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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Fifty-One, Discussion 2

04/23/2013

Please continue discussion here!

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donchais

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  1. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 9:01 am

    Thanks for the new page donchais – my thumb was wearing out scrolling down on my tablet!

    3 ( or four or five!) hours and counting till gavel time…

  2. Observer
    04/23/2013 at 9:10 am

    History of Jodi Arias changing attorneys and motions by attorneys.

    First public defender at arraignment is James Hann.

    On 9/19/08 the public defender is Maria L Schaffer as primary.

    On 9/19/08 another public defender Judis R Andrews requested an extension of time to challenge the Grand Jury proceedings as they did not have a copy of the Grand Jury transcript.

    On 12/18/08 the primary public defender is Maria L Schaffer and the secondary public defender is Gregory T Parzych. Juan M Martinez is still the State’s Attorney.

    On 5/22/09 the defendant submitted a request for a change of counsel.
    Additional hearings and status meeting are held without further mention of the change of council.

    On 8/10/09 the Court received and reviewed a motion from both public defenders to withdraw from representing the defendant. The Court found sufficient cause to allow them to withdraw and noted that the trial was set for February 2, 2010 so there is adequate time for new counsel to be assigned without putting the trial date in jeopardy.

    On 8/18/09 Victoria E Washington and Kirk Nurmi appear as counsel along with Maria Schaffer and Gregory Parzych at an evidentiary hearing. Of interest, this hearing was to determine if there is probable cause to add an Aggravating Factor that will make this a death penalty case. This is where the prosecution presents to the Court that the victim was shot first, then repeatedly stabbed, then stabbed in the heart and finally had throat slit. Detective Flores represents to the court that he spoke with the Medical Examiner Dr. Horne and that this is the sequence of events Dr. Horne gave him.

    On 8/18/09 Victoria E Washington (secondary) and Kirk Nurmi (primary) are assigned as new defense counsel.

    On 2/25/11 Kirk Nurmi announced to the Court that he is leaving the Public Defender’s Office.

    On 3/8/2011 a hearing is held regarding Kirk Nurmi withdrawing as defense counsel. Very interesting minutes. Defendant strenuously objected to new counsel and possibility of pushing back trial date. The Court noted that “Once a case is set for trial, counsel may not withdraw except upon motion providing the name and address of another attorney, along with a statement from that attorney stating that he or she has been advised of the trial date and will be prepared for trial. Rule 6.3(c). No such motion or statement has been filed in this case. “ Mr. Nurmi was ordered to continue as the lead defense counsel at the standard public defender hourly rate paid to the primary defense counsel.

    On 3/9/2011 Mr. Nurmi submitted a formal motion to withdraw and as hearing on the motion was set for 3/21/2011.

    On 3/21/2011 Mr. Nurmi’s motion to withdraw as counsel is denied. At this hearing the State’s request to change the trial date due to a scheduling conflict with State Attorney Juan M Martinez was also denied.

    On 3/22/2011 another hearing is held with a second motion to withdraw by Mr. Nurmi. After the hearing on the previous day the Public Defender Office notified Mr. Nurmi that they were withdrawing the mitigation specialist, investigator, and paralegal because the Public Defender Office does not want Mr. Nurmi directing staff when he is no longer an employee. The Court ordered that Mr. Nurmi motion was denied and he was required to remain as the primary counsel and that the Public Defender Office must immediately reassign the personnel to the case.

    On 4/4/2011 Mr. Nurmi stated his objection to remaining on the case during a status hearing as he has left the Public Defender Office to go into private practice. The Court found that Mr. Nurmi has an ethical obligation to continue representing the defendant but would begin receiving a reasonable hourly rate of $225.00 as compensation to avoid any financial interests that would place Mr. Nurmi in conflict with his client.

    On 8/8/2011 defendant has a hearing on an oral motion she submitted to represent herself. At the end of the hearing this motion is granted but Kirk Nurmi and Victoria Washington are to remain as advisory counsel, with Victoria Washington as primary. The evidentiary hearing on the purported letters from Travis Alexander alleging he is a pedophile is held with Ms. Arias as defense counsel.

    On 8/9/2011 during a normal status conference both Victoria Washington and Kirk Nurmi address the Court as to the roles and responsibility of advisory counsel, and the primary counsel (which is now the defendant). The Court agrees and addresses this with Ms. Arias and asks her if she wishes to remain as her own counsel. She states she will continue as primary counsel.

    On 8/15/2011 the evidentiary hearing regarding the “pedophile” letters is completed. The Court orders that the letters are precluded and the defense withdraws them. At the end of this hearing Ms. Arias submits an oral request to withdraw as her own counsel and requests that Mr. Nurmi and Victoria Washington be reinstated as defense counsel. The Court orders Kirk Nurmi and Victoria Washington to represent the defendant in all further proceedings.

    On 9/9/2011 the trial date is reset to 2/21/2012 due to the primary defense witness needing to withdraw because of a health issue. A new witness will need to be retained and allowed time to prepare for the trial.

    On 12/22/2011 a hearing was held on a motion from the Public Defender Office to withdraw from this case due to a conflict of interest with Victoria Washington. Motion was allowed but the Public Defender Office will appoint a new second counsel, investigator, mitigation specialist, and paralegal. Victoria Washington is released as counsel.

    On 1/3/2012 a hearing was held on a motion to continue trial due to assignment of new counsel. New secondary counsel Jennifer L Willmott was assigned by the Public Defender Office. Defendant agreed and waived the applicable time limit. Trial date was changed to 10/17/2012.

    On 3/12/2012 a hearing was held on a defense motion to dismiss the Intent to Seek Death Penalty. Per the motion “At the status conference on January 3, 2012, the Court granted an oral motion by the defense to continue the trial due to the recent appointment of Ms. Willmott. Defendant Arias agreed to the continuance and the exclusion of time. The trial was reset to October 17, 2012. All time was excluded. See minute entry dated January 3, 2012. Defendant now asserts the State’s Notice of Intent to Seek the Death Penalty should be dismissed because, to assure she had effective representation by counsel, Defendant Arias had to agree to the continuance of the trial to October 17, 2012.” The Court denied this motion as the need for competent and prepared counsel trumps her right to a speedy trial. During this hearing the defense also submitted a motion to preclude the State from referring to Travis Alexander as a “victim” during the trial. Specifically, Defendant Arias argues she would be prejudiced by permitting the State and its witnesses to refer to Mr. Alexander as the victim since it is contrary to her claim of self defense. As such, she would be prejudiced. The State responds that the term “victim” is routinely used in criminal cases and does not imply the defendant committed the crime with which she has been charged. Further, the State argues Mr. Alexander was murdered and thus he was a “victim” of a criminal offense as defined by Arizona law. The Court finds the defendant failed to establish she will be prejudiced if Mr. Alexander is referred to as the “victim” in front of the jury during the trial. The State’s evidence will show Mr. Alexander was the victim of a homicide. Apparently, the defendant will argue she acted in self defense and was thus justified in her actions. Regardless, referring to Mr. Alexander as the “victim” during the trial will not unfairly prejudice the defendant.

    On 10/30/12 defense submits another request to continue the trial date (there was a previous motion that was granted moving the trial date from 10/17/2012 to 11/19/2012) because they want their own review of a computer hard drive. State objects to the continuation.

    On 11/19/2012 motion is granted changing trial date to 12/10/2012.

    On 12/4/2012 defense submits another motion for continuation. Motion is denied.

    Jury selection begins on 12/10/2012. Final jury is selected and sworn in 12/20/12. Opening statements scheduled to being 1/2/2012.

    All court minutes for Jodi Arias
    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov…r=CR2008031021

    • 04/23/2013 at 9:51 am

      Thanks, Observer. I wonder what happened to the trial date that was set for Feb. 2nd, 2010? And what happened between that date, and the date Wurmi wanted to leave the case? Or is it because she changed her story in 2010, so that sort of reset the process? Curious!

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 11:09 am

      Thank you so much for putting this all together! I tried to plow thru the minute entries to glean these bits — well done!

      I seem to recall V. Washington may have pulled out because she had somehow gotten involved with Mathew McCartney (sp?) (as a client) and the forged letters. No doubt she was relieved to get out! And I think Dr. Carp, referred to by Dr. DeMarte, is the one who left the defense due to health reasons.

      I also got a laugh at the number of times Jodistein tried to represent herself. It does put into perspective why this trial has taken so long to get into court and why Nurmi doesn’t seem to like his client.

      BTW, there is a bunch of other BS that went on …. Jodi files a motion to have her “lack of remorse” barred from discussion during a penalty phase, Jodi files a motion to have results from a lie detector test admitted during the penalty phase, Jodi files a motion to get her billing logs surpressed (never mind the Taxpayers of AZ are paying) etc.

      Thanks again Observer!

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 12:33 pm

        Yes….when we were reading through the documents online we saw the reference of Washington claiming conflict of interest but all we could find was that she had some kind of connection (represented) to an individual now a witness for the Duh-fense. We were thinking that maybe charges were brought against Matt McCartney at one time for the forged Pedophile letters and Washington may have represented him at that time. We thought maybe the Prosecution may have threatened him with prosecution if he didn’t come clean. The Prosecution has his statement (as JM was waving in JA’s face during his cross of her). The DT may have added him to their witness list at which time Washington asked to be removed for conflict of interest. Boy….they were bailing like rats on a sinking ship!! They sensed the bad Karma!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 11:43 am

      Yes. Thanks for this. The wobo trying to be the lawyer, Hahahaha. The old saying that a person who defends herself has a fool for a client couldn’t be truer.

  3. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 9:29 am

    Wow.. Amazing stuff!
    Any idea what was the conflict of interest with Victoria Washington?
    Was she convinced Arias was guilty of premeditated murder and therefore obligated to withdraw?
    And Nurmi should stop looking so dour. He will be a rich man when the trial is concluded.

    • Schaeffer
      04/23/2013 at 12:09 pm

      Victoria Washington was released because a previous client of hers had further court proceedings, and this individual knew either WOBO or Travis. Since her relationship with the client pre-dated her appointment to work with WOBO, she was released on conflict of interest and to continue the previous lawyer-client relationship. There was nothing conspiratorial in any of it, despite the countless attempts by others to find something devious or untoward.

      • 04/23/2013 at 1:42 pm

        She is probably thanking her lucky stars that she was able to divorce herself from this client…case!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 12:35 pm

      See our post above.

  4. Kristy
    04/23/2013 at 9:35 am

    Nurmi would probably have been richer had he not had to defend Jodi.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 9:38 am

      Yes, and his private practice will be ruined going forward with all the ill will directed at him

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 9:44 am

        I see ads appearing on Craigslist or at the bottom of bird cages 😉

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 9:59 am

      I don’t know about that Kristy. With all the start-up costs and unless their is an overwhelming number of sexual offenders as that is his specialty, he pretty much has been guaranteed a salary (no doubt well padded) over the past several years. As far as I can tell, the taxpayers of Arizona have provided him with a nice living during this period and he was still able to take other clients. Going forward, well that’s a different story 😆

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 11:07 am

        A quick calculator check indicates he’s already grossed AT LEAST a million dollars from the trial: 2 years @ 225 an hour. minimum of 40 hours a week, that’s 225x40x104 = $936,000, not counting overtime (lots of that right) and perks. Most of that money will be tax deductible. Newly self-employed, he’ll have numerous write-offs: new office, computers and printers, furniture (high-tech recliners in every room 🙂

        (Mickee Daniels, you need to do a video segment on that, with background music & lyrics from Fiddler On The Roof — If I was a rich man- ya ha deedle deedly, DUMB… )

  5. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 9:48 am

    Oh ‘Im so glad to be back in the sandbox!!! I mean I had a LOT of time to make up and I did!
    The trial sandbox has usually been from 6:30pm to 2am , Holland time. These particular hours, as some may know, are the trifecta of marital accord: dinner, evening and bedtime. I had been remiss. In addition, as some of you know, a bit loose tongued during odd hours, about certain people. I’m not saying who by name, just call ’em DeMartvelous and DeJuanderfull.

    So this was make-up time, 4 days and 4 nights worth. Back in the bed, back at the dinner table, back in front of the TV. No dancing to the”Heat is Juan.” Back to discussions of family& household&books&money& the neighborhood.

    Back to cycling – I kid you not, on a tandem (bike built for 2) – around the great city of Rotterdam whose patron is the 16 century humanist, Erasmus. We rode over the bridge named after him to get downtown to see his statue, the oldest in the Netherlands. Lots of cities have their patrons on horses with swords held high. I like Erasmus’ statue; he’s standing there reading a book. My kinda guy.

    We took the biketunnel back under the river which is fun.We stopped at a Asian-Fusion restaurant to have a combo dimsum and Californi- roll.meal. During the days after, I cooked 4 dinners and cleaned the shower/steam unit, went shopping, watched “My wife, Your wife” and “Say Yes to the Dress” and made sure I was first in bed each night. I made most of the pots of coffee and made the bed each day..
    So, mission accomplished! Back in the sandbox! Thanks Ms. dochais!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 9:51 am

      Welcome back darlin’. Your wife has been a real trouper throughout this trial so I’m glad that she received some much needed TLC from you. 🙂

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 10:54 am

        loved your “meds” for migraine..Haagan Daz!!

    • 04/23/2013 at 10:03 am

      Woohoo RnR…..outta the doghouse, and back into the sandbox! Welcome back, bro!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 10:55 am

        good to be back 🙂

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 10:11 am

      Hi Robert! So glad you’ve earned enough good husband tokens to come back to the sandbox, guilt free!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 10:56 am

        (for at least 4 days!)

    • 04/23/2013 at 10:14 am

      Hi Robherr {{hugs}}

  6. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 9:48 am

    Morning all. I see that arguments will be starting at 9:30 AZ time (yeah right) over the different motions. I certainly hope they are in camera.

    Now, what is going on with Anna?????????? Anybody have any idea? I just read her post, watched the 2 Rascal Flatts videos and I’m even more confused and worried about her. She’s obviously going through her own personal hell but I wish she would let us help!!! Selfishly, I feel like we’ve lost a vital part of our group 😦

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 10:06 am

      I hope she is ok…that post really worries me…..
      It hurts me that she is suffering so…I wish I could reach out to her…poor thing 😦

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 10:24 am

        Me too Jill. I feel so helpless but so want to give her a hug. It is really bothering me because so many of us would do anything for her. I truly hope she is OK!!!!!!!

        Anna – if you’re reading this I’m sending you {{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}} and lots of support. Just know that we are all here if you need us!!!!!!!!!

  7. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 9:52 am

    However, just because I was making sure I was ‘edifying’ my wife, didn’t mean I was “deedifying” Travis. I was thinking of him a lot. And Justice 4 Travis. And, as a sidecause, at least discussions about a change in our current usage of the jury system. I am tired of having to play to the lowest common denominator, in a system of one upmanship, time wasted, and the dubious use of experts.But I tried not to be obsessive about it all, during this “time-out” and I tried staying away from the computer and read more.

    So today we celebrate the birthday of William Shakespeare. I picked some books from the shelves, but no matter what I read, I could see the wobo or her duh-fence team in my mind.

    I was reading for example, of the “dark woman” of the sonnets who was – perhaps – in a wild love triangle with wild Will Shakespeare (then in his early 30’s) and a 17 year old stunner from Court, wired William Herbert, whose mother hired Wild Will to write some poems to him and help him grow up. One thing led to another, and Will ends up guilt ridden, a bit cynical and even – gulp – misogynistic as the trio breaks up.

    But you know Will– he rebounds big time and writes some of the greatest plays ever written, including “Othello” a play about an evil psychopath who is jealous of true love and drives others to fits of confusion and stabs one friend to death and causes the suicide stabbing death of the title character. Wobo pops her ugly head into my thoughts! I take out the garbage. Put fresh bags in place,

    I go back to reading abaout the dark lady of the sonnets. Well, seems she ends up like a 17 century version of LaLaViorrete! She writes a book and dies in 1564 ( nearly 40 years after poor Will passed).In her book – obviously 40 years behind the time – she lectured women who were not loyal to other women. She issued a “manifesto” for the rights of women and has these words for the activities of men:

    “.Forgetting they were born of woman, nourished of women, and that if it were not by the means of women they would be quite extinguished out of the world, and a final end of them all, do like vipers deface the wombes wherein they were bred.”

    See what rejection can do to some women?This one actually sounds like a combo wobo and LaLa.In any case, no luck avoiding trial thoughts. I go and spend time re-enforcing some shelves that started to dip to keep my mind away from the trial.

    • Lisa M
      04/23/2013 at 11:17 am

      Robert you hilariously reminded me of Miss Jodistein’s misuse of the word “edify.” I remember when she first said that in relation to Travis. I think she meant “deify.” In any case, I like your Shakespearian references as well and btw Rotterdam sounds beautiful.

  8. 04/23/2013 at 9:53 am

    Brought over. I know it’s silly, but have to lightened the mood of the day, bcuz I’m sure it’s gonna be a doosey!

    Good Morning, All!

    Step right up! Step right up! Now taking bets on whether there will be court today!

    $50 on inmate migraine…….odds 10:1
    $25 on jury tampering…….odds 2:1
    $1,000 on motion for a mistrial…..odds…CERTAIN!

    Place ya bets, folks!!!

    • 04/23/2013 at 10:12 am

      WITJ – while I admire your spruiking abilities.. 😀 . I’m sorry to say I can’t participate a whiff of dodgy permeates the air!

      I just hope none of it happens and we can get on with Juan building his case. 😉

  9. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 9:59 am

    I didn’t know this… Has he ever even spoken with JA?

  10. 04/23/2013 at 10:00 am

    Food For Thought

    IF the surreal rebuttal ( 🙂 ) continues it’s going to make the DT look even more desperate, Who knows, maybe they might think they will strike lucky with a juror if they bang it home long enough. Seems to be their strategy.

    It begs the question why if they knew Dr Janeen DeMarte had concluded BPD, which I assume they did, why didn’t they already have someone to rebutt her anyhow? ie presented the BPD diagnosis first – pre-emptive strike.

    To me that would have been a far better strategy. It’s not like Jodistein doesn’t have a huge downward pointing red arrow over head in neon lights proclaiming – “I could be diagnosed BPD”.. She most certainly does.

    The moment Dr D dropped the BPD diagnosis I pointed out this precipitates a sympathetic argument. It does! There is a lot of overlap with a PTSD symptomology, as subsequent testimony has born out. It’s a diagnosis founded on emotional turmoil.

    I think Jodi had a more than a hand in the defense ‘strategy’ because a diagnosis of BPD, although being favourable to her in many ways would not necessarily have needed the slander of Travis. Self Defense could well have been argued on perceived abandonment and threat of it.

    Result: Pre-empting Dr Demarte’s diagnosis and headed it off at the pass so to speak .. so why didn’t the defense go this way?

    1. They may have been too stupid to think of it .

    2. Jodistein directed or steered it to PTSD because of her refusal to alleviate the family’s need for an explanation of that day and because as far as Jodi is concerned that day is between her, Travis and God. (I use the last loosely when it comes to Jodi’s views on her standing with ‘Him’)

    BPD could not have included her bogus amnesia claims. That’s why the defense had to go with PTSD. Plus it is far easier to have all the character assassination ‘testimony’ tied in with a PTSD claim because abuse and PTSD are so often intrinsically entwined.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 10:42 am

      Syntara–the license plate from Psycho!!!!!!Was that the real thing?

      • 04/23/2013 at 10:45 am

        yes yes yessssss can you believe that????? NancyB posted it.. so I thought nah.. and researched it.. and then I found a link to the story of it…. ie nothing re Jodistein… all about the movie.. and YES!!! I assume that’s an actual photo of it. Can you believe that????? too weird!!

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 11:33 am

      Syntara: “It begs the question why if they knew Dr Janeen DeMarte had concluded BPD, which I assume they did, why didn’t they already have someone to rebutt her anyhow?”

      According to numerous commentary yesterday and today, the defense didn’t know
      DeMarte was going to diagnose borderline personality disorder. She sprung it on them during her testimony.

      That’s the ‘new information’ the defense is citing that gives them the right to call another witness.

      Most of the commentators think the judge will capitulate to the request, to avoid another reason for appeal. If she had any balls (or whatever the female equivalent) she’d tell the defense to take a hike on this one. As noted yesterday in the previous comments, the Arizona Supreme Court rarely, if EVER, grants a new trial for not agreeing to defense motion for surrebuttal. They almost ALWAYS respect the judge’s decision for those refusals. And Juan will have dozens of opinions backing that up for his argument to the judge against it.

      1 hour (optimistically) and counting… to see what she does

      • 04/23/2013 at 11:37 am

        I was under the impression that’s a legal disclosure requirement … ie the defense would have interviewed Dr JD just as Juan did Dodgy and LaLa

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 12:04 pm

        They knew …. they interviewed her in January of 2013! And the state produced her report back in 2011. Nothing new here … hence no sur-rebuttal.

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 12:48 pm

      Probably because they didn’t figure on Willanurmi to screw up their duh-fence as badly as she did! Just before she got up to do cross she probably told Nurm the Wurm….”don’t worry big boy…..I got this one!” Hah…..she got up there and made an ass out of herself and their duh-fence!! Went back and sat down with her tail between her legs!!

      • 04/23/2013 at 12:54 pm

        CC’Cs I need you to put your heads collectively together and come up with a why they are so bad though. The only think I can come up with is Jodi told them it’s gotta be PTSD and I can’t remember.

        What’s your take on it? Arrogance on the DT’s behalf? Ignorance?? Stupidity?? I don’t get it!!

  11. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 10:33 am

    This afternoon, thinking of Shakespeare on his birthday, I think of his great character, the malaprop spouting Dogberry in “Much Ado About Nothing” and as soon as I think of him, BAM! Doc Dodgy appears. I head for the supermarket.

    Strolling the aisles, similar packaging reminds me of the twin brothers from “The Comedy of Errors” and in a flash of a lightbulb in a shower, into my mind jumps two versions of that dopey son of the NBC guy that wanted to be an expert with eyeball readings. I check out in the “under 12 items” lane and head home.

    Later in the day. I tried to get away from thoughts of Shakespeare. by taking a bike read for some herb to vaporize, but on my way, a wind knocked my cap off and I think of “The Tempest” and of Propspero landing on a distant island populated by something named Caliban who shrieks and yells and moves awkwardly about, and before I can even think of cooking dinner, BAM! The Perkster herself is on my mind!

    Boy I’m glad that I can now start thinking about the trial. These days of not thinking about it were rough.
    .

    • 04/23/2013 at 10:38 am

      LOLOL!! Robert!! Something Wicked This Way Comes 😉

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 11:56 am

      It’s also the birthday of Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber (that anniversary was only four days ago, yet virtually nothing at all mentioned about it on main stream media).

      And also Herve Jean-Pierre Villechaize, the assistant on Fantasy Island: “The plane, the plane, boss!”

      And Max Planck, the Quantum theory developer…

      And Warren Spahn, MLB Hall of Fame left-handed pitcher – a star athlete Juan Martinez could learn a lot from. Not relying only on the fastball, he became known for his ability to outwit hitters with a variety of pitches. A master of the screwball and change-up, the key to his ongoing success was keeping the hitters off balance. “Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing,” He said: meaning don’t keep throwing the same pitch over and over again.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 12:03 pm

        longtime fan of Warren Spahn–363 wins!! Used to hit home runs as well.” Spahn and Sain and pray for Rain”

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 12:09 pm

        First we’ll use Spahn
        then we’ll use Sain
        Then an off day
        followed by rain
        Back will come Spahn
        followed by Sain
        And followed
        we hope
        by two days of rain.

        Spahn & Sain by Gerald V. Hern – published 1948

  12. Nancy Pennington
    04/23/2013 at 10:37 am

    For a fun read try: http://www.eggtree.com. I don’t know who writes it but it is a hilarious parody of this case. Sorry, I am not computer skilled enough to just post the link but it is easy to find.

    • 04/23/2013 at 11:00 am

      Thanks Nancy

  13. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 10:37 am

    I tried reading for example, of the “dark woman” of the sonnets who was – perhaps – in a wild love triangle with wild Will Shakespeare (then in his early 30’s) and a 17 year old stunner from Court, wired William Herbert, whose mother hired Wild Will to write some poems to him and help him grow up. One thing led to another, and Will ends up guilt ridden, a bit cynical and even – gulp – misogynistic as the trio breaks up.

    But you know Will– he rebounds big time and writes some of the greatest plays ever written, including “Othello” a play about an evil psychopath who is jealous of true love and drives others to fits of confusion and stabs one friend to death and causes the suicide stabbing death of the title character. Wobo pops her ugly head into my thoughts! I take out the garbage. Couple more hours…

    • 04/23/2013 at 10:41 am

      I knew it!! I knew it!!! I KNEW you wouldn’t be able to resist the Othello reference.

      You know she quotes Iago somewhere.. just to make it all the worse.. to prove she knew exactly what that play is about!

  14. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 10:39 am

    I go back to reading abaout the dark lady of the sonnets. Well, seems she ends up like a 17 century version of LaLaViorrete! She writes a book and dies in 1564 ( nearly 40 years after poor Will passed).In her book – obviously 40 years behind the time – she lectured women who were not loyal to other women. She issued a “manifesto” for the rights of women and has these words for the activities of men:

    “.Forgetting they were born of woman, nourished of women, and that if it were not by the means of women they would be quite extinguished out of the world, and a final end of them all, do like vipers deface the wombes wherein they were bred.”

    See what rejection can do to some women?This one actually sounds like a combo wobo and LaLa.In any case, no luck avoiding trial thoughts.

    • 04/23/2013 at 10:59 am

      LOL! Robert….. 🙄 I’m assuming none of this was told to your wife or you wouldn’t be here!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 11:02 am

      sorry for duplicate; I hit twice

  15. Nancy Pennington
    04/23/2013 at 10:39 am

    I am so UNskilled that I didn”t know the computer is smarter than I am and that it would post the link for me. WOW!

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 10:44 am

      Well done! Computers are so smart! Someone here posted from “Egg Tree” a couple of days ago (can’t remember who?) I ended up perusing there for over an hour and got some good laughs- very funny!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 11:27 am

      Atta go Nancy!!!!! 😀 I’m totally computer illiterate and it sometimes amazes me what I can do, usually it’s not on purpose though! 😆

  16. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 10:40 am

    Well this morning ought to be interesting (in a pull your hair out, grind your teeth kinds way) The Defense’s entire argument has been based on JA being a victim of DV and Self Defense- Now that it’s not looking good for JA, they make a “Hail Mary pass” in the eleventh hour, requesting to add to the juror instructions for manslaughter with “sudden quarrel” and “heat of passion”- now the jurors have a virtual smorgasbord to choose from!

    Interesting that she stole her Gramp’s gun, rented a car, used (3) gas cans, turned off her cell phone, etc. and brought a gun (and a knife) just “in case” Travis pissed her off, and she “suddenly” decided to use them.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 10:52 am

      I doubt if they’ll get added. Hopefully the judge will tell them they can’t have it both ways. I know this judge is lenient, but that would be simply lying down and letting JA drive right over her. Any semblance of a fair trial would go out the window.

      This judge simply has to remember that this is not all the JA show but also Justice for Travis!!!!

      It will be interesting though to see exactly what Wurmi has to say during this Hail Mary pass 🙄

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 11:15 am

        G’morning MMD:) I think they judge may allow both the surrebuttal and the manslaughter charges- She has been very lenient, because it’s a DP case. Ugh, it’s got to be brutal for the Alexanders to go through all of these delays- No matter what the judge allows today- I think your boyfriend will bring the facts home to the jury- I hope, I hope, I hope!

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 11:24 am

        Well FOL I have no doubt that JM will bring it home but I’m sick to death of hearing that this is a DP case. We know, JA knows and the Alexander family sure as hell knows. At some point the judge has to act like a judge and say enough is enough or this could go on forever.

        I want Justice for Travis and the Alexander family and for everyone to stop bending over backwards for that skank!!! All the judge and the DT is ending up doing is looking ridiculous and ruining their careers!!! (well that part doesn’t bother me)

        Enough!!!! Let’s finish the rebuttal and go to closing arguments!!! 👿

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 11:29 am

        Sorry – Morning Sweet Boy’s Mama 😀

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 11:50 am

        I thought of you this morning when I was giving Sweet Boy a nose rub- I told him that the nose rub was sent all the way from Canada!
        Yup, I hope the judge presses on and takes control and moves this trial along. Most of all, I dread the look of GLEE on JA’s face IF the judge rules in favor of the defense requests! “Winning!”. It’s my understanding that this is the judge’s first criminal case, let alone DP, talk about “baptism by fire”!!!

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 12:56 pm

        Judge needs to grow a pair and come out swinging!

    • Lisa M
      04/23/2013 at 11:34 am

      How many Hail Mary passes will this defense be allowed? My lord! I think the judge will allow both requests although I certainly hope she doesn’t allow the manslaughter charge. This is the problem with death penalty cases. I wonder if JM consulted with the Alexander family before deciding on the charges and if so, if he or the State in general was forthright with them about what it woukd require of them. The adversarial process of the justice system in and of itself is traumatic for victims and this particular case has to be traumatic beyond anything most people could withstand. I mean there could be health issues. How many people could withstand this type of prolonged stress?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 11:38 am

        Your concerns reminded me of a comment by a writer in the US who was active as a liberal and then became a “neo-conservative” which he described as a “liberal that was mugged by reality.” The “rights” of the defendant trump the “rights” of the victim in many cases. It makes one cynical.

  17. 04/23/2013 at 10:46 am

    I have a question for the legal eagles or whoever – probably been answered before. I understand how the DT is provided for the defendant, but how is the Prosecutor appointed? Is it a rotation, according to schedules or because he is the best qualified for such a horrendous crime?

    OBSERVER – that was a great summary of the DT disaster, from then and still ongoing.

    Today should be another waste of court time with the motions or whatever crap the DT has up their sleeves. Hopefully, Juan can get back on a roll and get things moving.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 11:26 am

      As I understand, cases are assigned to a specific prosecutor rather than just appointed on a rotation. Recall that the prosecutors office is “our” attorney, as in “we, the people”. So JM is doing his bit in our interest.

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 12:01 pm

        Thank you HJ. 🙂 Not being American I was also wondering that!!

  18. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 10:49 am

    Tried more reading of Will, and came across a real character. He is a Parliament member who Queen Elizabeth used as a torturer, His name was Richard Topcliffe. Even the Queens henchmn who supervised him, thought the guy too much. He built a torture chamber in his home for practice! He tortured the Jesuit Robert Southwell ( a cousin of Shakespeare) 10 times. From a record at the time:

    Southwell: I am decayed in memory with long and close imprisonment, and I have been tortured ten times. I had rather have endured ten executions. I speak not this for myself, but for others; that they may not be handled so inhumanely, to drive men to desperation, if it were possible.
    Topcliffe: If he were racked, let me die for it.

    Southwell: No; but it was as evil a torture, or late device.

    Topcliffe: I did but set him against a wall.

    Southwell: Thou art a bad man.

    Topcliffe: I would blow you all to dust if I could.

    Southwell: What, all?

    Topcliffe: Ay, all.

    Southwell: What, soul and body too?
    A bit chilly, eh? Southwell was finally hanged, drawn and quartered in 1595 after two and a half years in prison and at the malevolent whim of Topcliffe. Well, faster than I could say “New York minute”, Wurmi pops into my mind! Robert Southwell, I feel your pain.

  19. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 10:52 am

    I go back to reading about the dark lady of the sonnets. Well, seems she ends up like a 17 century version of LaLaViorrete! She writes a book and dies in 1564 ( nearly 40 years after poor Will passed).In her book – obviously 40 years behind the time – she lectured women who were not loyal to other women. She issued a “manifesto” for the rights of women and has these words for the activities of men:

    “.Forgetting they were born of woman, nourished of women, and that if it were not by the means of women they would be quite extinguished out of the world, and a final end of them all, do like vipers deface the wombes wherein they were bred.”

    See what rejection can do to some women?This one actually sounds like a combo wobo and LaLa.In any case, no luck avoiding trial thoughts

    • 04/23/2013 at 11:03 am

      you already posted this bit!! 😛

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 11:09 am

        i know feel stupid I hit it twice sorry

  20. Observer
    04/23/2013 at 10:54 am

    I think what is the most interesting about the court records is that Jodi Arias acted as her own counsel in presenting the forged pedophile letters. Could that be because her attorneys knew they were forged and refused to perpetuate a fraud on the court? As soon as the pedophile letters were not admitted, Jodi decided not to defend herself. Right after that she gave the letters to her mother to sell to the National Enquirer. They refused to print them. Still she perjured herself in court claiming Travis is a pedophile and abused her physically, emotionally and sexually, although she has zero evidence to prove it.

    This is typical of Jodi’s demented way of thinking. She is more concerned about public image than the fact that she murdered a human being. When she was arrested she asked if she could put her makeup on for her mugshot, did a handstand to bring color to her face and swung her head back and forth to fluff up her hair. She asked Flores if her arrest was going to be on the news, if Travis’s family was going to find out and if she could write a letter to Travis’s family.

    Against the advice of her attorneys, she gave several interviews from jail. Looking like a model who had just stepped out of hair and makeup, Jodi Arias purred in a soft sexy voice that no jury would convict her, she was innocent, would never hurt Travis and tried to save him from the two Ninjas who butchered him. She was a far cry from the Ugly Betty we see sitting at the defense table.

    Martinez exposed her lies and HLN talking heads agreed with him, she angrily tweeted that Martinez had anger management issues and Small Man’s Syndrome, HLN stood for Haters Love Negativity and that the bird she flipped in court was for Nancy Grace.

    If she was not behind bars, she would have hunted them down and slit their throats and shot them in the head. That’s what happens to people who cross Jodi Arias.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 11:01 am

      Observer, I cannot get the feeling out of my gut that JA has killed before and I’m not referring to the dog years ago. It could have been some homeless person that no one noticed missing or a runaway. I’m simply cannot believe that TA was the first. Someone somewhere crossed her and paid with their life 👿 jmo

      • Diana Bratt
        04/23/2013 at 4:06 pm

        I got that same gut feeling while looking at pictures of Bobby Juarez. I immediately thought “Yreka police need to check their cold case files”.

    • kCruz123
      04/23/2013 at 1:45 pm

      Observer, Great points. But, her vanity got the best of her once again last week. JA couldn’t stand that Dr. Demarte was on the witness stand. Not only was she up there demolishing the defense theories but she was looking cute as she was doing this. So JA thought she’d compete by wearing mascara & eye shadow. I don’t remember ever seeing someone in trial for their life being so … dumb (so many words fit there but will just go with dumb).
      So many things to be worried about right now but she’s worried about how she looks.

  21. 04/23/2013 at 11:05 am

    Jim where are you???

  22. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 11:16 am

    During my time away from the sandbox, I kept thinking of the
    “remote” in wobo’s rental car that she had to return to Darryl B. He told Juan that she was there about 7am for “breakfast” and left,She returned around 10am to return the remote. I mean she could have driven 50 miles and turned around to bring it back. Pretty important remote, eh? The You-Tube video calling it the “smoking gun” is right on imo.

    • 04/23/2013 at 11:19 am

      yeah… ya think it’s the smoking gun though?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 11:23 am

        well they didnt pursue it so I guess not. I wish Juan would have asked more about it a bit more though. In this case the enhanced pictures are the ‘smoking gun’ dont ya think?

      • 04/23/2013 at 11:31 am

        I want to see the duct tape in 3d. I still think it looks more than would have been on his arm but it’s so hard to tell from that pic and the way it’s laying it does look like a knife sheath but that could be just the way it presents in the photo.

        If.. IF it was used to cover the knife that is the smoking gun proving pre-meditation…. But assuming it’s just duct tape from his arm….

        The 25mm gun being rare…. that was a huge oversight on her part.

        and… surely the camera, and what was found on it… those photos and that time line in no way carry a self defense claim to a sane and rational person.

        Then the gas cans. She’s so super protective of that gas can story… that has HUGE relevance to her and Juan sees it as very important too.

        Then the cover-up and methodical alibi/s that turned into nonsense because Travis fought so hard and so much evidence was left.

    • 04/23/2013 at 11:40 am

      I guess if they could link that remote to the what was it that was stolen in the ‘break-in’ ? That would go to her taking that gun.. but surely that’s beyond a reasonable doubt already? I mean reasonable to a rational person?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 11:50 am

        Juanster didnt ask Darryl B if he lent the cans or exchanged in barter; he did say they weren’t returned but didnt offer anything else. Also, I noticed that he said “yes” when Juan asked him if she asked for the cans “to go on a trip to Mesa” but later in cross said, she didnt mention Mesa. Think Juan figured not worth it to hold him to his first answer.

      • 04/23/2013 at 11:51 am

        yes oh I picked up on the Mesa back peddle big time!

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 12:27 pm

      The big problem with all the stolen stuff is that JA was never charged with having been the one who stole them. The best JM can do here is “lead the horse to water and hope they drink”. If he makes too much of it, other than it is another of MANY coincidences that occurred around the time of the murder, it could be an issue on appeal.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 12:29 pm

      It is really weird though …. who would turn around and drive all that way back to deliver a remote?

  23. Lisa M
    04/23/2013 at 11:20 am

    I think when this trial is over (or maybe sooner) someone should figure out the average amount of hours of actual testimony before the jury in this trial per week. Anyone want to take on the job?

  24. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 11:45 am

    Another thing I was reminded of, was the saying – one hears it often – that a “lawyer should never ask a question he doesn’t know the answer to” and all during Perky’s cross of Dr Janeen, I kept thinking of this. I mean she must have asked a dozen – maybe 2 dozen- questions she didnt know the answer to!

    • 04/23/2013 at 11:49 am

      yeah I KNOW!!!! It was like she had absolutely no idea of the subject matter at all. Is she so stupid she didn’t research it? I don’t understand that at all.. but I can’t work out why the defense does anything it does.. so why should I even 🙄 at anything anymore

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 11:57 am

      and just think – she actually mentors new attorneys 😉

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 12:14 pm

      I think she was hoping to “smoke screen” the jury …. my all time favorite was when Wilnot wanted to use some chart and Dr. D said she did not use the chart and Wilnot says “well…. lets look at it anway…” I hope that was not lost on the jurors! Unlike us, they don’t get to see replays or talk about it at all ….yet…

  25. 04/23/2013 at 11:47 am

    Robert…… Did you see the vid I posted? To the theme “fake it” “You’re such a fkn hypocrite?” The clips in it are spot on!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 11:51 am

      YES! good one

  26. ctc111
    04/23/2013 at 11:50 am

    Donchais. Just to let you know. you are the best for this.
    If I didn’t say thanks before, I am saying it now.
    thank you for this form!

    • 04/23/2013 at 11:51 am

      HI ctc111 *waves* hope you are doin’ great 🙂

      • ctc111
        04/23/2013 at 6:45 pm

        thanks. what is going on, missed this agternoon. IN CHAMBERS?

  27. SeniorMoments
    04/23/2013 at 11:59 am

    Hello Everyone! I’ve been reading for a few weeks but haven’t posted. Donchais, we were on a great blog board during the Spector trials and I have periodically dropped in here since you started your blog. I like reading here because everyone is civil and there is no hateful name calling. Thank you for that!

    I wanted to add a comment to thank Observer for the DT summary. I came late to this case (for JA testimony) and appreciate the background information I missed! So, I’ll just continue reading along!

    • donchais
      04/23/2013 at 12:03 pm

      Senior Moments {{ }}, so good to see you! Jump in anytime, folks here are great!

  28. Moon
    04/23/2013 at 12:04 pm

    Good Juanday to you all! Tried my best to rewatch some of hodi’s testiphony but crashed and burned. Didn’t get to see that vid “fake-it” any chance to repost it here? thx

  29. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 12:06 pm

    Since Wild about Trial broke his ankle, his tweets may be funnier today.

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    My salmon slanket makes it tough to look cool. It is always getting caught up in the hwheels. Need to cut it to length. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    The security guards had a good laugh at me as I rolled through the scanners today. Glad I can make people smile. 🙂

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Mike B. the court reporter is wearing his famous ravishing purple shirt

  30. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 12:07 pm

    Morning Moon and Welcome Senior Moments 😀

  31. 04/23/2013 at 12:09 pm

    Can someone please enlighten me? When I refresh the page, all the posting #s change, obviously due to new replies. How do you know which are new without re-reading from the beginning?

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 12:17 pm

      I do it by looking at the time of the post.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 12:19 pm

      You don’t – have to reread them. By the way, I have an issue with your name!!!! If you are 58 or born in ’58, you’re most certainly NOT old 🙄 I mean, every age group is represented here – just look at Syn – she’s 110 but doesn’t look or act a day over 109 😆

      • 04/23/2013 at 12:32 pm

        MMD – lol. I explained to Syn recently as she felt the same way. Yes born in ’58, I normally use brightgirl b/c of location. Never participated in a blog b4. When trying to figure out how to define myself, I didn’t want it to appear that I thought I was “bright” knowing the intelligence quotient here is so high – couldn’t even begin to compare. Syn now calls me Hey girl

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 12:41 pm

        Well go with brightgirl. I am completely computer illiterate as are many others on here but we all have different educational and life experiences. That’s what makes this blog, along with our awesome host who runs the School of Donchais, so awesome. Everyone has something unique to contribute and that’s what makes this blog unique. Plus we are always respectful, unless ya try and steal JM from me as I have had dibs on him for a long, long, time!!!

        So switch back to brightgirl 😆 Oldgirl sounds so pejorative!!! 😦 I’m sure donchais will let you! 😀

      • 04/23/2013 at 12:59 pm

        ok, i’ll see if I can figure that out. Now re JM, isn’t it funny how we’re drawn to him. People can be so superficial by looking at the outside first. Case in point, my daughter was singing at a venue where numerous people were dancing, older crowd. What caught all of our eyes was the smalller framed man handling his lovely in such a way that was mesmerizing. He was showing her such respect and yet it was so sensual. In fact he was far from attractive, but all the women in our group, including my 29 year old daughter, were just so taken with him. He was Juan hot man. Ok I digress but I can relate! Down girl (me!).

  32. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 12:14 pm

    Syntara: Don’t know if you already got your question answered about the ripped out journal pages, but
    if not, you can view testimony on Day 26 Part 3 at the 12:45 mark – (Bill Twell youtube).
    🌷🌷🌷

    • 04/23/2013 at 12:17 pm

      ty will check that out! 😀

  33. 04/23/2013 at 12:16 pm

    Is anyone just as tired of this….the media referring to JA’s beauty and being gorgeous. I don’t see it! Of course, esp now she’s, purposely I feel, looking more gaunt and she’s nothing without her makeup. However, even with that, she’s not so striking I would fall over as dead for her (if I was a male). It has to be her slinky, slippery ways – the persona she created. I recall someone saying how she dressed inappropriately for a business function with nothing but a blazer (something like that). True – NOTHING at all? That meant whatever position she decided to strike, all the attention was on her, negative or positive. And no one would have said anything? Seemed like she was a piranha, using her womanly (childish) ways.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 12:22 pm

      I think that she is purposely starving herself as well as lowering her seat to look smaller and more helpless, which we all know she’s not. I don’t find her the least bit attractive but Syn will be able to give you the complete psychological profile of her as she is our resident expert! 🙂

      See my reply to your comment upstairs! 😉

    • 04/23/2013 at 12:29 pm

      No no piranha… raffelesia!!!

      Rafflesia cantleyi, perhaps better known as the corpse flower for its pungent scent, steals everything from its host.

      Though each blossom can be in excess of three feet across, the massive buds cannot support themselves, and have no leaves, stalks or true roots.

      Instead, they rely entirely upon their vine host,Tetrastigma rafflesiae, for survival.

      Harvard researchers have now discovered that food and water aren’t the only things the corpse flowers steal – over the course of evolutionary history, Rafflesia has also stolen Tetrastigma‘s genes.

      • 04/23/2013 at 12:34 pm

        Chispas!!!!!

    • kristin
      04/23/2013 at 12:42 pm

      My husband, nor I, sees what media sees! She has zero natural beauty. I’m no hater so I can freely admit if a woman is attractive! It reminds me of when Amanda knox was on trial in Italy. I kept hearing some of the media calling her a blonde. She isn’t a blonde but they wanted to sensationalize the case further.

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 12:44 pm

        Morning darlin’ – how’re things in pineapple land? 🙂

      • kristin
        04/23/2013 at 1:47 pm

        Good morning!! Lush and tropical lol! I’m sending aloha all the way north to you!

  34. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 12:24 pm

    Every time I hear WOBO assert “Travis said he would have won the wife lottery with me.” I think not of money, but of “The Lottery” by Shirley Jackson. Sadly, that is in fact the lottery he won.

  35. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 12:25 pm

    Morning Schaeffer 🙂 **********waves*********

    • Schaeffer
      04/23/2013 at 12:32 pm

      Good morning, my dear.

  36. Observer
    04/23/2013 at 12:26 pm

    MMD, you may be right. She had to have killed before or researched how to get away with murder because every step she took on her murder trip took a lot of planning.

    Calling Daryl to borrow the gas cans, calling Ryan and planning a trip to Salt Lake for the PPL convention and to hook up with him, staging a burglary to steal her grandfather’s gun, renting a light colored car with no GPS 90 miles from Yreka and wearing a blond wig or dying her hair so she wouldn’t be recognized., removing the front license plate and turning the back license plate upside down so no one could see the license plate as she sneaked in and out of Arizona, filling the gas cans in Sacramento so there was no receipt or picture of her on a surveillance tape in Arizona and taking the battery out of her cell phone so it didn’t ping on any towers in Arizona.

    She even admitted she left a message on Travis’s cell phone, texted and emailed him AFTER killing him, inserted herself into the police investigation, sent flowers to Travis’s grandmother, wrote a letter to the Alexander family blaming Ninjas and attended Travis’s memorial to throw the suspicion off her.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 12:33 pm

      The truth always has a way of coming out eventually and I would bet money that this will come out eventually once she is headed to Death Row, hopefully, because she won’t be able to help herself and not brag about it. (once all her appeals have been exhausted)

      There is NO way she could have had all these plans without practicing before, simply to know in her own mind that she COULD do it. She wouldn’t have gotten that confidence simply by researching, imo! It’s a scary thought isn’t it? 👿 For all we know, there could be many more that she killed!

    • Schaeffer
      04/23/2013 at 12:48 pm

      I don’t think she has killed anyone before, because she would have been caught. Several times she has referred to crime/drama shows she has watched, but apparently she never watched them all the way to the end, because the criminal always gets caught. Between her delusions of intelligence and delusions of grandeur, she thought she had all the bases covered and would get away with it, but obviously she did not. That is why she kept giving Detective Flores tips from “WOBO’s Helpful Hints in Forensic Investigation Techniques” — because she thought she knew so much. Detective Flores told her and several others, repeatedly, there was “a ton of evidence in that house, and it ALL points to [WOBO] and nobody else.” Also, every single person Travis knew said, immediately, “It was Jodi. She either did it, or she had it done.” That is pretty damning in and of itself. Also, while she did cling to her other boyfriends after they dumped her, there is no evidence she was ever obsessed with anyone to the level she was with Travis. Finally, 28 is pretty much the textbook age at which serial killers begin killing. She has been despicable and without a single redeeming value her entire life, but she is not a seasoned murderer.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 1:20 pm

        except for that disappearing dog. I mean what dog “disappears” after being “kicked”?

  37. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 12:27 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi has been in and out of reclination this morning. He seems a bit stressed as he sighed a few times. Travis’ family is here. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Judge is still hearing other cases. I predict a 10:00am start time but it might be sooner. Keep your ankles crossed. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan’s next witness is a female, I heard them talking but was not rude enough to look into the room behind me and see her. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi’s suit is dark blue, his tie is blue stripes. Juan had on a dark suit, he went back into room before I could see his tie. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan is right beside me talking to his next witness, explaining the swearing in process and where to go to get on the stand

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 12:47 pm

      What, no salmon references?

  38. Wendy
    04/23/2013 at 12:42 pm

    Hello everyone!!! 😋🌺

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 12:43 pm

      Morning darlin’ 😀

    • kristin
      04/23/2013 at 12:43 pm

      Hey!

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 12:46 pm

        I said hi to you upstairs! You just rolling out of bed? 😉

  39. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 12:43 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Defense has come out of chambers, Flores, Juan and Steven went back in to chambers. Spectators were just let in.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 12:46 pm

      Steven?

      • Nienna
        04/23/2013 at 12:47 pm

        TA’s brother

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 12:46 pm

      Ha! You beat me. My computer is running slow today.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 12:49 pm

        thanks

  40. Wendy
    04/23/2013 at 12:45 pm

    Help!! I can’t find my live feed!

  41. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 12:46 pm

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial
    Defense has come out of chambers, Flores, Juan and Steven went back in to chambers. Spectators were just let in

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 12:47 pm

      great minds lol – darlin’ pay attention upstairs!!!!!! 😉

      • Nienna
        04/23/2013 at 12:48 pm

        It’s the fog!

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 12:59 pm

        I knew it Nienna 😆

  42. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 12:47 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi and Willmott are headed into chambers now

  43. donchais
    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 12:55 pm

      G’ morning Donchais! Oh Gawwwd! There’s the best reason of all for the judge to deny the surrebuttal! ECK!

  44. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 12:49 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    #JodiArias just went back into chambers as well. I wonder when I will get invited back there for some festivities?

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Jodi is here with light blue top, medium umbrella bangs and glasses. Tan pantalones

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 12:51 pm

      Who pays for her clothes?

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 12:56 pm

        Her family or family friends. Pretty soon she will need none.

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 12:57 pm

        Good Will? Salvation Army? Or maybe her bestie JW cleans out her closet and shares?

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 12:57 pm

        except for prison garb… what’s the average death verdict wait in jail? 8 to 12 years?

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 1:03 pm

        Serious? I don’t know the average in the state of AZ but I would say a minimum of 15 — probably closer to 20.

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 1:09 pm

        Wikipedia says 15 years average in Arizona…

  45. 04/23/2013 at 12:51 pm

    Oh lord wont ya buy me a judge who’s on time
    I’m sick of this late crap it ain’t worth a dime
    Just get your court gavel and smack on the bench
    I’m so sick of waiting for a verdict on this wench.

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 12:53 pm

      Good one! Lol

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 1:15 pm

        Hahahaha a poet too!

    • 04/23/2013 at 12:58 pm

      Haha! Awesome!

    • Moon
      04/23/2013 at 1:01 pm

      lol right on!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:02 pm

      Atta go Syn!!! Summed everything up in 4 lines 😆

  46. Wendy
    04/23/2013 at 12:58 pm

    Got it! I thought I was going to have to miss it.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:01 pm

      Now ya know we’d never let that happen!!! 😉

  47. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:01 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I believe they are discussing the use of knooters for all counsel and witnesses back in chambers. I could be wrong though. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Someone asked if my wheels were 20’s but sadly they are only 5’s. 😦

  48. 04/23/2013 at 1:02 pm

    You’d be amazed at the amount of housework you can get done when this trial isn’t on!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:06 pm

      😯 Stop it this second!!! I haven’t done a damn thing since this trial started because I’m so involved. I will not be guilted into housework!!!! That’s my story and I’m sticking to it! 😦

      • Wendy
        04/23/2013 at 1:11 pm

        Lol!! I’m trying to finish bridesmaid dresses and I can’t cause I keep watching the trial. I’m too tired to work on them when it’s done for the day.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 1:09 pm

      My husband could not agree more!!!!

  49. 04/23/2013 at 1:05 pm

    Call me Octopus. Figuring out how to stream live, monitoring posts here, watching HLN on mute in case net goes down, finding iPad for ‘nother backup, and yet trying to work from home. arghhh! How have I gotten so obsessed? Husband comes up every now and then asking so what’s new.

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:09 pm

      lol Heygirl… that’s me… but with tv ➡ imac ➡ Ipad :arrows: research boyfriend gave up and ran away.

      • Jill
        04/23/2013 at 1:11 pm

        Hi octopus, yes, that’s me too! 2 iPads, tv…makes me feel a bit nutty.

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 1:15 pm

        Syn how many days left on his bike trip??????

      • 04/23/2013 at 1:15 pm

        Sunday he comes home MMD

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:10 pm

      How does Octi sound but you’re gonna have to change it on your avatar!!! Have to keep the brain cells free to take in what trial testiphony that we do receive plus all that is taught her in the School of Donchais!!!! Plus you’re miles ahead of me, I don’t have an iPad. I have a hard enough time with my laptop 😉

      • 04/23/2013 at 1:30 pm

        Great suggeestion. I’m screaming throught out the house – where is my iPad? freaking out!

    • PAM
      04/23/2013 at 1:31 pm

      That’s so funny…that is me too. Working from home, cleaning the cob webs and cat hair from all rooms and have trial on HLN in 2 rooms….streaming live on computer…..getting anxiety over all…..I Yi Yi.

  50. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 1:07 pm

    Jay :
    except for prison garb… what’s the average death verdict wait in jail? 8 to 12 years?

    From Wikipedia “Death Row”

    In the United States, prisoners may wait years before execution can be carried out due to the complex, expensive, and time-consuming appeals procedures mandated in the jurisdiction. The time between sentencing and execution has increased relatively steadily between 1977 and 2010, including a 22% jump between 1989 and 1990 and a similar jump between 2008 and 2009. In 2010, a death row inmate waited an average of 178 months (or close to 15 years) between sentencing and execution.[1] Nearly a quarter of deaths on death row in the U.S. are due to natural causes.[2]

    And Jodistein is female …. so these stats do not really apply to her.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:13 pm

      Does that differentiate between state and federal cases because federal cases seem to execute much more quickly???? Inquiring minds would like to know! 🙂 Plus don’t forget, I’m more than willing to come from Canada and give her the injection – I’d even get over my queasiness of needles just for her!!! 🙂

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 1:21 pm

        Fed is faster. What will happen is her appeals will exhaust the State system and then she flips to the Federal system. So, it will be much longer.

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 1:23 pm

        For example, Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma Bomber, was 6 years from time of the crime to execution. We are already at 5 years with JA, and still in trial!

      • Commerce1
        04/24/2013 at 1:26 am

        Don’t forget….Timothy McVay was executed on an expedited schedule because he asked to be. He withdrew his appeals.

  51. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Jay :
    except for prison garb… what’s the average death verdict wait in jail? 8 to 12 years?

    In AZ, average length of time between sentencing and execution is 12 years.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 1:10 pm

      Schaeffer: Do you know the last time AZ executed a woman?

      • Schaeffer
        04/23/2013 at 1:59 pm

        Since 1976, when capital punishment was reinstated, 34 men have been executed. No women have been executed in that time frame.

        Eva Dugan was a convicted murderer, and she was actually much like WOBO in her attitude, defiance, smugness, etc. When they hanged her in 1930, she was inadvertently decapitated. Her head actually popped off and rolled to a stop near the feet of the spectators; five people fainted, including three men. This incident prompted AZ to change their method of execution from hanging to the gas chamber. They now use lethal injection.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 1:11 pm

      However long by then she’ll look like her mother with even paler skin…

  52. Wendy
    04/23/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Well, where is it?

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:17 pm

      where is what darlin’?

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 1:19 pm

        never mind…….smh ……..I assume you’re referring to court!!!!! Ya know on a Monday that is on a Tuesday we’re lucky to get started a few minutes before the lunch break 😦

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 1:20 pm

        Truth, Justice, and American Apple Pie, baby-doll…

      • Wendy
        04/23/2013 at 1:21 pm

        This trial that always starts on time😝

  53. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Arias in chambers now, making her case to the judge
    (with apologies to Janis Joplin)

    Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a new Expert Wit
    One who don’t care about the truth, even a bit
    Who’ll work that my lifetime is extended a while
    So that hundreds of appeals I’ll be able to file..

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:18 pm

      Excellent Jay – Janis would approve!!! 🙂

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:21 pm

      Oh lord wont ya buy me decent head shrinkers
      The last two they sent me were absolute stinkers
      My memory is lacking and I’m so traumatised
      Cos I don’t think the jury is buying my lies.

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 1:24 pm

        You guys are soooo talented! 🙂 I’m sticking with my original lied, cried, gonna be fried!!!!! Still can’t believe I’m saying this as I’m so against the DP but not in this case!!!!!

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 1:25 pm

        🙂

  54. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:16 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Valerie just popped in and grabbed some legal pads from the bench and headed back into chambers

  55. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:20 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    I like how they tease us with the screen lowering, then continue to let us sit patiently and talk amongst ourselves.

    • Wendy
      04/23/2013 at 1:23 pm

      At the rate they are going I might actually make some headway on these dresses. Lol

  56. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Syntara :
    Sunday he comes home MMD

    OMG Syn that was an incredibly short 22 days!!!!! We probably managed to get say 19 hours of testiphony (and I’m being generous) while he was gone!!!

  57. Moon
    04/23/2013 at 1:22 pm

    so so maddening! i suppose it will start just in time for the lunch break. wonder how many books each juror has been able to finish with all this WAITING!! argh

  58. 04/23/2013 at 1:22 pm

    I’m sorry, but this isn’t due process, it’s a freakin joke! This defense team is a joke! Does Judge “I can’t Start Court On Time” Stephens ever deny Gidget or Wurmi a request to approach. Are all Judge Stephens idiotic decisions based on her fear of an appeal or mistrial? Good grief Judge, get control of your damn Court!

    Our system gives a known murderess all the due process she wants, while the real victim rots in his grave.

    Sorry, just a bit disgusted with the defense team and the judge this A.M. 😦

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:25 pm

      me too I’m gonna be snoozin if it doesn’t start soon! No consideration! It’s 1:30am here. Judge get your freakin act together!

      • 04/23/2013 at 1:39 pm

        Hey Syn.

        I have a bad attittude this morning! 😉 Hope you can stay awake between all of Gidget’s “Your Honor, may we approach?” 😀

  59. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 1:24 pm

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial
    Counsel is back as well as #JodiArias and Mike B. Juan is headed to the side room with Flores. I think he is getting his next witness

    YAY!!!

  60. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:26 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi has his reclination level set to 10 as we wait for the judge and the jury. Tune in no

  61. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:27 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan just came out, a young male with light blue shirt and curly hair was with him and is seated behind him

    I wonder if he is the computer expert????????

    And away we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. 04/23/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Juan has a salmon tie

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 1:30 pm

      Why yes he is!!!

  63. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Syn – are Chrissie and Trace joining us today???

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:35 pm

      Chrissie I think is working… Trace as far as I knew was going to be here but she’s gone to see a friend who she was going to introduce to the live streaming.. so not sure if she will be here or not

  64. 04/23/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Here we go!

  65. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:29 pm

    Earlier that comment on Wormi’s salary–why did they up his hourly rate? He was in the public defenders office; he got a case; should be end of story. How the heck did he pull that one off? Saying he wants to leave on his own. Big deal! he had a job and should have finished it. What a joke-who is going to pay this oaf $225 an hour for 2 years? Socialism for the rich and the poor; capitalism for evryone else.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 1:36 pm

      Check out the post way upstairs by Observer. Nurmi tried to dump JA as a client when he went to private practice.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 3:21 pm

        but that was denied since he was a public defender on a case; he could’ve gone private after his obligation.; seems like the Judge was generous with other peoples money.

  66. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 1:29 pm

    SWEET!!!!

  67. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:30 pm

    wobo looking around the room giving her reptile tongue action a workout

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 1:34 pm

      Because there is a young male within 30 feet!

      • 04/23/2013 at 1:36 pm

        yeah! omg

  68. 04/23/2013 at 1:31 pm

    B***h is paying attention NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 1:32 pm

      Can’t believe she has the gall to stare him down like she is…

  69. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Thank goodness Gidget FINALLY got rid of her blood dipped talons!!!!

  70. Jill
    04/23/2013 at 1:33 pm

    Lol..but she still has her smirk

  71. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 1:33 pm

    Jumping up and down in my chair!!!!

  72. Jane
    04/23/2013 at 1:34 pm

    Oh no, Jodi’s eyes are droopy, tired unfocussed. Are they drugging her to subdue her cocky self?

  73. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:34 pm

    Wow, Wurmi is actually moving faster than Gidget today!!!! That’s a new one!

  74. 04/23/2013 at 1:35 pm

    Blondish or white on his lap! haha! It’s the Yehti!!!!!!!!!!

  75. 04/23/2013 at 1:36 pm

    FAKE TEARS ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  76. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:36 pm

    JA is trying her fake crying 😉

  77. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:36 pm

    Still cant get over in the 48 hrs show, wobo calling herself “an artist and photographer” Guess we’re gonna see the video wityh wobo bored and lying around while Travis talks of death experience?

  78. 04/23/2013 at 1:37 pm

    Oh s**t! She’s about to snap!!!!!!!!! Look out Gidget!!!

  79. 04/23/2013 at 1:37 pm

    she’s doing the sad face to get him to feel sorry for her… ya wahhhhhhhaaateverrr

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 1:39 pm

      ahhhh! wobo acting “sad”

  80. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:38 pm

    “seems to be something blonde on his lap” Hahahahah

  81. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 1:38 pm

    What in the Hell is WOBO “weepy” about???

  82. 04/23/2013 at 1:38 pm

    jodistein makes me PUKE!

  83. 04/23/2013 at 1:39 pm

    Notebook and pencil stubs confiscated?? Me thinks!!!

  84. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 1:39 pm

    She’s Verklempt!! Trying to squeak out some tears!!

  85. Jill
    04/23/2013 at 1:39 pm

    Isn’t Juan going to let the jury hear travis tell the story so that they can hear his voice? And why didn’t he get to show jodi lying on his lap then getting up and acting all bored and disinterested as travis tells how he had a gun to his head

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 1:44 pm

      I heard that it was arued by the defense that TA talking about having a gun to his head, and fearing for his life, would be prejudicial- so they only allowed to be played without sound.

  86. 04/23/2013 at 1:39 pm

    OMG she is soooo trying to make him feel sorry for here.. my god she is more ’emotional’ than looking at Travis’ dead body after she slaughtered him

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 1:40 pm

      So true

  87. 04/23/2013 at 1:40 pm

    Chicken Wing Alert!!!

  88. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Oh Gawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwddddddddddddddddddddd – we’ve got Wurmi on cross,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Please give us patience and tolerance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cause we’re gonna need it!!! 😦

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:46 pm

      I’m sure will also be treated to his left wrist fling. At first I thought he was doing it to adjust his watch; now I think it’s because he thinks it’s sexy. Kind of like his socks. Epic fail!

  89. 04/23/2013 at 1:41 pm

    epic fail he ain’t buying it Jodistein!!!

  90. 04/23/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Aw…poor little Jodi is in tears. Little brat probably has an onion she sniffs when needed.

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:44 pm

      hahhhahh!!! thats why she keeps smelling her tissue! you may be onto something there Mark!

  91. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Wurmi makes me want to puke.

  92. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:42 pm

    OH NO torture time!

  93. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Great! he corrects Wormi!!! They keep asking questions they dont klnow the answer to!

  94. 04/23/2013 at 1:43 pm

    who is amanda webb plse?

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:45 pm

      scratch this I know now 😀

  95. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Who’s Amanda?

  96. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 1:44 pm

    OHHHH WALMART!!!

  97. 04/23/2013 at 1:44 pm

    Oooohhhhh Walmart witness!!!

  98. Jill
    04/23/2013 at 1:45 pm

    Noooo…wait, I want the jury to see the video and hear travis telling the story of having a gun to his head while jodi just lays there bored as can be…..

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 1:46 pm

      That might happen when his wife is called.

      • Jill
        04/23/2013 at 1:49 pm

        Oh mmd…I hope so….they need to hear travis’ voice other than sex tape

  99. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:45 pm

    who says theye were having sex?

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:46 pm

      one person.. Jodi!

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 1:46 pm

        Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  100. 04/23/2013 at 1:45 pm

    gas can alert

  101. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:45 pm

    Oh I lovvvvvvvvvvvve that they have the Walmart Rep!!!!!! Atta go my man Juan!!!!!! xoxoxoxoxoxox

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 1:51 pm

      Did Wild say anything about you laying out that beautiful salmon tie for him today?

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 1:54 pm

        No but Wild should have – must be because of his pain meds that he neglected to mention it!!!!!!!

      • Nienna
        04/23/2013 at 1:56 pm

        Lol. He did mention JM suit but couldn’t see his tie at the time. Didn’t know if he said anything later. Thought he’d particularly like this one 🙂

  102. 04/23/2013 at 1:46 pm

    Jay :
    A quick calculator check indicates he’s already grossed AT LEAST a million dollars from the trial: 2 years @ 225 an hour. minimum of 40 hours a week, that’s 225x40x104 = $936,000, not counting overtime (lots of that right) and perks. Most of that money will be tax
    deductible. Newly self-employed, he’ll have numerous write-offs: new office, computers and printers, furniture (high-tech recliners in every room
    (Mickee Daniels, you need to do a video segment on that, with background music & lyrics from Fiddler On The Roof — If I was a rich man- ya ha deedle deedly, DUMB… )

    Hey Jay don’t mean to mess up your calculations but I think both DP make 250.00 per hr.
    It was brought up last week somewhere.

  103. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:46 pm

    Moving right along! That witness had a nice blunt way about him

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:48 pm

      ya specially to wormy

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:52 pm

      He was an excellent witness! Good grief, Gidget would just be getting warmed up if she were the one doing cross! 😉

  104. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:48 pm

    OK the Perry Mason bit–gas can!

  105. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:50 pm

    the duh-fence will argue that she brought it to a cashier–not customer service

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 1:53 pm

      Covered! Go Juan!

  106. 04/23/2013 at 1:50 pm

    Wilma looks particularly sickening today in her puke green

  107. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 1:50 pm

    Can Wobo possibly say she brought the gas cans to a different store to return…say Target or K Mart?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 1:53 pm

      who knows? Maybe the fog enveloped her

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 1:55 pm

      Think she testified that she went back to Wallmart “where she bought it” so no other store names came up or were mentioned when she was crossed by JM.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 1:56 pm

      She could say it but nobody on the jury would believe it…

  108. Wendy
    04/23/2013 at 1:53 pm

    There are 30 registers but only 2 are open!!

  109. 04/23/2013 at 1:54 pm

    Im sorry but really not liking Wilma’s outfit

  110. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:55 pm

    Gidget and Wurmi and thinking ” ok now how can we twist and distort this to go our way. May have to lie”

  111. 04/23/2013 at 1:56 pm

    oh the guy left the stand and Jodi has miraculously recoverred

  112. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:56 pm

    If Wurmi decides that he has to examine every single page we are so totally screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 1:57 pm

      🙂 🙂

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 1:58 pm

      Lol

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 1:58 pm

      HUSH your mouth NOW!! –> Knocking on wood.

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:58 pm

      a la the laundry in the bag

  113. Wendy
    04/23/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Perky looked like she added a lil xtra twist walking to the bench.

  114. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 1:57 pm

    Coloring book and crayons have been given back.

  115. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 1:57 pm

    Stay awake Syn – this is going fast!!!! Can’t fall asleep today!!!

    • 04/23/2013 at 1:59 pm

      its ok when juan is up it’s the cross stuff that sends me zzzzing 😛

  116. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 1:57 pm

    I see Stubby is back at it. Crafting away!

  117. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 1:58 pm

    wobo testified she was given cash, Einstein

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:00 pm

      jodistein!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 2:02 pm

        sorry I cant use her name–even a portion of it. I like the idea of you using it for a paper, but for me, nada

  118. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Shoot… Wurmi will cause JM is!! (Going through every page)

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 2:02 pm

      Only the registers, not every transaction total hopefully!!!!!!!!!!!!! fingers crossed!

  119. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Oh he’s good and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thorough!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s my man Juan 😀

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:04 pm

      OMG! Gonna pretend that there was no underlaying innuendo insinuated here 🙂

  120. 04/23/2013 at 2:01 pm

    ahhh she left it at 13 and now remembers she didnt get any cash

  121. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Watch her demeanor….as soon as she can see her goose is cooked she looks away and starts doing something else. Willanurmi is asking her questions and she just mumbles an answer and just sits there like a lump on a log.

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:04 pm

      can we say Liar liar pants on fire!

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 2:06 pm

        Big time LIAR!!! Hah!!

  122. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Wilnot just wrote down “We’re Screwed!” LOL

  123. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:03 pm

    OMG! every register! I love it!

  124. PK
    04/23/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Oh Lord, now I can buy me a full lipo suck
    thanks to ridin’ the Jodi train I’m rolling in bucks
    through lying, cheating and 50 shades of smut
    I’ll soon look just like Bluto but without my fat gut

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:06 pm

      OMG! the unending creativity of the peeps!

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 2:06 pm

      Ha Ha…

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 2:07 pm

        Robert you need to do one in Shakespearean English

  125. 04/23/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Wtf is up with Hodi? If she falls asleep, and court is adjourned for the day…AGAIN!!! I will ………Aaaarrgghhh!!!!

  126. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:07 pm

    anyone care to venture a guess at the cross? What do they ask? Or do they just say no questions?

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 2:09 pm

      You’d think that they would say, no questions, but it looks like they are whispering back and forth like they have something up their sleeve.

  127. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 2:07 pm

    HTH do ya return a prescription??????????????

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:09 pm

      ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Schaeffer
      04/23/2013 at 2:24 pm

      Actually, I’ve done it when I realized the meds I received were not the meds prescribed, or the manufacturer (of a generic) was not the one I wanted. Of course, I am good friends with my pharmacist, who has a little mom and pop operation, and is a wonderful man — he and Juan are very similar. It’s rare, but it can happen; maybe not at Wal Mart, though.

      • Lisa M
        04/23/2013 at 3:42 pm

        I miss those mom and pop pharmacies! You don’t see any of those around anymore.

  128. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 2:08 pm

    Well you know, that Jodi just has the worst luck – there must have been a computer
    glitch that occurred for her gas can return!!

  129. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 2:08 pm

    Wait….so JA lied about returning the gas can??? No way!! 🙄

    • Marilyn N
      04/23/2013 at 2:10 pm

      She kept it but didn’t fill it with gas! haha

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 2:12 pm

        LOL!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

      I know, right!

  130. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:10 pm

    OMG!! NO QUESTIONS!!

  131. 04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! No questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Lisa M
      04/23/2013 at 3:43 pm

      Love it!

  132. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Wow!!! He’s covered ALL his bases!! Whoo Hoo….No questions….you bet Dumbo….SIT DOWN!!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

      You’re back with us CiCiC in real time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀

  133. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    My timeline showed there was no time for her to return the gas can, unless she did it without ever leaving the store.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

      Oh what day is your timeline posted? Do you recall?

      • Schaeffer
        04/23/2013 at 2:31 pm

        Hang tight, I’ll get it for you over the lunch hour.

  134. Jill
    04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    That’s a first from wurmi

  135. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    The Def knows they are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo f**ked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 04/23/2013 at 3:15 pm

      U go girl…!!

  136. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Gotta love Wild…

    WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial
    If I was a juror I would ask “why do your steaks suck?” #JodiArias Counsel approaches the bench to review the question.

  137. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Did ya notice the Worm could barely get out of his chair that time……….!

  138. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:13 pm

    McJuan!! I’m luvin’ it!!!!!!!!

  139. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 2:13 pm

    GO JM!!! You’re the MAN!!

  140. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:13 pm

    moving along… yea

  141. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Wurmi made the first prudent decision of the trial by saying “No questions, Your Honor.”

  142. Jill
    04/23/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Juan is so awesome. Two witnesses done in about an hour!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:16 pm

      Yep! And this will play well to the Jury!

      • Jill
        04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

        Good. I hope so.

  143. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:13 pm

    Tesoro… Maybe?

  144. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

    ooooh baby!!!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 2:15 pm

      that’s what he said last night 🙂

      • Lisa M
        04/23/2013 at 3:44 pm

        Lol MMD!

  145. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Wow no questions from duh defense, I mean what could they say?

  146. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

    I would NOT mess with her!!

  147. 04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Look at the guns on her!! Hodi’s not gonna like her!!!

  148. 04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

    wow, look at those arms!

    • Lisa M
      04/23/2013 at 3:44 pm

      I know huh?

  149. 04/23/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Hodi Jodi pants on fire
    Gas can not refunded
    You’re a Liar!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:17 pm

      LOL! You’re a poet!

  150. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:15 pm

    damn I cant concentrate on her testimony 🙂

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

      Gee, Jay….I don’t understand why not? Sheeshh, Men! Ha!

      • Diana Bratt
        04/23/2013 at 4:22 pm

        See! That’s what makes me nervous about this verdict. The men might be taking sips of Jodi’s kool-aid. I worry about this so much.

  151. 04/23/2013 at 2:16 pm

    Im not sure I liked that question from the jury

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:17 pm

      Just covering all bases. No worries!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 2:20 pm

      No problem…..We figured it was coming because we asked the same question to ourselves! Some of us worked in retail for years and when all the computer stuff came in YOU HAD to have an item number to reference the refund back to. Even if it meant going and finding an item like it. Otherwise you would not balance. Witness did a good job answering. We understood it fully!

      • 04/23/2013 at 2:23 pm

        good good… I thought it might hve been over kill anad thought they were looking for a reason not to believe it wasn’t given back. But I defer to the all of you both comments

  152. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:16 pm

    jodi is shrinking in her seat!

  153. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:16 pm

    Perry Mason follows through from his GOT YA moment of cross.. Great.

  154. 04/23/2013 at 2:17 pm

    JA is writing to JW….”I don’t like her mommy….make the pretty lady go bye, bye!”

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

      You are too funny!

  155. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:17 pm

    this witness has biceps! A wrestle match with wobo?

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

      That’d be a sucker bet!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:19 pm

      oh hell yeah wobo would be mince meat her arms are ripped

  156. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

    I think JA and Wilnot look like they are playing tic-tac-toe with each other.

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 2:19 pm

      Yes, with the sliding the notebook back and forth, it sure seems that way. Lol

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:20 pm

      Hangman

      • Jill
        04/23/2013 at 2:25 pm

        Good one!!!!

  157. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

    JA to Duh-fence attorneys: “Uh…..you guys handle this I’m going to color! It’s up to you to get me otta this!!”

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:20 pm

      LOL!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:24 pm

      lol!!!

  158. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

    How come my arms aren’t sculpted like that? I absolutely pound on this laptop when I’m frustrated!!!!! #not fair

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

      bet your fingers are buff!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:19 pm

      Ha!

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 2:21 pm

      I guess if we stopped sitting here day in and day out watching this trial, we could go pump some iron and get sculpted arms….

  159. kristin
    04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Is WOBO’s defense team going to argue that she is mistaken as to which Walmart she returned it to? Had her dumbass not testified as to what a meticulous memory she had on top of an Einstein IQ, that might have been a believable argument. But the jury knows what a meticulously selective memory she really has. I wanna dunk her tissues is ammonia and bleach!

  160. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Wanna bet Nurma cross examines this witness…

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:21 pm

      And is going to figure out how to bring up ‘the anal sex’!!

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 2:23 pm

        he better not with those arms…

      • 04/23/2013 at 2:23 pm

        LOL!!!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 2:24 pm

      He’s probably got a woody on right now….of course he wants to get up there and question her just so he can get closer! Ohhhh yuk….she can probably beat him silly with those beautiful arms!

  161. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 2:20 pm

    Double D’s and rocking guns- WOBO hates this gal!

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 2:23 pm

      Me too….

      • Nienna
        04/23/2013 at 2:25 pm

        lol

  162. 04/23/2013 at 2:22 pm

    all i can concentrate on are those arms and how outta shape i am. give her just 2 minutes with WOBO, no take that back, just 62 seconds (could be off a bit).

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:23 pm

      LOL great!

  163. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:22 pm

    $3.85 a gallon… the good old days

  164. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:22 pm

    witness from Texas; I think she lifts weights for breakfast

  165. 04/23/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Syn…is her behavior in line with her PD? She seems to have a hard time paying attention when a perceived threat is in her vicinity….especially someone she may perceive as more attractive, or seems to have their stuff together.

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:26 pm

      OH totally.. she disassociates whenever she feels a loss of control. Goes into her alternate reality

      • 04/23/2013 at 2:32 pm

        I see. Thx. Just makes me think what the jury must think of her.

  166. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 2:23 pm

    Wilmot looks as green as her shirt

  167. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:24 pm

    back to reality… what’s this evidence proving?

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 2:27 pm

      That she could only purchase gas at the hour of the morning when she was there. The Duh-fence objected way back when JA was in cross with JM that it was not known if something else could have been bought. The inside of the store is closed at the hour of the morning when she was there so nothing else could have been bought.

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 2:28 pm

        Oh now they’re saying the store was open????

      • 04/23/2013 at 2:29 pm

        ya cos she said.. oh those three purchases weren’t all for gas or whhhaaaateva!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:28 pm

      that she filled up 3 cans in Salt lake; she swore she only had 2

  168. 04/23/2013 at 2:24 pm

    Syntara :
    yes oh I picked up on the Mesa back peddle big time!

    I read somewhere she gave him a DVD player(one was stolen from grandparents place)to him but could not find the remote to it initially. Speculation whether this is the same DVD player that was stolen.

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:28 pm

      yeah think robert and I are on that line of thought too Lisa 😉

      • Schaeffer
        04/23/2013 at 3:08 pm

        Syn — see my timeline for info about the DVD

      • 04/23/2013 at 3:10 pm

        ok thanks Schaeff

      • 04/23/2013 at 3:26 pm

        Great minds do think alike! If in fact this was the stolen DVD player, hopefully it will be introduced as it is tied to the gun. This would be awesome!

  169. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 2:24 pm

    Wurmi will ask to approach, then hand her his phone number.

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:26 pm

      $10 bucks says he’s sucking in his gut right now….but we just can’t see it!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:26 pm

      not a prayer Bluto

  170. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:26 pm

    Funny how JA isn’t looking at her like she was at Jacob!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:27 pm

      Nienna….I know right??? Great minds think alike!!

      • Nienna
        04/23/2013 at 2:29 pm

        🙂

  171. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:27 pm

    ha ha Nurmi-letch

  172. 04/23/2013 at 2:27 pm

    eeeeeaaaaannnndddddd……

  173. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 2:28 pm

    Why would this be beyond the scope of cross?

  174. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 2:28 pm

    Wurmi is giving JA way way way to much credit by implying she had the forethought to use cash to pay for her gas — so she could not be tracked.

  175. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 2:28 pm

    Wow! Riveting cross by Wurmi!

  176. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:29 pm

    DEANNA!!!

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:30 pm

      Can’t wait to JA’s face now!

      • Nienna
        04/23/2013 at 2:31 pm

        She already looks freaked out!!!!!!

  177. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Deanna!!!!

  178. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 2:30 pm

    OOOhhhhh! Deanna Reed! This should be good!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

      Wait…who??? Getting excited….and I don’t know why???

  179. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Nurm the Wurm is sweatin’ like he’s the Hog for dinner!

  180. 04/23/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Oh lizard lips is drinking water to calm herself down internally

  181. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:31 pm

    Watch WOBOs face!!!! The famous Deanna!!!!!

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:31 pm

      She’s already panicking!

  182. 04/23/2013 at 2:31 pm

    oh now a sigh to calm herself more oooo oooooo behaviours very telling

  183. LindaLou
    04/23/2013 at 2:31 pm

    Hi All: I could be wrong but believe the engagement ring was Deanna’s.

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

      You’re right. TA just never gave it to her.

  184. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:32 pm

    Anyone know who the new blonde is next to mom?

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

      I was wondering the same thing

  185. Moon
    04/23/2013 at 2:32 pm

    ahhh Deanna! that’s TA’s gf of 7 yrs prior to the ho, right??

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

      Yes. On and off for 7 years.

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:35 pm

      OOOhhhhh!!! Bloody Exciting!!!!

  186. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

    What’s that bump thingy of hair on top her her head???

  187. 04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

    staring ahead fixating … (form of meditation) she’s churning big time at the moment

  188. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Oh she wants to crawl in her hole and die! Look at her face (if you can stand to)

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:37 pm

      HJM….don’t make me look!! Must….avert….eyes…..aaagghhh!!!! It burns us!!!

  189. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

    moving so fast womi has to call for a sidebar; he cant let this thing close down too soon; he’s got bills to pay!

  190. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

    Oh….that young lady took us back to our days of youth and firm bodies!! Yea right….we NEVER looked like that!! Geeezzzzz…..we are soooo jealous!!

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 2:34 pm

      and for the men like pressing your face against the bakery store window knowing you’re never gonna get inside…:)

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 2:37 pm

        Ha ha ha ha!! Good one!!!

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 2:35 pm

      My mother always told me muscle-bound women were “unsightly” — a direct quote.

  191. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

    devastation on JA’s face

  192. 04/23/2013 at 2:33 pm

    another sigh…

  193. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 2:34 pm

    Ok…Deanna….bet the Duh-fense is going to dig her heels in on this one! Watch that freak JA sit there and stare her down!!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 2:35 pm

      We’re hoping JA gets the runs while she sits there contemplating!!

  194. LindaLou
    04/23/2013 at 2:34 pm

    Does JA look a lighter shade of pale?

  195. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:34 pm

    the self proclaimed artist and photographer! hahaha Might as well say she’s an engineer!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:35 pm

      she’s sure engineering a bad duh-fense

  196. 04/23/2013 at 2:35 pm

    wth how long are they up there for.. judge ffs

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

      It is going to be lunchtime soon!!!

  197. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 2:35 pm

    Defense: Judge may we call a short recess, out client just s&*t her pants.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

      LOL!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:38 pm

      haha!!!

  198. Moon
    04/23/2013 at 2:35 pm

    did not like the juror ? for the Walmart Employee. Still giving the HO the benefit of the doubt about the return. Can only hope this juror ends up as an alternate!

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/23/2013 at 2:42 pm

      Neither did I.
      No cross from the defense, but one of the people in the box took it upon him or herself to ask a question that was intended to cast doubt on the obvious point that the prosecution made.
      Now, this person may not end up on the actual deliberating jury, but again, it is fair for the state to have a concern.

      • truejustice
        04/23/2013 at 4:19 pm

        I thought so as well. Fingers crossed that this person is either not on final or just is confirming to themselves she is guilty so they feel better about the DP!

  199. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

    its starting to close in on ya wobo! Can you feel it? Can you feel the heat? Because we know (all together) The Heat is Juan!

  200. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

    UM!!! Where’d my screen go!!!

  201. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

    Ok we’re gonna finally get to see the infamous Deanna!!!!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:37 pm

      mmd did you hve to say that!!! my screen went black!

  202. 04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

    wtf my thingo just went black

  203. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

    What’s Deena going to talk about? That Travis was never abusive?

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:37 pm

      guessing so yes

  204. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

    While we are at a sidebar can someone please tell me how to refresh. I am on a pc with windows 7. I tried all the “F” buttons but doesn’t work. Every time I want to see new comments I need to go back to the calls for justice page and then go in again and scroll down to the last comment and scroll up to see what I missed. I am one of the elders and I know a little about computers but I guess not enough. Thanks.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:38 pm

      there is alittle arrow going counter clockwise at top left corner. Hit that and it will refresh.

      • PAM
        04/23/2013 at 2:41 pm

        thanks but I don’t see it…at top left corner is the esc key, then this `…under that is the tab and to the right of escape is the f1…looking but don'[t see it.

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 2:40 pm

      How about fn (key) and F5. Or up on the search bar where the name of the site is there’s a backward circle arrow that is refresh as well. We learned that yesterday!!

      • PAM
        04/23/2013 at 2:43 pm

        f5 makes the screen brighter what is the fn key? Thank you.

      • PAM
        04/23/2013 at 2:47 pm

        I found the fn key….doesn’t work for me but thank you.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 3:34 pm

      not on the keyboard; on the screen itself

  205. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:36 pm

    my feed went black
    Anyone having same problem?

  206. JesusFreak
    04/23/2013 at 2:37 pm

    my screen is gone, too.

  207. JesusFreak
    04/23/2013 at 2:37 pm

    gone, back, gone.

  208. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Anyone still live, if so, link please

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 2:38 pm

      haven’t found one yet

  209. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 2:38 pm

    I’ve lost my feed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • LindaLou
      04/23/2013 at 2:39 pm

      Me too….

  210. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 2:38 pm

    Hey…mine too! Not now…noooooo.

  211. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:38 pm

    LUNCHTIME!

  212. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 2:38 pm

    Someone…anyone…link please.

  213. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:39 pm

    shit mine too

  214. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:40 pm

    and she’s on the stand…

  215. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:40 pm

    I bet Deanna requested no camera …..

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:41 pm

      but no sound I dont have sound either does anyone?

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 2:41 pm

      UG – shucks

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 2:42 pm

      can she do that?

  216. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Mine BLACK on KPHO!

  217. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 2:41 pm

    wtf… any audio anywhere?

  218. 04/23/2013 at 2:42 pm

    crap….lost my feed….so pissed!!!

  219. Nienna
    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:42 pm

      Or wild or anywhere.

  220. 04/23/2013 at 2:42 pm

    phew

  221. Robert in Rotterdam
  222. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:42 pm

    Anyone getting this?

  223. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 2:43 pm

    Refresh everyone – several feeds back now

  224. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 2:43 pm

    Damn I may have to watch it on HLN 😦 since they are providing the court feed

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:45 pm

      No! Just refresh!

  225. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:43 pm

    Oh thank heaven!

  226. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:43 pm

    wobo crayoning again; cant look at her hahahaha

  227. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 2:43 pm

    Live Stream working now. phewish 🙂

  228. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 2:44 pm

    JA back to serious work there – massive eraser movement! Urg – I wanna snap her arm off!!

  229. Jill
    04/23/2013 at 2:45 pm

    They really should pause court when our live feed goes down…

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 2:45 pm

      Right !

  230. 04/23/2013 at 2:45 pm

    bit different to her crying and staring at the male witness to get his sympathy.. omg she is SOOO transparent!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 2:45 pm

      i know, so obvious

  231. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:45 pm

    not exactly what I pictured as his GF

    • Marilyn N
      04/23/2013 at 2:47 pm

      She was much thinner back then from the picture I saw.

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 2:47 pm

      She looks a little different now than then. There are some pictures of her in his memorial video.

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:47 pm

      no same here Robert

  232. 04/23/2013 at 2:45 pm

    She devils witchey witchcraft magic at work there!!!

  233. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:47 pm

    unlike wobo this gal had an apartment and a job

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:48 pm

      oh yes she does not have an identity problem that’s for sure

  234. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 2:48 pm

    Did you see JA look for a ring?

    • kristin
      04/23/2013 at 6:10 pm

      Has that ring wobo stole been recovered? How did Travis realize wobo stole it? Was there a confrontation? I know she took it lol, I’m just curious to know more because its just another insane detail!

  235. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 2:50 pm

    JA is looking happy and relaxed! What’s with that? She’s got something up her evil sleeve- and has written a script for JW!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:51 pm

      no look she’s talking to herself.. she is cutting herself off from this

  236. 04/23/2013 at 2:50 pm

    wobo must be drawing or something what is with the constant erasing… but she looks more like she is writing.. she’s freaky wierdo

  237. 04/23/2013 at 2:51 pm

    Her behavior is SO bizarre to me….I can’t reconcile it, because I have NEVER seen anything like it in my life!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:52 pm

      she’s a mutant

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 2:56 pm

      You are lucky!

  238. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:52 pm

    well she wanted to marry; now she wanted to teach. Which one, Miss? Both? One or the other?

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:53 pm

      both.. probably wanted to marry him

  239. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 2:54 pm

    she – unlike wobo – could actually afford to buy him a computer!

    • 04/23/2013 at 2:57 pm

      and she was secure enough not be needy

  240. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 2:55 pm

    Oh…. did you see her reaction about Deanna having Nepolian?

  241. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 2:56 pm

    ‘m callin luch !

  242. 04/23/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Jodi is a liar jodi is a liar!!!

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 2:58 pm

      AMEN!

  243. WhereIsSHE
    04/23/2013 at 2:58 pm

    I’m so glad that Deana has Napolean. (That really got to me=(“` I am all tears here now.)

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 3:01 pm

      That’s a huge compliment to Deanna to have his dog….
      How hard that must be for her to cuddle that dog knowing it was travis’ baby…
      On the other hand, it is a piece of travis no one else has…

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/23/2013 at 3:04 pm

        100% on everything you said.

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 3:27 pm

      Passing you a tissue…. (hugs). When I 1st heard of this case, I became obsessed trying to find info on what happened to Napoleon- and sighed H U G E relief when I learned he was in the care of someone who loved him (and Travis).

  244. 04/23/2013 at 2:58 pm

    this is basically proving everything Jodistein said on the stand is lies

  245. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 2:59 pm

    Deanna is an excellent witness. She is very genuine in her manner and statements, she obviously cared for Travis a great deal. WOBO absolutely HATES her!!

    Is Deanna the one Travis bought the engagement ring for? Has that ring ever surfaced? I would be willing to bet WOBO wore it when she first stole it, but she probably pawned it later.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/23/2013 at 3:08 pm

      TOTALLY excellent. I mean.. she basically DESTROYED LaViolette’s entire umpteen days of b.s. in just a few minutes. (Better even than Dr. D, IMO.)
      All of ALV’s opinions about WHO TRAVIS WAS? Rendered completely inaccurate and totally unbelievable, and hence MEANINGLESS.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 3:37 pm

        yes yes yes. “batterers” are not the guy depicted by Deanna

  246. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 3:00 pm

    I refreshed WildaboutTrial and got bounced. Just got back on now. Thank God I had a fallback feed going!!!!

  247. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 3:01 pm

    AZCentral is replaying the bit we missed

  248. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 3:01 pm

    They are replaying Deanna’s testimony now

  249. 04/23/2013 at 3:01 pm

    oohhh…azcentral is replaying her testimony!

  250. 04/23/2013 at 3:02 pm

    ya got it toooo

  251. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 3:03 pm

    I bet that’s where JA came up with the Costa Rica story and the exchange b/f

    • 04/23/2013 at 3:08 pm

      ahahahaha omg could be …..but surely her family would know she never went if that was the case would she lie that blatantly?

      • 04/23/2013 at 3:09 pm

        how these ppl tend to lie is when it’s not easily provable

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 3:15 pm

        That’s what she’s been doing all along…..lying!

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 3:16 pm

        JM has caught her on the most important lies….those that count!

      • 04/23/2013 at 3:19 pm

        yeah but CC there is a kind of lying she does.. it’s all underhanded.. where you can’t actually Prove it.. that’s how really good manipulators work.. they lie blantantly where common sense tells you it’s lying.. but not so overtly that I went here.. when everyone knew she didn’t.. can’t explain it at the moment but there’s a patten to her lying and it’s well documented. It’s a strategy pathological liars use and saying she went to costa rica when she didn’t breaks that pattern

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 3:23 pm

        Of course she’s lie and wasn’t his name the same as TA’s middle name plus of course the last name Arias?????

      • 04/23/2013 at 3:27 pm

        I dunno.. I think she went.. whether victor arias existed is a different matter.. but I think she went I just can’t see her lying that blatantly unless she got her family on board first and I can’t see that these people don’t work like that.

        Unless she said she went long before the court case and somehow couldn’t back out of saying it in court that’s the only way I see she would do that.

    • Jane
      04/23/2013 at 3:40 pm

      you may be onto something. She went there to study Spanish (yeah, right). His name was Victor (Travis’s) middle name…last name Arias.. How better to remember that lie!

    • Anonymous
      04/23/2013 at 4:30 pm

      Do they have exchange programs for High School Drop-outs?

  252. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 3:04 pm

    Lilou Legault ‏@LilouLegault 5m
    RT @BethKaras: There are questions in the jury basket for Deanna Reid. #JodiArias

  253. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 3:04 pm

    Hey HJ – You still here???

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 3:13 pm

      Yes …. just absorbing the replay …..

      • Tracey A
        04/23/2013 at 3:23 pm

        Same here. RE: your question on yesterdays thread, on Amazon, I looked up the 1000 Places to See Before You Die, and found that Pacific Coast Highway is listed. It gave me the option to peek inside and it gives a perfect description. It’s on page 724 and it mentions Ventana Inn & Spa as a place to stay.

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 3:42 pm

        Ah yes … just another act in her ritual farewell to Travis. That girl is creepy!

  254. Jane
    04/23/2013 at 3:07 pm

    Does anyone have a theory why the gas cans were filled going from Utah to California?

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 3:24 pm

      Can’t say for sure why……other than she’s so dumb she didn’t realize it was going to show she still had the cans with her. It came back to bite her in the ass because when she was on the stand she looked straight at the jury and said, “I only had 2 gas cans with me.”

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 3:41 pm

      Einstein really screwed up. I mean by Salt Lake she was out of AZ and heading where she said she was going.. Why she filled gas cans at that moment eludes me, but then again, I’m no Einstein.

    • Observer
      04/23/2013 at 4:37 pm

      Gas is cheaper in Utah than California. She filled them up so if cops questioned her receipts she could say she brought the gas cans because gas is cheaper in Utah and Nevada than California. However, she filled the gas cans up in California and not again until she got to Utah, which meansd she filled the car with gas from the cans while she was in her amnesia/fog.

  255. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 3:11 pm

    Schaeffer :
    Deanna is an excellent witness. She is very genuine in her manner and statements, she obviously cared for Travis a great deal. WOBO absolutely HATES her!!
    Is Deanna the one Travis bought the engagement ring for? Has that ring ever surfaced? I would be willing to bet WOBO wore it when she first stole it, but she probably pawned it later.

    Don’t forget that JA testified that TA told her to stay away from Deanna because “she’s crazy”….of course that’s JA’s testimony we took with a grain of salt. Do you think if TA thought that he would have gone to the extent of actually writing in his will that Deanna would take his beloved dog?! How much you want to bet Nurm the Wurm mentions this comment…..just to be mean!

    It truly sounds like the love Deanna and TA shared was true but at the time TA was not ready for marriage. Just gets sadder and sadder!

    She’s coming across as very credible to us!

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 3:22 pm

      Oh I forgot that …. Yeah…. she really seems crazy!

    • 04/23/2013 at 3:23 pm

      more pattern to her lyings.. manipulators disparage others to gain legitimacy for themselves. Good pick up ladies. you sure see the patterns.

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/23/2013 at 3:27 pm

        Our brains are really keyed up today…..kinda scares us….we’re really tuned in today though…..smiles on our faces!!

      • 04/23/2013 at 3:29 pm

        good ladies you make heaps comments so later in my day I can read them all and know exactly what happened!! 😀

  256. 04/23/2013 at 3:12 pm

    Will the defense start asking about anal sex? Watching on HLN

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 3:15 pm

      My guess ….. no. I think they will try ….. but I suspect she will say they were not intimate. That is why JM did not ask himself. Maybe makes her look less “close” to TA? Just thinkin’ and sayin’

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 3:21 pm

      We think the jury will not look kindly on the Duh-fence if he does this. This sounds like a very respectful young woman and to get up there and start asking her such disrespectful questions would be their downfall here….or we should say further downfall! But you never know ….they are getting desperate and don’t think beyond the minute!!

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 3:24 pm

        Exactly! That is why JM left it up to Nurmi (or Wilnot) to ask! I wonder if that is the juror question …

  257. 04/23/2013 at 3:16 pm

    @ Jane…she’s not that smart…

  258. 04/23/2013 at 3:17 pm

    I wish I was built like the Tesoro gal. Minus the silicone…

  259. 04/23/2013 at 3:21 pm

    Jodi’s not drawing; she’s stirring her brew: “Eye of Newt, Wart of Toad…

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 3:44 pm

      nice touch for Shakespeare’s b’day (Macbeth)

    • 04/23/2013 at 3:48 pm

      OMG….perfecto!!!

  260. Nienna
    04/23/2013 at 3:21 pm

    http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS0G33ZR0B8AHESJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dtravis%2Balexander%2Band%2Bdeanna%2Breed%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D1&w=724&h=1024&imgurl=i206.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb200%2Fwoofrigginhoo%2Fdeanna.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmydeathspace.com%2Fvb%2Fshowthread.php%3F10763-Jodi-Ann-Arias-shot-and-stabbed-her-ex-boyfriend-Travis-Alexander-to-death%2Fpage1062&size=140.3KB&name=…+Ann+Arias+shot+%3Cb%3Eand+%3C%2Fb%3Estabbed+her+ex-boyfriend+%3Cb%3ETravis+Alexander+%3C%2Fb%3Eto+death&p=travis+alexander+and+deanna+reed&oid=d811babda4fb53b48fa27d6ee4381824&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=…%2BAnn%2BArias%2Bshot%2B%253Cb%253Eand%2B%253C%252Fb%253Estabbed%2Bher%2Bex-boyfriend%2B%253Cb%253ETravis%2BAlexander%2B%253C%252Fb%253Eto%2Bdeath&b=0&ni=21&no=1&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=143v336lj&sigb=13pfdlqkb&sigi=11q39155h&.crumb=ki8lTjYmwJR&fr=yfp-t-900

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 3:23 pm

      Fail!!! Trying to post a picture of TA and Deanna.

      • Nienna
        04/23/2013 at 3:28 pm

        Ok… Among others… pic @ 5:06. You can see that he loved her!

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 3:29 pm

        If you go to Yahoo Images and search Travis Alexander Deanna Reid you can get to the photo. She is very cute!

  261. 04/23/2013 at 3:28 pm

    ok break is too long for me I gotta go get zzzzz falling asleep here

    *waves* byee ya’ll

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 3:32 pm

      Night ….. will look for you in our wee morning hours. I would like to “pick your brain” a bit …. if you have time and don’t mind.

  262. 04/23/2013 at 3:28 pm

    She was ready for marriage…he wasn’t, at that, Jodi Looked up.

  263. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 3:31 pm

    Ok just remembered that Travis’ middle name was Victor and the “b/f” that JA met in Costa Rica was named Victor Arias. I have NEVER thought he existed but now that I know that Deanna did her mission in Costa Rica it all totally makes sense 💡 Every lie she tells there is some connection to the truth, may be slim, but if ya dig far enough ya find it!

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 3:34 pm

      Woah! Never put that together! Well done!!!

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 3:39 pm

      That is what makes her so frickin’ scary! All she needs is just a thread and she can weave a tapestry so detailed that you have no choice but to believe her …. until you get really suspicious and pull the thread and it all starts to unravel. And if you are tasked with the unravelling, watch out!! And I say this from sad personal experience 😦

  264. 04/23/2013 at 3:31 pm

    Jodi mustv’e gotten word that nobody buys her tears. So predictable when she went to the tissues, and cradled it to her face, occasionaly dabbing under her chin, and the wrong side of her eyes, where she thinks tears would fall.

  265. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 3:41 pm

    Now, I am steeling myself, in preparation to listen to Wurmi try and twist Deanna up. JA was BUSY jotting notes all during Jaun’s Q’s to Deanna- Wurmi will now regurgitate all of JA’s lies as posed questions.

  266. 04/23/2013 at 3:43 pm

    doesn’t matter but didn’t Wal-Mart lady say SKU was spelled s-k-e-w? is that really correct?

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 3:47 pm

      I thoight JM was going to spell it too and then quit … maybe he caught her little error. And wouldn’t we like to SKEWER someone!

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 3:47 pm

      I thought that too! Isn’t it SKU?!!

      • Schaeffer
        04/23/2013 at 4:15 pm

        It is SKU — stock keeping unit.

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 3:56 pm

      Hello “old” girl (does 58 reflect your age? Birth year?) Just curious:) SKU stands for Stock Keeping Unit- but sometimes spelled out as Skew in corporate legal writings for some companies.

      • 04/23/2013 at 4:04 pm

        FOL- 58 is birth year. Tx for enlightening me.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 4:13 pm

        thanks; the whole sku/ skew thing I didnt follow

  267. 04/23/2013 at 3:48 pm

    Wall Mart Lady said S K E W

  268. Lisa M
    04/23/2013 at 3:52 pm

    Watching HLN again of course so I’m probably being everyone but I just heard the “what is that whitish, blonde thing on his lap?” comment. Hysterical! I love Juan and I hate this Dwayne Cates defense attorney on HLN. OH PLEASE MAKE HIM STOP!!!

    • Lisa M
      04/23/2013 at 3:53 pm

      I meant behind everyone!

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 3:59 pm

      Dwayne Cates should come with a warning label, “may cause nausea and vomiting”.

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/23/2013 at 4:26 pm

        I think he has a DEGREE–no, scratch that; make it a LICENSE in being a certified irritant to stomach linings and rational brain cells.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 4:26 pm

      Just put him on mute

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 4:33 pm

      As mentioned before, HLN is like pro wrestling — they need a bad guy so the supposed good guys live Vinnie have someone to smack around.

      You don’t want to watch HLN live. Pay the extra$6 or $8 a month for DVR service with your cable provider — and record it. Then you can fast forward past the obnoxious guests and obnoxious commercials and obnoxious hosts and just watch the streaming trial video.

  269. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 4:12 pm

    HJ — my timeline is on Day 42, part 2. Find the calendar on this blog and select 5 April. The post will have a date of 6 April and be #359. Let me know if you have questions, as I’ve updated some things and others have contributed as well.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 4:28 pm

      Many many thanks …. shall dash off now and check. BTW, did you see MMD’s post about the new picture JA is selling? It is downstairs just a few steps.

  270. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 4:14 pm

    JA is at it again. Apparently her latest picture is of Tanisha Sorensen, TA’s sister and people are outraged with good reason. Here is the link:

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 4:24 pm

      OMG … that is an outrage! And this time she may have crossed the line! There is no doubt she has not drawn an “imaginary” person …. I don’t think she can use the likeness of TA’s sister without compensating her and/or without her permission. I hope some lawyer in AZ will step in here and file an injunction to prevent the sale and force a hearing! This just really makes my blood boil!!!

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 4:33 pm

      Way to close to be some “coincidence”

    • Schaeffer
      04/23/2013 at 4:41 pm

      Someone in Mesa needs to notify the prosecutor’s office about this. I don’t know if it is against the law, but it IS against all that is human and decent. What a fucking bitch!

      • kristin
        04/23/2013 at 6:22 pm

        I’m fixing to riot on behave of Travis’s family. Seeing that picture is pure torture for the family. I swear that whatever juror holds back from a 1st degree guilty should have to be hand cuffed to wobo for the rest of their life.

  271. 04/23/2013 at 4:15 pm

    Malarkey!

  272. Lisa M
    04/23/2013 at 4:17 pm

    Nienna, thank u for posting Travis’ memorial video. It was truly moving and inspiring!

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 4:19 pm

      No Problem!!!

  273. 04/23/2013 at 4:18 pm

    I don’t care to hear one F-ing word from Kato Kaelin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  274. 04/23/2013 at 4:21 pm

    Announcement: Oldgirl58 is now Brightgirl58. Please keep in mind it does NOT refer to any smarts I have – that is reserved for you. You all are da bomb here (yeah I get that from the kids). No more pejorative reference! Again greetings from the land of one of 1000 places to see. Beautiful large flakes are a fallin’ now. Justice for Travis is coming soon!

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 4:26 pm

      Secretly I am glad you chose BrightGirl … Octi was too close to Octo (as in Octomom) and 58 is too close to 59, if you get my drift! Nice new name!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 4:36 pm

      Yay!!!!!! and thank you 😀

  275. John
    04/23/2013 at 4:25 pm

    Good set of court minutes well done.

  276. 04/23/2013 at 4:27 pm

    Anyone know if Juan asked Deeann if they’d had sex? It’s immaterial. And if he didn’t I’m sure he left that cesspool to the defense on purpose. Defense will use either answer to skew that fact that Jodi was his Dirty Little Secret.

    Welcome Brightgirl

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 4:37 pm

      no he didn’t.. but she said she spent a lot of time in TA’s bedroom.

      • Schaeffer
        04/23/2013 at 4:46 pm

        Jay, you came late to the discussion, but please do not read anything into this. Since Travis had several roommates, they each did the majority of their entertaining in their individual bedrooms. It seems the house was more like a dormitory; while they each had access to the entirety of the house, they did not interact with each other and did not live communally. It is unfair to besmirch the reputation of this woman by implying anything untoward happened without any facts to back it up.

      • 04/23/2013 at 4:52 pm

        Bubble? Do you think they brought out the fact she spent a lot of time in his bedroom to counter the defense’s contention that JA was always kept behind bedroom doors and out of sight? Like a dirty little secret?

      • 04/23/2013 at 5:01 pm

        That’s exactly what I thought – due to the roommates.

  277. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 4:29 pm

    WOBO bought 24 gallons of gas in SLC, but also bought gas in Winnemucca, NV, Sparks, NV, and Redding, CA. I can understand Redding, as it is common practice to return a rental car with a full tank. The others, though, I’m not sure about.

    Tracey, help me out here. Is Salt Lake to Redding via Wunnemucca and Sparks a mountainous trek? Why would she be buying all that gas? She had obviously used what was in the 3 cans earlier in the trip. She never returned the gas cans to Darryl, so that wasn’t the reason she filled the cans. What do you think?

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 4:41 pm

      Do u think she could have used third gas can to set fire to evidence? (Bed comforter, clothes, car mats, etc?)

  278. Nancy Pennington
    04/23/2013 at 4:30 pm

    In the incident where WOBO was peeking thru the patio window and saw Travis with the female that was hooking her bra (according to WOBO’s lying mouth) wasn’t that supposed to be Deanna??? I don’t remember whether that was WOBO’s testimony or I heard it somewhere else? Anybody know???????

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 4:34 pm

      nobody seems to know who it was as far as I know

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 4:39 pm

      JA eluded that it was Lisa.

    • Moon
      04/23/2013 at 4:40 pm

      i think they said it was Lisa….

  279. 04/23/2013 at 4:30 pm

    Tonight on HLN’s After Dark, bold question for the jury: “Did Jodi Lie?”

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 4:32 pm

      BARF!!

    • Jill
      04/23/2013 at 4:39 pm

      I can’t stand that show

  280. SeniorMoments
    04/23/2013 at 4:33 pm

    Not only am I coming to this site belatedly, but I have appointments all day today! I’m squeezing in 30 minutes here/there between the appointments! Reading here, I’m getting that JM put on 4 witnesses so far with no cross from KN/JW? Is that correct?

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 4:40 pm

      Short redirect with texas lady about gas purchases

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 4:40 pm

      pretty much – Wurmi asked one witness a couple of questions but that’s it.

    • Nienna
      04/23/2013 at 4:40 pm

      No cross on one. Little on the other two. Still not finished with 4th witness.

  281. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 4:33 pm

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    Both women questioned by people w/ badges. #JodiArias ct official says money returned & both women told that wasn’t cool

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    Some #JodiArias gallery drama. A regular sold her seat to another woman for $200. A big no-no according to court officials

    Wonder if they were JA’s Fans? 😆

  282. SeniorMoments
    04/23/2013 at 4:35 pm

    Also, has any decision been announced on the two motions? If not, do we know when to expect them?

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 4:37 pm

      Haven’t heard anything. I assumed that they would be argued this morning and court would be delayed. Guess not!

  283. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 4:39 pm

    So what’s the holdup now?????????????????????????????? as if I have to ask?????????????? 😦

  284. GN5020
    04/23/2013 at 4:39 pm

    I can’t watch that idiot Dwane Cates any longer. He comes up with the most ludicrous statements to defend that skank JA. An instant mute button as soon as I see his stupid face. However, I would pay to see he and Nancy Grace locked in a room for 24 hours.

    • 04/23/2013 at 7:30 pm

      That’s a visual I think would be worth watching! I think NG would win!!

  285. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 4:39 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Still waiting in court. Nurmi is fully reclinated, all attorneys present, waiting on the judge and jury.

  286. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 4:41 pm

    And away we go with cross 😦

  287. 04/23/2013 at 4:41 pm

    @ Nancy Pennington…I watched the beginning of Jodi’s testimony this weekend. She was very adamant that she did not knock or ring the doorbell on that occasion. LaViolette testified that Jodi went around back and peeked after her knocks at the door went unanswered. I thought the girl with the bra strap was a girl named Lisa, but I don’t thinlk they clarified…I think Jodi knocked at the door, or something, to interrupt the young lovers…and that is why the bra was being fastened. But would not admit it on the stand because that would be percieved as Stalking Behavior…Just as OJ claimed he never got the Dear John message from Paula Barbieri, because therein lay motive.

    • Nancy Pennington
      04/23/2013 at 7:35 pm

      Thanks BB ( I hope it is ok to shorten) I thought JA said she tried to get in through the garage and couldn’t and went around back and looked through the sliding door. I didn’t believe her story anyway and thought she probably saw a car in Travis’ driveway and was sneaking around to see who was in the house.

  288. Jill
    04/23/2013 at 4:43 pm

    Do u think we can wait a little for court to begin….jodi is VERY busy with whatever the hell she is doing so intently

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 4:49 pm

      😆

  289. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 4:45 pm

    oldgirl58 :
    FOL- 58 is birth year. Tx for enlightening me.

    I was born in ’62… I will call you “young girl” 🙂 We still have a ways to go!

    • 04/23/2013 at 5:10 pm

      Pls tell the bones that! Seriously, I love this stage of my life. Freedom!

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 7:07 pm

        My knees are no longer my friends! But Amen to freedom and loving this phase!

  290. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 4:46 pm

    looks like JA might have some gray hair starting in!!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 4:50 pm

      Hey Marilyn – when did you sneak in???????????? {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} darlin’ 🙂

      • Marilyn N
        04/23/2013 at 4:52 pm

        Hey MMD! I’ve been here at my post all day long!! Not writing too much.

  291. Moon
    04/23/2013 at 4:51 pm

    omg can someone please rip those fn glasses off her head/face and smash them to bits! i swear, fuglier by the day!

    • kristin
      04/23/2013 at 6:28 pm

      Yes I will do it but only if I can smash them to bits while they are still on her fugly face!

  292. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 4:52 pm

    I see that Gidget used her spray hair in a can today 😆

  293. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 4:52 pm

    Does ja actually needs her glasses. I see her looking over and under them looking both near and far ?

  294. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 4:53 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Some slow, supple, eeeannndddsss are heard, almost putting some spectators into a trance like state. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi wants to talk about Deanna’s relationship with Travis. He starts off with when they met back in 1998, she was 20. #JodiArias

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Deanna is on the stand again. Nurmi has dereclinated and is ready to chicken wing his way into more questions

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 4:57 pm

      Hey there Girl! How ya be? 🙂

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 5:05 pm

        I be good – you?????? 🙂

      • Tracey A
        04/23/2013 at 5:10 pm

        I’m a good. Four legged kids curled up under my feet….as usual 😀

  295. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 4:55 pm

    OMG – OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK – Go back to your recliner!!!!

  296. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 4:58 pm

    CBS5 ..elizabetherwin The pace of today’s testimony has officially slowed down. #JodiArias

    Isn’t that the truth!

  297. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 4:59 pm

    That entire defense team including Jodi, should go live in a tent together on a small,
    remote island!!

  298. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:00 pm

    what is this idiot Nurmi trying to do?

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 5:04 pm

      It is the slow friendly build to the ugly question ….. because you know he has to do it!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 5:12 pm

      Maybe trying to make her look like she may have been a woman scorned at one time to justify JA’s actions as a woman scorned. He keeps pushing and trying to put words in her mouth but she’s not going for it.

  299. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:02 pm

    Hey all. Wurmi is going to put me to sleep. Could he possibly talk any slower??

  300. 04/23/2013 at 5:02 pm

    Here comes squirmey with the sex…

    • Marilyn N
      04/23/2013 at 5:05 pm

      She should say it’s none of your GD business, you Worm!!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 5:21 pm

        exactly my view

  301. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:03 pm

    The two girls are having a gay old time over there!!

  302. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:03 pm

    JA has flipped her hair back about 50 times today.

    • Marilyn N
      04/23/2013 at 5:04 pm

      Her very “greasy” hair, that is!

  303. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:04 pm

    JA is just loving this – makes me want to hurl 😦 and Wurmi is just as bad!!!

  304. 04/23/2013 at 5:04 pm

    @ Tracey A, hey, he gets paid by the hour lets not forget.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:06 pm

      🙄

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 5:06 pm

      LOL Bubble! As soon as hit the post button I had a head slapping moment with that exact thought.

  305. Jane
    04/23/2013 at 5:05 pm

    I swear I can’t take this subtle morphing behavior which is not that subtle. Starts with hair style of JW.. last week, she adjusted her hair (some bangs, behind the ear, part on same side as DeMarte). Today, part on same side as Deanna, bangs sweetly to the side as so they are not so having in. her face. Exactly what borderline personality describes.

  306. Schaeffer
    04/23/2013 at 5:06 pm

    Note to Wurmi: Not everyone MURDERS their ex when they break up!!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:08 pm

      All mine are still alive 🙂 Bet your’s are as well!!!

  307. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Seriously Wurmi – Get to the Point!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:09 pm

      The point is gonna be that she is just a jealous old girlfriend who couldn’t let go and wanted to marry TA and is the loon (no offense to the bird) like JA said!!

  308. Douglme
    04/23/2013 at 5:08 pm

    Good Lord, does Nurmi have a point here or is he just wasting time?

  309. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 5:09 pm

    Wurmi’s strategy is to bore everyone into a deep coma.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 5:12 pm

      he’s succeeding

      • PAM
        04/23/2013 at 5:13 pm

        LOL.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:12 pm

      Exactly Pam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  310. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:10 pm

    what does this have to do with travis having his throat cut and stabbed and shot in the head?

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:11 pm

      not a damn thing!!!!

  311. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:10 pm

    How many times is he going to ask about whether she and TA talked marriage??????????????

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 5:12 pm

      Until he makes her seem as obsessed with it as his client.

  312. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:11 pm

    Hopefully the jury is as annoyed by this Worm as we are!!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:12 pm

      your lips to God’s ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  313. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:11 pm

    Do Dianna!!!! She’s not giving him a thing!!!!

  314. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:13 pm

    THis is SOOOOOOO stupid. Can’t wait to see where he is going with this.
    His “OK’s” are just driving me C R A Z Y !!!!

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 5:15 pm

      eeeeeeaaaaannnnnddddddddd…ditto that! This questioning makes absolutely no sense! Ridiculous~

  315. 04/23/2013 at 5:13 pm

    Why do I feel these questions are DIRECTLY from wobo? Nurmi is her mouthpiece. She’s flexing her muscles (those she wished she had from DD guns) to get in this nice young lady’s head and to find out facts. She’s so low.

  316. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:13 pm

    I I’m waiting for her to answer a question from him with “that’s right, fatso.”

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:18 pm

      wouldn’t that be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  317. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 5:14 pm

    Maybe he is trying to tie something to the pedophile charge?

  318. 04/23/2013 at 5:14 pm

    I wonder if evertime jODI PERKS UP it’s becauseone of her questions arE being asked.

  319. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:15 pm

    Appears JA is telling Willnot the “real” facts!

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 5:17 pm

      OMG! You’re too fast for me. Ditto again

  320. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Geeeeeezzzzzz…..somebody light a fire under this buffoon…..oh…here it comes!!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 5:17 pm

      We knew it was coming to this!! He’s going to ask her about anal sex!! Just tell him NO….TA never pushed you to that!!

  321. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:16 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Please don’t hit fast forward on the live stream, it is playing at normal speed trust me. Eeeeeeaaaaannnnnnnddddd

    ROFL plus Wurmi has the chicken wing going in full force.

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 5:19 pm

      I knew you would bring this over. When I saw that I just cracked up.

  322. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:17 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Time stands still between the questions. It’s quite remarkable

    Ain’t it the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  323. PAM
    04/23/2013 at 5:17 pm

    IMHO good witness. Shame on Wurmi….what a jerk….this woman is telling the truth. Oh..he is so compassionate now….don’t want to judge…duh.

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 5:23 pm

      Now this is a respectable and credible witness. She tells the truth….they were human and full of emotions. Nurm the Wurm is having trouble questioning her because he KNOWS if he missteps it’s going to go bad for him!!

  324. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 5:18 pm

    Oh .. poor ja. See other people new he wasn’t a virgin.

    btw – I really like that Deanna is calm cool and collected about the issue of sex

  325. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:20 pm

    this chuch questing sex stuff is bs. substitute ‘Catholic’ for :Morman” and it sounds like nurmi is back in the 1940s. Who cares if they were screwing each other.

  326. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:20 pm

    Oh no!!! I feel the imminent question coming up.

  327. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:20 pm

    THERE IT IS!!!!!

  328. 04/23/2013 at 5:21 pm

    Earlier I posted the ridiculousness of HLN’s After Dark’s “bold accusations” I was being facetious…but here’s the real bold accusation on tonights HLN’s Ater Dark:Jodi ditched the knife…God Damn You O.J.! (shaking fist at the ceiling)

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:23 pm

      hope they have a bag of golf clubs on set!!!!

  329. Moon
    04/23/2013 at 5:22 pm

    Leave it to that slimy worm to go to the sex! what a perv

  330. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:22 pm

    Guess JA wasn’t as special as she thought she was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it, love it, love it!!!!

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 5:23 pm

      me too!

  331. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:22 pm

    he was dying to say anal

  332. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 5:23 pm

    I really feel bad for her. I would just die – having to discuss my sex life in front of the whole world.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:23 pm

      so would I!!!!

      • Marilyn N
        04/23/2013 at 5:25 pm

        I’m certain JM warned her so she was prepared.

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 5:26 pm

        I take that back. No I don’t think I would have a problem with it in this day and age. I’m not a Mormon and I’m an adult. People have sex. It’s a fact of life. I think Deanna is handling Wurmi very well!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 5:27 pm

      In this particular case we’d enjoy being able to beat that Baffoon at his own game. Just as Deanna said, “their sex life was their private business” and he back peddled quickly!

  333. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:23 pm

    How is this line of questioning relevant?

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:24 pm

      It’s not!!!! He just trying to humiliate her!

  334. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:24 pm

    I am seeeeeeeething!!!!!!

  335. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:25 pm

    a murder trial talking about the dating habits of friends of the victim! Why are we at this point!

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 5:27 pm

      Consider the defense team. Nothing is off limits to them.

  336. PK
    04/23/2013 at 5:25 pm

    Unless a woman is Muslim or Hindu premarital sex is not a death wish and is quite common among ALL Christian sects, Mormons included. I know first hand as a BYU grad with a healthy sex life then and now with or without my Bishop’s blessing.

  337. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:25 pm

    LOL! Wurmi says he wants to approach and Juan jumps up to head to the bench. I trained reaction at this point.

  338. 04/23/2013 at 5:25 pm

    Jodi Analingus

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:27 pm

      LOL

    • 04/23/2013 at 7:42 pm

      Fabulous!! Too funny!!

  339. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 5:26 pm

    Squirmy Wurmi will eventually work in Astroglide… S L O W L Y!

  340. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:28 pm

    That this woman has to go through this BS with this moron kills me

  341. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:28 pm

    All Wurmi is doing is pissing off the jury at this point!!!!

  342. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 5:29 pm

    Oh geeeeezzzzz…..here we go….next will be the 3 names he called JA! Just has to throw this stuff out there. Go ahead…..do it….and see what it gets you!

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      04/23/2013 at 5:30 pm

      He didn’t call her anything because she didn’t ACT that way…..as JA did! He called a spade a spade!!

      • Nancy Pennington
        04/23/2013 at 7:48 pm

        Or a slut a slut, as the case may be.

  343. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:29 pm

    TORTURE ALERT! Squirmy wormi on the prowl

  344. 04/23/2013 at 5:30 pm

    I forget who said it, things are flying fast and furious, but I believe if nurmi went there, it was Jodi’s words, her behest., not necessarily Nurmis

  345. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:30 pm

    OMFG!!!!!! Do we have to hear this AGAIN?????? Please make this stop! 😡

  346. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:30 pm

    why is the judge allowing this crap….

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 5:33 pm

      exactly; this whole system is really getting me now

  347. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:31 pm

    All his questions are based on what the wobo said. Wormi loves this part; he gets to say all his perv thoughts

  348. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:31 pm

    Poor Deanna is starting to get really upset and pissed at Wurmi. My heart hurts for her!

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 5:32 pm

      me too.

  349. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 5:31 pm

    Wurmi is disgusting

  350. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:33 pm

    I don’t understand why this line of questioning is allowed?

  351. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 5:33 pm

    So in other words- Travis treated Deanna with respect, because she behaved respectfully- and he treated JA like a skank, because she behaved like a skank- we get it! Move on!

    • kristin
      04/23/2013 at 6:34 pm

      Lol! •°•°• those are virtual peppermints for Sweet Boy:)

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 7:09 pm

        Awwwww! Thanks hon! He LOVES peppermints and gumdrops!

  352. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:34 pm

    He is going to go over JA entire testimony and torture not only Deanna but the entire Alexander family as well.

  353. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:34 pm

    asking his former GF about his family; where is the judge in all this

  354. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:34 pm

    OMG Sam and her brother are both crying!!!!!! Judge stop him please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 5:36 pm

      Awful! Heart wrenching!

  355. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    If I’m a juror I vote to kill JA and incarcerate Nurmi for life.

    • Kathy A.
      04/23/2013 at 5:36 pm

      Hear, hear!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:08 pm

      I wish someone would – don’t care who at this point!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  356. 04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    I think this line of questioning is Jodi’s! in an attempt to humilate her “People are human…” Not Jodi.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 5:37 pm

      I think he’s trying to further discredit Travis to reinforce the profile of an abusive relationship with throat-cutter arias

  357. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    Alexander family weeping

  358. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    He’s trying to keep her focused on the bad stuff about his parents, but she does just the opposite!! Go Girl!! Shut that Baffoon down!!

  359. wickedceltics
    04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    This line of questioning is WAY out of line

  360. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    The odds are that at least a few of jurors have addiction in their families and will be
    understanding.

  361. LindaLou
    04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    Can this DT drag this man and his family thru the mud anymore than they already have. So, so sad. I can hardly stand it!

  362. Kathy A.
    04/23/2013 at 5:35 pm

    What is the point of all this? What Deanna knew about Travis’s childhood and their sex life, etc?

  363. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:36 pm

    This is the result of giving unlimited funds to killers as a “right”

  364. 04/23/2013 at 5:37 pm

    “Was this a one time mistake?” What a scumbag. Jodi is directing the show here.

  365. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:37 pm

    Alabama give something like $2500 for the whole defense

  366. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 5:37 pm

    Lizard tongue is in high gear!

  367. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:38 pm

    You are a friggin’ SCUMBAG!!! YOU WURM!

    • 04/23/2013 at 6:08 pm

      Thank you Tracey. I am absolutely incensed at his questioning. He is so much worse than a SCUMBAG!!!! Are there any other words to describe him?????

      • Tracey A
        04/23/2013 at 7:45 pm

        Hey there Girl! How are ya today??? 🙂 Didn’t see you pop in.

  368. 04/23/2013 at 5:38 pm

    Donchais – I think I’m in moderation b/c I changed user name from oldgirl58 to brightgirl58. I’m sorry. I’ll wait to post anything more. Thank you 🙂

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:07 pm

      but brightgirl looks so much better on ya darlin’ 😀

  369. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:39 pm

    OK Juan give ’em hell!

  370. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:39 pm

    What a sick bitch. Give her the needle now!! Your game is over!!!!!

  371. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:40 pm

    I want to smack that smirk right off JA’s disgusting face.

  372. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:41 pm

    way to go Juanster!

  373. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 5:41 pm

    Great wrap up Juan!

  374. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:41 pm

    God job in final recross JM!!!

  375. 04/23/2013 at 5:42 pm

    Daddy what’s this trial about?
    Well, honey, it’s about analanalanalanalanalanalanalanal, analanalanal………………..

  376. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:42 pm

    What’s that rubbing her chin thing?

  377. wickedceltics
    04/23/2013 at 5:43 pm

    Guys, don’t forget she’s been made out as this “mastermind” that’s 12 steps ahead of all of us. She ain’t one step ahead of Juan I can tell you that!

  378. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 5:43 pm

    And the difference is ja is a modern day Succubus!

  379. Moon
    04/23/2013 at 5:43 pm

    SHAME ON YOU WILLNOT!!!!!!!!!! HOw do you sleep at night?? My God, that was so hard, yet touching, watching Sam & Steve… and in the mean time those bitches HO and willnot chatting it up and seemingly happy that it was tearing the family apart. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

    • PAM
      04/23/2013 at 5:55 pm

      You are so right but you know the jurors see them too. If it breaks out hearts it’s gotta be breaking theirs.

  380. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:43 pm

    can we re-institute drawing and quartering in the US for capital punishment?

  381. 04/23/2013 at 5:43 pm

    How many times, say 5-10?

  382. Kathy A.
    04/23/2013 at 5:43 pm

    Wurmi thought he was so clever with that “Guess it was a different relationship” remark at the end of his cross. You’re damn right it was.

  383. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 5:44 pm

    There JA….how does it feel to know YOU are the only WHORE in this whole sordid fairytale of yours! You’re disgusting!! NOW SIT DOWN YOU FAT SCUM BAG!! Hah….Deanne beat you….you fell flat on your face!!

  384. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 5:44 pm

    Oh that is a great juror queetion! WOW Law of Chastity …. a secret …

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 5:51 pm

      Loved that! Too bad tho that Wurmi was given another opportunity to say “close up pictures of genitalia!”

  385. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 5:44 pm

    There you go JA. You knew all the laws!!!

  386. 04/23/2013 at 5:45 pm

    He was a cad, someone had to put him down, (defense strategy)

  387. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 5:47 pm

    Wilnot and JA playing hangman again.

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 5:49 pm

      he he he he

  388. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 5:47 pm

    hard drive!

  389. Kathy A.
    04/23/2013 at 5:47 pm

    This must be the only sex Wurmi gets, because it’s all he focuses on.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:55 pm

      those who do, do – those who don’t, talk about it 🙂

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 5:57 pm

        also goes for the talking heads on TV

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 6:05 pm

        Exactly Robert!

    • kristin
      04/23/2013 at 6:38 pm

      U want to slap his fat and ride the wave?? Lolololol!

  390. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:50 pm

    JA probably thinks that entire cross was a success in her perverted mind. She has no idea what damage has been done to her case.

  391. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 5:50 pm

    OMG! This witness sounds a lot like Mickee D.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 5:54 pm

      wheres the big hat?

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 6:13 pm

      Minus the Chinese accent:)

  392. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:52 pm

    Torture alert! The worm is loose

  393. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 5:54 pm

    How old do ya think Gidget is????????????????

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 5:55 pm

      12?

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 5:56 pm

        no I mean seriously?????????

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 6:03 pm

        Thank you – I am absolutely lousy with ages.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 5:55 pm

      42

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 6:01 pm

      She completed her undergrad in ’92- I’d guess she is 42 or 43?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 6:36 pm

        I didnt know that; I was just guessing But I liked Jay’s 12

  394. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 5:54 pm

    computer froze! what was the juror question?

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 5:58 pm

      do you remember saying you stated in previous testimony that you found activity at 4:30 in the morning – watching youtube? I don’t recall saying that? Activity at 4:30? Don’t recall saying that!

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 5:58 pm

        never mind, ya wanted the juror question – is the law of chastity kept a secret or is it talked about in church?

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 5:59 pm

      About how available and frequent info about law of chastity was in the LDS

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/23/2013 at 6:13 pm

        Thank you MMD and Jay

  395. 04/23/2013 at 5:56 pm

    Hey ya’ll, I have a really slo pc, but every so often something will come up that shows the folks that responded and such to this thread, how do I do that?

    Did he ever ask you to wear an outfit like that?I didn’t see it, but I’m sure it’s the Spidey roos pic. (Jodi humiliating her

    Holy Jesus, “Blowing hiuge loads!” Holy Jesus!!!!!

    • Anonymous
      04/23/2013 at 6:26 pm

      No….the french maid outfit….i believe….it went really fast

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 6:32 pm

      Bubble – I think you found the notification button. I found it by accident myself. In the upper right hand corner shown on the banner of this blog you should see what looks like a “pop up” window (should be just to the left of your name if you are logged it). Click that and should show everyone who replied. And you can answer right in that window. Hope this helps???

  396. PK
    04/23/2013 at 5:59 pm

    Please warning alert the next time the camera images the back side of thunder thighs. Yuk!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:02 pm

      Ah PK you do make me laugh until I cry 😀

  397. 04/23/2013 at 6:05 pm

    Hi all, I’ve been watching from early this morning but HAD to get up for a shower and get ready for work so jumped in when Melendez was being questioned by Wurmi figured he’d go on longer than my quick shower but now back to the court seal. SO WHAT HAPPENED? Is all testimony over everyone resting? arghhhhhhhh need to know

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 6:08 pm

      Hi Essem- they’re on afternoon break- the Det. Was asked to recall testimony he previously gave-

      • 04/23/2013 at 6:09 pm

        Thank you, well that’s me for today off to work I go hi ho hi ho

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 6:09 pm

      Break time …

  398. 04/23/2013 at 6:05 pm

    Travis’s brother looks like he wants to kill

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:13 pm

      don’t blame him at all!!!

  399. Diana Bratt
    04/23/2013 at 6:10 pm

    Robert in Rotterdam :
    Alabama give something like $2500 for the whole defense
    </blockq
    -Alabama??!! Are you seriously recommending Alabama as a standard to live up to? Let me guess-the prosecution gets all of $2550. Please!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 6:16 pm

      no, I was being a bit facetious. But I dont think one is entitled to the “best and most expensive” defense, either..I mean 1.5 million dollars? What world are we living in?

      • Diana Bratt
        04/23/2013 at 6:52 pm

        In that case we’re in complete agreement.

        Also, I think Jodi is stalking this jury for the slightest misstep. During Deanna’s testimony I swear I saw her mouth “seven” while eyeing the jurors. The defense has flopped but Jodi’s still frantically trying to salvage this mess.

  400. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 6:11 pm

    Chris Stark ‏@stark3923 1h
    Numi gets paid over $2,100 a day
    Juan gets approx $200 a day
    Jury gets $12 a day

    Interesting especially when we see who is doing the better job!!!

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 6:19 pm

      The Jury pay in az is 12 only if trial is less than 5 days.
      Arizona extended trial fund pays what the person lost out on from work .. up to $300 a day. Retired and unemployed are something like $40 a day.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 6:20 pm

      thats what i mean; since when do defendants get $250 an hour lawyers for 5 years after they admit killing someone. The right to “an” attorney is just that. Spending upwards of a million dollars seems absurd to me. I hope the people in AZ feel the same way. Matter of fact. I think hourly rates for most lawyer jobs is another product of self interest in the professioin. They sety the rules that we have to abide by. Why?

  401. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 6:16 pm

    we are on …

  402. 04/23/2013 at 6:18 pm

    It’s over for her. And she thinks she’ll be set free with an apology.The defense just popped up from under a beach in China. They just established that Jodi was the slutto supremo…

  403. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 6:19 pm

    Going back a bit… When Wurmi was questioning Deanna about whether or not she was “heartbroken” by Travis, she explained that she was sad, but not heartbroken- that she was not focused on the relationship, because she was busy and dedicated to her work in Costa Rica- in OTHER WORDS, she had a life! And was NOT OBSESSED! JA had no life other than Her obsession with Travis.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 6:25 pm

      exactly. She performed heroically facing the big oaf

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 8:06 pm

        Amen Robert- She remained poised, regardless of how that scum tried to humiliate her.

  404. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 6:22 pm

    Wow, Wurmi just did a double chicken wing – he’s expanding his repertoire, since that’s all he’s got.

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 6:25 pm

      His one and only talent!

  405. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 6:24 pm

    Where is this going?

  406. LindaLou
    04/23/2013 at 6:26 pm

    We’ve been thru all of this already, Wurmi,. Move on

  407. 04/23/2013 at 6:27 pm

    Methinks Juan is gonna bring this home if not today, then tomorrow. I’m behind yall, watching HLN. Which isn’t a bad thing when your favorite intoxicant is beer.

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 6:29 pm

      yeah but it takes a case just to get thru jane velez mitchell

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 6:30 pm

        That and a set of earplugs!

      • Lisa M
        04/23/2013 at 7:14 pm

        Yes, Jay, it does! And unfortunately I don’t drink, so I use the mute button a lot!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:30 pm

      Enjoy bubble – ya have a long night ahead of you 😆

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 6:31 pm

      NO Bubble .. don’t get my hopes up. lol

  408. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 6:28 pm

    if the data don’t fit (no porno) you must admit – guilt

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:31 pm

      good try but it won’t fly – keep imbibing cause I’m sure you’ll come up with something better 🙂

  409. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/23/2013 at 6:30 pm

    Wormi is a version of LaLa; suck on the breasts of government money

  410. 04/23/2013 at 6:33 pm

    @Jay, love how LaViolette made that “mistake” about the porno on his computer. Then Jodi had to switch the story to he was jerking off to torn out pictures from the Sears catalog.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 6:43 pm

      YES good to be reminded of that!

  411. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 6:33 pm

    Great Jury questions!!! Awesome! Whoa! 90 photos in total???

    • truejustice
      04/23/2013 at 6:37 pm

      are all 90 from when ja was there, or do they span days , weeks, etc.
      I know my camera has over 250 spanning the last year (ya, ya, really need to make time to copy over)

      • Tracey A
        04/23/2013 at 6:42 pm

        We may never know. I wish we could find out though.

  412. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 6:34 pm

    The answer to that last juror questions puts the knife in the lying murderer’s chest…

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 6:37 pm

      that means she deleted one folder from the memory stick, not something you could do on auto pilot on PTSD —

      bye bye fog,
      bye by happiness
      hello prison cell lonliness
      bye bye arias bye bye

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 6:42 pm

        lied, cried, gonna fry 🙂

  413. truejustice
    04/23/2013 at 6:34 pm

    Not related but I’ve been hoping for this for YEARS!!!!

    Per cbs5az ….. PASADENA, Calif. (AP) – The Bowl Championship Series will be replaced by the College Football Playoff.

  414. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 6:34 pm

    Wonder what this is about?????????????? Hope she tears a new one with Wurmi!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 6:39 pm

      He’ll probably enjoy it if it takes an hour, another $225 in his pocket.

      • MMD
        04/23/2013 at 6:43 pm

        it’s $300 if it is in court

  415. LindaLou
    04/23/2013 at 6:39 pm

    Now I remember who Wurmi reminds me of. The way he bends his neck to review things is so weird and the chicken wing thing……remember the old cartoon Beaky Buzzard, Wurmi looks like the mother….

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=RuN-tFvgRc0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRuN-tFvgRc0

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 6:43 pm

      Omg! YES!!! That’s perfect! Hysterical!!! Snort!!!

  416. 04/23/2013 at 6:39 pm

    In the age of porno on phones, TA is going to look at a picture from Boys Life? Comon.

    Also, relevant or not, Youtube is not the place for porn, so I’ve been told.

  417. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 6:39 pm

    Great Questions!!!!! Yup! NO PORN! If Travis was a pedophile- he would have not been able to resist searching for pics/ or videos! And the police NEVER located the photographs JA says she saw on his bed- Why would he throw them away? He didn’t know he was going to be murdered, and have his entire home searched! More than any of the thousands of LIES this skank has told, the pedophilia lies sicken me the most!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 6:48 pm

      When its all over, it will be interesting for the jurors to learn of wobo’s efforts to put fake letters into evidence about pedophilia.

      • 04/23/2013 at 6:53 pm

        RnR, seriously! All the bullshit! Love to see that interview, as the interviwer sits with them as all that stuff comes up. But, seriously, 14 people…Tell me not one of them watches? Not one of them’s spouse is not watching intently…Pillow Talk.

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 6:56 pm

        And learn that Mamma Arias unsuccessfully tried to sell them to the National Enquirer! So smarmy!!!

  418. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 6:41 pm

    Who’s left on Juan’s rebuttal list?

  419. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 6:41 pm

    Could we be done with rebuttal? Are they argueing about the sur-rebuttal? Or is the next witness for the Prosecution a dicey one? Who is left?

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:44 pm

      Det. Flores

  420. 04/23/2013 at 6:43 pm

    @Linda Lou, didn’t she call him Norman?

    • LindaLou
      04/23/2013 at 6:49 pm

      You know Bubble, I’m not sure but Norman does sound familiar. In this one she called him Killer, I think. There are other vids out there, I’ll have to check

  421. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 6:44 pm

    Did the last witness get excused, the computer guy?

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 6:47 pm

      His testimony is completed.

  422. 04/23/2013 at 6:45 pm

    I think JA has her eye on another juror… She keeps eyeballing someone on the jury…Jean C said on hln a “refined” woman juror didn’t like the way Wurmi questioned Deanna..

  423. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 6:46 pm

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Travis’ brother and sister when back to chambers now. #JodiArias just went back as well.

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
    Counsel went back into chambers as did Mike B. the court reporter.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 6:47 pm

      Oh my ….. interesting ….

  424. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 6:46 pm

    WildAboutTrial says they’re all in judge’s chamber,including court reporter — something’s up…

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 6:49 pm

      Maybe this is in regards to the surrebuttal and lesser charges of manslaughter?

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 6:55 pm

        I think they will do the manslaughter thing in open court — called a “charge conference”. They will go thru all the details of jury instructions too. Sort of interesting, technical.

  425. MMD
    04/23/2013 at 6:46 pm

    I bet they’re gonna call it a day!

    • NapaNonnie
      04/23/2013 at 6:56 pm

      You were right on.

  426. 04/23/2013 at 6:47 pm

    I’m just going to throw this out there…Jodi has her glasses propped on her filthyy hair. My glasses I treat like fine china., not like I’m para-sailing on The Coast and posing for a picture.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 6:53 pm

      its a prop basically; most people who wear glasses know how to use them and care for them. During Watergate, John Dean was given a pair of glasses to wear to make him appear less sleazy. It’s the lawyer’s playing costume designers.

      • 04/23/2013 at 6:58 pm

        Indeed RnR. Use the technique myself.

  427. 04/23/2013 at 6:50 pm

    Hi everyone
    Mr Executioner man, Can hodi get the hanging ala 1936 so her head pops off and roles down the lane, pleazzzzzzzz.
    sperminurmi puts me into ptsd slow mo.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      04/23/2013 at 6:55 pm

      Have to admit, I had images of her head rolling and I liked it

  428. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 6:50 pm

    What other salacious detail is left? What other detail is left? I think they may be arguing in chambers about the State resting and whether the defense gets their sur-rebuttal. What have we missed?

  429. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/23/2013 at 6:51 pm

    MMD :
    lied, cried, gonna fry

    LIED, FRIED, AND LAID TO THE SIDE!!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:58 pm

      even better 🙂

  430. Lisa M
    04/23/2013 at 6:53 pm

    Have anyone ever noticed how creepy Nurmi’s hands are?

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:58 pm

      I try not to look at him 😦 not always successful!

    • Tracey A
      04/23/2013 at 10:33 pm

      LOL! That’s all you find creepy??? 😀

  431. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 6:54 pm

    Speculation on twitter that witness #7 sneered at Nurmi when he asked those salacious questions of the witness – arias picked up on it and told her lookalike lawyer… again, speculation

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 6:58 pm

      that juror # 7 sneered

    • Lisa M
      04/23/2013 at 9:22 pm

      The defense can’t just pick jurors off one by one. That’s ludicrous. Someone has an expression they don’t like so they’re gone? No, it doesn’t work that way! Not saying they won’t try but what do they base it on? They should have made sure jurors weren’t offended by creepy, perverted defense lawyers then before they accepted them.

  432. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 6:55 pm

    here we go

  433. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 6:56 pm

    over till 1:30 tomorrow

  434. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 6:58 pm

    Crud! (can I say Crap!) I bet she went for the surrebuttal and the defense has to get the guy here …. oh c’mon! NO WAY!!!!!!!!

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 6:59 pm

      More likely they are going to argue the motions in the morning.

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 7:01 pm

        Oh yeah … maybe …. maybe Jay is right and that is why they all trotted back. I am just getting paranoid. We are so close now!

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 6:59 pm

      guess we’ll have to wait for the leaks 2night to find out what happened.

    • MMD
      04/23/2013 at 7:00 pm

      hopefully since it’s a 3 day week as it is 😦

  435. Marilyn N
    04/23/2013 at 7:01 pm

    Is that it from Juan??

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 7:02 pm

      don’t know – where’s Beth Karas when you need her?

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 7:05 pm

        No kidding! And how do you take that yelling Jane, hoping for a rational update. Your mellow tall drink?

  436. Jay
    04/23/2013 at 7:01 pm

    My head hurts! I need a mellow drink in a tall glass..

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 7:02 pm

      And just out of curiosity, what might that be this evening?

      • Jay
        04/23/2013 at 7:08 pm

        Depends on who’s tending bar… Nurmi’s cross exam called for a Jack Daniels straight up… But the forensic guy’s ‘no porno anywhere’ finish may switch me to something more frivolous, like chilled tequila. You?

      • HJ Madison
        04/23/2013 at 7:23 pm

        Since I live in the land where beer flows from our faucet as though provided by our municipality, I am only now jumping into “cocktail hour”. I would say ….. Rum and coke.

  437. Family of Law
    04/23/2013 at 7:01 pm

    Yikes! I’m back to a BLACK screen! What’s happening?

    • Jay
      04/23/2013 at 7:03 pm

      courts over for the day… feed stopped

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 7:03 pm

      We done for the night …. jury back at 1:30 tomorrow.

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 7:20 pm

        Phew! Thanks-

  438. 04/23/2013 at 7:03 pm

    If I was ever murdered…good luck finding old lovers…They’re all alive, to my knowledge.

  439. Lisa M
    04/23/2013 at 7:06 pm

    Syntara :
    yeah but CC there is a kind of lying she does.. it’s all underhanded.. where you can’t actually Prove it.. that’s how really good manipulators work.. they lie blantantly where common sense tells you it’s lying.. but not so overtly that I went here.. when everyone knew she didn’t.. can’t explain it at the moment but there’s a patten to her lying and it’s well documented. It’s a strategy pathological liars use and saying she went to costa rica when she didn’t breaks that pattern

    My narcissistic, histrionic personality disorder friend is also a pathological liar. She lies like she breathes. The other day we went somewhere and I couldn’t help overhearing a phone conversation she had with her mother while I was a passenger in her car. Per usual, she lied to her mother about something, but then a short while later, in a conversation we had related to the one she had with her mother, she lied to me, saying she had told her mother something while on the phone that she actually hadn’t. She lies so often and it’s so embedded for her, that she didn’t even stop to think that since I was in the car with her, I knew what she was saying wasn’t true. It took me a moment, though, to realize, wait a minute, you never said that, because her lies flow so naturally. [I have been staying away from this person but let my guard down and went out with her and now have firmly resolved to keep my distance again!] Just amazing the way pathological liars work. They justify to themselves that the lie isn’t wrong because it aids them in getting something they want. It’s just a tool to manipulate people, which for them is second nature.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 7:11 pm

      “…..a tool to manipulate people, which for them is second nature.”

      And, they think WE are idiots for not doing the same! It is amazing how easy it is for them!

    • 04/23/2013 at 7:13 pm

      I sat right next to a PatoLiar, as she had a conversatrion on the phone paying a bill. She asked about the weather, had a conversation with a non-existant person. Paid the bill. And when I found out it was a lie. Got another lie.

  440. Lisa M
    04/23/2013 at 7:11 pm

    OMG, did Jane Valez Mitchell just use the phrase “moral high ground” in relation to Nurmi? Yes , she did!

  441. HJ Madison
    04/23/2013 at 7:17 pm

    Finally … Beth on HLN

  442. 04/23/2013 at 7:18 pm

    Jodi determines the defense strategy

  443. Lisa M
    04/23/2013 at 7:21 pm

    You know what REALLY drives me crazy about HLN? They’re already so behind because of all the commercials, and then they add commentary AND flashbacks to earlier trial moments and other miscellaneous photos and videos like the one of JA doing a handstand. If I have to see that video one more time… ARGH! Right now they’re showing Travis in the shower for the millioneth time. Oh, now we have that moronic brunette defense attorney who becomes so outraged any time someone criticizes the defense team. Okay, I’m done. No more JVM. No time spent on the court proceedings; it’s 7:20 and they’ve just teased some other irrelevant bs they’re coming back to after the break.

    • HJ Madison
      04/23/2013 at 7:26 pm

      I agree … can not STAND that screamer! I am tuning out until Dr. Drew. By then Beth will have an answer on what is happening tomorrow.

  444. 04/23/2013 at 7:26 pm

    Scalping tickets. Hey, scumbags, show up at 7:30 in the morning at the courthouse with bullshit, and peddle your phony tickets…there’s a fortune to be had,,,

  445. 04/23/2013 at 7:42 pm

    It’s ALL based on her word.

    “Those sex tapes are a slacious sideshow!” John Leiberman, who I might mention is also on the Howard Stern show.

  446. 04/23/2013 at 7:46 pm

    Cross Eyed Jodi…Blamalamma

  447. 04/23/2013 at 8:15 pm

    If the defense gets a surrebuttal, does that mean the prosecution a rebuttal?

    • donchais
      04/23/2013 at 8:19 pm

      Would be called a sur-surebuttal and yes, have seen it happen before in other venues!

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 9:13 pm

        As long as there is not a sur-sur- surrebuttal! Lol!

  448. ctc111
    04/23/2013 at 8:28 pm

    Anonymous :
    Do they have exchange programs for High School Drop-outs?

    I wondered that to and she says she only went for a few weeks. doesn’t usually work that way?

    • Family of Law
      04/23/2013 at 9:03 pm

      When my son was in HS, he was a foreign exchange student in Nice, France, he had to have a B average in order to apply for the program. Not sure about her HS in Yreka?

      • Family of Law
        04/23/2013 at 9:20 pm

        It was for a full semester- I’ve personally not seen 3 week programs- other than summer programs offered by companies like “Overland” and “Outward Bound” (they’re a bit pricey).

  449. 04/23/2013 at 8:34 pm

    How canNancy grace claim they are going live to the courtroom, when this is testimony from 7 hours ago?

  450. Tracey A
    04/23/2013 at 9:05 pm

    Schaeffer :
    WOBO bought 24 gallons of gas in SLC, but also bought gas in Winnemucca, NV, Sparks, NV, and Redding, CA. I can understand Redding, as it is common practice to return a rental car with a full tank. The others, though, I’m not sure about.
    Tracey, help me out here. Is Salt Lake to Redding via Wunnemucca and Sparks a mountainous trek? Why would she be buying all that gas? She had obviously used what was in the 3 cans earlier in the trip. She never returned the gas cans to Darryl, so that wasn’t the reason she filled the cans. What do you think?

    Schaeffer – I am unfamiliar with I-80 east of Lovelock, NV (Winnemucca, NV is another 73.49 miles further east) but the topography shown on my road atlas indicates that this not a mountainous area.

    However, I-80 west from Sparks, NV to Redding, CA is very mountainous terrain as you have to crossover the Sierra Nevada Range through the Tahoe Nat’l Forest. She had enough gas she purchased for the fuel tank in the car to easily make the longest stretch of the route which was SLC to Winnemucca [Mapquest 4.59 hrs 353.69 miles].

    I can only speculate as to why she filled the gas cans between SLC and Sparks. Venturing a guess, I would say that her own car, waiting for her at the rental agency, was I likely running on fumes and she knew this. I think she was probably pressured on time knowing that Travis’ body would be discovered at some point and needed to get back to Yreka ASAP. But that’s simply a guess.

    • Marilyn N
      04/23/2013 at 9:38 pm

      And the gas was possibly cheaper in SLC than CA and, as we all know, that is why she
      got the gas cans to begin with! HAHA………

      • Tracey A
        04/23/2013 at 10:28 pm

        LOL! Without a doubt! Jenius that she is!

  451. 04/27/2013 at 10:50 pm

    New road sign before Hoover Dam for persons without an Einstein IQ

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