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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Forty-Five

04/10/2013

Yesterday was quite the circus!  Wondering what mood Ms. LaViolette is in today.  She sure took a beating and doubt she’s looking forward to more of the same from Juan!

Accckkkk…they are all in chambers!

Well, of course we can’t start on time!  Judge takes the bench at 10:05.

Screen shot 2013-04-10 at 1.08.19 PMLaViolette on the stand.

Jury called at 10:07.

Yesterday we were talking about Mr. Alexander was fearful of the defendant being a stalker.  He was not fearful, they were laughing.

You can tell from a text message they were laughing?  There was ha, ha, ha.

Juan asks the Judge if he can ask the question they talked about!

Willmott, Nurmi and LaViolette leave the courtroom…

10:12 am, 3 sidebars already this morning.  Jury sent out for 5 minutes.

Isn’t it true Mr. Alexander was extremely afraid of Ms. Arias because of her stalking behavior? Yes.

Juan puts up her continuum of aggression.

So we’re looking at stalking on the chart; a form of terrorism?  You are not using the chart correctly.

Juan just made a huge score on Jodi being the abuser.

Now ALV says Travis was not afraid…she did a 360.

Juan asks to approach…sidebar…

The email I just showed you indicates Mr. Alexander was extremely afraid?  Yes.

You don’t know if Mr. Alexander was telling the truth?  I have to look at the big picture.

Juan asks to approach again…sidebar.

Boy, things sure are testy here today!

After the relationship between the defendant and Mr. Alexander ended, the defendant moved to Mesa?  Yes.

Isn’t that an indication of the beginning of stalking?  No.

She went to Mr. Alexander’s house when Mr. Alexander was have a romantic moment with another woman?  Yes.

And didn’t she look in the windows at him?  She left immediately.

She arrived uninvited?  Correct.

She was there long enough to see the woman re-hooking her bra?  Correct.

Isn’t that an indication of stalking behavior?  No.

You took the defendant’s journals to be true?  What part do you mean?

This is explosive!

Juan is chewing her up and spitting her out!

Just because Mr. Alexander is talking to other women doesn’t mean he was bad?  There was flirtation.

So he was a bad guy?  No.

Jodi is taking glee out of ALV bitchiness.Screen shot 2013-04-10 at 1.44.51 PM

August 26, 2007 when the defendant was looking in the window?  Correct.

The defendant went over to Mr. Alexander’s the next day to talk to him about the event?  Correct.

Doesn’t that appear to be stalking behavior?  No, not when I look at the big picture.

It was immediately after the stories began about physical abuse?  No, it was in October.

What was the incident?  October, 2007, he threw her to the ground and wouldn’t let her leave.

The incident occurred after the August 2007 incident?   Correct.

She sought no medical treatment? Correct.

You say you believe the defendant?  Yes.

Mr. Alexander was abusive?  Yes, based on what men in my group would describe as abuse.

You don’t know what every man in your group would think do you?  Based on what I know of them, I do.

The next supposed violence by Mr. Alexander was when?  January 2008.

Were you aware that Mr. Alexander told Mr. Freeman he needed for Jodi to leave?  I wasn’t privy to testimony.

The pedophilia incident came up after January 2008?  Yes.

An untrue statement about pedophilia and threatening to expose someone, isn’t that stalking behavior?  That isn’t what stalking is.

Mr. Alexander telling the defendant to get away from him and move?  I don’t see that as a response to stalking behavior.

Objection…sidebar…ALV asks for a potty break…jury sent out for 10 minutes…

You indicated there was no indication because Mr. Alexander didn’t take corrective action?  The behavior doesn’t show that.  He didn’t call police or get a protective order.

She didn’t tell anybody about the pedophilia?  She told Mr. McCartney about it.

Your continuum shows stalking and under that is family of origin?  Yes.

And the defendant did have family of origin issues?

Objection…sidebar…

Awww geez, poor Sam is choking back tears.

The defendant’s father had negative actions towards the defendant?  Yes.

What were those issues?  The father was mean and made sexually inappropriate remarks, pushed her into furniture and knocked her out.

We’re into the whole pedo stuff and whether it was on computer or photos and how Jodi’s journal never even mentions it.

ALV says that’s because Jodi didn’t write negative about Mr. Alexander.

You had nothing to corroborate the pedo other than the defendant’s word as being truthful?  Yes.

You believe it even though there is no report?  There were so much information, I saw her broken finger, I heard the sex tape.  I believe there was domestic violence.

Is there any indication of Jan 21, 2008 that Mr. Alexander was involved in child pornography?  He talked about porking a little girl.  The Spiderman underwear.

Are you aware that Mr. Alexander was taken with Cameron Diaz?  No.

Are you aware that Cameron Diaz wore Spiderman underwear in the Charlie’s Angels movie?  No.

You chose to talk the defendant’s word?  Yes.

Mr. Alexander talks about being a dildo with a heartbeat?  Yes, but I didn’t see that anywhere else.  He is ranting, he’s angry.

Isn’t that indicative of sexual abuse?  I didn’t see it that way.

Juan asks to approach…sidebar…

Stalking and terrorism go together?  Correct.

So being done over a period of time, its terrorism?  There are other things involved.

Noon recess…

LaViolette Vichychoisse being served in the cafeteria today!

Court resumes at 1:30….omg!!!!

La Violette back.

Jury called 1:31!!!  I’m so excited!

You spoke to the defendant about her June 4 killing of Mr. Alexander?  Correct.

She told you she dropped the camera and he came after her?  Correct.

She told you about grabbing the unloaded gun?  Correct.

She told you when she pulled the trigger; they were both in the closet?  I believe so.

Would you like to hear your statement?  Sure.

Juan plays the tape and ALV says Jodi told her they were both in the closet when she pulled the trigger.

Big lie!

She also told you about the knife?  Correct.

It was used after the sexual encounter?  Before, I think.

Juan shows her a copy of her notes.  In that it says the knife was used to cut the ropes after he did oral sex?  He cut the rope after they had sex.

It was left on the nightstand, correct?  I’m not sure where it was.

Again Juan shows her a copy of her notes.

She told you the knife was left on the nightstand?  Yes.

ALV has given up a lot of stuff when trapped, but man, is she ever sticking to her assessment!

Oh crap…Willmott up!

Battered women syndrome is not in the DSM 4?  Yes.

Is it just made up?  No.  Explanation for crimes of passion.

Objection…sidebar…

No way Willmott can rehabilitate dear Aylce!

Pretty much, Willmott is just letting ALV babble on and on and on.  Trying to let her re-engage with the jury. She’ll go on and on…  But, the jury heard her cross.

Lock and load you tin foil hats, barf bags, and hip-waders!

I’ve shut down, lol!

Aylce says the only way to make an assessment is to look at a whole picture, not just an incident.

Your honor, begging…pls stop this carp, now!

SNORT! WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

I heard Juan requested a handy man come and make a bed under his desk until juror questions start. #JodiArias

Jodi driving 90 miles to confront Bianca shows Ms. Arias was doing the adult thing, not jealous behavior.

What is a stalker?  They can gaslight, they can follow a person, and they can contact the person numerous times.

Daffynition, Ms. AVL!  Isn’t that what Jodi did, exactly???

Willmott’s voice is 2 octaves higher today and giving me a headache!

Hell hath no fury like a woman having to listen to this BS!

Boy, Willmott and ALV must have been up cramming all night.

I find it interesting that ALV can answer Willmott in yes, no fashion, but she can’t with Juan or the Judge!

WTH?  Nurmi asks to approach.

Afternoon recess called….

Did you answer questions about Ms. Arias stalking?  Yes.

There was repeated contact after she moved to Mesa?  Yes, they both contacted each other.

Back to the French maid outfit.

Did Travis send this to Ms. Arias?  Yes.

Oh BS, she took his passwords and prolly sent it to herself posing as him!!!!

Objection…sidebar…

Judge now asks if any of the jury heard the sidebar???  No idea what that was!

I find it interesting that ALV can answer Willmott in yes, no fashion, but she can’t with Juan or the Judge!

I have so shut down on Willmott’s re cross!

Also interesting that she told Juan you can’t just take ‘a’ message and create an opinion, ya have to look at the whole picture, yet with Willmott, looking at a single message allowed her to create an opinion!

ALV say Travis was “over the top” with his angry reaction to whatever JA did or said.  She doesn’t know the whole friggin story!

AVL repeatedly has said she doesn’t know or understand computers, but seems to know a whole bunch of ‘puter lingo!

You saw she had the broken finger?

Objection…which hand?

OMG, Gidget looks at Jodi and asks left hand, and Jodi nods yes!!!!  The freakin attorney doesn’t know which hand after all this time???

WTF?

OMG!  ALV says Travis never called her a slut, bitch, and a 3-hole wonder in her journal, but did in text messages!

Willmott asks to approach and jury told to take a 10 minute break!

Don’t care what anybody says…there are definite hand signals between Willmott and ALV!  Alyce rubbed her blue watch face to Willmott signaling a break.

You were asked if you believed Ms. Arias?  Yes.

And did you?  I wouldn’t have taken the case.

Objection…sidebar…

Did you ever feel a need to withdraw from this case?  No.

Why did you apologize Ms. Arias when you met?  Because I read her journals and felt badly about invading her privacy.  I don’t usually have that much info from clients that early.

Did you feel biased towards her?   No.

Thunder and lightning and major downpour happening!  May have to shut down.

Judge calls it a day at 4:29 and tells jury to be back at 10:30!

Sorry I tuned out so much of the afternoon, but when I started bleeding from my eyes, I couldn’t help it!

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  1. 04/10/2013 at 7:51 pm

    Donchais Sorry I tuned out so much of the afternoon, but when I started bleeding from my eyes, I couldn’t help it!

    You are not alone oh great one!

    Despite that nice wrap up! way better than mere mortals could have done!!! 🙂

    • Regina
      04/10/2013 at 8:31 pm

      Dunchais, why the judge is letting this b**tch disrespect Martinez the way she did. My understanding is that reason enough for consider LaViotina a hostile witness and impeach her. Why, I am asking this question over and over and I am not getting any answer. I wish there was another channel besides HLN to watch because my stomach cannot take anymore of these people fom HLN. I feel or you having to listen Wilcott’s voice. Jesus, just take me!

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 8:35 pm

        Stephens and Martinez have worked together for years. Juan doesn’t sweat this little stuff because it only opens more doors for him. If he was really upset, he and the Judge would pounce. They aren’t making a mountain out of a molehill! The defense is doing it for them!

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:15 pm

        HLN sucks — you gotta watch it online. 😉

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 8:39 pm

      Thanks Donchais, wonderful recap as per usual, I also had to tune out WillNot, hopefully she won’t take up all morning, or even worse, all day tomorrow, going over and over the same bs! Let’s get to the juror questions, hopefully, the good ones that we’ve heard in the past weren’t coming from juror #5 😉

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:52 pm

      Nice to know Donchais, thankyou for that background very helpful

  2. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 7:51 pm

    I can’t believe that ALV keeps talking about the “big picture” yet that big picture so obviously doesn’t include the murder! I am more enraged about this witness than I felt about anyone else other than Jodi herself.

    • 04/10/2013 at 7:56 pm

      as per fog, time continuum and historical significance…. it rolls in……………… it rolls out……. as does the perimeters of the ‘big picture”.

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 8:06 pm

        Yes, so true!

  3. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 7:55 pm

    Don’t you think her admission that Jodi told her the knife was left on the nightstand and that when the gunshot occurred Jodi and Travis were both in the closet are huge wins for the prosecution?

    • NancyB
      04/10/2013 at 8:51 pm

      Yes Lisa !!!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:55 pm

      I cannot believe she said without batting an eyelid wobo said she shot him in the closet. sheesh did she not look at the photographs.. I think not.. she said she did but I don’t think she did. That closet was pristine nobody.. nobody was shot in there… does that not give her pause???? Apparently not!

      … and that’s not even going near the knife suddenly being on the nightstand!

  4. MMD
    04/10/2013 at 7:59 pm

    Thank you donchais – I couldn’t take it one more minute!!!! You certainly are a better woman than I am. And now to hear that the Defense may have another witness to call has totally put me over the edge.

    My heart breaks for the Alexander family who have to listen to this pathetic excuse for an expert. A complete man hater. I truly hope it was worth it ALV cause you have abused so many while on the stand.

    Thanks again Donchais. Over and gone until tomorrow.

    ******waves****** and {{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}} to all

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:05 pm

      byeeeeeee MMD

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 8:08 pm

      What?! Another defense witness? Noooooo!

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 8:10 pm

        Heard, can’t confirm…this witness is about motions filed not an actual trial witness!

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 8:40 pm

      Nitey Nite MMD – stay cozy ~hugs~

  5. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 8:01 pm

    Wow! Donchais… You saw she had the broken finger?

    Objection…which hand?

    OMG, Gidget looks at Jodi and asks left hand, and Jodi nods yes!!!! The freakin attorney doesn’t know which hand after all this time???

    I missed that! UNBELIEVABLE!!! That is shocking on so many levels.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 8:05 pm

      Very shocking! Hope the jury noticed that.

    • donchais
      04/10/2013 at 8:06 pm

      ayuh!

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:06 pm

      really you missed it? you must have been looking away perky stopped turned asked Jodi.. then turned back to LaLa

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 8:51 pm

        I pretty much tuned out when the Perkster was up. I was listening through headphones but I just couldn’t take her shrill squealing any more.

        I thought my laptop speakers sucked. They actually did me a favor instead.

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:48 pm

        understandabel!!!!

  6. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 8:04 pm

    I think Wilmott is providing lots for recross of ALV. for one: Wilmott trying to equate a lack of a journal report of abuse or the alleged pedophilia incident with a lack of much more mundane details in the journal. So Jodi not reporting what she ate for lunch is the same as not reporting these traumatic events? Is that what she’s actually saying? How moronic! Jodi wrote “nothing noteworthy to report” the key word being “noteworthy”!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 11:05 pm

      Not sure there will be a re-cross – that’s the court’s call because they allow questions from the jury (which are likely to be bell ringers)…

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 12:57 am

        You’re right. They have the jury questions and then he can cross her on her answers. I just felt like everything Wilmott said today after Juan finished was so ludicrous I wanted him to get another chance to refute it all.

  7. 04/10/2013 at 8:04 pm

    LOL @:

    JustMe
    Jodi is the poster child for the “Law of Fatal Attraction” #jodiarias #wildabouttrial

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 8:31 pm

      Lol

    • Nicole
      04/10/2013 at 10:18 pm

      That is PERFECT!!!

  8. Trial watcher
    04/10/2013 at 8:04 pm

    There R Soooooo many inconsistencies with Samuels and AL that the defense has no
    chance of redeeming these two experts.
    This has become “The Arizona State Reality Show” and I soooo wish they would get to the obvious verdict. GUILTY!!
    Maybe then the Alexander family could go home and try and get on with their lives and be allowed to truly grieve for Travis and put him to rest with the justice he deserves!

    • donchais
      04/10/2013 at 8:08 pm

      Well said and you are back in moderation…What to do, what to do!

  9. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 8:05 pm

    (from) Family of Law (to) me: Jim (from the previous thread):
    (the State is the one that seized them) The Defense wants them back so they can see what their little girl has been up to….

    Thanks Jim- so glad you’re here:). Here’s hoping JA penned further evidence that JM can use to prove further what we ALL already know. Can the State use these “jail journal” entries in the trial?

    Yes, but the State would have to use her (JA) to “bring” it into evidence – the motions they would be a flying… But, they might find something in there that provides a direct link to someone else that JM could put on the stand during his rebuttal case….

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 8:12 pm

      What I’d like to see as a (new) JA journal entry: “Ha! I’m still winning! All this crap they dug up on me, but they still don’t have the gun or the knife! Glad I snuck out of Ryan’s bed and hid them and my clothes in his attic!”

      and/or

      Boy! I sure have done a good job of faking out these shrinks!

      • Family of Law
        04/10/2013 at 8:20 pm

        Ooh, yes! And how about: Dear Diary, I had a good day today:) I managed to tell my lies, and trash Travis- winning!, (giggle, giggle!) I think the jury thinks I’m a hottie biscotti! I did lots of nice drawings in court today, today was an A+ day!”

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 10:02 pm

        Another good one: Matt has really hosed this deal up – I’d like to stab him in the heart too!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 8:34 am

        Hahahaha great.

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 8:16 pm

      Thanks Jim- I can only imagine the motions flying- (they file motions for mistrial based on a pen toss by Juan! Lol)

  10. geri5699
    04/10/2013 at 8:08 pm

    Liked the comment from Jim in #966 on previous page. .I can hardly wait for this all to come out..I always felt that there is something wrong with the sex call– We are all so lucky to have so many great lawyers discussing on this blog..

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:27 pm

      geri5699 :
      Liked the comment from Jim in #966 on previous page. .I can hardly wait for this all to come out..I always felt that there is something wrong with the sex call– We are all so lucky to have so many great lawyers discussing on this blog..

      JIM – I Went back to look for this twice.. cant find what this is referncing.. What did you say about the sex tapes?

      • NancyB
        04/10/2013 at 8:58 pm

        Syn – he answered my question:

        Me: She spoke for DAYS about how abused women STAY with their abuser so why isn’t it the same with men who stay with their abusers for whatever reason?????

        I pray that the computer expert has found some very revealing things on JA’s supposedly ruined hard drive, laptop and phone(s) that reveal more of the stalking.

        Miss Einstein f***ed up by telling paul Stern & Darryl the TRUTH that she was leaving for trip to Mesa!

        Jim
        04/10/2013 at 6:19 pm | #968
        Reply | Quote

        I think it’s coming – the rebuttal case should be the knockout punch here. I think we will see the expert show that TA was logged into his email, space face, etc, from places he was never at; but JA was….

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:35 pm

        thanks NancyB… hope you aren’t mad at me for my terrible mistake!!

  11. 04/10/2013 at 8:18 pm

    I heard from a reliable source that Dopey is coming forward as the defense team’s final witness. Apparently, Grumpy’s continual abuse of Snow Job White and the dwarfs terrorized their family. Grumpy’s pissed.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 8:27 pm

      From HLN’s blog: 6:22 p.m. ET: When Alexander accidentally texts a message for someone to Arias, he calls it “pulling a Jodi.” LaViolette says it seems to have happened before in the past. LaViolette says the accidental text message Arias sent to Alexander (mentioned earlier) doesn’t seem to have been sent intentionally in an effort to incite Alexander’s wrath.
      How can she say Jodi didn’t intentionally send Travis that email when his “pulling a Jodi” comment clearly shows she had a pattern of doing that? Oh, I forgot, what he says isn’t part of the “big picture” she’s looking at.

      • 04/10/2013 at 8:36 pm

        A: because she is interpretting it *wipes hands circularly* in the global context.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 8:30 pm

      Lol!

      • NancyB
        04/10/2013 at 9:00 pm

        Those gestures of hers drive me nuts nuts nuts! I can’t get them out of my head.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 8:37 am

      Its spreading. Women are writing “help” in the sand for helicopters to find them, because of this!

  12. pmoz
    04/10/2013 at 8:22 pm

    Just curious why is Esteban Flores sitting next to Juan Martinez? BTW I love your blog, great job.

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 8:29 pm

      Detective Flores has been sitting next to Martinez throughout the trial. Not sure why exactly myself.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 8:29 pm

      It’s a formality that’s part of the bill of rights – the Defendant has the right to face her accuser – Flores is the “Accuser”

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:30 pm

      asked yesterday.. answer was.. because he is the accuser and wobo has the right to face her accuser.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 8:38 pm

        Boy ya just gotta know the next time Flores rolls up on a whacked out murder scene, he’s gonna be like “Man, I don’t know if I can stand another one of these!”

      • 04/10/2013 at 8:39 pm

        Jim did you see my Question 2 u upstairs?

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 8:42 pm

        I think it’s actually 970…I’ll go get it…

    • donchais
      04/10/2013 at 8:37 pm

      In many courts the lead detective sits at the pros table to assist.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 9:22 am

        Precisely.

        The People of the State of Arizona are the “accusers”, if you will. The case CAPTION is: The State of Arizona vs. Jodi Ann Arias.
        The accuser is the State (i.e. the People of the State) and Juan Martinez is the officer of the court who is representing the State of Arizona. Thus, the State, via the proscutor’s office, is the “accuser”.

        The right to confront one’s accuser is a constitutional right, guaranteed by the 6th amendment.
        It does not mean you have the right to focus your frying-pan-eyes on someone in the courtroom.
        It means you have the right to confront the actual witnesses against you in court. It means you have the right to haveyour lawyers cross-examine and test thecredibility and veracity of said witnesses.
        Detective Flores has played a key, integral part of the case from dayone, throughout the investigation, and clearly as a witness at trial.

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 10:22 am

        I was just providing an easy way to context it – if you are summoned to court on a traffic offense, and the “Accuser” is not present, the case will be continued, or dismissed…Flores’ investigation of this crime is central to the State’s case – He “Accused” JA of murdering TA… I’m not trying to parse words or split legal hairs….

  13. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 8:23 pm

    Let’s just hope I’m right…

  14. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 8:23 pm

    BTW Donchais…I just love the picture you used of ALV in your recap. I’m guessing that was NOT an accident but rather actually carefully chosen. If so, well done! 😉

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 8:28 pm

      Snort, SNORT! Good eye Tracey! I had to go upstairs and look again- hysterical pic (and accurate depiction!)

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 8:41 pm

        That was the first thing I noticed when I started reading the recap. I had to take a minute because I was laughing so hard.

    • donchais
      04/10/2013 at 8:37 pm

      uhh, ummm, errr, ya think! 🙂

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 8:40 pm

        I knew it! Well DONE, Girl! ****clapping**** 😀

  15. Family of Law
    04/10/2013 at 8:26 pm

    Donchais, Week done today, as usual! No worries about “tuning out”, I could never have hung in there today as well as you! Once Miss Perky took over, I ditched out- I didn’t want to risk a stroke, or at the very least, nausea.
    Question: When do you think we’ll get juror questions?

    • Family of Law
      04/10/2013 at 8:29 pm

      Argh! *Well done today….

    • Anonymous
      04/11/2013 at 10:15 am

      As soon as Gidget got up there I completely tuned out. I don’t know how Donchsis was able to sit threw that perky Anoying voice. The BS from AL was sickening. Great job Donchsis!!! Don’t know how you do it. I’m steaming the trail and I hope I don’t have to purchase another one after the trial. I wanted to throw it to ye floor many times. And I’m slow to anger. This trail has me emotionally unstable!!!

  16. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 8:29 pm

    You are the greatest that you can re-cap the defense’s tripe. Question – if anyone can help me. Why oh why was the defense allowed to stop court in the middle of ALV’s testimony on cross and go confer with the defense???? This is the 2nd time during this trial that this has happened. I’ve never seen anything like it. Do any of you have any idea what the heck that was about???

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:32 pm

      I want to know tooooooooooo

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 8:33 pm

      Could be to keep her from saying some things, either by ruling, or by stipulation, that they don’t want her to disclose in front of the jury…

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 10:14 pm

        Remember when JA said “his closet is bigger than the cell I live in…” The jury didn’t “know” JA was in custody – she (mistakingly) brought it own her own – same thing… AL displayed a tendency to ramble on, and I think there was a danger of her making a similar mistake…

  17. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 8:32 pm

    2nd Question – On the court site where the motions are recorded what in the world was the notation about seizing Jodi’s journals from her jail cell on April 1st??? I thought they were part of the trial’s evidence and exhibits???

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 8:36 pm

      Their little fair-haired girl has been busy making MORE of them…. 🙂 and that genius BFF of her’s didn’t think about having JA leave them with her at the end of every day…..

  18. 04/10/2013 at 8:33 pm

    Jimbo answered this.. He says the prosecution seized them now the defense wants a look at em

  19. pmoz
    04/10/2013 at 8:36 pm

    ALV looks spent, poor thing she probably regrets taking this case, it cant be good for her career. JM has done a fabulous job tearing her down.

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:46 pm

      There are moments that I kinda, sorta feel sorry for her too, albeit BRIEF moments. She knew she was coming to the defense of someone capable of committing a brutally heinous crime. Wouldn’t you think she would see the disconnect between JA’s fake sweetness and that bloody war scene she single handedly left behind?

      Plus, so many people felt a bad, weird vibe just meeting JA for the first time. ALV spent 44 hours with her. Not very discerning for an expert. I’m actually surprised at her lack of perception.

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 8:51 pm

        ‘specially after 11 experts refused to take the case! And far more expert than ALV will ever be!

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:43 pm

        Her seemingly total lack of perception and perspective is what to me spells deliberate. Nobody with that much experience in these matters could overlook what she has unless it’s a choice to turned a blind eye.

        As soon as the preponderance of evidence weighed in that direction I stopped feeling sorry for her. For me that was way before cross started.

  20. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 8:37 pm

    I just heard on Nancy Grace (I know, I know) that the added defense witness might be the technician that authenticated the audio on the sex tapes from May 10. Take it for what you will, just reporting what was said.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:44 pm

      pfft “I know I know”…. but you keep going back for more donchya!!! 😀

      • Tracey A
        04/10/2013 at 10:13 pm

        I usually have it going in the background after trial ends. Since HLN takes so many commercial breaks and is always so far behind, I find things I missed. For instance, right now I’m trying to get to the part that Donchais pointed out about the “bent” finger and JW looking back at JA. That’s just astounding to me.

        Plus the BF gets home and has gotten into the recaps.

        Take that Smarty Pants! 😀

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:17 pm

        oh you will see it. it’s part of the trial itself not in the background or anything. It’s kind of bizaree like she turns to chat with a friend almost forgetting she’s in court.

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:20 pm

        yeah yeah… familiar with the saying…” me thinks she doth protest too much??” Huh??? Miss M&M pants!

  21. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 8:42 pm

    Jim – Thanks soooo much! You are a wealth of knowledge and then some.

    Hey, Crystal Harris, Hope you see this. Question for you. When your ex husband the felon was court ordered to attend those worthless DV Anger Management Group classes were you responsible for paying for all of those and the court costs and fines due to the fact that you made so much more $$$ than he did? If so, that seems patently unfair.

    • Commerce1
      04/10/2013 at 10:39 pm

      The person convicted of domestic violence is responsible for the fees regardless of income. It’s part of the punishment. My ex had to attend weekly sessions for 6 months after he was convicted of domestic violence against me. He paid for every one.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 12:50 am

      At that time (1998) we both worked and the issue of who paid didn’t become relevant cuz we didn’t end up divorcing.

  22. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 8:42 pm

    Stone Cold Killer:

    • NancyB
      04/10/2013 at 8:48 pm

      Chrissie – another LOL one from you!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 8:54 pm

      LOL! You never disappoint Chrissie! 🙂

    • 04/10/2013 at 8:56 pm

      This is fabulous Chrissie! You r so talented….so creative. It is such an added bonus when you submit your works of art.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:01 pm

      This is amazing….. the graphics… the stone, the looking glass, the concept.. the detail…. absolutely inspired! Cannot praise you enough Chrissie!

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 9:14 pm

        Tx guys, I was peeved and tired of Alyce, then add WillNot to the mix, it was all a bit much for me today as they seem to think that DV is a joke. But methinks the joke is on them 😉
        Looking forward to some juror questions, hopefully sooner than later 😛

  23. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 8:44 pm

    Syntara :
    Jim did you see my Question 2 u upstairs?

    I think it’s coming – the rebuttal case should be the knockout punch here. I think we will see the expert show that TA was logged into his email, space face, etc, from places he was never at; but JA was….

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:02 pm

      ahhh ok thought it was something about you finding a dodgy aspect of the taped phone sex! silly me! I agree with this.. I am pretty sure that is why the computer forensic guy has been added to the rebuttal list. thanks for finding it 🙂

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 9:07 pm

        no problem Syn – I’ll see ya yesterday! 🙂 I’m going to call it a day. I enjoyed it!

  24. Regina
    04/10/2013 at 8:45 pm

    Donchais, I posted this question and ended up wrong place. As NancyB I am trying to understand why the defense is allowed to do what they want and when they want. My question before was:
    “Dunchais, why the judge is letting this b**tch disrespect Martinez the way she did. My understanding is that reason enough for consider LaViotina a hostile witness and impeach her. Why, I am asking this question over and over and I am not getting any answer. I wish there was another channel besides HLN to watch because my stomach cannot take anymore of these people fom HLN. I feel or you having to listen Wilcott’s voice. Jesus, just take me!

    I hope goes in the right place now and I can get some “big picture”

    • donchais
      04/10/2013 at 8:48 pm

      Stephens and Martinez have worked together for years. Juan doesn’t sweat this little stuff because it only opens more doors for him. If he was really upset, he and the Judge would pounce. They aren’t making a mountain out of a molehill! The defense is doing it for them!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 8:52 pm

      Hi Regina – during the time she was on cross-examination, should would be regarded as “hostile”. As for “impeachment” – that’s the jury’s call, and it sure looks like Juan has led them straight to that thought. As far as the Defense being able to “do what they want, when they want”, because the possible punishment includes death, they are being given what is commonly referred to as “latitude” – alot of it, imo…

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 8:57 pm

        Yup, yup and yup!

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:07 pm

        ok……love this reply…. but now enquiring minds must know more!!!!

        Jim… re impeachment brief explanation how it works and how the jury decides? please 😀

      • 04/11/2013 at 10:27 am

        Thank you for your insight….the DT’s “latitude” is laughable.

  25. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 8:46 pm

    There is an open letter to SAGE Publications – ALV’s publisher. There are 24 comments. Please, everyone that can, go post a comment to them.

    http://www.amazon.com/Open-Letter-SAGE-Publications-Inc-/forum/FxKEIETAAQ4S4L/Tx5Y6QTTCR16O6/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=1452277745

    • Lisa M
      04/10/2013 at 9:27 pm

      I just did!

  26. pmoz
    04/10/2013 at 8:50 pm

    Regina I think the answer was #3.

  27. Regina
    04/10/2013 at 8:50 pm

    Sorry I just saw the response, Donchais, you are the greatest. Thank you vmuch

  28. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 8:53 pm

    Did you all hear thst “Clark Rockefeller”
    was convicted today of first degree murder of a crime comitted on the 1980s? Even with “no witnesses, no physical evidence and no motive to connect Gerhartsreiter to the murder” and relying solely on circumstantial evidence. Think about all the evidence in this case. We’ve got to get a first degree conviction!

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/10/2013 at 9:21 pm

      Hooray!!! That SOB should fry for his crimes. We watched that trial (at least I think it was the trial not a 48 hr version)??? I felt he was a psycho then so again Hooray!!!!!!!!!

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 9:29 pm

        The murder trial just ended. Do u mean the child kidnapping trial? Yeah talk about a big time sociopath!

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 9:32 pm

        I was stunned at how quickly the trial wrapped up. It wasnt covered much in the press – gee, wonder which trial usurped it?- but it couldn’t have been more than a matter of a few weeks. I’m actually very surprised he was convicted. I thought it was a stretch. But they did have a couple of key pieces of circumstantial evidence.

  29. Anonymous
    04/10/2013 at 9:02 pm

    omg stop the ALV trainwreck stop herrrrrrrrr ewww

  30. pmoz
    04/10/2013 at 9:05 pm

    Will there be a rebuttal? and if so what should be expected.

    • donchais
      04/10/2013 at 9:15 pm

      big time…Juan will call his last witnesses…after cross and juror questions…we will go to closing arguments…pros has last say and then the jury goes to work…if DP, we will go to mitigation…could take another couple weeks!

      • Lisa M
        04/10/2013 at 9:34 pm

        If she’s God willing convicted of first degree and we go to mitigation I think the victim impact statents by Travis’ siblings will be key don’t u? I can’t wait for them to have their day on court.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 9:29 am

        Lisa M-
        If she is convicted of 1st degree during THIS PHASE of the trial, known as the “GUILT PHASE”, they will go to the NEXT PHASE, which is known as the “PENALTY PHASE”. During the penalty phase, the State will present evidence of the previously set forth AGGRAVATING FACTOR (that the crime was HEINOUS, CRUEL, ATROCIOUS, etc), and it is the DEFENSE who will present evidence of “MITIGATING FACTORS” (i.e. mitigation). These are items which they will contend “mitigate” against the imposition of the dealth penalty.

        Just wanted to clear up the terminology for folks.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:17 pm

      This is my guess of content I know of (Im sure others will add to it.)

      Computer traces on emails/facebook entries etc
      Psychologist who knows what she is doing

      can’t remember other witnesses… so over to someone else.

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 9:38 pm

        a custodian of records from both a gas station, and wal-mart…

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:47 pm

        oh yeah…. the gas guy that will attest to only being able to buy gas at that hour and the walmart person attesting to the can never being returned. yaya thanks Jim (again)

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:55 am

        The PPL guy Re: Cancun ticketing.

  31. 04/10/2013 at 9:13 pm

    Jim :
    no problem Syn – I’ll see ya yesterday! I’m going to call it a day. I enjoyed it!

    lol noooo Jim.. you will see me tomorrow I will see you yesterday! 😀

    *waves* ttfn

  32. pmoz
    04/10/2013 at 9:14 pm

    Does anyone know what AVL said to Travis sister yesterday and I heard on Dr. Drew that when a victims advocate person had approached Travis sister and told her that what AVL did was misconduct that the sister had made a comment JM is already on it.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:28 pm

      Pmoz… we get daily posts in here via Donchais from KatieCooLady we know her as Lady In Court. She is who saw and reported LaLa’s approach to Samantha.

      excellent radio show about it if you care to listen.

      [audio src="http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/517/show_4517531.mp3" /]

    • Amber
      04/10/2013 at 11:40 pm

      I heard she said “It’s not personal” . . . .

  33. NapaNonnie
    04/10/2013 at 9:14 pm

    Family of Law – love your Jodi journal entry in #23. It sounds exactly like her immature “law of attraction” ramblings. On another note, I’m sick of hearing how that stupid mockumentary has a scientific basis. Maybe it is based on science in la la land and that’s why la Toilet thinks it has an application like her time space continuum.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:22 pm

      Infomercial… let’s not upgrade it’s relevance 😀

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 9:28 pm

        there it is! ^ lol – love it! ^

  34. Jim
    04/10/2013 at 9:16 pm

    Syntara :
    ok……love this reply…. but now enquiring minds must know more!!!!
    Jim… re impeachment brief explanation how it works and how the jury decides? please

    It really just exists as a concept – JM’s job is to impeach AL’s testimony/credibility/reliability, etc. so that when the jury begins deliberation, they (hopefully) will decide to disregard her expert opinion having determined it to be useless in the process of fact finding….

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:19 pm

      gotya so laymans term is discredit I guess ?

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 9:24 pm

        Yup 🙂 I think I hurt my tongue, lol! I was saying all that as I was typing it…

  35. daislyflower
    04/10/2013 at 9:21 pm

    Cannot wait for the jury questions, this witness can hardly hold up to this pressure. She really dug herself in. So unprofessional and kinda ugly to look at sick of her.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 12:58 am

      Yes, ALV is so hard on the eyes! Can you imagine the issue of ALV just answering the juror’s questions as asked? She’s going to implode on the stand.

  36. 04/10/2013 at 9:23 pm

    Just noticed that the agitation specialist is all buttoned up today. No bubbies showing. Proof she reads Donchais’ blog.

    • donchais
      04/10/2013 at 9:24 pm

      ****SNORT****

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 9:45 pm

        Donchais who is the woman that has been sitting with her, first off I thought she was a Jury Consultant, but then the regular agitation specialist was no longer there and left the new gal on her lonesome –
        possible replacement?

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 9:50 pm

        dunno…think she is a jury consultant…she looked at a lot of files and after tossing one juror and lip readers seeing what Jodi says, several of us believe she is trying to toss another juror…seems she concentrates on the females only…her competition? just a guess!

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 9:53 pm

        Tx ~hugs~

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 9:54 pm

        Raising a $2 buck chuck at ya!

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 9:58 pm

        Got it!! Cheers Donchais 😛

      • donchais
        04/10/2013 at 10:00 pm

        Slainte

  37. Observer
    04/10/2013 at 9:23 pm

    I think Martinez ended on a great note when he stresses twice thsat those text messages Travis wrote to Jodi calling her a sociopath and evil and that she was the worst thing that happened to him were written on May 26, 2008, two days from May 28, 2008.

    The significance of that is that on May 28, 2008, Jodi’s grandfather’s .25 caliber gun was stolen.

    Here’s the timeline that proves motive.

    May 22, 2008, Jodi writes in her journal that she and Travis break up for good and he tells her he is love with and wants to marry Mimi Hall.

    May 26, 2008, Travis texts her that she is evil, a sociopath and the worst thing that ever happened to him.

    May 28, 2008, Jodi stages a burglary at her grandparent’s home in Yreka, CA. where she lives and steals a .25 caliber gun.

    June 3, 2008, Jodi rents a car 90 miles from her home, removes the license plate, borrows two gas cans from Daryl Brewer and buys a third gas can, turns off her phone and drives to Mesa, AZ.

    June 4, 2008, Jodi stabs Travis 29 times, slits his throat and shoots him in the head with a .25 caliber gun and then gets rid of the murder weapons and bloody clothes, fills her tank with the gas cans and drives 750 miles to Salt Lake City, UT.

    June 5, 2008, Jodi shows up at a PPL event with Ryan Byrnes as an alibi, thinking the body will be found soon.

    June 10, 2008, Travis’s body is found and as soon as she finds out, Jodi calls the police and tells them that Travis weighed almost 200 lbs. and one person couldn’t have overpowered him so they needed to look for two killers.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 9:34 pm

      Makes tons of sense! Very well presented – should send this to the Kinko’s in Mesa and have them print it out on posterboard and deliver to JM to use in his Closing…

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:40 pm

      The State rests. Great summation, Observer.

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:53 pm

      and the kicker is?

      he called her a sociopath and the last thing you do is threaten to show up a sociopath (+p) for what they are. They work their whole lives to hide it.

      That was the trigger but the rest was in the planning for the trigger.

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 12:30 am

        One thing that has bothered me a little is why would Travis show Jodi pictures of Mimi and say that this is the girl he wants to marry? Do we even know this is true? Is there any corroboration?

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:36 am

        I doubt he would. Like you I would have to have corroborating evidence and I mean REAL corroborating evidence. I can’t see him doing that. Unless shen had been on her best behaviour for motns and months and somehow lulled him into believing she had actually turned human. That’s the only way I can imagine it being even remotely likely.

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 9:57 pm

      Once again Observer, excellent recap and timeline. You have a wonderful way of keeping everything in perspective.

  38. 04/10/2013 at 9:26 pm

    Jim :
    Yup I think I hurt my tongue, lol! I was saying all that as I was typing it…

    Get to bed! 🙂 ty for all your great explanations I really appreciate it!! 😀

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 9:31 pm

      I really was just wanting to go stretch – but it’s raining… maybe I should do one of them yogurt moves, and stand on my head….

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:49 pm

        lol specially if you ain’t wearing makeup!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 9:49 pm

      Syn, you flatter me so! But you are the one doing all the mental heavy lifting – your insight into the motivations of these loons we are following is invaluable! Cheers!

  39. Lisa M
    04/10/2013 at 9:38 pm

    Observer: I I think Martinez ended on a great note when he stresses twice thsat those text messages Travis wrote to Jodi calling her a sociopath and evil and that she was the worst thing that happened to him were written on May 26, 2008, two days from May 28, 2008.

    The significance of that is that on May 28, 2008, Jodi’s grandfather’s .25 caliber gun was stolen.”
    Wow! That and the fact that he told her he wanted to marry Mimi Hall are what sent her over the edge. You should email Juan your timeline. It so succinctly connects the dots re: motive!

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:56 pm

      pretty sure he knows LisaM, that’s where he is leading us! next up is his psychologist more than likely.. to explain why him calling her a sociopath is truth not rage or abuse.

      • 04/10/2013 at 9:58 pm

        sadly enough.. it’s also what probably cost him his life. At least the timing of it.

  40. 04/10/2013 at 9:40 pm

    Where can I find the video part of Juan tossing a pen that Wurmi got so upset about????

    • Jo
      04/10/2013 at 11:53 pm

      I don’t know the video but it was during his examination of the previous “expert” Samuels. JM got angry and tossed his pen rather hard on the podium and it bounced off onto the floor. I know I was laughing because he was so frustrated and I understood. He did not throw it. IMHO. He did not throw it AT anyone. It did not fly over the podium. It just hit the podium too hard to stay put and bounced to the floor. Oh yes, and he never missed a beat in his questioning nor picked it up.

  41. kristin
    04/10/2013 at 9:42 pm

    During the trial today a text message from Travis to JA was mentioned. It said I love you. I’m very surprised because I thought there was never an instance where Travis said he loved JA. Anyone know anything about this? I just find this hard to believe. I wouldn’t put it past JA to have texted it to herself from his phone or manipulated texts.

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/10/2013 at 10:08 pm

      Hopefully this is was the rebuttal witness will testify to.

      • Nancy Pennington
        04/10/2013 at 10:12 pm

        Meant to say “what”

        My husband says, regarding la toilet “wipe, flush, repeat!

  42. Wendy
    04/10/2013 at 9:44 pm

    This trial has really gotten in to my head. The hubster and I were out and I asked him to drive by a place of business, he said I will but you won’t be able to see anything. Then I heard Juan’s voice inside my head saying, “did I ask you if you could see anything?” So glad I didn’t say it out loud. Lol😄

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:51 pm

      Lol!

    • 04/10/2013 at 9:54 pm

      Lol… Good one! Thanks for the chuckle, Wendy 😄

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:00 pm

        CC – our avatars (I think that’s what you call them) are almost twins! 😀

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:00 pm

      LOLOL!!!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 10:05 pm

      LOL!!!

    • MoVG
      04/11/2013 at 9:12 am

      Wendy, that is hilarious!!

  43. 04/10/2013 at 9:50 pm

    Oh my gosh, even Juantastic is looking bored and irritated!

  44. Nancy Pennington
    04/10/2013 at 10:05 pm

    Dare we to hope that whoever this next (and pray last) def witless is that they will be objective and will be able to answer yes and no questions. Unlike laToilet who could not admit the sky is blue and grass is green only that they both have been abused by Travis.

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:27 pm

      NancyP… in the immortal words of John McEnroe “You cannot be serious?”

  45. 04/10/2013 at 10:12 pm

    Hello Everyone,
    I come here everyday to see all your comment – such a very smart and funny group you all are. This is my first post here.I don’t know if this has been mentioned before but maybe you can answer because this have been bothering me.

    In the police report it said that the religious garments were in the washer with the towels, bedding and camera. Travis’ roommates said that Travis was the only one that wore religious garments. You don’t think twisted, deranged Jodi wore these while she killed Travis thus performing her own version of the blood atonement ritual. Also Travis’ roommates said Travis was kind of a neat freak – a neat freak would not put a white garment in with dark items.

    Also why can’t Laviolette answer yes or no – I can’t stand it – she will get her chance to elaborate or re-direct. It seems on re-direct its like a do over that the defense is trying to fill up the holes. She is soo disrespectful.

    I hope that Justice prevails and she get put in a little white room for the rest of her life with the death scene pictures and the rest of the defence nuts get contempt of court and get some jail time even if it is 24 hours.

    Thank you all – loving all the post – go Juan.

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:34 pm

      I hope not.. I don’t thing she wore the garments for a few reasons that spring to mind. (not that I’m familiar with exactly what they look like but guessing assuming [not a good thing to do I know] they include some kind of gown)

      1. He would not have been in that shower for a moment if she rocked up in those.
      2. Hisroomies said he was performing some kind of ritual strangely a protection ritual (hoping observer can explain this??) he could have been wearing these for that?
      3. The shot of her foot lying next to him dead or dying shows a pant leg, no hint of a garment.

      All these could be wrong if the fgarments mentioned are nothing like what I imagine them to be.

      Observer can you help me on this please? Thank you in advance.

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:49 pm

        Wow. I hadn’t heard about that protection ritual he was performing. I wonder if JA knew what those under garments were for? Protection from her!

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 11:20 pm

        There were photos of the gowns – indeed as you suspect, Syn, they run shoulder blade to toenail – I guessing these were just handy during cleanup time, if there were in fact found in the washer. I remember the washer contents being bed linen, towel, t-shirt, undie, and shorts of TA, and of course, the camera dingbat threw in there to destroy….don’t recall the robe…

      • 04/10/2013 at 11:23 pm

        No I don’t recall the robe either and that poor forensics woman had to take everything out one by one cos wormi was a complete @ss to her!

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:26 am

        I’m sorry Synatara I did not mean the temple robe I meant the sacred under garments if this makes a difference.

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:31 am

        ahhh ok sorry! yes that would make a difference. Would not put nthat passed her.. not saying she did… but wouldn’t put it passed her at all.. of so that makes the nthroat slash very very creepy (as if it’s not already!) shheeesh! What a thought!!!

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 1:42 am

        There was nothing special about his undies that were in the washer – plain white boxer briefs…..

  46. Douglme
    04/10/2013 at 10:14 pm

    Regina :
    Dunchais, why the judge is letting this b**tch disrespect Martinez the way she did. My understanding is that reason enough for consider LaViotina a hostile witness and impeach her. Why, I am asking this question over and over and I am not getting any answer. I wish there was another channel besides HLN to watch because my stomach cannot take anymore of these people fom HLN. I feel or you having to listen Wilcott’s voice. Jesus, just take me!

    Regina, you can watch it here with no commercials http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130220jodi-arias-murder-trial-arizona-live-video.html?nclick_check=1

  47. Chrissie A
    04/10/2013 at 10:14 pm

    The Spidey underpants on Cameron Diaz made JA jealous – That’s how they were integrated into her lies:

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 10:44 pm

      When I heard that (weeks ago) about Cameron Diaz and Spiderman undies I thought the very same thing. JA was jealous of Travis’ attraction to CD. Takes it all to a whole new level of obsession! Wow!

      • Chrissie A
        04/10/2013 at 10:46 pm

        Totally insecure as well 😉

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:59 pm

        What better (and most despicable) way to get back at him – ruin his reputation postmortem by making an outrageous pedophile claim about him.

        If you look up the word “evil” in the dictionary, you will see her ugly mug.

      • kristin
        04/11/2013 at 12:16 am

        She should be insecure with that gruesome vagina of hers. Blehhhhhh

  48. 04/10/2013 at 10:19 pm

    janine1256 :
    CC – our avatars (I think that’s what you call them) are almost twins!

    You’re right, Janine … I like the company! 😉

  49. donchais
    04/10/2013 at 10:20 pm

    Kids, storms are so severe here, ‘fraid of fryin my ‘putor…on your own…behave, k?

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 10:28 pm

      Stay safe! and thanks again for the forum!

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 10:28 pm

      Thanks Donchais, hope the weather eases up for you, stay cozy ~hugs~

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:36 pm

      Nighty night Donchais. Thank You for everything! 😀

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 10:40 pm

      Nite Donchais. Thanks again for everything you do for us.

  50. Wendy
    04/10/2013 at 10:21 pm

    Well I’m off. Gotta get some zzz’s. nite everyone. 😴

    • Chrissie A
      04/10/2013 at 10:28 pm

      Nite Wendy, I’m gonna be off in a bit too 😉

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:37 pm

      ciao bella

  51. danny
    04/10/2013 at 10:27 pm

    From my understanding the sex tape evidence was the possession of Jodi Arias. If this is the case, it does not make sense that Jodi was sexual humiliated as she would not tape her escapades to torture herself by listening to them over and over again. My point is in order to completely discredit the theory of Travis the abuser and confirm Jodi the stalker, I wish Martinez would ask Laviolette the question of “would it be common for a victim of sexual humility and physical abuse to audio tape their sex sessions or would it not be more common if a stalker were to audio tape their sexcapades as Jodi Did” Stalkers like souvenirs and Jodis sex tapes were her souvenirs.There is no way Laviolette could answer this question without discrediting herself or making Jodi look really bad.

    • NancyB
      04/10/2013 at 10:36 pm

      From your mouth to the Juantastic’s ears!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:38 pm

      goooooooooood point!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 10:44 pm

      I wish i could unsee some of her souvenirs! Those unredacted hoohaa pics are burned into my retinas….

      • 04/10/2013 at 10:53 pm

        trophies dear trophies!

        and… I’m moor trying to unsear …. yes unsear!!! that pic Chrissie did yesterday. I’m more traumatised by that cos all I looked for in that other pic was the time stamp! which sadly right where the time is it’s black and can’t be read which really ps me off!!!!! REALLY p’s me off.

      • kristin
        04/11/2013 at 12:18 am

        I feel like Ive been wandering the Earth lost and bleeding from my eyes since I chose to disregard MMDs warning on those pictures! Sweet Jesus help me!!!

  52. geri5699
    04/10/2013 at 10:35 pm

    Sorry that I caused confusion about what Jim said in #966 on previous blog.. He didn’t say anything was wrong with sex tapes ..I feel that way..Maybe it was taped months or a year before when they were together and she saved it and sent it with that caller “Snope ” or what ever it’s called to make it look like it was from his phone on this date.. She had said her phone was stolen..or maybe I got it wrong…Oh well

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 10:39 pm

      no worries – the posts come a lot faster than my old ass can keep up with them 🙂 Welcome aboard!

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:45 pm

      I believe, the sex tape was made without Travis’ knowledge because.

      1. The recording of it is not mentioned throughout and if it was mutual consent I’m sure it would have come up at some stage. Something like ” this is gonna be good when we listen to it again” I dunno anything.. but something .

      2. She seems to lead in a lot but not all of it. She definitely initiates it by saying she is horny.

      But I relistened to them yesterday and I have to say it does seem like they have had physical sex before… BUT there is not a shred of evidence in that tape the sex was anal.

      That’s my 2¢ on the recording as it stands. I still feel in my gut there is something in there that I’m missing though.

      • NancyB
        04/10/2013 at 11:40 pm

        So do I! I don’t believe that he knew that he was being taped. She got that Helio (?) phone from scummy Gus when she staye with him in his trailer for 2 days & it had recording options.

        I definitely believe they had sex. Chris Stark is convinced that Jodi’s timeline of when they 1st began having sex is not true. She insists that it’s not until many months later and she had interesting info of why she believes that but unfortunately I can’t remember those details.

  53. Tracey A
    04/10/2013 at 10:38 pm

    Syntara :
    yeah yeah… familiar with the saying…” me thinks she doth protest too much??” Huh??? Miss M&M pants!

    LOL!!! Actually I am familiar with that (Hamlet I think). And all I gotta to say to that is, “well…me doth when backed into a corner by Syn!” 🙂

    And I’ll have you know I wear my M&M pants proudly!

  54. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 10:39 pm

    I am also very excited to see what the PPLCancun person that is on the state’s rebuttal list has to say!

    • 04/10/2013 at 10:49 pm

      ooooh yeah another to add to that list upstairs!

  55. NancyB
    04/10/2013 at 10:42 pm

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 1h

    @ElleHightow oops cancun pre paid legal human resources.
    View conversation

  56. 04/10/2013 at 10:47 pm

    I don’t like to speculate, but I have adjusted my personal theory and I’ll share. The last picture, before the frenzy, was of Travis sitting in the shower stall. It appears the water is not running. I believe this is when the gun came out and he was forced to sit. She shot him at that point. Downward trajectory. But from my personal experience overseas, and just reading the news rags everyday…sometimes people go for years with headaches, until finally an x-ray reveals they’ve been carrying a bullet in the head for many years. In combat guys get shot in the head and survive. Sometimes bullets penetrate the helmet and spin around the circle and exit with no trauma to the head. He’s shot, but is alive and makes a run for it. She hadn’t expected him to live, so she stabs him in the chest, and as he gets past her she hits his head and back with the knife. He expels blood in a cough at the sink, she’s on him. He makes a break for the hallway. He hits the wall and he goes to all fours, that’s when she cuts his throat. I think she she probably only intended to shoot him dead and not make such a mess. She rolled him onto a towel and dragged him back to the bathroom; no blood in the middle, then went about cleaning up. The blood on the bathroom floor would have had some time to coagulate and I think she probably kicked the shell casing on accident causing it to land on the dried blood. There is a slight ring of truth to some of what she says at times. “The man had the gun,” the female had the knife, he was on all fours, etc. Having grown up in the ganglands of Texas in the early eighties, then the ghettos of Philadelphia, then later to war, I know violence. I would have tried with all my powers to kill my attacker. Travis, unfortunately, had no experience with anyone trying to kill him on a regular basis, was a decent, and peaceful guy, so he tried to escape his assault and his eventual killer. Also, the shell casing could have been inadvertently kicked to the place on top of the dried blood by one of the friends who found him. Hard to believe that the guy would take a cold shower, so it seems to me the tile in the bathroom would be moist and humid; not perfect conditions for blood to dry that fast, especially in the span of 62 seconds. Also, I don’t believe she stomped on his feet of beat them with a baseball bat. It seems to me that the blood draining to the lowest point in the body would have been his feet and lower legs. Just MHO.

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 10:50 pm

      I like it – but I don’t think she rolled him onto the towel – I think she rolled him onto a bed sheet – I think you just explained to me why the sheets were bloody as well – when they were a distance away from the actual scene…

      • Janeto
        04/10/2013 at 11:00 pm

        Excellant Jim! My thoughts exactly. The sheets and or blanket.. that’s why they were in the washer!!!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/10/2013 at 11:10 pm

      Wow! Bubble. I had to ponder this for a bit. Very interesting intel here based on your military experience. But one question keeps revolving in my brain here. Why didn’t JA just unload the entire clip of the gun on him?

      I’ve heard the expression “bringing a gun to a knife fight” but the reverse would be “bringing a knife to a gun fight”. Why not just unload the clip??

      I’m unfamiliar with a .25 caliber gun so I’m not sure how much noise it makes. My guess would be a bit similar to a .22 caliber but that’s just a guess. The knife attack just makes it so up close and personal and in JA’s rage at being rejected by Travis she wanted it to be personal. Still thinking this through some more…

      • Jim
        04/10/2013 at 11:39 pm

        .25 autos are notorious for being very “picky” about ammo – I suspect it failed to successfully load another round (a weak-wristed grip can also cause this) and the gun was no longer viable to her.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 1:21 am

      I agree with you that this scenario is very plausible. A .25 caliber wound is small…can be tolerated if it hits the right spot. The wound would very likely leave Travis in a position to continue to fight for his life. I saw a diagram of the bullet trajectory which showed it traveled through his sinus, which would explain the aspirated blood at the sink.
      As a woman, I really cannot imagine that Jodi would be victorious in that initial confrontation with a knife, if that were the first wound. Travis is just too strong, smart, and athletic to allow Jodi to pull that off. He had to be shot first. IMO!!

    • kristin
      04/11/2013 at 1:24 am

      Thank you for your service:) As a former Soldier and spouse of a Soldier I think you rock!

    • Stacey
      04/11/2013 at 10:57 am

      I agree, I have thought all along that he was shot first and I also believe the picture of him sitting in the shower was by force. He had that look of dispair in his eye’s.

  57. Janeto
    04/10/2013 at 10:58 pm

    In response to “why judge will not continue to tell LaLa Land to answer the questions!!!!!!!” I don’t care how long Judge has been working cases with JM, she should request the witness answer or be impeached!!!!! She should admonish her to the public gallery. Not the jurors. Warn her before taking the stand that she needs to start cooperating with the questions asked by pros!! And also the defense for “mouthing” what to say…. Leeway is leeway, THIS IS BEYOND LEEWAY! imo…Judge, get some cahones!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jim
      04/10/2013 at 11:29 pm

      The court is just giving the witness the unrestricted right to impugn herself in front of the jury – all part of fact finding…

  58. 04/10/2013 at 11:01 pm

    I think the ME’s report and where the bullet landed show he could not have been shot first. I believe the stabwound to the heart/chest was first. I believe the bullet was at the end, there’s just not enough bleeding as the ME states. The ME said although the brain was liquified deu to decomp, there was not enough bleeding in the skull cavity, Dr Horn stated he had almost certainly already largely bled out or was dead at the time of the shooting.

    • 04/10/2013 at 11:17 pm

      ME (Dr Horn) on the stand – breaking down the autopsy results.

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 1:43 am

        Gawd! Watching this makes me sick. JA and her fake crying. I actually think she’s trying to stifle a laugh when she looks at her “handiwork”. I’m disgusted all over again. EVIL BITCH! I RESENT YOU BREATHING THE SAME AIR AS THE REST OF US!!!!

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:56 am

        with he fake crying… she recovers immediately… no red eyes, no redness in her cheeks, no swollen lips… not one tiny hint of crying.. and she was going for hours!!!

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/10/2013 at 11:36 pm

      Hey Syn. I agree with you but after reading bubblebutts account I’m wondering. Remember when JA was on cross exam and JM said something to the effect that the bullet casing was on top of a pool of blood and she said that wasn’t the way it happened or that couldn’t be right. What if she knew that she HAD kicked it by accident so she Knew it couldn’t have happened like the ME said . That would sure blow her blackout/fog bs to hell and gone.

      • 04/10/2013 at 11:46 pm

        ok going to plat devil’s advocate here… it would still not look pristine on that blood. No way.. it would have been splattered with all that blood in there. It just couldn’t look the wayn it does if it shot out nof that gun before any of that carnage on that floor.

      • NancyB
        04/10/2013 at 11:51 pm

        Impossible for gunshot 1st. I’m a RN and worked in inner city ER’s back east for more than a decade and 6 yrs in Neuro Intensive Care. Treated and cared for thousands of GSW to the head. The medical examiner’s testimony on this and ESPECIALLY his testimony on cross with JW explains in detail why this is impossible. This bullet did not graze his skull like some think. It entered the frontal lobe of his brain. The velocity of the missile and gases released and ripping through brain tissue caused IMMEDIATE neurogenic shock and unconsciousness. Not to mention that there was no hemorrhage/bleeding in the brain cavity, which is impossible if gun shot was first. Any theory that involves gun shot wound 1st defies science.

      • 04/10/2013 at 11:53 pm

        Plusn the ME says.. right at the end of that clips above… both the neck wound and/or the head wound would have been immediately incapacitating. After either he would not have been able to fight back.

      • 04/10/2013 at 11:54 pm

        oops sorry NancyB our posts crossed. I did not see yours prior to posting mine.

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:03 am

        furthermore.. this is the likely reason they have no forensic pathologist willing to stand up and testify the gunshot was first. They know it couldn’t have been and won’t impeach their integrity by trying to claim otherwise.

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:04 am

        What I still can’t work out is that picture of Travis in the shower, that I no longer can find anywhere, where he’s looks totally surprised and very afraid. Do any of you remember this picture?

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:10 am

        which one nancy? hahah thats a stupid question! it’s not in that slideshow was it JIm? maybe not…. posted the other day?

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:15 am

        The bullet casing had no blood on the top of it and no finger prints on it either – when Jodi in a sly way intimated that maybe the forensic team planted it there – it lay on top of the small pool of congealed blood and as Syn already said, it would have to have had blood spatter on it (location by sink) if it had been the 1st wound and if 1st it wouldn’t be lying on top of the congealed blood. The ME’s report covers all these other scenarios well. JW kept asking him about MANY of them, stories about people that have nails in their brains and find out yrs later, etc. His definitive and firm response to each of her “theories” leaves no question about these issues.

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:20 am

        Nope it’s not. I’ve looked everywhere. I posted it here wayyyy back when – but who knows where. It’s not in any of the slide shows or Chris Starks files. Oh well.

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 12:32 am

        http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196005&page=9

        look about half way down this thread – think its the one you are after….

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 12:46 am

      I also believe he was shot last based primarily on the ME’s testimony. He seemed very credible to me. I also think she would have been hesitant to use the gun in case it was linked to her grandfather and she just brought it for backup. I also think she wanted him to suffer but never thought he’d get out of the shower and things would get so messy. However I will admit that it still seems to make more sense to shoot him first if you really want him dead and dont want to risk him overpowering you, but she didn’t just want to eliminate him like a hitman would, she had a lot of rage. But I’ll admit I can’t figure out her thinking. Which is probably a good thing. It’s not logical. So I just rely on the actual expert. That and the shell casing being on top of blood make sense to me. I don’t believe that that she’ll casing got kicked during a struggle.

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 1:50 am

        I agree – shooting seems so much easier but she wanted him to suffer –remember the smiling beast talking to herself “I still beat you…”

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 1:19 am

      Here’s my take. I can’t get over the pristine condition of the bullet casing. Never have been able to get over that. That casing was ejected from the gun and landed exactly where we see it in the crime scene photos. Had it been kicked, it would’ve rolled around on that coagulated pool of blood and had blood on the sides. It does not.

      Having sustained a wound to my forehead (not a GSW but a graze wound) I bled like a stuck pig. People around me immediately called paramedics thinking I was surely dying and bleeding out. (This was teenage years). Even I panicked in the moment cuz everyone around was so scared. The paramedics showed up and told me a couple of stitches would be necessary but other than that, no big deal.

      If Travis were shot in the head first there would be way more blood present. I still maintain that the stabbing was so personal and rage fueled that that is what JA intended. She was going to make him pay. And pay he did.

      Bubble really made me pause and take another look based on his experience which I absolutely respect. But I can’t get over that bullet casing in the blood.

      I defer to NancyB’s experience in the ER with GSW patients and that bullet casing. That bullet casing is a huge key to me.

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 1:47 am

        Totally agree with you Tracey!

  59. 04/10/2013 at 11:09 pm

    The sheets were found in the dryer if my recollection is correct. I’ll go with the bedsheets as the device to move. I posit she meant to put them back on the bed, but decided to jet as time was running out.

    • Ginger
      04/10/2013 at 11:37 pm

      She used the ky put it on his back and he was easy to slide along.

      • kristin
        04/11/2013 at 1:27 am

        I like your thinking ginger!

  60. Nancy Pennington
    04/10/2013 at 11:16 pm

    Lisa M: just realized that I did not say the kidnapping trial. Sorry!! I wish I could have watched the murder trial. At least the look on his face at the word GUILTY. Same for watching JA hear that word (hoping and praying )

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 1:02 am

      I don’t think the murder trial was filmed. But I did watch a video clip of the verdict being read. He didn’t show any emotion, just had that little smirk on his face which he always has. But u could tell he was upset behind it all. I know I shouldn’t say this because obviously he was found guilty of murder but there is something so pitiful about that guy I did feel a little twinge of sympathy for him.

      • Nancy Pennington
        04/11/2013 at 10:23 am

        I feel much more pity for his child and the ex-wife that supported him for years and for the dead people left in his wake. Sorry for him (whoever he was really), not so much.

  61. 04/10/2013 at 11:16 pm

    Good night, everybody! Thank you for helping me keep my sanity intact, as well as my television. I also don’t have to scream out loud as often. My hubby thanks you too! 😉

    • 04/10/2013 at 11:19 pm

      night janine **waves**

  62. 04/10/2013 at 11:26 pm

    Subject: Re: Getting shot by a handgun
    From: marineissuemom-ga on 26 Mar 2005 01:45 PST
    Opiodergics-ga I am sorry that you had to suffer this.
    You discribed a gunshot almost perfectly. Mine was to the face a 22
    CAl. with 10 year old bullets. I think I blacked out but the first
    thing I remember was it felt like I had been hit in the face with a
    sledgehammer.I don’t remember no burning. But it hurts like nothing
    you have ever felt. I kept that bullet in me for two miserable years,
    before they removed it from my throat.

    From experiance with my own accident. A 22 will kill, but it depends
    on the gun, the age and type of bullet. ANd where they hit you.

    • NancyB
      04/10/2013 at 11:56 pm

      This description is a GSW to the face not the frontal lobe of the brain like Travis’. By the way, Bubble your comments on the previous thread had me LOL and I needed that! There are so many folks here that are very quick witted and just hilarious. Hey Jim, I also was LOL with your in progress vocabulary list!! 🙂

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 12:09 am

        Thanks Nancy! You can believe that she is gonna get them to! I’m going on vacation and going to drop the envelopes in mailboxes from Arkansas down to Florida, and maybe a few from the Bahamas while I’m there…

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:22 am

        I love it!

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:26 am

        Jim… plse plse plse if you send em or get them to her plse plse also include “In Sheeps Clothing” by Dr Geoge K Simons! PLEASE!!!

  63. 04/10/2013 at 11:35 pm

    As with some models of .22’s, .25’s are notorious for jamming most, if not all 25’s I’ve been acquainted with jam. .25’s are rare, probably something you’re grandfather would just have lying around in an old shoebox. Something a snoop like Jodi Anus would find.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 1:29 am

      But again…JA’s own lack of knowledge about guns kept her from knowing that .25’s are rare, and that if she stole her grampa’s .25 and used it to kill Travis, it would be a glaring red flag that pointed at her guilt! Einstein, indeed!

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 1:50 am

        Well said! My thoughts exactly when a .25 cal was referenced. Her bad, our good!

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 10:31 am

        No kidding.
        I had a case once where the defendant used a .25. Investigation revealed that he had bought it off of a friend who had taken it from his partents’ garage. It had been issued to his father when he had been a U.S. Marine fighting in either the Korean or Viet Nam war (I forget which). Very distinctive ammo, to boot.
        There is NO WAY that a young man of Travis’ age– in this day and time–and given his history of shooting with friends– would go and get a .25 to keep in his houe.
        Also– why would he have a gun in the house in the first place, let alone an allegedly LOADED gun withOUT the SAFETY ON???!
        Totally obvious LIES.

        And as for the Jodi having a high IQ, I have to just wonder why the media tried to make it seem as though she DID or DOES.
        Clearly, and I mean CLEARLY, she does NOT.
        I think htat JM’s point on that was missed entirely by the JVM/NG crowd. The point is tha someone who told people she was looking forward to being tested because she –allegedly–had this supposedly high IQ is evidence of thefact that Jodi, conrtrary to the opinions of her experts, did NOT suffer from low self-esteem. She is as full of rself as every other self-absorbed manipulator.

  64. Trial watcher
    04/10/2013 at 11:38 pm

    I know this is right off the topic BUT:
    Juan’s last question for Alyce: would you be happy if Ms. Arias
    is found innocent and then becomes your grandson’s new girlfriend?
    Yes or No please.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/11/2013 at 10:43 am

      She’s say, “yes”, no doubt, but only after NOT ANSWERING the question about 20 times, going on about the “context” and other nonsense, such as “I don’t have a grandson, Mr. Martinez” (again, not “getting” the fact that lawyers are permitted by the Rules of Evidence to pose HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS to witnesses who have been qualified by the court to testify as experts at trial after the party offering said person as an expert has laid the appropriate factual foundation for said witness offering expert opinion in the case.)

      She would throw in a half dozen, “It cannot be answered ‘yes or no’, Mr. Martinez”, and “Would you like to know what I think or would you like to just have an answer, Mr. Martinez?”

      She was completely exasperating, and don’t think that goes unnoticed by jurors.
      Amazing how easily she is able to answer almost ALL of JW’s questions with a simple “yes”.
      The jury saw it too.
      It was very amateur hour.
      Seasoned experts may spar with you during cross, but not in a truly passive-aggressive/CHILDISH manner.

      I did not feel sympathy for this witness in the least.
      She caused the cross to drag on and on and on, simply because she felt this absurd need to challenge and make hay where none was required.
      Not admitting that the word “stalking” appeared–in BLACK AND WHITE– or her continuum under the last heading, for example.
      EVERYONE understood that he was pointing out to her that the word APPEARED THERE, on that sheet, but she refused to just ADMIT that.
      Ridiculous.

      Looking over to Jodi and JW with pleading eyes, CONSTANTLY.
      Very indicative of her BIAS, and very amateurish in the realm of expert witness behavior on the stand.

  65. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/10/2013 at 11:39 pm

    Hello All…..well Ci Ci’s son’s business has been pretty busy lately so we’ve been without online access but we’ve been reading the postings via the IPAD. Let me tell you…..if they don’t get that dried up old gasbag off the stand and fast we’re going to wind up in AA!! The only way we can tolerate her and HLN is when the cork is popped!

    Today was agonizing!! That reject from the 60’s is truly an embarrassment to us and our generation! And to sit up there and proudly announce that “I lived through the 60s and 70s Mr. Martinez” got us all fired up! What happened you old gasbag??? It looks like the 1960 Time Machine to the present left without you!! For heaven’s sake…..when are you going to realize that men are abused too!! Why is it sooooo hard for you to see that?! You’re no expert….you’re a reject from the 60’s who thinks in reverse and is sooooo old you probably fart white dust!! So there….that’s what you get for driving us to drink with your nonsense and one-sided testimony! Do you honestly believe that the jury believes you??? You fool……you got suckered in by JA and your lust for money! Well once you’re sent packing let’s see if JA and her cronies come to rescue your failing career.

    We were very impressed with JM today! He uncovered that old bag for what she is….a pitiful excuse for a human being……just like the 3 hole wonder…..she has a hole for each of you! We didn’t bother watching this afternoon. We can only hope that Wilnothing will be done early tomorrow so jury questions can be reviewed and move forward. On to JM’s Rebuttal and let the walls of Jericho crumble!!

    Time for us to go home…..Ci Ci’s knocked out on the couch and one of the old hens wrote on her forehead with a marker!!! He he he….we’re going to hear about that tomorrow!!

    • 04/10/2013 at 11:50 pm

      .you’re a reject from the 60′s who thinks in reverse and is sooooo old you probably fart white dust!! So there….that’s what you

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/10/2013 at 11:55 pm

      You guys are a hoot. Got to share–hubby and I went out for lunch today and there were these two adorable middle aged plus plus ladies in front of us and we looked at each other and said “CC’s girls” and started giggling like JA & Wingnut.

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 12:05 am

        “Wingnut” Love it!

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:06 am

        Nancy, doesn’t your husband work in the prison system or do I have you confused with someone else? By the way, I very much enjoyed both of the comments that he posted.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 12:00 am

      You were in good company with hitting the sauce – as I’m sure you saw many posting about this on the previous thread!! Love the white dust comment too 🙂

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 12:19 am

      SNAP! I called it! On the previous thread I noted that your group would have a field day when ALV said she lived through the 60’s and 70’s! And here you are! Been waiting for you all to make your presence known this evening and, as usual, you do not disappoint.

      OMG…what did they write on her forehead??? Can’t wait to hear that! You gals are the BOMB!

      My offer still stands! The next case or two of $2 Chuck is on me!!!!! Love you all so much!! 😀

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 9:10 am

        I will rest today when I find out what was written. The image of the haircut still lingers.

    • 04/11/2013 at 8:51 am

      Oh my gosh, that was hysterical!!!! ROTFL 😀

  66. Amber
    04/11/2013 at 12:05 am

    So confused… On Fox 10 News they said that Jodi has an actual twitter account…??

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 12:21 am

      if she does, someone else is operating it for her – no internet access in detention facilities – don’t want prisoners running criminal enterprises, or worse, harassing/intimidating victims/witnesses…

    • Amber
      04/11/2013 at 12:22 am

      I guess Donoman is posting them for her…
      “Anger management issues anyone?” and “No Boyfriend. Enough of that rumor.” are my favorites. No sh!t Sherlock! You killed him’n

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 9:12 am

        well if old donoman testifies, I hope h/she is asked about these revolting twitters from her twit cellmate. hey! btw donoman, the roads looked a bit littered today. have yopu been slacking off?

  67. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 12:11 am

    Wow! Bubble, again trying to digest this info. I just visited the blog of my local gun range. I searched, specifically, .22 cal vs .25 cal. Most are of the opinion that a .22 would be a better choice for SD (self defense for those not in the know…no disrespect intended). Granted, I only brought up a .22 cal in comparison for the noise level because I am familiar w/a .22. It has no place in this trial whatsoever. I thought maybe JA would be concerned about the noise level of a gunshot and alerting the neighbors.

    However, one post on The Firing Line’s site stood out to me (re: .22 vs .25 cal) and I quote “For SD, I’d rather have a good knife.” WOW! WOW! I doubt that JA did this kind of research but she could have. But I don’t think she did. JA had a loaded weapon and that was enough for her.

    I gave no thought to the gun jamming. Point well taken Bubbles. But that now makes sense. Especially when you say 25′s are rare, probably something you’re grandfather would just have lying around in an old shoebox. Something a snoop like Jodi Anus would find. And that is EXACTLY what JA did. Went to her grandfather’s closet!!! Who knows how old that ammunition was…or do we??? Haven’t heard any testimony on that.

    Oh, I just have to ponder this some more…

    • 04/11/2013 at 8:55 am

      That comment about knives as a preferred weapon for sd over a .25 was chilling!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 9:13 am

      love that you go to your local gun range. In some cities when you say that, I think they mean “downtown.”

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 2:54 pm

        LOL!! Ummm yeah! I am in L.A. after all. But here we use the term “So. Central L.A.”. That’s way more telling then “downtown”.

  68. 04/11/2013 at 12:24 am
    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 12:35 am

      YES YES YES!! thank you but it’s so blurry in this video sequence. He’s looking to the side like he was just surprised and a look of “Oh F*** on his face. It’s haunting to me.

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:39 am

        which # pic? I think I know the one it’s kinda like the one under the shower?

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:46 am

        # 14 – you are so smart!

  69. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 12:29 am

    Syntara :
    Her seemingly total lack of perception and perspective is what to me spells deliberate. Nobody with that much experience in these matters could overlook what she has unless it’s a choice to turned a blind eye.
    As soon as the preponderance of evidence weighed in that direction I stopped feeling sorry for her. For me that was way before cross started.

    Amen! Very well stated!

    • 04/11/2013 at 9:00 am

      That being the case, I am even more disgusted with that windbag than before. Unbelievable. :/

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 9:15 am

      ditto.

  70. 04/11/2013 at 12:29 am

    Jim :
    Thanks Nancy! You can believe that she is gonna get them to! I’m going on vacation and going to drop the envelopes in mailboxes from Arkansas down to Florida, and maybe a few from the Bahamas while I’m there…

    Re my pleas for you to include “In sheeps clothing by Dr G K Simon… of you can’t send her one plse give me the addy and I will!!

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 12:58 am

      Got ya covered – its on the list 🙂

  71. Schaeffer
    04/11/2013 at 12:35 am

    Jim — thanks for your answer. To follow along, I KNOW for a fact it is illegal to run a business while incarcerated, and that applies even before Son of Sam laws kick in post-conviction. Countless Mob figures have attempted it, and many have succeeded. Clearly it does go on, but it is illegal, and Sheriff Arpaio runs a pretty tight ship. I wonder if this is a contributing factor in the prosecution having WOBO’s journals seized? Hopefully it is a move to stop this bullshit.

    The serial killer BTK shared WOBO’s passion for writing and drawing. When he was sentenced, the prosecutor specifically requested he be denied access to paper, pens, pencils, reading material, magazine, catalogs, newspapers, even mail — anything he could possibly use to carry on his sick fantasies and his passion for committing them to paper; the request was granted, and were given precedence over any rules and regulations of the institution where was incarcerated. I hope and pray WOBO gets this same caveat attached when she is sentenced.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 12:38 am

      Yep, but I wonder if she is aware that all of the pictures that she has already sold are counted as income that by law is reportable to the IRS – but I guess that’s a moot point now.

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 12:46 am

        That would be a federal crime and we do NOT want her going to Club Fed! She needs to stay under Arpaio!

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 12:43 am

      OMG! Schaeffer! WOW! BTK…forgot about that one but the memories are flooding back in while I read this. Wow! That was one sick SOB!!! And if JA is sentenced and can’t have pen/pencil/paper that will kill her! She might volunteer for the needle at that point. And I will gladly oblige her request.

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:44 am

      ooooh that would be REAL punishment if that ruling came down. OMG she would HATE that!!!

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 1:27 am

        When I couldn’t sleep last night I was thinking about after she leaves the jail and is in prison & death row of putting her on all the the mailing lists for all the big artist supply warehouses: Jerry’s Artorama, Dick Blick Art Supply, Pearl Paint, etc. She will dehydrate, die and turn to dust because she’ll be drooling for all the awesome goodies she will never get her hands on. Maybe Nikon, Canon, Sony, Adobe, Apple catalogs too. The catalogue from B&H Photo and Video is a another good one. When it arrives my husband used to always say “your wish-book came in the mail”. Let her drool over that and know she can’t have anything in it.

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 12:57 am

      I’m thinking that the seizure of personal property (journals) came one of three ways: Either she had more of a type of property than she was allowed to have; or the jail reviewed her non-legal material for evidence of gang affiliation, etc. (normal); or the jail received word that she was having/conducting inappropriate correspondence beyond the fence (which would include criminal enterprise/witness tampering/victim harassment) I think in her case, because the journals are such a big deal, the prosecution wanted to see them before they were released to wherever she is directing excess property to (mommy?)

      If she receives the DP, the amount of personal property she can have will go way down, as a result of her custody level. The court could impose limitations beyond the state’s institutional rules, however (imprisoned) convicted felons argue those types of matters in federal court.

      I’m guessing the fine line here, with respect to sales of the “art”, is the result of the fact that we “know” she is not personally interacting with any online venues. Therefore, she is most likely gifting excess property to shills for that purpose….

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:07 am

        could it have anything to do with the hidden notes in the magazines…. hence a search of her cell?

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 1:13 am
      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 1:18 am

        Certainly – Jail staff would be constantly mindful of that, especially since she has tried to do it before – but property searches (shake downs) in detention facilities are an everyday part of life. The flow of contraband (drugs, cellphones, smokes, articles of clothing, material beyond pg-13) is unending, and its moved and exchanged constantly, so they must do searches constantly…

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 1:34 am

        Plus, they are scammers of every conceivable type out in this world – To tie it back to JA, you would have to investigate the identity of the seller, the money trail, and then, be able to prove that the “art” actually came from JA. It will take a “Ron Goldman” to keep JA from having any kind of success…

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 2:02 am

        I can not believe that the jail continues to allow her to speak daily with Donoman. Still selling her art, tweeting, what the heck is wrong with Arpaio?

    • 04/11/2013 at 9:08 am

      JA has already given plenty of reason for concern regarding her desire to be immortalized in writing. They absolutely need to confiscate any and all means of writing implements. If she’s desperate enough for ink, let her write on a napkin in her own blood. I’m so sick of her antics.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 9:16 am

      Oh good, Shaeffer is blue again.No dorito bag.

  72. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 12:41 am

    Jim :
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196005&page=9
    look about half way down this thread – think its the one you are after….

    Thanks for the link but no this one is a puzzle too but nothing like the other one.

  73. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 12:49 am

    Jim – my comment to you is in moderation but thanks for the link but no, that one is a puzzle too but nothing like how the other strikes me.

  74. Jay
    04/11/2013 at 12:55 am

    Un oh.. The new defense witness has been revealed. This could be bad news for the prosecution – a foremost authority in his field!

    Here’s a link Showing him in action. If you think JM had a hard time getting a straight forward answer from ALV, this expert witness may prove to be even more difficult!

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=RHlLmYVCzKY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRHlLmYVCzKY

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 1:12 am

      Lol!

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 1:17 am

      Hysterical, and I felt a tug of nostalgia- I loved that show!

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 1:42 am

        Ditto FOL! Jay really had me going there – until the link opened!

    • Trial watcher
      04/11/2013 at 1:30 am

      Hey Jay, Juan can handle him!!!

    • Trial watcher
      04/11/2013 at 1:43 am

      RIGHT ON!!!

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:16 am

      It’s Dr Dodgy’s Dad!!!! OMFG!!!!

    • 04/11/2013 at 9:12 am

      So so funny!!!! I’m showing my age now, but that clip is from a time when they really understood great humor!!!

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/11/2013 at 11:01 am

      Very funny. I almost had a heart attack thinking you were serious.

  75. 04/11/2013 at 1:00 am

    NancyB :
    YES YES YES!! thank you but it’s so blurry in this video sequence. He’s looking to the side like he was just surprised and a look of “Oh F*** on his face. It’s haunting to me.

    At the very least he sure looks miffed. It’s so hard to tell if he is saying something or it’s an expression or what.

    The thing is… considering she is an experienced phtographer don’t all the shots except maybe his last face shot, look like they are taken without care at all? As if she is just going through the motions so to speak. I think that is very telling too. She just wanted the shots then him on the floor she didn’t care about focus, light or anything. Really bad shots.. maybe it’s cos they had to be retrieved after deletion or maybe that’s how she took them.

    If it’s how she took them… then it’s clear her agenda was not a “photo shoot”

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:13 am

      also Nancy… assuming these aren’t telephoto and are deliberate poses (which I am) remember she must have cajoled and cajoled and annoyed and whinged and whined ad infinitum to get him to agree to these.

      1. He liked to shower in private
      2. He never wanted to be photographed in the shower.

      Apparently he blogged about this. I’ve yet to see the actual blog of it, I’d love to read exactly what he says about it. Further reason why she did this I am guessing. I’m guessing it’s the type of thing Chris Stark would have twittered about.

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 1:15 am

      I think she was having him pose because she was trying to figure out which pose made him the most vulnerable to attack and she finally decided to have him sit because he couldn’t get back up easily.

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:21 am

        LisaM…. if that was the case she would have got him in the back IMHO… he’s very vulnerable then….plus Im thinking they are psycho movie stills.

        You know her seemingly obsessive penchant for movie association. The poses mirror the psycho scene ones. Too coincidental and too in line with her psychopathology to dismiss as lucky happenstance for my liking.

        Those poses from psycho end with the body in the base of the shower too.

      • 04/11/2013 at 9:24 am

        Syn is right on. HLN showed a brilliantly chilling analysis of all the comparisons of the movie Psycho and Ja’s premeditated murder of Travis. Maybe someone can find that video and post it. I think they showed it on Tuesday evening.

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 1:30 am

      Hi Syn- my gut instinct on that close up pic of Travis’s face (the last one where he is for certain alive) has always been that he was under duress, he looks worried, at the very least. In my “JA is so unlucky” post a few days ago- I said that for someone who had photography as a “passion”, they’re some of the poorest quality pics I’ve seen since people used “instamatic” cameras. They’re dark, unfocused, blurry… Some look as though they were taken with a zoom lens, IMHO.

      The one where he’s sitting (legs crossed)… Yeah, I don’t get it! What 180+lb man squats down in a very small shower stall? I just can’t make sense out of that concept.

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:47 am

        Family, I am with yout but I think all the poses are deliberate the chances of randomly standing in the shower in poses identical to psycho, not to mention a lot being unnatural shower poses.. are slim to zero.

        Having said that I really REALLY want to know how she weedled her way into getting him to sit down, maybe not attacking him on the back shots somehow made him feel too comfortable with following her demonic instructions. Must have been to do with the face shot cos that’s the same position as the seated shot just the torso of it.

        Plus she was close.. that’s the only lighted shot.. I believe that is when she struck and all subsequent photos are incidental to the positioning of the camera during the attack. Including the seated one. Taken just moments before the blood came out of his chest.

      • Jay
        04/11/2013 at 9:30 am

        TA scrunched up like that bothers me too. maybe I’ve been watching too many CSI tv shows, but was the ME able to determine if Travis could have been drugged prior to the attack with that much body deterioration? His expression in that photo looks somewhat dazed.. And if he was drugged it would have made him less able to defend himself against a knife attack

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 1:32 am

      Totally agree – blurry and crappy set of photos. No way it was a special photo shoot. It was a calculated slaughter -period.

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 1:37 am

        Nancy- just read your RN’s perspective of the gunshot upstairs- thank you for giving your experienced opinion- that solidified it for me.

    • 04/11/2013 at 9:20 am

      I noticed that too, but was wondering if that is when she was starting to get crazy with frenzy and just wanted to kill him.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 9:26 am

      NancyB :
      YES YES YES!! thank you but it’s so blurry in this video sequence. He’s looking to the side like he was just surprised and a look of “Oh F*** on his face. It’s haunting to me.

      I dunno. I instinctively thought this way. Then Syntara sent me to the Psyco stills and the Ninja movie and then I started to accept that the wobo really was THAT devilish. But another part keeps saying the only time Travis knew he was being photographed wwere in the penultimate shot of his life, he seems to “notice” her and then in his final ‘alive’ picture, he’s staring at her with a look that is a combo of confusion and fear which an earlier link to a shrink’s page illustrated. when she “doubled” each side of the face.. These two shower pics remindme of the ones with him on the bed-the first he’s resting and doesn’t see her; the second one, he sees her and reacts.
      I also tend to think that the pic of his lower half has been inadvertently taken a,fraction o a second after stabbing him in the chest. I think she shot him because what was left of him would not stop moving.
      Poor guy’s last hours were filled with trying to get away from but seeing when he tried – the devil herself.

  76. hottopic08
    04/11/2013 at 1:12 am

    JA getting out tweets from jail through Donavan Bering? If this is happening it’s outrageous!

    “A Fox 10 Exclusive – PHOENIX – Jodi Arias is at the center of one of the highest profile murder trials the valley has ever seen. And now she’s tweeting from behind bars. FOX 10 News has learned that Jodi Arias is operating her own Twitter page from jail, communicating with hundreds of followers — mocking the prosecutor ”

    http://t.co/Fjie7yfzn7

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 1:22 am

      I saw video on HLN of the MS taking a note from JA and casually slipping it mommy – this would be the deputy’s fault – every movement she makes is his responsibility – and he is now sitting on the other side of the room…

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 1:40 am

        I know!! In the beginning of the trial he stationed him/herself right behind her or up against the wall. It’s pathetic – I’ve seen views of him nearly snoozing. It’s gotten so loosey goosey that when she needed a bathroom break the other day she walked unescorted through the door!!!

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 1:41 am

        The deputy has been bewildered by JA, that fool has missed her slipping notes to the mamma and the “He/She”- I believe that JM brought that up in the judge’s chambers last week-

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 1:42 am

        Damn auto correct- “bewitched”.

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 1:46 am

        If she touches that cellphone that Wilnot keeps leaving on the table – he is a fired f^ck…

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 9:30 am

        Still thinking of ways to get to the deputy and make him watch for these things! When he does, we want him to zap the wobo
        into a count of 8 mississippi’s while we imagine her 62 seconds of evil

      • 04/11/2013 at 9:34 am

        Well, that’s not the first time the JoHole’s been caught being sneaky. Remember a few weeks ago when she was caught sliding an entire notebook off the table and slipping under her butt?!

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 2:04 am

      Thanks for posting this. I am just in shock! What kind of crap? Can’t the jail suspend her daily phone calls?

    • 04/11/2013 at 9:30 am

      If that she/man is assisting Joho, it needs to be arrested! But what quarters will they put MaDonnavan in?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 10:31 am

        ROFLAO. (something aboutthe variants on names gets me every time)

  77. Douglme
    04/11/2013 at 1:17 am

    Jim :
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196005&page=9
    look about half way down this thread – think its the one you are after….

    One thing that bothers me about this photo is that it looks like the shower door is closed in this picture as you can see water droplets on something and it appears to be the glass shower door???

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 9:33 am

      I ‘ve always ‘seen’ the showers pics as being taken with shower door closed, except for the last two- him looking and him slumping when the door is opened. The ‘drops’ of water I thought were on lens or his face.

  78. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 1:35 am

    Syntara :
    also Nancy… assuming these aren’t telephoto and are deliberate poses (which I am) remember she must have cajoled and cajoled and annoyed and whinged and whined ad \
    1. He liked to shower in private
    2. He never wanted to be photographed in the shower.
    Apparently he blogged about this. I’ve yet to see the actual blog of it, I’d love to read exactly what he says about it. Further reason why she did this I am guessing. I’m guessing it’s the type of thing Chris Stark would have twittered about.

    I never knew he blogged about it. I’ll have to check for that later – I also answered you upstairs at #256

  79. 04/11/2013 at 1:52 am

    NancyB :
    When I couldn’t sleep last night I was thinking about after she leaves the jail and is in prison; death row of putting her on all the the mailing lists for all the big artist supply warehouses:

    Also thinking a website should be made and anyone in the world living or going to any of the 1000 places take a big photo of Travis and get one from each place sent to her one by one over time.

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:58 am

      meant have a big photo of Travis with them… and get a photo of him there to send to her. Don’t think first rendition was clear! At least symbolically he then gets to go to all 1000 places.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 2:08 am

      Thanks – you just gave me a big chuckle and still smiling! Love this idea.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 9:38 am

      I LOVE this idea! Maybe we can start a charity that raises money for victims families at times of a trial, and have a”lottery” that sends the winner each time we do it, to one of the places to be seen photgraphed with Travis!! Then we make sure the wobo sees it in jail.We always enclose a pic with a small card saying “living well is the best revenge”

  80. Jim
    04/11/2013 at 1:53 am

    Later Syn, Everybody – my “trained brain” is drained… 🙂

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:57 am

      night JIm!!!!! ttfn see you tomorrow

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 2:07 am

      Rest your trained brain, we’ll all need you well rested for tomorrow:)

  81. 04/11/2013 at 2:03 am

    NancyB :
    I know!! In the beginning of the trial he stationed him/herself right behind her or up against the wall. It’s pathetic – I’ve seen views of him nearly snoozing. It’s gotten so loosey goosey that when she needed a bathroom break the other day she walked unescorted through the door!!!

    and you can bet she hid somehing in there.. who has access to those after trial??

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:06 am

      also that cell phone.. how do we know she isn’t being txted on that? that phone should not be there.. and what was under that sweater thing she had on one arm… I know there was something she was doing under that. That was too weird and obviously devious.

      • Schaeffer
        04/11/2013 at 1:04 pm

        I saw that sweater or whatever it was on her arm. Anybody know what was up with that? I wasn’t listening during re-direct, so I just happened to catch a glimpse of it, then it was gone. You’re right — obviously devious. The guard is falling down on the job.

  82. Family of Law
    04/11/2013 at 2:05 am

    Syntara :
    Family, I am with yout but I think all the poses are deliberate the chances of randomly standing in the shower in poses identical to psycho, not to mention a lot being unnatural shower poses.. are slim to zero.
    Having said that I really REALLY want to know how she weedled her way into getting him to sit down, maybe not attacking him on the back shots somehow made him feel too comfortable with following her demonic instructions. Must have been to do with the face shot cos that’s the same position as the seated shot just the torso of it.
    Plus she was close.. that’s the only lighted shot.. I believe that is when she struck and all subsequent photos are incidental to the positioning of the camera during the attack. Including the seated one. Taken just moments before the blood came out of his chest.

    The “Psycho” similarities are bone chilling- I really think you have something there! I too REALLY want to know how she manipulated him into that vulnerable sitting position- I wondered if that’s what the gun was originally used for, but then I think… If I were a 180+ lb man, and a girl was holding a “pea shooter gun” on me, chances are, I’d lunge at her “like a linebacker” and shove that gun up her “snatch all”. So, I have no idea how she manipulated him to do any of those poses? Especially given his shower time being what he considered almost sacred, certainly private time for him.

    I fantasize about injecting her with sodium Pentothal and making her tell the f#**ing truth!

  83. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 2:05 am

    Syn, I’m going to sleep. night to all. *waves*

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:22 am

      night Nancy 🙂 cya soon!! **waves**

  84. Anna
    04/11/2013 at 2:13 am

    ANNA UNHINGED (wait, isn’t that an oxysomething?) (oh yeah, moron) (oh yeah, and beware of punctuation gone wild, lol)
    And fair warning, ’round the complete Looney bin I go cuz I’m not entirely sure I haven’t already posted this first part before, hence the reason I’m initially in brackets. I have absolutely no system whatsoever for keeping track of my stupid word processor rant draftings…but you’ll be relieved to know I loose at least half of them. Ok, so here’s maybe already posted Anna spew, tho prob heavily re-worded by now, but still meant (does that count?):
    [No offense to donchais or any one here, and in fact just the opposite…I thank you for making me realize I’m gonna need a bigger blog……that effin’ shark’s a great white and it’s about 25 feet long. And as fake as it looks, it’s coming at us for real. Ever heard the analogy of a heard of elephants in your living room? Well, just imagine how hard it is to get around & function as normal; and then imagine the smell. And it’s REAL tough to clean up, too. Like industrial strength something needed. I have no doubt that many here can relate to that basic concept. And from what I’ve read, you can relate to it like I can’t even imagine. That story of ‘I met a man without feet when I thought not having shoes was a bitch.’ Yeah, that. It’s just that now I feel like I really don’t have any feet.]
    Well, that was that. Had to (re)release into the www for all eternity, apparently. And please excuse my foaming mouth today in the over 1000 comment section in donchais’ other back yard (how many does she have btw?). I felt warm here in the company of fellow-foamers, but still. Need myself some mouthwash. And can we please get a clean-up on aisle anna?
    p.s. Jim, I’m SO glad I found this before we had to move next door (at least we didn’t have to sit in the corner for a time out!!): “pattern added.” Thanks dude! 🙂 I had myself a lovely bonfire of the insanities with my old-fashioned patterns tonight!!! ack and double ack, and hairball as well. Snap. Chrissie I love you girl. I sincerely sense such a wonderful spirit about you, and tho I’m still extremely JEALOUS, yes, I finally admitted it but everyone knows, of your mad skills, if you ever come across catmail, I’m in with every purr in my heart sista!!!! 🙂 Should that be my last wet-puppy look? I can stop. I swear.
    [[management: could someone please get the hook cane and relieve anna of her perceived center stage, or whatever trip she’s currently on?! And tell her to get own blog like yesterday already, iykwim!!]]
    Hey, who said that? Well anyway, could someone please tell me exactly where I can purchase a good quality, highly effective alternate reality? I’m not interested in the satisfied-pre-med-murderer’s filthy, sticky, and smelly dime-store versionuu (gosh, I’m purposefully contaminating words now. That’s wrong on levels I haven’t even heard about yet, but no doubt will soon.) Anyhoo, I want the Neiman-Marcus variety. Thanks in advance cuz all the other stuff isn’t working anymore!)
    [I know this part is ancient as I…but I just found it on my cluttered processor desk and had to possibly repost…it was obviously trying to be at the end of something….ack yet again] “One, one more, I swear….MMD, you need to see the old movie “What’s Up Doc.” Please…I ordered mine on Amazon. Plaid baby. Plaid.” But seriously, take good care out there, nice lady! 🙂 Rebuttal is coming. And nothing can stop a Juan on a mission.
    Please nevermind the scrambled-Anna & bacon burrito splat here. (but so you know, bacon IS a vegetable, damn it.) Back to music therapy for now. Hugs & best dreams to all; and most of all thank you Mom for having so many playgrounds, I can’t even believe (I’ll have to read you’re re-cap tomorrow as my tummy muscles can’t handle any more funny truth right now!). And as always, JUSTICE FOR TRAVIS! Night guys.

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:22 am

      Im PMLing and I’ve only read the intro!!!

      • Anonymous
        04/11/2013 at 3:37 am

        noooo…..I wants me a blog o my own…..have one that’s a shell of it’s former self that I’d like to start up again….that’s all.

      • Anna
        04/11/2013 at 3:44 am

        nooooo…..i’m just wanting to dust off and re-open an old blog I once ranted on years ago….prob 100% possibility that’s happening soon. I loved it there, but I gotta be careful…..I gotta beware…..;) It’s a mad, mad, mad, mad okay you get it. Luv ya.

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:31 am

      LOL…. she where’s your blog????

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:32 am

        shee wtf???? Soooo where’s your blog??

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 2:34 am

      Oh Crap! Now Anna appears…I have to read this one…(Dang you! And I will NEVER EVER turn down a piece of fried chicken made by you…Ref: previous thread. Shamefully I’m still trying to get up to speed. Doubt that’s gonna happen at this read…going back in to read your post.

      • Anna
        04/11/2013 at 3:48 am

        Well that’s great, now I have to recover from this post before I even begin to read your epic seizure below….goin’ in! 🙂
        Oh, and just so we’re totes clear….I do not cook my own fried chicken. I’m not qualified. But I do happen to know the best place in town! 🙂 other things i can cook and some people pretend pretty well to like it. I love them.

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 2:46 am

      Ummm…Anna??? WTH?? You crack me up every time, Love!!!! I’m laughing hysterically right now. But I must ask…what peyote are you smoking now? Please share…we all need some Honey. You are so GD funny I just can’t get over it. You HAVE to be on something…or is it just this trial???

      Good Lawd! Still reading.,…and laughing….

      • Anna
        04/11/2013 at 4:01 am

        Hey, I can’t sleep but I did check back in, thank gawd….! I cannot believe I managed to seemingly violate an actual Chrissie-ism, “So nice of you to dump & run without wiping.” That really pisses me off. Now I’m really not sleeping (no worries….had TONS of sleep last night, yippee). Where is Chrissie’s missive, btw? Lost on my processor desk, I guess…or are you hiding key evidence Miss Tracey A Poster?
        And btw, why didn’t I think of peyote???? Do you happen to know if Neiman’s makes their own brand? If only it was that easy right? Wait- is it that easy? lol 🙂 you are so funny yourself, but please all else, ignore the Texas bonding thing going on here…can’t help it…from the south….have big mouth…well, I can’t speak for Trace…. but well…

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 2:52 am

      OMG! You are so freakin’ funny. What are we to do with you. Just pass the peyote!!! My word! I;m gonna be dreamin’ about this post tonite. How the hell am I supposed to go to bed on this rant??? As Chrissie would say “So nice of you to dump and run without wiping!!!” That’s not fair. Uh oh! Just woke the BF up with my laughing. I’m in trouble now. LMAO! I’ll catch ya on the other side. You kill me Girl!

      • Anna
        04/11/2013 at 3:50 am

        wait, you went to bed,,,,,after all that….okay….brb

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 8:07 am

      Darlin’ just for you I have ordered What’s up Doc from Amazon.ca. 🙂 Will be here Monday. I assumed that since there is court today and tomorrow and I’ll need sooooooooooooooooo much time to recover from ALV that it was ok not to order it Priority so I would have it tomorrow plus I’m totally against, on principle, of EVER paying for shipping!!!!!

      • Crystal Harris
        04/11/2013 at 11:25 am

        Amazon Prime will change your life and the way you shop and buy things. Free 2 day shipping on everything!! Check it out! 🙂

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 11:12 am

      Anna – Your stream of consciousness is a delight! You are truly one of a kind. Enjoyed reading very much, too.

  85. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 2:31 am

    NancyB :
    Totally agree with you Tracey!

    Thanks Sweetie! But you and Syn called it. I can’t get over that bullet casing. Your experience set me straight. TG for all like you with that kind of training. That casing tells a huge story.

  86. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 3:07 am

    Nite all!!! Gotta catch some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz’s. See ya all for trial tomorrow. BTW – I thought that the Perkster was gonna wind it up today until the recess was called ***fingers crossed**** that she’s only up for less than an hour tomorrow.

  87. 04/11/2013 at 5:05 am

    quick drop in.

    Had a thought. The defense motion to obtain the journal entries from the prosecition

    Could that be the manifesto?

    Thoughts?

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 8:54 am

      That’s a real probability – I can’t see them using the word “manifesto” on the motion…

  88. 04/11/2013 at 6:09 am

    OK.. just saw an online clip of the new HLN theory where the gunshot is first. What it comes down to is did the bullet hit his brain? The ME who did the autopsy said it did…. but couldn’t confirm how much bleeding was in the brain, unfortunately, because his body wasn’t found soon enough and the brain was basically liquified.

    However, he did the autopsy, he would have seen actual trajectory. So …….

    a) do you believe Dr Horn that he bullet passed through his brain

    b) do you believe others who say the bullet did not enter his brain and therefore he could still have fought back.

    Either way it’s still not self defense. …. and (b) does not explain the magic bullet casing.

    Personally I’m still siding with Dr Horn, he did the autopsy. …. but I can now see where the other theory comes in. If his brain wasn’t hit then it’s possible. But…

    1. She wouldn’t have needed him on the shower floor to shoot him.
    2. How did she get the knife in his heart if the stab wound to the chest didn’t come first?

    Almost all other attacks were in his back. I don’t see where she had the opportunity to stick the knife in the middle of his chest if it wasn’t first. (Open for discussion.)

    Anyhow……. I guess on appeal the people offering this theory could be called by the defense … But it still doesn’t help the defense if they stick to the current story because where she says the gun was… it obviously wasn’t…. and if she shot him in the shower.. well bang goes the running for the gun story. (pardon the pun).

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 9:23 am

      I’m sticking with Dr. Horn and the evidence. Stabs first, slit throat second and shot because of death gurgles. That’s my theory and I’m sticking with it and paying NOOOOOOO attention to HLN. They have to fill the hours somehow. You’re truly lucky SYN that you don’t get the channel! They spend more time telling you that you’re not going to miss a minute of testiphony and that they’re hitting the pause button than anything else!!!

      Good late Thursday to ya darlin’! 😉

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 9:47 am

        MMD: me, you and the ME. together. on this. A menage a trois of induction seduction.

      • Nancy Pennington
        04/11/2013 at 11:40 am

        I agree with you (and the adorable ME) about the sequence of the injuries (always have). It is what makes perfect sense. I think after Det Flores said the gunshot came first she concocted her story about the gun. She also NEVER went in the closet!!
        And then about HLN, I scream at my TV every time Mike Galanos pushes that damn pause button and has to tell us what we just heard in court then comes back after the “short” break “to pay the bills” AND then has to tell us again what we just heard in court or explain what’s going on like we are so stupid we don’t know what we just heard or don’t understand what we just heard. “Ma’am are you finished?” Yes Mr. Martinez”. LOL at myself

      • 04/11/2013 at 11:42 am

        Robert ahem did I not say: “Personally I’m still siding with Dr Horn”?? Does that not make 4? Robert Robert Robert!!! Not up to your usual standard! 😛

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 12:07 pm

      Syntara :

      OK.. just saw an online clip of the new HLN theory where the gunshot is first. What it comes down to is did the bullet hit his brain? The ME who did the autopsy said it did…. but couldn’t confirm how much bleeding was in the brain, unfortunately, because his body wasn’t found soon enough and the brain was basically liquified.
      However, he did the autopsy, he would have seen actual trajectory. So …….
      a) do you believe Dr Horn that he bullet passed through his brain
      b) do you believe others who say the bullet did not enter his brain and therefore he could still have fought back.
      Either way it’s still not self defense. …. and (b) does not explain the magic bullet casing. Snipped for space

      If you listen to the cross by JW of Dr Horn’s court testimony, he leaves NO doubt that the bullet entered the frontal lobe of the brain which is called a penetrating GSW. The entry wound alone is proof of that. Travis definitely suffered an intracranial gunshot wound.
      Dr. Horn explained that the brain, in a person of Travis’ age, entirely fills the entire skull cavity and lies just millimeters from the forehead portion of the skull vault. That’s why in traumatic head injuries you sometimes hear of neurosurgeons doing a decompressive craniectomy (called a bone flap) procedure in which part of the skull is removed to allow a swelling brain room to expand without being squeezed. There is always a large amount of brain swelling with GSW’s which is a traumatic brain injury. This swelling directly increases the intracranial pressure which if not immediately treated will result in permanent damage to vital brain functions and lead to herniation of the brain stem which causes immediate death. This procedure got a lot of media attention after Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford’s near-fatal shooting.

  89. md_6953@hotmail.com
    04/11/2013 at 7:12 am

    Hi Everyone…Donchasis….thank your for your reporting….what is your gut feeling about this cross with wilma? Do you feel that Juan’s opening up so many doors will continue to be opened and that the jury is believing him. Hope I’m being clear….had such a difficult time listening to wilma mock our main man Juan. Thank you.

    • donchais
      04/11/2013 at 7:54 am

      I believe the jury is right there with Juan.

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 8:15 am

        Morning donchais. 🙂 I had to take a break last night after ALV. Simply would not allow myself to be abused by her any longer!!!! My heart breaks for the Alexanders having to sit and listen to such a piece of crap especially combined with Gidget!!! Just get to the jury questions and end this entire re-slaughter of TA and his family!!! I KNOW the jury, if they have an ounce of common sense, are feeling the same way. JM has them in the palm of his hand but the defense lost them long ago.

  90. 04/11/2013 at 8:16 am

    Syn~~JA made the statement that Travis did not want anyone in the bathroom when he showered. That was his own time. She did say that he let her take the picture of him shaving but she never went in any other time. This was during one of her interrogations with Det. Flores.

    • 04/11/2013 at 8:25 am

      How rude of me!!!~Good morning to you trying to catch up on last nite’s posts. Lots of good stuff.

  91. 04/11/2013 at 8:30 am

    Haven’t posted in a while and I just have to rant. Can’t stand the shit that is so visible. Excuse the language, but that is not what I really have in mind. The scum defense reads these blogs constantly and now I believe they are purposely baiting all of us – the a-holes.

    The psycho gets to smirk and giggle while poor Alexander’s family are in tears. This is beyond disrespectful not only to the FAMILY, but the entire court system. What the hell is Stephens thinking? NOT! She can see this and surely gets reports on it. Get some ballzzz Judge and stop this fiasco. The CA trial was beyond, but this the utmost mockery to the Alexanders, devout followers and to Juan, who has put his life on hold to bring justice for TRAVIS, while the DT drags this out and robs the citizens of Arizona millions of $$$.

    I have been following this right along with all of you and so appalled at this whole court shenanigans going on. Can’t believe JW mouthing, nodding constantly to AL – even though Juan made it quite obvious, and it still continues. WTF is going on. The dufus sits there, actually almost lays there like he’s watching a baseball game, while psycho and buddy chit-chat, snuggle up to each other as if they’re in some “pre-school dance center.” This all goes on in front of Stephens. If we can see it, she gets a full view. And not to pounce on “potty lady” for speaking to Juan until he makes a mention, is beyond pathetic. NEVER seen such bs in a courtroom. Well, OJ’s trial had quite the drama, but this is way too much – JMFO.

    The bailiff should be sitting next to the Psycho not sleeping in the back. What’s with the wrapping of the jacket around the front of her yesterday and then constantly looking in her lap. Wished I had tagged the day that she had something in her lap for the longest time, looking down and I believe it was her journal – not sure, but she was flipping papers on her lap. Believe law allows defendants have the “right” to their junk. JW & Nurmi are just loving this all over the media. Scumbags!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hottopic08-#284-Above – Fox 10 reported now psycho is tweeting through boy/girl inmate and nothing can be done about it according to Maricopa authorities – she’s bashing Juan, NG and making cocky comments. She is not a convicted criminal as of yet. Go figure. What are Travis’ rights? Hopefully, AL will be done today with her insults to the Alexanders and his beloved followers. Juan will get this back on track with rebuttal. Love the guy and Det. Flores is also a sweetie.

    Donchais did clarify above how Juan and the Judge are “on the same page” as far as letting things go as not to create more problems, but come on . . . enough is enough!!!

    Did hear last night on HLN (I know) that the last DT witness is something about “Last known recording from Travis.” They didn’t elaborate, they’re not sure. I just hope Juan has something explosive to blow the DT and psycho right out of their minds.The Pro computer forensics should have some telling tales, that broken computer maybe? – AL pay attention – you may learn how to lie better.

    Didn’t psycho tell Samuels the same thing about the gun in the closet as did to AL? Or am I just getting confused with the back and forth? Loved Juan’s ending with the gun situation and then “where was the knife?” – AL replied on the nightstand, told to her by JA. The fog has definitely been lifted on this one. Memory- b.s. Let’s see how JW squirms out of this one – more lies for sure.

    OK, feel better! Think I should write more often – to let out some frustration. I apologize if things are dupes from others, misspells or just don’t make sense.

    Donchais – TY, as usual, you’re great. To all of you here, you keep me sane knowing that I am not the only one following this case so passionately.

    Getting ready for another round of AL & Wilmont – please be the end. Yeah, right – then we get the cross from jury Q’s. They should be good (the Q’s.).

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 9:16 am

      Atta go Jessi! 🙂 It’s bad enough what’s happening it’s even worse if you let it fester inside you so rant away!!! I know that I have done my fair share and donchais has always indulged me, thankfully!!!

      Let’s just hope for our collective sanity that Gidget finishes up early today and get to the jury questions cause they are going to be doozies!!!

      Glad to see ya back Jessi! 🙂

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 9:50 am

      wow. stop by and comment more; you’re on th esame rantwave as many of us.

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 10:02 am

      You said it! And yes, it’s therapeutic to get that down in print, and let it fly:) Well done!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 10:03 am

      Loved Juan’s ending with the gun situation and then “where was the knife?” – AL replied on the nightstand, told to her by JA.

      Yeah. I wondered whether La Keynot was “old fashioned” when it came to some s&m. When wobo scammed her into the “knife on the nightstand” bit, she probably accepted wobo’s description of how people – when they tie partners up in bed – always have to bring a fukin knife to the bedroom because they have to cut the “rope” that they are using.

      LaGasbag starts to imagine all this rope cutting. Afterwards she calls Doc Dodgy to learn more. HE tells her that her arms “and legs” were tied and that sends her off into another old-fashioned swing since wobe told her just the arms, and she had been trying to figure why and how and–for WHAT PURPOSE these things were done anyway!

      She didn’t think it was a “big deal” because in the context of the “big picture” a knife here or there,; different stories of being tied up – doesn’t affect what my main goal was, which was to establish that there is ALWAYS domestic”violence”. See how he “tied her up”? Thats what they do to slaves! and prisoners!

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 11:32 am

      I also remember Samuels giving an interview where he said Jodi told him she shot Travis in the closet. Then he corrected himself on the witness stand. Bottom line is that Jodi’s story is inconsistent every time she tells it…even when she testified on the stand she told different versions. That is horrible for her case.

  92. 04/11/2013 at 8:34 am

    Anna~~ it is 5.40amy time and catching up on earlier posts. You are an absolute hoot!!! Thanks for your humor first thing in the morning.

    ;>)

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 9:17 am

      Morning Vickee – WTH are ya doing up in the middle of the night????? 😉

  93. Jo
    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 9:38 am

      This article had a lot of surface foam on it… It’s a shame it did not highlight that many, many of the Amazon reviews were from victims/survivors who feel betrayed and/or minimized because this hack’s work has been elevated…

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 9:42 am

        Exactly Jim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 9:41 am

      Just read it Jo. I can’t speak for everyone but I know I am angry at her testiphony. Speaking from past experience, I feel fully justified in my opinion of her because she is truly causing harm to those who have, are or will experience true domestic abuse. I’m not on twitter or facebook and would never call her office but I am entitled to my opinion and if Michael Kiefer doesn’t like it or thinks that I am part of lynch mob mentality, then too bad!!!

      • katz63md
        04/11/2013 at 9:53 am

        MMD, you should send that exact statement to USAToday. They are looking at this with a biased view. What ever happened to the media presenting all sides in a non-biased viewpoint. They do a tirade on regular citizens about their viewpoints that may/do have a bias and yet they do not do anything different. They didn’t say anything about the fact that she had based her viewpoint of Travis on JA lies, never spoke to any of the people who she claimed were vulnerable. This, in of itself, is why I believe that everything that ALV has said on the stand is a lie. There is no way in this world that she can speak for the victims if she can’t figure out who is the victim!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 10:08 am

      She’s got a PR firm working for her. THIS is what she always wanted to be the center of attention (for 15 min) in her “field”. I could not read beyond the caption where it says “she held her own” against the prosecutor.
      Yeah. She certainly held her own career in her hand and it cracked before her; she was held in contempt by millions of people for the vulgar intrusion into the victims family; and held up for almost hilarious ridicule by a cross examiner who knew her field better than she did. Yeah To the USA TOdaty readers:. She “held on” is more like it .

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 10:19 am

        🙂

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 1:52 pm

        You have nailed it! This is what Baez & Co. also did, though it wasn’t definitively proven until after trial.

    • 04/11/2013 at 11:37 am

      what a load of spin. Typical of this trashy media outlet.

    • truejustice
      04/11/2013 at 1:03 pm

      Noticeably missing was the fact that there are also sights in support of JA – who trash Juan Martinez , Dr. Horn, and anyone who has testified on the behalf of the prosecution. Not to mention the family, friends, co-workers and anyone who thinks TA is a victim. I’ve looked at a couple of those sights and they get down right nasty.

      Just sayin… one sided as can be.

    • NapaNonnie
      04/11/2013 at 1:07 pm

      I think Mr Kiefer who wrote the article may be confused about this statement. “Some of it lapses into obscenity, such as the tweeter who uses a screen-grab photo of Arias’ nether regions as an Avatar.” It’s probably just a picture of an open 2 door garage. I can understand the confusion, the 2 look very similar. I’ve had 3 children. The last one weighed 9 lb 13 oz and I wasn’t left with a bottomless pit with flapping beef curtains like WOBO had at 27.

  94. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 9:26 am

    chris stark ‏@stark3923 5h
    ALYCE LaViolette the countless angry phone calls = stress of harassment caused Alyce 2go2 emergency room for anxiety attacks n palpitation

    This apparently happened over the weekend. I truly can’t say that I feel bad – sorry if that makes me a bad person.

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 9:57 am

      G’morning MMD:) I saw that tidbit of news to- I saw this article this a.m. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/11/jodi-arias-trial/2073067/
      I don’t feel badly, she sold her soul for a payday…

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:19 pm

        Interesting but not surprising that the main stream media makes no mention of ALV’s absurd and biased testiphony or that she has lied under oath, or that the defense atty’s only showed her “evidence” that was positive to their claims that their client was an abused woman who only acted in self defense. Of course no mention made of those facts or how insulted we all feel that she would sell out in support of a vicious killer who only fits the criteria to be considered an abused woman because ALV as their hired gun says so. Laughable tripe!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 10:16 am

      well if she had lossened up a bit when in her 20’s and 30’s ,she wouldn’t have an anxiety attack every time she was criticised.As if we couldn’t tell! I mean, she was so used to being the commander in chief of the “seminars” that she never even heard any whisper of a critique of her. Why she knows what EVERY MAN in her “group” thinks not only of Juan and Travis but of her as well! Who are these “twitters” and”email” people? She is a good, “old fashioned” Xpert. She is the HUMAN LIE DETECTOR. Who are these lower people, these crude and unwashed masses who dare to upset her “trained brain”?

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 10:18 am

        🙂

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/11/2013 at 11:04 am

      Well this does upset me. People phoning her, personally harassing her, to the point where she became ill? That is not appropriate behavior. It is mob mentality and anti-the American Way of justice. We have courtrooms and prosecutors and juries for a reason. Our criminal cases should and must be fought in the courtroom. Harassing a witness outside of the courtroom– no matter how exasperating that witness may be– is entirely inappropriate.
      She has made a fool of herself on the stand, with Juan’s help, and even on her own.
      It is one thing to express anger and shock about her opinions and behavior; it is yet another to actually harass her.
      If we are for justice, then we should be for justice, and proper justice/proper behavior.
      My opinion, but I am coming from a perspective of wanting the system to work.
      We don’t want people fearing coming to court to offer their testimony, even if we find that testimony to be a heap of insulting hogwash.
      Better for the State that someone so easily rattled and so full of it is the one to contend with than for the State to have to take on someone not-so-easily exposed as a biased apologist for the defendant.

      Paying her no mind/not attending her seminars/not purchasing whatever she is selling are all appropriate ways of sending a message to her.
      But phoning her and harassing her directly is childish and borderline criminal (depending on what it said/if threats are made).

      How would anyone here feel if Jodi supporters made such harassing phone calls to any of the state’s witnesses??
      My guess is that one and all would be incensed, if not furious, upon learning of such violative behavior.

      I hate to see things devolve like this.
      Alyce LaViolette is a biased witness, and the prosecutor has made that abundantly clear.
      Let’s hope he doesn’t end up having to prosecute someone who goes too far in a harassment campaign against this woman (or anyone else).

      We should not wish harm (in this case, a harassment-induced anxiety/panic attack) on anyone.
      We should wish only that their bias and lack of credibility be appropriately exposed to the jury such that no weight is accorded to her opinions in the case by the jury.

      ****
      Hopping off soapbox and ducking for anticipated incoming=(!

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 11:30 am

        Why would you even worry about incoming???? This is not that type of blog. I expressed my opinion on ALV and the MK article and you expressed your opinion about the mob mentality. As far as I’m concerned we agree. 🙂

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:48 pm

        Let’s be very careful here. How did this story make it’s way onto the news? Who would have leaked the information that “the barrage of cyberstalking was the subject of lengthy meetings in a judge’s chambers on Monday. It sent LaViolette to the emergency room last weekend.” Not the judge – not Juan. Let’s remember that the defense was directly responsible for previous (and patently false) widespread media reports that the defense was being targeted with death threats and required security to escort them to and from the court house. Baloney. I sent Donchais a picture of Nurmi & Maria (no security detail present) leisurely walking out the front door and past all the media trucks. Nurmi made a point of stopping to speak with some media outlets.

        The article claims of witness tampering are truly laughable. I’ve watched every moment of ALV’s testimony. JW is basically testifying for Alyce. I’ve never seen an attorney repeatedly use more leading questions and have it be allowed. Never seen an expert witness so unsure of her own testimony that she requires nearly moment to moment leading questions in order to answer. On cross, where yes/no questions are totally appropriate, this witness, considers herself too special to comply with basic rules and decorum of the court’s procedures. While there is nothing wrong with “just having dinner together” the photo taker states that they were continuously discussing the case so that she could hear all of what they were says.” That’s totally improper. From ALV’s testimony and many screen shots showing her trying to get the non verbal cues in open court from JW, it’s impossible not to conclude that the defense are communicating with their expert while she’s on the stand. Meanwhile, there is no mention in this defense leaked and media spinned article that coaching an expert witness is illegal.

      • Jay
        04/11/2013 at 1:01 pm

        Yes I agree, calling her private home phone or following (‘stalking’) her in public is harassment and shouldn’t be tolerated.

        But I’m OK with everything else — contacting her publisher, whoever is in charge of booking her speaking engagements, or anyone else who hires her — and especially any organization, public or private, who hires her as a domestic violence expert — to point out her obvious deficiencies with reality.

        And if Arias supporters did the same with an equally nonobjective State witness twisting testimony for the prosecution, I’d applaud them for pointing out his or her deficiencies too.

        I personally don’t think LaViolette agreed to testify for Arias for the money she’s being paid — but as an opportunity to justify her clinical domestic violence views, which have been under assault the past decade by numerous other domestic violence scientists and experts — namely her refusal to accept the burgeoning reports of heterosexual domestic violence against men.

        LaViolette and other ‘feminist based’ domestic violence counselors discard this data and ignore it, mostly because police statistics continue to show 80% to 90% of reported abuses are by men against women. But researchers point out cultural norms require men to be strong and not admit women, supposedly the weaker sex, have physically kicked their ass or otherwise intimidated them in a controlling fashion, and so they rarely call the cops when they’re getting the crap beaten out of them..

        This is born out by numerous studies that show men are FAR more less likely to verbalize fear of any kind, and if being berated or manipulated or stalked, they seldom report it. Studies also show “men and women engage in overall comparable levels of abuse and control, such as diminishing the partner’s self-esteem, isolation and jealousy.”

        That’s from a report from the California State University at Long Beach (isn’t that the institution that sponsors LaViolettes program?). In a study on Domestic Violence Gender they found that men and women assault one anther and strike the first blow at approximately equal rates, Other studies show that “men and women engage in overall comparable levels of abuse and control, such as diminishing the partner’s self-esteem, isolation and jealousy.”

        I was hoping Martinez would bring that up in testimony, but he didn’t go there. Or that LaViolette doesn’t see fit to treat male victims of domestic violence. During testimony she kept mentioning the ‘men’ in her program(s) – but those are perpetrators, not victims.

        I believe the core reason she took the case was to refute male victimization, and that’s why she has so steadfastly disregarded all the accumulated evidence of Travis Alexander’s victimization. And this clinical blindness of reality is a justifiable reason to hector and hound her on the internet and other public forums.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 1:06 pm

        Thanks, MMD. I wasn’t referring to you though;)

        Nancy B-
        It is not “illegal”–as you put it– for a party to discuss their case with and/or prepare their expert witnesses to testify. That is a part of what lawyers actually must do with their experts. The whole point of having experts testify is to “assist the tried of fact” to understand evidence that is beyond the “ken” (i.e. knowledge) of the “average layperson”.
        Don’t you think that Juan discussed the case/the defendant’s agnosis, etc with HIS rebuttal expert?
        Don’t you think he addressed issues he would like to highlight for the jurors??
        Don’t you think he consulted with her on his cross-examination outlines for Samuals and LaViolette??
        It isn’t “illegal”. It’s part of PREPARING FOR TRIAL.

        Lawyers are also in the boat of the “average layperson” on manymatters (until they learn them enough through repeated use of certain types of experts) and need the expert to help them come up with a way to present materials on the area of expertise to the jury. Experts can also assist counsel in the preparation of cross-examining the other party’s experts

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 1:14 pm

        Just one example, during cross on Monday & Tuesday, at times Alyce seemed stumped and began floundering a few times. JW immediately popped up with an objection that “It’s not a yes or no answer.” TELLING ALV that so she could then repeat, rinse, repeat…

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 1:16 pm

        I love your perspective, it brings me back to center when I stray!

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 1:19 pm

        Jay-
        Awesome post.
        I–among many others, I’m sure– was not aware of the professional response to LaViolette’s body of work as you set rth here.
        I, too, only wish that Juan had focused on this, because it is truly relevant to her obvious bias in favor of Jodi–and prejudice against Travis in this case.

        Amazing to me is that Juan didn’t spend even more time on the hand-cutting story variation, because by the time she spoke with LaViolette, she was already telling the “abuse” story/self-defense story.
        So why would she feel the need to tell YET ANOTHER LIE about how her fingers were cut AT THAT POINT?!
        Why keep making up lies about how her fingers were cut, and particularly to this woman who was specifically there to supposedly get the real story about the alleged abuse from her???
        That Jodi told yet another lie about how her fingers got cut to this woman should have been a HUGE red flag tot his woman. HUGE. Because if Jodi was illing to so boldly lie about

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 2:47 pm

        Jay-
        I am not finding that LaViolette ever entirely denied that males are also victims of domestic violence/abuse. I see her acknowledging it directly, in fact. What she seems to have been disputing was the claims (of a small minority) who claimed that men were victimized with the same frequency and intensity as females.

        This is most likely why Juan would not touch the topic during his cross-examination.

  95. GN5020
    04/11/2013 at 9:35 am

    I watched HLN’s late show last night where their “Jury” went to the reconstructed bathroom model and JA’s story was debated. Joey Jackson led the defense argument making a case that the entire killing did not necessarily have to occur within 62 seconds, but that the photo of TA in the shower could have been after he was shot. It will be interesting to see if Wilmott and Nurmi copy Joey’s points and strategy to their defense before resting, especially since the After Dark jury was split 8-to-4 that Jody’s story was impossible. Unfortunately, if the actual jury is anywhere close to their conclusions, we are looking at a hung jury. No justice for Travis’s family and another Casey Anthony moment for us all.

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 9:59 am

      Don’t take any stock in that After Dark jury show. They’re just looking at isolated aspects of the case and not the “big picture” as a certain “expert” would say.

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 10:16 am

        I so agree. I just watched the clip of the reenactment on CNN and was sorry I wasted the time. 😦

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 12:07 pm

        BTW, welcome back, GN5020! Haven’t seen you in a while.

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 12:23 pm

        Totally agree! That is such a stupid show – I equate it more akin to an upside down world game show. I do not even believe the so-called jury independently votes. They are all actors and following a script, imo. Not to mention that the majority of their so called (laughable) re-creations negate in total the forensic science and facts of this case.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 10:19 am

      I was gonna reply but saw Lisa wacked the mole.

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 12:08 pm

        🙂

    • 04/11/2013 at 11:31 am

      this makes no sense. Maybe I’m missing something but it sounds like the scenario given endeavours to start the clock with him sitting, shot in the shower? Am I reading that right? surely not? I say surely not because that’s laughable for so many reasons.

      GN5020 are you saying a jury 8-4 …. voted this was impossible? 4 people decided Travis attacked Jodi, she ran into the closet, grabbed a gun shot him, he ran back and sat in the shower all within a minute, without any blood on him. Meanwhile wobo runs to get a knife and still fearing for her life despite him now being seated in the shower, she continues to attack him?

      wth???????????? wobo IS a genius if 4 ppl thought this was a plausible scenario.

      Obviously there’s more to it than him already being shot in the shower because in relation to the self defense narrative currently given by wobo, that beyond ludicrous.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 11:39 am

        Syn-
        Jodi is no genius.
        The crappy HLN presenters are to blame. Seriously, they were pretty lousy.
        It isn’t a real court presentation. It’s faux entertainment crap.
        E LAWYERS MAKE THE MOST RIDICULOUS MISTATEMENTS OF THE EVIDENCE AT TIMES.
        They should be ashamed of themselves with the nonsense they offer up in that show every night.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 11:45 am

        Also– and this is really KEY, folks:
        The STATE does NOT have to PROVE, in court, precisely HOW she killed him.
        The state need only prove that she UNLAWFULLY KILLED HIM to prove homocide (and that she PLANNED it in order to prove Murder 1).
        Not “how?”
        Not “why?”
        It is MURDER to “unlawfully kill a human being”.
        I know it’s interesting to imagine how it took place, but in the end, it doesn’t really matter whether she shot him first or last.The fact is that she unlawfully killed Travis.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 11:55 am

        Let me be more clear:
        Travis would have died as a result of the numerous knife wounds, whether she shot him (first or last or even not at all).
        So long as the jury either disbelieves her story about Travis allegedly attacking her, OR even if they believe that story, they DISBELIEVE that she was in REASONABLE and imminent fear for her very life AND that she did not use UNREASONABLE force or excessive force to allegedly “defend” herself, that is alll that matters.

        HLN creates issues where none exist, just for ratings.

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:02 pm

        the point is how ridiculous the scenario presented is. Yet 4 ppl didn’t see through it! Astounding!

      • Nancy Pennington
        04/11/2013 at 11:59 am

        Absolutely correct. This show is a waste of airtime just like so many of the “reality” TV shows.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 11:38 am

      I have noticed something interesting about that show, and I’m wondering if it translates over to the culture in general. But there is no denying that the black people on the HLN juries vote “not guilty” almost all the time. We can all speculate why this may be. What I’d like to know right now is if there are any black people on the real Jodi Arias jury??

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 12:00 pm

        Crystal-
        I beg to differ.
        I have watched a number of those presentations and have watched the “jurors” hold up their “GUILTY” or “NOT GUITY” cards.
        Did not observe what you are reporting here.

        IN any event, think about what you are saying here.
        It personally makes me cringe.

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 3:09 pm

        I disagree, and wonder if you may have misspoken? I have made the mistake of watching the “After Dark” HLN program a few times- I have noticed the exact opposite of your observation. “Playing the race card” (in either direction) always bristles my sensibilities…. As to your question about “black people” being on this jury, I do not believe there are.

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 3:11 pm

        My response it’s CH, not WIS

      • Crystal Harris
        04/11/2013 at 5:54 pm

        It’s simply what I observe almost every time I watch the show. For example, last night, on the 8-4 split, all 4 “not guilty” votes were black people.
        I’m not judging, just observing. Sorry if it’s not ok to simply point out what I noticed and then to ask a question about it.

    • Jay
      04/11/2013 at 1:09 pm

      It’s a stupid show and generally gets everything wrong.
      And that theory would help the prosecution: ehy would she shoot him in the head AFTER she killed him if she was afraid for her life? Only proves she’s a ghoul with vindictive motives.

      • 04/11/2013 at 4:12 pm

        Yes Jay…well said! Either way, she used excessive force even if one beliefs her bs account of what happened. She is a ghoul.

  96. Elexa
    04/11/2013 at 9:42 am

    Crystal Harris
    04/11/2013 at 1:29 am
    “But again…JA’s own lack of knowledge about guns kept her from knowing that .25′s are rare, and that if she stole her grampa’s .25 and used it to kill Travis, it would be a glaring red flag that pointed at her guilt! Einstein, indeed!”

    Long time lurker, new poster here. When I saw the above comment, I did a little searching since I know nothing about guns and found this:

    http://craigsmithcolumns.homestead.com/choosingahandgun.html

    ” .25 caliber: Ian Fleming’s original arming of his fictional James Bond with a .25 caliber automatic was undoubtedly the result of Fleming’s limited understanding of field necessities, and a British Naval aversion to ruining the line of a Saville Row suit. When he was finally brought to his senses, no doubt by someone who knew better, he had his fictional “Q” provide his fictional “Bond” with a .380 Walther PPK, calling the .25 “worthless”. Well, he got it half right.

    In the non-fictional world, a .25 is known as the weapon of choice of light-weight women and pimps, primarily because it can easily fit in a handbag for the women, and a shoe or sock for the pimps. It is not carried by anyone who is actually ready and willing to use a gun, and knows anything about them. Real world use for a .25: plinking cans off of fence posts from six feet away, or, with blanks, starting a foot race.”

    Oh, yeah! She’s a genius! LOL

    Thank you all for the wonderful commentary on this case, you’re hysterical.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 10:21 am

      Thanks for that! Great. For “pimps” and “light weight women” hahaha Can they also be used by larger weight women with toothy grins who are “threatened” by critics?

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 10:30 am

        You’re on a roll Robert! ROFL

  97. 04/11/2013 at 10:08 am

    Hmm…I was just thinking (dangerous territory, I know!). But if someone can look at all of the state’s evidence against JA and STILL support her claim of self defense, would they be called a “suppwhoreter?” Just sayin’.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 10:14 am

      Truly, you’re trying to think when it comes to ALV, Gidget, Wurmi and JA???????? 🙂 Immediately cease such actions as it will only cause a lessening of brain cells 😉

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 10:22 am

      HAHA This is a good juan!

  98. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 10:11 am

    katz63md :
    MMD, you should send that exact statement to USAToday.

    Well to be honest, the article originated at the Arizona Republic and he is one of the 2 regular reporters that tweets during one of the live feeds that I watch.

    I do agree however with everything you said though katz! Very rarely do you ever see media that is completely unbiased although from some of his tweets I don’t think MK is exactly a JM fan. 😉

  99. Wendy
    04/11/2013 at 10:16 am

    Good morning all you wonderful peeps!!!😉

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 10:16 am

      Morning Wendy 🙂

  100. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 10:24 am

    G’day all- mid afternoon here in rainy Holland just caught up and dropped a few snarks and will run some chores and join you all soon! Justice for Travis.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 10:31 am

      Snarks accepted with thanks and definitely Justice for Travis!!!

  101. 04/11/2013 at 10:26 am

    Oh my gosh! I’m listening to a re-cap of Juantastic grilling ALV on Travis’ angry words to Joho…then ALV makes the statement (I’m paraphrasing) “there’s nothing wrong with being angry, it’s what you do with that anger.”

    YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME!!!! Did you just hear your own words, Ms. LaViolette????

    I have now entered an alternate universe…hope I can find my way back.

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 10:30 am

      Exactly! It was a wow for me too! Yes, Mz. Toilette, it’s important that people do not not pick up knives and guns when they are really, REALLY angry!

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 10:32 am

        or if they are seriously a loon (no offense to the bird)

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 11:05 am

      She believes that Travis’ “mean” words to Jodi are worse than Jodi’s stabbing and shooting Travis to death. Plain and simple, that’s a fact, she doesn’t believe that someone who stabs someone 29 times is angry. Obviously, she believes the fog story and that Jodi “snapped,” whatever. But Travis’ words to Jodi, no matter what provoked them, she truly believes are worse than what he did to her.
      So let me get this straight: if a man yells at you, and says mean things to you, no matter what you have done to him, he is a monster and abusive and you are rendered incapable of fighting back or defending yourself if you’re a woman.
      I lived in Sicily for a few months roughly ten years ago, with my Sicilian-bred boyfriend. I was yelled at, I mean, really screamed at, emotionally and sexually abused, called names, etc. When it got really bad I moved out. Since I was in a foreign country, didn’t know the language real well, and didn’t know anyone else except his family (who were very good to me) and felt I needed him to get to the airport, etc. (I was running out of money at that point), I maintained some contact with him until I could get safely back to my own soil. I even, yes, moved back in with him for a few days to accomplish that. It wasn’t until I was safe back in my own home/country, that I realized I had been in survivor mode for the three months that I had lived with him, and then I suffered some PTSD symptoms I believe for months afterward. I would shake when I would talk about the situation to others, for example.
      However, the point of all this is that I never snapped, went into a fog, butchered him. I talked back, etc. I stood up for myself. I moved out, and then finally I moved away. And unlike Jodi I didn’t go back! And I loved Sicily and his family, believe me, I WANTED to live there very, very much. His mother was like a second mother to me. I adored the woman. But anyway, I’m digressing, I know. So I know the defense would say that this example is different from Jodi’s alleged experience, in that she was physically assaulted (if you give her the benefit of the doubt, of course, which none of us do) but ALV is basing much of her testimony on the verbal abuse. Verbal abuse is bad, it makes you feel horrible, it hurts, but it doesn’t kill you and it doesn’t render you unable to make decisions.

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 11:06 am

        And I would just like to add to that, that the verbal abuse made me angry, very, very angry, so yes, there is anger on both sides, and it’s what you do with the anger that counts. You don’t premeditate and commit murder because of it!

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 11:08 am

        Oops, when I said, “But Travis’ words to Jodi, no matter what provoked them, she truly believes are worse than what he did to her.” I meant, what SHE did to HIM.

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 11:19 am

        And the one time I did finally crack, I didn’t hurt anyone, I just started speaking in English and freaked everyone out because usually I spoke in my broken Italian– no one I knew there spoke a word of English– and I finally had had enough and just started crying and wouldn’t stop, saying in English over and over that I wanted to go home. I freaked his poor mother out, which I deeply regret (and got yelled at by him for), but I was really at my wit’s end at that point. Anyway, just wanted to share, It was traumatic but I didn’t kill him. He’s still alive and well in Sicily!

      • 04/11/2013 at 5:07 pm

        Lisa, I’m not sure what icon will show because I’m at my computer, but this is from Janine.

        I am so sorry to hear what you went through with your ex-boyfriend. I can’t even imagine how alone and scared you must have been going through that terror, let alone in another country. So glad you were able to break away safely and get home.

        One week before Christmas, my husband and I found out that our daughter had been in an abusive relationship with her fiancé (ex now, thank God). When she finally called us crying, we were shocked. He had threatened her life the night before and threw a cup of scalding hot coffee on her lap that morning when she was in the car. We immediately went through the process of getting him out of her apartment. But it took several weeks of her taking him back three times before he finally overplayed his hand. It was shocking the things we learned. We had no idea. He was/is a narcissistic pathological lying sociopath who, apparently, had a history of physical and psychological abuse with his ex-girlfriends. What made it even harder was that he laughed whenever she would threaten to call the police, because one of his parents is an assistant state attorney (this person prosecuted a nationally televised case that was shown on TruTv). He told her every police officer in the county knows his parent and would never believe her. He devasted her financially, but just so very thankful that she got out alive. I couldn’t even watch the Jodi Arias trial in January, because it was too close to home. I lost ten pounds in seven weeks just from the terror of it all. So this trial now has also become personal to me, as I’m sure it has to many, many others who have experienced abuse in their own lives, or in the lives of their loved ones.

  102. jad
    04/11/2013 at 10:30 am

    Any person has the ability to file a Complaint with the State Bar if there is a valid belief a lawyer has harmed that person or has created a harm to justice, fair play, and the American Way. The Bar should not stifle General Public from filing a Complaint, and the Bar should address the matter timely and in a manner that is NOT dismissive of the Complainant’s Rights. Regardless, if the State Bar were to operate in good faith and for good cause, it would be unnecessary for a member of General Public to handle such a matter as the filing of a Complaint against any one or more criminal lawyers involved in an Enterprise that has raked the Arizona Court system over the coals, abused the Arizona taxpayer, and shown utter disrespect and unqualified contempt for Officers of the Court who have done nothing more than perform the duty imposed in order to uphold the Law of the Land. The abuse has been occurring for quite awhile under the tutelage of criminal lawyers, that have jointly engaged with persons self-described as expert witnesses, that have irresponsibly and illegitimately acted as advocates [rather than unbiased specialists in their field, with no prejudices] for a person accused of a despicable crime (in which the accused has freely admitted her involvement in the brutal slaughter of one of the resident/citizens of the State).

    One of the members of the State Bar should have already properly addressed the matter. That should have been done by now with the knowledge of the activity of these purported expert witnesses, hired by the defense [at the taxpayer expense] in the capital murder case of the State of Arizona versus Jodi Ann Arias. It is actually incumbent on all lawyers [that owe a duty under their Loyalty Oath for licensure] to file a Complaint that shows the manner “another lawyer has committed a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct that raises a substantial question as to that lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer”, per Rule 8.3(a) of the Rules of Professional Conduct. Although “the State Bar’s jurisdiction is limited to investigating matters that if true would violate the Rules of the Supreme Court, particularly the Rules of Professional Conduct”, according to the web site for the State Bar of Arizona, it must be recognized that the Bar is not a paper tiger. Comment # 121 (posted Tuesday, March 26, of day 37) and Comment # 971 (posted Monday, March 25, [at day 2 continued] of day 36) were published with details of that which could be considered when the Complaint is prepared. Once a proper Complaint has been filed, the State Bar of Arizona must acknowledge the Bar’s “primary purpose of the disciplinary process is to protect the public. Lawyers engaged in serious misconduct, such as lying to the court, theft of client funds or certain crimes, may be suspended or disbarred”.

    It can not be overlooked that (in this case that the State of Arizona filed against Jodi Ann Arias) the criminal lawyers appear to be coaching the expert witnesses (paid by the State taxpayers), allowing a deliberate manipulation of the facts, fabricating evidence, and acting in a manner that has brought disrepute to the unified Bar and harmed the profession [by the allowance of a display of inferior standards and acceptance of deplorable conduct]. The criminal lawyers are making a mockery of the justice system [in a time of conflict amongst nations when the Law of the Land is that which is judged by the world’s State Leaders]. Their criminal behavior warrants a severe punishment, as it is clear that they have colluded with other adventure seekers in a manner that violates the Rules and is against the Law. They have failed their duty and obligation to ensure their witnesses tell the truth under OATH before a Court of Law, in order to NOT MISLEAD THE COURT OR PERPETRATE A FRAUD UPON THE COURT.

    It is candor that is demanded by the Court. Accordingly, these lawyers that have entangled themselves in the violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct, by their involvement in permitting highly-paid witnesses (to collect their outrageous and outlandish fees, through a forced-fit onto the State’s payment schedule) to prepare false testimony and offer false evidence (in violation of Rule 3.3(a)(3) of said Rules), or counseling or assisting a witness to testify falsely (in violation of Rule 3.4(b) of said Rules), or allowing any misrepresentation of the TRUTH OF THE MATTER (in violation of Rule 4.1(b) of said Rules), should be more than severely reprimanded [while holding onto their licenses] — they should be disbarred. This method of operation employed by these criminal lawyers [that violates the Rules, for the benefit of a select few] could be considered more than a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct under Rule 8.4(c) of said Rules — especially if the conduct, involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation of the criminal lawyer, did include that of suborning perjury and other acts contrary to the Law. A lawyer is not licensed to subvert the truth-finding process and must recognize that the client has NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to “coerce the lawyer into being a party to fraud on the court”. If the lawyer believes otherwise, the lawyer has demonstrated his or her inability to serve the Law and should be disbarred instantly and for all time.

    • 04/11/2013 at 4:30 pm

      Thank you JAD!

  103. Nancy Pennington
    04/11/2013 at 10:38 am

    Nancy B: yep that’s us. Hubby (in his retirement job) was a teacher in Calif prison system. He worked in the prison medical facility which housed prisoners with physical and phycological issues. And yes, he does have some great points and now I have forced him to be as obsessed with this trial as I am. Good to hear a mans point of view.

    • 04/11/2013 at 10:52 am

      That must be great to be able to share your frustrations over this case with ur hubby – and a hubby with up close experience with the prison system and the likes of JA. (Although she may be in a psycho category all her own.)

  104. 04/11/2013 at 11:03 am

    MMD – Kuddos to you!!! So on point with the USA article and MK. Don’t you just love the twitter guy from WildAboutTrial? Got to do some running and be back for more . . .

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 11:46 am

      Ya I do love him. He’s hilarious and also a Canuck!!!! 🙂

  105. 04/11/2013 at 11:07 am

    MMD~~oh probably the fact that this trial is constantly running thru my head. Daytime ok, but not the nite!!!!

    ;>)

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 11:47 am

      Sometimes ya just gotta shut it all off and walk away which I did yesterday. I know, a lot easier said than done 😉

  106. MoVG
    04/11/2013 at 11:15 am

    I haven’t seen anyone comment on yesterday when Wilmott asked LaViolette about why Travis would sleep next to Jody (on the day he was murdered) if he was afraid of her. LaViolette said it was possible, I recall LaViolette being interupted then able to speak. When she finished her sentence she said that it went for Jody as well. That if Jodi was afraid of Travis how was SHE able to sleep next to him. I know I am not getting all of the text right but that is generally what I heard. I felt it was something that maybe she was thinking however, I was surprised to hear it out of her mouth considering her testimony.

    Nor did I see anyone comment yesterday on Jodi’s eyerolls or “playing judge” as they described on HLN (I know, I know). I was pretty disturbed by ALL of the behavior in the courtroom on Tuesday (by Jodi AND Ms. LV). I was just surprised some things were not mentioned. Maybe I am misinterpreting?

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:19 pm

      we talked about the “sustained’ and numerous times referenced Jodi’s smirky, smiling, eyerolls etc. Not sure which of those (if any) specifically you are referring to.

  107. donchais
    04/11/2013 at 11:17 am

    Just a reminder, court starts at 10:30 PT today.

    Tomorrow, yes Friday, will run from 9:30 to 12:30 PT.

    • 04/11/2013 at 4:42 pm

      Thanks for the reminder Donchais. I totally forgot about tomorrow. A conditioned response I suppose.

  108. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 11:20 am

    Haven’t had time to catch up reading yet so if someone already posted this please ignore.

    Question: The Dono/JA twitter acct is beyond ridiculous. She is up to over 2000 followers today – added more than 1000 from yesterday. Question for twitter people, is it possible to buy or fake followers? I think there must be – how would the nbr jump that much in less than 24 hrs? On the top headers she has linked to 2 sites that display some of her art – the colored ones but not the court house “portraits”, and I use that term very loosely, in pencil.

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 11:35 am

      I’m thinking of the word “follower” in very loose terms here – I hope that the vast majority of those who “signed on” are media/legal types that are looking for intel…

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 11:43 am

      They can be faked and there is a pr company involved but since the site made into the press that probably explains it.

  109. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 11:21 am

    I want to slap her so hard right now. I pray for a guilty verdict with the death penalty… this b*tch needs a reality check. She should not be allowed to tweet, whether through someone or not!

    Jodi tweeted, “eBay has banned all listings of my artwork. The silver lining in making my art more difficult to obtain is that it keeps increasing in value.”

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 11:46 am

      The ‘ugly” flipside to this, (post-conviction) is that you could actually hope there are one or more whack jobs that are willing to pay huge sums for her bird cage liners, and instead of her receiving the money, it goes towards restitution….

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 12:31 pm

        Well, it the money goes to the Alexander family, then I’m all for it!!!!! But like OJ and Ron Goldman’s family, they’ll probably wait a long time.

      • C.I
        04/11/2013 at 5:20 pm

        The money she is now making from her drawings/paintings – Can the state not make her repay the taxpayers for her defence? Can the IRS make her file a tax return?

  110. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 11:21 am

    Donchais – Did you see that Baumgartner only got 6 mos in federal prison?

    • donchais
      04/11/2013 at 11:22 am

      Yup, should have been longer IMHO.

      • LadyinRed
        04/11/2013 at 12:44 pm

        Agree! The weight of judicial robes should hold him to a higher standard IMHO.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 2:48 pm

      Yes and the prosecutor asked for 2 yrs which I thought was too light in consideration of the cumulative toll of extreme pain and suffering that his actions directly have caused to victim’s families. That is not even considering the enormous costs to tax payers that involve the numerous re-trials. Very unfair sentence, to my way of thinking.

  111. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 11:24 am

    This makes me feel alittle better 🙂

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 11:44 am

      Love it, love it love it!!!! Missed you yesterday Nienna!

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 11:45 am

        Yeah… sitting at the va hospital with hubby all day. But he’s fine. Missed you and everyone here too!

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:14 pm

        oh that’s no good. Hope all is fine 😦

  112. Laine
    04/11/2013 at 11:45 am

    Hey guys, I just wanted to say I understand how you feel about what is being let slide here in the court but I urge you to listen to the link Syn posted above of Wendy Murphy and Katie Koolady on Tricia’s True crime radio. Wendy Murphy is amazing and really put this trial in whole new perspective for me. She gives answers to a lot of the questions asked here including why AVL approached Samantha Alexander and the reasons Juan does not appear to do anything about it…yet. Please go listen to it!! and thank you Syn!!! 🙂

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:13 pm

      Laine, that was basically a repost. Someone else alerted us to that days ago. I just downloaded it. So whoever posted it originally deserves the kudos not I. I’m sorry I can’t remember who it was and I know I should. 😦

  113. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 11:46 am

    ROFL… Probably behind the curve here but just found out that “The Herp” has it’s own twitter account 🙂

    Jodi’s Herpe‏@JodiArias_Herpe12 Mar
    It would appear that Jodi’s plan for a break out erupted in her face. #JodiArias

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 11:58 am

      Nienna there are 2 of them. Seems they are multiplying. Here is the other one.

      Jodi Arias Herpes@JodiAriasHerpes although it hasn’t been used since March 13th. All I can say is, I’m soooooo glad I’m not on twitter!!!

      I live on the lip of Jodi Arias. I am the love child of her and her jailhouse GF.

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 12:20 pm

        LOL. I don’t twitter either. Can’t figure it out. I just read them to see if there is interesting new info on JA. On another note, I did notice three marks on Donavan’s face yesterday….

  114. 04/11/2013 at 11:52 am

    ok…. tweets ……..phone……. hmmmmmmmmmm

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:06 pm

      does anyone wonder about the coincidental timing of the cell phone left in JA’s proximity and the apparent arrival of this twitter account?

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 12:26 pm

        Good yesterday, Syn – not sure if it’s a coinky dink, or not. The Deputy should be advising the court that the cell phone is being (periodically) left unattended within easy reach of the Defendant.

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:31 pm

        JIm… I’m in your tomorrow… you are in my yesterday! sheesh! can’t you follow the space-time continuum!

        amd heeelllooo by the way!

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 12:37 pm

        🙂 it’s in slo-mo this morning.. Not sure if I can sit thru the DT’s trash rehash…

  115. 04/11/2013 at 11:55 am

    by the way.. hello everyone **waves**

  116. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 11:59 am

    Morning darlin’ ***********waves******* and {{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:04 pm

      MMD.. are you feeling better today? Yesterday was draining for so many of us. I know you and Chrissie were particularly affected. {{{hugs}}}

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:17 pm

        Hello Syntara~~having a good day so far????? Awaiting all your observations today!!!!!!

      • 04/11/2013 at 12:21 pm

        a liittle hazy at the moment.. and trepidatious… rather worried at how long Perky is going to engage LaLa :O

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 12:22 pm

        Better thanks 🙂 but if this redirect goes on I think I’ll be proactive and tune out and let donchais and the rest of you keep me informed. So much better for my mental health!!!!

  117. Laine
    04/11/2013 at 12:15 pm

    It’son Fox news Syn apparently her “friend” Donovan is behind it whom she calls every night…
    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/04/11/jodi-arias-tweeting-from-jail/

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:29 pm

      I was thinking she might have been reading tweets on that phone, which was why Perky placed it close to her. I’m ultra suspicious of this DT.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 12:36 pm

      I gotta know…is Donavan a man or a woman? On Twitter I’ve seen “it” referred to as both. Remember “Pat” on SNL? 🙂

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 1:12 pm

        I’m pretty sure but I saw a where a guy apologized to all the women out there because he said he finally realized it was a man. According to her a report on her trial, she went on about her abusive husband, blah, blah blah………………….. ring any bells????

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 1:13 pm

        Sorry mean’t to say pretty sure a woman 😉

    • 04/11/2013 at 5:18 pm

      I wonder if there might be a phone sex tape there. They need to check on that! 😀

  118. LadyinRed
    04/11/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Just posting this link in case someone else hasn’t …. I’m behind reading the thread already! http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130410arias-trial-witness-feels-social-medias-glare.html

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 12:25 pm

      See upstairs. It was also in USA Today. 🙂

      • LadyinRed
        04/11/2013 at 12:38 pm

        Will do MMD!

  119. Lisa M
    04/11/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Syntara :
    LisaM…. if that was the case she would have got him in the back IMHO… he’s very vulnerable then….

    I know, Syntara, I have wondered about why when he was in that vulnerable position with his back to her, she didn’t start stabbing him then. What is your belief on that? [Idk about the Psycho poses. I mean, maybe, but it seems a bit of a stretch. That would be serial killer stuff! (I own that movie, so maybe I’ll take a look at that scene later.)]
    But is it your opinion that she wouldn’t start stabbing when he had his back to her because she wanted him to see her face and know what was coming? IMO it’s because she couldn’t be sure that stabbing him in the back would incapacitate him, whereas she probably thought striking him first in the chest would, because of the heart. And also possibly because she wanted him to know what was coming.
    I also have a question about the seated photo of him in the shower. That’s the one that isn’t timestamped, correct? Whenever I look at that photo, I think I see blood pooling out from underneath his posterior. Am I wrong? Is it a shadow? Is that the one that may have been taken either before or after his death?

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 12:28 pm

      Let’s not forget that these moments pass quickly, and as evil as Jodi is, she had to be nervous about what she was about to do. Maybe she was working up the courage for that first stab, and before she knows it, Travis turns around and the opportunity has passed. Real life isn’t scripted and perfect (much as Jodi tried).

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:49 pm

      LisaM, I think the psycho similarities are in line with her psychopathology and I cannot dismiss them as mere coincidence. Astronomically high odds he happened upon those stances and her penchant for movie symbology. Plus she called it a “photo shoot”.

      I simply cannot believe it’s coincidence until evidence to the contrary comes forward I have to believe it was planned that way. The evidence of how she thinks screams it to me.

      I’ve been of this opinions for weeks and I’ve only seen more evidence since making the call to support it (unfortunately).

      From memory the seated one is time stamped.. at least the headshot that matches the seated pose is. I saw no blood and I looked carefully.. since seen a suspect one that seems to show blood. It makes no sense.. at one stage somewhere there were pics claiming he had blood on his neck in earlier shots, I personally see/saw no evidence of that either.

      I think the torso shot is an incidental shot taken as she swung in to attack him, ie moments before blood was spilled. Goes to Chrissie’s inside knowledge of the camera swinging from her neck. That’s just how I see it at the moment . Even if, the ME is wrong (which I’m not supporting at this stage) and she used a gun, this camera swing photo could still have been taken the same way.

      Oh…… and his legs are crossed in the bottom torso shot there is no way he is dead in that shot. Well no way that I can see, and it matches the head shot anyhow. You can put his head on top of that torso shot and it fits perfectly.

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 1:09 pm

        Chrissie, I have been wondering the same thing. Was she waiting for the right moment and improvising as he was posting, waiting for the best moment to strike?
        I think Syntara disagrees with that idea, am I right, Syntara?
        Is it your opinion, Syn, that Jodi had it already planned that she would pose him in the ways she did, and then get him to sit down and begin her onslaught? In other words, she wasn’t making it up as she was going along, but knew she’d stab him in the sitting position before he even got into the shower?
        And also, Syntara, I guess I’d have to study that Psycho shower scene before I could really comment on your points. But it might end up being another example of something I’d rather not look too much into, because the more evidence I see of her psychopathy, the more it truly creeps me out, and I’d almost rather not go there!

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:21 pm

        LisaM I think it was preplanned…

        It’s supposed to be face photo – dead in shower.

        Sitting shot not supposed to be there and fight for life not supposed to happen. In the psycho shots ends with her dead in shower and just her feet/ lower legs presented to depict this

        here if you want to see :

        http://www.chathousenews.com/2013/02/the-shower-scene-jodi-arias-chat-house.html:

      • Lisa M
        04/11/2013 at 5:14 pm

        Syntara, I went on the link you provided and was shocked to see how similar the poses are to the ones in Psycho. It really is pretty uncanny. I posted another reply similar to this one but it’s in moderation, for some reason, I think it’s because I changed my email address (but did that a couple of days again.) Anyway, wow, that’s all I can say.

  120. Crystal Harris
    04/11/2013 at 12:24 pm

    I have to admit I am now a follower of @jodiannarias on Twitter. It’s impossible not to. The insight into her thoughts and “intel” is too good to pass up. It’s like the letters my husband sends to our boys from prison…they give me insight into his mental state (crazy town).
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole endeavor is short lived though. If nothing else, JA’s own attorneys should stop this immediately. Bizarre!

  121. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 12:27 pm

    Nienna :
    Yeah… sitting at the va hospital with hubby all day. But he’s fine. Missed you and everyone here too!

    Glad to hear everything’s ok 🙂

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 12:40 pm

      Thank you

  122. truejustice
    04/11/2013 at 12:32 pm

    I just can’t get over how mush she loves attention and she doesn’t care how or shy she’s getting it.

    OH ja.. when this trial is done you will fade into the background . Your lawyers will move on. Your fans will go back to their own lives. You are not special , there are hundreds of women in prison just like you. Names virtually forgotten by everyone except those who will spit on their graves for the scars you have left. Your artwork will become a freak show and your manifesto will be the scribbles of insanity. They will be worthless to you – as you can gain no profit from your crime.
    So tweet away … before you become nothing but a prison number , a case study, a blip among all the others just like you!

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 12:41 pm

      Bravo!

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:45 pm

      Ditto!!!!

    • NapaNonnie
      04/11/2013 at 1:52 pm

      Well stated

  123. Gateway
    04/11/2013 at 12:38 pm

    Good morinin everybody, I just had HLN on and they were discussing how Juan got Alyce to admit JA was truly a stalker of TA. Remember, her bone of contention was – if he didn’t do anything about it ie. restraining order, he wasn’t afraid or being stalked. Who is she kidding??
    She of all people should know a restraining order isn’t worth the paper it’s written on when you
    are dealing with a CRAZY PSYCHO like her. I may have missed it but where did TA say “Jodi
    I love you”. Was it a phone recording or an IM etc. because I find it hard to believe he acturally – verbally – said that. I have wondered this for a long time. Nothing would have stopped her. Tx

  124. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 12:40 pm

    Syntara :
    Robert ahem did I not say: “Personally I’m still siding with Dr Horn”?? Does that not make 4? Robert Robert Robert!!! Not up to your usual standard!

    What can I say? I *momentarily* tried to inflate my French , my homo erotice desires, and my hope for a MFM. Forgive?

    • 04/11/2013 at 12:52 pm

      ROFL… Robheeerrrr you are in definite need of a break from this trial!!! mmwhahahaha!!!

  125. PAM
    04/11/2013 at 12:44 pm

    What time does trial start today, Thursday 04/10/13?

  126. PAM
    04/11/2013 at 12:46 pm

    Sorry….did not see your comment above that it starts at 10:30…which is 1:30 est. Does anyone know if Willnot will start the day?

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 1:00 pm

      Yes. 1:30 EST and Willnot will start.

  127. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/11/2013 at 12:49 pm

    Ci Ci’s Circle :
    Time for us to go home…..Ci Ci’s knocked out on the couch and one of the old hens wrote on her forehead with a marker!!! He he he….we’re going to hear about that tomorrow!!

    Ok……so by now, based on this message my fellow old hens left last night, you all must know that I was too wined up to get myself to bed last night! (face turning bright red!). So here’s what happened…….I couldn’t stand listening and watching the old bag and Willanothin’ anymore so I started to get sauced. And in this group of women you DON’T want to be the first one to go to sleep. Well that’s where I went wrong! Anyway…..I got up off the couch (at least they threw a blanket over me and made sure the doors were locked when they left) around 2:00 a.m. and went in to take a shower (I felt awful and a shower helps!) I hadn’t looked in the mirror until I started to brush my teeth!!! And yes…..they did write on my forehead!!! With a black marker!!! IT SAID “KISS ME”…….ahhhhhhggghhhh!! OMG…..I just stood there with the biggest headache looking at myself in the mirror…and if you’ve ever had a wine hangover it ain’t pretty and it feels even worse than you look! Well…..knowing each other as we do we can’t get mad so I just started laughing at myself!! I hopped in the shower and scrubbed as good as I could but there’s still a faint shadow. I’ve used a lot of Ponds night cream and most of it is gone but it’ll take some scrubbing……I just showered and went to bed and thought to myself, “crazy ol bitches!” Wait’ll they show up today…..I’m going to lock the doors and not let them in and wave a bottle of wine at them from the window!! Ha ha ha ha…..(yes….eventually I’ll let them in!!) They got a good off on me though…..that won’t happen again!!

    Let’s hope today will be a short day in court and this nonsense with the old bag and Willanothin’ is done so we can get to the good stuff…..JUAN!! We’ll catch up with you all later!!

    • LadyinRed
      04/11/2013 at 12:56 pm

      Oh CiCi … that reminds me of being the first to fall asleep at a slumber party back in elementary school, and waking up with toothpaste and shaving cream in my hair! LOL!!

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 12:59 pm

      Too funny!!! And agreed… wine hangovers are the worst! May as well just get hit it the back of the head with a 2 x 4 🙂

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:04 pm

      CC….. Could have been worse, could have been “Kiss me Wurmi” 😈

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 1:06 pm

        OH NO!

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 1:18 pm

        OMG SYN – that would give CiCi nightmares after Chrissie’s picture – an image still vivid in my mind whenever I look at him 😦

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 1:20 pm

        MMD! You poor thing!!

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:11 pm

      Ci Ci~~ love love your missives!!!! Your circle reminds me of a circle I am in. They have all had similar things done when the spirits consumed them. Luckily 2 of us are teetotalers so we are safe. But it has been FUN !!!!!!! Keep up your good work.

  128. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 12:57 pm

    Geez. I hope I don’t get too dependant on these mssives from the 3Cs.

  129. Anniefreeze
    04/11/2013 at 1:00 pm

    OT. Dr drew has too much Botox! Around his mouth and cheeks there is no movement. Bwahahah

  130. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 1:00 pm

    Syntara–any more Aussie stories about women who write in the sand? Very Zen as well aspractical in her circumstance.

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:08 pm

      LOL… nooo but I’m sure something will come up sooner or later! I think it’s great we were first to show how ridiculous LaLa’s testimony was. What better way to illustrate it? :mrgreen:

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 2:08 pm

        LMAO! Buck teeth and all!

  131. Nancy Pennington
    04/11/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Totally off topic here but could someone tell me which is worse—calling someone a “douchbag” or an asshole?? Or is there some other word that is even better?? Don’t want to explain here since it is such a long story but inquiring minds want to know. And before anyone asks this has absolutely nada to do with my sweet husband. Thanks

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 1:06 pm

      I think douchbag is worse. @sshole… My friends and I use as a term of endearment 🙂

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:10 pm

        😯

      • truejustice
        04/11/2013 at 1:11 pm

        I vote .. douchebag. it has an overall implication of rottenness – ‘a’ word seems more like some attitude.

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 1:18 pm

        Syn… Asshole as a term of endearment – You’d have to take it in it’s context 🙂 Haha

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:25 pm

        aaahhhh Nienna… so appropriately placed in the pattern within the continuum? 😎

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 1:49 pm

        Absolutely

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 1:10 pm

      The comic Denis Leary does a stand-up song called “I’m an asshole” that pretty much gives top billing to that moniker over d-bag.

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 1:19 pm

        But that’s my groups theme song! It’s a long story but none of us are actually assholes.

    • Jay
      04/11/2013 at 1:30 pm

      For a guy I’d say “Dickhead.”

      The really REALLY bad one for a woman (you have to fill in the blank) is “Cu*t.”

      For a bunch of words the worst put-down I’ve heard for a woman was uttered yesterday at my local pub by the female bartender, who told another woman at the bar who was annoying her: “You’re not pretty enough to be this stupid!”

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 1:39 pm

        Jay :
        For a bunch of words the worst put-down I’ve heard for a woman was uttered yesterday at my local pub by the female bartender, who told another woman at the bar who was annoying her: “You’re not pretty enough to be this stupid!”

        🙂

  132. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Let’s help get it down!…

    Kristi Petit‏@SingleMom2Gage22m
    Please sign #jodiarias. Trying to get Webhost to take down http://www.jodiarias.com https://www.change.org/petitions/http-ma-tt-and-http-wordpress-org-stop-the-sale-of-art-by-jodi-arias#

  133. 04/11/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Tracey, ohhhhh Tracey where art thou???? How is your golden doing???

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 2:04 pm

      I’m here! 🙂 He’s doing good, thanks for asking. I just had a hot spot that really blew up overnite yesterday. He’s “juicing” right now on some really good drugs (I’m jealous) and has to wear the “cone of shame” for a few days.

      How’s your baby? You said you had to go to the vet too???

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:32 pm

        He pulled out a toenail on back foot and bleeding a lot. He is good, on drugs too!!! And milking it to the max ;0). Thanks for inquiring.

  134. Schaeffer
    04/11/2013 at 1:06 pm

    Per Wild About Trial — Rumor is ALV is not here today, so court ma be cancelled. Stay tuned on the Wild About Trial site.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 1:08 pm

      Please NO!!!

    • truejustice
      04/11/2013 at 1:08 pm

      I was really hoping that she would be done today so we could see who was up next.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:23 pm

      She’s there now.

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:29 pm

      she better be there…or Im gonna suspect the usatoday twaddle was aimed at a cover for her in-attendance.

  135. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 1:08 pm

    An executive at a Brooklyn nonprofit was busted Wednesday for selling fake safety training certificates for day care workers.
    Gzael Gibbons, president of United Family Services Inc., was charged with pocketing $12,400 in return for dozens of bogus certificates, officials said Wednesday.

    Todays story in NY News reminds me of someone else who has sucked on the non-profit love of “training” others by “social workers”. Barf.

  136. Schaeffer
    04/11/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Alyce needs to pull up her big girl panties and appear! She dug the hole she is in, so she has no one to blame but herself.

    http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130410arias-trial-witness-feels-social-medias-glare.html

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 1:17 pm

      I think she got some of those AZ bucks going to a PR firm to try and spin her image. Did you see the caption? Who – other than a paid PR person – would ever describe LaToilette “holding her own” with the prosecutor? Holding her own what?

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:24 pm

        BALLZZZZZZZ ; >)

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:31 pm

        ya beat me Vicksy!

        …. ok I’ll go with astroglider!!!!!!

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:38 pm

        OMG~~well that will be the only time. Bow in respect ~~LOL!!!!

  137. Lisa M
    04/11/2013 at 1:15 pm

    Lisa M :
    Chrissie, I have been wondering the same thing. Was she waiting for the right moment and improvising as he was posting, waiting for the best moment to strike?

    Sorry, I meant Crystal, not Chrissie! And also should say posing, not posting.

  138. Observer
    04/11/2013 at 1:16 pm

    The important points that Martinez made to the jury yesterday was:

    -Travis Alexander put it in writing and told several people he was stalked, afraid of Jodi Arias, she was evil and a sociopath and the worst thing that happened to him.
    -Jodi Arias didn’t put anything in writing about Travis backhanding her, kicking, her in the ribs, choking her to unconsciousness and masturbating to pictures of little boys and even wrote over and over how much she loved him.
    -If she did tell Matt McCartney Travis abused her, when did she tell him? (When she was in jail fabricating her self defense battered woman’s defense.)
    -Jodi moving to Mesa after they broke up is stalking.
    -Jodi’s own testimony of looking in Travis’s window and seeing him making out with a woman is stalking.
    -Jodi threatening to tell Travis’s friends an untrue allegation that he is a pedophile is creating fear and a form of stalking and abuse.
    -Travis Alexander might have admired the actress Cameron Diaz who wore sexy Spiderman underwear in Charley’s Angels.
    -Jodi’s own father said in his interrogation that Jodi had been lying to them since she was 14.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 1:25 pm

      And Jodi’s dad didn’t say that Jodi only lied as a teenager (as the defense kept saying over and over). The whole reason he said what he said was to make the point that she has been lying since the age of 14 all the until NOW (the time of the police interview). Do they think we’re stupid?

      • 04/11/2013 at 1:32 pm

        A; yes

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/11/2013 at 2:22 pm

      And if she told Matt M about anything, Why is he not testifying for her????can you spell PERJURY??????? Juan can and he is sending a Websters dictionary to Matt as we speak!!!!

  139. 04/11/2013 at 1:18 pm

    Don’t expect Willmot to finish up redirect today. Maybe not even tomorrow. BTW is there any chance her magazine notes can be brought in?

    “You fucked up what you told my attorney next day
    directly contradicts what I’ve been saying for over a year
    get down here asap and see me before you talk to them again and before
    you testify so
    we can fix this…”

    Suborning perjury, anyone?

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:27 pm

      Hi Bubble~~I would think so!!!!!!

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:34 pm

      they are in.. that’s how I found out about them Juan had the magazines, they are exhibits.

  140. Schaeffer
    04/11/2013 at 1:19 pm

    Per Wild About Trial — Alyce is present so court should proceed.

  141. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 1:19 pm

    Ah. Fresh after shave. Slap here, there, Got it.. Thanks Observer! Refreshed on the facts!

  142. LindaLou
    04/11/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Hi Everyone. Thought you’d enjoy a little laughter before trial today.
    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=plpp&v=Hz8YR22DduI

  143. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 1:21 pm

    WhereIsSHE :
    Thanks, MMD. I wasn’t referring to you though;)
    Nancy B-
    It is not “illegal”–as you put it– for a party to discuss their case with and/or prepare their
    expert witnesses to testify. That is a part of what lawyers actually must do with their experts. The whole point of having experts testify is to “assist the tried of fact” to understand evidence that is beyond the “ken” (i.e. knowledge) of the “average layperson”.
    Don’t you think that Juan discussed the case/the defendant’s agnosis, etc with HIS rebuttal
    _____________________________________________________________________

    Preparing a witness for testimony certainly is what any competent attorney would do. Basic. That’s not what I mean at all. I do not believe that those preparations are appropriate to take place in a crowded restaurant where their conversation can be so easily overheard. I just think that is unprofessional. The distinction I made was that I believe that JW has actually be involved on an ongoing basis with directly coaching this witness. The testimony of Samuels. Jodi and ALV is much too closely aligned and scripted for me to believe any alternative.

  144. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:22 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I have confirmation that Alyce is here. Let’s hope we can get going for another day of testimony. 🙂

  145. truejustice
    04/11/2013 at 1:23 pm

    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m
    I have confirmation that Alyce is here. Let’s hope we can get going for another day of testimony. 🙂 #JodiArias

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:24 pm

      LOL

      • truejustice
        04/11/2013 at 2:13 pm

        🙂 too funny

  146. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:23 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi just walked in, black suit with a full on salmon shirt. Looks awesome! He must have got my messages to wear salmon today

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/11/2013 at 2:31 pm

      That is not salmon that is hot pink and hot he is not. Remember he was melting so maybe he is hot. Can’t spell euuu so have to stick with YUK!

  147. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:24 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Willmott is here with dark gray suit, salmonish shirt under and a necklace of black spherical objects

  148. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 1:24 pm

    I dunno I dunno..
    The wife keeps asking, have you changed suddenly? I say what you mean? She says, “you spend most of the day in a room with a lot of other women and you claim you’re not screwing any of them; you start most days prancing around like you’re at a West Hollywood disco to the music from a Beverly Hills Cop film about “heat”;; you come to bed late and I hear you say “Juan” a lot; and now you start quoting to me, some guy named “bubblebutts..” Are you truning gay on me?”

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 1:27 pm

      ROFL!

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:30 pm

      Hysterical laughing now includes tears rolling down my face and scared dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 1:35 pm

        Anyone peeping in your window would think you are a lunatic! 🙂

    • 04/11/2013 at 1:39 pm

      hmmmmmmmmm me thinks she has a point!!!! 😀

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 1:59 pm

      WTF! I had just taken a swig of OJ (which is now all over my screen…AND I KNOW BETTER) and this pops up. ROFL!!! Your wife is awesome!

    • 04/11/2013 at 5:23 pm

      PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!! 😀

  149. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 1:25 pm

    MMD… LOL…
    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi just walked in, black suit with a full on salmon shirt. Looks awesome! He must have got my messages to wear salmon today. #JodiArias

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 1:25 pm

      Note to self… Look up before posting 🙂

  150. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Vickee :
    BALLZZZZZZZ ; >)

    ROFL – now in complete hysterical laugh

  151. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:31 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Tanisha is wearing a pretty salmon top today. I see the trend is catching on. #JodiArias Need to make those salmon ribbons soon.

  152. green tea
    04/11/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Let me begin by confessing that I love this blog! I believe donchaise is providing a huge public and mental service for allowing and providing us a safe sandbox for which to play or simply observe the players. Thank you donchaise!
    I was lead to this site via justice4caylee months ago, but never posted any comments. Although I believe that anger needs to be directed at the perpetrator of this horrific murder, I cannot help feeling immense disgust for AL. I admit that I have posted a non to nice comment about her on amazon…. it was maybe even overboard…. and maybe it was nonfactual… but it was how I felt about her, and her statements made under oath, and her audacity to profit from what I believe to be lies! She has slandered Travis Alexander by saying as FACT and under OATH that he was an abuser, that he was a pedophile, that he was a sexual deviant, that he, stabbed and shot and dead as he is, was the PERPATRATOR of abuse. Now AL is claiming to be the Victim of slander, of persecution! What about Travis’s rights? Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black? What about my rights to freedom of speech? I can’t share my opinions if it affects her wallet? Maybe some think it wasn’t her fault, that she was tricked into lying. I think she is calculating and callouses! Her trick to go over to the victims’ family was simply dishonest, a “look caring she I am”. And the court is helpless… the court system seems to be broken, and in this case I can’t even begin to count the ways! I feel sad family, and sad because I have personally suffered the loss of a brother, also shot in the head, and sister whose death still remains unexplained… and I am mad, that my feeling about AL are being called slander, but that her lies are called “expert testimony”. Thank you for letting me vent a little.

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:49 pm

      Hi green tea~~free speech is the name of the game. Thanks for sharing!!

      • green tea
        04/11/2013 at 3:17 pm

        Thanks Vickee =) I’m hesitant to contribute, because (as apparent by the many grammatical errors above) my emotions are running at high speeds here… totally out of control. But I enjoy reading!

  153. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:34 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    The courtroom is alive with chatter at the moment. We all await the judge and #JodiArias.

  154. truejustice
    04/11/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Nancy Gill ‏@nancygill now
    @WildAboutTrial and today’s mistrial motion by #jodiarias defense is??

    If I had to guess , it’s about the LV social media issue.

    • truejustice
      04/11/2013 at 1:43 pm

      Although I don’t see any new mistrial motions on the on-line case file .

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 1:44 pm

        Heard there was a big discussion about it in chambers on Monday

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 1:44 pm

      LaToilette figures the “notoriety” will help her now. She can appear places as a “cassandra” who “broke the glass ceiling” by being “honest” about domestic violence. Listen,when you have a hammer, every little widget looks like a nail.

  155. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady
    Seems #laviolette likes renaming victims in #jodiarias trial, first Jodi now herself. Let’s be clear: the victims are Travis and his family.

    Exactly true!!!!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 1:55 pm

      Hi MMD! I have been reading about poor, poor Alyce this a.m. In the ER over the weekend? (Most likely to try to get out of Juans’ cross) This is a result of when one is caught in lies & inconsistencies. They think it is cyber-hate? How would she know, apparently she knows nothing about the web? Does this mean she has been following the trial online? They fail to realize that most of the outrage toward her is from actual DV victims that know she is full of bs. And what about the Alexanders? Sams’ heart was breaking yesterday, she is murdering Travis all over again with her bias testiphony! Okay rant over 😛

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 2:02 pm

        Hi Chrissie – ditto – My heart was breaking for Sam yesterday as well.

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 2:07 pm

        I had a pretty rough time of it with Dr. Loo and Perky playing “Girls Just Wanna have Fu-un” I may have to switch off again if it continues, that is, if court ever starts today…

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:06 pm

        Chrissie sooooooooooo true!!!!! As I said.. she ever wakes up to the truth of what she’s done she’s going to need long term therapy.. and perhaps several more visits to the ER with stress symptoms. PTSD anyone???

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 2:09 pm

        from your keyboard to the main stream media! Don’t let “them” highjack our rights!

  156. 04/11/2013 at 1:45 pm

    has the trial begun today???

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:46 pm

      not yet

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 1:47 pm

      They’re in chambers…

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:03 pm

        o lawd!!! Again??!!?? 😕

  157. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:46 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Valerie just said no salmon colored slankets are allowed any more either. I will have to bring the cheetah forever lazy tomorrow

  158. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 1:47 pm

    Wurmi probably organized the “picketing” He was eating his microwaved pizza and mentioned maybe he’d enjoy a ” picnic” and, his buddies thought he said “picket” and they went to the social media.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:49 pm

      Roberttttttttttttttttttttt – my sides are already hurtinggggggggggggggggggggggg LOL 🙂

  159. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Morning All!! Everybody ready for another wild ride??? Going back upstairs to get caught up…

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:50 pm

      Morning darlin’ 🙂

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 1:52 pm

        Ehh, I’m so sorry I missed you signing out yesterday. I know you were having a rough day. Go glad you are back. Missed ya! 🙂

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 1:57 pm

      Mornin’ Trace 🙂

  160. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:48 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I see that #JodiArias is here but a monitor is blocking her wardrobe from me. I will guess she also has a salmon colored slanket on.

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I don’t see Donavan here yet, she must be working on some masterful tweets on that Jodi account? #JodiArias

  161. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:50 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    The stapler lady also has on a salmon colored shirt. Alyce just went back into chambers

  162. Jay
    04/11/2013 at 1:53 pm

    I think they may pull the plug on the TV and Video broadcast

    • Jay
      04/11/2013 at 1:55 pm

      Hope I’m wrong…

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 1:57 pm

      At almost the end of the trial??????? Can they do that?????

      • Jay
        04/11/2013 at 2:00 pm

        Don’t know the law. But if they’re crying witness intimidation via media, Judge may have authority to close off cameras… or maybe only allow audio broadcast…

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 2:03 pm

        This was mentioned in passing by a reporter, that in future maybe trials should not be televised as Dr. Loo is apparently getting hate mail. I highly doubt they will cut the cameras.

      • Jay
        04/11/2013 at 2:10 pm

        Back on.. Good. Now I can buy another bottle of Tums for acid reflux

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 2:01 pm

      Thats the first step of the totalitarian mindset. Power always love to mention how transparent they are; how many “rights” are being protected and the fresh air approach to all
      but the most classified hearings.In practice, power will always divert attention, close off access, start op-psych practices and keep the masses at bay. They will mention that the “camera” was the reason; they hate to admit – in the OJ case for instance – that the camera didnt have a chance againstr the mediocrity of the State.In this case, the same. Its not the camera; its whats happening in front of it. I hope this is a rumour,

  163. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 1:56 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    #JodiArias is in all black, she just went into chambers as well. We wait.

    Guess she didn’t get the memo about salmon 😉

    • Anniefreeze
      04/11/2013 at 2:13 pm

      She is probably getting reminded of the admonition and warned of her school girl behavior that will influence the jury. Too bad she can’t just cook her own goose and be allowed to do head stands and cartwheels and sing as she wishes. Oops, forgot that that would help her because they will view her as crazy.

      One more thing. I don’t know understand why the jails don’t give all prisoners a rope to “play with”‘ you know…maybe some will be cleaver and find other uses for it like hanging themselves. Ok, I have crossed the line here. 10 Hail Marys.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 3:41 pm

        Nah, One Our Father. And a two-buck chuck to the rectory..

  164. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Geeze at this rate we’ll only have time for a sidebar and it will be lunch break 😦

  165. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:04 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Valerie just called for Travis’ sisters (not Tanisha) to come back to chamber

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:11 pm

      I was wondering if JM would bring in a sibling to testify about Travis’s childhood since AL trashed him. Wonder is Tanisha is going to?

  166. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:07 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Looks like I missed my 11:00am estimated start time by 5 mins.. please forgive Wild. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Everyone is coming back in the courtroom now. Let’s get this going!

  167. 04/11/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Heeeelllooooooo Chrissie by the way ***waves*** feeling better today? maybe best not to watch the trial til juror questions for health reasons!!! 😐

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 2:13 pm

      I was fine until I read the bs about Dr Loo – I’ll see how long I can bear the slumber party between her and WillNot 😛

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:15 pm

        siiiigh… like protects like Chrissie. sadly.

  168. Chrissie A
    04/11/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Syntara :
    Chrissie sooooooooooo true!!!!! As I said.. she ever wakes up to the truth of what she’s done she’s going to need long term therapy.. and perhaps several more visits to the ER with stress symptoms. PTSD anyone???

    Mornin’ Sweetpea

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 2:13 pm

      Maybe Dr. Quack can treat her!!! 🙂

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 2:15 pm

        LOL!! Two bitter pills in the same bottle 😉

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:19 pm

        hahahaha I was thinking that yesterday!!!

  169. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Male Court reporter with white hair not here; wobo trying to make eye contact withthe jury..Lala in th eusual curtain wrap.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 2:15 pm

      It seems strange that Mike B is not here today because he’s a major player in this but maybe he REALLY NEEDED a break from ALV!!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 2:19 pm

      Did she wear that yesterday? Maybe she had an all-niter? Or maybe her curtain wraps are molding into one

  170. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 2:11 pm

    See, she remembers what she wants to remember.

  171. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Jim – do you have ‘tirade’ on your list???

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 2:14 pm

      yes Jim does! 🙂

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:20 pm

        jim do you torture there….. cos her testimony is torture!!!!

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:22 pm

        LOL freudian slip.. I meant do you have torture on your list! hahahah 😳

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 2:31 pm

        torture added (and underlined)…

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 2:33 pm

      I’m personally going to add the word Torment to this list…cos I think she did that to JM as well

  172. NapaNonnie
    04/11/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Here we go again with “tirade.” Thanks Ms Willnotwintiscase.

  173. 04/11/2013 at 2:14 pm

    what is the hold up???

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:15 pm

      It’s on now

  174. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Already I went to mute. I was thinking, that she wouldn’t be on long. I mean if you have a car wreck and everyone saw it, no use pretending it didnt happen for a week. So I’ll follow you reporters. You know today Gidget’s hair looks like a Prussian helmet, with ear muffs down.

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 2:17 pm

      Yesterday she had bed head.

  175. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:16 pm

    Can we say totally coached testiphony????????????????????????? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  176. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:17 pm

    She totally makes mistakes when Gidget asks but NEVER when JM asks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  177. 04/11/2013 at 2:17 pm

    can we say her whole testimony is misspeaking or mistakes//// not only obvious but by her own admission! 👿

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 2:18 pm

      yep!!!!!!!!!!!!

  178. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:18 pm

    OMG she is such a liar and sellout! I can’t f**king believe it!!!!!

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:23 pm

      amd they wonder why she has people speaking out against her? REALLY??????

  179. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:19 pm

    At least squirmy wurmi isn’t sitting with his fukin legs up on the table

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:21 pm

      YET

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 2:23 pm

        😉

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 2:54 pm

      His shirt is hanging out the back of his trousers tho 😉

      • 04/11/2013 at 4:29 pm

        As long as he does not bend over. That would be cruel and unusual punishment. OMG…….. Cannot even think of that. (Got any pictures,Chrissie)? ;~)

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 4:30 pm

        That could be a good one – lol !!!

  180. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:20 pm

    This is gonna be a complete direct all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:22 pm

      Yes it is. So maybe next week for the rebuttal? Wish it would start now!

  181. Marilyn N
    04/11/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Good Morning/Afternoon!
    Pretty disappointing to realize this is what we were all intently waiting for………..😴

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:27 pm

      Hi Marilyn… you left off night 🙂 *waves*

  182. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:23 pm

    On mute I pretend that Gidget and LaLa are on the cooking show CoolLady in Court mentioned.. “THIS is the way you add the salt, right?Yes ,ALL the people in my group add the salt that way. Thank you. And do you use your LEFT hand when you whip the sauce?OH, yes. The left hand*giggle giggle*.

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:26 pm

      and are you done yet?

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:29 pm

        that’s re the cooking analogy by the way. 😉

  183. Chrissie A
    04/11/2013 at 2:23 pm

    via Daniel Buffone:

    JM ” Maam, would you agree that yes and no are exact opposites, yes or no? ”
    Lavo ” Mr. Martinez, I am an abuse expert, not a language expert, Mr. Martinez”
    JM ” Well, would you agree that yes and no are a form of a positive and a negative?
    Lavo ” If you say so”.
    JM ” No, I want you to tell me”.
    Lavo ” Mr. Martinez, yes is a form of a word that in the context can mean anything”.
    JM ” Maam, can we agree that yes is a positive?”
    Lavo ” A nod up and down is a form of that word, Mr. Martinez”
    JM ” Can you even say the word , yes?”
    Lavo ” Ok”.
    JM ” No I want you to say the word , yes”.
    Lavo “sure”
    JM ” Maam, look at my mouth and say the same word, yes”.
    Lavo ” I need to get my glasses”.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 2:24 pm

      pretty wells sums up ALV when talking to JM

    • truejustice
      04/11/2013 at 2:24 pm

      lol – nice!

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:25 pm

      ROFL! So true!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/11/2013 at 2:32 pm

        ditto! good wordsmith!

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:30 pm

      for a moment i thought that was actually transcribed!

      • NapaNonnie
        04/11/2013 at 2:44 pm

        Agree. Sounds like any of the La Toilet testimony in this case

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 3:08 pm

        LOL. What makes you think you wasn’t??? 😉 I’m pretty sure I heard that exact exchange…

  184. truejustice
    04/11/2013 at 2:23 pm

    she was pursuing a “couple” of men . Isn’t that the same behavior that lv says made TA abusive.

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:31 pm

      No!!!!! it only applies to men!

  185. Marilyn N
    04/11/2013 at 2:24 pm

    I suppose they might think if they repeat their story over and over and over again, the jury might believe it.

  186. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:25 pm

    Does Gidget think ANYBODY is buy this crap????????????? All it’s doing is upsetting me!!!!! 😦

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 2:28 pm

      Yeah I mean what haoppened to the old notion to cut your losses,,

      • MMD
        04/11/2013 at 2:38 pm

        They’ve never heard of that notion!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  187. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 2:26 pm

    OMG! “Alledged” orgasm?! Seriously? Morons!!

  188. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:26 pm

    No she didn’t have pictails she had braids – grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr they can’t even get that right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  189. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Along with about 80% of the other men on the planet. IMHO…

    Wildabouttrial Tweeted:
    Willmott and Alyce are discussing how Travis liked #JodiArias to dress like a school girl, wear pigtails and be clean shaven.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:28 pm

      Doesn’t make em Pedos

  190. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Hey guys& gals! What she saying?

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:36 pm

      nothing it’s all the same crap .. seriously it is. Guess and let’s see how close you are!

  191. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:30 pm

    I was hoping we’d have jury questions by now. These two on audio? No.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:31 pm

      WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial
      I see one paper in the juror bin but that looked to me like it was there from the start of trial today.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:33 pm

      WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial
      I see a few jurors toying around with the question forms. Will keep an eye on the bin for you.

  192. 04/11/2013 at 2:33 pm

    I can’t believe the defense has the audacity to go on about deception seriously.. with a pathological liar at their table… it literally makes me sick. literally

  193. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:34 pm

    Syntara :
    that’s re the cooking analogy by the way.

    wipes off sweat with back of hand whew…

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:38 pm

      LOL thought you’d know that!!! May I say again… not up to your usual standard today 😉

  194. Anniefreeze
    04/11/2013 at 2:34 pm

    LA can NOT clean her reputation, it is too late. Wingnut just made toilet purger self by making her admit she made a mistake regarding the gunshot in closet. Feck, feck, feck. Haha. Legals will be using this stuff as class room do’s and dont’s for decades.👹🔥

  195. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 2:35 pm

    Oops. So replied to Robert when I meant to just posted those tweets.

  196. SCK
    04/11/2013 at 2:37 pm

    THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ABUSE YOU BIG BAG OF WIND — JW has lost all credibility and taken LaToilet with her.

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:39 pm

      *applause*

  197. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 2:37 pm

    How to explain the “strategy” of having Mz Violence still on? Surely all indications suggest that she is annoying more than instructing. Why keep her on? Its like having a dentist keep drilling even after you gave him –90% of ALL communication is non-verbal remember– LOTS of signs you’d had ENOUGH!

  198. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 2:38 pm

    What’s the orange thing on the defense table. Looks like a vibrator… Sorry, but couldn’t rule that out with who’s seated there.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 2:40 pm

      Truth!!!! 🙂

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 2:41 pm

      LOL!

    • 04/11/2013 at 2:47 pm

      Astroglide

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 2:50 pm

        I KNEW you would say that 🙂

      • 04/11/2013 at 2:53 pm

        had to be done!

  199. NapaNonnie
    04/11/2013 at 2:38 pm

    Re leading a double life: How would la Toilet know how Travis’ family felt or knew about his virginity or not? Has la Toilet spoken to the family or as usual is this based on what WOBO lied to her about.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:39 pm

      All her bs and lies!

  200. PK
    04/11/2013 at 2:41 pm

    I am so glad that my undergraduate major was biochemistry and my career in law has been focused on patents and trademarks in civil court not criminal defense because i could not sleep at night if I had to thoroughly trash the victim of a murder to somehow or in any way reduce the perpetrators responsibility for the crime. Choices are apparently limited for lawyers with undergraduate degrees in the easy A subject majors to stoop so low to make a living in my opinion.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 2:58 pm

      Well I must say your choices sounds like they were based on a sense of life offering “psychic incomes”. (my mantra) and you were able to enjoy intellectual stimulation in study and profession. Not all people get the choice to do that- for whatever reason.

      In our system the role of defense lawyer in some cases can seem very admirable. Because people like Gideon and Miranda needed defense lawyers, we have the right to an attorney if we cant afford one in a criminal case, and we have to be informed about that when arrested..

      Power in all countries tend to limit rights; the “defense” of them is a noble profession. However, in OUR system of win/lose &do what it takes to “win” has the capitalistic foundadtion of our economic system. I’dlike to live in a country where the system placed truth above justice and trusted that truth would provide justice. We dont do that in the States. Consequently, where in academia, one can pursue ideas for their own worth, in the criminal courts ,one pursues ideas for their money’s worth. Big difference. Such a system feeds on those who wouldn’t know ‘psychic incom’e if it came to them with wings and trumpets in the night.

  201. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:41 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I see Nurmi’s salmon colored shirt hanging out of the back. He needs a quick tuck. Or perhaps he is a no tuck kind of guy?

  202. 04/11/2013 at 2:41 pm

    donchais :
    Just a reminder, court starts at 10:30 PT today.
    Tomorrow, yes Friday, will run from 9:30 to 12:30 PT.

    How much does anyone want to bet that the DF eats up 2 1/2 hrs of the 3 hour court session tomorrow with pretrial/sidebar shenanigans…..and the other 1/2 hr with potty breaks for Lady Depends??

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 2:42 pm

      As donchais would say – sucker bet! 🙂

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 3:00 pm

      Which, will add up to about 30mins of actual court time tomorrow 😛

  203. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:42 pm

    Now she’s a double life expert!!! Gimme a break!!!

  204. 04/11/2013 at 2:44 pm

    whaaaaaaaaaaaaat !!!!!!!!!!! did she just try to associate Travis with being a sociopath????? WHAAAAAATTT then back off and say he didn’t present as one… WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SCK
      04/11/2013 at 2:46 pm

      I can’t stand it….

  205. SCK
    04/11/2013 at 2:45 pm

    Here’s what I would have loved Martinez to ask her: “So you didn’t believe the WRITTEN word of Mr. Alexander that he was frightened of Ms. Arias, but you DID believe the UNWRITTEN word that she was a battered woman?” (This has probably already been noted – but I just had to get it off my chest) I just want to scream and pull her hair out!

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 2:46 pm

      Please rant – better than letting it fester inside!!!

      • SCK
        04/11/2013 at 2:51 pm

        Well I just got an email that my wine shipment arrived – might just have to pop a bottle!

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 2:53 pm

        SHH! Don’t left CiCis read that. Not sure if she wants anything to do with wine today 🙂

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 5:45 pm

      It has been noted but u put it very succinctly and I do think he hit on it, maybe not in as direct a fashion as you did. I think the jury gets it though.

  206. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:45 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    You know testimony is stale when even the note taker juror is just fiddling with his pen and not using it to take notes

  207. 04/11/2013 at 2:45 pm

    oh my god that was so planted.. to undermine the prosecution’s witness!!! wow!!!!!!!!! I am floored!!!!!!

  208. 04/11/2013 at 2:46 pm

    planned a really good lie… when has she EVER come up with a really good lie pulease!!! objection! Foundation!!!!!!

  209. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:47 pm

    OMG SHE’s DONE!!!!!! TYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:49 pm

      She’s done?! Or just lunch recess?

    • SCK
      04/11/2013 at 2:52 pm

      Are you sure???? It would be a big HALLELUJAH if she is!!!

  210. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Gues she heard you Robert about cutting her losses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

  211. Marilyn N
    04/11/2013 at 2:47 pm

    HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!

  212. truejustice
    04/11/2013 at 2:48 pm

    WHAT – if ms arias was a good liar – she would have planned a really good lie. Seems like she did plan a really good lie – unfortunately like most chronic liars – they are not as smart as they think they are. When her lies didn’t work she kept coming up with new ones till she found one that would work for her. Now that is IMO the very definition of a chronic liar

    • 04/11/2013 at 3:11 pm

      Now she is an “expert” on really good lies. When someone lies how many do they get before you finally believe them????? ALV is a wack job. Are her pants on fire yet???

    • Anniefreeze
      04/11/2013 at 3:39 pm

      Well said!

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 5:46 pm

      Just because someone is a psychopath doesn’t mean they’re a smart psychopath!

  213. 04/11/2013 at 2:51 pm

    notice she ended same place as Juan… Juan saying Arias is a sociopath…. alyce ending associating Travis with a sociopath… can you say CONTRIVED

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 5:47 pm

      Yes, contrived!

  214. Anniefreeze
    04/11/2013 at 2:52 pm

    Jim, you decide…do you think toilet can use the word ….integrity……

    btw.love your additions on here. You also add so much detailed info, like so many others do. Thank you.

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 3:09 pm

      It was one of the first words to go on our list…I think AL believes she is full of it, but is only right about that in one respect; and that word begins with an “S”, not an “I”…

  215. truejustice
    04/11/2013 at 2:52 pm

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn’t exist.
    (love that movie )

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 2:56 pm

      Hope Juanderful uses that in his closing!

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 2:59 pm

      You mention my hope, it is that one day JA meets him upclose.

  216. Marilyn N
    04/11/2013 at 2:52 pm

    LEGAL PEEPS: If a mitigation specialist is for the death penalty phase, and is based on defendants life prior to the killing,
    what issues would they be discussing all throughout the trial?

    • Jim
      04/11/2013 at 3:07 pm

      She is looking for “hot buttons” to play with….

      • Marilyn N
        04/11/2013 at 3:15 pm

        Like what, for example?
        Thanks, Jim!

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 3:21 pm

        Also keeping a keen eye on the jury. Attempting to get an impression about how they are responding to everything from certain lines of inquiry to how Jodi is dressed, how her hair is styled, whether she smiles or looks sad, etc. They are looking for anything and everything that they think could create sympathy for the defendant such that someone might be inclined to have some mercy on her in the event of a penalty phase.

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 3:38 pm

        I think juror questions would be the big bonus for her – almost like being able to ask the jurors what’s on their mind…..

  217. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 2:54 pm

    I can listen to AL and JM and apparently not actually hear a word they say! That’s how good I am 😉

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 3:01 pm

      OMGOODNESS, meeeeeee tooooooooooooo.

  218. Tami Marie Bancroft
    04/11/2013 at 2:55 pm

    This case appears to be going forever. Is there ever going to be an end?

  219. 04/11/2013 at 2:56 pm

    that is the most disgusting moment of this trial for me. they know what’s coming so they get in first and undermine a diagnosis of sociopath by already planting it in the juries mind associated with Travis.

    oooohhh I knew it was deliberate by Alyce.. she has just gone lower than words can describe. I feel like I’m going to throw up I am so disgusted.

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 3:03 pm

      I know, but remember we have the Juanster, the Juananator, between alv and the Juanster, the Juanster is the better man!

      • 04/11/2013 at 3:10 pm

        that doesn’t matter. The fact the defense did this is outrageous.

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 3:04 pm

      And she is looking for a pity party from the public? What a piece of shite!!!

      • JesusFreak
        04/11/2013 at 3:05 pm

        YOU tell em Chrissie!

      • 04/11/2013 at 3:11 pm

        oh Chrissie Im about to never watch a moment of this trial again. I’m shaking with disgust right now.

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 3:47 pm

        I understand and I’m so sorry sweetpea, let’s hope we will get some retribution with the juror questions this afternoon 😉

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 3:06 pm

      I gotta wtach later when on U-Tube then. Only to actually hear something lie that would I put on thevolume. Oh. Cant wait if that was th elowest point in a trial filled with below the belt moments

      • 04/11/2013 at 3:09 pm

        wish youn had have been listening Robert… Im beyond outraged. I need info about how it came up.

      • 04/11/2013 at 3:13 pm

        you have some understanding of the significance though?

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 3:36 pm

      My sentiments are yours. I am disgusted but not surprised. The defense, all of them, KNOW her true diagnosis and of course are striking the anticipatory blow to have a subliminal effect on the jurors.

      That all of their case strategy has depended on this defendant’s pack of lies and that the court has sanctioned this is a true and valid concern of mine. I do NOT understand the legal basis for allowing ANY testimony of Travis’ so called pedophile activities since the 10 letters were cut & paste jobs with advance photo-shop properties without any originals and found by the court to be inadmissible.

      That all of this testimony HAS been allowed it makes me believe that the court is willingly and knowingly perpetrated a fraud upon the court process. As Wendy Murphy said on the radio program, we are taught that a trial is about a search for the truth but Wendy stated that unfortunately, nothing could be farther from the truth. The court system is ruled by who WINS – that is all that matters.

      It’s not cynical to call a spade a spade. The reality of the justice system leaves me wanting to advocate for many changes. I also do not believe that the scales of justice in this case have been equally weighed. There is a mountain of very compelling evidence that has been judged too prejudicial to come in, even though it’s the TRUTH (like the getaway car with 2 knives and the 9mm gun, Paul Stern’s statements that she told him that she HAD to get to Mesa to see Travis. Stern described her as frantic to go to Mesa and loaned her $$ to go, some of the parts of the interrogation videos etc) If these are not allowed then how in the world would constant declarative claims of Travis being a pedophile be allowed and without even a smidgen of corroborative evidence?

      • 04/11/2013 at 3:43 pm

        Here our justice system is about getting to the truth. It is not about a game of obfuscation, smoke and mirrors and lie at all costs to prove you are somehow better. How is deceit better in a justice system? surely that is an insurmountable paradox.

  220. Marilyn N
    04/11/2013 at 2:57 pm

    JM tossing pen topic – A day or two ago someone asked where to find the video of JM
    tossing the pen. It is on Day 36 part 2 at aprox the 17:20 time mark. 😊

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 4:02 pm

      Thanks Marilyn! I just watched that clip. All Juan does here is toss his pen back on the podium and it rolls off and falls to the ground. I saw nothing aggressive about this at all. Wurmi is seriously grasping at straws if this is his definition of Prosecutorial Misconduct. What a joke!

  221. Anniefreeze
    04/11/2013 at 3:02 pm

    My fav line of the day from HLN. goes something like this. “defense has a hard job, it is like swimming up Niagra Falls.” per defense attny guest (???name) who had death trials with Juan. HLN=pause, fast forward, play, pause…..etc.

  222. 04/11/2013 at 3:07 pm

    where did that association with sociopath come from?… all of a sudden I heard lala saying she didn’t think Travis was a sociopath… I’d tuned out and had been only hearing blah blah blah……..where did that come from???

    Did JW ask if she thought Travis was a sociopath? surely not because Juan would have objected as LaLa is not qualified to use the officially use the DSM to diagnose it and that would have been sustained.

    • Marilyn N
      04/11/2013 at 3:13 pm

      I know! I was taken aback as well. Possibly she thought it went along with the topic
      of saying Travis was leading a double life and his lies, etc. ……?

      • 04/11/2013 at 3:15 pm

        no no no!!! it was nothing to do with that there is no connection to be made with that at all! It was deliberate misrepresentation to link in then juries mind to undermine the prosecutions witness testifying to Jodi being a sociopath.

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 3:42 pm

        YES Syn – it was just as you describe. It was calculated & predictable.

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 5:09 pm

      All I know is Travis called Jodi a sociopath.

  223. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 3:10 pm

    The article by Michael Keifer in USA Today & also posted on azcentral.com is typical of MK. I have heard some of KatieCoolLady’s comments about him on Webslueths/Tricia’s True Crime Radio earlier installments from several weeks ago. She knows him personally and said that he is burnt out and firmly in the defense camp. MK was also the person who wrote the article stating that the defense was getting death threats and needed a security detail to escort them in and out of court. KatieCoolLady is the person who took that picture that proved that no security was in place one business day after MK published that article. She got photographic evidence of it and commented that no security escorts have ever been in place. Thankfully, with that 1st article, CNN then confirmed that the Maricopa Sheriff’s office denied that there had been any death threats. KCL is a confirmed verifiable source of truthful and fair information, IMO.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 3:20 pm

      PR. This type thinks “all news about me is good news about me.”She’ll see.

  224. WhereIsSHE
    04/11/2013 at 3:14 pm

    Syntara :the point is how ridiculous the scenario presented is. Yet 4 ppl didn’t see through it! Astounding!

    It is!
    Just remember that all of the jurors in the case of Florida vs. Casey Anthony agreed to find her NOT GUILTY on all counts except those related to the lies she told to law enforcement.

    But that is what you risk when you try a case. You never know who you are going to get on that jury.
    *Having said that, the conviction rate is pretty high in major felony cases, AND we have had the rare pleasure of seeing glimpses of what THIS jury is thinking, particularly after the questions they posed to the defendant and Dr. Samuels.
    Cannot wait to see what they ask LaViolette.

    • 04/11/2013 at 3:24 pm

      WhereIsShe … i do not know anything about the Anthony trial except for a documentary I watched done by Dr G..(she did the autopsy and forensic pathology on the little girl). I respect that woman immensely and if her findings were anything to go by it is astonishing there was a not guilty verdict.

      So I’m well aware it’s very much in the hands of those 12 people.. I so wholeheartedly agree with you regarding jury questions in this trial. If not for those I would have logged off in disgust by now. I’m hoping they will reestablish my faith in human nature and a modicum of intelligent life and common decency.beyond the side of the prosecution in this case.

  225. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 3:14 pm

    Syntara :
    that doesn’t matter. The fact the defense did this is outrageous.

    You are so right, but in the end we will win. Keep the end in site.

  226. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 3:15 pm

    You know that remnds me of a story told about Lyndon Johnson who was as dirty as they come in his field. getting ready for an election, he told his advisers he wanted them to spread the word that his opponent liked spending his nights in the barnyard. his advisors said, “Lyndon, we can’t go around and call the guy a pigfucker!” LBJ answered, “No, but you can can make the son-of-abitch deny it!”

    Its the old trick. Try and get the guys name & the word pigfucker in the same sentence.
    “I am not a communist; I am not a crook” “I am not a pedophile”
    Old trick. Dirty. Done by dirt people.

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 3:21 pm

      And that is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

    • 04/11/2013 at 3:28 pm

      exactly. that’s what they did that’s what I’m saying.. that’s why Im outrage and disgusted. I knew they were low and desperate. But this is not a justice system… this is a slander fest.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 3:46 pm

      Robert, love this comment of yours!!!

  227. Nancy Pennington
    04/11/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Wondering about the in chambers confab with TA sisters Could it be that someone from the def side is complaining about them crying in court and the judge is addressing that with them? Could she be so assinine as to threaten to have them removed because the def thinks that would sway the jury???? Please some legal brain here tell me that could not happen?????pleazzzzz

  228. Schaeffer
    04/11/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Can someone please provide me a brief recap of this morning’s proceedings? I admit I am unable to watch.

    • donchais
      04/11/2013 at 3:51 pm

      This is from what will be today’s blog…GRRRRRRRR…this is serving no other purpose than trashing Travis, yet again, and throwing him under the Jodi bus!

      • Schaeffer
        04/11/2013 at 4:16 pm

        Brilliant!!!! Are you getting a live feed from the court stenographer? I’m sure that’s what they have all been wishing they could transcribe, and frankly, who could tell the difference?

  229. 04/11/2013 at 3:21 pm

    MMD :
    They’ve never heard of that notion!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Unless you put it in a motion!

  230. Jim
    04/11/2013 at 3:22 pm

    Marilyn N :
    LEGAL PEEPS: If a mitigation specialist is for the death penalty phase, and is based on defendants life prior to the killing,
    what issues would they be discussing all throughout the trial?

    I think WhereIsShe will do a better job of answering this – I was not on that end of the schtick..

  231. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/11/2013 at 3:23 pm

    Syntara :
    no no no!!! it was nothing to do with that there is no connection to be made with that at all! It was deliberate misrepresentation to link in then juries mind to undermine the prosecutions witness testifying to Jodi being a sociopath.

    This line prompted the LBJ quote below

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/11/2013 at 3:25 pm

      mean above.
      Rabbit Hole Down is Up White is Black. below means above

      • 04/11/2013 at 3:34 pm

        yesterday is today.. today is tomorow etc etc

  232. Schaeffer
    04/11/2013 at 3:30 pm

    Crystal Harris — I don’t know squat about twitter, so if this is not possible, just say so. Can you tell the time on any twitter messages from WOBO yesterday? I have watched the video (sans audio) of yesterday’s re-direct, and I am relatively certain WOBO was up to no good while she had her arms in the jacket sleeves. She spent way too much time looking down, like she had something in her lap; it was one of the few times she wasn’t writing in that damn journal. Of course, Wurmi was so busy reclining and the deputy was nowhere to be seen, so she was free to carry on. If anyone wants to double check, I watched the video posted by croakerqueen, day 44, part 4, and it starts about 1:25.

    PS I keep expecting to see Wurmi go ass over teakettle one of these days. I don’t know how that chair hasn’t given way by now. His posture is so disrespectful. The Judge should DEMAND he sit up.

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 3:34 pm

      If the judge demanded he sit up, he would yell MISTRIAL!

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 3:45 pm

      Somebody ought to just slap a beer in his hand! He sits there like he’s in a bar watching the game- so entirely disrespectful. Although, I do like that he completely ignores JA, vs Perky smiling and whispering with her clone BFF.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 3:54 pm

      Yes, recent Twitter messages will say “2hrs ago” or whatever it is on each message.

    • Elexa
      04/11/2013 at 4:16 pm

      Schaeffer – “I don’t know squat about twitter, so if this is not possible, just say so. Can you tell the time on any twitter messages from WOBO yesterday?”

      Click on “Expand” below the tweet, it will show the date and time. I have no idea though if it’s PST, CST, EST or whatST.

  233. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 3:38 pm

    Test

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 3:40 pm

      I think you passed with flying colors- Hi Tracey!

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 3:49 pm

        Hey FofL! Thanks! 🙂

  234. Family of Law
    04/11/2013 at 3:39 pm

    Hello all- I’ve missed most of JW’s redirect today- had a crisis this morning that kept me busy- I’ve popped in here a few times just to stay in touch- thanks to you all, I think I’m glad I didn’t have to sit through all of Perky’s repeat, ad nauseum, blah, blah, blah.

    Looking forward to jury questions- I hope they reveal that the jury is not buying what LaV was selling.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 3:49 pm

      Are all your darling animals A OK?

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 4:37 pm

        Hi Nancy:) yes, mine are all good! We have a large barn, and now only have four horses. A few years back we became involved with a group HAHS (Hooved Animal Humane Society). We from time to time are able to fill an empty stall with horses, sheep, and an occasional pot bellied pig, that have been abused or neglected- I got a call from a rescue worker this morning that a 6 year old Bay was in desperate need of a place to recover- We are relatively new to this, but by far, the saddest case I’ve ever encountered (tears were falling- even my BURLY (think Lorne Greene!) barn manager was choking up). This horse is severely malnourished, and had been stabbed with a pitchfork! Had multiple fungal infections, etc- Horrific. After being in critical care for 3 weeks, he’s now ready for the next phase in his recovery. He seems very happy to be here and now with lots of TLC, I think he will be a success story:)

      • sndlywhplsh
        04/11/2013 at 7:21 pm

        Oh my gosh FofL, you are my hero. I have two rescued cats; one spent about half a year under the couch, only sneaking out to eat or use the box when he thought the coast was clear. He’d fly into a panic if I ever accidentally caught him “out.” Poor guy. He very slowly started trusting me, and now, a couple of years down the road, he’s just a big, furry, funny ball of luv. Thank you for what you’re doing for the ungulates!

  235. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 3:39 pm

    Good, I’m back…

  236. Wendy
    04/11/2013 at 3:39 pm

    Hi everyone! Been off all morning, did I miss anything?

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 3:45 pm

      Same old bs then the JW through something in about Travis being a sociopath and then rested on the re-direct. Jury questions up next.

  237. 04/11/2013 at 3:41 pm

    Hi Everybody….I was wondering if she got a hold of wilma’s cell phone; it was on the table a couple days ago. Looks to me as though she’s texting. Just a thought. Let’s get on with the juror’s questions. Justice for Travis via our Main Man Martinez.

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 3:56 pm

      I saw that too!!

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 5:21 pm

        Hey Sweetie! Just thought I’d jump in and give a ****wave****! Sorry if I missed ya up top somewhere. Running around the house getting stuff done today. 🙂

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 5:29 pm

        S’okay, I could feel yer good vibes 🙂 Good you are getting stuff done, proud of ye – I should be doing that too – lol

    • Schaeffer
      04/11/2013 at 4:20 pm

      I also thought she was texting. Crystal, were there any messages time stamped during court hours? Sorry I didn’t make that clear in my earlier post.

      • Crystal Harris
        04/11/2013 at 5:39 pm

        Not sure…but even if there were, it would just be claimed that her friend did it for her.

  238. 04/11/2013 at 3:53 pm

    😱…….. 😡……….👿 ………🔥……….💥

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 4:00 pm

      Coolio 🙂

      • 04/11/2013 at 4:03 pm

        That’s me building up to explode Chrissie See the stages?

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 4:11 pm

        Yep, I’m waiting for the cooling down period 😉

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 4:17 pm
    • 04/11/2013 at 4:53 pm

      Syn~~ I was close thought you were saying ; I am mad as the devil and firing up to explode!!

  239. 04/11/2013 at 3:56 pm

    Off topic…..I got into Nursing school!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So freaking excited!!! I’ve been waiting for a decision about whether I got in since this trial started…..I have been flipping back and forth between this website and the schools website checking 100-freaking times a day!! I’m am so psyched! Just hope this trial is over before nursing school starts! Lol! Won’t be able to concentrate if it isn’t!!!

    • donchais
      04/11/2013 at 3:57 pm

      Hearty congrats!

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 3:57 pm

      Congrats!

    • 04/11/2013 at 3:59 pm

      Gratz 🙂

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/11/2013 at 4:00 pm

      How exciting!! My (Ci Ci) oldest granddaughter is on a waiting list as well and it’s been very stressful for her. Congratulations!

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 4:01 pm

      Wonderful!!! 😛

    • 04/11/2013 at 4:02 pm

      Thanks, guys. Donchais….see my quote below.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:10 pm

      High Fives!!! Very exciting news and from one RN to a future RN – the best is yet to come!!!

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 4:25 pm

      Congrats darlin’ – proud of you!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

    • 04/11/2013 at 5:29 pm

      Congrats and best wishes..very exciting!

  240. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/11/2013 at 3:58 pm

    This is interesting reading from the HLN site. We found it on the wild about Trial twit site. We couldn’t paste the link because it doesn’t work for us from the IPAd so we pasted the context of the article. Notice where the doctor states that we can only be in one mode at a time….flight or fight! JA could not have been in flight mode as she indicated on the stand….she was in FIGHT mode!! Bottom line…..JA is a big LIAR!!

    ********************************************************************************************************

    Editor’s note: Farnaz-Namin Hedayati, Ph.D., Doctor of Corporate Psychology and Principal and Founder of Center for Work Life. She is on Twitter.

    Did Jodi Arias suffer from such severe emotional abuse that she was led to brutally murder her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander? Or is Jodi indeed lying, as many people seem to believe?

    Arias claims she killed Alexander in self-defense, and her attorneys have introduced the idea of post-traumatic stress disorder to support her case. Even though there have been instances where victims have turned around and become perpetrators of crimes to relieve the symptoms they can’t otherwise quiet down, in Arias’ case, the claim that past physical and emotional abuse caused her to defend herself and murder Alexander does not apply.

    It is a physiological impossibility. Here’s why.

    Within the process of “fight or flight” — also known as the sympathetic vs. parasympathetic nervous system responses — chemicals like adrenaline, noradrenaline and cortisol are released into our bloodstream. This causes our body to undergo a series of very dramatic changes. Our respiratory rate increases. Blood is shunted away from our digestive tract and directed into our muscles and limbs. Our pupils dilate. Our awareness intensifies. Our sight sharpens. Our impulses quicken.

    In short, we become prepared, physically and psychologically, to fight or flee. Based on the evidence presented in court, Arias was in “fight” mode and attacked Travis. This attack would have required a high level of arousal, which is only possible when one is experiencing the heightened sympathetic nervous system or the “fight” response.

    Since an individual can only experience one neurological response at a time, Arias could not have been in “flight” mode, as she has claimed: She could not have been attacking and running away at the same time.

    Furthermore, Arias claims memory loss in support of her self-defense argument. She has testified that, due to the gravity of the event and her extremely heightened level of arousal, she has no memory of stabbing Travis or slitting his throat.

    Considering the fact that she has not described any memories of the murder, even in the form of “flashbacks,” leads me to believe that Arias has committed pre-meditated murder.

    The question isn’t whether she was emotionally abused. She could very well have been, even by Travis. However, whether emotionally abused or not, she did not kill in defense mode, because even Arias could not be in two physiological states at the same time.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:08 pm

      THANKS!!! OMG – this is so simple and so TRUE! Excellent description Dr. Farnaz-Namin Hedayati, Ph.D., BRAVO!

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:16 pm

      I’m so excited about this – I meant to also say that I had a momentary and fleeting thought about this during her direct testiphony about the murder but did not remember this all important fact until you posted this comment!

      “Since an individual can only experience one neurological response at a time, Arias could not have been in “flight” mode, as she has claimed: She could not have been attacking and running away at the same time.”

  241. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 3:59 pm

    hw very exciting. enjoy every minute of school and learn a bunch, but come back to the blog for family occasionally.

  242. Chrissie A
    04/11/2013 at 3:59 pm

    Sweep it under the rug whydoncha?

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 4:04 pm

      She does kinda resembles Ms. Doubtfire 🙂 LOL

      • JesusFreak
        04/11/2013 at 4:16 pm

        Ok, Chrissie, may show my age, but this is your best one so far. It is fantastically wonderful!!!

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 4:23 pm

        Tx guys 😛

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:23 pm

      Chrissie – You have a real gift with these creations! I especially love the framed Girl Love, astroglide with vibrator and sweepin’ up the KY & wrappers! You are truly a hidden talent!!! 🙂

      • Chrissie A
        04/11/2013 at 4:24 pm

        Tx Nancy ~hugs~

  243. 04/11/2013 at 4:01 pm

    Thanks, guys!! Donchais…thanks for what you do here…with this website…and your devotion to the Alexander family….and making sure they get justice. I don’t know what I would have done if I hadn’t found this website. I want to become a nurse, because helping others is what I want to devote my life to. I am glad there are people like you in this world. You make the world a good place to be. Thank you so much!

  244. Jay
    04/11/2013 at 4:03 pm

    Hope one of the jurors asks her how many male victims of domestic abuse she has ever allowed in her program., And how many female perpetrators has she tried to rehabilitate.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 4:05 pm

      Excellent question!

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:26 pm

      From your mouth to theirs, oh I so pray such a sensible and intelligent question is among this group of juror questions. I don’t really think that it will be but I would LOVE to be wrong on this.

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:41 pm

      Now I’m fixated on your core question! Oh how wonderful it would be to have the chance to hear ALV have to admit that she has treated ZERO male victims and ZERO female perps!

  245. Gracerv7
    04/11/2013 at 4:03 pm

    MD6953 I think she has been tweeting but through her friend in court. I saw on My Crime Time blog that her tweets are as follows: “Hmm… anger management problems anyone?”, and “those afflicted with “Little Man’s Syndrome” taint society’s perception of genuinely good men who happen to be vertically challenged”. Looks like Arias believes she is not only a photographer, an artist but now a poet? She also had a message for HLN’s Nancy Grace, who pointed out that Arias appeared to be flipping the bird to Dr. Richard Samuels one day in court – this was her own defense expert. Arias tweeted “Actually Nancy, that finger was for you. Have a nice day”

    It also said there is nothing that can be done because its not her account. So disrespectful if this is in fact true! Too bad the jury won’t be able to see this!

  246. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 4:04 pm

    Soooo glad the redirect is finished! At one point, ALV agreed with JW that an “isolated incident” (Jodi lying–according to her father–at fourteen) and then lying after June, 2008 did not create a “pattern.” By that “reasoning,” those abusive incidents that happened to her as a child should not be part of an abusive/victim pattern either. Either things that happen to us (or ways we act) as children count or they don’t. According to the defense, they only count sometimes.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/11/2013 at 5:33 pm

      Except when she talks about Travis’ childhood. (Gag)

  247. stephanie
    04/11/2013 at 4:07 pm

    Hello everyone, I have been reading everyone’s comments for weeks now and I am a I am a long time listener first time caller, (cue Delilah) I don’t know if anyone will understand that joke but oh well. I enjoy this site in all it’s hilarity, I thought I would jump in here and put my opinion in on her Twitter crap, I read that according to the news report, Jodi’s attorneys are aware of her Tweeting and “apparently they aren’t very happy about it.”

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 4:20 pm

      Could a legal eagle answer this question? Isn’t that contempt of court, or reason to put cuffs on?

      • Jim
        04/11/2013 at 5:27 pm

        I can speak to the security part – The Sheriff’s Deputy in the court room is responsible for monitoring the Defendant, and seeing to any special security conditions that the court has ordered. I doubt dealing with that type of issue would be visible to us, other than maybe changing or adding Deputies.

        I am the one that raised the concern over Wilmott leaving her cell on the table unattended – Here where I am, there would have been an immediate reaction to that, as we consider it a breach of security. You don’t typically see a prisoner transition from invisible restraints (the ERD) she is wearing, to cuffs and shackles, unless they act out AND the court is concerned about a repeat.

        In this case, the court has attempted to keep the jury from “knowing” that this Defendant is in custody – cuffs and shackles would be a dead giveaway, hence the ERD. The court has even gone out of its way to keep the jury from noticing the hump the ERD creates under JA’s clothing.

        (JA did inadvertently inform the jury that she was in custody when she made the remark that TA’s “closet was bigger than the cell she lives in” despite everyone’s efforts to keep that prejudice from being revealed)

    • Elexa
      04/11/2013 at 4:21 pm

      I can imagine that they aren’t very happy. I mean, isn’t this stuff that can be entered in the DP phase to show what a fine, upstanding(?) prisoner she is?

      She’s practically begging for that needle.

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 4:24 pm

        She did already say “I did this Travis I would beg for the dealth penalty”…

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 4:51 pm

        No. That would not be relevant, admissible evidence in either phase of this trial.
        Try to remember the ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME. The evidence offered by the state has to be relevant to proving those elements and/or to refuting Jodi’s defense. IF she is posting tweets, it doesn’t matter if they do not provide evidence that she committed the crime with which she is charged.
        And in the penalty phase, assuming there will be one, the state’s evidence has to do with the CRUELTY of the crime (and not whether she is tweeting anything). You don’t put someone to death because they send tweets. You put them to death because of the heinous, cruelty with which they commited the crime.

  248. donchais
    04/11/2013 at 4:08 pm

    wheresthejustice :

    Thanks, guys!! Donchais…thanks for what you do here…with this website…and your devotion to the Alexander family….and making sure they get justice. I don’t know what I would have done if I hadn’t found this website. I want to become a nurse, because helping others is what I want to devote my life to. I am glad there are people like you in this world. You make the world a good place to be. Thank you so much!

    For a great, long time, my personal philosophy has been…once, just once, find one thing to be truly passionate about. With luck, you will be given an opportunity to follow that passion.

    I was truly fortunate to find mine. You have yours now…follow it with all the gusto you have!

    • 04/11/2013 at 4:18 pm

      Thank you so much.

    • JesusFreak
      04/11/2013 at 4:22 pm

      Said like a true Donchais!

  249. 04/11/2013 at 4:10 pm

    Im going to catch the rest on youtube… Im too disgusted to watch this without being able to FF it at the moment . Hope jury questions are next and they have some good ones.

    **** waves****

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 4:11 pm

      Bye!

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 4:22 pm

      Oh, feel better Syn, do something nice for yourself and forget about this for a while – you’ve given so much, please take some relaxation time for you ~mucho virtual hugs~

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 4:30 pm

      bye Syn *******waves***** and {{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:30 pm

      I heart you!!! (((((hugs))))

    • 04/11/2013 at 5:05 pm

      Bye Syn~~~~XO

  250. Wendy
    04/11/2013 at 4:11 pm

    I just looked at her tweets. kind of reminded me of how she taunted TA

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 4:14 pm

      She thinks is better, smarter and witter than everyone else. And likes to use it. Did you hear people saying how she likes to correct others on their grammar?

    • Elexa
      04/11/2013 at 4:25 pm

      Have you read any of the replies TO her yet? I bet that Dunnoman isn’t relaying all of them to dear Ho.

  251. njrose
    04/11/2013 at 4:19 pm

    Hi everyone. I was just watching ALV explaining the JW Travis’ “double life”, and how he would lose his standing in the community if he was outted …. blah, blah, blah. But, I wonder if the jury would consider this: his angry texts to JA are really because he’s angry with himself. Because, perhaps he was torn between following his faith and being an average young man with a healthy sex drive. I think JA brought a level of sex into his life that he never experienced. And, maybe he hated himself for not being about to stay away from her. She manipulated the hell out of him, and on some level I think he knew that and was angry with himself and took it out in his texts. But, does that make him an abuser …… hell no !

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 4:22 pm

      I agree with you on that. I hope the jury can see it that way.

    • Ria
      04/11/2013 at 4:28 pm

      njrose, I also heard that Travis had sought counseling through his Church and was actively trying to work through this. To me, that proves that he was going through turmoil with wanting to be a good Mormon and Jodi constantly luring him back with sex. I believe he was very conflicted inside, Jodi knew this and she knew exactly how to break his resolve with her manipulative ways. She’s evil through and through.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/11/2013 at 5:10 pm

      I couldn’t agree with you more, njrose. Travis even wrote about it. He said they both needed discipline and that it was for the best that Jodi was moving away.
      Jodi used sex to sabotage him, much the way a spouse might bring unhealthy, fattening foods into the house in an attempt to sabotage their significant other’s attempt to lose weight or just live a more healthy life.
      I think it’s likely that she also threatened to expose their active sex life to others in order to keep him involved evn after she engaged in some very serious stalking behaviors (tire-slashing, in particular, because that is actually quite serious criminal conduct vs. the non-criminal conduct, such as moving TO Mesa after the break-up).

      I, too, hope the jury sees this.

      • njrose
        04/11/2013 at 5:32 pm

        I think it’s likely that she also threatened to expose their active sex life to others in order to keep him involved evn after she engaged in some very serious stalking behaviors
        WhereIsSHE: I definitely believe she did that as well, blackmail ! Oh, I’m getting so fired up over this whole thing !!

  252. Gracerv7
    04/11/2013 at 4:22 pm

    That doesn’t surprise me at all! If she was at least humble and apologetic it would go to her credit…but she’s just so smug and self-righteous it makes me sick! Damn I want to slap her! I can’t believe how ANGRY this trial is making me. It truly is good versus evil.

  253. Jay
    04/11/2013 at 4:26 pm

    Can I ask a newbie like question about reading this blog (it might help other iPad users like me who are having problems navigating around)?

    When I load the comments, each time I default to the first comments at the top. Sometimes like today there are hundreds of them, and it takes forever to get down to the most recent ones. Are there any shortcuts around this? Or a way to load the newest entries to the top of the page?

    And is there a way to have new comments automatically appear without reloading the page?on the iPad, even spreading the text, trying to hit the reload arrow is a pain in the butt, and I’m constantly tapping the wrong button or tab and having to reload from scratch. Therefore after posting a comment I have to go back and reload again to see it and anything that’s been posted during that time.

    Any fixes or do I have to get tentacles to replace my thick thumbs?

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:33 pm

      Syn is the go to person that I know of, for this topic, and she just left in disgust but she will be back later on.

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 4:48 pm

        I’m trying to reach her. She’s beyond pissed and I don’t blame her a bit. 😦

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/11/2013 at 4:45 pm

      We have the same problem. If we could “cntrl end” or “pg up or pg dn” like you do on a normal keyboard that would help, but on the IPAD you don’t have a lot of options. We ordered a keyboard attachment as one of the peeps here suggested. Good idea!

    • Anniefreeze
      04/11/2013 at 5:10 pm

      I’m use an ipad. I have not found any really good shortcuts but am still looking. However, I have found one tip helpful. When you scroll down thru the comments, to speed it up, swipe from bottom left to top right corners. Do this in the middle of the pad, a 3 or 4 inch swipe, stay away from edges. And when moving the pad be aware of these ⬅ 🔄. ( they mess up my place in the comments line all the time, urrrrrrggghhhh.)

  254. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 4:26 pm

    pls, i repeat, isn’t texting good reason for handcuffs or contempt of court?

    • 04/11/2013 at 4:39 pm

      Agreed, JF!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/11/2013 at 4:48 pm

      Was she texting in court? We didn’t listen to this mornings session. We didn’t want to hear the shit flowing again. We’re listening now and waiting for it to start now that we know the jury questions are coming!!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/11/2013 at 5:02 pm

      texting (allegedly) nasty little remarks about the prosecurot and/or Nancy Grace?
      No.

      Beyond that- pretty difficult to PROVE that JA is having someone else send tweets that she created unless that person admits, under oath, that such a thing is taking place.
      This is a non-issue that is only meant to get people worked up.
      Isn’t Travis’ murder enough?? That is what this case is about. A serious felony crime. Not tweets.

      Unless Jodi is threatening potential witnesses or court officers (including the prosecutor)–and it can be proven– this really is much ado about nothing.

  255. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 4:27 pm

    Judge just said, Ladies and gentlemen, it will be about another 30 min before we start.

  256. Nienna
    04/11/2013 at 4:27 pm

    Everyone hear? The Judge just announce it would be an 30 mins before we start.

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 4:31 pm

      That will mean an hour because they’re gonna argue about the questions from the jurors 😦 smh

      • JesusFreak
        04/11/2013 at 4:32 pm

        tilt.

      • Nienna
        04/11/2013 at 4:35 pm

        I bet.

      • Anniefreeze
        04/11/2013 at 5:41 pm

        MMD you called it, they must be having a war in those chambers.

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 5:01 pm

      Maybe “Olde Fashioned Alyce” is sick again – I know I’m sick of her!!!

  257. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 4:27 pm

    Wild About Trial is reporting that JW is done with her questions. Now we await Jury questions!!! Fantastic is that is true.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 4:29 pm

      Yes, it is.

      • Tracey A
        04/11/2013 at 4:33 pm

        Ty Nienna! Glad I have confirmation. Whew!

  258. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 4:28 pm

    Maybe the judge needs 30 min to read and collate the questions.

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 4:35 pm

      That’s my hope.

  259. Tracey A
    04/11/2013 at 4:29 pm

    They must going through the Jury questions. I can’t WAIT to hear these! Come back Syn…you won’t want to miss this.

  260. Gracerv7
    04/11/2013 at 4:29 pm

    If she was texting oh how I would love for the prosecution to get ahold of those!!!

  261. 04/11/2013 at 4:34 pm

    Someone waaaaay above said there was a link to something from Wendy Murphy – a radio show or something but I can’t find the message (there are so many on here). Can someone re-post the link to hear it???? 🙂

  262. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 4:35 pm

    Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 35m
    Met @WildAboutTrial today shhhhhhh 😉

    @katiecoolady @WildAboutTrial Was he wearing salmon? ;P

    Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady
    @Theladylaine @wildabouttrial no but he’s cute

    Adorable and funny!!! 🙂

  263. Catherine
    04/11/2013 at 4:38 pm

    Quite sure this has been answered before, but why does the defense team and ALV get to read juror questions before they are asked?

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 4:42 pm

      The prosecution does as well.

    • Nienna
      04/11/2013 at 4:47 pm

      So that they can make objections, if necessary, and remove the ones that cannot be asked .

  264. Family of Law
    04/11/2013 at 4:47 pm

    Family of Law :
    Hi Nancy:) yes, mine are all good! We have a large barn, and now only have four horses. A few years back we became involved with a group HAHS (Hooved Animal Humane Society). We from time to time are able to fill an empty stall with horses, sheep, and an occasional pot bellied pig, that have been abused or neglected- I got a call from a rescue worker this morning that a 6 year old Bay was in desperate need of a place to recover- We are relatively new to this, but by far, the saddest case I’ve ever encountered (tears were falling- even my BURLY (think Lorne Greene!) barn manager was choking up). This horse is severely malnourished, and had been stabbed with a pitchfork! Had multiple fungal infections, etc- Horrific. After being in critical care for 3 weeks, he’s now ready for the next phase in his recovery. He seems very happy to be here and now with lots of TLC, I think he will be a success story:)

    To Nancy- reposting here, because it was lost upstairs, and wanted to be certain you saw my response- it was so kind of you to ask:)

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 4:55 pm

      What wonderful work you do FOL! I’m sure under your care it will be indeed a success story! 🙂

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 5:28 pm

        Thank you MMD😌 (that square is a happy face)

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 4:55 pm

      Oh this is such a heart breaking thing to see and I adore you and love you for taking this doll baby in for healing and rehab! You are a real life hero to me. (((hugs))) This horse lucked up to finally be in the presence of all the loving care that is so well deserved. Stabbed with pitchfork and nearly starved, truly sickens me. I wish animal abuse laws were 100x more strict in all states. Thank-you for this update and please let us know the slow & steady progress as it happens. This is a v-e-r-y time consuming care giving situation, as you well know. You will be paid back in spades! You are the best!

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 5:24 pm

        Coming from an RN like you, I bow my head….

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 5:41 pm

        NancyB-
        I could not agree with you more. Animal abuse laws are a joke.
        Here in PA, animals are not even considered to be “sentient beings”, but insead are (legally speaking) considered to be “chattel” or PROPERTY, much in the same way a TABLE LAMP is a “chattel”. I am not kidding.

        We have been working–for YEARS– to get some simple legislatin passed to try to help protect dogs who are left out in the elements, chained or tethereed to a tree or whaver for 24 hrs without adequate shelter or water-0 and despite e fact that we have two state senators reintroducing the legislation every year, it does not pass.

        Dont get me started on the issueswe ave with the abuse of horses here, particularly in Philadelphia in the carriage industry, and really dont get me started on the pigeon shoots which are outlawed in every other state but PA.

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 4:58 pm

      God Bless You FofL for what you do to help these defenseless animals. This is a cause very near and dear to my heart. I have tears streaming down my cheeks now.

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 5:30 pm

        Dry your loving caring eyes- (passing tissue)- Thank you Tracey:)

    • Family of Law
      04/11/2013 at 5:22 pm

      You are all way too kind- This little boy has had a life I do not dare to imagine- he was removed from a “home” 40 miles from our place- the rescue worker dared to ride in the trailer with him! (if you know horses, that’s a brave move) the entire way here! The vets and immediate care workers have all of my respect- I get the fun part:) Hugs, kisses, rub downs and lots of oats and fattening treats!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/11/2013 at 5:27 pm

      Family of Law-
      I simply adore you. I truly do.
      Thank you for caring for those precious animals.
      (I do some volunteer animal rights/welfare activist work here in PA, but nothing as important as providing a haven for abused/tortured, innocent animals who need a safe and compassionate place to stay and recover from the horrors they suffered.)
      Thank you, thank you, a million times, thank you.

      • Family of Law
        04/11/2013 at 5:37 pm

        I’m overwhelmed by your words WIS- truly, I humbly bow…And I applaud you taking your valuable time to volunteer, what you do IS priceless! I love hearing from fellow animal lovers, who have compassion for the voiceless:)

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 5:44 pm

      You are an angel, it breaks my heart just thinking about that!!! Thank you for being you 🙂

    • 04/11/2013 at 5:57 pm

      Bless you for doing this Family of Law. I do what I can for small animals but to be albe to take in large abused animals is wonderful.. There is such a great need unfortunately.

  265. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 4:48 pm

    God willing we get to the Penalty Phase and then the defense will drag out Samuels and ALV again.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/11/2013 at 4:54 pm

      NancyB-
      The defense has a mitigation specialist for the Penalty Phase in the event one takes place. Samuels and ALV are only Guilty Phase witnesses.
      They have nothing to do with that portion of the case.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/11/2013 at 4:56 pm

        LOL! I typed “Guilty” phase! (I meant “Guilt Phase”, of course;)

        Freudian slip, much?!

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 4:58 pm

        Oh thank-you WIS! So just Maria. That’s a relief that we won’t have to listen to these two again!

  266. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 4:56 pm

    Tracey A :
    Try this Allison…
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/08/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern

    I am listening to this website right now. Ty for helping me get there. I am so glad to have another resource.

  267. geri5699
    04/11/2013 at 4:56 pm

    Back from lunch and back in chambers….

  268. MMD
    04/11/2013 at 4:59 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Counsel as well as Samantha and Travis’ brother and #JodiArias are called back to chambers. Stay tuned

  269. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 5:00 pm

    WhereIsSHE :
    LOL! I typed “Guilty” phase! (I meant “Guilt Phase”, of course;)
    Freudian slip, much?!

    I saw that and giggled! I knew what you meant.

  270. Crystal Harris
    04/11/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Did anyone else see Jennifer Wilmott yesterday throw an especially immature fit after the Judge sustained an objection from JM? She literally said, “Judge, NO!” Does JW not realize that the sustained objections are a reflection on her own lawyerly skills? Sorry if you suck at your job, JW, and don’t know how to properly ask questions. Geesh!

    • Tracey A
      04/11/2013 at 5:11 pm

      I did! And if I remember correctly the Judge firmly stated “Ask another question” or something to that effect. Good call!

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/11/2013 at 5:17 pm

        Yes! That happened twice! The first time it happened after one of JM’s objections and Willanothin’ said, “Judge may we approach?” and the judge said, “just ask another question” ha ha ha ha ha……it’s happened a few times to her. And just think….she an instructor to new up and coming attorneys! What are you teaching them Willanothin’, “How to be a bad attorney”? Ha ha ha ha!!

    • MMD
      04/11/2013 at 5:13 pm

      I saw it as well. She has had quite a few hissy fits. Real class act there 😉

    • NancyB
      04/11/2013 at 5:35 pm

      Yes!!! I do have to say that the judge has an extraordinary level of patience as a part of her style. JW is an embarrassment. Think about how many of the defense witnesses in their case in chief that Juan turned into prosecution witnesses. I don’t know how many years she has been practicing but she is not an accomplished litagator.

      Yesterday, I was fighting back my own tears when ALV talked about abused kids grow up to be abusers and then trashing the family. I was insulted and hurt by that testimony. What about Mum-Mum (grandmother)???? JA’s parents may have done the best they could BUT they never sought help for her Conduct Disorder that was raging like a beast as a teenager.

  271. NancyB
    04/11/2013 at 5:07 pm

    This must have been another very painful day for Travis’ family and his friends. Think about how outraged all of us feel at the detestable testiphony that JW & ALV gave today – and I do mean both of them. How they look themselves in the mirror is a true mystery to me.

    • Chrissie A
      04/11/2013 at 5:15 pm

      Plus they have to be in the same room with her in chambers… ugh

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 5:48 pm

        I hope Samantha wasn’t admonished for showing emotion yesterday. You are right. I could not imagine being Samantha and having to go into chambers at the same time as Jodi. WTF?

    • Lisa M
      04/11/2013 at 5:22 pm

      Will it ever end for this poor family?!

      • NancyB
        04/11/2013 at 5:52 pm

        I know. Think of how many hearing that they attended for all the years that this was going on prior to 12/12. I saw some of their names as being in attendance in the court minutes.

        That’s real rich JA & Donoman tweeting about Juan and anger management while she’s wearing a stun belt in court with guards hopefully around her for being a cold blooded killer.

        The DP phase cannot come too soon.

  272. Lisa M
    04/11/2013 at 5:11 pm

    Syntara :
    LisaM I think it was preplanned…
    It’s supposed to be face photo – dead in shower.
    Sitting shot not supposed to be there and fight for life not supposed to happen. In the psycho shots ends with her dead in shower and just her feet/ lower legs presented to depict this
    here if you want to see :
    http://www.chathousenews.com/2013/02/the-shower-scene-jodi-arias-chat-house.html:

    Ok, Syntara, you got me! I went onto chathousenews link and wow, the similarities are uncanny. I’m kind of speechless.

  273. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 5:15 pm

    Doncha know they think back to their “glorious moments” before the public?

  274. JesusFreak
    04/11/2013 at 5:20 pm

    WHERE are they? she yelled!

  275. Anonymous
    04/11/2013 at 5:20 pm

    Wow, jury questions, really? I only just tuned in bc I read the comments here; I have no stomach for the reprehense team. She really said he was a sociopath? Are you f-ing kidding me? Now she’ll be able to ramble on with her answers to the jury, spinning her bullshit. Are you killing me?