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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Forty-Four

04/09/2013

What a day!  Mr. Martinez proved Ms. LaViolette’s CV is less than truthful and her whole testimony that Arias is a victim of DV is based solely on Arias’ lies…so much for being an expert witness!  Let’s see what today brings!

Screen shot 2013-04-09 at 12.46.39 PMCourt begins late, at 9:45 with a sidebar…

Yikes!  Arias and all counsel called to chambers for an ex-parte conference. 

10:02, LaViolette on the stand and jury called.

You made your assessment on what the defendant told you?  I made it based on numerous materials.

You found the defendant to be truthful?  Yes, I found her to be credible and I was willing to proceed with the case.

You found her to be believable?  Yes.

Do you know what secondary gain is?  Yes.

A person can be untruthful if it benefits them?  Yes.

You didn’t consider secondary gain during your 44 hours of interviews with the defendant?  It’s always in the back of your mind.

But, you didn’t come to that conclusion in this case?  No.

Objection…sidebar…

Yes or no, did you rule out secondary gain?  I didn’t rule out secondary gain.

LaViolette keeps babbling and Juan keeps saying non-responsive and Judge keeps sustaining!

Liking this new tact by Juan!  Cutting out a lot of BS!

Did you speak to the defendant’s father about if she was truthful as a child?  No.

He would know better than you if the defendant was truthful growing up?  Yes.

Objection…sidebar…

Funny watching ALV glance to the jury with puppy eyes…lookin for sympathy!

Ah crap…jury sent out for 10 minutes!

Juan playing a tape of the interview with Jodi’s father and Det. Flores?  No, I didn’t see that.

OMG, she wasn’t given that info by the defense!  They cherry picked what she was given to do the assessment!

Objection…sidebar…

This tape is where the father says Jodi was never honest with them since she was 14!

This is something you didn’t know?  No.Screen shot 2013-04-09 at 1.20.25 PM

You would have wanted to consider it?  I would want to put it perspective.

Willmott wants ALV to be able to see the entire interview.

Sidebar…danger Will Robinson.  This could be really risky for the defense.

Willmott whispering to ALV and Juan to Flores.

Willmott now whispering to Arias and looks like Flores went to get the full interview tape?

Jury brought back at 11:45.

The defendant told you about the cuts on her hands because she was cutting apples?  Yes.

Your notes indicate the cuts the defendant had was the result of slicing apples?  I don’t recall if I focused on that, I was looking at the issue of domestic violence.

Did you or did you not believe her story about cutting apples?  I’m not sure.

Let me show you your notes.

Did you verify cutting apples was true?  No.

You didn’t read the police report?  No.

Did you review her statements to police?  A very long time ago.

You reviewed the videotapes?  No.

So you only reviewed the transcripts?  Yes.

You are familiar with the gas cans?  Yes.  Darryl Brewer.

That caused you problems, didn’t it?  I’m not sure what you are asking.

Let me show you your notes.  She reviews them.

Jodi borrowed the gas cans and Jodi told him she was taking a long trip to Mesa!

You’ve been telling us you looked at writings and took it into account?  Yes.

You had an issue with the gas cans because you didn’t believe the defendant?  No,

You had a problem because you believed the trip to Mesa was a last minute decision.  I still believe it was a last minute decision.

Objection…sidebar…

I can’t get over how much evidence Juan is showing the jury by impeaching ALV! 

LaViolette’s own notes are her total undoing!

Hearing the jury will be having LaViolette tartar on toast points for lunch served by Master Chef Martinez!

You could have spoken to Mr. Brewer about what was said?  I was doing what I was asked to do.

So you were restricted in your investigation?  I asked…

Objection…sidebar…

Your investigation in this case is lacking?  No, I don’t believe so.

Isn’t it true you learned the defendant is manipulative?  I didn’t say that.

From the collateral information you learned she was manipulative?  I read that.

Objection…sidebar…

You learned the defendant licked to play the victim?  I don’t recall that.

Well, let me show you your notes!!!!

Martinez is the master of impeachment! This is surreal!!!  The theme from Rocky keeps playing in my head!

Jodi’s best friend from high school was the one who reported Jodi liked playing the victim!

Wasn’t she manipulative after the killing of Mr. Alexander?  Regarding what?

What is your definition of manipulative?  You can manipulate date, you can tell half-truths…

Objection…sidebar…

Jodi getting pissed at ALV! Looks of desperation from Willmott.

So the big question is, will ALV fall on the sword for Jodi or burn the defense team???

Ooops, ALV said murder, not killing!!!

OMG!  ALV just said her assessment is based on, “All of the evidence that I have AVAILABLE to me…”

WTF???? ALV says she didn’t ask certain questions about sex because she’s old-fashioned.

Say goodnight Alyce!                  

Juan is going to play a part of his interview with ALV regarding anal sex…

Willmott asks to approach…sidebar…so much of this carp should have been resolved prior to trial to avoid all these freakin sidebars!

Holy cow…ALV never asked about anal sex because she’s old-fashioned!

12:07, lunch called!

Something going down at 1pm…not sure if in court or in chambers!

Well, guess we’re aren’t being allowed to see ALV review the tapes of Arias’ parents

Don’t know if any of you watched the Mark Jensen murder trial…he killed his wife, Julie, with anti-freeze in her food and drink!  Defense claimed Julie was suicidal and took her own life.

Anywho…a suicidologist for the defense totally supported Julie was suicidal until the pros showed him evidence Julie had notified friends, verbally and in writing she was terrified of Mark and if she suddenly showed up dead, it was at his hands.

Shown that evidence, the defense expert did a 180 on the stand and guess what…that gave the jury the ammunition for LWOP!!!

One of the most amazing legal moments I have ever witnessed!

Court resumes at 1:56 with the jury out.

LaViolette says she reviewed the tape of Jodi’s dad.

Willmott questioning about the parents searching her room because she was growing pot and she lied from then on for their snooping.

Does this have anything to do with domestic violence?  No.

Does it hurt or help your assessment?  Neither.

Martinez claims ALV did shoddy work because she never looked at all the evidence.  Her opinion is flawed and it is relevant the tape comes in.

Willmott says dad’s tape has nothing to do with ALV assessment when he was abusive to her!

Stephens’ rules the State can ask about the dad’s statement, but the witness can state whether it would it would have effected her assessment.

Jury in at 2:07.

You reviewed a statement from the father to Det. Flores?  Yes.

There is an issue of the defendant’s truthfulness from the age of 14?  Correct.

Objection…sidebar…

Martinez goes into linebacker stance and charges Willmott, kicks her finger and chokes her!

ALV only talked to Jodi about anal sex with Travis.  Says anal sex with Bobby Juarez, Matt McCarthy, and Darryl Brewer was attempted because she didn’t like and they didn’t pursue!

ALV says it wasn’t relevant so she didn’t pursue in terms of domestic violence.

You could be wrong about it’s importance?  Anybody could be.

Ahhh, back to the sex tape.  She doesn’t remember when she listened to it.

She believes Jodi taped it, however told Juan that Travis taped it!

November 20, ’12, you already formed your opinion, but went back and did more research?  Yes, I realized there was more information to look at.

Your opinion when we spoke, was there was domestic violence?  Yes.

Why did you go back?  The more info I have the better my assessment.

You believed Mr. Travis taped the call?  Yes.

Juan starring in Chainsaw Massacre!!!

OMG!  ALV just said, Mr. Martinez, if you were in my group, I’d ask you to take a time out!!!!

Now she asks Martinez if he ever saw When Harry Met Sally!!!!

Call me gob smacked!  Can’t count how many times ALV has said, I misspoke today!

Your questions to Ms. Arias about anger were leading?  No.

You asked Ms. Arias if she used sex to quell Mr. Alexander’s anger?  No.
This must be playin in Jodi’s head…
So, bye bye Miss LaViolette Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry

Them good ol’ boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing…

This’ll be the day that I die

This’ll be the day that I die

You know who Dan Freeman is?  Yes.

He’s a friend to the defendant?  Yes.

Mr. Alexander backhanded Jodi as told to you by Mr. Freeman?  Correct.

Mr. Alexander told Mr. Freeman he wanted the defendant to leave, wouldn’t you want to know that?  Yes, it’s important, but I have no evidence of.

If you have that information, what are you going to do with it?  I would have to check it out, but in the global issue of domestic violence, no.

ALV veins are popping out of her forehead!

Afternoon break…

4-12, 4-26 and 5-3 are Fridays and Stephens asks jury to check their schedules so we can hold court!  Praise be!  Should have been done weeks ago!

Jodi and Willmott look absolutely frantic at this point!

Court resumes at 3:38 with Willmott wanting to voice an objection…sidebar…

Martinez shows ALV an exhibit from 9-13-07…Jodi’s journal!

That is something read in regards to this case?  Yes.

Used to come to your assessment in this case?  Yes.

The trip with Daniel and Desiree Freeman, yet she never spoke to either of them!

If the journal entry is untrue, then it would cast a cancer on all the other journal entries?  I would want to look at all of them in that context.

I want to look at the whole picture…Juan says, “I want you to look at the small picture”!  LOL!

Sorry, too many phone interruptions…grrr…

We’re into whether Jodi was a jealous person or not.  ALV says she didn’t see that in Jodi!

Martinez is talking about Jodi going after Bobby Juarez after the break-up and she kept trying to contact him!

Matt had moved to Medford and Bobby moved in with him months later…Jodi continued to initiate contact!

Isn’t that a beginning of a pattern?  They aren’t broken-up.

Mr. Juarez already believed they were broken up?  I don’t know they were broken up.

She went to talk to Bianca?  Yes, she believed he was cheating.

Your notes state that the talk with Bianca happened after the break-up?  I’d need to see my notes.

OK, read them to yourself.

So it’s true the conversation with Bianca and the defendant happened after the break-up?  I still don’t see it as a pattern of jealousy.

Evening recess.

Jury…4/12 9:30 to 12:30 ok…4/26 9:30 to 4:30 ok…5/3 ok, but may not need…told to keep on calendars!

I am totally exhausted, but happy for Travis and family!

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  1. donchais
    04/09/2013 at 7:46 pm

    Trial watcher…may have answer about moderation, but need some clarification…did you switch computers? Did you switch ISP’s? You suddenly are missing your email addy and your gravatar changed, so something is different.

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:25 pm

      Donchais, thank you for an awesome blog and the privilege of venting my thoughts with such brilliant and funny people!

      Your reference to the Rocky theme came to my mind too – but I imagine ALVs supporters circling her with neck and back rubs, pouring water down her parched throat and wiping the sweat off her brow!

    • Trial watcher
      04/09/2013 at 10:16 pm

      Hi Donchais have no idea what’s happened but I did lose my internet connection for 2-3 days and whiz kid daughter was over and laughed her ass off at me because all I had accidentally
      turned off my wireless on my laptop. Once again I got a lesson in the computer basics! The Brat! I Love her! So as far as I know that’s it. TY for the reply!!

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 10:20 pm

        K, your IP addy prolly reset and thats how all the previous info got reset. Let me know if you’re ok and back or if I need to figure somethin else out! {{{ }}}

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 10:26 pm

        Cool! Glad to have you back!

    • md_6953@hotmail.com
      04/10/2013 at 7:29 am

      Hi Donchais….thank you so much for sitting through this debacle … it’s all about Travis and justice for him and his family. Can you explain what a hypothetical is in a court room? Really don’t understand it. Thank you!!

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 8:26 am

        When a hypothetical question is posed, it includes all the facts in evidence needed to form an opinion and, based on the assumption that the facts are true, the witness is asked whether he or she can arrive at an opinion, and if so, to state it.

  2. Cynthia
    04/09/2013 at 7:49 pm

    CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SHE IS SO COMBATIVE????? JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!! WHY DOESN’T THE JUDGE MAKE HER ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS THEN THIS CASE CAN BE WRAAPED UP BEFORE 2014??????
    ALYCE IS A JOKE!

    • Pamela
      04/10/2013 at 2:38 pm

      I agree. The judge is such a wuss. It looks totally disrespectful and inexperienced for her not to manage “experts” and the courtroom. I don’t know if she’s timid, half asleep, or inexperienced. ALV has tunnel vision and is road blocking justice. It’s a waste of taxpayer money and the Alexander family’s time.

  3. MMD
    04/09/2013 at 7:50 pm

    At last!!!! I feel like I have been through the wringer. Hope ALV feels like shit!!! Too tired to be nice!!! Thank you as always for your reporting and for putting up with ALV who has no idea what the hell a hypothetical is let alone her own name. You are definitely getting brownie points from God for doing this and it is sooooooooooooooo appreciated by all of us!!!

    We truly couldn’t survive without you so thank you!!!!! 🙂 {{{{{{{{ hugs}}}}}}}}

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 7:59 pm

      Just gotta wonder how she finds her way back home from work each night…..

      • 04/09/2013 at 8:04 pm

        She just follows the yellow brick road.

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:14 pm

      I agree

  4. 04/09/2013 at 7:57 pm

    My favorite words today were overruled and let’s assume 🙂 you’re doing a fabulous job Donchais, bravo from Vancouver

  5. Anna
    04/09/2013 at 7:57 pm

    The hodi used up a ton of pencil lead & eraser today, not to mention all the trees that had to die to make her paper. That’s funded by the taxpayers. She should have a pen and and a large plank and nothing else. And frankly I want to make her sit in the corner with her pen & plank. Her frantic writing screams of screaming on paper. If I have to even watch her biceps rapidly flex any more…I’m puking. And she’s making a HUGE mess of eraser debris for the janitors to clean up. See who all she effects! ug (I only report on the important stuff. I leave the rest up to y’all! 🙂 )

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 8:00 pm

      No pens for prisoners! the little golf pencils only….

      • Anna
        04/09/2013 at 8:46 pm

        Couldn’t she still stab someone with a small pencil though? Do we not produce small pens somewhere?
        At least, please give me that she has to sit in the corner…

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:32 am

        But she needs a time out!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 8:19 pm

      Anna! 😀 How are ya Sweetie??? Good to see you….

      • Anna
        04/09/2013 at 8:49 pm

        Obviously having issues with double posts…..ack,
        But anyway, great to hear from you!!! I’m a hangin’ in there hun, I promise. How about you?

    • Carmen
      04/09/2013 at 8:55 pm

      She was drawing a picture of someone to her left. She’d stop drawing for a second, then she’d glance over to the left, erase a spot on the paper and make her “correction”. Anyone else catch that? She should not be allowed to draw pictures of people in the courtroom.

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 9:54 pm

      There are such things as “prisoner safe pens” but alas they actually cost more than regular pens. And yes, this particular prisoner could find a way to stab someone with the dinky little pencil, but it would be more difficult that something that was longer, like a regular pen – there are also other reasons they are not provided regular pens, but security is the primary reason.

      • 04/10/2013 at 12:33 am

        That explains why she was written up for hiding pens in her cell. Thanks Jim!!

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 3:17 am

        Hey out there Jim! I haven’t seen you here afore. I’m dying laughing right now to your reply. It’s not good. Difficult to type. Are you serious about the cost of the little pens? And for what other reasons are they not provided, if you can say? You didn’t elaborate on the plank and the corner, however. So I’m holding out hope for a little relief here. Thank you. Nice to meet you and I love your avatar.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 7:28 am

        Hey Anna – I’m the same Jim I’ve been on here for a while – just changed my pic. (most) regular pens can be disassembled – you could insert a note, or contraband and easily pass them around, or easily slip them to a prisoner (like at the defense table). Also, as you know, pens contain ink, which is coveted by “tattoo artists” inside detention facilities. The pens that are “prisoner safe” are designed to be “one piece” and basically self destruct when you try to break them down or open them up. They also are very “bendable” and actually hard to write with. There are some institutions that allow them, and most of those have to be purchased by the prisoner from the canteen…

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 12:05 pm

        I never met anyone who knows so much about prison pen issues and that’s just cool. Thanks Jim! 🙂

  6. Janeto
    04/09/2013 at 7:57 pm

    donchais, I think I have to have my waders go all the way up to my armpits!! AND (if anyone has seen X-Men) I need that metal headpiece Magneto wears to stop the madness that spews out from these “sexperts”!!!!!!

  7. MMD
    04/09/2013 at 7:58 pm

    singing bye, bye, miss american pie……………. LOL

    • md_6953@hotmail.com
      04/10/2013 at 7:40 am

      AL needs a timeout along with wilma!!

  8. donchais
    04/09/2013 at 7:59 pm

    MMD :

    singing bye, bye, miss american pie……………. LOL

    Just change to Ms. V pie, lol!!!

  9. Family of Law
    04/09/2013 at 8:00 pm

    Just saw Donchais gave us a new sandbox, so I’m reposting my “Tata”

    Tata for now all you wonderful people- a million thanks for the company today- couldnt get through this without you all! I must head down to the barn and tuck my babies in, and feed my poor neglected hubby (yes, that was the correct order…poor hubby). I need to come back later, and read ALL the posts I missed…

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:12 pm

      byeeeeee Family! come back soon 🙂

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 8:21 pm

      Nite FofL! Great hanging out with you today! Take care. See ya soon!

    • Anna
      04/09/2013 at 8:51 pm

      G’nite! I can’t wait to go back and read what happened over at the last high-rise building…so many floors to go see.

  10. donchais
    04/09/2013 at 8:00 pm

    Jim :

    Just gotta wonder how she finds her way back home from work each night…..

    I just had to self-censor myself!

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 8:04 pm

      Well if anything, I hope it allowed you to smile – you work so hard so the rest of us can amuse ourselves while supporting Justice for Travis….Thanks for all you do!

  11. MMD
    04/09/2013 at 8:05 pm

    Night all. Gotta get myself calmed down and gonna do it with Jethro LeRoy Gibbs. *****waves****** and {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}} to all!!! 🙂

    • Janeto
      04/09/2013 at 8:09 pm

      MMD, Me too!!!! Jethro!!!! Yessssssss!!! New one tonight…should be good! Thanks donchais, as usual!!!! Get some much needed rest!!!!!!!

      • Tracey A
        04/09/2013 at 8:24 pm

        See ya Janet. Take care! 🙂

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:21 pm

      Is he not the best!!! Love that show and had to give up reruns for this trial. Happy watching. ;>)

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 8:23 pm

      Nite MMD – Had a blast witcha today! Hug the four-legged babies for me! 🙂

  12. 04/09/2013 at 8:07 pm

    OMG! ALV just said, Mr. Martinez, if you were in my group, I’d ask you to take a time out!!!!

    Now she asks Martinez if he ever saw When Harry Met Sally!!!!

    Call me gob smacked! Can’t count how many times ALV has said, I misspoke today!

    LOL that was unreal when she said that! and as for not counting the misspokes… damn straight noone could keep track of those!

    • Moon
      04/09/2013 at 8:25 pm

      well what was worse in all that is that judge only barely slapped her on the wrist. This woman needs fined and repremanded, and held in contempt. at one point i thought she was gonna say ok mr martinez, i’ll say whatever you want me to!

      • Carmen
        04/09/2013 at 9:03 pm

        I so wanted to bitch slap laviolent for saying that and the judge for not being forceful with the bucked tooth wonder.

    • Lisa M
      04/09/2013 at 8:59 pm

      So why exactly did she ask him if he saw When Harry Met Sally? Context??? Because she obviously doesn’t get that referencing a Nora Ephron romantic comedy right now probably isn’t going to redeem her “expert” status!

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 9:03 pm

        Sex phone tape and Sally having orgasm in diner!

      • Douglme
        04/09/2013 at 11:56 pm

        When Harry and Sally were in the restaurant and Harry told Sally he could tell when a girl was faking an orgasm and Sally started faking one…lol…funniest line in the whole movie when another patron said “I’ll have what she’s having!” LOL

  13. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/09/2013 at 8:08 pm

    Oh man Oh man Oh man. I say goodnight to the room and start packing up at the putor to get to bed with the wife who has been understanding of my, ugh, my, ugh, interest in this case. Right as I’m closing shop, in comes the latest donchais! I can’t not read it. So off we go! Great synopsis as usual, very, very witty and fun, and accurate. Thank you. Thank you. Brava!
    .Now at a few minutes past 2am -, which as we know is just crusing through hte desert time for WOBO – I tiptoe towards the Mrs, slip into bed try not to wake her, spoon her,, and just think of Juan.
    OMG! Does this make me gay?
    (Not that there’s anything wrong with it)

    • Moon
      04/09/2013 at 8:17 pm

      hahahhahahahha !

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:19 pm

      you’re so funny Robert, Good night 🙂

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:23 pm

      ;>)

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 8:27 pm

      ROFLMAO!!! Just own it! He makes most of us swoon! You are so damn funny! Nite nite.

    • Anna
      04/09/2013 at 8:59 pm

      If I ever recover laughing from this, I’ll let you know. Good gosh, what a great post Robert! But stop it with that inner ‘oh my gosh, I feel so gay’ thing that our psycho has released into our naive brains. Don’t succumb to her strange suck-you-in ways. Run, do not walk to the nearest wife and hug her with all your might. Nite. And thank you. 🙂

    • 04/09/2013 at 9:05 pm

      RRRRobherrr,

      Do not worry about your feelings towards Juan… he brings out the ppprrrrrrrowwwwww in all of us!!!!

      Sleep well!! *waves*

    • kristin
      04/09/2013 at 10:09 pm

      Women want him and men want to be him lol

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 3:21 am

        no, not ever recovering from laughing to this

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:13 am

        That’s one of the best lines yet!!! 😀

    • Trial watcher
      04/09/2013 at 10:31 pm

      U R too sweet and funny for words. Your lucky wife!

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 10:36 pm

        Dang, moderation again!

    • Douglme
      04/09/2013 at 11:59 pm

      Good one Robert, you are too funny!

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:16 am

      Oh my gosh, I actually pictured that! So sweet! 🙂 LOL

  14. 04/09/2013 at 8:08 pm

    *DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER DANGER*

    If Chrissie drops in with a tiny url entitled “lunchtime” DO NOT VIEW AT ANY COST!

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 8:12 pm

      does viewing it require predeployment of seran wrap and a tarp?

      • 04/09/2013 at 8:13 pm

        don’t, just DON’T is all I’m saying!

      • Tracey A
        04/09/2013 at 8:33 pm

        And a GIANT MULTI PAK OF BARF BAGS! LMAO!

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:24 pm

      Cannot wait for the comments on that one. OMG. LMAO!!!!!

    • Moon
      04/09/2013 at 8:26 pm

      hmmmm ok now ….. gotta see it! (i think)

      • 04/09/2013 at 8:34 pm

        NOOOOOOOOOO No you really don’t!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 8:32 pm

      TOO LATE!!! OMFG!!! That alongside JA’s NASTY WooHa pix and we’ll all be permanently dieting. ROFLMAO!!!! I….I can’t breathe….tears are flooding my keyboard. TG for the plastic wrap! Holy Crap!

      • 04/09/2013 at 8:40 pm

        Trace Nooooo you didn’t!!! oh my lawd at least I had no warning I skipped in merrily… oblivioius to the destruction ahead! No cautionary sign nada nothing zip.. and

        *****BAMMO!!!***** it ain’t purty!!!

  15. 04/09/2013 at 8:11 pm

    Oh, Laviolent is Pissed!!!!!!!!! She’s no expert on orgasms. Ha! I’d rather listen to JVM and Nancy Grace than hear that more damn sex tape!!!!!!!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 12:55 am

      Amen Bro! Me too!

  16. Sam McKee
    04/09/2013 at 8:14 pm

    Love your comments but unfortunately Ms Twinkletoes gets to redirect soon and then our hair will hurt!

    • Lisa M
      04/09/2013 at 9:33 pm

      It will be easier to take after seeing how scared she looked today, and hopefully it will be too little too late!

  17. 04/09/2013 at 8:15 pm

    whats JVM? saw if references a few times yesterday?

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 8:16 pm

      oh just the most colorful of all HLN anchors – stands for Jane Velez-Mitchell…

      • 04/09/2013 at 8:17 pm

        ah ok ty (again)

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:17 pm

      gah saw it referenced sheesh! soz

  18. Moon
    04/09/2013 at 8:15 pm

    janine1256 :She just follows the yellow brick road.

    lolol with carrot in tow.

    • commerce1
      04/09/2013 at 8:53 pm

      I’m thinking she follows a trail of cowpies home. Cause the bullsh*t is spewing…….

      • Trial watcher
        04/10/2013 at 6:29 pm

        u gave me a good laugh and brought back a great memory. I used to send my child money through what we call Money Mart here and our code word was/is “cowpaddy”! Funny how/where good feelings can find you.

  19. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/09/2013 at 8:16 pm

    Jim :
    No pens for prisoners! the little golf pencils only….

    Chalk and slate is enough!

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 8:21 pm

      I’d go for chalk – we can’t let them have pens because your average bic can be sanded into something that’s actually quite sharp….

  20. 04/09/2013 at 8:17 pm

    Donchais~~you are phenomenal !!!! Thank you thank you for being you!!!!!!!! ;>)

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:19 pm

      vickee.. how are you? I hope you are not suffering PTSD as I am currently!

      • 04/09/2013 at 8:28 pm

        Well~~I wish I drank!!!! Do not know if there is a diagnosis for what I have 😉 cannot believe you are still up. But, having anxiety for tomorrow so another 16 or so hours.

      • 04/09/2013 at 8:55 pm

        IM not even gone swimming yet.!!! sheesh bad!

  21. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/09/2013 at 8:18 pm

    Syntara :
    whats JVM? saw if references a few times yesterday?

    Jane Velez Mitchell…..biggest yapper on HLN! She can’t speak without yelling and her segments are the worst because she’s a loud mouth!

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:20 pm

      hello my fav bunch of ladies! hope you are all fine and fit today! given em hell! 😀

    • Douglme
      04/10/2013 at 12:08 am

      Always asking guests questions and then cutting them off in mid-sentence and they never do get to the point they were trying to make. I actually sent them an e-mail and told them she should let her guest finished what they have to say and it worked for a short time but then she was right back at cutting them off.

  22. Jim
    04/09/2013 at 8:19 pm

    Syntara :
    ah ok ty (again)

    Ya know its my pleasure dahlink 🙂

  23. nsdragonfly
    04/09/2013 at 8:20 pm

    quick question….why does Det. Flores sit behind the prosecutor’s desk every day?
    thanks

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 8:41 pm

      Because he is the “Accuser” and the little whooor has the right to face her accuser…

      • nsdragonfly
        04/09/2013 at 8:58 pm

        thanks Jim…been wondering that since i started watching….

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 11:38 am

        I didnt know that. thought the State was the accuser. I thought he was going to law school at night and maybe helping out as a way to learn what Juan does! hahahah I didn’t know he had to be there all the time?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 11:39 am

        also Jim–I was just getting used to the tourquosiey color on your avatar and now I gotta start all over!!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 12:08 pm

        RiR: in theoretical terms, the “Accuser” must be a person subject to examination, and accountability for the accusation. It’s certainly not a common practice everywhere – I think the State of Arizona is literally taking an “abundance of caution” in every respect, as it regards to this case.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 12:09 pm

        arghhh… regards = relates…

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 9:49 pm

      No problem whatsoever. Seems like a tragic waste of his time and taxpayer money, but to quote Charles Durning: “the lawa is the lawa”….

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 9:56 pm

        LOL, I actually knew Durning before he was famous, lol! Little town of Highland Falls!

  24. Moon
    04/09/2013 at 8:22 pm

    yes Donchais.. i don’t know how you do it! my head is swimming. juan was brilliant again and he got so frustrated, but just kept plugging along. Bless you for your great synopsis for us, simply amazing!

  25. 04/09/2013 at 8:24 pm

    ok off for my morning swim… will see you all next session… be good or be good at it! ***waves*** cyas l8r 😀

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 8:54 pm

      Enjoy Syn! See ya soon!

  26. 04/09/2013 at 8:24 pm

    JVM’s voice sounds like that of a wacky morning disc jockey from the 70’s. It’s like nails on a chalkboard. Nancy Grace is a pushy, rude, and grating former prosecutor. But since I got hooked on this train wreck, I pretty much absorb everything I can on this case. Can’t believe my own lawyer hasn’t even heard of this case…

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:33 pm

      I am amazed at how many people have not heard of it. They will soon enough. Have a good evening see you tomorrow !!!

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 9:23 pm

      I must say though Bubble, Nancy Grace has always driven me crazy. She drove me crazy with CA case with her “Tot Man” phony crap. But she seems to have toned it down on this trial. She still gets under my skin but she seems more focused now.

      And JVM, she’s just a screamer and I don’t mean the “good” way. 😉

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 9:26 pm

        *****Snort*****

  27. hottopic08
    04/09/2013 at 8:24 pm

    AL keeps trying to anticipate where JM is going with a question. She absolutely refuses to answer a question. If AL had just turned the boat around today she might have salvaged part of her career. JM was giving her opportunities to slip over to the other side by feeding her evidence that she had not been given prior that would have allowed her to save herself. BUT NO! She is toast! Today, JM buried AL and her JA DV finding in the crater with Dr. Magoo and his PTSD diagnosis! I have no doubt he will fill it in with more evidence tomorrow!

    Now for my favorite tweet of the day:

    “Woah. something hit a nerve with Jenny. She popped up quicker than #jodiarias at a candy sale.”

    Thanks donchais for another great recap!

  28. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/09/2013 at 8:30 pm

    Syntara :
    hello my fav bunch of ladies! hope you are all fine and fit today! given em hell!

    Hi….from the ol’ hens! They popped a cork today because we were screaming at the TV at that old Bag! JUST ANSWER THE FRICKIN’ QUESTION….YES OR NO!! This woman is a disgrace to our generation!! She acts like she’s been living in a cave the past 50 years!! We about fell off our chairs when we heard her say, “I don’t feel comfortable discussing the sexual subjects…..I guess I’m old fashioned!” Hell woman….you grew up during the 60s!! When everyone else was making Love…..you were making War!! (famous saying from the 60s…”make Love not war”). She’s a disgrace to our generation now that we’re all Seniors!

    And what the hell kind of expert does she claim to be if she won’t discuss sex with her clients because she’s not comfortable??? What happens if she has someone who has been raped that she is counseling??? What does she say, “oh well tell me what happened but leave out the sex part I don’t feel comfortable talking about that!” You big dumbass woodchuck!! No offense to the poor animal!

    And HLN……STOP PLAYING THAT STUPID TAPE OF HER SINGING!!!

    • 04/09/2013 at 8:40 pm

      You ladies are so good!!!! Old fashioned my ass, this is 2013 for fluking sakes!!! Who does not talk about sex??? Well she is getting educated now. LOL !!!!!!

    • 04/09/2013 at 9:11 pm

      LMAO.. now see that’s the ladies I love! freakin hilarious and ALWAYS on point! so proud!! 😀

      lol @ no offense to the poor animal!!! LOL! so thoughtful to put that in ladies, so considerate and mindful of the ‘lesser’ species.

    • Chrissie A
      04/09/2013 at 9:35 pm

      Hi Ladies, Agreed re Dr.Loo!!! What a waste of space that woman it!
      Det Flores daughter was sitting with the Alexander family in court today and she can sing:
      https://twitter.com/YouWillNeed2Ask/status/321690694177681411/photo/

      Link to music:
      http://angelaanne.bandcamp.com/

      • Chrissie A
        04/09/2013 at 9:52 pm

        woman *is ~ugh typos~

    • kristin
      04/09/2013 at 10:12 pm

      JA mentioned Astroglide so apparently she ain’t that old fashion lol! U ladies are a pip!:)

      • kristin
        04/09/2013 at 10:13 pm

        Whoops I meant ALV!

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:43 am

      Hey, ladies, I hope you’re enjoying Juan’s slicing and dicing, Jodi’s witness, love it, thanks for all your quips, if I was there, I’d ask to join

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:25 am

      Guess you and I started screaming at HLN at the same time! Aaarrrggghhh!

  29. 04/09/2013 at 8:33 pm

    HLN – Please stop showing the clip of the Joho singing O Holy Night in prison garb!!!! That is my favorite Christmas carol and she’s ruining it!

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 8:39 pm

      ain’t that the frigging truth! I had that trapped in my head all last week – and its my fav during the holiday season!

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 8:55 pm

      Amen Sista! They need to quit running that clip.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:51 am

      My sentiments exactly….was my favorite….but now….UGH! Thanks for making me laugh during this trial. 🙂

  30. 04/09/2013 at 8:46 pm

    You’ll never hear that song the same way again.Smarter that Einstein…

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 10:27 pm

      You said something there, BB – but when it starts playing again 7 months from now, I’ll be thinking of the fun I had with all of y’all; not JA…

  31. NancyB
    04/09/2013 at 8:56 pm

    Petition to get ALV off the conference circuit ASAP! Please Sign

    http://www.change.org/petitions/end-abuse-long-beach-remove-alyce-laviolette-from-their-guest-speakers

    I believe this is the same location of the petition for “Travis Alexander’s Law” – this is a fight that needs to be won, and maybe we can all be part of achieving something positive in the face of such a tragedy.

    • Chrissie A
      04/09/2013 at 9:44 pm

      Signed Nancy tx 🙂 a there is a lot of activity going on in SoCal to oust her. Her CV makes her seem more important than she thinks she is – she never seems to be a main speaker at large events – she is toast

    • Laine
      04/10/2013 at 7:10 am

      Thanks Nancy I signed it and added it to the forum yesterday. The more people that sign the better! 🙂

  32. Lisa M
    04/09/2013 at 8:56 pm

    So I missed the trial today, but I turned on Nancy Grace when I got home, and what do I see but a snippet of ALV telling JM she would give him a time-out if he were in her group! LOL!!!
    That is priceless! And from what I’m gathering from Donchais and from HLN’s blog, JM blew it out of the water today, and was even more effective than he was yesterday. Am I right? I don’t even want to watch HLN tonight because I don’t want any defense attorneys to rain on my parade.

    • njrose
      04/09/2013 at 9:30 pm

      Amazing, isn’t it, the disrespect she is showing Mr. Martinez. And, the defense team, yep they were their usual, snarky selves. Oh, and JA had the nerve to mouth the word “sustained” at one point after Perky objected to something. That whole motley crew is sickening !

      • Lisa M
        04/09/2013 at 9:41 pm

        Yeah, well, that’s the only nerve JA showed today. Let her play lawyer. She was scared you-know-what-less. The more she sketches, the more anxious she is. She sketched through a lot of JM’s questioning, because she was trying to block him out, IMO but you could tell by her face that she was not feeling confident! And she hates being called a stalker! Remember when she gave the 48 Hours interview and she really wanted to set the record straight that she didn’t stalk Travis and she wasn’t jealous. It was killing her today when JM was showing a pattern of jealousy/stalking.

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 9:53 pm

      You are so right Lisa! And you didn’t miss much. It was sheer boredom watching ALV dodge Juan’s questions. But he made his points and steamrolled right over her. That’s all that matters!

      And I just hit mute when the defense pundits are up. No need to hear their pointless drivel.

      • Lisa M
        04/09/2013 at 11:12 pm

        “But he made his points and steamrolled right over her. That’s all that matters!”
        Amen to that!

  33. Carmen
    04/09/2013 at 8:58 pm

    Carmen :
    She was drawing a picture of someone to her left. She’d stop drawing for a second, then she’d glance over to the left, erase a spot on the paper and make her “correction”. Anyone else catch that? She should not be allowed to draw pictures of people in the courtroom.

    Darned smart phone! This showed up twice. I’ll eventually get the hang of this. Sorry for the duplicate posts.

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:47 am

      You’re dead on Lisa (sorry for the word dead) 🙂

  34. Anna
    04/09/2013 at 9:01 pm

    Dang it, I keep trying to catch up but every time I post there’s like 50 more…..stop it! Did I mention I’m old?

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 12:48 am

      Just deal with it Honey! We can’t catch up all the time. I say that knowing I have to go back and look. Don’t worry about it. We all get caught up in life every now n then. Luv you!! 🙂

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:49 am

      I’m old too Anna, we just have to fight our way in 🙂 old, but wise 🙂

  35. 04/09/2013 at 9:07 pm

    “It shows she had a hard time letting go, not controlling…” And ma’am, slashing someones tires twice, would certainly control their freedom of movement, wouldn’t it?

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:32 am

      It took effort/ energy to slash those SUV tires. Practice with the knife I guess. Venting all that rage and anger

  36. 04/09/2013 at 9:12 pm

    What???!!!! ALV doesn’t know for sure that Travis was afraid???!!! Are you kidding me???!!!

    HE’S DEAD MS. LAVIOLETTE!!!! What don’t you get???!!!

    I am losing my mind! I have just entered the twilight zone.

    • Lisa M
      04/09/2013 at 11:10 pm

      So true! I can’t believe she’d say something like that. Does she not recognize who murdered who here? It’s astounding. He wrote he was afraid. But that’s not good enough for her. Jodi never wrote about any fear of Travis but apparently that doesn’t mean she wasn’t afraid. Up is down and left is right.

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:36 am

      I don’t think it sounds right to her when it is repeated by JM but she is sticking to her opinion regardless of the obvious …her ego I would imagine is driving her to continue with her responses

  37. geri5699
    04/09/2013 at 9:21 pm

    Mark Einglish is on Dr. Drew…I can’t stand him . He is so full of bull and so against JM

    • Lisa M
      04/09/2013 at 9:29 pm

      Still against JM? Even after today? Definitely NOT watching!

    • Ginger
      04/10/2013 at 12:27 am

      I cannot stand Mr spray tan lispy know it all.

  38. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/09/2013 at 9:27 pm

    You know why this old bag is combative and won’t answer the questions, because it will show that she KNOWS that she was lied to and made a fool of by JA!! That’s why and she’s not about to admit it to a man (JM or any other man) because she is a Man Hater!! She’s up there on that stand digging in her heels because it’s about HER not about TA’s killing!! She has to be right and she put her career in the shitter just to prove her point. She doesn’t even care that JA made a fool out of her!! She doesn’t have the brains God gave a Jackass!!

    Whew….too much wine today….we got all fired up!!

    • donchais
      04/09/2013 at 9:29 pm

      Nah, you got it right, but the meltdown has begun and as I asked on the blog, will she fall on the sword for Jodi or flame the defense? Time will tell!

      • Lisa M
        04/09/2013 at 9:43 pm

        Time will definitely tell, Donchais, and I hope we find out this week! I also see the meltdown beginning.

      • NancyB
        04/09/2013 at 11:07 pm

        Fall on her sword for Jodi is my prediction. She is a narcissist, IMO, and it is nearly impossible for her to admit she is wrong.

      • Laine
        04/10/2013 at 7:15 am

        I agree donchais, I tweeted as much while watching the trial last night. I wonder when the penny will drop that they are not going to protect her, they willthrow her under the bus as soon as her testimony is finished. She has started to bend to JM in little bits and peices but her fear of losing her reputation is holding her back! She doesn’t get that actually people would respect her a lot more if she just admitted she’d been duped.

    • Lisa M
      04/09/2013 at 9:30 pm

      Amen, sisters! The fact that she said she’d put JM in a time-out says it all!

      • Marilyn N
        04/09/2013 at 10:46 pm

        The time out and her reference to When Harry Met Sally – LOL!!!!!!!

      • Douglme
        04/10/2013 at 12:26 am

        I was at worked and missed that comment. Why would she have put him in a time-out?

  39. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/09/2013 at 9:27 pm

    Juan is all for Travis and I believe justice will be done. It is about time all truth comes out and cannot wait until closing arguments.

    • Lisa M
      04/09/2013 at 9:31 pm

      Amen, Tami! (I’m feeling very holy today! Glory Allelujah, his truth is marching home!)

      • 04/10/2013 at 3:52 am

        you’re funny Lisa, Glory, Glory …..:)

  40. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/09/2013 at 9:28 pm

    And stick a sock in Mark Eiglesh……you have all the answers and the know how don’t you?!! NOOOOOOO!!

    • Ginger
      04/10/2013 at 1:36 am

      If Mark Eigleshs spray tan was murdred he would want Jaun Martinez as a prosecutor !

  41. 04/09/2013 at 9:29 pm

    OK Listen up! Chrissie is scared now… so I’m going to post this. Be warned kiddies this is not for the faint hearted and I hope it posts as an url not a full pic!!! Cautionary warnings
    *here be dragons* *angels fear to tread* *enter at own risk* etc etc!!

    Lunchtime:https://twitter.com/PlanetChrissie/status/321770953774358528/photo/1

    • donchais
      04/09/2013 at 9:31 pm

      Oh good god!

      • 04/09/2013 at 9:32 pm

        LOL I warned you!

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 9:32 pm

        Geez, pass the bleach!

      • 04/09/2013 at 9:37 pm

        ROFLMAO!!! not purty is it??? hahhahaha ok really going for a bit now my work is done 😀 (sorry for lowering the standard of your wonderful site Donchais, but it HAD to be done. (not the denigrating the posting!) 😉

      • Janeto
        04/09/2013 at 11:13 pm

        Oh my goodness!!! That’s one “Ccc chunk of a man there!” LMAO!!!!

      • 04/10/2013 at 3:05 am

        I could have done without having that image emblazoned in my memory banks. I actually thought his purple shirt went very well with the testimony about the Purple whatever restaurant… not the kind of advertising/PR these places want. “Jodi Arias _______’ed here”… For certain, everyone needs a fork to stick in the shrinking violette as she is completely DONE.

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:02 am

        Peel me a grape…..ewwwwwww now that’s badddddd!

    • njrose
      04/09/2013 at 9:35 pm

      OMG, that’s hysterical !

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/09/2013 at 9:38 pm

      OMG!!! He looks like he’s melting!! Ahhhhhh…..we have to poke our eyes out!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/09/2013 at 9:48 pm

      Scared? You should see what I was really thinking of doing 😉 (Although I will add that I was not the person responsible for posting said item on CFJ 😛

      • Tracey A
        04/09/2013 at 9:58 pm

        Yeah yeah yeah. But Syn owed it and stepped up the plate; sailing it right out of the ballpark. It was too good not to share you friggin’ genius you! 🙂

      • MMD
        04/10/2013 at 7:30 am

        Ya gonna post your lunchtime fashion statement darlin’???????????????????

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 10:08 pm

      It appears to be to scale! Gotta be the real thing! So many frozen pizzas met their end….

      • Tracey A
        04/09/2013 at 10:20 pm

        OMG. ROFL!!!

    • kristin
      04/09/2013 at 10:16 pm

      ALV said to break her off a piece of that sweet, sweet ass lol

    • Moon
      04/09/2013 at 10:27 pm

      ahahhahahahhahah ahhhahahhahah oooo mmmmm ggggg

    • Marilyn N
      04/09/2013 at 10:43 pm

      OMg!!!!!!!!!

    • Trial watcher
      04/09/2013 at 10:57 pm

      That would scare the crap out of anyone!! Good one!!

    • 04/09/2013 at 11:02 pm

      Is that Bacchus on steroids? 😀

      Btw, what is up with his feet?? Creepy!

    • Family of Law
      04/09/2013 at 11:08 pm

      Oh ECK! (disregard my post downstairs) just noticed you posted this link! My eyes will never fully focus agai!

    • Douglme
      04/10/2013 at 12:27 am

      LOL…oh my Lord! What a disgusting sight!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:37 am

      OMG !!! Jabba the Hut in all his glory.

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:42 am

      Priceless…Rofl

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 7:27 am

      ROFL – that is soooooooooooooo good. Well I was hoping that he hadn’t spawn any mini-(exlg Wurmis) but I guess we now know the answer!!! No crown jewels to be found anywhere!!!!!!!!!!! Thank the good Lord and thank you Syn for posting!!! Chrissie is pure genius – when is she coming back???????????

  42. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/09/2013 at 9:35 pm

    Syntara :
    OK Listen up! Chrissie is scared now… so I’m going to post this. Be warned kiddies this is not for the faint hearted and I hope it posts as an url not a full pic!!! Cautionary warnings
    *here be dragons* *angels fear to tread* *enter at own risk* etc etc!!
    Lunchtime:https://twitter.com/PlanetChrissie/status/321770953774358528/photo/1

    OMG!!! He looks like he’s melting!! Ahhhhhh…..we have to poke our eyes out!!!

  43. Lisa M
    04/09/2013 at 9:36 pm

    donchais :
    Sex phone tape and Sally having orgasm in diner!

    Oh, please! Showing her bias again! Comparing Jodi to Meg Ryan? Because she’s what, America’s sweetheart?

  44. donchais
    04/09/2013 at 9:40 pm

    OKAY, from my bud David Lohr re Manifesto:

    Martinez interjected that Arias’ writing of a manifesto appears to go against the idea that she lacks self-esteem – something LaViolette previously testified to. The domestic violence expert disagreed with his assumption.

    “No, I don’t think it does at all … She may think she’s a good writer … but it doesn’t mean [she has] high self-esteem,” LaViolette said.

    Martinez pointed out that Arias had asked someone to print out copies of the manifesto because she wanted them signed “in case … she became famous.”

    The manifesto attributed to Arias was not entered into evidence Monday. The contents of it remain unclear. The Huffington Post has filed an official request with the prosecutor’s office for a copy of the manifesto, but an official there said it could take some time for the request to be approved.

  45. Crystal Harris
    04/09/2013 at 9:49 pm

    Hi everyone! I just wanted to keep you posted. I did part 1 of my Dateline interview today. It lasted 5 hours. One thing I really focused on is how detrimental I have ALWAYS believed DV Anger Management groups, like the ones ALV is infamous for starting, to be. I have never seen any evidence that they help, and in fact I have heard from many in the justice system that they are akin to “traffic school” for men in DV criminal cases. It allows them to get off. And it gives women a rationalization for going back to that man, thinking he is “getting help”. That is what happened to me the first time my husband hit me.
    Anyway, I didn’t specifically mention ALV as I was speaking about the topic as it related to my story, but what I said totally discredits her life’s work. And I’ve been saying it for years!
    Just thought I’d let ya’ll know while we’re on the “bash ALV” bandwagon. 🙂

    • donchais
      04/09/2013 at 9:53 pm

      Bless you and thank you!

      • 04/10/2013 at 3:11 am

        Anyone who has been subjected to dangerous abuse and gotten free of it knows what damage ALV is doing to the cause of domestic abuse with her Testiphony… she deserves to be censored and censured and prevented from EVER maligning Snow White again, that social-working, launderess for those Little Guys. The carnage she has created in the court system will have long-term ramifications for spousal/partner abuse for years to come.

    • Tracey A
      04/09/2013 at 10:07 pm

      Right ON Crystal! Great job! I can’t wait to see the Dateline interview. Keep us posted on the air date if you find out.

      And, while we all are on the “bash ALV” bandwagon (rightfully so) she’s done a monumental job of screwing herself. I think we just enjoy giving her “kudos” for the fine job she has done at destroying herself and her career. 😉 All the while being a sucker for JA. Couldn’t get any better..

    • Moon
      04/09/2013 at 10:08 pm

      Hi Crystal. Please let us know when your dateline show will be on. I am so sorry that you had to endure the horror of true DV.

      • Crystal Harris
        04/10/2013 at 3:16 am

        Thank you. At this point I’m told my story is scheduled to air in June, but I’ll keep you posted. There is still so much work to be done. I’m very impressed with how comprehensive Dateline is with all the information they gather, from lots of collateral interviews, to the footage they’ve gathered over the time I spent passing my law last year, AB1522, to a complete second interview theyre gonna do in a few weeks in a different setting regarding my legal efforts, as opposed to the crime itself and my “survival” story, etc.
        But NBC was late to my story. It was actually ABC that had followed my story from the beginning. The local ABC station followed the criminal trial of my husband, and has court footage. Theyre the only ones who did. NBC tried to get the court footage from ABC, but they wouldn’t agree. ABC was going to do a story on 20/20, but changed their mind and later did a 12 min Nightline story. But whatever! 🙂

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/09/2013 at 10:12 pm

      Good Job! The more they hear about the damage this does maybe one woman or man will be spared the anguish you and many others have been through.

    • njrose
      04/09/2013 at 10:51 pm

      Thank you for sharing your story, Crystal. I hope that your experience with Dateline helps you continue in your healing process.

    • Chrissie A
      04/09/2013 at 11:12 pm

      Excellent Crystal!! Very classy of you not to mention ALV, she really is a non-event in regards to helping the true victims of DV – very proud of you and all that you do ~hugs~

    • Ginger
      04/10/2013 at 12:31 am

      Thank you for leading the fight Crystal.

    • 04/10/2013 at 12:55 am

      Kudos to you for continuing your fight against DV. ALV will get her comeuppance. awaiting your segment!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:57 am

      well, here’s a perfect example, of how flawed it is, she testified in 10 court cases, I would ask for a retrial if I was one of those 10 people

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:47 am

      Keep us posted as to airing time so that we can all view the show.

    • Laine
      04/10/2013 at 7:25 am

      Thanks Crystal, you are incredibly brave. I hope the dateline story is shown in the UK I would love to watch it. I applaud your ongoing fight for all survivors involved with all and any kinds of abuse. You are a true inspiration.

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 7:35 am

      Thank you Crystal for saying that and for talking to Dateline. It’s soooooooo important to keep this topic on everyone’s radar especially with the damage that ALV has done and is doing??? Feel better after today????? When do you finish and have they given you any idea of an air date yet????
      {{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}

  46. Lisa M
    04/09/2013 at 9:57 pm

    Robert of R: “Matt McCartney is sounding like the Kato Kaellin of this horror.”
    LOL, and yes, it is truly a horror.

  47. Moon
    04/09/2013 at 10:06 pm

    just watched dr drew. he will have a lip reader on tomorrow! I figured with all the tape avail of judge hodi talking, that the lips readers would be at the ready! yes can’t wait. Hodi doesn’t know what remorse is, let alone show it. i hope the last thing the jurors see are the death photos. Juan will no doubt drill the pre-med home during close.

  48. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/09/2013 at 10:14 pm

    Funniest quote of the day we found today on Wild About Trial:

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Let’s all start forming a line and kick Nurmi in the balls!

    ha ha ha ha!!

    • donchais
      04/09/2013 at 10:16 pm

      Can we wear cleats?

      • Tracey A
        04/09/2013 at 10:19 pm

        LOL!!! I’m bringing my steel spiked ones.

      • 04/10/2013 at 3:15 am

        I don’t hold the same level of animosity for Mr. Nurmi that y’all seem to feel you must express. He wanted to get off this case very badly, but he could not. I think when it is all over we should award him some day-spa treatments so he can have some cleansing massages to get the slime off him and start his own business back up.

    • Family of Law
      04/09/2013 at 11:48 pm

      What balls? (I believe they’re not yet descended).

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 12:38 am

        OMG! LMAO! You go Girl!

  49. kristin
    04/09/2013 at 10:20 pm

    At one point during the trial late today I saw JA blatantly roll her eyes while Juan was discrediting ALV. Uhhh does she realize the jury can frickin see her?? The jury was back in the court room. Her arrogance is stinkng up the place.

  50. 04/09/2013 at 10:22 pm

    Can someone please explain to me why JA’s interrogation tape cannot be shown to the jury in full? That tape is so damning.

    I think they showed more video of Casey Anthony’s interrogation than Jodi. Of course, we all know what good that did in the end.

    • Jim
      04/09/2013 at 10:33 pm

      Ya just answered your own question – our system of justice “looks out” for the poor, poor Jodi’s of the world by not allowing evidence deemed to be “too prejudicial”. Besides, you don’t want the jury to see her like that – they will think she’s friggin nuts, and not sentence her to death…

      • 04/09/2013 at 10:58 pm

        Yeah, you’re right. But sometimes evidence is prejudicial for a reason – it’s the truth. Horror of horrors!

        Btw, HLN is showing the correlations between the movie Psycho and the killing of Travis! It is eerily uncanny!!!! Wow!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 12:37 am

        Whoa! Is that you “Jim” rocking a new look! Very subtle. Dig it!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 7:44 am

        Yup! 🙂 it’s me!…just flying my “smoking hot J” now that I’ve figured out how to change the little picture…

  51. Tracey A
    04/09/2013 at 10:22 pm

    donchais :
    Geez, pass the bleach!

    For Wurmi or your eyes. I’m guessing both…

  52. Tracey A
    04/09/2013 at 10:35 pm

    Anna :
    Obviously having issues with double posts…..ack,
    But anyway, great to hear from you!!! I’m a hangin’ in there hun, I promise. How about you?

    Oh I’m good! Thanks for asking. Love it when you pop in. {{{{hugs}}}}

  53. Family of Law
    04/09/2013 at 11:05 pm

    Syntara :
    *DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER DANGER*
    If Chrissie drops in with a tiny url entitled “lunchtime” DO NOT VIEW AT ANY COST!

    Okay, I’m scared, and curious! (that kills cats ya know). How did you see this grizzly sight, if Chrissy didn’t post it here? (I know I’ll regret asking).

    • 04/09/2013 at 11:11 pm

      Kinda made me lose my lunch!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 1:19 am

        I tossed my cookies too! The brilliance of it all.

  54. Trial watcher
    04/09/2013 at 11:09 pm

    Well all this has been one helluva a day and especially for Juan. Can u imagine having to question a person whom is doing everything to avoid the obvious answer? I think Juan is a man with serious control. I admire him a lot and I have every faith in him that he will get this woman convicted. In the end Jodi Arias will get at least LWOP and with Juan’s huge effort lets all pray for the DP which is what she truly deserves! Travis is waiting for his justice, lets hope he’s not disappointed!
    Hugs to the Alexanders for their daily courage! xo

    • donchais
      04/09/2013 at 11:11 pm

      Still in mod…why?

      • Trial watcher
        04/09/2013 at 11:28 pm

        Am I ? No idea whats up with this

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 1:20 am

      You are just bad TW! Luv ya. You crack me up…

  55. donchais
    04/09/2013 at 11:10 pm

    Family of Law :

    Syntara :
    *DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER DANGER*
    If Chrissie drops in with a tiny url entitled “lunchtime” DO NOT VIEW AT ANY COST!

    Okay, I’m scared, and curious! (that kills cats ya know). How did you see this grizzly sight, if Chrissy didn’t post it here? (I know I’ll regret asking).

    Must know conspiracy film maker Oliver Stone…go with the flow, lol!

    • Family of Law
      04/09/2013 at 11:16 pm

      Maybe she knows who REALLY shot Kennedy? Lol!!

      • donchais
        04/09/2013 at 11:20 pm

        ayuh and thanks for catching on!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 1:17 am

      Cuz Syn owned it! LOL donchais! TY Girl

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 3:31 am

        phfffffttttt….

  56. 04/09/2013 at 11:24 pm

    Anyone notice how Alyce Lost.in.Wonderland tries to belittle Martinez a bit, by saying “If you were in my group, I would ask you to take a time out Mr. Martinez.” OMG…The nerve!!! Really, who does she think she is??? Everything that comes (or doesn’t come) out of her mouth, makes me dislike her more and more. She is clearly very biased in her assessment and is fighting her point to the bitter end. I can’t believe she actually believes she thinks she is entitled to speak to Martinez that way. I can see why her and the defend-ANT are on the same team, both Evasive Masters.

    • Douglme
      04/10/2013 at 1:05 am

      I don’t understand how she gets away with talking back to Juan like that? I have never heard such disrespect in the courtroom without being admonished by the Judge and it seems to keep happening without a word from the Judge.

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 1:50 am

        None of has Mel. It’s just shameful to watch it. But Juan is onto her! Steamrolled her today.

  57. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/09/2013 at 11:41 pm

    It looks to me that the Jury would not think to highly of Alice and wonderland. Lol. I cannot wait to hear their questions they have for Alice. What Travis called Jody in his email was truth and I think it really angered her to the point she planned to kill him, so she could turn everything around on him and make him look bad, but Juan is not done he will flip it back around to Jody for Travis. She is who she is and I believe she will lose it in the end, but not to sure.

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 1:01 am

      Ya THINK???? Wow! What is up here???

  58. Moon
    04/09/2013 at 11:41 pm

    OH MY!! I keep rewatching Juan in action, still on one of them, juan vs hodi. he reads from her diary, the time she was telling TA in the car that she was going to move back to Yreka and he supposedly back handed her (yeah right) and in her diary she says “this will be good for both of us it will help to close the gap” juan says what are you talking about. blah blah blah from hodi. Juan says “oh so you are not going to have sex anymore” hahahhahahahahha yes juan, you’re right, she’s gonna close the gap!!!!!!

    o my face hurts i have laughed so much today!!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 1:02 am

      Get a grip Honey! Same here. Busted a gut! Love it here!

  59. Jane
    04/10/2013 at 12:34 am

    I was a jail nurse and the flimsy, little, bendy jail pencil was used by a female on a female. Her eye ruptured, she had it removed (the eyeball) that night and returned to her cell the next night. No coddling for her.

  60. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 12:38 am

    Favorite line
    Martinez goes into linebacker stance and charges Willmott, kicks her finger and chokes her!

  61. jfjinca
    04/10/2013 at 1:07 am

    Ahh! American Pie…I love that song! And I loved JM today. He was soooo gooood! But that crack from ALV? OMG! I assume she was trying to be funny but it totally backfired on her. All the talking heads on HLN are saying JM should get her off the stand but JW had her on for, what, 6 days? JM has had her on for 2 days? I say keep ALV on for as long as you need to and prove her bias. Go Juan!

  62. Jay
    04/10/2013 at 1:13 am

    I predict new evidence/testimony, previously excluded, will be presented tomorrow about Arias stalking Travis, this to further impeach the witness.

    The reason i think this is because when JM asked LaLa if she saw a pattern of stalking in Arias’s two previous relationships, after ALV gave a noncommittal answer JM said to the judge something like “would this be a good time to introduce what we discussed earlier?” That’s when the judge called it a day. So something new is coming in tomorrow, either from a witness who has relevant testimony, or maybe additional passages from the journal

    • NancyB
      04/10/2013 at 2:51 am

      Thanks for reminding me of that comment! Maybe the 911 call and part of Lisa’s testimony on cross?

    • Laine
      04/10/2013 at 7:06 am

      I heard that too Jay, it seems we are having a lot more evidence being brought in on this cross. The defense has opened communication of various subjects previously excluded and my understanding (although I have limited knowledge of the law!) is that because the defense has now referenced it he can counter it? I have to say they seem to have trodden on their own feet with this witness, they have been selective at best at what they allowed her to review in order to get the opinion that they wanted and in doing so have opened a hornets nest which Juan is effectively stoking!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:40 am

      Jay, I noticed that, too! I think she blew the door wide open for Mr. Juanderful to refute that opinion/claim.. and I think he’s going to drive a Hummer thru the door about those gas cans and her plans to go to Mesa, thanks to her notes about Darryl Brewer!

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:21 am

      What happens when a witness is impeached? Thank you!

  63. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 2:25 am

    Wow! I’m done all. Syn lured me (hehehe willingly…) to the rabbit hole. She can drink me under the table. Time for bed. See ya all tomorrow.

    • Schaeffer
      04/10/2013 at 2:46 am

      Tracey A — see my cries for help below!

      tx

  64. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 2:29 am

    Wondering if it’s just me, but if (and hopefully not when) you tell your dog to ‘shut up’ and he then gets up and leaves the room (I’m NOT JOKING HERE)…are you, or are you not a dog abuser? I feel horrible right now. I’m looking for that frinkin’ hole but I can’t find it. btw, I’m gonna be just landing here for a while, and not making any sense. Oh wait, I do that all the time. my bad

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 3:14 am
      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 3:29 am

        wow. i think one of my ribs just shot across the room because of the force of laughter you caused. I want to wage a formal complaint: and that would be you don’t do that enough. I’ll be the one over here laughing so hard you want to ignore them….:)

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 3:31 am

        and btw, who is ogmail for Anna 🙂 She has the same name as me, I noticed. ROTF and thank you.

  65. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 2:38 am

    Tracey A — HELP!! HELP HELP!!’ the little pattern next to my name changed colors, and I was in the process of changing it to a picture. What am I doing wrong?

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 3:30 am

      Schaeffer, you look like a half empty box of Doritos, what did you do?

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 5:29 pm

      I have no idea Honey! You are asking the wrong person…so sorry I couldn’t help here. But it looks like you fixed later on downstairs. YAY!

  66. 04/10/2013 at 3:19 am

    As I finish up all the trial notes and commentary and evaluations, I just want to say how much I appreciate Donchais for the daily transcript and notes… you rock!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 3:38 am

      I echo that, in all my bizziness today I omitted to thank you Donchais for the brilliant recap, for being here for us, and most importantly justice for Travis and the Alexander family. On that note I bid you all a fond farewell until tomorrow ~hugs~

  67. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 3:34 am

    Anna :
    and btw, who is ogmail for Anna She has the same name as me, I noticed. ROTF and thank you.

    Dogmail for Anna, special delivery just for you 😉

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 3:41 am

      well, no comprendo amigo, but I sure wish I did. Dogmail sounds just right right now. Wait, is there a puppymail, cuz I love me a puppy…big time. Sorry, lost in outer space as usual.

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 3:42 am

        Correction: Amiga!

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 11:09 am

      Okay, WAY too tired and foggy last nite…but looking again the clear light of day, I finally get it.
      Thank you so much for my dogmail Chrissie! btw who is the nice dog talking to and why is he so stern? Is it because he really knows that wonderdog has ripped down those curtains again? jk 🙂

  68. Laine
    04/10/2013 at 6:25 am

    Morning All, I have a question for one of our legal eagles.

    The defense has filed many motions of dissatisfation, i.e. The prosecutor is not allowing us to defend our client effectively…
    We think this evidence is prejudicial so we don’t won’t it in…
    etc…

    As the burden of proof is on the prosecutor does he have the opportunity to file motions for things he’s not happy about? For example:
    AL continued hostility and refusal to answer questions effectively
    Defense disruption of his cross examination which makes it difficult for it to be effective?

    It just seems to me that the defense has all the options here and the prosecutor has all the barriers? where is the Justice?? Apologies for my ignorance!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 7:51 am

      The answer is two fold: He could – but he won’t. JM is a true professional (and their behavior doesn’t bother him like it does us) He leaves it to the court to decide whether any actions are contemptible. In the event she did take exception to something they did, the hearing on such a matter would not occur until after the trial phase and sentencing were complete. Hope this helps…

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 7:52 am

      Morning Laine darlin’ – how are things across the pond?????

      As you know the scales of justice are not exactly even!!! All the safeguards are in place to look after the defendant, sometimes to the detriment of the prosecution. I do think that she should be declared a hostile witness and if the judge had a tighter grip on her courtroom, so much of this would not be allowed. Since she wants to ensure that she is not overturned on appeal, she is pretty much letting them do what they want. At least she chastized ALV about the time out but that was tame compared to how some judges would have dealt with her. And the way that Wurmi is allowed to sprawl out is a disgrace – imo!

      Since Judge Stephens and JM have worked together for over a dozen years I have no doubt that he will bring it home at the end!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 8:17 am

      I think one of the reasons for Stephens not pouncing on these folks, is the fact that her case load was primarily family law for the longest time. She would be used to extremely contentious cases and behaviors.

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/10/2013 at 10:57 am

      I think the defense team will lose all in the end, their negative behaviors are not at all appealing. I also think it is so wrong for them to help Jody trash Travis’s reputation as Attorneys I would think they would have respect for what their client did to him. No they want to help Jody lie by saying she was a abused, in which is a total lie. They are not honest, I would not want an Attorney that was dishonest, but that is me. I have no respect for the defense team, cuz of the way they are acting.

    • Laine
      04/10/2013 at 12:48 pm

      Thank you all for your answers,and Jim you are absolutely correct it is my frustration at the obvious hostility I’m sure, more than Juan’s the man is a saint! and has the patience of Job! I’m not as au fait with the legal system as some of you guys so I truly appreciate your responses.

      Hey MMD my lovely, I hope you are feeling well and wearing all necessary attire to ward of the evil of the AriASS. I myself have now also adopted 3D glasses to try to ward off the buck tooth wonder as my eyes and ears were bleeding at the appalling crap falling out of her GOB! Happy Trial watching 

  69. jad
    04/10/2013 at 6:29 am

    WHEN BOBBY MET JODI — (a syllabus for a future love story, of which only the male’s name will change). If anyone wants to brush up on the relationship being dissected by the prosecutor, between Jodi Arias and a couple of her first loves, some of the details are provided. It is very strange that some of what Bobby went through can also be related to what Travis Alexander experienced with Jodi Arias. READ ONLY IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, which is taken from the Trial testimony of Jodi Arias, that involves her relationship with Bobby:

    Jodi Arias did exhibit odd behavior, which can be documented through her own testimony. The prosecutor has detailed some of her stalking behavior that was exhibited in the relationship with the young man identified as her first love “Bobby”. She had visually eye-balled him while enjoying the sounds, sights, smells, and thrills of a State Fair (the summer she moved into town before her freshman year of school). Not only was Bobby unique (dressed in an eighteenth century Gothic style), he was gorgeous. He had long dark curly hair and a beautiful intriguing look about him. He looked the part that she wanted to book, and he was old enough, at eighteen, to control his own life without meddling parents or other family in the way. In addition, he was already out of high school.

    She was brand new to the area, moving to Yreka from Salinas (where she had been born and spent the majority of her childhood). Her father had operated several restaurants, and the family was much better off than most in their new hometown of Yreka. She thought the gorgeous stranger she spotted at the State Fair had motioned for her to go over to him, when she automatically noticed his hand movement. So, [at fifteen and not knowing anyone in her new town] she walked over to him to get to know him. It would not matter to Jodi that this young (visually stimulating) man did not have a job or go to school. He was a hot number. She ignored the two girls [that were daughters of a friend of her mothers] who had accompanied her and made excuses so she did not have to ride any amusement rides with them. However, when Bobby invited her on the Zipper after she had walked over to him, she agreed to go for a spin with him. She actually was able to cap off her night with a shared ride on the Zipper with the young man she picked up that night. It must have been exhilarating for her, especially when she could feel a sense of power because she was the one in a much stronger position, as Bobby had [a problem with his legs that night and had] to walk with the assistance of crutches.

    Like a Shakespearean play, she thought of the moment their eyes met to say good bye. As she would recall, “THEY PARTED”, and she did not see him for awhile. Later, she had to approach him whenever she saw him (even though she testified at that same time that she was SHY), and she made sure she reintroduced herself at the homecoming game she attended. She walked up to him the moment she saw him, and she played a little cutesy-wutesy game with him, where she would describe [on the stand] both of them telling each other they could not remember the other’s name. At that time, Jodi Arias could have felt herself in a superior position (except without admitting the reality that her love interest already had a girlfriend), because she said she THOUGHT that he was seeing another girl. She gave him her phone number, and only then did she proclaim Bobby already had a steady girlfriend. However, his girlfriend broke up with him. So, within a few short months of meeting, she and Bobby decided to become girlfriend and boyfriend. They made it official on New Years. She is now in total control of the telling of the story, and it appears he had no idea what had happened in the whirlwind of her romantic longing.

    She said she loved him but was not in love with him. Although it seemed he was making plans for the future for the two of them, she said that she decided not to be a part of that plan. He wanted to move to San Francisco, and he had other ideas that seemed fun. However, she said they were not what she wanted, and she broke up with him. She knew he wanted to live together and be together forever — hunting vampires with her. She professed a disbelief in what he seemed to want. So, they broke up one afternoon when she was on the phone. She said Bobby did not take the break up so well. She learned a few years later that, because of the break-up, he had slit his wrists to try to kill himself and been committed to an asylum at Citrus Heights, north of Sacramento.

    When Bobby was released, he went home to his grandparents, whose small home [in disrepair] was located in Montague, just six miles from the city limits of Yreka. Bobby did not realize how safe he was without Jodi — OR did he? He must have felt something was wrong with her. Maybe the psychologists, psychiatrists, or other medical personnel had worked with Bobby, and maybe the lessons they taught and the treatment Bobby had received had gone a long way to Bobby’s recovery. When he arrived at his home, he did not contact the person who had been his girlfriend, Jodi Arias. Jodi Arias has told the story that she was the one who had to force his hand in order to make him see her. She said she was motivated by thoughts of helping him because she wanted him to know that one of the patrons at the restaurant where she worked had shared information with her about [the end times and] the Second Coming which he had predicted would be September 23, 1997.

    She knew that Bobby was uncertain about his spirituality. So, to her it was important for him to gather this knowledge so he could make a decision for himself. Even though she considered herself a nondenominational Christian, she put her belief into this old man who she seemed to think only visited her on her shift at the restaurant [and did not seem to have an existence for anyone else]. She felt the need to contact Bobby to share this new-found knowledge with him, even though she was dating another person at the time [who she identified as a Victor Arias from Costa Rica, who happened to be in the United States that month of September]. She called Bobby to tell him what she had learned. He answered the phone, but when she said it was Jodi he immediately hung up on her. The next night, she called him again. But, the same thing happened. She had felt silly calling him since his religious beliefs were not defined. It just seemed so important to her, and they began talking again after she finally convinced him of the old man’s message. Eventually, Bobby became her boyfriend again when she was seventeen, after a separation of a few years [from the time she was fifteen].

    (She broke up with the person she described lived in Costa Rica because she said they argued a lot. In addition, she said she could not see herself in a marriage with this other person. So, she broke up with him. Conveniently, it was October or November of 1997, and she broke up with this person she said she dated [called Victor Arias] on the telephone.) She had begun to develop feelings for Bobby right before Christmas, so she took the opportunity to express her feelings to him (and he would know she was no longer attached to anyone else). She had a car back then. So, she drove them out to [the White Chapel] Little Shasta Church outside of Montague around New Years. Neither her mother or father knew of her relationship. Within four or five months, she would move out of her parents’ home, even though she was only seventeen, and she would not finish her junior year of high school.

    She desperately wanted out from under her parents (who had been restricting her freedom by trying to ground her), and she wanted out right away. She had already moved most of her belongings into her boyfriend’s place, without her parent’s knowledge. Now, all she had to do was make the opportunity — in order that she could take advantage and leave that existence she had trouble with at the family home. The incident of abuse that she reported was that she was knocked against the door frame by her father. She told her boyfriend, and her boyfriend said enough is enough (of the abuse you have to suffer) and invited her to stay with him, even though she was not yet eighteen and he was over twenty-one. She had boxes of books that she did not want to part with, and she put them in Bobby’s storage shed. When she lived with Bobby, he dressed up (for Halloween) like the character in The Crow, Jason Lee, and seemed to be more into the martial arts [and ninjas] rather than gothic.

    It must have been a living H*LL for Bobby without the girlfriend who had shared his dreams before Jodi Arias saw him and decided to make him hers. It was probably not that much of an effort for Jodi to wrap this young man’s brain, when laying her Claim. It was rumored his mother had been into drugs, which made Bobby ashamed of this woman whenever he saw her in town. He wanted to disown her [because of what she might have done to him]. He lived with his grandparents, who were supplying his money, food, and shelter. They were both much older. Within a short while of Bobby bringing Jodi Arias to their home, they developed problems with their health. They went to live in a nursing home.

    Jodi Arias enjoyed the relationship she developed with Bobby. She said she shared Bobby’s room with him, and they did share a special relationship. But, when asked, she had to think about the question to see if she could remember when they had their relationship. She could not remember if their relationship started right before she moved in with him. Then, with doubt in her voice, she said that it might have been right after she moved in with him that they established that special relationship. She fumbled for words before explaining she and Bobby had waited several months until having a relationship. When pressured into trying to recall the matter, she stated she honestly did not know but believed (that during their special relationship) she maybe engaged once or twice in sexual trysts with Bobby because she loved him.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 8:51 am

      Hey Jad–keep on working this! It can be a Joe MacGuinness piece; get into a magazine and then onto a studio!It actually let me soak up the early stages of the WOBO without having to go to the video and actually listen to her.

    • Observer
      04/10/2013 at 9:53 am

      Jad, I love your posts and the way you analyze the evidence and testimony. The trouble with analyzing Jodi’s stories is you can’t sort facts from fantasy. Most of what she said about Bobby could have been made up. We don’t know they met at a fair, that he was good looking, that he didn’t have a job and that he went nuts one day and choked her and hung up on the 911 operator. Much of her testimony was to create a pattern of where she was the giving, caring fairy princess who had a pattern of falling for the good looking bad boy who used her, cheated on her and abused her.

      As Martinez pointed out yesterday, she told two identical stories about customers coming in the café and telling her Matt and Travis were cheating on her. She said both Bobby and Travis choked her and she didn’t call 911 when Travis choked her because Bobby had hung up on the 911 operator. Her stories are fabricated to explain a pattern of abuse and show why she acted the way she did.

      I think when she decided to go with the abuse excuse self defense instead of the Ninjas Did It, she started reading books on battered women and fabricated stories to fit the abuse including the wooden spoon and belt beatings given by her parents. If her parents were abusive, they would have beat her when she was growing pot on the roof and sneaked out of the house. Instead, they called the police when she grew pot on the roof and grounded her when she kept sneaking out of the house.

      Those are healthy consequences that are taught in parenting classes. As a teacher and principal as well as a parent, I learned capital punishment only teaches children to be violent and the healthy consequences to bad behavior are detention, suspension or expelling. Jodi said she was beaten as a child and choked by Bobby and Travis to justify why she was so violent in the killing.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 11:20 am

        Observer: is that a freudian slip above; you meant to say “corporal” I think? But capital works here fine as well 🙂

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 12:51 pm

        I think Jad is going for the “with dramatic license” route over the docudrama way. 🙂

      • Observer
        04/10/2013 at 12:52 pm

        Yes, Robert, should read “corporal punishment.” Thanks for catching the error. I need a proofreader.

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:07 am

      At least Bobby’s story had a happy ending. Unlike Travis. So sad.

  70. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 7:25 am

    Perhaps Alice should be impeached, she is not credible as well as biased, and not only that Jody was not abused so why would Alice be needed. LOL Juan is so correct this is all a fairy tale. “Snow white”.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 2:46 pm

      Can she be impeached? What does impeaching a witness mean anyway?

  71. 04/10/2013 at 7:31 am

    I think I may see the beginnings of a new fairy tale here…

    Little Bunny Foo Foo always thought she was bigger than she really was. The other bunnies tried to warn her, but she would just get snarky with them. So one day she believed that she could fight the Great Juan Shark. So she waded out into the deep waters and soon she was drowning. Then the Great Juan ate her. The end.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 8:58 am

      HaHahhaha. So true, I’ve been thinking that we have to get a “fairy tale” going where the “wicked witch” is a passive aggressive “keynote” speaker who will never ever answer a straight question and who calls you by name 10 times an hour in her seminar voice. The story is that everyone that comes in contact with her- men and women -start getting first annoyed, then angry, then they start battering their mates because they can’t STAND the sound of the witch’s voice when she tells everyone to go sit in the corner for a “time out”. Things go from bad to worse, but then the Juananator comes flying in to take her out of her know-it-all blabbe mode,, makes her back up, dodge, admit little things, and finally, exhausted, she collapses and melts in front of everyone.

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:05 am

        And then the Juananator turns into a prince and everyone is happily ever after!

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 11:55 am

      And DOWN came the Bluuuuuuuue Fairy….. Lol!

  72. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 7:37 am

    Janine, I like your post right on!

  73. Dewey
    04/10/2013 at 7:40 am

    It’s disgusting and amusing at the same time to watch ALV when she hesitates/refuses to give answers. She’s clearly trying to figure out where JM is going in his line of questioning and what he may have up his sleeve. If she’s truly credible and honest, it shouldn’t matter to her why he’s asking what he does. A true expert witness wouldn’t turn this into a game of outsmart the prosecutor. She’s pathetic.

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:24 am

      Couldn’t have said this better. Pathetic indeed.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:02 am

      Unfortunately, it’s not about getting to the truth anymore. These defense attorneys and expert witnesses are all about winning – at any cost. It’s a game to them. It’s sickening.

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:55 am

        Janine, I couldn’t agree with you more! You summed up this trial (and the casmey anphony trial) in one, short paragraph 🙂

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 2:48 pm

      And a true expert wouldn’t say, “The men in my group would think this is abusive behavior.”

  74. Moon
    04/10/2013 at 8:08 am

    Good Morning

    Little did i know when I booked this trip to Reno that this trial would still be going on. *sigh* I hope I don’t suffer too many withdrawals.
    I sure hope I win some big money, so I can send some to the Alexander family. Their courage and stamina is amazing.
    Take care (((all))). see ya in a few days. ***waves***

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:12 am

      Have fun Moon! U will be missed. U can probably catch some of the trial if u feel the withdrawal is to great to endure…

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:17 am

      Have fun Moon! U will be missed. U can probably catch some of the trial if u feel the withdrawal is too great to endure…

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 9:10 am

      Moon-we gonna miss some guffaws from you! Hurry back.

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 11:19 am

      Fill up a few gas cans and take a quick trip down to Mesa!!!
      Have fun!!

  75. Schaeffer
    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 9:09 am

      Um, Schaeffer, I think it was Chrissy who said your avatar looked like a left over bag of Doritos. What’s up? Were,’t you “blue” and a bit more detailed?

      • Schaeffer
        04/10/2013 at 9:14 am

        I have no idea, but I don’t like it. I’ve been fussing with it all night, to no avail, obviously. I’ll keep working on it.

  76. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 9:07 am

    Hello all! Spent a lot of the night having “l’esprit de l’escalier” moments for Juan after LaViolateeverydecorum told him to take an effin “time out”.:

    -No, YOU take a time out, Mam. You are here to answer questions. Judge instruct her on her duty.
    .
    -Well, Mam, we’re NOT in “your group” but YOU’RE in OUR courtroom and you don’t get to tell anyone anything.

    -Thankfully that isn’t the case; on the other hand, YOU are testifying in a murder trial and YOU have to answer the questions. Yes or no? Which is it?

    Mam, that passive-aggressive act might work in your breakout keynote seminars, but not here. Did you or did you not assess the defendant as “not jealous”? Yes or no.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:15 am

      Maybe we can all put our thoughts together and telepathically send her a face slap through the airwaves next time every time she disrespects the great Juan! Wouldn’t that be hysterical?!

      The judge needs to put her big girl pants in and give Bunny Foo Foo a tongue lashing.

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 11:59 am

      Good (Afternoon) Robert- Mz. Toilet just needs to ASSUME the position…

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 12:34 pm

        LOL good one!

  77. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 9:26 am

    from today’s NY Daily News:

    “The eternal question of whether penis size matters to women has been probed by a team of international scientists who reported on Monday that yes, ladies do find larger men more attractive.

    “Since penis size is a sensitive subject, it’s hard to determine whether females lied or ‘self-deceived’ in their responses,” lead author Brian Mautz, a postdoctoral researcher in evolution and sexual selection at the University of Ottawa, told AFP via email.

    “A sample of 105 Australian(!!!SYNTARA?) women were asked to view 53 of these life-sized robot-like pictures, which rotated so they were visible at different angles.

    “The women also tended to gaze longer at the larger men.(!!!WURMI???) But not too long — each rating was made in about three seconds.

    “The women — all heterosexual — were not told they were participating in a study about penis size. They were simply asked to rate the figures according to sexual attractiveness. Their answers were collected anonymously….”

    Reports from Ottawa say that contact was made to a Mz LaLaViolence about participating in the study but she notified the University saying that 1) she was “old fashioned” so she didn’t deal with icky thing slike this and 2) there was no cash in it.

    ,

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:25 pm

      “A sample of 105 Australian(!!!SYNTARA?) women were asked to view 53 of these life-sized robot-like pictures, which rotated so they were visible at different angles.

      *blush* what can I say? robotic penises mesmerise me!

  78. MoVG
    04/10/2013 at 9:40 am

    I have been reading the posts from the site for over a month but never had the courage to post myself. I am happy to know there are people that are just as obsessed with this case as I am.

    I have not formed an official opinion of Ms. LaViolette. I can’t decide if I feel bad for her for being manipulated by Jodi or if I hate her for taking this case due to her being paid a substantial amount of money. Either way I believe her career as she knows it over.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:52 am

      The problem with Ms. LaViolette is that, even if she WAS manipulated by the evil one, she most certainly, by now, should know better. I have yet to hear her concede on ANYTHING, which shows me that she is unprofessionally biased and not at all concerned with truth or justice.

      • MoVG
        04/10/2013 at 10:01 am

        I agree with you completely. However, could she really possibly turn back on her testimony and still hold onto any type of career in her field? I too wish she would admit she was wrong but unfortunately that will not happen.

        I am so thankful that the Alexander family has “Juanderful” to shed light on the huge dump that the Defense team has taken on Travis and his name. It disgusting and sad.

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:44 am

        McVG- if what you say is true, and I believe it is, then how can any “expert witness” be credible? They have no honor, just the right to present their sickening well paid for diatribe. That is not what our justice system should be all about, but sadly, that may very well be the case.

  79. ChiefonaShip
    04/10/2013 at 9:50 am

    Hi, read almost daily (see, THAT’S an honest statement, ALV). Totally sucked into this shipwreck & actually discuss w/subordinates re honest dealings w/dating, recognizing psych-JoHos (we decided that is gender neutral since “Jody” as a name is), integrity (see also selling your soul on international level) So thanks, Donchais and all of you. You keep me laughing while we gnash our collective teeth.

  80. 04/10/2013 at 10:22 am

    What happends when a witness is impeached? Thank you.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 11:05 am

      In the case of a trial, impeachment is (hopefully) the result of the cross-examination – meaning the jury decides that they cannot adopt any reasonable basis for testimony offered. AL’s opinion is being impeached by the nano second by JM.

  81. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 10:28 am

    And today, Down Under:

    A search for a missing woman in an Australian national park came to an end recently, thanks to some good old-fashioned ingenuity. Lynette Joyce Bond, 68, wrote a message in the sand in the hopes rescuers would find her after her car broke down in Australia’s Snowy River National Park.

    She had recently watched the testimony of a domestive abuse expert during a California trial. Convinced that her husband, who she said, had “always treasured her”, is now a batterer, she left the house in a hissy and got lost.They had been married 35 years and he had never treated her with anything but respect and affection. But she now believes, she told Associated Press, thjat all those times her husband was taking care of directions, he was really abusing her with an imbalance of power over travel.

    She was found, after 4 days, next to the word “Help” written in sand. Relatives say that all she wants is to hug her husband and beg his forgiveness for falling for the fairy tale that domestic violent woman talked about.

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 11:16 am

      Hahahahahaha!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:58 pm

      ROFLMAO! you gotta luv us!!

  82. Nancy Pennington
    04/10/2013 at 10:47 am

    Sandy Banks: before you feel to much pity for Wurmi you should check out his website. There isn’t enough soap, water, bleach in the ocean to cleanse this man. Sorry but that is my opinion.

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 11:14 am

      I have a hunch, while Wurmi looks to be relaxing in his lounger, he is really taking in and studying all of JM’s tactics for future use in his private practice……

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 11:25 am

        I thought that yesterday watching him watch Juan. He does need to learn a lot and even before strategy or tactics, if I were him, I’d learn to speak much faster and work on his appearance whilke doing so. He’s a slob the way he sits and grins and sulks about and when he is on direct it is simply painful to listen to him “think” as he speaks.
        But, I figure he knows Juan is whooping them, and we wants to know how he does it.

      • Marilyn N
        04/10/2013 at 11:33 am

        Robert – THe Worm needs to take speed talking classes, that is for sure. Can you imagine watching him repeat everything JM is saying? It would take 2 weeks of Worm to equal one day of JM…..😀

  83. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 10:50 am

    Good Morning everyone!!! Looking forward to all the posts today. I have a quick question. does anyone elses spouse have a problem with you being so addicted to this trial? I told the hubby yesterday i wish i was in the courtroom, he said I dont, I wouldnt ever get any supper. LOL! Gotta love him.

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:59 am

      Yes! My husband and I go to separate rooms in the evening after supper so that he doesn’t have to listen to the trial. 😦 I feel ashamed of myself for this obsession, but I can’t seem to break away from it. I think the evil one has cast her spell on us too! :{

      • Marilyn N
        04/10/2013 at 11:12 am

        I know, Janine! My husband comes home to me watching trial, has to watch the HLN shows with me (sort of – channel flipping), and then he comes up and I am reviewing more on my laptop in bed.
        I know he is secretly paying attention a little bit – tee her!!!

        BTW – Good Morning Everyone!!!🌷

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/10/2013 at 11:22 am

      Yes my husband and brother in law are saying I am obsessed, I tell them no I am very interested in this case and this is the first one I have ever watched. So they leave me alone and allow me to continue to watch it. My husband thinks Jody should get the DP. She is a very dangerous young lady, cuz she will kill again if it is to help her in any way.

      • 04/10/2013 at 11:38 am

        I have to confess…I obsessed like this with the Casey Anthony case too. I think it’s because these two cases mess with our sensibilities and we are trying desperately to find justice.

      • kristin
        04/10/2013 at 2:40 pm

        Ya my husband is into this case! After work he asks me the highlights of the day. He tries to keep an arm lengths distance because the verdict in Casey Anthony trial was so ridiculous. He is afraid there will be another miscarriage of justice. Its hard to find 12 sensible people.

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:59 pm

      my BF gave up and as gone on a 22 day bike ride 😀

  84. Wendy
    04/10/2013 at 10:55 am

    Good Morning everyone!!!!! Cant wait for the trial to get started!! Hope you all have a great day!

  85. JesusFreak
    04/10/2013 at 11:21 am

    Donchais!
    ty for your ‘sticktoitiveness’ yesterday. i work tues and wed swing and missed most of yesterday morning, too. Great coverage. So much better than taping HLN!
    Now i will start reading what the kids said and once again thanks mom.

  86. 04/10/2013 at 11:25 am

    I was just listening in on the last bantering about between the great Juan and the shrinking violet – did I miss something or did Ms. LaViolette use the word “stalker” first, when she said that stalking is a form of fear? I didn’t hear JM use that term beforehand.

    Well off to work! So glad I teach kids so that my brain gets a break from all the madness! (But I can’t wait to get back to it all later! So sad!!!)

  87. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 11:49 am

    Schaeffer :
    Tracey A — see my cries for help below!
    tx

    Good morning Schaeffer:) Do you have a new avatar? I thought you were blue?

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 11:51 am

      Sheesh! Disregard my repetitive nonsense- just read upstairs.

      • Schaeffer
        04/10/2013 at 1:21 pm

        FofL — My avatar changed, I don’t know why, but I don’t like it at all, and I can’t fix it. Can anyone advise me on this? It happened after I accidentally ended up in moderation yesterday. (That had never happened to me.) Is that a coincidence? I cannot even sign into wordpress. Any help during sidebars would be greatly appreciated.

  88. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 11:59 am

    For those of you who wonder why we have a problem with Wurmi this is it. His specialty is defending people who have been charged with sexual assaults, like rapists, pedophiles and the like. The only difference here is that the shoe is on the other foot where he is accusing Travis Alexander of committing sexual assaults which seems kind of ironic since he UNDERSTANDS how devastating being accused of such a crime is. Guess he doesn’t have to worry if the victim is brutally slaughtered.

    And don’t forget, if you don’t want to come into his office after you commit any of these heinous crimes, he offers you a FREE telephonic consultation!!!!! 😦 (sarcasm intended)

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    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 12:06 pm

      G’mornin MMD:). Yup, he needs to slither back under the rock… I need a hot shower just reading his law practice “manifesto”!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 12:30 pm

        lol! “manifesto” is right! wonder how many potential clients show up to meet him and think “oh lawd, i’m screwwwed!”

      • MMD
        04/10/2013 at 12:39 pm

        Morning darlin’ ****waves to all******** have a migraine today but I’m here!!! Hope nobody in the def pulls one!

      • MMD
        04/10/2013 at 12:55 pm

        When I clicked on AZCentral.com there was picture of a rattler and I thought it was Wurmi! My bad 🙂

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 12:21 pm

      Ya, “aggressive” he says – at the speed of 5 words per minute!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 12:26 pm

      No question about it – all this is VERY frustrating, and even painful to watch (especially as it relates to the impact on TA’s family) but I really feel like the antics of this big oaf and his poorly cast misfits are doing the State a tremendous favor – the more off topic they are; the more they protest; the snarkier they appear, the more the jury realizes that the Defense is only resorting to such tactics because their position cannot be supported by the facts of the case.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 12:33 pm

      Thinking back on it – just about every question the jury has asked a defense witness seems to have a hidden question behind it: “what are you trying to hide from us?”

      • MMD
        04/10/2013 at 12:37 pm

        I agree Jim and they have a knack of asking in a way that the attorneys wouldn’t be able to. They get right down to the nitty gritty.

  89. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 12:40 pm

    Anna :
    I never met anyone who knows so much about prison pen issues and that’s just cool. Thanks Jim!

    🙂 lol! Please, please, please don’t let this tidbit be the legacy of my years of public service!

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 12:59 pm

      Jim, it’s a GOOD part of your legacy. I really did want to know all about those damn pens & was truly impressed that you knew the answers firsthand! Don’t leave that out of your cv! 🙂 lol

  90. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 12:48 pm

    Jim :
    lol! “manifesto” is right! wonder how many potential clients show up to meet him and think “oh lawd, i’m screwwwed!”

    All of them 😉

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 12:53 pm

      🙂 ROFL – see LaViowhatever? That’s a re-tori-cal question…..

  91. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 12:53 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Spectators are in place. Nurmi is reclined and waiting for #JodiArias, the judge and jury

  92. JesusFreak
    04/10/2013 at 12:54 pm

    Good morning all, caught up on most of the posts. I can only keep WOHO and ALV straight during the morning session, then it’s off to work I go. Will count on the rest of you to watch over JM and the Alexanders this afternoon.
    Can’t remember. Who found out about the manifesto and do they have a copy we might eventually get to see?

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 12:57 pm

      Wondered where you were yesterday. I think that Arias family has it and are selling or gonna sell autographed copies.

  93. PAM
    04/10/2013 at 12:54 pm

    Couldn’t resist….looked at that picture “lunchtime” and my fingers could not work fast enough to get it off my computer. Barfed in mouth….scary!

  94. 04/10/2013 at 12:55 pm

    Donchais….small request….is it possible to have pictures on your daily report that don’t include Team Defenseless: Hodi, Shrinking Violet, Gidget-don’t-get-it, and Humpty-Dumpty? I have the impulse to cringe, and punch my laptop screen whenever I connect to this site, or refresh the page! Thanks luv!

  95. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 12:56 pm

    Gearlier reading over some of the riffs that went on;day MMD! Ready for Round 4? I got started with some missives earlier, read up , did chores and now back here ready for the “all rise”, I was laughing like hell over some of the riffs from yesterday.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 12:56 pm

      ignore gurgling first sentence

      • MMD
        04/10/2013 at 12:59 pm

        will do! LOL There are some awesome ones!

  96. 04/10/2013 at 12:56 pm

    hheeelooooooooooooo everyone… visitors this afternoon and ooopppsies nearly over snoozed! **waves**

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 12:57 pm

      yeah I was wonderin’; made some down under comments earlier…

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 12:58 pm

      Hi Syn – Can’t start without you!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 12:59 pm

      my cat woke me up! lucky or I’d have slept til I don’t know when!

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:00 pm

      Mornin’ darlin’ – how are things down under?????

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:04 pm

        hey MMD! …. think Ive turned into a Dwarf… feeling kinda dopey…

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:10 pm

      Hello back ~~are you ready for today? Rabbit hole cleaned out??

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:15 pm

        hahahaha not quite some cobswebs still hanging around!!! *waves* hiya!

  97. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 12:58 pm

    So while we are waiting – I now have 18 relevant vocabulary words to google, print, and mail to AL (one at a time, or course) Anybody have anything they want AL schooled on while I’m at it?

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 12:59 pm

      O R G A S M

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 1:00 pm

        🙂

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 1:00 pm

        Good one! I didn’t have that one! TY!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:00 pm

      hey Jim.. is that a burning for Juan avatar? 😛

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 1:01 pm

        He is certainly welcome to my little trade mark – actually very fitting for him, isn’t it?

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:05 pm

        I thought that’s whatn it was! 🙂

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:01 pm

      hahahahaaa what are rhey? hypocrite in there?

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 1:04 pm

        YaY! another good one! TY! I read back through yesterday for stuff AL was having trouble with…

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:05 pm

      expert, abuse, respect, yes, no, jealousy, stalker, liar, continuim, framework, career-killer,psychopath, etc…………………

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 1:10 pm

        Good! Good! TY! …can’t believe I didn’t have Jealousy on there!

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/10/2013 at 1:13 pm

      Unbiased.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 1:14 pm

        Good – I’ll add that right under Bias… We might as well let her know that there is a difference…

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 1:21 pm

      Stalking…..

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 1:24 pm

        number one on the list – right above skank! lol..

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:14 pm

      Naive, duped, snookered, screwed…

  98. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Sounds like counsel is in chambers! Darn, just when the Worm was getting settled into
    his recliner for the morning!!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:03 pm

      oh lawd was going to ask! seal… and thought it was ‘supposed’ to have started. sheesh what now anyone know? ok probably need to read above not had a chance!

  99. CC ...
    04/10/2013 at 1:02 pm

    Marilyn N :
    Robert – THe Worm needs to take speed talking classes, that is for sure. Can you imagine watching him repeat everything JM is saying? It would take 2 weeks of Worm to equal one day of JM…..😀

    I think that is his style. I also think he is draaaagggginnng everything out because he gets paid by the hour … by the good taxpayers of AZ.

    It’s frustrating to watch them (by de$$$ign as well as incompetence, IMO). I get that the judge is trying to avoid appellate issues but she really should not allow them to, in effect, do a direct examination again and again after Juan is done with their witness but at some point she could hurry things along and say “Ms Willnot, we covered this already, let’s move it along.”

    A girl can dream, no?

    • Tami Marie Bancroft
      04/10/2013 at 1:17 pm

      I am happy that NH does not have wobos case. We do not need wobo here. LOL

  100. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 1:04 pm

    giggle, snort:

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Wild has been requested to speak in 3rd person like Jimmy from Seinfeld. Wild will accept this request.

  101. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Expectations on use by LaVio: in next session::

    context,17;..global, 6.big picture, 5;…thousands of pages,.3;..44 hours, 1;..Mr Martinez,.16;
    Its not a yes or no answer 12

  102. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 1:06 pm

    JA appears to have her nurse/school teacher look today…

    • kristin
      04/10/2013 at 2:46 pm

      She wishes she looked that noble! I cannot stand how cheap looking her clothes are. Also why does the defense allow her to wear colors of power(red, etc)? She is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I say let her dress how ever she wants. I bet she couldn’t help herself but to dress sexy, bleach her hair and wear make up even tho her life is on the line.

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:22 pm

      I wonder if she ever used that exact look in her bag of seductive tricks when she was still free to prey on unsuspecting victims. It’s amazing what a little makeup can do! Like they say…you can put a ring on a pigs nose, but it’s still a pig.

  103. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:06 pm

    josemcyntire ‏@josemcyntire

    The last journal #jodiarias submitted into evidence is FAKE! JA wrote it in weeks leading to arrest based on dates! pic.twitter.com/bteU7ZteUM

  104. 04/10/2013 at 1:07 pm

    I still can’t get over her cutting her hand on an apple for Alice… I think Alice started off with an apology then launched into Snow White. It is why wobo went with the apple story! wow just wow! You read about this, you don’t expect to see if played out in front of you.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 1:09 pm

      ohhh LOVe that she grabbed the apple from Disney in making her story; she does it that way all the time.

  105. 04/10/2013 at 1:07 pm

    Bring your glasses, wench!!!!!!!!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 1:08 pm

      great minds think alike?

  106. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 1:07 pm

    …walking up there without your glasses…..AGAIN!

  107. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:08 pm

    LaLa left her bag in the courtroom; wait; she’ll need her effin glasses and waddle over

    • NapaNonnie
      04/10/2013 at 1:16 pm

      My exact thought. . . How many times does she have to fall down the same hole before she walks around it . . .

  108. 04/10/2013 at 1:08 pm

    ooooooooooo

  109. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:09 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Alyce takes the stand,, she is wearing a gorgeous black shirt with a bird pattern on it

    That’s cause she’s a loon – no offense to the bird 😉

  110. 04/10/2013 at 1:09 pm

    JM is starting out no nonsense with ther he’s had it

  111. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 1:10 pm

    Okay, this one’s from my husband and son: “Number Juan seed – even better than Louisville.” They’re on the sports theme all the time. But at least I’ve got them thinking…hehehe…..they mentioned watching some documentary on Bo Jackson and were working with that….I came up with, If Bo Knows, Bo Knows Juan is On!

    But their best Juan was this: Juanderman!! 🙂 Now we’re back in my arena!

  112. 04/10/2013 at 1:10 pm

    dead…… slit throat, no indication of ear?

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:11 pm

      fear**

  113. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:11 pm

    Well he’s dead now, isn’t he ALV? no evidence my hineybutt!

  114. 04/10/2013 at 1:11 pm

    he want to say it…

  115. JesusFreak
    04/10/2013 at 1:11 pm

    pls, pls, judge, this ? has got to be a doozie!

  116. 04/10/2013 at 1:12 pm

    Oh man the jury can’t see him dead????

  117. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:12 pm

    Oh great. There was “laughing” on the text message when Travis says he is afraid.
    Juan: laughter on the message?
    Lots of Ha Ha
    But not at that momemt
    No
    OMG anorher case of legal CYA on other people’s money!!!

  118. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:13 pm

    All I can picture is Wumi naked!!!! Yuck

    And when ya come back up bring your damn glasses!!!!!

  119. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:13 pm

    somehow LaLa is getting a few moinutes to prep for what is coming. Juan keeps asking the Judge :can I ask her the question?” I mean c’mon guys!

  120. 04/10/2013 at 1:13 pm

    3 mins…….. why so the can pre-warn lala??? ok IM brain dead should shut up!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 1:14 pm

      gmta

  121. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 1:14 pm

    What in the world is happening?

  122. 04/10/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Has the trial begun today?

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:17 pm

      yep!!! kinda but yes

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:17 pm

      starting off with sidebars as usual

  123. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:15 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Wild has taken squats out of his weight lifting routine since he does about 10 sets of 30 reps at court any how

  124. 04/10/2013 at 1:16 pm

    why can they do that???????

  125. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:17 pm

    Oh lookie – she brought her glasses!!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:17 pm

      slap those pics down Juan baby!!!

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 1:18 pm

      she’s catching on!!

  126. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:18 pm

    the BFFs in white cuddled each other

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:21 pm

      🙂

  127. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:19 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Willmott is back, Alyce takes the stand. Counsel is at sizzlebar. Valerie goes to get the jury again. Squat number 5 coming up.

  128. 04/10/2013 at 1:19 pm

    oh now he’s afraid suddenly? before he was alughing about it b4 the break?

  129. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:19 pm

    OMG she answered a question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:20 pm

      only after the 3 min break!

  130. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:19 pm

    in light colors;

    “he was afraid of her cbecause of her stalking behavior” She say YES
    She says he mischaracterizes her….”continuum”

  131. 04/10/2013 at 1:20 pm

    defintion JIM!!!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 1:26 pm

      i’m on it! lol!

  132. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Mornin’ all a tad groggy too – btw I don’t see ALV’s glasses with her…guess we’re gonna see the “Olde Fashioned Alyce Glass Walk”

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:21 pm

      Hello Chrissie!!!! 😀

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 1:32 pm

        Hi Sweetpea, I am humbled, she has her glasses today – dammit! lol

  133. JesusFreak
    04/10/2013 at 1:20 pm

    come on, judge!!!

  134. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:20 pm

    ok Mr Martinez 4 not a yes or no 3 and 2 close together!

  135. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:21 pm

    Oh I should have listed “continuum”

  136. LindaLou
    04/10/2013 at 1:21 pm

    Well you should not use the word stalking!

  137. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 1:21 pm

    Every time the camera shows JA – I have an extremely strong urge to doodle an unhappy

    • truejustice
      04/10/2013 at 1:24 pm

      … face over hers

  138. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Chrissie please post your bs twitter pic 🙂

  139. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:23 pm

    She’s on a roll with the “Mr. Martinez” stuff and he’s getting pissed!!! Good for him!

  140. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 1:23 pm

    The Judge simply MUST take control of this witness and the courtroom. This is an absolute travesty.

  141. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:23 pm

    well we’re hearingthe word STALK a lot

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:26 pm

      gonna stick celery stalks in my ears soon!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 1:28 pm

        they’ll help hold up the tin foil hat!

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:28 pm

        LOL!!! and feed the rabbits!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 2:31 pm

      It’s on there! 🙂

  142. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 1:23 pm

    I ran around like a chicken with his head off all morning, getting all of my babies with hooves and paws taken care so I could focus on the trial, and now…. MORE DELAYS! Argh!

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:26 pm

      darlin’ you should know better by know 😉

      • Family of Law
        04/10/2013 at 1:35 pm

        Apparently, I have a BIG learning curve- I think I’m losing IQ points watching this! (Alas, I’m further and further from Einstein and JA!)

  143. 04/10/2013 at 1:23 pm

    do you see this chair yes or no? omfg she is worse than EVER!

    terrorist!!!!!!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 1:29 pm

      TY! now on list…

  144. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:24 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Alyce has raised her voice a few times as Juan compares the two still. She is not a happy camper so far.

    Good!!!!!!!!!!

  145. 04/10/2013 at 1:24 pm

    she is terrorising him under your own continuum WOMAN!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:28 pm

      Oh man I know that feeling!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 1:28 pm

      LOL! THAT continuum wasn’t hers; that was drawn by someone else!

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:29 pm

        copied dear copied!

  146. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 1:25 pm

    Why could they be in chambers, could Juan be getting the best of Alice?

  147. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:27 pm

    She is really beyond foolish. I mean she could answer lots of things with yes or no. She is still the passive aggressive smartass.Well, it may take a few more Juansessions, but we’re gonna see you not so passive-aggressive, but resigned to the FATE of the moment.

  148. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 1:27 pm

    I wonder if mom is enjoying sitting next to Jodi’s new jail friends!!

  149. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 1:28 pm

    We all need to educate Alice on how to be respectful. Ya think?

  150. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 1:29 pm

    So stalking isn’t abusive if you dont report it .. but most people don’t report abuse… hmmmmmmmm

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:32 pm

      but they did report it but insufficient evidene re tyre slashing

      • truejustice
        04/10/2013 at 1:34 pm

        Thanks, I didn’t know that .

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:36 pm

        hisn friends did as far as I know.. it’s part of the tragedy of the case. The cops could do nothing.

  151. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:30 pm

    big picture–twice

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 1:32 pm

      Word of the day/week (2 weeks)……

  152. 04/10/2013 at 1:31 pm

    I think he had very good reason to be…. look! *slaps autopsy photos in front of La La Irefusetoansweranything*

  153. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:31 pm

    juror questions in the bin already

  154. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 1:32 pm

    The BFF’s are dressed in the Easter best!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:33 pm

      baby pink and baby blue omg on BFFs

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:31 pm

      Noticed that right off and since her clothing is brought to her is willy the one who dresses her???

  155. SCK
    04/10/2013 at 1:33 pm

    This woman has sunk lower than Dr. Dodgy!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:34 pm

      I agree.

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:26 pm

      Now THAT is an accomplishment!

  156. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:34 pm

    oh good Feb 2007 to June or Jull in 07. THIS is the amount of time the “official” relationship of these 2 people. Imagine. 5 months and there is no co habitation and “domestic” abuse.

    • kristin
      04/10/2013 at 2:51 pm

      JA had to have been full blown crazy before she met Travis. Its insane how short of a period of time their “relationship” was!

  157. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 1:35 pm

    He forced her to move!! (the fragile little girl she was)

  158. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 1:35 pm

    I love how animated JM is – think you could put together snippets from you tube and market it as a low impact morning work out…..

  159. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:35 pm

    not a yes or no twice

  160. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:37 pm

    SHUT HER UP

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:34 pm

      Thank you Robert!!!!!!!

  161. 04/10/2013 at 1:37 pm

    perky’s eyes are darting like glow flies today

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 1:41 pm

      Are glow flies what we Yanks call “Fireflies”?

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:42 pm

        yeah LOL 😀

  162. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 1:37 pm

    Jaaaaysus! Just answer YES or NO! Enough with the dodging!!!

  163. LindaLou
    04/10/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Anyone know who’s sitting with the MS?

  164. Jane
    04/10/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Gawwwd! Jodi is still drawing, erasing, drawing…Jenny is telling her to put devil horns on Juan’s caricature. Finally Judge Stevens tells LV to answer the questions.

  165. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:39 pm

    Hey who is the BFF with the def mediator with the boobs?

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:41 pm

      probably another MS cause she’s gonna need it. I think I read somewhere that there should be 2 on each case?!?!?

      • 04/10/2013 at 2:23 pm

        Only one is required-ms

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:41 pm

      yeah they are multiplying!

  166. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:40 pm

    riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight love it, he’s so making his point!

  167. 04/10/2013 at 1:40 pm

    wow.. amazing how much alice is able to disregard in her assessment. It shows total tunnel vision. Whether the jury sees it clearly or not who knows but it’s terrible in the terms of integrity or veracity

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 1:42 pm

      tunnel vision added…

      • 04/10/2013 at 1:43 pm

        lol!

  168. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:41 pm

    OMG what a battleaxe this one is, She probably has no feel for the responses of her seminars when she breaks out in a keynote.

  169. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 1:43 pm
    • 04/10/2013 at 2:38 pm

      Between socks and tie I am dizzy and sick to stomach. He is a mess!!!!!!

  170. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:45 pm

    I would rather look over here ——————–BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  171. 04/10/2013 at 1:45 pm

    Jim might as well throw in those last two too.

    omg can’t talk to other women cos wobo won’t leave him alone? wow

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 1:46 pm

      done!

  172. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:45 pm

    he got her admit that standing outside the house was stalking;
    he asked her if the journals were ever not true; she doesn’t say she stalked;
    therefore the journals aren;t true?
    Ummm the contaxt beacuse he was with one woman didnt mean he didnt have other women!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:46 pm

      ronert.. stop making me want to go down the rabbit hole again!

  173. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 1:46 pm

    BUSTED bunny rabbit!!! STOP LOOKING TO Perky for HELP!

  174. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:46 pm

    Travis is bad guy because he talks to other women!!!!!
    Hey Juan you got it, Man hater on the loose

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:47 pm

      boy is she ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  175. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:46 pm

    I wish someone would send ALV a copy of this ALV

  176. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 1:46 pm

    I hope the jury is watching JA smirk during all this. Boy she is confident.

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:48 pm

      she is sickening! all she sees is alice standing up to Martinez she can’t comprehend the ‘big picture’ stupid bimbo!

      • katz63md
        04/10/2013 at 2:13 pm

        Completely agree

  177. 04/10/2013 at 1:47 pm

    this is RIDICULARIOUS!!!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:29 pm

      Jim needs to add that word to his list!

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:33 pm

        LOL! he mayn not find it! 😛

  178. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 1:48 pm

    I’m beginning to think lv is a women scorned. She is very negative about TA talking to multiple women, flirting, etc.

  179. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Oh she has been through the 60s! and the 70s! Hey Toldya she was qualified!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:49 pm

      LOL!!!!

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 1:54 pm

      I think she is HIGH right now:)

  180. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Oh Boy! CiCi’s group is gonna have a field day with that one!

  181. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 1:49 pm

    If the jurors have to sit through all this bullshit [by that, I mean the entire trial, I am not referring just to the antics of ALV] with nothing to distract or amuse them, WOBO should have to sit at the defense table and pay attention, and not sit over there and color. She is in court because she has the right to participate and assist in her defense. She is NOT there so she gets some “get out of her jail cell free time.” She is NOT there in order to amuse herself, to come up with a way to raise money, to intimidate Travis’s family, the prosecutor, Detective Flores, jurors, dismissed jurors, and witnesses by sketching them. She is NOT there to giggle and visit with her BFF, the MS, and her supporters. She is NOT there to write in her diary. She is NOT there to rule on objections.

    Can you imagine if a JUROR sat over there and doodled, then went home at night and put their doodles up for sale in an online forum? If they sat there and daydreamed the way she does, or imitated a single one of her rude behaviors, they would be dismissed immediately.

    Her behavior is so far beyond disrespectful I cannot even find the words. They should put her in hand restraints (I looked and they are available).

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:51 pm

      hallelujah!! said that weeks ago.. cos of the sketches and note passing etc! Handcuff the wench!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 1:55 pm

      Truer words were never spoken! The judge has the final say on restraints for security purposes – cuffs and leg shackles are regarded as prejudicial – the jury is not aware JA is wearing an ERD, and the court has taken steps to keep them from seeing it…

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:44 pm

      Well said Schaeffer. Now if someone in court would read this to her!!!!!!!!!

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 3:30 pm

      I think it should become a new law that hodi type people can’t color in court! And there is a law about not benefiting financially from crap while in jail, isn’t there? Frankly my bad side says hook ‘er up like Clockwork Orange so she gets a really good view. I really am scared that I have these thoughts….but good gosh almighty….please. make. her. stop. {vomit}

  182. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 1:49 pm

    Speaking of “Shades of Grey”… You’re face, Mz. LaToilette, is looking a tad sallow!

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:50 pm

      LOL!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 1:52 pm

      I’d post thison billboards if I could

  183. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:49 pm

    now Aunt Bea on the stand: I know he called Suzie and he flirted with Joannie. I dont know but I know she was involved with someone on a couch. And he was being sexual.
    Hes a single guy. canb’t he do what he wants?
    Thas not a yes or no

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 1:51 pm

      I take offense of your use of Suzie! That’s my actual name! Lol!

  184. 04/10/2013 at 1:50 pm

    She has taken this to a new level. She talks in circles and does not listen to anything anyone else says. No wonder she took JA at face value. One of those people that ALWAYS has an excuses or reason. Gag a maggot, again!!!!!!! She will try Juan til he wants to run to MMD for respite.

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:51 pm

      🙂

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:52 pm

      she knows what she is doing.. ie lying about her conclusions and testimony… she is too egocentric to back down. This shows her true nature and it ain’t pretty at all.

    • kristin
      04/10/2013 at 2:56 pm

      I do not understand why alv will not just concede her point and say that this is her opinion based on JAs provided information. She could fall back on that every time! It would at least save her credibility.

  185. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 1:50 pm

    ildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Alyce sees the world in lots of shades of gray she says. Wild wants to know if it’s limited to just 50 shades?

    • 04/10/2013 at 1:53 pm

      Two… things that support Travis.. things that support wobo

  186. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:53 pm

    i didnt talk to this woman Lisa
    I read pages, about 3, about her
    but you didnt interview her?
    no.
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH an anbswer

  187. 04/10/2013 at 1:55 pm

    How come she only wore those green glasses only once? what a waste of money those were! She didn’t like those she took em off real quick and has never worn em again

  188. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Can you imagien? A woman calls police. Says shes being abused. Police tell her to call LaLaToilette and get help. She tells LaLa that she sees him standing outside he BRr window, with another guy, and after they broke up. LaLa says its not stalking.Police dont pay attention. She is killed 2 weeks later,

  189. 04/10/2013 at 1:56 pm

    YES!!!!

  190. 04/10/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Bubble here, wow! She just ain’t gonna budge an inch. Why am I thinking about shredded cheeze? Watching Juan in action is like good cocaine, or so I’ve heard, you feel like your eyes are bugging and you might have a heart attack, but you want more…This is truly cringe TV.

  191. 04/10/2013 at 1:57 pm

    any man in her group would call verbally abusive??? whaaat!

  192. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 1:57 pm

    The men in her group who she puts in time out – haha!

  193. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:57 pm

    Hey ANY guy in a group with her is so LOST it dont matter

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 1:59 pm

      priceless!!!!!!!!!!

  194. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 1:58 pm

    What is this “group” she keeps referring to? Is she the leader of said group? God forbid!

    • Marilyn N
      04/10/2013 at 1:59 pm

      Abusive men who come to her “group” to get better.

    • NancyB
      04/10/2013 at 2:00 pm

      All the perps! She has never “treated” any women as perps. ONLY men!

    • Crystal Harris
      04/10/2013 at 3:06 pm

      They are these court-ordered DV Anger Management groups. They are the same ones my xhusband attended (we live in SoCal), and the same ones I’ve been railing against as completely counter-productive. They are akin to traffic school for men convicted of DV.

  195. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 1:58 pm

    When wobo smirks I can imagine punching her in the nose. Then tell Alice she must be seeing things.

  196. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Hey she knows! Shes the human lie detector She KNOWS what HER goup men would say about someone they dont know. Mind swings.

  197. 04/10/2013 at 1:59 pm

    wobo is particularly ANNOYING today wth is with her smarmy arrogant smiling attitude.. she truly has no clie she has EQ of ….. well doesn’t register!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 2:04 pm

      is exposing an untrue lie a stalking behavior?

      • 04/10/2013 at 2:07 pm

        untrue lie? did she say that????

    • kristin
      04/10/2013 at 2:58 pm

      I wonder if she will still have that smirk when they read a guilty verdict? Or will she release a tsunami of self pity?

      • 04/10/2013 at 3:02 pm

        coild go either way.. Im leaning towards the smirk.. and then demolishing her cell later… (if that verdict comes in)

        will she still be thinking “still beat ya” trying to convince herself of it yes.

  198. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Mr Martinez-check
    She thinks she being clever but she just sounds stupid

  199. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Men probably do not like her. Ya think?

  200. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:00 pm

    what some guy in Long Beach Californiua thinks! Hahahaha

  201. 04/10/2013 at 2:00 pm

    I doubt it.. I think by those video the parents would have agreed and understood with what Travis was saying.

  202. 04/10/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Ok Wormi has another pair of ugly socks on. Think it has become a game with him. Black & white diagonal.

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 2:04 pm

      I thought they were polk a dots LOL

      • 04/10/2013 at 2:50 pm

        You are right he had then scrunched when I looked.

  203. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Ok lets IMAGINE even IF any man even has a partner if he goes to see her in group

  204. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 2:01 pm

    you can tell she is proud she remembered those dates without having to see her notes…..

  205. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 2:02 pm

    She is sooooo embarrassing to watch! I truly have never seen an “expert” witness this combative and arrogant. She actually smirked today like Jody. She is an amateur clown!

  206. 04/10/2013 at 2:02 pm

    welcome back to HLN we’re gonna hit the play button and get you right back into the courtroom, you haven’t missed a thing…”And ma’am, insn’t it true that you” Okay, we’re gonna hit the pause button for a quick break, you won’t miss a thing…

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 2:09 pm

      ROFLO

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 3:18 pm

      LOL!

  207. 04/10/2013 at 2:02 pm

    aarghhh ok Jim… about tom start glugging!! cant take it!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 2:08 pm

      I might as well join you – AL’s performance is just beyond the pale! She has a reasonable chance of being the primary contributing factor to JA’s conviction! Wonder if there’s a Hallmark card for that, that we can send her?

      • 04/10/2013 at 2:11 pm

        LOL give me enough drinks and I’ll create one! 😛

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 2:15 pm

      Can’t be you, Dear – you use BIG words she doesn’t know the meaning of! 🙂 You know – the ones with more than two syllables….

      • 04/10/2013 at 2:16 pm

        lol! I can dumb it down!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 2:21 pm

        There’s not enough booze in the whole of OZ that would get you low enough, my friend……

  208. PK
    04/10/2013 at 2:03 pm

    If I were any man in any one of LaViolette’s groups, I would agree with her 100% and respond to her as I think she would want me to no matter how absurd it may be just to get as far away from her as soon as possible and never return for any reason.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 2:10 pm

      LOL!

  209. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 2:03 pm

    What’s that thingy wormi was just touching on the table.

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 2:05 pm

      microphone

  210. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 2:04 pm

    JA is just aghast!!!

  211. 04/10/2013 at 2:04 pm

    My blood pressure drops considerably when I hit mute on the live stream!

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 2:06 pm

      I betcha!

  212. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Hey she read a guy say he believed he was being stalked and he gets killed but so what?

  213. 04/10/2013 at 2:06 pm

    stalking and terrorising in this way makes you crazy. You feel trapped, angry, helpless and you try to think through that and find a solutiin, but the stalker is irrational to there is no rational solution. The very nature of that cycle is terrorising in itself. It’s psychological abuse in the extreme.

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:10 pm

      I know exactly why Travis sent her to Mesa. I know why he was relieved when she acually left. I also know what he felt when she moved back after the break up. He immediately felt trapped and terrorised again.

      • Family of Law
        04/10/2013 at 2:13 pm

        Is there any actual proof that Travis helped pay for her move back to Mesa?

      • 04/10/2013 at 2:14 pm

        Surely he wouldn’t have? Unless she disguised it as something else and used the money for the move?

  214. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 2:06 pm

    ALV would be unable to see a pattern on a chess board!

  215. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Gawd! She’s gotta PEE AGAIN!

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 2:11 pm

      Alyce Break!! OMG this is insane! Maybe she needs to grab some more valium!

      • Family of Law
        04/10/2013 at 2:43 pm

        Or take a hit off of her bong:)

  216. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Can you imagine if anyone sneaked outside LaLa’s BR window? Ok, forget how side the urge, but the cops, the US Reserves, tv cameras would all be there and she’ hired Gloria Alred as her lawyer!

  217. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 2:07 pm

    lv .. needs to pee again… OR get some help from the defense. my guess is the latter

  218. Mckealty
    04/10/2013 at 2:09 pm

    My elderly relatives are quickly running out of window drapery given the raw yardage of ALV’s wardrobe.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 2:11 pm

      LOL

    • Crystal Harris
      04/10/2013 at 3:11 pm

      And did you see in her 2010 YouTube presentation on Snow White that she was wearing the same fugly jacket-thing that she wore on the stand last Thurs? She must put it on, look in the mirror, and think “I Look really good.” That alone proves her bad judgment.

  219. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Im no a body language expert, but I am a Mom, WOBO’s body language watching the jury exit showed me that she’s WORRIED that the jury DOES NOT even glance in her direction – I think her “feelings” are hurt:( Poor thing! Lol!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:13 pm

      exactly se want to be the centre of attention. If They give her no attention, she’d hate em. How dare they not think she is the centre of the universe?

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:08 pm

      Tongue and lip smacking this morning as well. Doesn’t like to be thought of as a stalker which I know is obvious but it seems to really push her buttons.

  220. Jane
    04/10/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Judge, may I go to the bathroom, Mr.Martinez is upsetting my normal flora and my irritable bowels are afire.

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:16 pm

      Just catch in’ up on the trial by reading everyone’s astute comments!

      Sounds like LaViathon needs to invest in some Depends, because Juanderful is squeezing her hard! Poor thing.

  221. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 2:12 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    The bailiff rolls out the slide and swingset for the 10 minute recess. This is a really nice touch that Judge Stephens provides

  222. SCK
    04/10/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Can’t get caught blogging so not sure if this has been mentioned…..can the she/man girlfriend wear something brighter to court? Can’t pick her out in the crowd in her screaming lime green shirt!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:19 pm

      You mean Madonnaman? Talk about gender neutral. Icky.

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:20 pm

      It’s called SLIME green.

  223. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:13 pm

    well look at it this way; LaToilette is kaput as a expert, but there is always the chance to audition for a Depends commercial! They go for that toothy grin sometimes right adfter they say that one should consult a doctorif they behave funny in court.

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 2:15 pm

      ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:19 pm

      LOL! behave funny? that’s putting a very kind spin on it.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 2:21 pm

        Ok! Now every time I see her with that Bugs grin, I’ll know she’s releasingher bladder. Makes it easier somehow to watch it..

      • 04/10/2013 at 2:25 pm

        LMAO!!! niiiice

  224. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Jodi Arias’ Anus ‏@theanusofjodi 1m
    1 hour of #jodiarias court and 21 objections thus far. 2 have been sustained. You do the math.

    This is an actual twitter acct. It shows way too much on its avatar!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:20 pm

      probably copied Alyce’s glasses which I thought was hilarious!

  225. 04/10/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Damnit! They keep showing snippets of a trial on my HLN commercial channel!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 2:24 pm

      Oh lawd! LOL …need more paper towels handy here…coffee everywhere!

  226. 04/10/2013 at 2:23 pm

    It just goes to show all these years she’s been hiding the inner Alyce. No way can you suddenly get like this, no way.

  227. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Sometimes after a session here I feel like I do after seeing a show at the Laugh Factory in Hollywood; muscles moved I didnt know I had.

  228. 04/10/2013 at 2:24 pm

    he didnt take reactive action.. but when Jodi doesn’t it’s normal behaviour. *glug* *glug* *glug*

  229. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:26 pm

    Not Jan 21 the same night; it MIGHT have been at 12.)2 the next day but DONT ask me that

  230. 04/10/2013 at 2:26 pm

    she movede back to Mesa… SHE pursued him.. he didnt move to freakin’ Yreka.

  231. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Did Wurmi slide down in his seat to make it seemlikes hes small so SHE must be small?

  232. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 2:27 pm

    I only wish we could read lips, cuz I am wondering what miss Dingle berry is whispering to perky.

  233. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 2:28 pm

    high 5 Juan !!

  234. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:28 pm

    Hey WOBE get those glasses back on!

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:29 pm

      WOBE ? Whore of Babble Endlessly?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 2:42 pm

        evermore

  235. 04/10/2013 at 2:28 pm

    what evidence lalala Vomit (soz… vodka talking) 😀

  236. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Here the continuum again..words Stalking and aggression

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 2:32 pm

      On direct, the “continuum” was her magnus opus. Her much copied analysis and chart of domestice violence.
      On cross, its by someone else; words dont mean THAT Mr Martinez; family of origin not important;

  237. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Question…when did Travis allegedly stalk JA? Half listening today and I thought ALV or JM is saying something about Travis stalking JA. Must be missing something again. 😦

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 2:38 pm

      JM is talking about Jodi stalking Travis.

      • katz63md
        04/10/2013 at 6:11 pm

        Thanks Lisa. Got a little confused there.

  238. 04/10/2013 at 2:30 pm

    omg samantha is sobbing!!!!!

    • SCK
      04/10/2013 at 2:40 pm

      This has to be overwhelming for the family….just want to give Samantha a big hug.

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:22 pm

      How can LaViolette continue on with her testimony seeing that? Disgusting.

    • Anonymous
      04/10/2013 at 3:49 pm

      I keep thinking ALV will realize the error of her ways and turn the ship around but she just keeps going full steam ahead with this crap!! I feel sorta bad for her, she is so so sooo screwed when this trial is over!!

  239. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 2:31 pm

    Double standard BIAS — didn’t ALV fervently say on direct that someone who is abused may stay in the relationship even after they have subjected to blatant abuse? She spent DAYS telling this jury that women who are badly abused–keep spending time with-having sex with-texting with- their ABUSERS!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 2:43 pm

      Double Standard added….

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 3:03 pm

      Exactly! Has Juan brought that to her attention? Like the defense attorney on HLN just said a little while ago, there are cycles. Why isn’t Juan mentioning that? Or did he and I missed it? He should ask her if she has ever treated men who are abused by women? Think I felt already know the answer to that one but he could show bias and a lack of experience in that area.

  240. 04/10/2013 at 2:32 pm

    ok time to seriously assess this crap. After seeing Samantha I’m fuming!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 3:01 pm

      Me too, and JA sits there like a kid with a coloring book…

  241. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:35 pm

    Hey she made an assumption Mr Martinez; she misspoke then; Im not a computer person youknow. I made an assumption, I cleared that up by askingher what I should say!

  242. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:37 pm

    I swear WOBE just told perky to object!

  243. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 2:38 pm

    Yesterday my husband asked me to stop by the store on my way home… I had had a long day
    me : I’m not sure what your asking me .
    … crickets chirped
    him: if you don’t wan’t to that’s ok .
    me: your not looking at the context here.
    him: never mind I’ll go myself.

    note: I actually did go.. but I’m not sure he thought it was as funny as I did.

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 2:40 pm

      🙂

  244. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 2:39 pm

    hey there were pictures! Either on the bed or on the computer whatever! What matters is that there were pictures! Nobody was ablke to sneak a magazine out to me in code telling me I screwed up

  245. 04/10/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Bottom line is. This woman has apparently devoted her life to battered women. For $ she has completely disregarded obvious facts to side with a terrorising abuser.

    Why?

    Possible Answers.

    1. Money
    2. Hates men so vehemently she cannot see the truth
    3. Knows she made a mistake but is too egocentric to back down from er horrendously misleading and incompetent testimony.

    She has become the abuser. She is psychologically and emotionally abusing the family of a slaughtered, innocent man to fulfill her agenda.

    If this is justice, then I need the websters definition of justice slapped in front of me because I’m erroneous in my assumption of it’s meaning.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 2:43 pm

      I think its all 3

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 2:44 pm

      All of the above and it’s a disgrace!!!!!

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 2:48 pm

      Well said! And as for #3- I really think she knows she’s been caught in WOBO’s “snatch all”, but is indeed, TOO arrogant to admit it, and do the right thing.

    • SCK
      04/10/2013 at 2:53 pm

      On the nosey….

  246. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 2:44 pm

    elizabetherwin Alexander’s sister is having a hard time staying composed today. #JodiArias

    My heart just aches for them. I can’t imagine having to hear this stuff .

  247. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 2:44 pm

    porking a little girl – riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight – no bias with her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  248. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 2:45 pm

    guess she missed Charlie’s Angels – probably the only one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 2:51 pm

      You’d think with her vast movie repertoire – she would have seen a “girl power” movie!

  249. 04/10/2013 at 2:46 pm

    time to whip out the pic of him as a kid on the bed.. doesn’t Juan have it?

  250. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 2:46 pm

    wow did you see the worm get a chuckle on that one!

  251. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Did TA actually say something about spidy underware ?

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:53 pm

      NO – he NEVER said anything about siderman underware. She made it all up ! There are no pictures, no journal entries, NOTHING !!!!!

  252. 04/10/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Feijoa vodka is awesome! FYI

  253. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 2:47 pm

    WHY can’t Juan show his cross of Lisa to ALV??? She made it crystal clear about what a respectful boyfriend Travis was and about the serious concerns both shared about JA’s stalking.

  254. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 2:48 pm

    test

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 2:53 pm

      You’re back in fine form! Yahoo!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 2:54 pm

      no more Doritos!

  255. truejustice
    • truejustice
      04/10/2013 at 2:50 pm

      94,486 views … so they all pedi’s too ???

      • PK
        04/10/2013 at 2:54 pm

        make that 94,487 now. Not impressed.

      • truejustice
        04/10/2013 at 3:01 pm

        PK … I didn’t look at the whole page … is that a bad link ?

      • 04/10/2013 at 3:15 pm

        Views of what? Sorry don’t understand.

    • truejustice
      04/10/2013 at 3:19 pm

      Donchais: Can you please remove #633 link …. OMG ……. posted link to cameron diaz via google search…. looks like its an adult naughty site. I APOLOGIZE to all — should have looked at the page first darn google pic view option. sorry sorry sorry !!!

      • truejustice
        04/10/2013 at 3:21 pm

        ok .. I think the post number changed.. the link above

  256. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 2:49 pm

    ALV and her ilk remind me of the travesty that became the McMartin Preschool debacle. She is a disgrace.

  257. 04/10/2013 at 2:50 pm

    k got that out… phew good to have a release every now and again!

  258. kellymarwillrn@gmail.com
    04/10/2013 at 2:51 pm

    So in the history of a woman stalking a man- ALV would have us to believe true stalking has to include complete fear in the man. Well if ALV likes to quote movies- why don’t you watch one called Fatal Attraction… Men would definately tend to handle their own ex girlfriend over asking the police to protect them. So sad he didn’t know how brutal she could be- a terrorists on the continuum, just in case ALV wants to follow this…

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 3:54 pm

      Absolutely, Wish Juan would ask her about her vast repertoire of “collateral” information”. Your response reminded me of how good and effective Glenn Close’s performance was in that film.(Cher won the Osca that year for “Moonstruck”- which performance holds up better? Anyhow, Close was nominated)Perfect and powerfull and prescient performance of 25 years ago! It was generally said – and I can confirm from my experience – that if one stood outside a theater after the showing, the men all came out with slightly anxious and fearfull looks on their faces; while the women all seemed t perky and “up” had a very, very small smile on their faces.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 3:57 pm

        btw: same year was Michael Douglass for Wall Street. Known for GREED (with money specifically) as was Fatal Attraction,known for JEALOUSY( and the woman scorned, specifically)

  259. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 2:52 pm

    This is a Great Recipe for Feijoa Vodka that I can personally vouch for!!!

    “My three and a half year-old tells me that all good stories start with “once upon a time…” – so here we go…

    Once upon a time, there were two women who worked together and got to know each other well as they were both pregnant with their first children together. One excelled in the domestic arts, and cocoons her child in fantastic creative things – and that is not me! [editor’s note: ahem, hardly!]

    Me, I like food. And drink – although not much drink now that I have kids. Hangovers and kids – I’m so not going there. 6.30am is bad enough without extra punishment.

    Catherine inspired me with damson gin, and I have learnt how to make that. And now, I do other infusions too… including with the prince of fruit, the feijoa. Catherine has graciously offered me the opportunity to do my first-ever blog post on how wonderful home-made feijoa vodka is.

    Home-made feijoa vodka is lightyears more amazing than the commercial stuff. Much as I admire the 42Below people, I don’t like their feijoa vodka – smells chemically to me and not in a nice way. Theirs does look better than mine… mine is yellow-green coloured, a bit like swamp juice.

    But! The smell, the taste! Very special.

    So, what you do to have your own homemade feijoa vodka is: get a big kilner jar. I get mine from Moore-Wilsons.

    Peel a heap of feijoas and slice them into five mm-thick rings.

    Fill the jar with the feijoas till about two-thirds full. Then pour in vodka (or brandy if you like that) to cover. I use cheap vodka, any brand does – whatever’s on special.

    Add about a cup of sugar. I don’t like mine very sweet so I use a little bit less.

    Seal the jar and give it a good shake. Keep the jar in the light, and shake it each day till the sugar dissolves. Timing on that depends on how much sugar you used, but about a week.

    You’ll see from the final picture that the jars are different ages – green when freshly done, orangey the older it gets. Just seems to be the way they go – it’s not gone bad.

    When the sugar is dissolved, put the jar away in a cupboard and leave for at least 3 months. I try to do longer. Then, when you reckon it’s ready, drain the vodka, keeping the fruit to one side. The fruit is now good for ice cream or added to crumbles or a fabulous feijoa loaf recipe I have. You can freeze it to use at a later date.

    The best bit is the drinking. I like it with Appletise. Apple juice is good too. It’s extremely calming once the kids have finally gone to sleep…

    It’s good to give away in little bottles you can get from Arthur Holmes. Make some and swap it with Catherine for her awesome, award-winning damson jam.

    Next on my list to try is limoncello. A member of the Board I work for got an awesome recipe while on a Maori Battalion trip to Italy. That’s got to be good, I reckon!

    [Thanks heaps Cathie for this brilliant post, and to Ant for those amazing photos! I can vouch for the amazing flavour of Cathie’s infused vodka. Makes 42 Below’s taste completely bland and fake in comparison.]”

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:04 pm

      NancyB.. copied and saved. 😀

  260. JesusFreak
    04/10/2013 at 2:55 pm

    i played golf in a group years ago with a woman that had been career sargeant in the military. She was like ALV, didn’t want anyone to have their own opinion about golf or anything else. She was always right and stood for nothing less. I told her one day my husband did not hit woods only irons. She said “I don’t LET my husband hit woods either.”

    • 04/10/2013 at 2:57 pm

      ooooo what a statement!!

      hello JF btw 😀

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:03 pm

      well her husband is the sort of guy that would be in her group in Ling Beach, California. Among all the kooks who were told to get anger management, and the losers who no one will go near, and the twice-scorned who are on the verge of murder or suicide (most of them,I bet, are arrested for trying to kill her.).

  261. 04/10/2013 at 2:56 pm

    I think alyce is so old fashioned she had no clue… no clue about phone sex, no clue about wobos psychopathology, no clue about texting.. no clue about women using their sexuality to manipulate men…… just totally out of her depth in every facet of this case.

    wobo saw her comong from a mile away esp with the apology and snow white story.. and the rest is history. BUT her notes Juan Baby has prove at one stage she was headed down the right track.. which goes to her deliberately disregarding those initial views to cater to her brief.

  262. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 3:04 pm

    this judge has no control, lawyer asks a yes or no question but judge allows witnesses to babble on and on and she should wake up, open her mouth and tell them to answer yes or no. If the judge has no control of her courtroom them who does… it would seem Jodi does, she must be loving this circus… wake up JUDGE

  263. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 3:05 pm

    Do u think that LaViolette has noticed Samantha’s sobbing? Hope she’s happy with her handiwork!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:07 pm

      if she thinks the txts Travis sent to wobo are abusive… boy I’d show her a whole new level of abusive txts for her disdain for this beautiful family!

  264. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 3:06 pm

    04/10/2013 at 2:54 pm | #632 Quote
    make that 94,487 now. Not impressed.

    PK: I’m worried .. was that a “naughty” link?
    Just did google search and pasted link . I’m at work and cant go back to look in case it is . Please let me know and I will post a reply to NOT look or ask mod to remove.

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:11 pm

      seems so.. thinking s/be removed in case

      • truejustice
        04/10/2013 at 3:23 pm

        omg … so embarrassed .. I know better than to post w/o review.

  265. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/10/2013 at 3:06 pm

    I wonder what the jury thinks of Alice any ideas

  266. dedapaske
    04/10/2013 at 3:07 pm

    So, She doesnt believe Travis was stalked because he didnt get a restrainig order or call the police…..umm but you do believe that Jodi was abused although she didnt call the police or tell anyone. I dont know who I want to slap more. Jodi’s arrogant ass, or ALV for being so stupid. OH, and HI everyone. I’ve been trying to catch up. I’m a newbie. 🙂

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 3:34 pm

      Well said! And welcome to the asylum:)

  267. 04/10/2013 at 3:08 pm

    wait for the jury questions Tami, then we will get a feel for that

  268. 04/10/2013 at 3:10 pm

    Does ALV really believe she is going to have a professional life after this? She cannot think she is doing well. I would also like to know what her success rate is with all her groups and clients. Snarky comments are welcome!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:13 pm

      for a start you cannot treat most abusers with traditional therapy.. ie what alyce is using.. they just learn more tricks, makes them worse.

      so thinking her success rate is eclipsed by epic fails.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/10/2013 at 3:19 pm

      I want to see that, too. I can tell you for sure in one case, my ex, the group he attended not only have me the rationalization to return to the relationship (I had filed for divorce), but it made him far more manipulative and taught him how to be a better abuser, cuz he spent a year around other abusers who all traded their tricks of the trade.

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 3:47 pm

        And yet ALV believes that these men are being honest when they discuss their abusive behavior. She can even tell you with certainty that they would think Travis’ words are abusive. Because they’ve apparently been so successfully treated they’re now the allies of abused women everywhere.

  269. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 3:13 pm

    LaViolette seems more confident today and relaxed. She’s also talking to the jury more directly. Lots of coaching from Wilmott last night obviously!

  270. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 3:14 pm

    so let me get this correct …if I get mad at my husband and I go tell ALV that he hit and choked me and he was looking at pictures of little boys, she would believe me…without any proof

  271. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 3:17 pm

    So let me get this correct…if I tell ALV that my husband hit and choked me…was looking at pictures of little boys without any proof she will believe me

  272. 04/10/2013 at 3:17 pm

    And for entertainment during intermission:

    Olde Fashioned Alice busy at home: (courtesy of Chrissie)

    pic:https://twitter.com/PlanetChrissie/status/321855287789244418/photo/1

  273. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 3:18 pm

    Alyce in Chains, oops, mean Jodi in Chains.

  274. Katie
    04/10/2013 at 3:20 pm

    So let me understand this correctly….If I tell ALV that my husband hit me and choked me and was looking at pictures of little boys without ANY proof she will take my word for it …correct

    • Katie
      04/10/2013 at 3:22 pm

      I forgot to add i’m on trial for murder and have a very good reason to lie

      • 04/10/2013 at 3:30 pm

        only if you pay her $250-300/hour

    • Mckealty
      04/10/2013 at 5:59 pm

      Any court in America will believe you.

      As a female, you can walk into a court tomorrow morning, simply tell the judge you are “in fear” and they will hand you a 209A like Burger King hands out french fries.

      You can then use that 209A to destroy your husband for the rest of his life.

      You’ll never, ever be asked for proof.

      Your husband, however, will be driven to prove a negative, that is, prove he’s never hurt you or done anything.

      You can then have his wages garnished, removed him from the home, remove him from his children and everything he’s ever worked for.

      This is what feminism has given us. The ALV’s of the world.

      The zeitgeist that women are victims and men are dangerous.

      40% of domestic violence victims are men. Be they straight, gay or bi-sexual.

      Yet our probate court system is setup, after year of bombardment by groups of people like ALV, to destroy the idea of families and fatherhood.

      So, to answer your question, you don’t need to pay ALV $300 an hour to destroy a man’s name. You just have to write the phrase “in fear” on a piece of paper.

      • Crystal Harris
        04/10/2013 at 6:37 pm

        You are SO wrong. My ex husband was criminally convicted of raping me, sentenced to 6 yrs in prison, and yet in Family Court the judge ordered ME to pay HIM spousal support, to pay HIS legal fees, and immediate reunification of him with our two boys once he’s released from prison, despite my boys’ fear of him. This resulted in my successful change in the law in CA last year (AB1522) so that judges can’t order any monetary awards from his victim if he’s been criminally convicted. As for the custody issue, that is in the Appeals Court with oral arguments May 15.
        But it is almost urban legend that a woman’s “word” can destroy her husband’s life. A TEMPORARY restraining order can be easily obtained, but there is always a subsequent hearing on making that order permanent.

  275. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 3:32 pm

    Robert in Rotterdam :
    well look at it this way; LaToilette is kaput as a expert, but there is always the chance to audition for a Depends commercial! They go for that toothy grin sometimes right adfter they say that one should consult a doctorif they behave funny in court.

    She’s no June Allyson! But for the right $, I suspect she’d sign on the dotted line!

  276. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 3:33 pm

    Just give up Alyce!!! You’ve taken bias to a whole new level!!

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 3:36 pm

      Oh thank you Alyce! You don’t see Travis as a stalker either! How gracious of you! (Heavy sarcasm intended)

  277. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 3:35 pm

    Hey Syn, can you (or anyone for that matter) answer me somethin’ that you prob already have? Can a person like Aunt Bea Ess feel empathy/sympathy for Travis and his family? You said tunnel vision somewhere up there. How much denial would be involved for her to behave this way? I’m lost as to how someone can sit there and look like that and say what she says like she’s in some sort of trance or something. Baffled beyond belief.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 3:43 pm

      I’m baffled too! My own unsolicited opinion (somewhat based on what Syntara posted earlier today) is that it’s ego-driven and a result of a mindset that was strongly biased already before she took this case. But I can’t really offer a full answer because how you could look at all the evidence in this case ( of premeditation, of the defendant’s lying) and believe the perpetrator is a victim is truly mind-bending!

    • 04/10/2013 at 3:51 pm

      yes. Far as I see she has full range emotions. She may be egocentric to the point of excluding all that doesn’t suit her agenda but yes she would feel empathy.

      Probably too much of it in Jodi’s case because it was ill placed empathy (or stupidity) that urged her to apologise to wobo early in their first meeting.

      You NEVER apologise to a manipulator certainly not on a first meeting. They literally target people with empathy because they prey on empathy, kindness and sympathy. They view those traits as weakness, particularly narcissists and even more so psychopaths.

      Alyce is dissociating, she is justifying her actions to herself. It’s very likely that once (if ever) reality smashes through this denial, she will need intense therapy to recover from what she has done. At the moment she seems caught up in it, almost a stockholme syndrome in that she is held captive by her choice to back Jodi.

      Not sure if that’s clear but I believe it is the dynamic we are seeing.

      • Marilyn N
        04/10/2013 at 4:00 pm

        But don’t you think part of it is that’s what she is being paid to do, and therefore will Never change her mind outwardly at this point?

        Juan is doing his good job getting in the reality by his line of questioning.

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 4:02 pm

        That’s very clear! Thanks for the explanation! I like your use of the Stockholm syndrome!

      • 04/10/2013 at 4:04 pm

        also want to add – it may be she will never truly face up to what she has done, because it could well be far too traumatic for her to do. Which will lead to far more negative long term result. Living in denial can cause a myriad of negative reinforced symptoms.

      • Marilyn N
        04/10/2013 at 4:07 pm

        I can’t remember, what did she say about why she apologized? (knowing all about her private sex life?)

      • 04/10/2013 at 4:10 pm

        sje qppeared to justify it by saying she felt she had invaded Jodi’s privacy – totally inappropriate reasoning under the circumstances

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 4:07 pm

        “They literally target people with empathy because they prey on empathy, kindness and sympathy.”
        wow…sick to stomach….why am I letting myself learn about theze weirdos? Why can’t I avert my eyes? Oh yeah, I’m back….JUSTICE FOR TRAVIS.
        Your post was so helpful to me. And I couldn’t agree more that, if she DOESN’T SEEK intense therapy after this, we should be more afraid than we are now. I guess right now, the money could be keeping her going. Aunt Bea Ess dreams of retiring….with some money….all alone, with noJuan to bother her…happy place..shiny things…etc. I don’t see how anyone comes out of that fog she’s in, but I wish her all the best.
        Thank you as always, Syn! 🙂

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 3:53 pm

      (unofficial answer) The voices in her trained brain are telling her what to do…

  278. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 3:42 pm

    And Family of Law – I’m losing IQ points too! I’ve already forgotten how to spell. I just want us all to be able to meet back here someday and sing, “ding dong the witch is dead.” I swear, right after the she devil bitched about Juan’s tone for Travis, she had a look on her face like pure evil I’ve never seen. How desperate is she becoming now? What is her newest strategy these daze since lala-looloo lady isn’t panning out just right. Trick!

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 4:06 pm

      Oh my, you said it! That look was PURE unadulterated malice! (shiver). As for IQ points, my HOPE is that we are all here in May, DUMB and HAPPY that that tune plays loud!

  279. Patty
    04/10/2013 at 3:45 pm

    I have never posted on this site before, however, I read it everyday and love it! You are very interesting and funny people!

    Anyway, I was watching JA during the trial today, and I was wondering why she seems so indifferent towards the whole affair, just coloring away and smirking when it dawned on me that JA may have been so obsessed with “”owning” Travis, her intentions were to go to Mesa, enjoy one last sexual encounter with him, then murder him to be sure that SHE would be the last one to have him. It is possible, that in her mind, SHE’s already the winner.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:10 pm

      First welcome from those hanging around! If you have a chance to read some of SYNTARA’s posts–ones since WOBO took the stand- to understand a bit about emotions and human capabilities most people take for granted, but are truly absent -in MRI;s as well as in Epistemology- to all but themselves.
      There was also some spooky detective work done by someone here, with audio of the wobo
      interview with police where one can actuall hear her say she “beat him” and “won again”
      Hang on–there’s more a Juancoming ahead.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 4:58 pm

      Because she’s a sociopath, just like Travis said. (Or a psychopath) She doesn’t have the same range of emotions we do, she doesn’t feel anxiety on the same level we would feel, and she has a lot of arrogance and probably the ability to disassociate from what’s going on around her. I also think she has a defiant attitude, like I’m not going to show anybody I’m down. I also think she uses the sketching as a way to calm herself and to feel superior, like I’m an accomplished artiste, I’ll show them, I’ve got more important things to focus on!

  280. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/10/2013 at 3:46 pm

    Check this out….hope it works….we’re doing it from the IPAD!

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 2h
    #JodiArias DEF EATING DINNER last night with ALYCE “coaching” PHOTO BELONG2 @Mallory_Harvey <–OWNS PHOTO
    pic.twitter.com/ReyUIemOWT

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:14 pm

      AZ taxpayers!!Look at her double billing you I bet! You pay for her to stuff her face with pizza and fries and then you pay her for her “time” asd an “expert” with the lawyers paid with other peoples money.

  281. Marilyn N
    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/10/2013 at 3:55 pm

      Geeezzzz….how do you guys do that! That’s the picture we were trying to link to. Thanks…at least you got it!1

  282. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 3:54 pm

    Go Juan!!! Wonder how many times he used the word “stalker” today! Just like what Wormy did to Travis’ siblings when he repeatedly crowed about Travis’ “abuse” and “pedophilia”, Martinez is showing that you can use a word like a weapon. Difference being his words are true.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:16 pm

      Oh yes!!Good insight. When you hear a word – or a phrase -a LOT, it stays around for awhile. Like “context” and”44 hours” and “abuser” and “stalker!!!!”

  283. 04/10/2013 at 3:59 pm

    Love this:

    Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 6h
    “Just Because You Ask Me, Doesn’t Mean I Have To Answer” #alycelaviolette’s guideline to testifying under cross examination. #jodiarais

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:18 pm

      Hahahahah. What one puts on a tee shirt for a young girl of about 10 when you goes about for her first time in the area. her mother told her that if she wears thios shirt, bad people will know that you don’t have to talk to them and you can come right home.

  284. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 4:00 pm

    And what exactly are the drinking rules again? Can we or can we not say ‘it’s 5 o’clock somewhere’ when we have people here from all over the place? Yes? I need approval from my most trusted peers out there…. giggle 🙂

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 4:09 pm

      Bottoms up, Anna! 🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸 (if you don’t have “emojis, those little squares are Martini glasses)

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 4:11 pm

      Hey, I CAN see all the little glasses you lined up for me. We are sharing these right? giggle Cheers, friend! *cyber-clink*

      • Family of Law
        04/10/2013 at 4:14 pm

        Ooh yeah! Yes, I “cyber clink” to you! Cheers to you my friend!

    • Laine
      04/10/2013 at 4:21 pm

      In the UK it’s 9:30pm definately martini time 😉 enjoy ladies!!

      • Family of Law
        04/10/2013 at 4:33 pm

        Ooh! Join us Laine! Here’s a few for you! 🍸🍸🍸Cheers!

  285. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 4:00 pm

    According to Mz. Toilette- any young bachelor that dates a couple girls at the same time (or even flirts with more than one at a time) – is a “bad guy” (even though she doesn’t like the word bad). It’s completely beyond rational thinking! I’ve been married since I was 21, but 30 years later, I still remember what a flirt my handsome Romeo used to be:). I’m the mother of a 23 year old young man, who definitely “played the field” until he began dating his current girlfriend- I’m also the only sister to 4 older brothers- their dating behavior prior to finding “the one” was pretty typical, IMO- they dated (sometimes simultaneously- more than once, I was used as their alibi, lol!) lots of different girls- and I highly doubt (even though we were raised Catholic) that any of them married as virgins (for certain, not the second eldest, he was kind of a slut, lol). So, by Toilette’s assessment, my husband, son and brothers all deserved to be brutally murdered? It’s pure insanity!

    And memo to Mz. Toilette, welcome to the 21st century- WOMEN are as comfortable with their sexuality as men- and here’s one for you- SOME women even USE their sexuality to MANIPULATE men, stalk them AND terrorize them, AND murder them in cold blood!

    End rant.

    • Laine
      04/10/2013 at 4:12 pm

      Yup….couldn’t agree more as the mother of a 30yr son and two daughters 34 & 28 who ALSO played the feild at times! Great Rant!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:31 pm

      Well first mother of 23 year old: you still got your sharps we can all tell that. And yeah!
      Its not a rant-more like a pitched vowel or two amongst word storms.

      She paints an absolutely “60’s and 70’s” point of view(and lets face it, we NEEDED people like Bella Abzug and Andrea Dworkin and Germaine Greer and Kate Millet to wake people up to what had been ignored during the time to get equal rights for members of a “race.” For about 10 years, a struggle got the volume turned up on the matters of GENDER. It got culturally established that an imbalance 1)was present and 2) was being dealt with academically, politically and culturally

      Ms LaLa graduated High School and went to college and-apparently raised a couple of kids during this time and THEN got into the “field” in 1980 when things were already well on track.But she found her niche and her mission. Men bad, Women good.Deny biology and gender Force feed emotion control; learn how to fleece the system developed AFTER the theories and after the pioneers did their work..Its not an unworthy effort or profession. But its also not scientific, scholarly, standardized or particularly well defined. Appearing as someone who is an “expert” in anything at a murder one trial seems ugh, well its just so…. discombobulated?

      • Family of Law
        04/10/2013 at 7:21 pm

        Robert, I just love the way you write! Yes, the dark ages have come and gone- and LALA still thinks archaically….

        “sharps”?

  286. Laine
    04/10/2013 at 4:08 pm

    The jury are spotting all the double standards being applied here by AVL. I see the noose hanging over her head as she steps further and further into it….she is slowly but surely allowing Juan to execute her with her own words….The lady (and I use the term loosly) is not smart enough to challenge Juan and he is leading to that hanging scaffold!

    Hi everyone! ****waves****

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 4:15 pm

      Hey Laine!! Fun ain’t it? I missed a bunch do to life happening in the stupid background but from what I saw, the Juan is On!

      • Laine
        04/10/2013 at 4:18 pm

        Hey Anna, You know he is so mesmerising to watch, because he is a true artist at giving nothing away….he just lets her ramble and then picks her up and spins her round on it! He is a master! The Juan is definately on!! 🙂

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:46 pm

      Spot on Laine. She is no Einstein. In some respects, she is dumb as a box of rocks.

  287. 04/10/2013 at 4:09 pm

    Marilyn N :
    But don’t you think part of it is that’s what she is being paid to do, and therefore will Never change her mind outwardly at this point?
    Juan is doing his good job getting in the reality by his line of questioning.

    Behaviour looks to actions not words Marilyn. So what she does outwardly can be very different to what is going on internally. Best example: Look to Jodi. Written, persona, words. = fake, fake, fake

  288. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 4:11 pm

    “I agreed with his verbiage.” Way to obfuscate! She doesn’t believe something Travis writes to be true but she does believe what Jodi doesnt write to be true. OMG how much more convoluted can her reasoning get? And how much more obvious can her bias be?

  289. Laine
    04/10/2013 at 4:15 pm

    Lets also remember that if she agrees to what Juan is implying she is also agreeing SHE was manipulated by JA….her reputation is in shreds either way!

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:18 pm

      yep exactly what I meant by being held captive by her choice to back Jodi.

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 4:23 pm

        So are those ‘dear in the headlights’ looks from her? The trance-face thing….is she likely to experience PTSD? Oh dadadear (as in Piglet). How great would it be if she just said, ‘Mr. Martinez, I quit. You’re right. She’s a beast and I should not be here for her.” As if.

      • Laine
        04/10/2013 at 4:27 pm

        Hey Syn ***waves**** her credibility is shot and she knows it, she made the choice to testify for the bucks….easy money….Wrong choice! Bad mistake Retirement is heronly option now!

  290. Patty
    04/10/2013 at 4:18 pm

    Well, having worked DV for the criminal justice system for 7 years, it is my experience that Abuse and Stalking are based on the need for the abuser to OWN & CONTROL the victim. It takes NO stretch of the imagination to see who assumed that role here. Travis was enjoying playing the field, he was not interested in OWNING anyone. This Ownership issue has been avoided by ALV purposefully because it would never fit for Travis.

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:21 pm

      possession.. she wanted to possess him and could not stand she was unable to reel him in. same same but more extreme.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 4:44 pm

      And she said on the stand that she sees stalking and domestic violence as different. In what way? So stalking isn’t part of domestic violence, according to her? Interesting how she’s trying to make that distinction. Doesn’t that continuum of hers mention interpersonal terrorism and wouldn’t stalking be a form of that?

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 5:41 pm

      And Patty, as I’ve said before, they are trying to show Travis wanted to own Jodi because he “made” her wear a shirt that said “Travis Alexander’s” and that is completely bogus. First of all, that would mean any woman who wears a Mrs. So-and-So shirt is owned by her husband. Jodi LONGED to be owned by Travis! She wore that shirt proudly.

      • Patty
        04/10/2013 at 7:22 pm

        Thank you for the info! Has it been proven that Travis purchased that clothing for JA, or is this just another physco move by JA to impress Travis?

  291. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 4:19 pm

    “And memo to Mz. Toilette, welcome to the 21st century- WOMEN are as comfortable with their sexuality as men- and here’s one for you- SOME women even USE their sexuality to MANIPULATE men, stalk them AND terrorize them, AND murder them in cold blood!”
    Exactly!

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 4:27 pm

      And btw, Aunt Bea Ess, you still haven’t answered me….did you view the crime photos? If I were the Juan in charge, I’d be asking her that a lot just to remind her to wipe that strange, lost smile off her face. This is a very gross murder trial lady.

  292. 04/10/2013 at 4:24 pm

    Laine :
    Hey Anna, You know he is so mesmerising to watch, because he is a true artist at giving nothing away….he just lets her ramble and then picks her up and spins her round on it! He is a master! The Juan is definately on!!

    Exactly Laine *waves*

    see how he took in what Jodi said on the stand and yesterday turned it on her to show how ridiculous it was and today again with the standing outside the house.. using it to illustrate stalking behaviour.

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 4:30 pm

      Lightens my heart that we can pound on the stalking behavior. It’s so important to this case!

  293. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 4:27 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    http://wildabouttrial.com/one_off/ex-tenn-judge-sentenced-in-drugs-sex-scheme/ … Ex-Tenn. #judge sentenced in #drugs, #sex scheme. #RichardBaumgartner #CriminalJustice #News #Law #Trial #court

  294. kristin
    04/10/2013 at 4:29 pm

    Why has JA always been so obsessed about dating marriage material? She was younger and still hadnt obtained her high school diploma much less a higher education. Damn hadn’t she ever heard that true love will happen when you least expect it and with whom you least expect it with.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 4:40 pm

      Well, I’m sure the defense could say that it has to do with the fact that Mormons were pressured to get married in their twenties. Although, she only became a Mormon after she met Travis, so I’m not sure how you’d explain her behavior before then with that theory. I have often thought about how odd it is that a woman of 28 who supposedly had plans for her life (according to her mother) didn’t get her GED until she went to jail. I think she wanted a man to provide her with material wealth and basically take care of her. So although she was independent in some ways, leaving home at a young age, moving here and there, she wasn’t necessarily living independently, was usually with a guy, it seems, including the bf she lived with for years in a home they supposedly co-owned, and the first time she moved out of home it was to live with a boyfriend. I think the defense just co-opted this Mormon idea of looking for marriageable men to try to explain the defendant’s pattern of using men.

  295. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 4:30 pm

    Afternoon all!!! My poor golden retriever needed to make an unexpected trip to the vet (he’s gonna be fine) so I’ve been gone. Just getting caught up now….

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 4:31 pm

      Hugs to your puppy from me! Glad he’s gonna be okay.Welcome home Tracey!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 4:33 pm

        Thanks Girl! How are you doing today??? 🙂

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:35 pm

      Read ;em and weep! Welcome back

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 4:39 pm

        Thanks Robert. I hope that means “ha ha” weeping. 🙂

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:41 pm

      I have a golden too! Such awesome dogs!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 4:52 pm

        He’s my fifth one! My favorite breed!

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:06 pm

      Hi Tracey~glad you are back and all is well. Headed to the vet in a few with our dog. See you tonite!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 5:27 pm

        Uh oh! Nothing to serious I hope 😦

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 7:28 pm

      Glad it was nothing too serious! I love Goldens, such beauties! With great dispositions 🙂

  296. 04/10/2013 at 4:31 pm

    Anna :
    So are those ‘dear in the headlights’ looks from her? The trance-face thing….is she likely to experience PTSD? Oh dadadear (as in Piglet). How great would it be if she just said, ‘Mr. Martinez, I quit. You’re right. She’s a beast and I should not be here for her.” As if.

    Anna, don’t think so. She seems to be taking on the fight and digging her heels in at this stage. This is the justification to herself that somehow what she is doing is right. How she is justifying it.. I mean literally how as in what she is thinking to help her justify it that is, at least for the moment, unclear and open to debate.

    In psychological terms this is cognitive dissonance. Until there is a reason, the balance tips the other way, she will continue in this vein.

    Example: People who smoke. They know it is detrimental to health but do it anyway until something happens to stop them. It may or may not ever happen. They justify it to themselves by saying.. well you can die rossing the road.. so why give up. That kind of thing.

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 4:33 pm

      Ah, cognitive dissonance. Now I get it. Thank you friend!!! I guess the trance look is just a personal problem….

      • 04/10/2013 at 4:34 pm

        can be she is in that trance because of her inner turmoil Anna.

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 5:27 pm

        maybe that combined with a nice slice of simple stupidity???

  297. 04/10/2013 at 4:33 pm

    ooo alyce was a bit cooperative then! wow

  298. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 4:34 pm

    meltdown beginning?

  299. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 4:35 pm

    she left her phone ON. haha

  300. 04/10/2013 at 4:35 pm

    omg her cell phone just went off!!!

  301. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 4:35 pm

    HAHAHAHAHAH reality called on her cell and she didn’t take the call!

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:37 pm

      ROFL darn she missed that call!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 4:38 pm

      Or it was Maricopa County Central Accounting….they want their money back!!!!!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 4:40 pm

        RIGHT NOW! Not DIME spent on this nightmare!another f—-in

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 5:25 pm

        The Charge before Sir Jim: death by laughter to a harmless old nutty lady that posts at her own risk… and it was probably pre-med as well. Someone needs to look into that, please…..

  302. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 4:35 pm

    Jodi Einstein with ANOTHER version!!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:41 pm

      Hahaha getting me warmed up for Part II o fthe day

  303. 04/10/2013 at 4:36 pm

    wjeres the blood in the closet you stupid woman???? if she shot him in the closet how does it look pristine???? not a drop of blood! It’s the neatest closet you could find!

  304. 04/10/2013 at 4:40 pm

    jhajhahahahahahhahahah

  305. 04/10/2013 at 4:41 pm

    no there is no reason not to believe she is a sociopath! thank you Juan my baby!

  306. donchais
    04/10/2013 at 4:41 pm

    OMFG!!!!

    :O4/10/2013 MOT – Motion – Party (001) 4/10/2013 NOTE: DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO COMPEL; JOURNALS SEIZED FROM MS. ARIAS’ JAIL CELL ON OR ABOUT APRIL 1, 2013

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:43 pm

      explain to a layman.. what does this mean?

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 4:46 pm

        The Prosecution had the jail seize some of her personal property (journals) and the defense wants to see them….

      • 04/10/2013 at 4:48 pm

        ah ok was thin king that but wasn’t sure. now want to know what’s in em!! 😀

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 4:44 pm

      WOW! That should be an interesting read.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 4:45 pm

      Well this truly is ineffective counsel…. they forgot to tell their little sugar mine to stop writing crap down!!!!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 4:54 pm

        I just can’t BELIEVE how short-side her lawyers are here… Total morons! If JA wants to keep journals while she is in custody, Wilnot is CRAZY for not collecting it from her at the end of each day!

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:01 pm

        she can’t

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 5:36 pm

        No joke, right? Wow. Isn’t that lawyering 101?

      • 04/10/2013 at 6:39 pm

        Maybe that’s the plan. Set it up for ineffective counsel if she’s found guilty. That may be their best defense yet!

  307. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 4:43 pm

    What?? Travis was “over the top” angry??? This is pitiful!

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:44 pm

      I see him plainly stating the truth nothing more

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 4:45 pm

        Exactly!

  308. NapaNonnie
    04/10/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Yes MS please turn the mobile off for her and get her glasses while you are at it . . .

  309. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Travis had a much more accurate assessment of JA then ALV!!!

  310. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 4:46 pm

    ALV is batshit cray and the BIGGEST effing phony I have heard in a longggg time. aoff with her head NOW!

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:52 pm

      the weirdest thing is she is all over the place, like she has no path. This ties in withn her not submitting a written report.. so she can be lead all over the place, but ends up she meanders through lala land with no distinct foundation except to keep saying “domestic violence” “Battered women” it’s ridiculous.

  311. 04/10/2013 at 4:46 pm

    Oh wow! Just got home and not watching on live stream (so I may be a bit behind the eight ball), but witnessing ALV being caught off guard by realizing she’s been lied to by Snow Job White is priceless! Looks like she bit off more than she could chew of that poison apple!

  312. Marilyn N
    04/10/2013 at 4:46 pm

    Are you guys down?

  313. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 4:47 pm

    How magnanimous of ALV to say “everyone has the right to be angry.”

  314. 04/10/2013 at 4:47 pm

    ooooooooooo wow that ended abruptly didnt see that coming

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 4:50 pm

      Oh no! No warning! Pass the vodka, hip waders, and foil hats!

  315. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 4:47 pm

    Oh NO! Juan has no more questions??? Brace yourselves for the giggle fest. Let’s see how ALV’s demeanor is now. I’m guessing a 180 about face!

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 4:53 pm

      Lavatory will now sit and chat with her girlfriend, “coffee tawlk”!

      • 04/10/2013 at 4:54 pm

        hehe!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 4:56 pm

        LOL! Now it’ll be easy to catchup since I can tune this crap out.

  316. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 4:47 pm

    RABBIT HOLE NOW, AND QUICK…AH….

  317. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 4:47 pm

    That’s it??? Now we get to listen to Wilmott for the rest of the week. Ugh!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 4:56 pm

      AH Crap! OH NO! I was writing stuff and went to screen and wTF? Well I understand I guess, Juan is a gentleman and you don’t stomp on or stab in the back and head someone when they are down-in a shower or “psychologicaly- and she was about as down and out as they come. So, Senor el Jaunster just slipped his sword (metaphorically) back in the scabbard and strolled home.
      Now all of YOU READERS here have to report because, as I mentioned, no can do on the re-direct. Drives me, well, its just so fraking awful.

  318. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 4:48 pm

    OOh, he’s bringing in the sociopath accusation! Ha!

  319. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 4:50 pm

    Imagine at some community board hearing somewhere in the States, some money finally becomes available to assist some poor folks who have had anger problemsin relationships. They mean well; they want to love; they don’t know how. The haven’t had guideance and they dont want to go to their mosque or church or synogue or wildwire, whatever.

    They hear about LaLa and what she made of this “psychological” stuff, President Eisenhower used to say, “um, ‘psychological’, that’s a 5 syllable, a 5 dollar word” and thats way beyond my likes. Thats now how they will think

    . They will say, ya know, I seen that Lady and heard about the domedstic violence stuff and I think that extra money would do just asd well in the boxing program and the chess clubs and the tennis fields. I dont think we want any of this “5 dollar thinking” around!Tajke a vote?

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:59 pm

      Dr Dodgy and lala are reponsible. they have used true pschobabble and mumbo jumbo and abetted the fiction that psychology is invalid. It makes me sooo mad!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 5:10 pm

        exactly and believe me thats why these “high profile” cases matter. Barry Scheck of the Innocence Project took the OJ case, I believe, because he was able to show the possiblities of DNA evidence in court. This was in 1994/5. This was new. So he danced on the side of the devil like Faust, but, unlike Faust, he was able to save his soul, because he NEVER suggested that the evidence of DNA be viewed “subjectively-he KNEW the client’s DNA was all over the place but he never had to dodge or misstate or fail to anser or fog up. He explained the process of replicating samples of DNA and what that meant. He had to do this for a bunch of Los Angeles voters most of whom were either retired or on the government payroll. A “good” exoert canopen the eyes of the system and the world. His work is DIRECTLY responsible for saving th elives of scores of people,

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:15 pm

        which is what In gave lala the benefit ofn then doubt on at the beginning of her testimony. I thought she was just going to run through her continuum inferring and then Juan would limk it with Jodi… that way Lala could have had it both ways. But she wasn’t smart enough and tango’d with the devil and drank from the Challis

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 5:45 pm

      Really good points here Robert. So sad to think how this could hurt so many people who really need help. Alas, isn’t this system too broken to really be fixed in any true, far-reaching manner? As they’re want to say, the inmates are in charge of the asylum. And they’re being rewarded quite handsomely. There, of course, are a lot of really good people out there working for true justice and honestly trying to help people in need. Sometimes I think we have it ass-backwards (sorry). It’s really depressing. Family of Law, could you please blend up another batch? Thank you sweets!! 🙂

  320. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 4:51 pm

    So she can’t diagnose anything and she is supposed to be a DV person, if she is giving out info from that book to patients so they can put it on their insurance, I think that is called FRAUD

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 4:54 pm

      Yup! Can’t call it “malpractice”, because LaLa is not a real doctor!

  321. 04/10/2013 at 4:53 pm

    Snooze time!

  322. NapaNonnie
    04/10/2013 at 4:54 pm

    So you are actually the worse thing that ever happened to Travis. Right on Juanderful!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 4:56 pm

      That was priceless!

  323. 04/10/2013 at 4:54 pm

    omg now the continuum is all of a sudden relevant again??????????????

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 4:59 pm

      This woman is a stone cold bitch!!!

  324. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 4:56 pm

    Now Olde Fashioned Alyce gets to exercise the other side of her neck. (No longer has to get the okay from the defense table.)

  325. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 4:57 pm

    Let’s see, it is 5 to 5. Guess a little cocktail or 2 (or 3 or 4) might be needed to get through to 7:30. Hmmm, not might, but definitely.

  326. 04/10/2013 at 4:58 pm

    Is it just me or does ALV look like she’s aged overnight?

  327. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 4:58 pm

    Ok, ONCE AGAIN ALV, they were REMOVED FROM THAT HOME WHEN HE WAS 7. WTF???

    Ok, libation time 🙂

  328. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 4:59 pm

    Jim :
    I just can’t BELIEVE how short-side her lawyers are here… Total morons! If JA wants to keep journals while she is in custody, Wilnot is CRAZY for not collecting it from her at the end of each day!

    Hi Jim- question: Does the State have equal right to view these ceased journals? (Hopefully before the defense tampers with them?

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 5:02 pm

      (Seized)

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 5:07 pm

        (the State is the one that seized them) The Defense wants them back so they can see what their little girl has been up to….

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 5:06 pm

      “For institutional security reasons” the jail can seize property – they are not permitted to view “legal material” (crap she gets from her lawyers). Seized property can be for a variety of reasons: Items not allowed (she’s been dinged for that numerous times), more of something than she is allowed to have; and communications not protected by privilege. Thats why I’m so shocked Wilnot isn’t retaining all these bird cage liners she is making everyday…

      • HJ Madison
        04/10/2013 at 5:10 pm

        So, has the prosecution gotten to see them?

      • Trial watcher
        04/10/2013 at 5:11 pm

        BIRD CAGE LINERS!!! I absolutely love it!! That’s even too sad for the bird in the cage!!!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 5:16 pm

        HJM: Presumably – they are the ones that seized them. They would need time to review and copy them before handing them over though….

  329. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 5:00 pm

    JW is an unethical and slimy lawyer like the big whale with his SOLE practice dedicated to getting off sexual preditors. These people have NO souls. They could certainly represent their evil client without AGAIN trashing the ONLY victim in this case. I abhor them both.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 5:13 pm

      I agree with you that what they’re doing is repulsive. But, and this is not meant to defend their actions, could they REALLY defend their client without trashing her victim? I completely abhor their methods, believe me, but what else did they have to work with? The only other option I can see would be if they had put on an insanity defense, but everyone knows they never work, or maybe they could have argued crime of passion, but again, to show a lack of premeditation, wouldn’t they have to try to prove that something valid prompted her behavior? And of course there’s nothing, so they only have her word and smoke and mirrors and trashing the victim to try to get her out of a first degree conviction. I mean, don’t defense attorneys have a legal obligation to rigorously defend their clients? I still think it’s absolutely abhorrent what they’re doing to Travis’ memory and to his family and I’m not excusing it, just wondering what other choices they had. The legal system in our country seems to almost encourage unethical behavior by defense attorneys. Any legal minds out there want to chime in?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 6:23 pm

        All decent points. NancyB the other day left a good comment on the ways our system of adversarial and win/lose might evolve into what other countries are trying like professional jurors, more inquisituve than prosecutorial focus. As long as there is this “either this or that” mentality.There currently is also the additional element of an “oath” (also not used in many places nowadays,) which will mean less and less the more people break it by lying under it.
        I think all these “officers “of the court should have said–look, your options are limite here; we can’t in good conscience sugget anything other than temporary craziness over love & beg for sympathy as you show remorse. Thats it. Thats what we can do for you. Don’t likeit? Defend yourself> Too much? Tough. You don’t always get what you want.

  330. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 5:00 pm

    Oh no! Just caught sight of DonoMan! Good Lord! That shirt color! He/she could be a crossing guard! Wow! I need my sunglasses! 8)

  331. Anniefreeze
    04/10/2013 at 5:01 pm

    All day long I have been anxious to go home to watch the trial. I’m home, I am viewing YouTube by crrakerqueen. Ok. Now I’m drinking. Wtf. I want to send hate notes to everyone but Juan.

  332. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 5:01 pm

    Syntara :
    You NEVER apologise to a manipulator certainly not on a first meeting. They literally target people with empathy because they prey on empathy, kindness and sympathy. They view those traits as weakness, particularly narcissists and even more so psychopaths.

    I believe she targeted Travis partly for his empathy. She knew he was a good person and she knew that when she showed up to his house at 3:00am he would not turn her away.

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:03 pm

      oh absolutely.

  333. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 5:02 pm

    Oh, no, Minnie Mouse is back! Time to turn on the mute button!

  334. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 5:04 pm

    Ask Aunt Bea Ess what time it is, and she will tell you how to construct a watch.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:15 pm

      No she’ll tell you that a watch is constructed of many parts and involves “thousannds”of things to know, and although she doesn’t know any of them, she will expect you to never, ever raise your voice when questioning her right to instruct you to build a watch.

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 5:21 pm

        *hides from her in corner, holds teddy bear, wonders a lot things out loud*

    • PAM
      04/10/2013 at 5:15 pm

      Good one….bahahahaaaa!

  335. Jane
    04/10/2013 at 5:04 pm

    “”You’re the worst thing thats ever happened to me” means that doesn’t mean anything. Not writing an entry in a journal means it actually DID happen.

    • Jane
      04/10/2013 at 5:25 pm

      Good God in Heaven this lady has killed Jodi. She was told by JA that Travis was shot in the closet. It is over. The jury can disregard anything they want if the witness is not credible. That includes ALV and Dr. Samuels. And Jodi. I think this defense table is screwed, they laugh, chatter, use eye language and the jury watches. Jodi used her own manipulation to kill her own ass.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 5:33 pm

        ^^^^ extremely concise, and incredibly accurate……..

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 5:45 pm

        And Jodi sketches– the jury can certainly see that, can’t they, and notice her disregard and disrespect for the prosecutor?

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 5:47 pm

      Yep, Jane, as Juan said in another case, the defense wants you to think left is right and up is down.

    • Trial watcher
      04/10/2013 at 5:58 pm

      Hi Jane:
      WOW! if any man said that to me I would think it meant just that,exactly what he said!
      This defense expert has cooked Jodi’s ass along with her own. Who the h-ll would go to
      this “domestic abuse expert” after watching this trial? NOT I, said the rabbit!!

  336. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 5:06 pm

    Remind me, please. Does the defense get to see the jury questions for ALV prior to them being asked? Does Juan? Does ALV? Assuming the defense gets to see the jury questions, do they get a chance to “prep” ALV or is she on her own? It seems to me Samuels was not prepped, but at this point, I am so confused I wouldn’t swear to anything. I can swear AT plenty of things, but not to any points of order.

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:11 pm

      As I remember it…. they do not get to prep for the questions They are shown the quesrions can argue aboutn them being asked or not then they are asked.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 5:13 pm

      Yes – the court allows both sides to review an interpose objections prior to them being asked..

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 5:20 pm

        shows the defense; when? At a certain moment or the day before when they can clue in the ex-expert or the Xpert! Cross her OUT X her out.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 5:27 pm

        It’s part of the discovery process – the sides are suppose to make relevant materials available to each other “asap” – if the Defense doesn’t believe they received something with enough time to prepare….well, there’s a motion for that…I think eL. Dirt Wurmi has a whole pile of blank ones at home, so he can sit in his underwear on Sunday afternoons and fill them out…

    • NancyB
      04/10/2013 at 5:16 pm

      Yes and so does their client & Juan & Travis’ family

  337. 04/10/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Love how Juan left it.. ready for his Psychologist.

    Nothing suggesting she isn’t a sociopath, she WAS the worst thing he ever met.

    Enter expert on this subject.

  338. katz63md
    04/10/2013 at 5:08 pm

    Does anyone else believe Wilmott is doing absolutely nothing to fix what Juan did?

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:17 pm

      she’s just going over what she said before. it’s crap blah blah blah has set in

    • NapaNonnie
      04/10/2013 at 5:27 pm

      I agree, no rehabilitation of la Toilet. She is still a biased expert.

  339. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 5:09 pm

    Does ALV have a folding table set up outside the courtroom to hawk her books, pamphlets, templates, t-shirts, etc.?

    • NapaNonnie
      04/10/2013 at 5:30 pm

      Yes, a big folder of the Time Space Continuum template held down by a brick with the price marked down hourly as her testimony circles the toilet.

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:42 pm

        Haha! Just sputtered all over my keyboard!!!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 5:46 pm

        LOL! That’s a GREAT visual! Hilarious!

  340. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 5:13 pm

    Ha ha – Hubs just came out and stated, “She doesn’t have any problems answering questions now! Nor does she refer to WillNot by her name as she did with MR MARTINEZ”
    😛

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:19 pm

      … and the continuum is back in relevance! like the fog.. it’s relevancy rolls in and out selectively

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 5:23 pm

        Yep, infuriating!

  341. Pamela
    04/10/2013 at 5:13 pm

    Hi Donchais. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, time and comments. Your analysis, wit and stick-to-it-iveness are much appreciated.

    I’m a survivor of an abusive/stalking relationship. I dated a guy back in the 80s who decided he wasn’t going away. The abuse was more mental than physical, but it devastated me just the same. The thing about abusers or stalkers is they don’t just walk into your life announcing how screwed up they are or that they’re going to rake havoc on your life. For the most part, they’re personable, attractive, very interesting people. On the flipside, they have a level of practiced cunningness that the victim knows nothing about. By the time you wake up and start seeing signs they’ve already planted themselves deep into your life.

    Things fell apart in my relationship. When I tried to end it he decided if couldn’t have me he’d make me miserable. I wasn’t aware of it at first, it was very subtle. I stopped taking phone calls, changed my phone number, reached out to family and friends. Even called police. Nothing backed him down (court order of protection, the whole nine). Eventually someone beat the crap out of him (for the umpteenth time) and he finally went away.

    It’s offensive for me to sit here and listen to ALV say she doesn’t think Travis was stalked. It’s also a very uncomfortable and difficult position to be in when someone is trampling on the very boundaries of your life. Stalking isn’t something you can put into some neat little trumped up analysis just because you’ve been running your mouth for 30 yrs. (and in ALV’s case, to God knows what victims). It is what it is and it cost Travis his life.

    I was in my 20s when this happened to me. I’d lived my young life firmly entrenched in the belief of my right to freedom as an American citizen. Not once did I ever think someone could walk into my life and strip me of those rights for no other reason than because they wanted to. It’s difficult to explain how it feels to slowly come to the realization that a person you let into some of the most intimate corners of your life is now attempting to strip you of those very freedoms. Your defenses are slow and you fight kind of weak because you haven’t fully identified this person as an enemy because you have some “history.” At some point you expect the person to be rational, not understanding rationality isn’t their thing. No school you’ve ever been to or chat you’ve ever had prepares you for such people, so you find yourself fighting for life, trying to think fast, trying to use every decent remedy you can think of, only your enemy doesn’t respect decency. I think Travis experienced such a moment and wasn’t certain how to handle it (most people don’t). The blazing email he sent to Jodi says to me he was outraged that she was trampling his freedom. He tried a polite approach at first, then amped it up to insults. Been there, done that. Backed in a corner, trying to maintain civility, not knowing I was in an all out war because the other person had no standards and was all about self.

    I survived my situation. Travis wasn’t as lucky. My heart goes out to Travis, his family and anyone who even remotely experiences something similar. Jodi’s psychotic, egotistical behind needs to be brought to justice. Too bad so many folks are being civil. I can think of other ways of dealing with her…then again, I’m scarred from having some lowlife trample my life. When someone asks you to walk away, back the hell up and respect their life.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:31 pm

      Thank you for that,It is vivid,and has an earned experience that ives it depth.

      As I think of a couple of experiences /realtionships in my 20s (and into the 30’s and into ..well you get the idea) I was entangled and angry and wired and couldn’t see it as clearly as others. I remeber one time ,right after introudicng my latest GF to colleagues, I heard there was an immediate assesment that it wouldlast 6 months, tops. (close to the mark).I never had the crazy and stalked AFTER, I only had ’ema couple of times DURING a relationship.

    • katz63md
      04/10/2013 at 5:31 pm

      Pamela, thank you for your story. We are all very happy that you have gotten away from that person and are working on a wonderful life. I think your comment of other ways of dealing with her is spot on. I think many of us have our guilty pleasures of what we would like to do to ALV and JA. Thanks again for sharing.

  342. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 5:15 pm

    people may have a hard time breaking up .. but they dont crawl through doggy doors, slit tires, and kill people

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:20 pm

      zegactly!

  343. NapaNonnie
    04/10/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Is “wacky” an accepted medical term in mental health or just the way you diagnose it ALV?

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:22 pm

      it’s up there with her usual vernacular

  344. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 5:19 pm

    Wow! And this case has “merit” to you???? Boy did you ever get snowed!

  345. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 5:19 pm

    Not that I ever really had anything for the word ‘continuum’ (I don’t even like the spelling..hate double u’s), but I’m now removing that word from my life as best I can. Continuum, continuum, sorry but goodbye continuum. Not that we really knew each other well. But having to part from most words is like loosing a potential friend. Nah, still can’t get past your spelling, so it’s all for the better anyway.
    Thanks for tarnishing my silver, aunt bubblebrain. I’m now convinced she may just be a little dumb, too.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 5:23 pm

      🙂 I’ll do a partial redaction on that word later when I post the summary of vocabulary words y’all have helped me create to send to AL…

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:33 pm

      Hahahahaha love it

  346. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 5:19 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I heard Juan requested a handy man come and make a bed under his desk until juror questions start

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:34 pm

      🙂

  347. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 5:19 pm

    How long do you all think that minnie mouse will stretch this out? P-l-e-a-s-e let her be done today!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:26 pm

      days and days

  348. LindaLou
    04/10/2013 at 5:21 pm

    Let me break out my 🎻 for poor Jodi, the cryer.

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:23 pm

      lol

  349. 04/10/2013 at 5:25 pm

    so he’s not allowed to talk to other women? yeah we get that. Can everyone say “controlling”

    • Crystal Harris
      04/10/2013 at 6:22 pm

      Was he not a single man? Geez!

  350. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 5:26 pm

    Motion for JA Jail journals April 1st – courtesy Chis Stark & Croakerqueen:

    https://twitter.com/croakerqueen/status/322089746002239488/photo/1

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:36 pm

      oooh motion to suppress shelving tests!!!!!! That been heard? How can they justify suppressing that?

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 5:43 pm

        That’s a WhereIsShe question

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:46 pm

        ya 🙂 or wendy murphy! did you listen to that? Essem posted link in here

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 6:04 pm

        Yes I listen to them most Sundays 🙂 I thought I shared that with you way back when KatieKoolLady posted on here 😛

      • 04/10/2013 at 6:12 pm

        if you did I missed it 😦 sorry

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 6:15 pm

        S’okay, I just sorry that you missed a lot of them, but they do have download links if you want to catch up 😉

      • Laine
        04/10/2013 at 6:00 pm

        I know this one!! I saw it answered on Twitter I think by Chris Stark….Because the tests were not done at the time of the Murder the prosecution can not confirm the same shelves or pegs were used in 2008 so there is a question around there validity!

      • 04/10/2013 at 6:03 pm

        don’t theynhave original shelving??? ok obviously not I guess

  351. SCK
    04/10/2013 at 5:27 pm

    WHAT A BIG BAG OF WIND!!!! Good grief — just feed her exactly what you want to hear….

  352. 04/10/2013 at 5:28 pm

    you can’t keep being angry at a ASPD +/-P or the terrorism increases.. you have to play a game with them and try to extricate yourself. They simply aren’t normal!

  353. Laine
    04/10/2013 at 5:29 pm

    Syn I have a question, my duaghter had a partner with severe OCD concerning writing things down. It was a compulsion that had to be done. Could she have this? I’m looking at the hidden pens recovered from her cell and now these journals, her constant writing in the court…It’s just a thought….

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:32 pm

      No I don’t think so. Her need is more to do with her persona and pathological lying, need to control and manipulate reality. That’s in line with her psychopathology and fits everything she does and has done.

      • Laine
        04/10/2013 at 5:38 pm

        Ok thanks…just run through my mind because of my daughters ex was a nut job too! and now 2 yrs later and my daughter is in a happy relationshipand engaged to be married this person is still trying to contact her! Crazy!!

  354. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 5:30 pm

    Tracey A :
    Thanks Girl! How are you doing today???

    Still hangin’ in there Trace, thanks for askin’ nice person. My Texas blood is working pretty well. And my fridge is fully stocked with my fave new IPA for my admitted little crutch. Cheers!
    So how long do we think this will last? Could we even be done today? I’d drink to that, yes I would. 🙂

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 5:39 pm

      LOL! …fully stocked on IPA! Good Girl!

      Not sure, but Perky can’t possibly keep ALV up there for days on end when Juan pretty much limited himself on cross to just what he wanted to come out. I seriously doubt that the Perkster will let ALV off today. Plus, don’t forget, we have Jury questions as well.

      At this point, Juan got all of his stuff outta the way…so ALV can pretty much get hit by a bus and end this misery for all of us. 😉

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 5:48 pm

      Hey Trace and Anna!!! I just asked myself, is my glass half full or half empty? Neither, just topped it up – Hah!

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 5:52 pm

        I mean really, what is half full, half empty? My glass always needs refilling. *cyber clink* Chrissie. Still laughing at my dogmail. Showed my brother. He died. Thanks

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 6:05 pm

        ~giggle~

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 6:07 pm

        LOL! Yay! Chrissie popped in! 🙂

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 6:09 pm

        I mean, he didn’t really die. He died laughing. Should I loose that word for a while, too? Sometimes worry my humor will be taken wrong, ya know? ack

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 6:14 pm

        Not at all Anna, no-one in their right mind would have a problem with that 🙂

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 6:24 pm

        Thank you cuz I keep forgetting!!

  355. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 5:33 pm

    That comment from Travis had NOTHING to due with JA’s personality. Way to make the huge stretch on that one!

  356. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 5:37 pm

    Ya know I like reading the takes on the re-direct but since I’m unable to watch or listen to it I wish I could get a transcript and read it. Much better way , since afterall, 90% of communication is non-verbal and I got plenty of observations from that; its just that the 10% always has someinteresting things in it.

    • Mckealty
      04/10/2013 at 5:42 pm

      LOL

  357. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 5:40 pm

    I think ALV is doing a remarkable job trying to present a multitude of years of experience, education and expertise. if Kirk Nurmi wants to give Jodie a fighting chance he needs to sit up and at least look interested in what is happening in the courtroom. He looks so disinterested, I wonder how his posture will affect the jury??

  358. PK
    04/10/2013 at 5:41 pm

    I must have missed evidence presented that TA beckoned JA to come to Mesa prior to her arrival on June 4, 200id she call him or even contact him prior to her arrival? Are there phone records?

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:45 pm

      they talked about something?? 3rd/6 44 mins and 18 mins or something like that

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:47 pm

      Myunderstanding 2 calls made,one short one long, I dunno who called who. I always thought she called him , he hung up, One more time, a quickie. Bada Bing Bada Boom. Mesa next stop.

  359. PK
    04/10/2013 at 5:42 pm

    typo June 4, 2008. Did she call him

  360. 04/10/2013 at 5:43 pm

    Laine :
    Ok thanks…just run through my mind because of my daughters ex was a nut job too! and now 2 yrs later and my daughter is in a happy relationshipand engaged to be married this person is still trying to contact her! Crazy!!

    Laine… I got an email from Doofus the other day.. he NEVER stops trying to engage me and always finds a way to try. They just don’t seem to give up. Just make sure she never re-engages No contact EVER again is the only way to treat these types of people. As I’m sure she already realises anyhow.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:45 pm

      No contact EVER again is the only way

      (learned)

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 5:49 pm

      I would like to second or third that. NO Contact is the only way to even try to get these types of people out of your life!

    • Laine
      04/10/2013 at 6:07 pm

      Thanks Syn, she’s a smart cookie (my daughter) doesn’t entertain any contact and has moved away from the area. But I’ll reinforce it to her.

  361. NapaNonnie
    04/10/2013 at 5:47 pm

    Good objection Juanito. Travis did not make a sex tape with WOBO. She secretly recorded him during a conversation instigated by her.

  362. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 5:47 pm

    Here is what I have so far:

    Hypothetical, Obfuscation, Contin@@m ( 🙂 ), Guide Line, Key Note Speaker, Fact, Bias, Unbiased, Stalker, ASPD+P, Jealousy, Liar, Terrorist, Tunnel Vision, Integrity, Veracity, Justice, Secondary Gain, Context, Assessment, Report, Manipulative, Mischaracterize, Corroboration, Evidence, Skank, Equivocate, Orgasm, Hypocrite, Double Standard, Aggression, Impeachment

    …got to be more…shooting for 30 days worth….

    • 04/10/2013 at 5:48 pm

      JIm – Change aspd+p to psychopath simpler! and same thing.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 5:51 pm

        TY, as usual Dahlink 🙂

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:51 pm

        oh lawwwd we aren’t back to the maid’s outfit are we????

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:53 pm

        OOPs wrong place LOL!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 5:55 pm

        I should think so! (considering mine is at the cleaners right now) j/k

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:57 pm

        shoosh!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:55 pm

      well is there a word “continuum’ outside of Science fiction? That might belong. Frankly I thing “mister” Martinez could have some dictionary wiggle room for LaLa certainly.

      • 04/10/2013 at 5:58 pm

        beam me up scottie

      • Laine
        04/10/2013 at 6:14 pm

        I think the Delorean is parked out front of the court waiting to take her back to 1960….Flux capacitor….into the continuum…

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 5:58 pm

      Jim, can’t we turn the @’s into hypnotized faces or something? Or like that swirly black & white thing they use on tv to represent being put into a trance? I wish I had Chrissie’s mad skills. I’d be dangerous!! Not really, just kidding, stop it all day. I love my dog, really!!!!!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 6:03 pm

        Look! just because I have a mac doesn’t mean I know how to use the bastard! 🙂

      • Anna
        04/10/2013 at 6:23 pm

        ROTFLOL!!!!

  363. Schaeffer
    04/10/2013 at 5:49 pm

    ALV should say “Ms. Wilmott, are you pleased with me? Didn’t I do an excellent job of toeing the party line? Did you see, Ms. Wilmott, how I skillfully took everything out of context, twisted it to fit my purposes, and reinterpreted it to fit in with that template l designed? Did you notice that in some cases I just flat out lied, but I grinned while I was doing it, so it’s alright? Ms. Wilmott, didn’t I do an excellent job of talking all around the actual facts of the case, refusing to directly answer any questions, even when admonished by the Judge? How about how much disdain I was able to show the prosecutor, who is an officer of the court? When can I expect my check, Ms. Wilmott?”

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 5:53 pm

      Well-said, Schaeffer!

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 6:04 pm

        BINGO! You nailed it!

    • Trial watcher
      04/10/2013 at 6:10 pm

      You said it all!

    • 04/10/2013 at 7:27 pm

      Spot on Laine. She is no Einstein. In some respects, she is dumb as a box of rocks.

  364. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 5:52 pm

    Veracity is the docs; wasn’t DETAILED Latoiletts? The prosecutor always had things like Details, I mean, what a gal to do? He too organized. He’s got too many facts. I’m just an Xpert in the larger picture.
    YES larger picture? sort of like tunnel vision?

  365. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 5:54 pm

    Which is EXACTLY what Travis tried to do!!! He tried to get away from his stalker!

  366. 04/10/2013 at 5:55 pm

    some unk own woman my arse! as if wobo doesn’t know who it was!!!

  367. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 5:56 pm

    Juan – Objection Your Honor!! I object to Defense Counsels high pitched squealing tone! It’s making my ears bleed!

  368. 04/10/2013 at 5:56 pm

    she knows what an astroglide is but not an email? hmmmmmm interesting.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 5:59 pm

      thanks for that; I needed it.

  369. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 5:58 pm

    Pursuing Mimi Hall??? I think that’s a thinly veiled implication that Travis was stalking Mimi too.

  370. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 5:58 pm

    Good Tracey! I CANNOT and WILLNOT listen to Willnotwinthecase AND LaGas at the time of redirect. Same with Wurmi.wobo; same with perk& the doc. Simply tortuous. Just beyond what one should have to be exposed to.

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 6:01 pm

      LOL! I finally had to take my headphones off. I just can’t stand it. It’s even worse when I’m only listening to audio. Perky’s cadence is horrific to listen to!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/10/2013 at 6:05 pm

        Well some combo of Ma donchais and a few of the siblings should be able to fill us in. A hug in thought!

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 6:58 pm

        Hey Trace, Missed yer!!! Yep, she’s kinda Palinesque…

  371. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 6:00 pm

    mommy dearest is back there making bird cage liners too…..

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:14 pm

      big ones to collect all the bullshit in Jodi’s cell?

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 6:23 pm

        I’m thinking AL is the cookoo bird here…and soon to be retired to a rubber cage when she realizes what she just did to herself…

      • 04/10/2013 at 6:28 pm

        would be nice but not holding my breath on it.

  372. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/10/2013 at 6:02 pm

    aside: loved the CoolCourtLady who was on the radio. I recall her tweet about WillKnot and the Keynoter talkin, and desribed it just like the dialogue from a cooking show. Very funny

  373. PK
    04/10/2013 at 6:03 pm

    LaViolette really is naive even after so many years of pseudo “practice.” A guy will do a three hole wonder who is also a stalker when his little head does the thinking, just as countless men pick up potentially dangerous hookers for SEX thinking with the little head. LV forgets, assuming she ever knew, that guys have two heads to deal with and it is often very conflicting.

    • MMD
      04/10/2013 at 6:10 pm

      LOL but true

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 6:13 pm

      …going in an envelope all by itself to AL…. this could provide a real break thru for her

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 6:31 pm

      Hopefully the guys on the jury think like you and see how condescending and gender-biased she is.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 6:34 pm

      well I’m abstaining from this strain of thought.

  374. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 6:09 pm

    Chrissie A :
    ~giggle~

    ~giggle backatcha~

  375. Crystal Harris
    04/10/2013 at 6:12 pm

    Alyce LaViolette’s book: “It Could Happen to Anyone (except Travis Alexander): Why Bettered Women Stay (but men never do).”
    Does ALV really not see the inconsistently in her entire way of thinking about DV where it pertains to Travis? She says over and over that women continue contact and don’t document their fear. But Travis Alexander’s continued contact with Jodi is just not possibly consistent with other DV victims?
    Ughhhh! She’s such a HACK!

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 6:33 pm

      Yeah because don’t you know that stalking and domestic violence are two distinct behaviors according to her and people stay when there’s DV but not when there’s stalking?

  376. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 6:13 pm

    She spoke for DAYS about how abused women STAY with their abuser so why isn’t it the same with men who stay with their abusers for whatever reason?????

    I pray that the computer expert has found some very revealing things on JA’s supposedly ruined hard drive, laptop and phone(s) that reveal more of the stalking.

    Miss Einstein f***ed up by telling paul Stern & Darryl the TRUTH that she was leaving for trip to Mesa!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 6:19 pm

      I think it’s coming – the rebuttal case should be the knockout punch here. I think we will see the expert show that TA was logged into his email, space face, etc, from places he was never at; but JA was….

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 6:35 pm

        Can’t wait for the rebuttal!

  377. 04/10/2013 at 6:15 pm

    Im so over alyce she is so off target it’s not even worth dissecting this crapola anymore

  378. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 6:15 pm

    Can’t someone get hodi a nice warm blankie and a cup of hot chocolate with whipped cream and a sprinkle of cinnamon? She looks like she needs an esteem booster over there……JUST KIDDING. My empathy string was somehow just plucked and that bothers me a great deal as a mother of two. Just sayin. Help me.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 6:42 pm

      No no no empathy deserved! She’s 2 seconds away from a smirk and a giggle. She has no remorse, absolutely none. She’s thrown everyone under the bus. She tried to get the police to suspect Travis’ roommate. If she could shed be sipping hot chocolate while someone else was rotting behind bars serving time for her crime.

  379. Mckealty
    04/10/2013 at 6:18 pm

    NancyB :
    She spoke for DAYS about how abused women STAY with their abuser so why isn’t it the same with men who stay with their abusers for whatever reason?????
    I pray that the computer expert has found some very revealing things on JA’s supposedly ruined hard drive, laptop and phone(s) that reveal more of the stalking.
    Miss Einstein f***ed up by telling paul Stern & Darryl the TRUTH that she was leaving for trip to Mesa!

    Men stay because it’s the single most under-reported crime in America. Female on male abuse.

    The courts and our government have been bombarded for nearly 20 years by the ALVs of the world.

    ALV is the walking, talking embodiment of the gender bias in our court system.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 6:42 pm

      Hey right on! MANY men are conditioned to NEVER hit a woman so they don’t fight back. I remember years ago, my friend tolm me that this other guy had his jaw broken by his wife! Now, this is decades ago , and we’re all so enlightened now etc etc, but at that time, we each roared laughing at it. For us, if any woman had ever hit either of us, we’d have hit them right back. Many people aren’t equally situated. That is a real; and present danger. But no one is helped by this cracker barrel who keeps all the info in her barrel head.

  380. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 6:18 pm

    And we’re back to “tirades”…great, just GREAT! 😦

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 6:20 pm

      tirade added….

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 6:22 pm

        TY Jim!

  381. 04/10/2013 at 6:19 pm

    hahha Jodi sits there thinking… “I am a sociopath you just don’t knowit cos your a weak gullible normal’ *Cue demonic laughter*

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 6:45 pm

      Funny how she sits upright on her chair with an engaged look on her face while Wilmott is questioning ALV. What happened to her sketching?

      • 04/10/2013 at 6:47 pm

        maybe she finished her Flores one

  382. Trial watcher
    04/10/2013 at 6:20 pm

    It’s dam odd how AL can answer any/all of Wily’s questions with a simple yes or no!
    She’s so obviously biased that by now the jury has her # and she’s toasted like a marshmallow over a campfire, burnt black!!!

  383. Anna
    04/10/2013 at 6:20 pm

    Okay, I’m starting a new club; one that I would actually become a member of if it was even remotely normal. That is, “The Right to Anger Society.” Righteous indignation is such a flippin’ wimp!
    So, what’s for dinner guys?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 6:48 pm

      some chips and guacomole and a good beer. Some fried chicken. Ribs barbecued. Sushi, lox and bagels.Hearty potato salad. Red and White wines,. small portions of salady things,
      A bench where one can stand and declaim or be placed on and be spanked.Some bourbon.. Some music.
      Fuk anyone who wants a theme other than that. Screw ’em.

      • 04/10/2013 at 7:07 pm

        RIR….U owe me a new laptop…..I’ve snorted all sorts over my keyboard…bcuz of your comments!!! And I’ve shorted the darn thing out!! Haha! Ur comments should come with a warning…’Gaffaw with your mouth full of food at your own risk ahead:

  384. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 6:21 pm

    Wild About Trial

    “Wild notices very little note taking but much head scratching and stretching from the jurors”

    Good! They’ve tuned out just like we have.

  385. 04/10/2013 at 6:22 pm

    Miss Einstein f***ed up by telling paul Stern & Darryl the TRUTH that she was leaving for trip to Mesa!

    McKealty and she told lala as well…

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/10/2013 at 6:51 pm

      help out a chicken:

      did LaLa say that wobo told her that she shot him in a closet? Did she believe her?
      did others beside Darryl testfy -through Laviolence-that they heard she was going to Mesa?

      TY in advance.

      • 04/10/2013 at 6:52 pm

        yes!!! she said she shot him in the closet.. that’s waht she said Jodi said.

      • 04/10/2013 at 6:56 pm

        someone said Paul Stern.. that I don’t know but Daryl and lala were told by Jodi far as I know.

  386. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 6:23 pm

    I listened to Dr Horn’s testimony again last night when I couldn’t sleep. His testimony on direct and even MORE so on cross with JW make it crystal clear that if he were shot 1st he would immediately be incapacitated – unconscious – in neurogenic shock. It would be impossible for any part of JA’s version to have occurred. The talking head atty’s that say they believe this version of GSW 1st are either complete idiots or else they have never personally HEARD with their own ears Dr Horn’s testimony.

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:26 pm

      the shell case is enough anyhow… let alone Dr Horn’s testimony on top of it. Well to a normally thinking person.

  387. truejustice
    04/10/2013 at 6:25 pm

    the reaction is what she looks like … how about the over the top reaction of murder

    • 04/10/2013 at 6:27 pm

      nothing to see there. Look the other way.

  388. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 6:29 pm

    Anna :
    So, what’s for dinner guys?

    Dinner???? I haven’t eaten since I saw that pic of Wurmi posted yesterday. It’ll likely be another week or so before I can hold anything down!!! 😀

    • njrose
      04/10/2013 at 6:40 pm

      Tracey, that was priceless, LOL !

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 6:45 pm

        Heehee!

    • Anna
      04/10/2013 at 6:41 pm

      Well, at least alcohol DOES contain calories. 🙂 lol Can’t I temp you with a little chicken fried? Peanuts? Popcorn? EAT! (she tells herself, who really is having an issue and that’s prob why she keeps bringing up food stuffs that might appeal to her clogged hunger trigger, or whatever the hell you call it)

      And I don’t think I’ve said this before, but I’m going to now. Everyone in this land deserves representation at trial. Constitutional. Even the lowest of the low. Nurmi is doing a job that not many people want, and obviously a lot of you disrespect. I get it. But someone has to be there for these people, and especially for those charged with those types of crimes who are viable human beings, and maybe were even wrongfully charged. Okay, sorry but that’s just the way I see this.