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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Fifty-Four, Discussion Continues, 4

05/01/2013

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donchais

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  1. Jill
    05/01/2013 at 11:23 am

    Ty again syn! I am hooked on your website! You are an encyclopedia of knowledge! I don’t know if I’ll be able to pull myself away from your blogs to go watch the trial today! You are an amazing writer! Ty for sharing that with me! Take care, jill

    • 05/01/2013 at 11:34 am

      pfft Jill.. 😳 I am rarely happy with anything i write.. but thank you anyway! I have so much more I want to get up on there.. so much I want re-written… it’s just in it’s infancy.. Jodistein gives me so much to work with. Once the trial is over I can finish the vids and get into the actually trial and the cast.. which I’m really looking forward to. I have to get back to my work too so that will slow it down. I have a feeling it will turn into a never ending story!

      Anyway… thanks so much for your encouragement though, I really appreciate it. {{{hugs}}}

      • Anonymous
        05/01/2013 at 12:03 pm

        Ur very talented!if I knew half of what u do, I’d b a genius! Hugs back to u!

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:00 pm

        Thanks Again Donchais for all you do.
        Syntara… I was so happy to see you again this morning. Like.Jill ^^ i have garnered so. Much from your,posts. ,logical unbiased opinions and information so pertinent to helping us. Understand JAs personality.
        I found your Blog today as well. Very helpful and eye opening.its great read i read the post on
        video. 2. It was Eye opening. JodispeaK in layman’s terms.
        I always feel inarticulate when I’ try,to post on these blog sand do,so hesitantly but I want Ed to express my appreciation for your insights.
        I’m also on my ipad and trying to,use a,double browser. As. a result I’m having a couple problems typing. Or it could simply be another example of my stupidity. After all I spent a day reading comments and trying to reply but there was no reply button I could find. Came to find out the comments were closed and another thread had been started.. Live and learn. But as CiCi says That’s what “old hens” do best. 🙂

      • Gracerv7
        05/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

        I followed the link you posted and checked out your blog as well. It was late so I wasn’t able to really get into yet but am looking forward to reading everything. While I am here on donchais’ site most often I love finding new sites dedicated to Justice for Travis.

      • Anonymous
        05/01/2013 at 1:53 pm

        Can you give the link for yr blog. I will love to follow. You are amazing.TY

  2. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 11:27 am

    Hi Syn- saw your .25 auto questions- Maybe this will help?

    • 05/01/2013 at 11:42 am

      ok.. I reckon she brought the 9mm so soon after the murder for one reason.. get more familiar with guns.

      Then Moon’s post comes into play… ie she probably had some vague idea who she might go after next… but it would have been too soon for her to do so immediately. Her answers on the stand showed she knew very little about guns although she tried to make it sound like she knew more than she did… yeah of course doesn’t she always make out she’s an ‘expert’ in everything.. just look at that list of ‘interests’ on her blog… quantum physics… riiiiiight!!! jenius.

      I think her #1 primary motive for buying that gun was to learn how to use it.

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 11:56 am

        Phew! And…..there it is!!!!!! Thank you! That JA really is a girl who seeks “continuing Ed”- Note to self: must learn more about “Quantum Physics” and “firearms”.
        I was rewatching the Dad’s interrogation (I can’t find vid of it in its entirety, just pieced together clips). When Det. Flores is talking with him, the Dad is referencing the 9mm- he said when he asked JA about it- she told him that she NEEDED it, where she was going- and would only be gone a few days. Her testifying on the stand that she bought it to feel safe on a camping trip with all men- wtf? Who in the heck states in court, that they’d willingly put themselves in a situation that may require shooting someone? Seriously?

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 12:01 pm

        Did you watch the .25 auto YouTube? This particular model showed that you had to “rack the slide” in order to put a bullet in the chamber.

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:08 pm

        yeah.. I reckon the bullets were already in there…. don’t you?

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:06 pm

        see FOL, this is yet another example of her sociopathy/psychopathy This is NOT associated with BPD necessarily certainly not to the same extreme, mildly and in certain situations only. BPD is generally too much emotion.

        Her disorder shows no emotions attached to the words. Unless pointed out to her she is oblivious. It’s the same thing as not thinking about “Oh they are going to wonder why I didn’t go for help after I escaped from the ninjas”. It just doesn’t enter her mind until someone says “Why didn’t you go get him help then?”

        The idea of buying a gun to protect yourself on a voluntary camping trip after slaughtering someone you profess to love is quite ok to her. UNTIL it is pointed out.. “Well Jodi didn’t you want to stay away from guns considering what you had just done to Travis?”

        See what I’m trying to say? She totally lacks empathy because she simply doesn’t feel things the way we normally ordered humans do. This renders her an extremely low EQ, probably one that doesn’t even register unless she has had some kind of direction for the situation presented.

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 12:19 pm

        Yes, I SEE 👀 You have explained it all so well- Thank you! I really wish that Dr. D or Juan would have made this point loud and clear, that IF she suffered from PTSD after the murder, she would NOT have bought a 9mm- and would not have considered going camping with men.

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:58 pm

        Usually guns are indeed stored with a bullet already in the chamber. You only have to rack the slide when you first insert the whole magazine. Then you turn on the safety, and put the gun where you’d strategically be able to get to it in a home defense situation. A man with no kids would not need to keep a gun so far away on the top shelf of a closet. Another fact that makes no sense.

  3. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:27 am

    OMG I’ve been chatting away with my cleaning lady and playing with my dogs and I all of sudden realized court is half an hour away!!!! Get settled in folks it’s gonna be a long, long day 😉

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 11:32 am

      Hi mmd, Is it 9 or 9:30? I thought it was 9:30. Glad u posted that cuz I would have missed it starting!

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 11:38 am

        Now Jill 😯 what do you think? 😆 It’s scheduled for 9, but that will probably be late, then they’ll go into chambers, then they’ll start with a sidebar, then we’ll wait for the jury, then another sidebar! Just a normal day in the court of Judge Stephens! 😀

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 11:40 am

        Ok, Ty , I’ll b ready…wouldn’t want to miss any sidebars!

    • Anonymous
      05/01/2013 at 4:31 pm

      I just gave my Yorkie a bath, haircut and a blow dry and I just realized I haven’t missed a thing! 😜

  4. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:35 am

    Family of Law – I see ya received your book yesterday 😦 Mine is still bouncing around the country. Check this out. It’s back where is started 2 days ago. It missed it’s connection, then hit bad weather in Montreal, made it to New Brunswick but then went back to Ontario. UPS was here yesterday with another parcel not with the book I REALLY wanted. Not a happy camper today.

    Thankfully I’m tied up with court and too busy with my international friends for it anyway 😉

    Location Date Local Time Activity

    Mount Hope, ON, Canada 05/01/2013 5:52 Departure Scan
    Mirabel International Airport, QC, Canada 05/01/2013 3:00 Adverse weather conditions.
    Dieppe, NB, Canada 05/01/2013 3:36 Arrival Scan
    Mount Hope, ON, Canada 05/01/2013 0:12 Departure Scan
    04/29/2013 23:40 The scheduled connection was missed.
    Mount Hope, ON, Canada 04/29/2013 22:50 Arrival Scan
    Concord, ON, Canada 04/29/2013 22:06 Departure Scan
    04/29/2013 21:40 Origin Scan
    Canada 04/29/2013 16:05 Order Processed: Ready for UPS

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 11:45 am

      Now that I posted about my busy court schedule UPS just updated my book to

      Scheduled Delivery Updated To:
      Wednesday, 05/01/2013, By End of Day

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 12:04 pm

      Morning dear- yup, your book is currently doing a “book tour”! But of course, now that you that you’re busy with far more important matters, and people, it’s in a hurry to get to your door!

  5. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:39 am

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    AZ Republic Camera Man said people were waiting out front at 2am. Yeeeesh! #JodiArias

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 11:42 am

      Wow! I was thinking of driving down, but it sounds like I’d never get a seat.

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 11:48 am

        Jill I think that even on regular days when nothing exciting is happening they let in the lineup at 7:00 when the courthouse opens. Then they apparently wait in seats for hours and it’s first come first served. Don’t think there are very many spectator seats because of the family/friends/press so unless you camped out the night before I doubt if you would get in.

        It would be truly awesome to watch JM do his closing in person though, wouldn’t it!!!!!! 😀

      • Anonymous
        05/01/2013 at 12:07 pm

        Well, that scraps that idea! I’m only like eight hours away and I thought it would b surreal to b in the same room as jm and the dear family. But, it would feel very strange and creepy that Jodi would b there, too. I might end up being arrested and in contempt of court cuz I don’t think I could just sit there looking at her and not want to hurt her.

    • kCruz123
      05/01/2013 at 11:50 am

      Good morning everyone.

      MMD, I see WildAboutTrial says Juan is wearing gray suit and light blue tie today and just wanted to compliment your taste. Thanks for laying those clothes out for him this morning.

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 11:54 am

        It’s gonna be an important day so he wanted to look his best!!! Not that he could ever not………………… 😉

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:03 pm

      Morning everyone! 2a.m. Is a bit much although like you said MMD, it would be interesting to experience in person.

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:09 pm

        hi there Lisa

  6. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:49 am

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan just came out wearing a gray suit and light blue shirt with blue tie. He then walked back into the room beside me.

    Told ya all he looked spiffy! 🙂

  7. 05/01/2013 at 11:50 am

    Jill :
    Ok, Ty , I’ll b ready…wouldn’t want to miss any sidebars!

    ROFLMAO!!! *sarcasm alert* luv it!!!

  8. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:52 am

    OT

    (CNN) — Three additional suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing have been taken into custody, Boston police said Wednesday.

    A Department of Homeland security source with first-hand knowledge of the investigation, said two of them are students from New Bedford, Massachusetts. They have been arrested on charges of making false statements to investigators and conspiracy to obstruct justice.
    A third student had been arrested who is a U.S. citizen, the source said.

  9. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 11:55 am

    GOOOOOD Juanderful Day!!! Here’s hoping our May baskets are filled with a Unanimous GUILTY 1ST DEGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 11:55 am

      Here here 😀

  10. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:55 am

    So who will go first – Wurmi or JM??????

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:10 pm

      it’s not about sex is it? So Perky??

  11. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:57 am

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    They just lowered the large screen. No sign of the defense yet. Valerie has on a purplish-salmony top

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    The media section is filling out nicely, like my bellah after a proper Vegas vacation

  12. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 11:58 am

    Wow is there ever a lot of purple and shades of purple on the site right now 😯

  13. Darcy
    05/01/2013 at 12:02 pm

    I said to my 14 year old son (who is very aware of my trial obsession), “The judge said they’ll go as late as they have to in order to finish today…” to which he replied, “She’s lying.” LOL. Everyone has Judge Sherry’s number, don’t they? Even people who barely watch.

    I’m excited for the last day. Not so excited for another defense shyster. REALLY dreading listening to questioning from EITHER defense attorney (either slooow and excruciating or squealy and excruciating). Hoping that this “Dr” is as lame as his video and Juan can have some fun.

  14. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:02 pm

    OK we’re here and gathered. Let’s get this show on the road and get justice for Travis. Judge Stephens for once in your life, stick to your schedule or you will be sent to the naughty corner 😦 ➡ ➡

  15. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:04 pm

    sliiiding through the door into the room…, right before it closes for the start…. like you all, I didn’t want to miss a sidebar.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:05 pm

      😆

  16. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:04 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Actually, Flamenco has on quite a blingy cross around her neck now that I see it. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    DP Mitigation Specialist is in a bright red outfit that looks like she is about to perform a Flamenco dance. Minimal bling. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Willmott is here in a royal blue outfit with minimal bling. Nurmi is dark gray suit with all salmon shirt and tie! Nice Nurmi!

    • Darcy
      05/01/2013 at 12:07 pm

      Who dresses that guy? Is he married? Is his wife completely devoid of fashion sense? Come on, you KNOW you wouldn’t let your husband out of the house (let alone on TV) dressed that way. Some days I’m afraid I’m gonna have a seizure looking at those shirts!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 12:12 pm

        as bad as his sense of fashion is, I still think his posture and speed of talk (& thinking) is so dreadfull, that I’d excuse the shirts and sox if he could learn to sit up and speak a sentence in under 15 seconds.

  17. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:05 pm

    Where’s Nienna – she usually helps with the WAT style update????

  18. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:06 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Donavan, #JodiArias’ mother and grandmother just arrived. Donavan is wearing a stylish teal/light blue/salmonish shirt.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:13 pm

      Donoman stylish?? now there’s an oxymoron!!!

  19. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 12:06 pm

    I sure hope the Judge DOES allow Juan his sur surrebuttal… after all, the burden of proof is on the State, so they are supposed to have the right to end last. leave it to the Ho to want to have the last word.

    DO THE RIGHT THING JUDGE!

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:02 pm

      I SO agree with you! The State gets the last word, but teenager Jodi just can’t stand that. I really dislike this weak-ass Judge!

  20. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:06 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    #JodiArias has arrived in a white top with right sideswept bangs.. a few bangs do their own thing on the left though

  21. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:06 pm

    wonder what that “mitigation specialist” makes on her job? wonder if its a civil service job or a “consultant”…wonder if sh’e show cleavage today….

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:10 pm

      I think someone posted that they are independent contractors (who on occasion are known to show too much boobage in a court setting) 😦

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 12:14 pm

        I have to research this. What ‘s their background and training? How do they charge(“if you get DP, a 20% discount?)

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

      I’ve totally wondered that, too. What an easy job!

  22. Jo
    05/01/2013 at 12:09 pm

    I wonder if this new witness with have school friends in the gallery, giving him support and if he will be given a backrub to loosen him up for his confrontation with Juan.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 12:15 pm

      and wear a knapsack and leave glasses in the courtroom and leave your cell phone on and blabber?

    • Anonymous
      05/01/2013 at 12:16 pm

      Lol!

  23. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:09 pm

    Morning Lisa – yeah 2 is a bit much but then I might get my chance to actually give Wurmi’s chair the tiny push that I’ve been wanting to do since January!!!

  24. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 12:10 pm

    tick tock tick tock… hey JUDGE LOOK AT THE CLOCK!!! what time do you all think this will start?? so much for 9am

  25. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:12 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Flores and Juan almost match today in their gray suit and lavender, blue shirts and ties. #JodiArias Nurmi is reclinated

    lot of shades of purple today………….

  26. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:13 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Valerie just summoned Juan back to chambers. Flores follows along. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi and Willmott just went back into chambers. Juan is in the side room by me. Flores is at desk as is #JodiArias

    Jeepers, we haven’t even gotten to the sidebar yet but I see we are keeping to the chambers schedule!!!! (sarcasm alert)

  27. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:14 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Flamenco sits by #JodiArias and goes over the game plan. Spectators are let in, I see a bit o’ salmon.

    Gotta keep her entertained 😉

  28. Anonymous
    05/01/2013 at 12:14 pm

    Sorry Donchais…..I’m on my husbands iPad and my last few posts went to modertion and will have me as annonymous. I forgot that I’m not signed in to your site on this ipad. I will switch back to mine as soon as I get a little charge. Sorry, Jill

  29. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:15 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Attorneys are back in the courtroom. It’s a full house today folks! We await the judge and jury sans the Note Taker

    Guess all we need is the sidebar and we should be ready to go!!!

  30. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:17 pm

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    Court staff has added seats in aisles of #JodiArias courtroom to handle overflow.

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    #JodiArias courtroom left side packed with family and friends of #TravisAlexander as we await the final day of testimony in the #Arias trial

  31. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:17 pm

    ….and we’re off at 16 min after..

  32. 05/01/2013 at 12:17 pm

    ok here goes

    • LindaLou
      05/01/2013 at 12:18 pm

      Hi Syn, so glad you’re back. Missed ya.

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:20 pm

        😀 thank you

  33. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:17 pm

    wobo trying the Little Bo Peep look with ruffled shoulder

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:22 pm

      ohhhh little bo peep! was she abused by her sheep???

  34. 05/01/2013 at 12:18 pm

    jodi looks particularly piqued.. it’s the washed out white look again.

  35. 05/01/2013 at 12:18 pm

    JW with bald spot on full display today!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:19 pm

      she forgot her spray hair in a can 😉

  36. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:18 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi stands dereclinated, Willmott visits staple lady. Jury is on their way.

  37. 05/01/2013 at 12:18 pm

    oh it’s sketching day .. she has an array of her little pencils ready!

  38. 05/01/2013 at 12:19 pm

    I see no hands.

  39. 05/01/2013 at 12:19 pm

    Is Juan’s witness going to be allowed????

  40. 05/01/2013 at 12:19 pm

    whats the point of talking truth or vows of it with defense witnesses???

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:20 pm

      exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:21 pm

    What’s with the crusties from JA?

  42. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 12:21 pm

    wipe that fn smile off your face robert gefner… you LOOK like a total idiot.

  43. 05/01/2013 at 12:21 pm

    Syntara :
    hi there Lisa

    Hey Syn,
    Good morning to u! I just read the above about the abdominal slash. I wonder why this wasn’t brought up?? Maybe the roommate arriving home interrupted her from further horrific acts???

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:23 pm

      I think it was part of the earlier struggle he obviously partially fended it off cos it wasn’t deep just almost 6 inches across his stomach so it could be after she stabbed him in the heart and as he lunged at her before making it to the basin.

  44. 05/01/2013 at 12:22 pm

    what’s the story with this clown??

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:24 pm

      he’s full of shit

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:25 pm

        Aah! THAT’S what’s flowing outta his mouth! Thanks Syn!

  45. Darcy
    05/01/2013 at 12:22 pm

    Didn’t it take Jenny over a day just to get through ALV’s credentials? I nodded off for a few days – basically until cross examination.

  46. 05/01/2013 at 12:23 pm

    ….and license….and call yourself psychologist….and then your license…with the license of the license license!!!

  47. 05/01/2013 at 12:23 pm

    Drinking game word : License

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:25 pm

      lol… it’s gonna be all day of his CV a la the 45667 days of LaLa’s CV unlike Dr D who deliberately minimised her to what she felt was relevant.. she didn’t need to inflate it because it’s already very impressive.

  48. 05/01/2013 at 12:24 pm

    Looks like his mustache is stuck in his teeth!

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:26 pm

      lol.. he’s kinda weird to look at.. his mouth is just all wrong which is I think why he has that caterpilla crawling on his top lip.. to try to hide it.. it ain’t working.

  49. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:24 pm

    Alliant university…never heard of it
    Distinguished professor at a place he FOUNDED
    not listed among the gems of US education, folks!

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:25 pm

      Online for profit…I think!

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 12:32 pm

      Costs $40,000 annually. The student reviews for the PhD program were scathing!!!

  50. Lisa M
    05/01/2013 at 12:24 pm

    Well I’ve been taking a much-needed mental break from the trial during the hiatus but I just watched HLN and they re-aired Dr. Drew’s recent interviews with Chris (is it Chris?) and Sky Hughes and my blood pressure is now sky high! (No pun intended) Why can’t this be part of the evidence, the threats Jodi made to kill herself and that’s why Travis wouldn’t leave her. Okay that is hearsay I guess. But the eavesdropping and the fact that she faked a stalker and also the fact that Travis had threatened to reveal something about Jodi and that they think is the motive for his murder. They said that info is included in the email the defense has presented where Travis is calling Travis names. Also the fact that Sky and Chris were emailing Jodi that Travis wasnt good to women only to get rid of her, did they testify to that? It’s just so frustrating to hear about all this stuff and know it hasn’t come into trial.

    • Ginger
      05/01/2013 at 1:31 pm

      I agree it’s a shame we don’t get the full picture of what an obsessed stalker Jodi was 10 minutes of information from the Hugh’s really made the point crystal clear.

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:10 pm

      I’m still unclear as to whether the Hughes’ didn’t testify because the Judge didn’t allow it, or rather because JM chose not to call them. If the latter, I think it’s a huge mistake to leave that unrefuted when it can so easily be resolved.

  51. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:25 pm

    Sign this cracker up for a SEW-M conference! hes got that blowhard quality…see “accredited to put on training and CONTINUING units!!!! Perfect

  52. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:26 pm

    What do ya think JA is thinking Syn????????

  53. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:27 pm

    Wow! The Hughes, Travis’ ex. This is big!

  54. 05/01/2013 at 12:27 pm

    nooooo noo my feed is frozed!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 12:30 pm

      Of course HE’s PAID! A non profit is a reral trough!. No, he’s getting publicity that is worth more than the $2500 he would have earned Bimbo…”the university” bet these are the high rollers, heh? Bet tuition is a fortune!

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:31 pm

        well if its that one someone posted the reviews on.. think lala’s amazon reviews! things like.. whatever you do don’t come here go to a real college!

  55. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:27 pm

    like “founding” a university to get people to “learn” how to losethe points on the drivers license. Yeah,, ok always in Hawaai or on a cruise..”training” all that Govt $$$ all those continuing ed classes!

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:28 pm

      who cares about your work with judges…. we are talking about a psycho bpd sociopath schizoid who slaughtered her ex boyfriend in cold blood.. how many of THOSE have you dealt with????

  56. 05/01/2013 at 12:27 pm

    Aah….see the diff. All the DT ‘expert’ witnesses are obsessed with this conference stuff! Dr. D never had time for that! THAT’S how you can tell the clowns from the real experts!

  57. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 12:28 pm

    Someone wake me when he’s done. 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:29 pm

      What time on Monday would you like to be woken up, Wendy?

      • Wendy
        05/01/2013 at 12:30 pm

        Just wake me when mr Juanderful is up.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:30 pm

      How’s you mum today Wendy????

      • Wendy
        05/01/2013 at 12:32 pm

        I haven’t heard yet today. She got to her room late yesterday and was out of it. She’s an hour behind me so will be trying to get someone in a bit. Thanks for asking. 😀

      • Wendy
        05/01/2013 at 12:52 pm

        Just talked to my mom. She sounds great. Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:30 pm

      no.. you stay here with the rest of us.. we all have to suffer.. so do you!! 😛

  58. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:29 pm

    Poor gramma, looks like she’s being forced to be there – propped up. and Auntie has a slight smirk. MS looks like she’s ready to parteeeeeeee – what? This is serious.

  59. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:29 pm

    I see gramma is back in court.

  60. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:29 pm

    It’s turning out to be a love fest.

  61. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:32 pm

    ask this clown where his students come from? How many come from any of the top universities in America? Who would want to go there if they could go to any major US University? Where was the staff educated? By Alliant of course…

    • Darcy
      05/01/2013 at 12:34 pm

      Yeah, I went to one of the websites where students review the school. I think my local community college is better. Just some place to buy an advanced degree, apparently.

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:16 pm

        I LIVE in San Diego and yet have never heard of his fake college.

  62. Darcy
    05/01/2013 at 12:32 pm

    OMG. Make. It. Stop. I am going to go do some work, I can’t listen to this. Can somebody text me when Juan is up? In about 10 hours I’m thinking?

  63. 05/01/2013 at 12:33 pm

    Sidebar already!!!! Shot me now!!!!

  64. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:33 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Marlboro man looks lonely without the Note Taker beside him. Cup Toucher hasn’t touched a cup yet today

  65. 05/01/2013 at 12:33 pm

    omg.. I am sooo bored.. thought they were on a time limit here????????

  66. 05/01/2013 at 12:34 pm

    are they trying to say Dr Demarte wasn’t qualified??

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:34 pm

      I just woke up

    • Darcy
      05/01/2013 at 12:35 pm

      If you can tell me what the hell she’s getting at, you’re smarter than I am. I am just lost right now.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:36 pm

      Or not AS qualified, because part of the experience she included in her 8 years of clinical work, was under someone else’s license!! There being snarky!!

  67. 05/01/2013 at 12:34 pm

    Wait…did JW just say she saw a roach????

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:35 pm

      no.. she’s smokin one

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:37 pm

        Haha! Judge may I smoke a roach??? LOL! Luv it!

  68. 05/01/2013 at 12:34 pm

    Calm down screechy!

  69. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:35 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    A “judge mweeproach” from Willmott is heard. Another sizzlebar ensues. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan has a quick jection “lack of foundation” and a quick sizzlebar is had

    It gonna be a long, long,long, day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😦

  70. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:36 pm

    This non profit likes to work in AZ and Hawaii because of the weather and golf available. This guy doesn’t want any of that inner city crap.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:38 pm

      exactly plus it’s a crap school according to students (suckers) who actually spent money to attend.

  71. 05/01/2013 at 12:36 pm

    yeah they re trying to impeach Dr Demarte’s testimony…

  72. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:37 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    #JodiArias is not doing much crafting yet. She is paying attention to Dr. Geffner at the moment.

    Must have been told to pay attention!!!

  73. 05/01/2013 at 12:38 pm

    this goes to Dr Demarte saying how she could have got her license after her doctorate but CHOSE not to. They are trying to say she mislead the court about that

    • Gracerv7
      05/01/2013 at 1:35 pm

      Please tell me there is no way this will happen!

  74. dpforjodi
    05/01/2013 at 12:38 pm

    Does he use shoe polish on his freaking head?

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:41 pm

      ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:42 pm

      TFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • NapaNonnie
      05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

      My question too. With his crazy coloring I wonder which color the carpeting matches.

      • dpforjodi
        05/01/2013 at 1:17 pm

        don’t make me go there

  75. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:39 pm

    I swear these guys come on just to talk about themselves and try to get attention. The “highest” level is the ‘diplomate’ and this guy is one ANBD a ‘distinguished professor’ at the ‘university’ he “founded”.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:41 pm

      who cares…. Jung said…. get out there and see the people don’t get hung up on books…. and Jung is the father of psychology.. so I couldn’t care how many freakin diplomates he has.. I wanna know if he KNOWS anything about people not books!!!

  76. 05/01/2013 at 12:39 pm

    This is ALL well and good….until Juan rips it all to shreds in 60 seconds!!!

  77. 05/01/2013 at 12:40 pm

    family psychology yeah that’s relevant to Jodistein.. NOT

  78. 05/01/2013 at 12:40 pm

    It’s a shame this guys testiphony isn’t in printed form! I’m outta toilet paper!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:41 pm

      ROFL 😆

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:43 pm

      so is he!

    • dpforjodi
      05/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

      lol.
      Is it shit or shinola?

      • NapaNonnie
        05/01/2013 at 12:49 pm

        I think the shinola is in his hair. The shite is in his mouth.

  79. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:41 pm

    I can feel a container of Haagen-Dazs coming on………………………………..

  80. Anonymous
    05/01/2013 at 12:41 pm

    Watching paint dry or bread rise is more exciting than this! Yike!

  81. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 12:42 pm

    lolol ooo i am SO looking forward to Juan ripping this guy a new one!

  82. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:42 pm

    Running to get some coffee. Oh wait, make that s-l-o-w-l-y walking ala Nurmi, r-o-a-s-t-i-n-g some beans, g-r-i-n-d-i-n-g them, then w-a-s-h all my dishes for a cup, etc… and I won’t miss a thing.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:43 pm

      yep you got it darlin’ 😀

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 3:20 pm

      LOL!

  83. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:42 pm

    ask him if Oxford, Harvard, Cambridge , University of Sydney Or Melbourne, Columbia. NYU, UCLA or Stanford would even let him “talk” at their campus.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:44 pm

      Not a hope in hell I’d say! cos nobody of that stature would have to spout this cr@p

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

      Only in a break out session in the parking lot!

      • NapaNonnie
        05/01/2013 at 12:50 pm

        LOLz

  84. 05/01/2013 at 12:42 pm

    watching paint dry or bread rise is more exciting that this…yikes!

  85. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:43 pm

    I love it! He’s “distinguished prof” at the college he founded!!!!Hahahahaha

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:46 pm

      Oooh! Can’t wait for JM to bring up the fact that this ‘college’ was founded by him!!!

    • Darcy
      05/01/2013 at 12:46 pm

      But he said that he was “promoted” to that post – what, he made HIMSELF start at a lower level and earn his way to the top? At his own school? He’s that much of a loser?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 3:22 pm

        ROFLAO!!

  86. 05/01/2013 at 12:44 pm

    “…………………………………………………………………..30 years”!!!!!!!!! WTF?? Don’t ya know Sam Elliott??

  87. kCruz123
    05/01/2013 at 12:44 pm

    ct56, on previous page you asked if JA is left/right handed

    “In the same interview she said she was left-handed, though now claims she’s ambidextrous. It seems like a little lie, but in the context, Martinez is trying to prove Arias is a pathological liar who will lie about everything from a bent finger to what happened on June 4th 2008.”

    Jodi Arias’ Own Words (And Lack of Them) Come Back to Haunt Her in Cross
    Posted: 03/01/2013 2:36 pm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mari-fagel/jodi-arias-own-words-and-_b_2768809.html?view=print&comm_ref=false

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:46 pm

      think it’s pretty obvious jodistein is a pathological liar.. think she’s proved that herself.

  88. 05/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

    nooo Im frozen again.. anyone else?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 12:46 pm

      yes happened 3 times so far

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:46 pm

      nope

  89. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

    ok he’s doing forensic work for 30 years. Ok. And he “founded” a university that teaches forensics. Sorta like the Arthur Murray University for dance? I bet they have a few distinguished profs.

  90. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

    Is everyone sleeping? 🙂

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 12:46 pm

      Oops. Guess my computer was frozen.

  91. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

    I guess the box of “Grecian Formua” ran out before he got to his mustache.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

      ROFL

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

      Haha!!! love it!

    • dpforjodi
      05/01/2013 at 12:49 pm

      lol

  92. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 12:45 pm

    BTW… Morning all!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:46 pm

      I was asking about where you were darlin’ 🙂

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 12:48 pm

        Took a WELL needed long weekend break.

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 12:49 pm

        Lurked around a couple of times though.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

      Morning!!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:48 pm

      oh he hasnlt been asked to do capital case in 10 yrs… why? cos he’s been impeached too many times.. but this DT will take him cos they can’t find anyone else!
      _____________________

      Hi Nienna by the way **waves***

  93. 05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

    How fn unprepared is he?? Heck, what am I saying?? None of the DT witnesses were EVER prepared!!!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:49 pm

      WITJ seriously.. the only thing the DT witnesses knows is how to recite their overly inflated CVs and then ramble… seriously sheesh! haven’t you worked that out yet? 😛

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:52 pm

        It’s the fog Syn! The fog! haha!

      • 05/01/2013 at 12:53 pm

        ahhh yesssssss *nods* I understand! my bad!

  94. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

    does anyone have an update of the ho’s tweets? if so, can you post it here??? i don’t do that twitter thaaaang and i certainly don’t want to sign up just to read that hos! ty ty

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:49 pm

      Here’s a link to her account – I’m not on twitter either

      https://twitter.com/Jodiannarias

      • Moon
        05/01/2013 at 12:51 pm

        ty so much mmd!! trying to load it now

  95. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

    You’ll probably go a lot longer before testifying again after today.

  96. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:47 pm

    oooh I think I have to change my mind too. too funny.

  97. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 12:48 pm

    Who is “we” …. HE is the one testifying …. wait until JM gets ahold of him!

  98. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:49 pm

    Before it even gets to the case itself–this guys a gasbag. Probably a bit sharper than LaLa in court demeanor, but probably similar in thinking processes.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:51 pm

      ok back to trying to impeach Dr Demarte again

  99. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 12:50 pm

    “Have you ever had all your testimony stricken from the record?”

    • NapaNonnie
      05/01/2013 at 12:54 pm

      You know Juanderful will work that one in.

  100. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/01/2013 at 12:51 pm

    Geeeeezzzz Louise….if you’re going to dye your hair (this is for men) pleeeezzzz dye your mustache too!! This dr. looks ridiculous!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:53 pm

      I soooooooooooooo agree!!! He looks pathetic!!!

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 12:53 pm

      Or at the very least do some shading and leave in some grays.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:54 pm

      yep he is just all wrong!!!

  101. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:51 pm

    Who the hell is “we”???????????????????

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 12:52 pm

      sorry HJ didn’t see your comment!

      • HJ Madison
        05/01/2013 at 12:55 pm

        “Great minds think alike” … tehe😉

  102. 05/01/2013 at 12:53 pm

    hahahah he has never reviewed Miss Hairyarse… but he is going to try to impeach or validate the tests by reviewing them? riiiiiiight you can assess a person based on a test by someone else…. wtf.. ok that’s getting very close to rabbit hole entry right there.. I can’t even get my head around that one!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:27 pm

      I remember my husband hired an expert to do the exact same thing. The court-appointed psych expert came up with a report that was so damaging (with an MMPI test, too), Shawn had no choice but to hire someone whose specialty was evaluating the forensic product and shredding it apart. This expert did not evaluate or speak to my husband, me, or my boys. He stated flatly in court that he was not testifying as to any facts in the case. Interestingly, one of his main criticisms was that the tests were given under incarceration conditions, and that the evaluator was “biased” by my husband’s criminal conviction. So lame!!!!

  103. 05/01/2013 at 12:54 pm

    NapaNonnie :
    I think the shinola is in his hair. The shite is in his mouth.

    ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant!!!

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 12:55 pm

      LOL!!!

    • dpforjodi
      05/01/2013 at 12:57 pm

      great one

  104. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:54 pm

    Dry, dry, dry.

  105. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:55 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Some jurors are taking notes trying to make up for the lack of note taking by The Note Taker aka DUI.

  106. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 12:56 pm

    Anybody else hearing blah, blah, blah, blah……………………….????????????????

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 12:56 pm

      Yes! Me! See below…

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 12:57 pm

      The jury …. they must be bored silly! Especially knowing they are almost done and have to spend ALL day ….

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:58 pm

      OMG! YES!!!!!!

  107. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 12:56 pm

    OMG!!!! Why am I even watching this? Should have just waited to see JM close it out.

  108. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 12:56 pm

    UT – not Austi -, Tyler. They put him on the masters class, not for doctors. I bet UT wanted to hold him in place, and he fugured what the hell I’ll “found” my own goddang college! All those continuing ed clases!! All those ‘non=profits” to milk! Screw University of Tx, Tyler.

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:58 pm

      yeah yeah that’s what I’m thinking too!! Im thinking hell I will make my own credentials.. a lot of what he is saying doesn’t make any sense to me. and I don’t mean in the obvious way

  109. 05/01/2013 at 12:56 pm

    instruments???? wtf wtf??? what kind of instruments??? I demand to know!

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:59 pm

      Forceps, ofcourse!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 12:59 pm

      how can he have used these great instruments on a review of arias that he only had a piece of paper from? did he put it under a UV light or something to determine it’s veracity???

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 1:00 pm

        Black light while smoking pot with JW.

  110. 05/01/2013 at 12:57 pm

    I said this guy looked like Sam Elliott! I take that back! Sorry, Sam.

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 1:02 pm

      Thank you WTJ! I’ve been in love with Sam Elliott since the 70’s- oh that voice of his! This guy is no Sam! 🙂

  111. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 12:58 pm

    ooh who is she staring down now?

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 1:06 pm

      I know. She has so much nerve to turn around like that and look at everyone.

  112. SeniorMoments
    05/01/2013 at 12:59 pm

    I’m sure that this strategy of trying to match education to show up Dr DeMarte’s youth and “lack of experience” is very obvious to the jury. They will ignore it and believe who they choose, regardless of all of this diploma waving!

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 1:02 pm

      Or throw them all out …. all it comes down to is did she premeditate? And that answer is an obvious yes. Period.

  113. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 12:59 pm

    MMD did you see where I responded to you about mom?

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:13 pm

      Yes I did darlin’ – she’s an hour behind you and was out of it last night. Sounds like everything is going according to plan which is good! 😀

  114. 05/01/2013 at 1:00 pm

    Is it me? I haven’t been able to understand a WORD this guy has said! I have NO clue what he is talking about! Syn??

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:02 pm

      Help Syn! Going into the fog!!

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:04 pm

        Too late!! ****drool sliding down chin******

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

      Far as I know he is trying to impeach Dr Demarte…. but how he is doing that I don’t know because nothing he is saying about how he came to the conclusions.. whatever they are.. make any sense.. he has alluded to some instruments.. but you can’t put a piece of paper through any instrument that can tell him if something is accurate or not.. unless like Dr Dodgy he is a world leader in a field not yet peer reviewed. which of course is utter nonsense in and off itself.

      So it’s all just irrelevant completely because worse than Dodgyl.. who actually saw her and got his results from an event that didnt happen.. this guy is using ‘insturments’ that don’t exist to assess those very results.. so we have bogus on bogus!

  115. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/01/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Dr. Drew is on HLN (Kyra Phillips show) and he and the other male guest said something about this guys qualifications and that JM is going to tear him apart on that! Not sure what they are talking about because we put the volume on mute when the gasbag was going down his laundry list of qualifications! We’re listening to Livestream but are keeping the volume very low…..can’t handle Willanurmi!!

    • Gracerv7
      05/01/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Hahaha I put mine on mute too! It’s just painful!

  116. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 1:02 pm

    He started in San Diego with his “Alliant” university.It s a way for those not US citizens to cometo America and study(for a fortune). He’s now in AZ and Hawaii, probably because University of California, San Diego is one of the top rated Psychology Depts in the world. Nobody went to Alliant and he went to Arizona!

  117. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/01/2013 at 1:03 pm

    SeniorMoments :
    I’m sure that this strategy of trying to match education to show up Dr DeMarte’s youth and “lack of experience” is very obvious to the jury. They will ignore it and believe who they choose, regardless of all of this diploma waving!

    We’re thinking they’ll just throw out all the experts and concentrate on the facts only.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

      people in the uS have been saying and writing this for years and years. Trouble is not enougfh people SEE and HEAR what actually goes on in a courtroom.

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

      Let’s hope they do just that! Who cares what problems she has. Let’s just keep focused on her brutal premed murder of TA!

  118. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 1:03 pm

    Been under an hour and I already want to smack perky.

  119. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 1:03 pm

    and THATS how you become a “distinguished professor”…you FIND a college, name it, hire yourself and off you go!

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:08 pm

      Cool! Just set up my own college…..University of B.S! I have appointed myself Professor of ‘Bullshit Detection’. You can sign up for classes with me, or my other professors, who JUST signed on…..Professors LaViolette, Samuels and Geffner!

  120. jennifer
    05/01/2013 at 1:04 pm

    nurmi’s sitting straight up (as much as he can) today……must be trying to hold in gas or something…keeps looking at the clock…”should I have a big mac today or an entire bucket of KFC”

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

      LOL!

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 1:07 pm

      Lol!!! You nailed it!

  121. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 1:04 pm

    I don’t think he has a clue to what lies ahead of him.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 1:07 pm

      ohhhh I hope you’re onto something; something juanster-like.

  122. JesusFreak
    05/01/2013 at 1:05 pm

    http://crimeandcourtsnews.blogspot.com/p/watch-jodi-arias-trial-live-while-in.html
    Moon, if you scroll down, this site has added ja’s tweets.

    • Moon
      05/01/2013 at 1:10 pm

      ty too, jf!

  123. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 1:06 pm

    Wurmster’s posture has improved- Anyone think he’s been told how disrespectful we found his barkalounger pose?

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 1:08 pm

      I’m sure. He reads all about his reclination status through Wild.

  124. jennifer
    05/01/2013 at 1:07 pm

    must be trying to hold in gas or something…keeps looking at the clock…”should I have a big mac today or an entire bucket of KFC”

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:10 pm

      Hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:14 pm

      😆

  125. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Im breaking out the homemade cinnamon rolls. any takers?

    • brightgirl58
      05/01/2013 at 1:10 pm

      Wendy, do you have Travis’ recipe? Spot on girl!

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:10 pm

      2 please, Wendy!!

  126. 05/01/2013 at 1:09 pm

    ohhhh so he ran the MMPI answers through his insturments and is going to show it scores differently.. yep as I thought this is at every turn about impeaching her

  127. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 1:09 pm

    Jodi’s face is screaming I’M SCREWED

  128. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 1:09 pm

    Ah- back to copywriter infractions! (PK is an IP attorney, he said this claim is BS)

  129. 05/01/2013 at 1:10 pm

    oh so if they cant release the data… how the hell did you get it to run through your machine???? if you didnt see her.. how can you have anything to say??? what the heck are you doing here???

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:13 pm

      Right! He didn’t talk to JA, watch the interrogation tapes, interview anyone else!!! Dr. D is NOT on trial here, I hope he knows that!!!!

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:22 pm

        yeah but how did he get this data? if the DT couldnt give it to him.. and he didn’t interview JA how did he get is data????

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:38 pm

        I’m sure DT were allowed to disclose to him since its in the context of this case. There are different scoring companies for MMPI, if a psych chooses to pay for one…remember it’s 567 questions! But the scoring by a service is Not all there is to making a diagnosis. It’s the totality of the entire evaluation, which DeMarte performed on Jodi.
        I seriously can’t believe the déjà vu I’m experiencing with this. I went thru the exact same process in my case.

  130. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 1:11 pm

    in the non-profi world -once you get accredited its all gravy from there. Lawyers have tried doing similar things, can we start a law school, and really take it in?. Usually they dont get accredited so they become schools where real estate agents learn the law, Here we go–the copyright issue; intellectual property issues, Ok Thought that was where we belonged..

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 1:14 pm

      ah back in copyright law. Ok. So, this “professor” once he got his school accredited it was off and running. Lesson to be learned? Found a college, folks!

  131. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 1:11 pm

    I’m dying laughing re the tech hints.

  132. 05/01/2013 at 1:12 pm

    hahahahahahahhahaha omfg OMFG OMFG he’s got results he is testifying on from somewhere who knows where.. ran em through his instruemnt.. ie computer score of the MMPI… he can’t use a touch screen but he has this world breaking instrumentation to diagnose a patient he has never interviewed!!! bwbwhahahahahahahaha

  133. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 1:12 pm

    Thank You Jesus! We are not going to see the 556 questions, because JW would go through every single one of them!

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:15 pm

      the point is.. he cant have them!!! It is contravening every ethical law to give them to another psychologist.. so where did he get the 556 answers if he never saw Jodi???

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 1:25 pm

        Surely, DT must have made sure it was legal to give them to him, right? It seems like that would b too big an error for them and this doc to make!

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:28 pm

        I don’t know.. I don’t know how he has got the data he is talking on. He didn’t explain it. He cannot be handed raw data unless he has it from interviwing Jodi.. that’s all I know. so he is speaking without access to raw data as far as I can see.. which makes no sense to me at all.

        He simply hasn’t explained this crucial element

      • Ginger
        05/01/2013 at 1:43 pm

        The stolen laptop maybey?

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:42 pm

        I know first hand that it is entirely legal to disclose in the limited context of her case. Once Geffner was hired by Arias, he was part of her defense, and all the discovery info was allowed to be given to him for evaluation. That’s how it works. Otherwise, there is a court order on the top page of the psych reports stating that it would be in contempt of court to disclose the information in whole or in part to anyone outside the case.

  134. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 1:12 pm

    when i hear Drs referred to as QUACKS… his picture is what I see!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 1:15 pm

      well, old Elmer Fudd is running right close behind him,no?

      • Moon
        05/01/2013 at 1:21 pm

        yep right there with la toilette too!

  135. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 1:14 pm

    even the ho looks like she’s about to nod off.

    none of this has anything to do with the fact SHE KILLED TRAVIS IN COLD BLOOD SEVERAL TIMES OVER AND LEFT HIM CRAMMED IN A SHOWER

    • NapaNonnie
      05/01/2013 at 1:26 pm

      Yes. Stop the smoke and mirrors. Travis was killed in cold blood and suffered because of the violent overkill used. He was alive when she severed his neck to his spine after she stabbed him in his heart, slashed him, stabbed 27+ times and then after severing his neck she shot him in the face as the final angry insult.

  136. 05/01/2013 at 1:14 pm

    WTF was that weird noise he made?????? Did he just blow a loud one in the courtroom???? Haha!!

  137. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 1:14 pm

    The “thought bubble” above Ja’s head: “this guy is an idiot! He can’t even use simple technology! I’m waaaaay smarter than him! I can hack email AND bank accounts!”

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 1:16 pm

      LOL!

  138. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 1:15 pm

    Very thick books….He’s not coming across terribly professional to me, a lay person.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 1:18 pm

      LOL I’m still laughing. “thick” books OMG

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:21 pm

      this is a pretty major freakin profile!!! you twit!! how many times have you seen such extreme elevations across the board? are you gonna tell me she DOESN’T have a personality disorder.. NO… tell me she has ASPD then.. come on.. let’s hear it.. which makes her even MORE dangerous! That’s the ONLY place you can go.

  139. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 1:15 pm

    Ya notice that the word CV has not been used once this morning!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:16 pm

      Guess he doesn’t have one – is only able to talk about junk and diplomates and other stuff LOL

  140. 05/01/2013 at 1:16 pm

    What a complete waste of time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  141. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/01/2013 at 1:16 pm

    So Syntara…..does JA not like that Dr. D found a mental disorder in her? Does this anger her?

  142. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 1:16 pm

    She’s adding him to the list of folks to knock off when she’s released.

  143. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 1:17 pm

    he’s a name dropper like LaLaT. We are suppossed to be impressed. They have “think books” he says. Wow! Thick books? They must REALLY be smart.

  144. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 1:17 pm

    Well thank heaven he explained the correlation between peaks on a graph and elevated scores on a test — I would NEVER have figured that out because I only have three undergraduate degrees, one MFA, and am currently in a doctoral program. I r to stoopid to unerstan techniqal stuff.

    • Darcy
      05/01/2013 at 1:57 pm

      You need that 119 IQ. You know, like Einstein.

  145. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 1:17 pm

    I am longing to hear JM’s voice. Sorry MMD.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:21 pm

      I am too darlin’ – I’ve got this guy tuned out completely!

  146. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 1:19 pm

    Does anyone know if the pros. will be calling another witness?

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 1:32 pm

      I hope so! When will we find out?

  147. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 1:20 pm

    “floating profile” he’s said 6 or 7 times and all I can think of is (caution:adult) the “floating turd” in la toilet. It was said it didnt know which side it wanted to be on.

  148. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 1:20 pm

    Wendy – no I hadn’t seen where you had talked to your mum!!! You must feel so relieved 🙂

    • Wendy
      05/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

      Yes much better since I heard her voice. I think we are going to make it through this. Anyone have a plane that can take me to visit her? lol

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 1:25 pm

        where are you and where is she???? just curious………….

      • Wendy
        05/01/2013 at 1:27 pm

        I am in Kentucky she is in Montana.

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 1:33 pm

        I would hate to be that far away. Whenever my mum had surgery I was either on the first plane or else she had it where I lived so I could look after her. Can’t imagine what you are going through darlin’. Saying prayers for her 🙂

      • kCruz123
        05/01/2013 at 1:50 pm

        Wendy, happy hear to hear that you’ve spoken with your Mom. Will continue to keep you in my thoughts and prayers. 🙂

  149. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

    I have a lot of hostility towards you Geffner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

      as well as “ok um” Gidget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:24 pm

      Ditto! Syn…help here….can you help us understand why we have such a burning hostility towards this pile on the witness stand?

  150. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

    lolol he’s using the “scales” that Dr. D says are not used! Of course, whiny willnot aka walking idiot was bound and determined to get those scales in!
    ——————————–
    gma having a hard time staying awake!

  151. 05/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

    God bless Bud Light and the ‘Lime-A-Rita’…..the lazy man’s margarita in a can!!! Tasty!!! 2 more of these cans, and I MIGHT be able to understand wtf this douche is talking about!!! Cheers!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:24 pm

      Enjoy darlin’ – clink!

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:26 pm

      Cheers…hiccup!

  152. 05/01/2013 at 1:23 pm

    oh yeah… Jodi is passive submissive…. yeah who agrees with that one?

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 1:26 pm

      Noone!

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:29 pm

      JA’s other personalities do!

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

        Yup!

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:31 pm

        personas dear personas.. not personalities.. she has one personality many personas 😀 naughty corner ➡

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:39 pm

        Ah! Personas! Got cha! Somehow…personas sound a lot more creepy!

  153. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 1:24 pm

    I’m probably a little biased but actually feel that the only expert to get and keep my attention was Dr. D. She explained things so well. With him, he’s so boring and I’m just tuning him out. Here’s 🍷to hoping the jurors feel the same way.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:26 pm

      I’m paying not a bit of attention to him.

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 1:26 pm

      Ditto!!

  154. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 1:25 pm

    Wrapping my headphones cord around my neck…

    This guy is… I have no words.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:27 pm

      No, don’t do it Nienna – we need ya here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 1:28 pm

        I wouldn’t. None of this is worth it. But a girl can dream.

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:28 pm

      Don’t do it Nienna! Repeat after me….”there’s no place like Juan! there’s no place like Juan!” Just hold on…Juan’s coming!!!!

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 1:29 pm

        Thank you! Needed that! Literally almost cried as I spoke those words. This case is making me loose my mind!!

  155. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 1:26 pm

    All joking aside — I thought his testimony was to be very narrowly focused. How is all this being allowed in? What is the point of all these tests and scores? She is NOT using a mental defect defense!

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

      Yes but it’s a DP case so anything goes. I guess.

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

      He is going to say lump sum total all the tests point to PTSD and battered woman syndrome. And he is doing it in this mind-numbing way to “impress”. Note he has NEVER said some of these scales are not well researched, like Dr. D said, and she chose not to use.

  156. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 1:28 pm

    He’s interrupting the scales that Dr DeMarte specifically stated that the creators of the MMPI-2 and their own directions prohibit using for scoring or to interrupt results to form a hypothesis.

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 1:36 pm

      Wow! Hope Juan gets this known to the jury.

  157. 05/01/2013 at 1:29 pm

    he is sooooo wrong about ego strength.. his interpretation is completely wrong! completely wrong!

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 1:37 pm

      Hope Juan catches it like u did…

  158. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 1:29 pm

    MMD upstairs……

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

      K

  159. 05/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

    it’s about her understanding of her own identity, self awareness… she scores low because she has no real personality of her own.. she only has projected personas to compensate for her lack of identity.. it is NOT what he just described.. he is using a completely different interpretation and it is factually flawed.

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 1:33 pm

      I think Dr. D explained that … and JM will go in for the jugular on it …. the jury knows he is excluding details ….I hope!

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 1:34 pm

      I guess right about now, you’re to your waist in the rabbit hole, when all we see are your ankles and footies, we’ll step in for a rescue, and a drink.

  160. Shannon
    05/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

    I you search rankings and reviews for “Alliant International University” it is not a pretty sight!! Ranked 2256. The best review I saw was ” It’s sunny at the campus.” Plus many of the students are involved in the online part of the program. It started I believe in 1969.Some students complained about increased tuition costs, which is all over but, it is a non-profit school. They have questioned where all the money has gone since the school buildings look pretty old. No offense to any online schools, but that is how they get “International ” students. I think the only question Juan needs to ask is ” Isn’t true you were the editor of Alyce LaViolette’s book?

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:37 pm

      LOL good question for JM!!! Love it!

  161. 05/01/2013 at 1:30 pm

    Oop! There it is….sssssssnake tongue…sssssss!!!!!

  162. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Didn’t Perky make such a big deal about Dr. D. not going back at one point to talk to JA again but yet, this guy never even interviewed JA and we should take his tests at face value. WTH!

  163. Shannon
    05/01/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Sorry If you search…

  164. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 1:33 pm

    Which comes first — the hypothesis or the proof?

  165. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 1:33 pm

    Wendy – upstairs

    • Wendy
      05/01/2013 at 1:40 pm

      Thanks MMD. We are scattered everywhere. I have 2 brothers, one is in Las Vegas and the other in affghanistan. I have 2 children about to graduate and I just couldn’t go. Im hoping to go a little later and be there to help her at home. I keep telling myself I would just be sitting in a chair right now because she is in CICU

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 1:51 pm

        Wish I could just blink like Samantha from Bewitched and send you there. It’s tough when everyone is spread on. I was an only so I just did what I had to do and thankfully everything always worked out. Thankfully your s/father is there so that’s a comfort as well as being able to talk on the phone. Sending lots and lots of prayers to CICU

  166. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 1:35 pm

    lolol at “let’s say 10:45” ok judge you can SAY it… of course that means it won’t happen!!!

  167. 05/01/2013 at 1:35 pm

    seriously.. this guy isn’t making any sense. I mean really isn’t nothing he is saying has any valid basis. He still has not even explained how he is coming to these conclusions. He has no data. he’s looking at Dr Demarte’s scales and trying to .. how come JW gets to tell the judge when she wants a break?

  168. 05/01/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Isn’t one of the requirements that JA participate fully in her defense? Wouldn’t that include active listening? Especially to her own ‘expert’ witness? Why doesn’t the judge stop this coloring fiasco? Bizarre!!

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 1:39 pm

      I am just listening now … is she coloring today? Doesn’t that say it all to the jury? She colors when a personity test shows she is a “nut-job”.

  169. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Just wait until JM gets to go after him for NOT reading any emails, journals, etc.. pr talking to WOBO at all!

  170. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 1:39 pm

    ya know they say the ho is writing a book, which may be true…..

    but i think she’s is taking notes on how she should have done things differently… what she will do if she gets a next time. oh and how to fake future tests. I bet she will even give the scum back in her jailblock lessons in this!

    crazy twisted evil biotch

  171. 05/01/2013 at 1:39 pm

    ok.. I am hearing this and understanding from a professional basis that this guy is talking crap and why… but what about you lot who aren’t in my profession… do you understand he is making claims based on tests he didn’t even perform himself and has no raw data to form a basis for any of his claims?

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Oh I’m following that. He’s full of it and hopefully the jury is understanding this as well.

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 1:42 pm

      Yes, because we remember what Dr. D told us. He has glossed over 2 things she made a point of ….. some of the scales have not enough research and so should not be used and the word descriptors, like self-esteem, can be misleading. He neglected all that in an attempt to mis-lead. JM will get him.

    • LindaLou
      05/01/2013 at 1:43 pm

      Syn, I sorta asked the same thing directly above.

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:43 pm

      Yes….which I hope JM brings up in cross

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:44 pm

      I’m totally ignoring him and hopefully so is the jury. He is a total gasbag!!! At least Dr. D kept my attention!!!

    • brightgirl58
      05/01/2013 at 1:47 pm

      Without a doubt.

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 1:47 pm

      No, I don’t think we see it like u do, and, unfortunately, the jury might not either….I just see him reading and interpreting results of Jodi’s tests. I thought the test results were the raw data. What is raw data then?

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 1:50 pm

        Sorry, I should have said “I don’t see it like you do”, not we…

        I just can’t wait for Juan to get up there and explain what u r saying so no one is naive like me.

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:53 pm

        the raw data is her actual answers.

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 1:56 pm

        I thought he had the raw data cuz he put it thru his machine and rescored it? Ty.

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:48 pm

      I believe he has the raw data.

  172. 05/01/2013 at 1:39 pm

    Syntara :
    personas dear personas.. not personalities.. she has one personality many personas naughty corner

    Sorry mummy!

  173. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 1:40 pm

    What tests did Dr. DeMarte use? What tests did Samuels use? Just the names is all I need, if anyone has them handy/knows them off the top of their head. Don’t waste time looking them up, though. grazie

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 1:42 pm

      MMPI-2 & she redid the Trauma Inventory that Dr Karp had previously done

      • Schaeffer
        05/01/2013 at 1:48 pm

        thank you, Nancy!

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 1:48 pm

      Dr Dodgy did the MCMI or Milan – based on a population already Dx and in a mental hospital. While the MMPI-2 is based on a “normal” population and it’s widely agreed that the most valid way to proceed is to do the MMPI-2 and then if more info needed to proceed with the MCMI. Dodgy did the MCMI 1st I think because it was less specific in clarifying all of her psychopathology.

      • 05/01/2013 at 1:56 pm

        course its less specific its less than half the questions… plus as you say it’s on already diagnosed patients.. at least the results are… Dr Demarte explained that clearly.

        you are absolutely correct! it’s not as specific to personality disorders more mental health disorders in general.

      • NancyB
        05/01/2013 at 9:44 pm

        Thanks Syn! I forgot those things!

  174. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 1:42 pm

    One court specifically invalidated his ENTIRE testimony as they described him as “nothing more than a hired gun” and required that his status as a forensic expert in that county court system be removed. After court today I’ll post the link that proves this.

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 1:48 pm

      http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?page=17&xmldoc=In%20TNCO%2020101112801.xml&docbase=CsLwAr3-2007-Curr&SizeDisp=7

      For those who have not seen it, be sure to select “show all pages”. The most interesting part is toward the beginning, where it talks about “psychologists testimony”, then toward the end it goes into “hired gun” and stricken.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 3:49 pm

      Thank you for this. My faith in the whole system is so fragile already; and my anger at charatans is so deeprooted, that I have to hear positive reactions to unfair and stupid, actions.

      • NancyB
        05/01/2013 at 9:45 pm

        Me too Robert

  175. dpforjodi
    05/01/2013 at 1:42 pm

    wobo must be tired today. Her lazy eye is getting lazier.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:45 pm

      she knows the end is near. By the hi there – you haven’t been around in a while ****waves**** or maybe we were just on different times 🙂

      • dpforjodi
        05/01/2013 at 1:54 pm

        hi MMD, different times how are your doggies?

  176. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 1:45 pm

    MMD…..up

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:52 pm

      Wendy …..up

  177. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 1:47 pm

    How in the Hell did this idiot’s testimony warrant a surrebuttal motion being granted? Surrebuttals are NOT common- there is NOTHING here that supports the judge, once again, allowing the DT ANYTHING they want.

    • Moon
      05/01/2013 at 1:52 pm

      I’d like to know that too! I am SICK to death of hearing/seeing how linient (sp) this judge is cuz it’s a “DP” case! uuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnbelievable

  178. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 1:47 pm

    I wonder which JA we’ll see when Juan’s witness takes the stand? Betcha it’ll be the ‘scribbler, eraser, head down and won’t even look up’ JA.

  179. 05/01/2013 at 1:48 pm

    I’ll give you a direct example of what he is doing.

    You know how I did that PCL-R of the character Jodistein?

    I had to create a fictitious persona or it would breach ethical grounds because I have never sat down with her and obtained raw data.

    That’s what he is doing here… claiming to know things he cannot legitimately endorse or should not be legitimately endorsing.. because he does not have the raw data.. ie he has never got the answers from her and created his own graphs to do an assessment.

    It’s bordering unethical at the very least… at least morally if not professionally.

  180. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Schaffer- Upstairs^^^

  181. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 1:53 pm

    the ONLY thing the duhfense’s experts have done is to educate the HO on how to lie on these tests!

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:51 pm

      U R so right!! Ja is doing all that writing planning her appeal before her verdict is in. WTH does that say? She knows she;s screwed and yes her lazy eye is really drooping today.
      Who the hell ever said this woman is good looking? They must have their own droopy eyes!
      maybe even blind!

      • dpforjodi
        05/01/2013 at 7:39 pm

        lol

  182. Darcy
    05/01/2013 at 1:54 pm

    I was a psych major and this is complete nonsense. I guarantee the jury is glazed over with all this talk of “validity scales” and “clinical range”. Can’t wait for closing arguments. This is a magician’s trick – misdirection. Let’s spend days debating validity scales for the MMPI and ignore the 29 stab wounds and pathological lying.

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 2:03 pm

      Sooo agree with your comment–total misdirection! Just like a month of JA on the stand and almost another month with the 1st to psycho experts.

  183. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 1:55 pm

    hey quack……….. you are in a COURT OF LAW………. you laughing IDIOT.

    laugh now sucker cuz you won’t be when Juan has at ya!

  184. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 1:56 pm

    the idiocy of this discourse is getting to me. He is trying to show that Dr. J was not as experienced or as smart as this guy with the “tests.” Its like a art critic saying another art critic didnt use the “right” analysis in making an “esthetic” judgement. Makes no sense in a criminal court.

    • 05/01/2013 at 1:57 pm

      yes it is all about systematically ripping Dr Demarte to ribbons.. starting with how she got her license through to her actual diagnosis.

      BUT.. he is not making any sense.. she did!

  185. Gracerv7
    05/01/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Just read on My Crime Time that Dr. Hayes will be testifying for the state. Think they’ll squeeze that in today or push back closing arguments. My apologies if the has been covered and I missed it!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 1:57 pm

      The judge said they were going to keep on going until they finished but you know how good her word is 😉

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 1:59 pm

      Great news!!!!!

  186. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 1:56 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    #JodiArias is paying attention to Dr. G’s answers at the moment. Earlier she was crafting with her right hand.

  187. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 1:58 pm

    Hahahaha The “professor” just “joked” with the “student” ms Gidget. “Did you get it” I think so. Ha Ha They laughed -Ha Ha Ha together. Lovely.

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:00 pm

      I missed what they laughed at…

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 2:02 pm

        about whether or not the prof was able to “make it understandable for the unwashed masses.

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:05 pm

        :rolls: pompous ass???

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 2:02 pm

        Me too!

  188. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 1:58 pm

    Ok .. just got back from a field trip. Did I miss anything important this morning? Been watching stream for last 5 minutes ….. booorrrrriiinnngg

    • Wendy
      05/01/2013 at 2:03 pm

      been boooorrrring the whole time.

  189. 05/01/2013 at 1:59 pm

    the PTSD of 69 was based on changed answers, Dr Dodgy transferring the answers himself to the bubble sheet.. AND on fictiitious ninjas.. HOW is that relevant you nincompoop!!!

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 2:03 pm

      So, I just heard he had her raw data.??

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:53 pm

        I’m sure he did. I’ve been thru this exact process. The DT may disclose the data in the limited context of this case. Since this guy is now part of her defense, he is entitled to see the data.

  190. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Cup toucher is biting his finger nails. Marlboro man is playing with his pen. A few jurors takes notes

    They’re as bored as we are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  191. 05/01/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Is this guy rebutting Dr. D only….or is he allowed to agree with Dr. Samuel’s PTSD diagnosis, or offer his own? Are there any other witnesses today besides him? Is the judge allowing him to also rebut Dr. Horne? Or did that get shot down too?

  192. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:01 pm

    Uses words like “inlikely” and “working hypothesis” and it “would support” Says NOTHING SPECIFIC. Hedges every thought. HE -, the professor wouldn’t diagnose anyone with – Borderline. Ok Lets say when you ‘found” your own college you can use or throw out whatever you want!.

  193. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:02 pm

    oh nice! more “evidence” withheld from the State.

  194. Anonymous
    05/01/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Twiddling thumbs. Waiting for JM to bring this back on track. I have no doubt the jury will be relieved when cross starts. Every time the DT gets up to question, it works against them. More dissembling. More fog. It’s all so apparent.

  195. 05/01/2013 at 2:03 pm

    did he say he had the raw data? I missed that…. how can he have the raw data? I don’t get it??

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

      Yes, he just said that.

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:11 pm

        maybe he had part of the raw data then.. like just the bubble answers… I dunno… I’m totally confused because he is deliberately smokescreening on exactly what he worked with. Juan will clarify it I’m sure.

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

      Raw data = verbally told to him via ALV.

  196. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

    another old gasbag/wanker that needs to retire

  197. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Oh please mention ALV’s book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 2:05 pm

      Your fella’ will!

  198. 05/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

    this guy isn’t going to fall to bits as bad as dodgy did… but I want to see how bad he stumbles when juan gets up. I really want to see that piece of paper that was just entered into evidence… I need to see what the heck that was

  199. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 2:04 pm

    all of his articles & chapters are from years and years ago

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 2:05 pm

      exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  200. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:05 pm

    Oh no Hes on trauma now. Why is he talking? Loves when he says “at the university” as if its Berkeley

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 2:06 pm

      Lol…

  201. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Think wurmi was just sleeping 🙂

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 2:07 pm

      Really? How funny

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 2:08 pm

        Definitely looked like it.

  202. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 2:06 pm

    OMG….who cares!

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 2:07 pm

      Peer review ….blah..blah..blah

  203. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 2:06 pm

    In the student reviews a number of them added that the instructors regularly steal the PhD student’s work and claim it as their own without naming the real authors – in direct violation of copywrite law.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 2:08 pm

      happens a LOT even at good colleges, so imagine what a hack place like this does to someone on a student VISA at the school and working 80 hours a week in the lab for the “professor” to use their work.

      • NancyB
        05/01/2013 at 9:49 pm

        Gosh Robert, I had absolutely no idea. That’s terrible.

  204. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:06 pm

    who published this guy? What are th epublishers gasbag? You “wrote” or”co wrote” or “edited” 45 books. By whom?

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 2:09 pm

      exactly! These are all his money making schemes in my opinion

  205. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 2:07 pm

    Geffner is a gasbag

  206. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:09 pm

    “us” in the editotrial department. He used “us” as the subject of a sentence. This gasbag school founder.

  207. Jane
    05/01/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Show of hands of anyone who is sick and disgusted of looking at that evil face. Whatever he is rambling about and deflecting is abhorrent in this case.

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:28 pm

      I’m ready to throw my computer out the window….what a blowhard! Enough already.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

      not even looking – waste of time

  208. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Back up gadget. getting on my last nerve…

  209. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:10 pm

    he also founded the goddam magazines he edits.

  210. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 2:10 pm

    Gidget

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:58 pm

      Hey Wendy what a day in the courtroom! let;s hang this doc along with Jodi

  211. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Juan must be going batty

    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 2:13 pm

      I bet.. I know I am!

  212. PK
    05/01/2013 at 2:11 pm

    My questions fro Dr Grayaway

    1. Have you ever attended a nationally recognized university?

    2. Have you ever attended any university recognized for advanced studieds in psychology?

    3. Have your ever taught any subject at a nationally acclaimed university?

    4. Have you ever taught at or attended any university anybody has ever heard of before you testified today?

    5, Before you make a paid for hire lame attempt to upstage Dr D, have you considered that she graduated from Michigan State University, perhaps the top schools specializing in advanced psychology studies?

    6. Have you left yet?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 2:15 pm

      he wasn’t at Austin, but he did spend sometime at Univ of Texas. I’d bet tomorrow’s meal money that he wasn’t offered tenure and he “founded” his own college.He didnt mention where he went and I’m too uninterested inhim to find out.

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 2:20 pm

      Hi PK- were you here about a half hour ago when Perky brought up copywrite infractions again? Re: the owners of the psych tests?

      • PK
        05/01/2013 at 2:26 pm

        Attempting to protect copyrights on any of the psychological tests would be an exercise in futility. Change a word here and another there and voila we have a next new copyrighted test

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 2:22 pm

      Loved the “Dr. Grayaway”!

      • Gracerv7
        05/01/2013 at 4:16 pm

        Haha so did I!!!

  213. C.I,
    05/01/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Good morning all I have missed you all – Was re-watching most of the trial. I can’t wait for wingnut and recliner guy to just go away. They have made a mockery of this case – I cant count how many times the 2 of them have said slut, whore, 3 hole wonder, ejaculate on your face, tie you to a tree and so on – pigs, literally pigs the 2 of them. I wonder if they think this is their claim to fame. Asses the both of them – maybe they can open a law firm or better yet their own university for the lowest of the low. I hope they jury ignores their experts testimony and their bull and gives Travis and the family justice.

  214. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:12 pm

    guy saying what the “ideal” time to test–not what “they” calll “retrospective” Ah smart guys must use that term.

  215. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 2:14 pm

    This guy is really creepy! He looks exactly like the “wonderful” Alliant school he started!

    The “stein” is acting strange today as well, writing with her right hand.

  216. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Nice objection JM!

  217. 05/01/2013 at 2:15 pm

    he just makes no sense.. can’t work out what the heck he is saying.. hopefully the jury are as confused and thinking.. this is another Dodgy! seriously he just makes no sense because he just talks instruments.. it makes no sense at all.. anyone could say they had nightmares etc etc.. what a load of crap! as if she isn’t going to lie with questions like that.

    This is ALL about impeaching Dr Demarte’s testimony. This should never have been allowed in this judge is woeful.

  218. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 2:17 pm

    Anniefreeze posted a really great article last night (on previous thread) that was authored by an attorney. He used to be a prosecutor and is now a defense atty but he blasted Judge Stephens for being sooo ineffective in being in charge of this case and allowing days and days of testimony that should not have been allowed.

  219. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 2:18 pm

    gramma is asleep and the twinnies are having their own party. This is a murder trial folks!

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 2:26 pm

      I know, right?

  220. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:18 pm

    if this guy had an once of class he would never have testified judging another professional’s work when he hadn’t made an evaluation of the person himself. Its a disgrace ,

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:59 pm

      It’s an entire specialty in court forensics. It’s what people do when they can’t dispute the content of the report. They hire someone to shred apart the methodology. Yawn!!!

  221. 05/01/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Jodi was staring at JUan and flores just then

  222. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:19 pm

    In a college bowl of psychology, this guy v, Doc J, I’d bet she’d beat him soundly.

  223. Dewey
    05/01/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Hey Seinfeld fans, every time they show Donovan in the gallery, does anyone else think to themselves, “Neewwman”?

    • Moon
      05/01/2013 at 2:22 pm

      lolol yessssssss i thought that face looked familiar! ty for that!! lolol

      • Dewey
        05/01/2013 at 2:54 pm

        Jambalaya!

    • LindaLou
      05/01/2013 at 2:22 pm

      You’re sooo right. Lol

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 2:24 pm

      Omg! Yes! Every time!!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 2:32 pm

      Every time lololololol

  224. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 2:19 pm

    I don’t think he is a real PHD I think he gave himself those degrees

  225. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:20 pm

    i cant stand you whiny willnot you fn biotch

  226. 05/01/2013 at 2:20 pm

    omg.. he is totally out to impeach DeMarte…. it was within the time she could use it… she explained that. He is so off here.. this is disgusting and so blatant.. this is not about . I have more credentials than her… this is a witch hunt of Dr DeMarte

    • WhereIsSHE
      05/01/2013 at 2:35 pm

      LOL;) Sorry, Syn, but that is the point, legally speaking, of calling this witness/having this sur-rebuttal. The point is to attack the credibility of the state’s rebuttal expert. This is entirely expected, not the least bit shocking. This is how things go in court.

      I’m personally not too worried about it.
      First of all, on cross-examination, Juan will neutralize, if not destroy, whatever “damage” is done on direct.
      Second of all, much of the expert testimony in this case is a red herring, tied to Jodi’s claim of “self-defense”/lack of memory, and this jury is not stupid. They are paying attention.
      They don’t need a bunch of experts to tell them that a) there is no evidence of any physical abuse, let alone any “life threatening” abuse from Travis to Jodi; b)it is totally unbelieveable that she has no memory of what she did–just too self-serving and too inconsistent with the evidence which shows that she engaged in numerous cover-up activities both in that house and after; and c) they know what she did to him and that she waltzed away with a couple of cuts on her fingers!

      Do not sweat this guy’s testimony/don’t let it get you upset on behalf of Dr. D.
      If I am not making you feel better, Juan certainly will when he gets up for cross.

      ***breathe*** =)

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:41 pm

        Im not sweting it in legal terms.. Im sweting it in my professional terms. It is immoral to do this.. I don’t care about the legal crap.. I care about my profession!

      • 05/01/2013 at 3:03 pm

        Syntara, like I mentioned, it’s an entire field specialty in court….these psychologists who exist to only evaluate methodology of the other prodessional’s product. It happened in my case exactly like this.

  227. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Is it appropriate to use an “outdated” test. Outdated by 2 weeks? Ahole?

  228. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 2:21 pm

    take note on this guys blinking eyes!!!

    • dpforjodi
      05/01/2013 at 2:25 pm

      Morse code to hodi I love you

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 3:57 pm

        LOL!

  229. 05/01/2013 at 2:21 pm

    jodi is looking over to juan constantly.. thinking she is drawing him or something.

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

      I thought that and then I saw Deanna is here today. I think she’s looking at her.

  230. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:22 pm

    hahaha Juan had to correct Willnot. She said the “prosecutor” brought up something and he told HER it was DEFENSE

  231. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:23 pm

    All right now he’s taking ethics and Juan better get him

  232. 05/01/2013 at 2:24 pm

    yeah she’s way off the freakin charts.. and its not necessarily based on trauma.. that is GROSSLY misleading!!!!

  233. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 2:24 pm

    MMD its a good thing I cant twitch my nose like Samantha on Bewitched because I would be in that courtroom whooping upon the whole doofus team and Hodi

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 2:33 pm

      I’d leave that to Robert – he’d be a good one!!!!!! Just let him go 🙂

  234. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 2:24 pm

    There is ALWAYS a grace period as Dr. D stated and she was well within that grace period. How this sleazy man looks himself in the mirror is beyond me. Hey, wonder why Jenny didn’t ask him how much he’s making per hour. I hope Juan does!

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 2:28 pm

      She did ask him. He said he gets a salary only and makes no extra for court appearances, etc

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

      he said he is paid as the president of his non profit institute to make more money than the for profit college he founded.Appearing in court for “the cause” he writes off as part of this “non profit” job. Get it? clever. he can say he doesnt make money while he makes money testifying as p[art of his Institutre.

      • SeniorMoments
        05/01/2013 at 3:19 pm

        I thought it sneaky when JW stated, “so your salary is not increased by your testifying in this trial”. Of course his SALARY from his university job would not increase! That doesn’t mean he is not receiving a payment
        for services rendered in this case.
        It really doesn’t make a difference to me. ALL experts on BOTH sides receive the going rate (or more for the Lees, Badens, Wechts, etc.)Only those employed by the government like the ME, police, criminal investigators, etc get no extra stipend except possibly overtime. It’s just a game that gets played in all such cases to get the jury’s attention.

  235. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:24 pm

    nahhh she’s saying still beat ya!

  236. 05/01/2013 at 2:26 pm

    omg omg that does NOT mean that at all.. omfg he is making this up as he goes along!!!! wow.. i’ve never heard such garbage!!!! omg he is wrong wrong WRONG he is totally misinterpreting those results.. this is disgusting!!!! I can barely listen to this right now

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 2:28 pm

      That’s why he blinking so rapidly – Lies lies lies!!!!

  237. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:27 pm

    That he so easily makes fun of another’s practice is somewhat startling. Dr J’s advisor at Michigan State is shaking her head hearing this gasbag use subjective measures to discredit
    a colleague’s subjective opinion. Of a person he didnt meet or talk to.No pride. For hire.Publicity is money.

  238. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:27 pm

    they findly found a guy that can say sex and sexual as much as they did

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 2:33 pm

      findly_ a version of find, found, and finally

  239. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:27 pm

    well i am secretly hoping that this judge only allowed this BS so that she can watch Juan rip him a new one!!

  240. 05/01/2013 at 2:28 pm

    this guy is a hack!!!!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:28 pm

      Oh yeah! I hear a lot of double-talking going on here!

  241. 05/01/2013 at 2:28 pm

    wheresthejustice :
    Is this guy rebutting Dr. D only….or is he allowed to agree with Dr. Samuel’s PTSD diagnosis, or offer his own? Are there any other witnesses today besides him? Is the judge allowing him to also rebut Dr. Horne? Or did that get shot down too?

    Repost….help plz!!

    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 3:08 pm

      Haven’t been able to find anything on that or weather JM’s request for another witness to refute this one was granted.

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:23 pm

        TJ thx

      • Gracerv7
        05/01/2013 at 4:25 pm

        I did read on another blog, My Crime Time, that Dr. Hayes would be testifying for the State. I’d post link but I don’t know how 😦

  242. Kathy A.
    05/01/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Aaaugh! Please make it stop talking!

  243. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Did DeMarte use the “outdated” test because the was trying to compare Carps findings to her own?

  244. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

    God bless Deanna for being there to support-

  245. 05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

    deanna is in court

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 2:31 pm

      I wrote upstairs… That’s who I think she’s looking at so much today.

  246. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Sure hope the judge has put a time limit on gasbag willlnut!

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 2:33 pm

      I doubt she will, sadly this could go on and on and on. To what point? He’s a completely incompetent idiot. Waiting in Juan is the only thing making it tolerable!

  247. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

    Deanna’s in the courtroom.

  248. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:30 pm

    ahhh and there’s ol whines a lot tattling again! “judge juan is being soooo mean to my ‘expert'” lovely school girl charm, willnot!! NOT

  249. Jane
    05/01/2013 at 2:32 pm

    How is Deanna allowed to sit in court, I thought witnesses were barred watching trial. I’m glad she can.

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 2:33 pm

      Case in chief is over so there is no way they can be recalled. Sky Hughes is also there

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 2:35 pm

      she’s already testified and probably released from her supoena

  250. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 2:32 pm

    of course they increased – she had a girlfriend in jail!

  251. 05/01/2013 at 2:32 pm

    DR Carp’s.. oooh hhhh ohhhh this is the test Dr Demarte ruled out because she realised Jodi had been lying her butt off.. and this is what he is reviewing??? over tiem they were more dominant is his conclusion… De Marte’s conclusion was.. she was lying her freakin arse off as usual

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 2:35 pm

      No, this is the Trauma Inventory that she re-did to see if the results were still valid from when Dr Karp did it . This test she did not invalidate. That was Dodgy’s test for PTSD

      • 05/01/2013 at 2:43 pm

        yes thats what Im talking about.. Dr DeMarte said.. the three results wee so all over the place and put it down to Jodi lying in all of them to varying degrees.. hence they were invalid because they were based on Jodi lying in them

  252. PK
    05/01/2013 at 2:34 pm

    I just noticed an Arizona blood diamond on Willmott’s ring finger. Guess they don’t just get “mined” in Africa.

  253. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 2:34 pm

    I would have a better chance of understanding this idiot if he testified via interpretive dance.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 2:35 pm

      ROFL

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 2:41 pm

      Oh my! That was funny Schaeffer! He should just break out his best Martha Graham!

  254. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:34 pm

    ALL of the tests need to be thrown out! There is NO WAY the ho answered ANY test truthfully……… no doubt she answered them way back when on what she THOUGHT they wanted to hear. She couldn’t tell the truth if her life depends on it! OH YEAH it does!! and she’s STILLLLLLLLL lying. ROT in HELL HODI

  255. 05/01/2013 at 2:34 pm

    hahahah so he is basing all this on the tests De Marte ruled Jodi lied on!!! He just looked at the data and didn’t take jodi lying into consideration.

    OK.. NOW see it??? sound familiar???

  256. JesusFreak
    05/01/2013 at 2:35 pm

    Syntara :
    I’ll give you a direct example of what he is doing.
    You know how I did that PCL-R of the character Jodistein?
    I had to create a fictitious persona or it would breach ethical grounds because I have never sat down with her and obtained raw data.
    That’s what he is doing here… claiming to know things he cannot legitimately endorse or should not be legitimately endorsing.. because he does not have the raw data.. ie he has never got the answers from her and created his own graphs to do an assessment.
    It’s bordering unethical at the very least… at least morally if not professionally.

    ok. ty. now i understand what he and you guys are saying. thanks for the help me get aboard this train. ive been going “what” “duh”.

  257. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 2:36 pm

    what??? you have to answer the questions he says with chuckles. where did this guy come from?

  258. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 2:36 pm

    nooo Syn see upstairs. This isn’t the test Dr D threw out

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:39 pm

      Ya.. i think it is.. you are thinking of the scales she said were not relevant.. this is the PSI.. ie the one De Marte re did because she felt Jodi had lied to Dr Carp about.

  259. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 2:39 pm

    When are we going to talk about the brutal slaughter of Travis and what this trial is all about? Hello – folks on the defense – remember why we’re all here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 2:42 pm

      In Juan’s closing. The defense is going to stay far far away of that. And how could I or you or any of us forget!!

  260. Jane
    05/01/2013 at 2:41 pm

    Good grief ..she became psycho after the murder due to PTSD.

  261. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:42 pm

    Maybe Juan shouldnt cross. Just say no questions of this gasbag. The jurors saw and heard Dr Janeen. They can evaluate her. They can also evaluate this asshole without me helping them. Next!

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:44 pm

      ya but he has to help Dr DeMarte out here. He can’t let this crap stand.

  262. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:43 pm

    “what that means more in English”–the distinguished professor just said that sentence.

  263. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:43 pm

    i hope Dr. D is watching and that she and Juan have a phone call over lunch
    How dare you you old GOAT..(and as y’all say… no offense to the goat!)
    FFS how is this a “limited sur rebuttal”???? they should have been told they have no more than 3 hours and it’s done! SHUT UP WHINESALOT

  264. WhereIsSHE
    05/01/2013 at 2:44 pm

    Trust me… the jury has had more than enough of the dueling experts.
    They get it: Jodi’s psych experts say “X”, and the state’s psych expert says “Y”.
    Problem for Jodi, one of her psych experts said “personality disorder, not otherwise specified”
    So, the ONE thing that experts on BOTH sides agree with is that Jodi has a personality disorder.

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 2:45 pm

      Exactly

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:46 pm

      he has not said she has a personality disorder.. he is trying to chalk her results up to a ‘trauma’ not even identifying the trauma cos he can’t because Dr Dodgy’s results are based on a trauma that never occured.. ie the ninjas.

      • WhereIsSHE
        05/01/2013 at 2:49 pm

        yeah, Syn.. i can hear him
        i was referring to Dr. Samuel’s diagnosis of personality disorder not otherwise specified

    • WhereIsSHE
      05/01/2013 at 2:46 pm

      LOL! He said testing does not support a finding of a personality disorder.
      DR FOG said “personality disorder, NOS”!

      There is almost TOO much for Juan to cross him on!

  265. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:45 pm

    He edits the magazine he founded and says “Us in editorial” in a sentence using “us” as the subject and then the instant classic: what that means more in English”

  266. TexiBelle
    05/01/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Isn’t this new witness just ALV in a wig and mustache??

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 2:50 pm

      Very good!

    • TexiBelle
      05/01/2013 at 2:52 pm

      Must be the undereye bags and rodenty teeth…

      • Moon
        05/01/2013 at 3:17 pm

        hahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahaaaaaaaaa

  267. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 2:47 pm

    bahahahahahahahaha

  268. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 2:47 pm

    JW said “If someone got PTSD from an abusive relationship . . . ” like it is something one catches, like the clap. Does she think the WOBO has an STD? Is that why she makes no sense in any of her lines of questioning?

  269. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Did he just burp???????????????

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 2:48 pm

      Yes!

    • Wendy
      05/01/2013 at 2:48 pm

      yes he did

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 2:55 pm

      Omg..how funny!

  270. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:47 pm

    I could not listen to this guy for a 50 minute class. I’d quit the school.

  271. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Yeah, sure! Aren’t ALL people suffering from PTSD capable of trying to cover their murderous tracks, then go on a romantic weekend hours after slaughtering their ex lover, buying a 9mm gun, and plan to go camping with a group of men (only)? Well, of course!!!

    Holy sh*t! he just burped! I’m crying! Lol!!!!!

    • Kathy A.
      05/01/2013 at 3:01 pm

      Of course they are. It’s a coping mechanism. A girl’s got to do what a girl’s got to do.

  272. 05/01/2013 at 2:48 pm

    Basically he is talking about 3 sets of results..

    1. Dr Dodgy’s that was based on ninjas
    2. Dr Carp that Dr DeMarte says were wildly different because Jodi lied on it
    3. Hers which was somewhere in between the other two but closer to Dodgy’s

  273. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:48 pm

    omg lolol

    wanker wanker wanker

    well he’s just burping now……….

    he will be shitting his pants once Juan is up there!!!

    and nooo Robert! Don’t deny us the privledge of watching this guy go D. O. W.N.!!!

  274. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:48 pm

    OMG! Spare the jury! pare us! Spare the Grandma!

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 2:51 pm

      Poor Gramma breaks my heart…

    • Moon
      05/01/2013 at 3:05 pm

      sorry, but I don’t and can’t have any sympathy for granny (except that it seems she was forced to attend for ‘sympathy’) — she raised the ho’s mom and crazy is as crazy does.

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 4:45 pm

        I agree with u

  275. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:49 pm

    Jesus he is burping!
    Christ

    • NapaNonnie
      05/01/2013 at 2:53 pm

      He must have had a Bud Light and Lime-a-Rita before testifying. I’m listening on ear buds and got the full effect. I think I got some foam in my ear.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 2:55 pm

        LOL!!!!

      • Moon
        05/01/2013 at 3:11 pm

        roflmfao

  276. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 2:49 pm

    he’s reading what he’s supposed to say – gimme a freakin break!!!! loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  277. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 2:50 pm

    Ok Times up

  278. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:52 pm

    hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaaaaaaa

  279. Dewey
    05/01/2013 at 2:52 pm

    Since this has to be wrapped up today, will both sides get equal time? Could the defense keep this guy on the stand so long that Juan will have less time for his cross?

  280. 05/01/2013 at 2:53 pm

    I cant believe he is basing it on the lies.. good it’s so obvious FINALLY… the jury will get this now he has finally had to actually qualify what he is basing his ‘conclusions’ on

  281. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 2:53 pm

    Juan has a veritable smorgasbord to choose from when it’s his turn to impeach this twit!

    • 05/01/2013 at 2:55 pm

      I don’t know where he is going to start.. there is SO much!!!! I don’t envy him! probably start with the lies.. ie the PTSD diagnosis being based on the ninjas , the Carp one elevated cos Jodi lied… then go from there I guess.

  282. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 2:53 pm

    I feel the lunch break coming!

  283. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:54 pm

    without “vaidity scales” can it be used? Sure. Ok. All based on self report. Then you ask about an incident. Were you afraid? And you check off the boxes. The test tells you things. (You dont have to talk with a person I guess)” The painting was a blend of emotional cools and drollops of harsh, sudden tenderness” says one critic. “The painting was bereft of emotion and sullied the whole concept. It is rough and undefined” says the other.Ok Got it.
    Thanks. Now I guess you go back to the institute!.

  284. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 2:55 pm

    I bet Mike B is SO happy he’s off today!

  285. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Ack!!!!! Tiger vs Bear question!!!!!

  286. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 2:56 pm

    omg ……… you POS has been why don’t you go get attacked by a fn tiger and a fn bear you dumbass

  287. 05/01/2013 at 2:56 pm

    hhhhhhhahahahaha lolol!!!! rabbit hole now!!!!

  288. 05/01/2013 at 2:57 pm

    I would NEVER do this to my own career… or anyone elses.. I must just have too much integrity I guess.

    • Dewey
      05/01/2013 at 3:11 pm

      Amazing how many people will do anything if you offer them enough money.

  289. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 2:59 pm

    let me ask that in a diffeernt way.The tiger and bear analogy???? Very sneaky. Shebabbled in an undecipherable way and then asked the “question” ina different way and then threw in the bear/tiger.Sneaky.

  290. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 2:59 pm

    JA:
    I have had a tramatic event ( I killed someone)
    I have been assaulted (supposedly in jail by another inmate I kicked and pushed)
    I am in Jail (because I killed someone)
    I have trouble sleeping (because I am in Jail)
    I am avoiding the incident (because I am lying about killing someone)
    I feel my future is limited (because I am in jail for murder and may be convicted)
    Has this effected your relationships. school/work (yes I cant have any – I am in jail for murder)

    Dr. G…The event doesn’t matter -The fact she is lying about the event or abuse doesn’t matter , She has PTSD so she victimized and abused. Wow the defense has built one hell of a bridge.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 3:00 pm

      pretty well sums up her life now!!!!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 3:01 pm

      don’t forget, and I may be put to death in the near future 🙂

      • truejustice
        05/01/2013 at 3:03 pm

        AMEN

  291. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 2:59 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Everyone keeps talking about the burp by Dr. G. Yes, he did burp on the stand but was very polite afterwards

    Nothing like letting the world know about his lack of class and manners!!! 🙂 love it, love it, love it!!!

  292. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 3:01 pm

    DT trying to run the clock out so as not to let JM have any/much time to cross since they have to be done TODAY. Yeah right.

    Killing me softly with his song♫

  293. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 3:01 pm

    OK it 12:02 SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  294. WhereIsSHE
    05/01/2013 at 3:03 pm

    The tiger vs. bear juror question rears it’s head again.
    I didn’t like it when I heard it, and it’s clear that the defense thinks they have a friend in whomever posed that question.

    Like I said at that time, I wish Dr. M had answered it better.
    This guy is ASSUMING (as is indicated by the question) that being chased by a dangerous, wild animal is AUTOMATICALLY a “traumatic” event. That’s not necessarily true though.

    While MOST people would experience BOTH of those events “traumatic”, that does not mean that ALL people would experience BOTH or even ONE of those events as “traumatic”.
    (Some people get a THRILL out of dangerous encounters and actually live for that kind of adrenalyne rush, for example.)

    Some people might find one of those experiences as traumatic

  295. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 3:04 pm

    Ian Howie ‏@Micsterator
    @stark3923 Thx Chris. What a difference (one side of room vs. other) Respectful, appropriate attire, restrained vs. smug, rude. #jodiarias

  296. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 3:05 pm
    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 3:09 pm

      LOL 🙂

  297. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 3:05 pm

    I wish my lunch was 1hr 15 min. I need to go to work for the county government

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 3:07 pm

      Yes, and that an “abbreviated lunch”. Lol

  298. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 3:05 pm

    Willnot: that is the Wexler thing that test? Thats!the wexler one right? “cognitive functioning” is the prof’s word in “my language he says, its “spatial relations” Oh OK Gee You’re so smart you probably founded your own college!

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:07 pm

      I’m not actually sure it is spatial relations… to me spatial relations is more the puzzle part… so I think he is wrong anyhow.. but I need to see exactly what he is talking about to be sure on that one.

  299. 05/01/2013 at 3:05 pm

    All this tells me is this guy is so insignificant in his field that the only way he can feel relevant is to get on the stand, undermine his own field and try to rip to shreds the career of a budding diamond in the profession he has obviously dismally failed in.

    Professional jealousy and his own insecurities leads him to do this.. he’s a pathetic man.. and maybe the legal system needs people like him.. but to me it doesn’t say much for the direction our systems are taking if this is what we are going to get in the future.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 4:12 pm

      beauifully said;right on the button; perfect pitch..

  300. Kathy A.
    05/01/2013 at 3:06 pm

    The only saving grace with this questioning is that Nurmi isn’t doing it. I don’t like JW, but OMG could you imagine Nurmi and this guy going back and forth?

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:12 pm

      …………..eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeannnnnnnnndddddddd……………..

      • 05/01/2013 at 3:27 pm

        ………:Ooookaaaaay……..::::

  301. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 3:07 pm

    Yeah well at Aviant U they may not study it but at MSU they do.So FK you.

  302. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 3:08 pm

    WOBO and Flamenco in warm embrace. Ahhh soft and fuzzy feelings.

  303. WhereIsSHE
    05/01/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Willmott is dragging this out in an attempt to ensure that the jury is PHYSICALLY tired (and, emotionally, ” sick and tired” of having to sit through this) by the time Juan gets to cross this guy.

    My bet is this will backfire on her, and badly.
    A) The guy is BORING, and her questions are not making him more tolerable; and
    B) Something tells me they will all WAKE UP as soon as Juan steps to the plate;)

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 3:09 pm

      I hope so. I was thinking she was screwing them with the clock.

    • Kathy A.
      05/01/2013 at 3:48 pm

      Part of the problem is also that it’s painfully clear that Willnot really doesn’t understand the subject matter she’s asking about. Neither do I all the time, but I’m not doing a direct examination of a witness. Whenever I hear her stumbling over a question or pretending to understand an answer, it reminds me of times when my son will say something to me like “Mom, can I ask you to do me a favor? Would you call the gaming store for me and find out if they have the Blood Angels codex in stock?” I’m on the phone secretly thinking “Please don’t ask me any questions…I have no clue what I’m talking about.” JW seems to question by rote. Oh, and for those of you who are just dying to know, the Blood Angels are a set of figures, a sort of army unit, and the codex is an instruction manual that lays out powers and plays. I feel so empowered by my knowledge. 🙂

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 4:16 pm

        In a trial filled with disjunctive images and discombobulated characters, I too found myself a bit surprised that Ms, Willnotwin didn’t spend a little time learning a little about the field she was going to discuss in a DIRECT for cryin’ out loud.
        Sloppy and egocentric experts, equivacating and evading witnesses and, to top it all, a totally unprepared lawyer. Perfect storm?

  304. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Oh that Judge Stephens what a slave driver! She gets her court moving! She gave an “abbreviated” lunch of 1 hour and 15 minbutes! That oughta move it along.

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:09 pm

      hahaha I was thinking the same.. sheesh how about an hour???

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 3:13 pm

      Yep – she’s cracking the whip now!!!

  305. PK
    05/01/2013 at 3:09 pm

    As a biochemist/IP attorney, I must say that as one who never placed much validity in any social “sciences,” my opinion has been thoroughly confirmed today by Dr. Grayaway. There must be a test to make self professed know it all egomaniacs like him him disappear

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 3:10 pm

      from your keyboard to God’s ears.

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:11 pm

      yeah well it’s people like this who make my profession look bad.. which is why I am so incensed by it. Don’t underestimate the social sciences when they are in competent hands.

      • 05/01/2013 at 3:12 pm

        and by the way.. the defense team isn’t doing much for the legal profession either!

      • PK
        05/01/2013 at 3:14 pm

        No offense Syn, but psychology is best served determining the best colors to adorn product packaging to induce impulse buying. Beyond that it is all very iffy at best, IMO.

      • 05/01/2013 at 3:17 pm

        hard not to take offense to a ridiculous statement like that

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 4:23 pm

        it was qualified by: “must be a test to make…..egomaniacs like him disappear” and that was the part I was responding to. Of course the issue of many experts or any at all is another argumento.

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 4:47 pm

        Don’t think so PK. . U must not have a lot of education in the study of the brain.

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:15 pm

      Yes…it’s called the ‘Juan Martinez Litmus Test’! Apply a few cleverly worded questions from JM, and *poof* he will disappear…along with his ‘career’!

      • Nienna
        05/01/2013 at 3:23 pm

        🙂

  306. PK
    05/01/2013 at 3:17 pm

    Defense attorneys ofter had undergraduate degrees in the social sciences. No surprise there!

    • Darcy
      05/01/2013 at 3:34 pm

      That’s bordering on a gross overgeneralization. Why the antipathy toward social science? Tell us what you majored in and why you’re qualified to judge? I mean, there are horrible hairdressers and plumbers, as well as people with advanced degrees. It doesn’t mean that you attack the profession.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 4:53 pm

        one amog many “courtesy flushes” I see

  307. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 3:19 pm

    Syntara :
    and by the way.. the defense team isn’t doing much for the legal profession either!

    Isn’t that the truth.

  308. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 3:20 pm

    wow …. scrolling up and literally PMSL

    Thank you alll!!! definately couldn’t have made it thru that gassy mess w/out all of you!

  309. 05/01/2013 at 3:25 pm

    I hope juan is up soon… I need affirmation that he can cut through this guys bullshite and readjust me to reality.

  310. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/01/2013 at 3:27 pm

    We hope JM asks the question…..how do these tests work if the jackass may have been lying in each of them???? How do you come up with an answer with lying being the basis of the test???? Hmmmmm…..Gasbag?!!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:29 pm

      EXactly my dear ladies!!! that is what I am assuming he will start with… any bets??

  311. PK
    05/01/2013 at 3:35 pm

    Syn. When I was an undergraduate, most psychosis was the result of “learned” behavior.according to the experts in psychology. But that was before the social scientists realized how the chemistry of the brain, both normal and abnormal is what determines most behavior, normal and abnormal. Jodi has no brain damage, no fog no anything but an attitude of a self serving bitch who gets her way or it’s the highway or worse for anybody who defies her wishes. No psychology needed to figure out who and what she is.

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:39 pm

      NO psychology needed is that right? Then how come so many on this blog have said I have educated them with so much they otherwise would not have understood?

      • dpforjodi
        05/01/2013 at 3:43 pm

        yes and thankyou Syntara. I would have fallen asleep without your commentary.

      • PK
        05/01/2013 at 3:53 pm

        Sorry Syn, I fail to see where any valuable knowledge has been added to psychology since the demise of B.F. Skinner and his discoveries in the field of learned behavior. Polygraphs can be fooled, any and all psychological tests can be manipulated and interpretation is always open to interpretation. I hope the jury can see past the psycho smoke and mirrors as well when they deliberate JA’s fate.

      • C.I,
        05/01/2013 at 4:01 pm

        sorry PK bit I for 1 will stickup or Syn – she has done so much for all of us – explaining all this for us so that we didn’t develop a fog. She is a behavioural scientist, and has made a life long career of it – and in my book that makes her more qualfied than any of the DT so called experts and most of us. Syn and I have had great discussion here of Jodisteins thinking process. No offense PK bu it is not nice to insults ones profession, please play nice in the sandbox.

      • C.I,
        05/01/2013 at 4:15 pm

        Please excuse the typo – trying to eat lunch and type

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 4:18 pm

        I’m siding with Syn on this one as well. I have learned so much from her.

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 4:37 pm

        I am a psychology IGNO- I took Psyc101 in college- mistakenly, because I thought it would be a “blow off class” – That was the extent of my knowledge. WITHOUT SYN, I would never have understood ANYTHING about what JA did, said or behaved like.

    • Moon
      05/01/2013 at 4:08 pm

      I agree with: “ho has no brain damage, no fog ….. up to …defies her wishes”.
      i totally DISagree with the rest.

      The fascination come in with behvioural science to figure out WHY.

  312. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/01/2013 at 3:38 pm

    Does anyone think that La La Toilet may have warned this old fart about JM and what to look out for?! We hope he acts just like her on cross so the jury will see him for what he is…..just another old fart full of hot air with a bad dye job!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:41 pm

      ya I am assuming he has been warned by lala, dodgy and the defense team.. I’m expecting his face to turn bright red and hiccups galore! He’ll probably be sweating and drinking a heap of water!

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        05/01/2013 at 3:46 pm

        Let’s just hope that sick burp is the only bodily function that comes out when he gets to cross! If not, look for him to be farting white dust……the OLD Gasbag! Geeezzzz….where did the Duh-fence go for these so called experts…..a geriatric funny farm?!!

      • 05/01/2013 at 3:48 pm

        hahahah you read my mind.. I was thinking.. and what other bodily functions might he lose control of!!

    • Dewey
      05/01/2013 at 3:45 pm

      Doesnt matter how well prepared he thinks he is for Juan, he wont be able to smartass his way out of this. It didn’t work for ALV or JA.

  313. GN5020
    05/01/2013 at 3:41 pm

    I still don’t understand this, so I’m hoping others on this blog can help me …

    What is the value of whether or not psychological tests show PTSD or not? And why the nit-picking on the “trauma”? If all the tests were given to JA after she murdered TA, no matter what her story at the time, how can they determine if the symptoms of PTSD (not sleeping, anxiety, etc.) are due to trauma inflicted upon her by someone before the murder, or the actual trauma (and subsequent guilt) of committing premeditated murder? Even if the defense experts could convincingly show that she showed symptoms of PTSD on tests, that doesn’t mean she had any trauma BEFORE the murder to cause her fog, her fear and reaction to an implied threat, or any of the anxiety she has shown while in jail since. Nor does it add anything to the Domestic Violence defense because they can’t show a correlation between those symptoms and the alleged abuse before the murder.

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:45 pm

      As far as I can see the DT needs the PTSD diagnosis primarily to explain the ‘fog’ and of course it helps justify the DV claim which in turn attempts to explain the murder.

  314. Anonymous
    05/01/2013 at 3:44 pm

    weakest judge i have ever seen!!!

  315. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 3:46 pm

    Darcy :That’s bordering on a gross overgeneralization. Why the antipathy toward social science? Tell us what you majored in and why you’re qualified to judge? I mean, there are horrible hairdressers and plumbers, as well as people with advanced degrees. It doesn’t mean that you attack the profession.

    waaahoooo darcy!! nice flush

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:49 pm

      ya but unfortunately we got floaties!!

      • PK
        05/01/2013 at 3:59 pm

        Not a floatie, Syn, just not on Team Syn when it comes to giving the field of abnormal psychology any credibility as we have learned first hand during this trial. One opinion, then another then another and on and on and on!

      • Moon
        05/01/2013 at 4:13 pm

        i see and smell that.
        what a shame

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 4:41 pm

        Um, that’s why I proposed “courtesy flushes”.

  316. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 3:49 pm

    wow over 600 posts and it’s only lunch! i wonder if donchais will need to open a new sandbox before her wonderful summary (looking forward to reading that, too!!)

    • 05/01/2013 at 3:51 pm

      sometimes I wonder why I bother when there is a DT witness on direct…. cos reading Donchais’ summary when I wake.. then sourcing youtube… it’s just far less painful and way more satisfying!

      • Ci Ci's Circle
        05/01/2013 at 3:56 pm

        That’s why we keep it on mute for the most part and follow the comments here and on Wild About Trial. We’ll turn it up if we read that something significant is going on. Otherwise….pffft!

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:00 pm

        pppffft is right! pffffft sums up this whole defense ‘strategy’!

      • Midnight Rider
        05/01/2013 at 6:32 pm

        Same here, Syn! And by the way, YOU GO, GIRL! As knowledgeable and obviously passionate as you are about your field, I add my support to you! You have INDEED made all of this so much easier to understand for we who are novices! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Keep up the great work!

  317. SeniorMoments
    05/01/2013 at 3:53 pm

    I hope that JM makes SHORT order of him on cross and is able to use his witness to QUICKLY address any holes which may be determined and then REFOCUS on the murder. The jury MUST be done with this, just like we are. PTSD? She doesn’t remember the stabbing? Who cares? She did it! He hasn’t really supported ALV yet. How long will that take? Perhaps he will limit his testimony only to attacking DeMarte, but not likely! The DT will find a sneaky way to insert their points, even if not clearly allowed in sur-rebuttal.

  318. GN5020
    05/01/2013 at 3:54 pm

    But my problem with that is a PTSD diagnosis would be based on symptoms which could be from the person having planned and committed a murder, rather than being a victim of any kind of domestic violence. There is no way to determine which, so I don’t think a PTSD diagnosis justifies anything.

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:02 pm

      Has the judge allowed Juan to bring in his witness to support DeMarte? Does anyone know?

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:03 pm

        😳 OOPS!! wrong place… should be new thread tier.

      • PK
        05/01/2013 at 4:04 pm

        Why… They are all just opinions, right?

  319. 05/01/2013 at 4:04 pm

    Did we hear whether Dr. Hayes will be testifying for the pros.? If not, why not? I haven’t seen anything comment about this and I,ve been looking on other venues.

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:06 pm

      ya that’s what I’m asking above but it went to the wrong place!

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:15 pm

        Syntara :
        ya that’s whatI’m asking above but it went to the wrong place!

        I keep checking twitter but nothing on this?..

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:18 pm

        so do we assume judge stephens denied it? or is it just that no-one knows?

    • LindaLou
      05/01/2013 at 4:52 pm

      I heard this AM Beth Kara’s said Dr. Jill would be testifying. Also thought someone pasted tweet from WAT that she would be. I’ll look for it above.

  320. Ann Dash
    05/01/2013 at 4:05 pm

    I would like to know why the judge demands that Travis Alexander’s family members not show any emotional misconduct during the trial, yet Jodi Arias’ family chatters and laughs like they are at a party. Why does Judge Stephens not have more control over her courtroom. It is very disheartening to watch.

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:12 pm

      Personally I find it very hard to watch when the camera pans to the gallery. I couldn’t agree with your sentiments more. It’s infuriating to me.

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 4:18 pm

      Yes! But just be satisified knowing that the jury sees what we see. TA’s family in proper attire, behaving as they should and being respectful of the court. And then JA’s family doing what they do.

    • Kathy A.
      05/01/2013 at 4:48 pm

      I completely agree. I’m sure the Alexander family finds nothing to laugh about in this courtroom, and I would certainly hope if I were a defendant fighting for my life, my mother wouldn’t be there chatting and giggling like she was at happy hour; I believe I would tell her to stay home if that were the case, but then Jodi and her mother and aunt operate from a totally different reality than I do.

  321. 05/01/2013 at 4:09 pm

    PK :
    Why… They are all just opinions, right?
    </
    huh?

    • PK
      05/01/2013 at 4:20 pm

      See post 656. My response was to that question

  322. PK
    05/01/2013 at 4:18 pm

    This notion that the prosecution psychologists are always right and the defense psychologists are all quacks is a bit Juan sided. They are all hired to support one theory or another and that is NOT science, period! I personally preferred listening to Jane Lynce on Two and a Half Men but that was probably because she had some great script writers.

  323. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 4:18 pm

    well if whinesalot keeps her crap up, will there even be time for Juan’s witness? Is that judge planning on feeding the jurors the evening meal? she DID say it would go until they finish!

    also, my guess is la toilette gifted this old wanker with one of her depends!

  324. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 4:21 pm

    All of these expert witness psychologists that have been a huge part of this trial would never have testified at all if not for the fact that she claimed BWS & self defense. It’s ALL been a HUGE smokescreen that has overshadowed the premeditation and vicious & brutal slaughter.

    • PK
      05/01/2013 at 4:28 pm

      Where do you go when you need to make a real big smokescreen? Psychbusters!

      • Midnight Rider
        05/01/2013 at 6:43 pm

        PK, from the things you keep saying, it sounds like you have a problem with Psycologists and the whole field! Is there something in your past that makes you so negetively oppinionated about it? I’m asking a serious question here…

  325. donchais
    05/01/2013 at 4:22 pm
    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 4:27 pm

      not exactly glowing . yikes

  326. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 4:26 pm

    so much for the “shortened” lunch!

  327. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 4:28 pm

    PK I truly hope that a time never comes where you require the services of a good psychologist or psychiatrist. If you do, I hope you don’t end up with a couple of hired guns who are no longer relevant or up to date to help you.

    Just like you could go to a medical doctor and get an “opinion”, there are good ones and quacks.

    Being an attorney you should know as well as any profession that there are always those who are ready to sell their soul for the money or the attention. Some are excellent, some are simply lousy. jmo

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:33 pm

      Amen sister! MMD- I was forming my thoughts to respond when I read your post. You captured what I wanted to express.

    • PK
      05/01/2013 at 4:34 pm

      Hey MMD, I admit I am prejudiced. I witnessed too many psychology doctorate candidates in the lab next to mine throwing white rats to the floor for the final solution when they did not cooperate with the expected results of what was to be the next scientific breakthrough. Enough on that subject.

  328. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 4:30 pm

    jeeeeeeeeez PK who pissed in your post toaties???? this playground has been Juansided from the get-go. there are other sites for those that aren’t Juanside. Just sayin…..

  329. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 4:33 pm

    And away we go…………………………….yawn

  330. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 4:33 pm

    PK :
    No offense Syn, but psychology is best served determining the best colors to adorn product packaging to induce impulse buying. Beyond that it is all very iffy at best, IMO.

    Well lets not paint in too broad a stroke, eh? Surely as a lawyer and biochemist you know that the workings of the mind have been studied for a century with advancing understanding of behavioral traits, of nature and nurture concerns. It is a combination of art and science, and it some ways akin to literature, esthetics, economics, psychoanalysis,,political science, and the law. Perhaps your own work and interests have been beyond the playing fields of psychology; as somewhat of a generalist myself, even though I make fun of profession(als) its a sretch to think whole fields are empty of thought and tradition and data and good works.

    ,

    • PK
      05/01/2013 at 4:37 pm

      I admit I am prejudiced. I witnessed too many psychology doctorate candidates in the lab next to mine throwing white rats to the floor for the final solution when they did not cooperate with the expected results of what was to be the next scientific breakthrough.

      • 05/01/2013 at 5:35 pm

        I’ve always been fascinated with how messed up people in the psychological profession are themselves (not in all cases and all people here are excluded) in a lot of cases. It’s like they’re drawn to psychology cuz they’re so messed up themselves. Just my own anecdotal experience….

  331. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:36 pm

    Come on, you can get it out!!!!!

  332. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:36 pm

    Important to know how close he lives to lala

  333. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:38 pm

    Trying to clear up his bad record………

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:40 pm

      Yeah….before JM does!

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:43 pm

        ya.. pre-emptive attack… nothing to see here.. riiiiiight!!

  334. 05/01/2013 at 4:39 pm

    I’m ready to throw my computer out the window after watching and listening to this blowhard. What a joke he is. I’m pulling my hair out.

  335. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 4:39 pm

    Anybody else watching on WAT finding it sometimes repeats or skips????

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 4:41 pm

      I watch WAT… Haven’t had those issues. Sorry 😦

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 4:41 pm

      Yes!! And before lunch it was constantly getting stuck……..

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 4:41 pm

      That or I’m just tuning it out.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 4:45 pm

      Ok just wondered. It only happens occasionally but since I’ve tuned out most of this guy, I only really noticed it when we started up after lunch. It’s stopped now, hopefully.

    • TexiBelle
      05/01/2013 at 4:51 pm

      Maybe the WAT feed is having trouble staying awake. Like the rest of us.

  336. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:40 pm

    Jodi appears to have worn out her left hand.
    Good view of her long, spider like killing hands today.

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:45 pm

      she’s definitely drawing or something. she’s up in the right corner of that paper a lot.. then in the middle… I think she is drawing stick men again

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 4:45 pm

        or playing hangman with herself 😉

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:47 pm

        well good.. then no matter what the outcome she gets hung!

      • Anonymous
        05/01/2013 at 5:01 pm

        Or perhaps hangman?

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 4:46 pm

      She has the ugliest, strangest hands that I’ve seen in a woman (and I use that term loosely) in a very long time.

  337. Gracerv7
    05/01/2013 at 4:45 pm

    Just when you thought the Jodi Arias murder trial couldn’t get much stranger, abcnews.com is reporting that the prosecution has requested their own expert in rebuttal to the defense’s surrebuttal witness Dr. Robert Geffner. abcnews.com reported this morning that the prosecution will call Dr. Jill Hayes, a forensic psychologist licensed in Arizona and Louisiana to testify. Copy and pasted from My Crime Time

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 4:47 pm

      They should bring dinner in for these poor jurors if they go thru the dinner time.

  338. 05/01/2013 at 4:46 pm

    man considering they are on a time limit they sure seem to be wasting a lot of it

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 4:47 pm

      well of course Syn, they have no case so they have to blather on! Plus once this case is over, then the gravy train ends for them.

      • 05/01/2013 at 4:51 pm

        true..and they probably don’t believe judge stephens will make them work late anyhow…. can’t say I’m not sceptical about that also .. and not thinking I’m robinson crusoe on that one.

  339. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:46 pm

    Willnut is trying hard to look interested!

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:48 pm

      aren’t we all!

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 4:50 pm

        Nope, not at all. I only hear blah, blah, blah…………………

      • C.I.
        05/01/2013 at 7:20 pm

        Sorry Syn, turned the volume off – can’t listen to her voice anymore – I will read yours and everyones cliff notes.

      • 05/01/2013 at 7:23 pm

        ok Juan is done.. and so am I… can’t understand the comments.. totally lost where what ends and what begins and some on the bottom… I dunno… soo Im off and will watch the rest on youtube.

  340. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 4:47 pm

    Now hes talkng about committees he’s headed up! Its after lunch and this guy is STILL telling us how great and important he is. What he has been unable to do, is to “show” us any intelligence or extended thought as in a conversation . He -very much like LaLa Toilette found a goldmine in them thar hills of social problems. And they went mining for their place in the sun. The good ones, show their worth and people gladly pay; the hack ones rid e the govt milktrain or “foundations and non-profits” to “educate and reform” all the naughty people out there. I thought of a line from John Stuart Mill’s ‘On Liberty”:

    “The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant.”.

  341. PK
    05/01/2013 at 4:47 pm

    Here we go again…Neuropsychologist = grades not good enough to get into a ACCREDITED medical school to specialize in psychiatry to go beyond quack status

  342. donchais
    05/01/2013 at 4:48 pm

    Danger Will Robinson…if the crap continues, I WILL shut the comments down. Cut it out!

    • stephanie
      05/01/2013 at 6:16 pm

      Hey donchais? I know this has nothing to do with what you just said but I was right here and had a thought so I might as well ask. Back in the day you used to post kind of a play by play with things like what the jurors were doing and all during the trial and thing of that nature (I hope you know what I am talking about). I found it quite funny. Not that what you are doing now isn’t but anyway just wondering.

  343. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 4:48 pm

    Wish they would zoom in on what the praying mantis is drawing. Interested in which of TA’s family members she’ll draw next.

    • 05/01/2013 at 4:53 pm

      oh me too!!!! I so would love to know!

  344. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 4:49 pm

    Syntara :
    well good.. then no matter what the outcome she gets hung!

    😀

  345. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:50 pm

    And his voice is just droning on and on and on and on and on & on & on & on-on-on-on-on!!!!!!!!!
    I’m ready to scream very loud!!!!

    • Nienna
      05/01/2013 at 4:51 pm

      Grab a pillow and have at it. It helps!

  346. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 4:51 pm

    Is he going to dispute Horns testimony now ? This is gonna irritate me substantially.

    • Kathy A.
      05/01/2013 at 4:54 pm

      I know! He’s not an M.D.!

  347. 05/01/2013 at 4:52 pm

    Marilyn N :
    And his voice is just droning on and on and on and on and on & on & on & on-on-on-on-on!!!!!!!!!,l
    I’m ready to scream very loud!!!!

    I feel your pain…..!!!!

  348. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 4:52 pm

    JM SOS!! (save our sanity)

  349. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 4:53 pm

    Frontal lobe injuries … that means AFTER medical care has been rendered. Not when they initially lapse from consiousness from being shot in the head .

  350. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 4:53 pm

    OK folks, we getting to the home stretch so let’s agree to disagree and move on to hopefully JM’s cross. We truly don’t want to get Donchais all upset and close down our playground.
    Hugs to everyone – we’re almost there.

    Let’s stay together to get justice for Travis and the Alexander family.

    stepping off soapbox now………………………..

  351. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 4:54 pm

    He hasn’t treated patients in a longggg time

  352. 05/01/2013 at 4:54 pm

    I have been reading this blog for a few weeks and have written a few posts. I’ve been both drawn to and distracted from this trial because I was also closely watching the wheels of justice turn for two pieces of crap who brutally murdered a very good friend of mine on or about September 20, 2012. Like Travis, Santiago, or “Z” as I called him, wasn’t discovered for 5 days and a defense attorney has attempted to destroy his reputation. It’s despicable. I understand the need for defense attorneys, but I don’t see how they can live with themselves. Here’s a short description of my friend, the crime, and the outcome.
    The morning of September 25 I had the shock of my life as I was getting ready for work when I saw on the morning news a report that my good friend, Santiago Zapata, Jr. was found dead in his basement of “traumatic injuries” and they were launching a homicide investigation. I was stunned.
    I met Z in 1993 when he came to work for the same program funded by the US Department of Education designed to help low-income, at-risk middle and high school students and help prepare them for success in postsecondary school. I had the privilege of working with him for over 12 years until I received a promotion & was transferred out of ETS. Z was the most dedicated and passionate advocate for at-risk kids I have ever met. He went above and beyond his job description every day. He organized Thanksgiving feasts for underprivileged families at the middle schools where he advised. He was a volunteer basketball coach at the YMCA. He touched a thousand different students in a million different ways. He took in Dream Act-eligible kids whose parents were in danger of deportation. He took in the battered mom of one of his students, along with the student and his 3 brothers and sisters. He helped countless kids better their lives.
    The police arrested 2 suspects a few days later thanks to a Silent Witness tip and great police work by the GRPD & FBI Taskforce. They were arraigned on felony murder charges. They stabbed and beat Z to death because he refused to give them his wallet. He was a generous guy but didn’t tolerate bullshit. They then dragged him to the basement and left him to die next to his beloved foosball table. Each one is blaming the other for stabbing him, but they both went to Z’s home carrying a knife with the intent to rob him. I think they went there intending to murder Z and nothing could’ve stopped them. For Z’s life, they got his car that they abandoned and his ATM card that they couldn’t get to work. I am furious.
    Prosecutors decided to try them simultaneously with individual juries & courtrooms down the hall from one another. The verdict for one came in last week but was sealed until the other jury had reached a verdict. I went to court for closing arguments on Monday and the wait was on. We were just about to get something to drink at the hot dog stand across the street when the bailiff announced that the jury had reached a verdict. All of 40 minutes had passed. The prosecutor said that he’s never seen a jury come back that fast; one of the defense attorneys said that this case was particularly difficult to defend because “the victim was such a nice guy. All he did his whole life was help people, even one of the defendants.” The co-defendant of Z’s former student tried to pull some bullshit about how the former student was a victim of sexual abuse by Z and that it was “a crime of passion.” Sound familiar? Z worked with hundreds and hundreds of students and not one of them has EVER accused him of anything improper. I was always worried that Z didn’t distance himself enough from his students because, frankly, I was afraid of something like this. Some of our students were pretty hard core. Even Z’s POS former student said that what his c-defendant was claiming wasn’t true. It still made me sick to my stomach to hear that crap, though. They assaulted him all over again inside the courtroom.
    Both defendants were convicted of First Degree Murder which, in Michigan, carries an automatic sentence of life without parole. So these two pieces of shit murdered my friend even more slowly, brutally, and cruelly than we had originally thought will now spend every day for the rest of their lives behind bars–all for Z’s car that they drove for 2 days and his ATM card–they never could access a penny–Z must have given them the wrong number. Good for you, Z. He was stabbed a couple dozen times with a steak knife then they dragged him down to his basement to die. Z wasn’t dead yet and began moaning for help. One of those pieces of shit went back downstairs armed with some sort of pole with a sharp tip and stabbed him again and again until he was dead. He had 30 stab wounds. The ME said the ones caused by the pole “were exceptionally wide.” It tortures me to think what he went through in those last terrifying, agonizing moments of his life. They’re lucky that MI abolished the death penalty because this certainly would have qualified.
    I guess I should be happy, but I’m just sort of numb and empty. I spoke to his sister last night and she feels the same only much more deeply, I’m sure. She did say that she hoped that now that we never have to think about these two creeps ever again, maybe we’ll think of Z with more smiles than tears.
    I guess that’s why I’m drawn to this trial and Travis’s family. I hope they get the same measure of justice that we were fortunate enough to receive. For those of you who stuck with me through this babble, thank you! To the rest, sorry, but I just had to unload.

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:08 pm

      Oh Cat, I’m so sorry to hear about your friend Z. What a wonderful person he was…! We need more “Z” type people in the world and less of the two that will be locked away for life.
      Thank you for sharing this experience with us.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:08 pm

      I’m so sorry that you lost your friend Z and that you were forced to have his reputation destroyed in court. I would imagine that since this is so new, you still haven’t fully absorbed the end result. I hope in time that you will think of Z with a smile on your face and will forget the trial entirely.

      I know that a life sentence doesn’t bring back your friend but it’s the only type of justice that currently exists. I hope in time you find peace and I send you {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}.

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:48 pm

      Oh my God! So sorry for the loss of your friend. He sounds like an amazing man. It’s grueling to be dragged through our justice system as a victim, or the family of a victim. But strength must be found from all around you so that justice can be obtained. I’m so happy the jury was wise to convict.

    • Wendy
      05/01/2013 at 5:58 pm

      So sorry for you and Z’s family.

    • C.I.
      05/01/2013 at 7:42 pm

      OMG cat I’m so sorry for your loss – sounds like your friend was a dear soul. I do see the similarities and like you I wish Travis and his family justice.

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 8:04 pm

      This is such a heartbreak! Thank goodness the Grand Rapids juries were solid citizens and came to a verdict that is just and fair. My heart breaks for you and Z’s family and friends. Think of the enormous loss that can not be replaced when you consider ALL the immense amount of good that his life works brought to the community and so many kids that he touched. Thanks for posting this and my deepest sympathy to you. (((((hugs)))))

  353. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:54 pm

    What was that??? Seriously, what was it? I missed the burp earlier.

  354. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 4:55 pm

    Dr Horn specifically said nails and arrows do NOT count!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 4:57 pm

      Exactly!!!

  355. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 4:55 pm

    OMG he is going to try and discredit the ME now. Wow!!!! ballsy and completely nuts, imho

    • C.I.
      05/01/2013 at 7:53 pm

      I can’t believe the judge allowed this- A PHD compared to an MD. The judge has gone to far, Dr. Horne must be furious – being criticized by your peers is one thing but by some one in a different field is beyond stupid.

  356. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 4:56 pm

    Why are they so determined to try to prove she shot him first?

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 4:58 pm

      self-defence

      • Marilyn N
        05/01/2013 at 5:02 pm

        And to go along with her fairytale of the event.

  357. 05/01/2013 at 4:56 pm

    lol omfg….. like lala and dodgy apparently he is an expert in gunshot wounds to the frontal lobe now apparently.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 5:01 pm

      I am unable to listen to him. I am relying on comments to get me through. I

  358. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:57 pm

    Guess JM will need to bring in another ME now…….

  359. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 4:58 pm

    Had Gidg worn an outfit more than once during this trial?

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:00 pm

      hmm don’t think so. and she has a whole lot of new ones lately not the one style and different colours she had before.

      • brightgirl58
        05/01/2013 at 5:11 pm

        Well given the fat paycheck from State of AZ, she can afford haute couture, although don’t see it.

  360. 05/01/2013 at 4:58 pm

    soooo lucky the defense has witnesses or are experts in so many things

  361. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 4:58 pm

    She is sooooo DUMB

  362. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 4:59 pm

    He is “testifying” about the frontal lobe of the brain, and the illustration they are using doesn’t include the frontal lobe!

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 5:00 pm

      EXACTLY Shaeffer!!!!!

  363. Wendy
    05/01/2013 at 4:59 pm

    Who is jodi staring at?

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 5:05 pm

      I think her “gaze” goes back and forth to Deanna and then to Juan.

  364. PK
    05/01/2013 at 4:59 pm

    Trace Adkins should be testifying about the left side and right side of the brain, not Dt=r. Grayaway.

  365. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 4:59 pm

    Someone pleeeeaaassssse tell Jenny to wipe that effing smile off her face!

  366. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:00 pm

    It’s now 2pm MST, how long is this going to go? So much of this drivel seems to be WELL BEYOND the scope!?! The “point” of this surrebuttal (I thought) was to rebut Dr. D’s diagnosis of BPD, and give the DT an opportunity to re-establish their DV / PTSD claims. ENOUGH!

  367. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:03 pm

    Now he’s a neuroscientist? Has more understanding than an ME that’s done OVER 6000 autopsies? This is a circus act!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:11 pm

      Just tune him out FOL – that’s all ya can do. He is a total disgrace!!! 😦

    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 5:12 pm

      but neuro guy has saw 2.

    • Kathy A.
      05/01/2013 at 5:13 pm

      I can’t believe he’s even being allowed to testify to this.

  368. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:03 pm

    membranes that are micro millimeters thick – I can’t believe that this idiot is doing this to himself for $$$$$

  369. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:04 pm

    Well I said they would search the country for an expert -anyone even a veterinarian – to dispute Dr. Horne. They could’t find anyone that stupid. Then they did.

  370. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 5:04 pm

    Maybe she plans to go thru every witness that doesn’t support their defense. Last chance.

  371. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:05 pm

    Any neuropsychologist that treats a patient with a GSW does not even evaluate the patient until they are out of the hospital and in rehabilitation. He knows about 2 patients????? What a JOKE! This is pathetic!

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:07 pm

      he did not point anywhere near where Dr Horn indicated the trajectory of the gunshot was.. nowhere close.. his was kind of up and down the front of the face.. Dr Horn indicated from the temple to the other cheek.. well that is how I saw it.

    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 5:07 pm

      exactly … this guy is really making my blood pressure shoot through the roof!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 5:07 pm

      Judge ought to be reminded how few cases are success at appeal. No one would hold it against her if she said you can’t question this founding distinguished professor of his own school about medical issues in a homicide. Period.

      • 05/01/2013 at 5:48 pm

        Yes,exactly!!!

  372. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 5:06 pm

    better be some good juror questions for this humdinger so we know they’re on track!!

  373. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 5:06 pm

    Anyone know how many courtroom cameras there are? I would think at least two b/c of split screen at times. Is it obvious to spectators, JA, etc. when camera is on them? Who is in charge of the filming, what company?

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:12 pm

      Turner Broadcasting

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 5:13 pm

        They are providing the live feed to everyone no matter where you watch it.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 5:12 pm

      I dont know the answer to that. But, I think the hurdle of getting cameras in all courtrooms throughoutthe country – as a right – is made higher when someone – anyone – tries “directing” the show. I think the camera should be in the place of one of the members of the courtroom. It would see the witness and Judge and lawyers when questioned. It would not zoom in or criss cross and show faces up close of either defendants or audience members.It should be the “eye” of the public. I dont think its “fair” to keep showing who is on trial. Why was Wm Kennedy Smith’s face all overtyhe screen and his accuser blacked out? He wasn’t convicted and yet the cameras made it seem as if he was. Whether or not, one agreed with that or not, the cameras played a role in the minds of people when it had no right to.

  374. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Jaysus!!!! He’s not even a psychiatrist! NO MEDICAL TRAINING!

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:16 pm

      I can’t believe he has the ego and audacity to sit there and try to pretend he knows more than an ME who has performed 6000 autopsies. That’s true arrogance.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 5:20 pm

        that he is allowed t,o is what stuns me (hope you saw clarification earlier)

      • 05/01/2013 at 5:23 pm

        robheerr I would ALWAYS give you the benefit of the doubt.. you should know that! 😀

  375. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:08 pm

    This man is lower than pond scum

  376. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:10 pm

    No ME would agree to decimate their career and testify for the Defense- so they get this moron to give medical testimony? What? This is CRAZY!!!!

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 5:15 pm

      Maybe LaLaT told him it was a good way to pad his retirement fund a bit.

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 5:21 pm

        Lol! Marilyn! Ack another one looking for a 401k padding!

  377. 05/01/2013 at 5:10 pm

    somebody give ME a frigging lethal injection

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:14 pm

      Hey bubble – ya just joining the fun????? 😉

  378. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 5:12 pm

    This is so f***ing maddening!

  379. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 5:13 pm

    I’m sorry – but they are not researching the thousands and thousands of people who have DIED from a SINGLE GSW!!!!

  380. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 5:14 pm

    This buy is making MY head explode.

    NOW he is a Gun and Bullet expert ????

    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 5:15 pm

      oops … “Guy”

      • 05/01/2013 at 5:24 pm

        nah, you got it right, Buy

  381. 05/01/2013 at 5:14 pm

    Morning all, I’ve got a suggestion. Perhaps we can have a demonstration to see how Dr G is after Jen shoots him through the brain with a .25. I think a demonstration will clear this up.

    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 5:16 pm

      I bet it would

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 5:18 pm

      needed that one!

  382. SCK
    05/01/2013 at 5:15 pm

    I AM READY TO EXPLODE!!!!!!!

  383. Karen C.
    05/01/2013 at 5:15 pm

    TY, Catbyte4. Like you, I’m with Shakespeare now “First, let’s kill the lawyers.”

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 5:30 pm

      Yikes- please don’t. That’s more than 2/3’s of my family. Wurmi and Perky are both disgraces! There are a lot of amazing, integrity filled attorneys in the world. Don’t let these scumbags make you group them all into the same steaming pile.

  384. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:16 pm

    it also stinks of very bad pool playing. The time was limited; that was a concept they accepted. It would be done today. That she stretched this to this extent is a horror and should be embarassing to the judge.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:18 pm

      It is an embarrassment to the judge since she’s responsible for running the show!!! Hopefully she will learn from this trial and improve with her next one.

      • NancyB
        05/01/2013 at 5:22 pm

        AMEN!

  385. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:16 pm

    I cannot imagine the jury (who have proven themselves to be astute) is buying ANY of this crapola! I wish the jury could ask Perky a Q- “Why did you not hire an ME to rebut Dr. Horn’s testimony”?

  386. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 5:16 pm

    Next they’ll discuss JA’s broken finger!

  387. Kathy A.
    05/01/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Good God, can’t the Judge tell her to wrap it up? If we’re this frustrated, imagine that poor jury.

    • SCK
      05/01/2013 at 5:20 pm

      I hope the jury is disgusted by Whiney and this “paid” mouth!!!

  388. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Oh, so now it was all based on what ifs?

  389. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 5:17 pm

    Oh than goodness .. looks like she’s wrapping up !!!!

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 5:19 pm

      It looked like it for a half a second!

      • truejustice
        05/01/2013 at 5:20 pm

        I’ll just shoooshh 🙂

  390. 05/01/2013 at 5:19 pm

    ahhh he just clarified what I was saying before… you cannot diagnose anyone in the way he did. so wtf was he doing there? ok I remember.. further obfuscation. OMG he was about to say Dr DeMarte was unqualified to render her diagnosis.. well saw that one coming a mile away.

  391. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:19 pm

    That jury must be totally bored beyond tears just like us.

  392. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:20 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Anyone think of Gomez Addams when they see Dr. G? Or is it just me?

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:21 pm

      hahahah do not insult Gomez!!! How could you! 😛

    • dpforjodi
      05/01/2013 at 5:26 pm

      Red Skeleton when he impersonated the seagull. I know way before your time

  393. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 5:20 pm

    I do not know if this has been posted yet or not

    Attention voters in AZ

    http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/JudicialBiographies/judicialList.asp

    “Superior Court judges in Maricopa County remain in office by the approval of voters in retention elections. There are no opponents in these elections. Voters cast a “yes” vote to retain a judge in office. A “no” vote would remove the judge from office. Every two years each judge undergoes a public review process, including a survey of the judges ability by lawyers, litigants, jurors and staff. Judges face a retention election every four years.”

    I am utterly sickened by this testimony. How and why this did not come in under the DT case in chief ….. I have REALLY tried to give this kangaroo court the benefit of the doubt but this judge needs to be put out to pasture! IMHO

  394. 05/01/2013 at 5:20 pm

    Yeah, hey gang. @MMD, yeah, I started watching then figured I’d go out and run some errands for my move down to the keys. I know I missed a bunch, but figured I could sum it up in one word: blablablablablablablablabla

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:22 pm

      hello bubble 😀

      • 05/01/2013 at 5:25 pm

        Hey, Syn

      • 05/01/2013 at 5:28 pm

        you know I’ve still got the image of gus and you know who having anal in my head!!! mwmwmwhahahah!!! still think it’s possible knowing her and she did spend the night in that trailer with him!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:25 pm

      You summed it up perfectly! 😆

  395. PK
    05/01/2013 at 5:21 pm

    A psychologist permitted to testify in an Arizona court a law as to how a gunshot wound to the head would affect the life vitals of the victim makes me glad I never had to even litigate a patent case there. Who needs a medical examiner? Arizona apparently dosn’t.

  396. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:22 pm

    a sidebar; never thought I’d think of one as relief.

  397. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 5:22 pm

    whinesalot only has a few more?s she is trying to finish “with a bang” …

    also… the ho amidextrious my ass! she soooo totally has to focus using her right hand. it does not come easy for her. she can’t even pretend to make it look natural

  398. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 5:23 pm

    Wouldn’t it be great if Juan’s cross:

    No further questions : Your honor I would like to call our next witness please.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 5:27 pm

      HOURS ago I was suggesting this.Everyone wanted to see Juan rip him another.

  399. 05/01/2013 at 5:24 pm

    she did explain it.. she explained ALL of it!!! you moron! it’s YOU that’s not explaining Jodisteins lies!!!

  400. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:25 pm

    I hope Juan asks him if someone wearing a toupee is being deceptive.

  401. truejustice
    05/01/2013 at 5:25 pm

    MUTE MUTE MUTE …..

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:28 pm

      Even with mute on this guy is still boring!

  402. 05/01/2013 at 5:26 pm

    He needs to go to Dr Demartes school.. she is WAY better than he is.. he’s an idjit!!

  403. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:26 pm

    She did NOT use the TSI to Dx Borderline – she used the MMPI-2 for that. She used the TSI to see if the trauma inventory that Dr Karp did was still valid.

  404. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 5:27 pm

    Can Dr. DeMarte sue this idiot for slander? This is absolutely unbelievable!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

      Imagine Willnot asking relevance!!!!!!! The nerve.

  405. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 5:28 pm

    “Unfortunately, people can say anything!” That is the fucking truth as you have just so brilliantly illustrated.

  406. 05/01/2013 at 5:28 pm

    This is absolutely ludicrous!

  407. 05/01/2013 at 5:28 pm

    I’m no circuit head, but I really wish there was a way we could all video conference when the verdict is read; to share the great psychic orgasm the verdict will no doubt be. I know I thought the same for CA, but here, there is NO doubt. What the hell are we gonna do when this over?

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:30 pm

      Oh bubble.. I soo hope you are right…. I so hope you are!!! I dread the verdict.. it scares the heck out of me!

    • C.I.
      05/01/2013 at 8:29 pm

      We could bb if we all had skype

      • C.I.
        05/01/2013 at 8:32 pm

        And I am Circuit head” well systems analyst/programmer – but I love circuit head – its a catchy phrase. No sarcasm intended I love it.

  408. 05/01/2013 at 5:29 pm

    Does anyone know if one of the 1001 places to visit before your ex gf visciously murders you is in the Keys?

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:32 pm

      LMAO!!! love the amended title!! NOt funny really but ya gotta laugh don’t ya!

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:26 pm

      Bubble…..I lived in Key West quite a few years back when it was still a rather quiet little Conch Republic. Then one of the biggest tourist spots was the Southern Most Point (of the US. Ad 90 miles from Cuba.
      But I would think the 7 Mile Bridge should be on the list. It connects Knights Key ( lower part of Marathon) in the MIddle Keys to Little Duck Key which s the start of

  409. 05/01/2013 at 5:31 pm

    Screw this, I’m going for beer. Anyone need anything while I’m out?

    • truejustice
      05/01/2013 at 5:38 pm

      The last 5 hours of my life back …lol

      • NapaNonnie
        05/01/2013 at 8:30 pm

        LOLz

  410. 05/01/2013 at 5:32 pm

    woohoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  411. 05/01/2013 at 5:33 pm

    Juans up!!! yayaya!!!!

  412. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 5:33 pm

    Come BACK!!! It is Juan time!!!!

  413. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 5:33 pm

    Per the norm… Juanderful is up and I’m bouncing in my seat with excited!!

  414. 05/01/2013 at 5:33 pm

    go JUAN!!!!!

  415. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 5:33 pm

    ahhhhhhhhhhh music to my ears!!! i love you Juan!!!!!

  416. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

    Juan needs Dr Horn back on the stand to explain what he MEANS when he states that the Dura Mater is intact. I know what he means, I think, but a lay person will NOT.

  417. 05/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

    impeached on the second question!!! GONE

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 5:35 pm

      I’m BREATHING!!!!

  418. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

    I LOVE JUAN!!!! (Sorry MMD)

  419. 05/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

    Here it comes buddy, the prickly side of your testimony 😱

  420. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

    Thank GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  421. 05/01/2013 at 5:34 pm

    *happy dance* *happy dance*

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:37 pm

      dancing with ya darlin’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀

  422. Schaeffer
    05/01/2013 at 5:35 pm

    If the defense is so willing to hang their hat on the testimony of someone who has not interviewed, tested, or even met with the WOBO, why in the hell did we have to suffer through the testimony of the WOBO, ALV and Samuels? Why didn’t they just put this idiot on the stand and have him spout off about highly technical subjects of which he has absolutely NO understanding and leave it at that?

  423. 05/01/2013 at 5:35 pm

    I don’t know that much but I do know if I were a juror and sat there all day listening to this carp to find out that this guy is not qualified…..man would I be pissed.

  424. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:35 pm

    O’Rourke is the case that his testimony was thrown OUT

  425. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:35 pm

    Here’s goes my Juan – he’s gonna bring up his past history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  426. 05/01/2013 at 5:36 pm

    lalalallallalalllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa there are good psychologists.. and there are hacks.. and if ya can’t tell the difference don’t comment on the profession!!!! ooops soz Im gonna be sent to the naughty corner.. sorry Donchais. I’ll get back in my box I promise!

  427. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:36 pm

    he didnt say “completely” without merit! hahahahaha

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:41 pm

      and he has the audacity to say Dr DeMarte has no right to make a BPD diagnosis.. without knowing any of her explanations…. Juan.. you are truly my hero.. you are wasted on .. you know who.. come here baby and I’ll whisper sweet somethings in your ear!!

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 6:00 pm

        Oh no….I predict a cat fight…

  428. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 5:37 pm

    Wonder if he will stop at “Your testimony was rendered completely invalid. That you never talked to the mother in that case. You’re a HIRED GUN!” … No further questions 🙂

  429. 05/01/2013 at 5:38 pm

    ruv ruv ruv Juan!!!! he is so mad at what this idjit did to his witness!!!! wow I would be Juan’s expert any day he really has their butts covered!

  430. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:38 pm

    OMG! This guy is going to parse his responses with the Juanster?

  431. 05/01/2013 at 5:38 pm

    Gracerv7 :
    Just read on My Crime Time that Dr. Hayes will be testifying for the state. Think they’ll squeeze that in today or push back closing arguments. My apologies if the has been covered and I missed it!

    Thank you for posting this Gracerv! I couldn’t find ant info on whether the judge approved and that she would be testifying. This is great news!

  432. 05/01/2013 at 5:39 pm

    Love him!

  433. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:40 pm

    Sitting there for 5.5 hours listening to this clown. The Juanster is on fire.

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:42 pm

      he’s been boiling the HEAT is Juan!!!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 6:09 pm

        LOL! I knew something was off today! I didn’t listen to “our” song!

  434. Anniefreeze
    05/01/2013 at 5:40 pm

    Hi everyone,
    Home from work. Can’t wait to watch croakers videos when I’m settling in. I have the jitters…..must do dinner and clean up now. Chow Bella’s.
    ps.MMD the migraine stuff was a late night joke. 😄 My bucket list: drink green stuff, no joke, I’m warry squared. 😟😟😟

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:42 pm

      don’t bother to watch anything – this is all that counts Annie!!!!!!

  435. ringadingding
    05/01/2013 at 5:40 pm

    Heh heh. That was fast work. You go, JM!

  436. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:41 pm

    He’s dodgy’s twin – he did the same thing in child custody case! Made a decision about child custody without interviewing BOTH parents!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 6:10 pm

      I thought it was deja vu. A custoday case, only for one side, some dental work….

  437. 05/01/2013 at 5:41 pm

    Oh wow! The ‘I Don’t Remember’ response! That’s new! NOT!!!!!!!!!!

  438. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:41 pm

    Love it, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it – ya get the picture folks 😀 😆

  439. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 5:41 pm

    I am hearing the song “another one bites the dust”!!!!!!!

  440. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:42 pm

    “evidently” hahaha and HE’s ripping Dr J? This guy without credibility say another Judge! Big shot founder distinguished professor of his own college is a joke that other courts have dismissed!

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:45 pm

      oooh he is so arrogant.. as I said earlier… soo arrogant.. smirky

  441. Anniefreeze
    05/01/2013 at 5:43 pm

    I just saw exclamation point and I’m nervous… Must get to work so I can come back….sooner.

  442. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:43 pm

    Juan has the backs of Travis, his family AND Dr. D!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 6:15 pm

      Freakin Juan! You said it. SupermanJuan. Capes flying. You question MY medical gal?You? A crook and loser?

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 6:17 pm

        YOU think all guys deserve THAT? Did you cry when you were cutting his throat?

  443. 05/01/2013 at 5:43 pm

    guess i got back in time.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 5:46 pm

      yep, you got back just in time 😀

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:46 pm

      share bubble!!! what you get me?

  444. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:45 pm

    He’s laughing. He is getting paid! His freakin job is to testify and plug his programs

  445. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:45 pm

    I loved this “regaled us with” 😀

  446. 05/01/2013 at 5:46 pm

    Somebody must have said, “Jodi, this is it. You must act like you’re interested. Draw Juan and Florez, it almost looks like you’re looking at the jury…

  447. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:46 pm

    scratch a hack, you get a Searcy

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:48 pm

      hahhahaha and the rest 😀 lotsa hack scratchingn on the DT side 😀 Juan is light years away from those two monkeys at the DT table!

  448. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:47 pm

    Why in the hell is he smiling from ear to ear!

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 5:49 pm

      I know he’s an oaf!!!

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:49 pm

      cos he is nervous and he is trying to hide it by pretending he’s calm cool and collected

      • Marilyn N
        05/01/2013 at 5:51 pm

        Well he SHOULD be nervous now!!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 6:18 pm

        beautiful. what a good psychologist will always see – what is ‘really’ going on

  449. ringadingding
    05/01/2013 at 5:47 pm

    Nurmi should just bring in an armchair and beer hat and be done with it.

  450. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:48 pm

    Gidget’s getting her undies in a twist in a major way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😆

    • C.I.
      05/01/2013 at 8:57 pm

      No MMD they didn’t have spanx in her isize.and she is irritated.

  451. 05/01/2013 at 5:49 pm

    hahahahah Juan asks questions fast.. and Perky takes an hour to ask one.. so she objects.. go JUAN!!!

  452. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 5:49 pm

    I think I see a little craft project going over there, WOBO’s way.

  453. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 5:49 pm

    Why is MS smiling? What happened to courtroom decorum? Also JM has so much pent up energy, he’s been let out of the chute.

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 5:51 pm

      I dont know how he could sit there and not explode. God bless him.

  454. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:50 pm

    The nerve of Willnot The nerve..

  455. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:50 pm

    JA is practicing her letters with her right hand. Must want to prove she’s ambidextrous at some point.

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 5:52 pm

      Makes it easier to play hangman with Wilnot

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 5:54 pm

        LOL

      • C.I.
        05/01/2013 at 8:58 pm

        lol

  456. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:51 pm

    “Thought bubble” over Wurmi’s head: “Damn, I knew this surrebuttal was a mistake, anybody got a cold one for me?”

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:53 pm

      I have feijoa martini’s you can have some.. I got a jug made up! 😀

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 5:54 pm

        Happily, I accept!

      • 05/01/2013 at 5:56 pm

        goodie.. cos they are yum!!

  457. 05/01/2013 at 5:52 pm

    oh I love Juan’s passion… I LOVE it!!!

  458. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:52 pm

    Thank God for JUAN!!!!!!!

  459. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:52 pm

    This ahole smiles with his rotty teeth like LaLaT did when he’s backed up by Juan.

  460. ringadingding
    05/01/2013 at 5:53 pm

    Puffy shirt in blooming blood red is not a good look for a member of the DT.

  461. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 5:53 pm

    Oh gawd!! I just had an awful thought. We’ll have to go thru Willie’s redirect !

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:55 pm

      noooo it will be her direct all over again.. you know what she’s like!!

  462. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 5:53 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    People snicker as Juan says “Thank you” and cuts off Dr. G when he was attempting to have a lengthy answer

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 5:57 pm

      Love it!

  463. 05/01/2013 at 5:54 pm

    Seriously.. could Travis have got a better spokesperson to represent him?

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 6:01 pm

      nope!

      • C.I.
        05/01/2013 at 9:03 pm

        MMD give Juan lots of tlc from all of us tonite.

    • Gwen
      05/01/2013 at 8:50 pm

      Absolutely the BEST!!!!!! Love, love, love JUAN. 🙂 gives you faith there are still good people in this world. Travis’ family have to know how hard he has worked for them and Travis. I really admire him!!!! God Bless you Juan Martinez!!!!!!!!!!

  464. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:55 pm

    I,mean you’d think if TWO courts had written that the guy was for sale and a hack, he’d be through as a witness. Nope.

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:57 pm

      nope.. not for this DT.. they don’t care who they get as long as its’ someone!!

    • Moon
      05/01/2013 at 6:14 pm

      oooohhh HELL no!! This one is on the house, for his bestie

  465. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:55 pm

    Perky… SIT DOWN!!! Shut up, watch and learn.

  466. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 5:55 pm

    We had to listen to all your nonsense, now it’s Juan’s turn!!

  467. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 5:56 pm

    the HO is writing 100x “i am not borderline, i am not borderline……”

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:57 pm

      which actually just makes her more borderline mmwhahahahaha

  468. LindaLou
    05/01/2013 at 5:56 pm

    Darn it. I have to leave. Date with some of my old co-workers. Catch ya all later. Take care and JM, keep kicking butt!

  469. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:57 pm

    not familar with it? Lets take a look at it! says Juanster to the Doc.

  470. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 5:57 pm

    I can’t stand this judge.

    • 05/01/2013 at 5:58 pm

      I try to like her! but I find it very difficult

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 6:01 pm

      Doubly quoted because I DOUBLY think this judge is a disgrace!

      • Marilyn N
        05/01/2013 at 6:02 pm

        She has never once said “no” to an approach!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 6:05 pm

        so true. NOT ONCE. A real leader heh? I mean a few “nos” would have gone a long way

      • ringadingding
        05/01/2013 at 6:06 pm

        Yes, or a well placed STFU and sit down would be nice at least now and then.

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 6:20 pm

        Finally figured out stfu…too funny

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 6:31 pm

        as I said, welcome to the dark side 😉

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 6:45 pm

        Haha..you r right. I made it to the dark side.and, I feel like there’s no turning back.

        Hubby having some routine surgery tomorrow morning. he cant drive home, of course.
        my “dark side” mind is contemplating sending him there in a taxi, and then, sending a taxi to pick him up, or waiting til the court lunch break to pick him up. Someone help me!
        Then, I’ll have to drug him up with pain meds when he gets home, to stop Him from bugging me about being glued to the trial all day. I should b the good wife and b ready to nurture and pamper him when he gets home. But, all I’m thinking about is getting him in the threshold of the front door, and then, running to turn on the trial on my iPad !

      • HJ Madison
        05/01/2013 at 6:49 pm

        Let us know if you need the Dual Browser info …. so you can split screen the ipad with trial and here

      • HJ Madison
        05/01/2013 at 6:55 pm

        That was meant for Jill.

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 6:57 pm

        Ty HJ, I would love the dual browser, but when I tried to download it a few days ago, a warning came on that said something about sexually explicit material, so it scared me. Is it safe?

      • 05/01/2013 at 6:59 pm

        Is it just me, or are comments going the wrong way?

      • NapaNonnie
        05/01/2013 at 7:00 pm

        My comments are replacing my previous comment.

      • 05/01/2013 at 7:02 pm

        How bout now?

      • HJ Madison
        05/01/2013 at 7:14 pm

        It did???? When we get a new sandbox I will send you the link to be sure it is the one I have used.

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 6:52 pm

        Jill I feel your pain I feel your pain

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 6:55 pm

        Ty, Robert! Glad I have someone to empathize with me!

      • 05/01/2013 at 6:56 pm

        Hey RnR, you going backwards?

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 6:59 pm

        ROFL :LOL You have DEFINITELY become exactly like the rest of us 😆

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 7:04 pm

        Yay! Glad, cuz u guys r my role models.

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 7:05 pm

        Mmd, 7:04 was meant for u!

      • 05/01/2013 at 7:15 pm

        Jill, you there?

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 7:28 pm

        Yes, hi

      • MMD
        05/01/2013 at 7:01 pm

        damn see my reply at 6:59

      • 05/01/2013 at 6:49 pm

        What is going on?

    • Kathy A.
      05/01/2013 at 6:04 pm

      I know – what would be so wrong in saying to JW “No, you can’t approach” and just overruling or sustaining the objection and moving on?

  471. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 5:58 pm

    Jodi is setting Willnot straight on the facts in their little huddle.

  472. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 5:58 pm

    The besties are passing notes in class again! Acckkkk!

  473. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 5:59 pm

    juan is showing Gidget that to be effective you ought to know a few things about what you are questiioning.

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:02 pm

      YES YES zegactly!!!!!

  474. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 6:00 pm

    JA drawing? Any decent judge would tell her that she can’t do crafting during court hours!!!

  475. 05/01/2013 at 6:01 pm

    oh demarte isnt allowed to refer to her notes.. but apparently their witness is AGAIN

    • NancyB
      05/01/2013 at 6:19 pm

      Yes – u notice that too?

  476. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 6:02 pm

    I think her mangy fingers must be 14 inches long!!

  477. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 6:02 pm

    Syn- what do you think is going on in JA’s head right now?

  478. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 6:02 pm

    How old is this joker supposed to be???????????? anybody know?????????????

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 6:04 pm

      He is 67.

      • Marilyn N
        05/01/2013 at 6:04 pm

        And he can’t bare to be gray headed!

  479. Nienna
    05/01/2013 at 6:02 pm

    Defense’s Hired Gun…. I’d like you to meet our Smoking Gun! His name is Juan Martinez and he is not playing around here, he’s seeking Justice For Travis!!!

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 6:04 pm

      You got it darlin’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  480. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 6:03 pm

    So he did it without being paid as a gift to his buddy LaLa – to bolster her testimony and to help JA

    • Marilyn N
      05/01/2013 at 6:07 pm

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

  481. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 6:03 pm

    Like LaLa telling everyone the regular court way is not really comfortable for them

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 6:08 pm

      Very “down home folk”! (Hi Robert)

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/01/2013 at 6:21 pm

        a ‘wave” as I scroll….

  482. Moon
    05/01/2013 at 6:04 pm

    I sure hope some computer whiz can count the number of times that whiny bitch has asked to approach… errrr tattle!!!

  483. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 6:04 pm

    Juan NEVER asks a Q he doesn’t already know the answer to- contrary to Perky who throws darts!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 6:22 pm

      so true so true

  484. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 6:05 pm

    Jenny wants to approach – stop rhythm and prevent her witness from AGAIN being humiliated cuz he did not remember that PD means psychopathic deviance – the scale that she scored highest on — over 100

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 6:07 pm

      No, no…. I think Juan asked for this. He must have some big load he wants to drop on the good DR. Of course, I am always overly optimistic.

  485. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 6:05 pm

    They are synchronizing watches now? Who is she trying to fool?

  486. 05/01/2013 at 6:05 pm

    no its not schizophrenia you idiot.. its schizoid.. that is completely different mmwhahahahahahaha

  487. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 6:05 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan and Dr. G get into some serous snippiness and Willmott Whack-a-moles herself into a mweeproach. Sizzlebar is on.

  488. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 6:05 pm

    She better lay down for a minute. Looks to be getting weak!

  489. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 6:06 pm

    That’s our JM – always 3 steps ahead of everyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  490. 05/01/2013 at 6:06 pm

    Is it just me or did Jodi become right-handed today?

  491. 05/01/2013 at 6:07 pm

    NancyB :
    I can’t stand this judge.

    She’s not even a judge……she’s a questionnaire surveyer….the only the she is good at is asking juror questions in her best Shakespearean voice!!!!!

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 6:24 pm

      LOL!!!

  492. 05/01/2013 at 6:08 pm

    Schizoid Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of detachment from social relationships. A person with schizoid personality disorder often has difficulty expression emotions and does so typically in very restricted range, especially when communicating with others.

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:10 pm

      Schizophrenia

      A person with schizophrenia typically experiences changes in behaviour and perception, and disordered thinking that can distort their sense of reality. This is referred to as psychosis.

      • 05/01/2013 at 6:11 pm

        He muddled these two up.. they are COMPLETELY different!!!!

  493. Jill
    05/01/2013 at 6:08 pm

    My poor daughter…home from school…asking for a snack…mom saying not yet to her…waiting for a long sidebar to go get it for her…but they seem to b fast sidebars today…definitely neglecting my little girl, but I can’t stop watching….what’s happening to me? Help!

    • Wendy
      05/01/2013 at 6:19 pm

      Hi Jill you have become one of us. The obsessed and addicted. My family will be so glad when this is over.

      • Jill
        05/01/2013 at 6:28 pm

        Hi wendy, I’ve been this way for awhile now. Unfortunately, I’m watching the trail live now. I used to save it for night time when my daughter went to bed and then I would watch it on you tube…now, I NEED it live! And I was actually considering driving down to Mesa, but I heard its difficult to get a seat. That’s good because I have no idea on earth how I would have told my hubby that I’m going to Mesa. He already thinks I’m nuts cuz of my addiction to this.

    • MMD
      05/01/2013 at 6:23 pm

      welcome to the dark side Jill 🙂

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      05/01/2013 at 6:25 pm

      LOL!!!

    • C.I.
      05/01/2013 at 9:24 pm

      Ok Jill I have your time problems figured out – Later tonight prepare your daughters snack and put in the fridge. Have hubby sleep in clothes run him to hospital – as soon as he wakes up drag him to bathroom and make him down his water or juice. run him home – put him to bed – he should sleep for 2-4 hours. then give him water and pain pill out for 2 more hours. Dont know how old your daughter is but give her your Ipod and put some funky music on for her and some drawing materials.

  494. 05/01/2013 at 6:09 pm

    Ok missed what Juan said just before the break, couldn’t hear over coffee machine, did he ask for the break?

    • HJ Madison
      05/01/2013 at 6:12 pm

      I thought so….. followed by a sidebar

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:14 pm

      yes I believe he did

  495. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 6:14 pm

    I am beginning to think this judge went to the Lance Ito school of judges….. gees it feels more and more like OJ.

  496. NapaNonnie
    05/01/2013 at 6:15 pm

    Had to stop watching at their too long “shorter” lunch break. Just catching up on posts and trial. Juanderful is getting the job done. Dr graybegone’s a** is grass and Juan the magnificent is the lawn mower.

  497. brightgirl58
    05/01/2013 at 6:15 pm

    there goes Wilnot coaching again

  498. HJ Madison
    05/01/2013 at 6:16 pm

    WOBO is happy about something!

  499. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 6:16 pm

    Mike B is back- and ewwwww shook Schlock Doc’s hand!

  500. 05/01/2013 at 6:17 pm

    I wanna see what she handed Nurmi.. she was pretty pleased with it whatever it was

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 6:18 pm

      Who? JA?

      • 05/01/2013 at 6:20 pm

        ya whatever she has been working on she had a smile about it then presented it to Nurmi

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 6:22 pm

        Ewwwwwww! So she STILL thinks she winning? I can’t stand it!

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 6:18 pm

      What do u mean?

  501. NapaNonnie
    05/01/2013 at 6:17 pm

    Oh great, another “Juan is talking too fast, Judge. Can you please tell him to dumb it down for our expert?”

  502. 05/01/2013 at 6:19 pm

    hahahahahahahahahhahahha he is gonna pull out another scale where someone has been diagnosed BPD gooooooo JUan!!!!!

  503. Family of Law
    05/01/2013 at 6:21 pm

    What was JA mumbling to herself when Atts were at their sidebar?

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:23 pm

      probably talking to Travis

    • Family of Law
      05/01/2013 at 6:26 pm

      Omg! That really freaks me out- so disturbing.

    • SeniorMoments
      05/01/2013 at 7:12 pm

      “You should have put on your make-up, Jodi! Geez!!”

      • Family of Law
        05/01/2013 at 11:46 pm

        Lol! Just saw this! Very funny!

  504. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 6:21 pm

    must not be in Jen’s script so she must approach

  505. 05/01/2013 at 6:22 pm

    omg have they warn a track to that bench yet?

  506. 05/01/2013 at 6:25 pm

    Can you believe this crap? Jodi is going to totally take the rap for those two ninjas. She’s still protecting her family…

    • dpforjodi
      05/01/2013 at 6:59 pm

      lol

  507. 05/01/2013 at 6:27 pm

    yay Juan! DeMarte will be soo proud!

  508. NancyB
    05/01/2013 at 6:28 pm

    Dr. Geffner has a book on Amazon…good luck with that!

    What follows are five reviews I am reposting (thanks, Amazon) one which has some new, disturbing info about the Dr.

    This review is from: Identifying and Treating Sex Offenders: Current Approaches, Research, and Techniques (Journal of Child Sexual Abuse Monographic “Separates”) (Paperback)

    How sad that you are willing to ruin your career just to lie for a murderer, same as your friend Laviolette. So sad for true victims of DV.

    Please look very, very closely at Robert Geffner, April 23, 2013

    By

    Bradley Hall (London United Kingdom) – See all my reviews

    This review is from: Identifying and Treating Sex Offenders: Current Approaches, Research, and Techniques (Journal of Child Sexual Abuse Monographic “Separates”) (Paperback)

    I believe everyone should read this book, and every book by Geffner, and closely examine the entire body of work and entire career of Geffner and of all of his close collaborators. I believe that what we will find will open our eyes.

    In the footnotes on Page 13 of the Summary Judgment in favor of plaintiffs in Morris vs. Dearborne:

    “17. The child was made to play a game where she was given points for circling the words “f* *k” and “p*n*s;” however, she was never able to do so without prompting. Additionally, Goforth asked the child to draw “lick p*n*s” and “f* *k” and even asked the child to “show [her] how to f* *k.” These counseling sessions took place under the supervision of GEFFNER, through CTPS.

    Trina – See all my reviews

    This review is from: Identifying and Treating Sex Offenders: Current Approaches, Research, and Techniques (Journal of Child Sexual Abuse Monographic “Separates”) (Paperback)

    You sir,and I use that term loosely, are nothing more than a PROVEN hired gun. Your co-hort Alyce, clearly failed at her attempt to convince anyone, much less a jury, that the defendant has been a victim of domestic violence and is really nothing more than a cold blooded murdered, so now you’re going to throw your hat in the ring, try to cash in on some of the money the tax payers of Arizona are dishing out, and it’s just plain disgusting. You are a hypocrite, willing to put your name on something you know nothing about. How many hours did YOU spend with the killer? 60, 80? More? How did your testimony work for Mrs. O’Rourke? Oh, that’s right, you never even interviewed the ex-husband. You took what was obviously, a very sick woman’s word for what she said happened and you were called out by every judge and every courtroom you entered because you are in fact, a hired gun. You’ll say whatever the highest bidder asks you to say and you’ve been found out. Good luck. You’re going to need it. Perhaps your time would be better spent buying Jodi some self-help books, or magazines that she can try to sneak out of prison with her sick notes written in them. You are GROSS!

    1.0 out of 5 stars HOW COULD ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND EVEN CONSIDER READING THIS BOOK?, April 26, 2013

    By

    Lori D. Raia – See all my reviews

    This review is from: Identifying and Treating Sex Offenders: Current Approaches, Research, and Techniques (Journal of Child Sexual Abuse Monographic “Separates”) (Paperback)

    I have not read this book, nor would I ever even consider doing so. Any “Dr.” in their right mind who would aid in a Death Penalty Murder Trial such as the one Dr. Geffner is about to lend himself to, has no merit or intelligence in my opinion. Jodi Arias is a pathological liar and cold-blooded murderer, and how you could think otherwise is beyond me. I guess people would do almost anything for the almighty buck. So sad.

    1.0 out of 5 stars LaViolette’s Cohort Conveniently Republishes & Testifies April 22, 2013

    By susan ann westphal

    Format:Kindle Edition

    What is with these greedy authors republishing their overpriced, outdated books to coincide with their biased testimony in high profile trials? If they were testifying to help CONVICT Domestic Violence perpetrators instead of helping them towards acquittal, they’d be more credible, reputable & revered. If Geffner & LaViolette are so hungry for DV perpetrators to study & counsel, they should contribute to their incarcerations and then go visit them in prison. Or, maybe they WANT more victims just to validate their own existence and ensure job security for themselves?? Pathetic!

    http://mixedbagblog.com/2013/05/01/dr-geffner-has-a-book-on-amazon-good-luck-with-that/

  509. Marilyn N
    05/01/2013 at 6:28 pm

    The He/She Donoperson always has her/his finger’s in her/his mouth!

  510. MMD
    05/01/2013 at 6:29 pm

    Gidget just never learns with JM does she…………. pathetic really 😉

  511. Jill
    05/01/2013 at 6:30 pm

    Does anyone see jodi mumbling to herself? Wonder what she’s saying

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 6:34 pm

      Oops, just saw above post regarding this. Sorry, I’m a little behind, cuz I paused the live for a few minutes.

  512. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/01/2013 at 6:31 pm

    the “we” is the “staff” and all the foreign students working on the real work.

    • Jill
      05/01/2013 at 6:35 pm

      Haha!

  513. 05/01/2013 at 6:31 pm

    any questions going in the box from the jurors??? anyone have any reports on this?

    • 05/01/2013 at 6:34 pm

      I read on twitter that a question had been submitted earlier today

      • 05/01/2013 at 6:35 pm

        k thankyou

  514. 05/01/2013 at 6:32 pm

    Hey all, A few months back, the nightmare I was dating hacked my Facebook and deleted some pretty special pictures, basically part of a concentrated effort to erase me or any sense of pride I had, and bla bla. But I happened to recently find the one I wanted to make as my avatar here, if I could. Don’t think I can, but it is the original Bubblebutts. If anyone’s interested, next side bar you can look me up at john damian butts on Facebook.

  515. 05/01/2013 at 6:32 pm

    Thur and Fri schedule-CNN
    Jury instructions @ noon ET
    Pros gives closing arguments
    Defense gives closing arguments
    Pros gives rebuttal closing
    3 alternate jurors selected