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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Fifty-Four, Discussion Continues, 2

04/28/2013

Well done, carry on!

Thx,

donchais

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  1. katie
    04/28/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Does anyone know if Juan would be allowed to put up a video tribute to Travis during his summation..The jury needs to see Travis not just sit there and look at Jodi

    • MMD
      04/28/2013 at 3:16 pm

      I sure hope so and it would be nice if the jury could hear and see him as he usually was since all they’ve heard is his half asleep sex tape.

    • WhereIsSHE
      04/28/2013 at 5:43 pm

      Lawyers are restricted to using and/or referring to evidence (including the demonstrative evidence, e.g., photographs, videotapes, etc) that was admitted into evidence by the court during the trial–and/or to drawing what we refer to as “reasonable inferences” therefrom.

      He has to be very careful here.(He knows this, and he will be certain not to cross any line that would jeapordize the verdict.)

      But, since you asked:
      Yes, he can use the photographs that are “in evidence”, but he has to be very careful in how he does that. He cannot create “new” evidence. A pictorial “tribute to Travis” would be over-the-line.
      It could be grounds for the judge to set aside the verdict, even.

      He can certainly show photographs of Travis that were admitted into evidence and make points during his oral presentation, but again, he has to focus on the state’s burden of proof (which does not require the state to prove that Travis was a “great guy”). In fact, it is typically prohibited for the prosecution to try to get the jury to vote based on sympathy.

      Think about it this way:
      The state has a burden of proof, and that is what the state must show.
      In this case, in a nutshell, the state must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Jodi Ann Arias intentionally and unlawfully killed Travis Alexander. (No requirement to show exact date or exact weapon, etc.; just that SHE is the one who intentionally killed him– and, due to her defense of “self-defense”, that she had no legal “excuse” or “justification” for doing so.)

      The policy (reasoning) behind this–in a nutshell– is this:
      We want juries to find a defendant guilty of a crime, because they are the one who committed the crime, irrespective of whether or not the victim was a “great guy”. (Some murder victims are scoundrels/criminals themselves, but anyone who intentionally and unlawfully killed them is subject to the same charges and prosecution as anyone who intentionally and unlawfully kills a “great guy”. In short-=- Murder is Murder. It is a capital crime, no matter how wonderful and kind the victim; no matter how unfriendly and odd the victim; no matter how unsavory and unloved the victim.)

      There are a lot of restrictions on counsel during closing arguments. While there is some room for variance among the states, here is the list that Judge Perry provided to counsel in the Casey Anthony case, just to give you an idea of what is fairly standard:

      Other things the attorneys are not allowed to do include:

      • Offering their personal opinions on the guilt of the defendant or the credibility of witnesses
      • Asking the jury to place themselves in the position of the victim or the defendant
      • Commenting on the other side’s decision not to call a particular witness, unless the judge approves of it first
      • Using derogatory terms to refer to the defendant, a witness or opposing counsel
      • Ridiculing the defendant’s theory of defense
      • Making statements with the sole purpose of evoking the sympathies, fears or biases of the jury
      • Commenting on the defendant’s demeanor in the courtroom
      • Commenting on objections made by the other side
      • Making an argument that is “fairly susceptible” to being interpreted as referring to the defendant’s choice not to testify
      • Referring to the potential impact of the verdict on the community or “some larger social good”
      • Making statements that shift the burden of proof from the prosecution to the defense
      • Making comparisons to other highly-publicized cases

      • Jim
        04/28/2013 at 10:56 pm

        Thank you for the time, effort, and thought required to provide this “plain english” reply – that post will no doubt be one of the most helpful contributions we could have, as we approach this coming Thursday afternoon/Friday….

      • 04/29/2013 at 5:06 am

        wow WIS – this is great. I’m copying this so I can refer to it right before we hear the summations.. or closings.

        As Jim said, thanks for breaking this down for us.

      • C.I,
        04/29/2013 at 2:34 pm

        Thank you so much for this – explains it all

      • WhereIsSHE
        04/29/2013 at 4:59 pm

        My pleasure.
        NOTE: Both sides DO try to push some of the boundaries of SOME of the rules. The most often pushed–by both prosecution and defense–is the one about not making statements for the SOLE purpose of evoking the SYMPATHIES, FEARS or BIASES of the jury.
        Clearly, the State wants the jury to feel sympaty for Travis (and his family). There are ways to get to that, so long as the statemens made can be argued as not being SOLELY made for the forbidden type of purposes.
        Also-lawyers in closing speak to the credibility of the witnesses, because the jury will be instructed on and be judging the credibility of the witnesses.
        But they can’t say that they, personally dont believe so-and-so, etc.

        I could fill pages here, but I will leave it at that.

        IN Session replayed most of Juan’s Opening Statement this morning.
        He certain to hit on all of the key points her made in his Opening; to incorporate the evidence admitted during the tral to prove what he PROMISSED the jurors he said it would prove in his Opening; and to make his argument (put all of the pieces of the puzzle together for them such that the picture reads “GUILTY on Murder ” ) with his final argument opportunities.

        I am barely here lately–just popping in and out from time to time, so if someone asks a question to me and I don’t respond, it isn’t because I am not interested. Just not enough time tbe here right now.

        Hope all are well and hanging in there til Wednesday, Thursday and Friday!

  2. 04/28/2013 at 3:00 pm

    @Katie, I think at some point JM could do that. Probably show him in life, then a pic in the shower with throat cut, then her saying, “Mark my words, no jury will ever convict me.”

    • Katie
      04/28/2013 at 6:20 pm

      Thank you for the information…just sad he can’t even be at his own trials except photos of him with his killer or pictures of him dead…he was a person!!

      • 04/28/2013 at 9:45 pm

        Not to miss the point you’re making, cuz I get it, but even if Travis were alive (like if this were attempted murder), he wouldn’t be allowed to be at his own trial since he’s a testifying witness subject to recall. Can’t even describe to ya’ll how frustrating that rule is when you are indeed the victim of a crime…to not even witness the trial of your perpetrator. The criminal gets to watch the whole thing, but not the victim.

  3. 04/28/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Anyone think it odd that JA would deny vociferously that she had not cut her finger during the comission of the crime…Why would she insist she hadn’t cut herself, leaving the impression that she had brutally killed him, and she came away scot-free, with NO injury whatsoever?

    • MMD
      04/28/2013 at 3:14 pm

      Consider the source bubble 🙄 Remember she said she wasn’t there and never figured she would be caught. Well hopefully a jury and a needle will make her rethink her position 😉

    • 04/28/2013 at 8:46 pm

      because she cannot tell the truth. To her truth is the enemy. Lies are the safe haven to pathological liars.

      • kristin
        04/29/2013 at 6:22 pm

        Hi syn! I asked before but didn’t catch your answer before link closed out. Is lying a characteristic of persons w BPD? Thank u:)

  4. 04/28/2013 at 3:03 pm

    bubblebutts :
    @Katie, I think at some point JM could do that. Probably show him in life, then a pic in the shower with throat cut, then her saying, “Mark my words, no jury will ever convict
    me.”

    Exactly Bubble!

  5. MMD
    04/28/2013 at 3:09 pm

    Laine said

    Yep, son is getting married in Oct which is alternately costing me a fortune and stressing me out! But I think I have it all under control now…flowers ordered wedding venue booked and paid for meals booked, flowers booked and on and on! Unfortunately the job pays for the fancy wedding since it’s only me and my son and his partner paying for it! so needs must! Unfortunately my ex husband of 25 yrs hasn’t spoken to our son in 10 yrs since he came out (my son not my ex lol)So I work to make sure he doesn’t have less just because his father is a dick! So it’s all go!! but hey isn’t that what life’s about! I love my life and I love my kids they are worth every hour spent 🙂

    ________________________________________________________________________________

    Sounds like you ex is a real dick and no great loss. Isn’t it wonderful where same-sex marriage is no longer an issue!!!! It has been legal here for ages along with abortion, universal health, 6 week elections, no religious right, 1 year paid maternity/paternity leave, etc. It still boggles my mind that so many countries are arguing about things we take for granted!

    It’s hard being the single parent. I know that I lost my very beloved father who passed when I was young so it was just my mum and I for so many years. It made for a very contentious relationship but we loved hard and we fought hard. No matter what, I never felt like I missed out on anything. I wanted for nothing. Plus I also grew up on an awesome dead end street where we kids were all so close and my next door neighbour (he was an only and gay) so we kinda grew up as brother and sister. His father took over taking me skiing every weekend and so many numerous other activities and they became my backup parents. My uncle from Hopkinton, MA and my Mum walked me down my aisle and my “brother” was in the wedding party. That was the one time I so missed my dad. I guess when they pass, it is easier to deal with than when they are still around and a dickhead.

    I’m sure that the wedding will go off without a hitch and will be absolutely wonderful. Then you can start the nagging about grandchildren (although I know your daughter has already given you some) 😀 I only managed to give my mum grand-dogs which she adored!!! I’m just as glad because the thought of being tied to my ex-husband for all these years would be unbearable!!! He and your ex would probably get along really well 😉

    • Laine
      04/28/2013 at 3:56 pm

      I’m so grateful I live in a country where for the most part he can live a normal happy life. It was one of my biggest fears when he came out that he would be hurt badly there was still some “queer bashing” going on back then I used to worry all the time. But people are so much more aware now and I think so many more guys have come out because it’s much easier now so I don’t worry quite so much. I guess the truth be known we always worry whatever or whoever they are! But he is such a credit to me intelligent, talented, kind…of course I’m biased lol I’ll try to post a pick of the wedding when it happens, they are both wearing kilts so will look very handsome! 🙂

      • Carmen
        04/28/2013 at 9:59 pm

        Laine, small world. I don’t live too far from Hopkinton. I worked in Southboro for several years and now work in Clinton. I love New England.

        I wanted to take a moment and comment on Jay’s comment even though I don’t post here very often.

        I have two adult children; a daughter and a son. Both are wonderful people and I love them equally and would give my life for them.

        My son is gay and I would not change a thing about him. He is who he is. He has expressed to me that he hopes to find Mr. Right and to settle down and get married some day. As his mother, I want that for him too. My son deserves the same happiness and rights that straight people are afforded in this country as he is a human being and a citizen of our great Nation and he is a better person than a lot of the straight men who occupy our space. My son was born gay. He didn’t choose to be gay anymore than I choose to be heterosexual. I can’t stand ignorant people and people who are so blindsided with hate. This only reinforces my belief that my son is a better person than Jay because my son accepts people for who they are and that he is not a judgmental jackass.

      • 04/28/2013 at 10:34 pm

        Could not have said it better myself. I would rather have a happy child who is true to themselves than put up a fake facade to make other people comfortable. Oh and Jay I am Catholic – and sometimes common sense prevails over teaching of the faith. but that is another discussion. Congrats to your son and his loved one and to you for being a great mom.

      • 04/28/2013 at 10:37 pm

        Could not have said it better myself. I would rather have a happy child who is true to themselves than put up a fake facade to make other people comfortable. Oh and Jay I am Catholic – and sometimes common sense prevails over teaching of the faith. but that is another discussion. Congrats to your son and his loved one and to you for being a great mom.

      • John
        04/29/2013 at 1:02 am

        Your son is certainly lucky to have a mother who is so supportive…..you are definitely to be commended(and good luck with the wedding…I’m sure it will be great!!!).

    • Family of Law
      04/28/2013 at 3:57 pm

      Thanks for bringing this over MMD

      Laine, like I said weeks before, you sound like a stellar mom! Your ex will lose out years of joy due to his “dickness”. The wedding sounds wonderful, and I’m sure it will be a great celebration! Cheers to you and yours!

      • Laine
        04/28/2013 at 4:09 pm

        Thank you FOL what a lovely thing to say. It will be a wonderful wedding filled with much love and it’s so sad that his father chooses to behave so badly. After ten years and at now 30 yrs old my son has come to terms with it and found peace, it is as you say his fathers loss. I’m so proud of him. 🙂

    • Laine
      04/28/2013 at 4:12 pm

      MMD you are indeed a lady after my own heart! my days are filled with love and peace since we split 10yrs ago! Thats just the way I like it!! lol Had enough dicks to last me a lifetime…and not in a good way 😆

      • MMD
        04/28/2013 at 6:14 pm

        Jay – we were having a conversation about being a single parent, weddings and dickhead ex-husbands, not a political or religious conversation. I am sorry that things Laine and I take for granted in life you find offensive. Of all things, I’m sure that Travis believed in freedom of speech and especially tolerance as the entire world is not made up of identical like minded people.

      • Family of Law
        04/28/2013 at 6:57 pm

        Here in Illinois, it’s cocktail hour. MMD & Laine- join me 🍸🍸🍸 (MMD, those squares are martinis).

      • MMD
        04/28/2013 at 7:32 pm

        Why FOL, Laine and I would love to join you! Thank you 😀

    • Jay
      04/28/2013 at 5:21 pm

      I know you’re not going to want to hear this, but gay marriage is a politically charged issue, and you may be in favor of it, but many others are not, including many practicing Mormons. I don’t know what Travis though of it, or his family, but LDS church doctrine still defines homosexuality as a sin, and as recently as March 26th the church reaffirmed its stance over the Supreme Court debate, firmly supporting “the divinely appointed definition of marriage as the union between a man and a woman.” And so what some of you think is a positive trend, others may find offensive. Which is a roundabout way of suggesting you may want to consider a different venue for that topic.

      • Laine
        04/28/2013 at 5:42 pm

        Jay…When you run this forum I may be inclined to listen to your advise. As far as I am aware donchais still holds that responsibility. This is not a political forum or a religious one. So until asked otherwise I will continue to write freely. You however may want to consider a different venue if my opinion or topic offends you.

      • Jay
        04/28/2013 at 6:03 pm

        It doesn’t offend me at all. I was one of the early civil rights activists who helped overturn the NY State Sodomy laws, used to harass and arrest Homosexuals, when same sex sex was illegal. The point is the site is presently seeking justice for Travis and his family, devout Mormons. And gay marriage is a subject extraneous to the trial. And as you state, this isn’t a religious or political blog, but the topic of gay marriage is both religious and political. Which was why I made the suggestion to take it elsewhere.

      • MMD
        04/28/2013 at 6:16 pm

        My above comment should have been a reply to Jay! Duh 😦

      • Family of Law
        04/28/2013 at 6:21 pm

        Jay, My mother was raised in the Church of Scotland (The Kirk)- She moved here to the US when she was 22, met my Dad, who was a devout Roman Catholic- my mom converted to Catholicism before they wed. My father was so devout, that he attended Mass EVERY day of his life, until his death at 84 (and still kneeled at appropriate times during Mass, when he could barely walk). My parents never wanted anything for my 4 brothers and I other than to be HAPPY and HEALTHY. Their religious beliefs were not a deciding factor as to how they viewed us, we were loved unconditionally. We were taught 1. Love of God 2. Respect for our parents 3. Love of family 4. Integrity . 5. Kindness

        Never was I taught these things were excluded if any of us were born Gay.

        You seem to enjoy being antagonistic- there are SO many blogs out there for people with your extreme views. I sincerely hope you find people that you can agree with and have stimulating conversations.

      • 04/28/2013 at 7:12 pm

        Jay you need to put your “strong negative views” as you called them behind you.

        You have recognised you have them, the next step is to do something about them. They are limiting you and at your age you should be long passed that.

        You have more potential than you are showing and it’s a waste of an otherwise intelligent mind.

  6. Douglme
    04/28/2013 at 3:54 pm

    My goodness, I am sitting here listening to the interrogation tapes and I cannot believe the patience of Det. Flores. Incredible!!!

  7. Allison
    04/28/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Hi all – if – as you are going through interrogation tapes and you come across anywhere that Flores eludes to , says, or anything about the shooting coming first please post where it is. I am still trying to find info. on that part. Thanks 🙂

  8. GN5020
    04/28/2013 at 5:35 pm

    Schaeffer posted some questions about temple garments in an earlier section of these Day 54 comments, so I’ll give brief answers here:

    “Garments” are given as part of the endowment ceremony in the LDS temple and are to be worn day and night as a symbol of devotion to the faith. (That means you do not start wearing them just upon baptism into the church, but after earning and maintaining a “temple recommend”). There are 4 small special markings to remind members of their temple vows as they go about their daily lives, and most feel a sense of “protection” from temptation when wearing them, not that they are magical in any way. Because the stretch knit top has a short sleeve and modest neckline, and the “boxer-brief” type bottoms goes almost to the knee, they do provide “protection” against wearing provocative clothing. In fact, LDS brides wear bridal gowns in temple weddings with sleeves and necklines that cover them. Garments are meant to be covered, against the skin (meaning bras are worn over them) and are only taken off to bathe, have sex, and for sports activities like swimming that require apparel that would not cover them. They are normally washed with other laundry, and if discarded due to wear, the special embroidered markings are cut out before discarding. I hope that answers your questions.

    • 04/28/2013 at 7:00 pm

      thank you I have been looking for an explanation to this question for a long time now. I appreciate it greatly.

    • MMD
      04/28/2013 at 8:17 pm

      I remember reading that yesterday and I saw that they are worn next to the skin but it just never occurred to me that you would wear your bra OVER it!!!! Makes sense though if they are to be worn next to the skin.

  9. donchais
    04/28/2013 at 6:14 pm

    play nice folks…should not have to ask! ya know better, pls!

    • Family of Law
      04/28/2013 at 6:25 pm

      Sorry Donchais! Humble apologies for getting off topic:)

      • 04/28/2013 at 10:44 pm

        so sorry donchais -no offense intended to you or anyone else here.

    • MMD
      04/28/2013 at 8:19 pm

      Sorry donchais – didn’t even occur to me when I posted my comment that it would start anything.

  10. Janna
    04/28/2013 at 6:17 pm

    All Travis Alexander supporters, check out this site. I just found it today!

    http://jodiariasguilty.com/purpose-of-this-jodi-arias-guilty-page-please-read/

    • MMD
      04/28/2013 at 8:47 pm

      While it’s not my cup of tea, I can appreciate the blogger being so furious that she was driven to do something about the injustice she saw and continues to see.

  11. donchais
    04/28/2013 at 6:29 pm

    OK, mom getting a little unhappy.. please get back on-track, or I will shut down…your decision folks….

    • Jill
      04/28/2013 at 7:45 pm

      Ty so much, I bookmarked it!

  12. Family of Law
    04/28/2013 at 6:34 pm

    Im carrying this over from the previous page:

    I posted a version of this in early April- Its just some of what rattles around in my brain now that the end is in sight….

    On May 26th, Travis wrote to JA telling her she was “The worst thing that ever happened”  to him. He had finally seen her for who she was! May 28th, she staged the burglary at her grandparents. Road trip was ON!

    There is no way I believe that Travis “guilted her” into coming to see him during her “spontaneous” road trip. He WAS done. I cannot imagine he would EVER invite her into his home again.  “If” JA did tell him she was coming to Mesa before Utah, why was her phone off for 18 hours? Wouldn’t she have called to let him know her progress? Let him know when she was almost there?

    1. JA was completely obsessed with Travis- she was unable to have NO communication with him for any length of time- even after she murdered him, she called, texted, emailed and journaled. Yes, all part of her “it wasn’t me” plan, but also, because she was even in his death, still OBESSED and needed to “contact” him.
    2. How did she clean herself up, do her hair and makeup before arriving at Ryan Burns? Yes, I too believe she showered “over his dead body”, but I believe she truly looked like Sissy Spacek as “Carrie” on Prom night- she must have been head to toe in blood. She would want to show up at Ryan Burns, looking “normal” (afterall, she was upset while being booked on Murder 1 without her hair and make up done) – so clearly she would PRIMP, to go see another man. How could she have done all of this, and the “clean up” in a FOG???? 
    3. I’m NOT convinced they had sex on June 4th. Travis was done with her, as of late May, I dont believe he agreed to even see her, let alone engage her further. All we have is “her word”, that they spent the day having sex and doing Calvin Klein photo shoots. (The picture of Travis sitting in the shower? I dont buy it! Why would a 180+ LB man choose to squash himself down in a very small shower stall?) She could have taken those “sexy” photos with a timer (I burned my retinas out seeing the pic of her over used snatch). And IF she was this “accomplished” photographer, why were the supposedly planned shower pics, dark, unfocused, and blurry? And I suspect, some were taken with a zoomed lens.
    4. Phone sex tape was planned by JA alone. Travis had NO idea it was being recorded. She manipulated him to say things, and coyly asked him to repeat things if they were slightly inaudible. Not once during the call did either of them reference it being recorded. This tape was for blackmail, not mutual pleasure.  If LAV knew WTF she was talking about, that would have been a red flag, and not a red herring- if Travis was indeed the control freak, raging abuser that she stated he was, he would NEVER have allowed JA to have sole control of that recording.
    5. I believe there are shards of truth in several of JA’s stories- JA wrote in her journal that she had a dream that TWO people were charged in his murder, one charged with murder, and the other charged with conspiracy.  (I think she was trying to implicate Matt M). It’s obvious that JA’s journal entries were all cunning, calculated words that she KNEW and WANTED to be read. IF JA had written any of her truth in her journals, she would have DESTROYED them- she knew she was going to be arrested- she told Det. Flores where her journals were, and said that “they’ll prove my innocence”.
    6. She forged documents claiming Travis was a pedophile.
    While leading her own defense, she attempted to blackmail the Prosecutor into a plea deal. (agree to give me Murder 2, and I won’t drag Travis and his family through the depths of Hell!) When denied, pedophilia was brought in as part of her “poor Travis was deeply sick, and wanted to be a better man, having sex with me helped cure his lust for baby boys in spidey under-roos, I’m a good girl, just trying to help”!!!!! Ack! NO pedophilia found in Travis’s home, not on any computer, and no photos. Where did the photos go that she saw him master-bating to?  
    7. Self Defense? Well, 9 stab wounds were to Travis’s back… And she had merely a cut finger…. 

    If the jury deliberates with these questions: 
    The Defense case:
    1. JA was a victim of DV? 
    2. Was Travis a pedophile? 
    3. Does JA suffer from PTSD? 
    4. Was JA Travis’s “dirty little secret”?
    5. JA “feared for her life” (because she dropped a camera?)

    The State’s case:
    1. Stolen .25 caliber gun one week prior to the murder
    2. No evidence Travis ever owned a gun
    3. No evidence of pedophilia in Travis’s home.
    4. Rented car (blonde hair, 90 miles away, obscure color).
    5. (3) gas cans (no return to Walmart)
    6. Dyed hair brown
    7. License plates altered
    8. Traveled through the state of Arizona without a paper trail, or GPS (phone battery removed)
    9. Travis had never been abusive in any prior relationships
    10. Wrote LIES in her journal “I just wish I knew how Travis died?” etc, etc, etc. 
    11. Changed story 3 times
    12. Tried to pass encrypted messages in magazines while in jail
    13. Used Ryan Burns as an alibi
    14. Was trying to flee from imminent arrest with her car packed with a 9mm gun and knives. 
    15. Over 90 photographs- some she “thought” she deleted. Time stamps show gruesome timeline of events.
    16. JA had a cut on her finger, Travis had 29 knife wounds, a slit throat, and a gun shot to his head. 
    17. She went to Ryan Burns for a romantic weekend, Travis lied dead in his shower for 5 days.
    (Not a complete list- just the highlights)

    • Janna
      04/28/2013 at 6:51 pm

      VERY powerful & compelling. Thank you for the incredible piece of work.

    • Laine
      04/28/2013 at 7:30 pm

      This is amazing….I wonder that JM never really went into the lies in her diary when he was crossing ALV….they clearly show a manipulation in the form of if her diary was found and yet AVL said she didn’t see manipulation! I really enjoyed this! thanks FOL

      • Family of Law
        04/28/2013 at 8:02 pm

        An attempt to “redirect” 🙂 Cheers to you 🍸

      • 04/28/2013 at 8:50 pm

        Laine I think he left the diary interpretation to Dr DeMarte. Why bother arguing with LaLa she was atrocious.

        DeMarte explained.. take the journals at face value.. which means just as they are written. This is the best way because then you can’t “read into” them and say oh she left this out because blah blah.

        It’s a simpler way than trying to explain those diaries are a projection of her public persona.

        Not sure if that’s a long enough answer because the subject is complicated but it covers the main gist.

    • 04/28/2013 at 10:58 pm

      thanks fol – lets cross fingers toes, eyes and throw salt over both shoulders for good measure that the jury see this as well.

      • 04/28/2013 at 11:16 pm

        I’m such a tweep from Massachusetts….Girl Scout Hope too…Justice for Travis and his family. ~~~~~hugs and ~~~~waves….xoxo

      • Family of Law
        04/28/2013 at 11:32 pm

        All those measures, + Juan = Justice:) Thanks C.I

  13. Janna
    04/28/2013 at 7:04 pm

    For all you Tweeters or those who only follow tweets –

    On 4/27 JA tweeted this message:
    “I’m working on a little project that is going to help support DV shelters. I’m hoping it’ll be off the ground this coming week.”

    How’s that for masterful manipulation and deviance ??????

    • 04/28/2013 at 7:23 pm

      yes that’s how she manipulates… by stealth.. pretending to be little miss perfect appealing to the gullible. Not with a sledgehammer and a blackmail recording or admitting she stole someone’s journals. She uses those in a far more stealthier way.

      She is insidious.. like an acidic fog that creeps into your your nostrils and into your body….at the same time she lingers in the background causing problems you can’t quite prove.. ie getting away with tyre slashing. Deliberately provoking him to anger then pretending she did nothing wrong and it’s all in his head, he’s misunderstanding, she meant no harm at all. That kind of thing.

      • Laine
        04/28/2013 at 7:31 pm

        I agree Syn, really creepy!

      • Family of Law
        04/28/2013 at 7:54 pm

        Hi Syn- what are your thoughts on the phone sex tape? If not for blackmail used on his future girlfriends- Was it just for her private kicks? I’ve tried to figure it out. Also, the Travis journals- do the Hugh’s have all of them, or are some still unaccounted for?

      • 04/28/2013 at 7:57 pm

        no I think it could have been for future girlfriends.. if you read my posts on it.. I just dont think it was to confront him with. That makes no sense on any level to me in view of her primary need to have him for herself.

        She would use it as an isolation tool definitely.. to a thrid party of some kind…. but in wa way that it wouldnt be directly traceable to her. and she would deny knowledge of it…. ie get MM to ring a gf and play it to them something like that.

      • 04/28/2013 at 8:02 pm

        journal.. far as I know some are still missing.. but I defer to others on that because in no way do I feel comfortable with that subject I have no definitive knowledge of their whereabouts.. from what I glean MM is involved there to

        All I can say with confidence on that is during her testimony every chance she got her or JW spoke directly to MM virtually pleading with him through that court camera not to turn on her.. he has a LOT that could out her.

        I think it’s to do with the pre-planning.. maybe the gas cans calculation something like that, I believe from third party sources he had the journals or access to them regarding these fake paedophillia letters so there’s another can of worms for her potentially and who knows what else he knows.

    • Marilyn N
      04/28/2013 at 7:31 pm

      Oh LaLaV must be so proud!!

      • MMD
        04/28/2013 at 7:42 pm

        I wonder what ALV truly thinks about JA now after being snookered so badly plus the accompanying backlash????? Wonder how that book is selling???????

      • 04/28/2013 at 7:43 pm

        Yep.. next LaLa lecture…. features Jodistein as the poster child of DV.. complete with blood dripping knife in one hand, gun in the other… freshly used fangs as she smiles.

    • Family of Law
      04/28/2013 at 7:57 pm

      Woah! That is beyond twisted! Good find Janna!!!!

    • Chrissie A
      04/28/2013 at 10:18 pm

      FYI – From a Tweeter – As soon as I found out that JA was a legitimate Twitter account, I blocked her. Secondly Tweeters will only see her posts if they want to – in other words it’s like any social media – you choose who’s updates you want to see.

    • 04/28/2013 at 11:07 pm

      Is this for real. Can’t believe she is still hiding behind DV and an insult for true DV victims. I am speechless I see that she has her grandmother now wearing the DV ribbon. That poor woman looked disgusted. I think this is another tactic of the Duh-fense – because the mother and aunt did not start wearing those ribbons until Latoilette was testifying. So disgusting on so many levels.

    • 04/28/2013 at 11:20 pm

      WTH..is this all about…is it a joke…? Sick

      • 04/28/2013 at 11:58 pm

        Janna posted a tweet made by JA on DV shelters.
        #52 zbove.

    • 04/29/2013 at 3:21 am

      OMG! Are you serious? She is such a sick piece of work…poor excuse for a human being. DV my a##. I bet Alyce is collaborating with her on this “project.” What will be the name? Snow Whites shelter for Domestic violence bullshitters? I mean really..The timing is pathetic and I wish Juan could drop this little tidbit in court.

    • 04/29/2013 at 5:44 am

      And Justice4Travis tweeted the following response:

      “The State is working on a little project also – the NEEDLE”

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 5:52 pm

        Essem!!! That is such a GOOD one! Love it!

  14. 04/28/2013 at 7:05 pm

    test

    • donchais
      04/28/2013 at 7:07 pm

      huh?

  15. 04/28/2013 at 7:13 pm

    I’m sorry for that Donchais… I tried to make a comment and it stated “unauthorised comments re not allowed” something along those lines.. so I then followed up with a test one after rechecking to see if you had closed the comments.

  16. JesusFreak
    04/28/2013 at 7:20 pm

    donchais :
    play nice folks…should not have to ask! ya know better, pls!

    Thank you, Donchais, I was hoping Jay might stop the “off the topic conversing” but he couldn’t.

    • 04/28/2013 at 10:03 pm

      I feel like I’m in Jr High. Let’s all not be friends with Jay today.

  17. 04/28/2013 at 7:29 pm

    For those who may be interested, The Wall Street Journal has an article entitled” The Criminal Mind” and it is located in the Review section of the paper. The article covers areas such as neuroscience and genetics. There is a video available to view@WSJ.com/Review.

  18. 04/28/2013 at 7:31 pm

    WhereIsSHE :
    Lawyers are restricted to using and/or referring to evidence (including the demonstrative evidence, e.g., photographs, videotapes, etc) that was admitted into evidence by the court during the trial….

    I think using Jodi’s words against her would be good. But we have already visited the “no jury will convict me”. Was her quote to Flores introduced into evidence through interrogation tapes of “If I killed Travis I would beg for death!”

  19. renae
    04/28/2013 at 7:54 pm

    Sorry to butt in but I have been reading this blog for some time. For people who are criticising the judge in the Arias case about leaving too much “in” …there is a very good article about that being the fact in almost all death penalty cases. Though it references the Aurora shooter, it does explain a lot of it.:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/02/death-penalty-is-the-wrong-punishment-for-james-holmes.html

  20. Moon
    04/28/2013 at 7:58 pm

    Jellloooooo ev1! Cheers 🙂

    Hi NancyB:

    Yesterday you posted a link to “blinkoncrime”. I have been reading from that and am befuddled by much of the bit about the memory cards. I am now going to go back and look at the first testimony by Martinez. Also I think it was Bubble who once posted that he thought 2 memory cards were in the washer, the one in TA’s cam and a loose one at bottom of washer. According to this site, they are agreeing with that and think that Martinez or that guy that came up with the ho’s reflection in TA’s eye might have even (in their forensic evail) combined the pics from both the SD card and the sony card from TAs cam. They also point to the part in the interrogation of the ho on Jul 15 that she herself says there are 2 memory cards, one from TA’s cam and one from hers.
    So, now I have to hear these things again! It seems as tho this site or person blogging has seen more pics then i am remembering?????
    This also now has me pondering the camera… neck strap or wrist strap???
    If it was on the wrist, and the ho didn’t drop it as she contends, then that shot of TA during the neck slashing might very well have been shot while dangling on the ho’s wrist as she was kneeled/hunched over dragging TA, and perhaps hit the wall, causing a ‘Godphotosnap’

    It is a very interesting read, and I thank you for sharing the link.
    It does, however, indicate that blogger is much more for the denfense, esp when I see all the kudo’s thrown out about slurmywurmi! Still in the throws of reading this and also there appear to be some links to more radio talk shows…

    Here’s the link, Thanks again Nancy B.!!
    http://blinkoncrime.com/category/travis-alexander/jodi-arias/

    Also, tupelomz… that bit on how do court reporters do it had me in stiches!! that is great– ty for sharing!

    • Moon
      04/28/2013 at 8:08 pm

      well duh again…not martinez……….melendez… the one Syn thinks has such a sexy accent!
      😛

    • Laine
      04/28/2013 at 8:10 pm

      Hi Moon, I believe in her testimony she said they used her camera at some point because Travis camera was new and they couldn’t figure out how to video with it….I will go and check… but this may be where the “two” memory cards issue is stemming from…

    • 04/28/2013 at 8:57 pm

      I’m under the impression there were two cards.. one separate in the washing machine.. have a look at the early days… the forensics woman who steps through what was in the washer.. the placement of the identification placards on relevant evidence.. she said there was a card in the washer and holds it up in a bag. I really got the impression from her testimony there was a separate card in the washer.. so have a look there.

      Then the camera guy sexy voiced menendez.. states the card he testifies about was inside the camera. This surprised me at the time cos I thought hang on I thought it was in the washer separately.

      The only think I could conclude.. because JW or nurmi whoever did that cross.. did not question it.. this could be because they are stupid.. or it could be because there is two types of cards.

      Ive questioned this a few times… I was going to look it up but someone explained it as two different kinds of cards.. but recently I asked Chrissie about this as to how the two cards would work and she was confused and said there should only be one card.. so I’m unsure of what’s going on with this again.

      Sooooooo if anyone has an answer to this it would be GREAT!!! 😀

      • Moon
        04/28/2013 at 9:07 pm

        did you check out that site, syn? they are saying that the pros f’d up and somehow mingled the pics together. it really makes no sense (to me anyway) exactly what they are trying to say…..

      • 04/28/2013 at 9:11 pm

        I’m sorry.. and absolutely no offense meant to whoever posted it.. because I think all of us should post anything we think is relevant because we could pick up on things we wouldnt otherwise…. but for me that page is kind of all over the place. It’s full of conjecture and some of it doesn’t make sense. I’m sure intermingled in there is some relevance but I found it very hard to get through and a lot I just thought huh? wtf? It’s like the person has an idea kind of starts of well with it then goes somewhere I can’t follow.

        If anyone can make better sense of it and put some summaries in I’d be very happy to comment on those.

    • Douglme
      04/29/2013 at 12:33 am

      Very interesting article and confusing at times but something was noted in there that I would like to comment on. They spoke of the screen from Travis office window being removed and thought maybe that was how she gained access to the house. When I was watching the interrogation video earlier today, Det. Flores asked Jodi is Travis knew she was coming and she wouldn’t answer him, so he asked again in a different way, did Travis let her in and again she didn’t answer, so I am thinking that Travis had no idea she was there and she had broken into his house. Does anyone else know anything of this issue?

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 2:58 am

        Just that we have seen pics of the screen on the ground, by the office window in the front of the house. It always struck me as odd because Travis was so neat and organized that he never would have left a window screen on the ground, in my opinion.

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 2:50 am

      Hi Moon! I’ve read the article a few times now and I remain as confused now as when I read it the first time, about the photo cards and what Blink’s point of view is about all that. I even went back to JA’s interrogation video’s to hear what she said about.those. I too, got the strong impression that she was for the defense, which is odd, because she purports to want justice for Travis. She seems to believe that the State has done something nefarious with respect to a few parts of the investigation and I am not convinced that is accurate from the little that we know. I definitely believe that there is a lot of evidence that has not been made public.

  21. Moon
    04/28/2013 at 8:01 pm

    ohhh the ho is back to tweeing? anyone have a link for that??? i still think that Juan should be able to use those during the penalty phase!!!

  22. Moon
    04/28/2013 at 8:02 pm

    lol tweeting….. even!

  23. 04/28/2013 at 8:05 pm

    Syntara :
    I’d like to view source of said article but that activates only as an email address for me any chance of another link or maybe posting excerpts? Thanks

    The article is extensive. If you do a search for the Wall Street Journal and then type criminal mind to search, the entire article will come up. I went on to see if it could be accessed without a subscription and I was able to do so. The video is also available for viewing but I haven’t done so yet.

    • 04/28/2013 at 8:23 pm

      I read it on the link Marilyn sent and it was as I feared.

      I have mentioned before, in my line of research there are what I call radicals. I believe this articles source is along those lines and for me it is very scary.

      This research is being used by some to justify the return of lobotomies and ‘shock treatment’ I find this extremely dangerous and narrow thinking not to mention downright unethical and immoral.

      The shock treatment idea is being thrown around to ‘reset’ the brain. Imagine if somehow a conscience can be ‘activated’ through electrical impulses (to this day no-one even knows what the conscience is.. they just know what the effects are on those of us who have it and those who don’t). Anyhow getting back to my point… if a psychopath suddenly awakens with a conscience what would they do? How would they react? Think about this seriously for a moment or two.

      It cculd drive them literally insane. Having that in your head and with all the things they may have done… all that guilt flooding over them in one hit… who knows what they might do. To me that could be far more dangerous than leaving the psychopath as is. I just find the whole idea extremely short sighted and certain elements in this research are being funded by people with exactly this agenda.

      Terrifying stuff to me. This is NOT what this cutting edge research should be used for, but it is the nature of the machine we live under unfortunately.

      • Moon
        04/28/2013 at 9:04 pm

        I have a crazy step aunt that has had mental problems for years…. many suicide attempts. and threats to family members. about 20 yrs ago ( and many many years ago prior) this woman went thru shock therapy… at that time she had been threatening to kill her tjem 5 yr old grandson (she kept telling her family not to leave her alone with him). this prompted the family to get her evaluated/ I haven’t seenthis lady in years, but i hear that for the most part she sits at kitechen table like a zombie smoking one cig after the other) I don’t know if she even communicates any more with any family members other than her husband. They both are now in their 80s. It is scarey stuff and I made sure my daughters were never around this person.

      • 04/28/2013 at 9:18 pm

        ya Moon.. this is a form of that but an updated version. I used ‘shock treatment’ because it is akin to what you are talking about.

        To me it’s very dangerous territory to be stepping back into.

      • Moon
        04/28/2013 at 9:25 pm

        yes, agree!

        I am so thankful you are here! luv ya 🙂

  24. Family of Law
    04/28/2013 at 8:08 pm

    Syntara :
    journal.. far as I know some are still missing.. but I defer to others on that because in no way do I feel comfortable with that subject I have no definitive knowledge of their whereabouts.. from what I glean MM is involved there to
    All I can say with confidence on that is during her testimony every chance she got her or JW spoke directly to MM virtually pleading with him through that court camera not to turn on her.. he has a LOT that could out her.
    I think it’s to do with the pre-planning.. maybe the gas cans calculation something like that, I believe from third party sources he had the journals or access to them regarding these fake paedophillia letters so there’s another can of worms for her potentially and who knows what else he knows.

    Wow! The “pleading” throught the TV camera to MM! “He would never betray me… I don’t think”? That’s when I wondered if Juan was going to bring him in- But, Juan is too smart for that, he couldn’t risk MM perjuring himself- Thanks for your insights.

    • Moon
      04/28/2013 at 8:11 pm

      i wonder if MM had the journals so he could try to perfect TA’s writing, since he was the one that forged the pedo crap…..

      wonder if the law searched his place?

  25. Marilyn N
    04/28/2013 at 8:15 pm

    this just started a few minutes ago – Beth Karas is a guest……
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/29/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern

    • Janna
      04/28/2013 at 8:23 pm

      Marilyn, I LOVE this radio show. Chris Hughes is going to be their guest speaker next Sunday.

    • Moon
      04/28/2013 at 9:27 pm

      thanks for the reminder, Marilyn. I am now listening to the recast. next week, TA’s best friend (dave hall) will be on her show.

  26. Moon
    04/28/2013 at 8:53 pm

    another big glaring item for me is this blinkoncrime site talks of the duct tape… they swear it had been around TA’s arm! I totally disagree. For one, we’ve already been informed from a good friend of TA’s that he wore some kind of buddy band to hold on his exercise monitoring equip.. not to mention that it appears to be a knife sheath. however, it appears that this was not brought in to evidence? could this be true? if not whyyyyyyyyyyy not? also DNA should have been tested from this tape… was it???

    • 04/28/2013 at 9:04 pm

      questions I want answered too!!! I would love to see a 3d of that … that duct tape has bugged me forever! I hope it is as simple as it was around his arm but it makes more sense he had a strap for that rather than always using duct tape, unless the strap slipped as he slept so he liked something more secure for it.. plus it just looks wrong in the pic…. something like that it would just be straight edged.. I dunno.. to me it looks knife shaped at the “bottom” it absolutely bugs me!!!
      *cross eyed emote required here*

      • Janna
        04/28/2013 at 10:05 pm

        Syntara, I agree about the duct tape mystery.
        From what I’ve seen and read, it was never analyzed for prints, DNA, etc.

  27. 04/28/2013 at 9:22 pm

    anyone re watching the interrogation vids… video 2 is crucial…. video 5 has the “still beat ya” comment to the empty room on it… video 8 she comes closest to admitting why she did it and it’s with the female detective.

    Just things to look out for in particular.

    by the way anyone know that female detectives name?

  28. Janna
    04/28/2013 at 9:30 pm

    For all of you who’ve been commenting on the Blink On Crime article ;;;

    I happened upon this article on April 23 and found it to be BOLD, STUNNING, and COMPELLING. I don’t know anything about the female crime analyst who authored it.

    The essence of the Blink on Crime article makes these elements of the crime very plausible:

    – the pic of Arias in braids and the other sexual pics displayed as evidence are from a different day altogether and did NOT occur on June 4

    – Arias and Travis did NOT have sex on June 4

    – Arias may have taken a picture of a picture of a picture

    – Arias sent Travis a memory card and after he uploaded it on his computer the ranting phone call on May 10 took place

    – Arias was extorting Travis and he called her out

    – Arias repeatedly used duplicate memory cards to extort & threaten Travis by saying she had more copies

    – Arias was NOT an invited guest on June 4 and committed some form of stalking act, break in, or breach of some kind to gain secret entrance and whatever evil deed she was up to resulted in the crime that killed him

    – Travis did NOT realize Arias was in the house, explaining why some shower pics seem very natural, then suddenly we see the fear in his eyes

    I was especially bothered that key persons involved with the investigation and State witnesses were cast in a negative light.

    • 04/28/2013 at 9:34 pm

      see some of those things make sense and can be backed up to reasonable deduction but others are pure imagination. That’s what I mean.. it’s all over the place.

    • 04/29/2013 at 4:19 am

      Just some rambling thoughts and questions-

      As far as the sex pictures on the camera from June 4th I can’t help but wonder if she changed the clock time on the camera during certain photos or if the time was just wrong. My camera sometimes has the right date but wrong time so i have to change it to the correct time.

      Does anyone else think she might have changed the time? Or that the pics are from another day? Or possibly a picture of another picture as stated above? Is there a way an expert is able to tell? I agree with the person above who said that the lighting and pictures were awful for someone who claims to be a photographer. There’s no rhyme or reason for some of the poses. Like she’s dictating to him how to stand. I mean a pic of only the square of his bare back? Wth was she planning on taking a before and after pic of his back with and without the stab wounds? The others look like he’s ready to be frisked by the police. What’s with the one of him sitting down showing only his neck down? How is that an artistic photo? What are those darkened areas under his back and butt? Are they shadows? My husband thinks it looks like blood.

      Also, i really don’t think Travis would have had sex with her that day after the May fight happened. He was so adamant about not wanting her around anymore. If TA was expecting her and they spoke on her way there, then why is there an 18 yr gap of no phone?

      One of the roommates said he came home for an hour during the day of the 4th…did he see the rental car in the driveway? Does anyone know if that was questioned?

      What do you guys think of Travis’s facial expression during that close-up photo? To me he seems nervous or scared..idk…could she have been pointing the gun at him at that point threatening him?

      One last question (this might be a stupid question sorry) but is there a way to fingerprint the shell casing?

  29. ringadingding
    04/28/2013 at 9:41 pm

    Someone has been asking for the link to the interrogation video in which Flores suggests the gun first, then knife as the scenario to Jodi (at least, that’s the order in which he references the different methods of assault/murder). It’s the It’s just after the 2:50 mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn6mWpXa5zs

    • 04/28/2013 at 10:28 pm

      thanks… I knew there were at least two references to it.. but I didn’t have the vids to point them to.. so great you posted this for us.. thanks and welcome! 😀

      • ringadingding
        04/28/2013 at 10:29 pm

        Thank YOU!

  30. ringadingding
    04/28/2013 at 10:00 pm

    Also, in case someone hasn’t already posted a link to that interrogation video, if you go to the 6:00 mark (or a bit after), Jodi starts to talk more about how she would have killed him if she had been capable of it and again Flores put forward the idea that she shot him, he struggled/fought back and she stabbed him.

    btw…sorry to barge in. I’m a recent lurker and I just love this site. The trial has been making me nuts.

    • Janna
      04/28/2013 at 10:16 pm

      This very special link helps me find peace of mind and brings me back to the heart & soul of this batshit crazy trial.

      https://www.facebook.com/SupportTravisAlexandarsFamily

      • ringadingding
        04/28/2013 at 10:28 pm

        Thank you so much for this, Janna. It’s been eating away at me…what she did to him. And I’m not just talking about the way she butchered him physically (which I still cannot fathom), but the way she tried to drain him of his soul. I think Nurmi’s slow and creepy questioning of Deanna made this crystal clear. In pointing out the differences in their relationships, he was showing the kind of slimy trail JA leaves behind.

    • 04/29/2013 at 4:28 am

      I remeber that part…i was like what the hell is wrong with this pyscho with her random tidbit of stupid comments such as; “I would have used gloves i have plenty of them at home” Ummm really? Who gives a f$#! what you have at home…you killed someone and you keep rambling on and on about ridiculous nonsense information! Her 5 hour answers make me nuts! Her and Alyce are a match made in fairytale heaven. Ohhh, here comes my high blood pressure lol.

  31. 04/28/2013 at 10:21 pm

    Does anyone mind if I brag a bit? Friday was a very neat day for me, as I was given a “Courage Award” for my accomplishments in helping DV victims and changing the law in CA. Here’s a link: http://www.10news.com/news/abuse-victim-honored-for-courage-for-sparking-change-in-california-spousal-support-law

    • Chrissie A
      04/28/2013 at 11:23 pm

      So proud of you Crystal!!! Thanks for all you do ~hugs~

    • Moon
      04/28/2013 at 11:24 pm

      I so admire your courage for following through and doing all you do. Why is it that you even had to fight that? I cannot believe our “justice” system would enforce that bs “law”. More corruption and greed.

      Thank you and God Bless You as you continue your journey applause applause ..

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:07 am

        Thank you all very much!
        In answer to your question, Moon, the reason I was ordered to pay was that before I changed the law, a judge had discretion to make these payments whatever he wanted them to be, or could eliminate them if there was DV. However, I had a judge who, even though he agreed I was raped, decided it was “only one factor” amongst many in deciding what these payments should be. I was horrified. My marriage was blown up because of the actions of this man, and now I have to pay him in order to escape the violence, and pay to support him going forward. The judge said it would be a bigger abuse of discretion NOT to give my husband the $$ given the difference in our incomes. Well…you can imagine why this story became national and UK news. Rape victim pays her own rapist! Yah right! I could not let that happen to anyone else.

    • Jim
      04/28/2013 at 11:30 pm

      My goodness – what you endured… Injury, followed by insult in its most severe form. Your strength rivals anything else I could try to compare it to… Thank you for publicly choosing to make a difference in the lives of others, Crystal. Blow that horn L O U D – you are making a difference!

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 3:37 am

        So glad that you posted this! I’m confused. When you got this law changed so that moving forward no neanderthal judge can arbitrarily make a rape victim pay their own rapist did that cancel that stupid judge’s order requiring you to pay your ex once he completes his 6 yr prison term? I surely hope so. Oh, I’m in the middle of Barbara Bentley’s book and it’s a good book, as you had said.

      • 04/29/2013 at 5:42 pm

        Nancy, the law is only changed going forward. So the order the judge made that I pay my ex’s legal fees and 1/2 my retirement stands. But I will NOT have to pay him spousal support after he gets out of prison.

    • Family of Law
      04/28/2013 at 11:56 pm

      You’ve earned the right to! Congratulations Crystal, you are a such a strong, brave woman, and you will no doubt continue to be a helpful force- Thank you!

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:10 am

        Thank you so much. I heard Jodi is going to be doing something very special to help DV victims, so perhaps we’ll be working on some projects together very soon….when hell freezes! 🙂

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 12:20 am

        Lol! She’s so caring and selfless! (Maybe her Mamma will give you a supply of their special ribbons?)

    • 04/29/2013 at 12:17 am

      Congratulations Crystal for what you had done. You are are very strong woman and a true voice for those that are really abused. You made a difference – i applaud you.

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 1:07 am

      It’s nice to put a face to a name. You re very beautiful! So proud of you. You’ve been thru hell, but you are a strong woman and will survive! Sorry for all the pain you have been thru. you r amazing in your quest to help others. Congrats!

    • 04/29/2013 at 5:56 am

      Hey brag away girl, what a champion to that ridiculous situation. Nice pic too 🙂

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 8:58 am

      Crystal I am sooooooooooooo proud of you and that you are getting the recognition that you truly deserve. I suffered though some of the same things but was advised NOT to try and charge. Thankfully you have done so much for so many with your courage and tenacity!!! Please give yourself a big pat on the back for not only helping yourself, your son but so many DV victims. Cute picture too 😀

      I can’t wait to watch your Dateline program which I think you said had been moved to May?????

      I’m thrilled with all the accolades that you are receiving and it is well deserved. Now with Dateline you have a national platform. Kudos to you – I know it couldn’t have been easy but you persevered. I wish there were people like you! {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}} darlin’

      • 04/29/2013 at 5:44 pm

        Thank you so much! 🙂
        My mom calls me “Darlin'” 🙂

    • kristin
      04/29/2013 at 6:40 pm

      Goodness! Congratulations! As cliché as it sounds, but people like you really make this world a better place. You turned a horrible negative into a positive that shines bright and strong. Truly you are an inspirational woman!

  32. 04/28/2013 at 10:36 pm

    Crystal Harris :
    Does anyone mind if I brag a bit? Friday was a very neat day for me, as I was given a “Courage Award” for my accomplishments in helping DV victims and changing the law in CA. Here’s a link: http://www.10news.com/news/abuse-victim-honored-for-courage-for-sparking-change-in-california-spousal-support-law

    Congratulations Crystal!!! This is wonderful!!!

  33. Janna
    04/28/2013 at 10:41 pm

    Ringadingdiing – Read this article about Arias and Anti-Social Personality Disorder.

    It provides a very solid framework for those of us who are struggling to understand the Arias monster and Black Widow. I’ve enjoyed reading the opinions of Dr. Randle.

    http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-does-jodi-arias-have-borderline-personality-disorder/#comments

    • ringadingding
      04/28/2013 at 11:11 pm

      Wow. Thank you, Janna. I wonder if Dr. DeMarte couldn’t diagnose antisocial personality disorder because she could not comment on or consider the criminal aspect of Jodi’s actions (such as the ability to sustain a rage for a week while she planned the murder–that’s a pretty significant distinction that Dr. Randle shows is not BPD—along with all the lying that covers up her planning)? I may be muddling things up and/or misunderstanding what an expert like Dr. D can testify to, but I was under the impression that Samuels couldn’t testify (thankfully) to a relationship between PTSD and lack of pre-meditation because it crossed a line of some sort.

      Also, I thought that study about how age and experience creates more disagreement on diagnoses was really interesting. Even so, I loved Dr. D’s no-nonsense approach to setting things straight with her Spock-like “That would be illogical” and “I would say that you are not being accurate” statements. So refreshing to hear someone make sense. I was banging my head on the desk after listening to Samuels and LV blather on and on. LV has absolutely no self-awareness. When a member of the jury asked her about always looking to her left, she said she only did it a few times, to acknowledge friends or JA. She looked to her left after nearly every friggin question by JM! Clueless as to her own behavior and bias. So sad and frustrating how she set real DV advocacy back.

      • 04/28/2013 at 11:21 pm

        I’ve posted on exactly this before.

      • 04/28/2013 at 11:22 pm

        oops that should be a reply to Janna not ringadingding

      • Janna
        04/28/2013 at 11:36 pm

        Ring-a-ding, Dr. DeMarte was a breath of fresh air. Her no nonsense approach made me smile with delight. We, as trial watchers, have a great gaping need for expert witnesses of this caliber – imo.

  34. 04/28/2013 at 10:52 pm

    Another thing that bothers me – she really wanted those journals found. What if she did rewrote all of hers once she got back to Mesa. This plan of hers was already in place. From what i have seen of the journals the handwriting is the same all the way through. When writing in a journal or a diary handwriting never looks fluid as opposed to writing a letter which is always fluid because it is done all at once. What do you think?

    • 04/28/2013 at 11:25 pm

      CI she didn’t need to rewrite them.. as I have explained before.. she writes the diary as her persona. ie her projected image. Not as we, a normally emotionally structured person would write a diary. It’s a very important distinction.

    • Moon
      04/28/2013 at 11:50 pm

      I have always thought she rewrote some or all of the journals. she had from whenever she started planning this … may 26??? to july 15 when she was arrested. Makes you wonder

      also, i could have sworn the ho testilied at one point that the ‘helio’ was the only one that could record convos…. however, during jury ?ing she said that the phone she lost could record too. supposedly the aunt found it… but, what happened to any evidence on this? was this addressed and i was zoned out ?? hmmm where’s the phone that was in gramp’s truck that auntie tweedle dee found?

      that person that has the blinkoncrime is also says there is a pic from the office that looks like a cable has blood on it but says it was never checked…… is this true? i guess i need to relook at pics again.. hmmmmm

      • kCruz123
        04/29/2013 at 10:01 pm

        MMD,
        The Helio phone WAS the phone that she reported as ‘list’ and it was later (2 years later/ approximate 2010) found by her aunt in the truck.
        I think that maybe she got a 2nd Helio phone as a replacement.
        So when she said that she was so worried because the lost phone contained several naughty pics and 1 or 2 naughty phone conversations, she was alluding to THE phone sex recording and the Helio given to her by Gus.
        Why she HID it in the truck? What purpose did that serve? Just one more thing she understands and we don’t/won’t. But I do think she hid it in the truck (opposed to just misplacing it) and I think that because she has that M.O. of successfully hiding things in cars (as in: the 9mm so well hidden in the rental car that she was planning to escape in, just prior to her arrest. – that it wasn’t found until months later).

      • kCruz123
        04/29/2013 at 10:04 pm

        Oops. That should have been in reply to Moon. 🙂

    • 04/29/2013 at 11:39 pm

      I always felt she re-wrote them too. I thought of the same thing about the handwriting. For those with journals check yours. Some days my hand gets sore easier, another day i might not feel good, i also write differently depending on the pen. Gel pens write smoother…there’s many reasons the handwriting may be diff. Jodi’s is a carbon copy. In her journals she wrote about being so upset about TA death and who could have done it etc…SHE volunteered those journals. She wanted them read. She thought if they saw her entries about being upset about the murder,she would look innocent. She’s a sick minded person. Only people with psychotic sociopath narcissistic insane minds are capable of these sneaky little tricks.

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:40 pm

        Oops too! Mine is a moon reply as well. Sorry 😦

  35. Moon
    04/28/2013 at 11:11 pm

    Somewhere… I remember reading or seeing a petition to “keep Beth Karas”. Well I’ll be gobsmacked… Beth announced on Trish’s radio show that this is her last trial coverage for HLN…………….My gosh, seems to me that she is the only one we never see or hear bad reviews of!
    This world is so corrupt……. in so many ways….
    Actually, this can be a Blessing for Beth! You go woman! I wish you luck and happiness in your future! Let us know where you are..

  36. donchais
    04/28/2013 at 11:12 pm

    You guys are old enough to police yourselves…if I have to step in…it will be with iron first…don’t force it…it won’t be pretty…nuff said.

  37. 04/28/2013 at 11:19 pm

    huh?

    • Marilyn N
      04/28/2013 at 11:30 pm

      Syn: just posted the female detective on your #97

      • 04/28/2013 at 11:33 pm

        yea I saw that.. I’m kind of in shock never expected her to be retired.. it’s amazing what fate deals out.

  38. 04/28/2013 at 11:29 pm

    BPD is a diagnosis that is fairly recent in the DSM. It is still contentious for many reasons.. my previous posts explain this.

    ASPD better defines Jodistein but even it gives an incomplete diagnosis. The true diagnosis, although as yet not defined in the DSM is ASPD+P.

    P standing for psychopath. If you wish to source my old posts on this I explain the reasons for this and how Jodi’s behaviourisms fall into this criteria. If you ask specific questions I will answer them.

    • ringadingding
      04/28/2013 at 11:42 pm

      Thank you. I read a post of yours that compared JA and Hannibal Lector. It got me thinking of a movie character that she reminds me of to a degree, and that’s Delores Claiborne in Misery, how she had this very calm demeanor and was edifying her man with that budgeon or whatever it was she used to hobble the James Caan character, Paul. I’m not saying she’s the same personality type, but there’s something about the cool, measured way JA related her killing and corrected JM on the details that reminded me of Delores. It’s a smug kind of scolding quality. Very much in control.

      • Moon
        04/28/2013 at 11:57 pm

        hi ringading welcome!
        i bet that movie and SK are on the ho’s list of favs! also that one she did where the eclipse was envolved (based on another SK book)

      • Moon
        04/29/2013 at 12:51 am

        Delores Clayborne…

      • Moon
        04/29/2013 at 1:02 am

        oh duh ss you already mentioned Delores!

    • Janna
      04/28/2013 at 11:42 pm

      Syn ~ I’ll try to locate your old posts on this topic, but keep in mind that I’m very much a rookie at blogging.

      Is it possible JA could be both BPD + ASPD ???

      • 04/28/2013 at 11:47 pm

        no.. there is overlap however…. but the main thing that makes Jodistein ASPD over BPD is BPD is emotional turmoil. Jodi does not have emotional turmoil jodi has very little emotional at all.

        The reason Dr DeMarte went BPD is because she is newly graduated and it’s the ‘in’ diagnosis.. and also Dr D did not have the full picture either. I believe with the full picture and discussions with more ‘experienced’ peers she will come to realise Jodistein is ASPD.

        She is very smart and very capable but there is nothing that compares to experience especially in the field of human sciences.

  39. Moon
    04/28/2013 at 11:53 pm

    Janna :Ring-a-ding, Dr. DeMarte was a breath of fresh air. Her no nonsense approach made me smile with delight. We, as trial watchers, have a great gaping need for expert witnesses of this caliber – imo.

    personally, i would have like to see syn up there!!! I did enjoy Dr D… but syn has this ho pegged!

    • 04/28/2013 at 11:59 pm

      haha plus I would have been snarkier with JW.. her cross was ridiculous! could have expected a whole lot of those Witness answers in that post yesterday! Esp when she asked her did she question Travis… but there were so many questions that shows how little Perky knew about the subject she was crossing on. It was truly stupefying.

      I wondered how Dr Janeen managed to keep a straight face… she rolled her eyes to the jury once… I think I would have done it about 200 times!

      • Moon
        04/29/2013 at 12:08 am

        that was a hilite of this …. that tone of whinys brings me to the brink! will never forget how Dr D tells her she doesn’t use one of the charts and willnot says let’s look at it anyway! I loved how Dr D got in that whiny was misusing the info!. She seemed so much more at ease when she was just able to explain her answers during jury ?s.

      • ringadingding
        04/29/2013 at 9:05 am

        A little snark would have made that whole exchange a lot less painful to watch. Is the DT really that clueless as to how they come across? I would have loved to see a prosecution psychologist send JW into a time out.

    • Janna
      04/29/2013 at 12:08 am

      Moon & Syn ~

      As you can guess, I’m completely new to this blog so I have no knowledge about either of you. In my own simple words and naive understanding, Jodi Arias is a poisonous, dark, and dangerous soul. Everything about her is fake (emotions, stories, journals, etc). The only part of JA that’s real is her psychopathy.

      • Moon
        04/29/2013 at 12:24 am

        hiiii janna…

        i’m just an old rocky mountain high gal … syn is a behavioural scientist….i just shake my head with disbelief
        And touche’ to your comments re hodi…i agree and pray that she is taken down as the beast she is.

  40. 04/29/2013 at 12:10 am

    Hey all. Watched the Gus Searcy testimony today. Only the cross by Obi Juan Kenobi. Jesus. She sold her big fat poon to anyone making 6 figures. Now listening to day 22 of testimony; Juans cross, “I cared about his eternal salvation…” Ahhhhhhh

    Yes, the Searcy connection shed alot of light

    • Moon
      04/29/2013 at 12:32 am

      lol to you “big fat poon” eeeeks

      you know this is one area too that I am surprised wasn’t delved in to further. As far as I am concerned, if searcy’s testiphony is correct, he says the ho phoned him at 330 am jun5and told him that TA was DEAD.. also she stopped and saw old gus on the WAY to TAs. Gus kept his mouth shut and told NO ONE that the ho phoned him around 330 am. the Ho even says on the stand (day 22) that she phoned gus after the murder. so why are they not pursuing accessory to the crime? i know they said he was just “star searching” for his 15 min of fame but come on! if indeed ho did phone him why did HE ignore it for days.
      She not only showed premed she has proven consciseness of guilt, no remorse.. pure evil…

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 12:38 am

      Bubble- LOVE the “Obi Juan Kenobi”- have I missed this nickname being used before? Hysterical- and big fat poon! Lol!!! Searcy got played by her, and in turn sought his allotted 15 mins of fame, he’s so groooooosssssss!

  41. 04/29/2013 at 12:19 am

    I wish Juan had said, “Are you on drugs ma’am?”

  42. 04/29/2013 at 12:22 am

    Janna :
    Moon & Syn ~
    As you can guess, I’m completely new to this blog so I have no knowledge about either of you. In my own simple words and naive understanding, Jodi Arias is a poisonous, dark, and dangerous soul. Everything about her is fake (emotions, stories, journals, etc). The only part of JA that’s real is her psychopathy.

    Janna :
    Moon & Syn ~
    As you can guess, I’m completely new to this blog so I have no knowledge about either of you. In my own simple words and naive understanding, Jodi Arias is a poisonous, dark, and dangerous soul. Everything about her is fake (emotions, stories, journals, etc). The only part of JA that’s real is her psychopathy.

    Janna.. basically think of it this way.. Jodi is an empty shell who has no affect, (emotional expression) she has to learn how to react by copying others. Which is why she always seems to act the wrong way in a given situation if you watch her in court all her emotional responses to cues are just wrong, totally inapporpriate, lacking or simply not there.

  43. Allison
    04/29/2013 at 12:23 am

    Robare :
    Allison – Look around the 3 minute mark on this video. http://youtu.be/-tqXr2YNShg

    Thanks so much. I appreciate you finding this for me. 🙂

  44. 04/29/2013 at 12:24 am

    Gah!!!! 😳 I just posted this and it went into mod cos I accidentally somehow had the quote on it twice! darnit!

    Janna :

    Moon & Syn ~
    As you can guess, I’m completely new to this blog so I have no knowledge about either of you. In my own simple words and naive understanding, Jodi Arias is a poisonous, dark, and dangerous soul. Everything about her is fake (emotions, stories, journals, etc). The only part of JA that’s real is her psychopathy.

    Janna.. basically think of it this way.. Jodi is an empty shell who has no affect, (emotional expression) she has to learn how to react by copying others. Which is why she always seems to act the wrong way in a given situation if you watch her in court all her emotional responses to cues are just wrong, totally inapporpriate, lacking or simply not there.

    • Janna
      04/29/2013 at 12:34 am

      Thank you Syn. I’m a gal from the Heartland who fell upon the JA Trial one day in February while I was channel surfing. I haven’t taken my eyes off the trial since that winter afternoon.

      Appreciate your “empty shell” explanation. The girl is coo-coo for cocoa puffs.

    • ringadingding
      04/29/2013 at 9:13 am

      Syn, I can totally see how JA is just as you described–an empty shell. I’m wondering what is it about someone like her that makes others do her bidding without even being aware of it? I’m thinking of the way that Samuels and ALV testified about things as though they really happened and not as though they were things JA told them had happened. It wasn’t dispassionate testimony, but something they seemed to have lived or witnessed. It was as though they were shells for Jodi to fill with whatever she chose. And maybe I’m just losing it, but it also seems as though the DT is morphing into JAs with the way they go after Travis and prosecution witnesses, just trying to make any kind of mark or slash with their insane line of questioning. I’m totally creeped out by this whole scene, but can’t seem to stop watching and trying to figure it out.

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:30 am

        Ringading.. it is her manipulation.

        Her cunning and ability to read how to manipulatie people is stunning. It’s a natural ‘talent’ for this kind of disordered type. Most cluster B personality disorders have this trait. It’s an uncanny ability to appear intelligent but actually just be innately extraordinarily conniving

        ASPD+P in particular hone it. They HAVE to hide their true nature, if outed they know they will be totally isolated so they have even more motivation to sharpen that skill.

        Look how everyone who sees her as she is can’t even stand to think about her let alone entertaining the thought of becoming her friend.

        Someone suggested she would discard her attorneys as soon as she loses.. no that’s not the case.. she will start to devalue them as soon as they start to wake up to what she is.

        As long as JW is still doing the BFF thing with Jodistein, and as long as LaLa remains sympathetic to her, as long as Brewer doesn’t see her for what she really did to him she will continue to use them and anyone else who falls for her act, any way she can.

        Cross her or question her however, and you start to see her true nature. Once you start to see it.. the mask begins to fall and it is sooooo obvious. If you met her and did not know all these lies were lies.. it would take a while to figure her out.

        Luckily she isn’t very smart.. so to figure her out only took Travis 5 months.. really intelligent people who have this ability can hide behind it for years, even indefinitely.

  45. Family of Law
    04/29/2013 at 12:32 am

    Does anybody know an update on Dr. DeMarte’s stolen laptop?

    • 04/29/2013 at 12:37 am

      No that really intrigues me FOL. It HAS to be trial associated it’s just so unlikely it isn’t don’t you think?

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 12:42 am

        It’s been bugging the shit out me since I 1st heard about it Really? We are supposed to all think its just ANOTHER COINCIDENCE? Like a .25 auto being stolen from her G&G’s? Nah! My 1st thought was Donno- but earlier (above) when you mentioned MM- it got me back to thinking about the laptop, do ya think it’s him?

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:49 am

        FOL was the timing January/February some time? I’m not sure now I saw a brief reference to it… maybe with a better idea of time….?

        I dunno.. I just dont know… whatever happened with it if it got to the defense in some way they sure didn’t use it to their advantage because Perky had zero idea of the subject.

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 1:09 am

        Here’s the best link I’ve found (Feb 8). There’s very little other info that I’ve seen- seems to be a non issue. http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/21010530/2013/02/06/expert-witness-in-arias-trial-has-home-burglarized

  46. Allison
    04/29/2013 at 12:38 am

    Janna :
    All Travis Alexander supporters, check out this site. I just found it today!
    http://jodiariasguilty.com/purpose-of-this-jodi-arias-guilty-page-please-read/

    Wow – all I can say is – Wow

  47. 04/29/2013 at 12:41 am

    What gets me is that Holo gives it up for cash. Then searcy had his house foreclosed on, because Jodi stopped paying her share and giving up the roast beef curtains. Funny that she and Searcy had anal. This what I’m listening to is priceless, Day 22, Lohr. She talks back, and Juan destroys her.Totally. Happy days are coming folks. And why is it we are so consumed with this case? I’d like to know. One or two sentences…

    • Moon
      04/29/2013 at 12:48 am

      nah… she had the house with daryl brewer. shady ol gus had a trailer in vegas that she stayed at …..

    • 04/29/2013 at 12:51 am

      LOLOL searcy had anal with Jodistein LOLOLOL omg now there’s a thought I don’t wanna have!!!

      Bubble think you are confusing brewer with jodistein but that was HIIIIlarious

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:53 am

        I am fascinated with this case because we don’t ever think someone can lie like Jodistein can. Plus by Aussie standards this crime is unthinkable.

      • Marilyn N
        04/29/2013 at 1:32 am

        I am literally cracking up here, at the thought of Searcy/Jodistein Anal(izing) …….hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:34 am

        yea yea yea I knowwwwwwwww I was sure Gus kept reiterating how they were just friends.. platonic.. I sure don’t remember anal.. and if they had anal OMFG no no no no I can feel a Chrissie pic for that one!

      • 04/29/2013 at 6:03 am

        Mmm and I’m again thinking Last Tango in Paris since naughty Tracey sent me in that direction yesterday with “butter wouldn’t melt …” – Marlon Searcy ??

      • 04/29/2013 at 6:20 am

        ROFL.. omfg don’t go there.. and Tracey did NOT send you there… I gotta stick of for Trace there.. that was ALL you!!!

    • 04/29/2013 at 2:38 am

      I am fascinated cuz I need to know that she can’t get away with this. Her evil can’t stand. Her defense is laughable and defies credulity, so I need to know there are people who will stop her.

      • ringadingding
        04/29/2013 at 9:18 am

        Bingo, Crystal.

  48. Moon
    04/29/2013 at 12:45 am

    can you imagine how violated she felt about that. i sure hope she has installed monitor equip/security system.
    the ho seems to have put her spell on several willing to do anything for her/evil.

  49. Allison
    04/29/2013 at 12:54 am

    ringadingding :
    Someone has been asking for the link to the interrogation video in which Flores suggests the gun first, then knife as the scenario to Jodi (at least, that’s the order in which he references the different methods of assault/murder). It’s the It’s just after the 2:50 mark:

    Thanks so much 🙂

  50. Moon
    04/29/2013 at 12:57 am

    Syntara :FOL was the timing January/February some time? I’m not sure now I saw a brief reference to it… maybe with a better idea of time….?
    I dunno.. I just dont know… whatever happened with it if it got to the defense in some way they sure didn’t use it to their advantage because Perky had zero idea of the subject.

    feb 6… the day laptop reported stolen…. so after the trial started. some on the site i just googled about it claim it’s either donoman or the new beau bryan carr since he has a rapsheet for burglary.

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:02 am

      yeah but then someone would have put Jodistein up to the idea..IF it came from her… I dunno… only thing I can think of is Nurmi mentioned to Jodistein it would be good to have.. and Donoman got her hands on it for them… but then I dunno.. doesn’t sit right with me for some reason..

      Plus the only reason to steal i would be to get it to the defense.. and what did they do with it? seemingly nothing… they were way under prepared not over prepared.

      I don’t get it. unless it got stolen.. the defense wanted no part of it cos they found some scruples.. so whoever got it just sat on it.

      • Moon
        04/29/2013 at 1:09 am

        well now you have me wondering about yet another thing! lol no wonder i dream of this ev nite! i would say the duhfense wouldn’t DARE bring up anything found on it because they would be busted… wonder if this is how the were able to weave latoilettes saviour in to this nightmare????

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:14 am

        the thing that Im intrigued about equal or more so than this is that doodle of the battered snow white jodistein sold on ebay for $800.. to me that proves LaLa told Jodistein about her snow white theory.. why on earth an assessor would do such a thing is beyond me! That wreaks of crossing the line.. so did LaLa say something about demarte to Jodi… LaLa who lives in lala land would be capable of unknowingly saying something untoward to Jodistein she was obviously completely enthralled by her

    • Janna
      04/29/2013 at 1:07 am

      At first, I thought DeMarte’s laptop could have been stolen by MM because he seems devious enough to go down this road.

      I too think it’s more likely a crime by someone associated with one or more of the Arias jailbirds.

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 1:19 am

      Hey Moon- I’m trying to find out if Bryan Carr was questioned by the police? Have you seen anything?

      • Moon
        04/29/2013 at 1:37 am

        hi fol… no sorry i haven’t just saw that a blogger suggested him due to his prior rapsheet….

  51. 04/29/2013 at 12:59 am

    One glaring difference in Juans cross of their psychologist (and I use the term loosely) Dr Dodgy…. and Wilmas cross of DeMarte… not once did wilma as if DeMarte recorded her sessions… but Juan asked in great detail not only did Dodgy do it.. but extensively why not.

    Sooo.. conclusion.. no way did Wilma want to mention it cos no way did they want it played in court! We all know how every time Jodistein opens her mouth she says something that helps the prosecution.

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 3:54 am

      totally agree

  52. 04/29/2013 at 1:01 am

    and my own personal confession: I’m a hetero guy, maybe tried anal a few times with one partner. I dunno, it does nothing for me. I only did it to please. It’s not on my menu of sexual delecasies. “You’re making my brain scramble…” I’ve never heard of a woman who was so willing to give her ass for the cause…even Porn actors wish they could take it back…instead of the backside…but it’s a fantasy, for some. Jodi gave it up because she thought thats what she had to do to suck the teet of a rich guy. Jodi was a girl completely sexualized; that’s all she had; she was a big dummy who couldn’t complete high school, and who bounced around from men and low fast food restuarant jobs, until she found another man to bankroll her. All she had to do was get a $300 boob job, dye her hair blond and give up her ass, and her future would take care of itself…

    • Moon
      04/29/2013 at 1:06 am

      well i guess i just will continue to believe that travis didn’t do that. i think he said that in the sex tape cuz he knew she liked hearing crap like that. maybe i’m wrong and he really did participate in the anal but i sure hope i am right about that!

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:21 am

        yep I think it was phone sex fantasy…. and I want to believe that.. but also I know how she operates and it fits. But then he did call her a 3 hole wonder.. and she would have offered it up big time….. it was her way to control men…

        act like a whore encourage them to call her a slut… she lived to the adage… men want a whore in bed and a lady in public.. well she couldn’t quite pull the latter off.. but by golly gee gosh she had the former down pat!

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:16 am

      totally agree… she is a sexual and emotional predator.

    • kristin
      04/29/2013 at 6:49 pm

      Is her history of having anal sex w every guy indicative of the empty shell syn was talking about? I mean that she copies peoples emotions because she lacks her own. Did she push the butt sex because she thought that that is what every guy wanted?

      • 04/30/2013 at 1:17 am

        I think she had anal with guys cuz it set her apart. Normal girls don’t do that until maybe waaayyy into a committed relationship. Jodi saw that this was something she did that was exciting to guys…but only for so long. It’s not like you can build an entire relationship on that.

  53. 04/29/2013 at 1:06 am

    @Syn, you encouraged me to watch the searcy testimony. Yes, he admitted to anal with Jodatron.

    • Janna
      04/29/2013 at 1:11 am

      I don’t want to burst your Bubble – but – it wasn’t Searcy who testified about anal with Hodie. It was DB.

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:16 am

      no no nooooo he doesnt?????? oh plse god no he doesnt!!!!!

    • Marilyn N
      04/29/2013 at 1:28 am

      Bubble – this is Gus Searcy –

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:45 am

        lol yeah that’s him.. omg… seriously thats even worse than having anal with Dr Dodgy… well I dunno… yeah I think it might be!!! LMAO

  54. Janna
    04/29/2013 at 1:14 am

    MUST MUST MUST go read newest and latest Tweet by Hodiestein. She claims someone actually purchased a pair of her underwear.

    I’m NOT joking!

    Euwwwwww

    • kristin
      04/29/2013 at 6:51 pm

      Yack! Was she bragging?? Hell, I would buy her underwear for an eternity to keep from seeing that truly heinous clam of hers ever again.

  55. 04/29/2013 at 1:17 am

    Sorry people…I watched Searcy’s testimony today. Juan said that they had had anal a few times, Searcy said, “It may have been only once…”

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 1:24 am

      Is it the one where they don’t show the witness? That is Daryl brewer….

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:32 am

      what day.. I gotta see this I must have blocked it out!!!! 😯

  56. 04/29/2013 at 1:23 am

    The lesson I took from the Searcy exam is that Jodi banged him, he purchased a 300 thousnad dollar home for the two of them. She met another guy, told Searcy they would not have any more sex, she was saving it for her Husband, then she stopped paying her share of the bills…leading to the forclosure of the palm springs house, but by then she had found another sucker’s couck to crash on…

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 1:26 am

      You just have the names confused. The man she bought the house with is Daryl….

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:36 am

        yeah the guy she brought the house with is Daryl Brewer and HE is the one who says he had anal sex with Jodi.

        Bubble seriously you can’t give us PTSD by telling us she actually had anal with Gus Searcy.. I mean no just NO! 😯 But if you are right I HAVE to hear this testimony!!

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:41 am

      Bubble sweety.. does the guy you are talking about look Like Dr Dodgy’s twin brother?? If he does that is Gus Searcy.. if you don’t see that guys face at all … the that is Daryl Brewer. Daryl Brewer is the sucker who testified for Jodi.. he is the one she returned the remote control to, he is the one who gave her the gas cans.. he is the one she had a 300,000 house with.. an he is the one she conned into thinking she had turned a good mormon and started hunting Travis instead… then stopped paying her share of the bills and spending money crazy cos Jodi thought she was going to get rich from PPL….. and they lost the house.

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:45 am

        Syn baby, all what you just wrote is what I heard from Searcy’s testimony…I’m going back again. It’s not alot. About two hours…At least Juan’s cross; I have no patience for the Foad, Fat Toad Nurmi

  57. 04/29/2013 at 1:37 am

    Here is the deal, I will go back and watch the Searcy testimony again, I was told to watch his testimony. I did. Now everybody’s in a funk.

  58. 04/29/2013 at 1:41 am

    Not to mention sleepy drunk…wish someone would leave me a Cinnabon recipe on my car…after they beat me

    • Moon
      04/29/2013 at 1:44 am

      lololol

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:45 am

      LOLOL! bubble look at the vid Marilyn posted upstairs THAT’s Gus Searcy

      • Janna
        04/29/2013 at 1:55 am

        Is the video Marilyn posted one from Judge Judy, or the Jinkasaurus video?

      • Janna
        04/29/2013 at 2:00 am

        Sincere mea culpa Syn. I’m in a FOG.

        Just for giggles I’m including the partial vid of Gus on Judge Judy’s show.

        For real yes!

      • 04/29/2013 at 2:00 am

        Janna don’t confuse poor bubble even more! 😛

        Hey Bubble ….. I have to go out for a bit.. plse plse plse post when you get this sorted one way or the other.. I’m dying here laughing @ the thought of Gus testifying to having anal with Jodistein! 😆

  59. 04/29/2013 at 1:54 am

    Day 10. See Lohr

    • Moon
      04/29/2013 at 1:59 am

      nite nite bubble!! i’m sensing a pass-out any moment!

      • 04/29/2013 at 2:01 am

        LOLOL me toooo! Bubble again you gave me the best laugh! I’ll be checking day 10 when I get back! ***waves** 😀

  60. Moon
    04/29/2013 at 2:05 am

    i am lol so hard my sides hurt!!!!!!!!

    the thought just the thought ooo gawd please turn OFF that visual!!

  61. 04/29/2013 at 2:18 am

    2days one night, at his mobile home in LV.
    Pasadena-Lie-more than ten and before two
    gave her helio phone

    Pay attention peeps, Juan has already busted her for the gas can diet…look at, listen to day ten…important…not a long day, but a huge day of impeachment…Thanks to all who told me to look up Searcy’s testimony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. 04/29/2013 at 2:24 am

    A 300 dollar tit job, wow, it makes sense. 150 per tit, or was it 120, for one, and the balance was paid for…”I’m gonna work my ass off for my tits…”

    • GATEWAY
      04/29/2013 at 2:35 am

      Hey Bubble, I have always hoped on the day the verdict is read, the baliff gives Judge Stevens a rusty “Church Key” & she proceeds to extricate the implants & gives one each to Wurmi & the Perkster to use as paperweights as a fond farewell from their client from Hell. How fitting!!!!!!

  63. 04/29/2013 at 2:33 am

    Jodi took photos of Searcy sleeping, and him in the shower, and him shaving, he was “uncomfortable” and asked her to stop. Now he’s perjuring himself…

    • 04/29/2013 at 5:17 am

      I think both of them (Searcy and Brewer) perjured themselves for her. I was stunned at Brewer’s testimony. Searcy on the other hand was just slime personified.

      Anyhow.. I’m back and about to revisit day David Lohr 10 😀

      Let’s see what you were watching My little Bubblebutt!

  64. 04/29/2013 at 6:19 am

    ok David Lohr day 10 definitely starts with Gus Searcy and he is oh so proud of his friggin ring.. so right away we know he has a ring fetish.

    Bubble I’m dying here.. this direct marketing crap is making me 😈 think this requires an alcoholic beverage!

    22:16 in his rambling with the Nurm…..

    Nurm asks “…and your relationship with Miss Arias was it sexual or platonic.

    Searcy: Just platonic she had a boyfriend [Travis Alexander}

    Yah like that mattered.. even if she didn’t have one she’s going to invent one! Even she ain’t gonna go with him despite his friggin ring!

    [Then he goes into the bullshit shaking and crying from the phone call. She set that up IMO to get his sympathy.. probably MM on the damn phone! ok beside the point

    … back to video.

    Now Bubble… this is how i remember it.. where in the heck are you looking?

    Juan’s up… he really gets Searcy going calling PPL a pyramid or triangle scheme hahahaha loved that.

    I definitely believe PPL wiggled their way out of paying for Arias’ legal fees somehow. That company not the taxpayers who have been lumbered with it. Maybe that’s why they changed their name.. to somehow avoid it. Surely Jodistein had the cover for the product she was trying to sell.

    Note: Jodistein is not drawing here.. she is looking straight at Gus all through his testimony hand on her neck. She looks very arrogant but for some reason keeps her hand on her neck almost the whole time. Kinda weird.. does she know he likes this pose?

    Gus tries to do the prosecutors job and tell Juan what line of questioning he should be taking – Juan sorts him out on this 😆

    He visited her in Pasadena and she visited him in Las Vegas.

    Late morning he visited her in Pasadena said he had kids to pick up from school. His kids lived in Pasadena? I’m confused did his family live in Pasadena and this trailer where he met her alone? anyhow… Juan finishes… no mention of sex cos Juan is no sexual deviant!

    Bubble …. you are dreaming.

    OK…. The Nurm is up for his rebuttal.

    Nurms on the structure of PPL.. Jodi wasn’t under Gus he just wanted her attention and she wanted him to make her rich.. symbiotic leaches. disgusting!

    This guy apart from giving the insight of this shaking and crying phone call Jodi elicited his sympathy with.. is just a complete load of wank but shows the type of person who falls for her snake like charms.

    How does he remember what she was wearing? Obviously he was absolutely taken in by her.. what guy remembers what someone they met briefly 5 years ago was wearing? Seriously? Unless they are smitten?

    Bubble… bubble bubble.. you have confused Brewer with Searcy.. and I totally agree… Brewer perjured himself for her I thought that then and said it to whoever I was watching it with. I think it rewatching this.

    hahaha Brewer thinks she loved him.. mwhahahahah omg how stupid is he Jodi loves no-one but herself. She wants to control all men she comes into contact with.

    Anyhow… again Jodi is not taking her eyes of him and even wipes her eye… little Ms Manipulative. But I will bore you all no longer… cos this is Brewer.

    • 04/30/2013 at 1:28 am

      I heard Jodi did not have a PPL policy. Even if she did, there’s no PPL policy in existence comprehensive enough to cover the type of legal trouble Jodi is in. Those policies cover estate planning, misdemeanor crap, etc. Ifyou really need legal help, no legal insurance will cover.

  65. 04/29/2013 at 6:30 am

    One note…. he [Brewer] says Jodi and his son were “very close”. Yeah so close Jodi doesn’t seem to have given his son a seconds thought after meeting Travis.

    Good illustration of her pretending… ie fulfilling her projected person roll. No real feeling all image. If she really was ‘close’ to the son he would have featured way more in her diary entries post relationship. Brewer is so full of shit on the stand. I can’t believe he lies so much for her. Sorry had to post this… totally irks me listening to him lie here.

  66. 04/29/2013 at 6:41 am

    Just saw Jodi nod at Brewer for no reason in particular other than to acknowledge he is doing well… and then almost immediately glance to Juan and Flores.

  67. 04/29/2013 at 6:45 am

    He must be so in love with her even still to lie and not see he lost the house because of her and not bring himself to be able to see how her dropping him for Travis and backdooring him right under his roof ruined that part of his life..

    She stopped paying her side of the mortgage and started spending heaps of money thinking she was going to strike it rich on PPL.

    Sooooo stupid -. Jodistein the jenius! But wow does he forgive her for everything.. that shows how deep she had/has him hooked!

  68. 04/29/2013 at 7:01 am

    anyone have a pic of Matthew McCartney? Did Daryl know MM.. by one of his answers to Juan it seems like he does or did know him?

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 9:33 am

      Yes. Matt & JA worked together at Ventana in the same position, (remember they lived together in a tent for a short time) while Darryl was the head chef. I read in a few places that even though Darryl insisted on the stand during direct that he and Jodi were not sexually involved while he was still her boss; that that part of their relationship didn’t begin until he had stepped down from that position, that was total BS and that it was widely known that they were hooking up while he was still head chef. By the way, what man (or person for that matter) in his right mind steps down from such a position and takes a job that pays sooo much less??? Something doesn’t add up.

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:38 am

        I know.. I KNOW doesnt that also show how far under his spell he fell? I literally shake my head that he committed perjury for her after all she has done for him. I have no doubt he did. he said 3 times she asked for the gas cans for Mesa….. every time almost whispered because he didnt want to say it.. then after Nurmis sidebar.. which no doubt he talked loud enough an had already given the cue about not saying Mesa… Brewer changes to Arizona and denies the Mesa. Just stunning how much control even now, she has over him. He is STILL in love with her after a marriage, a son and a house foreclosure because of her.. not to mention her dumping him for Travis and making him look like a total lapdog to her.

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 9:54 am

      Pictures of Matt on Chris Stark’s Twitter but a few weeks back. They must be filed though in her favorites for more easily locating them.

  69. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/29/2013 at 7:34 am

    Well hello room! 1pm or so in Holland now, just finished my daily read of the comments. First of all–hearty congrats to CRYSTAL not only for her award but for her contributions to this site and our understanding of this importrant issue–domestic violence (the real kind, not the wobo kind). Also thank you to SYNTARA for doing the research to enlighten us on the image BUBBLEBUTTS gave us – of a Searcy-Pocawobo embrace which took awhile to erase from my brain! Of course, additional kudos to LAINE for her enlightened sense of
    motherhood and her willingness to share some of her journey with us. To RINGADING, just a small correction–the character in “Misery” is named “Annie Wilkes”; Dolores is another film. Thanks also to ROBARE for the quick link to det Flores saying ‘and I knew he was shot first” which clarified when wobo’s wheels started turning to ninjas.I thought the link MARILYN gave to the female Yreka detective was one of those odd, yet pertinent, bits of info. Some of what I commented on yesterday related to RENAE’s post about “death penalty” and LWOP and the costs – money, mental and time – of the decision. I still wonder if 20 years solitary and then execution is “cruel and unusual” punishment.Essem’s comment on “the needle” made me LOL. I’m still agnostic about the duct tape and still confused about the memory chip(s) of the camera. Finally, thansk for the link to the ‘neurocriminoly’ site. Now we know the answer to the oft asked question, “Does Size Matter?” And the answer–if you want to avoid the crazies is, YES–if we’re talking about the amygdyla!

    • 04/29/2013 at 7:59 am

      Robert you still around or have you absconded?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/29/2013 at 8:12 am

        just bounced back, you still here?

      • 04/29/2013 at 8:28 am

        Robert if you are interested in the amygdala research… there is an interesting book you should pick up. It’s not written by someone in academia because as yet it’s too early for a lot of what is being done to be presented in that format but

        Thomas Sheridan, an artist who has taken it upon himself to research this has written a couple books on the subject.

        He is very informed i’m not sure where he gets a lot of his information but he is on the money.

        Take a look at “Puzzling People: Labyrinth of the psychopath”

        I’d post a link but I think he is a little esoteric for this blog. You, however, might find a lot of what he says interesting The amygdala research is touched upon more towards the end of his book.

  70. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/29/2013 at 8:17 am

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2d8_1367104934

    for those interested in watching a police tape on protecting yourself from a knife attack. At 1.35 notice the “quickness” required.

    • 04/29/2013 at 8:40 am

      wow and thats with a policeman.. ie trained… AND standing..what hope did Travis have seated in the shower!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        04/29/2013 at 8:45 am

        exactly. wonder if wobo did some research before heading to Mesa on such tactics.

      • 04/29/2013 at 8:53 am

        Robert the exact same thought went through my head! She did say she had taken self defense classes.. remember?

  71. Robert in Rotterdam
    04/29/2013 at 8:37 am

    Syntara :
    Robert if you are interested in the amygdala research… there is an interesting book you should pick up.

    Just got it via Kindle…will report back when finished 🙂

    • 04/29/2013 at 8:57 am

      Robert let me clarify something with that book.. I should have said he is generally right on the money. He also made a number of follow up videos which are accessible on his playlist on youtube… it may be there he elaborates on the amygdala connection. I’m pretty sure though, that he does at least reference in that book. I hope I haven’t lead you down the garden path… it’s a very very long time since I read it but still, I recommend it.

      Because he is outside academia he has far more latitude.

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:01 am

        😳 there I go again.. a very very long time… ok in my research terms it is… but years wise not so long. It’s a relatively new book.

  72. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 9:10 am

    Morning all – it seems like everyone is on Syn’s hours now! 😉 No way can I keep the hours that so many of you here do 😦

    • 04/29/2013 at 9:15 am

      Hii MMD I was out my afternoon.. which is the quietest time on here anyhow… so I get a couple of shifts but miss the main time which is my early morning to dawn hours.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 9:23 am

        Hi darlin’ – I am so thrilled for Crystal!!! We’ll have to figure a way to make it available to you down under. I’m sure that Chrissie, aka the genius, will be able to figure something out! 😀

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 9:24 am

        Need more caffeine – I mean’t the Dateline show!!! duh

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:31 am

        haha drink up!!

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 9:36 am

        Ya know it would be really nice if you could get on the stand and educate that entire jury on JA and spell it out exactly as you have here so that there is no doubt in their mind who and what she is!!! We have all learned so much from you that I wish they could as well 😀

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:42 am

        maybe one day.. there are a lot in the same speciality as I am working towards that end MMD. 😀 it can be soooo frustrating but for me it’s truly fighting for the greater good and I relish it. An opportunity such as this comes along very very rarely for those in my field.

  73. 04/29/2013 at 9:34 am

    MMD did you see Bubble thought Jodistein had anal sex with Gus??? LOLOL Moon and I were in stitches over that!!! Can you imagine.. ok ok no don’t!!! It is just not to be imagined!! 😆

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 9:38 am

      I saw that and my GAWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, if my retinas hadn’t been permanently damaged by the previous photos, the thought of that would have done it for sure. Can you imagine!!!!!!!!!!! Gag me with a spoon!!!!! Yuck!!!! 😦 😦 I just can’t figure out why he lied for her?

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:43 am

        LOLOL actually no I can’t! Literally!! My brain gets to a certain point with the image and says.. no no enough.. no going there! 😆

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:46 am

        yea I know MMD.. that is the really crucial element in that. REALLY crucial.

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:47 am

        NancyB also recognises it.

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 9:41 am

      I’m surprised that u spent a lot of time on that. We all knew that wasn’t true and bubble was confused

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:44 am

        my wicked sense of humour forced me too 😛

      • Jill
        04/29/2013 at 9:45 am

        Lol

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 9:46 am

        I knew as soon as I read it that bubble was confused but then I got the visual of JA’s crotch shots and my brain then went to Gussyboy, and the visual was just too much. Shank and slime together 😆 Now that the visual has disappeared I think it’s hilarious – poor bubble 🙂

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:50 am

        Jill.. I think part of me wanted it to be true!

      • Jill
        04/29/2013 at 10:51 am

        I know what u mean about part of u wanted it to b true…it would just reverify what a skank she really is

  74. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 9:47 am

    mean’t skank…… duh!

  75. ringadingding
    04/29/2013 at 9:49 am

    Syntara :
    Someone suggested she would discard her attorneys as soon as she loses.. no that’s not the case.. she will start to devalue them as soon as they start to wake up to what she is.

    Wow, Syn. And that’s exactly what she did to Travis–devalue him once he exposed her true nature. After what you just wrote, I’m thinking that what he’d said to her about being evil and the worst thing that happened to him was too much for her to bear, too much in conflict with her phony persona. Combined with the realization that he was taking someone else to Cancun (a signal that he was serious about it being over), I could see this being enough to put the rage machine in motion.

    The more the DT keeps repeating that last conversation, btw, the more they are testifying to the jury what their client really is. I’m blown away each time it’s brought up. I can understand (and applaud) JM for doing it, but the DT is delusional to think that Travis’ words are a reflection of his abusive language and not what they truly are–honest testimony from the grave.

    (I apologize if these things have already been said, btw. It’s hard to catch up with all that’s been discussed. Ignore away!)

    • 04/29/2013 at 9:53 am

      yep now you are seeing it. Really seeing it.

  76. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 9:53 am

    Ya know, if someone tried to write this up as a book or screenplay cold, nobody would believe it. There is so many sleazy people involved, a trail of destruction wherever JA has been, and the hold she still manages to have over so many. I hope that during her many appeals that they do some serious studies on her so others can be prevented the same fate. (I would rather her brain be dissected on an autopsy table but Syn informed me long ago that you need them breathing to study them :-()

    • 04/29/2013 at 9:56 am

      ya sadly they do need to be alive.. but in her case I’ll make the exception and take her dead brain.. I’m sorry but I really can’t stand her even though and I say that in a proudly unprofessional manner! Breaks everything I believe in but ……..

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 9:58 am

        Finally, finally you’ve come to my deep dark side 😆

      • 04/29/2013 at 10:01 am

        Ive said from the beginning I’d flick her switch. That was LisaM that was in two minds remember! 😛

  77. ringadingding
    04/29/2013 at 10:03 am

    This is a from an issue a while back….the jury question to Dr. D that bothered some (including me) re: the tiger vs bear attack. At first, I was certain it was a snarky put down of her testimony, but then I got to thinking that it sounded a lot like a similarly snarky question posed to Samuels about trauma from a bad haircut. I’m wondering if this is a juror who just doesn’t put stock in any psychological diagnosis? If so, it cancels out all that testimony which was so distracting/confusing and fog inducing (DV, PTSD) and could indicate that someone on the jury is looking at just the physical evidence, which all points to one thing: Murder One.

    Really, if you take away that testimony (even Dr. Dr’s) all’s that’s left is the clear evidence of a planned murder and its attempted cover-up.

    • 04/29/2013 at 10:08 am

      There are a number of us here that thought it was a legitimate question, myself included.

      To me it was saying .. “Dr DeMarte do you think even the difference of being attacked by a bear or tiger could lead to different answers?” I know WIS and few others interpreted it entirely differently.

      I also think perhaps that person posed it ambiguously because they did not want to be thrown off the jury and did not want it clear which ‘side’ they were on.. which would indicate a very smart juror. I just hope it wasn’t CEO (juror #8)

      • ringadingding
        04/29/2013 at 10:12 am

        Well, if that’s the case, it’s a relief. And smart. As I watched her watching the jury and jotting notes, I wondered if she was writing down their numbers every time a question was put in the box, just to track who might be leaning one way or the other. If I were on the jury, I’d want to be out of JA’s view. The way she invades people’s privacy with her sketching is deeply disturbing.

      • 04/29/2013 at 10:14 am

        ringading.. believe it or not I’ve asked about that exact possibility.. trying to clarify where the box is and how much can be seen to identify which juror puts in which question sequentially.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 10:18 am

        I’m still upset that he was kicked off. He hasn’t been convicted of a crime and was so invested in this trial as shown by his voracious note taking But then again, they are having a hearing in West Palm Springs today trying to get a new trial for John Goodman, the polo guy who was drunk and killed a young man and did nothing to help or aid him, because of things the jguy did while on the jury. In the meantime, John Goodman is serving his 16 year sentence in the luxury of his mansion at the polo club he owns on house arrest. I guess JM didn’t want to give them any grounds for a legitimate appeal and I don’t blame him.

      • 04/29/2013 at 10:20 am

        ya MMD I have a feeling he was on the DT’s hit list and they were just loving they finally had a way to get rid of him. He took a lot of notes.. that would scare the crap out of them.. lots notes.. foreman material.. thinker… you know the deal

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 10:11 am

      that question bothered me as well. Hopefully the “experts” will cancel each other out as they usually do and the jury will simply go with all the physical evidence. Wednesday is gonna be a long, long day no matter who is doing the def questioning. I don’t know which is worse, Wurmi and his need for graphic sex and slow tone or Gidget and her speed-talking cluelessness 😦 They’re both so bad I guess it’s a tossup………..

    • 04/29/2013 at 10:12 am

      I agree though.. Dr DeMartes testimony did nothing but refute the claim of PTSD therefore negates the phony amnesia fog. So if you take the PTSD diagnosis out.. ie the one that Dr Dodgy based on that erroneous PTSD test that is founded on the ninjas….

      The defense has no case at all.

  78. ringadingding
    04/29/2013 at 10:21 am

    Syntara :
    ringading.. believe it or not I’ve asked about that exact possibility.. trying to clarify where the box is and how much can be seen to identify which juror puts in which question sequentially.

    I think one of the court watchers (Beth Karas?) said the box is right in front of where juror #5 had been sitting, and that she had put lots of questions in it. If spectators could see this, I imagine JA was all over it. Not sure, though, how other juror’s get their questions in the box, unless they hand it to a bailiff. When the questions were coming in fast and furious, it might have been hard to track, but if there were only a few jurors generating all those questions, I’m thinking they would be easy to identify (though not necessarily what questions were theirs). I think they should create an electronic system for texting messages (something low and not detectable from across the room). I’ve been concerned that jurors are being systematically targeted by the DT, and this is just one way to go about identifying the ones they want off.

    • 04/29/2013 at 10:37 am

      I was worried about this too.. hence thinking that juror about the bear and tiger may have been also. I know if I was on the jury I would be ever mindful of it.

      • ringadingding
        04/29/2013 at 10:46 am

        Yes. I would either be very careful about my questions, or not ask any at all.

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 11:02 am

      It seems like common sense to me that the jury questions should be anonymously turned in. If only all of us on this blog could b judge and jury, things would go so nice and smooth and justice would had.

    • kCruz123
      04/29/2013 at 10:50 pm

      Ring adding,
      Hi and I so agree. I made a comment about this way back. I am certain that the jury analysts have been keeping track of who submits which question.
      I thought that there should be a better way and though electronic is superior I thought that if they would have just changed the submission process so that all jurors had the blank white paper required for submitting questions. Then that they be told to hold onto their questions until the end if that witness testimony, then every juror submits their white paper… With questions or blank. Simple, easy and no additional court cost.

      • Jill
        04/30/2013 at 1:38 am

        Great idea!

      • 04/30/2013 at 1:40 am

        I seriously don’t understand why so many of you worry about the defense team “targeting” jurors. They cannot kick jurors off the jury. Juror 8 was kicked off cuz of his own deeds. Before that, juror kicked off cuz of illness. Juror 5 kicked off due to inappropriate behavior. It doesn’t matter if defense doesn’t like a juror, there’s nothing they can do to get rid if that juror.

  79. 04/29/2013 at 10:29 am

    OMG .. Im watching her answers to the Jury questions and she actually says she got a lot of the memories of the abuse by going over and over her journal entries!! LOLOL nooo wonder all the accusations relate directly to one of those times.. I had already noticed that but I missed she actually says she found it by going over and over her journals!

    how did I miss this? who needs to get memories of abuse by going over journal entries with vague references of the abuse??? she went over the journals and picked out any entry that might allow her to twist it into an abuse claim…. I freakin knew it! Thanks Jodi! You just made my case on this for me!

    • Marilyn N
      04/29/2013 at 12:41 pm

      I thought it was LaLaToilet that told her she had been abused.
      Before her, she had no idea!!!

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:43 pm

        ya that’s what I said.. so she then goes over and over and over her diaries to find some evidence of it. That’s the point.

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:44 pm

        someone put the idea in her head.. she goes over the diary to find the ‘evidence’.. and lala says oh you poor think you are just like snow white.

        done deal

  80. 04/29/2013 at 10:33 am

    hahahaha omg anyone seen these jury questions to her recently?

  81. 04/29/2013 at 10:46 am

    wtf.. she testifies that he shouldn’t have been angrier after she shot him? What he was supposed to be calm? my god she so lacks empathy she can’t even get this???? see that’s what makes her a psychopath…. how could someone sit there and calmly say that without it registering what they are actually saying???

    Sorry… I should put my ipad away while watching this.. or Im gonna fill this blog!

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 10:58 am

      It’s ok…I just can’t watch her testiphony again. It is so frustrating to me to hear her ridiculous lies and not b able to reach thru the tv and choke her..

      • Jill
        04/29/2013 at 10:59 am

        I don’t remember her saying that he shouldn’t have been angrier after she shot him…she’s got to be kidding

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 4:33 pm

      Unbelievable! Another gem was when Juan busted her about humping/grinding Ryan not even 24 hrs after she tortured and slaughtered Travis. Her response? “I was single so there was no reason I should not have done that.” OMG!!!

  82. 04/29/2013 at 10:52 am

    Moon :
    Jellloooooo ev1! Cheers
    Hi NancyB:
    Yesterday you posted a link to “blinkoncrime”. I have been reading from that and am befuddled by much of the bit about the memory cards. I am now going to go back and look at the first testimony by Martinez. Also I think it was Bubble who once posted that he thought 2 memory cards were in the washer, the one in TA’s cam and a loose one at bottom of washer. According to this site, they are agreeing with that and think that Martinez or that guy that came up with the ho’s reflection in TA’s eye might have even (in their forensic evail) combined the pics from both the SD card and the sony card from TAs cam. They also point to the part in the interrogation of the ho on Jul 15 that she herself says there are 2 memory cards, one from TA’s cam and one from hers.
    So, now I have to hear these things again! It seems as tho this site or person blogging has seen more pics then i am remembering?????
    This also now has me pondering the camera… neck strap or wrist strap???
    If it was on the wrist, and the ho didn’t drop it as she contends, then that shot of TA during the neck slashing might very well have been shot while dangling on the ho’s wrist as she was kneeled/hunched over dragging TA, and perhaps hit the wall, causing a ‘Godphotosnap’
    It is a very interesting read, and I thank you for sharing the link.
    It does, however, indicate that blogger is much more for the denfense, esp when I see all the kudo’s thrown out about slurmywurmi! Still in the throws of reading this and also there appear to be some links to more radio talk shows…
    Here’s the link, Thanks again Nancy B.!!
    http://blinkoncrime.com/category/travis-alexander/jodi-arias/
    Also, tupelomz… that bit on how do court reporters do it had me in stiches!! that is great– ty for sharing!

    Good Morning Everyone!
    Moon I am really glad you enjoyed the court reporters post. I even had to share that one with my hubby (who is not nearly as interested in this trial as I) and we had a chuckle.
    I also would like to give my take on the SD cards. When I heard the testimony about this I also took away that there were 2. And I still think there were 2. I was very confused at first as to why Mr. JM was not letting this be made clear. Then this thought came to me…..If they let it be made clear that there were 2 cards then a big part of their cic and their evidence that HoHO was there that day would be more in question. I do not think the pros did anything illegal I just think the info was there and brought up by the csi tech but the pros did not dwell on this info and luckily neither did the defense.
    I do not know exactly what the HOHO did with the pics but I do think she manipulated the SD cards and the hard drive on the computer that was found broken. I think she was really trying to set up some scheme to smear Travis but when she realized there were accidental pics on the cards of the crime she had to delete and try to destroy.
    Also I do not think she was invited into Travis’s house that morning. By her own testimony she was watching him in the office several minutes before he even realized she was there (I am not sure he ever did realize she was there until it was too late). She also stated in her testimony that she awoke at least an hour before Travis later that morning or early afternoon. I think she stayed hidden until Travis went to sleep then used that time to tinker with SD cards and computer. Then she also slept for a while, woke up before he did and laid things out for the murder ie weapons etc. She waited til he got in the shower taking pics still unnoticed, then came at him out of the blue and stabbed him.
    Just my take..

    • ringadingding
      04/29/2013 at 12:21 pm

      Yes, I get the sense that the two cards are problematic for both the DT and prosecution and, like a lot of other stuff, has not been brought into the story being presented to the jury–it’s too messy and dangerous for either side to wade through. If the DT tried to mess with it, they would be raising the very real possibility that JA was not invited and that she staged the sex encounter to look like it happened the same day…making her look even more diabolical and plotting (and definitely not PTSD). It would benefit the Prosecution to focus on this, but the DT would get it all so mired in fog and confusion (raising questions about all the evidence collection…however unfounded) that it wouldn’t be worth the risk. The prosecution had enough evidence of planning, plus her confession, to risk dealing with the claims of DV and PTSD. At least, that’s my take as of right now.

      I’m now definitely convinced those sex pics were from another day (if transferred to his card, wouldn’t they have the new date stamp?) and that she had been laying in wait. It never made sense to me that she would show up in the middle of the night/early am and they would go to bed and not wake up until 1:00. Not with a dog to take care of. Dogs need to eat and be cared for. I don’t know any responsible dog owner who gets to sleep in until 1 pm. I can’t see him being ignored by TA. I do think she was spying on him, that he was at the computer early that am and she waited for him to go to sleep to tinker with his computer. Good thing she didn’t concoct a pedophile story until after she was cornered, or she would have planted porn on his computer.

      The thing that utterly baffles me is that the roommate was in that house with a dead body for 5 days and didn’t know it…and then there’s the dog. Didn’t he notice that Napoleon needed to be fed or let out? Also, dogs are highly sensitive, the poor little guy must have been traumatized by what was going on, even if he was in another part of the house.

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:45 pm

        Ring you and I are on the same page I think :D:
        And about the room mate and the dog, they kinda explained that the room mates thought Travis was already on his Cancun trip and that the room mates girl friend was feeding the dog but evidently no one was walking him. That is how they are explaining the smell. I do not understand how they could pass by the little guy everyday and not clean up behind him or walk him. Baffles me 😕

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 4:35 pm

      Brilliant and thanks! That is what I believe also.

    • Douglme
      04/29/2013 at 11:12 pm

      Some of the pictures didn’t not have date and time on them… not sure what ones now but if it was the nude pictures of her…maybe her friend D Brewer took them for her and they were on the second card that she put in the washer with the camera? It would sure be nice to know, eh? So many unanswered questions!!!

  83. Family of Law
    04/29/2013 at 11:01 am

    I’m watching the defense’s opening arguments- Perky is “um-kaying” her way through this fantastical story! Several things are standing out LOUDLY for me- This in particular: Perkster brings up the “decorative rope”- “Travis liked to tie Jodi up, he’d tied her up many times before, but the rope he’d used previously, had hurt Jodi’s wrists, so THIS time he was PREPARED, he had bought a softer rope, like the kind you tie curtains back with”. What? Prepared? He had “dismissed” her back on May 26th! She supposedly talked to him when in Pasadena, and “decided” she’d “agree” to go see him. So, what kind of store is open at that hour to go buy decorative rope?

    • 04/29/2013 at 11:08 am

      haha FOL I’m on the jury questions to her.. I’m picking up sooo much more this time round.. and also remembering things I’d forgotten that are sooo important.. I can’t wait to go through this properly and get it day by day onto my blog to help me remember it all.

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 12:24 pm

        When you get it all figured out- can you post it here too? I’m blog challenged! The juror Q’s have given me peace of mind, for the most part- but now that the note takers #5 and #8 are gone, I’m a bit nervous.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 11:28 am

      You have my deepest condolences having to listen to Gidget 😉

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 12:26 pm

        Thanks, it really was excruciating, but far faster that W..U…R..M…I.

  84. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 11:19 am

    Here are comments from a story about Daniel Freeman who was one of the first to testify. Remember he went on numerous trips with JA and TA>

    http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/jodi-arias-trial-live-video-stream-trial-continues-soon-arias-friend-daniel-freeman-speaks-out

    PHOENIX – A mutual friend of accused murderer Jodi Arias and victim Travis Alexander is speaking out for the first time since he testified for the defense in January.

    Daniel Freeman was the friend caught in the middle. He was closer to Alexander, but so charmed by Arias he considered her part of his family.

    “She was like a sister. She was part of the family and in my family when you’re a friend you’re family,” said Freeman of his once close relationship to Arias.

    Freeman said what most people don’t know is that he was closer to Alexander, but wanted to give Arias the benefit of the doubt when fingers instantly pointed her way after Alexander was found dead.

    Arias faces a possible death sentence if convicted of first-degree murder in the June 2008 killing of Alexander in his suburban Phoenix home.

    “I kind of defended her and said ‘you know I don’t know if she did it or not, but I can’t treat her like she has unless I know, and the person I know wouldn’t have done it,” said Freeman.

    Freeman said he now realizes he really didn’t know Arias all that well.

    On the day she was arrested a friend called to “rub” it in, but the news came an hour after his brother committed suicide and Freeman was consumed by a different tragedy.

    “At that point, it really didn’t matter,” said Freeman.

    Freeman visited Arias several times in jail, but the visits soon stopped. He just needed to move on.

    “People would tell me to go see her when I was in town. I would think about it, but then never went,” said Freeman.

    In 2010 Freeman was told he could be called to testify for either the prosecution or the defense and not to watch news reports.

    He didn’t watch the news and his friends held back telling him things.

    “My grandmother has watched the entire trial and hasn’t told me a thing,” said Freeman.

    So Freeman had never heard Arias’ third and final claim that she killed in self-defense. He only knew the intruder story.

    Arias’ attorneys called him to testify with only two choices, come on his own free will or be subpoenaed.

    “I was just there to tell the truth and whoever called me would’ve got the same answers” said Freeman.

    When Freeman took the stand he said Arias didn’t look like the Jodi he knew.

    “Whey started the questioning that’s when I realized they were trying to paint Travis as the bad guy. Sitting on the stand, I kind of smiled because I knew that wouldn’t work. He was a good guy – there wasn’t anything bad in anything I ever saw,” recalled Freeman.

    Freeman remembers looking over to Arias wondering what was she thinking, but only got a blank stare in return.

    He also recalls looking over at Prosecutor Juan Martinez chuckling with Detective Estaban Flores. He said he knew Martinez was about to make him a witness for the prosecution and he welcomed it.

    “At least it crossed my mind and whether or not it crossed his I don’t know. But what crossed my mind was he realized I was just telling the truth and that I wasn’t for the defense and that most of what I said he could actually use,” Freeman told ABC15

    Arias’ final story that Alexander physically, emotionally and sexually abused her was too much for Freeman.

    “To me, I see someone who was a good man being dragged through the mud. We all have our weaknesses; we all have the things in our lives that we struggle with that are vices and it’s not often that we have all our vices and dirty laundry dragged out for the whole world to see.”

    In court, Freeman told jurors Arias and Alexander fought, but nothing out of the ordinary from a typical couple.

    He said Alexander wanted to move on, but Arias just kept coming around and Alexander had trouble saying “no” to her.

    “When you’re living a lifestyle that conflicts with your belief’s to the degree with what Travis was doing, to me, that was why he said he couldn’t marry her. He told me that before he said ‘I love her, I care about her, but I can’t marry her.’”

    And as for Arias’ latest claims in court, Freeman shakes his head.

    “I don’t believe her story. He (Travis) was murdered.”

    Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/jodi-arias-trial-live-video-stream-trial-continues-soon-arias-friend-daniel-freeman-speaks-out#ixzz2RrkmqOOo

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 11:21 am

      in moderation – sorry donchais………….hanging head Was it because of the 2 links – I didn’t realize there was one at the bottom 😦 I really try hard not to do this to you!!!

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:25 am

        🙄 naughty corner AGAIN!! ➡

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 11:29 am

        I know………. can’t seem to keep out of it 😦

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 12:20 pm

        You went to the “naughty corner” without me? 😦

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 4:54 pm

      MMD – Thanks so much for posting this — *very* interesting!

  85. 04/29/2013 at 11:21 am

    I wanna know if she really went to Costa Rica or not… her answer to what she did there just doesn’t ring true.. she says..” I went to school there and did ‘extra cirriculum’ things on the weekend”.. who goes to a foreign country and remembers their spare time with the family they stay with as extra cirrcula activities? seriously.. you remember far far more than that.. take it from someone who has travelled a LOT… you say what you did.. you don’t call it extra curriculum activites ffs! Everything.. everything she says is just sooo off!

    sheesh.. could say.. I went to xxxx and went to school and did extra cirriulum thiings on the weekend. Aside from it likely not being true…. when did she very first mention this trip? anyone know? In court or in the interrogation vids?

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 11:25 am

      Syn, I know that Chris Stark did find that Victor Arias did come from Costa Rica as an exchange student – she found school records. As for whether JA went there, dunno. Surprised the hell out of me because I figured that Victor Arias never existed. You would have better luck tracking the info down on her twitter in her favourites section because I’m not on twitter. I just remember seeing it when she posted it.

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:28 am

        ya I thought she wouldnt have made that up.. or her family would KNOW she was still lying. Not the way she operates.. but then she says she was only there for 8 days I was thinking she was there for months.

        My nephew went on an exchange program to Brazil.. he was there for 6 months.. and the girl he met there now is his wife an they live in Melbourne.. he got her over here.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 11:32 am

        Yeah I always thought that when you went away as an exchange student it was for the school year.

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:46 am

        I have tried to find stuff on Chris Stark’s site before and I’m useless at twitter… I can send an IM and I can send a twit (sometimes) but that’s about it. It confuses the heck out of me.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 11:54 am

        😀 That’s why I can’t be bothered with it. I think I’m doing really well just being on here and managing to post, albeit in the naughty corner a lot 😉

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 12:16 pm

      Since when do HS dropouts qualify for foreign exchange programs? This story has got to be another lie- plus I’ve never heard of a 3 week program, they’re generally for a full semester. My son did a foreign exchange in Nice his Junior year- he had to have a B average just to apply for the program. Yup, it’s more of her fantasy life.

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:18 pm

        Im inclined to think he went to the US but she never went to Costa Rica.. I think she made that up somewhere along the line and had to repeat it in court. That’s why I wonder where she first brought that up.

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 12:29 pm

        I vaguely remember it coming in when Wurmi was talking to JA during her 18 days- it may have been when he was trying to point out that all of her other cheating boyfriends were (alive)- I look around and see if I find anything.

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 12:33 pm

        Week 6: From HLN recap- I’m not sure if this is the first it was brought up though?

        When she was three months shy of her 18th birthday, Arias testified she moved in with Juarez. By then, Arias said she had dropped out of high school and was supporting herself by working at a restaurant in Yreka, California.

        During one of their break-ups, Arias testified she began dating Victor Arias (no relation), a boy she met while studying Spanish in Costa Rica.

        While her relationship with Juarez helped her escape from her parents, Arias said Juarez was unfaithful and she recalled one incident where she claimed he choked her so violently that she collapsed.

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 7:32 pm

        You have me LOL!!! Just love you.

    • 04/29/2013 at 12:56 pm

      I doubted the real existence of Victor myself, but now that he is real I bet the story goes like this: She dated Victor and when he went bact to CR she begged borrowed and stole money to go see him there intending to install herself in his life ie free room and board and spending money therefore getting away from mom and dad and getting a free ride in CR. Then when she showed up Victor was shocked and did not fall for her bs and sent her packing right back to the US. Thus saving his own life :/

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 1:28 pm

        Sounds exactly like what she would do!!!

    • ringadingding
      04/29/2013 at 1:10 pm

      I googled spanish immersion in costa rica and up popped a language course that runs from one week to as many as the person wants. That would be enough of a front for her to do whatever sneaky rotten thing she was really up to (who knows what that was…).

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 4:57 pm

      1st we ever heard of this was during her direct testimony. Not a word about it during the interrogation videos. I’ve also doubted the validity of this “exchange” program.

  86. 04/29/2013 at 12:03 pm

    I cant believe this.. the best she can come up with for stabbing him all those times, slitting his throat and shooting him is basically 4 instances of him saying some angry words to her and maybe pushing her. sheesus!!! how much of a spoilt brat is she? rhetorical!! Anyone else would think he was an angel only getting angry at her 4 times.. this is her immaturity and narcissism. Nothing short of absolutely perfection is good enough for her.

    LaLa gave her the permission for this ridiculousness. She now seriously thinks that’s abuse.

  87. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 12:04 pm

    I just saw this on USA today. I really hope that he’s wrong!!! Hope this is the right video 😉

    http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2013/04/29/2120323/

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:05 pm

      Yep, it’s the correct one. phew………

  88. Family of Law
    04/29/2013 at 12:08 pm

    I’ve spent my morning going through David L’s videos of opening arguments- Perky’s was excruciatingly painful! But it was worth it, because it was made absolutely clear to me that the DT has failed miserably at proving ANY of their defense argument. So, to cheer myself up, I poured my 3rd cup of coffee, and watched JUAN’s opening argument- YUP! Home run! Through HARD evidence, and expert testimony, he’s proven everything he stated in his opening, beyond REASONABLE doubt!
    In watching these vids this morning, I noticed that JA began without glasses, then a couple of times I saw clear framed “cheaters” (reading glasses)- then the glasses evolved into “Miss Librarian” glasses. So… is she nearsighted or farsighted? Ugh! Her “make under” is insulting to anyone’s IQ! In searching for info on JA’s fake glasses I found this http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/tag/jodi-arias/ I find body language interesting, and she hit a few really interesting points.

  89. 04/29/2013 at 12:08 pm

    you’re sourcing USA today after the LaLa bullshite?

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:14 pm

      I was just interested in the grade that the defense lawyer gave the attorneys. I didn’t go look for it, it popped up in a google alert. At least he gave JM a better grade than the Def. On HLN, their def “attorneys” would never do that.

  90. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 12:11 pm

    Speaking of ALV and her new book, it is temporarily out of stock at Amazon. Wonder if they even released it?????????

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 12:20 pm

      I really hope it didn’t sell out

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 12:29 pm

        Let’s put it this way – it’s still stuck at a 1 and a smidge start rating and is Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #151,109 in Books.

        Don’t think it’s gonna be a top 10 or in the top 100 anytime soon 😉

  91. 04/29/2013 at 12:16 pm

    Nurmi went to the lawyering school of snoozeville… “how to put the listener to sleep”

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:30 pm

      wrong he went to the school of oral, anal, vaginal snoozeville!!!

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:31 pm

        well he sure learnt to talk out of his butt.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 12:33 pm

        we need to repost Chrissie’s twit picture of Wurmi with the grapes in this spot! 😀 just to keep everything in perspective 😆

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:09 pm

        MMD seriously

        Naughty corner ➡ NOW!!!!!

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 1:36 pm

        but it’s just such a good visual and makes having to listen to him bearable 🙄

  92. 04/29/2013 at 12:23 pm

    ok here’s a HUGE blatant very telling lie….. Nurmi asks her if she ever asked Travis to take her to Cancun.. she says “No, I never asked him anything like that” yeah right ok ….. seriously Jodistein you freakin jenius…. do you really think we are THAT f%$ing stoopid???

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:31 pm

      now we just know that’s a rhetorical question 😀

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 12:38 pm

      That’s why I was hoping that Juan would have brought someone in from PPL- I read somewhere that originally JA’s name was on the ticket, then later was changed to Mimi H- But maybe that couldn’t be proven? Either way, quoting Sponge Bob, “Liar, liar, PLANTS on fire”!

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:40 pm

        ya but I don’t think it’s needed.. honestly. Can you seriously imagine she NEVER asked anything along those lines? which is what she says here.

        It takes a suspension of reality to accept that.

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 1:00 pm

        I hate misquoting Sponge Bob! “Liar, liar, PLANTS for hire”!

        Yea, you said it… There’s NO way his taking another woman to Cancun was not a heated discussion, repeatedly! The thought of him taking another girl for so much as a slice of pizza, enraged her enough to slash tires!

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:12 pm

        zegactly!!!

  93. 04/29/2013 at 12:34 pm

    this nurmi line of questioning is sooo stoopid.. cos if there is any jurors with a brain all he is doing is showing every answer she gives is a lie… Nurmi is soo stupid he doesn’t even seem to realise this… I don’t get the defenses strategy.. I know I keep saying that.. but I REALLY don’t.

    Is it to just hopefully strike one juror at least to not give her the death penalty.. cos for me if I was on that jury and I heard this I’d want to put her to death just for thinking I’m stupid enough to believe this crap.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:40 pm

      darlin’ ya do have a way with words 😉 although I feel the exact same way!!! Just the photos shown at the start of the trial made me want her to cease breathing, and sooner rather than later. Those were the days when I was still being polite and saying I just wanted her to cease to exist cause I had never wished death on anyone before. Then JA appeared in my life and I have changed my tune, in this case only.

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:46 pm

        seriously though.. what is the defenses strategy? I wanna know.. is it just throw crap around and hope something sticks in at least one jurors head so they won’t give her the DP?

    • ringadingding
      04/29/2013 at 12:49 pm

      I hope JM can repeat some of her testimony in closing arguments to refresh their memory and point out she lied right to their faces (her saying she only had two gas cans has, for one thing, has been proved to be a lie). If she has been found to lie on one thing, aren’t they allowed to discount all of her testimony in deliberations?

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:50 pm

        I think he will play more excepts of the interrogation vids.. and also remind of some stuff in the 48 hours documentary.

  94. 04/29/2013 at 12:48 pm

    omg I know why she brought that 9mm she just told us!! accidentally of course!

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 5:06 pm

      WHY????

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 8:44 pm

      Did you head off to bed? Leaving us with a cliff hanger?

      • 04/29/2013 at 10:28 pm

        hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! 😆

  95. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 12:48 pm

    OT – there is a hearing in West Palm Beach today to decide whether John Goodman, the polo magnate, should get a new trial due to the fact that one juror forgot to disclose that his ex-wife was arrested for dui in the 80’s. He says he forgot because of a stroke he had. Anyway, JG is the guy who tried to adopt his girlfriend (which ultimately failed) so she would have access to his children’s $300M trust fund, was sentenced to 16 years and is serving his time at his mansion on his Polo Grounds that he owns, and has already settled (well his insurance did) either a $35-45M wrongful death lawsuit with Scott Wilson’s parents. Oh btw, It wasn’t his fault, it was the Bentley’s. And did I mention that he went into a fog after the accident??????

    If he gets a new trial I will scream and tear his attorney Roy Black a new one!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😦

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:50 pm

      sorry…………………..rant over, just had to get that out of my system cause ya know how I keep telling people not to let it stay inside and fester………………………………… 😳

  96. ringadingding
    04/29/2013 at 12:50 pm

    Syntara :
    seriously though.. what is the defenses strategy? I wanna know.. is it just throw crap around and hope something sticks in at least one jurors head so they won’t give her the DP?

    I’ve come to the conclusion that they’re just doing whatever JA tells them, following her right down the rabbit hole.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:51 pm

      Exactly – she is running the entire show and has from the start!

    • 04/29/2013 at 12:52 pm

      yeah but still they should have a strategy of some kind.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 12:57 pm

        The strategy is to trash TA and his family as much as possible, make JA look like the victim, confuse the hell out of everyone, and then she gets acquitted and goes on with her life. I truly think this is the way she is thinking – but you’re the damn expert!!! 😯

      • 04/29/2013 at 12:59 pm

        Im an expert in behaviour.. not defense strategy! 😛 I’d approach this from such a different angle I can’t get my head around what they are doing.

        I know what she is doing.. but I don’t know what they are doing!

      • ringadingding
        04/29/2013 at 12:59 pm

        From what I can see the strategy is to get every intelligent juror kicked off and drag this thing out until more are lost through attrition. 😉 In all seriousness, I know what you mean, but when you look at what they have to work with, maybe a delusional approach is all they have going for them?

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:03 pm

        hahahah yeah that is one I went with fairly recently too ringading! the get rid of all the intelligent jurors or enough so there’s only 11 left

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:10 pm

      The duhfense is clearly going for the ol “confuse the hell out of them” strategy or “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bull shit” strategy 😆

  97. 04/29/2013 at 12:53 pm

    If I were doing her defense I could have come up with a far far far better one than they have.. .. and I’m not even remotely qualified in that area.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:58 pm

      well we know that, but you’re not a psychopath! see above!

      • ringadingding
        04/29/2013 at 1:00 pm

        lol

      • 04/29/2013 at 1:02 pm

        I guess I don’t know how the system works. Cos I would sit down with her anad explain.. look it’s in your interests to do this this this and this.. and your idea won’t work because this this this and this. If she doesnt listen I’m not going to play BFF with her.

        THAT’s why I don’t get what the defense is doing cos JW is too genuine in her BFF administrations.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 1:04 pm

        But ultimately she thinks she knows best and they have to listen to what she says!!!! Look at how she is always giving them questions to ask!

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:00 pm

      Syn~~
      Yes you could have because Wurmi’ s buttons have worked harder keeping his shirt closed than he has!!! LOL!!

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 1:02 pm

        ROFL 😆

  98. ringadingding
    04/29/2013 at 12:55 pm

    tupelomz :
    Ring you and I are on the same page I think :
    And about the room mate and the dog, they kinda explained that the room mates thought Travis was already on his Cancun trip and that the room mates girl friend was feeding the dog but evidently no one was walking him. That is how they are explaining the smell. I do not understand how they could pass by the little guy everyday and not clean up behind him or walk him. Baffles me

    • ringadingding
      04/29/2013 at 12:56 pm

      Sorry, my reply to you didn’t show up. Thanks for the explanation, tupelomz. Poor little guy.

  99. 04/29/2013 at 12:57 pm

    Sorry gang, I must have blinked between Searcy and Brewer. Sorry. I owe you all dinner and drinks…

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 12:59 pm

      Yes you do bubble because ya put that mental image into my head. Thankfully, it eventually left 😉

    • Marilyn N
      04/29/2013 at 12:59 pm

      Well you gave us a ton of good laughs so that was good!!

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:04 pm

      Bubble~~thanks for the almost visuals!! You are a hoot. Glad you found your way back!!

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 1:07 pm

      Thankfully I read it this morning with an empty stomach!!!

    • 04/29/2013 at 1:16 pm

      hahaha Bubble I had fun with it anyhow.. plus I picked up on some stuff I’d forgotten about going through that day. 😀 but seriously.. I would have LOVED it to be true!!

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 5:12 pm

        Actually, I’ve always been very suspicious that she had sex with that low life sleaze bag Gus when she spent the night & 2 days at his trailer in Las Vegas. Anal? Who knows, my mind doesn’t go there but I’m highly doubtful that they had a
        “platonic” relationship as he testified. Also, didn’t good ole Gus have to come back for more testimony about some refusing to answer Juan about responding to some question about naming a person or something? Am I dreaming? I thought the dope claimed the 5th on the stand — what an idiot!!!!

      • 04/29/2013 at 10:02 pm

        Yes Nance! I too think he is a sexual predator in that she uses sex to catch her prey… it’s unlikely, due to her nature that she did not use it.. I mean seriously… if Donovan was her girlfirend and I use that loosely too!! Gus kinda isn’t that bad compared to Donoman!!

      • 04/29/2013 at 5:29 pm

        Oh she had sex with the slime ball Gus for sure. And he paid. The amount of cash HoHO had on June 3 & 4 did not just fall out of the sky. She was on a mission to murder and she did not care what she had to do to get there. Gus was not her only customer I am sure. She is so 😈

  100. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Vickee darlin’ – where have you been????? I haven’t seen you in ages 😉 ****waves***** to Marilyn 🙂

    • Marilyn N
      04/29/2013 at 1:54 pm

      *******Waves back, MMD********
      gotta run some errands to make sure I’m clear for Wednesday!!
      Later!!😃
      (still laughing at the visual in my head – re:the Gus man) hahahahaha

    • 04/29/2013 at 6:26 pm

      MMD~~I have been here mostly. Usually just read because I cannot type on this phone fast enough. Everyone had such great information/ideas and they usually post what I am thinking, sooo not to be redundant I just hang loose!!!

      But you know MMD this trial had taken me to mental places I do not want to go but I would like to see JA have her throat slit inch by inch until she is gone, the needle will be just fine.

  101. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Kinda interesting…….

    http://mixedbagblog.com/2013/04/26/whats-wrong-with-dr-geffner/

    What’s Wrong With Dr. Geffner?
    26 Replies
    Though Dr. Geffner has some pretty hefty credentials he also has some serious issues having been impeached in some court cases. Check it out:

    1. His background is impressive, he is the Founder and President of the Family Violence and Sexual Assault Institute in San Diego, California. He has been a researcher and consultant for 28 years and has presented over 450 key note speeches.

    2. Now the bad news- for him: (This info is from a comment made by ‘Nancy B’ on the ‘My Crime Time’ blog). Regarding the Case of Cyndie O’Rourke v. James O’Rourke the court found Dr. Geffner to be nothing more than a ‘hired gun’ for the Mother in this case. This was a divorce/custody case where the Father prevailed. Apparently the MMPI test found ‘maladaptive personality traits’ in the Mother and Dr. Geffner challenged the use of the MMPI test and even went on to recommend that the Mother file ethics complaints against the other mental health professionals in the case.He felt he was the expert and the others were out of their expertise. (Nancy B. shares a link for info. on the ‘My Crime Time’ blog). This indicates to me he will most likely imply the MMPI test is not valid in this case and Dr. Demarte doesn’t have the credentials that he does and her opinion is therefore inadequate.

    3. Dr. Geffner testified that he no longer treats patients but devotes all his time to consulting work related to his specialty. He has been an expert witness in a number of cases in different jurisdictions. Though he has testified in a great number of cases he stated that he did not remember very much about the facts of those cases.

    4. In a Texas case; Clark v. Collins, 956 F.2d 68 (5th Circuit 1992) the court found that Dr. Geffner’s affidavit lacked credibility, in part because it was based on hearsay information supplied by the defendant’s attorney with no independent verification. (Sound like any defense attorneys we know who believe everything their client says?)

    5. The court also excluded the Dr.’s testimony in Hawaii v. French, 129 P.3d 581 (Hawaii 2006) involving allegations of child sexual abuse.

    6. In State v. Supulvado, 655 So.2d 623 (La. App. 1995) the court limited most of his testimony as he relied mostly on the information supplied by the defendant and he testified about effects of brain damage on emotional functioning though he is not a medical doctor.

    7. So I dug a little more and found this:

    Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 687, 104 S.Ct. 2052, 2064, 80 L.Ed.2d 674 (1984). “[C]ounsel is strongly presumed to have rendered adequate assistance and made all significant decisions in the exercise of reasonable professional judgment. Id. at 690, 104 S.Ct. at 2066.

    22 The state trial court found that Dr. Geffner’s affidavit lacked credibility for three reasons: (1) the evaluation, which makes conclusions as to Clark’s conduct in 1987, was conducted five years later, in 1992; (2) Dr. Geffner did not review the court records or a transcript of the trial testimony; and (3) Dr. Geffner relied upon records from Clark’s childhood in Pennsylvania, with no records since 1976, and upon hearsay information supplied by Clark’s attorneys, with no independent verification of the information, and interviews with Clark. The state court further found that, even if credible, Dr. Geffner’s affidavit does not support a conclusion that Clark was either incompetent or insane at the time of the murders, or that he did not act deliberately within the meaning of the first special issue.

    8. Oh, and did I mention he was an editor for Alyce LaViolette?

    Should be a field day for Mr. Martinez!

  102. 04/29/2013 at 1:27 pm

    ahahahahah wurmi stuffed it.. it was him that suggested those gas purchases weren’t for gas…. what a freakin doofus! he didn’t even check before making that objection based on that.. omg Juan must have laughed at that one! Her own defense attorney opened that door to prove she was hiding those gas purchases!!!

    tooo freakin funny.

  103. 04/29/2013 at 1:30 pm

    ok I have a theory… I think the reason the defense had dr dodgy and lala on the stand for 4645637 days was to make sure the Jury forgot all this testimony… because if those days werent there I would not have forgotten so much of this.

    So that strategy worked!

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 1:40 pm

      That’s why JM is going to tie it all up complete with a bow in his closing arguments! Have some faith – he’s really good at what he does and truly cares about not only justice for Travis but for the entire Alexander family!!!

      Syn – you’re a smart girl but ya gotta stop worrying so much!!! He hasn’t let us down yet! 😀 and he won’t.

    • Marilyn N
      04/29/2013 at 1:56 pm

      Y E S ! ! !

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 5:14 pm

      Absolutely! That’s why I kept getting so pissed off because it worked!

  104. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 1:44 pm

    Now this is weird!!!

    Justify Travis ‏@JustifyTravis
    @WildAboutTrial #JodiArias trial fact 58: The code to get into Travis’ garage was 0187. 187 is the police code for homicide. Weird right?

  105. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 1:49 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Every time I type the word “out” I feel like I should embrace my home land up North by spelling it “oot”. Can I do that? I am a dual citizen

    Glad to see Wild hasn’t forgotten his Canuck roots!!! 😀

  106. stephanie
    04/29/2013 at 2:00 pm

    Hello all! I apologize if this is a re-post but I thought all of you should read this. It is a post from Tanisha, one of Travis’s sisters, asking for help and prayers. Here is what she wrote

    Message from Tanisha Sorenson
    To All the Supporters of Travis and our Family,
    As the time is now near to verdict time our family needs your support more than ever now. You all have been true examples of Christ, very giving , caring, kind hearted, and loving. The support of all of you has been heartfelt and has brought many smiles to our families faces during these hard times. We will be forever grateful !
    I know that the most important thing we can all continue doing is getting down on our knees and praying to the Lord that we will have Justice for Travis here on this earth. I know there will be Justice in the life to come in the eternities but I feel that the Lord will also have his hand in bringing Justice here on earth. Our Heavenly father hears our prayers and he will answer them.
    The jury will get this case on Monday the 6th and that’s why I have a special request from all of you to join us as we pray and fast for the Jury, For our Family, For Travis, and For the Ultimate Justice in this case. My family and I will be fasting and praying on Sunday May 5th. I know from my own personal experience that the Lord has answered my prayers after I fasted, and that’s why I know if we all do it on Sunday the 5th , he will see that we all have faith in him and that Justice is what we want and I feel he will deliver as he touches the hearts of the Jurors.
    We have all been brought together thru this horrible tragedy, we have all been touched by Travis and his inspiration as he was alive, by the things he did while he was alive, and by the people he helped and served while he was alive, and because of the Death of this amazing man , we all share the love, the loss, the hope, the sorrow, the life, the faith, the gratitude, the strength, the empathy, and the unity, together. May the Lord continued to bless all of you for all the strength and love you have shown our family.
    Don’t be sad for Travis for he is happy, in a wonderful place doing the Lords work, he continues to teach, learn, serve, laugh, make others laugh, sing, and rejoice in happiness. He is with our Savior Jesus Christ, he is with us in our hearts and minds , and he will be with us as we get the Verdict of Guilty of first degree Murder and have Justice for him! Our family loves you all!! Our Heavenly Father loves you, and Travis loves you!!
    Justice4Travis!!!

    I will be fasting on Sunday 5/5 in support of Travis and the family, and hope that others will as well. I am a firm believer in the power of prayer (regardless of one’s faith), especially in large numbers. We are all in this together.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 2:32 pm

      As long as I can drink (and I don’t mean alcohol) cause if not I will get a migraine, then I’m in. It also happens to be the anniversary of my dad’s death many years ago.

      • Jill
        04/29/2013 at 3:07 pm

        Sorry about your dad. That must b a hard day. He’s up where travis is, at peace and smiling down on you.

      • 04/29/2013 at 6:41 pm

        MMD~~I am with you on 5-5. Maybe the date of your dad ‘s passing is not a coincidence on this fasting date.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 2:33 pm

      Thanks for post this Stephanie 😀 because we are all in this together!!!

  107. Cats
    04/29/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
    4/27/2013 NOT – Notice – Party (001) 4/29/2013
    NOTE: NOTICE OF ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY RE: SURREBUTTAL WITNESS

    Anyone see this?

    • 04/29/2013 at 2:18 pm

      Hi Cats
      What does that mean? There is going to be more that one surrebuttal witness?

      • Cats
        04/29/2013 at 2:28 pm

        I guess or they want to provide additional info with their current surrebuttal witness?

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 2:30 pm

        The defense may request it but doesn’t mean they’re gonna get it. They are probably trying something sneaky to go beyond the scope of what they’re allowed. imo

      • truejustice
        04/29/2013 at 3:03 pm

        Good lord.

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 5:20 pm

      YES and I am sooooo pissed off!!! I knew this was coming and posted about it to WIS on the previous thread. They are now saying that they want Geffner to also be allowed to refute Dr Horn’s testimony. If Judge Stephens allows a PhD be comparable in knowledge base of expert testimony of the brain to be equivalent to an MD – a Medical Examiner’s scope of practice is 1000% more vast then a psychologist – with a degree in neurobiology. Such BS! Geffner is NO pathologist, Horn IS.

  108. Jim
    04/29/2013 at 3:07 pm

    I don’t have Chrissie’s mad skills, but the pic of the road sign caused me to dream this up:

    https://plus.google.com/photos/107138656247204115325/albums/5872341626240427937?authkey=COjvssKY3-uvnAE

    • Jill
      04/29/2013 at 3:09 pm

      That’s funny, Jim! Don’t know how u guys do this cool, editing stuff.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 3:22 pm

      I agree with Jill – great. I can’t even figure out twitter or fb 😦

      • Jim
        04/29/2013 at 3:25 pm

        🙂 I don’t do space face or twitter either – took a minute to figure out how to make it available on here…

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 5:06 pm

        Jim I always get a chuckle when you call it space face 😆

    • 04/29/2013 at 5:31 pm

      You did good Jim, I’ve worked out how to post a link but to doctor a pic is way beyond the scope for me.

    • Chrissie A
      04/29/2013 at 5:37 pm

      LOL!! Hurts Rentals! Brilliant job Jim 🙂 Loved it! Great job on the car plate too!!! It’s a keeper – Tx for sharing 😛

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 8:47 pm

      Love it!!!

  109. 04/29/2013 at 3:10 pm

    Just some rambling thoughts and questions-

    As far as the sex pictures on the camera from June 4th I can’t help but wonder if she changed the clock time on the camera during certain photos or if the time was just wrong. My camera sometimes has the right date but wrong time so i have to change it to the correct time.

    Does anyone else think she might have changed the time? Or that the pics are from another day? Or possibly a picture of another picture as stated above? Is there a way an expert is able to tell?

    I agree with the person above who said that the lighting and pictures were awful for someone who claims to be a photographer. There’s no rhyme or reason for some of the poses. Like she’s dictating to him how to stand. I mean a pic of only the square of his bare back? Wth was she planning on taking a before and after pic of his back with and without the stab wounds? The others look like he’s ready to be frisked by the police. What’s with the one of him sitting down showing only his neck down? How is that an artistic photo? What are those darkened areas under his back and butt? Are they shadows? My husband thinks it looks like blood.

    Also, i really don’t think Travis would have had sex with her that day after the May fight happened. He was so adamant about not wanting her around anymore. If TA was expecting her and they spoke on her way there, then why is there an 18 yr gap of no phone?
    One of the roommates said he came home for an hour during the day of the 4th…did he see the rental car in the driveway? Does anyone know if that was questioned?
    What do you guys think of Travis’s facial expression during that close-up photo? To me he seems nervous or scared..idk…could she have been pointing the gun at him at that point threatening him?

    She claims she didn’t know the gun went off and she shot Travis..umm hello doesn’t a gun make a loud sound when it’s shot? How could she have not known?

    One last question (this might be a stupid question sorry) but is there a way to fingerprint the shell casing?

    • 04/29/2013 at 4:56 pm

      Lots of good questions. Some of which I still have myself. But as to a roommate coming home and seeing her car in the driveway, I think she said in some part of her testiphony that she parked on the street a ways from his house.

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 5:30 pm

        Agree!

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 5:33 pm

        tupelomz – I don’t think she ever *admitted* to where she parked. Det Flores asked her at least twice in the interrogation vids about this but she never gave any answer is what I remember.

      • kCruz123
        04/29/2013 at 8:47 pm

        You live in your namesake? I’m from Starkville.

      • 04/29/2013 at 9:52 pm

        Thanks Nancy I had not heard that in the interview I just thought I recalled her saying it in testimony.
        kCruz Howdy neighbor! We live in Houston and hubby works in Tupelo. Small small world huh? Btw I luv luv me some MSU. Big fan have on my State jogging pants as we speak 😀
        I am a transplant from Arkansas and gotta say luv my HOGS too.

    • kCruz123
      04/29/2013 at 9:10 pm

      Bailey good, I know what you and your husband mean when you think that’s blood that is seeping from underneath him in the pic where he is sitting in the shower. That pic just stayed with me. I thought it was blood also and i couldn’t understand why no one noticed it/was talking about it. Finally I started comparing it to other pics of the shower and saw the shower drain. Oh, of course, he’s sitting on the shower drain and it’s not blood.
      But like so many aspects of this case, it stuck in my thoughts until I could figure out the who, what, when, or why.
      And, though its very difficult, I have to realize that many things about this case that I question will never be answered.
      I can speculate forever but some things will never be revealed. She alone knows what happened and she alone will always know. There may be a day when she proclaims to tell the truth but she has already proven that she ‘wrote’ this story and even as she continues to re-write it, the truth is buried among the lies. She’ll never tell the truth. Or, if she does we won’t be able to know the truth from her lies.

  110. katie
    04/29/2013 at 3:21 pm

    i just want Jodi to get the Dp so she will be in a cell 23 hrs a day and very little to do. If she goes to general population is’t like a big slumber party…

    • ringadingding
      04/29/2013 at 3:44 pm

      I have a hard time with the DP, feeling it reduces us to the level of the criminal; however, I’m concerned that if she gets LWOP and mixes with other prisoners, she can influence others to do her bidding in the outside world (still can’t shake the feeling that’s what happened with Dr. D’s stolen computer). I wish there were a sentence of LWOP combined with solitary confinement. It’s not enough to keep her out of society, she has to be deprived of contact, given her keen ability to manipulate others.

      • 04/29/2013 at 5:15 pm

        I too have a hard time with the DP sometimes but there are times when the criminal and the crimes they have committed are so awful that there is no other answer such as serial killers, baby/child rapist/killers etc. As for HoHO I am on the fence because in DP there are automatic appeals and this could be drug thru the courts and in the public for years and as we have seen thus far in this trial there are no limits as to what she will do to Travis’s memory and his family. BUT life in prison would soon become HoHO’s playground. I would not want to be in this jury’s shoes at all.

  111. Carmen
    04/29/2013 at 3:32 pm

    Hi. This may have already been asked and answered: I haven’t seen the sex photos that were supposedly taken on June 4th because it’s bad enough I have to look at HoHo’s ugly murderous face, I don’t want to look at her overly used “hooha”.

    If Travis and jodi had sex on the 4th, wouldn’t she have been a brunette? She dyed her hair from blonde to brown the day before she killed Travis. So if her hair is blond in the pictures, they had to have been taken on a different day.

    • Jim
      04/29/2013 at 3:41 pm

      She was a brunette in the pics on June 4 – with “pigtails” to boot – you were very wise to skip the unredacted photos….

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 5:59 pm

      Ya, you really, truly don’t want to look at the JA pictures. I warn and warn people but they still look and then wish they hadn’t. If they are what JA thinks are sexy poses, well then I have oil in my back yard – a real gusher 😆

  112. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 4:08 pm

    OT – I am watching the juror who is being questioned about his voir dire before the John Goodman trial (which is long over and he was sentenced to 16 years a year ago) and if this is any indication of what the jurors are like in JA’s trial, we are in deep trouble. Truly scary 😦

    • Marilyn N
      04/29/2013 at 5:28 pm

      Ugg!!! That John G. is a real slime bag!!!!!

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 5:36 pm

      Hi MMD – Where are you watching this??? On line?

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 5:59 pm

        yep

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 6:12 pm

        He expects to give his ruling prior to the end of the week.

  113. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 4:18 pm

    I truly want to reach through my screen and strangle attorney Roy Black!!! Are all def attorneys jerks???????? He lost me when he got William Kennedy Smith off back in the day.

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 5:41 pm

      Moi aussi! Roy Black’s conduct during that trial was unforgivable. He totally trashed the rape VICTIM. It was truly despicable.

      • MMD
        04/29/2013 at 6:08 pm

        I think that John Goodman is gonna get a new trial. You should have seen the attorneys that Goodman had there. More than there were spectators. Goodman did the crime, paid the civil suit, is on house arrest in his mansion on his polo club, tried to adopt his g/f, it just goes on an on. He needs to man up and do his time. He already admitted guilt by settling with the victim’s family for $35-45M. Good lord, by the time a new trial is finished, and he will get re-convicted, he could have done his time and been done with it.

        Yeah right, it was the Bentley’s fault, he drank after the accident and he went into a fog. 👿

        At least Judge Colbath is fair and will do the right thing and usually doesn’t let the defense get away with dirty tricks, unlike some we know. 😉

  114. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 4:24 pm

    Syntara :
    ya MMD I have a feeling he was on the DT’s hit list and they were just loving they finally had a way to get rid of him. He took a lot of notes.. that would scare the crap out of them.. lots notes.. foreman material.. thinker… you know the deal

    Syn & MMD – YES. I do not believe that it’s a mere coincidence that two jurors who wrote the MOST notes are gone. #5 – wrote the most notes & #8 came in 2nd. That’s why JW was smiling from ear to ear when she came out of chambers. I had never seen her smile like that ever before! With a big open face smile. She is disgusting! Even if those were her honest feelings, how unprofessional to not have had the sense to tuck it in.

    I’m sorry for what happened to #8 but I believe that Judge Stephens had absolutely no alternative but to bounce him. Can you imagine the defense’s motion (even before the whole trial is done) with the accusation that he was “drunk” or under the influence during the time that the jury was deliberating! OMG – that would definitely be an automatic re-trial. Even the suggestion of the possibility that he was drinking would just contaminate everything.

    I can not wait to find out after this whole shebang is a done deal to find out which juror asked the question about the Bear & the Tiger!!

    HLN played Juan’s Opening Statement & JW’s today. I was getting all worked up listening to the bold faced lies that JW set the entire defense case to come up with. The defense team are sluts in my book.

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 4:32 pm

      I found the transcript of JW’s opening statement so I wouldn’t have to listen to her. I would love to read JM’s opening statement but I can’t find it.

      JW and Wurmi are constantly doing inappropriate things, just like their client.

      I agree the defense team are beyond sluts in my book as well, and I sincerely hope that their careers suffer after this entire trial and sentencing is done and over with.

  115. MMD
    04/29/2013 at 4:37 pm

    Goody my “And Justice for Some” by Wendy Murphy was shipped today even though they said it might not be until mid May 😀

    • MMD
      04/29/2013 at 4:39 pm

      I can’t wait to dig into it!!!!! 😆

  116. C.I,
    04/29/2013 at 5:21 pm

    I have a question – Remember the fellow who lent Jodi money to go to Mesa. He stated that she used to work there but then only came in to use the computer alot. I wonder if the police ever checked this computer? anyone know?

    • 04/29/2013 at 5:34 pm

      Is this the computer hard drive that they found in TA’s office busted up?

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        04/29/2013 at 5:45 pm

        No….the computer at the Ventana.

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 7:25 pm

      Paul Stern – and CI you have it a little twisted around – he said that he owns a home in the area and that Jodi always came into that bar/restaurant to use the WIFI & that she was always on her computer. Tracey posted the transcript from when he was on Dr Drew back in Feb on the previous thread. (might be easier to google his name + Dr Drew) 🙂 What I found so interesting was that she admitted to him that she had to get to Mesa right away when he loaned her the $$. He described her as *frantic* to get there!

      • C.I,
        04/29/2013 at 9:04 pm

        Thank you Nancy for clarifying the for me – I thought it was the bar/restaurants computer.

  117. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 5:23 pm

    Hi all – are you all aware of what the contents of the defense’s new BS motion???? I am soooo angry. I knew this was coming and posted about it to WIS on the previous thread. They are now saying that they want Geffner to also be allowed to refute Dr Horn’s testimony. If Judge Stephens allows a PhD be comparable in knowledge base of expert testimony of the brain to be equivalent to an MD – a Medical Examiner’s scope of practice is 1000% more vast then a psychologist – with a degree in neurobiology. Such BS! Geffner is NO pathologist, Horn IS.

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 6:04 pm

      Hi Nancy- The judge has been incredibly “lenient” but granting this ridiculous motion would be just crazy! What would a PhD be able to say (that anyone would believe) to refute an experienced ME (who’s done over 6000 autopsies). It would be a joke, and doubtful it could do anything to change a jurors intake of Dr. Horn’s expert testimony. But nothing surprises me anymore?!?

  118. Anna
    04/29/2013 at 5:25 pm

    more Rascal & hope everyone is hangin’ there in baby!!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeTNKH7Vvrw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  119. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 5:51 pm

    I’ve brought over my comment & WIS’s response from the previous thread:

    04/26/2013 at 6:01 pm | #71

    WIS – Important question for you: Since Dr Horn did not offer any *new* testimony yesterday compared to his testimony on Jan 10th does that mean that the defense will not be allowed to have their own (if they can find Dr Wener Spitz or someone of that ilk) ME to refute Dr Horn’s testimony in their sur-rebuttal?

    WhereIsSHE
    04/27/2013 at 6:02 pm | #75

    NancyB-
    Correct (assuming the defense does not ARGUE that he offered “new” evidence that they would be entitled to rebut–AND the court were to agree).
    I didn’t watch Dr. Horn’s entire rebuttal testimony, but my understanding is that Juan simply had him answer questions to refute Jodi’s killing-sequence-claims, and that he only referred to evidence previously admitted during the state’s case-in-chief.
    Therefore, I would say the defense will not have any opportunity to “rebut” his rebuttal testimony.
    (If the defense could have found ANYONE to refute his original testimony, we would have heard it during their case. Says a LOT, doesn’t it.)

  120. 04/29/2013 at 5:51 pm

    I started watching the Gus Searcy testimony for the first time. That guy is such a slime. First, PrePaidLegal sounds like such a crappy organization. According to Searcy, the Executive Director status is about 1500 people out of 400,000 people. That is .00375%. And if Executive Director is anyone who sells $100,000 in a year, that means only 1500 people in the whole company even make six figures. Doesn’t sound like a promising future to me. Yuk!

    • NancyB
      04/29/2013 at 7:18 pm

      In my opinion it’s a scam for the most part – and as Juan described in his cross, a pyramid/triangle (he he he) scheme.

    • ringadingding
      04/29/2013 at 9:39 pm

      Ugh. Today, I was channel surfing and caught part of JW’s opening statements in which she referred to Travis as an Executive Director of PPL several times, failing to point out that this is not an exclusive title but a name given to anyone who reaches a certain level of sales (mainly, to friends and family because that is who those pyramid schemes prey on). It was appalling the way she made him sound like a high powered CEO who treated poor Jodi like a sex slave.

  121. Jay
    04/29/2013 at 6:19 pm

    Cats :
    Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
    4/27/2013 NOT – Notice – Party (001) 4/29/2013
    NOTE: NOTICE OF ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY RE: SURREBUTTAL WITNESS
    Anyone see this?

    It may mean they’ve allowed the state to present their counter to the surrebuttal defense witness.

    If you noticed the docket listing for 4/23/2013 there was a “MOTION TO PRECLUDE STATE’S REBUTTAL WITNESS.” That would seen to indicate the state asked for it’s own rebuttal witness (that was Dr. Janine) to testify again, and the request may have been granted.

    A few days ago I posted an Arizona news report that said two surrebuttal witnesses were testifying — thinking it may have been a misprint. But maybe they knew something and the report was accurate. Wednesday may be another point, counterpoint day.

    • Jay
      04/29/2013 at 6:29 pm

      And then again, it could mean the scope of the defense surrebuttal has been expanded.

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 7:20 pm

        It refers to what I posted upstairs (currently #441)

    • kCruz123
      04/29/2013 at 8:41 pm

      Jay, I read somewhere that the motion to preclude State’s rebuttal witnesses was filed in order to stop the testimony of several witnesses: Jacob Mefford and his wife, Wal-Mart rep, Tesoro rep, and maybe one or two others. This was filed prior to Defense Motion for Surrebuttal (I believe).

  122. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/29/2013 at 6:43 pm

    Syntara :
    I wanna know if she really went to Costa Rica or not… her answer to what she did there just doesn’t ring true.. she says..” I went to school there and did ‘extra cirriculum’ things on the weekend”.. who goes to a foreign country and remembers their spare time with the family they stay with as extra cirrcula activities? seriously.. you remember far far more than that.. take it from someone who has travelled a LOT… you say what you did.. you don’t call it extra curriculum activites ffs! Everything.. everything she says is just sooo off!
    sheesh.. could say.. I went to xxxx and went to school and did extra cirriulum thiings on the weekend. Aside from it likely not being true…. when did she very first mention this trip? anyone know? In court or in the interrogation vids?

    This is from our vague memory that comes and goes, but we think we remember hearing the mother say something in her interview tape with Det. Flores. Only problem is that we remember hearing it in one of the snipits that HLN played when the tapes were first released. We’ve tried to find the full unedited videos of the parents with Det. Flores on Boob Tube but everything we see are the snipits only. There was one thing we heard the father say on the HLN snipit about JA peeking through his windows at his home, but we can’t find that snipit either.

    • 04/29/2013 at 11:07 pm

      gah!! CC’sC those vids of the parents are really an important piece in this. I am surprised David Lohr or Croakerqueen (boob tube references) don’t have the whole interviews.

      What I am thinking is whichever TV show had the whole vids is hanging on to them for the time being.. and because the release of more stuff has been put on hold until the trial ends others can’t get hold of copies.

      Sound possible?

      • Douglme
        04/30/2013 at 1:42 am

        It is on Nancy Grace right now!

  123. 04/29/2013 at 6:56 pm

    Jay :

    Cats :

    Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
    4/27/2013 NOT – Notice – Party (001) 4/29/2013
    NOTE: NOTICE OF ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY RE: SURREBUTTAL WITNESS
    Anyone see this?

    It may mean they’ve allowed the state to present their counter to the surrebuttal defense witness.
    If you noticed the docket listing for 4/23/2013 there was a “MOTION TO PRECLUDE STATE’S REBUTTAL WITNESS.” That would seen to indicate the state asked for it’s own rebuttal witness (that was Dr. Janine) to testify again, and the request may have been granted.
    A few days ago I posted an Arizona news report that said two surrebuttal witnesses were testifying — thinking it may have been a misprint. But maybe they knew something and the report was accurate. Wednesday may be another point, counterpoint day.

    Do you think this process could extend beyond Wed.? Do you think Judge Stephens will hold them to conclusion of this process by Wed? She will have to place limitations on the defense as they usually r long winded.

  124. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/29/2013 at 7:16 pm

    Syntara :
    hahahaha omg anyone seen these jury questions to her recently?

    ha ha ha ha…..our favorite will always be:

    “Have you sought medical care for your mental condition?”

    JA…..DUH….!!

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 7:28 pm

      In my top 5 will always be…. “You said transient global amnesia can be caused by sexual intercourse, immersion in hot or cold water, and a number of other things. Is the list you presented all-inclusive or could it also be caused by something such as the trauma associated with getting a bad haircut, for example?”

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 7:30 pm

        Makes me think JA’s amnesia (FOG) was brought on by her horrific wispy (spider leg) bangs….

  125. Tracey A
    04/29/2013 at 8:19 pm

    Greetings all!!! Been in and out the past couple of days so I have tons of reading to do…typical. But I happened upon this police incident report of Travis’ tires being slashed that I hadn’t see before.

    • 04/29/2013 at 10:32 pm

      oh thanks Trace!!!

  126. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 8:33 pm

    Hi Tracey – Thanks for posting the logged info on the call Travis placed to the police regarding the slashed tires!

    Look at what Geffner does for big $$$$ – He is lower than pond scum.

    GenevieveMDowe April 27, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    WOW… Dr. Geffner, [LaToilette’s buddy, who will appear for Hodi Jodi, on behalf of the defense, next Wednesday] apparently testified as an expert, in another case, on behalf of a monster, the appellant, Eric Charles Nenno, who raped and choked to-death a 7 year old girl, and claimed NOT TO REMEMBER doing it!!!

    Texas NENNO v. STATE

    Eric Charles NENNO, Appellant, v. The STATE of Texas

    No. 72313. — June 24, 1998

    Interesting, “The facts of the present offense were egregious.   Appellant raped and choked to death a seven-year-old girl…”, but since Nenno was convicted, he naturally, was appealing the verdict; just as Hodi Jodi will, assuming that she is convicted.

    From the document:– “In cross-examining Dr. Robert Geffner, one of appellant’s expert witnesses, the prosecutor attempted to introduce into evidence a document made by a colleague of Dr. Geffner.   The document was an interview with appellant and was one of the materials relied upon by Dr. Geffner in formulating his expert opinion…  

    PROSECUTOR:  Didn’t you tell us that as part of your evaluation that he said that he didn’t remember anything about this offense after it happened?

    WITNESS [Dr. Geffner]:    In the interview, yes.   Pretty much so.

    PROSECUTOR:  That he didn’t even remember where the body was placed?

    Defense counsel objected, the trial court sustained the objection, and, upon appellant’s request, instructed the jury to disregard the contents of the document.   Appellant’s mistrial motion was denied.”

    Another case, where this scum-of-the-earth murderer, like butcher Jodi Arias, claimed NOT TO REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR CRIME!!! Nice, guy, Dr. Geffner, huh…

    [Source: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/tx-court-of-criminal-appeals/1130950.html ]
    Reply ↓

    • Tracey A
      04/29/2013 at 8:41 pm

      Hiya Nancy – How’ve you been Girl?? I’ve been spending more time researching stuff as I try to get caught up and I found this interesting little tidbit on Geffner and ALV.

      • Tracey A
        04/29/2013 at 8:47 pm

        Sorry Nancy. My internet connection dropped out. I forgot the link from my last post.

        Try this…

        tinyurl.com/caqdkyt

      • Tracey A
        04/29/2013 at 8:49 pm

        Dang it! One more time…

        http://t.co/3Tjd8NjZbu

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 8:54 pm

        Thanks–very interesting. So they’ve been sidekicks a long time -this was from 2000.

  127. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 8:49 pm

    Syntara :
    omg I know why she brought that 9mm she just told us!! accidentally of course!

    WHY???

  128. Tracey A
    04/29/2013 at 8:58 pm

    NancyB :
    Thanks–very interesting. So they’ve been sidekicks a long time -this was from 2000.

    No kidding! Can you believe that??? They go way back apparently.

  129. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 9:39 pm

    I didn’t know this but just read this on HLN and the defense succeeded.

    The defense wants to block Martinez from questioning bank employee Suzie Dittman about Arias’ bank account at the time of the killing. The defense is also trying to stop investigator Robert Brown from testifying about some photos he recovered from Arias’ phone. Judge Sherry Stephens heard arguments Wednesday during a closed door meeting with both the defense and the prosecution about whether these witnesses should be allowed to testify. It is not clear how the judge ruled on whether the witnesses will testify.

    http://157.166.224.238/article/2013/04/24/can-arias-defense-thwart-martinezs-rebuttal

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 10:05 pm

      Hey Nancy- thanks for posting this:-) Why do you think the judge granted this? The bank accounts should have been valid! It had been previously discussed in others testimony? Not to mention the phone photos- I wonder if it was from the Helio? I’m so frustrated by this judge being OVERLY lenient for the Defense. Now I’m going to retract what I said earlier- of course the judge is going to allow a phD to contradict an ME- ugh!

  130. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 9:44 pm

    Forgot to say that Suzie Dittman is a fraud investigator for JP Morgan Chase.

  131. SeniorMoments
    04/29/2013 at 9:49 pm

    I was thinking that, in addition to trying to counter Dr DeMarte for Jodi’s sake, Geffner is being brought in to try to repair LaViolette’s professional reputation. As a longtime friend and colleague, he thinks he can help her out. Perhaps the DT even thought they “owed” it to her because her reputation is shattered and all the reviews of her book will certainly affect the sales. However, she did it to herself with her outrageously stubborn refusal to acknowledge her very obvious bias. It appears that Geffner has his own set of professionslism issues and I hope JM will expose the connection between the two as well as his cases being thrown out of court for the same kind of things! I am outraged at the thought that the DT might try to use his testimony to counter the ME’s testimony. That’s a HUGE reach!

    • 04/29/2013 at 10:40 pm

      I believe this extra psychologist is being brought in to cover for Perky’s deplorable cross where she exhibited total lack of knowledge on the most crucial subject.. the ONLY subject of her own case.

      I do not see why, just because she couldn’t be bothered researching what is her whole defense, she should have the opportunity to be bailed out.

      Not that she will be becasue Juan will rip this guy to shreds if even 10% of what I have seen on him is true.

      • NancyB
        04/29/2013 at 10:45 pm

        Hey Syn,

        Syntara :
        “omg I know why she brought that 9mm she just told us!! accidentally of course! ”

        WHY???

  132. Katie
    04/29/2013 at 9:51 pm

    I’m watching Dr. Drew and Chris Hughes…the story he told about Jodi is so scary..i just don’t understand how Travis would have anything to do with Jodi after all she did to him and his good friends warned him about her…Why didn’t he just kick her out of his house that day …I know he can only answer this but it just so bothers me..

    • 04/29/2013 at 10:45 pm

      see below.

  133. C.I,
    04/29/2013 at 9:53 pm

    Hi all and good evening,

    I’m watching Dr. Drew and he has Chris Hughes on and tomorrow will be Sky Hughes and he tells us what he actually meant in the emails that LaLa and and Wingnut referenced so often. A must to see.

  134. 04/29/2013 at 9:53 pm

    NancyB :
    tupelomz – I don’t think she ever *admitted* to where she parked. Det Flores asked her at least twice in the interrogation vids about this but she never gave any answer is what I remember.

    kCruz if you are still here I answered your question upstairs. Howdy neighbor!

  135. Ci Ci's Circle
    04/29/2013 at 9:54 pm

    C.I, :
    Thank you Nancy for clarifying the for me – I thought it was the bar/restaurants computer.

    It is the bar’s computer she used to use. She used to access her Facebook, email, and her other accounts she had from their computer while she was there. You’ll read that in his statement on the Dr. Drew show.

    • C.I.
      04/29/2013 at 10:25 pm

      Thank you CiCi I will pull that vid up.

    • NancyB
      04/30/2013 at 12:14 am

      Thanks CCc! You are correct.

  136. 04/29/2013 at 9:54 pm

    😳 wrong quote sheesh 😳
    will try again

  137. Family of Law
    04/29/2013 at 9:56 pm

    Dr. Drew just had Chris Hughs on- He told a story about the night JA spent in their home. In the late hours they took Travis into their room to talk to him about their serious concerns about Travis dating JA. (JA was supposed to have been asleep). Skye sensed that JA was listening outside the door, so they changed the subject- then JA knocks on the door! So Travis opens it, she asks, “is everything ok?”. Travis says yes, and tells her he’ll be down soon. Another hour goes by, they’re back to discussing their fears about JA, once again Skye senses that JA is listening in- Travis bolts off the bed and opens the door… There she was! Chris H said the look on JA’s face was the most frightening evil thing he’d ever seen!!!! They actually considered getting their kids in their room because they wondered if they were safe with that kind of evil in their house! The next day is when Skye kicked her out of the house, after telling her off- JA went and sat at the kitchen table staring at her, then without a word, got up and left. CREEP FACTOR off the charts!

    • Katie
      04/29/2013 at 10:11 pm

      This is exactly why I can’t understand Why Javis would have anything to do with Jodi..

      • 04/29/2013 at 10:25 pm

        Katie, it is not that cut and dried.

        Master manipulators know how to manipulate. They get into your head. It’s not called psychological and emotional abuse for nothing.

        They use fear, conniving, lying, projected personas. It’s all one sided psychological warfare and the target doesn’t even realise there is a battle for their mind in play.

        I am glad you don’t understand it, that proves it’s never happened to you and I pray it never does.

      • Katie
        04/29/2013 at 10:26 pm

        so sorry should have said Travis

  138. 04/29/2013 at 9:59 pm

    kCruz123 :
    You live in your namesake? I’m from Starkville.

    Yes kCruz we are practically neighbors I answered your question upstairs before I totally goofed and embarrassed myself 😀

  139. 04/29/2013 at 10:19 pm

    kristin :
    Hi syn! I asked before but didn’t catch your answer before link closed out. Is lying a characteristic of persons w BPD? Thank u:)

    Kristin I went back and found my answer to you on the original day:

    04/26/2013 at 3:19 pm | #382
    No. Which is another reason I think this does true BPD suffers a disservice. While like any part of society they can be liars it is not part of the diagnosis criteria and some BPD sufferers are not liars

    Also up stairs.. you asked (paraphrased) “did she push the butt sex plug cos she thought men wanted it?”

    Yep…. that is EXACTLY why she was so into anal. To manipulate them and be a slut for them and do things other women wouldn’t so they keep/kept coming back to her.

  140. 04/29/2013 at 10:43 pm

    by the way good morning everyone… well good whatever it is for you at the moment 😛

  141. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 10:49 pm

    Syn are you here???

    • 04/29/2013 at 10:53 pm

      ya ya see below to you 😀

  142. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 10:51 pm

    Nurmi Deceives Chris Hughes

    Chris Hughes post on The State vs Jodi Arias ~ Travis Alexander murder trial

    April 7, 2013 at 2:28am · ..OK, so I have been pretty quiet through this trial…so far. We have decided to not do any media until after the trial is over. We had no idea how hard that commitment would be to keep as we had underestimated the attack that would be made on Travis. But we made it, so we will keep it. That said, there are a few things I need to clear up that are floating around on the net…..

    IT (Jodi), being IT, came up with a whole new set of lies in 2010. Lies, I would imagine, she is going to try to work into this trial, as she fights for her life. I didn’t think she would attempt to do this as there is no evidence as to the validity of these claims. There are only letters conjured by IT that were thrown out of court and deemed “fraudulent.” I just figured she, and everyone on her team, had given up on these ridiculous claims until I read the posts below:

    “It also makes you wonder just how much Chris & Sky Hughes really knew about TA’s child addiction (and the physical/verbal abuse he inflicted upon Jodi in private). Remember Sky’s initial reaction to one of TA’s letters too, where she specifically referenced TA’s age of attraction?” and “(& subsequent cover-up of TA’s abuse & child porn-related issues) by Chris & Sky Hughes.”

    UNBELIEVABLE! Are people really this delusional? This info is from fake letters…too fake even for the National Enquirer to run with! That is saying something! Some of you heard me call Nurmi a liar. It was related to these claims. He had LIED to my wife. He emailed her a letter, telling her it was “100% verified to be Travis’ writing” and that there was “irrefutable evidence” backing up these claims. #1- It’s near impossible to verify something 100%. AND it is absolutely impossible to even come close if there is no original (which we later found there is not). #2- There is no, and never has been “irrefutable evidence” to back up these claims. He totally lied! Sky’s reaction to what Nurmi sent her had ZERO to do with Travis and his character, and EVERYTHING to do with Nurmi’s lies and manipulative tactics and her experiences working with sexually abused kids. The ONLY reason Sky even went there, as far as Travis was concerned, was because Nurmi told her there was “irrefutable evidence,” and to us, the only thing irrefutable would be video tapes. We had NO IDEA that it was legal for the defense attorney to lie about evidence to try to sway someone’s testimony (we had been subpoenaed to testify in a hearing the following week). Unbelievably unethical in my opinion.

    I just wanted everyone to be aware of this, because I’m guessing Jodi, being the shamelessly evil person she is, is going to make these asinine claims! Here is what we know about Jodi… and it is truly “irrefutable.” Jodi lies…and lies… and lies… it’s just what she does, and who she is. She has done it from the beginning, and we can expect more of it until this trial is over. To expect anything other than lies from Jodi would be naive at best. Travis is not, and never has been, a pedophile. And only the most despicable of human beings would accuse someone of being such, knowing they are not. There is nothing worse.
    This entry was posted in Uncategorized and tagged Chris Hughes, jodi arias trial, lies., Nurmi, Travis Alexander on April 7, 2013.

    • 04/29/2013 at 11:00 pm

      Everything.. EVERYTHING on the defenses side is lies. I’d love us all to come up with a list of things that are true. Just to see if we can actually come up with one thing…. seriously can we?

      Keeping in mind all the stuff Jodi now says about going to Mesa was originally I didn’t go or the ninjas… so all that can’t be thought of as truth either. Well not to me. just cos there are little bits that have been forced out of her doesn’t count in my mind.

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 11:26 pm

        The ONLY defense statement that I can come up with that’s true is, “Yes, Jodi Arais lied”. That’s it, I’m stumped for another. Oh wait, “Travis called her a 3 hole wonder and skank, and said she was the worst thing that ever happened to him”. Um… Syn, still biting nails, waiting to hear 9mm theory…

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:27 pm

        hahah see my reply to Nancy.. and if you still want to know I will tell you … 😛

    • Allison
      04/29/2013 at 11:08 pm

      I want to know why Chris &/or Sky Hughes were not called by Martinez to the stand???

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:26 pm

        I think they had enough I sure would have. Would you want to face Nurmi again? I wouldn’t and I havent even been lied to by him like they have.

        He called Nurmi a liar.. he told nurmi he knew the letters were fake and Nurmi did NOT deny it. So Nurmi admitted by ommission he knew the letters were fake.

        That’s enough.

    • 04/30/2013 at 2:08 am

      I’m concerned that the Hughes’ weren’t called in the Rebuttal case to tell the jury the true nature if these emails. They’ve been referenced ad nauseam. I don’t think it should be left hanging out there undisputed.

  143. 04/29/2013 at 10:51 pm

    NancyB :
    Hey Syn,
    Syntara :
    “omg I know why she brought that 9mm she just told us!! accidentally of course! ”
    WHY???

    but but but Nance it’s kinda mundane and I don’t wanna poop all over the “who did she buy it to kill” theory.. because I think she would have used it again… I just now know why she brought it in an entirely different way…. and the clue is in her answering the jury questions.

    I will tell you.. but I’m gonna warn you.. it’s not going to be what everyone is hoping for!

    • Family of Law
      04/29/2013 at 11:33 pm

      Ack! That’s not an answer.

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:37 pm

        LOL ok I need to clarifications first

        1. Anyone know when she purchased the 9mm?
        2. How much does a 9mm cost? Would it be cheaper than a 25mm?

      • Family of Law
        04/29/2013 at 11:50 pm

        Ok-
        1. a rarer .25 caliber can be as much as $1000 an new one is around $300.
        2. 9mm have a big range- but say The average is around $600-$900.
        3. She says she bought the gun to go on the camping trip (after killing Travis, before being arrested)

        Ball hit back to you…

  144. Chrissie A
    04/29/2013 at 10:56 pm

    Trace showing the love for Verizon 😛

    • 04/29/2013 at 11:01 pm

      LOL!!!!! perfect!!!

      • 04/29/2013 at 11:02 pm

        gonna have a whole wall collage soon!

    • Douglme
      04/30/2013 at 2:00 am

      LOL…cute!

  145. NancyB
    04/29/2013 at 11:07 pm

    tupelomz :
    Thanks Nancy I had not heard that in the interview I just thought I recalled her saying it in testimony.
    kCruz Howdy neighbor! We live in Houston and hubby works in Tupelo. Small small world
    huh? Btw I luv luv me some MSU. Big fan have on my State jogging pants as we speak
    I am a transplant from Arkansas and gotta say luv my HOGS too.

    Ohhh – You are right! I forgot that she said on direct that she parked in the driveway BUT it was just another lie. No way did she park in the driveway because the roommate & neighbors would have seen her car.

  146. 04/29/2013 at 11:18 pm

    Agreed… No way did she park in the driveway… no point changing her hair colour if she parks in the drive way.. and lots more reasons but at the moment I’m leaving it there.

  147. 04/29/2013 at 11:39 pm

    This trial is about truth vs lies.

    It’s the US justice system on trial here.

    • 04/29/2013 at 11:41 pm

      what is playing out in this trial is a man of integrity, honour and truth vs sleazy lying manipulation.

      I hope,for the sake of the US justice system – the former wins.

      • 04/30/2013 at 12:02 am

        that goes for Travis Vs Jodi

        AND

        Juan Martinez vs the DT

        It’s a classic good vs evil and if evil wins that’s an indictment on the system. A justice system where lies prevail is not a justice system by any definition.

      • NancyB
        04/30/2013 at 12:11 am

        I totally agree. That’s why sooooo many people have said that if evil wins out this time that many of us will lose ultimate confidence in our justice system. I will NEVER understand why the Fraud Investigator was prevented from proving that Jodi was stealing $$$ from Travis.

      • 04/30/2013 at 12:14 am

        ya.. Nance I added to this too below… cos Im not saying this can only happen in the US. I just wanted to make that clear..

  148. Family of Law
    04/29/2013 at 11:56 pm

    Alert: WAY OFF TOPIC But just saw this and it hit my funny bone BIG time

    • Douglme
      04/30/2013 at 2:04 am

      😆

  149. NancyB
    04/30/2013 at 12:08 am

    Dr. Robert Geffner, University President…

    Dr. Robert Geffner is the President of Alliant International University’s Institute on Violence, Abuse and Trauma. Sounds impressive…until you read the reviews of this establishment from students:

    Some excerpts:

    From “gradaiu”: “It’s difficult to write a review… I’m in the computer lab and the computers are about 7 years old. Most of the Professors are too busy to give you the time of day. A lot of the Professors are graduates of the school who couldn’t get a job anywhere else. Most of the classes are in portables. …going here…it’s $40,000 a year. Students aren’t here to learn they are here to pay tuition. I went into my program with an open heart and an eagerness for my subject and this school could have cared less.”

    Bette (Who re-located from Texas to San Diego): “I have never been more miserable in my life. It’s overpriced and the faculty and staff only seem concerned about $ and getting their names out there.”

    AiuScrewU: The professors literally do not have any impressive backgrounds, unless you are sincerely interested in over-diagnosis, and criminal justice- if you believe sick criminals can be completely rehabilitated and can live in your neighborhood free of government pressure, then this is the place for you. Alliant Int. University is officially a scam…”

    Unhappy @Alliant: “I don’t know whether I am more annoyed at choosing this university over others, or at the marketing dept for putting up false reviews.”
    Valerie Christine: (She wrote an extremely interesting long version of complaints you may want to check out.) “For your own sake AVOID this school…do what it takes to get into a REAL school.”

    I looked at over 62 reviews. There are several good reviews, but the majority are scathing. Check it out for yourself at:

    http://www.collegetimes.tv/alliant-international-university-san-diego/#reviews
    About these ads

    http://mixedbagblog.com/2013/04/30/dr-robert-geffner-university-president/

  150. 04/30/2013 at 12:13 am

    I hope we never have a case like this here in Aus…. because if we do and if the DT won nobody would have any faith at all in our justice system. We are lucky so far there has not been such a case.

    • Chrissie A
      04/30/2013 at 12:39 am

      What about this case in Australia – the accused, a female stabbed her male partner 39 times:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Knight

      The Arias case only seems more outrageous as it is televised and the media are heavily invested in it – I’m sure the same would happen in any country.

      Interesting Australian crime info, scroll down the page for murderers and serial killers:
      http://aussiecriminals.com.au/convicted-of-serious-crime-list/

      • Chrissie A
        04/30/2013 at 12:40 am

        ~ugh~ in moderation.. 2 links Sorry Donchais 😦

    • Chrissie A
      04/30/2013 at 12:43 am

      What about this case in Australia – the accused, a female stabbed her male partner 39 times:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Knight

      • 04/30/2013 at 12:45 am

        yeah but she is convicted.. I was saying where the DT won based on all lies being presented. She’s in jail if you read that article.

      • Chrissie A
        04/30/2013 at 12:50 am

        I read the article otherwise I wouldn’t have posted it. The way I read your comment was “I hope we never have a case like this in Australia, because if we do and the DT won…” it eluded to the point that you have never had a case like that in Australia, regardless of the outcome.

      • 04/30/2013 at 12:51 am

        this is in relation to my earlier post to NancyB. it is in relation to the truth vs lies aspect. I think you hve misconstrued my post.

    • Chrissie A
      04/30/2013 at 12:45 am

      2nd part of message in moderation:

      The Arias case only seems more outrageous as it is televised and the media are heavily invested in it – I’m sure the same would happen in any country.
      Interesting Australian crime info, scroll down the page for murderers and serial killers:

      http://aussiecriminals.com.au/convicted-of-serious-crime-list/

      • 04/30/2013 at 12:50 am

        no idea what you are referring to Chrissie.

      • 04/30/2013 at 12:54 am

        Chrissie refer first part of this posting above FOLs video post its a continuation of that

  151. NancyB
    04/30/2013 at 12:16 am

    Syntara :
    hahah see my reply to Nancy.. and if you still want to know I will tell you …

    YES YES YES I even went back to the juror questions for her but still stumped!

    • 04/30/2013 at 12:21 am

      hahaha ok.. I will try to find it so I can reference it too. It’s kind of so off the wall i feel like I need a heap of back up! 😀 bear with me! I won’t forget you!

      • Moon
        04/30/2013 at 12:44 am

        can i guess? lol …

        hellooooo evbodeeeee

      • 04/30/2013 at 12:45 am

        lol course.. go ahead..

      • Moon
        04/30/2013 at 1:05 am

        wellllll ok… i’m prob wayyyyyy off where you are going with this….

        during the intero with flores, and even tho she is as smart as einstein…pffft….she seemed ‘shocked’ that they were able to determine a 25 cal was used. well we know she was planning another get away and we know that IF she used the gun first she wasn’t happy with the result… so she wasn’t about to buy or deal with another 25 cal. her dad thought she was leaving that day to go see Matt and Darrelll. He said he even helped her load the rental car with their belongings. i think she enjoyed killing (clearly) and would have done it again (and will do it again IF she’s ever let out of prison. but i think bottom line is if she “had” to kill again she didn’t want to be bothered wwith the mess that a knife leaves. quicker, faster will get the job done, in and out of there. what a twisted *fk*

      • 04/30/2013 at 1:07 am

        ya that is probably why she chose the gun she did

      • Moon
        04/30/2013 at 1:26 am

        wellllllllll i still want to know what your thinking on this is!! please indulge us! 😕

  152. NancyB
    04/30/2013 at 12:26 am

    WOW !

    Dr. Robert Geffner is the President of Alliant International University’s Institute on Violence, Abuse and Trauma. Sounds impressive…until you read the reviews of this establishment from students:

    Some excerpts:

    From “gradaiu”: “It’s difficult to write a review… I’m in the computer lab and the computers are about 7 years old. Most of the Professors are too busy to give you the time of day. A lot of the Professors are graduates of the school who couldn’t get a job anywhere else. Most of the classes are in portables. …going here…it’s $40,000 a year. Students aren’t here to learn they are here to pay tuition. I went into my program with an open heart and an eagerness for my subject and this school could have cared less.

    Bette (Who re-located from Texas to San Diego): “I have never been more miserable in my life. It’s overpriced and the faculty and staff only seem concerned about $ and getting their names out there.”

    AiuScrewU: The professors literally do not have any impressive backgrounds, unless you are sincerely interested in over-diagnosis, and criminal justice- if you believe sick criminals can be completely rehabilitated and can live in your neighborhood free of government pressure, then this is the place for you. Alliant Int. University is officially a scam…”

    Unhappy @Alliant: “I don’t know whether I am more annoyed at choosing this university over others, or at the marketing dept for putting up false reviews.”
    Valerie Christine: (She wrote an extremely interesting long version of complaints you may want to check out.) “For your own sake AVOID this school…do what it takes to get into a REAL school.”

    I looked at over 62 reviews. There are several good reviews, but the majority are scathing. Check it out for yourself at:

    http://www.collegetimes.tv/alliant-international-university-san-diego/#reviews

    • 04/30/2013 at 12:36 am

      LOLOL! oh is he even worse than the other two??? Can’t wait for this surreal-buttal! I’m gonna have full bottle of vodka ready for it.. I’m going to be spending a LOT of time down the rabbit hole I can just feel it!

  153. NancyB
  154. 04/30/2013 at 12:43 am

    You don’t let someone tie you up who is abusive to you.. You just DON”T. That’s an act based on total trust. Psychologically that is a huge boo boo she made saying he tied her up that day.. It screams she trusted him not that he abused her.

    (aside from the fact I don’t believe it.. I’m just saying it’s actually so stupid she made that up because logically is proves she was NOT afraid of him.)

    She is sooo stupid she doesn’t even realise the ramifications of what she says because she has such a low EQ.

    • NancyB
      04/30/2013 at 12:52 am

      Ohhh – how right you are! I had not thought of that simple glaring fact staring me right in the face. I imagine her EQ is subnormal or in the minus #’s.

  155. Chrissie A
    04/30/2013 at 12:54 am

    Syntara :
    no idea what you are referring to Chrissie.

    Thought that you were U.S. bashing again 🙂

    • 04/30/2013 at 12:58 am

      huh?

    • 04/30/2013 at 1:03 am

      4/30/2013 12:54am

      Syntara :
      ya.. Nance I added to this too below… cos Im not saying this can only happen in the US. I just wanted to make that clear..

  156. 04/30/2013 at 1:24 am

    It’s been fun everyone… I hope the verdict comes down as well all pray it does!

    I meant nothing by my comment except to say this trial is about truth and lies but obviously my comment was way over the top in a way I had no idea it could be interpreted.

    I sincerely apologise if I upset anyone.

    ****waves**** bye all 😀

  157. NancyB
    04/30/2013 at 1:24 am
  158. NancyB
    04/30/2013 at 1:48 am

    Her “ART” is FAKE! Taken from print ads!

    Justice4Travis ‏@Justice4Travis1 8h

    As reported here first: Arias ‘original art’ dubbed fake! Thanks RadarOnline for helping to get the word out. http://fb.me/1yxOjAL3z

    https://twitter.com/courtjesterias/status/329093142513086466/photo/1

  159. Chrissie A
    04/30/2013 at 1:50 am

    Syntara :
    This trial is about truth vs lies.
    It’s the US justice system on trial here.

    ok fine but I am still unclear how that relates to my point. but ok I am sure you have your reasons for showing this stuff.

    Syn, see your comment above regarding the U.S. justice system? – This relates to my comment about this trial being televised, live streamed and a mainstream media. topic. I was merely pointing out that this could and will happen in any country – I used Australia as you later stated that it had never happened there. First I pointed out the crimes in Australia, then a case where a murderer has been set free. (And there are a few more that I didn’t list) I don’t see how you feel that you have upset anyone,(if this post is what you are referring to) I was merely pointing out a few facts in response to your statements.

  160. Kristy
    04/30/2013 at 1:51 am

    Syntara :
    hahah see my reply to Nancy.. and if you still want to know I will tell you …

    I’ve been on pins and needles waiting to hear the answer..

    I’ll guess and you can tell me if I’m hot, warm, or cold. I’m thinking Jodi planned to hit the road and hook to get $$$. She would need protection I would assume. It seems that 25 mm can be more expensive than 9 mm glocks if that is what she bought. Where did she get all that cash for such a cash strapped person, or did she just max out her credit cards?

    Her story of going camping with a bunch of guys who would be drinking was quite disturbing. Not in of itself, but given that she’d just killed Travis, that makes it bizarre. She did admit on the stand she bought it to protect herself, rather than think of suicide. Kinda shot herself in the foot over that one.

    I was so creeped out over Jodi’s testimony where she said she’d never killed someone before. It sent shivers up my spine, as if she was taunting folks by saying, I did it and I got the taste for it.

    I also wouldn’t be surprised if she didn’t have another target in mind, but I lean towards the hooking aspect. After all, my understanding is that the place she worked at where she met Darryl Brewer was an adults only resort. I wonder why that wasn’t brought up by Juan. Maybe I missed it in the testimony, but that would have been bad for Jodi.

    I’ve rambled, but would like to know why you think she bought the 9mm.

  161. donchais
    04/30/2013 at 2:11 am

    I’m gettin those good vibrations…good, good, good, good vibrations!

    https://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/jodi-arias-murder-trial-day-fifty-four-discussion-continues-3/

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