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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Forty-Seven Continues, 2

04/14/2013

It continues here…and if a second is needed, it will be done, lol!

Thx,

donchas

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  1. donchais
    04/14/2013 at 9:22 pm

    Mother Nagala here again…please remember the Alexander family still has weeks to go….

    2, 5, 10…whatever…every bit helps them through this ordeal

    Donations to the family:

    Paypal addy is: justice4travisalexander@gmail.com

    Snail mail:
    Samantha Alexander
    PO Box 130023

    Carlsbad, CA 92013

    • Lisa M
      04/14/2013 at 9:40 pm

      No problem. Nag away!

    • Chrissie A
      04/14/2013 at 10:02 pm

      Thanks for reposting this Donchais!

      You mentioned in an earlier thread about being torn between covering two trials. (With the Arias trial running late and another that you have been following being close to your heart) I do believe that you may have some new avid trial watchers here who will not go away when the Arias trial ends and will want to invest some of their time and energy into another trial, which may in turn, also be therapeutic to them. If the burden of work would not be too heavy on you, could this be a possible compromise?

  2. Tracey A
    04/14/2013 at 9:26 pm

    Anna – Wish I could tell you it was peyote, but alas, no…. 🙂 omg how is your emoji moving??

    Try this link…this is what I’ve been using for the emoticons. Hope this link works, if not I’ll try again.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcodex.wordpress.org%2FUsing_Smilies&ei=lVZrUaTkJKf7iwL5uYBA&usg=AFQjCNHaFTp_omBosxtSFfxF2IjmxWigLw&bvm=bv.45175338,d.cGE

    • Tracey A
      04/14/2013 at 9:27 pm

      Yay! It worked…

    • Anna
      04/14/2013 at 10:40 pm

      oh dear, i’m pretty sure you should have never told me about this page….TRACE’S FAULT FROM NOW ON IF MY EMOJI’S GO WILD & CRAZY, DUDES!…i.e. not my fault she handed it to me. lol jk…I promise I’ll try my best to be good….And btw I prefer Smarties, meself… 🙂

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 10:47 pm

        Before I open the can of WhoopAss on you, please CLARIFY which Smarties you are referring to. You better clarify and quick darlin’ 😉

  3. Tracey A
    04/14/2013 at 9:28 pm

    Thanks Donchais for the reminder and the new playground. I was getting bogged down on last thread 🙂

  4. Tracey A
    04/14/2013 at 9:33 pm

    Bring this over from last thread. Courtesy of Chrissie in re: to talk radio

    FYI – A reminder for the Websleuths radio show tonite, here is the link:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/15/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern?utm_source=BTRemail&utm_medium=ShowReminder

    • Douglme
      04/14/2013 at 10:51 pm

      Looks like I might have missed this already it is 7:51 PDT here, dang! Hopefully, it is recorded and I can listen now. Bye for now!

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 11:04 pm

        It’ll replay for you Mel. I joined in the middle and when I had to reboot it started all over for me. Should just be able to click the link…

    • Tracey A
      04/14/2013 at 11:08 pm

      Just finished listening to the radio segment. Observations:
      I do NOT like Holly Hughes.Nor did I appreciate her “diss” of KCL …”I have a real job”. Although KCL took it in stride. I have and always will like Beth Karas. To me, she is the only voice of reason on HLN and doesn’t sway in the wind like the rest of them. KatieCoolLady ROCKS!!!

  5. Jay
    04/14/2013 at 9:42 pm

    LaViolette won’t be back in court until Tuesday. And if the only other defense witness is the HLN producer, Martinez may be calling his first rebuttal witness tomorrow. If so I doubt he’ll call Dr. Janeen DeMarte first — he’ll probably save her for last, unless he has some other witness testimony to blow the defense out of the water.

    But you never know who he’ll call first . If it’s DeMarte, what do we know about her other than her laptop was stolen and these qualifications?
    http://mycrimetime.blogspot.com/2013/04/dr-janeen-demarte-look-at-prosecutions.html

    As to the laptop, was it recovered? If not, was important unrecoverable evidence on it? If there was no backup the defense will feast on that in the same way JM feasted on the defense witnesses for sloppy work habits.

    Though DMs educational and clinical credentials are available, what is known about her expert witness history? Is this her first Appearance at a murder trial? If so that could be problemativ for the prosecution: no matter how ernest and informed she may be, a novice can be easily carved up by the defense.

    I tried to find more background on her via google search but was unsuccessful. Anyone else out there know more about her?

    • truejustice
      04/14/2013 at 10:26 pm

      I don’t know a ton about her, but I do know she has a PHD and does therapy as well as evaluations for psychological issues. Per her web site she has some specialties that are very important to this case. Testing and Evaluation, Personality Disorders,Trauma and PTSD.

      You can check out her page here: http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/name/Janeen_DeMarte_PhD_Phoenix_Arizona_136525

      • Jay
        04/14/2013 at 10:45 pm

        Thanks TJ.. Saw that already, pretty much the same as what’s listed on the link I provided.. But no info provided on her expert witness history. I’d be interested to know if she testified for JM before, or in other murder cases. And I know I’m being a Pollyanna, but wouldn’t it be cool if this exchange transpired on her opening testimony:
        JM: Dr DeMarte have you made a through examination of the evidence in this case?
        JDM: I have, Mr Martinez
        JM: And how much are you being paid an hour?
        JDM: nothing,sir. I’ve donated my time to the citizens of the State of Arizona to balance the scales of justice.”

        I know, dream on.. 😊

      • truejustice
        04/14/2013 at 11:30 pm

        Jay.. wouldn’t that be something. I hope she has some extensive trial experience. But since the defense is playing dirty – hopefully she has not testified for JM before or they will claim bias … PUKE

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 7:03 am

      Morning all – a hard disc copy had been made so nothing was lost.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 10:10 am

      Not only would it be inappropriate for an expert to waive all fees “to balance the scales of justice”, but the prosecutor would never allow it, because how much more BIASED can a witness be?! JM would never stand for it, because it would subject the expert to a major grilling on cross examination.
      Expert witnesses are not there to do ANYTHING with regard to the “scales of justice”. They are there to evaluation certain evidence in the case that calls for analysis within the scope of their professional capacity, and then to render their opinions on that evidence IN ORDER TO “ASSIST THE TRIER OF FACT” with understanding that evidence. Period.

      When an expert comes across as an ADVOCATE (as ALV just did), they actually harm the case of the party calling them more than had they not tesfied to begin with. The lawyers are the advocates. Any witness, fact or expert, who comes across as an advocate tends to lose credibility with the jury, BECAUSE of their obvious BIAS in favor of one party over the other and/or their obvious PREJUDICE against the other party.

      IMO, ALV actually HURT this defendant’s case, because of her obvious and patent BIAS in foavor of the defendant. Would hate for the State’s expert to suffer the same consequence. Beer that she appear FAIR and NEUTRAL and admit to being fairly compensated for her time.

  6. TexiBelle
    04/14/2013 at 9:57 pm

    Happy Sunday y’all! I’ve been armchair detective-ing and just want to throw a few random ideas and invite discussion:

    -The Knife: While I firmly believe JA intended to use a knife in her crime, I don’t think it necessarily follows she brought one with her. She had been in TA’s house tons of times and surely had a good idea of what types of kitchen knives he had, and exactly where they were kept. Doesn’t really affect the bottom line of the crime, but that’s my theory on that. Unless police ruled out that one of his knives was used in the attack and I missed that?

    -The shower pics: I have difficulties with all the scenarios tossed around, and haven’t developed a separate theory that I think settles the matter. I have the greatest doubts about the story that the pics were Travis’ idea. The theory that JA forced him to take the pics at gunpoint certainly fits with the ultimate events of that day, but I also have difficulty seeing JA being able to hold him at gunpoint for any prolonged period of time. TA was much larger than her, much more proficient with firearms, and she was also trying to handle and operate a camera at the same time–I really think he would have found an opportunity to at least attempt to disarm her. He still may have died in the end, but I think a different sort of struggle than the crime scene shows would be evident. I wonder if she cajoled him into the photo session, promising that if she could just take a few photos to remember him by, she’d leave him alone (not that she intended to leave him alone–the photos would just be a final remembrance, and a way to get him into a vulnerable position). But if she had just previously blackmailed him with the pedophilia story, I doubt he’d allow her to take photos for fear that they would be used for further blackmailing and general tarnishing of his reputation. So in summation I haven’t really settled on any shower pic scenario as a perfect fit.

    -Male vs. Female abuse perpetrators: I don’t know if the trial/rebuttal case is the place to introduce this, but I kind of wish someone would offer more explanation about how male and female abusers operate differently, because I have trouble seeing it progressing the same way (this may be my uninformed perspective on female-on-male abuse). I must say that I have almost no experience with domestic abuse, my thoughts are based solely on my observations of male vs. female behavior in general. I’m just speculating and welcome disagreements. I apologize in advance if I trivialize or misunderstand anyone’s experience. Anyways, it seems so far the the prosecution has argued (rightly) that females can be perpetrators as well as males, but with no further discussion the inference would be that all abuse activities are exactly the same, only with gender roles reversed. In other words, person-on-person violence escalates throughout the relationship. I would think that when the female is the abuser, the abuse is much more emotional and psychological. When there is violence, it is more commonly directed towards a possession of the victim (tires slashed, treasured objects destroyed, etc.). And when the female perpetrator finally commits person-to-person violence, it is final and fatal. Not saying that female-on-male abuse can’t progress any other way, but that it manifests differently than male-on-female abuse. Anyone care to put their two cents in? I’m happy to learn if I’m wrong.

    • Jay
      04/14/2013 at 10:27 pm

      Pretty much the same kind of violence perpetrated by both sexes, physical and emotional. But women now more likely to initiate it. Confirming studies galore out there. Here’s links to some of them:

      http://divorcesupport.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=divorcesupport&cdn=people&tm=44&f=10&su=p284.13.342.ip_&tt=2&bt=4&bts=4&zu=http%3A//www.csulb.edu/%7Emfiebert/assault.htm

      Notice by who and where and when the list was prepared;

      Department of Psychology
      California State University, Long Beach
      Last updated: June 2012

      Cal State Long Beach is one of her sponsoring universities, right up the road from ALVs private practice.. She damn well knows female domestic violence against mals is on the increase yet gave phony statistics about it under oath.

      • Jay
        04/14/2013 at 10:29 pm

        That’s against males. – sorry about sloppy typing, but I’m all thumbs on the iPad..

      • TexiBelle
        04/14/2013 at 10:34 pm

        Not light reading but good information. I stand corrected.

      • Anniefreeze
        04/15/2013 at 1:18 am

        Great intel jay, thank you for linking.

    • Anna
      04/14/2013 at 10:46 pm

      Hey TexiBelle, fellow Texan! My mom used to have a dog named ‘Texie’ so I just love your name. Nice to meet you. I’m the crazy everyone tries to ignore… 🙂

      btw, I got one for people like me who mostly cuss in private, and hate using *** to block the distance between the f and the g…..nucking futs! Use it all the time.

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 10:58 pm

        “Tries” to ignore??? Well we aren’t very good at are we??? 🙂

      • TexiBelle
        04/14/2013 at 11:24 pm

        Nice to meet you!

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 7:12 am

        ROFL – yeah right – you’re the crazy one who everyone tries to ignore. 😉 We all looooooove your streams of consciousness and really take note when you haven’t been around!!!!!

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:50 am

      That neck wound is not an average knife wound. It’s clean and extremely deep. I doubt she could quickly lay her hands on something capable of that type of injury. It had to be close to surgically sharp.

      • Douglme
        04/15/2013 at 3:06 am

        Ya like a knife from a restaurant! Wonder if the place she worked was missing any knives?

    • ctc111
      04/15/2013 at 10:14 am

      HI all.
      Read everyday, don’t post much, love the site and all on it. Re: the knife. my sister used to work in a restuarant. says that every night the knives were sharpened. Do you think it possible that HODI brought one with her to ensure her work would be effective. Also I think that she used the gun simply to subdue Travis. she did say on cross, that if someone pulled a gun on her, it would get her attention.

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:44 am

        I thinks it’s definitely possible… but i’d like to have a bit more forensic testimony regarding the knife than we have. so far we have blurry dimensions and that’s about it.

  7. Anna
    04/14/2013 at 10:35 pm

    I was just minded of this saying I heard over the weekend: “I you ever see me in a fight with a bear, pray for the bear.” Inspiration for all you strong people out there. Fight for life and right and justice. Okie, going upstairs…

    • Anna
      04/14/2013 at 10:35 pm

      oh hell….”If you ever see me…” not “I you ever see me…ack attack

    • Tracey A
      04/14/2013 at 11:02 pm

      Oh my, what have we here?? A Laker fan maybe? That’s what Kobe said in his FB rant after injury. Hmmmm, I’m suspicious now dearie! 😉

      • Anna
        04/14/2013 at 11:08 pm

        No, not a fan at all of the kobe, but I respected his tweet as I respect people’s rights to make mistakes and grow from that. I mean I never have but hey…I can sort of imagine! cool you got that insider thing…do you secretly watch espn when nobody but men are looking? 😆

  8. Schaeffer
    04/14/2013 at 10:45 pm

    Re: ALV and the “issue” to be addressed

    If the ALV issue is not contempt or something similar relative to her CV, or about approaching Samantha, it may be that she contacted the media not only while under subpoena, but while she was still in the middle of testifying. The media could have discovered the backlash against her books and her speaking engagements, but there is no way they could have found out not only that she went to the ER, but why. Even if by some wild chance the media did find out she went to the ER, there is no way they could risk reporting it.

    Also, I have been wondering if she would have behaved differently, especially during cross and juror questions, if she had not brought her own audience in the form of her “father and friends since Kindergarten.” What did she think this was? A preschool Christmas program? Bring Your Father To Work Day? Ridiculous!

    • Anna
      04/14/2013 at 10:51 pm

      LMAO Schaeffer…and I love the comment someone made about her seeming to think this is her show and she can go back stage and barf anytime she wants. That’s kinda a wobo trait, no?

    • Tracey A
      04/14/2013 at 10:55 pm

      You never disappoint Girl. I’ve wondered that myself. With the strict HIPAA regulations/laws in effect, no way the ER would have released that info. Not a chance…

      LOL! Bring your father to work day!

    • Jay
      04/14/2013 at 11:04 pm

      Her contacting the media about the ER visit is an interesting proposition, faking palpitations for sympathy, etc. that would be a great third act reveal as they say in the film writing business.

      But for that to have happened wouldn’t there be other witnesses subpoenaed?

      • 04/15/2013 at 12:06 am

        Sadly, we have a complicit media that is more than willing to defend ALV from us meanies out here who dare to question her “professional” skills and integrity. Trust me, the media will not allow this women (a lesbian and feminist) to be attacked for any of her positions. She is a member of two classes that the media considers sacred…truth be damned!

    • Anniefreeze
      04/15/2013 at 1:25 am

      Hi Schaefer, I looked at her Facebook last week. the news of alv hospital visit presumably came from her Facebook page. One of her friends posted a declaration. I think that her friend may have been contacted after media noticed Facebook. I’m on ipad so my punctuation will never be accurate. 👊 (This is a fist bump).

  9. TexiBelle
    04/14/2013 at 10:53 pm

    Okay, just listening to the Tricia’s True Crime Radio broadcast from tonight–starting around the 23:00 mark, KatieCooLady (sp?) is talking about the juror who was dismissed this week (so, definitely the male ponytail juror) and she says the family isn’t devastated over the loss of that particular juror but “it was hard to see the defense succeed at something like that…” So being sick was just a cover, he was removed by the defense!

    • janeto
      04/14/2013 at 11:03 pm

      What????? #11 was not ill????? Then the judge lied?? I don’t get it. Wouldn’t she say as to #5 has been removed???

      • Schaeffer
        04/14/2013 at 11:10 pm

        He was legitimately ill, and wanted to continue. See my comment below.

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 11:17 pm

        Janeto!!! *****waves**** been waiting for you to pop in. But what’s with the lime green? Surely, you can’t be trying to match DonoMan’s shirt from the other day. 😆

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 11:18 pm

        No no, Juror #11 was actually sick.

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 11:19 pm

        Not sure if you saw my replies on previous thread…

      • janeto
        04/15/2013 at 10:42 am

        Tracey, oh HELL no!!!!! I sure am not trying to match Donomans shirt!! Have no idea why I got green icon now! {{{waves everybody}}}

    • truejustice
      04/14/2013 at 11:19 pm

      interesting. I did read that he was coughing .. more than normal. I know the judge cannot lie so the defense must have used it as a excuse to get him dismissed , maybe saying it was disruptive. Sneaky !

    • TexiBelle
      04/14/2013 at 11:23 pm

      Thanks for clearing up Schaeffer.

      • TexiBelle
        04/14/2013 at 11:34 pm

        Yeah about 20 min further in the broadcast they revisit the issue of juror #11 and explain it a bit more. My bad.

  10. Anna
    04/14/2013 at 11:03 pm

    Tracey A :
    Before I open the can of WhoopAss on you, please CLARIFY which Smarties you are referring to. You better clarify and quick darlin’

    oh pee pee panties….ahhh…the one’s from England….does that help???

    • Tracey A
      04/14/2013 at 11:15 pm

      And you call yourself an American???? pffft! Oh am I gonna hear about this one! I’m so screwed and know the onslaught that is coming. What is wrong with you??? ****friggin’ Texan; defected to the other side**** You have caused an international incident now… 😀

      ****donning my reinforced Teflon, Kevlar M&M pants****

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 7:16 am

        Darlin’ don’t give Anna a hard time – she got smart and decided she like the Commonwealth better 🙂

  11. Schaeffer
    04/14/2013 at 11:06 pm

    Gleaned from the Websleuths radio broadcast:

    Katie Coolady and the victim’s rights advocate, as well as Katie Wick and others who are regular court watchers, are now being followed. Unknown individuals have started lurking around them when they are in the hallway before, during, and after court. These same people just happen to “show up” wherever they go for meals, and try to sit very close to listen to their conversation. Katie Coolady and the group have “circled the wagons” and are not letting anyone new into their group and are being very guarded at all times.

    The defense is definitely trying to pick off jurors so they can get the jury whittled down to fewer than 12, and then have a mistrial declared. Juror #11, the one dismissed Friday, has been ill with a cold and cough all week, but he said he was able to continue and wanted to do so. The defense complained he might fall asleep, he couldn’t think clearly, especially if he was taking any medication, blah blah blah.

    I know the DT has a job to do, but honestly, there is a limit. These kind of tactics are despicable and inexcusable. They have nothing to do with defending WOBO and everything to do with making a mockery of the justice system.

    • Anna
      04/14/2013 at 11:13 pm

      well, i’ll be the first to say i can’t even speak now…they are shutting me up.

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 11:38 pm

        Huh??? Who???

      • Tracey A
        04/14/2013 at 11:50 pm

        Anna – where are you????

    • Jay
      04/14/2013 at 11:23 pm

      Is this info coming first hand? if secondary sources, how reliable are they?

      if Katie Wick is being harassed you can bet we’ll hear about it on Dr Drew tomorrow and you can be sure the network will assign guards for protection.

      How did the Juror#11 details get out? Isn’t that sealed?

      • Jay
        04/14/2013 at 11:25 pm

        Oh ii was on the radio show.. Did they say where they got those stories?

      • 04/14/2013 at 11:55 pm

        If this is true re: individuals being followed, this is getting really spooky.

      • 04/15/2013 at 1:41 am

        first hand.. see jay told you in post below it got better! 😛

    • truejustice
      04/14/2013 at 11:26 pm

      also speechless

  12. Tracey A
    04/14/2013 at 11:32 pm

    Anna :
    No, not a fan at all of the kobe, but I respected his tweet as I respect people’s rights to make mistakes and grow from that. I mean I never have but hey…I can sort of imagine! cool you got that insider thing…do you secretly watch espn when nobody but men are looking?

    Not a fan in any way of Kobe. But the BF loves his basketball and that’s team. I hate BB with a passion (probably because it was one of many sports I tried out for and the only one I truly sucked at). So when I heard he had a rant in the middle of the night I went and checked it out. Funny that you quoted that and I caught it… 😉

  13. Tracey A
    04/14/2013 at 11:40 pm

    Anna – You still here????

    • Anna
      04/14/2013 at 11:55 pm

      yeah, but in shock, and here it is, I’m gonna ttry to bring a tiny bit of comic relief here ok.

      geez…okay…i love sports! (she says to take everyone’s mind off the nucking futs theater of the absurd going on in the background there…) I love the Dan Patrick show (is that still on? i just looked and couldn’t find it). Also give me David Feherty all day long. I want to marry him but that would just be real bad….too similar…oh, and I’m already married, damn it! 🙂 Anyway, I’ve slowly learned that sports is another great reliever of world reality – there’s a lot going on there, really. The Colosseum is sure fire testament to that type of cathartic leisure time. But one day I realized that men have got it right. A good event can last at least 3 hours, during which all you have to do is sit there and drink IPA. Just as good as humor, for me. [btw, Trace, my daughter plays bball and it’s in my tall family’s blood. I like the ncaa!! Kevin Durant’s our fave 🙂 ] [just re-read this and can’t even laugh at my own jokes as usual. im sorry if it’s inappropriate but the silence is deafening.]
      Prayers for all involved in this nightmare. We will be careful in our undying quest for Justice For Travis.

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 12:09 am

        Anna – my apologies Sweetie. I think you took me the wrong way. Did not mean for that to happen. Maybe you missed out on the debate (previous threads a day or so ago, about the M&M debate). That would put my previous posts in perspective. Please don’t misunderstand me, I adore you and your sense of humor.

        I certainly meant no disrespect to you in ANY way. Everybody here, in my circle of family and friends, are all BB fans and they like NCAA better than anything. I was very big into playing sports as a kid. A complete and utter tomboy. BB was the one sport I tried out for (with the flu mind you) that I was really bad at. Kudos for your daughter who plays it and loves it. I was bad and I mean really bad at it.

        Again, I meant no disrespect and was completely joking with you. My bad if it came off wrong. 😦 So sorry…

  14. Tracey A
    04/14/2013 at 11:44 pm

    Jay :
    Oh ii was on the radio show.. Did they say where they got those stories?

    KatieCoolLady said Juror 11 had been visibly sick with a terrible cough for days.

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 12:41 am

      I just listened to about half the show.. That woman who hosts it got on my nerves. All that Juan bashing at the start convinced me three of the four women (not Katiecoollady) were clueless. Double clueless when you add in those ALV defenses they made. So I heard the first part of the Juror #11 story, about the Allexander family not too upset he was excused and that the defense was responsible, but nothing else, about him being sick, etc. Or about Katie Wick followed- was that brought up in the second half of the show?

      I’m a poor little sleepy guy right about so it’s zzzzzzzzzz time; I’ll check in the AM for any other details 😔 😫 😣

      • 04/15/2013 at 1:37 am

        Jay last weeks was better did you watch it?

        Even still, after the initial segment where her and the HLN person totally misrepresented what Juan is doing the show improved dramatically.

        The issue with the views in the first segment is they think in a smaller picture than he does. They do not comprehend what he does with his witnesses and why.

        His ability to abstract reason and maneuver his case with the ease of a world class chess player is breathtaking to those who understand it. For those with a more limited scope they simply fail to grasp it.

        Thankfully I believe Judge Stephens sees it clearly.

      • Jay
        04/15/2013 at 11:14 am

        Thanks or the info, the show is available via streaming audio and if the trial doesn’t go live until later this afternoon I’ll listen to the rest of it. And yes, I listened to it last week, but it was way more in focus with Wendy Murphy as guest.

  15. Anna
    04/14/2013 at 11:59 pm

    Trace?

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 12:13 am

      Anna – See my last post. I feel just terrible now. You have to know how much I enjoy your company.

  16. 04/15/2013 at 12:11 am

    Actually, losing only two jurors at this point in such a long trial is pretty good. If their questions on Friday were any indication, I think they’re ready to hand Ms. Arias her A$$ in their verdict.

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:39 am

      I was wondering about that. Do you think they will push harder now tho, in view of the debacle their defense has become? I think that’s why two almost back to back.

  17. Anna
    04/15/2013 at 12:11 am

    I think I’ll show my age even further by saying, “Goodnight, John Boy, g’nite grandpa…” Love you guys and my never-ending thanks for you support. I’ll see you tomorrow. donchais, thank you, and all my best.

  18. 04/15/2013 at 12:12 am

    Goodnight Anna! You’ll need your rest for tomorrow! 😉

  19. Anna
    04/15/2013 at 12:13 am

    Tracey A :
    Anna – my apologies Sweetie. I think you took me the wrong way. Did not mean for that to happen. Maybe you missed out on the debate (previous threads a day or so ago, about the M&M debate). That would put my previous posts in perspective. Please don’t misunderstand me, I adore you and your sense of humor.
    I certainly meant no disrespect to you in ANY way. Everybody here, in my circle of family and friends, are all BB fans and they like NCAA better than anything. I was very big into playing sports as a kid. A complete and utter tomboy. BB was the one sport I tried out for (with the flu mind you) that I was really bad at. Kudos for your daughter who plays it and loves it. I was bad and I mean really bad at it.
    Again, I meant no disrespect and was completely joking with you. My bad if it came off wrong. So sorry…

    wait…Trace…I have no idea what you’re talking about friend! I’ll go back up and check.

    • Anna
      04/15/2013 at 12:15 am

      Ooooooohhhhhhh…..you are so silly. Bother me. I wasn’t in shock because of anything you’ve ever said….it was the news that Schaeffer posted that slapped me so hard….I’m going to bed. I’ll decide what to do with you tomorrow…. 😎

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 12:21 am

        Then it’s my misunderstanding and I’ll own it. Check you out with the emoties…what I have created here??? 😳

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 12:17 am

      Don’t check here…it was a couple of threads ago. Chrissie, Syn, Essem and I were all debating which was better, Smarties or M&M’s. It was a lot of fun and how I ended up with the Miss M&M Pants moniker. I’d say it was 2 threads ago. When you said Smarties (which I have never tried) I was laughing the whole time I send my reply. Again, so sorry Honey.

      • 04/15/2013 at 1:27 am

        Actually it was before then girly! It was when you called me smarty pant ages ago! But that discussion clarified. sheesh can you keep with the program??? 🙄

  20. Anniefreeze
    04/15/2013 at 1:13 am

    Tracey A :
    And you call yourself an American???? pffft! Oh am I gonna hear about this one! I’m so screwed and know the onslaught that is coming. What is wrong with you??? ****friggin’ Texan; defected to the other side**** You have caused an international incident now…
    ****donning my reinforced Teflon, Kevlar M&M pants****

    Hi tracey and anna, Omg, Kevlar, u funny. Thanks for the emote directions. U da m&m!
    Anna, I’m with u about the animated emotes…lord they are brings into the high tech world. 😆

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 1:57 am

      Shhhhh….! 😀 ****whispers, don’t call me out anymore…Syn’s getting worked up**** LMAO!!!
      Luv ya Annie!

  21. 04/15/2013 at 1:24 am

    On Tricia’s radion it was interesting to know Juan is recalling the ME and probably Detective Flores too. Both for obvious reasons. Rebutting what wobo said on the stand.

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 1:50 am

      Oh Boy! I caught that too and my ears perked up. This’ll be interesting…

  22. 04/15/2013 at 1:25 am

    Tracey A :
    Then it’s my misunderstanding and I’ll own it. Check you out with the emoties…what I have created here???

    Oh man! Trace I was keeping it from them! 🙄

    • Anniefreeze
      04/15/2013 at 1:41 am

      I knew it, you were keeping emotes from us! 😥

      • 04/15/2013 at 1:44 am

        I was ignoring requests and told Anna it was secret Syn Stuff now Trace blew it!

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 1:53 am

        Syn still has the really good ones, like Marilyn and a few others have as well. But I think they are ***whispers….mac*** people too! 😉

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 1:44 am

      Oh Crap! I just glanced upstairs a few….You! YOU! LMAO!!!! 😆

  23. 04/15/2013 at 1:43 am

    Syntara :
    first hand.. see jay told you in post below it got better!

    😳 Oops the following of Trial watchers is first hand, the mention of defense wanting juror 11 gone for coughing I would say sounds at least 80% credible.

  24. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 1:47 am

    Syntara :
    I was ignoring requests and told Anna it was secret Syn Stuff now Trace blew it!

    pffftt! Like the rest of us don’t have Google…..wtf???? 🙄

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:51 am

      big mouth is all I’m saying 🙄

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 1:55 am

        :mrgreen:

      • 04/15/2013 at 1:56 am

        yes I know, green with envy… live with it!! 😛

  25. 04/15/2013 at 1:59 am

    Trace you still here? Did they say court is unlikely to start until 1:30 earliest? Just want to know cos that’s 4:30am my time

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 2:09 am

      Yep! The Jurors are on standby and were told to keep their cellphones handy.

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 2:10 am

        Waiting to see if we get live feed for the morning session (without the Jury). I think Jay may have posted more detail upstairs…

      • 04/15/2013 at 2:12 am

        thanksssssss Im off to the pool then zzzzzzzzz catchya tomorrow

        ***waves*** 😛 🙄 😯

  26. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 2:00 am

    Syntara :
    Actually it was before then girly! It was when you called me smarty pant ages ago! But that discussion clarified. sheesh can you keep with the program???

    Oh…get over yerself. You are still in the Time Continuum…!!!!

  27. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 2:23 am

    Enjoy your swim Syn…

    Signing off for the nite folks. Looking forward to seeing what tomorrow brings…

  28. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 3:10 am

    Syntara :
    Jay last weeks was better did you watch it?
    Even still, after the initial segment where her and the HLN person totally misrepresented what Juan is doing the show improved dramatically.
    The issue with the views in the first segment is they think in a smaller picture than he does. They do not comprehend what he does with his witnesses and why.
    His ability to abstract reason and maneuver his case with the ease of a world class chess player is breathtaking to those who understand it. For those with a more limited scope they simply fail to grasp it.
    Thankfully I believe Judge Stephens sees it clearly.

    I agree that is why she doesn’t sustain his questions

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 8:45 am

      Doug-
      Judges don’t “sustain questions”. They sustain OR overrule the lawyers’ OBJECTIONS to either the other party’s QUESTIONS (or–in the case of a witness who has been declared “hostile” to the party questioning said witness–to the “non-responsive” objections of the party who is doing the asking).

      Also-
      Judges don’t making evidentiary rulings on objections, etc based on how they view the tactics of the lawyers in the case.
      There are rules of evidence that they apply.
      If not, the entire system would fall to pieces.

      Not saying they are always correct in their rulings. Far from it. That’s how we have appellate decisions (higher courts reviewing, among other things, appellate issues on HOW the judge ruled on any given objection at trial).

      One cannot defend a judge’s ruling in one’s favor at trial by arguing that the judge understood where I was going with this, or the judge liked my “style”.
      You have to be able to cite the Rules of Evidence and/or actual case law interpreting the Rule in your favor in previous cases.

      I understand that the overwhelming majority of people who comment here are not lawyers/did not go to law school, etc, so I am hopeful that a little bit of explanation on these matters is helpful.

      On a final note:
      If a party FAILS, at trial, to make an objection, the party WAIVES the right to “complain” about it on appeal.
      In other words, it is incumbent upon counsel to make any and all objections to questions during the trial that the PARTY (not necessarily the same counsel–in fact, it is just as common that trial counsel is NOT involved in an appeal) might wish to make an issue on appeal. (Note: in this case, Jodi Arias is one party; the State of Arizona is the other.)

      *****
      Really final note: No matter how egregious ALV’s opinions and testimony in this matter, I am sad to see people here referring to her sexuality, etc– as if gay bashing is appropriate in any situation. I don’t know what her private lifestyle entails, but I do know that it is irrelevant and attacks upon it only serve to reduce the quality of the discourse. It reminds me of Jodi Arias making childish and nasty comments about JM’s height, for instance. It is far more effective–and mature–to aim one’s criticism at the content of her testimony and professional background, as so many here have very skillfully accomplished on a daily basis.

      • kCruz123
        04/15/2013 at 8:58 am

        Good morning WhereIsShe, I appreciate your comments. I know you may have said, but you’re an attorney, yes? I recently completed my AAS/Paralegal and am trying to study for the exam. True we all have thoughts and opinions on this case and at times we may go off track, it is good that you (and others) are there to add a little direction/structure, and legal knowledge. This is my first time following a blog and I mainly just read along & keep up. Every now and then I have a thought that for some reason or other just stays in my head until I feel I have to put it in writing. I’m sorry to say that I don’t have a real knack for conveying my passion but it just helps to jot it down.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 11:40 am

        Hi kCruz123-
        Yes, I am an attorney. I have been licensed to practice since 1992. (In other words, I am OLD! Ok-not THAT old! But I’ve been around the block, so to speak;)
        Good luck on your exam.
        It sounds as though you’ll do just fine.
        Not a bad idea to take a break from studying and stretch yourself in other ways.
        If you like to stretch out here, then enjoy it (but make sure the “stretching” doesn’t become your main activity!)

        The summer I took the bar exams (the firm I was hired into required that all associates in litigation departments take and pass TWO immediately), I used running outdoors as my stretch. Well that and watching some of the summer Olympics=)

        Wish you great success in your career=)

      • kCruz123
        04/15/2013 at 3:33 pm

        Thanks for the good luck wishes. Don’t say old to me…I know old! 🙂 This will be my 3rd career. I was in the military for 23 years, first in administration then in respiratory therapy/sleep therapist. So, as soon as I ‘retired’ I went back to school.

        I did see this link to JA’s tweets & then seem to be in chronological order, since the one about short men & the other about Nancy Grace are still here I’m assuming this may be all that were sent out?!?!

      • Douglme
        04/15/2013 at 12:00 pm

        Thank you for the explanation. I hope you are not assuming I was one of the ones gay bashing. I do not partake in that activity when many do. I may not find a witness believable and don’t agree with their testiphony but attacking someone regarding their personal preferences is not my style.

      • Jay
        04/15/2013 at 12:31 pm

        Hi WhereIsShe:
        Two comments on your comments…

        First,I appreciated the legal expertise, cogently expressed. But not so much appreciated your clarifying declaration to DougIme that judges ‘don’t “sustain questions” which seemed phrased too pedantically for an 8-AM posting (not even thru my first cup of coffee): it was pretty obvious he meant to say he agreed that was why the judge ‘didn’t sustain objections against him.’ Which means I thought your correction was a wee bit condescending this early in the morning.

        Second: there are no absolutes, and gay-bashing (another one of these blanket terms used indiscriminately to cover a multitude of P.C. sins) is as acceptable as straight-bashing if merited. If LaViolette is a lesbian with a penchant for demonizing men don’t you think that’s relevant to her testimony about Travis? She certainly had no trouble assassinating his character in absentia. If she was married to a man but left him for a woman isn’t it possible she may have subconscious resentments to men in general? The literature — psychological and criminal — is full of cases involving man hating lesbians, or haven’t you heard of Valarie Solanas, the radical feminist lesbian who tried to murder Andy Warhol, and the author of the SCUM Manifesto (Society for Cutting Up Men) – and no, she didn’t mean cutting up photos for her scrapbook. And if LaViolette is a man hating lesbian why would you object to describing her that way? If the shoe fits, why not make her wear it?

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:21 pm

      I understood ya Mel! Don’t worry 😀

  29. 04/15/2013 at 3:31 am

    Hell again all – Loving the posts. I have 2 question and correct me if I’m wrong – I don’t mind.

    1) Did Jodi not say that her and Travis made video of their escapades. Did she not also say in all her interviews that she never went anywhere without her cameras – that she always had one in her purse and one in the car. Where are her cameras? Is this where her trophies of that horrible day are stored. Maybe sister or mom or aunt have them.

    2) Did they state that the Son of Sam law does not apply to her yet as she ha not been convicted so there is nothing they can do about it. But couldn’t the IRS (I think that’s what it is called in the states – if not sorry – I’m Canadian) not make her file a income tax form as she is making money on her art? Could the State of Arizona make her help pay for her defense? Just my thoughts.

    PS – one more thought – If mom, aunt or whoever thought she was a true DV victim/survivor would they not be wearing those purple ribbons from day 1.

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:25 pm

      I believe one of the cams was te one her att. asked to get back near beginning of trial.. Det Flores had it to them that very lunchtime.. Juan said they could have had it any time in the last 4 years .

  30. 04/15/2013 at 3:31 am

    Sorry typo – meant to say hello again all – ss

  31. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 4:01 am

    Question for legal eagles, please. Hypothetical situation. Assume a potential juror has survived voir dire and all that entails and has been sworn in. I’m clear on that process.
    .

    Once the trial has started* can a juror ask to be excused because they have become so biased they won’t be unable to deliberate in good faith? What if they simply cannot listen to any more of the graphic testimony? Or look at such graphic evidence? What if they are so offended by the evidence and/or the testimony they cannot be fair and impartial?

    I have been wondering about this since WOBO was on the stand and spouting all that graphic bullshit; I stopped listening to the direct examination because I just couldn’t take it anymore. Initially, I was thinking about my mother, who would have been absolutely mortified to hear everything WOBO said, let alone see the photos. Then I realized I couldn’t listen to another minute of it, either. I certainly don’t consider myself a prude, and I am about as liberal as one person can be, but that was just disgrossting.

    I am certain they asked the potential jurors if they thought they would be able to handle the extremely graphic testimony and photos, and tried to prepare them for what the evidence would be, but really, how could you prepare 18 different people for what was about to transpire? No matter how prepared the jurors thought they were, I have to think they were shocked beyond belief at how lurid WOBO’s testimony was once she really got on a roll.

    So, if a juror felt this way could they ask to be excused?

    *Assume the trial has started, and is somewhere in the middle, not the day before summations.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 9:05 am

      If a juror tried to get off of the jury by saying that they had become too biased– the judge would instruct the juror to listen to ALL of the evidence before coming to a conclusion.
      (People do not get off of juries so easily once they are empanelled.)

      Likewise with “offensive” material. Jurors are subjected to graphic testimony and demonstrative evidence (photographs, videotapes, etc) every day.
      There are cases with far more disturbing testimony and demonstrative evidence played out in courtrooms all across this country on a regular basis.

      The case of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom comes to mind, right off the bat.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
      The torture murders committed by Gary Heidnik come to mind:http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/weird/heidnik/index_1.html

      Right now– where I practice– the horrific case of Dr. Kermit Gosnell (the Philadelphia doctor who ran an abortion clinic where he GRUESOMELY committed HUNDREDS of late term murders on viable babies) is going on.
      Many are upset that this case has not garnered anywhere near the attention of the Arias trial (though the national media has finally taken some note of it) .http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/04/14-theories-for-why-kermit-gosnells-case-didnt-get-more-media-attention/274966/

      Now.. if a juror is truly ILL (as in medically diagnosed), the juror may be relieved of his/her duties on a case.

  32. kCruz123
    04/15/2013 at 4:08 am

    I found 2 interesting things today. The first one involves what I consider to be, at the very least a lack of morals. As you watch this (at points: 23-27 into the tape) it is plain to see that the lady in orange (aka: the Defense Team Mitigation Specialist), is very obviously trying to COVERTLY HAND OVER SOMETHING FROM JA TO HER MOTHER right after a court session. I am trying to remember if this is the day that it appeared JA was trying to hide a piece a paper under her a**. Watch this video very closely and you’ll see the Mitigation Specialist (ha, she makes a mockery of that title) as she hands over a piece of paper to JA’s mom:

    And the second thing I am wondering about is in regards to Dr. DeMarte. I noticed that the Defense has filed a: Motion in Limine to Preclude Dr. Demarte’s Conclusions Pursuant to “SARA”.

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/122012/m5544446.pdf

    I also read that there was supposed to be a ruling on in this on/about 2/2013, but am wondering if the ruling was postponed? I think this was around the time that Dr. DeMarte’s home was burglarized. I have found several different ideas, reference the acronym but this one sounds most interesting:

    http://www.housedems.ct.gov/dv/pubs/120610/OVA_Risk_Assessment_Example.pdf

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 9:22 am

      KCruz123-
      I didn’t look at the mitigation specialist stuff, because I was far more intrigued by your comments on the defense motion in limine to preclude Demarte’s conclusions pursuant to SARA. I cannot imagine that SARA is anything other than what you have linked according to your research.

      Without a copy of the actual motion, (was it contained in it’s entirety later in the court minutes? I didn’t bother to keep scrolling), it is hard to guess WHY they are seeking to have these conclusions precluded, although from a cursory review, SARA seems to require the examiner to interview both the alleged victim and the alleged perpetrator, which clearly cannot be accomplished when one of those parties has been killed by the other.
      Unlike ALV’s flimsy and ever-changing “continuum”, SARA is an accepted test, supported by proper scientific research and studies.
      Accordingly, IF it requires that both parties be interviewed, and one of those parties is not “available” for interview, the use of SARA may not be appropriate in this situation.
      Now.. whether or not the judge would PRECLUDE Demarte from testifying about her conclusions pursuant to SARA is another issue entirely.
      It is far more likely that the judge would permit the testimony, subject to cross-examination on the appropriateness of its use in this matter.
      But again- I am just taking a stab in the dark here, not having read the actual motion.

      Maybe I’ll gain enough patience to read more of the court minutes to see what the gist of their complaint is and come back with a more germane analysis for you.

      Love to see this kind of research and query here. Kudos on keeping track of such interesting legal matters in the case.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 9:28 am

        On an unrelated but interesting matter, I do note that there is a current defense Motion to Compel with regard to JOURNALS SEIZED from the defendant’s jail cell on or about April 1, 2013.
        http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 9:31 am

        Wonder what FANTASTICAL tales (or perhaps damning admissions?) might be contained in thoses babies!

        Between these and the tweets, this defendant is making her “uphill battle” more like a SOLID BRICK WALL.

      • kCruz123
        04/15/2013 at 9:33 am

        Thank you.

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 11:28 am

      kCruz: If you are still here ….. nice job digging around and finding what you did. I read “downstairs” your are studying for an exam — do well!

      • kCruz123
        04/15/2013 at 11:43 am

        Thanks! I’m trying to do 2 things at same time.

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:29 pm

      you legal ppl ned to dumb down your posts… I can’t understand em cos not familiar with procedure! Think of us plse!!! we don’t have the experience you lot have and it takes so much time trying to work out stuff you just naturally know!

      Im dumb as a rock when it comes to this.

  33. kCruz123
    04/15/2013 at 4:20 am

    Oops, am a newbie to posting url & forgot to cite / give credit to the person who posted the youtube video I mentioned up above.

    YouTube COURTESY: tawnidilly
    Jodi Arias Murder Trial Day 31. The camera was still running after court had ended. Starts 0:16

    • NancyB
      04/15/2013 at 9:26 am

      Hi kCruz – You did good in scoping out that info on the defense Motion in Limine to try to keep out DeMarte’s conclusions on the SARA and in finding the assessment! Great job. Yeah, I bet they wanted to preclude her conclusions! As for the video – it happened prior to the butt sitting paper scenario although the day that Maria passed the note to Sandy Arias, JA had been caught in video doing other suspicious/strange things but not the one you mentioned. Maybe others will know more about these issues.

  34. jad
    04/15/2013 at 5:06 am

    Syntara [at # 206, previous page] — You mentioned the comment posted by Essem [at # 621, April 13, 2013, on the page before, which would be that of day forty-seven]. I had just finished a review of that which Essem had brought to everyone’s attention, and there had been some serious thought on that matter. What had been concluded might correspond with the other subject matter of yesterday’s post (which related to reasons for the demand of the presence of Alyce LaViolette — that included the possibility of proceedings brought against her in regards to sanctions for her unethical approach to a relative of Travis Alexander [during a break in Trial proceedings of a capital one murder case in the Court], Contempt of Court knowing [the witness had been reminded and KNEW she was providing testimony under OATH except] that she had chosen to ignore the constant reminder that the witness answer questions [competently and] in a professional manner [showing respect to ALL officers of the Court], impeachment because all of the falsehoods and bias had discredited the testimony so much that instruction could be given that the Jury could exercise a right to ignore the entirety of the testimony [or actually have the testimony stricken by the Judge] because of the credibility issue, and/or more questioning to discover if perjury charges would be filed for embellishing certain qualifications and fabricating [fulfillment of ALL criteria necessary to be recognized as an expert on] her Curriculum Vitae (which made it possible to be deemed an expert witness, with appropriate [ridiculously excessive] payments for her elevated status). It was thought more so after seeing one of your other comments that day [at # 232], of which was pasted the web address for that support page on FaceBook, that had been reviewed.

    You asked for a discussion if inclined. There should be. You are probably thinking the same thing that I am [that had been discovered by Essem], which is that a person posting on that other web site sure did seem to be Alyce LaViolette. Her writing was familiar because it was thought she had posted three times [at this site] on a previous post, back in March. It was also believed that the dodgy doctor (Richard Samuels) had posted that same day. While this is only conjecture, with no corroboration, common sense might dictate this to be the likelihood.

    The person who ran the other web site (referenced by Essem and Syntara) had made an accusation that one of the people commenting on the site, CASSANDRA, was actually Alyce LaViolette. That could be true. Back on March 14, 2013, at 4:01 P.M. (under comments for day 31), post # 117 addressed a person with the moniker of greykitty, who was believed to be Alyce LaViolette. Although this would have been a serious breach for an expert witness, it can not be put past her that it happened. The same is true for the other expert witness, Dr. Samuels.

    In a comment (posted March 14 as # 106), the first two paragraphs addressed the brief message posted by the person believed to have been Dr. Richard Samuels. The post was — “omg — it’s an ambush. I just saw the HLN TV moderators speaking of instruments, etc. They are way off base. This has nothing to do with anything of substance. The use of these words in the slide show is a ploy to admit this so-called expert’s reasoning for a diagnosis that has never been seen by the State and that is merely meant to come in to confuse the Jurors. It is my belief that the defense ran the gist of the basis for the defense presentation to be given by the expert witnesses by this room the other day. I sent a response to greykitty [in a personal comment], but it was probably too long for you to post. It was not felt necessary to respond to Salvandorun, because neither the defense presentation of Dissociative Identity Disorder which is known as the abbreviated DID (and more commonly called by its former identity Multiple Personality Disorder) nor the more colloquial Mixed Personality Disorder (also known as Personality Disorder Not Otherwise Specified) would be able to fly. The presentation would have been brand new (untimely) and not reviewed by the State. It was not believed that the defense would try to hide it in a Trojan Horse presentation — all wrapped up, with a pretty bow.”

    This was posted on day thirty-one, at this site. As you can see, the dodgy doctor did exactly what had been mentioned. He altered his diagnosis, but he pretended he had not, and he acted as though the second was that which he had originally planned. This was a very deceitful act (and NOT that clever). Just for good measure, the post left by Salvandorun was copied and then pasted as post # 110, on that same day. It is quite clear that the person posting was very familiar with the primary diagnosis for the condition of Jodi Arias and knew that the diagnosis would be modified at Trial (without seeing the patient/client and with no real basis other than it fit better with the testimony that Jodi Arias had just finished telling the Jury).

    Another person was addressed at # 117. This person had originally posted (as greykitty) at 6:43 A.M. on 03/08/13 [as # 69], at 4:27 P.M. on 03/08/13 [as # 112], and most especially at 2:02 A.M. on 03/09/13 [as # 162]. At # 105 that day, you can read a double response by MMD and CiCi’s Circle, when they smelled a disingenuous rat. On that date, donchais was holding down the fort from a barrage of rampaging TROLLS. Greykitty’s posts and some of the responses are at https://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/03/07/jodi-arias-murder-trial-day-thirty/#comments

    The reply to greykitty, and explanation for why I held the belief that she was Alyce LaViolette is at https://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/jodi-arias-murder-trial-day-thirty-one/#comments greykitty had admitted to watching the Trial every day. This is just one of the matters addressed in that missive. I believe that the person who posted as greykitty was Alyce LaViolette, and, if correct, this woman violated Court Rule, as she was not supposed to watch or listen to Trial testimony while waiting her turn as a scheduled expert witness. If this can be proven, her entire testimony would be worthless. However, the prosecutor might want to keep the testimony for some reason (because of no desire to see the case return if a New Trial were to be granted upon an Appeal being taken, for instance).

    It looks like the ball is in the prosecutor’s Court. The prosecutor can definitely accuse Alyce LaViolette with perjury. He also can impeach her because she is biased and is not credible. He can also ask the Court to find this so-called expert in contempt of Court for a myriad of reasons, least of which is accosting a relative of the victim while in the protection of the Trial Court. There are multitudes of sanctions available. First, this absurd Motion for Prosecutorial Misconduct must be heard. Maybe Wurmi has been filing these absurdities because he knows what the criminal lawyers on the defense team for Jodi Arias have been doing, and he is trying to cast the prosecutor in a bad light — since he realizes that he has been cast in the dark shadows. The Hearings scheduled for today and tomorrow will reveal the course chosen.

  35. jad
    04/15/2013 at 5:30 am

    Syntara — these are the postings by CASSANDRA who is believed to be Alyce LaViolette. If this is LaViolette, she is done. When I read these, they seemed very similar to those posts left by greykitty [around the first week of March]. What do you think? Would this woman be that ignorant? There are FIVE complete posts by CASSANDRA that I have copied off the web address http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/10/jodi-arias-trial-post-for-wednesday-you-can-get-anything-you-want-at-alyces-restaurant-except-a-yes-or-no-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-34559 and pasted as follows:

    On April 11, 2013 at 9:05 P.M., Cassandra [in reply to KoKo’s comment about LaViolette’s hubris over her degree, etc.] said (when speaking highly of herself and disparagingly of others.) = “You are disgustingly disrespectful. This woman is extremely intelligent and insightful. I have personally had many of the experiences she speaks of and can honestly say she is right on target about everything. You all act like a bunch of headhunters. Jodie killed Travis for a reason. It is obvious nothing was planned out. He was leading a double life and all his money and connections are not going to save his name from that. She shouldn’t have killed him but she did and we need to understand why so people who find themselves victims of men like him can get help before it’s too late.”

    On April 12, 2013 at 9:41 P.M., Cassandra [in reply to Kristi’s comment that Jodi planned the murder, and that LaViolette was a lying idiot for thinking any differently] said (in a condescending fashion that was really long-winded) = “Your foul mouth is only exceeded by your lack of brain cells. If you had any background in psychology you would be able to understand the intricacies and dynamics of their relationship better. Take off the rose-colored glasses and look at the facts. Jodi is too smart to bungle a pre-meditated murder. And this was bungled from beginning to end because what ultimately happened was unplanned.

    “I have noticed that most of the commentators on this blog seem to be anything but critical thinkers. Maybe if you had more life experience you would be able to see further than the end of your nose. At age 64 and many cumulative hours of post-grad work in the psychology field it is relatively easy to spot someone who is an expert in the field. This woman has nailed it on the head. Alyce Laviolette has done a terrific job and the infinitesimal mistakes she has made is nothing more than human error –- of which I am sure you have been guilty of once or twice! And I’m sorry but she is the dignified one of the two. Martinez is nothing more than a little Napoleon bully who desperately wants to boost his low self-esteem by sending someone to death row –- even though she was also a victim in this situation. What a tragedy that would be.

    “It is obvious you don’t want to face the facts that Travis caused a lot of his own problems by not being able to keep his peter in his pants. He used his pseudo status to gain power over this woman by denigrating, deriding and dismissing her on a continual basis. She was guilty of nothing more than accommodating him in order to gain his affection. His murder was anything but “planned.” They have pretty much established this fact. It is obvious it was a crime of passion committed by a woman who had been pushed beyond the end of her rope. The reason it was so difficult for Travis’s friends to relate to her was because she thought on a higher plane than they did. She is extremely intelligent, articulate, and talented. Being around his friends was most likely terminally boring to her and it was difficult for her not to show it.

    “It is quite obvious you are a either one of Travis’s phony friends or a member of his family. Everyone of his friends they have interviewed on TV have come across as phony and/or superficial. As the saying goes, “birds of a feather flock together.”

    “I, on the other hand, don’t know Jodi from Adam. I am merely a person who looks at the facts and goes with my gut. I am not swayed by public opinion nor am I a cow, sheep or pig just following the herd as most are doing because of their inability to think objectively.”

    On April 12, 2013 at 10:33 P.M., Cassandra [in reply to Tango accusing certain people of professing education without accounting for others being educated] said (while deliberately using an insulting manner) = “If you would like to don your robe, go ahead. I like to stick with facts. If my advanced degrees have taught me to do that, then so be it……..you should not be threatened by that. They are out there for anyone to obtain.”

    On April 13, 2013 at 1:50 A.M., Cassandra [in reply to Alessa questioning the motive and identity of Cassandra] said (quite dismissively [but very similar to that of greykitty in post # 112 of day 30]) = “I’m disappointed to see this site is nothing more than one big mutual admiration society with only one opinion and a multitude of potty mouths who are not interested in the truth but only in pushing their beliefs onto everyone else. I was hoping this was a place a person could go to see a variety of opinions. It is sad to see that no one uses their education (if they even have one) –- doubtful), to express themselves properly. It is also sad to see the level the younger generation has stooped to. I will not be visiting this site again as no one seems to be able to think outside their box. I am terminally bored already. Have fun scratching each other’s backs.”

    On April 11, 2013 at 9:08 P.M., Cassandra [in reply to SweetTeaNShade, who was laughing with Steve joking over the bathroom breaks and depends underwear] said (with a very mean spirit) = “This kind of degrading talk should be obliterated.”

    On April 11, 2013 at 1:57 A.M., (Auric) = “Jodi arias will go free at the end of all this, or at worst have a hung jury.”

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:08 am

      the infinitesimal mistakes she has made is nothing more than human error –- of which I am sure you have been guilty of once or twice! And I’m sorry but she is the dignified one of the two.

      This is of particular significance— This spells extremely personal involvement.

      Jad did Greykitty disappear subsequent to the March 14 post?

      still reading

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:14 am

        Jad… this is a clue here but I am unfamiliar with exactly how she represents herself. If this is a direct cut and paste.. look at this

        Alyce Laviolette

        Would she usually capitalise the V there? If not this could be someone close to her but not her. Conversely, if this is how she informally refers to herself it would be a dead giveaway.

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:30 am

        I arrived on this site 14 March I’m pretty sure. The final post up there rings true of another poster’s exist. I have assumed since then that person posts under other names and I’m now wondering it there is a relationship between that poster and the former pseudonym Greykitty.

        The posts you have copied, at the very least, purvey an intimate knowledge of what LaLa could be thinking. I find it difficult to believe that just by watching this trial, and with an alleged profession in the human sciences, anyone could possibly reach the conclusions this person has leapt to,

        If it is LaLa or someone very close to her, they would be privy to her thoughts. To me that’s the only way anyone could have such astonishing ‘insight’.

    • stephanie
      04/15/2013 at 11:10 am

      I am not understanding what this is can someone explain?

      • stephanie
        04/15/2013 at 11:12 am

        Never mind I figured it out. I just had to read the whole thing DUH!

  36. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 7:27 am

    Morning everyone. Obviously I’m the only one here right now 😦

    • kCruz123
      04/15/2013 at 7:30 am

      Good morning MMD! Southern Alabma here with you. Holding my breath and crossing my fingers …wondering what today will bring.

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 7:33 am

        Have you been on all night? 😉

      • kCruz123
        04/15/2013 at 8:39 am

        Yes, pretty much all night. I am trying to study for an exam but I keep straying to the Internet when questions pop into my head. I’m afraid that I won’t be able to concentrate in much until this case is over.

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 9:00 am

        You get yourself right back at the books now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😦 hands on hips

    • truejustice
      04/15/2013 at 7:45 am

      Morning all. coffee and callforjustice…. just not enough coffee this a.m.

      Just heard on the cbs local – az that la lady is expected to be back on the stand today – ug. Hopefully this is not so. Won’t be able to watch today so I will be looking forward to checking every ones posts this evening 🙂

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 9:05 am

        Morning TJ – If she’s on then I’m tuning out!!!!! 😦

  37. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 7:44 am

    OK I’m gonna watch 2 episodes of Dallas which will disappear before the finale today. I feel asleep yesterday late afternoon (just for a nap to make today come faster) and sleep through the night. That’s the second time it’s happened which is unheard of for me but I’ll take it since those are the only 2 good nights sleep I’ve gotten since this damn trial started. Yes the dogs figured that Mama needed it too cause they were sooooooooooooo good! 🙂

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 7:47 am

      Damn, just discovered I’m 3 episodes behind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😦

    • Laine
      04/15/2013 at 7:54 am

      Hello my lovley! Enjoy your catch up, I did all mine yesterday and it certainly helps to pass the time! Got my eldest coming to see me this afternoon for a catch up so that will be a lovely way for me to pass the afternoon till the trial gets here! 🙂

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 7:59 am

        Hi Laine – how’s things across the pond?????? I’m checking in during breaks! 🙂

      • Laine
        04/15/2013 at 9:25 am

        Hey honey, All good thanks! The sun has decided to show herself for the first time this year which means I am gratefully soaking up some much needed vitamin D!!! I hat the winter 😦

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 11:10 am

        Enjoy!!! I can’t remember if your eldest is your son or one of your daughters????? my mind goes on a daily basis………………… along with the body………………………… 😦

  38. Jo
    04/15/2013 at 7:59 am

    Good Morning! Two comments:
    1. About Juror 11. I heard a lot of coughing going on in the courtroom about the last 3 days. At one point during the coughing, I did notice the judge looking to her right and I thought about the coughing coming from a juror. Before that, I thought it was the gallery. So perhaps the juror is truly ill. BUT, since it was the weekend, why not give it another couple of days to heal. Guess the defense did not want to wait.
    2. Son of Sam law….don’t know if it even needs to apply. Someone was found guilty of killing a family member. The parents of the murdered person sued for wrongful death to prevent the murderer from making any money when they get out of jail (it was covered in the media and the killer will only be in their early 40’s). They were awarded millions. They know they will never collect a dime and they don’t care. They just wanted to prevent the murderer not to be able to live the lifestyle their child will never have.

  39. Wendy
    04/15/2013 at 8:31 am

    Mornin MMD and everyone. I missed out on everything Friday. 😝 Trying to get caught up but I am so far behind. Does anyone know when they will be starting today?

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 8:59 am

      Morning Wendy: Testiphony at 1:30 ET if it starts. A hearing, at 10;30 but I don’t know if it is going to be televised!

      • Laine
        04/15/2013 at 9:31 am

        Pick that head missy! Twas but a minor error and donchais caught it 🙂

    • donchais
      04/15/2013 at 8:59 am

      9:30 PT, 12:30 ET

      • Wendy
        04/15/2013 at 9:10 am

        Thank you. Have a great day!!!

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 9:27 am

        Sorry I was going by my time 😦 hanging my head in shame…..

      • 04/15/2013 at 9:33 am

        what’s ET and PT? which is AZ time?

      • donchais
        04/15/2013 at 9:51 am

        eastern and pacific..az is pacific at the moment

      • 04/15/2013 at 9:59 am

        ty

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:01 am

        Morning Syn~ ET is eastern time, PT is pacific time and AZ is the same as pacific time. AZ does not change their clocks for daylight savings.

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:03 am

        Donchais& Syn~ sorry for the repeat.

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:38 am

      hey back wendy! soz didn’t see ya up here 😀

  40. 04/15/2013 at 9:08 am

    ooo ooo I’m reviewing the interrogation vids for stuff on my blog..and in vid 2 there is something I got before but didn’t process completely. I know I kmow old stuff but anyhow… re: Cancun

    She says she didn’t know he was taking Mimi until his memorial service… and she “thinks that’s awesome” ❓ present tense? Anyhow that’s another point..

    Detective Flores then relates how Mimi had rung Travis a week or so before they were due to leave and explained to him she didnt think of him “that way” and it broke Travis’ heart.That would make it around the 26th May.

    Jodi (forgetting herself for a moment, leans forward and with fake heartfelt softness states “I know”. Immediately realising what she’s done she sits back and corrects herself… “I mean, he didn’t tell me …… I found that out from my bishop” err Jodi too little too late… why would the bishop relay it in that way?

    Big sign here saying: She went to beg him to take her, he already had the go ahead from Mimi to take someone else.

    When he still refused would that have fed her inner rage! That with the 14 missed calls? oooeee!

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:09 am

      by the way heeelooooo everyone ***waves*** 😀

      • Wendy
        04/15/2013 at 9:18 am

        Hi Syn!!! 😄

      • Laine
        04/15/2013 at 9:29 am

        Hey honey 🙂 Just left you a review on your blog about ALV it was wonderful! loved it 🙂

      • 04/15/2013 at 9:31 am

        Thanks soo much Laine 🙂

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 9:33 am

        Morning Syn ******waves*********** and {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}

      • 04/15/2013 at 9:37 am

        Im in and out so just be warned if I neglect anyone it’s not deliberate 😉

    • Marilyn N
      04/15/2013 at 11:57 am

      Morning Syn – And are we to believe her bishop or his bishop or any bishop would talk
      with her about Travis’s personal stuff?? (I would hope not!!)

      • 04/15/2013 at 12:01 pm

        exactly as if a bishop is going to say well you know Mimi rang him and told him to go to cancun with someone else if he wants cos she doesn’t want a serious relationship with him… now he’s heartbroken… and if it was after his death? as if that’s going to come up! not for a normal person they are just going to be talking about him in memorium not gossip mode. makes NO sense to someone who understands human nature

  41. 04/15/2013 at 10:00 am

    ….. and the good news is girls! We get to see the lovely ME again by the sounds of it! 😀

    • Wendy
      04/15/2013 at 10:08 am

      WooHoo!!!! 😍

    • Grace
      04/15/2013 at 11:59 am

      Yummy

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 12:49 pm

      Yay!

  42. 04/15/2013 at 10:03 am

    question anyone plse help!

    On the stand didn’t jodi say they had anal sex the night of her baptism or was it oral? Anyone remember what she attested to?

    • 04/15/2013 at 10:06 am

      Syn~she said it was anal.

      • Wendy
        04/15/2013 at 10:09 am

        I think she is anal. 😝

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:12 am

        GOOD DAY EVERYONE~~ Are we all ready for what this day will bring with court? Sure it will be fast & furious so I am going to sit back to watch and read all your great insights to today’s proceedings.

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 10:56 am

        Morning Vickee! 🙂

    • Marilyn N
      04/15/2013 at 12:27 pm

      She said Travis shoved her against the bed and threw his thang into her bum!!

      • 04/15/2013 at 12:30 pm

        LMAO!!!!! oh that’s right.. well it’s a lot diff to what she says in the police interrogation.. funny how she picks the same incidences.. ok not funny.. telling!

      • Marilyn N
        04/15/2013 at 12:32 pm

        and then she told him about the KY gel!!😊

      • Lisa M
        04/15/2013 at 12:55 pm

        Yeah, just like she said, and ALV repeated, that he threw her over the desk and did the same to her the day she killed him. Right! But yet, JA never said he raped her, she admitted all the sex acts were consensual. And still ALV used the same phrasing, he threw her over the desk or something like that, insinuating it wasn’t consensual. Should Martinez have made a point of that? I mean, you can’t have it both ways, either he raped her or the sex was consensual. But the defense has been getting away with playing the rape card somehow.

  43. 04/15/2013 at 10:13 am

    thought so… ok get this: this is me going through vid 2 at the moment

    Detective Flores asks her why then? Why did you keep going back? Her response is that she now has a perpective that she’s worked out with her bishop. He’s given her books to read and now she’s even futher along in her spirituality than she was prior to “all that”. She states when she was baptised she really wasn’t “there yet” her and Travis were still “making out” but hadn’t gone all the way. She obviously uses words from the bishop saying that “the making out drove the ‘spirit away’ ” and a couple of times she didn’t answer his text messages and he sent sad faces. She said he kept calling.

    Think it’s safe to say here Jodi transposes her and Travis’ exchanges. She would have been doing the calling, he would have been doing the ignoring. Also she testified on the stand they had anal sex the night of her baptism, well this sure contradicts that statement!

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 10:20 am

      Everything she says is contradicted somewhere. She is full of it. Travis would NOT do that on the day of her baptism.

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 10:22 am

      And how come everyone keeps giving her books?!

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:24 am

        these are the types of things Detective Flores may be being recalled for. To address her inconsistencies.

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 11:07 am

        I’d like to know that too????? WTF is with all the books – I wonder if she asks for them but in the way that makes them think it’s their idea?????

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 11:58 am

        Anything and everything she can read and learn to support her claim of “self-defense” is what she would certainly do her best to manipulate anyone and everyone into giving to her.

        I imagine she uses a combination of sympathy-inducing behavior, flattery and flirting to get what she wants.

  44. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 10:21 am

    Morning all!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 10:41 am

      Morning Nienna 🙂

  45. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 10:24 am

    For a bit of laughter today…

    • 04/15/2013 at 10:26 am

      now that’s someone who can draw!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 10:30 am

        Love how they could the hair perfectly! 🙂

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 10:34 am

        Not could, supposed to be got – Damn Mondays!!

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:35 am

        my bangs! My bangs!!!

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:46 am

        Nienna~~ that is too stinkin’ funny!!!! LMFAO

    • Marilyn N
      04/15/2013 at 11:43 am

      Is that picture for sale?
      That is so so funny!
      I love the detail surrounding her lips, and
      noticed she might be growing a bit of a dark mustache.

  46. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 10:29 am

    ROFLMAO!!!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 10:49 am

      OMFG This is too funny!!! I thought that Chrissie’s picture was bad but this is even worse!!!!!! I so hope that Wurmi is enjoying these as well since we know that he keeps up with the media 🙂

      All I can say is that I am so glad that I don’t eat meat cause I sure as hell wouldn’t be able to now!!! 😉

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 10:55 am

        LOL. Glad I still have an hour before lunch 🙂

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 11:36 am

        Since earlier I saw that the blog nanny has appeared and taken us to task for using language the way we do in everyday life, I thought I’d anticipate the latest PC instruction:

        Oh My! I must say that I am very disappointed with ALL of you. It is so distressing to see Fat Bashing instead of legal talk “appropiriate” to the trial.Really, I thought you here more “mature” and “insightfull.” Surely, even though many of you are not annointed by a legal degree, and therefore shouldn’t really speak on legal matters, I thought you’d show some maturity ,

        (isn’t this a version of “if you were in my group, I’d give you a time out”?)

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 11:39 am

        Yes it is.

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:10 am

      That is way toooo funny!!!! Choked on my oatmeal. Thanks for starting Monday off with a song. ;>). (The old fashioned smiley)!!!

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 1:01 pm

      Okay, I’m going to take the roll of the blog lady here, and say yes, it goes too far! But I love the drawing of JA above.

      • Lisa M
        04/15/2013 at 1:02 pm

        I meant, blog nanny.

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 1:50 pm

      Never meant to offended anyone with this. I didn’t make it, just shared it. I hestitated on sharing it at that… Everyone makes bad decisions sometimes. I’ve made mine for the day and I apologize. I wish I could undo what was done.

  47. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 10:45 am

    Did jodi make 14 calls to travis the night before the murder that went unanswered?

    • 04/15/2013 at 10:47 am

      the days before there were apparently 14 that he either didn’t answer or were so short they seemed only to go to voicemail, Gracerv7

  48. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 10:47 am

    This is very interesting. Is it Syn that says she looks like a lizard when licking her lips? She’s very insect like. Watch her fingers as she plays with her hands. She’s like a spider. SO CREEPY!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 10:55 am

      If you look at her hands during the trial, she has the oddest fingers and hands that I have seen on a woman. They’re don’t quite look like a man’s, they’re just very strange!!!!! Creepy kinda!!!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 11:02 am

        I thought so too! Very non-feminine hands!

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:13 am

        They have always reminded me if chicken feet. Yuk~(we used to have a chicken ranch.)

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 11:22 am

        Excellent Vickee!! Chicken feet hands, you’re so right!!

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 11:27 am

        That’s EXACTLY what they look like!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL 🙂 Couldn’t figure out what they reminded me of so thanks Vickee!

      • Marilyn N
        04/15/2013 at 11:31 am

        Yuk! They are so long and bony – just like her extra long neck!!!! The defense will say there’s just no way those bony
        fingers could have done all that stabbing!!

      • Marilyn N
        04/15/2013 at 11:34 am

        Chicken feet and hands, and a slithery snake-like tongue!!

      • Katie
        04/15/2013 at 12:13 pm

        That’s not the only body parts that look strange…

      • 04/15/2013 at 12:50 pm

        she uses them very slowly and deliberately.. like every movement is contrived or at least deliberately enacted that way. That’s cos it’s all learnt. Very strange isn’t it? Creepy is the right word.

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:18 am

      She also looks like she is drugged. Does Imitrex do that?

      • Marilyn N
        04/15/2013 at 11:36 am

        To me, her face changes according to what’s being said on the stand.

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 1:09 pm

      JA has the mentality of a naughty child who thinks that if she manages to shoot the bird at her parents during a time-out, even (and especially) if they can’t see it, that means she’s won. What an infant!

  49. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 10:49 am

    Thank you syntax a not sure how I missed that one!

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:52 pm

      lol!! am I syntax???

  50. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 10:49 am

    Just saw this wonderful donation made to the family 🙂

    Denise Drinhouser‏@DD_JustBeingMenow
    #jodiarias @katiecoolady: An anonymous donation just came in for $3500 #PROJECT500 amazing love pouring 2 the Alexanders. I’m blown away.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 11:21 am

      That is soooooooooooo wonderful. They deserve all the help they can get. I wonder if the Charity that Wendy Murphy sits on the board of, were able to help. Anybody hear????? She really kinda promised it!!! 🙂

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 1:03 pm

      That’s awesome.

  51. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 10:50 am

    Crap!! I meant syntara damn auto correct!!

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:55 pm

      lol!!!!! LMAO!

  52. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 11:08 am

    LOL MMD… you might have competition 🙂

    TraceyC ‏@TLC4AU9m
    “@SammyK41092: Even though I’m a 38 year old straight male, I’d like to ask Juan to the prom. #jodiarias” I don’t blame you! 🙋

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 11:13 am

      Get in line TraceyC – JM does NOT swing both ways and he’s allllllllllllllllllllllllll mine!!!! So hands off buddy!!!!! 😦 hands on hips

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 11:21 am

        LOL. I’ll help you fight him off 🙂 Just thought it too cute that a 38 yr straight male wanted to take him to the prom. Literally crying over here!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 11:39 am

        JM does NOT swing both ways

        (not that theres anything wrong with it)

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 11:23 am

      Excuse me @SannyK41092 – aka Scott Rapp from NJ 😦

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 11:24 am

        Oh no! She’s doing research!!

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 11:25 am

        schoosh you!!!!!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 11:24 am

      That’s cause everybody just loves him except defense lawyers!!!!! Hope can you help not when he is just so passionate about his case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 11:28 am

        That’s the main attraction to him. He fights for the victim and doesn’t tone it down because you think he’s being mean. He always stands his ground!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 11:31 am

        Oh Yeah!! Yesterday me and the hubby were watching Snapped and gues who we see… JM himself on a different case from 2004. He won that one by the way 🙂

        On a side note 4 back to back episodes of Snapped yesterday all bought Phoenix, AZ or thereabouts. Just saying it’s not on my list of places to move to now!

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 11:42 am

        I’ve watched him on several other cases as well and he always is the same – wants justice for the victims and takes such good care of the family. It’s truly a joy to watch him in action because he is so passionate, focused and determined to get to the truth!!! Wish there were more like him!!!

  53. Anna
    04/15/2013 at 11:13 am

    Tracey A :

    Syntara :
    I was ignoring requests and told Anna it was secret Syn Stuff now Trace blew it!

    pffftt! Like the rest of us don’t have Google…..wtf????

    Trace, my love, we have another problem LOL…I actually DID google it but came up empty. And cold. And expressionless….gaw….you and your mean friend Syn have now ruined the world of internet facial expressions for this old woman. I mean it IS 90% of communication after all. I shall never emoti again…..I’m changing you to ‘peanut m&m’!! maybe…
    Hey friend! Hope you slept well and thanks for the riot last night! 🙂

    • Anna
      04/15/2013 at 11:16 am

      i’m in moderation…?

      • 04/15/2013 at 12:57 pm

        Anna… one thing about you… it’s never moderation! 😀

  54. Marilyn N
    04/15/2013 at 11:28 am

    Good morning everybody – TGIM!! 🌷🌷🌷

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 11:31 am

      Mornin’

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 11:34 am

      Hi Marilyn *******waves**********

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:58 pm

      morning.. 🙂 it is now 😀

  55. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 11:38 am

    Here is a post that Katiecoolady sent out on twitter. It was originally posted on Websleuths by ProtectOurKids

    Originally Posted by ProtectOurKids
    I want to thank Alyce for helping this jury have a vision of the truth of Travis Alexander’s life.

    I wonder how many jurors held back tears as they heard of a 6 year old who had been repeatedly beaten by his mother and father. Who remembered living under a car part in a yard. Who remembered a mother sleeping off drug induced stupors. Who remembered searching for food and having to eat moldy bread. Who endured the laughter of going to school covered in filthy clothes…..

    As you, Alyce, recited this from Travis’s own writings, I wonder how many jurors glanced over at his siblings realizing that those sitting there also went through this childhood experience and the ages they might have been at the time. You know, Alyce, I did not see a tear in your eye as you recited this horrific story. Nor did I hear a break in your tone of voice.

    Also, thank you, Alyce for giving the juror’s and the world a chance to see the real Travis. When asked about emails you did mention the ones from two women who recited to Travis REAL domestic violence in their marriages. And what was that you said Travis told them, Alyce? Did I hear you say that Travis told them “THAT IS NOT RIGHT”. You said Travis knew his scriptures well and was a mentor in PPL and the Church. And he advised these women from his spiritual side vs his sexual side, right Alyce?

    As you sat on the throne of a court room witness chair you were so quick to judge so many things. Yet you refused to see that you did not have the experience to judge Travis. You, who have no idea how couples speak to each other in today’s world vs the world of the 60’s and 70’s chose to sit in that seat. You spoke of rant’s and degradement yet you have no idea in this day and age how couples speak to each other in private do you? You have no idea about words used to banter back and forth via texting do you Alyce? You have no idea what words or tone used in written words mean when used in a sexual content, or used between two people, do you?

    No, Alyce, you do not know. But, the majority of us and the juror’s who represent us do.

    You, Alyce,you chose to tell us about what a wonderful motivational speaker Travis was. I suggest you read some of those speeches and learn from this young man exactly why the world has chosen to regard you in a very negative way. It is 90% from your word and only 10% from your body language.

    JMO

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 11:44 am

      Kudos to the writer!

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:47 am

      MMD, I hadn’t read this, but I thank you very much for sharing. It makes AL look like the bigoted, biased, non-expert that we have come to know.

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 11:48 am

        Yeah, come to know, dislike, disrespect and even hate!!!

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:08 pm

      MMD~~thank you for sharing. What a heart wrenching story. How do people not show any emotion in speaking of these things done to children?? She (ALV) is so lacking. And in telling this info how do you dismiss his siblings in court. So lacking empathy.

    • Wendy
      04/15/2013 at 12:22 pm

      Excellent!

  56. Anniefreeze
    04/15/2013 at 11:40 am

    Hi Nienna, Wendy, MMD, syntara, grace, wis, liane, Cruz, jad….sorry if I missed any. TY for your brilliant contributions, donchais and so many posters here give so much. i have zero criminal trial knowlege, im just a boring accountant.🔍💵. Ty Whereisshe for the link to the court dockets….I’m peeking on there now.

    After the trial ends, does anyone know where the sealed minutes will appear(on the maricopa county website?) and all the transcribed court discussions docs, i would love to hear what they say during some of those bench meetings and chambers conversations. The dockets only records a summary of the days events, where is the beef?

    This is an example of docket detail.
    Ex: IT IS ORDERED all bench conferences shall remain sealed not to be produced or transcribed until the conclusion of the trial.
    4/8/13. 9:55 a.m. Court convenes in chambers with Defendant, counsel for the Defendant and Alyce LaViolette present.

    MMD it is 50 and partly cloudy. What is it like up there….did I send you 50 degrees from yesterday? 👋

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 11:45 am

      Nope it is 39 but clear and no snow/rain combo today!!! Supposed to get high 40’s on Tuesday and Wednesday so thanks 🙂

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 11:45 am

      *** waves ***

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 11:47 am

      BTW, I was married to a CA and accountants are NOT boring – when let loose, like the first week of May, they’re a wild bunch!!!! Except my ex – he was and I assume is still an ass!!! 😉

    • Wendy
      04/15/2013 at 12:23 pm

      Hi! 😊

  57. Anniefreeze
    04/15/2013 at 11:49 am

    Syntara :
    what’s ET and PT? which is AZ time?

    Syntara, you probably already know this, MMD is in Atlantic time, AT which is one hour ahead or ET. There is a great map on google that shows the time zones, I looked up all those zones last month.

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:39 pm

      bet ya didn’t loo up mine! 😛

      • 04/15/2013 at 12:40 pm

        gah… *look even

  58. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 11:50 am

    Nienna :
    I thought so too! Very non-feminine hands!

    Now Now don’t go throwing words like “feminine” around! We dont want any gender bashing here! There is no “masculine” or “feminine” we are all “homo sapien, don’t ya know?

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 11:53 am

      My apologies.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 11:58 am

        Hahahaha PC patrol out-pass the word! (see above)

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:13 pm

      Now Robert if you check out Nienna’s post upstairs, currently #186 called Nurmi Big Butt Redneck Fat Balls… you may change your opinion!!!!!!!!!! ROFL

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 12:38 pm

        hey! already saw it and LOLed..left my snark right after it.

  59. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 12:02 pm

    Wow. Just caught up on the reading! Who said there was a day off! Great research, new info, comments, soul baring sharings, questioning. Great all.
    (of course a liitle PC snuck in, but I’m the PC patrol and I’m on duty!),

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:06 pm

      Morning Robert – we don’t want PC today from you we want snark OK!!!!!!! 🙂

    • Anna
      04/15/2013 at 12:13 pm

      Hi Robert…how’s your wife? Have the Amazon boxes starting arriving for her yet? 🙂

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 12:35 pm

        I didn’t even know what a few of them do! They got curly things on them I dont know where they go!

  60. Anniefreeze
    04/15/2013 at 12:03 pm

    Hi Chris Harris, if you read this…..I followed you on twitter. My name is Anne Marie @207shybear. If anyone else wants to follow, I seldom comment, gifted with eloquent writing skills (not). but I do read some of whom I follow and I would surely follow you.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:10 pm

      Did you grow those beautiful sunflowers?????????

  61. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 12:11 pm

    Hello Hello!! It’s off to trial we go!! I’ve missed you all and now trying to catch up (still). Need to ride the elevator back to the top floor on this day. I ended up bringing home the $ that I took, so I guess I can consider that a win. yay!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:14 pm

      Howdy Moon 🙂

  62. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 12:12 pm

    Robert in Rotterdam :Since earlier I saw that the blog nanny has appeared and taken us to task for using language the way we do in everyday life, I thought I’d anticipate the latest PC instruction:
    Oh My! I must say that I am very disappointed with ALL of you. It is so distressing to see Fat Bashing instead of legal talk “appropiriate” to the trial.Really, I thought you here more “mature” and “insightfull.” Surely, even though many of you are not annointed by a legal degree, and therefore shouldn’t really speak on legal matters, I thought you’d show some maturity ,
    (isn’t this a version of “if you were in my group, I’d give you a time out”?)

    Really, Robert?
    You equate my mere sadness over gay bashing with being a “blog nanny”? I certainly didn’t attempt to lay down any rules. I just expressed my own personal sadness over it.
    Call me a nanny all you like.
    I am not comfortable with gay-bashing or racism, and I stand proudly in my shoes.

    As for my comments on the legal issues, I think you are missing the tone of my posts.
    My intention is to share what I know with others who read here who have an interest in those matters.

    If I somehow missed (up above somewhere, perhaps?) that I have become the target of such misunderstanding, let me apologize to any who have been offended.
    I meant no harm, and certainly know that this blog is a great place to share opinions, feelings, humor and the like.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 12:27 pm

      And Robert…
      Your attempt to liken me to LaViolette and her time-out statement is absurd.
      All I said was that it made me sad.

      Everyone here who has read my posts knows where I stand on the real issues in this case.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 12:42 pm

        res ipsa loquiter

      • Lisa M
        04/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

        And I’d like to add that seeing Nurmi depicted the way he was in the above video made me “sad.” No need for it. It’s just petty and mean. No one else seems to be bothered by it, including you, WIS.

      • kCruz123
        04/15/2013 at 1:43 pm

        Lisa I agree with you. I like this site because it has gathered so many people who want justice for Travis. But I’m not sure why some feel it necessary to produce such stuff.

    • 04/15/2013 at 12:34 pm

      The only comments I’ve made regarding ALV’s sexuality, is in regards to how certain elements of our media are beginning to circle the wagons around her, in light of the recent, and overwhelming criticism of her “witness testimony” in this trial.

      I simply made the point that the reason the media are protecting her, to one degree or another, is because she is a member of two classes the media hold sacred: she’s a lesbian, and a feminist (circa 1970s). The media could really care less about the specifics of what our legitimate criticisms of this woman are; they see ALV–homosexual and feminist–being attacked, and they will not allow that happen. If ALV were a Christian counselor, the media would’ve led the charge in castigating her.

      Now, onto the trial!

  63. Anniefreeze
    04/15/2013 at 12:15 pm

    kCruz123 :

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/122012/m5544446.pdf
    I also read that there was supposed to be a ruling on in this on/about 2/2013, but am wondering if the ruling was postponed? I think this was around the time that Dr. DeMarte’s home was burglarized. I have found several different ideas, reference the acronym but this one sounds most interesting:
    <a
    Cruz, this was a great, Ty. Does this website contain the court transcriptions? I'll save the link if yes. 😻

    • kCruz123
      04/15/2013 at 2:26 pm

      Annie, this is a site that has the minutes, but not transcripts. It is a ‘timeline’ of all proceedings (motions, meetings in judge’s chambers, etc. Alot of the info gives dates/times but then states that the info discussed is ‘sealed’ until further notice. I did find it interesting that for Dr. Demarte, the defense wanted to stop her presentation of results for something referred to as “SARA”. It doesn’t detail what this is & just from searching online I found that this is an acronym for numerous things that could be related to this case and Dr. Demarte’s practice. 1) Spousal Assault Risk Assessment, 2) Sexual Assault Risk Assessment Guide, and 3) Sexual Addiction Risk Assessment (SARA).

      Per my post above: a “motion in limine is: “A motion in limine is a motion that asks the judge to prevent certain pieces of evidence from being brought up during the trial. The phrase “in limine” is Latin and means “at the threshold.” Motions in limine are used to stop certain evidence “at the threshold” so that they don’t get “in the door” and infect the case.”
      (ref: http://www.rotlaw.com/legal-library/what-is-a-motion-in-limine/ )

      This site is made for kids but it has a lot of interesting information on how an investigation/trial proceeds, along with legal terms and information.

      http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/kidspage/step2.html

  64. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:18 pm

    Morning WIS 🙂

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 12:29 pm

      Morning, MMD=)
      (I don’t eat meat either, and was just as glad as you after watching that clip!)

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 12:33 pm

        Truly gross isn’t it!!!!! 😦

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 12:29 pm

      Everytime I see WIS I get the 80s song “where is she” stuck in my head. 🙂 It’s a good one though.

  65. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:20 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Willmott was here on another case just now. Hearings for #JodiArias are supposed to start at 9:30 and should be live streamed.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:20 pm

      notice the “should”????? Really hope that they are!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 12:30 pm

        Ditto!!!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 12:31 pm

        Really don’t want to wait until 4:30

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 12:32 pm

        or 5:30 – 6 in NFLD LOL

  66. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:27 pm

    MC Superior Court@courtpio
    Jury told to return at 1:30 pm in State v. #JodiArias. Hearings this morning at 9:30 am.

  67. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:31 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Judge asks Nurmi how long this part of the hearing will take. He says half hour to an hour. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Lonnie is struggling to setup the pull down screen at the moment. Nurmi is lurching around. We are waiting patiently as usual. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Attorneys are out of sidebar. Grace is asked to bring her laptop outside the courtroom.

  68. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:34 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    The screen is setup on an angle where only the judge can see it right now. Lonnie is still tinkering with his laptop

    Not looking promising………………… 😦

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:35 pm

      but that could be just about the 1/2 hour part that Wurmi was talking about………..she says hopefully

  69. SCK
    04/15/2013 at 12:35 pm

    Anyone else seriously worried about the proceedings this morning?

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:36 pm

      Nope – You?????? I’m just concerned that they won’t be live streamed.

      • SCK
        04/15/2013 at 12:46 pm

        It’s the In Session issue that worries me.

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 12:37 pm

      I’m not. I don’t think JM would ever do anything that would cause a mistrial.

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 12:37 pm

        That is “seriously” worried.

  70. 04/15/2013 at 12:41 pm

    Nice to see Judge Sherry Stephens fianally getting tough. I think she’s as tired as we are of Gidget’s objections.

    “Your Honor, may we approach?”

  71. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 12:41 pm

    Court is in session

  72. dpforjodi
    04/15/2013 at 12:43 pm

    Hi EveryJuan
    I am so behind in the weekend posts (yesterday #637)
    Marilyn I watched Dear Zacharey this weekend. It was so very sad. Andrew Bagby was another Travis and Shirley Turner was another hodi. His parents wouldn’t give up and got the laws changed here. Kudos to them. One thing was mentioned that was true re Newfoundland weather 8 months of winter and 4 months of bad weather. Hi MMD, Syntara and Bubblebutts. Looks like it is coming on gotta go.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 12:44 pm

      Morning folks 🙂 Court is in session!

  73. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 12:45 pm

    Arias has a boo-boo on her chin..

  74. Wendy
    04/15/2013 at 12:45 pm

    OMG Not even a ? before approach!

  75. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 12:46 pm

    Oh shit Wurmi talking again God help us

  76. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 12:46 pm

    Douglme :Thank you for the explanation. I hope you are not assuming I was one of the ones gay bashing. I do not partake in that activity when many do. I may not find a witness believable and don’t agree with their testiphony but attacking someone regarding their personal preferences is not my style.

    Sorry if you thought that part was directed to you Douglme=( It was in response to another post, and I opted not to reply to that one directly.

    For you, I just wanted to clarify the procedure on an in-case-you-wanted-to-know sort of basis.
    I love that people who may not be familiar with the process are so involved in the case, and I know that the courtroom proceedings and “lingo” can be like a foreign language at times, so sometimes just a simple explanation of the rules of the courtroom make following what is going on with the lawyers and the judge a little easier to interpret.

  77. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 12:47 pm

    now some third rate “reporter” who should never become “part of the story” is on screen.

  78. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:48 pm

    Getting lots of chicken wings today from Nurmi!!

  79. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:49 pm

    How about showing the original video that channel 13 did before HLN cut it all to hell!!!

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 12:50 pm

      I’m JM will if DT doesn’t.

  80. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 12:52 pm

    Oh no! Both JA and family in jury box?!

  81. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:53 pm

    Nothing like seating the Alexanders behind Gidget and JA?????????????

  82. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 12:54 pm

    God almighty making the family sit in the jury box!!!! Where is the Judge’s sense?

  83. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:55 pm

    At least the Alexanders can see what JA is writing!!!!

  84. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 12:56 pm

    appalling

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:06 pm

      Robheeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr my little fireball! the snark …. and even in latin LOL!!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 1:19 pm

        🙂

  85. 04/15/2013 at 12:58 pm

    This judge is just the worst! My heart is breaking for TA’s family right now!!! Unbelievable!!! I can’t even watch!!

  86. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 12:58 pm

    This is a circle jerk

  87. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 12:59 pm

    Awe Sam is crying and Tameka is trying not to

  88. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 12:59 pm

    going to show dancing ninjas in his eyes?

  89. Wendy
    04/15/2013 at 12:59 pm

    If I were the Alexanders I would want to come across the seat and hurt someone!

  90. Marilyn N
    04/15/2013 at 1:01 pm

    I am certain JA thinks she is far more experienced in photography than this guy!!ha

  91. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 1:01 pm

    they should blank the photo out until he gets to actual testimony

  92. Marilyn N
    04/15/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Looks like family couldn’t deal with JA so close. Moved her away before another possible murder!!

  93. Wendy
    04/15/2013 at 1:03 pm

    She is not Sharon Stone!!

  94. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Yet another example of a system that is broken. CYA is not restricted to government bureaucrats. It is alive and very well preserved by our courts.A rule isn’t really a rule since the lawyers approach on every other question. Who doesn’t know their job in that equation? Oh my, we dont want to be “appealed” because we didnt make the victims family sit 2 feet beind the murderer in the JURY BOX to make them all “feel” like they really know what the photographer–whose father worked at NBC-thinks.

  95. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:06 pm

    Thankfully they moved JA and GIdget!!!!

  96. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 1:06 pm

    What are they going to enhance?

  97. 04/15/2013 at 1:09 pm

    noooooooo my stream dropped Nooooooooooooooooo

  98. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 1:09 pm

    Good day everyone! Does anyone know what a Daubert hearing is? I think that’s what the Judge called it. Thx.

  99. 04/15/2013 at 1:10 pm

    why was the family crying Im outside the loop noo nooo have to restart my puter! MELTDOWN RABBIT HOLE TIME waaaaaa

  100. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 1:11 pm

    getting a bad feeling…this guy is credible… what could it be?

  101. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:11 pm

    What is Wurmi’s point exactly?????????????????????? Anybody know??????????????

    • Douglme
      04/15/2013 at 1:29 pm

      I am trying to figure out what the point is here myself. It is just more wasting of the court time. I cannot imagine what defense is getting out of this?

  102. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 1:14 pm

    where did the ho go? i thought she was sitting in the jury box? deputy still standing there but now the ho isn’t ??

  103. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:14 pm

    “cpu gp twice HD graphics card”–okay the guy has the lingo.
    He doesn’t testify much; he’s a busy guy, doesn’t work just for one side. About 12 for the State now and maybe same amount for the defense.’ I just “enhance” and “clean up” photos and makes no interpretation’
    No qualification as an “expert” (he says there are “so-called experts” that go to school. He says, if you do it all the time,you figure it out.
    He name drops so that we are imptressed. Worried that his info might be not so interesting I guess.
    All this for a photo–the last known photo of their brother alive and they put them through this for this photo?It better be worth it.

    .

  104. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:15 pm

    rectolinear? Ah thats wobo’s field

  105. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:15 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    “eeeeannnnndddddd” © 2013 Kirk Nurmi

    ROFL

  106. 04/15/2013 at 1:16 pm

    what photo I wonder assuming this is a defense witness? my stream just is back I missed the rest

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 1:18 pm

      It’s the pic of TA sitting in the shower.The face shot.

  107. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

    Oh he’s gonna FIND a ninja in Travis’ eye! Thats it!

  108. SCK
    04/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

    Nienna :
    That is “seriously” worried.

    ??

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 1:19 pm

      Worried but not seriously worried 🙂

  109. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:18 pm

    I wonder if this has anything to do with the photo that was blown up and supposedly shows JA in his reflection???????????

  110. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 1:19 pm

    This guy testified before for the defense. He was after Chris Hughes I think. I didn’t pay much attention to his testimony tho – something bout pulling info from camera & phones. I just remember him from hanging around the defense table after his initial testimony. Not sure why he’s back.

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:20 pm

      eah he must have found something else

  111. 04/15/2013 at 1:19 pm

    yeah thats it omfg wth has he found?

  112. 04/15/2013 at 1:20 pm

    not worried at all

  113. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Can anyone say Rube Goldberg?

  114. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:21 pm

    waldo, he found Waldo!

    • truejustice
      04/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

      or maybe Jimmy Hoffa

      • Elexa
        04/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

        That’s got to be it! It’s Jimmy Hoffa, for sure!

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

      roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 1:23 pm

      LOL!

  115. truejustice
    04/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

    wow – there has been alot of speculation as to the reflection in the eye. Wish I could be watching today .. 😦

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

      Yeah but Wurmi’s up so it’s not that exciting.

    • Elexa
      04/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

      I don’t think you’re missing much at this point. I think they’re just deciding if this evidence can be admitted and I’m guessing we’ll see it in detail if it’s admitted.

  116. Marilyn N
    04/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Wow – for real? I thought it was in people’s imagination like clouds in the sky!!

  117. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

    This is really silly! I mean, what difference is it going to make if the twat was or was not killing Travis at the moment the picture was taken?

    • truejustice
      04/15/2013 at 1:27 pm

      I would not think any – seems like the defense is really stretching here. (this is the defense witness right ?). Although I am skeptical that judge will allow jury to hear this. Seems almost to speculative.

  118. 04/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    But what’s he gonna come up with?? seriously it cant say she was dropping the camera so whats he gonna say it was the ninja?

  119. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    no hee found Matt! Wobo is throwing him under the bus! The self sefense shit didnt work!

  120. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

    As long as he didn’t see JA’s ‘lady parts’, I’m okay!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 1:29 pm

      LOL!

  121. 04/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

    looks like her face to me but Im over here

  122. 04/15/2013 at 1:27 pm

    well all know she took it with a camera so?????

  123. dpforjodi
    04/15/2013 at 1:28 pm

    he saw 2 ninjas and hodi. I think it is one youtube but i cant post it i’m useless at this stuff

  124. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:28 pm

    OH! it shows that someone is taking a photo!!!OH!! why didn’t you say so? You canttell who it is, but someone is! Oh well, thats a relief.

  125. 04/15/2013 at 1:28 pm

    yep goes still with the attack at that time theory… next!

  126. 04/15/2013 at 1:29 pm

    he better have more than looking into a freaking camera

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 1:30 pm

      LOL my thoughts exactly

  127. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 1:32 pm

    If it looks like someone other than Arias is in the enhancement that indicates she’s going to change her plea… is that possible?

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:34 pm

      nobody but her was taking that shot

  128. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:32 pm

    He spent last week with the Zapruder film and he found the shooter on the grassy knoll! This is just to give him PR during the 50th of JFK’s murder.

    • PAM
      04/15/2013 at 1:37 pm

      ROFL….

  129. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:32 pm

    “for purposes of this hearing only”
    Anyone have a clue what that means?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 1:34 pm

      not part of the trial. She is trying to dwtwrmine whther or not th ejuros should see this; whether it is admissable.

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:35 pm

      no jurors yet hearing for admissability I guess

  130. 04/15/2013 at 1:33 pm

    wurmi has been looking at too much social media think he’s got the idea of the net

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 1:34 pm

      Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  131. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 1:33 pm

    can someone please explain what is the POINT in all of this? are they trying to say that is not Ho’s reflection??? im cornfused….

  132. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:35 pm

    Let’s see…… we already know who took these pictures, what on earth is the point of this?

  133. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:35 pm

    its CASPER the GHOST!

    • Grace
      04/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Kind of looks like the Blue Fairy with WoBo’s head?

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 1:43 pm

        Lol

  134. 04/15/2013 at 1:36 pm

    ROOBEEEEEEEEERRRRRRTTTT the ninjas are back!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 1:37 pm

      between laughs Im starting to think wtf?

      • 04/15/2013 at 1:40 pm

        can …… this……… trial……… get…….. more….. bizarre???

  135. PAM
    04/15/2013 at 1:36 pm

    They are grasping at straws!!! Just turned in the live stream and seems like Wurmi is trying to show that there are two people in travis’s iris based on what some guy said he saw. Is this what I am looking at on live stream….plus, are there storms in AZ as my livestream is going in and out. Thanks for any answers.

  136. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 1:36 pm

    It appears to be a stalling tactic so JM cannot start his rebuttal until. What a waste of precious court time!

  137. 04/15/2013 at 1:37 pm

    rofl roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is tooooooooo funny

  138. 04/15/2013 at 1:37 pm

    seriously wormy got this from the net!!! he spends all his time trolling

    • LindaLou
      04/15/2013 at 1:46 pm

      I agree Syn. I saw a similar video on youtube.

  139. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:38 pm

    I can draw stuff too. Can I be a witness?

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Yes!!! Dr Doodle scribbles…. LaLas air graphs and space continuums….. pupil ninjas…. and elexa what you got?

      • Elexa
        04/15/2013 at 1:44 pm

        frying pans eyes LOTS of ’em!

      • 04/15/2013 at 1:46 pm

        hell u can sell em on amazon!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Yep for the defense!!! LOL

  140. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:38 pm

    they made the family sit there behind the killer in the jury box for THAT????????

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 1:40 pm

      Yes! Nice huh?

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:44 pm

      disgusting…. but if you don’t laugh you sob!

  141. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 1:39 pm

    The heat is JUAN!

  142. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:40 pm

    another third rate hanger on sucking off the tits of the government and courts!

  143. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Judge Stephens made them do that for THAT?????????She ought to try and order a pair since she is never going to grow them. or even borrow them!

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:45 pm

      the point is… we know he was looking into a camera….. sooooooooo??? that is ridiculous! and the shape is her in bellbottom pants anyhow

  144. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:43 pm

    well hes working 29 cases and working 7 days a week but cant tell us the case he testified to…namwe of case, judge…Heat is Juan!

  145. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:45 pm

    another LaLa!!!! He gave “evidentiary reports” but not testimony! Hahahahah another hack from the ranks of those who want 15 minutes now.

  146. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:45 pm

    The judge looks a tad flushed today – hope she’s not getting sick!

  147. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:46 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I feel like Juan should have a spotlight on him, following him around in the dark courtroom this morning

    I agree 🙂

  148. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:47 pm

    He wants to get the same gigs these other “experts” get. He said earlier he didnt think much of experts because he wasnt one but it looks like he certainnly wants to be on that gravy train!

  149. 04/15/2013 at 1:47 pm

    I wanna see it withotun the lines

  150. 04/15/2013 at 1:48 pm

    hahaha thankyou juan You’re my guy!

  151. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 1:49 pm

    What is with all these defense “experts” who want to impress us with how hard they work? They insist on implying attorneys are falling all over themselves, clamoring for their knowledge, desperate to have them on their case. ALV spent “44 hours” interviewing, endless hours reading and reviewing; this jerk works 7 days a week . . . How many hours do they think Juan has put in on this case? Do they think he doesn’t work 7 days a week? Get over yourself, people,

  152. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:49 pm

    This is utter and complete insanity.

  153. 04/15/2013 at 1:50 pm

    I dont see anything so bring your equipment or I aint believing it!!!

  154. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:50 pm

    I think they’re going to admit the pictures but no line drawings.

    • Elexa
      04/15/2013 at 1:51 pm

      But again, what the heck is the point?

  155. Kathy A.
    04/15/2013 at 1:52 pm

    What a waste of everybody’s time!

    • Elexa
      04/15/2013 at 1:53 pm

      It’s good that the poor jury didn’t have to watch this crap, they’ve wasted too much time already.

  156. 04/15/2013 at 1:52 pm

    I saw pics on the net that say she is coming at him with a knife reflected and it looked better than his!!

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:53 pm

      and I dont believe it.. so I aint believing the fat white lines

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

      Methinks another career is self destructing

  157. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 1:54 pm

    Isn’t the bottom line what we already knew…… She was there and she took the pictures. So?

  158. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 1:54 pm

    Jay :Hi WhereIsShe:Two comments on your comments…
    First,I appreciated the legal expertise, cogently expressed. But not so much appreciated your clarifying declaration to DougIme that judges ‘don’t “sustain questions” which seemed phrased too pedantically for an 8-AM posting (not even thru my first cup of coffee): it was pretty obvious he meant to say he agreed that was why the judge ‘didn’t sustain objections against him.’ Which means I thought your correction was a wee bit condescending this early in the morning.
    Second: there are no absolutes, and gay-bashing (another one of these blanket terms used indiscriminately to cover a multitude of P.C. sins) is as acceptable as straight-bashing if merited. If LaViolette is a lesbian with a penchant for demonizing men don’t you think that’s relevant to her testimony about Travis? She certainly had no trouble assassinating his character in absentia. If she was married to a man but left him for a woman isn’t it possible she may have subconscious resentments to men in general? The literature — psychological and criminal — is full of cases involving man hating lesbians, or haven’t you heard of Valarie Solanas, the radical feminist lesbian who tried to murder Andy Warhol, and the author of the SCUM Manifesto (Society for Cutting Up Men) – and no, she didn’t mean cutting up photos for her scrapbook. And if LaViolette is a man hating lesbian why would you object to describing her that way? If the shoe fits, why not make her wear it?

    Sorry if it was too lecture-ish so early in the a.m.
    Was not meant in a condescending tone; was meant just to clarify for those who might wish to learn more about the intracasies of courtroom proceedings. Perhaps it was too much. I’ll certainly accept that as constructive criticism.

    I tend to think in terms of being in the courtroom, so, no, I don’t think her life history (married to a man; left him for a woman–as you state, I have no knowledge of that) is legally relevant.
    I think her obvious bias in favor of Jodi and her obvious prejudice against Travis speaks for itself.
    Take her personal life out of the equation and you are still left with a tainted, invalid opinion.

    Not sure why two women who have nothing to do with this case (the Andy Warhol example and the other) have anything to do with this dicussion. Same for guesswork about this witness’s personal life and how it may or may not have anything to do with her opinions in this case.
    I think it’s rather easy to take apart her opinions just based on the actual facts of the case, without resorting to generalizations and name-calling.

    I was simply stating that it made me sad– the generalizations.
    If I were on a site where someone was being generalized about for being hetero, I would feel the same way.

    I have been very clear that I am disgusted by her testimony, and particularly the things she has said about–and attributed to–Travis, based on the words of a known and proven liar.
    There is a big difference between someone being gender-biased (which ALV clearly has shown herself to be) and a “man-hater”.
    Plenty of people, straight and gay alike, are gender-biased, but it does not logically follow that they are actual “haters” of the opposite gender.

    I think Juan Martinez did a fabulous job in the courtroom of exposing her obvious gender bias.

  159. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:54 pm

    Jodi is asking Gidget, “Does that picture make me look fat?”

    • 04/15/2013 at 1:59 pm

      rOFL!!!!!

  160. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

    I like the witness. Make a great character on CSI show. And I believe he saw those ‘lines’ – so what? It’s not identifiable as anyone other than Arias. Andthe purpose for the defense is to show WHERE the camera was.

  161. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

    Juan didnt even bother re-directing. That guy? No way.

  162. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

    Now it’s gonna get really boring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  163. PAM
    04/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

    The Alexander girls are smiling…..go Juan.

  164. 04/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

    well we freakin knew that!!! how else did the photo get onto the memory stick if there was no person taking the shot or no camera to take it with??? can we say Einstein!!!

  165. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 1:57 pm

    Juan saw a nose and a snout — IT REALLY IS WOBO IN THE REFLECTION!!!!!

  166. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 1:58 pm

    dog, gopher, love it!!!!!!! LOL

  167. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 1:58 pm

    It’s a DOG! Thanks, Juan, we were wondering!

  168. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 1:58 pm

    SORRY — EARS AND A SNOUT — BUT IT’S STILL WOBO.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 1:59 pm

      🙂

  169. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 1:58 pm

    Look at the expertwannabe sitting where Nurmi sits and grinning. He’s is PRAYING he gets to testify; he’ll quit his shitty job with Mesa police and hit the Doc and LaLa circuit.

  170. stephanie
    04/15/2013 at 1:59 pm

    HAHAHAHA it’s a DOG!!!!

  171. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Can you say “Woof”, Jodi??

  172. Anonymous
    04/15/2013 at 2:00 pm

    I think maybe Wurmi wants to argue something in closings about where WOBO was standing or kneeling or something ….. maybe how it impacts her body slamming story or something like that ….

  173. 04/15/2013 at 2:01 pm

    LOLOLOL Wormi is talking about Juan skewing reality??? hello??????

  174. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Knowing Juan as we all do, I really think he came up with “dog” as a direct jab, perhaps in return for the “short man” tweet.

  175. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Now Wurmi is trying to ridicule my man!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unacceptable!!!!! 😦 hands on hips

  176. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

    This is ridiculous! I never saw anything in that eye…did anyone else?

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 2:07 pm

      Even if we did… everyone would see something different it’s like clouds in the sky.

  177. Wendy
    04/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

    What….is…..the……point? I don’t get it.

    • Elexa
      04/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

      They’re going back to the “jodi wasn’t even there”, defense.

  178. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Wurmi is now auditioning for the roles Orson Welles used to play. He makes grand gestues and uses flowery language. He’s figuring hes through after this. Maybe a stage in Phoenix will give him a shot? he’ll join LaLa for Depends, pretty soon.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 2:04 pm

      on Juan: “that dog won’t bite” says tghe Worm

  179. 04/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

    it’s absolutely ridiculous.. if the judge lets this in Im seriously down the rabbit hole again.. have the pic at the ready Chrissie!!

  180. 04/15/2013 at 2:04 pm

    omg they are going to the lab! I feel it

  181. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Wow Wurmi has left and right chicken wings going now!!! still unimpressed!

  182. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Wurmi just loving hearing himself talk! He has not relevant argument.

  183. Kathy A.
    04/15/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Can someone explain how admitting these photos helps the defense case? What the point is?

    • Elexa
      04/15/2013 at 2:05 pm

      Ask Nurmi

      • Kathy A.
        04/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

        Oh, please nooooooo! 🙂 Anything but that.

  184. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Even if it looked EXACTLY like joho, what is the POINT???? She said she took the pictures. duh

  185. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 2:06 pm

    But how does this help their case? Is anyone else as lost as I am on this?

  186. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Was this the last witness the defense was going to call?

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:10 pm

      it’s a recall he testified already mel.. but i dont know if he is the last cos ms Wong might be considered his as well although thats a separate issue… ill shut up now cos basically I duuno what Im on about

  187. 04/15/2013 at 2:06 pm

    so???? we know she took the pic! sooo???????????????

  188. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Can ya buy ties in extra extra long??????????? serious question???? cause Wurmi always has one that covers his massive belly. just curious

    • Marilyn N
      04/15/2013 at 2:12 pm

      He needs to wear a vest!

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:12 pm

      LOL!! Just spewed green tea all over my keyboard and monitor!!!

  189. 04/15/2013 at 2:07 pm

    it was after this she stabbed him! nobody said she stabbed him before this or as this photo was taken so what the hell … I see a chihuahua toooooooooooo

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 2:13 pm

      OMG! It was Napoleon all along 😛

      • 04/15/2013 at 2:16 pm

        LOLOL!!!

  190. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:08 pm

    the clown is not allowed to give his “interpretation” of the picture; he “enhances” and thats it.
    To say that one “cant see the knife” is absurd in something you cant see at all. Might as well see n an elephant.

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:11 pm

      hey wormi fuckled up!!!! he said no knife……….. defense claims gun…. he shoulda said no gun!!!!

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 2:20 pm

        I think he is alluding to the point that they want us to believe TA was shot and not stabbed first.

      • 04/15/2013 at 2:23 pm

        well duh! I always said she couldnt hold a gun or knife to him and hold her beloved cam… so???? nothing changes anyhow…… soooooooooo ridiculous Mr Slug!

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 2:20 pm

      Come on, Robert — if he was testifying for the prosecution and his sketches showed a figure holding what looked like a knife in one hand you’d be calling him a nerdy but charming fellow.

  191. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:11 pm

    expertwannabe still sitting and thinking of the big bucks.

  192. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:12 pm

    This judge has worked with JM for so many times so she is well familiar with his ethics and morals and has had no problems.

    Wurmi is just jealous that he doesn’t have a fan club!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 2:15 pm

      gmta 🙂

      • MMD
        04/15/2013 at 2:18 pm

        🙂 bay

  193. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Is Nurmi looking at his big stomach?

    • Marilyn N
      04/15/2013 at 2:16 pm

      Searching for his feet……

  194. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Wurmi more and more looking desperate.”Hes standing out there having a fan club meeting”
    this kills Wurmi, He sees the attention Juan got, cant stand it and has to grasp at something.
    Basically, he’ohohoh he uses tghe word “continuum”!!!!! Juan has a “continuum” OMG

  195. Marilyn N
    04/15/2013 at 2:14 pm

    G R A S P I N G !!

  196. 04/15/2013 at 2:15 pm

    I can’t believe how stupid wormy is… why would he undermine his own defense ‘strategy’ by suggesting she would have knife. She says she shot him first and doesn’t even remember a knife…. he made the slip cos the idea he got this from outlines her with a knife!

  197. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:16 pm

    GREAT!!!!! maybe more pennies hahahahahahahah

  198. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 2:17 pm

    The judge is going to DENY the motion for a mistrial because the jurors all stated that they did not see it.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

      Note though that she did send a message: she doesn’t want to see more evidence and hence, more argument, on this issue.
      No more cane-signing or photo-ops until after the verdict is in! JM will be grateful if people will wait a few weeks to get his autograph and pic!

  199. Marilyn N
    04/15/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Nurmi just threw down his pen!! OMG!

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:18 pm

      he an barely reach the table cos of his gut

      • 04/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

        *can

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

      Yeah hoping that JM will file for a mistrial – NEVER GONNA HAPPEN LOL

  200. Anonymous
    04/15/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Yes!!!!

  201. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Yes!!!

  202. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Since I know nothing about law could she change her defense at this point? I don’t know where he’s going w this but thinking he’s trying to show there was more than 1 killer or not her….

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 2:20 pm

      she already tried that with the ninja story

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:21 pm

      nah cos he just says it shows her with the camera.. so even let in I mean sheesh… we know that or the freakin photo would not have been in the washing machine!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 2:26 pm

      She has a major problem: she ADMITTED, under oath, to killing Travis.
      FYI: it wouldn’t change her plea. Her plea is “Not Guilty”.
      It would only change her defense–and it is way too late for that. Way, way, way, way, way too late. She has already admitted it; she had Dr. Fog explain WHY she doesn’t remember it– remember– it was so “traumatic” that she suffered PTSD and therefore her amygdala and her hippocampus (allegedly) stopped her brain from forming any memories of it. Then, she had ALV go and on about domestic violence and abuse in order to (allegedly) “justify” her “response” to her claim of alleged “fear” for her very life.

      There is also absolutely zero forensic evidence of any other person having been there. None.

  203. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Now we got Wurmi pulling a version of the Doc Dodgy: Juan had too much VERACITY and now Wurmi says he was TOO GOOD against LaLa and teases us with “info” that is(national security type stuff) “sealed”

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:25 pm

      a la gus searcy and his secret car occupant

  204. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:22 pm

    I can’t believe that they are trying to save Dr. Quack and ALV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  205. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 2:22 pm

    I know!!! There really WERE 2 ninjas but she didn’t want to “deedify” them so lied to protect them!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 2:31 pm

      LOL!!

  206. Elexa
    04/15/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Trying to …… pull….. pull….. pulllllllll myself away from here. lol
    I’m going to have to DVR HLN and watch it later. Cya’ll later!

  207. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:23 pm

    This defense team has WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much time on their hands 😉

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:29 pm

      they arent bothered about their argument all they are doing is working out new ways to conjure up wackos

  208. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:23 pm

    They dragged up the goofy son of the NBC father now. He’s oping – whathe hell, catch as catch can – to be an audio expert here. he just WANTS IN! get him off the whole 9-5, 7 day a week job he breaks his back on. He wants the Doc’s hours.

  209. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:24 pm

    Now JM would have this up and ready to work at the touch of a button

  210. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 2:24 pm

    Was JM in a linebacker stance when he “attacked” Dr Dodgy and Ms. ALV?

  211. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Its the DOC voice. He says wobo was “down and depressed” when FIRST asked why he went back to see her.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 2:31 pm

      and he was not supposed to be doing therapy LOL

  212. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:28 pm

    Great its like the voice of Hamlet’s father!!! Caspar in the picture. It’s Ghost time!.

  213. 04/15/2013 at 2:30 pm

    I dont even get whats going on.. just seems ridiculous

  214. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:31 pm

    Wild About Trial 2 @WildaboutTrial2
    It seems that the nearly 2 million dollar cost of this trial didn’t include microphones and recorders made after 1980’s

    • NancyB
      04/15/2013 at 2:43 pm

      I love Wild’s tweets! He’s very funny 😀

  215. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:31 pm

    Doc on premeditated murder! Who knew we’d get this? I mean “90% of communication is non verbal” but I like hearing this 10% from the Doc! Who knew?

  216. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:32 pm

    Wild About Trial 2 @WildaboutTrial2
    I am not sure I have heard any bullying or attacking by Juan yet. Not sure what part that is.

    Exactly!!!!!

  217. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Doesn’t seem like JM is attacking Dr. Dodgy so far.

  218. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Michael Kiefer@michaelbkiefer
    In this interview by Martinez of Samuels, they talk about premeditated murder. I don’t recall that Samuels testified to that. Precluded?

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 2:41 pm

      yes …. I think because Samuals presented that idea too late …. maybe just before the trial started …. so JM had no time to prepare. Did they say when this tape recording was made?

  219. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 2:34 pm

    OMG. This is all apparently too BORING for Jodi. Did you just catch her acting like someone who could not be less interested??!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 2:36 pm

      She was YAWNING with her hair “cape” all over her face!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 2:43 pm

        She’s just waiting for another 5 day weekend so she can tweet about it like a child on vaca from school.

    • stephanie
      04/15/2013 at 2:46 pm

      Yeah she is drawing right now, she looks like she is invested in the outcome of her case. She doesn’t care, she is more worried about what she is going to tweet tonight and if she can draw the dog that Jaun just described in Travis’s eye.

      • commerce1
        04/15/2013 at 3:09 pm

        They really need to give that bitch some crayons and a coloring book. She is so childish. What right-minded person would sit and nonchalantly draw pictures as if they hadn’t a care in the world while on trial for slaughtering another human being?

        Besides, I’m worried about what harm she might do with those little pencils once Juan’s forensic psychologist gets up there and starts talking about what a sociopathic little bitch she is.

        Sorry. I’m a little irritated with all of it today.

  220. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 2:35 pm

    This is all to waste time, none of what is being said here is abusive or disrespectful. I believe JM only got annoyed when he was being lied to, didn’t he?

  221. LindaLou
    04/15/2013 at 2:35 pm

    Didn’t Nurmi say he wanted to show how JM intimidates the witnesses, Dr. Samuels & ALV?

  222. 04/15/2013 at 2:36 pm

    Im with her I could not be more bored!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 2:41 pm

      Let that be a first and a last, Syn! (being with her, I mean!)

      • 04/15/2013 at 2:45 pm

        LOL yeah but WIS… Im didn’t murder Travis.. in her position I’d be sitting there crying about how I could have done anything remotely like it. The whole time, in fact I wouldn’t be there cos I would have lost my mind either before or after doing such an unthinkable thing.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 3:32 pm

        That’s because you aren’t a manipulative, pathologic-liar-sociopath,fake-“genius”,jail-house-American-Idol-contestant who likes to scribble away with a teeny-tiny-kindergarten-sized pencil during a serious murder trial Syn;)

  223. 04/15/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Dr Dodgy does brain training!!!!! That’s where LALA got her trained brain.

  224. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 2:39 pm

    So far all I heard was some heated exchanges.
    It happens.
    Also-Juan thinks fast, on his feet, and he just naturally speaks what is in his mind, so it comes across in a manner that SOME might misinterpret.
    It happens.

  225. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 2:39 pm

    that was it???? What a waste of time!!!

  226. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:39 pm

    Juan:.hippocamus? Doc: “that explains how the memory capacity is stored and shuts down at the moment of distress. Based on the characteristics of the crime scene and what wobo told him.

    J :what does a blind ;person have to do with ja?
    D: are you serious?
    J:you brought it

    J: do you have a medical degree?
    D: I have taught; I have studied foreensic biology blahblah blah I have this and that and all the other times and yadsa yada yada.
    J: So you dont have a medical degree.,Is that correct?

  227. 04/15/2013 at 2:42 pm

    defense are really good @ one thing Time wasting!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 2:44 pm

      better than really good – super super excellent!!!!

  228. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:43 pm

    Lise Lasalle ‏@LiseLasalle
    JM could urinate in the courtroom and the Judge would not stop this trial. Good luck Nurmi.

  229. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Judge looks totally bored with Wurmi

  230. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 2:46 pm

    He and every other prosecutor in the world. They can all be agressive as well as defense counsel. What is this intimidating the witness BS?

  231. sndlywhplsh
    04/15/2013 at 2:47 pm

    OK, Nurmi’s panties aside, it’s “coup de grace,” not “gras” (“fat”). Although in Nurmi’s case…

  232. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 2:47 pm

    My guess about why the judge called all counsel to the bench before this oral argument is that she admonished both sides not to engage in ad hominem attacks. (They both took pot shots at each other over the motion for mistrial related to the photo ops, etc.)

    *****
    Nurmi up: arguing nonsense. It was not bullying or witness intimidation. It was a brief, heated exchange.
    The judge is not going to agree that Juan bullied or itimidated theses witnesses in her courtroom, right before her very eyes (otherwise she’d be ruling tht she permitted it).

    Motion will obviously be denied.

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:49 pm

      good! and soon I hope! Im drinking too much our of boredom!

  233. 04/15/2013 at 2:47 pm

    yes the dodgy powerpoint

  234. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:48 pm

    All of a sudden Wurmi becomes a expert on “continuums”. And he really cant stand that Juan is much smarter than either of his witnesses or him. Juan gives us a clue to the “sealed”–Judge took the reins and was on Juan’s side..Great! Thanks Juan!

    • 04/15/2013 at 2:53 pm

      yea yeah I nearly spat my drink then I couldn’t refresh he page after that one and my post about it went to the black hole

  235. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 2:50 pm

    Why is this camera expert or whatever he is sitting at the table rolling his eyes and being completely bored while JM is speaking. Can’t he just leave?

  236. 04/15/2013 at 2:50 pm

    Juan needs to twee!!

  237. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 2:51 pm

    OH! He’s speaking about the tweet she made re: his height!!!

  238. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    also, Love that the Juanster referred to “unethical” behavior of the “defense attornys since it would be “useless” to refer to as “unethical”,
    And great! He makes a pooint that the wobo is awitness and undser the same rules.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 3:30 pm

      “it would be useless to describe the defendant as unethical”

  239. 04/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    Yes stop her tweeting she’s on trial for slaughtering a guy in cold blood!

  240. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    WANNA SMACK THE SMILE OFF HER FACE!!!

  241. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    Yah…. finally he slaps WOBO for the tweeting! Hilarious!

  242. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    Sit down Wurmi…you are a joke! The only one playing the Shell Game is YOU!

    So UNPROFESSIONAL!!!

  243. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 2:53 pm

    Nurmi using “the shell game” analogy to make his argument, but then says, “This isn’t second grade.”

    Ahem.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:02 pm

      LOL

  244. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 2:54 pm

    The defense can’t possibly sink any lower then you already have Wurmi!

    • Schaeffer
      04/15/2013 at 3:31 pm

      Wanna bet?

  245. 04/15/2013 at 2:55 pm

    ROFLMAO stooping to levels the defense won’t????? hell they are setting new lows no-one can get near that!!

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 2:56 pm

      He won his own game of limbo.

      • 04/15/2013 at 3:01 pm

        come now nienna seriously think abourt what you just said!

  246. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 2:55 pm

    Ok Judge… Motion denied… Move it along!

  247. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Wurmi is using panhandle “anecdotal “sayings about a “shell game” to the Judge. Leave it to the jury, oaf.
    He gives his “speech” this being tried “by the world” and the “fiction” of the shell game?

    HeyAlso people use “dr” for MEDICAL doctors. PhD s who were halfway smart were Professor if a title was needed. After Kissinger they all want to be called “doctor”

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:04 pm

      yes professor is far more appropriate

  248. 04/15/2013 at 2:57 pm

    yay judge strong terminology! good on her.

  249. Wendy
    04/15/2013 at 2:57 pm

    Absolutely right Mr. Nurmi. It is a court of law and you are making a mockery of it. Your defendant sits there and smirks and pushes the limits as far as she can and you try to make something out of nothing and get a mistrial. I cannot believe all the trivial things you bring up. Unlike Mr. Martineze I have seen the tweets. You need to reprimand your client. You are right this isn’t second grade but clearly you are the ones acting as if it is.

  250. Marilyn N
    04/15/2013 at 2:58 pm

    The “tweets” are only making JA look bad so let her keep doing it.

  251. JesusFreak
    04/15/2013 at 2:58 pm

    way to go, nurmi. u tell the judge how to do it. bet she will love that!!!!

  252. 04/15/2013 at 3:00 pm

    oh so ok for her to tweet every day is fine but he has a pic or two taken and its improper?

  253. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Lovethe Juanster referring to donoman!

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:03 pm

      hqjhahahahaha yeah! someone tipped off his office and said donoman lol!

  254. 04/15/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Juan would NEVER come in under prepared so you know what that was! 😀

  255. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 3:03 pm

    I missed most of the morning session but all of your comments have gotten my caught up. Thanks all.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:06 pm

      Trace ya missed squat – just Wurmi making an ass of himself as usual!!!!

  256. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 3:05 pm

    So the 1:15 closed hearing is about ALV – guess she’s gonna be there and I would love to be a fly on the wall 🙂

  257. NancyB
    04/15/2013 at 3:05 pm

    I am confused – will there be testimony after the sealed hearing with ALV at 1:30??

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:07 pm

      Should be cause the jury is coming in.

  258. 04/15/2013 at 3:06 pm

    hey all. Bubble checking in

  259. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 3:07 pm

    Hiya bubble 🙂

  260. 04/15/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Trace you are lucky it was hhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllll boring except or the pupil ninjas!

  261. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 3:10 pm

    WHereisSHe – are ya still here darlin’???????????????????????

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 3:15 pm

      Still here!

  262. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 3:14 pm

    As Juan told the court, the State is in a tough position with regard to investigating Arias’ tweets. You know they would love to bring it on, but they have to be cautious here.
    Jodi was loving that… until the judge made clear that she would consider a motion and argument on the issue.
    Now, the judge did not have to add that last part.
    She could have just ruled on the motion and let it be.
    She clearly wanted to send a message to Jodi.
    But Jodi, being Jodi,… we’ll have to wait and see.
    Her lawyers– though defending her Constitutional right to express herself in response to Juan’s request to have the judge Order Jodi to stop the tweeting via her pal– certainly do not want her to be engaging in the tweeting either.

    Does anyone have a link to ALL of the tweets? I have only seen a few so far. (I know she took shots at Juan’s height; her perception of his “anger mgmt issues”; the tweets about thanking god for 5 day weekends; the quoting of Joseph Conrad and the like, but I didn’t see any where she made reference to her own testimony. If someone has those, please share a link.)

    The judge cannot stop the tweeting entirely, but if Jodi is commenting on the testimony and/or evidence, the judge MIGHT be able to enter an Order.

    It appears as though the State Attorneys Office has opted to err on the side of caution on this one though.

    IMO, it only hurts Jodi to make the snide, sarcastic comments on twitter, so I say: let her continue to be her own ruin.

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:18 pm

      OK I can understand if they are going to have a closed session without the jury if they are talking about ALV approaching Sam but wouldn’t they go after her about lying about her credentials, etc. in open court if they were thinking of charging her with perjury???? Thanks 🙂

      • NancyB
        04/15/2013 at 3:24 pm

        Katie Cool stated on the radio show last night that she knows for a fact that that matter of ALV approaching Sam has been dealt with. So that’s not it.

      • NancyB
        04/15/2013 at 3:26 pm

        This judge nor Juan intend to charge her with perjury! Witnesses lie on the stand all the time and almost never are they charged with perjury. If they did, that would finally give Nurmi a valid reason to file a motion for mistrial – not going to happen.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 3:50 pm

        MMD-
        Yes. I don’t know where the notion of the veracity of her c.v. originated.
        If there was an issue –in addition to the “Key Note Speaker” issue that Juan brought up during her cross-exam– he certainly would have nailed her on it during his cross.

        No clue what this could be about. We’ll have to wait to see if something makes it onto the official record (or gets leaked somehow).

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:22 pm

      WIS thankyou for dumbing it down so even I can clearly understand it! I am thinking Juan would not come unprepared so this is a we are watching kind of thing?

      • 04/15/2013 at 3:24 pm

        that should be “we are watching”” kind of thing ipad.. hard for grammar and spelling ruthless keyboard!

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 4:01 pm

        Yeah, Syn.
        I think Juan knows exactly what she has been up to (though –as he represented to the judge– he may not have bothered to look at all of her dumbass tweets). SOMEONE in the state’s attorneys office will certainly have been on it, like white on rice.
        They have had a discussion about how to handle it, as Juan also told the judge.
        He knows what she said about him. He just couldn’t care less, on a personal level.
        The immature jabs of a self-absorbed little monster are nothing this prosecutor can’t handle.
        Unlike the childish insinuation in her tweet, Juan is very assured of his manhood!
        Gotta be thick-skinned to try murder cases. Exposes you to a heck of a lot worse than childish name-calling.

        I think he was letting Jodi know that he knows and that it’s sort of a no-skin-off-his-own-back kind of thing, but he was letting her know that he knows.
        And, of course, he was letting the judge know–and the judge took his cue and let Jodi know that the court is now aware, regardless of whether or not the court can do anything about it at the moment.

        Was a good time–and manner (sort of off-handedly) to bring it up.
        You gotta hand it to Juan: his timing is impeccable.

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:05 pm

        yes!!!! absolutely agreed on all you said. I see it clearly same way.

    • stephanie
      04/15/2013 at 3:25 pm

      https://twitter.com/Jodiannarias These are her redundant tweets.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 4:10 pm

        Thanks, stephanie.
        If that is the sum total of all of her tweets (*minus the height pokes at Juan), I don’t see anything about the content of any actual trial testimony (other than perhaps the one about Gus Searcy–though even that is very vague) which might prompt the judge to enter any kind of Order against her.
        What I do note is how good this woman is at shooting (*first Travis, sadly, and now: herself in the foot).
        What is more telling of how utterly lacking she is in the capacity for REMORSE???
        My god, but her tweets are all about her (imagined) fandom. It’s “unreal” to those of us who have a working conscience.

        Here she is– on trial for murdering the man she claimed/claims to “love”; a man who obviously suffered grievous bodily harm, not to mention sheer terror, at her own, bloody hands, and all she cares about is her stupid “artwork” and a website and the like???

        There is no rehabilitating a person who has no conscious (as Syn has explained in detail on other threads re: sociopaths).

      • NancyB
        04/15/2013 at 4:41 pm

        She also deleted the pic of her giving the bird in court and told Nancy Grace that it was for her.

  263. 04/15/2013 at 3:15 pm

    Watching HLN now. So, I;m understanding that BertnErnie wants an eyeball specialist, then demanded a mistrial because of the autograph…Pennies to the kettle!!!!! Ha ha, His desire for stardom…

  264. NancyB
    04/15/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Does anybody understand what Nurmi intends to prove if the judge allows this eye picture??

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:20 pm

      He says just a camera no knife – wellllllllllllllllll what a the gun???????? that she admits using??????????????????

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:30 pm

      yeah that she took the photo! I kid you not!

  265. Chrissie A
    04/15/2013 at 3:21 pm

    NewsFlash

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:32 pm

      LMAO!!!!!!!

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 3:35 pm

        It looks even more realistic thru my eyes and my equipment 😛

      • 04/15/2013 at 3:36 pm

        LOLOL!!!!!!!!!! stop it to freakin funny!!!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:36 pm

      Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 3:37 pm

      Help me! I’m LMAOROF and I can’t get up!

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 3:38 pm

      Hey! That’s my dog! Are they trying to claim my dog did it now? I’ll have to inquire now to see if he has an alibi for his whereabouts on the date/time in question. Wow.

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 3:43 pm

        They call him Dumper 😛

  266. NancyB
    04/15/2013 at 3:23 pm

    WIS – She has now deleted the 2 “little man syndrome” tweets directed at Juan. 😉

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 3:43 pm

      Trying to change her story, yet again;)
      It wasn’t Jodi… She wasn’t there.
      It wasn’t Jodi. it was the two Ninjas.
      Or.. ooops..
      OK. It WAS Jodi, but it was in “self-defense” and she doesn’t remember it, because she was so “traumatized” that her amygdala and her hippocampus “scrambled” her wanna-be-Einsteinian brain!
      Or…
      The dog did it.

      • 04/15/2013 at 3:48 pm

        LOL wis! That’s funny!!!!!!

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 4:09 pm

      Ah yes — the renowned Bow Wow defense 🙂

  267. sndlywhplsh
    04/15/2013 at 3:23 pm

    Um, friends, yes, defense is ridiculous, but in fact all Ph.Ds are entitled to the title “Doctor,” whereas “Professor” is specifically a job title. Far from all Ph.Ds are professors. Martinez is in fact being a bit snarky when he neglects to use Samuels’ title, not that Samuels doesn’t invite snarkiness.

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:34 pm

      nup sorry but title is about respect as well and i have no respect for that weasel.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 3:42 pm

        In court, I purposely one time referred to a dentist as “Mr”, I felt the chizelling and dishonesty was done by the “Mr” not the “Dr”. I also will use “doc” sometimes for podiatristrs and dentists and acupuncturists Ive used. I’m all for respect. But I like earned respect, not highjacked ones.
        I know LOTS of PhDs who wouldn’t THINK of referring to them –outside an academic conferenec

      • 04/15/2013 at 3:45 pm

        same I have a number of friends with PhD’s and most people don’t even know they have them let alone insisting on being called Dr

      • Anonymous
        04/15/2013 at 4:03 pm

        Just saying it’s the prerogative of the person with the degree. Some insist, (Dr. Samuels, Dr, Phil, Dr. Dyer), many do not. Bill Cosby uses “Dr.” even though his many doctorates are merely honorary. Still within his rights. One can of course always address people however one wishes.

      • commerce1
        04/15/2013 at 4:43 pm

        Exactly. I have an MBA and know people who sign their emails and other correspondence listing the MBA after their names. I would never dream of doing that, as it seems pretentious and condescending. Like your email or letter should automatically be considered with reverence because you have an MBA after your name. I would far rather have someone actually read what I have to say and respect it on his merits, rather than throwing my degree around as if it means something all on it’s own.

  268. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 3:25 pm

    For once, I think the Judge came across as having some backbone. She made it clear she is NOT going to declare a mistrial, and she is tired of hearing about it based on anything Juan has done. For her to say, “The court finds NO evidence the prosecutor engaged in anything even remotely unethical” is strong language for her. The prosecution continues to come across as unprofessional, petty, and just downright bratty.

    The defense is so obvious in their constant monitoring of social media. There are too many times they have quoted something nearly verbatim from this site, and I’m sure from others as well. If they had a legitimate complaint it would be different, but they come across as merely jealous because no one likes them, their client, their witnesses, or their strategy. Well, this isn’t junior high, Wurmi. The Judge is NOT going to order the public at large to be nice to you.

    The defense cannot continue to have it both ways. Today, whining about social media blew up in their face. I bet Wurmi wishes he’d never strayed onto that topic, because it came to light about WOBO’s twitter account. When Juan files a motion to put an end to WOBO’s tweeting, however she is getting it done, Wurmi will have no one to blame but himself. As Juan said, she is under subpoena, and subject to the same admonitions as any other witness. The court should cite her for contempt. Even if Juan doesn’t file a motion, I hope the Judge shuts WOBO down, since the jail seems to be unable to stop it.

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:38 pm

      Schaeffer, sorry but according to testimony.. the defense has it 3 ways

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 3:52 pm

        3 hole wonders! 😛

      • 04/15/2013 at 3:53 pm

        😀 zegactly!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/15/2013 at 3:52 pm

      Except that the Judge went along with the defense “suggestion” that the family of the victim sit in the fuckin jury box, right behind the killer of their brother. All so that the grassy knoll can be seen by this asshole who wants to be an “expert”
      I mean they soon changed it but what was the Judge thionking when she got conned into that one?

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:00 pm

        really .. didnt know that.. yeah what was she thinking! least they changed it

  269. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 3:35 pm

    HOLY S-
    There was a bombing at the end of the Boston Marathon=(
    Be back…

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:37 pm

      At the finish line no less!!!! WTH is going on in your country these days???????????

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 3:41 pm

        ****heavy sigh**** Wish I knew.

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 3:41 pm

      I’m about 40 mins south of Boston…

      Here’s a live stream… If interested…

      http://abcnews.go.com/live

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 3:43 pm

        Nurse on site said 2 casualities and about 100 injured. Good Lord help this world!

      • 04/15/2013 at 3:52 pm

        Het we are ok.. it’s you guys that need the help!!!! wth is going on that someone bombs a marathon ending????

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:50 pm

      omg that’s terrible!!! at a marathon?????? wtf!!!!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 3:53 pm

        26,000 people there today!

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 3:59 pm

        It’s looking really bad Syn – also some of the peeps were running to raise money for the Newton shooting, a few of the parents are there.

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:02 pm

        man I hate this stuff!!!! why totally innocent ppl!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 4:14 pm

        Correction.. 26,000 runners not including spectators. People from 96 countries here running.

  270. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 3:45 pm

    MMD – Sorry I missed you the other day. I was thinking of you though. As I was trying to type and get caught up my dogs kept “beaking” me with their noses to get me to pet them. My hands flying off the keyboard; took me forever. My backspace key is done worn out now! LOL!

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 3:48 pm

      LOL – very familiar with that action – makes it very hard to type 🙂

  271. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/15/2013 at 3:48 pm

    I know LOTS of PhDs who wouldn’t THINK of referring to themselves –outside an academic conferenece that used it, as “doctor.” VP Biden’s wife, imho, look sfoolish when she – of community college teaching fame – is referred to as “Doctor” on formal occasions. I’m like LaLa, I think if you graduate from medical school and are liocensed, you’re a “doctor.” Everybody else is something else–all good things; just not “doctor” in my book.

    ..

    • 04/15/2013 at 3:58 pm

      plus the number of times i think it was wilma… called him Mr and had to correct herself even she didn’t find it natural calling him doctor and he was her witness!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/15/2013 at 4:09 pm

        🙂

  272. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 4:00 pm

    Nienna :
    Nurse on site said 2 casualities and about 100 injured. Good Lord help this world!

    cnn reporting 6 injuries only??? and no casualties…

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 4:15 pm

      Boston Hospital confirmed 2 casualties. Nurse on site at marathon said up to 100 injured.

  273. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 4:01 pm

    Watching CNN coverage in Boston….this is horrible!!!! A coordinated act of terrorism???? Too early to tell….

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 4:05 pm

      Washington DC on a heightened state of alert

    • 04/15/2013 at 4:10 pm

      it’s gotta be domestic tho so why washington?

      • donchais
        04/15/2013 at 4:12 pm

        2 dead, 12 injured…appears another terrorist attack on US

  274. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 4:05 pm

    now saying 2 casualties and 22 injuries…crazy world we live it!

    • 04/15/2013 at 4:08 pm

      huh?? but injured are casualties

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 4:13 pm

        They are reporting its a small IED, probably a home made bomb, went off outside a building on the street, e.g. a backpack or suchlike.

      • Douglme
        04/15/2013 at 4:15 pm

        2 killed Syntara

  275. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 4:06 pm

    Chrissie A :
    They call him Dumper

    LMAO! Close though…Timber (I may have to consider a name change now) 😀

  276. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 4:08 pm

    NY Post says 12 dead

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 4:17 pm

      May be an unfortunate accident – reports that explosion(s) emanating from inside a building with a sporting goods store along the route.. and was the race over?

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 4:18 pm

        Some were still coming into the finish line.

      • Douglme
        04/15/2013 at 4:20 pm

        it appears the winner had crossed the finish line but thousands still coming in.

      • Jay
        04/15/2013 at 4:29 pm

        Report I just saw on CNN said winners crossed the finish line three hours previously — which means it could have been much worse earlier.

  277. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 4:10 pm

    Thankfully my cousin who was involved in the organization of this for 20 years usually stays in Hopkinton and hopefully his loon of a brother who still runs it, is ok!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 4:24 pm

      Boston police saying 28 injured and 2 dead.
      They won’t speculate as to whether this was terrorism.

      Awful, awful news=(

      Our malls, our movie theaters, over elementary schools and highschool and college campuses… our streets.
      When I grew up (born in the mid-60s), we ran and played outside all day; never had a fear of so much violence.

      I think about the children of the future; about our sons (both in their 20s) having kids in the future, and it scares me to imagine what kind of world they will know.

  278. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 4:12 pm

    CNN still saying 2 killed 28 injured

  279. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 4:13 pm

    Thank God the National Guard was already there and they have tons and tons of medics throughout the entire route plus ambulances

  280. Chrissie A
    04/15/2013 at 4:15 pm

    donchais :
    2 dead, 12 injured…appears another terrorist attack on US

    I’m betting it’s domestic, tax day?

  281. 04/15/2013 at 4:16 pm

    ABC Australian Broadcasting Commision.. latest tweet :

    I saw people’s legs blown off. Horrific. Two explosions. Runners were coming in and saw unspeakable horror.
    – Jackie Bruno @Jackie BrunoNECN

    • 04/15/2013 at 4:17 pm

      it has to be domestic its not something outside terrorists would target

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 4:18 pm

        It is. People from other countries here running.

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 4:22 pm

        Yep, plus today is tax deadline April 15th – The biggest threat to the US is domestic terrorism.

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:24 pm

        yeah its significant only to a domestic group… maybe anti-IRS then .. I hope they investigate it properly nd not cast wide ranging assumptions

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 4:26 pm

        I’m sure it will be investigated properly, however what the media fear mongers do with it will be another matter.

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:31 pm

        yeah. thats the issue

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:25 pm

        hope it’s some kind of freak accident. Not holding out hope on it… just wishing it

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 4:23 pm

        Def not saying it wasn’t domestic.

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 4:34 pm

        Could be more over that it is Patriots Day than tax day.

  282. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 4:17 pm

    Two bombs went off at finish line. Another one close by was detonated by police. Now evacuating 2 hotels becuase of strange packages.

  283. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 4:18 pm

    The blast was so strong it knocked some runners right off their feet!

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 4:20 pm

      Saw video it!

  284. 04/15/2013 at 4:20 pm

    Nienna :
    It is. People from other countries here running.

    nah it isn’t doesnt mean anything to us out here

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 4:24 pm

      Syn people run from all over the world!!!!!! There’s like 27,000 runners or something

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:30 pm

        yes I know but int aint gonna target it

    • Nienna
      04/15/2013 at 4:25 pm

      Again, not saying it wasn’t domestic just saying it was more than just americans.

  285. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 4:24 pm

    2 more explosive devises found according to the AP

  286. 04/15/2013 at 4:29 pm

    ABC Australian BC:

    6:21am: The Associated Press, citing an intelligence official, says two explosive devices have been found at the Boston Marathon.

    6:15am: US media is reporting a small home-made bomb was the cause of at least one of the explosions. No official confirmation yet.

    6:13am: Former Australian marathon champion Rob De Castella is in Boston and is trying to find a Darwin woman running in the event.

    Emma Cameron was competing in the marathon as part of the Indigenous Marathon Project.

    Mr De Castella believes Ms Cameron is OK because she was a long way from the finish line when the explosions happened.

    6:07am: Boston Police have confirmed two deaths.

  287. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 4:33 pm

    According to CNN definitely 2 bombs went off

  288. 04/15/2013 at 4:35 pm

    I don’t think we’re allowed to use the word terrorism anymore. Wouldn’t want to offend the perp don’t cha know! Ain’t being PC just grand?

    • 04/15/2013 at 4:38 pm

      terrorism is anything that terrorises you can’t hijack a word!

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:41 pm

        Tell that to the wizards of smart in the federal government.

  289. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 4:38 pm

    ER Doc from Mass Gen says performed multiple amputations.

    • 04/15/2013 at 4:39 pm

      sad marathon and lots reports on Aussie sites of ppl with legs blown off! Horrific!!!!!!!

      • Nienna
        04/15/2013 at 4:41 pm

        Said wounds resemble that of a war zone.

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:42 pm

        They’re getting ready to do a press conference. Hope they can tell us something.

      • commerce1
        04/15/2013 at 4:51 pm

        It’s unbelievable that there are people out there who take such evil pleasure in harming other people.

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:53 pm

        truly… it is!!

  290. Nienna
    04/15/2013 at 4:42 pm

    They are asking everyone there for any and all pictures so that they can review pictures for people expecting the blast or what not.

  291. 04/15/2013 at 4:42 pm

    6:34am: AEST BREAKING: Reuters is reporting another explosion at Boston’s JFK Library, south of the CBD.

    Boston police confirms another explosion at JFK Library
    – @ReutersUS
    6:32am: Australian Jeff Hunt, who finished in the top 15 along with Lee Troop, has spoken to ABC News Breakfast.

    “I was in my hotel room when I [heard] what turned out to be an explosion which actually went off about quarter to 3, I think. I came through, we got ushered out. All the elite athletes were in the hotel when all this went off, and basically ended up having a Twitter explosion and seeing things going down and finding out that a couple of bombs have gone off and we’re in lockdown.

    “We’re staying about 200, 300m from the finish line and the bombs went off about 200, 300m off the finish line, so just as the bulk of the 20,000 were coming through.

    “[I] had finished, [was] going through the recovery, had come upstairs, had a shower and I heard it go off. I didn’t think much thought of it. I thought that something big had dropped or fallen over or something like that. I’ve never heard an explosion at all in my life.

    “New York I naturally – I thought it was something else. I mean, I wouldn’t think that anyone wouldn’t think that anyone would want to do something like that. I mean, I’m an optimist, and it was such a great day, everything was perfect and the whole city was in good spirits, everything was going really, really well, so that thought never ever entered my mind.”

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 4:46 pm

      There was an earlier report that JFK Library was a mechanical fire and not connected

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:49 pm

        ya this is latest tweet

        6:37am: It’s unclear what’s happening at the JFK Library: the Library itself has tweeted this:

        Fire in building is out, appears to have started in the mechanical room of new building. All staff and visitors are accounted for and safe.
        – @JFKLibrary
        Investigators are investigating. Any tie to Boston Marathon explosions is pure speculation. More information as we receive it.
        – @JFKLibrary

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 4:54 pm

        Boston police have just confirmed that there was an explosion at JFK library about 30 mins ago

      • 04/15/2013 at 4:57 pm

        yeah a bit too coincidental thought it must be connected

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 4:59 pm

        Could be there was a fire before the explosion

  292. Chrissie A
    04/15/2013 at 4:50 pm

    Boston Police News Conference:

    http://www.livenewschat.tv/politics/

  293. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 4:56 pm

    wondering if the judge will not have court this p.m given the boston tragedy??

    • 04/15/2013 at 4:58 pm

      seriously?

      • Moon
        04/15/2013 at 5:06 pm

        well uhm… was supposed to start 35 min ago. not sure to attribute that to the norm of this trial or what??

      • 04/15/2013 at 5:07 pm

        about the pupil ninjas?

  294. 04/15/2013 at 5:00 pm

    Wow, a Saudi National is the suspect…color me surprised. I’m sure our diligent media will dutifully ignore this man’s religious affiliations.

    I’m sure he’s just misunderstood. We Americans must have pushed him to committ this type of act. I’m sure DHS is formulating a similar response as we speak.

  295. TexiBelle
    04/15/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Dunno why HLN keeps saying it happened 2 hours into the race–in the bomb footage you can clearly see the marathon timer says 4 hrs and 9 minutes. The winners would have come in around 2hrs and 10 min to 2 hrs and 30 min, but at 4 hrs 10 min there would still be plenty of runners crossing the finish line. As you can see on the video. This is just terrible. Makes me glad I’m a bit of a recluse.

  296. donchais
    04/15/2013 at 5:11 pm
  297. 04/15/2013 at 5:12 pm

    Where’s the flippin Trial!

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