whether JM was there or not if the jurors go out that way they see and hear things all the time.

  100. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 12:50 am

    Calling all Peeps! Great news from Chris Stark

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 2h
    #JodiArias Alyce speaking schedule THIS SATURDAY ABIP Training – Los Angeles http://www.alycelaviolette.com/Speaking-Schedule.htm

    ALV must complete her testiphony by Thurs as she has a speaking engagement on Sat in LA.

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:57 am

      ooooo fruit throwers get down there!

    • Anniefreeze
      04/02/2013 at 1:32 am

      After Juan finishes with her, she may show up to the event with some huge cold sores, and her head hanging low in shame. I hope not but look what happened to the good doctor, he is in hiding, proof, closing down his website. More path of destruction owned by ariasss

    • Crystal Harris
      04/02/2013 at 2:17 am

      A flight from Phoenix to LA is about an hour. She could fly home for the weekend and be back on the stand Monday.

  101. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 12:55 am

    I have confidence that Judge Stephens will handle the matter with #5 appropriately. If there is anything of real concern then she will be replaced by one of the alternates. Many trials that become media sensations like this one lose a juror along the way. If this is just a another non issue that the defense has raised then #5 will stay put. I just hope that the whole mess doesn’t eat too much time up tomr.

  102. Jill
    04/02/2013 at 1:41 am

    Hi Donchais, I really appreciate how you have given us the information for donating money to the alexander’s every so often. I think it’s important for you to keep posting that info every day or two. If each time you post it, brings in some extra money for the family, then it’s worth it! Don’t feel bad. I am so glad you did it again and again because I didn’t donate the first few times and said I would do it soon. I put it on the back burner and selfishly forgot about it until I saw your post the other day. So, Ty so much. And, please keep posting it! It’s what we are all about here…helping support the family as much as we can, and justice for dear Travis!

  103. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 2:03 am



    Jodi Arias Pre-Meditation Smoking Gun AKA “Remote Control – This is interesting.

    • ter987
      04/02/2013 at 2:43 am

      Nancy–That was unbelievable..I wonder if the police took the DVD Player from Darryl..That is really interesting..Thanks for posting this ..Best info yet

  104. 04/02/2013 at 2:03 am

    Anniefreeze :
    Hi syn, please read the second part of post above, I added to Gigi’s post.
    Can you pls give your opinion, do you disagree? It starts out
    “I respectfully disagree…….”

    Anniefreeze

    Ok here’s my thoughts on the naked shots.

    I respectfully disagree some of the ideas above. Here is why.

    1. Jodi turned up 3or4 am, the trial experts verified he was on the computer until that time.

    But who was on the puter? Someone was yes, but who? Debatable

    2. I don’t know a man who would turn down free secret sex with a woman who rocked his sex world. According to the phone sex tape, they had top notch sexual chemistry. All in good fun if it only a booty call.

    Believe me when you have reach your end point with someone like this sex is far from inviting – they repulse you. No matter how good the sex was the feelings are gone by this stage.

    3. There is KY jelly on the bed, that stuff can be a little messy on the sheets. If they did not have sex why did they wash the bedding, the wash was put in after the 2:00 sex act. (To get rid of sex DNA)

    Maybe because she got blood on it, maybe she planned it and she stuck to everything she planned just the extra stuff she couldn’t think through. Maybe because there was no DNA she washed it. A pretext to get him into the shower? Maybe she put the ky there and messed the sheets with it? Who knows, she washed em for some reason.

    4. There was some mention that jodi put the laundry in the dryer while Travis was making phone calls around 3pm ish.
    Maybe .. nobody knows when the washing was done.

    5. Now look at the porn pictures. both privates look used, red, enlarged, bits and holes stretched out. Looks like sex definitely happened imo. detective f had the same opinion. ughughhhhhh. I just threw up!!!

    I’m convinced the first one of Travis he is asleep Ive studied it and studied it.. mirrored it to my tv… I would swear he is asleep. The second one he seems to rouse and either wave her away or give her the fingers as we say here. The ones of her.. well I’m not interested in seeing again suffices to say I’ve looked enough to believe they are self portraits.

    6. To take a self portrait of her ass, would be very difficult. a camera must be set up on something taller than her hips to get that photo. Traviss bedroom photos from evidence HLN slideshow, showed no tripod or highstools that could have been uses. Even if she found something to put the camera on, she would need to get on and off the bed many times to align the photo.

    We don’t know where that pic was taken, could have been i n the study downstairs or on the floor. Her nekked shot does not look right either it’s even blurred as if she has just jumped into position as the camera went off and she was still moving. Doesnt look right at all. Plus she takes heaps of photos of herself I’m sure she has perfected the rear end show stopper long ago.

    7. Travis spoke in his sex tape May 10 about wanting to take pictures of her, from sweet to beyond raunchy and everything in between. he said he loved her lady junk and wanted close up photos. The sex tape revealed they agreed, no faces shown on camera just in case they put them on a kinky website. This could explain Travis’s eyes look closed, or speculated sleeping. He took her pictures and jodi took his pictures after coitis on june 4.

    I swear he is asleep, his pose says asleep, his eyes are closed. The phone sex was pure fantasy. I think it was their primary outlet so over time it had built to that level.

    He wanted shed of her, he wasn’t going to be taking those photos of her when he was trying to get rid of her. Just doesn’t gel to me.

    • Anniefreeze
      04/02/2013 at 2:44 am

      Syn, Ty, some of your theories are believable.
      Sheets were cleaned before and violence began. If Travis’s blood on them, there is no way she would have hung around for sheets to go thru wash cycle before putting the second load in with the camera and bleach. There was no time, killing ended at 5:30, roommates due home 6:00-6:30. impossible to put two loads after killing, not enough time. Travis wanted his sex evidence washed ASAP due to his guilt, they used each other for sex. With disgust travis wasted no time Washing dirty sex off sheets right after the 1:45 photo sex.

      He made calls around 11:??- 12:30 ish according to his phone records (fron chrisstark timeline). That would only leave a little over an hour for a nap, but he probably was not napping and hasty to get jodi moving along.

      I’ll look at this more later, this ipad makes it hard to write and insert tables and such.
      I thought you could sell me on “no sex for you” but I’m still stuck on sex happened. She wore braids to seduce him, I’m cool Travis, trust me Travis, remember when we had candles….etc.

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:13 am

        Anna, no selling anything. Just deductions from heaps of evidence I’ve sifted through, plus my understanding of her nature and motives.

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:14 am

        soz Annie not Anna

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 10:14 am

      “I’m sure she has perfected the rear end show stopper long ago.” ROTFLOL
      And there’s no time stamps on her pics. Couldn’t she have been down in the computer room at 4am, taking photos of herself and then deleting them so Travis has evidence of porn (and my apologies to porn stars in this one case) on his newly purchased camera, that she told him to buy. Syntara, I think you could really be onto something here…

      • 04/02/2013 at 10:45 am

        ueah I know…. how weird is that? I am thinking that she deleted them at a different time to the others. There is a stamp on the rear garage but it falls on the black right where the time should be… another thing… really dark in her pics… maybe just flash but maybe time of night? Need forensics to be able to somehow read that time on the black to make sure, the other one no time stamp at all.

      • Anna
        04/02/2013 at 10:54 am

        Yes, it’s surprising to me that forensics didn’t do more with these photos…I wish we could see all the time stamps clearly. Also, wonder what the difference in the allocated and unallocated photos means…anything?

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 10:26 am

      Also, re “I’m convinced the first one of Travis he is asleep Ive studied it and studied it.” I think he was at least half asleep. And why, within under 3 minutes before she takes the next photo is the bottle of ky moved? Travis looks to be in almost the exact same position but his arm is coming down from the pillow where it was resting and his left leg is lower. It could be consistent with him being startled into moving. The more I think about this the more it creeps me out to think what all the wobo was doing that horrid day. Syn, would she have had a ton of adrenaline pumping, or what?

      • 04/02/2013 at 10:46 am

        Cos she had placed it there for the pic? He realised it and moved it as soon as he woke? That’s my guess @ this stage

      • Ginger
        04/02/2013 at 7:18 pm

        She could have used the Ky to drag travis body put some on the floor making it a breeze to drag then the washing of the body it’s possible.

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 11:00 am

      Sorry, can’t get off this. I just went back and re-read, and this is key:
      “Believe me when you have reach your end point with someone like this sex is far from inviting – they repulse you. No matter how good the sex was the feelings are gone by this stage.”
      That is so true! And I’m betting he really didn’t want any ‘below the belt’ photos taken. So, was psycho killer trying to stage a scene that could point to some other jealous lover? One with a different car and blonde hair perhaps? This is definitely worth analyzing! Thanks Syn. 🙂 (btw have you heard from MMD?)

      • Anna
        04/02/2013 at 11:04 am

        check that….brunette hair…non-blonde-hair….fog

      • 04/02/2013 at 4:27 pm

        Gooood point re hair colour. Man she’s a piece of work!!!

  105. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 2:08 am

    Remember that guy Paul, who lives near Yreka, he told the media that he loaned JA the money to make the trip to Mesa. He told the media that JA had told him that she had to make the trip and that she thought that Travis was cheating. I keep wondering why he wasn’t called to testify because that is also proof of the premeditation. She didn’t decide once in Pasadena to detour to Mesa and his statements prove that. Any thoughts?

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:28 am

      Not heard about him…. if it’s for real why isn’t he being called JM must have a reason he’s putting together a case so wherever he is going with it he must feel he has enough.

      Hey Nancy… did you see the ductape? I mean study it? I can’t remember you giving inpit on if you saw a knife shape (particularly blade) in it?

      • Schaeffer
        04/02/2013 at 4:14 am

        I heard Paul say he loaned her the money. She came to him and said she was “desperate to get to Travis [because] she thought she was losing him.” He also said she paid him back. I think several of her exes loaned her money on various occasions not because she was still on good terms with them or because they still cared for her, but because she wore them down with her hysterics. She thought nothing of calling people at all hours of the day and night, or even just showing up and being so frantic they just wanted her to leave.

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 4:30 am

        Paul Stern – he was on Dr Drew – here’s the link. Actually it’s an interesting transcript – all of it.

        http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/06/ddhln.01.html

        Joining me, Paul Stern, who I`d said worked with her. I was wrong about that. He got know Jodi in 2008 before she killed Travis.

        I guess, Paul, she worked at the Ventana Inn up in Big Sur and you were a customer there. She was a bartender, is that correct?

        PAUL STERN, KNEW JODI ARIAS (via telephone): I own a house there. So, she frequented a bar and grill and restaurant every night to get on the computer.

        PINSKY: So, she was not — well, hold on a second. So, she was not an employee of this place. You guys both just went to this inn, this restaurant?

        STERN: Yes. She was an employee of Ventana but I wasn`t. I just lived there.

        PINSKY: I see. And you actually loaned her the money that ended up on the trip where she actually killed Travis?

        STERN: Well, the day before she left, she was pretty frantic that she had to go back and see Travis, and she talked about how he was seeing other people and she asked to borrow money and I gave her money.

        PINSKY: Paul, when you say she was frantic, describe how you — who you thought she was and what you mean by frantic.

        STERN: Well, I spent a lot of hours with Jodi. She would sit right next to me.

        And you know more about Jodi by what she doesn`t say. She never talked about her family, her friends, her boyfriends, her hobbies. And she never talked about her feelings or emotions.

        WALSH: What did she talk about?

        STERN: But she was on the computer constantly and she kept a journal. She would show me pictures on the computer. There had to be thousands of them. I only looked at a few.

        But I really wasn`t interested in time that much in her pictures.

        PINSKY: In spite of her talking about her obsessions — by the way, did she pay you back?

        STERN: She did pay me back.

        PINSKY: OK. And despite her talking about the obsessions about the boyfriend, was she sexually provocative with you?

        STERN: No. No. I have a girlfriend that I`m still with at that time. And I`m not available. And I think she sensed that.

        PINSKY: OK, so fair enough.

        STERN: She would come and sit next to me whenever she was in there.

        PINSKY: OK. Casey —

        STERN: And —

        PINSKY: What, Paul? Finish that up.

        STERN: When you engage in conversation with Jodi and look into her eyes, it`s like looking in a two-way mirror. But Jodi`s looking at the reflective part of the mirror. And her eye beams never really meet your eyes.

        And she`s very coy, enigmatic, and very articulate. And she`s also the same way about how she dresses, postures herself, and what she does without saying any words.

        PINSKY: OK, Paul, I`m going to put you on hold for a second.

        Casey, I see you shaking your head. What are your thoughts on this?

        CASEY JORDAN, CRIMINOLOGIST: Well, a few things. First of all, it`s great to hear from Paul Stern the fact that she had to borrow the money because she was obsessed about getting to Travis Alexander because she was in the middle of a terrible break-up and this was simply not acceptable to her. So his description of her obsession is really on cue with what we know happened thereafter.

        But that blank look in her eyes is what we very often call in sociology and criminology Cooley`s looking-glass self. It`s part of her chameleon and her actress affect. She`s constantly gauging or scanning whoever she`s talking to.

        And without even thinking about it, she mirrors back. We see her do it all the time in court. We see her do it with her defense attorney, even looking like her all the time.

        But she wants to know what will please people. This is a behavior she probably learned in her childhood. The bottom line is, he noticed it even though he wasn`t involved with her.

        WALSH: And Dr. Drew, isn`t that a survival instinct for many people who have survived child abuse?

        PINSKY: That`s right. It makes sense in the context, this kind of abuse.

        But, Casey, what`s it called? What`s the syndrome called? Cooley`s looking glass?

        JORDAN: We call it the Cooley`s looking-glass self. It means we are reflective and reactive. We are constantly modifying and interacting with everyone we communicate with, but some people take it to a much higher level to where they don`t even know who they are or what they —

        PINSKY: That — Casey, all right, Casey, I`ve got to go to a break. But I want you to take me from that syndrome to how we get somebody who is a murderer in your mind.

        Thank you, Paul Stern. Very enlightening.

        Syntara – you are amazing that you remember that I have never commented about the duct tape. You continually amaze me! I’ve thought about it a lot. Have to look at pic again tomr & then I’ll get back to you 🙂

    • Anonymous
      04/02/2013 at 3:20 am

      Yes, NancyB, I also am wondering why Paul (who was a constant visitor/customer @ a local bar/restaurant in association with Jodi) why isn’t he being called in rebuttal case? Or, is he? I haven’t seen the prosecution’s witness list. But I do remember seeing him on one of the HLN nightly shows. I believe he said something like ‘Jodi was stressed & she was desperate to get to Travis. So, he loaned her some money.’ (He said she paid him back). I haven’t seen her bank statements but would be interested to know if the deposits she made after seeing Matt Mc was the money from Paul or from Matt, as is the conjecture of some. Not that it really matters but deposits that equal whatever Paul could hopefully prove that he loaned her would certainly corroborate his statement that she said she was going to see Travis. Right? = Premeditation

  106. Anniefreeze
    04/02/2013 at 2:09 am

    Does anyone know how to insert pictures in the comments section here using an ipad?
    Not a link a picture, I use to be able to do this feature on laptop.

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:29 am

      Soz Anniefreeze I use an ipad but I just throw links in. Can’t help ya hope someone can.

      • Anniefreeze
        04/02/2013 at 2:49 am

        Syntata, Do you think the ipad is slow? Copying is touchy, do u know any shortcuts or apps with a better key board? How do you make italic text? You definitely know more than me!,, thanks sunshine.

  107. Crystal Harris
    04/02/2013 at 2:30 am

    I’ve had personal experience as the victim in a rape trial. My rapist husband had a very expensive legal team. The trial lasted a month (due to a similar frustrating court schedule like this one). I can just tell you that the Defense filed for mistrials constantly. Even after the conviction, at the sentencing hearing…another motion for a re-trial. And of course, then came the Appeal. That has been heard and denied now, too. It feels scary, but it is a common defense tactic. It likely makes the defendant feel like their attorney is “fighting” for them.
    And I also just feel like I have to mention how much I was attacked as a LIAR during the trial. I had caught my husband’s attack on audiotape, the nature of which dispels any notion of it being “role play” as my husband tried to say. What did the defense use to call me a Liar? The fact that I got one date wrong during my 1st interview with the DA. It was a date that really had nothing to do with the fact that my husband raped me, but that didn’t stop the defense from literally shouting over and over that I was a LIAR! So crazy!!!

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:43 am

      What a horrible experience. I hope you are managing to put at least part of it behind you. I wish you all the best in your full recovery. Unimaginable what you have been through.

    • Anniefreeze
      04/02/2013 at 2:56 am

      Chrystal, the first night you joined the chat room, I looked up your case. I was most impressed with your tenacity to finish what you started. You won, you must have a great sense of accomplishment. How did you stay tough? Did you continue to work thru it all? You are one strong sane woman. Bless you girl!

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 3:51 am

      You are have a strong warm soul Crystal and I admire you for coming through such inconceivable odds. You have made a difference in the lives of many who will be thankful for many years to come. I just wish that didn’t have to go through all of that to get there. ~hugs~

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 4:11 am

      ugh typos~ Sorry – First line “You have” – omit the are – Last line “I just wish that you hadn’t”
      Fog setting in heavy, time for beddy byes 😦

  108. ter987
    04/02/2013 at 2:56 am

    NancyB –You should be a detective..I still can’t get over the info on the “remote”. I can hardly wait for the rebuttal

  109. 04/02/2013 at 3:17 am

    Anniefreeze :
    Syntata, Do you think the ipad is slow? Copying is touchy, do u know any shortcuts or apps with a better key board? How do you make italic text? You definitely know more than me!,, thanks sunshine.

    I make custom shortcuts in settings keyboard. Plus I have an external keypad (bluetooth)

    • Anniefreeze
      04/02/2013 at 3:47 am

      I will look into that. Custom settings are found where?

  110. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 3:26 am

    WhereIsSHE :
    This is why the anger and resentment should be directed at THE DEFENDANT (and not at the lawyers who were court-appointed to represent her to the best of their abilities).
    SHE is the one who has “masterminded” (feeble-minded, IMO) this defense to the charges.
    We have just had another state prosecutor–and HIS WIFE– MURDERED in their own home by people who were just as angry and vigilant as the people who likely sent death threats to the lawyers who were appointed to represent the defendant in this case.
    NONE of the violence is OK.
    NONE of it is LEGAL.
    If we are for JUSTICE, then let’s be for JUSTICE.

    WhereIsSHE :
    This is why the anger and resentment should be directed at THE DEFENDANT (and not at the lawyers who were court-appointed to represent her to the best of their abilities).
    SHE is the one who has “masterminded” (feeble-minded, IMO) this defense to the charges.
    We have just had another state prosecutor–and HIS WIFE– MURDERED in their own home by people who were just as angry and vigilant as the people who likely sent death threats to the lawyers who were appointed to represent the defendant in this case.
    NONE of the violence is OK.
    NONE of it is LEGAL.
    If we are for JUSTICE, then let’s be for JUSTICE.

    I completely agree with you, and am as angry as you upon hearing the news about the terrible murders of officials in Texas. It is extremely worrisome and should not be taken lightly.

    I also realize that a threat of any kind should be looked into, especially in this day and age. But I don’t feel that anyone has portrayed that type of behavior on this blog, (not that I have witnessed) it seems to me that there are people from all walks of life on here, some who watch the talking heads on TV, and others that do their own research. Regardless, all of their opinions matter.

    I for one find your feedback invaluable on this blog, you make sense of the legalese, that we would not understand so well without your knowledge, but please don’t chastise people from having their opinions about the defense strategy – unfortunately they are going to be criticized as everyone on here wants justice for Travis and the defense’ strategy is to set a killer of one of the most heinous murders that I heard of set free.

    I will be following the cases in Texas My hubby and I were discussing it a short while ago and find it devastating! Racheal Maddow (MSNBC) did a very informative segment on it earlier this evening – it is a very disturbing situation on so many levels.

    That said, with any horrific situation, people need to vent, some do it by their opinions, some with those opinions and a dash of humor, which I believe more therapeutic and not so much a threat. Everyone needs an outlet of sorts to wade through horrific senseless circumstances, which I think we all do on here responsibly.

    ~hugs –Chrissie A

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/02/2013 at 10:01 am

      Thank you so very much for Sharing the laws, and to help explain I want to be fair and to understand the complete situation as well as understand. I am angry with what Jody did and it angers me more to listen to lies, and contradict her self. I still think she has always lied to her parents. Was she molested back in her childhood? Who knows. I believe we all should listen and watch as well as being objective. I know I need to be in control of my anger toward Jody’s negative behavior, and try not to be judgemental.

  111. 04/02/2013 at 3:28 am

    House of Flying Daggers movie:

    Yep I’d say this definitely qualifies as ninja

    Movie Trailer:

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=zLkedDMb8vI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzLkedDMb8vI

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:36 am

      This is the trailer to the movie Robert went ga-ga over. Anyone think not only the synopsis fits the crime, but it’s where she got the ninja idea from. Ok anyone NOT think it!

  112. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 3:30 am

    In moderation – sorry Donchais ~ugh~

  113. Anniefreeze
    04/02/2013 at 3:46 am

    Syn, Kim, ter987, Chrystal, Nancy’s, Jill. Good chatting and reading with you all.

    Love these symbols. ^**** waves****^ {{{hugs }}}. These things are darling.
    Is it ok if I use them too?
    airkiss is this one silly? I just made it up.
    Nighty night, it is 3:44 am est, I must go to sleep, I’m going to count sheep zzzshshshzzzzz

    • Anniefreeze
      04/02/2013 at 3:51 am

      airkiss

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:56 am

      night night Anniefreeze ***waves***

  114. Crystal Harris
    04/02/2013 at 4:16 am

    Thanks for the kind words. I feel strong for my 2 boys, now 10 & 7. I’ve never sought counseling, but I feel like my battle for justice has been a sort of therapy. Seeking to help other DV abd violent crime victims also inspires me. I mention my background in my posts cuz I know there are so many new people coming to this site all the time and just to let you know that I think I have a unique and credible perspective.
    I am blessed to have so much support in my life, an amazing career, my two amazing sons, and God. My life is a million miles from what I expected it to be at the age of 40, but it is what it is and I have peace.

  115. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 4:47 am

    Syntara — what is your current position on the duct tape? I have seen it posted that Jodi said it was to keep some sort of bio-tracking device taped to Travis’s upper arm — something to do with measuring his diet or exercise or calories expended or something similar while he was trying to lose weight. However, those things are expensive, and I cannot imagine he wouldn’t spring for whatever velcro device intended for it. Travis liked his toys, and he liked the best he could get. Plus, he was a businessman; how would that look if he was walking around with a rigged up duct tape situation?

    However, you seem to be referencing the duct tape to the knife. I don’t think she taped the knife on her body, because it hurts like hell to rip duct tape off one’s skin, it can’t be done quickly, and it leaves an abrasion similar to the one on Travis’s arm, thus that explanation.

    Do you think it was on the handle of the knife for better gripping? She had experience wielding a knife, so maybe she knew she would need some extra help. Could she have been “padding” the knife handle do it was easier to grip, getting the feel of it just right in addition to having better traction?

    Where are you on this?

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:10 am

      I’m on getting opinions on the shape of it looking like it was used as either a knife sheath or wrapped around the knife. I see a blade shape at the bottom of it, orr the bit that sticks out to the left, which if straightened would be the bottom. I wonder if it is a single piece or its actually a wrapping. It’s very hard to tell from the photo and I would love a 3d image of it.

      Have a look and see what you think. I have the pic Chrissie posted for me but it’s only on HD Can’t link it… should have saved the link. It’s the non glare one so it’s a good one to view it.

      • 04/02/2013 at 6:24 am

        Plus the pics which seem to have something on his arm in that pic where he gives her the fingers. The in the shower you can see the tape mark or what appears to be a tape mark around his bicep where he had that bio device ther. But… that tape does not look like it would have caused that mark, but it it didn’t where did the taspe that was around his arm, assuming it was.. where did it go?

        But…. he wouldnt be having sex with that on his arm so that goes against the sex bit and more to him sleeping when she came up and took the pics. No time stamps on her nekked pics or no readable ones without forensically grabbing them.

        dunno, the duct tape is a sticky one (haha pun intended)

        Still think that pic looks knife or possibly gun shaped to me.
        As i said need 3D pic of it was it held up in court or just the pic? I can’t remember.

        Anyhow going swimming then more zzs before (hopefully) trial time. **waves** byeeeeee

  116. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 4:54 am

    Syntara — look at this.

    http://www.myspace.com/414926066

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:05 am

      Is that a joke site? Im assuming so by the pic.??

      • Schaeffer
        04/02/2013 at 5:37 am

        No, it isn’t. I just went to myspace, where I do not have an account and have never had an account, and searched for Jodi Arias. She has several sites or addresses or whatever they are called there, and they all have had no activity for 4 years. There are all the pictures we have seen in court — pictures of Travis, In Loving Memory of Travis, PPL, messages from friends, inspirational quotes — forget to check if those pesky ten commandments are on there. I have never even been to myspace, but it is her stuff which has never been taken down. It is creepy, no?

      • 04/02/2013 at 6:02 am

        good lord so the red eyes you think is a legitimate pic she posted? surely not? Please not! lol

      • katz63md
        04/02/2013 at 9:28 am

        Too funny. Notice she has only 1 friend?

    • Moon
      04/02/2013 at 1:16 pm

      what i did notice is under interests, her last comment there says oh and premediated murder love it. OMG wish juan could use this!

  117. 04/02/2013 at 5:01 am

    NancyB

    STERN: Well, the day before she left, she was pretty frantic that she had to go back and see Travis, and she talked about how he was seeing other people and she asked to borrow money and I gave her money.

    CASEY JORDAN, CRIMINOLOGIST: Well, a few things. First of all, it`s great to hear from Paul Stern the fact that she had to borrow the money because she was obsessed about getting to Travis Alexander because she was in the middle of a terrible break-up and this was simply not acceptable to her. So his description of her obsession is really on cue with what we know happened thereafter.

    But that blank look in her eyes is what we very often call in sociology and criminology Cooley`s looking-glass self. It`s part of her chameleon and her actress affect. She`s constantly gauging or scanning whoever she`s talking to.

    And without even thinking about it, she mirrors back. We see her do it all the time in court. We see her do it with her defense attorney, even looking like her all the time.

    But she wants to know what will please people. This is a behavior she probably learned in her childhood. The bottom line is, he noticed it even though he wasn`t involved with her.

    WALSH: And Dr. Drew, isn`t that a survival instinct for many people who have survived child abuse?

    PINSKY: That`s right. It makes sense in the context, this kind of abuse.

    ____________

    Abuse? What abuse…. Criminologist was doing great up until he says it’s abuse. Puhlease! It’s abuse alright, her abusive manipulative nature. It sounds to me like this criminologist is saying the behaviour is Jodi’s survival mechanism because she was abused.

    Sorry but that last bit is a crock o shite. Not to put to fine a point on it. There is not one shred of evidence that supports the claim she was abused let alone to the extent this Jordan person is suggesting. Are all these talking heads buying into her crap?

    • Schaeffer
      04/02/2013 at 5:43 am

      I am DONE watching anything on HLN. They are still haranguing on and on about sex, anal sex, deviant sex, phone sex . . . blech!!! This site is far more enlightening, insightful, and ON POINT. I’m fairly certain no one here needs to hear or see another thing related to that red herring ever again.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 10:32 am

      I know!! It drives me nuts when Dr Drew starts in on that baloney! I could not watch him at all during CA’s trial for the very same reasons – he kept trying to hang his hat on DSM diagnosis’ and could not fathom that she was a psychopath! I was amazed when he came out fairly early in calling JA a psychopath. JVM I can’t even tolerate for a minute as many here have already commented on. I was done with her when I saw her actually running after Jose Baez with a microphone to try to get his comment. She is brain numbing with all her screeching. But the point I was trying to make was about Paul Stern and he definitely says that she was in a near panic about having to get to Mesa and that’s another chink in her version of how things went down.

      • 04/02/2013 at 10:52 am

        Manipulative behaviour is not isolated to psychopathy, it also falls within Borderline, Narcissim partcularly …. but it isn’t a prerequisite for those.

        But it’s the way she does it, the extreme deliberate way she learns from it that is psychopathic in nature, unique to Dr Hare’s explanation of psychopathy and evident immediately once you meet one. Annoying… you said it! Mainstream is very reluctant to even discuss psychopathy. Lots of speculation about that, but it’s not pertinent to this case. Very interesting tho.

  118. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 6:44 am

    Okay, folks. I know everyone, including myself, is up in arms about the defense filing a misconduct motion against Juan and a motion against a juror for misconduct. It is maddening. However, let me throw this out there so we can all keep our eyes on the prize.

    Filing motions in any criminal case, especially a death penalty case, is a full time job for at least one paralegal. A motion gets filed, denied, re-filed for consideration by changing a word or two or arguing it from a different point of view, ad nauseum. Both sides do this and frankly, many of them should be filed under “Motion to Cover My Ass” and be done with.

    In this case, the motion that makes me see red was filed by the defense on 29 November 2011, 12 December 2011, and argued orally on 9 March 2012. Each one of them sought

    .” . . to preclude the State from referring to Travis Alexander as the “victim” during the trial. Specifically, Defendant Arias argues she would be prejudiced by permitting the State and its witnesses to refer to Mr. Alexander as the “victim” since it is contrary to her claim of self defense. As such, she would be prejudiced.

    The State responds that the term “victim” is routinely used in criminal cases and does not imply the defendant committed the crime with which she has been charged. Further, the State argues Mr. Alexander was murdered and thus he was a “victim” of a criminal offense as defined by Arizona law.”

    Thank heaven the State won this one!

    I think this is an excellent example of how our justice system, which for all its faults is still probably one of the best in the world, has lost sight of the pursuit and dispensation of justice. Anyone with a brain can see how ridiculous and frivolous this type of nonsense is, but that is what the game has become. The rights of the victim appear to be the least of anyone’s concern. It is as if once you are dead, your rights cease to exist.

    In America (because I know we have some “foreigners” on here) we finally have rape shield laws in place. These laws prohibit or strictly limit the use of evidence of a victim’s past sexual history to undermine that victim’s credibility in a rape case. These laws are also intended to protect victims from invasions of their privacy. It would seem we need to have similar “shield laws” in place for victims who are no longer able to represent themselves due to being murdered or otherwise rendered unable to participate in their case, in an effort to protect their reputation so they cannot be slandered and/or libeled. In this trial, Travis Alexander has been the victim of both, and it is simply not fair.

    Thank goodness we can all get on here and rant and rave, because somebody — probably me — is going to have a stroke if they don’t have an outlet. Once we get it out of our system, albeit temporarily, we can focus on the real matter at hand: justice for Travis and his family, and punishment for The WOBO.

    Whew!!! Who have I pissed off now?

    • 04/02/2013 at 6:48 am

      Yep, this foreigner in complete agreement. Justice for Travis !!!

      • 04/02/2013 at 4:29 pm

        Essem I believe we were just called foreigners LOL!

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/02/2013 at 10:31 am

      I just want to see justice and see Travis put to rest his family start to heal. We all know Jody in my opinion is guilty, however it is the Jury and Judge that will decide.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 10:37 am

      Great comment! That motion truly was the most aggravating one I’ve ever seen! The audacity of attempting to prevent calling Travis the victim! Unbelievable. And you are completely accurate that in a death penalty trial defense must file motions for mistrial to protect future appellate issues.

  119. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 7:04 am

    Donchais — I think there is a glitch in messages from Kimmy @ 10:53 pm, and from myself @ 5:40 am, and 6:58 am. They are staying at the bottom of the comments and are not getting in order so to speak. Also, for the two posts I made, I was using the “reply” button but it is posting them as a new comment. I know diddly squat about the mechanics of this system, so if it is “me” who is out of order, apologies in advance. ciao

  120. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/02/2013 at 8:38 am

    I am waiting to hear what the verdict will be today, I would hate to see the trial start over and I am sure glad that I am not part of the jury, because I have no interest watching it again.

  121. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/02/2013 at 9:11 am

    I am interested in hearing more about the law on the death penalty, it does confuse me and that is something only professionals should determine, in all fairness. I am very angry with what Jody did and how she planned it and then lies. I do not understand why she cannot come clean with her attorney’s, by doing so I would think she would be better off.

    • 04/02/2013 at 11:38 am

      It’s the nature of her personality ‘disorder’. She values lies over truth. It’s that simple.

  122. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 10:49 am

    • chris stark ‏@stark3923 3h
    #JODIARIAS dog found – picture found of DoggyBoy pic.twitter.com/ycV4w8GVpm

  123. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 10:55 am
    • 04/02/2013 at 11:45 am

      Is doggy boy whom she ‘kicked”? If so that is sooooo wickedly funny!!!

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 1:21 pm

        Yes, Syn! She kicked Doggy Boy and I agree that it’s wickedly funny! I got fooled – before I opened it I thought that it would really be a pic of DB!

  124. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 11:18 am

    Court begins in 1hr, . First topic is sure to be addressing the mistrial.

    • 04/02/2013 at 11:29 am

      oooh an hour yay! wonder how long the crapola will take. TY for the time update I lose it over here!

  125. 04/02/2013 at 11:24 am

    Schaeffer :
    Kimmy, Kimmy, Kimmy — you are losing track of the stories! Remember, she SHOWERED with Travis’ body before she ever left the bedroom/bathroom. She was no more covered in blood than she had blood on her hands anywhere in the desert. The only way she had blood on her hands in the car was if she got a little bit on her when she was disposing of the evidence.
    And I don’t think she had a case of water in the trunk, either, because she had 15 gallons of gas in three cans, plus her luggage and her camera bag. She testified it was all in the trunk. Who keeps gasoline and water in the trunk of a car crossing the desert?

    Schaeffer: She could have had blood on her hands … that finger cut remember? It would be bleeding the whole time. I’d say that’s where she got the idea for that little mock up Weird how she named the brand.. was she looking for a commercial endorsement.. hahahahah.. sounded like it. .

    • Marilyn N
      04/02/2013 at 11:37 am

      I don’t think there was a case of water in the trunk, either (from Costco,no less).

      On one of her receipts for something to eat at McDonalds, she purchased a bottle
      of water. So much for saving money.

      Also, if the water was in the trunk it would have been very hot for drinking, possibly too hot.

      • 04/02/2013 at 11:41 am

        No its more like she had a bottle of water with her, rinsed off the blood on her hands with a bit of it. Voila the “I was covered in blood and had to use a whole crate to clean myself” ….. mock up…..

        yah whateeevaaaaa!!!

    • Schaeffer
      04/02/2013 at 1:57 pm

      Costco is not a brand of water, it is the name of a store. It is one of those membership club places where you have to buy a gross of anything — do y’all have Sam’s Club (Wal Mart’s version of a membership club or something similar? It is like that.

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:59 pm

        nahnot really we do have tho just not franchised.

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 2:30 pm

        Exactly syn, because she had already cleaned herself up from all the blood in Travis’ tub. The tub was left spotless and would not have been due to the pattern of blood spatter according to the expert.

  126. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 11:25 am

    Morning folks. I’m back and I missed everyone soooooooooooo much!!!!!

    • 04/02/2013 at 11:30 am

      Wicked Little MMD!!!!!!! soooooo glads you are back… how you feeling??? Hope Alice and Perky don’t send you into a relapse!!!

    • LindaLou
      04/02/2013 at 12:19 pm

      Hi MMD, so glad you’re back and hope youRe feeling much better. Missed you bunches.

  127. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 11:26 am

    I see that we have a whole slew of new peeps here and I am so far behind so I’m gonna have to just wing it today!!!

  128. WhereIsSHE
    04/02/2013 at 11:28 am

    NancyB :Hi Where Is SHE – I initially believed those first reports that there had been death threats against the defense, which of course are abhorrent. Two days later I heard a follow-up report on CNN that quoted someone from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, who confirmed that there have NOT been any death threats and that it was rumor without any basis. As for your appellate concerns related to Juan’s fans approaching him for pics etc, yes, now that this issue has been raised I just hope all fans will make no further attempts to speak to or make requests of him while the trial is still in progress. As far as your vigorous support of this defense team as just doing their job, well, we can agree to disagree on that issue. I certainly have enjoyed reading many of your previous comments that have been shed light on topics from a legal standpoint.

    I am in no way supporting, let alone vigorously supporting, the defense team. I have been downright critical of their tactics. I am just pointing out that they are pushing a defense which is driven by their client. The allegations of abuse and pedophilia are all the sick and twisted creation of Jodi Ann Arias. In my assessment, Nurmi doesn’t buy it, but he has no choice in the matter. He tried to withdraw from representing her and the court would not allow it. (I am no fan of his, so don’t take that as such. I’m just saying it is healthier to direct appropriate anger at Jodi.) It is also my assessment that Willmott is up to her eyeballs in the Jodi-Kool-Aid. Too bad for Jodi that Willmott did a horrible job preparing Dr. Fog.Any decdent attorney in her shoes would have noticed that he tested her when she was on the 2nd lie/intruder tale.
    I would never do their job, but I’m glad we live in a society where some people are willing to take on the role of representing –for lack of a better term–“unpopular” criminal defendants. Otherwise, it woudl be a lynch mob form of justice and our system would rind to a halt.
    The fact is that the majority of rinminal defendants who go to trial (in lieu of entering a plea of guilty/no-contest or entering into a plea agreement) end up in prison. Unfortunately, the more high profile a case, the more likely an easy prosecution becomes a difficult one.
    And then, of course, when you add the death penalty into the mix, the more (and by a long shot) financial and other resources become available to the accused, but nothing anywhere near what it would otherwise be in view of the fact that a case is so newsworthy. HLN has created a new show–HLN After Dark–just for this trial (and has hired the likes of Jose Baez, no less, to participate and spin like mad, which irks me to no end.0

    Anyway–
    Just wanted to clear up that I am not a fan of Nurmi, Willmott, Samuels, Laviolette, –particularly the experts who could have politely declined to paticipate. At some point, the defense team would have found SOMEONE to fill those slots.

    The sad fact is that the majority of people facing the death penalty have, HISTORIICALLY, been afforded the WORST assistance. There are records of the sole defense attorney in many cases showing up drunk to court, not asking a single question, not calling a single witness, etc, and the sad fact is that innocent men have been put to death because of it.
    If we want to live in a society that uses death as a punishment, we have to sometimes be willing to pay the price for it–financially, spiritually, etc.

    I know that Travis’ family wants Jodi to be sentenced to death, and they are the ones who should have the most say on that matter. I don’t care if that doesn’t happen, so long as she is found guilty of premeditated murder and serves LWOP. But again- I am not a family member, nor am I a resident of the State of Arizona, so my opinion is truly irrelevant.

    • 04/02/2013 at 11:36 am

      I think the issue is they really don’t have much to work with, I mean it boils down to them trying to defend the indefensible and hoping they hit at least one juror’s empathy button just enough to keep her from the DP at least. How can you defend this rubbish with your integrity intact…. you can’t. I guess the best they hope for is peeps realising they are doing a job but…….. the girlie whispering exchanges and smiles and little hand waves,,, that goes beyond professional relationship that wreaks of personal involvement. At least Wormi has had the decency to distance himself from those kind of involvements.

      Again… purely observation of interaction, no legal knowledge here at all… flatline. Which is why I appreciate your insight WhereIsShe you give me knowledge I would never have and I appreciate it greatly.

      • Marilyn N
        04/02/2013 at 11:45 am

        Plus, we want her defense to do all they can for her or she could come back on appeal for a new trial saying they didn’t.
        (can’t think of the proper “verbiage”).

      • 04/02/2013 at 11:50 am

        yah incompetent defense or something. Which the legal-ese think it was observer has stated is very hard to prove even said one was thrown out where the defense attorney fell asleep and had to be prodded for cross or re-cross !http://wickedscruples.com/the-trial-of-jodi-arias/unedited-police-videos/

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 1:15 pm

      Hi WIS ! Thanks so much for clarifying all of this. I’m very appreciative that you have made it clear what your thoughts are about the defense and the so-called experts and it’s a relief to hear an attorney that obviously has a strong ethics and advocates for victims and their surviving families! I’m in agreement with all of your comments. I detest HLN’s new show – to me it’s like some other world demented game show. HLN’s advertising pricing has doubled since the beginning of this trial so that about says it all. I too find it repugnant that these experts’ testiphony is for sale regardless of whether there is any validity to their clinical evaluations, which there isn’t in this case.

      While I believe that this crime makes JA very appropriate for the death penalty, I too would be very satisfied with LWOP. I know in some states that LWOP sentences are in lock down 23 hrs a day but I have no idea if AZ is one of those states. I initially worried that if she got the death penalty that she would have too many privileges – in CA inmates have TV’s in their cells, have the ability for some hours on internet where they find pen pals etc and that disturbs me. I doubt that AZ is like this due to Joe Arpaio.

      I’m probably naive but where in the hell is the search for the truth? Citizens have the right to expect that what is true will be discoverable at trial, and that obvious guilt can surely withstand the test of reasonable doubt. It bothers me that the jury does not know that she had 2 knives and the 9mm gun packed in her car and ready to go right before she was arrested. There are other things that I think were not “too prejudicial” and should have been in front of this jury. Mega trials seem to exaggerate this flaw in our system. Legal decisions should make sense not simply to lawyers and judges; they should also appeal to the rightness and righteousness of ordinary people. What is a verdict if it doesn’t verify the truth — not some legalistic stand-in called legal facts, but the actual truth?

      It bears noting that travesties of justice happen less frequently in other western nations. Instead of having both sides fight a zero sum game, the winner-take-all, scorch the earth contests that make American trials similar to its sporting spectacles, other countries place a higher value on having both the prosecution and the defense work to uncover the truth. After all, everyone in society benefits when the truth is known and injustice is not allowed to prevail — in this case, the memory of Travis Alexander’s life, especially.

      • 04/02/2013 at 2:07 pm

        Eloquently put~~ I am of the belief: “THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AN NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH”and that tells me all of it.

      • Lisa M
        04/02/2013 at 2:26 pm

        I agree with everything you say but not sure about trials in other countries. Look at the Amanda Knox case for instance!

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 2:36 pm

        Hi Lisa – you make a very valid point but I don’t consider Italy a “western nation”, though what I base that on is purely my own opinion.

  129. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 11:45 am

    So first of all welcome to everyone new since I’ve been gone. I’m the welcome wagon. 🙂 I’m not gonna try and name everyone since that would take me days to find you all so now that is out of the way…….

    If you are obsessed with this case then you’ll fit right in. We are also really kinda major league fans of Juan Martinez. 🙂

    An added bonus, our host donchais, graciously allows our obsessions, rants, frustrations and anger! Another bonus that donchais provides free of charge is that on days when there isn’t trial scheduled, she keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. Truly a public service in itself, although a great deal of online shopping does occur! 😉

    The highlight though is her daily report on the trial proceeding complete with hilarious commentary!!! Enjoy! 🙂

    It really is a great group of people from around the world and everyone is so supportive of each
    other. Quite a few of us started out very computer illiterate! Some of us still are.

    If you’ve read any of the back comments then you know that most of the people here have gone through some major traumas in their lives and shared their stories here. This is truly a safe place to do so, so feel free to share as little, as much or nothing at all.

    I know that I was a lurker for the longest time before I posted but I always read donchais’ daily reports. It took a while to jump in but once I did I haven’t looked back!!!

    BTW, I put dibs on JM a long, long time ago so just wanted to put that out there and Chrissie has the pictures to prove it (as well as the entire twitterverse) lol 😉

    So let’s get back to the case and getting justice for TA and the entire Alexander family, who we all have such tremendous respect for!!! Remember if you are able to help them out in any way possible, please do so. They are so appreciative and they are having a hard time financially since they are not from Mesa. Our awesome host, donchais has all the details as to where donations can be sent and it is totally legitimate. Just the cost of a cup of coffee helps.

    Now let’s get Gidget and Wurmi through this travesty called Alyce and on to JM’s cross and rebuttle case so that little miss JA can get the DP and Travis can finally rest in peace!!!

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 11:51 am

      Hi MMD! Welcome home. Boy have we missed you! {{{hugs}}}

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 12:12 pm

        Hey Anna – missed all my peeps too!!! {{{{{{{{ }}}}}}}}}} back at ya 😉

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:02 pm

      MMD… Juan baby is NOT yours. I don’t care what bogus schemes you have or what dodgy photoshops you pull out of that green hat complete with tin foil…..I AIN’T buying it!!

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 12:14 pm

        Syn, you’re truly a sad, sad case. Continue with your delusion if it makes ya feel better but what can I say – the man has spoken 😉 ROFL

      • 04/02/2013 at 12:23 pm

        not bothering to comment beyond…. I think speaks for itself on the delusion issue! 😛

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 12:16 pm

        Besides was he with the one in the red plaid flannel nightie at sunset on the beach or down your rabbit hole?????? Guess we’ll have to wait for Chrissie to come back with the proof!!!! Besides, it’s a shorter commute to Canuckland than OZ LOL 🙂

      • 04/02/2013 at 12:26 pm

        Red shoes baby… red shoes!!! Three taps… and he is in Oz!!

  130. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 11:48 am

    I found this more enhanced audio today. It sounds like she says – STILL BEAT ME…. BRAT

    • 04/02/2013 at 11:55 am

      ok thats three that initially heard brat. I thought at first it was, Grace thought it was and now you. She calls ppl brats in her interview it is part of her vernacular. Still think she is talking to Travis. So she did that to him because he was a brat? yeah… says it all really.

      either winner or brat… she’s basically saying the same thing. “I won .. stuff you”

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 12:18 pm

        Yes. But I think she’s giving in… It sounds like me not you. Like Travis beat her because she got caught. Still beat me… BRAT!

      • 04/02/2013 at 12:25 pm

        hmmmm let me listen again… I an’t see her saying that but hey….. makes sense on many levels. wth is about all I can say to this.

  131. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 11:50 am

    Hey Marilyn – our official time watcher!!! How are ya and how much time til we go? 🙂

    • Marilyn N
      04/02/2013 at 12:02 pm

      Oh Hi there, MMD. So glad you’re back!! Officially 28 minutes by my clock.
      Of course, we all know that is subject to change!!

  132. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 11:55 am

    I was thinkin last night… would JA actually be better off if the didn’t declare a mistrial? Sure there is the possibility the state would more willing to offer a plea for something life life. But that aside.. I think numri would request to get released again – and probably be granted. The trial would loose all it’s media sensationalism – thus most of the donation for her and her family would disappear her art work would loose it’s value since alot of media outlets would stop carrying daily coverage. She would for the most part fade into the background .. until the next verdict.

  133. 04/02/2013 at 11:59 am

    Good Morning All from the ol hens! We won’t be online today with the trial or the posting as CI Ci’s son needs his laptop today so we’ll have to watch it on HLN…..grrrrr!! We have an IPAD but we just can’t get it to work with us….all we got it to do was record us….and that was by accident! Anyway before court starts we have a question for anyone out there who is court savvy.
    After she is convicted of First/Premed will the defendent be allowed to address the family or the jury to plead for her own life? Will the family have the opportunity to address the jury and plead for the death penalty? Does this happen anywhere???

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 12:11 pm

      Hey CiCi – will miss ya today. I believe that everyone affected will be able to give victim impact statements and that if convicted of 1st degree that JA and others will be able to make a case to save her life before they make the final decision.

      Anybody, if I’m wrong please correct me!

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 12:11 pm

      yes she will be able to make a statement before she is sentenced. (called allocution). The vicitms family and such will be able to make statements at this time.

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:12 pm

      LOL all you got it to do was to record you guys??? hahahahahaha now post that footage cos I want evidence of the bunch of yas! 😛

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 12:19 pm

        Yeah post it. We all want to join your group CiCi. You guys have the best time ALWAYS!!!!! 🙂

    • Schaeffer
      04/02/2013 at 2:55 pm

      Ladies, here is a link to try for viewing the trial on an ipad. I am not promising it will work, but maybe it will.

      If you are viewing on a tablet and can’t see the stream cut and paste this link: http://bcove.me/r9952nln

      Read more: http://www.wptv.com/generic/news/national/Jodi-Arias-trial-live-video#ixzz2PKkUkYOV

      I copied this from the page I am watching, which is

      http://www.wptv.com/generic/news/national/Jodi-Arias-trial-live-video

  134. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 12:07 pm

    As far as declaring a mistrial – in every trial I have ever watched, and that is LOTS,
    it is very normal for the defense to ask for a mistrial several times thruout the trial.
    I have never seen one granted.

  135. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 12:21 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Many ask when it starts but you know the dealeo. It starts when Judge Stephens wants it to start. Stay tuned, should start soon

  136. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 12:26 pm

    Syntara :
    Manipulative behaviour is not isolated to psychopathy, it also falls within Borderline, Narcissim partcularly …. but it isn’t a prerequisite for those.
    But it’s the way she does it, the extreme deliberate way she learns from it that is
    psychopathic in nature, unique to Dr Hare’s explanation of psychopathy and evident immediately once you meet one. Annoying… you said it! Mainstream is very reluctant to even discuss psychopathy. Lots of speculation about that, but it’s not pertinent to this case. Very interesting tho.

    Dr. Drew is aggravating because he always has to hang his hat on the abuse excuse. Always. Someone completed the Hare Scale on Casey Anthony during the trial and posted it on their blog and it was quite telling. That is when I become a huge proponent of the scale because it was so revealing on many levels. Dr Drew is certified in Internal Medicine. He is not a psychiatrist. Granted, he has an above average knowledge base of DSM psychiatric diagnosis’ due to his years of working with addicts but I totally resent his habit of always going to the abuse as a cover. I see absolutely nothing in JA’s childhood that raises to the level of true abuse. Nothing. Thanks for pointing out that MSM is gun shy of even acknowledging psychopathy. I hadn’t put that together but so so true!

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:44 pm

      The abuse is old fashioned therapy. Basically irelevant to personality disorders because once that isnestablished all rules forntraditional therapy break. Don’t work. As I’m sure you’d be aware

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 1:29 pm

        I love how you explain things.

  137. Nancy Pennington
    04/02/2013 at 12:29 pm

    Can any of you legal minds answer this question—IF a mistrial is granted at some point, could JA change her story ie: I really didn’t do it or I was insane or it was a crime of passion???? The “new” jury would be instructed that they couldn’t consider any of the current testimony, right?? Please tell me this couldn’t happen PLEASE!!!

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 12:41 pm

      **giggle snort** I guess the law would be the only thing to prevent her from making up yet another version because Logic, Common Sense, & Reason live no where near her. She thinks only about herself.

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 12:47 pm

        ROFL plus she and the truth are so NOT acquainted!

  138. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 12:29 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Ok, all other cases are over. Juan and Flores have taken their seat at their desk. Counsel is headed to chambers

    Well don’t we always. Then for dessert we’ll have a sidebar. 😉

  139. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 12:33 pm

    Syntara – Duct Tape: I definitely see that shape resembles the contours of covering the sharp part of a knife but I mostly tabled that issue when I saw that Chris Stark had several tweets about it. The gist of those tweets was that Travis used some calorie burning counter and she actually showed a picture of Travis with this device on his upper arm and attached with duct tape. This was several weeks ago and don’t have the time to locate it on her page right now. If I tweeted I’d ask her to re-post it. Hey, did you just sign up for Twitter? If so it would be great if you tweet her to request she re tweet it. She also claimed that Travis used it during to sex to see how many calories he had burned. No idea how legitimate this entire opinion is but I sort of dropped it at that point.

    • 04/02/2013 at 12:49 pm

      hmmmm wonder what she is basing that on. Still van’t see that piece fitting the arm mark. It’s too long if it’s bunched up and not a straight cut which if it was around his arm it should be. But without physical or at least 3D analysis the rest is pure conjecture. I see it in the photo. I see the mark on his arm… makes sense in some ways and not others.

      The Duct tape is irritating to say the least. It’s the hardest to put somewhere without anomalies arising elsewhere.

      • Moon
        04/02/2013 at 12:52 pm

        syn, what duct tape? i missed that but would like to see, do you have a link or pic that i can look at? thanks so much….

        waiting with baited breath for this thing to get going this morning….

  140. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 12:35 pm

    Hi MMD!!!! Are you all better?

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 12:36 pm

      Hi Nancy – pretty much 🙂

  141. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 12:39 pm

    OH-NO. TA FAMILY HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO JUDGES CHAMBERS.

    • SCK
      04/02/2013 at 1:14 pm

      How are you seeing all of this???

  142. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 12:39 pm

    JA – still not in court room

  143. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 12:41 pm

    JA – also going to judges chambers

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 12:45 pm

      Sucks that TA’s family has to be in close quarters with her. I imagine it’s not pleasant for them!

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 12:50 pm

        In the judge’s chambers together – poor family. Sad thing JA is probably loving it 😦

  144. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 12:44 pm

    Anyone else scared that they are telling TA’s family that there’s a mistrial? Kinda freaking out over here!!!

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 12:45 pm

      Yes..

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 12:46 pm

        My lunch is now back up in my throat

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 12:50 pm

      Just recently recovered from the film post; but now stomach in knots.

      • Anna
        04/02/2013 at 12:52 pm

        Ditto, I can’t move…well except for my fingers…

  145. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 12:53 pm

    OMG – If this trial is over I might have to go shopping!!!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 12:54 pm

      wash your mouth out with soap now Marilyn!!!!! Don’t even think it!!!

  146. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 12:53 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    I know you are all anxious to know what’s going on back there but you know as much as I do. #JodiArias

  147. 04/02/2013 at 12:54 pm

    Moon :
    syn, what duct tape? i missed that but would like to see, do you have a link or pic that i can look at? thanks so much….
    waiting with baited breath for this thing to get going this morning….

    Moon I have it on my HD… no link… let me see if I can find something for you to at least look at.. may not be the best – Chrissie probably has it on hand

    • 04/02/2013 at 1:00 pm

      Moon – not read this article but it does show a pic of the tape. Take a look at the tape closely before reading the article, as the article might tarnish total objectivity. If you don’t see anything but straight forward tape that’s off his arm that’s fine. I just ca’t get passed the shape of the pointy left bit at the moment .

      http://www.chathousenews.com/2013/02/duct-tape-evidence-jodi-arias-chat.html

      • Moon
        04/02/2013 at 1:30 pm

        thanks so much for that! looks to me like an excessive amount for his arm, but if he is right handed and applied the tape with his left hand i could see how there could be extra tape. weird tho that he would use tape to hold his monitoring equip on.. further studying required!

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:37 pm

        Do you see a knife blade shape at the bit pointing to the left… or maybe a gun shape? I see a blade in the left bit that if straightened would be the bottom. But could be happenstance.

  148. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 12:55 pm

    I swear if that happens…we have to do something about the inane dragging out of court cases. Perhaps the whole idea of pretending one can be away from all discussion or images of the trial they are judging can be let go as the myth it is.Germany now uses professional jurors. Modes of justice change with time. There should be a protection against cruel and unusual punishment when one agrees to serve on a jury.

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 12:57 pm

      “There should be a protection against cruel and unusual punishment when one agrees to serve on a jury.”
      Boy that would be nice. Also protection for trial obsessed old people like me.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 12:58 pm

      Robert – so glad you are back and recovered from the knock out punch from Syn 😉 Really glad you have a caring wife to look after you!!!! LOL

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/02/2013 at 1:00 pm

        Yes and I followed everyone’s attempt to find you and show you Superman in bed with you!

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 1:02 pm

        Did ya see the picture of us on the beach at sunset with palm trees and me still in my red plaid. JM just loves flannet 🙂

  149. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/02/2013 at 12:55 pm

    In my opinion Jody Aries is so selfish and only cares for herself, also as cunning as she is could she have the law tied around her finger.

  150. 04/02/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Hello Robert 🙂 Did you see the ninja trailer to that movie?

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 1:05 pm

      Yes. So now I just turn my head side to side and marvel at the depth of depravity.

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:14 pm

        04/02/2013 at 1:07 pm
        Othello? coincidence? nup nup nup! sick sick sick

  151. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 1:03 pm

    They have been back there a long time… my stomach hurts.

  152. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Well all the talking heads seem to think that the chance of a mistrial are pretty slim (knocking on wood as I type this)

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 1:06 pm

      I trying to keep the faith

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:07 pm

        Othello? coincidence? nup nup nup! sick sick sick

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:09 pm

        oops wrong plaxe disregard that was to Robert! soz peeps

  153. Teresa Santos
    04/02/2013 at 1:07 pm

    thanks for the tip, Kimmy! i don’t think the mormon blood atonement subject was brought up in court though. i can’t access all interrogation videos, i’d like to check all of those as well, if anyone can post a link for those i’d appreciate it. all i see is on youtube, haven’t come across the complete full lenght videos.

    i also think they did have sex that afternoon; i believe Jodi had the whole thing planned and just had a slight hope that he’d still invite her to go to Cancun with him, in which case she’d let him live. Although Travis said to his friends that if anything ever happened to him Jodi would be connected to it, and he knew she was stalking him, i don’t think he believed to be in such danger. Otherwise, at the time she said she was stopping by after all, he would have texted one or two of his friends just to warn them that psycho would be there. Or called someone to be there as well. I think only sick people can crave for sex in such a way as to put their lives at risk for a shag, or that would make them disregard such danger.

    Is there really going to be a movie? can’t Travis’s family prevent from appearing there anything there’s no clear evidence of??
    And i share many people’s opinion that there’s an error here to begin with: this is the Travis Alexander’s murder trial, not the Jodi Arias trial. Regerdless of the verdict, this woman is where she loves to be: the spotlight. Her posture in court has changed throuhout the weeks. did ya’all notice how she wore lighter and tighter clothes while Dick Samuels was taking the stand?

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 1:08 pm

      Follow these… I think they are 18 in total…

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 1:11 pm

        18!!!!!!!!!!! OMG I know what I’m gonna be doing Fri/Sat/Sun!!!! Never gonna miss any time EVER again!!!!!!!!!

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 1:13 pm

        They are only about 30 minutes each though. I only made it to 10 so far.

  154. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    #JodiArias & all still in chambers. Wish I was a fly on the wall in there.

    I think he and ALL OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 1:10 pm

      Absolutely!

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 1:12 pm

      OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH The stress of it…the stress of it all…..In chambers together!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just trying to imagine being a fly in the room makes my stomach churn.

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:16 pm

        okies legalities.. what’s possibly happening apart from mistrial.. other scenarios?

  155. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 1:11 pm

    Anyone have any ideas — why they are all in there .. other than the thing we will not speak

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 1:14 pm

      Maybe JA has a migraine again or maybe there is pressure for a plea deal?????????? Or maybe JA is just trying to make the family miserable and be the center of attention as long as possible in their………..

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 1:14 pm

      I can think of no other reason… Sorry

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 1:19 pm

      Ok… Maybe they are going over a new witness. Wait. Nope that would not include his family. SH*T… This is starting to drive me crazy! 45 mins and counting!

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:16 pm

      Possible plea deal????????????

  156. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Syntara :
    oops wrong plaxe disregard that was to Robert! soz peeps

    I know. You got me. Face to Face through the glass darkly. I guess during all that time in the car one can think of all sorts of things.

  157. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 1:15 pm

    I’m trying to figure out why the jurors don’t have their own private, secure entrance/exit. Anyone? There’s a crowd outside the courthouse everyday, I would think, that could influence them, too. Why only when it involves Juan? And if I was a juror I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near the public right now. I’m confused as usual.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 2:39 pm

      I totally agree with you.

  158. SCK
    04/02/2013 at 1:19 pm

    truejustice :
    JA – also going to judges chambers

    How are you seeing what’s going on in the courtroom?

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 1:22 pm

      Twitter feeds from people in the courtroom.

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 1:23 pm

      No – following cbs5az.com they have two reports there that are supper at tweeting.

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 1:24 pm

        Meant reporters. Wildabouttrial is good too! If you’re interested. Don’t know what I’d do without them!!

      • truejustice
        04/02/2013 at 1:27 pm

        Neinna – Thanks !
        My typing gets worse the more my blood pressure rises – lol !

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 2:04 pm

        I feel ya!!

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 2:05 pm

        Oh! I meant… I meant reporters 🙂 LOL – But now I see that apparently you meant it as well. Damn this fog!! 🙂

  159. 04/02/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Eactly… all this money wasted because jurors don’t have an alternate access route? wtf??? (If mistrial is upheld that is kinda jumping the gun on it obviously!) but hey… why don’t they have one if this kind of thing can potentially waste so much time and money?

  160. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:20 pm

    I think that there is one juror who goes out front every day to smoke.

  161. LindaLou
    04/02/2013 at 1:21 pm

    I cannot imagine how hard it is for Travis’ family to be in the Judges chambers along with JA. I feel so sorry for them.

    • LindaLou
      04/02/2013 at 1:24 pm

      That’s assuming they’d all be in there together

    • 04/02/2013 at 1:24 pm

      omg the thought is gut wrenching!!!

  162. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 1:22 pm

    At least someone is not freaking out!!…

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial
    As I stare down at my laptop I realize I am not a huge fan of the carpet choice in here. It needs more salmon. And cowbell. #JodiArias

  163. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 1:23 pm

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial

    The sound of a door opening perks the entire courtroom up. It was Valerie coming in, she headed back to chambers with some docs.

  164. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:25 pm

    I don’t think that any of this is about JM. The local AZ station that originated the story redid it and couldn’t understand why CNN chose to recut it the way they did. Apparently JM never uses the front door and the local reporter had already talked to him by the elevator and he would not talk on camera or about the trial. She then asked him if he would walk out the front door with her just for footage and he said ok and they were both taken by surprise by the people that came up to him. He was polite to the people and bowed out as quickly and as politely as possible. He and the local reporter then walked a short distance together, he to his office, she to the station. Nothing about the trial or even the response of the public was even discussed.

  165. 04/02/2013 at 1:25 pm

    Time to get vodka lime cocktails I …. can’t…. take…….. this!!!!

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 1:29 pm

      Wishing I had some shots of Jack Daniels to hold me over…

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:30 pm

        😀

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 1:30 pm

      some family history with ulcers. Not good time right now.

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:35 pm

        😦

  166. Nancy Pennington
    04/02/2013 at 1:27 pm

    It seems odd that they would have Travis’ family and JAss in the same room. There are several rooms in the court and probably Juan and Travis’ family out in one discussing whatever is going on.

  167. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:28 pm

    There is now discussion that perhaps there could be a break in the trial and the timing is what they are discussing……………….

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 1:29 pm

      OH good lord … I hope you are right !

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 1:30 pm

        Ditto!!!!!!

  168. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 1:29 pm

    I swear its the Judge. She means well, but she so obviously walks on eggshells, it is easy to see that there will be many openings to stretch or crack the focus of the trial.NOT all murder trials are run like this.Appeal courts respect MOST of ALL the lower court rulings. There is great leeway in directing a trial and, unfortunately, Judge Stephens is a newbie and acting very very very cautiously. which is another way of sayiong “without confidence”.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 1:31 pm

      I want Judge Perry – what do you think??

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 1:33 pm

        Just watched an interview he gave and he works 7 days a week, is up at 5, out of the house by 7:30 and usually works every evening. He doesn’t put up with any crap from anyone but is always fair.

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/02/2013 at 1:35 pm

        I did not follow that case. Ive seen good judges and bad judges. one thing I am absolutely sure of is that the pace
        and tempo and flow of a trial comes from the Judge’s control of the proceedings. Not unlike a conductor.

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 1:38 pm

        Good analogy Robert!

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:44 pm

        Well she needs E’s… cos she’s too darn lethargic!

  169. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:31 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I hear someone playing dubstep in the media section. Dubstep is so 2012. It’s all about drum and bass now

    trying to insert some levity here folks! Have no idea what either is 😦

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 1:33 pm

      Techno music. Essentially obnoxious music with no lyrics. Not a fan! – Apologies to anyone who is 🙂

  170. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 1:36 pm

    OMG can we just get onnnnn with this. the waiting is driving me nutzzzz i am now chain-smoking argh

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 1:37 pm

      I’m vaporizing mine, but we’re soulmates

      • truejustice
        04/02/2013 at 1:41 pm

        I dont smoke in the house – and I’m corded …. AAAAHHHHHHH –

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 1:39 pm

      Stop it the 2 of you. That skank is NOT worth lung cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😦 hands on hips

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:40 pm

        rut roh!!! you two have brought out THE stance!!!

      • truejustice
        04/02/2013 at 1:44 pm

        … hanging head ……

      • Moon
        04/02/2013 at 1:54 pm

        lol oops! ty mmd 🙂 i am trying to stop again, i did quit for 10 yrs but had some major stress – the fog rolled in and I started again.

  171. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 1:37 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    I swear if that happens…we have to do something about the inane dragging out of court cases. Perhaps the whole idea of pretending one can be away from all discussion or images of the trial they are judging can be let go as the myth it is.Germany now uses
    professional jurors. Modes of justice change with time. There should be a protection against cruel and unusual punishment when one agrees to serve on a jury.

    That is great to know that Germany has gone to professional juries! I’ve been a proponent of that since the Fl jury was unable to even understand the difference between reasonable doubt and beyond any doubt.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Actually, the other point you made about “pretending one can be away from all discussion and images’ -In civil trials in Az the jurors are now allowed to discuss the trial and testimony from the beginning when they are in the jury room. They had a bill to also pass that for criminal trials but it did not pass.

      Because Az has a law that families can be in any meeting that the defendant attends is not that common and most other states don’t have it.

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/02/2013 at 1:50 pm

        NancyB :
        Actually, the other point you made about “pretending one can be away from all discussion and images’ -In civil trials in

        Az the jurors are now allowed to discuss the trial and testimony from the beginning when they are in the jury room. They had a bill to also pass that for criminal trials but it did not pass.

        Thanks Did not know this. Good to hear people are not just stuck in old ways. In the Netherlands, when one is arrested the papers and press are allowed to print the first name and age of a suspect and have to black out complete images of him or her. They take the innocent until proven guilty seriously, in other words. In America, we say we do, but…

  172. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Syntara :

    was joking;

    • 04/02/2013 at 1:42 pm

      lol! phew! I got worried about you!

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 1:45 pm

      Read it in two recent-captivating small books called CRIME and GUILT by a German defense attorney (von Schirach) and he describes some cases ,in very brief essays which are a mixture of Hitchcock and Beckett and, I dunno Dominick Dunne. The idea of the 12 people, somehow being objective and beyond thought or discussion of any item of local interest for months at a time is a stretch. As is the level of understanding for the average person showing up for jury duty in cases involving complex financial cases.

      • 04/02/2013 at 1:52 pm

        Yes it’s all a bit of a stretch. They are just normal peeps it’s kind of ridiculous and idealistic… unrealistic actually to think they can stay in that kind of bubble unless sequestered.

  173. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:40 pm

    hey donchais – how ya holding up?????????? Have you joined Syn with the Vodka???? 😉

  174. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 1:46 pm

    OMG this so called expert is saying that JA’s mother and aunt have been stoic and not showing any emotion. GImme a f**king break!!!! They have showed complete lack of respect for the Alexander family and the court. That apple sure did not fall far from the tree!!!

    • 04/02/2013 at 1:49 pm

      maybe that person thinks the Alexander side is the Ariarses side. Either that or he/she has entered that alternative reality

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 1:53 pm

        Def. alternate reality because she talked about how tremendous the Alexander family has been

  175. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 1:49 pm

    Syntara :Do you see a knife blade shape at the bit pointing to the left… or maybe a gun shape? I see a blade in the left bit that if straightened would be the bottom. But could be happenstance.

    yes, i do notice that, agree that it could be, but if TA really taped the monitor equip my bet is it’s that. but with this whack job we have here .. well who knows??

    • 04/02/2013 at 1:55 pm

      I can see her taping it tom her lower leg which explains why her lower legs are cut off in her nude photo where she is blurred lying on whatever it is she lay on. I went back to check form tape marks on her lower leg and to my surprise… no lower legs visible in the shot. How convenient. Bell bottom pants easyn to hide if taped to lower leg.

      If pulled over by cops for speeding… won’t be found. etc etc,

      • Moon
        04/02/2013 at 1:58 pm

        great point, you may just be on to something

  176. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 1:56 pm

    In heavily publicised cases recently, there ghas been a move away from sequestering and more to accepting the idea that jurors will encounter some aspects of the case, but they take an oath not to let them affect their judgement. Its the way adults should deal with each other. rather than through aged and unenforeceable unrealistic instructions.

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:02 pm

      yah but if it’s gonna lead to a mistrial cos someone used an exit…. something has to be done for usage of that access. Well I woulda thought but maybe that’s too rational

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 2:12 pm

      That sounds good Robert. But we can’t change our system overnight so we have to deal with what we have. Adults can get tainted because they are human. It could even hit them subliminally. In seeking the truth & justice in a DP case like this, everything should be done to shield them from the invariable public activity that will ensue outside the courthouse. The rest is up to them. They may end up being sequestered but I hope not because that makes it so much harder for them. All I’m asking for is a separate entrance for them…the defense team has that.

  177. 04/02/2013 at 2:00 pm

    sheeeeesh.. what could be going on?????

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 2:04 pm

      Chris Stark just tweeted this:

      #JodiArias imo with Travis Family in chambers means plea deal or mistrial

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 2:07 pm

        JM would never accept a plea deal from what I hear. And PLEASE NO to the alternative. The suspense is so stressful!

      • Chrissie A
        04/02/2013 at 2:11 pm

        Agreed, I think we are all spinning wheels at the moment, like little hamsters 🙂

      • 04/02/2013 at 2:09 pm

        Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

        Plea deal from Arias? Or threat of plea deal or mistrial by Arias?

        if that makes sense?

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 2:12 pm

        Yeah but Chrissie because of the victims bill of rights they have to be involved in every aspect of the case. Attorneys are now out of chambers

      • Chrissie A
        04/02/2013 at 2:14 pm

        They are all out now and Arias has been taken back to her cell

  178. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 2:01 pm

    I feel so badly for TA’s family, having to be so close to it. what restraint they have. Extrodinary people God Bless them. and the poor jury… asked to show up early and yet again they hurry up just to wait.
    this is just a shame

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:04 pm

      and if it’s a mistrial??? OML how do they live through it after all theynhave been through with this one??? Surely that’s toooo cruel

  179. LindaLou
    04/02/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Doom & Gloom here. Just had a terrible thought – possible mistrial > maybe 2nd degree plea deal in the works = “no jury will ever convict me”.

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 2:06 pm

      I don’t believe the Juanster would EVER agree to a 2nd degree charge. This has to be the Judge agian. Tiptoeing through the tulips.

      • 04/02/2013 at 2:10 pm

        agreed un less the family wanted it because they can’t face another trial.. that’s the only way I can see it happening.

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 2:47 pm

        Agreed. He would never accept 2nd degree and I’m so glad of that. I believe that a 2nd degree charge would be a travesty of justice. The family is on the record for being of one mind in favor of the death penalty.

  180. Lisa D
    04/02/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Does anyone really believe it could be called a mistrial today?!

  181. WhereIsSHE
    04/02/2013 at 2:06 pm

    NancyB :This grandmother was a hero of sorts to me. His grandmother was the salt of the earth, just an awesome human being and a very strong role model — what a blessing that her life’s work proved to be! She was the cardinal and chief influence that produced the 7 Alexander kids to all succeed in life. Sadly, she died in Dec. 2012 before justice for Travis was achieved. All the siblings that have spoken speak about the strong love they all feel for her but also for their parents and that they look forward to seeing them again in Heaven. Even these meth addicted parents must have made it known to their children how much they were loved even when living in tents or pooping in canisters outside.

    I don’t think the meth-addicted parents were as you might like to believe.
    Travis wrote about his mother. It is not a pretty picture, the way she treated him. It was abusive and horrific. I can’t imagine what he went through as a child. I can’t say how she may have treated his siblings, but he doesn’t feeling as though he, in particular, was somehow singled out for abuse by her.

    Also,as a pro bono child advocate who has seen far too much abuse of innocent children at the hands of their drug-addicted parents (meth, in particular, is the worst), I need to point out that children do not feel loved by parents who place getting high as a priority over providing a real roof and running toilets/showers (and some nutritious food into their tummies) at the very least. Loving a child requires real sacrifice. Providing necessities is a necessary expression of parental love. Just saying kind words (which, I take it, was not even done for Travis by his mother) is entirely insufficient.

    I’m not saying that families who, through no fault of their own, live at or below the povery line are not capable of providing love to their children. They are often out working 3 jobs just to keep some form of shelter and food on the table for their kids. Now that is love.
    But when a parent shooses a drug over the welfare of a child, well… that is abuse/criminal neglect.

    Thank goodness for a loving, caring grandmother who showed Travis and his siblings what real love feels like.I honestly do not buy the psychobabble about Travis’ childhood having had something to do with his relationship with Jodi. I think she was obsessed with getting married and set her obsessive frying pan eyes on him from the moment she first saw him and learned about his position at PPL, etc. And then he took her to Chris and Skye Hughes’ house, which was (is?), by all reports, impressive in size, etc, and I think Jodi thought she foundthe pot of gold at the end of her conjured up and twisted little rainbow.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 3:13 pm

      You are very wise! I haven’t read what Travis wrote about those horrific experiences. (are they on his blog?) It was a thoughtless comment on my part and I’m so glad you’ve responded to correct me. I was basing my comment on a few facebook posts that Tanisha has written, where she speaks about her loving parents and how she looks forward to seeing them and Travis again in Heaven. Also the one picture of Travis in his spider man underpants sitting on the couch with his dad. His father did not appear in that picture to be drug addled, or how I would imagine meth addicts to look. Again, a totally baseless assumption. Tanisha is the sibling closest in age to Travis so I made more incorrect assumptions that Travis and/or all of the siblings had not been abused, which is totally wrong.

      Glad to hear that you don’t ascribe to the baloney about his childhood being connected to why he ended up as Jodi’s victim. It happened entirely because Jodi is a psychopath. And I love the frying pan eyes reference!

      You have nailed it when you said: I think she was obsessed with getting married and set her obsessive frying pan eyes on him from the moment she first saw him and learned about his position at PPL, etc. And then he took her to Chris and Skye Hughes’ house, which was (is?), by all reports, impressive in size, etc, and I think Jodi thought she foundthe pot of gold at the end of her conjured up and twisted little rainbow.
      Just think of each of her previous lovers and it becomes crystal clear what her motivations were.

      You have my greatest admiration for dedicating your life’s work to pro bono child advocacy. I can only imagine that you have seen the dregs of the earth and unimaginable horrors that these children have suffered. They are all very lucky to have you.

  182. 04/02/2013 at 2:06 pm

    I hate this judge Im over this nonsense!!! No offense legal-ese… just layman’s angst here!

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/02/2013 at 2:08 pm

      No! You are right!The system of justice does not belong to one profession, but one profession has a HUGE say over how it is administered. CYA is present as in all bureaucracies.

  183. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:12 pm

    BOTH SIDES EMEREGE FROM CHAMBERS

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:13 pm

      Oh lawd… ***guzzle guzzle guzzle***

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:13 pm

      Thank God – working on an ulcer here 😦

  184. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Martinez and JA seen smiling… sisters look upset — but one was rolling eyes .. JA taken out of court room

  185. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    One of #TravisAlexander sisters appears to have been crying in chambers. She’s now in front row while we await #JodiArias trial

  186. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:14 pm

    chris williams says ta sisters appear to have been crying in chambers

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 2:16 pm

      sorry MMD ftypeing so fast — didnt hit refresh …

  187. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 2:15 pm

    Defense witness, LaViolette is back in courtroom as is #JodiArias

  188. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:16 pm

    Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 1m
    The big screen is lowering. Juan and Flores are talking to each other and have smiles on their faces. Alyce just arrive

  189. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Looks like we’re gonna have court today, she says hopefully………………………

  190. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:17 pm

    FINGERS CROSSED… HERE WE GO

  191. 04/02/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Judge if you pull mistrial stunt Im gonna slap you!!

  192. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:17 pm

    And away we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  193. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 2:18 pm

    this is from the evil one’s my space page that was ref above: Open-Minded, Artistic, Tolerant, Kind, Compassionate, Loving, Approachable, Generous, Healthy, Creative, Prosperous, Strong, Playful, Appreciative, Adventurous, Spiritual, Reflective, Responsible, Reverent. Oh and premeditated murder… love it!! 😉
    you have got to be kidding me!!!

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:22 pm

      alternate reality.

  194. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Sweet RELIEF!

  195. 04/02/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Juror #5 what???

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 2:18 pm

      Has been excused.

  196. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:18 pm

    No mistrial – juror #5 dismissed

  197. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:18 pm

    YAHHHHHH!!!!!!! CHEER !!!!!!!!!!!!! HOOT HOOT !!!!!!!! HOLLAR!!!!!
    MISTRIAL DENIED

  198. katz63md
    04/02/2013 at 2:19 pm

    If HLN says court can begin any minute one more time I’m turning the tv off!!!

    Boy, you all have been busy this past weekend. Scanned through the posts. Too many for me to read otherwise I would have 0 hours for work yesterday. I’ll tell you one t
    hing, taking 4 days off from this really felt good!

  199. 04/02/2013 at 2:19 pm

    OMG I’m shaking!!! If I’m shaking what is the Alexander family doing.. noooooooooo juror excused…. nooo noooooo nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 2:22 pm

      Yep, she got her way again!

      • 04/02/2013 at 2:31 pm

        and thats why the smirk was back! I’m in need of a large supply of re-enforced barf bags!!!!

      • Chrissie A
        04/02/2013 at 2:33 pm

        I’ll post a pic at yours to cheer you up 🙂

      • 04/02/2013 at 2:36 pm

        thanks sweety! 😀

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 2:23 pm

      Samantha and Tanisha do not appear to be happy about this either.

  200. 04/02/2013 at 2:21 pm

    that was my highlight of juror questions! That’s so unfair I’m sooking now!!! 😦

  201. katz63md
    04/02/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Oh look. They are matching again. I wonder if they call each other in the morning and say ‘What color do you want to wear today? I want red. Can we do red? can we? can we? pretty please??!!!’

  202. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Alrighty then, I can now go back to sleep! Wake me when the Juanster is up…wish there was an app for that!!! 🙂

  203. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 2:22 pm

    Ah an approach.. Back to normal 😦

  204. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:22 pm

    ok .. my caps lock back off .. Regained my composure.

    Back to the same old same old… sidebar

  205. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 2:23 pm

    I feel so badly for the family. The family will need support as they go through this difficult week of testimony. of course they do know the intentions of the DT and I have no doubt they are as prepared as they can possibly be for this emotional part of the trial, but it must be gut wrenching. (((((Alexander Family)))))

  206. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Alice B. Toklas on now.God I can’t stand mediocrities. And this utter bs about the email. This phony baloney psychobabble man hater who is stuck on Kate Millet’s Sexual Politics from 1972 and has never left its confines.

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:26 pm

      Alice B toklas ROFL!!!!!!!

  207. 04/02/2013 at 2:24 pm

    Can juror 5 go to media now?? or will she be gagged until after trial ends?

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 2:46 pm

      Same thought I had, they will be all over her – like white on rice!

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 3:18 pm

      YES!!!!!!!

  208. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 2:24 pm

    My heart is breaking for the Alexander family 😦

  209. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 2:24 pm

    Wow, I wonder what went on behind those doors!!
    Was TA’s family back there for sure?

  210. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:24 pm

    I wonder what that skank and her team said so that both sisters and still crying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 2:26 pm

      So sad 😦

  211. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 2:25 pm

    WTF?? This is all hearsay, 3rd party conversations???

  212. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 2:25 pm

    I think the Hugh’s were telling Jodi that just to get rid of her.

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 2:27 pm

      Agreed!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:27 pm

      I agree with you. They later told her to her face that they didn’t like her and she wasn’t welcome in their home and yet she still stayed!!!

  213. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 2:26 pm

    I may have to tune in later to you guys because its very hard for me to watch Gidget and Alice B. Using so little info for a “professional”to come and speak is an outrage. She should be asahmed.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:28 pm

      I don’t blame ya Robert!

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:33 pm

      Robert, I sooo want to flee with you!!!

  214. 04/02/2013 at 2:29 pm

    ok listen up Toklas….. lots guys flirt when in relationships… but do we stab them 27 times and slit their throats, shoot em in the head and dump the body in a shower then go to the media smiling like a cheshire cat and feign innocence and concern.

    NO ………. so….. shut up….. shut UP….. SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 2:30 pm

      LOL

  215. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Plus I hate the way they take everything out of context!!!!!

  216. Lisa M
    04/02/2013 at 2:29 pm

    No mistrial!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:31 pm

      Yup isn’t that great!!!

      • Lisa M
        04/02/2013 at 2:34 pm

        Welcome back MMD. Hope you’re feeling better!

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 2:39 pm

        Thanks Lisa – missed everyone here 🙂

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 2:33 pm

      I know u guys already figured that out. 🙂

  217. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:30 pm

    She just said that she was very sure of what she remembered – translates to I worked so hard all weekend to memorize my testiphony to make sure I say exactly what ya need so I can get paid!!!

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:37 pm

      hahaha!!!

  218. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 2:32 pm

    From the Twit:
    Juror 5’s chair is empty, gap in the middle of the front row now.

  219. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 2:32 pm

    My little pitbull is on FIRE today! He’s not missing a beat.

  220. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:32 pm

    Love it – JM is gonna object to everything Alice in Wonderland says today and Gidget’s questions LOL

  221. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 2:34 pm

    not again! i see another migraine coming on just look at that evil skank

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 2:35 pm

      She is pure evil.

  222. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:34 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 8m
    #JodiArias No gag order on JUROR 5 which means we shall hear from her in media interviews

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 2:36 pm

      That would be very interesting to hear her thoughts..

  223. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 2:37 pm

    I’d like to know the dates(s) on these e-mails from Chris & Sky Hughes, because in very short order, they told Travis he and Jodi could no longer use their home as a rendezvous point, because they did not like Jodi and did not want her around their children or in their home. Eventually, Sky told Jodi flat out they did not like her, her antics, her obsessive behavior toward Travis, and threw her out of the house. Jodi refused to leave, and in fact moved from the living room into the kitchen and just stared everyone down. This was all witnessed and reported by a third party.

    Also, even if the Hughes’s initially liked Jodi, and warned her out of the goodness of her heart to move on because Travis was not a good choice, she chose to stay with him. What’s next — Jodi is going to blame Chris & Sky Hughes for the murder?

    Give me a break!

  224. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Gidget is so damned perky – makes me want to hurl 😦

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:39 pm

      *hands barf bag* here ya go sweets I got a bunch here!

  225. 04/02/2013 at 2:38 pm

    ok anyone who has a minute I need indulgence. I’m thick on this legal stuff as you all are well aware. What did Juror #5 do to get excuses?

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:40 pm

      we don’t know but she is free to talk to the media and let them know

      • Moon
        04/02/2013 at 2:49 pm

        how do we know she is free to talk? i would have thought the judge would inform her not to talk to anyone until the trial is over?? you can bet NG,JVM,DP and the rest from HLN will be chomping at the bit to get her on their shows if indeed she is free to discuss this.

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:07 pm

        ooo goodie! isnshe talking yet??? someone grab her!!

  226. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:39 pm

    my hubby and I had an argument recently… we made up. That does not make me a battered women.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:41 pm

      in JA’s world it would

  227. 04/02/2013 at 2:41 pm

    just a stressing issue makes you go hanibal lector! sheesh we are all in trouble!

    Spider man underpants yeah right… where is the evidence???? She probably got the clothing printed herself

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 2:48 pm

      Yep, wish we knew who made them, wouldn’t it be nice if someone came forward?

  228. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:41 pm

    Oh AL has everything sooooooooooooooooo memorized!!!! I HATE HURLING 😦

  229. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:41 pm

    says JA

  230. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 2:42 pm

    really … she doesnt know what fw is ??

  231. 04/02/2013 at 2:43 pm

    “I don’t know much”…now there’s an admission! LMAO

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 2:48 pm

      LOL!!

  232. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 2:45 pm

    This woman should be tarred and feathered by the woman’s movement.I am trying to get away but the outrage keeps me hanging. She is like something out of a camp night in summer when they foist some adult to talk down to everyone about what they already know,
    Oh OK Alice, great “äpostrophes”are used for “possessiveness” This woman never made this kind of money so she’ll talk till Doomsday. Julia Roberts film. Valentine’s Day. Battered Women.She sounds like the moderator of a high school dating club and she is talking down to all the members stuck listening to how one should älways call after dating”/ God helps us.

    • 04/02/2013 at 2:48 pm

      My connection to live stream dropped out…. not even my wifi can take this crapola

      • Moon
        04/02/2013 at 2:58 pm

        no no no! hurry back to live stream:)

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:48 pm

      She actually admits to not being familiar with emailing. I’m computer illiterate and not on FB or twitter but at least I can send an email. How the hell does she function or is she using carrier pigeon????????????

  233. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:46 pm

    WOw she writes a book to Abe about Travis and they only went out once. Abe HATES her!!!

  234. WhereIsSHE
    04/02/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Here we go. Even in this email to Abe they are now discussing, Jodi is talking about MARRIAGE.
    She was OBSESSED with Travis.

    Here we go, AL interpreting Jodi’s email as something entirely different than what it is.

  235. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 2:48 pm

    She thinks some things are PRIVATE & SACRED AND SHOULD NOT BE SHARED?????

    Exactly what details are encompassed by this thinking? If she is holding something back because of this philosophy, what has she not told us? They participated in virgin sacrifice?

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:34 pm

      yeah like whispering the word fornication while backing up the open garage door to the camera lens. riiiiiight

  236. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 2:48 pm

    Now I feel like I’m in Mayberry and Aunt Bea has been called on the stand to talk about Opie dating Ellen .The whole testimony sounds like goossip over the fence, This Judge. Pathetic

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 2:51 pm

      LOL!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:51 pm

      doesn’t even the bf/gf designations that seem soooooooooo prominent with JA seem a tad dated to you???????????

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:32 pm

      but but but… for most of this time there was no bf gf designation… he couldn’t get rid of the witch!!! siiiiiigh *glug* *glug* *glug* *glug*

  237. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:50 pm

    Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 2m
    Alyce points out that #JodiArias has empathy and thinking about how Travis might feel about her relationship with Abe.

    Boy has she ever been suck in, lock, stock and barrel – never mind that everything is based on lies

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 2:56 pm

      elizabetherwin (cbs5) One line in the email says “I didn’t write this to expound upon my secret worship-Travis-agenda.” Email is written to ex Abe by #JodiArias

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:30 pm

      empathy?????????? Alice has drunk too much potion she’s way down the rabbit hole. Poor luv

  238. WhereIsSHE
    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 3:00 pm

      Thanks WhereIsShe 🙂

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:21 pm

      Thank You 🙂

  239. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 2:52 pm

    MMD, did you touch up a little of Juanny’s grey hair? He’s looking younger today somehow. 🙂

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 2:57 pm

      Just well rested darlin’, well rested 😉

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:00 pm

        Id he had been with me he wouldn’t be well rested I can tell ya!

      • Anna
        04/02/2013 at 3:09 pm

        Syn you got me again! rotf

  240. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 2:55 pm

    CiCis circle ladies — see above for a possible link to view.

  241. Schaeffer
    04/02/2013 at 2:58 pm

    I am not as computer literate as most on here. It has been established Jodi hacked virtually all of Travis’s electronic accounts — bank, social media, etc. — so couldn’t she have fabricated all these e-mails? How did these get admitted into evidence?

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:28 pm

      uep she could easily just log on as him. She often did send texts as if it was him sending them some of his friends have said that so very eaily she could jump on his puter, log into his accounts and send stuff as if it were him.

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 4:10 pm

        Yes Syn, I’ve wondered about that in many instances but I’m confident that both Hughes will clear up all this mess on rebuttal.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 3:42 pm

      They have NOT been admitted into evidence – Certainly Juan is aware of the emails because it was already marked and was discussed in a hearing away from the jury. However, Juan made numerous objections last Wed & today when the ALV was basically giving hearsay evidence about the emails that were not admitted for trial purposes (for the jury to see). I think Wilmott was eliciting or trying to elicit testimony that was beyond what the court had allowed.

      I noticed last week that ALV said that the whole email chain was not included, so I expect Juan to rebut her testimony through cross by talking about the context and perhaps related emails that the witness has not yet seen. Hope that JM points out on cross that “abusive” was her own spin and not stated in the email. He could also bring the author of the email in (Sky Hughes) on rebuttal to explain what the email meant. Also to explain how Nurmi lied to both Hughes.

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 3:44 pm

        But think about it – it doesn’t really matter if the Hughes said he was abusive. I think it’s clear enough from the context (or it will be) that what was meant is that Travis wasn’t treating Jodi very well, and I think there’s some credible evidence that he really didn’t treat Jodi too well at times — but that’s not the same as a pattern of physical or sexual assault, which is what is required for the self defense in a “battered woman” defense. There has been nothing so far that could have led Jodi to have reasonably feared for her life on June 4.

  242. 04/02/2013 at 2:59 pm

    she woke up to him wanting sex? Ever considered it was a dream she woke up from Alice???? huh huh huh?

  243. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 2:59 pm

    Alyce, Alyce, Alyce, all she told you were lies. You are gonna be soooooooooo fried on cross

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 3:01 pm

      Check out Syn’s

  244. Lisa M
    04/02/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Did anyone notice that Jodi seems to be looking over toward Travis’ siblings during court?

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 3:17 pm

      Yes I noticed but more so when the jury was leaving. She paid no attention to the jury just the back, and not her family’s side

  245. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 3:01 pm

    I don’t know who I want to throttle more, AL or Gidget?????????????????????????? It’s a given that I want the needle for JA

  246. 04/02/2013 at 3:01 pm

    who starts having sex with a new partner with anal… seriously. Who???

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 3:06 pm

      RIGHT!!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 3:08 pm

      Only if you’re gay, darlin that’s the only time it’s gonna be at the top of the list

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:15 pm

        I thinks its WOBO thats heavy into anal, I think it’s her preferred access route. Though probably need a map to navigate.

  247. PK
    04/02/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Who knew sex talk could be sooooooo borrrrrring!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 3:08 pm

      I know, I’m sooooooooooooo fed up!

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:10 pm

      LOLOL!!!! that’s funny!

  248. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 3:05 pm

    Does anyone get the impression that her famale lawyer buys ja’s lies – hook line and sinker. I do however get the impression nurmi really isn’t buying her crap..

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 3:09 pm

      Yup and I think Wurmi can’t stand her but yet his specialty is representing pedophiles so ya know she’s gotta be bad!

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:11 pm

      yes I do and I’ve mentioned it b4. It’s sickening isn’t it?

  249. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 3:06 pm

    Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 5m
    Yes I would have to say Juan has died his hair a bit darker. This question has come up numerous times this morning

    Just well rested kids, just well rested 😉

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 3:14 pm

      OMG MMD, you’ve made the news! Well done (well rested my arse, he’s been taking care of you I thought)

  250. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 3:06 pm

    WE’ll see what Abe has to say tonite. Pretty sure he’ll be on Dr.Drew……..

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 3:10 pm

      Oh he’ll be wild. He can’t stand her!

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:12 pm

        grr I misse this Abe thing when my stream went awol * annoyed*

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 4:04 pm

        Syntara – there is a long segment of Abe’s comments on the Dr Drew transcript link that I posted above in reference to Paul Stern loaning her money. You’ll love him!

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:12 pm

      Ha ha, I know Marilyn! As soon as I heard him mentioned, I thought Well, we know one of Dr. Drew’s guests tonight!

  251. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 3:21 pm

    Now Tri color can speak! There is nothing improper about dismissed jurors talking publicly while a trial is in progress. It happens all the time because jurors are not witnesses, lawyers for either side, or parties to a case, so they have no information that can impact the outcome and they retain their first amendment rights once dismissed. This happened once or twice during the Scott Peterson case and also OJ’s trial.

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:00 pm

      cant wait.. can she say if “bad hair” was hers? lol

  252. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 3:22 pm

    This is the first I recall hearing that Jodi stopped Travis from the vag sex when he woke her up. Has anyone heard that before?
    I thought on their sex tape she talked about it in a thrilled sort of way.

    • Nienna
      04/02/2013 at 3:24 pm

      Re: sex tape – She did indeed!

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:24 pm

      no she did say she felt violated.. what a croc.

      Still reckon it was a lucid dream.

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:25 pm

        on sex tapes she said the opposite… on stand she said she felt violated… soz

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:16 pm

      yeah, as usual, she said one thing at one time and another thing at another time. Remember when Juan called her on the fact that you can’t have it both ways (not on this particular point) and she argued with him about it, basically saying yes you can? So black can be black and it can also be white in her world.

  253. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/02/2013 at 3:25 pm


    just watched this on wild about trial site. Second half shows reenacting that is most persuasive.

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:37 pm

      I posted this the other day.. I thought second half was based on erroneous motive so I’ll have to watch it again.

      • 04/02/2013 at 3:41 pm

        nono different vid. scratch above sorry!

    • 04/02/2013 at 3:59 pm

      few min or changes but basically this is pretty much how it must have gone.

      Don’t agree with the knifepoint in shower, he wouldn’t have cooperated he would have lunged for the knife the moment it appeared. it had to be quicker than that.. ie the knife on her once he was seated she pulls it out and stabs in a flash.. there he lunges at her knocks her down and manages to get to basin.

  254. 04/02/2013 at 3:26 pm

    I need help in understanding these emails supposedly from the Hughes people. Can someone who knows about this tell me what these emails are all about – and why they are so contoversial with Juan??? Thanks 🙂

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 4:13 pm

      Hi Allison! Go up to #647 to #450

  255. 04/02/2013 at 3:30 pm

    Just heard, according to Beth Karas that Juror #5 is allowed to speak to the public. They will track her down and hopefully she will speak. Interesting . . .

  256. Suzanne
    04/02/2013 at 3:44 pm

    Hi everyone, I’m new to this blog. I also missed the first half of the trial but I’m really into it now. I feel so very bad for the Alexander family having to sit there and listen to all the crap and lies coming from Jodi and her defense team. I don’t know how they can bear it as I can barely stand listening to it myself. I have a question that I haven’t seen addressed elsewhere. Is there more than one charge against Jodi? Does the jury have a choice of first or second degree murder? I hate to think of Jodi getting off scott free if the jury can’t convict on first degree. I can’t see how they wouldn’t but you just never know what juries are going to do as in the Casey Anthony trial. That verdict made me ill. I myself can see it’s so obvious Jodi is guilty of premeditated murder. I so hope the jury can see it too. Just a word about Juan Martinez. I think he’s great. He really wakes everyone up. However I don’t think he should be signing autographs outside the court room. I remember Casey Anthony’s attorney doing that and it looked like a circus. Thank you.

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:01 pm

      Hi Suzanne

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 4:27 pm

      I think that the jury will be allowed to consider lesser charges. I think they will get instructions on both 2nd degree murder and manslaughter. This has not been determined yet.

      Apparently in AZ, a reckless disregard for life can support a 2nd degree murder charge — so yes, I think there has been evidence (Jodi’s testimony) that would support giving the jury that instruction. And this another reason why I think they were definitely in cahoots with her dreaming/scheming up her entire defense scenario.

      Jodi said she pointed a gun at Travis to stop him but didn’t mean to pull the trigger — that could be the kind of reckless disregard of Murder 2. Then she testified that Travis got so angry AFTER she shot him ….so the whole escalation was never intended, according to JA because she never meant to shoot him in the first place.

      Here and there she throws in that she was afraid for her life because “he had almost killed me before” so there’s your self defense claim I guess.

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 4:44 pm

      There is an “in the alternate” charge of felony murder – someone dying during the commission of a felony – in this case burglary. (burglary = unlawfully entering his house where a crime took place – her ‘right’ to be there is legally revoked once the encounter turn violent) .

      So if the jury finds her innocent of burglary – she walks. if they all agree it is premeditated = guilty of murder 1. If they cant agree on the premeditation they must consider each of the lesser charges of murder.

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 5:09 pm

        So, they have to be unanimous for either the pre med or the felony murder? Are you sure? I thought that if they are divided on both of those 1st degree counts that it’s still guilty and goes on to the penalty phase – so this is wrong???

      • truejustice
        04/02/2013 at 5:19 pm

        NancyB . They only have to be unanimous on the charge of felony murder. For the Murder charges , I am not sure .. I’ll see if I can find the article.

  257. Wendy
    04/02/2013 at 3:46 pm

    So thankful I found you guys. My hubby doesn’t like me talking about the trial so I just read what you guys write and I’m satisfied. 😊

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:02 pm

      jump in any time Wendy 🙂

  258. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 4:00 pm

    I thought that there are rules about defense attorneys and false testimony? I thought that they cannot ask a question to elicit testimony that they know for 100% to be false, but yet it seems to me that in this trial this rule seems to be broken all the time.

    It’s very hard to believe that Jodi came up with everything herself and fooled everyone around her, so Nurmi and Wilmott must have participated and even came up with some of these lies – in this case I’m sure that they will face no sanctions, I hope they lose the respect of the attorneys/judges watchin this trial?

  259. 04/02/2013 at 4:08 pm

    pleas please please can Perky finish with Alice… please. It’s like the same crapola over and over and over and over and…. well you get the idea…. I can’t stand anymore!!

  260. 04/02/2013 at 4:11 pm

    NancyB :
    Syntara – there is a long segment of Abe’s comments on the Dr Drew transcript link that I posted above in reference to Paul Stern loaning her money. You’ll love him!

    okies ta! 😀

  261. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 4:15 pm

    LOL, I just thought of this Marx bros scene where Groucho says, “Is it my imagination or is it getting crowded in here?” If you watch imagine the people in the room are us, and the lady at the end is donchais when she gets home: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZvugebaT6Q

    • LindaLou
      04/02/2013 at 4:44 pm

      ROFL – just watched – this is sooo funny. Hadn’t seen this one before.

  262. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 4:30 pm

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial

    My intel from outside the courtroom tells me that Juror #5 was escorted out and in tears earlier.

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:35 pm

      That sux!!!

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 4:37 pm

        Yeah, you’re right!! That sux!! I think she is young. Can’t imagine sitting on a jury for 3 months +/- and then probably saying something innocently (not thinking) and then probably getting rimmed about it and escorted out of the courthouse.

  263. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 4:31 pm

    glad to hear the excused juror can speak! and no doubt she has a LOT to say. It may take her a day or two to get over this tho, i heard she was sobbing as she left.

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:36 pm

      wow when is it coming back its been gone for ages!!!!!

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 4:38 pm

        sooooo frustrating

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 4:37 pm

      Me too. The judge can’t use a gag order with dismissed jurors! How is it any different then any other person talking about the case publicly? If she is dismissed as a juror she no longer has any obligation to adhere to the admonitions, and theoretically would not be able to talk about the jury’s opinions since they are supposed to have not yet discussed it, she would be like any other member of the public weighing in with her opinion. She is not privy to anything by being a juror that there would be a risk of her revealing, in fact she knows less than what the general public knows about the trial & JA.

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:39 pm

      I think it sux they went after it smells like a witch-hunt to me… sooo wreaks of suspicious co-incidence. Will be in interested in her side of the story when she recovers

      • NancyB
        04/02/2013 at 5:13 pm

        My sentiments in total!

  264. Nienna
    04/02/2013 at 4:39 pm

    And we approach…. AWESOME!

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:41 pm

      siiigh and now it’s the riveting alice and perky show!!!! omg we are only ion June 2007???????? my gosh we still have year to cover???? Noooooooooooooooo

      • Nienna
        04/02/2013 at 4:47 pm

        Gonna be fun!

  265. 04/02/2013 at 4:43 pm

    connected em spiritually yeah right whateva!!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 4:48 pm

      Reflections on the earlier Chamber meet – Juror #5 reportedly left crying, Travis’ sisters crying, Arias walks back into courtroom smiling.

  266. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Wow, can’t believe that all that sex talk actually put me to sleep and I had a nap!!! Guess it was the stress of the wait this morning or else AL literally put me to sleep! Hope it does the same for the jury!

  267. 04/02/2013 at 4:45 pm

    bonded over spirituality – as CCC’s says my @ss!

  268. 04/02/2013 at 4:46 pm

    I need a nap! wake me up MMD!!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 4:56 pm

      ya may as well go back down that rabbit hole, it’s gonna be a long afternoon listening to this bs

  269. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 4:47 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 1h

    #JodiArias ALYCE LIED TO JURY. TA not J “Spiritual Advisor”. THEY r assigned to JA by JA home church = 2 females as well as Home Teachers

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 4:57 pm

      Hope Juan catches that.

  270. 04/02/2013 at 4:48 pm

    it’s about oh Im such a great singer.. so what…narcissism .. Im soooooo talented blah blah blah *fingers down throat*

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 4:49 pm

      here’s your barf bag darlin’………. do you have your foil hat on?????????????

      • 04/02/2013 at 4:50 pm

        Thanks sweety.. right on time!!

  271. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 4:48 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 1h

    #JodiArias the person who TAUGHT MORMONISM to JA – Jason-Missionary- said TRAVIS was NOT apart of J lessons that Jason n other people were

  272. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 4:49 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Alyce gets a few words out each time before Juan throws up an objection. I feel like he should have some sort of a buzzer instead

    Just struck me as funny 🙂

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:52 pm

      yeah connected to her like a mini tazer… gimme dat. Each time she talks crapola Im wanna use it

  273. 04/02/2013 at 4:50 pm

    she looked at his text messages cos she’s a possessive obsessive stalker!!! Helllllooo

  274. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 4:50 pm

    O.T. chris stark ‏@stark3923 1h

    Casey Anthony Rejected By Court In Bid To Overturn Convictions Based On Her Lies | Radar Online: http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/casey-anthony-court-rejects-request-new-hearing-lying-

    Yes!

  275. 04/02/2013 at 4:52 pm

    Juan baby has had enough he’s soooooo over it too

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:20 pm

      Exactly! Juan is objecting to everything– go, Juan! And he definitely did NOT find Ms. LaViolette’s “I need a thesaurus” comment amusing!!!

  276. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 4:53 pm

    Wonder what the common denominator in all these relationships that JA had will guys that she says allegedly cheated?????????????????? duh …………..and she snooped on every single one of them

  277. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 4:53 pm

    How many versions of Jodi’s life will we have heard before this is over!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 4:55 pm

      well, how many days do ya figure that Gidget can stretch this out for???????? 😉

      • Lisa M
        04/02/2013 at 5:23 pm

        Maybe another day at the most? I can’t imagine she’s going to be able to stretch it out through Thursday, unless Jodi has another migraine.

    • 04/02/2013 at 4:58 pm

      How many versions of Jodi’s life are there? 34345566475 so far

  278. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 4:54 pm

    Oh here we go, back to the Law of Attraction – gag!

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:29 pm

      Did LaViolette actually say that the extent of her experience with the Law of Attraction is that she watched the documentary? And yet she can make all these claims about how it influenced Jodi’s behavior. JM should have a field day on this. Also, the comment she made that Jodi couldn’t acknowledge that Travis was “treating her badly” because she interpreted the Law of Attraction as a need to deny the negative just shows how lacking in intelligence Jodi is, if it’s even true!

  279. 04/02/2013 at 4:56 pm

    omg we are back to basing testimony non tv shows OMFG *rabbit hole*

  280. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 4:57 pm

    If you’re thinking with thoughts? WTF, How can you think without them?

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 4:58 pm

      and away she goes ROFL 🙂

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:00 pm

      this is a very good question and Alice will submit her thesis in her dissertation complete with scribble graphs and clips from Dr Oz

      • Chrissie A
        04/02/2013 at 5:07 pm

        LOL! Still hoping he will release that as a print, I’m jealous

  281. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 4:57 pm

    oh great, she’s basing her testimony on a documentary – where’s Robert – he’s gotta hear this!!!!

  282. katz63md
    04/02/2013 at 4:58 pm

    So, apparently the only thing you have to do to be an ‘expert’ witness is to watch documentaries, movies and to read articles. Wow, guess I’ll change my profession. Getting subscriptions to Time, Newsweek and NetFlix!!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 4:59 pm

      Looks like it katz – remember Dr. Quack and his Time Mag article LOL

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:01 pm

      yep

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:30 pm

      LOL Don’t forget a subscription to Entertainment Weekly and People Magazine!

  283. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 4:59 pm

    By following this law, Jodi should just strap herself down now!!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:00 pm

      well I do have the chair all cranked up and ready Marilyn 😉

  284. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 4:59 pm

    i cannot believe that they are actually discussing LOA…. hahahah what she puts out hahahahahha unnnnnnnnnnreal

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:01 pm

      obviously what she put out didn’t work or she wouldn’t be at the defense table LOL

  285. 04/02/2013 at 5:02 pm

    ok they are broken up and 100s miles apart…….. if she was so unhappy in the relationship why didn’t it end there????????????????????????????? *glug* *glug* *glug* *glug*

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:03 pm

      hey please share 🙂

      • 04/02/2013 at 5:05 pm

        hahah you are still recoverring shoosh you!

  286. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:02 pm

    I’m so tired of Gidget getting AL to repeat each answer – the jury is right there – they’re NOT stupid OR deaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  287. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:06 pm

    yeah and that thesaurus reference is not practiced……….

  288. 04/02/2013 at 5:07 pm

    she’s out of the damn relationship… she’s obsessed!!!!! ommfg Robert if I have to suffer this you should too!

    The law of attraction my @ss…. doppelgänger!!

  289. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 5:07 pm

    I just gotta say, they couldn’t have found a butt uglier sweater for Jodi to wear today !!!😜

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:09 pm

      and you have to admit, it takes alot to look bad when you’re sitting next to Wurmi!

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:11 pm

      it’s certainly an unfortunate choice

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:32 pm

      I think she’s worn it before too. I’ve noticed her repeating outfits. Well, I guess you’d have to after being in court for this long, and especially when you have no clothes of your own!

  290. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:07 pm

    I don’t know about anybody else but even with all I went through, I NEVER would have violated someone’s privacy like that.

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:38 pm

      That’s because you’re normal!

  291. SCK
    04/02/2013 at 5:08 pm

    This testiphony has my stomach in a twist!! How the hell does she know what Travis was thinking/saying??? This is all “bu**sh** from the Twit!!!

  292. 04/02/2013 at 5:09 pm

    the defenses strategy is to bore the jury to death and cause a mistrial

    • Marilyn N
      04/02/2013 at 5:10 pm

      Jodi even looks like her eyes are slowly closing.

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 5:13 pm

        LOL since when has this defense EVER made one ounce of sense????????

    • Marilyn N
      04/02/2013 at 5:11 pm

      The jury is going to “snap” and say they just can’t take it anymore!!!!!

  293. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 5:09 pm

    Money? Now that makes just no sense if she was cleaning his house so he could give her money?!???

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:14 pm

      LOL since when has this defense EVER made one ounce of sense???????? Sorry put this in the wrong place before 😦

  294. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 5:09 pm

    It doesn’t look like Jm will get to start cross today… bummer

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:11 pm

      I bet he won’t get to it this week!

  295. 04/02/2013 at 5:09 pm

    It’s very effective so far

  296. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:11 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    We are in sidebar. It seems like it has been months without a chicken wing or “eeeaaannndd”. Need my fix.

  297. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 5:13 pm

    Jodi has an unusually long neck!!

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:15 pm

      all the better to put a noose around it! sorry couldn’t help it………….

    • katz63md
      04/02/2013 at 5:15 pm

      LOL!

  298. 04/02/2013 at 5:14 pm

    what the hell as this got to do with slitting a man’s throat???? baseball games??? *glug* *glug* *glug* *glug* *glug* *glug* *glug*

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:16 pm

      🙂

  299. katz63md
    04/02/2013 at 5:14 pm

    I soooooo can’t wait till juror #5 gives an interview. I will dvr that one!

    STOP THE SIDEBARS!!!!!

    Wow, after being gone for a few days it sure isn’t hard to get back into the swing of things 🙂

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:17 pm

      katz have you watched the new interrogation videos that everyone else did this weekend or are you as behind as I am?

      • katz63md
        04/02/2013 at 6:32 pm

        Not yet. I hope to get to those tomorrow and Thursday.

  300. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 5:17 pm

    AL even says “JA CONFRONTED TA” that’s what SHE always did. CONFRONT. She so provoked and harrassed TA. this is just bs! notice they are still in 2007. They never can focus on events leading up to Jun4 At this rate it will be next week or month b4 Juan crosses.

    • LindaLou
      04/02/2013 at 5:24 pm

      Oh no Moon, JA would never have confronted TA or anybody else. Per Dr. Quack she had very low self esteem. My butt!

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 5:28 pm

        Exactly LL!!

  301. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:18 pm

    she didn’t have any friends LOL

  302. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 5:18 pm

    I hope that the jury is as pissed off as we are that they are wasting so much of all of our time.

  303. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 5:19 pm

    And she loved every minute of it!!

  304. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:20 pm

    I can’t believe all this crap she is allowed to talk about that is based on pure lies!!!!!!!!!!!!

  305. 04/02/2013 at 5:20 pm

    heesh all I can say if this si then best they can do with travis/wobo relationship….. I don’t see ANYTHING out of the normal to any relationship …… well apart from the fact he couldn’t get rid of the nutjob

  306. 04/02/2013 at 5:21 pm

    whaaaaaaaat whaaat? does she actually believe what she is saying?????

  307. 04/02/2013 at 5:22 pm

    I have lot of friends that I know???????????? this is her expertise? Dr Oz, Docos and friends????????? lmao! sheesh can we have some academic substance or reference plse??? EVA???

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:27 pm

      Syn – she doesn’t have any 😉

  308. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:23 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 3m
    #JodiArias can u imagine what Pros would have done to Dr. Samuels had HE USED MOVIES REFERENCES as a basis for diagnosis n expert opinion

  309. SCK
    04/02/2013 at 5:23 pm

    Come on Juan!! Take this woman down!!!!!

  310. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:24 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 24m
    #JodiAria ALYCE therapist NOT a psychologist NOT a PhD that why Alyce testifies using movie references vs real research studies actual FACTS

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:27 pm

      Aluce is not even a min or league academic. She’s a chat show guest

  311. 04/02/2013 at 5:24 pm

    she lives 100s of miles away she’s not got 6 kids no money and stuck with an abusive husband and desperately trying to find a way to get out. Scared he is going to come after her!

    omg recess omg december Alice is still going to be on the stand with Perky!

  312. PK
    04/02/2013 at 5:28 pm

    Dear Alyce,

    My ex boyfriend disrespected me for the last time despite the fact that I pointed the way to every orifice in my body on repeated occasions, stalked him continually to always be near to him, slashed his tires twice hoping to save him from possibly being in an automobile accident, and made a surprise visit to his house, driving all the way from Northern California to Mesa, Arizona, to give him one final chance to be the man of my dreams for now and all eternity and still he refused to take me to Cancun with him to make up for ever breaking up with me and making me have to express my displeasure with his rejection by luring him into the shower for a bloody photo shoot followed by a final 25 caliber shot to the head to finalize our relationship once and for all. Please tell me that you understand and empathize with my actions and that I was properly justified in defending my insatiable ego as I did so brutally on June 4, 2008.

    Dear Jodi,

    I feel your pain and for $250 per hour to do your self serving research and $300 per hour to rant on and on under oath about how no guy in his right mind would ever have justification to reject you for any reason and, in my professional opinion, any guy who did have the audacity to reject you would be classified under my system of evaluation as physically and mentally abusive.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:31 pm

      This comment needs to be entered as evidence under the defense rules – after all, fair is fair and it’s all true!!!!

      • 04/02/2013 at 5:34 pm

        it’s true so it’s better than anything the defense has presented so far

    • Moon
      04/02/2013 at 5:33 pm

      ty ty PK what a hoot!

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 5:35 pm

      Bravo, PK!

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:37 pm

      …. and don’t forget…… “I still beat you!”

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 5:38 pm

      2 thumbs up.

    • Tracey A
      04/02/2013 at 5:40 pm

      Wow! PK! Perfect!!!

  313. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 5:29 pm

    That evil HO is yanking everyone’s chain.not even 45 min passed. If I were in the jury I would disregard all of AL’s testiphony. I hear retirement is just around the corner. This woman is stuck in the 70s way of thinking eeeek

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:32 pm

      She making her retirement money off this case! 🙂

    • PK
      04/02/2013 at 5:50 pm

      Hey Moon, the 70’s way of thinking for me was kicking ass on the job M-F and gassing up my big block, gas sucking, chick magnet, Corvette convertible and heading from DC to Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, for a full weekend of “sex on the beach” both in liquid and solid form. Now at 70, I truly miss that way of thinking. 😦

  314. 04/02/2013 at 5:32 pm

    Twit
    @msarr

    Maybe if I think hard enough abt #jodiarias being locked up in death row, she’ll get the death penalty. Law of attraction according to me

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 5:34 pm

      works for me 🙂

      • Moon
        04/02/2013 at 5:42 pm

        ditto!

  315. PAM
    04/02/2013 at 5:33 pm

    Bring on Juan….bring out Juan…if we all chant it enough maybe it will happen…can’t take Gidge anymore. She talks as if everyone else is a moron.

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:35 pm

      Law o attraction.

      Think of Juan questioning her and make it happen.

      • Chrissie A
        04/02/2013 at 5:42 pm

        LOl!!

  316. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:37 pm

    I hereby nominate PK for comment of the Day!!!!!! ALL in favour………… do I hear any nays, and it’s official. PK is OFFICIAL WINNER!!!! 🙂

  317. Lisa M
    04/02/2013 at 5:41 pm

    Do you think today in the judge’s chambers, Travis’ siblings had to be in the closed chambers along with Jodi? They made it sound like that on HLN. I can’t imagine how traumatic it would be for the Alexander family to have to be in such close proximity to her, so I hope it’s not true.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 5:57 pm

      Yes they were. Az has laws that protect the victim’s family and afford them the right to attend any meeting that the defendant attens.

  318. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:45 pm

    Alyce’s education:
    chris stark ‏@stark3923 10m
    @mrjoeywhiskers alyce has an assoc degree as a gym teacher aka assoc degree py ed. fact

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 3m
    @becwaddell no she has a masters based on life experience n volunteer work with victims. im serious

  319. Suzanne
    04/02/2013 at 5:45 pm

    i can’t believe the defense is still questioning this witness. When will Juan get his chance?
    Also, when will the jury be able to submit questions?

  320. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:47 pm

    JA didn’t walk in – she testified that she was looking through the window and ran away!!!! In other words, checking up and spying on him!!!

    Alyce, liar, liar, pants on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  321. 04/02/2013 at 5:48 pm

    I don’t get it… alice has been repeating the same thing over and over in different ways since the first 10 or 20 mins on the stand

  322. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:48 pm

    Hey Tracey ~~~~~ waves~~~~~~

    • Tracey A
      04/02/2013 at 6:20 pm

      Hi MMD ****waves back**** Glad to see you back! How ya feelin’??? Much better I hope!

      Still trying to get caught up (don’t think it’s gonna happen LOL!

  323. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 5:49 pm

    OMG – Gidget sounds almost giddy!!
    Giddy Gidg!!

  324. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 5:50 pm

    By Laviolette herself: (man hater)
    Researchers Agree Women May Hit Their Male Partners, But Infrequently ‘Batter’ Them — Pattern of Coercion Is Seldom Present in Female Aggression
    Alyce LaViolette, 2002
    http://www.AlyceLaViolette.com

    Having said that, I will end by quoting Ola Barnett and myself: “There is no research that can say that the cost of women’s violence — emotionally, physically, or in regard to property damage — in any way matches the violence perpetrated by men.

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 5:54 pm

      Great intel and research proving what we all have heard about her!

  325. 04/02/2013 at 5:50 pm

    who is threatening suicide now???? hitting his head on the wall cos she’s driving him friggin NUTZZ she doesnt want her up there…. as if going up there is going to help him that’s more abuse!!! GTFO would have been appropriate!!! LEAVE!!!

    • Jo
      04/02/2013 at 6:12 pm

      Which speaks to the fact if he were a true abuser, he would have hit JA and NOT bang HIS head against the wall. He was so frustrated with her.

  326. Marilyn N
    04/02/2013 at 5:51 pm

    SHe was so full of empathy, she decided to put him out of his misery!!!

  327. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 5:51 pm

    Hope the jurors are thinking as I, “I wish I could bang my head against the wall right now!”

  328. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:51 pm

    Talk about leading the witness – hey judge, OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!!

    • NancyB
      04/02/2013 at 5:53 pm

      I’m getting my BP up by this constant Hearsay and Leading Sheesh!

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 5:57 pm

        I know – this defense team is bad for your health, according to the Surgeon General

  329. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 5:51 pm

    what movie has banging your head against the wall?

    • 04/02/2013 at 5:53 pm

      LOL!!

  330. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:53 pm

    Syn – please get up there and explain to AL how JA exactly is and how she has NOOOOOOO empathy……………puleeeeeeeeze………………..put us out of our misery 😉

  331. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 5:54 pm

    …think the camera people are about to pass out…they keep going out of focus…

  332. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 5:55 pm

    Dear Alyce

    My name is Dominick Dunne and I died in 2009. Please return my glasses to my coffin.

    Much thanks

    Mr. Dunne

    • PAM
      04/02/2013 at 6:13 pm

      Too funny.. I was thinking Harry Potter but yours is better.

    • Moon
      04/02/2013 at 6:14 pm

      hahahahahhaha….o i love it!!! PMSL

  333. Anna
    04/02/2013 at 5:57 pm

    …inside one juror’s mind….”I want candy!”

  334. 04/02/2013 at 6:01 pm

    exhibit A….. does she show remorse for what she has done? NO she denies it

    = lack of empathy (and conscience)

    exhhibit B…….Sending irises when you are the one who perpetrated the crime of murdering the grandson

    = lack of empathy (and conscience of course)

    exhibit C… interrogation video one.. she is more worried about getting her great photos to the rightful owners than talking about what she did and why

    = lack empathy (and conscience)

    exhibit D…. when asked to give family some closure and explain why she did what she did…. she states she has uploaded a video about Travis to the internet and thinks it’s an appropriate gesture i lieu of an explanation.

    = Lack of empathy

    I could go on and on and on and ON!!!!! As you all know!! 😀

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:06 pm

      Not us darlin’ – explain it to Alyce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 04/02/2013 at 6:08 pm

        I was… by proxy

  335. Wendy
    04/02/2013 at 6:01 pm

    Is it just me or does ms w look rather pleased with herself?

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 6:04 pm

      She does – makes me want to reach out …

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:04 pm

      Yup!

  336. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 6:01 pm

    So Ja feel good after sex. Isn’t that the goal … for most of us.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:04 pm

      can’t remember – in a fog 😦

  337. 04/02/2013 at 6:04 pm

    Alice you have turned from advocate to enabler – be ashamed be VERY ashamed

  338. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 6:04 pm

    I hope Juan asks this nit wit poser if she watched ALL of the unedited Interrogation Videos as part of her phony baloney research besides speaking to the succubus for 40 hrs!

    • Lisa M
      04/02/2013 at 6:12 pm

      Me, too, Nancy!

  339. Chrissie A
    04/02/2013 at 6:05 pm

    Merriam Webster time again for “Rationalization” and “Culpable” I would have been at a loss had that not been explained to me 😛

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:06 pm

      🙂

  340. Moon
    04/02/2013 at 6:06 pm

    OFFS!! let’s see… law of chastity vs murder… hmmm poor HODI feels culpable. they really expect us to take this seriously come onnnnnnnn

  341. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 6:09 pm

    This woman is an absolute disgrace to victims of domestic abuse the way she has whored herself out!!!

  342. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 6:10 pm

    oh, so now she’s quoting AA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  343. 04/02/2013 at 6:10 pm

    OK that’s it I’m outta here this is crapola and I can’t take anymore. cya all tomz

    **** waves****

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 6:12 pm

      … I hear ya… brighter days ahead soon

    • Chrissie A
      04/02/2013 at 6:15 pm

      Bye honey, I’m about to tune out also ~~hugs~~~

    • Moon
      04/02/2013 at 6:21 pm

      *****waves back*** enjoyed your comments today, once again!

  344. PK
    04/02/2013 at 6:11 pm

    Alyce LaViolette Speaking Schedule for April

    4/27/13, COLLABORATIVE PRACTICE CALIFORNIA – Manhattan Beach, CA,
    Luncheon Speaker
    “Is Domestic Violence Always Physical?”
    Contact: CPCalBrochure2013.pdf

    4/26/13, COLLABORATIVE PRACTICE CALIFORNIA – Manhattan Beach, CA, PRE-CONFERENCE INSTITUTES #2
    “Is it Anger or Abuse: Assessing for Intimate Partner Violence”
    Contact: CPCalBrochure2013.pdf

    4/6/13, ABIP Training – Los Angeles
    “Batterers’ Treatment Overview and Intake and the Art of Assessment”
    Contact: Rick Kenworthy (626)316 4100

    Please, Please, Please, DO NOT CANCEL the 4/6/13 speaking engagement in Los Angeles for any reason including the current $300 per hour blah blah blah engagement.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:22 pm

      don’t worry Alyce – she’ll double dip 😦 plus no court those days

  345. Tracey A
    04/02/2013 at 6:16 pm

    Schaeffer These are the 2 videos that I searched hours for yesterday. I should’ve just given a Shout Out to all those more computer savvy (pretty much everybody here) But all credit must be given to Chrissie A, Laine, and LindaLou for this. (I actually did give a shout out on another site and Chrissie A and LindaLou were right on top of things, as usual.

    From Chrissie A (previous post from Day 36)

    Hi guys, can’t seem to find the wizard tonight (or this morning) so I did some checking around for any new stuff relating to the case – Here are 2 well put together new youtube videos titled “Finding Premeditation” Part 1 & Part 2 (Best viewed in full screen) Not only do the videos cover her timeline, they have also narrowed down the areas where she may have dumped the gun, by liking the videos, it is hoped to get sponsors to enable a search of those areas:

    Part one: http://youtu.be/LoQoF-UE6I8

    Part two: http://youtu.be/CskWKO3gW2E

    Schaeffer & Syn – You two had asked me in a previous post about JA’s drive from the Monterey area to Pasadena. Other than JA getting the gas cans from Darrel Brewer (sp) I find this part of her trip rather insignificant. It’s after she leaves Pasadena, that I perked up and followed with a road atlas, when she explains in her first interview with Det. Flores. It made no sense to me at all being all too familiar with this area and route.

    When I saw these videos days ago, it put her trip from Pasadena to Mesa in perspective. These two vids are very significant to me and when you view them, I’ll believe you’ll understand why. The producer of these did a fine job, imo.

    I’ll try to repost after Donchais closes this thread and opens a new one in hopes you don’t miss it. Based on how many posts are here, I believe she will be closing this shortly or soon after her recap.

    Thanks again to Chrissie, Laine and LindaLou! 🙂

  346. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 6:17 pm

    She was isolated because of her own choice to move and her financial limits due to her Job choice. She didn’t get along with her family and she seems to have little to no friends except for man she sleeps with. (I know hard to believe with such a stellar personality) .

  347. Tracey A
    04/02/2013 at 6:17 pm

    Dang it! I’m in Mod….sorry Fearless Leader.

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:23 pm

      Bad girl Tracey 😦

      • Tracey A
        04/02/2013 at 6:36 pm

        I know! Like she doesn’t have enough to deal with. 😦 ***hanging head in shame****

  348. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 6:19 pm

    Bye SYn, Chrissie ~~~~waves~~~~

  349. truejustice
    04/02/2013 at 6:23 pm

    I never anyone say TA felt guilty about trying to find a women other than JA. What I did hear is that he felt guilty for being with JA – and felt that she was unhealthy.

  350. Tracey A
    04/02/2013 at 6:34 pm

    Nite Syn. Sorry I missed ya!

  351. SCK
    04/02/2013 at 6:35 pm

    OH MY GOSH — MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP!!! Someone tell me with certainty that the Alexander family can file a civil lawsuit against everyone who drug that poor man through the mud without ANYTHING to base it on except for her LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • truejustice
      04/02/2013 at 6:38 pm

      They can file a civil suit no matter the outcome. After the OJ trial didn’t the family of the victims win a civil suit against OJ

      • MMD
        04/02/2013 at 6:40 pm

        Yup the family of Ron Goldman did and got a massive judgement. Don’t know about the Brown family.

      • Tracey A
        04/02/2013 at 6:44 pm

        Yes. But he’s paid virtually nothing to them. However, in his desperate attempt to keep his $$$ out of the hands of the Brown/Goldman, he committed armed robbery in NV. (Which I know you all know). Way to go OJ…keep up the good work! You’re a freakin’ genius!! DumbAss!

  352. NancyB
    04/02/2013 at 6:39 pm

    How can she possibly be allowed to interrupt this email from Lisa? This is crap.

  353. Tracey A
    04/02/2013 at 6:40 pm

    Don’t know about you all 😉 but I’m so bored with AL I’m actually getting work done today.!!!! I just can listen to this entire line of crap anymore.

    Maybe, if I scrub my entire kitchen floor with a toothbrush, twice, when I’m done the JuanMeister might be up ****fingers crossed****

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:42 pm

      Can you stretch out that scrubbing til next week??? 😦

      • Tracey A
        04/02/2013 at 6:47 pm

        LMAO! I could possibly stretch it out two weeks but, sadly, I think will still be hearing more of this ridiculous drivel. I know that my ears will “perk” up the minute I hear Miss Perky say “No further questions, Your Honor!”

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 6:53 pm

      Hey Tracey….funny you say that! I learned today that witnesses can induce me to clean house! Ain’t that crazy! 🙂

      • Tracey A
        04/02/2013 at 7:05 pm

        I actually went earlier today and stocked up on groceries. I’m not leaving once Juan is up!

  354. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 6:43 pm

    I truly think that this quackette is what made me sick last week!!!!! Cruel and unusual punishment and uninterrupted lies!!!

  355. MMD
    04/02/2013 at 6:46 pm

    What other women say he needed compliments??????????????

  356. WhereIsSHE
    04/02/2013 at 6:50 pm

    And a jury needs this woman to sit there and give an obviously BIASED interpretation to emails and whisper-down-the-lane tales about what allegedly took place between two people –in a clearly dysfunctional relationship–for what purpose???
    Any person who has been in a “young”/immature relationship in their 20s has sufficient experience to see what the heck was going on between these two.

    Ridiculous.

    HA! Now she is talking about Travis’ relationship with Lisa Andrews! Lisa–who was 10-11 yrs younger– WALKED AWAY from Travis with no problem whatsoever. So where is the alleged “abuser” now, Ms. LaViolette??? Where is the angry, jealous, control freak now, huh???

    Meanwhile.. Jodi was involved with someone 20 YEARS her senior just before Travis, so what’s her point on Travis being 10-11 yrs older than Lisa?? (My darling husband is 10 and 1/2 years my senior and we are as happy as two peas in a pod.

  357. WhereIsSHE
    04/02/2013 at 6:51 pm

    The only thing that concerns me right now is what took place in chambers earlier today that would have Travis’ sisters in tears and Jodi smirking. Anyone have any updates? Facts to share??

    • Tracey A
      04/02/2013 at 6:54 pm

      I wish I did! Or anyone did. That was just disturbing this morning!! But then, what about this trial isn’t???

    • MMD
      04/02/2013 at 6:55 pm

      All I know is that Wurmi and Gidget were both smiles as well and that Juror #5 was escorted from the courthouse in tears. She is free to discuss the trial if she so wishes. She was also a prolific note taker.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/02/2013 at 7:14 pm

      Wondering how the defense came to learn that juror #5 spoke to another juror.

  358. LindaLou
    04/02/2013 at 6:51 pm

    Oh lord make it stop. We’re only up to September 27, 2007.

    • Anna
      04/02/2013 at 6:56 pm

      Cross examination will be like oxygen to our brains! Must hang there….Bring on the magic Juan!

  359. Tracey A
    04/02/2013 at 6:52 pm

    Wow! I just saw Samantha Alexander perform an excellent eye roll. I can’t believe they have to sit and listen this. I don’t know how they do it! {{{{{hugs to Alexander Family}}}}}. Hang in t