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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Forty-Eight


Well, Friday was interesting to say the least.  The Judge ended by telling ALV she had to return Tuesday unless released from subpoena before.  She also said there was a matter that needed to be taken care of and seemed she indicated ALV knew what it was.  Grace Wong should be up at 11am.  Other than that we really don’t know what will be streamed live.

Court begins at 9:41.

Screen shot 2013-04-15 at 12.41.52 PMNurmi asks to approach…grrrr

Bryan Neumeister is here setting up a presentation…oh crap.

Matter of Ms. Wong will be taken up first.

Grace on the stand.

Nurmi, by whom are you employed?  Turner Broadcasting.

Nurmi asks to approach.

She is familiar with the jurors that she can see from where she sits in the back of the court.

She reviewed exhibit #2 which is a CNN video of Martinez being seen as a celebrity.  Wong was present the day Juan was signing autographs.

She did not see any juror present at the incident.

Juan has no questions.

We now move to the “Duabert’ hearing. (http://www.helium.com/items/1807122-daubert-hearing-on-expert-and-scientific-evidence)

Mr. Neumiester, camera expert, is up describing work he did on a photo of Travis in the shower.

WTF?  If this is a problem, why wasn’t it brought up at trial???

Both Tanisha and Sam are crying…the blown up picture of Travis is so sad.

Neumeister normally doesn’t testify…enhances photos and then turns them back to the defense or prosecutor to use, as they will.

Truthfully folks, no clue as to where Nurmi is going with this!

We appear to be going for reflections…Travis’ eyes?

There is a reflection he found in Travis’ cornea!

Lots of technical talk going on about cameras.

Now a photo of Travis’ pupil is up.

You could say we see a reflection of Jodi holding a camera and shooting a shot, however, the lines of the person’s body were drawn by him!

OK, here they are

Travis in shower

Travis in shower

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Travis pupil

Jodi taking photo

Jodi taking photo

Now the expert says the picture isn’t good for evidence.

Juan up…

In terms of testifying in court, when was the last time you believe you testified in court?  It would be on this case.

What did you testify about?  Enhanced the audio.

And that testimony was for you to be certified to testify?  No.


When was the last time you testified about an audio case?  I don’t testify that often.

What was the case?  I would have to look at my notes?

What was the name of the judge?  I would have to look at my notes.

Seriously, this has been a total waste of time!

Well, what if I told you I didn’t see the same lines you drew?  You didn’t’ have the equipment I had.

The jury doesn’t have the equipment either?  That would be up to the jury!

Juan is done.

Nurmi is up dragging this crap out even longer.

Total BS and waste of time. Proved and disproved nothing!

Ok, that’s over!

Juan argues this shouldn’t be shown to the jury because it’s fantastical; it can’t be tested and can’t be verified.  It hasn’t been peer reviewed.

OMG…Nurmi wants to bring the jury to Neumeister’s lab to view it and allow Jodi to introduce the best evidence for defense.  Claims this is scientific process and acceptable.

This all comes down to in the photo Jodi ‘may’ have been holding a camera, no knife, no gun…so it supports Jodi’s testimony.

Now Nurmi wants to say Martinez intimidated witnesses and it goes to prosecutorial misconduct, namely Samuels and ALV.

Nurmi says Juan threw evidence and his pen.

Now Nurmi is back to Martinez signing autographs as unprofessional.

Nurmi says this behavior by Juan has been going on since the beginning.

Martinez says this is a waste of the courts time, the prosecutor’s time…the defense is grandstanding.

Judge rules tough nuggies, Mr. Nurmi, no mistrial!!!!

Way to go Judge Stephens!

Nurmi now back to ALV and Juan attacked her.

Nurmi, with Neumeister help, is playing audio from Juan and Samuels interview.

If ya luv me…kill me!

 Nurmi tells the court the audio was proof that the prosecutor was trying to bully Dr. Samuels into presenting his evidence the way the state wanted Samuels to present it.

The prosecutor engages in intimidating and bullying witnesses.

Martinez says BS!!!!

Juan says Jodi is tweeting through a friend and as a witness is violating the court admonition!

Judge Stephens says the court has no evidence the jury was affected by any events and the prosecutor was not in violation.

12:02…lunch called…

OK, things have been so convoluted and all over the place today.  What I do feel is this is last ditch, desperate effort by the defense to delay rebuttal!  Jodi, Nurmi and Willmott are pretty much out of options and it shows big time!

OMG…two explosions just happened at the Boston Marathon finish line!  God help us!  2 Dead, 23 severely injured…

To me, sleeper cell..mini 9/11.

  1. WhereIsSHE
    04/15/2013 at 4:55 pm

    Awesome recap, as always, Donchais!

    This is what we call “junk science”.
    The defense hasn’t even laid a proper foundation for the admission of this witch-doctory,IMO.

    Also- the Daubert case analysis is TYPICALLY used in a motion in limine to PRECLUDE (or exclude) unscientific evidence.As in, the defense should have had their ducks in order BEFORE trial and provided the state with the proferred evidence so that the state could have an opportunity to investigate the alleged science behind it and then file the appropriate motion to exclude it, hence leading to the court holding a “Daubert” hearing to determine whether or not it would admit it at trial.
    Are you kidding me that the defense didn’t bother to have this done BEFORE trial??

    I don’t know how anyone can look at that enhanced image and determine whether or not Jodi had a CONCEALED WEAPON on her person –OR WITHIN REACH.

    Give me a major break.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 5:01 pm

      She could have had her trusty knife in the back of her striped sweatpants, no?
      Pulled it out just after she took that photo, no?
      Dropped the camera (or placed it down) just before the attack.
      Stabbed him in the heart and then, in rapid succession, in his back as he turned to protect himself, no???

    • 04/15/2013 at 5:23 pm

      It also doesn’t look like the posture is as Nurmi and Neumeister suggest. It looks like she’s sort of flapping her arms up with bent elbows.

      • Jane
        04/15/2013 at 5:33 pm

        I thought she said she was stooping down on her knees, anyway. Really you can see what you want, but I still think she is holding something in the other hand so I don’t know how that benefits her.

      • stephanie
        04/15/2013 at 6:02 pm

        I agree I think she looks like she is doing some sort of chicken dance.

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 5:27 pm

      Not junk science, and you should hope the judge lets it in because it MAKES the prosecution’s case and further undermines the defense.

      For these reasons:

      The witness testified the photo was taken straight on.
      On his first camera holding demonstration the witness held it on his chest.
      Travis was 5’9. Arias three inches shorter. She couldn’t have taken a straight on horizontal shot into his eye if he was standing. Which means he was sitting which means he couldn’t have charged her like she claims.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 8:23 pm


        I get your point, but –at the risk of being subjected to name-calling, etc– I would like to respond from the perspective of the State.

        The last thing any prosecutor wants is for defense junk science to come into evidence in ANY case, because that sets a precedent for the same JUNK science to come into any and all cases thereafter.

        Just imagine what could be done with this kind of “ersatz” evidence in future cases.

        It is considered “junk” because it is not commonly accepted among professionals in the field as a result of scientific research/studies/peer-review in the field of expertise.(The fact that you can quite readily interpret it in an entirely different manner speaks a great deal about whether or not the jury needs an “expert” to interpret it FOR them.)

        This guy is not an expert in reading what can be seen in the reflection of an iris in a photo. From what I understand, he has the technical skill to enlarge that portion of the photo.

        He is interpreting what he sees in a fashion favorable to the defense.
        The point being– what HE sees is not EXPERT.
        He has eyes, just like you and me; just the the jurors.

        I think Juan/the State’s Attorneys Office made a strategic decision to simply stipulate to the admission of the photo.

        So what if no knife or gun can’t been seen–in the vague reflection of Travis’ eye- in the last photo she took of him while he was still alive??

        We know she killed him, and we know she used both a knife and a .25 caliber gun to accomplish her goal.

        All that this guy can ultimately say is that he doesn’t see a gun or a knife in the reflection of Travis’ eye.

        Uhhh… OK.
        That doesn’t prove ANYTHING.

        Jodi murdered Travis with a knife and gun, no matter what this guy sees in the last known reflection of Travis’ eyesight.

        How pathetic that they would try to create a SCIENTIFIC BASIS for what he sees or doesn’t see.

        I wouldn’t hesitate to admit that he doesn’t see it, because then it isn’t coming in as EXPERT OPINION.
        It is just… OK… none of US (non-experts) clearly see a knife or a gun in this REFLECTION of TRAVIS’ IRIS.

        How effective is THAT for the defense??
        Not very.

        Juan can take care of this nonsense in his closing argument, no problem.

    • Pamela
      04/15/2013 at 6:13 pm

      Is it possible Jodi used a camera strap when taking the shower pictures of Travis? She’s wearing one in the mountain photo of her that’s all over the television and web (hope you can see it, link attached). A strap would have freed her hands to access weapons hidden in her clothes or wherever. Might explain camera bumping around taking photos if she was wearing it while using weapons. It’s a stretch, but she’s a photographer and this is clearly a premeditated case. Maybe she took it with her when she left, same as the gun, etc.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 8:28 pm

        Yes, Pamela.
        So many things are possible (insofar as how she planned and executed her ambush of Travis while he was so vulnerable, naked in the shower.)

        The fact that he was in such a vulnerable “position” (logistically, in the shower; due to his nakedness; due to being either too trusting of Jodi –or of being under her control via a loaded gun pointed at him–)we will never know the truth, because the only person who is alive and who was also there will never be trustworthy enough to be relied upon to tell the real truth.

    • Anonymous
      04/15/2013 at 7:36 pm

      I think what this shows is she had Travis sitting in shower for this picture based on witness testimony the camera had to be chest lvl to take the picture. Since Travis is taller he could not of been standing.
      It further leads to the therory that she stabbed first not the gun shot. I belive based on this she had him sit down, she did drop camera to grab the knife which I am sure was there on the floor where she put it during the photo shoot and stabbed him. He then came out of shower and tried to fight to save his life …………

    • endriescarol
      04/15/2013 at 7:54 pm

      I see a duck in his pupil. What do you see? It is like the game that kids play when looking up at the clouds and say what they see. I see a dinasoar and the other says no I think I see a gorilla. Really, is this for real? Game over defense.

  2. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 4:55 pm

    Donchais – are we supposed to move over here now darlin’???????

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 4:56 pm

      never mind…………………………………………………..

  3. Nancy Pennington
    04/15/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Sounds like Wurmi has been reading the blogs because I don’t remember any mention of JA holding a weapon ,Only the camera, OTHER than on the blogs. As mentioned upstairs, the reflection in his eyes don’t show if she had a knife or gun in her back waistband or taped to her leg. Can you say desperate !!!

  4. donchais
    04/15/2013 at 5:08 pm

    Sorry, I got lost..terrorism always freaks me. Me and my husband both worked on Wall street, husband in WTF2…so this hurts big time….

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 5:14 pm

      OMG I’m so sorry donchais. Did you lose your husband on 9/11?

    • 04/15/2013 at 5:14 pm

      so no more trial today?

    • MMD
      04/15/2013 at 5:14 pm

      sending majory {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}} and love

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 5:23 pm

      So sorry, Donchais.

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 5:35 pm

      So sorry Donchais ~sending virtual hugs~ ❤

    • Laine
      04/15/2013 at 5:37 pm

      Words never feel enough, just know you have our hearts and love donchais.

    • 04/15/2013 at 5:54 pm

      One big hug for a special lady!!!! O

    • Crystal Harris
      04/15/2013 at 8:47 pm

      So sorry Donchais! My sister was at WTC on 9/11, too. She worked in Building 7, which was also destroyed that day. I thought my sister died that morning. I still can’t get over the 3000 Americans who did lose their lives that day on our own soil.

  5. Nancy Pennington
    04/15/2013 at 5:14 pm

    And to continue ranting … JM intimidating laToilet …my hiney! According to the talking asses (heads) on HLN she was holding her own with JM. Personally, I think he kicked her butt but that is IMHO (and just about everyone else on this site)!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. 04/15/2013 at 5:21 pm

    omg just saw clip of first explosion poor runners and one gets hit by something and still tres to run but collapses.. obviously in shock. Freaky cos peeps to his side nearer the explosion were not hurt must have been freak piece of debris! sooooooooooooo sad

  7. 04/15/2013 at 5:28 pm

    K well Im figuring no more trial. So my heart and prayers to all the innocent people in Boston, hoping for a real investigation and not hasty naming of convenient perpetrators. I hate the pics of the poor runners. Why are there people like this amoung us. The ignorance needs to end.

    • Elexa
      04/15/2013 at 5:30 pm

      I don’t think that’s necessarily true. It’s only 2:25 in Arizona so they could still be back.

  8. Chrissie A
    04/15/2013 at 5:32 pm

    Still waiting outside. Nurmi just poked his head out and asked Bryan to come inside

    • Douglme
      04/15/2013 at 5:39 pm

      Thought the judge had already made a decision on the picture expert? Wurmi is just trying to use up any time JM might have to start his rebuttal. Jerk!

      • HJ Madison
        04/15/2013 at 5:41 pm

        I think the Judge said she would rule on the picture after looking something up in chambers, when they gathered for ALV issue.

      • 04/15/2013 at 5:58 pm

        Douglme~~agreed, the time is going come. He might as well just buck up, get over it and get this trial on down the road.

  9. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 5:32 pm

    Twitter – Wildabout trial said 5minutes ago or so that they were still innchambers. Nurmi had poked his head out and asked the picture expert to come into chambers.

  10. 04/15/2013 at 5:36 pm

    Just tuned in to HLNtv in time to hear Juan and then Wormi each give their spiel on the mistrial motion. I absolutely DESPISE Wormi and WillNOT!, talk about cheap shots at the state. Wormi is pissed because he tried so desperately to get off the hook as Jodi’s lawyer so this is his revenge on Juan I guess!!! Even going so far as to say Juan dissed samuels because he didn’t address him as DOCTOR!!!! IMO Samuels is lucky he got called ,”Mr.”
    anything respectful considering we all know he’s hot for Jodi! Ok there’s my rant for the afternoon. Oh I guess we all have heard about the people like US that are trying this case outside of the courtroom!!! I wish that were true! Jodi would be on death row already!!!!

  11. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 5:41 pm

    I will be surprised if the Judge calls it a day without any testimony considering this trial has gone on so long now and she wants to get on with it too!

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 5:44 pm

      You would think … especially since she told the jury to come in at 1:30 Arizona time and she was aware of all the issues to be discussed.

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 5:52 pm

        Now we (somewhat) know how the jury feels

  12. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 5:44 pm

    HJ Madison :
    I think the Judge said she would rule on the picture after looking something up in chambers, when they gathered for ALV issue.

    Oh thanks HJ, I do remember that now that you mention it! Getting old…lol

  13. 04/15/2013 at 5:46 pm

    During lunch today we saw the coverage from Boston!!! What the Hell is happening in our world today? Why would anyone want to do something so awful on a day of celebration in Boston? The Marathon is a huge event and so much FUN!!! What the F is going on???
    Some sick SOB!!! Or B’s!

  14. JesusFreak
    04/15/2013 at 5:51 pm

    We live in a very crazy time. It will just get worse, I hate to say. I hope they catch and convict the perps! Poor people and their families! Some crazies think ‘it’s my way or the highway’.

    • Douglme
      04/15/2013 at 5:53 pm

      You mean like “Jodi Arias”?

  15. donchais
    04/15/2013 at 5:51 pm

    OK, I’m shutting down for today to recover…you guys play nice…be back tomorrow..luv y’all!

    • Douglme
      04/15/2013 at 5:53 pm

      Good night Donchais, have a good break!

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 5:53 pm

      Be good to yourself Donchais ~ Thanks for all you do~ Luvnhugz xox

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:38 pm

      Good night Donchais – thanks for all you do – there are no words to express all your hard work.. Big virtual hugs and thank yous from Canada.

    • Shirley Pare
      04/16/2013 at 4:17 am

      hugs from Vancouver, BC, Canada, Donchais, you are number 1, take care

  16. 04/15/2013 at 6:06 pm

    Wormi is trying to have a “pity party” and no one wants to go!!!

  17. JesusFreak
    04/15/2013 at 6:09 pm

    Douglme :
    You mean like “Jodi Arias”?

    yeah, just like ja!

  18. MMD
    04/15/2013 at 6:14 pm

    court is back in session

  19. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 6:14 pm

    Nobody … (well except WOBO) wants this trial verdict to be overturned for any reason. I think the Judge is just going to excruciating lengths to protect “the record” and ensure that this wicked woman gets a fair trial. WE ARE BACK!

  20. JesusFreak
    04/15/2013 at 6:15 pm

    excusing the jury

  21. commerce1
    04/15/2013 at 6:15 pm

    Court is back in session……

  22. Douglme
    04/15/2013 at 6:16 pm

    no court today – 9:30 a.m tomorrow

  23. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 6:16 pm


  24. Kathy A.
    04/15/2013 at 6:16 pm

    That’s it? Aaaaugh!!!

  25. Schaeffer
    04/15/2013 at 6:19 pm

    Are you kidding me? A 60 second court day? Are they trying for some kind of record? If I were on the jury, I would be mad beyond belief.

  26. Jay
    04/15/2013 at 6:28 pm

    What was the stipulation about?

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 6:31 pm

      Martiniz didn’t object to the stipulation: to whit – arias. Wasn’t holding a knife or gun at the time of the photo!

      • Jay
        04/15/2013 at 6:32 pm

        Meaning he agreed no knife or gun in reflection in Travis’ eye…

  27. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 6:35 pm

    I don’t think that’s some huge win. So she put down the camera and grabbed the knife…I can’t imagine this will sway the jury or completely reinforce her story.

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 6:40 pm

      Does the stipulation mean the guy doesn’t testify, but the judge reads the stipulation to the jury in lieu of testimony?

      • HJ Madison
        04/15/2013 at 6:41 pm


    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 7:18 pm

      True, Gracerv7 it doesn’t reinforce her story, like Nurmi said it did. It just shows that at that particular few seconds she wasn’t holding a knife. That’s not crucial at all in Juan’s theory or even in the defense’s theory. Why Nurmi seems to think it is is beyond me.

  28. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 6:41 pm

    The next pic taken is 70 sec later and the attack hadn’t happened yet….plenty of time to reach down and grab whatever weapon she chose first.

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 6:44 pm

      Good point Grace and what a waste of a day!

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 6:49 pm

      Exactly, and I guess Juan will just have to be more specific (or just as specific) as he was going to be anyway. Does this at least mean no more Defense witnesses?

  29. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 6:42 pm

    If I understand correctly the judge showed the jury the pic and let them know both sides agreed no gun or knife was being held up in that pic. Sorry if I misinterpreted what I heard.

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 6:44 pm

      No knife or gun was being held by JA when the photo was taken.

    • Chrissie A
      04/15/2013 at 6:45 pm

      I saw and heard the same 🙂

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 6:49 pm

      Do you remember what picture was taken 70 seconds later?

      • NancyB
        04/15/2013 at 7:29 pm

        I think the one of Travis sitting

  30. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 6:42 pm

    I think JM just let them have it because it is meaningless ….. and he may see the jury is getting antsy and he wants to get on with his rebuttal.

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 6:47 pm

      I understand your pov HJ too, the whole thing would be a huge distraction and annoying to boot, but I don’t like the fact that it was stipulated to.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 8:33 pm

        Nah… don’t even think twice about it.
        Juan knows it is no big deal for his case.
        Trust him. He knows what he’s doing.

  31. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 6:45 pm

    That’s how I feel too.

  32. Lisa M
    04/15/2013 at 6:46 pm

    I don’t like that stipulation. I understand why Juan wouldn’t want the jury to have to traipse over to the crime lab or wherever it was Wurmi wanted them to go, but having it stipulated that she was standing there with both hands on a camera at that moment feels like a defense win even if it isn’t. Maybe it doesn’t hurt the prosecutor’s case, but the judge saying “it is stipulated that…” makes it sound more important than it is. I’d rather have the jury look at the photo and decide on their own if there’s even anything there. It just seems like a win for the defense right now, and of course JA was smiling after the ruling.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/15/2013 at 8:37 pm

      And this is just more proof that Jodi is not of Einstein-ian IQ.
      Rest easy in your own home, comfy bed;) Let Jodi pretend to herself that she got something valuable out of this nonsense while she lays her head down on a ..hmmm.. let’s call it a “less than comfy” cot in her JAIL CELL.

      Journal away with your teensy-tiny-iddy-widdy pencil, Inmate Arias.
      All of us (even despite our internal conflicts, from time to time) are going to rest our heads out here in the free world.


    • Crystal Harris
      04/15/2013 at 9:11 pm

      Stipulations are done in trials all the time. I’ve seen other stipulations alluded to even in this trial. The jury, especially this astute jury, will not see this as some major bug deal.

  33. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 6:48 pm

    Was the shower door closed when that photo was taken?

    • Houndrancher
      04/16/2013 at 11:10 am

      It appears to me the shower door was closed on the photo in question of Travis looking into camera lens. Look how the water is trickling down the door on the left of photo.
      Also, how about Squirmi Nurmi’s tie, from a distance it looked like a big ruffle going down his belly!

    • 04/16/2013 at 11:16 am

      I think so. It looks like the trail of water on the left side of his face is running down the shower door.

  34. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 6:49 pm

    I do hope JM brings that point up though…that another pic was taken over a min later and we don’t know what she was holding! I always thought she shot him while he was sitting it fits with trajectory. I feel first shot or stab happened when he was sitting…so a vulnerable position.

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 6:52 pm

      As I stated above the enhancement photo and testimony indicates Travis was sitting when it was taken.

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 6:55 pm

      Why is Jean Casarez saying this is a defense win? I swear, she glows when she thinks the defense has won something.

      • Ginger
        04/15/2013 at 7:19 pm

        Yes she does glow it’s really irritating.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/15/2013 at 8:39 pm

        I go back and forth from believing she is purposely directed by producers to provide a biased opinion.. to wondering if she really is THAT out-of-touch with reality.

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 6:55 pm

      Oh he will ….In my gruesome opinion: I think JA tells TA how great he looks, sets the camera down, picks up the knife, opens the shower door and stabs him in the chest. He is shocked ….. makes his way to the sink coughing blood and kicks the camera. Then she is on him …… he tries to get to the end of the hall … she sits on his back, lifts his head by the hair, slits his throat. Then, she drags him back into the shower. And his remains were probably still making noise …. so she shot him for good measure.

  35. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 6:53 pm

    I don’t know if shower door is open in pic with him looking at the camera but you can see it open in the sitting pic.

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 8:39 pm

      To tell the truth I’m confused over the photos.

      I just went on line to a site that says it’s presenting all the shower photos, and lists the time between each. From what’s listed there the eye-enhancement photo seems to be the one where he’s sitting.
      That’s listed at 5:29:20. Two photos follow that one:
      5:30:30 – of his flexed right arm, halfway thru pectoral to forearm.
      5:31:14 – a dark exposure of the back of his right arm and part of his side.
      The next photo is at 5:32:16 – the one I think is his body after the murder (I’m assuming that’s the 62 second time frame everyone mentions).
      Then there’s one more photo at 5:33:32 – showing what I think is the shower baseboard.

      Is there another ‘sitting’ photo I missed? If so, any idea of it’s timeline?
      Altogether the time span for all the shower photos is about 11 minutes, according to the site. Don’t know if they’re accurate or not.

      If the time sequence above is accurate, that gives Arias close to two minutes from the eye enhancement photo to the final one in the shower before the struggle… lots of time for her to get a weapon and attack him.

      I have more thoughts on this, but my dog is giving me ‘the look’ and I have to trudge the neighborhood for his evening meander… Sorry if the above is too prolix…

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:07 pm

        Well maybe the whole purpose is to stall and create confusion. I’ve been in a conference all day and I’m trying to get caught up. That being said, I think the confusion you,re expressing Jay is what the defense is hoping the jury experience .

  36. ritanita
    04/15/2013 at 6:55 pm

    I doubt the judge would have ruled in the defense’s favor. To make such a ruling would set a precedent which could be used in other cases. There was no scientific back-up for this information, no peer review, etc. And, it was like looking at clouds.

    Essentially, IMHO, Juan gave Nurmi a little, meaningless trinket to be nice to the guy, who’s had a totally loser day.

    Fact is, the crime itself took just under 2 minutes. The gap between the face shot and the first inadvertent shot came 1 minute later, long enough to remove one hand, if not both, from the camera and grab whichever weapon she used first. BIG, FAT, HAIRY, DEAL.

    Imagine you were on the jury, waiting around for a long time, to hear that teensy stipulation and be told to go home and come back tomorrow at 9:30. Nobody raised their had to hear it again, it just didn’t really matter in the scheme of things.

    • Lisa M
      04/15/2013 at 6:59 pm

      But Idk Rita, I just don’t think Juan did it to be nice to Wurmi. If so, he’s a better person than I’ll ever be!

      • ritanita
        04/15/2013 at 7:02 pm

        Oops! Left out the phrase, “sarcasm intended” to that part. I count today as Pros. 3 Def. 0.

  37. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 6:56 pm

    If that’s the case jay she was crouching when enhanced pic was taken then got up because angle of the pic where she just gets lower half looks like its taken from above. Geez I’m all over the place here!!

  38. Lisa M
    04/15/2013 at 6:58 pm

    Okay, Ritanita, if you say so, I believe you. I think you’re right that in the scheme of things it doesn’t matter but I just don’t like to see that (bleep) smile about anything!

  39. 04/15/2013 at 7:00 pm

    Good grief! HLN are the biggest bunch of Drama Queens I’ve ever seen (well, almost) regarding Juan stipulating to letting that Travis eye photo stay in. Like many here, i don’t see this being a big deal…at all. HLN are calling this a “Bombshell!” Pahlease!

    I love how some of HLN’s talking head, attorney, commentators sit in the studio and lecture Juan on what he should and shouldn’t be doing. Again, pahlease! I’ll bet half of these “Attorneys” haven’t been in a courtroom in years.

    To the HLN Attorney/Talking Heads: I THINK JUAN KNOWS WHAT HE’S DOING. Now shadup!

    • ritanita
      04/15/2013 at 7:04 pm

      That, and the judge didn’t make any ruling on the Daubert motion! They’re calling it a “ruling” and it’s so wrong!

      • 04/15/2013 at 7:07 pm

        Good point!

    • Crystal Harris
      04/15/2013 at 9:26 pm

      Let’s not forget their business is to attract and retain viewers, first and foremost (which also explains Jean Casarez’ behavior). HLN’s business is not altruistically providing unbiased legal trial coverage. RATINGS!!

  40. Lisa M
    04/15/2013 at 7:15 pm

    Okay, I’ll try not to listen to HLN. They are super dramatic about everything. It was heartbreaking to see the sisters crying in court again. How much more can this poor family take??!

  41. 04/15/2013 at 7:36 pm

    I see Jodi dressed like michael jackson, with tophat in the photo. Who’s bad?

    • kristin
      04/15/2013 at 8:27 pm

      High five me w a sparkle glove on will ya!

  42. Laine
    04/15/2013 at 7:37 pm

    Fear not friends….I have sent a large hay bale to HLN and Derrrfence so they don’t run out of straws to grasp…..Have faith in Juan do you honestly think he would have conceeded that point if it was important…Remember Juan has NEVER said at any point that she WAS holding a weapon when that pic was taken…How can you lose a point you never made….I trust him. I’m more concerned with the fact that the derrrfence wasted another day of court and Nurmi earn’t 2K for today! I’m glad I’m not a tax payer in AZ!!!

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 6:59 am

      I trust him as well Laine. As for the hay – brilliant!!!!!! 🙂

  43. Gracerv7
    04/15/2013 at 7:42 pm

    Thank you Laine I feel better. When hln gets in a tizzy I start to let it get to me.

    • Laine
      04/15/2013 at 7:50 pm

      Step away from HLN….remember the media are looking for sensation only…makes no difference to them who wins either way it’s news. They will bend any story to what suits them at the time. Let the JA followers think they have a victory…in reality they lost again today 2 dismisals of mistrial they have nothing and they know it. The judge is being very astute in her rulings to insure this verdict is not overturned in appeal. Derrrfense is doing everyone a favour by bringing this shit in now so it can’t be brought again in appeal…it’s all good!! 🙂

  44. 04/15/2013 at 7:47 pm

    Sequester the jury…please, now. Yeah, Juan doesn’t have to prove How she did it. What more could the prosecution need. I’d say the Reprehense is clutching at Travis’ eyeballs. Like Jodi thinks she’s going to walk away from jail, set free by an image in the iris of Travis’ eyeball…hmmm. But I’m worried about the level of desperation and hijinks on the part of the defense…There’s still too much time for a mistrial…This, and another thing, will be the time of Jodi’s life…she loves it. Tricking the world…

  45. Ci Ci's Corner
    04/15/2013 at 7:47 pm

    Good Grief!! Is there no end to this nonsense!! The Jackass testified on the stand that she was kneeling when she took the picture of him sitting and that TA stood up when she dropped the camera. How the hell can they now say she was standing and this goes to prove her testimony and that it happened the way she said it did??? She said she was kneeling!!! This picture makes her a liar again!!!!……What testimony was the DT listening to???? Also when you look at TA he’s looking straight into the camera not up. If she was standing his head would be tilted up looking at him!! Also…..looking at that enhanced picture (without the lines!) you can see white haze throughout his pupil, top bottom and sides. You can imagine anything! We don’t think the DT should be celebrating just yet! Something’s up with JM and we think this is going to blow up in the DT’s face. You’ll remember in the beginning JM argued not to have Lisa Andrews on the stand and not to have the sex tape played but the DT got suspicious that he was trying to cover something up. When Lisa testified it went bad for the defense once JM cross examined her, then when the sex tape was played it showed the Jackass a very willing participant as well as the Lead in the whole conversation. Nooooo……we can’t help but think that JM agreed to this stipulation too quickly…..there’s a reason for all of this!!
    Wait and see!!!

    We trust JM…..he has a plan!!

    • Laine
      04/15/2013 at 7:53 pm

      Yep! got it in one ladies!! He is sooo smart give them enough rope and they will hang themselves 🙂

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:36 pm

      I could be wrong… but I thought the white line drawing dud said the picture was taken at waist height… but yeah his drawing has her standing…. so now she’s standing taking a picture at waist height??? man Im confused what the defense is claiming now!!! Ladies…….

      what am I gonna do with you for pointing this one out!!! total headspin!!

  46. endriescarol
    04/15/2013 at 8:01 pm

    I don’t see my posts, I have tried before. How can I do this wrong?

  47. 04/15/2013 at 8:04 pm

    When you burn your toast tomorrow, don’t go seeing images of Jodi.

    Those bombs in Boston sounded pretty big.

  48. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 8:05 pm

    that’s probably WHY Juan said ok … because he knows her testimony was that she was kneeling. He can now impeach her testimony because they are stipulating she was standing? or can he, since he agreed to the stipulation?

    • Kristy
      04/15/2013 at 8:18 pm

      I tend to agree, it will be a hallow victory for defense. Jodi said she was kneeling, and that is a straight on photo looking into Travis’s eyes.

  49. CC ...
    04/15/2013 at 8:09 pm

    I’m sitting here watching HLN, (I know, I know … I must be a masochist) when the clip shown right before one of their 546687764487 commercials is of Wurmi calling JM “the great one” his voice dripping with sarcasm and I’m yelling at the TV. What a d*#khead!!! (to use the technical term). Then I see WillNot turning her head and acting sooo insulted when JM said everything was a waste of time except perhaps adding pennies to the defense (bill) or words to that effect. I need a drink! Sorry for the rant, guys… 😔

  50. CC ...
    04/15/2013 at 8:11 pm

    And PS… WillNot has forever tainted Sally Field’s Gidget for me…. Helium-pitched annoying B*#ch!!
    I better just open a bottle of vino. Sign …

  51. 04/15/2013 at 8:12 pm

    Uh, Oh, this is big.

  52. 04/15/2013 at 8:16 pm

    “a few more pennies for the Kettle…”

    • CC ...
      04/15/2013 at 8:18 pm

      Thanks, BB 😊

  53. 04/15/2013 at 8:16 pm

    IMO his stipulating just lends more credence to the premeditated, she wasn’t holding it in that instant, so she had to have those weapons hidden on or near her, JM is going to tear it up on his closing argument, there won’t be a shred of doubt she went with intent he’s doing a wonderful job jmho

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:17 pm

      exactly… once its on her…. as we know it was… its reactionary… it’s premeditated.. wormy has been watching too much social media and jumped to the holding the knife or gun to him to get him to pose for those pics…. I for one, in every scenario I’ve posted have NEVER thought she had the gun on her at that point. It never made sense he would not have got it off her. How could she hold him at bay simultaneously take the photos. He would have easily over powered her. It has NEVER made sense to me that way. never.

      Wormy has stuffed up and I think this is in the prosecutions favour if its in only to prove she took the photo with both hands on camera. Nothing new.

      • 04/15/2013 at 9:21 pm

        sorry at top that should be.. it’s NOT reactionary…….. ie not his actions that cause her to get the gun. time constraits and the perfect closet, prove beyond reasonable doubt the gun was not in there. So where was it? I ask this purely as a question posed to the defense.

  54. Kristy
    04/15/2013 at 8:23 pm

    Quite frankly, I think it was better for prosecutor to not have the jury listen to JM argue the witness, and get a 1 minute acceptance. I do wonder if JM was faking the defense out as to the importance of gun or knife in that photo due to the angle of the photo.

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:04 pm

      it irrelevant…. Juan and most of us in here dont believe she had a gun or knife then either all it proves is she took that picture and we already know that.

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:44 pm

        Syn~~could she have had the gun in a pocket of her pants?? If there were pockets. A 25 caliber is small enough to fit in.

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:45 pm

        who knows.. but I think refer to ninja story… ninja goes through purse…. Jodi goes through purse to get gun

  55. 04/15/2013 at 8:31 pm

    And that was soooo sly of JM to get that out there, if the jury doesn’t even know already, how much the “experts” and Nurmi are raking in. Also he got out the point JA was tweeting, and insulting him.

    The note in the magazine, (was it from one of LaViolette’s “subscriptions”?) “You fucked up!…” is in evidence, as far as I know.

    This train is coming in to the station. And there’s no stopping it. Willmott, and Nermi are simply outdone by a master Prosecutor . All the defense now can do is object and claim mistrial. But I pray the jury can be corraled and sequestered before it’s too late.

    Remember the Simpson trial, where the defense kept picking off jurors, sending letters to the judge from phantom writers, , to empaneled jurors, etc…The defense in the OJ trial didn’t just bend the law, they broke it as a matter of principle.

    And Bert n Ernie are simply outmatched by “The Great One!”

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 11:04 pm

      I don’t think the jury was there for the tweeting testimony, or any other testimony, but only in court a few minutes for the stipulation… But I could be wrong…

  56. kristin
    04/15/2013 at 8:31 pm

    You have my heart Donchais. Your passion for justice runs very deep.

  57. kristin
    04/15/2013 at 8:38 pm

    I could not believe my eyes this morning when I saw Travis’s family seated next to JA. This is such a slap in the face to the siblings. You could see how heavily they were breathing, trying to stay calm. I hope our prayers for them give them strength. I can’t honestly say I could stop myself from attacking JA. My defense would be that the victims rights law was violated by having her seated within my reach. I would show zero remorse.

  58. 04/15/2013 at 8:40 pm

    I swear when I enlarged the photo of the eye. I saw the Aflac Duck. HUMMM!!!

  59. 04/15/2013 at 8:44 pm

    The photos of the retina, remind me of the “smokeman” outline from the JFK conspiracy

  60. 04/15/2013 at 8:46 pm

    wait! is the reprehense trying to insinuate there were two figuires in his retina?

  61. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 8:49 pm

    In the hotel, the first night I was able to get to Donchais’ wonderful site … after much farting around with the remote — to put it mildly it was not user friendly. I am so grateful for the wonderful synopsis and all the comments…..ty all so much!! The TV/remote locked up around 1 am and I wasn’t able to see all the comments. The 2nd night, we went up to our rooms about 12am but before hand (with remote in tow) I went to the front desk and complained about the set up etc.!! The hotel was gracious enough to send up their techie. turns out that the IR signal had been lost. Got the thing working again and so I was able to read some of the comments … I did try to view the trial via you tube, but was not able to, and I really didn’t want to have the techie come up again so I spent all my in room time trying to stay informed via this site! Awesome comments! Of course that stimulated thoughts of my own and I did manage to use the hotel pen and paper to write some of these down (go figure). So once home I watched via youtube, the trial coverage that I missed. THANK GOD for youtube, google and this site!!

    So, here are some of my random thoughts and guffaws during this time:

    ~ Hodi and TA dated 5 months! FIVE. 150 DAYS they actually “dated” They knew each other for approx 20 mo, so that is around 600 days give or take. So, 450 days they knew each other but weren’t “exclusive” let alone “domestic”. In the first place, how long must someone DATE before the alleged “expert” can call it DV? since when is DATING considered a domestic relationship? doesn’t the word DOMESTIC indicate that the couple is LIVING together? yes, the ho stayed there on occasion, but what evidence is there that they were a DOMESTIC couple? none!
    The first account of DV (ha) was when? Sept or Oct of 07…. months after they ‘broke-up’ In 600 days, the ho can recall 4 instances of supposed violence from TA. Even if I have that wrong and there are a few more instances as she claims………well my God, in the scheme of things how in the world could ANYONE determine that was DOMESTIC violence?! I wish toilette would have been asked how she can deem a dating couple as being a domestic couple. I would have liked to see how many times in all her years of counseling, what the ‘average number of DV events’ occur in 600 days. How many days (given 600) do TRUE DV victims give for being abused?
    Another question that I wanted asked.. toilette, even if you think the ho was abused 1 time, 4times however many times, does that justify the brutal murder of TA? ~ In addition, how many days or times in those 600 days did Travis suffer more pain, more emotional, mental, “domestic violence”??

    ~ La Toilette claims that TA led a double life really?? because he dated and was a flirt? who’s word is it that he professed to be a virgin? if and when he said it, I am sure it was before his HOdi time. I don’t even buy that they had anal sex. but seriously, how is the “sex” different for TA with anyone vs normal relationships? the alleged “sex” is no different to most couples their age! What gives toilette the right to judge ANYONE for their sex lives?

    ~From when they first met, I believe Travis was trying to HELP the ho. Help her become a better human being, help her with her relationship with God. She latched on to that and converted to Mormonism because she thought that was what Travis wanted for her, and she saw it as her ticket to becoming his. It took Travis awhile to see the ho for what she really is, a serpent, a servant to the devil ( and we all know she has the reptile look and tongue to prove that)

    catching up on the trials:
    April 10.. whiney willnot looks like “omg we are going down” love it!
    wurmi keeps looking at the jury, actually POINTS to a juror and starts talking to whiney. Hodi can’t STFU!! This whispering and note passing amongst the ho and whiney becomes more maddening each day! Hodi loves that willnot is bitching about Juan’s tone.
    LOL at toiletter. she claims that after a 5 mo dating period that she finds it ‘offensive’ that Travis is dating others! My God, they were broken up! they were DONE! It is no one’s biz, esp Hodi’s what he is doing!! Hodi just can’t let go!
    All the worm can do is eye the jury. He is just a worm, but sure wanting to be a snake like the ho. He is just butt ugly. Makes my stomach turn. yuk.
    Oh how I wish willnot to slip on her freaking stilettos on her way up to whine more! If she is the “dp qualified” defense atty, why does it always seem that the judge is schooling her?
    The evil one taking pride in the fact that Sam and Tanisha sit and cry. It is so heart wrenching and I am crying right along with them. So sorry that they have to go through all of this.

    ~ La toilette talking about how she uses the DSM for diagnosis so that her clients can fill out insurance papers! MORE FRAUD! I sure hope the insurance companies are investigating her and her fraudulent diagnosis.

    ~ Can and should Travis’ family file civil charges against toilette for character assassination?

    ~ The jacket ho has, slipping her arms in it and keeping the notebook in her lap. It is clear very clear that she is process of passing more notes! She places the note in the coat, and breathes out a sigh. Again, where’s the fn bailiff? Why are they allowing this?

    ~ The wurm’s watch…. can you say overcompensate! hahahha

    ~ agree that juror questions in order kinda defeats the purpose. Are these typed up before the DF and Pros see them or are they provided to council as is?

    ~ Where’s toilette’s documentation/proof of her time with RB curtains (BTW i nearly fell off the bed when I read that!)

    ~toilette says that Ho never showed any manipulative behavior with prior bf’s. I wonder what Jack (Daryl’s son) would say?

    ~ During the sentencing phase: Will Juan be able to bring in her tweeting I would think that would go against any good points (as if there are any)

    well i could go on and on but just too bummed to do so. today has been a total violation of human spirit.

  62. 04/15/2013 at 8:50 pm

    I can see it now! In the reflection of jodi in the iris! She’s wearing a Slayer concert t shirt!!!!!!!!!!

    • 04/15/2013 at 8:58 pm

      instead of the smoking gun….. we now have the smoldering eye .

  63. daislyflower
    04/15/2013 at 8:56 pm

    Hello trying to get my posts to work.

  64. daislyflower
    04/15/2013 at 8:57 pm

    yeah got it

  65. 04/15/2013 at 8:59 pm

    bubblebutts :
    wait! is the reprehense trying to insinuate there were two figuires in his retina?

    My baby told me to put my drink down after I said I saw 4 figures!!

  66. 04/15/2013 at 9:03 pm

    Moon, yeah, I’m of rock hard stiffness that there was never the Anal sex. She made that up, thinking that it would show that he demeaned her, cough, puke,,,,,,it “debased” her.

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:07 pm

      bubble also it goes worse for tarnishing his reputation works for her and obviously by the width of the garage door….. it’s her preferred entrance, she probably fantasised about it. This is her way of making it ‘real’

      • Crystal Harris
        04/15/2013 at 9:38 pm

        And differentiating her from other girls as far as what she offers to guys sexually. Let’s be honest…not a lot of normal girls like that particular sex act. If JA came along and acted like it turned her on more than anything, it likely held guys’ attention in her…for a time.

      • 04/15/2013 at 9:42 pm

        and she states their first encounter was anal… as I said before who does that…. think MMD responded gay guys and someone else respnded wobo… about sums it up.

    • Bridget Bergeron
      04/16/2013 at 12:05 pm

      She did have anal sex with all of her boyfriend s.nefarious initiated ever time

  67. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 9:05 pm

    oh and yeah, the entire bit about toilette bringing SPECTATORS to watch her performance! egads, she must think she’s back at some jr high program. talk about over the top! who brings spectators to watch a trial performance??? the lady in nucking futs

  68. 04/15/2013 at 9:11 pm

    Well, thank goodness that she tweeted that she’s not gay. It’s a wonder…

  69. 04/15/2013 at 9:17 pm

    Need advice, sick of HLN, and I’m about four beers in, should I watch the Mr. Majestic’s cross of JA from the beginning, again…or should I watch AL’s testimony again? I got Samuels down pat…we know this stuff so well we could all act it out. Theatre of the Absurd

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 9:24 pm

      Gees …. if you can stand it …. I vote AVL … see if you can figure out what she talked about that maybe she should not have ….. I think that is the basis for the mystery hearing. She based her opinion on some evidence that was specifically excluded ….. but are you serious? How can you take it??

      • HJ Madison
        04/15/2013 at 9:26 pm

        Or rather ALV …. the toilet … you know the one.

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:27 pm

      what you looking for Bubble?

  70. 04/15/2013 at 9:25 pm

    Moon…. this really puts it in perspective

    each other for approx 20 mo, so that is around 600 days give or take. So, 450 days they knew each other but weren’t “exclusive” let alone “domestic”. In the first place, how long must someone DATE before the alleged “expert” can call it DV? since when is DATING considered a domestic relationship

    • Kristy
      04/15/2013 at 9:37 pm

      I have always wondered about this as Travis is the only significant other that she hasn’t lived with. That alone is telling, she was always at arms length.

      • 04/15/2013 at 9:40 pm

        which goes to show why she wanted to possess him so badly! She never could. You have to believe, on her track record… she wanted it, but his religious beliefs would preclude it. Another reason for her to hate the LDS

    • Bridget Bergeron
      04/16/2013 at 12:10 pm

      In Florida any 2 people no matter what sex in a fight is dv and one or bothget. Arrested. same in Ct.

  71. Kristy
    04/15/2013 at 9:42 pm

    I really think that Jodi sees herself as Roxie Hart, and thinks she’s going to outsmart everyone, or attempt to tarnish the jury by tweeting and selling her art. All the defense motions are smoke and mirrors and an attempt to delay the inevitable rebuttal that will crucify her. All those nimrods calling for a mistrial are so ignorant in thinking that testimony from this trial won’t be admit table in a next trial. The judge has pretty much shown her disgust at the defense today for their antics.

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 9:51 pm

      Hey Kristy …. I agree … but the thing that we have to all remember is that this judge is doing all she can to “perfect the record” … let the DT make every argument they want on the record so that when this case goes up on appeal (and if WOBO gets the death penalty it is an automatic appeal) the conviction will not be reversed. Imagine our utter horror to be forced to go thru this entire circus again! Let alone what it would mean to TA’s family! It is frustrating and it seems an absurd waste of time but at least the WOBO will not be able to claim “ineffective counsel”.

      • Laine
        04/16/2013 at 5:09 am

        I absolutely agree HJ. I don’t think for one minute this judge is being “soft” I think her disposition hides her intelligence and knowledge very well!! I think she is being very smart, and just occasionally the mask slips and you see the contempt that she is truly feeling with the defense team.

  72. 04/15/2013 at 9:51 pm

    My thoughts on Anal:

    It doesn’t float my boat, however, I find it true that certain woman (Non Skank) enjoy that method. I think she used it as the ace up her sleeve, she gave him her ass. At that age, and in his circumstances, I don’t think he preferred that kind of sex…but her ass has been around.

    I think she used that, something her former boyfriends had asked about, and indulged in…she gave them, according to her, her Anal Virginity. Guys think that kind of sex is the end all be all; the woman has aquiessed the back door to the alley. Mostly guys that have never had sex.

    For Jodi to have hated it so much she wouldn’t have “tried” it with Anybody, let alone try it a second time.

    • 04/15/2013 at 9:57 pm

      sociopaths are hedonistic. It fits with her psychopathology. They always want to live in the extremes. Primal urges are the few ways they feel anything at all. That’s another thing to throw in the mix as well.

      • Moon
        04/15/2013 at 10:42 pm

        well all that is in this awful mix all we get is a mind #$^&. extreme in so many ways. has me and a lot of other people wishing bad bad things for her.

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:43 pm

        hahah thats their aim.. to literally mind $£%^ all of us!

    • Kristy
      04/15/2013 at 10:43 pm

      She couldn’t get pregnant with anal sex. I thought about it once and was ignorant, as well as the guy I was seeing, that the attempt lasted about 2 minutes at most. I stopped it cause it wasn’t working for me. We never attempted it again, and it was no big deal. When I dated a guy few years ago that wanted it, I told him my experience and said no mas if that’s what you want, get it elsewhere. There’s no way she wasn’t more than happy to oblige. Jodi was far more sexually active than Travis, even if he wasn’t a virgin when he met her.

    • GN5020
      04/16/2013 at 10:51 am

      IMHO – I think Jodi definitely used sex to lure Travis into a relationship hoping it would lead to marriage. First oral, then anal (something she had tried before) — probably convincing Travis that it did not “technically” break the Law of Chastity because it wasn’t vaginal. Remember, this is Ms. Einstein, so there is no way she wouldn’t understand the LDS missionaries, but a 30-year old virgin was an easy target. I think Travis was weak and Jodi was manipulative. I don’t believe for a minute that Travis talked her into anything, especially not anything she wasn’t game for. And the “anal sex after baptism” event NEVER happened. I’ve known lots of people who break up (and even divorce) but keep coming back for booty calls, and that was Travis’s achilles heel. When she saw he was finally done with her, based on the May 26 emails/text, and he called her out for her sociopathy, she used the same lure to get into his house and bed one last time, with a plan to make sure he would never move on to someone else.

    • Bridget Bergeron
      04/16/2013 at 12:14 pm

      I say its an exit not an entrance.

  73. Kristy
    04/15/2013 at 10:00 pm

    Syntara :
    which goes to show why she wanted to possess him so badly! She never could. You have to believe, on her track record… she wanted it, but his religious beliefs would preclude it. Another reason for her to hate the LDS

    She thought she could win out no matter what. I think that’s why she laughed in her journal about being asked out 4 times in 1 day or 1 week and turning them down. I waitresses going through college, and if I had a nickel for every time I was asked out, I wouldn’t be working now. Jodi likes to act like Travis was desperate to marry, but there she was at 28 rejected by Darryl for marriage, about to get foreclosed on, and still working as a waitress. She wasn’t making any money on her so-called art. I think Jodi was starting to panic over her future prospects by the time she met Travis. I also think she’s lying through her teeth over the bj in the Starbucks parking lot, as well as some of the fantasies she attributed to Travis.

    • 04/15/2013 at 10:14 pm

      oh no doubt being a narcissist it ate her big time she lives to control. That’s why I love when Det Flores said to her “Frankly, he just didn’t see you as marriage material” hahaha he quickly follows it up with a good cop statement but boy that would have got to her.

      90% at least of what she is saying now about their relationship is fantasy in her head, and what she wanted but didn’t get. Each time she didn’t get her way she has made it into an allegation. That day you mention.. I think is the day she told him of her idea to return to Mesa wasn’t it? Or is this an earlier incident?

      • Kristy
        04/15/2013 at 10:33 pm

        Nope, she referenced the Starbucks BJ as one of their first encounters. I think she did that purposely to try to influence the jury into seeing Travis as the sexual aggressor, when it was obvious that Jodi was the sex expert. It didn’t make sense that Travis would insist on public sex, when all her other sex testimony indicated that he was only open about sex when they weren’t around others. She also threw out there the sex on the off ramp, yet also threw in there the sex in the woods. I think she neglected to indicate all her fantasies except the facial she couldn’t ‘t deny from tapes. She mentioned “their fertile imagination” and I bet hers were the public ones, he was too repressed based on his religion. I think most everything she’s attributed sexually has been flipped. I’m not saying he didn’t come up with some fantasies, but she was the instigator in my opinion.

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:41 pm

        cant remember I know that every time she references something there’s a marrying comment in her journal that something happened where she didn’t get her way.

  74. NancyB
    04/15/2013 at 10:05 pm

    The DV expert doesn’t know that it’s called IPV – Intimate Partner Violence!

    • Moon
      04/15/2013 at 10:29 pm

      well thank you!! that entire bit of calling it DOMESTIC violence really bothers me! but again i ask… what time frame is considered to be “intimate partner”??? cripes lots of women have intimate partners a day a mo etc so how is IPV quantified/qualified??

  75. 04/15/2013 at 10:05 pm

    Blade runner defense, saw it in the reflection

  76. 04/15/2013 at 10:13 pm

    I think we’re getting too hung up on side stuff. She’s done. It’s over for her, until she gives her first interview…Will it be with DR Phil?

  77. 04/15/2013 at 10:21 pm

    After seeing discussion of JA missing EQ, I’ve been doing some reading. I found this test for EQ. Hopefully I’m not off base. http://psychology.about.com/library/quiz/bl_eq_quiz.htm
    Thought it was interesting. I’m sure it’s not exhaustive.

  78. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 10:24 pm

    which brings up another point …. supposedly the aunt was crying last week and hasn’t been back since… story goes that she got upset . yeah i bet she did. i think dr phil made some cut-backs!

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 7:14 am

      You may be on to something Moon!

  79. 04/15/2013 at 10:28 pm

    Hey, I’m not paying for Jodi’s defense for nothing…Hang in there Dr. Phil!!!!!

  80. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 10:32 pm

    can someone please just put a plastic bag over her head and zip it ??

  81. 04/15/2013 at 10:39 pm

    I would bet, all, that the jury doesn’t buy this. At all. Don’t worry friends, she will get death. I’ll put “pennies in, the, kettle

    “Put but money in they purse,” Iago, Othello

  82. 04/15/2013 at 10:41 pm

    “Can I see some of those photos?”

  83. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 10:42 pm

    Kristy :
    …. I think most everything she’s attributed sexually has been flipped…..

    clipped just for space ….

    That makes it easy to recall … she just tranposes her own behavior with that of Travis so she always keeps the story straight….

    • Kristy
      04/15/2013 at 10:47 pm

      Exactly. It’s the easiest way to lie, just like the abuse claims.

  84. Kristy
    04/15/2013 at 10:46 pm

    Syntara :
    cant remember I know that every time she references something there’s a marrying comment in her journal that something happened where she didn’t get her way.

    She said one their first sexual experiences was the bj at Starbucks. Who does that in a parking lot for crimes sake. I bet all the public sex acts/fantasies were hers or were lies.

    • 04/15/2013 at 10:53 pm

      yeah I know.. but the point is in her diary something happened that day.. just at the moment I van’t remember what. So she picks these days that he ‘smited’ her in some way to get back at him with the ridiculous accusations.

      For my blog I’m going to relisten and list them all. so much to do!

      • HJ Madison
        04/15/2013 at 10:55 pm

        Syntara: Do you think she was writing her journal specifically for TA to read …

      • 04/15/2013 at 10:56 pm

        I think she was writing her journal to reflect her persona.

      • Kristy
        04/15/2013 at 11:04 pm

        I wasn’t aware that she written the early sex acts in her journal, but just claimed them.

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:07 pm

        no no… that’s not what I mean

      • HJ Madison
        04/15/2013 at 11:12 pm

        I stepped in to ask about her journals in general. Did not mean to confuse the issue….sorry!

        But, when I re-read them I just can see her sitting there writing …. dreaming TA will read them …. like the suicide threat …. and the BS about loving him … but just can not marry him ….. It is all so contrived!! Ugh!! She is such a creep! Here is a quick link:


      • 04/15/2013 at 11:13 pm

        yes contrived for her persona. exactly

  85. Chrissie A
    04/15/2013 at 10:48 pm


    • 04/15/2013 at 10:55 pm

      LOL!!!!! imagine finding that there!!! 😀 very nice!!!

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 10:58 pm

        Once I enhanced the dog it was a piece of cake 😛

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:00 pm

        and of course you had the equipment! 🙂 I think you should contact Juan!!!

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 11:03 pm

        MMD might get jealous if I tell Juanderful about my equipment, but for the sake of rebuttal I just might have to! 😛

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:06 pm

        LOLOL hey she’ll understand it’s for the greater good!!!

      • NancyB
        04/15/2013 at 11:49 pm

        You are soooo good at this but equally very funny LOL at your comment that once you enhanced the dog it was a piece of cake!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 11:21 pm

      OMG!!! Incredible Chrissie…as always!!

  86. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 10:55 pm

    ahhhh now thattttt’s the way i see it! ty

  87. 04/15/2013 at 10:58 pm

    If ur watching HLN just showed a picture of a spider, calling it a black widow. I raised a black widow when I was in the ARMY. That photo is not a black widow, Black Wiodow Spiders are easy to spot. I caught one trying to land on my head, when I was bullshitting and supposed to be sweeping as part of my punishment for being a nbon comformist …ought my widow against a scorpion, and we won. She had him spun up and taken away.. Loved that girl, she even beat a large Brown recluse. I called my champion spider, Cynthia, after my girlfriend at the time.

  88. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 10:58 pm

    lol hln after dark bold accusation: hodi quilty or not quilty of sexual deviation. the not guiltys won. really?? really?

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:02 pm

      Moon seriously sounds like that show is aimed at iqs 80-105.. plse stay away!

      • Chrissie A
        04/15/2013 at 11:05 pm

        They are really literally bad news and helping the defense!! It’s best to do research online, there is plenty of info out there 😉

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:08 pm

        im so glad I dont see any of that stuff.. except for an occasional tidbit that’s thrown in here! Makes me cring ppl are that stupid!

      • Douglme
        04/15/2013 at 11:14 pm

        Some people aren’t too bright, how do you think OJ and CA got off???

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:17 pm


      • Douglme
        04/15/2013 at 11:15 pm

        No common sense!

      • Moon
        04/15/2013 at 11:21 pm

        yeah yeah, i have it going in the living room, i am back in my ‘puter room. i actually didn’t even know these channels (hln, tru-tv) existed until the CA case, when my ‘puter went down and I was determined to watch that trial. During this trial, I have those HLN programs running, with the hope they might show something I might have missed. Even Holly Hughes mentioned on that radio show last night that she gets paid from them to give the defensive’s perspective.

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:22 pm

        yeah yeah this is like Trace she always says “I’m watching HLN (I know, I know) every time but keeps watching! 😛

      • Jay
        04/15/2013 at 11:21 pm

        Unless you have the inhibitions oa a Victorian prude nothing either one of them did sexually is deviate by the standards of anyone who reached the age of of consent after 1960.

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:23 pm

        it’s the way she uses her sexuality that makes her a deviate. So yes she is.

  89. Chrissie A
    04/15/2013 at 11:09 pm

    Syntara :
    im so glad I dont see any of that stuff.. except for an occasional tidbit that’s thrown in here! Makes me cring ppl are that stupid!

    Yep, I’m the same 😉

  90. Kristy
    04/15/2013 at 11:10 pm

    HJ Madison :
    Syntara: Do you think she was writing her journal specifically for TA to read …

    I do. It sounds like its something done by Mormons and Jodi sounds like she accidentally put stuff in there or accidentally texted/emailed him incorrectly to much about other guys for it to be accidentally. I think the phrase “accidentally on purpose” describes Jodi to a tee.

    • HJ Madison
      04/15/2013 at 11:17 pm

      Yes really … “accidently on purpose”…. like the suicide threat … she never thought about suicide … what would planet earth by like without JA!

      • Jay
        04/15/2013 at 11:25 pm

        Testimony by her parents and by childhood friends indicated she was using the threat of suicide (for emotional leverage) from her teenage years..

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:44 pm

      course it wasn’t accidsental.. she’s a master manipulator! That’s why he called her out on it. He knows her nature bythis stage. Which is why she is using it.

  91. Janeto
    04/15/2013 at 11:12 pm

    Hi all!!! How is everybody? Just to stop in b4 hitting the hay! Love all the comments, and boy…what a mockery the DT is doing! I did myself a favor by never watching HLN or “after dark” since I got on this site, and I REALLY don’t miss it at all!!!! Just a bunch of drama b.s.

    • Tracey A
      04/15/2013 at 11:23 pm

      Hey Girl!!! ***waves****. 🙂 Since I missed most of the morning session I’m torturing myself by watching what happened. That’ll teach me not to miss live stream!!!

      • Janeto
        04/15/2013 at 11:26 pm

        🙂 Yeah that will teach you alright!…….NOT!! Hey, I’m back to blue!!! Whats up with word press? Didn’t want Donomans color at all anyway!!

      • Janeto
        04/15/2013 at 11:26 pm

        Sorry, forgot you waves {{{ }}}} tee hee

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 12:08 am

      My bad…forgot you were trying the rock the DonoMAN’s colors earlier…You look ravishing in blue again! 😀

  92. 04/15/2013 at 11:12 pm

    Kristy :
    I wasn’t aware that she written the early sex acts in her journal, but just claimed them.

    Kristy.. I’ll try to give you an example of what I am talking about.

    The day she told Travis she wanted to go to mesa… that was a ploy on her part to get him to beg her to stay. He didn’t cos he wanted her gone… that pissed her off… so now to get back at him she makes up that’s the day he slapped her around in the car.

    Same as the day she now says he “broke” her finger.. can’t remember what that is but it’s a similar thing… a day he didn’t do something she wanted him to do.. or sent a nasty text to her.. or called her out… stuff like that she remembers clearly because of her narcissism and those are the days she picks for these phony accusations she now has.

    • Kristy
      04/15/2013 at 11:21 pm

      I doubt all of the sex acts she claims, and don’t know that she put them in her journal but just claimed during testimony. I think she has conflated non journal entries in 2 different categories. I’m not sure if we’re talking about the same thing in different ways.

      I agree she lied about Travis wanting her to stay when that wasn’t shown at all.

      I’m was talking about how I think she misrepresented early things in order to try to perpetuate a fallacy that Travis was abusive from the start.

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:32 pm

        see my response to HJ downstairs, might help you see where I’m coming from.

  93. NancyB
    04/15/2013 at 11:17 pm

    Reviewing this from last Friday was helpful to me. From today’s testimony, whatever happened last week in all the in chambers meetings with ALV was obviously VERY damning and upsetting, as Juan and the Judge eluded to today. I look forward to learning what it was that Juan and his team turned up that obviously went against ALV somehow. It had to be something serious for the court to spend so much time on it in the middle of the trial.

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:36 pm

      and this is being heard tomorrow right Nance?

      • NancyB
        04/15/2013 at 11:51 pm


      • 04/15/2013 at 11:53 pm

        hope its not sealed afterwards til trial end… Jim pointed out that possibility

  94. 04/15/2013 at 11:17 pm

    HJ Madison :
    I stepped in to ask about her journals in general. Did not mean to confuse the issue….sorry!
    But, when I re-read them I just can see her sitting there writing …. dreaming TA will read them …. like the suicide threat …. and the BS about loving him … but just can not marry him ….. It is all so contrived!! Ugh!! She is such a creep! Here is a quick link:

    HJ persona is her projected image. Her diaries are contrived to reinforce the image she creates for the outside world.

    They do not reflect her inner thoughts like most peoples journals do. In fact in her case, it’s the opposite… the entries deliberately hide them. Or try to.

    This is what makes LaLa basing a conclusion on them ludicrous! You cannot take them at face value.

    • 04/15/2013 at 11:27 pm

      bugger I have sent something to mod!

      • Douglme
        04/16/2013 at 12:03 am

        What does that mean Syntara? Some reply I sent the other night was in moderation and I didn’t know what it meant.

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:14 am

        Mel – I you double quote or include a link to something, it goes to moderation and than Donchais has to approve it. It’s just a way of her keeping trolls and spam out of the site. We try not to create extra work for her but sometimes it happens.

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:16 am

        pfftt I answered her below… shoo!! 😀

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:29 am


      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:30 am

        That was meant for you Syn! HA!

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:32 am

        whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatevv………… 😛 🙄 😛

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:35 am

        See post #235 at the mo….

  95. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 11:17 pm

    Just gonna dive on in here…getting caught up on HLN on what I missed this morning…I’m seeing, rather than “reading” The Alexander family sitting BEHIND JA in the Jury box and I’m astounded!!!! How that family can keep such incredible composure is beyond my comprehension!!! I can FEEL their eyes boring into the back of JA’s head. “Can you feel it Jodi…tell me can you feel it”???

    If it were me, I’d have brought a very sharp knife with me and started stabbing her in the head and back just like she did to “my” brother. Of course, that would be virtually impossible seeing that everyone is searched and x-rayed before entering court.

    But seeing this…I wanna get in my best “linebacker” stance and tackle the living shit out of her. I KNOW that I would not be able to resist that urge. How did the Judge ALLOW this???

    • Jay
      04/15/2013 at 11:27 pm

      Lapse in judgement…

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 11:31 pm

        LOL! Maybe Juan would sympathize with me and be my defense attorney. That would be sweet!!!

    • Janeto
      04/15/2013 at 11:29 pm

      Right with you on that!!! She’d see 2 linebackers comin at her and REALLY feel what a body slam feels like!!

      • Tracey A
        04/15/2013 at 11:33 pm

        LMAO!!! Right on Girl! Knew you’d have my back!! 😀

    • Kristy
      04/15/2013 at 11:36 pm

      They are entitled to be there and didn’t sit in the same row. They are showing such strength in suffering through the trial. I can’t imagine the toll this is taking on them to see their brother get murdered a second time by Jodi.

      • 04/15/2013 at 11:38 pm

        I couldn’t do it! … and I mean I .. me… as in not family. So how they can is beyond me. They are INCREDIBLE.

    • NancyB
      04/15/2013 at 11:54 pm

      Thank God the judge finally came to her senses and took a 3 minute recess and made JA & her BFF move to folding chairs closer to the screen.

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:27 am

        Is that what happened? I keep rewinding cuz I just caught sight of JA and Perky in different seats. I was hoping it was Juan that asked the Judge to have them change seats but I didn’t see. Bummer…that would’ve been great to see. (Not sure why we didn’t since the Jury is not present…?)

        Thanks for letting me know…now I can keep fast forwarding until Juan is up. Wurmi is putting me to sleep….

  96. Tracey A
    04/15/2013 at 11:26 pm

    Syntara :
    yeah yeah this is like Trace she always says “I’m watching HLN (I know, I know) every time but keeps watching!

    LOL!! Well, apparently I’m not the only one…!!!

  97. HJ Madison
    04/15/2013 at 11:28 pm

    OK … I am sure I must have missed this ….. and I don’t think I can actually stomach reading it ….. but has everyone seen this? JA’s blog on blogger.com? OMG! If it is old and redundant I am sorry.


    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 12:24 am

      LOL! I love that one of her favorite movies is “Dumb & Dumber”. That describes Wurmi and Perkster AND ALV and Dr. Do Little! She gets to see that movie play out every day in court right before her very eyes. (I personally have never seen the movie…I started it one day but after about 15mins it was too stupid for me to continue).

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:27 am

        hahahahahahahahaha I didnt read it was too scared… Trace…. should I or can I skip it?

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:05 pm

      Heh…She’s interested in justice.

  98. 04/15/2013 at 11:29 pm

    this comment is in mod upstairs:

    HJ Madison :

    I stepped in to ask about her journals in general. Did not mean to confuse the issue….sorry!
    But, when I re-read them I just can see her sitting there writing …. dreaming TA will read them …. like the suicide threat …. and the BS about loving him … but just can not marry him ….. It is all so contrived!! Ugh!! She is such a creep!

    HJ persona is her projected image. Her diaries are contrived to reinforce the image she creates for the outside world.
    They do not reflect her inner thoughts like most peoples journals do. In fact in her case, it’s the opposite… the entries deliberately hide them. Or try to.

    This is what makes LaLa basing a conclusion on them ludicrous! You cannot take them at face value.

  99. 04/15/2013 at 11:33 pm

    see upstairs

  100. 04/15/2013 at 11:34 pm

    Hello Janeto and Trace! *** waves**

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 12:02 am

      Hey Girl! ***waves back***

  101. 04/15/2013 at 11:40 pm

    Jay :
    Testimony by her parents and by childhood friends indicated she was using the threat of suicide (for emotional leverage) from her teenage years..

    typical manipulative behaviour. Terrible.

  102. Moon
    04/15/2013 at 11:41 pm

    Tracey A :

    Syntara :yeah yeah this is like Trace she always says “I’m watching HLN (I know, I know) every time but keeps watching!

    LOL!! Well, apparently I’m not the only one…!!!

    Tracey A :

    Syntara :yeah yeah this is like Trace she always says “I’m watching HLN (I know, I know) every time but keeps watching!

    LOL!! Well, apparently I’m not the only one…!!!

    does this mean our IQs are only 80 to 105?? 🙄

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 1:32 am

      Or -80 to -105. LOL! That’s what this trial has done to me!

      Hiya Moon! Missed ya. I’ve been in n out lately and hate that I have to get caught up. 😀

  103. 04/16/2013 at 12:13 am

    Douglme :
    What does that mean Syntara? Some reply I sent the other night was in moderation and I didn’t know what it meant.

    Mel it could mean a few things.

    If you quote a quote within a quote… (nested x 2) it goes to mod
    If you post one ‘nest’ and it has an url or smiley in it… ”
    If you post maybe 2 or more links in a post (depending on Donchais setting) it can go to mod

    Probably other ways too… those just examples. What it means is you have posted something that exceeds the settings of the comment section and Donchaise needs to approve or disapprove it before it gets further.

  104. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 12:16 am

    Sorry…didn’t see that Syn had already responded. She has way more intel on that then I do….

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:17 am

      LOLOL just commented to you upstairs! hahaha! you answered same same anyhow

    • Douglme
      04/16/2013 at 3:18 am

      I appreciate everyone’s help, thanks!

  105. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 12:31 am

    Wow! I keep hitting reply but it shows as a standard post. Weird.

  106. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 12:34 am

    Syntara :
    hahahahahahahahaha I didnt read it was too scared… Trace…. should I or can I skip it?

    You can skip it but when she talks about her interests you might like to see some of that. “Animals” was one…all I think about is DoggyBoy. Then I just hate her even more. Her book selections were interesting too. Maybe you should take a look…

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:36 am

      hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! what a list of interests…. can we all say narcissist!!!! psychology and quantum physics… yet not one of her fav movies reflect it…. plus well hey all I can say is EPIC fail in psychology!

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:45 am

        Thought you might get a kick outta that. I missed quantum physics but then I just scanned her typical BS.


  107. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 12:42 am

    Hey Syn…did Chrissie take off for the nite or just do her usual D&R??? LMAO!!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:43 am

      I have no idea.. Im thinking classic D&R…

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:46 am

        Heeheehee! Too funny!

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:47 am

        she made a wicked comment of which Im awaiting a reply so thinking she’s not around or busy elsewhere at the moment maybe cooking up another masterpiece

  108. 04/16/2013 at 12:51 am

    poof she appears… she is around!

  109. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 12:52 am

    Just caught how Mike B and Grace Wong exchanged a smile as she left the stand. I love that guy!

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:53 am

      hey was that closed?

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 12:57 am

        The Grace Wong testimony?? No, I watched it.

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:59 am

        k finding it thanks I was sooo late tuning in today

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:58 am

        Mike B needs a fan page! I’m gonna put that on my to do list for my blog… link to him need some pics!

  110. 04/16/2013 at 1:07 am

    Trace… you there?

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 1:17 am

      I’m here. Laptop died…had to plug in.

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:19 am

        hey what did you think of the pupil ninja?

  111. 04/16/2013 at 1:10 am

    OMG I see now how close the poor Alexander sisters are to wobo OMG!!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 1:21 am

      Sickens ya doesn’t it??? I don’t know how they maintained composure. Not me…I swear I would’ve taken my chances and tackled her to the ground. Gawd, what has this trial has done to me????

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:24 am

        me.. as me.. I couldn’t have done it… and I’m not even in the same country and obviously never knew him…. yet they somehow did it and he was their brother. Amazing to me how poised they are.

  112. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:25 am

    Syntara :
    hey what did you think of the pupil ninja?

    The craziest biggest load of crap I’ve seen yet. They are reaching for nothing here. The DT is so desperate they are pulling everything outta their ass.

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:29 am

      do you reckon e saw it on the net… and jumped to the conclusion Juan will say she had a knife or gun to him to get the pics… cos that theory is out there but I’ve never subscribed to it and I doubt Juan has either. That’s the only sense I can make of it.

      In other words wormi thinks he’s on a winner to undermine Juan’s case but actually likely helps it. That’s my take on it anyhow.

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 1:53 am

        No way. Wurmi can watch the media all he wants. That’s where he is getting his ammo. Come on! He’s trying to get PM (misconduct) based on media…AND HE’S WATCHING AND QUOTING HLN. That makes it all the better. And Wong was great on the stand…when it was Juan’s turn…”I have no questions your Honor”. That’s so telling. Juan: This is so ridiculous and can’t even form a question.”

        That’s why Juan had no questions…Wurmi keeps helping his case with his ridic motions.

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:55 am

        yep! I know…what you mean no way?

      • Douglme
        04/16/2013 at 3:26 am

        Had to laugh when JM got up to argue against the reflection in the pupil and said, everyone is going to see something different, first I thought it might be a German Shepherd and then thought maybe a Mexican Chihauhau…lol…couldn’t stop laughing. Still makes me laugh when I think about it…he is so right!

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:48 am

        hahaha yes I PML @ that too

    • LindaLou
      04/16/2013 at 8:18 am

      Good day, All! I lost my connection yesterday and now catching up.

      I truly think the DT did get this pupil idea from youtube. A while back I was searching for the shower pictures, I ran across several youtube videos where people did their own analysis of figure(s) in Travis’ pupil. However, these were of the right eye. It’s funny the DT did not use the right eye because based on the videos I saw, it was more convincing than what we saw in court yesterday. Using the right eye, these folks think there were two people in his right pupil.

      It just goes to show that what one person sees doesn’t mean the next person will see the same thing. All of this pupil stuff is hilarious to me. When I saw this in court yesterday, I actually lol knowing I had seen the youtube videos previously. Here is one of many as an example; courtesy of hajable9…


  113. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:28 am

    Syntara :
    me.. as me.. I couldn’t have done it… and I’m not even in the same country and obviously never knew him…. yet they somehow did it and he was their brother. Amazing to me how poised they are.

    That surprises even me. I thought that your Australian blood would have you in court every day. You’ve got incredible spirit. I would gladly take my chances with an assault charge. Who cares??? The satisfaction would be so worth it.

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:31 am

      we Aussies tend to have a strong sense of outrage and justice. We also can do snark well! 😛

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 1:37 am

        Amen to that! Snark and all! Luv it….!

      • Chrissie A
        04/16/2013 at 2:50 am

        We invented all that too! Hah! 😈

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:59 am

        🙄 LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙄

  114. 04/16/2013 at 1:34 am

    JW does like wobo.. her body language at this angle confirms it..haven’t been able to see her legs when she is sitting beside her before now.

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 1:45 am

      They’re probably intertwined with JA! I would need a barf bag if I saw that. But I agree with you Syn.

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:48 am

        the leg cross… you always cross your leg towards the person you like more… strangely normally wourmi sits like he is sided more with Martinez than wobo and JW. Meant to mention that before.

  115. 04/16/2013 at 1:46 am

    If I was arguing my scenario… (as Ive had it since march) this would help me in proving it.

    He says she is close because its a 16mm setting and to get that clear she would have to be close.

    Not a lot of depth of field because the face is in focus as is the background. He says to get a full face shot at 16mm you’d have to be fairly close… so close enough to drop the cam, have it swing around your neck, inadvertently take the next shot as you plunge a knife hidden on you, into his chest.

    Thanks for that wormi!!

  116. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:57 am

    Syntara :
    the leg cross… you always cross your leg towards the person you like more… strangely normally wourmi sits like he is sided more with Martinez than wobo and JW. Meant to mention that before.

    Well, look at the size of him. He’d have to have his legs wrapped around Perky’s neck if he slouched the other way (I need to gouge out my eyeballs again with that image…eh, lather, rinse, repeat…add some bleach…lather, rinse, repeat. OK! I’m good again.

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:05 am


      • 04/16/2013 at 2:06 am

        yea but he can cross his legs the other way.. cos he did to start hiding his socks remember?

  117. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 2:02 am

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:07 am

      I can’t watch that for some reason

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 2:19 am

        Watch it Syn..don’t be scared.It’s good! The Heat is Juan…..

      • Douglme
        04/16/2013 at 3:37 am

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asj-6JTsVes See if this one works, Syn!

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:48 am

        yep that works 🙂

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:18 am

      NancyB can you give me the name of this vid or something I can search for? Cos that doesn’t load for me

      • NancyB
        04/16/2013 at 2:42 am

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:47 am

        ay yes this one works TYVM!!!! 😀

  118. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:07 am

    Uh oh! What awaits me with NancyB’s post??? Diving in…

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 2:11 am

      Just donned my headphones…going in….

  119. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 2:07 am

    I just found this and had a much needed laugh ~
    If you could use a laugh, enjoy~

    The one I linked above this is an excellent review of Alyce!

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:13 am

      LOLOL!! omg those squirrels are soooooo me!!!!!!! that’s what I was doing when she was saying that crap… and dived down the rabbit hole to escape!

      The other one comes up with an error for me tho 😦

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 2:24 am

        ***kicking Syn to the curb***…The squirrel is all me!! That’s me!!!!!

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:28 am

        wth kicking me to the kerb STFU!!! I was there first!!! 😯

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:33 am

        Hey Trace! there are two squirrels let’s take dibs for you know who tries to! I’ll be the second one… you can be the first one okies? 😀

      • NancyB
        04/16/2013 at 2:45 am

        I just re-posted it for you

      • NancyB
        04/16/2013 at 2:57 am

        I know!!! I thought about you & rabibit hole glug glug glug while giggling and watching it 🙂

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:59 am

        hahaha!!! you got me pegged Nance!

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 2:20 am

      Going in…headphones on…

    • Chrissie A
      04/16/2013 at 2:53 am

      LMOA!!!! Way too funny Nancy!!

  120. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:25 am

    Tracey A :
    Watch it Syn..don’t be scared.It’s good! The Heat is Juan…..

    Just watch it Girl. Juan is on his mark as usual.

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:27 am

      no no Trace….. gives me an error I can’t load it! I need info to source another version or something

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 2:32 am

        Hang on….

  121. 04/16/2013 at 2:30 am

    am I talking Chinese today??

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 2:33 am


      • 04/16/2013 at 2:34 am

        seriously all day Ive been thinking I must be……

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 2:51 am

      Really?? Gonna drop the Chrissie card…I call foul! Ha!

      • Chrissie A
        04/16/2013 at 2:54 am

        I’m ducking out of that one 80

  122. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:31 am

    Syntara :
    the leg cross… you always cross your leg towards the person you like more… strangely normally wourmi sits like he is sided more with Martinez than wobo and JW. Meant to mention that before.

    True Dat!! You called it.

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:37 am

      Trace go to #293 re two squirrels

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 2:42 am

        I’m the much cuter, sexier one! That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Ha! 😆

  123. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:36 am

    Syn – can you see this one?? You might have to reboot. I had to to get it. Btw – good call on the marathon runner, He was hit by schrapnel…you can see it happen in slo-mo.

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:39 am

      soooooooo sad re the runner 😥

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:40 am

      which one there’s no link there?? 🙄

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 2:48 am

        hang on..going for it..

  124. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:40 am

    To all my Bostonian friends….you are in my thoughts! {{{{hugs to you all}}}} Love to you all!!!

  125. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 2:44 am

    I just read that ALV had closed and sealed in chambers mtg at 1:15 today and she is done.

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 2:55 am

      Crap!! Gotta go in again….headphones on….

  126. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:54 am

    Syn did you get the vid yet that Nancy posted???/ I one above the squirrel one…?

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:55 am

      yes.. and it’s what I was thinking an said.. how does she not think of those pics when she answers this. Now it’s clear what the 3 mins time out was.. they told her she had to answer.

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 2:58 am

        You answered your own question…she doesn’t think. Period.

      • NancyB
        04/16/2013 at 3:05 am

        Yes! Unbelievable! I’m disappointed that she’s done and we won’t know the details but we can all surmise that one way or another she was strongly admonished by the judge. I saw on an Az sight tonight that it was one of Alyce’s girlfriends who contacted the media about her being stalked (I say BS) and having to go to the ER and that the judge was very unhappy that she rather her gf spokesperson broke rules and spoke to the media. I think it was the defense’s idea to contact the media very possibly. BUT the great news is Juan is UP tomr and we finally will have the trial back on the tracks. It’s been derailed for 2 months with all this poor Jodi bullshit! Now we will hear all about the truth of her premeditation and how she calculated in cold blood to murder him in the most painful and savage way her evil brain could come up with. Yea Juan!!!

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:13 am

        so prettymuch spot on with what KCL was saying on Tricia’s radio show?

  127. 04/16/2013 at 2:57 am

    I even still don’t understand why Juan didn’t put those pics in front of her and ask.. doesn’t this show you why he feared her? I STILL haven’t had that explained. I don’t see why he couldn’t have.. there must be a legal reason I’m assuming????

    NancyB by the way Thanks so much for the links.

    • NancyB
      04/16/2013 at 3:10 am

      Every time that Juan has put up ANY of the autopsy pics of Travis or the Bthrm JW & Nurmi go app and after side bar he has had to move on. It makes me furious. He most certainly better be allowed to show all of these horrific pictures that represent the truth of the cruelty that she made sure he felt in his last moments.

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:15 am

        well that’s what the trial is all about… what she did to Travis… simple!

      • Jay
        04/16/2013 at 8:32 am

        Considered prejudicial to continuously show gory evidence in murder trials. That’s why they don’t bring in corpses to explain autopsy evidence.

    • Houndrancher
      04/16/2013 at 12:17 pm

      I thought for sure Juan would put up some autopsy photos when ALV spoke about Travis’ “horrific words” in his texts. Horrific? Really Latoilette? Horrific is what Wobo did to him on June 4th…

  128. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:59 am

    Because Juan doesn’t have too! He’s Juan…he knows what he’s doing!!! Have faith Sista!!!

  129. 04/16/2013 at 3:01 am

    Chrissie A :
    I’m ducking out of that one 80

    The peking duck?

  130. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 3:01 am

    I’m out friends…take care all. See you on the other side Syn!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:03 am

      cya Trace!!! ***waves***

  131. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 3:11 am

    going to sleep now Syn – see ya tomr – you are the best!

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:15 am

      cya Nancy! byyyee

  132. 04/16/2013 at 3:12 am

    NancyB – Do you think he wanted to ask her… I think he wanted to I think he wanted to say well look at this… *photo* and this *photo* does that give you pause that his concerns may have been founded. I think the judge told the DT to get her to answer or Juan was going to do it. But I have no legal expertise on that just how I perceive it by why went down.

  133. Douglme
    04/16/2013 at 3:13 am

    Tracey A :
    Mel – I you double quote or include a link to something, it goes to moderation and than Donchais has to approve it. It’s just a way of her keeping trolls and spam out of the site. We try not to create extra work for her but sometimes it happens.

    Oh, thanks Tracey for the info. I didn’t know what or how it happened!

    • 04/16/2013 at 8:00 am

      Warning… once he gets past the musical intro… do not have anything in your mouth… just spat my coffee!!!!!!!! Robert – great job!!!!

      • NancyB
        04/16/2013 at 11:58 am

        He is hilarious – He has one a whole series throughout the trial – I’ll post you the links in a bit.

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:02 pm

        I know Uve been watching them since I found the first one

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:03 pm

        was going to post FAQ for dummies tomorrow after trial.. well tomorrow my time after trial

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 10:51 am

      Wow, a hoot! He looks Aussie and speaks like a Chinaman. “Alyce in Wonderrand” and the wobo who is a “riar” and has been full of “ries” her whole “rife” and still is” rying” Oh what a gas! He’s got Grace Slick singing of the rabbit hole; he’s got Lalas “trained brain” and “Keynote breakout” in his crosshairs! He’s a riot about the wobo and her use of glasses as a prop. “one pill make you larger”-the song say? Well, LaLa’s went to her behind! And the “small pill”….thats our JUAN, making the “smarmy” Alyce “small.”
      Oh, a distant cousin surely!

      • 04/16/2013 at 11:04 am

        he’s like a chinese european american accent it just adds to the hilarity!

      • 04/16/2013 at 11:05 am

        he’s got everything! what are the odds hey!!! amazing!!

  134. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 8:11 am

    Morning Syn – just got caught up with the comments, thought of you as I voted for the 2 Aussies on DWTS, (only watched Boston Maraton bombing coverage last night which really got to me cause that is way too close to home) and now off to watch the finale of Dallas before someone lets it slip what happened.

    Will catch up with everyone during commercials. *****waves******* and {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}

    • 04/16/2013 at 8:25 am

      Hi MMD ** waves**

  135. 04/16/2013 at 8:24 am

    More from Mikeee D (aka Robert) this time on the Ninja reflections

    • Pam
      04/16/2013 at 12:19 pm

      Thanks for Robert’s YouTube video…..needed some laughter today. He is vewey funny. Talks like Bugs Bunny….love him and his levity.

  136. 04/16/2013 at 8:37 am

    I reckon this is where wurmi got the idea from: (there’s heaps of these out there this is just one example the one I originally saw had her standing there with a knife.. yeah like he’d be sitting there like that if that was happening.. but anyhow… bozo trawls the net waaaaaay too much for an attorney in a DP Trial

  137. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 8:52 am

    Cool Dude!!! I luv dat guy!!
    Five High Fives for that one Syn, and ten !!!!!!!!!!

  138. 04/16/2013 at 8:54 am

    have to post this tooo Mikee D on the jury questions


  139. Wendy
    04/16/2013 at 8:55 am

    Good morning all you Juanderful people!!! 👋 Finally got the kiddos off to school now ready for this to get going. Sorry about the ranting yesterday. I will try to refrain from that today. 🙊😀

    • 04/16/2013 at 9:03 am

      Wendy ***waves*** if you want a laugh watch all the links to the Mikee D stuff Im on the 3rd omne at the moment and haven’t stopped laughing but careful I spat my coffee! watching the rejected jury questions at the moment!

  140. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 9:03 am

    Additional explanation for JMs stipulation:
    My detective cop buddies ( my eclectic LA dive-bar hangout attracts all kinds of people 😊) said part of the prosecutors reasoning for the stipulation was to keep Juan from discrediting the expert witness and his enhancement techniques because of present pending cases (the nurdy guy mentioned some, remember?) and future cases where the State may be using it/him.

    • 04/16/2013 at 9:11 am

      makes sense… but I think he can work with it anyhow. I think it helps him. We shall see. Well not helps him but will fit with his argument. So no harm in allowing it. Where wurmi thinks he’s going with it is anyones guess cos the guy reckons she’s standing and Jodi said she was kneeling… so he’s debased his own defendant far as I see it.

    • Jay
      04/16/2013 at 9:46 am

      legal Eagle question:
      If JM wants to call the eye enhancement witness to the stand to testify about other parts of his conclusions – ie, the camera angle of the photograph to establish TA was indeed sitting in the shower when it was taken — can he do that, and would the stipulated sketch still be excluded from jury view?

      • HJ Madison
        04/16/2013 at 10:33 am

        Jay: Great point about discrediting a state witness. JM had called the same guy earlier on the audio/sex tape issue.

        I don’t think the sketch, perse, was stipulated to. The stipulation was that JA is not holding a gun or knife when the photograph of TA was taken. It is now a fact in the case. The reflection in the eye ….. all that from yesterday …. is out.

      • Jim
        04/16/2013 at 10:34 am

        JM was concerned about being able to test/replicate this guy’s conclusions – and if you start asking him about his best guesses, then you get wurmi and all his crazy crap with it, plus, he was wurmi’s witness; not JM’s. I think JM made the very best decision about this guy that could be made, and I suspect it took a minute to try to figure out where wurmi was going with this, because it’s such a bone head thing to try to hold a scientific witness sans the actual science to evidence of this nature. (I saw mighty mouse when I looked at the pic). The stipulation puts wurmi back in his seat, so the rebuttal case can move forward, and JM really gave up nothing in the process, because it’s unreasonable to this that TA would stand still for the pics if she was HOLDING a weapon in her hand…..

      • Jim
        04/16/2013 at 10:39 am

        ***wurmi’s witness relative to the photo***

  141. Gracerv7
    04/16/2013 at 10:23 am

    So I was reading some FB support pages for travis last night and so many people are pulling for him and hoping jodi goes down for her crime. Even though she has her ONE stupid support group mostly I feel people see through her, even most of the men that comment. Anyways I was thinking how much this must kill her…she’s always sooooo worried about the image she projects. Plus, I always thought she was jealous of travis. He had a great family regardless of their early years, tons of friends, he seemed to always be going and seeing and doing and INFLUENCING, while she didn’t seem to be accomplishing that much. By her own words she wasn’t making it in Mesa: car getting repossessed, couldn’t hold a job, didn’t seem to have many true friends. Only one or two of her friends have even come forward to talk about the other “normal” jodi they knew. In no way am I defending her but that had to have been hard. Now she gets her revenge and destroys him while playing the victim and no one believes her and much of the support goes to travis. Even if she walked(which I don’t believe will happen!!! I don’t even like writing it!) this would have to make her miserable and royally piss her off! Don’t think she wouldn’t go around the net reading what everyone thought if her! Anyways I know that’s way off subject of his eye but had to share my thoughts!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 10:53 am

      Gracerv7- your comment yesterday about the wobo not wanting to “deedify” the Ninjas made me laugh out loud. Just had to say.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/16/2013 at 11:19 am

      I agree with you…it’ll totally get to JA. I mean, look how Casey Anthony is treated in this world…a complete pariah!

  142. 04/16/2013 at 10:41 am

    Tracey and Schaeffer check this out… with one thing from his comments

    Mikee Daniels 1 week ago
    Absolutely correct Kim, I got a little confused on that part of the video for the Santa Cruz / Monterey night stop over. She only briefly visited Darryl next morning after spending the night with Matt McCartney, and getting a bunch of money from one or both of them, and of course the infamous gas cans from Darryl.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 10:57 am

      Syntara my soul mate in snark–thanks for the Mike D “takes’ on all. he has this conspitatorial tone that ad andds to his analysis on the” riars”.

      • 04/16/2013 at 11:03 am

        still reckon it’s you 😛

    • Laine
      04/16/2013 at 11:59 am

      I love this, one of the best researched theories I’ve seen on YouTube.

  143. 04/16/2013 at 10:49 am

    Bubble checking in.

    Does anyone have or have a link to all the pictures in chronological order. Was wondering if the “surprised” photo was first.

  144. 04/16/2013 at 10:51 am

    Can Juan call Matt Mcartney in his rebuttal?

    • Jim
      04/16/2013 at 10:56 am

      He can, but I think JM scared the crap outta him (I know, right?) Probably get on the stand and be nothing but “I don’t remember/I don’t know”

      • NancyB
        04/16/2013 at 12:03 pm

        I think if he needs to he can play part of the taped meeting he had with him that he referred to when he was doing cross with Jodi.

  145. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 10:52 am

    Jim :
    ***wurmi’s witness relative to the photo***

    I stand corrected. My apologies.

    • Jim
      04/16/2013 at 10:59 am

      That wasn’t for you, HJ – I threw that in to avoid – well, anyway….

  146. 04/16/2013 at 10:59 am

    Jim, I would love to see the deconstruction of her Fetch it Boy. Would MM go for a perjury rap to protect her? I dunno. Really don’t know much about the guy…just a lackey for Arias…

    • Jim
      04/16/2013 at 11:03 am

      I agree BB – I just think JM is trying to wrap this up, and doesn’t want to give wurmi a chance on anything that isn’t just essential to JM…

  147. 04/16/2013 at 11:02 am

    Holy…that second one was a powerful f-ing bomb. I know it isn’t Arias related, but jesus…I’m kinda speechless…Soooooooo what time do we get started today?

    • Anonymous
      04/16/2013 at 11:14 am

      Supposed to be 12:30 your time.

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 11:15 am

      Supposed to be 12:30 your time.

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 11:15 am

      Well jury due back at 9:30 AZ time. According to KatieCoolLady (the inside trial watcher and TA family advocate) the ALV issue is over and done. JM should get started on rebuttal.

    • 04/16/2013 at 11:48 am

      Hi Bubble,
      What was a bomb? Tx

  148. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 11:12 am

    So sad about what’s going on in my hometown of Boston. It’s unbelievable that a happy event can so quickly turn into a tragedy like this. I spent yesterday morning, early afternoon, watching the race on TV, and then went out for a while, only to come home and turn on the TV and find out about this tragedy. Puts things into perspective, doesn’t it?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 11:31 am

      I have loved the big cities marathons my whole life. NY and LA and now Rotterdams. They are such great days. aside from the obvious anger and sadness at the event, I worry that future marathons will be gated off and watchers all checked up and down. Every time a bomb goes off, we lose some of our rights to gather in public. One guy, with a defunct bomb, has made over 40 million people take off their shoes in America before boarding a plane.When I travel I wear a tee shirt that says: The terrorists have won.

      • Lisa M
        04/16/2013 at 12:43 pm

        You wear a t-shirt that says the terrorists have won? You’re too much!! Don’t you worry you might get pulled off by security? I would think the sight of the word “terrorist” might set off alarms.
        And yes, it’s so sad, not only for the horrific loss of lives and limbs of so many people but thinking about what’s going to happen next year and I’m sure they’ll end up restricting the finish line area in some way.

  149. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 11:13 am

    Just wanted to say that, before I turned back to the trial. I have a question: does this stipulation made yesterday mean that the defense is finally resting??!! Please?!

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 11:16 am

      Let’s hope so!!

    • Jim
      04/16/2013 at 11:18 am

      Lawd, let’s hope so! I’m sure wurmi has spent the last 24 hours picking his nose and pulling his sweatpants out of his ass while he thinks about resting…

  150. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 11:15 am

    And I also just wanted to make another quick comment. When JM said the defense wants to put more pennies in their kettle, I thought it was very funny, but not sure exactly what he meant? Can anyone clarify as to the meaning of that expression?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 11:22 am

      well I thought he meant they were gragging this out so that they could get as many “pennies” from the State as possible.

    • Kathy A.
      04/16/2013 at 11:30 am

      My take on it was, since it has already cost taxpayers more than 1 million dollars to defend JA, Juan was asking why the defense was wasting time on issues that had already been decided, unless it was to keep raking in those pennies from the taxpayers.

    • Jay
      04/16/2013 at 11:54 am

      They’re making a lot of money for defending her. And as they’re employed ‘by’ the public defenders office they’re undoubtedly making more than the average wages there (Nurmi was on the payroll in Dec, 2009, at a salary of $90,438 (that’s for a 40 hour week, not including overtime, but now I think he’s operating as a free-lancer).

      I don’t know how much Nurmi and Willmott are being paid. I doubt it’s a flat fee. If hourly, it’s probably more that the median hourly for public defenders in Arizona,which in 2013 was around $77 an hour.

      A month ago taxpayer had already spent $838,00 for the defense . I don’t know how much of that went into the DTs pockets. The Great Seal of Arizona, the one we see before the live streaming video starts at the trial, says: DITAT DEUS (God Enriches). What it now should say is DITAT DEFENSE TEAM PLUS OVERTIME.

    • Crystal Harris
      04/16/2013 at 11:56 am

      Dragging out the days of the trial, which allows the Defense to continue to bill the state of AZ, and “add pennies to their kettle”.

      • Jay
        04/16/2013 at 12:15 pm

        Yup.. Too bad they don’t have an Office of Public Curmudgeon — then we all could get paid wages for what we’re doing for free..:)

      • Lisa M
        04/16/2013 at 12:48 pm

        That’s what I thought he was probably referring to also, but I thought it was a funny expression, pennies in their kettle. But I’m so glad that JM gave it back to them! Wurmi was so insulting towards him yesterday with his wining complaint about “the great one” and it was nice to see JM giving it right back to him and even better, of course.
        OH, and I think the latest tally was $1.4 million that the taxpayers have paid for the trial and that was a couple of weeks ago!

  151. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 11:21 am

    Syntara :
    still reckon it’s you

    Forgot to mention..I looked for you after the worm mentioned the “continuum” yesterday; apparently, your keyboard and your laughing clashed and stopped us sharing the laugh. He used th eword twice actually.Rabbit hole?

    • 04/16/2013 at 11:44 am

      yes i went to post the comment re continuum……and the bløødy page wouldn’t update!!

  152. Nienna
    04/16/2013 at 11:24 am


    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 11:44 am

      absolutely chilling to look at these as a group. Forcing the family to sit in the jury box is still gnawing at me.

      • 04/16/2013 at 11:56 am

        The worst thing about these is the attack may not have been only 62 seconds.. it could start at 5:30.30 then by 5:32:16 he has his throat slit but doesn’t look like he is shot then in the bigger version of these. so in actuality before he is shot the attack could have been going for 1:46 not 1:02

  153. PK
    04/16/2013 at 11:43 am

    How could TA have been stabbed first at 5:27:18 and not be out of the shower struggling with JA by 5:29:20 instead of standing for a face pic. Makes no sense to me.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 11:46 am

      I dont think any stabbing happened until; after the 5:29 pic.

      • Jay
        04/16/2013 at 11:59 am

        Not until after the 5:31:14 pic. He’s still sitting there, right? Which means he would have have to climb to his feet in a wet shower and scramble out to ‘body slam’ her — adding seconds less to cover her time line for running to the closet for the gun.

      • 04/16/2013 at 11:59 am

        nah 5:30:30 was likely as she went in and the camera swung and took the torso shot.. question is what was going on then wtf did he sit there for 1:10 seconds what was she saying to him I wonder

      • Jay
        04/16/2013 at 12:01 pm

        ‘reducing the numbers of seconds’ to cover her time line…

      • Jay
        04/16/2013 at 12:08 pm

        I don’t see that, Syn. How is she stabbing him and taking aimed photos of his arm and leg at the same time? No, stab or shot him after the 5:31:14 pic.

      • Douglme
        04/16/2013 at 12:12 pm

        Looks to me like his legs are crossed while he is in the sitting position in the shower and there appears to be a pool of blood at his butt area, so he could have been stabbed already.

      • Jay
        04/16/2013 at 12:21 pm

        Yes, but she stabbed him after the 5:31:14 pic. He’s still seated there. I don’t see any contradiction there.

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:01 pm

      hahahaha we cant even agree on it we all have a different take

      • Jay
        04/16/2013 at 12:11 pm

        🙂 Right. What’s that old saying: Opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one, and most of them don’t smell right!! (hope that image isn’t mentally offensive, and cause for a LaViolette charge of Blog Violence-Agression)…

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:16 pm

        I cant see her getting the knife into his chest unless he is seated.. she had to have done it then or he would have disarmed her.

      • Crystal Harris
        04/16/2013 at 12:33 pm

        All this totally undermines JA’s self-defense defense, because even if JA was threatened, she had a duty to first try to get away. If a man is wet and naked, Jodi had the advantage had she decided to run out of the bedroom and out the front door screaming. Travis wouldn’t have been able to follow her in the state he was in.

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:35 pm

        crystal seriously her defense is crap… what we are trying to do is work out a scenario for the stabbing we can all agree on and so far that ain’t even close!

  154. 04/16/2013 at 12:01 pm

    @Nienna, Thanks a bunch.

  155. 04/16/2013 at 12:03 pm

    Hey yall, is the show streaming? I’m watching HLN and it’s all Boston

  156. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 12:12 pm

    Good Morning. Sure hope rebuttal starts today

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:15 pm

      Morning. Me too!

  157. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 12:15 pm

    One thing we can all agree on is she blinded him with the flash and then began stabbing him.

  158. Dewey
    04/16/2013 at 12:17 pm

    Did I miss what happened with ALV? Is she appearing in court today for whatever her issue is?

    • LindaLou
      04/16/2013 at 12:28 pm

      Hi Dewey see NancyB’s post above. Currently #336.

  159. Wendy
    04/16/2013 at 12:18 pm

    I don’t see the blood. Maybe I need to look closer

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:19 pm

      I never saw any blood in the photos either.

    • Douglme
      04/16/2013 at 12:23 pm

      Maybe it is just a shadow???

  160. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Hi everyone. Hope JM gets started on his rebuttle today. I’m ready and waiting although I still can’t tear myself away from the bombing coverage. So sad. I certainly hope it wasn’t some homegrown “patriot” doing this on Patriots Day, which is always such a fun family day.

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:33 pm

      Hi MMD!

  161. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/16/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Syntara :
    I reckon this is where wurmi got the idea from: (there’s heaps of these out there this is just one example the one I originally saw had her standing there with a knife.. yeah like he’d be sitting there like that if that was happening.. but anyhow… bozo trawls the net waaaaaay too much for an attorney in a DP Trial

    Let’s be honest here…..If it were you and your attorney was supposed to be trying to save your life from a death penalty charge, wouldn’t it scare the hell out of you to know that he’s getting his facts off the “BoobTube” instead of researching Law books! How much you want to bet that JA files an appeal after she’s convicted for ineffective attorneys based on all of Nurm the Wurm’s research on Boob Tube!! Hah….what goes around comes around…..call it Karma!!

    Hell….this eye thing was put on Boob Tube months ago by someone else just toying around with the concept! And now this Big ol Boob goes and pulls it down and thinks that by having an “expert” present it makes it scientific evidence! HaH….WHAT A SAP!!

  162. 04/16/2013 at 12:20 pm

    Jay :
    I don’t see that, Syn. How is she stabbing him and taking aimed photos of his arm and leg at the same time? No, stab or shot him after the 5:31:14 pic.

    not not stabbing him as…. she lunges at him the camera swing from her strap around her neck (Chrissie argued this into the equation as she has experience with photography.. so its an incidental shot as she goes in with the knife… he lunges forward ie the linebacker crap.. knocks her to the ground, she hits her head on the tile he goes to the sink.. she comes to goes to stab him in the back as he’s over the basin… as she goes to do that cam takes the ceiling shot

    • Wendy
      04/16/2013 at 12:23 pm

      am I missing the blood?

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:25 pm

        theres no blood he’s not stabbed in any of the pics but the one where his throat is slashed as well.

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:23 pm

      Jay my thinkin against the other way ie your way is she wouldn’t have got the stab wound in his chest if he’s up and walking around. she designed the photo shoot to get him into that seated vulnerable position.

      Feel free to let me in on your thinking but that’s the only way it makes sense to me at this time and has remained as such for over a month now

    • Jay
      04/16/2013 at 12:39 pm

      Syn, even if on a strap, she has to click with fingers while securing the camera to take photo…

      Damn… the judge just called counsel back into chambers… another delay…
      I need a another wall to punch…(my favorite ‘time out’)

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:40 pm

        dot think its a deliberate shot Jay it doesnt fit the sequence that head shot fits directly onto that torso

  163. 04/16/2013 at 12:25 pm

    Also she may have used the flash to temporarily blind him

  164. 04/16/2013 at 12:28 pm

    Jay :
    Yes, but she stabbed him after the 5:31:14 pic. He’s still seated there. I don’t see any contradiction there.

    The contradiction is its the wrong angle form that to be the first attack… I think that’s more towards the unforeseen attack when he has made it to then basin already bleeding

  165. 04/16/2013 at 12:33 pm

    Jay exactly where are those lights that the ceiling shot is.. are they over the shower or more towards the basin?

    • Jay
      04/16/2013 at 12:35 pm

      Don’t know Syn… get that eye-enrichment guy to photo shop the pic..:)

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:39 pm

        nah just need a layout of the bathroom and the positioning of those lights juan stepped through it with the forensics woman Ill check tomorrow

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:44 pm

      Syn… Believe they are in between the shower and bathtub. The wall in the photo is the wall that separates the shower and tub.

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:45 pm

        tat’s what I thought thankyou

      • Nienna
        04/16/2013 at 12:50 pm

        Still don’t understand how in the midst of the struggle his robe was never knocked down from right beside the shower. Even in her imaginary body slam story, you would think it would have been.

      • 04/16/2013 at 12:55 pm

        the towels too.. seems like she put clean ones out. I think part of her original plan she just stuck to… she’s so illogical it defies belief anyone can do such stupid things.

  166. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 12:33 pm

    WildAboutTrial just reported Nurmi’s socks are black and salmon striped… are we desperate to start or what ? 🙂

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:40 pm

      Wild always gives the fashion run down. He’s obsessed with salmon these days! 🙂

  167. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:38 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Judge Stephens just called counsel back into chambers

  168. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:40 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Counsel just came out of the hallway just now aka “chambers”. Jenkasaurus just arrived in a colorful striped number

    Well, let’s get going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  169. SCK
    04/16/2013 at 12:41 pm

    Good morning….I’m just getting caught up on the vids from yesterday. Judge Stephens said there was a closed proceeding yesterday at 1:15 that involved LaToilet. Does anyone know what it was about and the outcome??

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:42 pm

      I read somewhere that she is done with testimony. Haven’t found anyone who knows what it was about.

      • SCK
        04/16/2013 at 12:56 pm

        Glad to hear we won’t have to listen to her anymore – but I would have loved to know that she was sanctioned for approaching Samantha.

  170. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:42 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Beth Karas is here in a full on salmon outfit. We are waiting for the judge to come back

  171. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:43 pm

    Ya’d think after what the jurors went through yesterday they would want to get things started on time today!!!!!!

  172. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:43 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I have not seen Alyce yet but she usually chills in the back room before making an entrance anyhow.

    I thought she was done????????????

  173. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 12:44 pm

    Syn – did you see the Mikeee D video where is the beginning he calls Jodi a pacifist and next second he flashes gun & knife — it was LOL big time. Doesn’t translate well to the written word.

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:51 pm

      ROFL yes!!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:52 pm

      he stole my brain!!! he has extra talents though

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:53 pm

      Nancy im going to post the Jodi Arias for Dummies after Trial and after we digest Donchais’ recap. Did you watch that? its FAQ he gets from stoopid people

  174. Douglme
    04/16/2013 at 12:45 pm

    I can’t believe it is so difficult to get started on time every day?

  175. 04/16/2013 at 12:45 pm

    oops gotta go make a special vodka mix! oh plse lawd let Juan be up soon!!!

  176. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:46 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I still predict at 10:00 am start time but it could start any minute

    Sadly he’s usually pretty accurate 😦

  177. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:47 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi and Flores are up visiting the stapler lady while we wait for the Judge and #JodiArias

  178. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:48 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I will start a blog on wildabouttrial.com that will detail all of the questions about Salmon, code words, nick names and inside info

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:52 pm


  179. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:50 pm

    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 5m
    @flynnkc Salmon has taken off since the start of this trial. I do see mostly salmon colors though

  180. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:50 pm

    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 42s
    Counsel is headed back to chambers. Stay tuned.

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 12:52 pm

      Ugh! Come on!!

  181. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:55 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Counsel is back, I expect the judge to come in soon. Juan, Flores and Nurmi are back up by stapler lady stapling away

    But where is JA?????????????????

  182. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 12:55 pm

    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m
    I noticed Costco increased their stock of salmon colored clothing last time I was in there getting filets. Way to go costco


  183. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 12:55 pm

    Morning all 😀 In chambers AGAIN????Ugh!

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:58 pm


      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 1:01 pm

        Morning Girl! I saw the vids when I scrolled up. Haven’t viewed them yet but looking forward to it.

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:02 pm

        and tomorrow will be wobo for dummies! not to be missed courts upp

    • 04/16/2013 at 12:59 pm

      Trace wait til you meet Mikee D you are gonna split your sides!

  184. Kathy A.
    04/16/2013 at 12:56 pm

    Lisa M :
    That’s what I thought he was probably referring to also, but I thought it was a funny expression, pennies in their kettle. But I’m so glad that JM gave it back to them! Wurmi was 22so insulting towards him yesterday with his wining complaint about “the great one” and it was nice to see JM giving it right back to him and even better, of course.
    OH, and I think the latest tally was $1.4 million that the taxpayers have paid for the trial and that was a couple of weeks ago!

    I agree that it was good to see Juan throw it back at them…did you see how insulted JW looked when Juan made the “pennies in the kettle” remark?

  185. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 12:57 pm

    so much for starting at 9:30! (again)

  186. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 12:59 pm

    Here we go….

    • Jay
      04/16/2013 at 1:00 pm


  187. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:00 pm

    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 29s
    #JodiArias is here in a whiteish creamy top. Judge is here, Valerie has left to get the jury.

    And away we go – finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  188. 04/16/2013 at 1:00 pm

    yay the seals gone… boooooooooo at the bench sheesh!!!!

  189. 04/16/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Perky needs a better hairdresser! badly!

  190. 04/16/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Shocker! Trial didn’t start @ 9:30am on time!! I think Nurmi delays the start time, so he can file a motion for a mistrial because the judge didn’t start trial on time!!!!

  191. 04/16/2013 at 1:02 pm

    Good Morning All!!!

  192. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:03 pm

    JA is awfully smiley today!!! Wonder what gives!!!!

  193. 04/16/2013 at 1:03 pm

    The defense what???……Rests????

  194. 04/16/2013 at 1:03 pm

    shes perky’s bald spot is blinding!

  195. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:04 pm

    THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  196. 04/16/2013 at 1:04 pm


  197. 04/16/2013 at 1:04 pm


  198. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:04 pm

    WooHoo! Here comes Juan and Janeen….

  199. 04/16/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Imknew it!!!!!!!! yay

  200. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:05 pm

    Already see the dagger eyes from JA…love it!

  201. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 1:05 pm

    on no. a jodi haircut

  202. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:05 pm

    Ok Defense rests!

  203. 04/16/2013 at 1:06 pm

    woohooo sooooo wanting to hear this witness1!!!

  204. Nienna
    04/16/2013 at 1:06 pm

    JA is completely uninterested!!

    • kristin
      04/16/2013 at 5:20 pm

      I want to slap the shit out of JA. Its like she is trying to disrespect Janeen by ignoring her. Grow the f*ck up!!!! I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that noticed it right off the bat!

  205. 04/16/2013 at 1:07 pm

    wow impressive!

  206. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Old Juanster makes a booboo twice referring to Univ of Michigan rather than Michigan State!

  207. 04/16/2013 at 1:09 pm

    Syn, cheers. Bottoms up.

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:11 pm

      cheers!!!!!! *bottoms up^ back @ ya!

  208. 04/16/2013 at 1:10 pm

    she’s smart!

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:17 pm

      Hi Syn! I know right! Me like-y her a lot!!!

  209. 04/16/2013 at 1:11 pm

    Man, her bona fides blows the defense out of the water already.

  210. 04/16/2013 at 1:12 pm

    continuum cheers! * bottoms up*

  211. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:13 pm

    So glad that we never have to see ALV EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

  212. 04/16/2013 at 1:13 pm

    Look at Jodi bothering Wilmott with her notes and objections. Oh, Here Come Da Judge…

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:15 pm

      remember Jodi lists psychology and quantum physics as her interests so she’s got this covered with her trained Einstein brain.

  213. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:13 pm

    Hope she rots in the hell she created for herself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  214. 04/16/2013 at 1:13 pm

    Im soooo happy!

  215. Schaeffer
    04/16/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Good dig at ALV. JW was pissed.

  216. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Wow she’s about wobo’s age, better looking,smarter, accomplished. Wobo is coloring her coloring book during this.

    • NapaNonnie
      04/16/2013 at 6:26 pm


  217. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:15 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    It appears Dr. Janeen has attended the Jennifer Willmott School of Speed Talking. She is a quick one.

    At least she’s not squeaky like Gidget!!!

  218. 04/16/2013 at 1:15 pm

    I’d dare Jodi Hates this woman with a passion. A smarter, better looking, Woman!

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:17 pm


    • Marilyn N
      04/16/2013 at 1:18 pm

      That’s why she is ignoring her.
      Busy with her art or other paperwork.

  219. 04/16/2013 at 1:16 pm

    zegactly sista!!!!!

  220. 04/16/2013 at 1:16 pm

    pick something outta the air….ooh…like…PTSD!!! Love him!!!!! LOL!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:19 pm

      oooh domestic violence lets pick all the 135467 lies that support it

  221. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:16 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I see a few jurors taking notes as Juan discusses evaluation techniques with Dr. Janeen.

  222. 04/16/2013 at 1:17 pm

    RnR Jinx, we thought the same thing

  223. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:18 pm

    Donoman in court and looking likle Cartman.

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:21 pm

      ROFL!!! There goes another laptop! Need to get a snort-proof laptop!! Just snorted green tea all over my laptop!!

    • janeto
      04/16/2013 at 1:40 pm

      OMG!!! GOTTA GET A NEW PHONE NOW TOO!!! Thanks Robert! ROFLMAO!!!!!

  224. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 1:18 pm

    JA totally tuning out!!

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 1:22 pm

      Well … afterall… Jodi is SOOOO much smarter! Why bother listening! I bet she is drawing a masterpiece!

      • kristin
        04/16/2013 at 5:22 pm


  225. 04/16/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Damn! Juan bringing the hammer!!!!! Concise and to the point!!!!!

  226. katz63md
    04/16/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Oh happy day! I hear the ripping of ALV to pieces going on right now and its getting LOUDER!

  227. Schaeffer
    04/16/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Juan is making it very clear the defense’s “expert” witnesses were both under-qualified, if not unqualified, and they did not maintain the objective stance required. I hope the jury is catching all these points.

  228. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Ya just knew that he was gonna have someone who would crush the def. exp witnesses!

  229. 04/16/2013 at 1:20 pm

    nooooooooooooo hehehehe hahahahaha

  230. 04/16/2013 at 1:21 pm

    LOLOL shes gonna laugh soon!

  231. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:21 pm

    LOL! Laws of Attraction LOL!

  232. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:22 pm

    the laws of attraction! She thinks its like a horoscope–put out “positivity”

  233. 04/16/2013 at 1:22 pm


  234. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Willmott could talk about the secret law of attraction but doesn’t want JM discussing it?
    Right, Willie!

  235. 04/16/2013 at 1:23 pm

    told ya she laughed!

  236. 04/16/2013 at 1:23 pm

    The Law of Attraction, is that taught as a course?, “What is the secret?”

  237. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:23 pm

    ok 86 the “laws of attraction”

  238. 04/16/2013 at 1:24 pm

    hahahaha Jodi is throwing daggers through her eyes

  239. Pam
    04/16/2013 at 1:24 pm

    Whooo….Hodi has eye makeup on today. Defense figures they better get her gussied up cause nothing else is going to help her. She can use her beauty(blah!) on the jurors…probably show up as a blonde tomorrow!
    Love this witness..

  240. 04/16/2013 at 1:24 pm


  241. 04/16/2013 at 1:24 pm

    40 hours??? wtf??? Extreme!!! Love her!!

  242. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:25 pm

    44 hours! extreme she says! Another case of somneone taking their pennies!

  243. 04/16/2013 at 1:25 pm


  244. 04/16/2013 at 1:25 pm

    here we go!

  245. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 1:26 pm

    love it love it!!

  246. Pam
    04/16/2013 at 1:26 pm

    Juan is throwing Lavolette down the la toilette!

  247. Nienna
    04/16/2013 at 1:26 pm

    LOL. F’n love JM!! Why didn’t you apologize to her?!

  248. 04/16/2013 at 1:26 pm

    Can you say breath of fresh prosecution air!!! I am feeling really good about her! Can you imagine how TA’s family must be feeling right now??

  249. 04/16/2013 at 1:26 pm

    EXACTLY thank you!!!!!!

  250. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:26 pm

    she didnt ‘apologige” to th eperson she’s examining! (Alyce???)

  251. Schaeffer
    04/16/2013 at 1:27 pm

    Juan is able to impeach WOBO, ALV, and Samuels all in one fell swoop, all while establishing the qualifications and expertise of Dr. DeMarte. He is brilliant.

  252. 04/16/2013 at 1:27 pm

    *dancin* *dancin*

  253. 04/16/2013 at 1:27 pm

    Why didn’t you apologize?!11!!! Oh my hehehehehehe

  254. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Syn – sounds like she’s preaching your song!!!!! 🙂

  255. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Perky is looking at the Doc thinking, poop, this one’s a sharpie

  256. 04/16/2013 at 1:28 pm

    hahahhahahha uyes yes yes !!! Thankyou!!! a sane psychologist !!!

  257. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:28 pm

    I love that Juan comes on strong with his own witness. Shows he’s not BIASED towards defense witnesses.

  258. 04/16/2013 at 1:29 pm

    Alycd you’re being flushed AGAIN!!!!!!! Drink up Bubble!!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:39 pm

      Syn….so we drink when crappy defense witnesses are up….and now we are drinking because a good prosecution witness is up…..Sooooo? We….just …drink?? Yippee!! Bottoms up!!

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:40 pm

        drinking to celebrate PTTD releasing from my body!!

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:41 pm

        Post Traumatic Testimony Disorder

      • 04/16/2013 at 1:43 pm

        Syn….lol….luv u gurl!!!

  259. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 1:29 pm

    Oh, snap!

  260. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:29 pm

    Gidget’s getting her undies in a twist. I truly hope that ALV is watching this!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL Maybe she could learn something!!!

  261. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 1:30 pm

    JA copying something!?!

  262. 04/16/2013 at 1:30 pm

    Uh oh, Jodi told Wilmott to object

  263. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 1:30 pm

    OMG! WOBO is just her eager little beaver self over there ….. what is she drawing today??? Eager little beaver … eager little AH

  264. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Mama Arias and DonoMAN don’t look too happy!

  265. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:32 pm

    wobo can’t even stand to look at her; she’s the type real men go after and not her!

  266. 04/16/2013 at 1:32 pm


  267. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:33 pm

    Approach??? For what??? Sit your Spanx clad ass down Perky…you’ve wasted enough time on your phony delay tactics!!

  268. 04/16/2013 at 1:33 pm

    This is a beautiful thing! I object your honor!
    Beacause this is devastating my client!


  269. 04/16/2013 at 1:34 pm

    exactly!!!!!!! thank you again!!!!!

  270. commerce1
    04/16/2013 at 1:34 pm

    God! I love it!

    Juan: Exactly when did you apologize to the defendant for reading her journals?

    Witness (with a look of confusion on her face): (Paraphrasing) I didn’t. It would be odd and inappropriate to apologize for reading them. It would seem you had an inappropriate relationship with the subject.

  271. Schaeffer
    04/16/2013 at 1:35 pm

    WOBO is drawing voodoo dolls and devising spells. Her hate for Dr. DeMarte is palpable, even through the screen. I would love to see a videotape of that entire evaluation.

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:36 pm


  272. Wendy
    04/16/2013 at 1:36 pm

    DT not smiling now. Lol!!

  273. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:36 pm

    wobo coloring; cant stand to look at the good looking, smart doc!

  274. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 1:36 pm

    omg whiney just trip already!

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:38 pm

      oh wouldnt that be great!!? 😀

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 1:43 pm

      OMG! What I wouldn’t give to see her do a face plant in open court! LMAO!

  275. 04/16/2013 at 1:37 pm

    next sketch to ebay Janeen demarte with knives stuck in her

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:39 pm


    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 1:40 pm


  276. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:38 pm

    I think JA is doing yet another rewrite of her journals…

  277. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Does the def get to do cross on the rebuttle witnesses???????

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 1:40 pm

      Oh hell yes ….should be great! She can hold her own!

  278. Wendy
    04/16/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Go Juan!!!!!!!! I am loving this!!!

  279. 04/16/2013 at 1:39 pm

    The jury sees that Juan’s trying to wrap it up. Now the defense is just wasting Their time.

    • Marilyn N
      04/16/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Like they didn’t already waste 2-3 weeks with their hoaky analysts?
      Total waste of both time and $$$$$$$$’s.

  280. 04/16/2013 at 1:39 pm

    yayaya!!! I can leave the rabbit hole for a bit!!! what a relief!!

  281. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:39 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    #JodiArias continues to keep busy with her writing or drawing as we are in sidebar

    Maybe she’s rewriting her manifesto 😉

    • janeto
      04/16/2013 at 1:48 pm

      LOL! Maybe she trying to figure out how she can now look like Dr. Beautiful!!!!! Baaahaaa!!!

  282. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:41 pm

    LOL!! Jinx Wild About Trial

  283. Wendy
    04/16/2013 at 1:41 pm

    I wish the doofus squad would just sit down and take their whoopin’.

  284. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Hmmm…where are JA’s hideous glasses today.

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:44 pm

      she forgot them

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:31 pm

      You!re right Tracy. No glasses. She also looks liks she may have some make on eyes and cheeks.

  285. 04/16/2013 at 1:42 pm

    wtf is wobo copying from that other book

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:43 pm

      translating her diary?

  286. LindaLou
    04/16/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Notice how DeMarte is looking straight ahead instead of trying to listen in. What class! Unlike Samuels & ALV.

  287. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:43 pm

    dept of collataral info: one of wobo’s “favorite books” (on her blog) was “”The Richest Man in Babylon”–I kid you not!

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:46 pm

      hahahahaha OMG!

  288. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Dr J. (luv using that abbreviation!) better have good kidneys.. she’s been sipping water constantly during this long long long long bench conference.

  289. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Gidget must have given JA a lesson to keep her occupied today. Please copy this page to this page.

  290. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:45 pm

    Oh man! wobo cant take it! she gotta color and write! She can’t stand that this woman is everything she isn’t. Not a HS dropout or a place to place waitress or a hanger-on to men! Hahahahah Love IT!

  291. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 1:45 pm

    No specs today, either.
    Oh I just want to smack her!!!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:46 pm

      No speds cos she’s got makeup on!!! They’d hide her makeup!

  292. Grace
    04/16/2013 at 1:45 pm

    Someone who doesn’t speak out of their ass

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:48 pm

      hahah yes and I’m dancing!!! so relieved

  293. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 1:46 pm

    Hey … no glasses today on the WOBO

  294. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 1:46 pm

    She just scratched some cooties out of her head!!

  295. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 1:47 pm

    When JM asked Demarte to identify the defendant she should have said, she’s that woman over there who is sketching.

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 1:49 pm

      ROFLMAO. Thanks!

    • kristin
      04/16/2013 at 5:26 pm

      Too funny!!

  296. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 1:47 pm

    the ho can’t even looked up! she KNOWS she’s screwed!!

  297. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:48 pm

    This is ridiculous!!! Come on Judge…keep it moving already!

  298. Schaeffer
    04/16/2013 at 1:48 pm

    WOBO has had her glasses off all morning. I think it’s because she is trying to look “pretty” next to Dr. DeMarte. She also spent the entire day yesterday running her fingers through her hair. She knows she is losing big time, so she is falling back on her seductress tactics. (Here’s a clue, WOBO: it won’t work, ever.)

  299. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Oh, how funny, the girl in the parody video of Jodi is on HLN, and she’s a really pretty blonde!

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 1:52 pm

      They’re showing the entire interview on Friday at 1 ET

  300. 04/16/2013 at 1:50 pm

    dammit my stream is jumpy

  301. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:50 pm

    wobo is “pretending” SHE’s a doctor and filling out forms; lots and lots of paperwork!hahahahTweet that you little moron!

  302. 04/16/2013 at 1:51 pm

    wow this is huge!!!!

  303. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:51 pm

    Who is Dr. Carp??????????????

  304. katz63md
    04/16/2013 at 1:51 pm

    must have missed it but who is dr. carp?

  305. Nienna
    04/16/2013 at 1:52 pm

    Aunt still isn’t here?

  306. 04/16/2013 at 1:52 pm

    she’s faking tests!!!! this is HUGE

  307. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:53 pm

    OMG!!! JA LIED??? Well, this is the first I’m hearing of this…LOL!

    • Marilyn N
      04/16/2013 at 1:55 pm

      Lala and Samuels gave her the ideas.

    • 04/16/2013 at 1:56 pm

      think that is what happened yes we are all shocked aren’t we?

  308. 04/16/2013 at 1:54 pm

    Dr Carp must have gone in and given a specific test for PTSD Jodi asnwered how she thought would get her the result she wanted ie she faked it

  309. 04/16/2013 at 1:54 pm

    Anybody smell that? Cooked goose. Heh Heh Heh Heh

  310. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Hope the jury is taking BIG note of JA totally ignoring this testimony.

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 2:24 pm

      Yep, she’s trying desperately to ignore it, sketching away, as a way to comfort herself but if you look at her face, you can tell she is quite upset. She even gave a little half smile when DeMarte mentioned she examined aspects of Jodi’s life, including her education (or lack of it) but it wasn’t the cocky smirk she usually gives. She’s very embarrassed and probably furious!

  311. Nienna
    04/16/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Wow! So this is what an expert witness is? LOL!! She’s organized, it’s refreshing!

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:01 pm

      see why Im dancin :F

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 2:48 pm

      So refreshing!! Someone with intelligence and common sense is FINALLY sitting on the witness stand!

  312. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Wow! She came prepared! Unlike, well you know…

  313. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 1:57 pm

    love it love it wobo can’t even look at the doc! She’s “writing”

  314. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 1:57 pm

    Wow, someone who actually brings their data !!!!!!!!! unheard of in this trial…………..

  315. 04/16/2013 at 1:59 pm

    so far she hasn’t needed to reference any definitions or notes or no dogs have eaten her homework…. her desk hasn’t been needed submitted as evidence.

  316. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 2:00 pm

    JA must have some type of ignoring syndrome going on now…….

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 2:31 pm

      Yes, it’s part of her PTSD-TSPE! Post traumatic stress disorder triggered on by smart pretty expert

  317. 04/16/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Hey, Jodi! Over here! The witness is over here!

  318. 04/16/2013 at 2:01 pm

    LOLOL Dr Dodgy

  319. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Wonder if JA’s attention will change when Perky Willie gets up there??

  320. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Hahahah perky says hey! dont call Dodgy “mister” he’s a “doctor”

    • stephanie
      04/16/2013 at 2:07 pm

      Do you notice how sarcastic Jaun is saying “Dr. Dodgy” now? It’s quite funny

  321. 04/16/2013 at 2:03 pm

    uh oh lol

  322. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 2:04 pm

    The bubble sheet …. but Jodi’s pens were covered in shampoo 😦 Poor Jodi

  323. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Pay attention willmott and worm, you might learn something……

  324. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:04 pm

    the dodgy’s way of working was a loser!

  325. 04/16/2013 at 2:04 pm

    hahaha yes the ninjas…. specific trauma……. INVALID

    no retest

  326. Grace
    04/16/2013 at 2:05 pm

    JA is wearing her Dr. Freud persona lol

  327. 04/16/2013 at 2:05 pm


  328. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 2:05 pm

    lololol object to “mr” instead of Dr. love how Juan then said “dooooooctorrr” Ho totally tuning out! ahhhh yesssssss to JUSTICE!!!

  329. 04/16/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Heh Heh Heh…Jodi’s too busy to look up. She has important paperwork to do.

  330. 04/16/2013 at 2:05 pm

    thank you thank you thank you!!!

  331. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:06 pm

    God I love him – he is soooooooooooooo good at this!!!!! 🙂

  332. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 2:06 pm

    “Truth!!! You can’t handle the truth!!!!”

  333. 04/16/2013 at 2:06 pm


  334. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:06 pm

    only one at the defense tabl;e looking at the doc is wormi and he’s thinking “what are my chances with her?”

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 2:07 pm

      as if LOL

  335. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Oh Gidget so indignent!

  336. Wendy
    04/16/2013 at 2:07 pm

    YES! YES! YES!!!!!!!!

  337. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Whhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttttttttttttt Gidget didn’t like the word lie being used to refer to a self proclaimed liar to everyone!!!!!!!!!! ROFL

  338. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Liar Liar Pants On Fire !! 🙂

  339. 04/16/2013 at 2:07 pm

    I love the sweet smell of validation!

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 2:08 pm

      well you’re getting lots of it today Syn!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:09 pm


  340. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:07 pm

    she said the Dodge’s test had “no validity”

  341. 04/16/2013 at 2:08 pm

    If you are grinning ear to ear you must drink! Bottoms up…….

  342. 04/16/2013 at 2:08 pm

    MMD yes! she is singing my song 😀

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 2:09 pm

      and I bet ya thought we weren’t listening or learning from you!!!!! 😉

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:12 pm


    • 04/16/2013 at 2:13 pm

      Noticed no glasses today, yet. This young lady is do articulate. So nice to hear someone who knows what she is talking about. New for the DT’s.

      Was that Wormi sitting up in his chair????

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:14 pm

        she has makeup on… glasses would ruin her beauty Vickee 😛

  343. Pam
    04/16/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Jodi decided to lie…..bwahahahaha. That sure got perky’s panties in a twist. I can’t believe that Perky actually believes WOBO….Perky got too caught up in the lies.

  344. Grace
    04/16/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Would you guys write me a note so I don’t have to go to work?

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:10 pm

      LOL I will! it’s refreshing isn’t it Grace

      • Grace
        04/16/2013 at 2:16 pm

        Oh yeah…. now I can stop hitting myself in the head with my DSM IV

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:15 pm

      Sure Grace~~will say you have a fever!! (spring fever). Mom would do that for me in school.

  345. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Whoa! Gidget upset that the doc said wobo lied on the test!

  346. Family of Law
    04/16/2013 at 2:10 pm

    I love the TWO JM’s! “No, it only indicates that Ms. Arias lied on another test”! Perky and Wurmi shot out of their seats like their pants were afire!

    • Family of Law
      04/16/2013 at 2:12 pm

      Oops, I guess the other one I love is actually JD (sorry, I have lots of catching up to do!)

  347. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Jodi’s writing her last will and testament..
    Leaving all her worldly good to Donovan.
    And the mummified bent finger to Juan as a final gesture of defiance.

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:12 pm


  348. janeto
    04/16/2013 at 2:11 pm

    HLN has not SEEN bombshell till today!!! Ok everyone, all together now……… JUANDERFUL!!!! KICK SOME ARSE!!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 2:14 pm

      hey! janeto-you blue or green?

      • janeto
        04/16/2013 at 2:24 pm

        WHO F’N knows!! Tomorrow might be RED!! WTF???

      • janeto
        04/16/2013 at 2:27 pm

        I lost live feed!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! HELLO Robert!!! Good day for TA n family today!!!!! Finally !aa

  349. 04/16/2013 at 2:11 pm

    ohn thats rich only answer the question!!!! wtf have we been hearing????

  350. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 2:11 pm

    oh that is great!! she says the ho chose to lie on the test!! i think ho is re-writing her court log books. i think she knows they are going to be confinscated, so she has to re-write them.

  351. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:12 pm

    wobo couldn’t spin his doc; Dodge and LaLa wanted to make a buck; this doc just doing her job; she wouldn’t be impressed by wobo’s cooing or talking about arms and legs tied! been there, done that!

  352. 04/16/2013 at 2:14 pm

    hahahahahaha trying to manipulate the data oops!

  353. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:14 pm

    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial
    Did Nurmi install an eject button on Willmott’s chair because I swear she got a few feet of air on the last objection

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:18 pm

      I bet, she is wound a little too tight today.

  354. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:16 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan is very careful to make a point of emphasizing “DOCTOR” when he refers to Dr. Samuels, a few snickers are heard

  355. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:16 pm

    Juan says “doctor” Samuels with eels running out of his mouth

  356. 04/16/2013 at 2:16 pm

    hahaha Grace thats our answer!

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:19 pm

      that was the 4 to 6 change omg I knew it! Dr Dodgy fudged it to up her criteria to significant. wow malpractice!!!

    • Grace
      04/16/2013 at 2:19 pm

      oops Syn ~ missed it

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:20 pm

        remeber the 6-4 chnage we talked about its significance and that was after all the other changes. the erased 4 with the 6 over it

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:21 pm

        oops 4-6 rather

  357. 04/16/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Wait a minute! How come we havn’t heard the words KY, Astroglide, or Anal Sex yet!

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:24 pm

      Bubble behave! We are dealing with a grown up on the stand now! 😀

  358. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Why would someone rescore a test? Well, the Dodge had the hots for wobo!

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:25 pm

      and he wanted the money!

  359. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 2:18 pm

    There is a pretty woman with a very high IQ in the courtroom but she’s definitely not sitting at the defense table!

  360. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:20 pm

    JA blatantly ignoring this witness has been laughing. It’s so friggin’ obvious!!!

  361. 04/16/2013 at 2:20 pm

    Willy is way beyond absurd today!!!!

  362. 04/16/2013 at 2:20 pm

    Okay, Now there’s a 6969, here we…waitaminute… and she said final, I misheard her in my eagerness

  363. WhereIsSHE
    04/16/2013 at 2:20 pm

    What is the POSSIBLE basis for this objection?? The witness answered a question (that was NOT objected to), concluded her answer, and then Juan was only into the first few words–if that–of his next question, which did NOT indicated anything about the content of what he was even going to ASK!


    The judge has got to stop this utter nonsense.

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:27 pm

      You tell em!!

  364. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:22 pm

    oh there goes Gidget again. She HASD to slow the Juansters rhythm

  365. 04/16/2013 at 2:22 pm

    Damn, Jodi will not even LOOK at her!

  366. 04/16/2013 at 2:23 pm

    LOL! exactly thank you again… she should Not have been tested against pre diagnosed group

  367. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Gidget can mind read now. She knows what Juan was gonna say!

  368. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:25 pm

    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial
    Willmott is quick with the “jection judge, mweee proach?”. Sidebar.

  369. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:25 pm

    Did Perky just say “lack of knowledge in re: of this witness??? Now I have heard it ALL!

  370. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:26 pm

    Ya notice that Janeen DeMarte doesn’t insist on being called doctor 😉

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:30 pm

      cos she is comfortable in her skin doesn’t need semantics.

  371. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Wilmott’s frowny face is really frowny today! 😦 🙂

  372. 04/16/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Dr. D must be thinking during these sizzlin’ sidebars…..I would love to get my hands on WOBO so I can dissect her weird courtroom behavior! She must be equivalent of the holy grail for you guys, huh Syn?

  373. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:27 pm

    laLa no test, no report, subjective.

  374. 04/16/2013 at 2:28 pm

    not days and days and days and days of irrelevant testimony halleluyah praise the lord!!!

  375. 04/16/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Jodi to Wilmott: Do you have a Navy Blue over there…

  376. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:29 pm

    giving books and “gifts” are “inappropriate” (Doc Dodge? LaLa?)

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:32 pm

      and could influence the witness ie Dr Dodgy gave her fog la violette gave her encouragement to play victim

  377. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:31 pm

    ALV “mis-characterized ” her OWN testimony. STFU Perky!!!

  378. stephanie
    04/16/2013 at 2:31 pm

    So I have a question for you legal experts out there. When the defense and prosecutors psychologist go and interview JA does she know what side of the of they are on. So she doesn’t play up to one or the other.

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 2:34 pm

      She knows.

  379. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 2:33 pm

    whiney!! get a clue! all these objections make you look like the idiot you are!! gonna backfire on ya!! wahhhhh whoooo
    let the witness speak, just as Juan allowed yours to!

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:34 pm

      makes her look desperate

  380. 04/16/2013 at 2:34 pm

    “Overruled..you may answer!”…..Keep ’em coming, Judge!!!

  381. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:34 pm

    Gidget up again. Judge wacks the mole!

  382. Elexa
    04/16/2013 at 2:34 pm

    That’s not Navy, that’s Cornflower Blue! I wanted Navy! SLASH STAB SLASH!!!

  383. 04/16/2013 at 2:35 pm

    ahem… calls her Miss rias NOT Jodi

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:36 pm


  384. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:36 pm

    She gave the rat the rhat

  385. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 2:36 pm

    OMG…. could she read? Oh I bet WOBO went crazy!

  386. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:37 pm

    seems to me that the lawyers involved ought to know what foundations have been laid; I mean they all know when wobo’s been laid, how about the foundations?.

  387. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:37 pm

    IQ Test Results coming

  388. WhereIsSHE
    04/16/2013 at 2:38 pm

    “Above average” does not = GENIUS

  389. 04/16/2013 at 2:38 pm

    what did Perky object to?

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 2:40 pm

      Absolutely nothing

  390. WhereIsSHE
    04/16/2013 at 2:39 pm

    What was her score?? I couldn’t quite hear it.

  391. 04/16/2013 at 2:40 pm

    119 lol that’s it? so she must have been low in something if she was high in dictionary reading

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:41 pm

      was it 119 or 118??? wasnt sure which she said but it was low considering dictionary reading was 136

  392. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 2:40 pm

    I am so surprised WOBO is ignoring these IQ results! Maybe because the MMPI is going to show her as a sociopath!

  393. Grace
    04/16/2013 at 2:40 pm

    MMPI ~ BaZing!!!!!!!
    We be dancin Syn

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:42 pm

      this will be interesting!!!

  394. Elexa
    04/16/2013 at 2:41 pm

    LOL 119 is not genius!

  395. 04/16/2013 at 2:41 pm

    @Elexa…LOL, and I don’t just LOL. That was good.

    Anyone ever seen Cable Guy? The trial/subplot: The trial of Stanton Sweet: “It was a coupla Asian guys…I think they were Asiaaaaaan”

  396. Jane
    04/16/2013 at 2:41 pm

    Jenny looking at keeps looking @ Jodi to save he ass.

  397. LindaLou
    04/16/2013 at 2:41 pm

    Speaking of jerk,….enter Wilmott.

  398. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 2:42 pm

    The heat is definitely Juan today!

  399. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:42 pm

    OMG… she will be diagnosed as a Jerk!

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 7:43 pm


  400. WhereIsSHE
    04/16/2013 at 2:42 pm

    fyi: you have to score 140 at least in order to be considered “genius” or “near genius”

  401. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 2:43 pm

    Appears to be in her “Einstein” personality at present…….

  402. Elexa
    04/16/2013 at 2:43 pm

    I can’t see WoBo’s bored, disinterested act endearing her any to the jury.


    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 2:45 pm

      Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 She’s too stupid to realize that she’s pissing the jury off!

      • Elexa
        04/16/2013 at 2:47 pm

        Jury? pshaw! Who cares about ’em?

      • kristin
        04/16/2013 at 5:33 pm

        Does she understand that her disrespect of Dr.Janeen will be noticed by the jury?! Is her pride more important to her than to acknowledge this witness?!!

  403. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:43 pm

    but the other high IQ score means she capable of planning a murder

    • Marilyn N
      04/16/2013 at 2:45 pm

      Being a first timer, she failed to cover her tracks very well…..

  404. 04/16/2013 at 2:44 pm


  405. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:44 pm

    This is so refreshing after all the BS we’ve all been subjected to.Can’t wait to see her “handle” Perky.

  406. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:44 pm

    wobo tested “above average”-maybe another clue that she “could” have been someone; could have done something, but didn’t.Too lazy? Verbal comprehension she was “high” on the scale.

    • Douglme
      04/16/2013 at 2:45 pm

      Too busy growing and smoking dope!

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 2:46 pm

      well what did ya expect – she spent so much time reading the dictionary 😉

  407. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 2:45 pm

    I know I’m behind everyone else bc I’m watching HLN but loved that emphasis Juan put on DOCTOR Samuels! OMG Can you say come-uppance! So what will the defense attack her on in their cross? Lack of experience, youth? How far can they go if she’s ALV’s supervisor?

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 2:47 pm

      I don’t think she’s ALV’s supervisor but she would supervise someone at that level

      • Elexa
        04/16/2013 at 2:49 pm

        I didn’t think I heard them say that either but HLN claims that is what was said.

      • Lisa M
        04/16/2013 at 2:51 pm

        Oh, okay, MMD, I must have misunderstood what was said earlier.

  408. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Gidget again! No question and shes still up! WTH?

  409. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:47 pm

    the jury must hate her being so divorced and blase from the proceedings, like shes studying for her HS diploma, when they’re stuck there having to wait thru the constant objections: death penalty here we come

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 2:49 pm

      hope so 🙂

    • Elexa
      04/16/2013 at 2:50 pm

      She can afford to be a snoot, it was the ninjas, after all. She is innocent and no jury will ever convict her, remember?

  410. 04/16/2013 at 2:47 pm

    her comprehension was very high well unusually high 136 but she scored low somewhere to bring it down.. she scored ok at puzzle solving…. I’m assuming the processing speed must have been down a bit hear that… maybe bad mathematics Im assuming brough her way down to 119

    • Elexa
      04/16/2013 at 2:51 pm

      She scored low on humanity.

      • 04/16/2013 at 2:54 pm

        thats a given 😀

  411. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:48 pm

    New drinking game “jerk”…

  412. commerce1
    04/16/2013 at 2:48 pm

    I love how the monster refuses to even acknowledge DeMarte is speaking. She will not even look up. She is just pretending to be BUSY, BUSY, BUSY. It is so telling about exactly how angry she is about this.

    • Elexa
      04/16/2013 at 2:54 pm

      I wish I knew how to post .gif’s

      • Pam
        04/16/2013 at 3:01 pm

        Love it….

      • Douglme
        04/16/2013 at 3:03 pm


    • kristin
      04/16/2013 at 5:35 pm

      Angry enough to kill again no doubt

  413. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:49 pm

    maybe wobo is writing the laws of attraction over and over and over again? Little bitch showing contempt for the witness. Jurors notice these things.

    • Family of Law
      04/16/2013 at 2:52 pm


  414. Family of Law
    04/16/2013 at 2:51 pm

    WOBO’s glasses are off today, because she wants to look “her prettiest” with the attractive, well educated PHD on the stand- I’m stunned that JA only (smugly) looked at the doc once, when JD had to identify her in the courtroom- the jury is astute, this deliberate behaviour isn’t lost any of them.

  415. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:51 pm

    Betcha JA has her totally tuned out. Not hearing a thing!

  416. WhereIsSHE
    04/16/2013 at 2:52 pm

    OK. I heard that too! 119!
    119?! And she thinks she is EINSTEIN-IAN???


    That’s not even in the “Very Superior Intelligence” category of 120-140
    That’s in the basic “Superior Intelligence” category (just above “Normal or Average Intelligence”)

    AAAAAAAAAhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa! And Jodi thinks she’s an “Einstein”!!!

    Meanwhile… manipulative as USUAL, doing her best to create a distraction from this excellent witness/brilliantly crafted direct examination.
    I hope the jurors don’t spend much time watching the “Jodi Manipulation Show” during this key testimony.

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:55 pm

      she’s waaay lower than me so I must be better than Einstein mmwhahahhahaha

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/16/2013 at 3:00 pm

        well, we all knew THAT already, Syn!
        (Your rapid-fire wit gave you away on day 1!)

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:13 pm

        hahah WIS thats just snark!

  417. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 2:52 pm

    Juan called th eDoc “M’am”

  418. 04/16/2013 at 2:53 pm

    That’s a good question RnR. Could she have been steered in the right direction? What happened in her childhood. Or was she just wired wrong? It’s a strange thing to argue logic to a Narcisist/sociopath. It’s a waste of time. What if Hitler got more hugs when he was a lad? Would that have changed things? Ted Bundy: Good childhood, smart, good looking, up and coming…

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 2:59 pm

      Ted Bundy, I believe had some stuff in his childhood early on. His mother was very young when she had him so he was raised thinking she was his sister, and he didn’t have a father present in his life. (I believe.)

  419. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 2:53 pm

    Oh, she hears everything! She’s faking being tuned out because her ego is basically in meltdown right now so she’s trying to hide! She’s dying inside, trust me!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 3:00 pm

      thats my take

  420. 04/16/2013 at 2:54 pm

    So what’s that twat gonna tweet tonight?

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 7:41 pm

      LOL I don’t think she’s been tweeting lately. Maybe her defense team told her to stop ?

  421. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 2:55 pm

    Syn: what personality is she taking on right now?

    • 04/16/2013 at 2:57 pm

      no idea I lost power here! sorry!!! just got back after a reboot didnt lose ipad but lost my imac

  422. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 2:55 pm

    OT – hope it isn’t another bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    American Airlines has a system-wide ground delay until 5 p.m. ET, according to the airline’s Twitter account.

    • Cats
      04/16/2013 at 3:20 pm

      CNN says they’re experiencing outages with their network.

  423. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 2:56 pm

    So that objection was sustained, simply because she said Jodi told another lie?

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 3:01 pm

      Yes. Lisa, if you can post why can’t you watch the live stream? It is SO GOOD! But they justnbroke for lunch.

      • Lisa M
        04/16/2013 at 3:41 pm

        Good question, HJ! Good question! I think it’s because I can’t sustain attention on the trial for a long period of time. I get nervous! But I think I will actually do that after the lunch break, because I can’t take the delays on HLN, although now I have to continue to watch HLN because I have to see the expert’s diagnosis!

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 3:55 pm

      Oh good …. you are just now at the very best part!!!! Here it comes!!!!

  424. Elexa
    04/16/2013 at 2:57 pm

    “Signs of Psychopathology” ! LOVE IT!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/16/2013 at 3:05 pm

      Now, before anyone jumps to the wrong conclusion, “psychopathology” is not synonomous with “psychopath” or “sociopath”. The way the witness stated it, iIt generally translates to mean that there were signs of “mental disorders”.

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:12 pm

        actually it is the study of mental disorders. Both the nature ofthem and the reasons for their manifestation. It basically means the nature of her behaviour.

  425. Elexa
    04/16/2013 at 2:57 pm

    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK! my azcentral stream just died!

  426. 04/16/2013 at 2:58 pm

    Wow….7 out of 10 on the scale indicates hostility and aggression!!! I feel a…’judge may we approach’ coming!!!!

  427. WhereIsSHE
    04/16/2013 at 2:58 pm

    Aggressiveness, hostility, defensiveness… but does a good job of hiding it (“not displaying it”, but still experiencing those feelings inside, and when they perceive that someone has hurt them, they EXTERNALIZE BLAME and ACT OUT and JUSTIFY IT IN THEIR OWN MIND.

    As Syn would say: Zegactly!!!!!!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/16/2013 at 3:09 pm

      Jodi is definitely fantasizing about ACTING OUT and causing HARM (to Juan and his perfect expert witness).
      Gives me the creeps just to think about what scary thoughts are running around her “scrambled” brain=(!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/16/2013 at 3:41 pm

      Jodi scored “significant” on 7 of the 10 clinical scales. (How uncommon is that, Syn?)
      Dr. D says she focused on the 3 highest scores.
      She was just starting to elaborate.
      Now THIS is fascinating testimony!!

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:56 pm

        very uncommon I would say…. but not unexpected.

        Id like to are what they are WIS

        Plus I missed that dammit I’ll have to wait for you tube version.. hopefully after lunch will help me catch up

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:57 pm

        omg ipad!! s/be I’d like to hear what they are

  428. Elexa
    04/16/2013 at 2:58 pm

    Whew! It’s back.

    • Elexa
      04/16/2013 at 2:59 pm

      In time for lunch!

  429. NapaNonnie
    04/16/2013 at 2:58 pm

    I have come in late to the testimony today and I’m trying to catch up with it and the groups’ comments, insightful as usual. I just want to state that I love, love, love the intelligence and professionalism of Dr. D. Such a refreshing change from the questionable experts supplied by the DT.

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 7:45 pm

      You said it, Napa!

  430. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 2:59 pm

    aggressive hostile defensive… violent outbursts sociopath!!!

  431. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 2:59 pm

    WOW! This is GREAT!!!

  432. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 2:59 pm

    WOW!!! This is fascinating stuff. Describes JA to a T.

    Syn – You must going wild right about now!

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:03 pm

      Imissed what happened after the IQ to only couple symptoms before break… I lost power here and had to reboot… what happened?

  433. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 3:00 pm


  434. 04/16/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Grace what did se say at the end I heard a bunch of symptoms but they could have related to a lot of things… external blame and unable to process anger

  435. Laine
    04/16/2013 at 3:02 pm

    oh my goodness…please tell me you are enjoying this as much as me Syn! This expert is a breath of fresh air!! She is cool, calm intelligent….I know I’m biased to Juan but truthfully if the defense had produced a witness of this calibre I would have listened very carefully…Juan has out done himself!

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:06 pm

      I was… until my house went black then power came back and missed the best bit by the sounds.

      I knew she would be good. This is what a forensic psychologist should be.. see why I was so outraged at the others? This is a real one

      • Laine
        04/16/2013 at 3:19 pm

        Syn she is so professional, right down to including a test to verify she could read…seems small to some people but sooo important! She’s not leaving any wriggle room in her results she’s covered everything. She is a true joy to watch! And I knew you would enjoying because she is reciting all you have diagnosed to us in here…albeit you didn’y have the opportunity that she’s had in the clinical interviewing and testing wow proud of chicky!! 🙂

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:22 pm

        yeah but Jodi is easy! too easy! thank you

      • Lisa M
        04/16/2013 at 3:46 pm

        I think because they’re so behind that if you watch it on HLN you may be able to see it.

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:46 pm

        we dont get HLN in Australia Lisa

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 3:33 pm

      my thoughts also; good to see a professiuonal not a hack;that she is wobo’s age makes it all the more pleasant 🙂

  436. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 3:03 pm

    No smirks today, huh? I’ve had computer problems with freezing twice this morning so has she been smirking at all????

    • Elexa
      04/16/2013 at 3:04 pm

      She is totally and completely ignoring the witness. It’s as if she just doesn’t exist.

    • Tracey A
      04/16/2013 at 3:05 pm

      JA won’t even look at this witness. No smirking whatsoever!

    • HJ Madison
      04/16/2013 at 3:05 pm

      Smirking …. she has not even looked up! It is the “Jodi creates art show”. Gees I wonder whatnthe jurymthinks of her now.

      • HJ Madison
        04/16/2013 at 3:07 pm

        Ipad keyboard! what the jury thinks

    • Laine
      04/16/2013 at 3:11 pm

      She’s wrapped in her alternate reality…completely disassociative. Dr DeMarte is completely verifying everything our Syn has given us in her projections of JA…Pat on the back Syn 🙂

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:17 pm

        awwww shucks 😛 I just hope we get the sociopath diagnosis. To validate Travis more than anything.

  437. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 3:03 pm

    wow lunch already?? That went fast! I love you Juan!!!!!!!!

    • commerce1
      04/16/2013 at 3:14 pm

      I was thinking the same thing. Time flies with a great witness and this amazing prosecutor.

      Not so much when you’ve got someone on the stand refusing to answer yes/no questions and rambling on and on about nonsense that makes no sense; combined with these rambling defense attorneys who can never just get to the point.

  438. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 3:03 pm

    they are covering everything we’ve all been saying!!

  439. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 3:04 pm

    Ah wobo has an inner aggressive nature; profiles suggests that person places blame on others!

  440. Its me!
    04/16/2013 at 3:05 pm

    Has anyone got a look at the Alexander family today? Hope they will feel some sense of justice today!!

  441. commerce1
    04/16/2013 at 3:05 pm

    Major observation I have today……remember how Dr. Samuels had to comb through reference books and refer to notes andd charts and “left things in his office?”

    Dr. DeMarte speaks very clearly and authoratatively regarding the testing she administered, protocols, definitions of various psychological terms and pathologies, and refers to nothing other than the exhibits Juan hands her to review. This is an excellent witness. After the ridiculous and clumsy testimony from Dr. Samuels and ALV there is no question who the believable and authorative witness is here.

    And I love Jodi sitting over there seething.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 3:35 pm

      ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh so true

  442. Marilyn N
    04/16/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Enjoy your PB&J, JA!!

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 3:13 pm


  443. 04/16/2013 at 3:12 pm

    OMG. Dr. DeMarte just pegged Arias completely. I’ll bet ol’ Jodi will have trouble choking down her 1/2 a peanut butter sandwich after THAT devastating yet accurate diagnosis. BTW, I’ve just found this site and it’s awesome. This is my first post.

    (name and location removed by Admin)

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:26 pm

      hello Cat

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:40 pm

        Hi & thanks!

  444. LindaLou
    04/16/2013 at 3:13 pm

    Wonder how jurors are reacting to Dr. D. ?

  445. NapaNonnie
    04/16/2013 at 3:14 pm

    WTH is going on with WOBO? It looks like she’s working on her math homework or something. Is she trying to dis the intelligent, beautiful psychologist who has her number?

    • commerce1
      04/16/2013 at 3:17 pm

      Looks like she’s copying and writing her spelling words 10 times each.

      • NapaNonnie
        04/16/2013 at 3:18 pm

        Right on!

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:20 pm

        shes trying to up the comprehension to get her IQ to 120 so she can feel superior

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 3:26 pm

      Of course she is but it’s not working. Her ego is very fragile and she can’t take that kind of competition!

    • Marilyn N
      04/16/2013 at 3:33 pm

      They are having her write: I will tell the truth
      I will tell the truth”
      I will tell the truth
      I will tell the truth
      Repeat 5,000 times

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:34 pm

        not going to help. She can’t do it

      • Marilyn N
        04/16/2013 at 3:41 pm

        I guess they don’t want JA to tell the truth now, it would
        ruin their entire defense!!

  446. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 3:14 pm

    HLN has a def attorney on who says he expects the def to recall ALV to rehabilitate her in the re-rebuttle – Yeah I think probably when hell freezes over!!!!!!!!!!!


    • Elexa
      04/16/2013 at 3:17 pm

      She’ll whine about being busy.

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 3:18 pm

      I just saw that MMD. Wondering about that myself. Oh, please don’t make us have to listen to that woman again!

    • Laine
      04/16/2013 at 3:30 pm

      All I can say is…Good Luck with that! I’m f***ed if I would want to follow her! It would be a huge mistake and only prove to show how inadequate their witnesses really are!! 🙂

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:36 pm

        exactly why show her up again… doesn’t make sense.

    • Marilyn N
      04/16/2013 at 3:37 pm

      that would be a total waste of time.
      We’ve heard all she has to say 3 times – make that 6 times
      after repeating the spiel from Willnot

    • MoVG
      04/16/2013 at 4:07 pm

      She will bury her career even further if she testifies again.

  447. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 3:16 pm

    It looks like JA is copying what she has in her journal/scribbler onto individual sheets.

  448. LindaLou
    04/16/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Just heard on HLN that there could be a ‘surrebuttal’. Basically, a rebuttal to the rebuttal which the DT could bring back….wait for it…… ALV. God forbid should this happen.

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:25 pm

      LOLOL! that’d be funny

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/16/2013 at 3:38 pm

        it would be funny but as stupid as these defense lawyers are, I don’t think they are THAT stupid.

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:40 pm

        yeah can’t see it happening. Unless they are even more stupid than I already think they are

  449. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 3:20 pm

    OH, LOL La Violette was subjective!

  450. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 3:23 pm

    Oh, no, the defense attorney on HLN said it’s up to the judge in AZ if there’s a surrebuttal, and knowing this judge, I’m sure she’ll allow it!

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:37 pm

      bring it on.. it will just make the jurors hate the DT even more

  451. 04/16/2013 at 3:27 pm

    how long is lunch?

    • Marilyn N
      04/16/2013 at 3:34 pm

      about 50 More minutes…..

      • 04/16/2013 at 3:35 pm

        ty 🙂

  452. LindaLou
    04/16/2013 at 3:30 pm

    Did ya notice when Wilmott was not objecting, she and Nurmi looked like they were enjoying this witness as much as we were?

  453. 04/16/2013 at 3:31 pm

    FINALLY…A REAL EXPERT….!!! Sounds like a smart young woman….that’s why JA won’t look at her! She has that butcher pegged from day one and the tests don’t lie! Willanurmi better pace herself….she’s going to run out of depends before the day is done!! Doesn’t it sound like every time she jumps up (literally!) With an objection it has the tone of a child saying, “oooo I’m gonna go tell!”

    Good job Juan!!

    • Laine
      04/16/2013 at 4:00 pm

      Hee hee…..It’s like she has a spring up her ass..have you ever seen anyone jump up so quick!! looks like she’s in an ejecter seat!! and then the whiny…boo hoo squish squish….

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:04 pm


  454. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 3:37 pm

    thought Ms Gasbag was making appearance today? Is that over; was it in chambers? Anyone know?

    • 04/16/2013 at 3:39 pm

      told finished yesterday and sealed

  455. Mary Delk
    04/16/2013 at 3:39 pm

    Any word about how the jury is reacting to this witness? Her crisp professional manner is such a contrast to AV’s more folksy approach. I think it’s refreshing, but Some may be put off by that, especially since she is so young. I hope she doesn’t get tripped up on cross by her opinions being questioned like many experts do.

    Also, I’ve read on one chat board, and only one, that the defense went through 11 experts before settling on AV. Does anyone know that or did someone just guess that?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 3:55 pm

      thats established

    • nsdragonfly
      04/16/2013 at 7:42 pm

      I heard that as well. Looks like no ‘expert’ would touch this case with a ten foot pole for the defence…so they scraped the bottom of the barrell to get the good doctor (gag) and lavoilette….money talks….

  456. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 3:40 pm

    aw shucks wanted to hear that

  457. katz63md
    04/16/2013 at 3:50 pm

    gotta say it: that bald spot on willmott is bugging the heck out of me. she needs to use her can-o-hair to fix it.

    • NapaNonnie
      04/16/2013 at 5:02 pm

      I agree Katz, and I think she might have pulled more hair out during lunch. I would if I had to come back and try to cross examine this sharp expert witness. It’s a lot harder than feeding the answers to the 2 experts she used.

  458. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 3:54 pm

    ahhh how refreshing! an expert that turned down the jodi juice!!

  459. 04/16/2013 at 4:00 pm

    Samuels & LaViolette remind me of being in Psych 101 during the first term of my freshman year in college,1973. They are immersed in old fashioned psychobabble from the mid-70’s and it comes across to me as outdated and just plain wrong, something right out of my study group. It’s like they know just enough to sound like they know what they’re talking about but not really. The difference between the defense and prosecution experts is like night and day. I couldn’t imagine Dr. DeMarte apologizing to Arias or sending her little cards and other crap through the mail. I’ll bet that Wilmott & Nurmi totally have a monster case of indigestion right about now. I can’t wait for lunch to be over!

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:02 pm

      I agree with you!

  460. 04/16/2013 at 4:02 pm

    I’m gonna do this the way i’m ginna do it is out of respect for our host:

    F YEAH!!!!!!!!! FN get the F ready, cuz your FN ass is going bye bye you FN F.

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:04 pm

      ok bubble has either lost his mind or someones in his account again

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:07 pm

      F YEAH, Bubble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Nienna
        04/16/2013 at 4:13 pm


    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 4:14 pm

      You tell em!!

  461. NancyB
    04/16/2013 at 4:07 pm

    Syntara :
    awwww shucks I just hope we get the sociopath diagnosis. To validate Travis more than anything.


    In total agreement! I want to HEAR her say ASPD!!!!

  462. 04/16/2013 at 4:10 pm

    why does time fly with a goods expert on the stan and draaaaaaag when those others are there

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 4:14 pm

      It’s the continuum!

      • 04/16/2013 at 4:16 pm

        omg that’s it!!!!

      • Nienna
        04/16/2013 at 4:16 pm

        Or should I say the matrix 🙂

      • 04/16/2013 at 4:23 pm

        Nienna thankfully I don’t need the blue pill today

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:18 pm

      You’re right about that, Syntara. I couldn’t believe it was lunchtime already. I just cringe whenever Wilmott or Nurmi gets up to speak. Wilmott’s voice alone is like nails-on-a-chalkboard irritating to my ears and Nurmi’s tone sounds like a perv or serial killer. I know I’m biased in favor of the prosecution, but the defense team is unbearable.

      • 04/16/2013 at 4:21 pm

        hey don’t you think Wurmi sounds really condescending?

      • 04/16/2013 at 4:22 pm

        and Perky.. she just seems sooooo disorganised in her questioning ad neither ever seem to have a plan just random questions unlike Juan who plays chess

      • 04/16/2013 at 4:30 pm

        VERY condescending. Nurmi also sounded very whiny and jealous of the prosecutor yesterday. I couldn’t believe how personal and petty he got during his lame motion for a mistrial. There’s also something in his tone that creeps me out, though, sort of a lounge lizardy, oily quality that I just can’t quite put my finger on. Wilmott’s whiny, nasal screech has a migraine-inducing quality that is absolutely unbearable. I had to stop listening to her & LAV during direct.

      • Lisa M
        04/16/2013 at 7:25 pm

        A perv or a serial killer. Ha ha LOL Yes, it does.

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:32 pm

      timespacecontinuumstargatestartreklogvortexblackholegalaxyuniverseinfinitespace! Ya know…anything that sounds neverending…..like ‘The Jodi Aria Murder Trial’….see??

  463. 04/16/2013 at 4:15 pm

    Syn’s got her finger on the pulse…I just find myself pacing saying “Fuck Yeah.” every few minutes. Like some mad scienist in the castle basement tapping his fingernails together saying “Gooooood, Juanderfull… Don’t let her go…”

    Would any ladies care to comment on the C Word? Does she deserve such a title? Isn’t that the worst word? Is Jodi Arias a C WORD?

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 4:17 pm

      I’ll say YES to that!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 4:20 pm

      why go there? I know lts of “c” words and alot of them aren’t nice words; wobo has her own anagram that enough!

      • Nienna
        04/16/2013 at 4:30 pm

        I meant… Calculated, Unscrupulous, Narcissistic Tramp… What?

    • Laine
      04/16/2013 at 4:23 pm

      Hell yeah she’s a c**t in the UK we have no such Sensibilities about using this word…if the cap fits….

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:27 pm

      Nope can’t agree… Cts have a use wobo doesn’t.

    • Douglme
      04/16/2013 at 4:29 pm

      Save the “C” word, please!

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 4:33 pm

      Even that’s too good for her bubble 😉

    • Family of Law
      04/16/2013 at 4:41 pm

      I have a foul mouth, in the right company. I have always steered clear of the “C” word- but in this case…. I think she IS a C(unning) U(nfeeling) N(arcissus T(ramp).

      • Nancy Pennington
        04/16/2013 at 7:07 pm

        Perfect description !

  464. HJ Madison
    04/16/2013 at 4:16 pm

    Checking out tweets. WildAboutTrial reports (just before lunch) the jurors were attentive and taking notes. No questions yet in the bin.

    • Nienna
      04/16/2013 at 4:18 pm

      Probably because she is clear and concise. Leaving no need for additional questions.

  465. Mckealty
    04/16/2013 at 4:23 pm

    Hi all!

    I just wanted to ask if anyone knows what happened to David Lohr. For a while it appeared he was no longer allowed to upload videos longer than 15 minutes because “someone complained”.

    And now it appears that he has abandoned his Youtube page.


    If this has already been discussed I am sorry…

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:25 pm

      Not sure, Mckealty. He’s still live blogging over on Huffington Post.

      • Mckealty
        04/16/2013 at 4:27 pm

        I’m glad for him. But the day I go to HuffPo will be the day I turn senile.

  466. 04/16/2013 at 4:32 pm

    Jodis redone her makeup….. she’s worried Janeen is showing her up in the beauty stakes

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:51 pm

      Ah ha! That is WHY she isn’t wearing her glasses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 04/16/2013 at 4:55 pm


  467. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 4:32 pm

    Did ya see what the orange thing is that Gidget has??????????????? It’s a pencil sharpener for JA and Gidget has to sharpen her golf pencils for her !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!love it, love it, love it 🙂

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:33 pm

      So Gidget is basically WOBO’s bitch??

      • MMD
        04/16/2013 at 4:34 pm

        Looks like it 🙂

  468. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 4:33 pm

    Syntara–wasn’t it funny when Juan referred to “donoman” yesterday?

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:37 pm

      oh hell ya!!

  469. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 4:36 pm

    OMG she called her immature!!!!!!!!!!! She’s gonna hate that!!!!!!!!!! love it, love it, love it, love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 4:42 pm

      Ditto to that! Love it!

  470. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 4:37 pm

    wobo is “immature” hahahah maybe an intellectual deficit….

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 4:44 pm


  471. commerce1
    04/16/2013 at 4:37 pm

    JA’s demeanor today is so telling. I love it. You know she is listening to every single word and seething with rage.

    The thing about sociopaths is that when they realize a person knows exactly who and what they are, they then dismiss them completely. Why? Because they are of no use to them. They cannot be manipulated so they are a waste of their time. Also, they do not wish to acknowledge or engage with someone who knows exactly who and what they are. Being revealed is their worst fear.

    So Jodi sits over there pretending like DeMarte does not exist, while fantasizing about harming Martinez and DeMarte in unimaginable ways.

  472. 04/16/2013 at 4:38 pm

    I hope she doesn’t stop at BPD I will be very disappointed

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 4:41 pm

      Yeah, Syn, I know we had that conversation. I hope she doesn’t either. But I loved her description of Jodi’s behavior as immature and like a teenager’s and referencing the booking photo. Hee hee

      • 04/16/2013 at 4:42 pm

        oh yeah she would have hated that!!!!

  473. NapaNonnie
    04/16/2013 at 4:39 pm

    Axis 2. Borderline Personality Disorder. Right on target.

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:41 pm

      does not account for lack of conscience

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:43 pm

      plus she doesn’t cry enough

  474. katz63md
    04/16/2013 at 4:42 pm

    JA is playing right into the good Dr.’s diagnosis today. Wonder if the jury sees this today as well.

  475. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 4:44 pm

    a terribible fear of being abandoned; try to keep people close to them; read text without permission, needy, highlights tendency to engage in intrusive behavior

  476. NapaNonnie
    04/16/2013 at 4:44 pm

    Dr. D: “I know the BPD criteria off the top of my head but it will help me to review it.” Dr D has so much class. Her ego is under control. So unlike the other 2.

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:47 pm

      she displays BPD but has extra… so I hope she goes on with it. Plus she isn’t emotional enough. I hope she goes to Narcissist and sociopath too for fuller diagnosis

      • NapaNonnie
        04/16/2013 at 5:06 pm

        Yes Syn I hope so too. You have given this group a good explanation of her symptoms. I’m sure the rest of the diagnosis will be coming in.

      • 04/16/2013 at 5:08 pm

        but I vant see how because BPD and ASPD are mutually exclusive in terms of range of emotion. Jodi does not display full range of emotion or remorse.

        thats not lacking in BPD

  477. Lisa M
    04/16/2013 at 4:46 pm

    Love Dr. D!

    • NapaNonnie
      04/16/2013 at 5:08 pm

      Me too. If I have a time when I need a psychologist, I’m moving to Arizona so she can help me.

  478. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 4:46 pm

    her journals show an “immature” person; like a “teenager”

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:48 pm

      thats absolutely true shessooooo emotionally stunted

  479. 04/16/2013 at 4:47 pm

    Hey RnR, I was conducting an experiment as to whether women would accept the C Word as a desciptor for JA. It’s a scientific exploration of the age old question, so why would you tell me to behave, again? Are we not adults? Have we not heard about Jodi’s Gspot on the tapes? And Anal, and K Y. My question is: If the C Word is the worst insult, you can call a woman, what would women have to say.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 5:03 pm

      No one is stopping you; I was suggesting that it might be a forced use of the word; if it had grown organically from a comment I’d be more supportive; it seemed arbitrary and for shock purposes or as a “poll” rather than a description in a moment of time.. Go ahead. Use what ever words you want. It struck me as coming from left field at the moment, thats all.

  480. Nienna
    04/16/2013 at 4:48 pm

    So excited that she is telling the jury who JA actually is!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:55 pm

      Jodi would be hating this…. but also breathing a sigh of relief as well

  481. 04/16/2013 at 4:49 pm

    Now THIS is what I call an expert witness!

  482. 04/16/2013 at 4:49 pm

    See DT…..this is what a proper lawyer-expert witness exchange should look like!!!!

  483. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 4:49 pm

    tendency to do things on a whim, impulsive; acts like th eperson she’s around, mimics their way; no sure sense of identity

  484. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 4:53 pm

    I LOVE this witness. I can’t get enough of this. Look how pissed off JA is!!! LMAO!!!

    • 04/16/2013 at 4:57 pm

      ya but I still think she’s stopped a couple steps short of then finish line kinda disappointing

      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 5:04 pm

        Juan maybe saving some doozies to present until Perky is done and he’s up again.

      • 04/16/2013 at 5:06 pm

        I think its because she’s been schooled through the BPD ‘fad’ As I said I understand it, but it’s a mistake

    • commerce1
      04/16/2013 at 5:01 pm

      Yes, look how even when Juan hands an exhibit to her lawyers to review, she still can’t be bothered to look up from re-writing her spelling words to even see what it is. She is trying desperately to not let her anger show on her face. Of all days to pull her hair back……..LOL!!!!! Bet she’s wishing she had her hair curtain today!!!!!

  485. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/16/2013 at 4:56 pm

    wormi is picking his nose again Christ.

    • MMD
      04/16/2013 at 5:00 pm

      well it constantly provides him with a wealth of goodies!!!! LOL

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/16/2013 at 5:04 pm


  486. stephanie
    04/16/2013 at 4:56 pm

    I think JA has about got that coloring book filled in already. She needs a new one, hey miss boob lady she needs a new coloring book!!

  487. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 4:57 pm

    Jodi’s given up… not even looking at the email… devastated at the depiction of her true self? Feel sorry for her mom – knows what she’s hearing about her daughter is true..

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 7:57 pm

      You’re a better person than I am Jay, to feel sorry for her mom. Maybe I should but it’s kinda hard!

  488. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 4:57 pm

    And we’re back to the def and the slowest readers in the world grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • Lisa M
      04/16/2013 at 7:58 pm

      you’ve got that right, MMD! LOL

  489. Schaeffer
    04/16/2013 at 4:58 pm

    This ought to be rich — 14 Feb 07 was supposedly the day Travis sent the Valentine’s box, and we all know what is allegedly in there. Now we’re going to see a text message where she was angry? Hmmmmmmm . . . contradiction to her story, perhaps?

    • Douglme
      04/16/2013 at 5:01 pm

      I must have missed that, what was in it?

      • Schaeffer
        04/16/2013 at 5:05 pm

        The t-shirt that read “Travis Alexander’s”, the underwear that said “Travis,” and the Spiderman underwear. Some chocolates, too, but they are not important. The DT is sure fighting to keep this out, though.

  490. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 4:58 pm

    Where’s Chrissie today???????????????

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/16/2013 at 5:07 pm

      or Observer?

      • MMD
        04/16/2013 at 5:08 pm

        Haven’t seen Observer in dayssssssssssssssss 😦

  491. Tracey A
    04/16/2013 at 5:00 pm

    JA trying so hard to look aloof…I think I can see smoke coming out of all her orifices.

    • commerce1
      04/16/2013 at 5:06 pm

      As she writes page after page of “BITCH! BITCH! BITCH! DIE BITCH! DIE BITCH! DIE BITCH!

      This witness is really pissing her off. LOL

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/16/2013 at 5:08 pm


      • Tracey A
        04/16/2013 at 5:11 pm

        LOL!!! I can’t believe she doesn’t even glance up every now and then. Even if just to stare at the wall. Wow!

      • NapaNonnie
        04/16/2013 at 5:14 pm


  492. MMD
    04/16/2013 at 5:01 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    We are in sidebar. Jurors are seen flipping their notepads and getting ready to take more notes

  493. 04/16/2013 at 5:01 pm

    It’s easy to stop at BPD.. it’s the “new” I don’t like this diagnosis but I can understand it. But she is wrong if she stops at BPD

    • NancyB
      04/16/2013 at 6:03 pm

      I totally agree with you but I still maintain she’s a psychopath. But this is ok in comparison with the malarkey Samuels proposed.

  494. 04/16/2013 at 5:02 pm

    At least its way better diagnosis than PTSD

  495. Moon
    04/16/2013 at 5:02 pm

    looks like hodi is doing some major disassociation bout now! also, the cam just panned to her mother…she has a look on her face well yeah, i’ve been saying for years something’s wrong with her! she is writing with a fury! lolol come on judge get this show on the ROAD. not a time to give whiney another school lesson!!!!!

  496. Jay
    04/16/2013 at 5:03 pm

    Syn if they make her out too ‘crazy’ won’t that mitigate the sentencing?

    • 04/16/2013 at 5:10 pm

      nobody is saying she is crazy

  497. 04/16/2013 at 5:04 pm

    Unfortunately in the late 90s BPD became the catch all cluster B diagnosis for females.

  498. Family of Law
    04/16/2013 at 5:04 pm

    JA is going to have a wicked case of writer’s cramp tonight! Her behavior today is very telling- the jig is up, she’s been outed and she is mortified for the 1st time in this trial-