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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Forty-Two

04/04/2013

I guess Alyce LaViolette has recovered because court is on for today!  Although the court is packed with attorneys and folks waiting to be sentenced, so read that as we will start late…as usual!

Screen shot 2013-04-04 at 1.27.00 PM Court begins at 10:04   Nurmi wants jury sequestered because the tapes of Jodi parents and copies of Jodi’s diary were released to the media.  Nurmi says the Maricopa attorneys’ office released the diaries.

Martinez says the public attorneys office receives many requests for public records.

Nurmi says its fantasy to believe the jurors aren’t seeing any of this.

Now carping about photographer was at the front door this morning and its possible the jurors were photographed.

Martinez says he doesn’t know how the defense would know what the jury is doing outside of court.

Jurors have been admonished daily and there is no proof the jurors have seen anything in this case so, the motion is denied!

Jury brought in at 10:13 MST.

LaViolette on the stand.Screen shot 2013-04-04 at 1.15.43 PM

March 2008 in a text message to Jodi, Travis invited her over and said make your self at home.

LaViolette says Travis told 2 women about having a stalker.

Did you see any indication from Jodi about being a stalker?

Objection, foundation…sidebar…

Objection overruled and LaViolette says she saw no indication of that behavior from Jodi.

Don’t forget, late March was when Jodi and Travis were ‘official’.

Did you see an email from Travis to Jodi telling her to empty her voicemail?  Yes.

Was he ordering her or asking nicely?

Objection…speculation…sidebar…

Based on your dealings with other men, how did you take Travis’ message?  He was upset and told her to empty the voicemail.

LaViolette saw emails between Chrachelle and Travis.

What was your impression?  They were sexual in nature.  She was vulnerable.  She was married.

Objection…sidebar…

March 30 text message to Jodi and she didn’t respond well…

Objection hearsay, sidebar…

Well this is going well!

In the text messages they were arguing because Jodi hung up on Travis because he was swearing at her.

LaViolette says it shows Jodi was able to set boundaries and her pulling away.

This is absolute torture to sit through.

Based on the text messages, March through April, LaViolette claims Travis’ is escalating the verbal abuse toward Jodi.

When Travis supposedly chokes her and Jodi didn’t fight back it was because she didn’t want to hurt him

Give me break!

Jodi minimized the abuse to protect Travis’ reputation.

April 7 text, Travis is upset and demands to know who the supposed woman was that told her he was in a relationship with Lisa Andrews and the same time he was dating her.  Ho told Jodi to fess up or feel the wrath.  He’d tell her friends about her stalking, and other types of awful behavior.

July 07 through March 08, Travis was in a relationship with Lisa.   Travis told her not to believe anything she heard because it would be false.

LaViolette claims the ‘threats’ were undermining to Jodi because of the violence she had experienced!

This whole testimony doesn’t include the crap Jodi was doing.  All they are doing is trashing Travis’ reputation based on Jodi’s interpretation.

So much of what is in the text messages could be read in many different ways, not necessarily as violent threats!

This is such a waste of everybody’s time!

Willmott continues to go through text messages line by line.

Word has it everybody in court is bored out of their minds!

We’re back to the phone sex tape.  LaViolette say it indicates Jodi hasn’t fully separated from Travis.

Interesting LaViolette says the text messages after Jodi returned to Yreka show that Jodi is being assertive. Didn’t Samuels say there was no assertiveness in Jodi until she was in jail quite a while?

Lunch called…there is a God!

OMG. Jodi watched the jurors leave, turned to Donovan, and then turned back with a smile.  Bet they are going to try and bounce another juror!

Damn, don’t know if I can listen to this drivel for another 3 hours…really don’t believe the defense is gonna let Juan up today!Holy cow! Juror 5 is in the courtroom today! Ahhh, maybe that’s why Jodi looked at Donovan and smiled when court broke for lunch!Court resumes at …(snore) 1:44.

Bleeding from the eyes, ears and nose occurs…not a good thing, right?

Jury in at 1:50.

Willmott asks what character assassination is?  It is severe psychological abuse.

Real assassination is worse than character assassination!

LaViolette says the words of name calling by Travis is important in terms of character assassination.

Damn, the feed dropped.

Did Travis’ mother severely verbally abuse Travis?  Yes.

And does that mean anything to you?  Yes, it is what you learn as a child and how your cope.

In addition to barf bags and tin foil hats, I have now added hip waders to our inventory.  Orders being taken now for immediate shipment!  Inventory limited, so order now!Damn!  My head just hit the keyboard and I have the letters x, c, v, b, n, and m imprinted in my forehead!  Thank god the puddle of drool didn’t short out the keyboard!

ritanita called paramedics to perform a xcvbnmectomy. They’re on the way.  The xcvbn is not a problem, but the m could cause complications.

So boiling the rutabagas, chopping the veggies for the stuffing for the turkey and baking the pumpkin pie, cranberry done…

Afternoon break called!

Finally into June with Jodi arriving at Travis’.

Travis ties her to the bed and Jodi goes to shower.  They decide to look at a dvd of their trips but its scratched and he gets pissed and bends her over the desk and have rough sex.

Jodi goes into the closet for the gun because Travis is threatening her and come at her like a linebacker, then she blocks the painful memories!

OMG, she is parroting Jodi’s testimony!

Her shame caused her to be detached because the media now has the pics of her genitalia, the story of what happened and its all out there now!

ritanita LaViolette isn’t a psychiatrist.  How can she testiphony to the fog…

Willmott is really stumbling around now to drag this out.  Having trouble getting a question out, but LaViolette is managing to babble on.

Do you have any problem with your memory?  No I do not.

Woohoo, Juan up! Juan takes over, it’s brilliant!

Juan grilling her on education.  She does not have a PhD.  She is not qualified to read psychological test!

In the DSM, there is no diagnosis of an abused woman, correct?

Objection, sidebar…

Juan is nailing her about what she does in the 44-hour clinical interview of Jodi.

Mr. Martinez, are you angry with me?

Laughter from the court!

OMG…LaViolette is responding as Jodi did!

You read journals and text messages and your interview with the defendant?  Yes.

There is no guide out there that tells you what indicates an abused person?

Mr. Martinez if you want…

Yes or no?

Objection..sidebar…

Juan is explosive, lol!!!

In the journals you read, was there anything you read that she said anything she said negative about her self?  I don’t know without examples unless you can show me.

Juan is roasting LaViolette.

The only interview you conducted was with the defendant?  Yes.

LaViolettte looking freaked, lol!

Jodi again glances back to Donovan.  This in just too nefarious in my book!

Whole bunch of discussion about LaVoliette’s theory of Snow White being an abused woman!  Golly gee!

The day is called at 4:32 MST.  Back Monday at 9:30am, MST

So folks, don’t bother to watch today’s proceedings…it will only make ya want to set your hair on fire til ya get to the last 40 minutes when Juan takes over, its brilliant!

Folks, I do tend to get a bit silly and absurd during this defense, but never, ever forget this is about JUSTICE and the true VICTIM here!

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  1. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 7:48 pm

    Thank you donchais and ritanita! The heat is Juan, got it blaring and thinking about poor Snow White and ALV bs seminars – one of which she is going to put on tomorrow.

    Golly gee is right! 🙂

  2. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 7:49 pm

    And you are so right! JM is gonna get this trial back on track about the slaughter of TA and away from JA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is the true victim!

  3. donchais
    04/04/2013 at 7:53 pm

    Seriously folks, comments in moderation are so tiresome to search for due to the amount of chatter here, I’ll have to make you folks jump more often…sorry, but you guys are great and many thanks for your support of Travis and his family…luv ya!

  4. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 7:54 pm

    Need this to make up for the abuse that ALV inflicted on Travis, his family and everyone involved!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 8:10 pm

      MMD – Ha! You beat me to it! I was just getting ready to repost this. After trial ended, I had to take a step back and think over the last few minutes. Then, I watched this video and felt rejuvenated!!!! Well done, Girl. Great minds, great minds!! LOL!

    • JesusFreak
      04/05/2013 at 2:39 pm

      darn!!! I am on this site 70% of the time and i had missed this. I am eternally grateful that it got reposted.

  5. 04/04/2013 at 7:55 pm

    Thanks Donchais!!!

    Everybody sing!!!

    OO wo-bo OO wo-bo

    caught up in deception
    Juan is coming after you!

    OO wo-bo OO wo-bo

    The heat is …………..JUAN!!!

    • 04/04/2013 at 8:10 pm

      Right on, catchy tune, go JUAN, I LOVE YOU

      • 04/04/2013 at 8:14 pm

        With special lyrics! Made for us!!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 8:28 pm

      You are too dang funny, Girl! I’m going to listen to this again and sing those lyrics.

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 8:35 pm

      Fits PERFECTLY!! Well done! 😀

      • Tami Marie Bancroft
        04/04/2013 at 11:30 pm

        Awesome job, love the video.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 3:27 am

      I just woke up to read about what I missed. Dang! I gotta see Juan. Gotta see…
      And thanks all for keeping up with the blowhard. and, not to brag or anything, but I was the one who first brought the Heat is Juanto this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dancing away myself right now.

      • 04/05/2013 at 3:29 am

        you were!!! I remember!!! and we LUVS ya for it!!

      • 04/05/2013 at 3:29 am

        did ya like my lyrics? 😀

      • JesusFreak
        04/05/2013 at 2:44 pm

        sooooo glad u brot it. it is awesome. after trial someone needs to send it to juanderful!

  6. 04/04/2013 at 7:55 pm

    Hey, lucky number 5!!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 8:36 pm

      LOL! Sorry Bubble. Didn’t mean to take the coveted spot!

  7. 04/04/2013 at 7:56 pm

    Awww, damnit!

  8. Anonymous
    04/04/2013 at 7:56 pm

    I hope this travesty of a trial, causes changes in the legal system, it’s evident to us all, that this trial, should have been over by now

    • karen c
      04/04/2013 at 8:13 pm

      Hope it causes changes in the education of those who provide counseling for Domestic Violence, survivors & abusers. Hope it causes change, in that any counselors that provide services for government agencies or receive government money through grants are well screened. Insure this by letting your thoughts be known to your local government. You have a say-so about how your tax dollars are spent.

  9. 04/04/2013 at 7:57 pm

    Willy walked her thru all her questions / answers, now she cannot answer Juan on her own. Very telling. Guess this happens when you are coached too much, ya think????

    • 04/04/2013 at 7:59 pm

      zegactly it’s why she looked to Perky every question to ask “what domI saynhere, where is he going withnthis line of questioning?” THIJ!!!

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 8:00 pm

      I definitely think Vickee!

    • Chrissie A
      04/04/2013 at 8:25 pm

      Agreeable Alyce bit the dust in a New York second! I think that by lunch on Monday she will be in the same category as Samuels and then fall even lower, (if that is possible) You’d think the defense would have tried a different strategy, just goes to show what little they have to work with.

      • Tracey A
        04/04/2013 at 9:33 pm

        Just me but I think that ALV has already sunk way lower than Samuels. To portray Travis as the abuser and “Perpetrator of DV”, that did me in. Oh that, and every other word out of her HORRID mouth. LOL! 🙂

      • JesusFreak
        04/05/2013 at 2:47 pm

        doncha think wilnot will spend every moment la toilette is not at her speaking engagement coaching that ‘psychologist’ this weekend?

    • John
      04/04/2013 at 10:06 pm

      Looks like 300 dollars an hour bought the taxpayers in Az. a truckload of BS courtesy of Alyce!!! Maybe she can use some of that money to treat the “seven dwarves” to lunch for their valuable input!!!

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 4:24 pm

        LOL

  10. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 7:59 pm

    Just a little reminder for JA and ALV of what is in store, hopefully for the future. Not to crazy for the music though. Justice for Travis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Nienna
    04/04/2013 at 7:59 pm

    I just got home after running errands and missed my little pitbull!! Wth!

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 8:05 pm

      ya snooze, ya lose darlin’ 😉

      • Nienna
        04/04/2013 at 8:09 pm

        Really?! lol

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:29 am

        Just found that out!!!Yikes. Gotta catch a video.

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/04/2013 at 11:40 pm

      Awesome video, Jody will get truth thrown at her by Juan, and Travis will win in the end. This is only my opinion.

  12. Moon
    04/04/2013 at 8:05 pm

    Ahhhhh there is a GOD!! TY GOD, for providing Juantastic as a guardian for Travis’ heart and soul and justice! Absolutely brilliant!!!! ty ty ty

    • Nienna
      04/04/2013 at 8:09 pm

      Ditto!!!

  13. Marilyn N
    04/04/2013 at 8:05 pm

    I feel unsatisfied! Needed another hour of Juan before the weekend!

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 8:13 pm

      Just keep replaying The Heat is Juan! That’s what I’m doing until he arrives 🙂

      • 04/04/2013 at 8:24 pm

        I posted my lyrics before I saw you posted the clip. So Trace me and yourself all had same idea!

  14. Observer
    04/04/2013 at 8:05 pm

    LaViolette is a man hater. That’s why Wilmott questioned her instead of Nurmi. As soon as Martinez came up to bat, LaViolette looked angry and stiffened up like she was bracing herself for the attack and when he pointed out she didn’t have a Phd. she came on defensive and combative like Jodi did. She is a know it all who is used to being in control with clients. She is also used to being unchallenged. He is challenging her credentials and her diagnosis and she doesn’t like it. He also made a fool out of her by pointing out that she believed Snow White was a battered woman.

    • 04/04/2013 at 8:11 pm

      WOBO’S naturally evasive if she doesn’t know what’s going on. La Toilette is adversarial if she doesn’t know what’s going on.

      She was either told to be (likely) and/or is naturally like that.

      • Chrissie A
        04/04/2013 at 8:53 pm

        I have encountered this type of woman, very blatant and will even approach you if you are with a man – They think they can get away with it as they are women. Very much so a man hater, and I believe not comfortable in her own skin. I think she is probably naturally defensive, but has also been coached by the defense as her reactions to the questions are so similar to Samuels.

      • 04/04/2013 at 9:03 pm

        yes.. coached and a bit of natural tendency even more natural tendency than Dodgeridoo

      • JesusFreak
        04/05/2013 at 3:42 pm

        I wonder if counsel told her to react that way so that the jury would stop and think, maybe he is bad Jodi is not the only one to react in that manner. Just a thot.

      • 04/05/2013 at 4:08 pm

        I think a mixture definitely, same with Dodgy. Just different % of the mix depending on amt of natural tendency for it.

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 9:19 pm

      100% agree! ALV is a man hater. I thought it telling when she said “I don’t want to offend any men, but men love to gain sex and women have sex to gain love”! WTF???

      • Chrissie A
        04/04/2013 at 9:24 pm

        I’m sure we’ll get a few more slip ups like that next week. Trace did you catch her play to the camera at the end of the last question Juan asked her?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 6:41 am

        Did that moron really say that? God help us all.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 3:31 am

      Thanks for this; its helping me cope with 1) the tedium of that gasbag and 2) the fact that I missed the Juanster in action.

      • JesusFreak
        04/05/2013 at 3:46 pm

        Robert Juanderful’s cross should be on Youtube or on the video section of:
        crimeandcourtsnews.blogspot.com

  15. karen c
    04/04/2013 at 8:08 pm

    Question…does anyone here think that Mr. Martinez was too rough on AL? (since on JVM one of the Defense Talking Heads just said that he was being too aggressive & it would ‘turn off’ the jury).

    REALLY??!?! I know, I know…they are just talking to be talking, since they rarely come up with anything truly new to talk about. And, since HLN wants to pretend that they can provide a non- biased viewpoint, they set up these mock arguments between prosecution and defense. I think they could better use their air time. I don’t know how, I’m no TV producer, but I think I’d try, because current format is turning off a lot of viewers. I do understand that they want to try and present a non-biased view, but hey HLN could you try and find an intelligent, educated way to do this. And, I do not mean to say that HLN After Dark would be that intelligent/educated example. That is truly silly and a waste of air time.

    It has been reported that HLN has been experiencing an enormous increase in viewers, but I believe this is truly only because so many people just want a synopsis of the daily trial transcript. There are far too many interruptions of guests who are trying to contribute relevant/interesting information ….interruptions that are done just so the HLN (shows: JVM, NG, Dr. Drew, After Dark) talking heads on staff can proffer their view. Well, guess what HLN talking heads, you are all saying the same thing over & over each night. New guests that are integral to this case would better appeal to those watching. (But, truly relevant guests – not those fake-friends, hangers-on of Travis that seem to appear so often. There are some of Travis’ friends who continue to provide insight into his life and this tragedy. But, there are those who want to present their intuitive, psychic revelations (you know who you are). That I can do without.

    Just venting. After a long day like today with JW & AL, along with Wormi & JA lurking in the bushes….then to listen to stupid stuff on HLN is just too much. (But, I can’t stop watching because of this crazy need to listen to everything about this case, in case I learn something new).

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 8:12 pm

      Darlin’ you’re never gonna learn anything new from HLN – NEVER!!!!! (with the exception of Beth Karas)

    • 04/04/2013 at 8:13 pm

      To keep the snide remarks out for a bit, maybe but then no because Travis has just had his name dragged through the mud. Come on.. someone has to speak up for him! I say GO JUAN and wipe that smugness of bugs bunny!

      • Chrissie A
        04/04/2013 at 8:19 pm

        From previous page:
        SyntaraApr 4, 7:42 pm
        knew would see it that way!

        I lost it when she was seriously discussing the Snow White story and becoming argumentative. BTW juror #5 was very attentive when Juan was up, I think MMD may have some competition – and need I add, in very close proximity 😉

      • 04/04/2013 at 8:22 pm

        hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Good cos J#5 has shown herself to be worthy!

      • Nienna
        04/04/2013 at 8:21 pm

        Rut Roh… Chrissie… Better look out after that one 🙂

      • Douglme
        04/04/2013 at 10:20 pm

        LOL…agreed Syn…well said, I was thinking she was a good resemblance for Bugs as well.

    • Commerce1
      04/04/2013 at 11:04 pm

      HLN is making a fortune off of this case. I truly hope they are donating some of the profits to the Alexander family to cover their expenses in attending the trial each day for months on end.

  16. HJ Madison
    04/04/2013 at 8:15 pm

    Does anyone have a link to 1) Parent interviews with police in total, 2) the 600 pages of JA journal that Good Morning America secured 3) Any of the text messages or instant messages? Thanks!

    • Marilyn N
      04/04/2013 at 8:19 pm

      You can find the parents interview on youtube. Just enter search words Jodi Arias parents
      and scroll to find.

      • 04/04/2013 at 8:32 pm

        Thank You soooooo much Marilyn!!! Watching now.. so revealing. Not wanting her mother to go to Monterrey (sp) cause she might snoop! That girl had a LOT to hide.

      • kristin
        04/04/2013 at 9:02 pm

        Syntara, that whole not wanting her mom in Monterey due to fear she will snoop is the wackiest shit ever. What kind of almost 30 yr old single woman WO kids even fears her mom is snooping!!!!!! And what mother of an almost 30 yr old daughter even gives a shit!!!!!!

      • 04/04/2013 at 10:10 pm

        Kristin, I guess the mother of someone who’s first question to her daughter is “did you have anything to do with it”. Just also tells of her snooping in Travis’ business, only snoops are paranoid about being snooped on.

      • kristin
        04/05/2013 at 12:52 am

        Syntara that makes more sense! I’m an innocent person so my thoughts never went that way. Plus I didn’t know Monterey was after she killed Travis. Thank you for clearing this up

  17. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 8:16 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    One of the media getting a statement from juror 5. #jodiarias
    pic.twitter.com/k3T6sxACq7

    Really hope she didn’t give a statement!!!

    • Nienna
      04/04/2013 at 8:18 pm

      Hopefully the statement was… “I’ll give a statement after the trial has ended”!

  18. Tracey A
    04/04/2013 at 8:17 pm

    Donchais – Brilliant recap as usual. I said hours ago that I couldn’t wait for your post.

    But most of all, I just really want to thank you, again, for this site! At one point, I was absolutely seething as I watched ALV’s completely disrespectful behavior while Juan was on Cross. So angry, in fact, that I could take my eyes off the trial long enough to post.

    Then I reminded myself that I had this wonderful site and all these great like-minded people to vent with.

    I am so very grateful for what you have done here and all your hard work.

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 8:20 pm

      DITTO 🙂

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 3:34 am

      Ditto ditto ditto

  19. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 8:19 pm

    Comment from Sky Hughes about the relationship between JA and TA courtesy of Chris Stark
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjj74t

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 8:48 pm

      And this is from Dec. 2011. She hadn’t even begun to realize what was coming her way. How creeped out she must feel now! It’s always sad to look back on things you think you should have recognized before. I hope she has let that go and realized that it was something out of her control.

    • LindaLou
      04/04/2013 at 9:30 pm

      The more you read about this girl, the creepier it gets!

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/04/2013 at 11:52 pm

      Wow, I just do not understand how she would brutally murdered Travis the way she did. I have been reading his journal’s this man did not deserve this from Jody.

      • katz63md
        04/05/2013 at 8:41 am

        Hi Tami, where can you get Travis’s journals?

  20. Sam McKee
    04/04/2013 at 8:24 pm

    I absolutely LOVE your comments.. I think the same way. Keep up the good job!

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/05/2013 at 10:35 am

      I found Travis’s journals on a link on this page not only that but I would think you could type it into Google or Bing search engine. Travis shows he is a good Mormon man and very much a child of God. He seems to be a type of man that would lay down his own life to help another individual.

  21. Anna
    04/04/2013 at 8:30 pm

    Donchais said:
    “Folks, I do tend to get a bit silly and absurd during this defense, but never, ever forget this is about JUSTICE and the true VICTIM here!”
    My sentiments exactly. And lady you were on fire yourself today with your recap! I bust a gut when I read this:
    “In addition to barf bags and tin foil hats, I have now added hip waders to our inventory. Orders being taken now for immediate shipment! Inventory limited, so order now!Damn! My head just hit the keyboard and I have the letters x, c, v, b, n, and m imprinted in my forehead! Thank god the puddle of drool didn’t short out the keyboard!”
    Thanks to our heated Juan, or, double-o-Juan (as in 007, James Juan) I think we may survive after all. It was hit or miss for me today until the last 40 minutes. Almost like paramedics arrived at the exact right time, because a long weekend without some Juan time would have been a very bad thing. I’m having so much fun breathing for a change! 🙂

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 8:32 pm

      I’d like to put in my order now for the hip waders although I think the damage has already been done 😦

      • Anna
        04/04/2013 at 8:41 pm

        No, we’re gonna recover, damn it. (I tell myself…) But hip waders are certainly not a bad precautionary idea. You just never know with trials. Up, down, back, forward, vomit, rinse, repeat.

      • JesusFreak
        04/05/2013 at 3:57 pm

        I also want hipwaders. I fear ther is more shittenskee to follow. As long as ther is breath in the defense twosome there is monet to be made and they will go for it.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 3:36 am

      now actually kicking myself (not an easy thing to do) for missing double-o-Juan

      • Anna
        04/05/2013 at 11:15 am

        lol Robert…I love all the phrases that get coined here. My daughter came up with double-o-Juan. That was after I forced her to watch “The Heat is Juan”! Then my husband started coming up with things. So, if you want to try and get your family into da groove, show ’em that video. Worked for me! 🙂

  22. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 8:30 pm

    Chrissie A :
    From previous page:
    SyntaraApr 4, 7:42 pm
    knew would see it that way!
    I lost it when she was seriously discussing the Snow White story and becoming argumentative. BTW juror #5 was very attentive when Juan was up, I think MMD may have some competition – and need I add, in very close proximity

    Now Chrissie you know better than that!!!!!! JM would never have anything to do with a juror from this case past or present. smh

  23. Chrissie A
    04/04/2013 at 8:33 pm

    Brilliant recap Dochais!!! Thank you

    “In addition to barf bags and tin foil hats, I have now added hip waders to our inventory. Orders being taken now for immediate shipment! Inventory limited, so order now!Damn! My head just hit the keyboard and I have the letters x, c, v, b, n, and m imprinted in my forehead! Thank god the puddle of drool didn’t short out the keyboard!

    ritanita called paramedics to perform a xcvbnmectomy. They’re on the way. The xcvbn is not a problem, but the m could cause complications.”

    LMAO!!!!

    Good luck with the M key – heal well as we can’t risk you getting memory problems 😉

    As long as yer 1 key (as in Juan key) is solid we – should all be good to go 🙂

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 8:37 pm

      “As long as yer 1 key (as in Juan key) is solid we – should all be good to go” YES! LOL!

  24. donchais
    04/04/2013 at 8:42 pm

    Think my snark got a bit outta control today, but seriously appreciate you guys for giving Travis and family the dignity and courtesy they deserve! In the words of Braveheart…JUSTICE!!!

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 8:53 pm

      Please rest assured that everyone else’s snark got way more outta control than yours. Just sayin’….it’s not that I mind it but Mom has rep to uphold. We don’t. We’re just the sticky kids out back playing in her playground. She has to answer the front door with neighbor complaints. Anyway, thanks again and ditto: JUSTICE!

      • Anna
        04/04/2013 at 9:12 pm

        sorry…need to clarify that I am one of the “everyone else” here. Not dissin’ on anyone. Trying to say we’re all in the same sinking boat, which hip waders would be ideal for, actually! 🙂

      • Tracey A
        04/04/2013 at 9:29 pm

        No need to clarify!! Good Lord how I love your analogies. Just too damn funny! 😉

      • Anonymous
        04/04/2013 at 10:36 pm

        Dang you are so awesome. I heart you big time, lady!

      • Anna
        04/04/2013 at 10:42 pm

        You are so kind. I heart you big time. [insert emoji of a bouquet of the nicest flowers you can imagine]

      • Anna
        04/05/2013 at 11:16 am

        Hey, how did my last reply here get below Anonymous? It was meant for you, Tracey! I don’t hand out flowers to strangers….

    • JesusFreak
      04/05/2013 at 4:01 pm

      i just wish i was as quick witted and funny as you. you also have a pretty good team here to back u up. Keep it going gang, I will visit this site forever, trial or no trial!

  25. Nancy Pennington
    04/04/2013 at 8:44 pm

    After reading Skye Hughes twitter blog about JA I wonder if JA was headed to So. California with her @ 9mm and knives. She had been thrown out of their house and she may have felt her troubles with Travis were because of them. SCARY thoughts I get.

    • Nienna
      04/04/2013 at 8:45 pm

      I think the same thing!

      • Tracey A
        04/04/2013 at 8:57 pm

        When I read the part about her sneaking in to watch Travis and his new GF sleeping on the bean bag chair, I got the chills. That is just so creepy!!

    • Ginger
      04/04/2013 at 10:13 pm

      I agree with you I always thought she was going to th Hugh’s or Mimi’s since she did not know they were only friends .

    • JesusFreak
      04/05/2013 at 4:05 pm

      i have been wondering who she was going to shoot when she left. Thank God they arrested her!

  26. 04/04/2013 at 8:46 pm

    Character assassination? Really?

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 8:54 pm

      I heard that too and had a WTF moment. Couldn’t believe ALV could utter those words with a straight face.

  27. Moon
    04/04/2013 at 8:48 pm

    when willnot asked toilet lady if she had memory issues, how how the evil one smiled and smirked. juan didn’t bat an eye.
    flores tried warning HODI about Juan… lol serves her right! toilet lady probaby trying to figure out ways to get out of this unless she croaks or has a stroke, there is no way out ooohhh wooo ohhhh

  28. donchais
    04/04/2013 at 8:48 pm

    Feeling a bit sorry for myself, but cannot tell ya how painful the troll comments about Travis are…so, so demented and hurtful!

    • Nienna
      04/04/2013 at 8:50 pm

      Feeling sorry for you too!!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 8:53 pm

      I feel sorry for what you must be reading. How awful. Just read last thread posts, when you get time, and I’m sure you’ll feel better. Just consider the source(s) of what you are reading. Trash, trash nothing but TRASH!!

    • 04/04/2013 at 8:54 pm

      OMG I can only imagine!! Try not to read them… yeah right easier said than done cos you have to scan through them at least! Some poeple are just plain ignorant. Hope you have some good support there with you. 😦

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 8:56 pm

      oh my gosh. sickness knows no boundaries. 😦

    • Moon
      04/04/2013 at 9:00 pm

      grrrr. ss donchais, that you have to be subjected to that. what a shame. Bless you. I am so grateful and thankful that you spare all of us from that crap. JUSTICE FOR TRAVIS this is a case of good vs evil …… and GOOD ALWAYS WINS OVER EVIL. I hope our faith is felt.

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 9:01 pm

      Sending you hugs donchais {{{{{{ }}}}}

    • Chrissie A
      04/04/2013 at 9:01 pm

      That must be awful Donchais, thank you so much for sparing us from them – it must be so disheartening! I am so grateful for you dealing with those that would like to further trash the memory of a wonderful young man and his family. I admire you and thank you for this blog so that we can share our thoughts with like minded peeps who all want Justice for Travis.

    • karen c
      04/04/2013 at 9:04 pm

      Truly feel sad that you have to ‘hear’ such this stuff. Can only say that I have no doubt that the JA followers are either completely out of their minds or they have hearts equally as evil as that of JA.

      It just proves that they are feeling scared because they can see where this is going. The world has united in support of Travis, his friends, and his beloved family. The world has also united to seek justice for Travis, his friends, and his beloved family.

      Donchais, you work tirelessly in this battle & just know that there are so many who appreciate the time and effort that you give in providing a safe, welcoming, intelligent site for us to meet and express our thoughts and opionions.

      Thank you

    • kristin
      04/04/2013 at 9:06 pm

      Hey donchais just remember you are a pacifist….. you are gonna pass a FIST across these trolls faces:)

    • Family of Law
      04/04/2013 at 9:49 pm

      My heart goes out to you Donchais, that must be very painful- I’m horrified that there are people out there who can actually believe that TA was anything but an innocent victim, and a very well loved man. They’re the same kinds of people that become pen pals with convicted murderers. Lost and soulless.
      Thank you for all you do:).

  29. karen c
    04/04/2013 at 8:56 pm

    I just wanted to say that there is totally new evidence discovered today. Heard that it is pure dynamite, will blow up the defense theories. Since we are all alone here in this blog, everyone draw close and I’ll tell you what I learned. It seems that JA began to formulate her plan durning the months of …..

    SORRY, am BS’ing. 🙂 just thought that since the defense is so interested in what the media has to say that maybe I could give them something interesting to chomp on ….but I just couldn’t keep it together to formulate anything.

    Just to clarify, no I didn’t hear/learn of any new evidence.

    • Nienna
      04/04/2013 at 8:59 pm

      LOL. But Snow White & The Huntsman is on tonight. Maybe they can watch that and find something to call a mistrial for.

      • Schaeffer
        04/04/2013 at 11:46 pm

        Nurmi will file motions first thing Monday morning claiming network misconduct, colluding with the prosecution, and prejudicial programming. Will be subpoenaing programming schedules from now till hell freezes over. Will file a motion to compel all Wal Mart stores in the universe to pull all copies of said movie and return to Sheriff Arpaio so the chain gang can smash them, after they sit around in a tent with an internal temperature of 128 degrees. Will then have them ground and served on toast in snack lunches of prisoners going to the courthouse everyday for trials, hearings, motions. Any bets?

  30. 04/04/2013 at 8:58 pm

    Watching the parents interviews Wow! so insightful! These ppl that say she showed no signs throughout her life are so very very short sighted, this video proves the parent had problems withher for a very long time. Verbally abusive towards her mother for example.

    • Chrissie A
      04/04/2013 at 9:39 pm

      I felt really sorry for them and it appears that this trial has aged her mother. They were both in denial, but it also sounds like she used her manipulation on them. I find it interesting that she accused her mother of “snooping thru her stuff” a typical abusers trait is to accuse someone else of doing exactly what they are doing.

      • 04/04/2013 at 9:41 pm

        not only abusers.. manipulators, they hide everything so the lies don’t come out. They snoop through everyone else’s business to get things to manipulate and control others so theyn have to hide everything and they also think cos they do it so does everyone else. Yes sooo tuypical and so telling it’s right there on the vid from both parents

      • Chrissie A
        04/04/2013 at 9:45 pm

        I really want to see these interviews uncut – hopefully someone will be able to pry them away from HLN

      • 04/04/2013 at 9:49 pm

        uyeah.. the one I got was just snippets repeated over and over… O too hopemthe whole interviews are released. Obviously nther’s a reason for them keeping em at his stage. No doubt they have been requested

      • kCruz123
        04/05/2013 at 5:20 am

        At first I couldn’t even imagine why she would think her parents would snoop, or couldnt even imagine what she may have that they might find. Hmmmm; condoms, cigs? Matbe a vibrator? Weed stash? Really, would they care, doubt they think she’s a virgin since she left high school & moved in with her boyfriend and had relationship hopped ever since. Why would they care?
        I think it’s several things: 1) she was embarrassed by them, 2) she had always told so many lies to create her own reality- that she didn’t want anyone around who could cause anything to unravel and (it scares me to think) but 3) she was hiding something that she was afraid for them to see.

        Maybe that it’s just simply that she wanted to always be in control. She left home & had no intention of ever going back. If she hadn’t been so broke & in need, she probably never would have.

    • Schaeffer
      04/05/2013 at 2:14 am

      Well then they damn well should have done something about it before things got this far off the rails. No signs, my ass. She had attacked pets, siblings, and her mother, and probably took a crack at dad a time or two, but was outmatched. What I found revealing was her mother saying that since she came back from the trip, “She was the best she’s ever been. We’ve been getting along great.”

  31. 04/04/2013 at 9:00 pm

    OMG when her mother asked her if she had been to Arizona she said “No” and produced the gas receipts to prove it. Pre-meditation proved right there. She deliberately had no gas receipts .. who prodi=uces gas receipts to convince their mother they didn’t go somewhere? Who?

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 9:16 pm

      Jodi Ann Arias, that’s who!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 3:40 am

      yesyesyesyes

  32. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 9:01 pm

    Just in on HLN – Jodi Arias gets into fight with cell mate!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 9:04 pm

      No WAY!!! Which show???

    • kristin
      04/04/2013 at 9:08 pm

      Her roommate just did what we all wanted to do – slap the living daylights outta JA lol

    • Marilyn N
      04/04/2013 at 9:09 pm

      and she steals & hide pens!

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 9:12 pm

      I saw it on the crawl at the bottom.

  33. karen c
    04/04/2013 at 9:09 pm

    I rhink that is in ref to JA’s disciplinary report from Maricopa Corrections Department:

    “Self defense” is a term Jodi Arias seems to be very familiar with – as RadarOnline.com has learned that the notorious murder defendant has used the excuse to try and wriggle out of even more trouble that she’s gotten into from behind bars since brutally butchering Travis Alexander.

    According to a discipline report obtained by HLN, the 32-year-old femme fatale was embroiled in a fight with her cell mate at the Estrella Jail in Phoenix, Arizona, on July 27, 2009, and when the pair was eventually separated and questioned over the incident, Jodi claimed she was acting in self defense and simply protecting herself from the aggressor

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/jodi-arias-prison-rap-sheet-attacked-cell-mate/

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 9:26 pm

      I saw it on the crawl at the bottom of HLN. I saw that report about the earlier self defense from Radar Online but that was just another of their crappy tabloid reports. They usually have a few facts thrown in along with multiple sources which is their norm. The Enquirer and The Star own all three so usually there are very few facts and ya really gotta dig for those.

    • JesusFreak
      04/05/2013 at 4:14 pm

      dont know how recent but hln reported last night that she had been in 7scrapes with other inmates and they were all over pens. she would steal them and hide them. one was found in her shampoo bottle, etc.

  34. donchais
    04/04/2013 at 9:09 pm

    LMAO…I was just feeling sorry for my self a bit and you kids made it ok for mom to do to that..thx…you guys are the best and so happy you are here…$2 Chuck all around!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 9:15 pm

      WooHoo! $2 Chuck! Cheers!

    • Chrissie A
      04/04/2013 at 9:31 pm

      Excellent!! Cheers Donchais 🙂

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 9:32 pm

      Darlin’ even moms have bad days. 🙂 You’re doing heroic work though and never forget it!!!

    • Family of Law
      04/04/2013 at 10:05 pm

      Where I live, 2$ Chuck is now $3.79 Chuck, and Donchais, you’re worth every penny! Cheers!

  35. MMD
    04/04/2013 at 9:11 pm

    Jim Moret is in for Dr. Drew tonight. I remember way back during the OJ trial when he anchored the coverage for CNN plus did a REAL discussion show with good attorneys at night. He was excellent! I miss those days. 😦

    • karen c
      04/04/2013 at 9:23 pm

      Was just preparing to comment on him. He is kinda funny. Like him.

      • MMD
        04/04/2013 at 9:30 pm

        I like him too. He’s without exception the best when it comes to legal reporting!!! I don’t watch the show he currently hosts, just miss him on CNN.

    • Douglme
      04/04/2013 at 10:41 pm

      Use to watch him, Beth Karas, Jean Casarez, Dan Abrams, etc. during the OJ trial on Court TV. and loved them all. It was the best coverage and they shut it down.

  36. Nancy Pennington
    04/04/2013 at 9:15 pm

    If I paid money for one of bugs bunny’s seminars I would demand a refund.

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 9:27 pm

      Just think of all the truly abused women she whose minds she’s messing with! Truly sad 😦

    • 04/04/2013 at 9:37 pm

      what’s up doc!! *cue bugs face*

      • Family of Law
        04/04/2013 at 10:07 pm

        🐰

      • 04/04/2013 at 10:08 pm

        hahaha!!

  37. Cynthia
    04/04/2013 at 9:16 pm

    Mr Martinez is showing this defense ‘expert’, look not so ‘expert’. Justice for Travis…peace for his family!!

    • 04/04/2013 at 9:39 pm

      LOL Mr Martinez…. Cynthia my dear. We are all on first name basis here with Juan Baby! 😀

      • Tracey A
        04/04/2013 at 9:56 pm

        Good Lord! Here we go again! MMD, either step in or loan me your can of WhoopAss. Thankfully, we’re getting hip waders cuz it’s sure getting deep in here now! 😀

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 8:21 am

        Obviously Cynthia is showing the respect that JM or as Syn would say ‘Juan Baby’ his proper respect. At least someone is 😉 To us he’s already part of the family! ROFL

    • Commerce1
      04/04/2013 at 11:26 pm

      I’m thinking we’re going to need the waders that go up under the armpits before this is all over…………

  38. Nancy Pennington
    04/04/2013 at 9:19 pm

    Does anyone notice how bugs bunny keeps Looking at the defense table????Why???

    • MMD
      04/04/2013 at 9:21 pm

      cause she has no idea what the hell she is supposed to say! LOL She’s trying to blink SOS

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 9:22 pm

      Yup! I even saw the Perkster nodding her head as if to say “That’s right. That’s the way to answer that question. And how during Juan’s cross and a sidebar was called she would look at the Jury and smile like “I got in on that one didn’t ???” That was my take in her BS.

      • Tracey A
        04/04/2013 at 9:23 pm

        er, got *him on that one…

  39. Observer
    04/04/2013 at 9:22 pm

    I think Judge Stephens is too weak. She should never have allowed Juror #5 back in the courtroom. I think the defense could use it in an appeal after she is found guilty, saying Juror #5’s presence in the courtroom influenced the verdict. I know Juror #5 was hurt that the defense kicked her off the jury but I think she should watch the trial at home and get her revenge as soon as the verdict is in by going on every TV show and telling what really happened, what she thinks of Arias and her defense attorneys and even write a book about her experience.

    I also think Judge Stephens should admonish witnesses to respect the court and prosecutor and not argue with Martinez. Instead, she calls a stupid sidebar and dresses down Martinez. If the man hating phony can not stand the heat, she should have stayed out of Juan Martinez’s courtroom.

    • karen c
      04/04/2013 at 9:27 pm

      Agree. Judge Stephens is bending over backwards to accomodate the defense. I understand that this is a DP trial & that she should insure that there is no reason for an Appeal but hey….what about a little bit of discipline? Obviously the JA spectators have no respect for the judge, since they found it appropriate to laugh aloud at AL’s comment.
      I believe that spectators should have been removed.
      I don’t think I even heard the Judge issue any kind of admonition at that time (or at all, to the spectators).

    • Trial watcher
      04/04/2013 at 9:34 pm

      Hi Observer:
      What’s with the Judge,slackest courtroom antics ever in an American trial! The Judge hasn’t had a grip on this from the beginning, over-ruled! How many times have we heard this??
      I am sooooooooooo sick of Alyce, go home and write another version of ‘Snow white”!

    • Ginger
      04/04/2013 at 10:28 pm

      I absolutely agree in the closed doors you can tell Mr.Martinez has a vast knowledge and schools everyone he has been to plenty rodeos unlike Stephens and wurmi being first timers in a death penalty trial.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 3:43 am

      like your thinking Observer

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 8:28 am

      I totally agree with everything you said Observer. I just put a lot of it down to the heavy load the judge has and the weird AZ court hours. I’m glad to see a local who feels the same way I do.

  40. Trial watcher
    04/04/2013 at 9:28 pm

    Juan is kicking old Alyce’s ass and about,”Snow White” the fairy tale!!
    Also i know something about doing time and 7 infractions in 5 years is nothing at all
    and all of JA’s were minor, please do not think I would for one moment defend JA but that is a fact! Having a package of soda crackers is an infraction so take it from there!

  41. Anna
    04/04/2013 at 9:34 pm

    I simply cannot believe how much this trial has effected me. Sure never thought, e.g., my Humor would think of deserting me at a time like this. (Coward!) I think to myself, every viable life this savage witch touches is effected in a negative way. (btw, why is it her cat was the only thing she’d allow to attack her? She actually seemed quite proud of her cat wounds…what’s up with that?)
    I have no idea what kind of puddle I’d be if I was one of Travis’ siblings. I have deep sympathy for anyone who’s ever come to know her (except those like her). Especially Travis, knowing all too well of the horrors she put him through. I wish I’d never heard of her my whole life. This is an alternate-reality show, frickn multi-car wreck that I can’t look away from, that’s messing with everyone’s psyche and….. the witch is enjoying it.
    I will say thank you again to donchais for allowing me to vent here. Who knows where I’d be without this community she’s gathered. It’s like I can open up my front door and scream, “I’m mad as hell and I can’t take this stupid defense anymore” and a ton of people yell back, “I know! Me too!”. Thanks to all of you. I do apologize if my bad gets the best of me sometimes but this femme fatal is like nothing I’ve ever seen before.

    I must express my everlasting hopes and prayers to the Alexander family. I will be thinking of you all for the rest of my life. From the little I’ve been privileged to read, you are a true inspiration to me. I’ve learned what a thankful and sincere family you are. And Travis’ good has been seen by the world. He will be/is so amazed. I sincerely thank you for your light.

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 9:46 pm

      Amen Sista! Another brilliant rant! Love it!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:44 am

        Hey I’d adding to this. Dang right.

    • Janeto
      04/04/2013 at 10:01 pm

      You got that right!!! 100 percent totally agree with you buddy!

    • Ginger
      04/04/2013 at 10:30 pm

      Right with you Anna excellent post!

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 8:37 am

      As always Anna, your stream of consciousness kinda says it all of so many of us! Please don’t ever apologize about “your bad”, JA and entire defense team brings it out in ALL of us. Feelings I didn’t even know I was capable of, like wanting someone to cease to exist.

      But like you darlin’ I am reminded that there is good in this world when I look at the Alexander family who have gone through so much but have maintained such dignity. I also have to look at JM who is surely not putting all this effort and focus into this and every trial for the money. He is one cog trying his sincere best to get justice for all his victims because it is the right thing to do!

  42. Tracey A
    04/04/2013 at 9:41 pm

    OMG! The BF just got home and caught me watching the The Heat is Juan video. He said, “Really!! How many times have you watched that today??”. I said “Not near enough”. He gave me a huge eye roll, walked off shaking his head and mumbling something. Nah! No obsession here! LMAO!

    • 04/04/2013 at 9:54 pm

      hahahaha!!! I know that look!!! I get it all the time!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:46 am

        Well I gave up giving synopsis to the wife.Its takes too long. She accepts that I have..ugh..things that are my own.

      • 04/05/2013 at 3:49 am

        Im surprised she lets you near the puter after your fainting spell the other day!

  43. Tracey A
    04/04/2013 at 9:45 pm

    Chrissie A :
    I’m sure we’ll get a few more slip ups like that next week. Trace did you catch her play to the camera at the end of the last question Juan asked her?

    I caught so much, not sure which one you’re referring to, Girlie. Give me a hint….

    • Chrissie A
      04/04/2013 at 9:55 pm

      I’ll see if I can grab a clip, probably tomorrow though – a friend of ours just came over that is a bit upset so I think I’d better go ~~hugs~~~ talk soon

      • Tracey A
        04/04/2013 at 10:13 pm

        Sorry to hear that. You take care Baby Girl! ~~hugs back~~

      • Janeto
        04/04/2013 at 10:14 pm

        Hi Chrissie!!! I’m sorry about your friend. Glad you are there for her, or him.! BTW, I love all the links, and pict.’s you’ve been posting! You’ve kept me busy keeping my computer “seran wrapped” to protect from the spews! You think by now I would learn not to drink when reading these!! LOL! take care and chat laters…..ttfn!!

  44. 04/04/2013 at 9:51 pm

    Donchais~~just remember; ” a friend will be there behind you, but true friends will be there BESIDE you “. I am surprised you do not vent more often.

  45. Tracey A
    04/04/2013 at 9:52 pm

    kristin :
    Syntara, that whole not wanting her mom in Monterey due to fear she will snoop is the wackiest shit ever. What kind of almost 30 yr old single woman WO kids even fears her mom is snooping!!!!!! And what mother of an almost 30 yr old daughter even gives a shit!!!!!!

    LO!!! Like I said to Syn on her comment about who shows gas receipts to prove where she hasn’t been. Jodi Ann Arias that’s who!

    Love your comment “And what mother of an almost 30 yr old daughter even gives a shit!!!!!!” That has me chuckling! I know my mom wouldn’t give a shit!

    • kristin
      04/04/2013 at 10:15 pm

      Ya man! Maybe because I’m 30 and the day I turned 18 and walked out that front door my mom could care less! Maybe JA is a paranoid schizophrenic? I have zero psychology background! Im sorry but its comical picturing my mom snooping around my house looking for ciggies or condoms heehee!

      • 04/05/2013 at 9:17 am

        No definitely not a paranoid schizo… Just a lot to hide because she’s a pathological liar.

  46. Janeto
    04/04/2013 at 9:52 pm

    HELLO MY PEEPS!!! First off, let me say I’ve missed you guys, Welcome newbies!!!! Let me tell you all……. our mom, donchais, is the BOMB!!!! donchais,,you don’t know how much you are appreciated from us all. You outdid yourself on the coverage today…I was busting a gut!!! (I sure need a pair of those hip waders to go with my tin hat and barf bag!!!) You keep us all safe, keep us laughing when you know we need it, and serious when you need to be! (I for one, think I called you mom first when I told you Anna didn’t like her avatar being like mine.. so I ratted on her!tee hee) so thank you mom for allowing all these fantastic, smart, and funny people to vent when needed, and to play when it’s possible. WE will never forget the main jest of this blog is “calls for justice”, and right now Travis and family needs us more than ever!! We are all here for them!!! MMD, I hope you are feeling better, Chrissie, Anna, Tracey, Syn, TW, and everybody else, you all keep me so up to snuff with all the links! I love “the heat is Juan” remake too!!!!!!! Also the “tea cup” pict. with MMD and her red flannels!!!! LOL!!!!You guys are awesome, and so smart! Everyone of you! I wanted to post about 3 days ago because I had been thinking about something that just “hit me out of nowhere!” But….I see others have beat me to it. Darn it!!!! I’ve been just too busy at work…..I was going to say, I had a weird feeling hit me the other day about where JA was heading when she was arrested. I thought of Chris and Sky Hughes!! We will never know, but that feeling hit me like a ton of bricks!!! Maybe strong intuition, I don’t know, but oh well, you guys already mentioned that, so now it’s old news… Anyhow, wanted to say I’m still around. Just got sick of hearing the BS putting Travis under the bus and needed a much needed break from live stream!! take care for now, and remember MMD…….my hiney butt is still around!!! 🙂

    • 04/04/2013 at 10:02 pm

      Hey Janeto I wondered were you had disappeared to!! Thanks for dropping in 🙂

      • Janeto
        04/04/2013 at 10:06 pm

        Hey Syn, I’ve been reading the comments and keeping up. Just so many comments, too fast and smart for me, I figured I’d give donchais a little break. Lord knows she needs it with this circus of a trial and all the Trolls!!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 10:06 pm

      Janeto!!! Where ya been, Girlfriend??? Going back to read your post now…

      • Janeto
        04/04/2013 at 10:08 pm

        Truthfully, I simply had enough of the bs the defense is dishing out, and needed a break. Besides, being busy at work…Missed you all so much more than needing a break though… 🙂

      • Tracey A
        04/04/2013 at 10:11 pm

        OK, I’m caught up with ya now. At some point, I have to give going back to previous posts. I just gets to be overwhelming.

        But then you miss so many moments of hilarity. It’s freakin’ addictive I tell you!

        So glad you’re back! Missed ya! 😀

      • 04/04/2013 at 10:11 pm

        Fully understand, think we’ve all had enough of it. Good to see you anyhow 😀

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 11:04 pm

      Hi Janeto! Welcome back home! When you said, “Truthfully, I simply had enough of the bs the defense is dishing out, and needed a break.” I thought to myself, why didn’t she stick a prod in me a long time ago? All we really have to do is spend a few hours here to catch up, and thus spare us potential health issues. (cross-eyed emoji here) But most thankfully, and I’m sayin’ this with the sort of sinister Jack Nicholson smile he’d have after saying “you can’t handle the truth,” the Heat Is Juan and we can all breathe a much needed sigh of sane relief. Plus, rebuttal is just over the horizon. In celebration, I baked a cake for the the light side. It’s a carrot cake to help replenish our eyeballs (full of vitamin A). {{{hands out freshly baked plates to all}}}

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 8:44 am

        Ty love my carrot cake 🙂

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 8:42 am

      Janet – I’ve misssssssssssssssssed you. It seems like ages since you’ve been around. I know that you have a small obligation called work but priorities, darlin, priorities 😉 So glad you’re back!!!

      • janeto
        04/05/2013 at 12:23 pm

        I’ve missed u too MMD! It has felt like 4 ever!! Hugs n waves!!!!! I have a question….where did they get all the crap on Travis’s journals & all these women names he supposedly used & “abused?” WTH??? And that he was no virgin when he met WOHO???? This judge needs to tell these “witness experts” they need to have respect for the court!!!!!!!! Especially JM!!!! Damn her anyway!!!

  47. 04/04/2013 at 10:12 pm

    What if Juan asks LaViolette if she has feelings for her client?

    • Janeto
      04/04/2013 at 10:15 pm

      ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! I thought of that right before I read this!! Too funny!!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 10:21 pm

      I can see it now…

      Juan – Do you have feelings towards your client>

      ALV – ****pounds fist on desk**** I BEG YOUR PARDON SIR! ***insert image of Dr. Do Little***

  48. 04/04/2013 at 10:13 pm

    k everyone be good and ctchyas later! ***waves**

    • Janeto
      04/04/2013 at 10:16 pm

      waves back! later “down under”!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 10:23 pm

      LMAO!!! I hear ya. It still throws me.

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 10:24 pm

      Take care Syn. See ya soon!!!

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 11:06 pm

      Nite nite, sweets! Hope you find sweet dream tonite! 🙂

  49. Janeto
    04/04/2013 at 10:18 pm

    @Tracey…I know! I’m not quite use to that since putting up the reply button! Sometimes it’s hard to scroll that far up with so many other comments…..Gives me a….wait for it….. migraine!

    • Tracey A
      04/04/2013 at 10:29 pm

      Hey all – I’m off too for a bit. Take care all. ****waves*****

      • Anna
        04/04/2013 at 11:11 pm

        Nite Trace. See ya soon!

  50. Nancy Pennington
    04/04/2013 at 10:28 pm

    Hopefully the dense defense team does read these blogs because I would like to give a personal message to Wingnut. You really need to go back to your law books and learn how to examine a witness. I’m positive that you could learn something. You are not supposed to bore a jury to death (which you have) by going over every tiny detail not once but twice on your re-direct and then after jury questions, a third time. Hit the high points and move on. Also, your attempts at dragging questions out to kill time to interfere with the prosecutions getting their turn is so pathetic and transparent. I would guess that your law school professors are probably hiding their collective heads and asking themselves how the hell did they ever pass you. With any luck, after this trial is over your bosses with place you where you belong…in night court defending vagrants and drunks. Not sure you could handle those cases but it is as low as you could go and still practice (you need plenty of that) law.YOU ARE PRACTICING LAW LIKE YOU HAVE OCD!!!!!

    • Anonymous
      04/05/2013 at 12:24 am

      And Gidget’s repetitive “Ok”s following witness testiphony are so irritating to hear!
      She was also disrespectful towards the judge today when called out on her misreading the text in front of her.

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 11:45 am

        That drives me nuts, too – “OK” – “all right” – “let me ask you this” – “ok” “all right”!!!

    • 04/05/2013 at 3:46 am

      LOL you tell her NancyP!!!

  51. 04/04/2013 at 10:38 pm

    For some reason I don’t want to puke watching After Dark tonight.

    • 04/04/2013 at 11:00 pm

      That show is pretty poor.

  52. 04/04/2013 at 10:40 pm

    I can totally tell you how I constructed my sandwich at Subway today.

  53. 04/04/2013 at 10:41 pm

    Courtney Love Defense Atty on After Dark

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/04/2013 at 10:57 pm

      Not C Love. It is Holly Hughes an actual defense atty. If you were joking I apologize (smiley face inserted here)

  54. PAM
    04/04/2013 at 11:02 pm

    Courtney Love defense attorney? They all went to the school of nods…do you see all the defense attorneys nodding when one says something they want you to believe is true. Forgive me but I used to do closings when people bought time shares..(I know-it was a very long time ago) and I was told to nod my head constantly when explaining the process. School of nods.

  55. 04/04/2013 at 11:03 pm

    Susan Harper, the bridesmaid knocked out of the way in the scrum to get the bouquet, said, “It really wasn’t that big a deal, it was an accident I caught it…Then my tires were slashed the first time…”

    • Observer
      04/04/2013 at 11:31 pm

      What are you talking about?

    • Moon
      04/05/2013 at 12:11 am

      lolol yup! tff

    • 04/05/2013 at 12:16 am

      Bubble~~are you joshing or serious????

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 11:47 am

      please splain bubble b!

  56. Allison
    04/04/2013 at 11:06 pm

    Did the cross end for the day with a sidebar??? It ended like that on youtube – but did Juan get to finish his Snow White story??

  57. 04/04/2013 at 11:07 pm

    Juror 5 is watching

  58. Wendy
    04/04/2013 at 11:09 pm

    Today while i was listening to the tria (which my husband says I’m obsessed about, and it’s true) my son who is about to graduate from college with a bachelors degree in psychology, started laughing when Juanderful was on cross and said mom he’s making her look so stupid. Finally someone who knows what I’m talking about.
    I love reading everyone’s post on here. I’m really learning a lot. Praying for Travis family. That’s my sons name and I can’t imagine what they are going through. I don’t think I could handle it.

  59. LadyInRed
    04/04/2013 at 11:10 pm

    WOW! Was only able to follow Twitter feed today, and just watched the Juanderful beginning of cross; hope everyone has their tap shoes on for Monday’s staccato dance!!

  60. LadyInRed
    04/04/2013 at 11:25 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Juror 5 is watching

    IMO, the Judge should bar #5 from the courtroom and place her under a gag order until the trial/verdict/sentencing is completed.

    • hottopic08
      04/04/2013 at 11:31 pm

      LadyInRed I totally agree! She needs to go home and stay there, why chance anything that could JEOPARDIZE the trial at this point?

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 11:49 am

      Yes, “IF YOU ARE READING THIS, JUROR #5, STAY HOME NEXT WEEK!!”

      • 04/05/2013 at 12:14 pm

        I think J#5 needs to be allowed in the courtroom. It will help lower the effects of traumatisation. If she is once again thrown out that will compound the effect. I find it unkind to suggest she should be barred from the courtroom unless she speaks out of turn I see no reason to have her excluded.

  61. Nancy Pennington
    04/04/2013 at 11:26 pm

    JA hiding pens in her cell is not trivial. Pens have been used as weapons against guards and other inmates. If any of you have an opportunity to visit a prison they will have a didisplay of weapons taken from inmates. Really frightening what they can use. The only prison I’ve been to on a tour was Folsom outside of Sacramento CA. It was very enlightening

    • 04/05/2013 at 3:38 am

      True NancyP… and she could use them in this way, but I think for wobo it’s as much about tolls of trade as about possible use as a weapon. Both are probably equally relevant in Jodi’s case.

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 11:50 am

      I wonder where she would find the pens if they are not allowed??

  62. hottopic08
    04/04/2013 at 11:26 pm

    Have not caught up on all the posts tonight so if someone mentioned this already, sorry. — On twitter, Cathy Schiffke ‏@honeyrun posted LaViolette: DV expert approached Samantha during break. Is not allowed!!!!! Said she saw her crying, got called out for it. She (Cathy Schiffke) was in court today and said she witnessed this interaction! WOW! AL has some nerve! Can you imagine?

    I was sickened by the DT and AL today. I was so upset I almost lost it! I was screaming at my computer, called JA, JW and LA some really ugly names (oh yes I did, it wasn’t pretty) and my dogs left the room :-/ Had to go apologize to them and hand out some treats – LOL! Was looking forward to JM on cross but think I need a break until Monday so I will be ready to soak in all the Juanderful.

    Off to bed with my tablet and phone to read all of today’s posts! Thanks donchais for today’s recap.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 12:17 am

      Unbelievable behavior. Like she could be so thoughtless and OBTUSE to think for even a mili second that the family would want ANY contact with the conniving, lying, back stabbing likes of her. Yeah, she’s spent countless hours in the last 7 court days testilying under oath and then waltz over to a crying and grieving family member when she was directly responsible for causing a huge amount of their suffering. And that is not to mention the HUGE illegal issues of contact, which she damn well knew of. What a dunce of a human being she is.

      • 04/05/2013 at 3:35 am

        This shows Alice is truly in Wonderland. She thinks Samantha wants her comfort?? After the character assassination she has perpetrated on Travis the last however many days?

        Then backs it up by calling Travis the PERPETRATOR???

        Alice La Toilette needs some serious psychological help!

      • kristin
        04/05/2013 at 2:36 pm

        This comment Xs 1,000!!!!

  63. Schaeffer
    04/04/2013 at 11:28 pm

    Syntara :
    Kristin, I guess the mother of someone who’s first question to her daughter is “did you have anything to do with it”.

    And who answers “No, and I have the receipts to prove it!” Serious non sequitur.

  64. Commerce1
    04/04/2013 at 11:33 pm

    HLN is making a fortune off of this case. I truly hope they are donating some of the profits to the Alexander family to cover their expenses in attending the trial each day for months on end

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 11:49 pm

      Strangely they only metastasize when wild trials are going on. Then they seem to go away until the next one. I liked it better when it was Court TV dedicated to all this stuff, more balanced, and less melodrama, I seem to recall. I’ll never forget the days when CNN covered the OJ trial. I think that’s the trial that got all potential trial junkies started. I’ll never forgive him for that!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:56 am

        I agree with this very much. A Court Tv would have been there for many cases–Spector trial, Dr Murray, CA, and many others that would be underreported but worth looking at. All these talking heads on TV just want their moment of spotlight. Thankfully in Europe I dont have any of those shows to even sneer at. Internet saved my life.

      • Anna
        04/05/2013 at 11:21 am

        Robert, you said, “All these talking heads on TV just want their moment of spotlight”. Yes. And they’re making it painfully obvious as well. Thank goodness for live stream via internet!!

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 12:16 am

      They’re making hay while the sun shines!

    • Commerce1
      04/05/2013 at 12:53 am

      But seriously………this is blood money. I hope they are funneling some of it to Travis’ family to cleanse it.

  65. Anna
    04/04/2013 at 11:38 pm

    Since my main comedic muse is over there sitting in the corner, sucking her thumb and clinging to her stupid worn out teddy bear, (as if,……what a pathetic whiner!) I’m going to post someone else’s humor that I enjoy. If anyone likes Dave Barry (one of my muses-on-the-side, but don’t tell the main one…plz!), and/or knows anything about a colonoscopy (which seems appropriate here…crap, there I go again…ah), this might make you split your side as it did mine: http://www.miamiherald.com/2009/02/11/v-print/427603/dave-barry-a-journey-into-my-colon.html Nothin’ like good comic relief (butt note this is from 2009). Do hope you enjoy, butt if you’re anything at all like me, bring tissues for hysterical-laughter tears! And put that drink down before continuing on, for the love of pity, and for the sake of your keyboard! Fair potential warning to spewers like me. 🙂

    • Moon
      04/05/2013 at 12:31 am

      lolol haven’t finished it yet, i’m laughing too much! much appreciated.

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/05/2013 at 1:58 am

      Anna. Loved the Dave Barry post. Hubby and I laughed until it hurt. Felt so good after the last few days of this stinking def crap. Thanks so much for that. I’m still not having one done tho!!

    • LindaLou
      04/05/2013 at 7:31 am

      Anna, thanks so much for the laugh! I was so loud I woke hubby up. Needless to say, he’s not laughing. Thx again.

  66. Nancy Pennington
    04/04/2013 at 11:46 pm

    We wish all of the talking heads/commentators would stop referring to Ms. Lavatory as an expert. JM proved that she is not qualified to assess or evaluate others.

    My hubby and I have dealt with this group of people many times during the course of our careers. They often present themselves as consultants or trainers, but rarely as experts. This group is mainly comprised people who have developed a “shtick” to either promote a cause or make money. The bottom end of this spectrum, where Ms. Lavatory falls, is comprised of social workers, burned out teachers, wanna be Dr. Phils, etc.

    When a company or government agency perceives a problem (sexual harassment, inappropriate behavior, domestic violence, etc.) they call on one of these people to give a seminar in order to cover their backsides. In most cases, the cheaper the better. The presenter uses this opportunity to sell their books, guide and materials. It’s no surprise that most of her work has been with the police, military and other cultures since these historically have a higher than usual occurrence.

    The main reason that Ms. Lavatory had to take this gig is that with the fiscal crisis that began in 2008, most of her income dried up due to the cutbacks of expenditures. It appears that she has bilked the AZ tax payers out of about $50K and it’s not over.

    We hope this will provide some insight into JM’s possible next attack.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 12:26 am

      You make a valid point about the pens and you and your husband have pegged her appropriately.

    • 04/05/2013 at 3:25 am

      Nancy, I think what further backs up your observations on this is the fact she said the “Was Snow White A battered Woman” title did not in fact represent the nature of the lecture/speech rather it was merely penned as a ‘catchy title” in other words La Toilette is not worried about misrepresenting her audience, merely in drawing them in to rake in the cash.

      • 04/05/2013 at 3:27 am

        [misrepresenting herself to her audience] that should read

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 4:00 am

      Yes. been saying things like this till I’m blue in the face. PK also.If it wasn’t for the government and non-profits and mandatory seminars, this woman would be home telling her kids not to talk loud and that Snow White was battered.

  67. Moon
    04/04/2013 at 11:47 pm

    these talking heads on HLN must’ve taken stupid pills. They are ridiculing Juan for being too agressive and for referencing Snow White. Really? they don’t get the point that just like snow white, all of hodi’s story is A MYTH? are they really that ignorant? Jauntastic knows exactly what he is doing!!

    • Anna
      04/04/2013 at 11:53 pm

      Wow. That’s just sad that they can’t figure out where he’s going with this…I turned off HLN a long time ago, except for Dr. Drew. Thanks for the update.

    • Tracey A
      04/05/2013 at 12:17 am

      Amen! Thinking the same thing Sista! Kudos!

  68. Tracey A
    04/04/2013 at 11:57 pm

    Ok…jumping in here for a moment. Donchais, or anyone else…remind me again who that ever present woman is that sits behind the “defense” table. I know she’s there because this is a DP case, but her behavior today, the smirking, the laughter, etc….is really inappropriate. Is she court appointed?? Just someone, please remind me of who/what/why she is there.

    I’m sorry I got lost in the “fog”. But catching up on Dr. Drew and seeing the recap of Juan, I’m more disgusted than previously stated.

    Still trying to catch up…but the “fog” is rolling in…

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 12:09 am

      Hi Tracy, The woman behind the defense is a mitigation specialist. Here is a link to explain better than I can.😊
      http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/what-is-a-mitigation-specialist-in-a-dea-66616/

      • Tracey A
        04/05/2013 at 12:15 am

        Thank you so much Marilyn!!!! Next question, shouldn’t she be impartial? Based on what I saw today, she is clearly VERY partial.

        I was disgusted by her behavior today.

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 11:41 am

        Tracy – I would think so but you’ll need a legal eagle to answer.

  69. Gracerv7
    04/05/2013 at 12:18 am

    After today’s session I found myself wanting to read some of the scathing reviews on amazon of ALs book to comfort myself ( childish I know but whatever). However, I found instead a Facebook “fan page” of AL where she had a whole 3- count them 1-2-3- fans of her page!! Granted there was no mention of when this page was started up but regardless the lack of support comforted me. The idea of this woman trying to get jodi off (pardon he pun) of this crime turns my stomach!! I pray for justice!

    • Tracey A
      04/05/2013 at 12:26 am

      She’s done! Her career is over. She may think that she’s getting all over Juan but she is so done. My BF and I watched the last of Dr. Drew (I know, I know) tonight and he had many questions. But his one statement was “Why would anyone commit “professional” suicide for an admitted murderer”??? My response was because she’s getting paid $300/hr to do so.

      I’m thinking that anyone who has booked a ticket to her “future” seminars has requested a refund. I would.

      • Anna
        04/05/2013 at 12:47 am

        lol, I was even thinking those seminars might have been cancelled already!

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 11:52 am

        You can also find an abundance of comments below her youtube videos.

    • Moon
      04/05/2013 at 12:52 am

      wow, just went to amazon to check out these reviews… apparently the 3rd edition of this book is set to release april 23. hope they didn’t print too many! have a feeling they aren’t going to be selling many!

    • Carmen
      04/05/2013 at 1:50 pm
  70. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 12:23 am

    the judge should have had her removed right along with the donoman and her gal pals. that was shameful and the judge should have also instructed la toilet about her behavior as well. and she should have done it the moment toilet asked hjuan if he was mad at her! are you kidding me?

    • Tracey A
      04/05/2013 at 12:28 am

      Preaching to the choir here! You are so right! I was downright disgusted! The Judge needs to take control of her courtroom. I’m sick of this. But at least we have Juan to look forward to on Mon.

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 9:15 am

      That was so frustrating. The attorneys ask the questions not the witnesses except in this courtroom. ALV was truly ready to do battle when she first started with JM. Hope she realizes what toast she’ll be when he is through with her. Even her SOS looks to the defense was pathetic. She is such an obvious man-hater and I hope that the jury picked up on that. The courtroom is not the place to push her agenda when she is under cross.

  71. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 12:24 am

    I’m telling all of you these journal entries of JA’s are disturbing. One is from about a week or so prior to the murder and the other is from after she slaughtered Travis.

    http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Arias1.pdf

    http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Arias2.pdf

    Hi Janeto! Glad you had a break and are back.

    • janeto
      04/05/2013 at 8:31 am

      Hey nancyb! Tnx & for the links too! 🙂

    • 04/05/2013 at 9:50 am

      Wow does that show her journal is part of her agenda! Remarkable to have definitive proof with the pages post Travis death after his body is found. Even written in projected persona mode it’s STILL all about her! Not a word about his tragedy or horror of being killed, not a word about wanting to know if he suffered. Even in faking she show’s no conscience or empathy. The idea of either is totally foreign to her. Unbelievable

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 10:33 am

        See, I was wondering the very same thing about the journal being a part of her agenda. And for how long???

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 11:59 am

        I would be interested in an analysis of the handwriting. It is a bit different on the before (slaughter) and after.

      • 04/05/2013 at 12:10 pm

        injured finger/s remember?

    • Family of Law
      04/05/2013 at 11:04 am

      Thank you for posting these Nancy- reading them simply ensures that we’ve all been right, all the while along. JA cannot tell the truth (to save her life). These journals, texts message, sex tape, pictures, IMs, voicemails, etc- ALL prove that she had an agenda to premeditate a murder, and attempt to cover her ass, and defame Travis’s character. Each and everything she did prior and post, had been calculated.

  72. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 12:35 am

    https://twitter.com/josemcyntire/status/319869358438490112/photo/1

    josemcyntire
    ALV recounts more #jodiarias lies while JA likely sketching portraits of TA’s family for Ebay like #GaryAlexander’s pic.twitter.com/2GRYrOaQGh

  73. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 12:37 am

    i started watching this trial on day 2. missed the opening statements, i either had an appt or my granddaughter was here and we were watching “rio” for the umpteenth time. then in early feb my sis asked me to go to reno with her on apr 10th. and i thought well sure, this will be over by then. eeeks! i am already feeling the withdrawals of missing 2 days next week. tg for youbute!

    • Anna
      04/05/2013 at 12:51 am

      ROTFLOL! It’s an illness I think. Hope Syntara can cure us all eventually, but boy, that’s gonna take some time. Take your vegamite vitamins girlie!! (I just know she’s gonna find a way to charge us… 🙂 )

  74. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 12:37 am

    youTUBE even!

  75. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 12:42 am

    Tracey A — Do you have info on what WOBO did in Salinas on 3 June? I have her leaving Darryl’s house for the second time about 10 a.m., maybe a little later since she completed the three banking transactions at 10:15. She went to WalMart and went to a salon, right? Do you know when she left for Pasadena OR when she arrived there? She was in Pasadena making all the gas purchases until about 9 p.m. What did she do all that time since it is about 300 miles? Do you think she was primarily stalling so she would arrive in Mesa in the middle of the night?

    • Tracey A
      04/05/2013 at 12:54 am

      Yup! She got a manicure and a Brazilian wax as I understand it. And bought a gas can that she “supposedly” returned for credit. WalMart rep is on the rebuttal list. Guessing they are going to say they have no record of a gas can return. Did Wobo lie??? Certainly, NOT! That would be a first ***tongue in cheek***

    • Tracey A
      04/05/2013 at 1:01 am

      Hmmm…gonna need to ponder you question here a bit farther…Her gas transactions in Pasadena placed her there around 8pm. Filling the gas cans. I have to research further to find out when she left Salinas…

      She turned her phone off soon after leaving Pasadena with full gas cans cuz we know now that she was headed for Mesa.

      She didn’t have to stall, she just had to turn her phone off so no cell towers were pick her up.

      • Schaeffer
        04/05/2013 at 1:05 am

        I have that nailed down. She left about 9, then returned to Darryl’s to give him the remote control to a DVD player. Speculation is she “traded” the DVD player “stolen” from her grandparents home for the gas cans. The times are nailed down, so either she screwed around in Salinas or Pasadena, to waste time, She said she had to wait for a nail appointment, but 11 hours? Please.

      • Schaeffer
        04/05/2013 at 1:06 am

        She was back at Darryl’s and left again shortly after 10. Forgot to include in the correlating answer.

      • 04/05/2013 at 1:52 am

        ok youn tw now you are where I’ve been wondering about but being totally unfamiliar with the area was unsure what I was seeing.

        Do you see a gaping hole between when she last saw Darryl, got the cans then showed up at Travis’ at allegedly 3 or 4 am on the 4th.

        Where does Matt M live in relation to this? .. and is this the time she claims she slept in her car by the road?

        Been trying to get this stuff clesr in my head for over 2 weeks now.

        Chrissie gave a link to a great timeline well 2 actually. I’m going to recheck those to see if anything is mentioned on them for part of the trip

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 12:03 pm

        When did she color her hair?

      • Houndrancher
        04/05/2013 at 12:05 pm

        I think Hodi arrived in Mesa before 3 am to watch/spy on Travis. Hence needing an unrecognizable car to park down or across the street. She notes that lights go off around 4 am when Travis finishes with computer. But she does not enter his home at that time; she lurks and waits until roommates leave the house that morning. Then when the coast is clear, she backs into driveway and surprises Travis.

  76. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 12:45 am

    if la toilet really approached sam, well what could be the result of that? did someone stop her? she had the gall to call hodi the victim. i loved it this am when juan pointed out how wurmi watching too much tv~ ha~ ever since he and hodi booted off #5, he and hodi constantly observe the jurors. talk about paranoia.

    • 04/05/2013 at 1:29 am

      Her calling Travis the perpetrator did it for me. That woman should be made sit and stare at those crime scene/ autopsy photos until her eyes bleed. To wash her hand of the most important part of the trial makes a mockery of the justice system, the court and the sorrow felt by the Alexander family. For that statement alone, she should be ostracized. OUTRAGEOUS and totally lacing in a shred of humanity.Oh I don’t need to worry about that I wasn’t paid to consider it” JUDAS

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 12:05 pm

        No Kidding!! 🐰 Bunny wabbit is finished!

  77. Tracey A
    04/05/2013 at 12:47 am

    I just had to go back and watch The Heat is Juan again. I so much better now! 😀

  78. Tracey A
    04/05/2013 at 12:50 am

    er, *feel so much better now.

  79. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 12:57 am

    Tanisha Sorenson wrote on the facebook page she’s sometimes posts on the following about Juror #5:

    “I just dont like such negativity about someone who no one knows her intentions, shes a sweet person, and I think we should respect her and not say bad things about her. I wish we could all agree that we want to be positive in seeking Justice for Travis. God bless you all.”

    This was in reference to many negative comments on blogs and media reports that have been directed to Tricolor.

  80. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 1:02 am

    Tanisha also just posted another comment:

    “I really dont agree that Juror 5 meant anything bad from showing up, the sweet girl put so much of her time in to this case and she prob just wants to be there for emotional reasons, I feel bad for her. Its not her fault we were in Chambers. May God bless Juror 5 and her family and I appreciate her duty and the time she spent to see Justice.”

    • Tracey A
      04/05/2013 at 1:11 am

      Note to Tanisha: We are on your side. Juror #5 should not have been dismissed. We are on your side, Tanisha. We all feel bad for #5. This is the evil work of JA and her “family” and donoMan.

  81. kristin
    04/05/2013 at 1:10 am

    Does JA have receipts for her salon visit? Also considering she has a limited income, most salons that offer nail services and Brazilian waxes are up scale. Most run of the mill nail salons only do eyebrows and facial waxes. Something just doesn’t add up to me. Maybe u all can explain why…?

    • Tracey A
      04/05/2013 at 1:16 am

      Good call kristin! Don’t know about receipts from salon. Most things don’t add up here!

    • Schaeffer
      04/05/2013 at 1:19 am

      She admits to having her nails done, but that is it, and I don’t know where. The car rental agent said her hair was blonde, without prompting, and I don’t know why they didn’t ask Darryl what color her hair was when he saw her the morning of the 3rd. And you are right about the price; it’s not like one waltzes into Fantastic Sam’s or Super Cuts and gets a Brazilian! Especially not being a regular client, she would have paid big money for both. But remember, she used to live and work in that area, so she probably had a salon connection, she just hadn’t been there for some time..

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 1:35 am

        Can you believe that Nyrmi had the colossal nerve to show pics of JA with brown hair and reinforce JA’s lie that she had already dyed her hair brown before leaving Mesa?

  82. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 1:11 am

    not sure what to think about # 5. gotta give her kudo’s for wanting her presence there. i certainly can’t fault her for wanting to be there. she has scaraficed and invested her time. We all don’t want to miss any of it, so why would anyone expect that she wants to miss it? and she lives nearby. Lord knows if i lived that close, I would be there everyday! i wish her luck and hope all goes well. now the jury wont have to speculate why she was released … illness, etc. but i am sure they prob already knew that after being ?’d one on one last week.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 10:36 am

      I think many people felt ambivalent but when I saw Tanisha’s comments (posted above) on the facebook page in reference to about 100 nasty comments, to me it was a strong indication that the family, who was in the judge’s chambers, believe that she did NOTHING wrong.

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 12:08 pm

      Juror #5 needs to stay home. It’s not worth the hassle and possible problems for the trial.

  83. Tracey A
    04/05/2013 at 1:18 am

    Ok..I’m off again. Gotta get some zzzzzzzzzzzzzz’s. You guys all ROCK! Just luv this group!

    • Moon
      04/05/2013 at 1:21 am

      nite tracey! ((((hugs)))

  84. 04/05/2013 at 1:19 am

    Kristen; Syntara that makes more sense! I’m an innocent person so my thoughts never went that way. Plus I didn’t know Monterey was after she killed Travis

    Kristen,, Monterey was before/as she met Travis is my understanding. But the not wanting her mother there for fear of snooping, as you pointed, shows something about wobo must have been awry long before she met Travis. Something the so called experts continue to refuse to face up to. It shows snooping/deceit was in Jodi’s nature long before meeting Travis.

    • Anna
      04/05/2013 at 1:33 am

      lol my fairdinkum nice person, you always wake up when I want to go snooze! Then I’m like, I wanna read some more of what Syn has to say…and then hubby comes in all bleary-eyed askin’ if I’m coming to bed soon &…oh ack…sorry, is this being recorded? I want my atty and now. Duh. Cheers, friend down under. 🙂

      • Anna
        04/05/2013 at 1:38 am

        …this post so didn’t land where it should have…nev the less I know you get it. Hopefully.

  85. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 1:22 am

    ~~~waving to syn~~~ was busy reading the amazon reviews on la toilets book! amazon is not showing all the reviews and they probably freaked out by all they have rec’d!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 7:02 am

      I had clicked on a lot fo reviews saying they were helpful. When I wrot emy own they sent oit back to me as “unsuitable” I think it was because I said that LaLa “sucks on the tit of the government”

  86. Family of Law
    04/05/2013 at 1:30 am

    Watching the rerun of NG (yea, yeah, I know!) But, has anyone seen that one of the 600 pages of “unseen” JA’s journal pages said (paraphrasing here) “I had a dream last night about Travis’s murder trial, one was charged with Murder, and one was charged with conspiracy- Is it wrong that I want the murderer to get the needle”? Holy Sh*t! I want to see the entire entry!

    • Moon
      04/05/2013 at 1:36 am

      oh wow i missed that! i want to read all 600 pages. i keep wondering when those will be released and avail to all of us!

      • Family of Law
        04/05/2013 at 1:51 am

        Me too! I hate to say this, but it makes me wonder (again) about the possibility of Matt M’s involvement? Is he the “conspirator” she references? But, hey, in her own handwriting, she clearly says, she wants the murderer to get the needle!

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:10 am

      See see told ya! Her journals do not reflect reality they are what she wishes was reality. This entry (if genuine) proves nothing she writes in there can be relied upon let alone the basis for testimony in court!

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 12:13 pm

        It’s her Snow White fairytale!!🐰🐰🐰

  87. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 1:39 am

    Nurmi and Maria waltzed out of the front doors of the court house 2 days ago and walked right past all of the media trucks and even stopped to talk with some reporters and NO SECURITY guards or details anywhere to be seen. Donchais can verify as I sent her a pic 2 days ago. The defense team are liars and started that whole rumor about death threats that CNN clearly reported was not factual nor is their needing special security details.

    • 04/05/2013 at 3:03 am

      are CNN working in cahoots with the defense? *random thought*

  88. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 1:42 am

    I posted 2 new diary entries – one is from right before she slaughtered Travis – 6 pages
    the other was from June 9th -12th but they are in moderation still. They are disturbing and I can’t wait for all your thoughts on them.

    • Family of Law
      04/05/2013 at 1:55 am

      Hi Nancy:) Where did you post these? Did I miss it somewhere “upstairs”?

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 2:17 am

        They are upstairs still in moderation.

    • Moon
      04/05/2013 at 2:03 am

      where did you find them to post them? i tried finding them last nite on the abcnews site but had no luck.

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 2:19 am

        I found them on the facebook page but now that entire page has been scrubbed and is gone! Odd.

      • 04/05/2013 at 2:55 am

        what the page is scrubbed already and you just found them?? serious?

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:59 am

      omg I want to see these!!

      • 04/05/2013 at 3:01 am

        Did you post links? ifntheyn are scrubbed will we be able to see cached versions? or Did you save to HD and still have copies anyhow? Please tell me they aren’t lost!!

    • Wendy
      04/05/2013 at 9:44 am

      Hey nancy. Thanks for posting those. Did anyone notice on the 10 th shr writes at 3 am then on the 11th says she went to bed at 2:30. I honestly think she made up the majority of her journals.

    • LindaLou
      04/05/2013 at 10:03 am

      Nancy, thanks for posting these. This girl just cannot shut up even in her journal. In the ‘before’ entries she should have just noted that she got her new cell phone and not elaborate what’s on the old one, i.e., Travis’ “scandalous” 10 page text msg. To me it just screams of planning and premeditation. All a set-up if she got caught. Why go on & on with what text messages and recordings are there. She knew the phone was NOT lost. If for some reason the killing of Travis did not go as planned and she was caught, she could always fall back on her pre-planned journal entries, phone texts & recordings. Her constant babbling on in this journal, to me, shows her guilt just like the constant callings to Detective Flores. Isn’t this how most murderers act prior to being arrested? JA’s actions as Det. Flores told her father did not seem right from the start. All I can say about her ‘after’ entries is, she is just full of sh*t! What a sick piece of work!

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 2:40 pm

        excellent! You are a logical person who has insight into her psychopathic connections –

  89. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 1:43 am

    Syn & Tracey A — if she made sure to arrive in Mesa in the middle of the night, with an unknown car, no license plate, and a new hair color, why would she have waltzed out there “sometime after 2 p.m.” to pack her car? Where do you think she really parked? She had to have parked in the garage, don’t you think? I don’t think she would have parked down the street, because again, that defeats the purpose of arriving at 3 a.m. Flores told her a neighbor saw her car at the house, but that was probably just to throw her, because they haven’t actually produced said neighbor. She was taken aback when he said it, though.

    Also, I had a brilliant thought about those damn braids. She didn’t wear them just because they were “hot.” Braided hair is much less likely to shed! I’ve had hair to my waist my entire life, and when it is loose my house, and especially my bedding, looks like I am trying to grow my own mohair clothing! Also, she would NOT want to wash her hair so soon after coloring it. Remember how shocked she was about them finding her hair there? She thought she had gotten rid of it by washing the bedding, and she didn’t leave any of it in the shower. (At least not that we know of.) We’ve already discussed that when she was trying to offer Flores some forensic tips on testing her hair found at the scene, he should have said ‘Well, the hair we found was dyed brown, and you had platinum blonde hair the last time you admit you were there! So, busted!” Braids are less messy, and won’t need to be washed and styled as much as loose hair,

    It is scary how long she was planning this. She is absolutely diabolical!

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 1:49 am

      Where she oarked has always drove me nuts. Surely not in the driveway or garage, right?

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:47 am

      I don’t think she packed her car at all. I think she had minimum things on her to and from the house. Does not make sense she went out and in, she didn’t want to be seen coming or going from that house. Is there actual evidence of this ‘car packing’? I think it’s more when Travis thought she was gone or cleaning… when he got into the shower. I think that’s her ‘car packing’

      Is there evidence of the car packing? Please correct me if there is.

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:54 am

      oooh Schaeffer………… re the braids… omg was she already planning the braids hence the reference to them in the recorded phone sex??? wow now there’s a thought when was that recorded phone sex, what date I am lost on dates sorry!

      Another thing about braids… less likely to leave strands of hair because its not flowing all over the place – YES! Now there’s a thought.. someone asked why she washed the bedding if they didn’t have sex… well in case there was hair or other trace forensics left.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 7:04 am

        I thought the phone sex call was in MAY OF 2008–right before her trip to kill.

      • Schaeffer
        04/05/2013 at 8:14 am

        Also, she had recently dyed her hair, probably in Pasadena or Salinas, wherever she went to the salon. Freshly dyed hair should not be washed for several days, primarily to let the color “set.” She also couldn’t risk washing it because the dye would have deposited in the shower. Another advantage to the braids.

    • kristin
      04/05/2013 at 2:45 pm

      Schaeffer, I think u just had a legally blonde moment there!!! I hope you have seen that movie because your connection with why her hair was braided is brilliant!

  90. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 1:52 am

    would she take the chance of parking in the garage? His roommates had the code and could have seen the car and become suspicious. Why do you think parking down the street defeats the purpose of arriving in the middle of the night?

    • Schaeffer
      04/05/2013 at 1:59 am

      My theory is she wouldn’t have parked on the street, because then she would have to walk up and down the street to get to and from the car, which directly contradicts all the measures she took to come and go unnoticed. It’s a puzzlement, so I’m throwing it out there. This is what some of us do while the sane one’s sleep.

      Nancy, you were wanting the info on her driving routes, weren’t you? Did you get them from me or do you need them again? If you are not the one asking for them, feel free to disregard.

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 2:22 am

        Yes please!

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:33 am

      havent read the rest so forgive me if this has been discussed. She would have parked down the street. The whole idea of the inconspicuous coloured rental car was so nobody noticed she was there. She wouldn’t have parked in the garage for that reason I’d say, or it would defeat the purpose, someone might have noticed a strange car and the police could have traced it back to her later

      • 04/05/2013 at 2:40 am

        the hair dye was part of this… disguise if someone saw her getting into the car down the street she hoped not to be recognised. Maybe this was the turning of the number plate upside down too, in her mind harder to read.. but DOH! seriously yeah harder to read but also way more attention drawing. wth was she thinking when she did that??

        She is just all over the place, something made her panic enough to do that, it was not part of the original plan. All the original plan was well thought out, all the things that panicked her she made really bad decisions about.

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 12:21 pm

        JA told Flores that the neighbors would not have recognized her (if they saw her and Flores said they saw her) because they only knew her with platinum blonde hair. On the initial
        interrogation videos.

      • 04/05/2013 at 12:25 pm

        I think flores was bluffing then… and Jodi by revealing the dyed hair and them not knowing her.. tells that she was confident in her ruse.

  91. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 2:02 am

    i think she parked right in the driveway! it wasn’t “her” car. she had different hair color. i think she backed up in the driveway so the front of the car (with no license plate) was visible from the street.

  92. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 2:08 am

    Syn — have you ever worked with/done research on incarcerated individuals and/or those committed to mental institutions?

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:16 am

      yes I have a lot of my research has been done on inmates here in WA. Though we tend not to have the levels of crimes and types of crimes you have over there. However we DO have them just very rare. The Birnie’s are the closest to this type of crime we have had in the last 20+ years. There was also an horrific murder in Geraldton about 600kms from here and one serial killer that has disappeared and never been heard of since back in the 90s.

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:28 am

      mental institutions not so much, I’m not drawn to psychosis. My area is more studying the behaviour of the general population, motivation, MO, techniques used that kind of thing. Basically looking inside peoples heads and reading their operation manual for want of a better description.

  93. Anna
    04/05/2013 at 2:08 am

    Night all! I’ll be dreaming of a Juanderful Monday. (wishing anything happy on a Monday is unusual for me…I must be giddy…)

    • Schaeffer
      04/05/2013 at 2:09 am

      nite

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:11 am

      niiight Anna *waves* 😀

  94. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 2:16 am

    Is it normal for the mitigation specialist to break out in laughter in court?

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:19 am

      my god you noticed that too? I thought that was horrendously unprofessional but that woman has been way outside professional since the start. She’s horrid!

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 12:18 pm

        The main laughter was from the he/she followers – the weird little arson groupies……

      • 04/05/2013 at 12:24 pm

        watch the mitigation woman… she is the one I noticed erupt into laughter live. Not seen the replay yet but it was very distinct.

  95. Moon
    04/05/2013 at 2:17 am

    nite anna, i need to get to sleep too. gd is here and she wakes up early! **waving***

  96. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 2:18 am

    Syntara :
    ok youn tw now you are where I’ve been wondering about but being totally unfamiliar with the area was unsure what I was seeing.
    Do you see a gaping hole between when she last saw Darryl, got the cans then showed up at Travis’ at allegedly 3 or 4 am on the 4th.

    We are on it, I have all the dates, times, purchases, routes cobbled together, just waiting on a couple of other pieces of input to get the most complete picture possible. We have the gaping hole you refer to pretty much filled in. With no court for 3 days, we’ll have time to get it.

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 12:23 pm

      From what I tallied on the mapquest, it would have taken those hours for the drive from Calif to Mesa.

  97. 04/05/2013 at 2:21 am

    excellent! And where does Mat McCartney live again? Is he around this area or back closer to Mesa?

    • Schaeffer
      04/05/2013 at 2:42 am

      Chill out a minute while I quickly review any new comments popped up in the last few. Then we’ll be ready-set-go. My daughter said “Racy Doe” when she was little. She also made up a word which would be perfect for WOBO, but it is a word we love and use all the tine, so I don’t want it associated with tainted by association, I’ll work it in somewhere else.

      • 04/05/2013 at 2:43 am

        hahah ok! 🙂

  98. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 2:45 am

    Syn — did you see comment(s) re: Snow White & The Huntsman posted earlier?

  99. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 2:55 am

    Syn — can you tell me if any of the endless messages covered today dealt with her coming to see Travis? Or any of them fighting within the time frame of the preceding week? I am looking for 2 back to back calls Travis made to WOBO @ 3:04 am for 18 minutes and 3:21 am for 44 minutes, morning of 2 june. tx

    • Schaeffer
      04/05/2013 at 1:32 pm

      Got ’em.

  100. 04/05/2013 at 2:58 am

    not yet seen those still need to go back to where I signed off tho

  101. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 3:09 am

    I must get some sleep that can be measured in more than just minutes. I will be posting WOBOs trip first thing, and I really do have it. I’ve listened to testimony, tapes, looked at exhibits, and read through comments, Just need to corral it all in the same place on line.

    ciao

    • 04/05/2013 at 3:50 am

      will look forward to it!!

  102. Anniefreeze
    04/05/2013 at 3:29 am

    I watched premiere Snow White and the Huntsman on HBO tonight. It was entertaining just like watching Juan in court today. Nurmi was transparent as he was suppressing the urge to bust his shirt buttons.

  103. Anniefreeze
    04/05/2013 at 3:31 am

    You can find JA journal pages releases on Chrisstarks twitter page

  104. Anniefreeze
    04/05/2013 at 3:37 am

    I agree about the braids making it less likely any loose strands of DNA hair shedding all over the place. I have been thinking that since I saw her in braids. Travis loved her in those braids, convenient for JA.

  105. Anniefreeze
    04/05/2013 at 3:42 am

    esneet4113: “@JustifyTravis: @nityensali yay .. Here’s Gus’Amazon link http://amzn.to/17ga5we” #jodiarias DOUBLEWIDE GUS?Oh ick! http://twitter.com/esneet4113/status/320014957213282304/photo/1”

  106. Anniefreeze
    04/05/2013 at 3:43 am

    stark3923: #JodiArias 12 PGS JOURNALS http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Arias2.pdf … AND MAY 22 *8 PGS http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Arias1.pdf … @sandymetter @tweets05652964”

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 7:56 am

      And I thought the call to him after she killed him was a kicker. But she continued it–all the writing “as if” she didn’t know! Did Juan ask gasbag about these?

      • Marilyn N
        04/05/2013 at 12:26 pm

        She had no memory…………

  107. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/05/2013 at 4:21 am

    Ok. Just got a snippet on David Lohr site. Gasbag is mirroring ja’s style of answering questions! Trying to be a smartass, Smile when asked if she knows what a clinical interview is and looks over at Gidget, smiling. She’s gonna try and parse each question from the Juanster. OHHHHHHHHHHH I can’t wait to see him break her into little pieces.

  108. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/05/2013 at 4:24 am

    Oh listen to her try and tell Juan how to do his job! She’s got that nanny knowitall face on and she thinks she can tell HIM how to “act” in court!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 5:14 am

      Right before yet another sidebar called by Gidget about Snow White, LaGasbag turns to the jury for the first time in awhile..you can see her hoping that someone wil smile at her and let her know how silly it all is, but I don’t think anyone looked back at her.

  109. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/05/2013 at 4:32 am

    Notice she put her face on her fist as a defense against the onslaught. She thinks she’s the head of the “seminar” and can tell everyone how to speak in court! The same knowitall attitude is now rearing its ugly head. She has to qualify every answer. Of course, Gidget and Wormi are jumping up to save her–someone has to! I hope we see the complete meltdown of this fool on Monday. The days cant go fast enough. FridaySaturdaySunday come fast. Give me Monday and double -0-Juan.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 10:54 am

      Everyone of your comments has her perfectly pegged. Your synopsis is pitch perfect, Robert. Thanks

  110. jad
    04/05/2013 at 4:51 am

    The part played by Matt McCartney is still being researched. It is possible he was [or was not] an accomplice in the crime. (This does not diminish the role played by Jodi Arias. On the contrary, this proves the premeditation — although unnecessary to use in this case.) Maybe someone in this room can explain the presence of Matt McCartney in the residence of Travis Alexander or disprove his presence, just by examining the manner the photos were taken. It is my belief that Travis Alexander was not an active participant while the photos were taken, and it appears he did not volunteer for the two photos taken of him while he lay in bed. The giveaway is that he did not move between the two takes, even though the bottle of KY was moved into a better frame — so that anyone who would view the photo later would notice the KY and automatically presume that Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander were lovers. Mr. Alexander was working with his Bishop and had already realized Jodi Arias was a sociopath (according to some of his last [e-mails or] text messages to her). Since it is my belief that the testimony of Jodi Arias shows he never had sex where there was penetration [and, according to the May 10, 2008 taped conversation, the KY could be used for masturbation], he would not have knowingly and voluntarily posed for those photos.

    It is my belief that Jodi Arias took those photos for posterity. In her own demonic fashion, she meant for those first few photos to be seen. It is possible she did not know the date and time had been set, since the camera was new and still in the bag when she arrived at the residence of Mr. Alexander (unannounced). It had to be unannounced, since she said, herself, that he looked up in surprise to see her there. She admitted that she went into the house on her own, and he did not let her in. His roommates told Detective Esteban Flores that the doors were never locked and, if the front door was accidentally locked, they would use the code for the outside garage door to let themselves in (by the interior garage door). Jodi Arias has admitted to letting herself in before, and this code was never changed. So, she could have entered, either through the garage or through the front door.

    The time of her arrival is unknown, but it seems as though the time would have been when she knew he would be asleep. Since he was known to be a night-owl [not a lark], he would have been asleep up until the noon hour or later. Chris Hughes has stated they had a very important business deal to transpire over the phone at seven that evening. Also, Enrique Cortez said he had seen Mr. Alexander as he was heading to work that morning, when Mr. Alexander told him he had only slept for forty-five minutes (which would discredit the story told by Jodi Arias, that they went to the bedroom together to sleep upon her arrival at around 4:00 that morning, and they supposedly did not wake until 1:00 P.M.).

    Chris Hughes said he tried to contact Mr. Alexander around noon (so this disproves Mr. Alexander was in his office with Jodi Arias after 1:00 P.M., as Mr. Alexander would have returned the call, especially since there was a very important conference call scheduled for that day). Neither roommate saw another vehicle at their residence that entire day. [In her testimony, Jodi Arias described parking the U-Haul in a location behind the residence before she left in April of 2008, of which there was another way taken to the residence. This could be the same backyard entry she used when spying through the back plate glass doorway in late 2007.]

    While Zachary Billings was house-sitting for his girlfriend and her parents at their residence [while they were on a cruise], he had gone back to (his roommate) Mr. Alexander’s residence, on that day of June 4, to bring home his belongings [according to the corrected statement given Detective Flores in the police interview]. Jodi Arias probably did not expect to hear Mr. Billings in the residence because she might have known his schedule (and would have thought he would not be there because she knew he was house-sitting). However, it is doubtful that she even knew that Mr. Cortez lived there, as she and Mr. Alexander had stopped speaking to each other around the time the new roommate moved in. One thing that would have been noticed that was wrong that day was that both the garage door into the home and the front door had accidentally been LOCKED, and Mr. Cortez had to find another way to enter the residence when he went home after work that day.

    It is apparent that something went wrong that day of June 4, 2008 to disturb the plans of Jodi Arias (that left unfinished business in the residence). So, there is no way that anyone will ever know for sure what she was planning to do with the watch that Mr. Alexander always wore (but was left in plain sight on the kitchen counter). Additionally, it seems as though the washer and dryer loads were not taken care of in the way that would have deflected attention. There is no way to know if she had been the one to finish putting the floor cleaner together, as both of the roommates said that it was brand new and had not yet been assembled. This cleaner was not put away and left in the middle of the downstairs tiled area (which was unlike Mr. Alexander, who was a bit of a neatnik). If Jodi Arias [or Matt McCartney or another person] assembled the floor cleaner, that would mean that Mr. Alexander had been ambushed downstairs (which would be cause for a thorough clean-up of the downstairs area), and could explain the rope-like material on the stairs leading up to the bedroom (as it is not thought she would still be carrying the loose material on her way out). There is an explanation for that rope-like material, which is a double braid. It is not from any fabric inside the residence, and this material had to come with Jodi Arias because another of these unexplained pieces of rope-like material was also discovered in a bloody pool in the bathroom. Because of the description, it is possible that Jodi Arias had planned certain things to happen with Mr. Alexander before she killed him.

    It is possible that she planned a wedding ceremony, where photos or a video would have been taken, using her laptop computer [or her Canon camera or other electronic device]. This is surmised because a double braid like that found could be a double-knotted string representing “the Trinity” and “the marriage covenant”. This could have been purchased from Church Distribution Services (or from Michael’s [where she stated she shopped for her art supplies], where she most likely bought the iron-on letters and t-shirt that was prepared to show “Travis Alexander’s”). There was no reason to plan so well otherwise, and other than one other purpose for her computer [that involved MapQuest on her journey through the desert, as will be explained in the next day’s posting], it is possible that she wanted to memorialize the event she had planned. She would take trophies regardless. She would value her photos or video, especially if they were her marriage pictures. She has stated several times that a video was taken of that day. Although she has said the video was deleted, it is possible she saved the video as a trophy of what she had accomplished. She is pure evil. She is NOT mentally ill. SHE IS EVIL, and nothing should be put past her demonic bent.

    It is possible that [like Andrew Cunanan and other psychopaths that see sex in a different light], she enjoyed certain games. Because of her personality, she would be the dominant one if she employed Mr. Alexander against his will. She did something with him, and the prosecutor knows what she did, although not a word has come through his lips. However, the evidence shows a part of what Mr. Alexander suffered. His pubic hairs had been shaved that day. If this had not been a forced act, Jodi Arias would have mentioned it, at least once — or eternally bragged about the way that Mr. Alexander enjoyed how she made it all possible. Her secret about what she did to him shows this was a very important part of her desire. Her actions are those of a sexual predator that relishes what is done to the prey. She made him suffer, and she enjoyed it.

    Even though she worked out after she left Mesa (according to what she told Mr. Alexander in the taped recording of May 10, 2008), she would not have been able to best Mr. Alexander. Even if Mr. Alexander had not had enough sleep, as his roommate has stated, Jodi Arias could not have taken Mr. Alexander down, by herself. She has man hands, and she would be able to handle certain instruments, but she did not have the skill to do [in the entirety] what she had planned (– not if she wanted to make it appear he was killed as a penalty for violating his OATH by divulging the “First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood”, the “Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood”, together with the “First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood”). The death was certainly by premeditated design.

    Jodi Arias had researched the way she wanted Mr. Alexander to die. She wanted him to suffer for her the way that she had suffered for him, and she wanted his friends to feel what her cold, black heart could not. Another matter that spurred her on was her absolute disdain for his love of his faith (which he had placed above all), which she would also have to punish. In addition, she wanted the Church to know that she and he were lovers (even though they were NOT). She went to great lengths to document time spent together that day, only to have it ruined when Mr. Alexander lunged at her [or them] causing the finger [on the camera] to press that button to involuntarily [reflexively] take those photos. Leaving the camera with those photos to prove her reality would no longer be in the picture, after Mr. Alexander ruined it for her [although a treacherous bitch like her would also put blame on anyone else around that should have prevented the wiping out of one of the things she wanted to prove above all].

    She might have planned in offing [or snuffing] Mr. Billings and his girlfriend too (in order to reinforce the penalty towards Mr. Alexander and how he had been rejected by his beloved Church), but the new roommate would have thrown her [and a possible accomplice] off. If she had an accomplice, this has not been documented. So, how could it be proven or disproven. An attempt could be made to show the manner she took those photos of the ceiling, the wall, and the dragging of the body when she was accidentally knocked over from her kneeling [or crouching] position. However, that would still leave doubters. The only way to prove whether Jodi Arias had an accomplice is to look at the manner the photos were taken of Jodi Arias. If these photos were not taken by Mr. Alexander, these photos had to be taken by another person. A timer does not seem to be able to provide that which would be needed to take those angled pictures of her naked body. The furniture in the room would not provide a sufficient area to place the camera so that those photos of her body could be taken. Mr. Alexander had cuts on his feet and contusions on his legs documented by the Medical Examiner. The M.E. stated these injuries occurred prior to his death. These injuries could not have happened while he fought for his life. If these injuries to his feet and his legs occurred before or while he was on his bed, it is possible that he could not have taken (and would not have wanted to take) those photos.

    We now know that a psychopath does not necessarily work alone, as had once been assumed. There are more and more cases documented. Additionally, no matter the criminal offense, women can be involved just as much as men (although the percentage is still unknown). This is so, especially when religious zealotry is added to the mix. Those psychopaths choosing to be participants in sex crimes can work alone, or be any number and description, such as two brothers, two or more unrelated men, a man and a woman, or other like combination.

    Look at the crime involved with the abduction and sexual abuse of Elizabeth Ann Smart (in 2002, in Salt Lake City, Utah) by Brian Mitchell and Wanda Barzee. Brian Mitchell was a street preacher engaged in child pornography and pedophilia whenever it suit his religious fancy. {{Syntara, you would be interested in finding that [depending upon the testimony of New York City Psychiatrist Michael Weiner that Mitchell had operated in a parallel world of concealment and obfuscation] Judge Kimball described Mitchell as an effectively misleading psychopath who had manipulated people into believing he was incompetent so that he could escape true justice. This is what evil does in America, and the criminal lawyers are their willing partners in trying to prove incompetency rather than the EVIL of these creatures.}}

    Look at the crime involved with the abduction of Jaycee Lee Dugard (in 1991, in South Lake Tahoe, California). Phillip and Nancy Garrido were both active participants in that kidnapping and the sexual crimes. They were religious zealots of some sort, since he kept a blog called God’s Desire Church and also recorded songs with religious themes. Imagine the hurt that would have never been experienced by the Dugard family if Phillip Garrido had not met up with [the evil, twisted character] Nancy or had been put away for all of his deviant crimes [that included the sexual assault of a 14-year old in California, spousal abuse and torture of his wife, and a kidnapping and sadistic rape in Nevada].

    Whether Jodi Arias worked alongside another to commit this brutal crime does not lessen her role. Regardless, if Matt McCartney or any other person accompanied her or aided and abetted her in her journey, punishment should be meted out. This is not a diatribe against Matt McCartney because he has always been in the corner for Jodi Arias or because he and Jodi Arias spent all their time with all types of religions and cults. On the one hand, this is just a missive speaking of wonder as to who else was dressed in those pants that Jodi Arias said she had two pair (one larger than the other) when describing a male and female. On the other hand, she might have described a twosome in the same way she has described other ideas of hers, since she is a known prevaricator and an insult to the human race.

    Jodi Arias is indeed a psychopath. SHE IS EVIL PERSONIFIED. There is nothing about this creature that is salvageable. No matter how many experts the defense can buy with the State’s taxpayer money, they can not convince the Court that such an evil should be excused so that this evil can continue its stalking existence so that it can corner another innocent person to brutally slaughter at will. Even if Jodi Arias should give up her accomplice, she should not be saved from death row, where she belongs with other degenerates that have disgraced the human race. And, if she had an accomplice, we should be able to figure out exactly who aided and abetted this creature and demand that the authorities prosecute any one of them to the fullest extent allowed by the Law.

    • kristin
      04/05/2013 at 2:55 pm

      This gave me chill bumps!

  111. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/05/2013 at 6:37 am

    Syntara :
    did ya like my lyrics?

    Yes. Loved it. This morning I’m listening to Dire Straits sing the “Sultan of Swing” and I keep thinking of the Juanster as the sultan of the courtroom. I was dancing to my version filling in the “sultaon of Swat”–like it swatting away flies…

  112. janetlynn
    04/05/2013 at 6:47 am

    Good morning all! I’m gonna jump in here while I can lol. I tried to catch up with you, even went so far as printing the comments to read at work but still can’t get there. At one point I had to stand in front of the copier and be uber friendly to anyone who came by to use it as 200 + pages of comments can flowing out lol. I think they’d frown upon that.

    Donchais…thanks again for all your hard work! I couldn’t watch the last 7 days so you kept be in the know. Although I still taped it everyday, I fast forwarded through it, no Juan…delete. Very excited today. Loved his Snow White scenario. Anyway, thanks for the donation link donchais, I can’t do a ton but as you said every little bit helps.

    Ok, so, who is Donovan?

    I too, have noticed JackAss looking back into the gallery and then following one juror with her eyes. WTH? Creepy! I need the story on that folks if you get a chance please.

    Off for three days YAY! Maybe I’ll catch up.

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 8:52 am

      LOL picturing 200 + pages coming out of the copier! Too funny.

      Donovan is the he/she supporter, friend, former cell-mate of JA who sits with the Arias family and apparently is quite the little tattle tale on people in the gallery. I think her crime was arson so just another upstanding citizen/convicted felon who believes/loves/lusts JA!!!!

  113. Anonymous
    04/05/2013 at 6:59 am

    You are brilliant! Take a bow.

  114. Dewey
    04/05/2013 at 7:04 am

    Hi guys. Thanks for always providing such great information. Why didn’t the judge reprimand Laviolette yesterday when she asked Martinez if he was mad at her? She’s a witness, she asks the prosecution a sarcastic question and the judge says nothing?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 7:20 am

      Well this judge is not representative of a first rate jurist. She never took control of the courtroom; the system is in control. This is her first DP case and boy does it show!

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 9:00 am

        Does it ever plus she has a full caseload before this trial even starts every morning. AZ really needs in get some more judges.

      • 04/05/2013 at 9:19 am

        Good morning MMD,
        I agree with you that this judge and probably the others have a full load. Apparently she had another heavy case in which the defendant was sentenced to life last week. The defense will try anything but it doesn’t mean it would have any merit. I don,t know that the judge can ban juror 5 from attending as she has a legal right as a citizen to attend. I would think it would be difficult to prove she has any tangible influence on the outcome. Again, the defense can say what they want…as we have already seen. Maybe someone with a legal background could comment.
        I’m impressed with the Az system including Sheriff Joe. I would like to see implementation here in CA.

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 9:23 am

        Morning Lisa. Yep, I’m really impressed with Sheriff Joe – I’m tired of defendants and convicted felons having way, way too many rights!!!!

  115. janetlynn
    04/05/2013 at 7:19 am

    Dewey, I believe the Judge is letting many, many things go so if there is a conviction, it can not be overturned. She’s being very careful.

    Just made ALV look bad IMO.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 11:01 am

      I agree, Janetlynn! Everyone says this and yes I am sure that much of her decisions are guided by that but it’s just her personal laissez faire style is way too laid back for me. It makes me mad that she doesn’t admonish witnesses to be respectful of all members of the court, prosecutor, atty’s, judge, clerks, court reporter. It’s an embarrassment that she hasn’t.

  116. MMD
    04/05/2013 at 8:47 am

    Robert in Rotterdam :
    not to brag or anything, but I was the one who first brought the Heat is Juanto this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dancing away myself right now.

    Darlin’ we are forever grateful and thankful so brag away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

  117. janetlynn
    04/05/2013 at 8:56 am

    Thanks MMD! The one with the short-cropped brown hair??????????? Really??????

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 8:58 am

      Well some of us can’t decide if it’s man or woman, only that it has glasses and a receding hairline. 😉

      • janetlynn
        04/05/2013 at 9:59 am

        oh. not the one I was thinking. going back in 🙂

  118. MMD
    04/05/2013 at 8:57 am

    Ok I started at the top to catch up, got waylaid to the bottom now don’t know where the hell to go!!! Everyone is making such good points plus FINALLY donchais is venting, and I just don’t want to miss anything.

    BTW I received my Visa bill yesterday and it was under $500 – a first. I have so busy on here that my online shopping has taken a real beating!!!

    Donchais, I keep telling you that you truly do provide many public services and this is just one example! 🙂

  119. Observer
    04/05/2013 at 9:03 am

    I think Martinez made some very subtle points with his cross of Alyce LaViolette.

    1- The so called expert doesn’t have a PhD. so she is not even qualified to test or assess patients.
    2- Battered Wives Syndrome is not a valid diagnosis in the professional psychology handbook.
    3- The so called expert obtained her expertise by her own experience and uses her own method to make her assessment of whether a woman is abused.
    4- The so called expert had no idea what was in Jodi’s journal unless she could read from the pages.
    5- The mere mention of Snow White as a battered wife shows this woman lives in a fantasyland, which could be why she bought into Jodi’s fantasies.
    6- LaViolette getting defensive, confrontational and argumentative shows she has rage issues of her own, not unlike her client, who admits to stabbing her ex boyfriend 29 times, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head.

  120. Observer
    04/05/2013 at 9:10 am

    I forgot to add:
    7- She made her assessment by asking questions of a pathological liar.

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 9:20 am

      I think that basically that is the only point he has to make! Everything she has said, read, relied on, is all based on lies so the jury should be able to dismiss her entire testiphony.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 10:54 am

      Great synopsis and evaluation. I LOVED that the first place Juan hit was her “expert” button.
      AND-as a bonus – we hear that 11 years went by between her graduation from college (;69) and her getting a.masters in social work 11 years later!
      No wonder she’s so stuck in the thinking of the 1970s that I have been noting! When all the bright psychology students who graduated in ’68-’74 went onto to graduate school, many on fellowships and scholarships. They were maturing during the years of the “women’s movement writ large”–the years of Kate Millet, Germaine Greer, and the debates with Norman Mailor. It was the time of Doris Lessing’s book and the emergence of Gloria Steinham. The men and women who were growing and being educated during this time,–and who were good in psychology–went on to graduate school, doctorates, psychiatry, medical school etc.
      We know now that during this time LaLa face was not doing that. She was trying to do a lot of things is my guess–but I’m only speculating! In any case, by early 30’s she figures, what the hell. can I do to make it through? Goes and gets one of the easiest masters to acquire-and one which can be used in numerous settings. You can be a “therapist” to individuals or organizations! Welfare offices a big source of work! Allthose people out there! She says to herself! They need help from someone and that might as well be me!
      And bingo. An “expert” is created. All the good students are now practicing and keeping up with current thought and papers. Only someone who decided to “get into it” in mid-30’s is running around chasing ambulances.
      Justice for Travis–and all battered men and women.

  121. MMD
    04/05/2013 at 9:17 am

    HLN is showing the opening statements of the trial today starting at 1 ET if you missed them and can stand all the commercials.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 11:04 am

      Ohhh Thanks. I’ve never seen these!

  122. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 9:28 am

    Quick, somebody, what was the date of the “break in” at WOBO’s grandparent house? It was testified to on 14 Jan, but there is no audio and Donchais’ recap only says “May” with no date. tyia

    • Observer
      04/05/2013 at 9:36 am

      I believe it was May 28, 2008, just a few days before Travis was murdered on June 4, 2008.

  123. Observer
    04/05/2013 at 9:34 am

    I think we ought to heed Donchais warning to be careful what we say on this blog because the defense has a consultant who reads the blogs and watches TV to determine how they are being perceived. I would also be careful of making up alternate theories that are not based on the evidence or the prosecution’s theories.

    A Casey Anthony defense consultant told the media after her acquittal that the accidental drowning and child abuse defense was based on research she did on the blogs.

    Bloggers had speculated that it was an “accidental drowning” and that Casey’s father and brother had sexually abused her, although there was no evidence to prove either theory. The defense consultant also reported that the defendant’s father George was the “most hated player” on the blogs because bloggers believed claims by a woman that he had an affair with her. The consultant felt that if bloggers believed the accident and child abuse claims, jurors would also. The defense ran with it and a cold blooded murderer walked out of jail free to kill again.

    None of us wants this to happen with Jodi Arias. So let’s concentrate on what we can prove by the facts and evidence and not let our imaginations go wild.

    • Anna
      04/05/2013 at 11:28 am

      Well I sure hope they found my time machine letter to the current exspurt because that’s the truth. [said like Edith Ann] My imagination is a wild child. Sorry. Seriously, I am trying to watch myself, tho.

  124. JFG
    04/05/2013 at 9:35 am

    ALV purchased books and a magazine subscription for Arias??? Where the hell are the boundaries with these so called professionals!

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 10:08 am

      LOL – ALV – professional ROFL sorry, couldn’t help myself seeing both words together 😉

      • JFG
        04/05/2013 at 10:46 am

        LOL, Both ALV & Samuels are such a disgrace!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 10:58 am

      Do you give 4 books to all your clients? Do you give any clients a subscription to a magazine? Did you pay for it? Do you always?

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 11:06 am

        Never done except when you are trying to synchronize your testiphony to all line up.

  125. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 9:36 am

    In the journal samples provided upstairs by Anniefreeze, tx, WOBO makes a huge Freudian slip. She is feigning shock @ Travis’s death, and is formulating a letter to him, when she writes “. . . I CEASED the opportunity to [tell you how grateful I am].”

    CEASED is right, you ended everything. The proper word is “seized” — as in grabbed — but she used “ceased” as in ended, and you will never convince me she was not subconsciously revealing the truth.

    • 04/05/2013 at 10:46 am

      I saw that!!!!

  126. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 9:58 am

    Observer :
    I think we ought to heed Donchais warning to be careful what we say on this blog because the defense has a consultant who reads the blogs and watches TV to determine how they are being perceived. I would also be careful of making up alternate theories that are not based on the evidence or the prosecution’s theories.
    A Casey Anthony defense consultant told the media after her acquittal that the accidental drowning and child abuse defense was based on research she did on the blogs.
    Bloggers had speculated that it was an “accidental drowning” and that Casey’s father and brother had sexually abused her, although there was no evidence to prove either theory. The defense consultant also reported that the defendant’s father George was the “most hated player” on the blogs because bloggers believed claims by a woman that he had an affair with her. The consultant felt that if bloggers believed the accident and child abuse claims, jurors would also. The defense ran with it and a cold blooded murderer walked out of jail free to kill again.
    None of us wants this to happen with Jodi Arias. So let’s concentrate on what we can prove by the facts and evidence and not let our imaginations go wild.

    I said a while ago we shouldn’t speculate too much, but in a way that’s also a form of censorship, so I don’t know if that’s really a good thing. The defense is going to rest after this witness anyway, and with the gift that JM gave them yesterday, their guards are going to be down now. They would have to sift through so much information– these are court appointed defense attorneys, unlike Casey’s big money team– I just don’t see it happening. Look at all the other blogs– FB, HLN, etc.
    I personally was annoyed, because no matter what the speculation is it’s not going to help the prosecution. None of our theories are going to get into that courtroom in my opinion, so what’s the point? However, like I just said above, to curb people, unless they’re being disrespectful of Travis and his family, is a form of censorship.

  127. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 10:02 am

    And related to my last comment, about JM’s performance yesterday, I was extremely disappointed. We sit through all of this bs testimony and then he gets up there, and obviously was unprepared– did he even watch the youtube video of her seminar?– and keeps on the same track, until she clearly got the upper hand, in my opinion. I had to concur with Mark Eiglash (sp?) on Dr. Drew who said JM got into the weeds. This woman can’t be pushed around. I know he was trying to show that her testimony about JA is just as much a myth as the Snow White story, but I literally couldn’t believe what I was seeing.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 11:01 am

      Well, imagine having to sit there all week listening to her garbage and being given only a very short period of time-less than an hour to start any sort of arc. Its pent up. I dont think he would have been as aggressive if she hadn’t been as noxious. And, as Observer notes above, he did gett a lot in.

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 12:46 pm

        I hope you’re right, Rotterdam! I understand he has pent-up anger and you can’t win every battle. I hope he’s able to gain ground next week, and put this behind him.

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 11:10 am

      Hey Lisa and Observer – I’m not going to butt in here with your discussion. I just would like to make one point and that is about Mark Eiglarsh.. I have only ever heard Mark say one (1) positive thing about JM EVER and that was very begrudgingly. He hates his style, questions, manner, everything and he’s on Dr. Drew fairly regularly. It could be simply just that he’s a defense attorney or really just doesn’t like JM. Dunno.

      Just my 2 Canuck cents worth.

      • Nancy Pennington
        04/05/2013 at 12:24 pm

        I agree with you about Eiglarsh. My irritation with him and others are that they have one tenth the experience our (ok ok your) Juan has and yet they think they know more than he does. I’d like to see their track records next to Juan’s.

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 12:45 pm

        I agree, I’ve noticed that about Mark Eiglarsh as well. But I think it’s out of fear that JM is going to blow it, rather than that he wants him to fail.

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 12:52 pm

        Mark Eiglarsh does want Jodi convicted though. But yeah, he’s been critical from day one, that is true.

    • Anna
      04/05/2013 at 11:42 am

      I must respectfully disagree Lisa M. If I’m one of those jurors I’m Juanting Juan to lunge at this exspurt like a linebacker because she has been driving me insane, while insulting my intelligence, for daze on end! She is not worth 25 cents/hour of any state’s money. After all JM has had to listen to…when Sillymott said ‘I have nothing further’ she in essence unlocked the cage to a hungry tiger, and she knew it! His passion for justice here cannot be contained. It might seem a little messy, I guess, to some but I’m very patient when it comes to these things. (And tigers on raw meat should be messy.) I would probably act the same way simply because it is so wrong what they are trying to do to Travis and his family. JM has a tough job I do not envy.

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 12:50 pm

        I hear what you’re saying, Anna, but I’m saying this from the perspective of fear that there could be one or two jurors who may be on the fence and haven’t found LaViolette as repellent as we have. They are the ones deciding this case, not us. But even Mark Eiglarsh, with all his criticism of JM, still thinks she’ll be convicted for first degree. And believe me, I don’t envy JM his job, and I’m not saying I could do better. I just get frustrated. I want him to win each and every battle!

      • Anna
        04/05/2013 at 1:55 pm

        Thank you Lisa M! You’ve made me remember that I’m only looking at this from my perspective. You are so right that some jurors might not like that style. I appreciate your perspective. I’m very sorry if I came across a bit too rude there…not meant at all. (I may need to be checked for rabies.) Hope we’re all good. I have enjoyed chatting with you in the past. 🙂

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:43 pm

        Love use of your images and words here. Raw. Like a killing.

  128. BMc
    04/05/2013 at 10:10 am

    Hi, Im new but I’ve bn on here a lil bit reading this awesome interpretation of the days in court and woman you’re amazing. And everyone’s informative and great comments!! I can barely watch it w/o Mr. Martinez up there! So thank you donchais for your work!! I read some of the journal pages and that hodi just made it more obvious. Who puts a persons first and last name when writing in THEIR own journal??!! Thats crazy but she knew. And she says something about thanking him for being “a words for affirmation” kinda guy!! So what were his word on June 4th hodi? That he’s not taking you so leave? That really bothers me on top of the bazillion other things about her! She is horrible and she deserves the worst! I was a DV victim a REAL ONE. I moved on but she is not and never was. I just broke up w/a guy hodi they are horrible ppl and they are not crazy they know exactly what they say and do!! Thank you for this site and for allowing me to get this out!

  129. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 10:22 am

    Observer :
    As soon as Martinez came up to bat, LaViolette looked angry and stiffened up like she was bracing herself for the attack and when he pointed out she didn’t have a Phd. she came on defensive and combative like Jodi did. She is a know it all who is used to being in control with clients. She is also used to being unchallenged. He is challenging her credentials and her diagnosis and she doesn’t like it. He also made a fool out of her by pointing out that she believed Snow White was a battered woman.

    I have to respectfully disagree. I am 150% behind Juan Martinez, but this woman stood up for herself successfully, in that she didn’t buckle when he pointed out she didn’t have a Ph.D; she said she continued to take classes. She is the one defense witness that Juan won’t be able to use this aggressive tactic on successfully in my opinion. As she pointed out, and I reluctantly had to agree, he WAS asking confusing questions and cutting her off. He was borderline abusive– I’m sorry, he was! He was all over the place and then berating her when she didn’t understand the question. If the defense did that to a prosecution witness, we’d all be pissed. I had to stop watching actually, because I couldn’t take it, so unless he picked himself up and hit the mark in the last 20 minutes or so, then I think his performance yesterday was not up to par. I can see a juror or two finding it offensive. My only consolation is in hoping this was part of his strategy and he knew he only had 40 minutes left and didn’t want to get into the good stuff and give the defense attorneys a head’s up before the weekend. And believe me, she deserved whatever he threw at her, but I just don’t think he was effective yesterday.

    • HJ Madison
      04/05/2013 at 11:05 am

      Lisa, I agree. And did you notice after one particularly nasty exchange they went to sidebar and ALV looked at one juror and smiled as though she was acknowledging their support. I’m sorry he did not just conclude the Snow White stuff by saying it is as fictional as JA story. He tried to I think, but got a little lost.

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 11:20 am

        She finally thought she better take the jurors temperature because she had been totally focused on Juan and had not spoken to them yet.

        Some court watchers from the gallery have all posted the same thing! That not one juror was cracking a smile or laughing (as she and perky persistently had giggle moments yesterday even though there is NOTHING funny about being in court in a murder trial) and when she turned toward them as you describe above not one juror was nodding or smiling. None.

  130. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 10:28 am

    Syntara :
    This shows Alice is truly in Wonderland. She thinks Samantha wants her comfort?? After the character assassination she has perpetrated on Travis the last however many days?
    Then backs it up by calling Travis the PERPETRATOR???
    Alice La Toilette needs some serious psychological help!

    Thanks Syn, once again you are eloquent! Did you hear at the end of court yesterday when Juan mentioned the judge needed to handle the matter with LaViolette and she said Oh yes. I’m thinking that referred to the illegal contact with Sam.

    • MMD
      04/05/2013 at 10:35 am

      Thanks Nancy – I couldn’t catch what it was that he said and I hoped it had something to do with ALV and Samantha!

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 10:44 am

        I really hope that ALV has a truly lousy seminar today!!!! I understand she she is booked every Fri and Sat during the month of April to promote her pile of junk book.

        Just looking out for the real battered women 🙂

  131. 04/05/2013 at 10:35 am

    Hi EveryJUAN
    The defence does have another witness after AL, one of wobo’s bunkmates from the bighouse.
    Didn’t wurmi mention the name Wong the other day.
    MMD make sure you don’t tire Mr JUANderful out this weekend!!!!!!

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 11:29 am

      Wong is a producer from HLN and Baby Huey intends to call her before the judge finally rules and wraps up his latest in the multitude of motions for mistrial from last week.

  132. 04/05/2013 at 10:39 am

    No wild imagination, nor speculation, just deduction based on facts presented. Nothing defense, or prosecution would not be privvy to, in fact Im sure they have a lot more than we do to deduce from. Juan baby is more than capable, he will tie it all together and we can see how/where we put the pieces as he did.

    If we somehow got hold of what was in his head and posted it… That would be foolhardy but deduction, no, deduction is very healthy. Enquiring minds NEED to know 😀

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 1:05 pm

      Plus by now I am certain the jury knows Juan’s style and is not getting shocked, and is
      what they are expecting…….

  133. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 10:39 am

    Wendy :
    Hey nancy. Thanks for posting those. Did anyone notice on the 10 th shr writes at 3 am then on the 11th says she went to bed at 2:30. I honestly think she made up the majority of
    her journals.

    Yes Wendy, I have wondered if the journal isn’t a part of her agenda. These parts certainly are.

  134. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 10:43 am

    NancyB :

    Syntara :
    This shows Alice is truly in Wonderland. She thinks Samantha wants her comfort?? After the character assassination she has perpetrated on Travis the last however many days?
    Then backs it up by calling Travis the PERPETRATOR???
    Alice La Toilette needs some serious psychological help!

    Thanks Syn, once again you are eloquent! Did you hear at the end of court yesterday when Juan mentioned the judge needed to handle the matter with LaViolette and she said Oh yes. I’m thinking that referred to the illegal contact with Sam.

    This is the first I’m hearing about this! OMG! This woman DID NOT think Samantha needed her help?! Are you f’ing kidding me? The defense team and witnesses people in this trial are just lower than (what’s a good expression?) I can’t think of anything that’s low enough. This is why I get frustrated with Juan. I just want him to blow her out of the water, but I don’t think he did that yesterday. Maybe everyone else is seeing something I didn’t, but I think he misses opportunities. For example, when she said, “Are you angry at me, Mr. Martinez?” he could have said, “Well, thank you for asking, Ms. LaViolette. Let me ask you this, would you be angry if your brother were brutally murdered and you had to sit in court day after day and listen to him being called an abuser, a sexual deviant, a perpetrator when absolutely no evidence exists of that other than the words of his murderer, who’s a proven liar? I represent the true victims in this case and damn right, I’m angry!” And of course, there’d be objections up the ying yang but he’d get it out there and maybe even shut her up. Or bar that, ask the judge to tell her she doesn’t ask the questions, he does.

    • 04/05/2013 at 10:52 am

      ….. are just lower than (what’s a good expression?)

      A snakes belly?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 11:10 am

        There is a French saying -” l’esprit de l’escalir”- which means roughly the “ghost going down the stairs” and which is used colloquially to mean, Damn, I shoulda said this and that as one walks down the stairs away from an encounter.
        I dont necessarily disagree with my surprise at his “tone” but I agree with Observer that it brought all HER qualities out and by HIM having an uncharacteristic attack, he produced a characteristic response.

      • 04/05/2013 at 11:56 am

        Im hoping he will handle her a little differently.. ie push the button… respond more thoughtfully to her barb.

        He did this with Dodgy.. dodgy started off just like Alice and Juan attacked back, after that Juan let Dodgy bite but then backed off with retorts such as. do you have memory probs.

        That’s what I’m expecting from Juan now, he showed us all her true colours, very distasteful colours I might add, now he can manage her as he sees fit.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 11:35 am

      Lisa M – hottopic (#216 currently) posted info about it in this thread. I want everyone to know that she had the colossal nerve to ILLEGALLY approach the victims in court, for her self serving BS!

  135. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 10:45 am

    LindaLou :
    Nancy, thanks for posting these. This girl just cannot shut up even in her journal. In the ‘before’ entries she should have just noted that she got her new cell phone and not elaborate what’s on the old one, i.e., Travis’ “scandalous” 10 page text msg. To me it just
    screams of planning and premeditation. All a set-up if she got caught. Why go on & on with what text messages and recordings are there. She knew the phone was NOT lost. If for some reason the killing of Travis did not go as planned and she was caught, she could always fall back on her pre-planned journal entries, phone texts & recordings. Her constant babbling on in this journal, to me, shows her guilt just like the constant callings to Detective Flores. Isn’t this how most murderers act prior to being arrested? JA’s actions as Det. Flores told her father did not seem right from the start. All I can say about her ‘after’ entries is, she is just full of sh*t! What a sick piece of work!

    You have nailed it! She totally earned her moniker WOBO! I still would like to know where the police found Travis’ journals.

    • LindaLou
      04/05/2013 at 11:36 am

      Nancy, I thought I read somewhere that Chris Hughes had Travis’ journals. Let me check around and see what I can find.

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 2:53 pm

        Thank-you LindaLou!!

  136. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 10:49 am

    Moon :
    if la toilet really approached sam, well what could be the result of that? did someone stop her? she had the gall to call hodi the victim. i loved it this am when juan pointed out how wurmi watching too much tv~ ha~ ever since he and hodi booted off #5, he and hodi
    constantly observe the jurors. talk about paranoia.

    Oh, she did it. People who were in court have confirmed it. Remember, at the end of court yesterday when the judge asked both atty’s if there was any further business and Juan reminded her about a matter with LaViolette and Judge Stephens said, “Oh, yes”. The family told witnesses that Juan would handle it and I am sure that he did.

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 1:18 pm

      I love this kind of ïnside info. Thanks. Also, so typical of know-it-all to think that every woman is distress needs her.

  137. 04/05/2013 at 10:56 am

    This is Juan crazy trial! And he is Juan helluva great prosecutor!

    Btw, this witness is not helping the defense by showing such disrespect to the state and hypersensitivity to Juan’s angry demeanor. Perhaps she believes she’s being abused now! Good grief. Personally, I don’t know how he’s able to show such self control, in light of all the fluff and muck he has to wade through with these people!

    • LindaLou
      04/05/2013 at 11:40 am

      I guess Donchais will have to order some hip waders for Juan too!

  138. Nienna
    04/05/2013 at 11:04 am

    LOL…

    @DoctorGooFee
    #jodiarias Juan jumped up Grumpy, woke anyone Sleepy, Made me Happy, The witness Bashful, the topic Dopey, and jokes for Doc. Ah-Choo.

  139. ritanita
    04/05/2013 at 11:06 am

    Whew! I just re-watched Juan’s cross from yesterday full screen and spent my time watching everyone but Juan. Amazing what I saw. There was laughter, but only Jodi’s followers were shown during that event. I doubt the family reacted. They are under such strict constraints whereas Jodi’s family and followers aren’t.

    Usually, the direct examination do not allow for leading questions, but Judge Stephens allows Willmott and Nurmi to do so. For the most part, Martinez doesn’t bother to object as they provide more ammo for his cross. When he does, the judge shuts him down. I suppose it is so that there are fewer reasons for an overturned verdict or a mistrial. I respect what Judge Stephens does, even though I don’t like it.

    Martinez did a fabulous job of “educating” LaViolette on how to answer with yes/no. Nevertheless, her attempts to put qualifiers into those yes/no questions brings clearly to mind Jodi and Samuels’ testimony. They all do this. IMHO, it does not look good for the witness to try and one-up this man. He is super at what he does.

    A quality expert witness will come into a case with no clear bias and look at the situation from a purely clinical point of view. Unfortunately, neither expert witness did this. They both took bits and pieces to put together to come up with their obvious testiphony. I’m wondering how many experts talked to Jodi and couldn’t give the defense what they wanted!

    PS: Donchais, I take personal responsibility for saying that Jodi and Travis were a “couple” at the point in the testimony when they were discussing spring of 2008. I was wrong, it was the spring of 2007 when they were “official.” Can you ever forgive me for getting lost in that morass of testiphony???

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 11:39 am

      Very helpful comments, thanks!

  140. Anna
    04/05/2013 at 11:10 am

    Mornin’ everyone! TGIF! I’m going to check the upstairs areas and see what you guys have been up to. 🙂

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 1:09 pm

      Morning Anna, but we are looking forward to TGIM!! 😃😀😀

  141. Nienna
    04/05/2013 at 11:15 am

    chris stark‏@stark392310h
    HERE IS EBAY PROOF “SNOW WHITE” #jodiarias
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/321064158322
    SOLD for $885 Jan 30, 2013

    • Anna
      04/05/2013 at 11:26 am

      Oh my word, that gave me the heebie jeebies…and the pentagram? yucko

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 11:49 am

        Are you freaking serious – someone paid $885.00 for that!!!!!!! She should NOT be allowed to SELL her doodles from Court!!!! smh That is wrong, wrong, wrong on SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many levels plus it sold in 1 day!!!

        Who the hell can I complain about this to???????????? I’m TOTALLY OUTRAGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 04/05/2013 at 11:41 am

      omg sold for 885 dollars… can’t the judge stop this???? This is making the US judicial system look repugnant.

    • 04/05/2013 at 11:44 am

      OMG!!!! note this:

      “GOOD SHAPE , HAS BEEN FOLDED.”

      yeah i bet it’s been folded!

      • LindaLou
        04/05/2013 at 11:50 am

        ROFLMAO!

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 1:19 pm

        LOL!

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 11:46 am

      And the black eye! The tears as drawn seem to be an inmate thing – often seen in their artwork. If you look at the info of item location and sellers name, it looks like she has several different people that are acting in cahoots with her to sell all of these items – to make it less transparent that she is responsible for the sales.

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 12:43 pm

        I wonder if the prosecution could use this to show that Jodi is well aware of and exploiting the “Snow White is a battered woman” viewpoint of LaViolette.

    • LindaLou
      04/05/2013 at 11:47 am

      I can’t believe there were actually 10 bids For this crap. Must be her 10 followers.

    • hottopic08
      04/05/2013 at 11:59 am

      I wonder if Alyce purchased the SW drawing to be the cover of her next new book: “Fables, Figments and Fiction” — “a true story of how I sold my soul to the devil, ruined my career and reputation by lying for a liar.”

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 12:38 pm

        Bravo, hottopic08! Perfect title for her next book!

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 1:20 pm

        Good one!

    • JFG
      04/05/2013 at 12:57 pm

      OMG!!! DISGUSTING!!!!!

      • 04/05/2013 at 1:56 pm

        That Snow White doodle is very interesting in light of the fact that it was doodled months before the wilting La Violet testified.

        And what’s up with those occult symbols? An all seeing eye in a triangle? An inverted pentagram? Proof she really is a witch in more ways than one.

        But she can be proud that her art sold! She can now join the same elite family of artists such as John Wayne Gacy!

  142. 04/05/2013 at 11:39 am

    NancyB :
    See, I was wondering the very same thing about the journal being a part of her agenda. And for how long???

    Nancy, i’ve been trying to explain this but obviously I’m doing a really bad job of it.

    To Jodi her journal entries from the very beginning, have never been for the purposes a normally ordered person has one for.

    Remember on the stand her really annoying “of course” remarks to Juan when he asked why this or that entry wasn’t mentioned? Well this ‘of course’ reveals a lot.

    She does not record what is in her heart and mind, she does not reveal her true nature, “of course” she doesn’t. Who would with a heart and soul as evil as she has?

    Firstly she expects the journals to be found remember… she expects everyone to be snooping on her.

    The journals are not, and never were, her inner thoughts written down as a type of catharsis as they are for the rest of us. Her journal is about reinforcing her projected persona and hiding what’s really going on inside her.

    This is why Alice is in Wonderland, because Alice.. (and Dodgy) relied on her journals to leap to their conclusions. Total folly. Their assessments are therefore based on pure fantasy, fantasy transcribed by Jodi to her journals.

    I did type my explanation here… of how this relates to her exchange with Juan on the stand …..but decided not to include it. In view of the prying eyes warning I do not want to go into it further right now. I don’t want to give further insight prematurely that might hinder the prosecutions case.

    Still don’t know if I’m making it clear enough, but it’s the best I can do at the moment. Ask if you find it blurred and i will endeavour to clarify further.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 11:51 am

      Your explanations are very insightful and brings things into focus clearly – no fog! Please remember to post the other comments once the defense can no longer find your intel and perspective useful! Thanks.

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 1:21 pm

        Yes I agree with this!!!

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:01 pm

      So glad I found a forum where people see things clearly. Her journals were thought through with a purpose. Jodi is so diabolical that people can’t even wrap their heads around that kind of warped, evil mentality.

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 2:57 pm

        Welcome!! Glad you found us.

    • 04/05/2013 at 2:44 pm

      I agree with your analysis, Syntara. In fact, I just said to my 27 year-old daughter yesterday that I realized that many if not most of Jodi’s journal entries reflected what she wished were true, rather than what was actually true. I specifically mentioned her entries regarding how she thought that Marie/Mimi Hall was good for Travis, and how she wished that things went well for him with her. I told my daughter that there was no way in hell that Jodi actually wished Travis well with Mimi, and that her comments actually hid her true feelings of immense jealousy and resentment. I think that’s what triggered the “aha” moment, when I realized that it wasn’t so much the Law of Attraction that guided Jodi’s entries as much as it was her projecting a “good Jodi” image into the journal. So I think that you are spot on when you say that Jodi is “reinforcing her projected persona and hiding what’s really going on inside her.”

  143. Observer
    04/05/2013 at 11:42 am

    Last night America’s Next Top Model” Season 8 winner Jaslene Gonzalez told Nancy Grace as a survivor of domestic abuse she believed Jodi Arias abused Travis Alexander. She said Jodi reminded her of her abusive ex boyfriend who was jealous and accusing her of cheating and checking her text messages, email and Facebook.

    Every battered wife, expert on domestic violence and psychologist whom I’ve heard on TV all say the defense’s claim of jealousy, rage, violence and character assassination describes Jodi, not Travis.

    I doubt if any of them would sell out other battered women for $250-$300 an hour to help a batterer try to get away with murder.

    • 04/05/2013 at 11:46 am

      Observer, I think that’s the point. Think that is why everyone is so disgusted with Alice and why her amazon reviews reflect it.

  144. Nienna
    04/05/2013 at 11:53 am

    Just watched the end of yesterday again. Did anyone else hear when the Judge asked if there was anything else for the day, JM stated just the issue she wanted to address to Lavalamp in private? Wonder what thats about? Her asking JM if he was mad at her?

    Probably just her schedule though.

    • 04/05/2013 at 12:03 pm

      Nienna I think that is about La Toilette’s approach to Samantha.

      • Nienna
        04/05/2013 at 12:23 pm

        Oh yeah! Good point!!

  145. 04/05/2013 at 12:00 pm

    Have you EVER seen a defendant in court drawing pictures???? And how are they getting from her to eBay?? This is wrong on soooooo many levels. WHAT is up with the defense table. Do they believe they are above the law??? WhereIsShe, do you have any info on this behavior??

    • 04/05/2013 at 12:05 pm

      I say orifice check that damn mitigation ‘expert’ there’s something wrong with that woman she is acting like Jodi’s BFF. I wonder if she hasn’t got her eye on some big $ after the trial in a numer of pies.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 3:02 pm



      Maybe like this. She’s successfully doing it, that is for sure. It would be helpful if the guard would position himself and either sit or stand behind her. It would also be rally helpful if he didn’t consistently nod off.

  146. Observer
    04/05/2013 at 12:11 pm

    I don’t watch In Session at all since they cut their trial coverage and rarely watch HLN. I haven’t seen Beth Karas on HLN at all the last couple of days I have watched the trial coverage. Karas was the only one I listened to because she didn’t put on her defense or prosecuting hat and try the case. She simply reported the facts. Karas was a prosecutor for many years and she said she admired Martinez because he thought “outside the box.” She also said Martinez was three steps ahead of any of the legal analysts.

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 1:25 pm

      Good to hear since I know Karas is respected by so many people. I also think that any talking heads on TV would get eaten up by Juan as well. Its so easy to talk-LOUD and FAST about how it “should”be done, but notice, there is only one guy down on the floor getting business done. Like Alice’s daughter says: double-0-Juan!

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:48 pm

        Anna’s daughter. Sorry.

  147. LindaLou
    04/05/2013 at 12:14 pm

    LindaLou :
    Nancy, I thought I read somewhere that Chris Hughes had Travis’ journals. Let me check around and see what I can find.

    Nancy B, see court order in link below. Skye Hughes was ordered to turn over Travis’ journals to Det. Flores…..
    http://www.realitychatter.com/t4245p600-jodi-arias-trial-for-the-murder-of-travis-alexander-2

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 3:11 pm

      Oh thanks so much for this link!

  148. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 12:15 pm

    Syntara :
    ….. are just lower than (what’s a good expression?)
    A snakes belly?

    That’s it, Syntara! A snake’s belly. Thanks!

  149. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 12:18 pm

    NancyB :
    Lisa M – hottopic (#216 currently) posted info about it in this thread. I want everyone to know that she had the colossal nerve to ILLEGALLY approach the victims in court, for her self serving BS!

    Utterly appalling! Just when you think they can’t get any lower…

  150. Anna
    04/05/2013 at 12:21 pm

    I just retrieved my old, dusty picture book of Snow White & the Seven Mean Dwarfs from a box in the attic. I guess the King & Prince were mean and yelled at her too, but I don’t know because there’s a couple pages ripped out – isn’t that weird – and I’m certain that’s the part about the horribly abusive battering by someone relevant in Miss White’s life. Anyway, I sure wish I could see the pictures that would have been on those ripped out pages….Chrissie, nudge, nudge, wink, wink! It would help cleanse my mind of the evil one’s portrayal of said horror. (btw that drawing sold in January. Wouldn’t doubt if the buyer tries to re-sell it now that Snow White is out of the bag, so to speak. And no, prisoners should not be allowed to gain financially from their deed(s)!!)

  151. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 12:23 pm

    NancyB :
    She finally thought she better take the jurors temperature because she had been totally focused on Juan and had not spoken to them yet.
    Some court watchers from the gallery have all posted the same thing! That not one
    juror was cracking a smile or laughing (as she and perky persistently had giggle moments yesterday even though there is NOTHING funny about being in court in a murder trial) and when she turned toward them as you describe above not one juror was nodding or smiling. None.

    I hope very much that the jury is noticing and not appreciating Wilmott’s little giggles. What is that? She acts like she’s at a freakin’ tea party! And LaViolette and Wilmott matched yesterday too, although in different shades of blue. Jodi seemed to be specifically trying not to look like Wilmott– dressed in red, hair pulled back. The defense is obviously aware of the attention the matchy, matchy stuff between Jodi and Wilmott has been getting.

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/05/2013 at 12:50 pm

      I guess you could say Wingnut and laToilet are acting like they are at The Madhaters Tea Party. Just saying!

  152. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 12:27 pm

    Syntara :
    I say orifice check that damn mitigation ‘expert’ there’s something wrong with that woman she is acting like Jodi’s BFF. I wonder if she hasn’t got her eye on some big $ after the trial in a numer of pies.

    I also noticed her burst out laughing when LaViolette made her “Are you angry at me, Mr. Martinez?” comment.

    • Nienna
      04/05/2013 at 12:28 pm

      I noticed that too!

  153. Nienna
    • Nienna
      04/05/2013 at 12:37 pm

      All I can say on dad’s interview is WOW. Although, I do find it strange that he says “was my daughter”, “was strange”.

  154. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 12:36 pm

    Robert in Rotterdam :
    There is a French saying -” l’esprit de l’escalir”- which means roughly the “ghost going down the stairs” and which is used colloquially to mean, Damn, I shoulda said this and that as one walks down the stairs away from an encounter.
    I dont necessarily disagree with my surprise at his “tone” but I agree with Observer that it brought all HER qualities out and by HIM having an uncharacteristic attack, he produced a characteristic response.

    I know, Robert, I admit I was engaging in a bit of Monday morning quarterbacking. His tone didn’t aggravate me as much as how he got lost in his questioning, when he was trying to make his comparison between Snow White and Jodi. I thought LaViolette was effective in pointing out that she never used the continuum in her Snow White seminar and she used that as a catchy title. Maybe he could have said, “Oh, so are you in the practice of misrepresenting your seminars?” Sorry, more l’esprit de l’escalir! I’m sorry, can’t help it. 🙂 I just think sometimes he gets his teeth into something, like the pit bull that he is, but then he can’t let go. Not always, sometimes he’s pretty good at moving on to the next point, just not so much yesterday, in my opinion. I don’t mind his tone, let me make that clear, I think it’s his style, it’s just that he makes me very nervous when he seems like his anger is veering a little out of control. I just don’t want him to lose it and make any big mistakes!

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 1:39 pm

      Lisa–I get what you’re saying. If I am honest with myself, I think I also winced a bit when he “seemed”to take HER bait. But, frankly, asking him to be cool and collected at that time of the day, after that much garbage and before a long weekend, is really expecting too much. Since we are all Juansters, it’s hard to be objective. I’m sure he had a few “lésprit de léscalir”momenst himself this weekend!

  155. Nienna
    04/05/2013 at 12:45 pm

    LOL…

    @DarkestKnight791h
    Wilmott was like Objection, relevance, argumentative, whopper with cheese no pickles, milkshake. Judge , “overruled.” #jodiarias

    • Lisa M
      04/05/2013 at 12:56 pm

      Yeah, I was very happy that the judge continually overruled her, until she asked to approach. Also noticed how smug Jodi was until the judge kept overruling Wilmott and so Jodi begrudgingly returned to her drawing.

      • Nienna
        04/05/2013 at 1:01 pm

        JA was smirking when Lavalamp asked the question about being mad and JA was scanning the jury box. Her smirk quickly disminished, I’m assuming she didn’t get the response from the jury she was hoping for 🙂

    • Schaeffer
      04/05/2013 at 1:57 pm

      I agree! I expected to see her dig through her piles of papers, looking for her crib sheet, muttering, “Damnit, I know I wrote down a bunch of words to use in court, Let’s see, I think maybe foundation? relevance? argumentative? asked and answered?” then shoot a nervous look to WOBO and Nurmi like “Is she buying any of these words? Can you help me out here? Should I say migraine? It worked once before, I think!” It was a joke!

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:51 pm

        LOL!

  156. Nienna
    04/05/2013 at 1:04 pm

    @trialwatcherja8m
    #jodiarias Alyce’s supervisor, Charles Stockton, had his license revoked in ’97 for sexual indiscretions with patient http://articles.latimes.com/1997-03-27/local/me-42770_1_long-beach-therapist

  157. MMD
    04/05/2013 at 1:26 pm

    Ok I have taken a step back and tried to be calm and rational about this but I can’t so I need to get this out again!!!! (just picture the banging the keys on my laptop are taking – not good 😦 )

    I think that it is reprehensible that that skank JA is allowed, somehow, some way, to sell her crappy doddles on e-Bay and that this is all going on in COURT under the nose of her attorneys (who should know better but considering who they are…….) and the judge!!!!!

    WTF hasn’t JM jumped all over this? It can’t possibly be legal!!!! While she is not convicted yet, she is incarcerated and on trial for her life and should not be allowed to be doing “for profit” drawings while sitting in the courtroom playing the innocent freaking victim along with her disrespectful mother and auntie. And we certainly can’t forget the he/she/it Donovan as well as any other supporters she has.

    It’s bad enough that we had to listen to lies as she weaved her oh so pitiful tale for soooo many days encouraged by the slothful Wurmi. But NOW, now, we have had to put up with Gidget and ALV doing untold harm to true domestic violence victims while at the same time completely trashing the true victim, Travis Alexander’ reputation as well as his entire family who had to endure this!!!!!!!! This is all on top of Dr. Quack!!!! As someone said, it’s like a bad car accident that you can’t look away from, because you couldn’t write this amount of scuzzy and inappropriate behaviour if you tried, No one would believe it. The entire defense team, and that includes the very inappropriate Mitigation Specialist plus anyone else associated with them are truly bottom feeders of the worst kind. All the while, JA is just loving every damn minute of it!!! What she gets away with simply because she is the defendant and it is a DP case is truly atrocious!!!

    In the meantime the Alexander family and friends have shown class, integrity, character and faith, all while listening, espressionless, to this trash being spewed, all in order to get the truly deserved justice for their brother Travis.

    Now to find out that this skank is making money off her doodles in court!!! I am soooooooooooooooo offended that I am about to have a stroke!!!! This is so so wrong on so many levels and those that have helped her accomplish this, should be truly ashamed of themselves if they are even capable of that feeling!!! Plus it should not be legal and those that are helping her should be thrown in jail and the key thrown away!

    It’s wrong, wrong, wrong and needs to stop!!!!! (damn I wish I could bold on this blog :-()

    ok, that’s all for now folks but I’m still furious………………………………………………….. hands on hips and pacing!!!!! 😦

    • Marilyn N
      04/05/2013 at 1:48 pm

      But who in their right mind would buy this stuff????

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 1:54 pm

        some fool paid $885.00 for it!!! and then will probably turn around and resell it for twice as much. Sold in one day and bidding started at $250

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 1:50 pm

      ‘MMD- of course, THIS is the place to vent, but, my guess is that the problem is more how is she getting things out rather than her right to sell the items.I mean until she is convicted she;s got the same rights you have in many regards. I know in NY, the “Son of Sam”law says that any money made by the convicted one will go to the victims. AZ I dunno.

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 1:55 pm

        That’s what infuriates me so much Robert is how the hell she is getting this stuff out under everyone’s noses???????????

      • Schaeffer
        04/05/2013 at 1:59 pm

        Arizona does have Son of Sam laws. I checked early on.

    • LindaLou
      04/05/2013 at 2:05 pm

      MMD, are you ok? You just got to keep thinking that when this is all over, this girl is not going anywhere. Let her make all the money she wants from those damn drawings. This best it’s going to do for her is maybe get her a little better food from the vending machines in prison and maybe a nice grave plot rather than a pauper’s grave. Not a lot to look forward to for the Joster. 🐍

      • MMD
        04/05/2013 at 2:10 pm

        Sorry LindaLou, not making me feel any better but ty for trying. She has gotten far, far too much in the 5 years that Travis did not even get to live. I just want her dead and now, not after 20 years of appeals. Just want her to stop breathing and existing and I have NEVER felt this way before. I am so not a proponent of the dp and glad we don’t have it here in Canada.

    • kristin
      04/05/2013 at 3:09 pm

      Does eBay have a policy against selling murderabilia? I swear I thought they did and that’s why there are websites that are murderabilia stores. Please enlighten me:)

      • Nienna
        04/05/2013 at 3:25 pm

        Maybe we could all file a petition!

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 3:27 pm

      It’s truly unfathomable that it continues to be allowed! That snow white drawing was sold in Jan. Several more were sold that month. Huff Post and other media outlets began to cover it. Since that time many people have continued to contact Ebay and all of her colored drawings done prior to incarceration and pencil sketches done in court and all signed by her have been taken down. I do believe that there are several more sketches that she’s “produced” sitting in court that are still up on Ebay but under a pseudonym, so that it’s not easily connected that she is still selling her “artwork”. Please do deep breathing MMD, we can’t afford to not have you in top notch fighting form and with your delightful sense of humor intact!!! That is not to say that rants don’t have therapeutic value. That’s one of the reasons that we all ended up here and found our home with Donchais!

      • NancyB
        04/05/2013 at 3:34 pm

        Forgot to say that the reason I think that more of her courtroom sketches are still up on Ebay but under a pseudonym is because they LOOK like her other drawings that she had signed. The style is identical, IMO.

      • Lisa M
        04/05/2013 at 4:23 pm

        It absolutely shouldn’t be allowed because that means she’s making money off of the taxpayers’ money if she’s doing her dooling in court during her trial. It’s like double dipping.

  158. Schaeffer
    04/05/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Since I know many of you are casting about for something to do to fill the void while the courtroom is dark for 3 days, and since NONE of us want to review any of LVs testimony other than the last little bit on Thursday, I have a job for somebody other than me. (I am quite busy with another project. Stay tuned!)

    I found a video on youtube, where someone has gone to a lot of trouble to compile all the shower photos in the right order and showing all the time stamps. I do not own a camera or a cell phone, so I don’t know squat about taking pictures. However, I do recall Juan eliciting testimony that to delete a photo on Travis’s camera was a 5 step process, and I do have a basic grasp of time. Given these parameters, I calculate there were 27 photos taken in less than 7 minutes, with only one pause for 1:56 minutes and another for 1:10. According to the timeline assembled, was there time to pose, take the photos, stop and review the photos together, delete some, and then repeat the process, all while hopping in and out of the shower? Could it be this is yet another hole in WOBO’s story?

    Who would like to figure this all out and summarize for us? This is perfect for those who have theories on whether the the final shower photo was pre- or post-first stab wound, and those who have done movie still comparisons.

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 1:47 pm

      I can’t assist with your inquiry but I can offer a reminder that the report of taking and deleting pictures – together – is all the WOBO’s version . And we know what thats worth.

      • Schaeffer
        04/05/2013 at 2:09 pm

        The story is false, but the photos do exist.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 3:37 pm

      You have done good work at beginning to look into this. I don’t have the time this weekend to assist but if no one else picks this up I’ll see what I can do next week. There is definitely something here that needs to be unearthed.

    • 04/05/2013 at 4:03 pm

      I think it’s safe to say the deletion/reviewing is not part of the sequence. It was done after Travis’ body was put back in the shower and probably resulted in the panic setting in when she discovered the ‘unintended’ photos.

  159. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 2:19 pm

    I’m watching Juan’s opening statements on HLN. Never saw the whole thing the first time round. He’s so calm and deliberate. I think his closing argument will be very effective.

    • NancyB
      04/05/2013 at 3:43 pm

      I’m so upset with myself – when someone posted that these would be on HLN at 1PM I forgot to figure in my PST so I just turned on and have missed Juan’s. I have never seen these and all I can say is JA looks soooooo GUILTY. Have you ever seen someone who is claiming Self Defense sit there with their head down almost non stop with an occasional head up??? And with the expression on her face like she’s nearly catatonic and resembles a dead piece of wood then a victim of DV. Who ever coached her did a horrible job. Her non verbal presence screams GUILTY.

      • Robert from Rotterdam
        04/05/2013 at 3:55 pm

        You don’t have to rely on the TV! You tube has them. Hit arias trial openings. I couldn’t listen to Gidgets, but Juan is great…real “conversational” more than confrontational.

      • 04/05/2013 at 4:25 pm

        yes NancyB that’s how I caught up on the first 28 days. View day on at you leisure. Tawndilly and crimewriter74 (david Lohr channel) amoung others made them all available

  160. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 2:24 pm

    MMD :
    Sorry LindaLou, not making me feel any better but ty for trying. She has gotten far, far too much in the 5 years that Travis did not even get to live. I just want her dead and now, not after 20 years of appeals. Just want her to stop breathing and existing and I have NEVER felt this way before. I am so not a proponent of the dp and glad we don’t have it here in Canada.

    Don’t worry, MMD! Even with all my reservations about Juan’s tactics I do think she’ll be convicted of first degree, maybe even the DP.
    Remember, she’s living in a tiny little cell, with a toilet in it she has to share with her cellmate. She’s eating disgusting food, minus whatever she gets at canteen, and she’s got to get up at 3:00am every day to come to trial. yes, she’s alive and breathing, but would you want to share a cell with someone who poops in it while you’re there?! I think not! 🙂

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 3:57 pm

      These images help me cope.
      I would like to hear that they put discredited ëxperts”away for a few months in something like this.

  161. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 2:25 pm

    Never mind all the other restrictions in jail. It’s no picnic for her, I don’t care how much money she’s making through her amateur sketches.

    • Lisa M
      04/05/2013 at 4:12 pm

      And she has to worry every day that the place she’s in right now will be the only place she’ll ever be for the rest of her life. I mean, not literally, because she’d probably get moved somewhere else I imagine after she’s convicted. Imagine all the control over your life you lose when you’re in jail. The small things we all take for granted, and big things like privacy and freedom, too, of course. There are probably 100 little indignities a day that you have to go through. Someone who’s 28-32 knows all the things they’re missing. I think that even if she’s a psychopath and has only sympathy for herself, it’s got to kill her that she’s most likely forfeited her chance to get married, have children, things her friends have done and are doing. It might even bother her more than the normal person because she believes she is entitled to these things. I just can’t even imagine how horrible jail would be.

  162. NancyB
    04/05/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Observer :
    I don’t watch In Session at all since they cut their trial coverage
    and rarely watch HLN. I haven’t seen Beth Karas on HLN at all the last couple of days I have watched the trial coverage. Karas was the only one I listened to because she didn’t put on her defense or prosecuting hat and try the case. She simply reported the facts. Karas was a prosecutor for many years and she said she admired Martinez because he thought “outside the box.” She also said Martinez was three steps ahead of any of the legal analysts.

    Agree Observer & Robert. Karas has my ultimate respect! She is the real deal, IMO. She was a prosecutor in NYC and was already a seasoned prosecutor when JFK Jr took a job in that office. She has said in the past that he was serious about his work and did well as a beginner. Karas’ description of Juan’s thinking outside of the box and being 3 steps ahead of everyone else in the courtroom is quite believable to me. It’s like Juan is playing speed chess and all the other atty’s are playing checkers!

  163. Observer
    04/05/2013 at 3:50 pm

    I can’t help but notice the contrast between the demeanor of Lisa Andrews Diadone and the other defense witnesses, Gus Searcy, Jodi Arias, Dr. Samuels and Alyce LaViolette.

    Even though Lisa didn’t want to be testifying for the defense, she answered the questions respectfully and without getting defensive, upset or argumentative. That’s because she has respect for the court and is secure. The only hint that she was uncomfortable was her sigh of relief when Juan came to the rescue and put her email to Travis in perspective. She turned out to help the prosecution because the jurors asked her if Travis had ever abused her, if he ever forced sex on her and if Jodi was Travis’s stalker.

    Searcy, Arias, Samuels and LaViolette are all controllers and know it alls who love to educate and hear themselves talk. They were very secure on the stand as long as the defense allowed them to educate the jury ad nauseum and blow their own horns, but as soon as Martinez started questioning them and muzzling them, they all reacted the same: insecure, defensive, argumentative and combative.

    I’m sure the jurors noticed their change in demeanor. You didn’t see any change in demeanor when the prosecution witnesses were questioned by the defense.

    • 04/05/2013 at 4:13 pm

      Observer – yess yess yesss.. can’t say the abso.. cos downstairs comment pre-empted but can I say lootely… 😀

  164. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/05/2013 at 4:00 pm

    Oh God I love this description.. As Syntara might say–absofreakinlutely!

  165. LindaLou
    04/05/2013 at 4:11 pm

    Nienna :
    Maybe we could all file a petition!

    There is already a petition to stop this. I think this was posted here a week or so ago.
    https://www.change.org/petitions/ebay-stop-allowing-cold-blooded-killer-jodi-arias-to-sell-her-artwork-on-ebay

  166. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/05/2013 at 4:11 pm

    A random thought. Notice how LaLaGasbag smiled her toothy grin when asked by Gidget if she had”memory”problems? Smartass. 15 minutes later – after telling us how she read all these reports and papers and interviews, Juanster asks her, well, tell me some of the “bad”things the defendant wrote about herself. LaLa stumped. She weaves and ducks, and finally mentions, 4 things -, forgettable – like ‘not organized’ or ‘puts things off”. Thats it. Thats äll”that she remembers.
    If its true that says something; if there are 8 others – more likely – she “forgot”them. So,
    newxt time, let’s she if she grins like Bugs Bunny when asked about her memory.

    • Robert from Rotterdam
      04/05/2013 at 4:18 pm

      Iquote: If its true that says something;

      …meaning if the defendant wrote 500 pages of a journal, and was freely critical of those in her life but hardly mentioned her own faults; and when she did even allude to them, they were slight and meaningless as real criticism, then we can deduce that the journals -as Syntara has told us – are not even intended to be “truth”but more a “cover” for the scheamers plans.So a plus for Juan.
      And IF she did actually write serious flaws or many meaningless ones – then Juan has slapped her little “memory”grin..

    • 04/05/2013 at 4:19 pm

      hahaha!!… yes!!! she had her Bug Bunny impression wiped right off that smarmy face of hers! Plus he got her to admit they were trivial!! or something to the effect, that’s why they don’t stick in her mind! In other words Alice said her assessment is based on minor trivialities.

  167. Lisa M
    04/05/2013 at 4:20 pm

    Robert from Rotterdam :
    A random thought. Notice how LaLaGasbag smiled her toothy grin when asked by Gidget if she had”memory”problems? Smartass. 15 minutes later – after telling us how she read all these reports and papers and interviews, Juanster asks her, well, tell me some of the “bad”things the defendant wrote about herself. LaLa stumped. She weaves and ducks, and finally mentions, 4 things -, forgettable – like ‘not organized’ or ‘puts things off”. Thats it. Thats äll”that she remembers.
    If its true that says something; if there are 8 others – more likely – she “forgot”them. So,
    newxt time, let’s she if she grins like Bugs Bunny when asked about her memory.

    Yes, that’s true! She absolutely did have a problem with her memory! Instant karma. The whole defense team, including Jodi, was quite pleased with themselves weren’t they, when Wilmoot asked her that. Jodi pointedly looked at Martinez in a condescending manner. Wow, you think she’d be smart enough not to do that in front of the jury, but guess not!

  168. Robert from Rotterdam
    04/05/2013 at 4:21 pm

    Sorry. I love this paragraph (from Observer) so much I want to see it again. 🙂

    Searcy, Arias, Samuels and LaViolette are all controllers and know it alls who love to educate and hear themselves talk. They were very secure on the stand as long as the defense allowed them to educate the jury ad nauseum and blow their own horns, but as soon as Martinez started questioning them and muzzling them, they all reacted the same: insecure, defensive, argumentative and combative.

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