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Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Penalty Phase, That Did Not Happen, Continues 3


Jodi Arias discussion continues here.



  1. MMD
    05/13/2013 at 6:36 pm

    Ritanita love this headline on CNN – Puffy, pudgy O.J. returns to court (it’s for a video) 😀

  2. MMD
    05/13/2013 at 6:38 pm

    OT – this makes me sad – always liked her.

    Psychologist Joyce Brothers, a popular TV personality and advice columnist, has died, her daughter says.

    • janeto
      05/13/2013 at 6:44 pm

      I just heard that too. 😦 hi MMD! just been lurking & laughing at all the posts. You guys are too much!

    • HJ Madison
      05/13/2013 at 6:46 pm

      Me too! 😒 She was always good!

  3. janeto
    05/13/2013 at 6:47 pm

    FOL, you had me rolling about ur “not really” friend at dinner. Wish I was a fly on the wall to see you throw Syn’s words at her!! Give her Hell for all of us! 🙂

    • Family of Law
      05/13/2013 at 8:05 pm

      Lol! Janeto! I did my best to channel Syn’s wisdom!

  4. CC ...
    05/13/2013 at 6:49 pm

    O/T alert.

    I hope everyone had a lovely weekend! I am beyond proud of my 19 year old niece. She is currently on a plane to London, then to Nairobi and then to a village about 1.5 hours from there to volunteer at an orphanage/school for 4 weeks. She is going by herself, not part of a group (school or otherwise). She will be meeting a few volunteers from different parts of the world hoping to make a small difference in children’s lives who are less fortunate than she is. She had been reaearching this for over a year. She’s paying her own way but is staying with a local family. This experience will be forever etched in her memory. She is super excited and I am so proud of her. So refreshing to see our youth doing something good on the world stage, no?

    Ok, back to the evil-wandering-one-eyed-succubus. 😉

    • janeto
      05/13/2013 at 6:55 pm

      Congrats CC!! Not enough young ones doing good deeds in today’s world! Hope she is very careful, & has a blast!

      • CC ...
        05/13/2013 at 7:05 pm

        It is nice to see young ones giving back for all their blessings. Thank you!

    • donchais
      05/13/2013 at 6:58 pm

      How wonderful and generous of your niece!

      • CC ...
        05/13/2013 at 7:06 pm

        Thank you, Donchais, I am quite sure this will be a blessing in her life, too!

    • TexiBelle
      05/13/2013 at 7:18 pm

      That is wonderful. I will be in Nairobi for a few days in August. Once your niece gets back (or, even better, if you talk to her while she’s there and she can give the school a heads up ahead of time), ask her if I can bring any supplies or medicine to the school. I will have some free time and would be happy to get a driver and make the short trip out there. You can email me at misslaurenr [at] yahoo [dot] com

      I have traveled extensively in Africa and frequently after coming back thought, “if I had only known their needs, I would have filled my suitcase with _________” So it would be great to be prepared ahead of time for once!

      • CC ...
        05/13/2013 at 7:54 pm

        Thank you so much, TexiBelle…I will definitely contact you as soon as I hear from her. She doesn’t get in until Wednesday afternoon sometime. Thanks again…so many lovely people in the world. We all need to concentrate on that when we get frustrated with the demons and monster surrounding us.

      • Family of Law
        05/13/2013 at 8:02 pm

        That is so nice!!!! What a wonderful offer! I’m so jealous, I’ve always wanted to go to Africa- everyone I know that’s gone, has said the experience can’t be put to words. Bless your heart for helping!

    • Family of Law
      05/13/2013 at 7:57 pm

      CC, that is a great OT!!!! I needed some happy news!!! Thank you for sharing this!!! What a wonderful girl she must be! This experience will change, and enrich her beyond words! I’m sharing a link with you to a friend of ours (my husband worked with her husband for years, sadly he passed away some years ago, and Ann was healed from her grief by doing selfless deeds, she’s amazing!) Congratulations and safe journey to your niece!!! Brava!!!

      • CC ...
        05/13/2013 at 8:23 pm

        I will definitely check out your link. Thank you so much, FOL, for your well-wishes. 🙂

      • nyccowgirl
        05/13/2013 at 11:43 pm

        one of our staff is quitting to go to india to do something similar. in the business world, many don’t quite understand this need other than just something to put on the resume but i reached out to him to tell him i was very proud of him as his personality was always geared towards doing something like this and i’m so glad he’s finally doing something he’s passionate about.

        btw, what does OT stand for?

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 8:17 am

        OT= off topic

    • 05/13/2013 at 10:14 pm

      CC. Props to you your niece and the rest of your family for raising and supporting such a wonderful young woman. It takes chutzpah to research and develop a program like that for.yourself and follow through. All alone. Brave girl.
      I did somethin similar after my first year of college at 18, I went to Israel for a year in 1970 but the program was laid out for me. I was still insecure. I lasted the year working hard on kibbutzim. The labor was intense, and we were on a border that had a latendency to get bazookad intermittently. The last 6 months you could say I reinvented both the program and myself. But of course ” li had a little help from my friends” But living in the desert, keeping company with Bedouins and their wonderful horses we were allowed to ride along the Red..Sea was not to be denied to me or others in my party of young European, Canadian ; American volunteers. We learned so much off the beaten track..
      CC…. Sorry for goin off on that taangent but i get excited when young people take control and do something / umexpected. i always worry about my daughters when they take leave and do something unexpected. I’m sure you’ve done it already, but be sure to tell her to always remain safe,cautious and alert.
      I rambled on far too long but I meant well.. ;).’

      • CC ...
        05/14/2013 at 11:11 am

        How exciting, Deco! I loooooove rambling so it was wonderful to read someone else doing it, too! How exciting it must have been for you–kudos to you! Your daughters are very lucky. 🙂

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 8:08 am

      Oh CC how exciting for your niece and how proud you must be. This will be an awesome, life changing experience for her and with all the terrible things we have been hearing, this is like a breath of fresh air.

      May your niece be blessed with continued excitement, new life lessons, friends and customs and return home safely with the courage to continue to change the world for the better, in any way she can. Kudos to her!!!!!! I’m truly impressed because I would never have been brave enough to go on my own.

      • CC ...
        05/14/2013 at 11:09 am

        Thank you soooo much! I am very proud indeed. 🙂

  5. janeto
    05/13/2013 at 6:52 pm

    Ok, who wants to “sucker bet” on WOBO coming up with something else to delay Wednesday?? And also, bet we don’t start on time!! Any hands??

    • TexiBelle
      05/13/2013 at 7:10 pm

      Maybe a migraine? Hey Jodi, you know what’s great for migraines? Potassium cyanide.

      • Family of Law
        05/13/2013 at 8:07 pm

        Lol!!! The “ultimate freedom” from migraines!

      • TexiBelle
        05/13/2013 at 8:15 pm


      • TexiBelle
        05/13/2013 at 8:18 pm

        a story you’ll appreciate FOL–the first few days we rode outside this season, my horse (remember, the fiery latino with the anxiety disorder?) was spooking at a new, small dumpster by the outdoor ring. Well today he was freaking the hell out because the dumpster WASN’T there.

      • Family of Law
        05/13/2013 at 8:20 pm

        Seriously, that just made me laugh OUTLOUD! “damned of its there, damned of its NOT”!!!

      • TexiBelle
        05/13/2013 at 8:26 pm

        Ugh, sometimes he just has to be a dick and a half. At one point I asked my trainer if he had lipgloss behind his ears, because that’s where I faceplanted during his latest buck.

    • ringadingding
      05/13/2013 at 8:33 pm

      Oh, she’ll come up with something else all right, but I assume she’s already moving into full fledged appeals mode so I think she’ll have to come up with a fresh new stunt.

  6. MMD
    05/13/2013 at 7:48 pm

    I’m still watching OJ. I have a bad feeling that he might get his conviction overturned or get a retrial 😦

    • NancyB
      05/13/2013 at 8:45 pm

      No way.

    • Family of Law
      05/13/2013 at 8:54 pm

      I really doubt it- the “heads” are referring to this attempt as a “hail Mary pass”- it really seems that that’s all it is.

  7. Janna
    05/13/2013 at 7:52 pm

    Geez! I feel like an alternate juror in the Jodi Arias Trial with spiral notebooks scattered around the house filled with lists, notes, names, dates, timelines, observations, personal comments, exhibit numbers, etc.

    Throughout the trial I’ve been collecting memorable words and phrases that enriched my trial watching experience. Here’s a few of my all time faves …

    Transient Global Amnesia

    Stabby Einstein

    Mister Juanderful

    Booty call


    Law of Attraction


    3-hole wonder

    Dildo with a heartbeat

    A cosmetic approach to your pelvic area (by Juan Martinez)

    Is Snow White a Battered Woman?

    Edify and De-edify





    Tootsie pops, poprocks, KY jelly and rope


    Borderline Personality Disorder

    Heinz 57 Disorder


    Born again virgin





    • Family of Law
      05/13/2013 at 8:10 pm

      ROFL!!!! Very funny!!!!

    • Beans
      05/13/2013 at 8:19 pm

      jinkasaurus and stabby einstein are courtesy of eggtree. if you haven’t read her check it out, she’s fall down funny. she also called dr. samuels ‘boss hogg with the jacked up teefs’

      • Janna
        05/13/2013 at 9:34 pm

        LOVE those eggtree articles.

      • Janna
        05/13/2013 at 9:48 pm

        I call Richard Samuels …. Dr. Dick

      • Ginger
        05/13/2013 at 11:17 pm

        Egg tree is awesome hilarious!

      • stephanie
        05/14/2013 at 12:25 pm

        Don’t forget Heavy D

    • 05/13/2013 at 10:39 pm

      And for fortification…Tim tams and vegimite?.vodka from OZ ? Dura magna?
      I kept no lists but I knw in my now Foggy memory, there are some more phrases that have ented all our vocabularies.
      Vah jay jay…. Astro glide….there have to be so many more from LaLa and the Doc. Skateboarding gangs wielding screwdrivers.
      Your list should grow by leaps and bounds. Thanks for the memories,Janna.

    • nyccowgirl
      05/13/2013 at 11:46 pm

      don’t forget conversate…whatever the f that meant!

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 8:10 am

      Hey I’d call you an “expert witness”!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You’ve obviously been paying attention!!! 😯

    • 05/14/2013 at 10:38 am

      Two of my faves came from (who else?) Juan Martinez: “That UNHOLY underwear” and the bloody footprints looked like a “wildebeest migration.”

      • Lisa M
        05/14/2013 at 6:25 pm

        My favorite quote from Juan is “It’s your fog, isn’t it?”

  8. MMD
    05/13/2013 at 7:58 pm

    This OJ judge is efficient – worried about time so starting at 8 instead of 9 tomorrow. Someone needs to tell Judge Stephens about these other courtrooms and their hours plus punctuality.

    • HJ Madison
      05/13/2013 at 8:00 pm

      That guy is such a career criminal now, even if he does get out it will not be long before he is back in! Agree about the judge …. she is as inefficient as Judge Ito.

  9. Janna
  10. 05/13/2013 at 8:11 pm

    Any body heard that Jodi said that she had photographic evidence on her hardrive od Travis chasing a naked 4 year old boy? And witnesses that would have testified about seeing her with bruises her defense team didn’t bring in. She didn’t want to bring up his abuse but the defense did it against her wishes. KSAZ interview after the verdict.

    • Beans
      05/13/2013 at 8:15 pm

      listening to NG (i know) talk about it now.

    • Janna
      05/13/2013 at 8:19 pm

      From what I remember, the hard drive of her computer had been severely damaged (intentionally) when found by investigators after her arrest. I’ve felt all along that she has a secret well-hidden stash of evidence. Just sayin’

      • HJ Madison
        05/13/2013 at 8:28 pm

        Secret stash of evidence?? Or secret stash of material exonerating Travis and negating her ugly allegations!

      • CC ...
        05/13/2013 at 8:28 pm

        By evidence do you mean trophies (photos of other behavior, perchance?)
        I don’t know if she’s killed before or not but the hair on my neck stood when she mentioned “I’ve never killed anyone before” (or words to that effect) when she was testifying. I’m not entirely convinced she hasn’t.

      • TexiBelle
        05/13/2013 at 8:46 pm

        Yeah, thankfully that stash of evidence of Travis’ abuse and deviancy that it was able to clear her of a first degree murder conviction. OH WAIT…

      • Janna
        05/13/2013 at 8:47 pm

        While Travis was still alive, Arias stole some of his private journals. Those were never found. There’s also the ring she stole from Travis’ house. I’ve always believed she has evidence from the crime scene. No way do I believe she ditched everything in the desert.

      • Kristy
        05/13/2013 at 10:00 pm

        Wait a second, broke Jodi had a storage locker with all her Travis trophies?

    • HJ Madison
      05/13/2013 at 8:29 pm

      Hey Bubble … where ya’ been?

      • 05/13/2013 at 8:35 pm

        Hey HJ, took a break for a bit. Her BS was infuriating me. I bet wednesday she has a migraine…

        Hey all! Happy belated Mother’s Day to all too. I been breathing for a bit. Watching ridiculous movies I would never watch were it not for a desire to get away from Funky Arias in a mind numbing way aside from alcohol. My anger with her moves after her conviction just pissed me off so, I needed to get away for a bit.

      • HJ Madison
        05/13/2013 at 8:42 pm

        I don’t blame you! I started to watch Lincoln, Vampire Hunter but it got too out there for me. Thought I would like it since I really like “The Walking Dead”… shocking, I know. Oh well! We had some OJ hilarity today — he is getting fat and old!

      • 05/13/2013 at 10:56 pm

        Hi Bubble !, know what you mean about emotional depletion by Arias. Went ther too
        To HJ,,,,,I love Walkimg Dead. And Justified, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, even Dexter. True Blood might be losing me, but I’m still loving Boardwalk Empire and Downtown Abbey, the new Upstairs Downstairs..well pretty much all things Masterpiece.
        Most of all I’ve found a whole group of entertains people that have opinions and new viewpoints I am so thrilled to have encountered. Thank you all

    • NancyB
      05/13/2013 at 8:47 pm

      The detectives found that damaged hard drive of hers in JA’s storage locker, IIRC

      • Janna
        05/13/2013 at 9:30 pm

        Thanks for confirming.

        One thing that haunts me is the journals she stole from Travis. He was writing his book and lots of the book material was written in his personal journals.

    • Kristy
      05/13/2013 at 9:45 pm

      Get outta town, she’s allowed to do that or is it her wacko following that still think she’s innocent?

    • Kristi
      05/13/2013 at 11:41 pm

      Soooo, if she took photos of an adult male molesting a 4 year old boy, then she can and should be charged with child pornography, manufacture of child porn and if she loaded it on her computer, possibly intent to distribute. That stupid bitch!

    • stephanie
      05/14/2013 at 12:27 pm

      I heard that he was dressed up as a catholic priest and the boy was dressed. It was supposed to be a joke. Of course she makes it out to be a big deal

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 6:32 pm

      Yes, so beyond disgusting. I saw that on Nancy Grace last night. The weird part was she said that SHE took the photo. She said something ridiculous like they were goofing around but then she realized later when the other fake incident happened that she should have taken note of it. It was ludicrous. She said her attorneys said it wasn’t “relevant.” More like it doesn’t exist. And she said her attorney never did anything to try to find photos of her all black and blue and to talk to her witnesses. Yeah, right! Their whole case was based on her supposedly being a battered woman. There’s no way that they wouldn’t have moved hell and high water to get some actual evidence. She’s so hateful. She really wants to hurt Travis and his family badly. Like Syntara said in a post above, she’s still punishing him. It’s truly beyond the pale, and I hope that that sealed meeting today had something to do with keeping her away from the press. The family should not have to deal with this garbage anymore. She had her day in court; her lies were rejected and now she needs to shut up.

  11. Janna
    05/13/2013 at 8:16 pm

    Official Media Advisory from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. Funny ha-ha. Only 1 hour each day for phone calls and showers.

  12. Janna
    05/13/2013 at 8:27 pm

    CLOSED CUSTODY – This custody is more restrictive and is for those who must be closely watched because they are an escape risk, have been convicted of very serious crimes, or their actions in prison have shown they will not follow the rules. Inmates in Close Custody are also under constant supervision.

    Sheriff Joe is gettin’ his pay back.

    • Jay
      05/13/2013 at 9:23 pm

      A preview of what her life will be if she ends up on death row.

  13. ringadingding
    05/13/2013 at 8:35 pm

    Heh heh…Nancy Grace is reporting that Arizona only has one dose left for lethal injection. Panic ensues…

    • HJ Madison
      05/13/2013 at 8:45 pm

      Seriously! Did she report it as ….”BOMBSHELL TONIGHT….AZ has nearly run out of death juice and the scramble is on to source more from Texas!”

      • HJ Madison
        05/13/2013 at 8:49 pm

        Not that I am picking on Texas … just seems like they may buy the stuff in bulk.😉😉

      • ringadingding
        05/13/2013 at 9:04 pm

        lol…No, she didn’t! She’s slipping…

  14. 05/13/2013 at 8:41 pm

    Cont’d from above:

    I guess I was just overwhelmed by hatred of Jodi so much I figured I needed a rest.

  15. Janna
    05/13/2013 at 8:53 pm

    Check out this February video and read paragraph about “Closed Custody”

    Sounds like Arias is locked in a cell for 23 hours per day. YIKES!!


    • HJ Madison
      05/13/2013 at 9:06 pm

      Good find!

    • NancyB
      05/13/2013 at 9:09 pm

      Janna – this is a great article. Hopefully she will stay on that pod until she is sentenced and shipped off to prison. 23 hour lock down is the ticket!

    • Family of Law
      05/13/2013 at 9:43 pm

      Thanks for this great find Janna! It makes me smile to think of her being so isolated, and having no audience. What I wouldn’t give to have a hidden mic and camera in there!

    • 05/13/2013 at 11:31 pm

      Poor Jodi.. So sad. Too bad.

    • ctc111
      05/14/2013 at 8:38 am

      Hi All. I somehow think that ‘SHE’ threatened the Alexander family that last day at court, when the extra officers were called in. this is still too good for her, cant wait till she gets to isolation and we can forget her.

      BTW where is Syn?

  16. NancyB
  17. 05/13/2013 at 9:11 pm

    how does it happen that arias fans are getting the Alexander family kicked off twitter?

    • TexiBelle
      05/13/2013 at 9:14 pm

      I think I read a quote by Chris Hughes that the Alexander family really aren’t on social media to begin with, namely twitter?

  18. NancyB
    05/13/2013 at 9:17 pm

    I’m slow but I just figured out why Donoman had to shut down the former twitter page! Dono being a parolee post felony can no longer correspond with a imprisoned felon. Bering was forced to close JA’s twitter account or take a chance of violating her parole.

    MMD – you posted new tweets – what is her twitter addy?

  19. Beans
    05/13/2013 at 9:26 pm

    interesting conversation on dr. drew with another shrink concerning stabby’s various diagnoses.

  20. 05/13/2013 at 9:27 pm

    Jodi’s new address is or was TravisAlexander@jodiarias, the Headline reading I’m TA and I like little boys…That one might have been shutdown, she has another one

    • 05/13/2013 at 9:48 pm

      How can this be?

  21. Kristy
    05/13/2013 at 9:41 pm

    I can’t believe she’s allowed 1 hour to call and perpetuate her bs crap after getting convicted. But I would guess she has no more direct access to Donoman. I guess Jodi likes her momma again, unless Donomans gift doesn’t have a record.

  22. Wendy
    05/13/2013 at 9:42 pm

    Hey everyone!! Finally a minute to set down and satisfy my craving. (ie.this crazy trial or whats left).

  23. ringadingding
    05/13/2013 at 9:48 pm

    A few of my favorite JA bullshitteries (with first person liberties taken):

    I was found guilty because of the way the law was written.

    I had a better idea than going to trial, but the state *forced* me into being a defendant charged with brutally stabbing, shooting and nearly-decapitating* a man I was no longer interested in.

    I didn’t want to make my victim’s hypocrisy public, but now that I’ve been found guilty on a technicality called First Degree Murder, please stay tuned for more examples of how depraved he is.

    I respected *Juan* for being a capable attorney, but that was before he got all Shady McShadster by blocking my phony evidence.

    I haven’t decided what I want to do with the rest of my life. I’m young, healthy and don’t want to be tied down to living in one place.

    I have prayed for the jurors. In fact, I would pray the crap out of them if I had the chance.

    • 05/13/2013 at 9:57 pm

      LMAO….JA bullshitteries! That is theee best word ever 🙂

  24. 05/13/2013 at 9:54 pm

    What the hell is this new information about Stabby having evidence on her hard drive of Travis chasing a naked 4 yr old boy? Then a picture of her showing her bruising all over…also said friends,sister and family saw the bruises all over her and they would have vouched for it but supposedly her DT said no, it’s not necessary..nor was the picture of TA. Is she serious? Come on!! You know damn well her family and friends would have lied for her just like Matt M. did. As for the pic with TA, she’s NUTS!!!! Thoughts?opinions?

    When does it end Jodi??? When?

    • ringadingding
      05/13/2013 at 9:58 pm

      It’s all B.S. Nothing more to it. She’s going for a scorched earth approach at this point. No one involved in this trial is safe–victim, victim’s family, prosecutor, DT and jurors. Funny, I don’t think I recall her ever having made a sideways comment about the judge….

    • 05/13/2013 at 11:42 pm

      “STABBY” This is too good for words bailey good! Not a bad name for the crazy bitch!
      Seems to fit doesn’t it? Have a great week and this is a great week because “Stabby” got first degree!! How could we even ask for more. god bless the alexanders today and always. it’s not an easy thing to get past losing a loved one and especially in such a brutal manner but they are a STRONG family and have stood together all these years waiting and being there for justice for their brother. and they got it so be happy for a small mercy here. Jodi Arias will die for her crime and sooner than later with luck and the justice system at it’s best.

      • 05/14/2013 at 3:04 am

        Amen trial watcher!!!

  25. Kristy
    05/13/2013 at 9:54 pm

    How do folks know that Jodi stole Travis’s journals? We’re they missing? And why would she have pics of him chasing a 4 year old naked? And what’s the story on her hard drive? I missed all that.

    • Janna
      05/13/2013 at 10:15 pm

      The stolen Travis journals were discussed during the trial.

      Is she evil enough to arrange for some Photoshop pics? Who would help her do that?

      • janeto
        05/13/2013 at 10:47 pm

        They are probably pictures that she colored herself! Lol

      • Kristy
        05/13/2013 at 11:00 pm

        I don’t remember that. Who brought it up and what what WOBOs response? What didn’t WOBOs steal? The dog? Is that the only thing she didn’t steal?

  26. 05/13/2013 at 10:04 pm

    For her to destroy her hard drive, she must have had something she was hiding. That has guilt written all over it. Is there a way to some how retrieve info?

    • Janna
      05/13/2013 at 10:21 pm

      I agree Bailey. What normal person would destroy their hard drive? She had a few weeks and lots of lead time to destroy evidence after her first interview with Detective Esteban. He tipped her off unintentionally. DARN!!!

      • 05/14/2013 at 3:30 am

        Exactly!!!! And right, what normal person would just randomly do that for no reason? Then have to pay more money to get another one, all because they just decided to destroy it. I wish they questioned her on the stand about that. I’m surprised they let that issue go so quickly.

        I also think during those few weeks she did some “journaling” to prepare for what was coming. The reason I think this, is, because she volunteered her journals to Det. Flores and said they will show I’m innocent. it’s not like he knew she had them. She could have destroyd them too but I think she honestly thought they would help her.

        One thing I question IS, why did she keep all those reciepts? Several of them helped convict her. Is she that stupid to keep them knowing they could be against her? I think her Einstein-ness was on vaca that week lol

  27. NancyB
    05/13/2013 at 10:18 pm

    TRAVIS BROTHER released a statement: “May 8th was a great day! A verdict was handed down and finally we can call her a murderer but it wasn’t too long until she stole the spotlight again. Travis waited almost 5 years to have the person responsible for his death be convicted of murder. It took her 20 mins to bring the spotlight back on her – trashing Travis even more. Justice still waits. The hardest part is only just beginning. Please keep praying for justice. We are halfway there. Thank you all for your support and love. We are not done yet! Justice 4 Travis!”

    ~ Steven Alexander, Travis’ brother

    • donchais
      05/13/2013 at 10:25 pm

      I weep every day for these families..they need some satisfaction here and lets hope they get it sooner than later!

    • Family of Law
      05/13/2013 at 10:55 pm

      Thanks for sharing his poignant words here Nancy- It’s truly heartbreaking. I hope they come to realize that JA’s “Thunder Stealing” interview was just another nail in her coffin. My thoughts and prayers remain with Travis and his family, Wednesday will be brutal for them.

  28. Janna
    05/13/2013 at 10:29 pm

    So far Jodi Arias has displayed less remorse than a serial killer. Very insightful article. WOW!!


    • Jay
      05/13/2013 at 11:09 pm

      Thanks, that was really informative.

    • HJ Madison
      05/13/2013 at 11:11 pm

      Janna, you are a cornucopia (Jodi would like that word!) of interesting links …. another good one. Many thanks!

      • Janna
        05/13/2013 at 11:48 pm

        Hahahahaaaaa HJ. Janna Horn of Plenty. Thanks for the late night chuckle.

    • Kristy
      05/13/2013 at 11:50 pm

      Is anyone actually shocked at how Jodi focused she is, and how her mom is just a prop to her?

    • 05/14/2013 at 6:26 am

      AWESOME article!! The info on her soon to be new home is a far cry from where she has been living the past 5 years. She will def be shell shocked!

  29. HJ Madison
    05/13/2013 at 11:19 pm

    Deco :
    Hi Bubble !, know what you mean about emotional depletion by Arias. Went ther too
    To HJ,,,,,I love Walkimg Dead. And Justified, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, even Dexter. True Blood might be losing me, but I’m still loving Boardwalk Empire and Downtown Abbey, the new Upstairs Downstairs..well pretty much all things Masterpiece.
    Most of all I’ve found a whole group of entertains people that have opinions and new viewpoints I am so thrilled to have encountered. Thank you all

    Deco … did you change your avatar? If this is regular old Deco … another good one I just found is on Sundance Channel (On Demand has it to catch up previous episodes) called “Rectify”. About a guy sent to Death Row when he was 18. After 19 years he has been released due to new DNA evidence, but we don’t know the “truth” yet. A fascinating look at what happens to your brain on Death Row …. it is SLOW to start … but has picked up and is very good.

  30. 05/13/2013 at 11:49 pm

    I want to Thank You Donchais for all of your hard work during this trial and sentencing of Arias! Travis got the justice he deserved! She may not get the death penalty but we know she will never get out and will die in a prison cell for her crime. That is enough for many of us. I am Canadian and DO believe in the DP even though it’s been abolished for many years now. In this case I think she will suffer more locked up forever. so long folks have a great summer and I wish the best to you all. Take very good care of each other and show how much u love one another because u never know what tomorrow may bring
    C Ya Trial watcher

    • Jill
      05/14/2013 at 12:52 am

      Ty u for the gentle reminder…you r right….we never know what tomorrow brings….
      Wish u the best in life….nice reading your opinions and u seem like a great person!
      You take care too!

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 8:38 am

      Thank you Trial Watcher and please drop by when you can. I have enjoyed our chats 😀

  31. NancyB
    05/14/2013 at 12:10 am
    • Janna
      05/14/2013 at 12:45 am

      THAT is scarey! I’m in the camp who believes she could and would kill again.

      This quote sent chills down my back …

      ” I think she has the highest propensity to escape from prison of any other suspect I have analyzed since Diane Downs. “

      • NancyB
        05/14/2013 at 1:15 am

        Hi Jana! That was the very same sentence that gripped me too!

      • Janna
        05/14/2013 at 1:21 am

        JodiLand is filled with EVIL.

        In my humble opinion … psychopathy + evil = deadly formula

      • 05/14/2013 at 4:21 am


        psychopathy = evil

        Psychopath by definition is non “human”… devoid of the inner boundaries [conscience] and a full range of human qualities such as compassion and empathy, that make a person “human”. They simply lack any semblance of kindness.

        Read Dr Robert Hare’s “Without Conscience”

        There is no “psychopath + evil” because as limited a definition we have for evil, psychopath = evil as understood by many cultures and religions around the globe.

        There is no such thing as a benevolent psychopath.. however, psychopaths often feign benevolence for personal gain. A “psychopath” who is not “evil” is not a psychopath.

  32. 05/14/2013 at 12:42 am

    Was it true that some sexually explicit photos were recovered on JA’s broken external drive? This was on this site posted here awhile back

    • NancyB
      05/14/2013 at 1:20 am

      No, the State’s expert stated that the detectives found that corrupted hard drive in JA’s Yreka storage locker and that *nothing* was able to be recovered from it. However, some mention was made by Det Flores in the interrogation with JA about pictures of them in different sexual poses that he wasn’t going to show her. That’s what I remember.

      • Janna
        05/14/2013 at 1:26 am

        I’m thinking his (Flores) reference to the sexual poses were pertaining to what they found on the camera. Thankfully we were spared from seeing/viewing everything that was recovered on that miracle camera card.

        Seems there were poses of Arias & Alexander fully “engaged”


      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 8:40 am

        Yuck Janna 😯

      • 05/14/2013 at 9:32 am

        On that website, the following was posted. So with all the info being posted, then it’s incorrectly, right? The broken hard drive was from a locker, located where? And there wasn’t another one from her Yreka home?

        Where this was posted, someone wrote:

        “LOL, Look at the court reporter’s face”

        On another post in reference to this picture:

        “According to InSession today, these images were removed from the broken external hard drive recovered from Arias’ Yreka home…just thought I’d clarify”.

  33. NancyB
    05/14/2013 at 1:59 am

    This infuriates me! Beth Karas mentioned last week that now that JA is a convicted felon all of her commissary funds will be given to the family as part of restitution. Karas said the last time that the jail gave her info on JA’s account that she had more than $2500.00 in it. Most inmates have no more than $25. Sooo, now Donoman is coming to the rescue to divert $$.

    From Chris Stark


  34. NancyB
    05/14/2013 at 2:02 am

    And then there is this:


    I reported her to the CA Tax Franchise Board last week but now I intend to file another complaint with them. Anyone else that would like to send them an email -I’ll post the link below this so I don’t go into moderation.

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 8:44 am

      I read on Chris Stark’s twitter a while back that Nancy Sinatra is going after her for copyright infringement. Seems JA is pissing off people all around the world for any number of wrongdoings. I guess that family never learns 🙄

  35. NancyB
    • Jay
      05/14/2013 at 9:22 am

      What about an email campaign to Donovan’s parole board? Any way to get that email address?

      • NancyB
        05/14/2013 at 10:26 am

        Thanks Jay! Great idea – I’ll see if I can find it and will update here.

  36. 05/14/2013 at 2:56 am

    Of course she’s not mad at ole’ Sherry..she allows unlimited absences, late starts, Fridays off, laughing, snickering, stare downs, note passing, craft time, pill popping, secret vulgar hand gestures, talking back to the prosecuter, coaching of the defense witnesses and whispering during the trial! It’s a free for all in Judge Sherrys court room! Why wouldn’t she like her???

  37. 05/14/2013 at 3:17 am

    Ohhhh dear lord Janna! We think sooo much alike!!! As I’m watching Jodi spew this new disgusting bullsh*t I said to my husband,oh my god I bet she gets someone to phtoshop bruises on her and also morphs 2 pictures together. One of Travis with his bible running or being silly and another of a friends kid running around naked after a bath or something innocent. She is absolutely aick and twisted enough to do that. She hates being wrong and needs to get the last word in. Why she’s even bothering at this point is stupid. What doea she think the jury is going to say? Oh Jodes sorry, we got it wrong and want to change our verdict.

    Well, as my husband said…there are experts in that field that can figure out whether or not they are photoshopped. If they are…another lie…BUSTED again!!!

  38. jad
    05/14/2013 at 3:31 am

    There is some really interesting information on the Internet about some of the backers (who are the same persons) for those web sites that sprung up for [the enrichment of] Casey Anthony and for Jodi Arias. A gentleman with the screen name of dec3iver has gone to a lot of trouble to decipher some of this information for us (that would show some of the financial scams and schemes involved in this network). There are at least four web sites that he has exposed that are all interconnected with the people connected with the protection of Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias [that would include Jose Baez, among others].

    Two of the addresses [to view his work] are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7xeOLD3apw&list=UUiSzJJA17nKE5qfrvly9Ynw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5g1jso06Y&list=UUiSzJJA17nKE5qfrvly9Ynw&index=3 There are other links to view, also.

  39. Chrissie A
    05/14/2013 at 4:25 am

    HJ Madison :

    Hey HJ what are you psychic or what? Heading back from Maui, (been working on a project there) landing in LA in a bit – hope to hook up with Trace and take her to Idyllwild for some R&R

  40. jad
    05/14/2013 at 4:29 am

    THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VICIOUS RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE DEFENSE TEAM OF CRIMINAL LAWYERS [AND THE CONVICTED CRIMINAL JODI ARIAS] ALLEGING PEDOPHILIA AGAINST THE DECEASED VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME. If these people backing [the likes of Casey Anthony and/or] Jodi Arias persist in the slander of Travis Alexander, maybe they know something about themselves (that others should know). It was not that long ago that the feds came down on DREAMBOARD with Operation Delago. That was a federal operation that busted monsters, who celebrated the sexual abuse of children younger than 12, by posting [sadistic acts involving] kiddie porn on a bulletin board, called DREAMBOARD. They used proxy servers and encryption, but the DOJ managed to take 72 of these foul creatures out of commission. However, (the DOJ should not have rested on its laurels, as) there are many more that need to be outed and busted. So, if the Jodi Arias faction is saying they know something about pedophiles, then, let them speak up.

    Usually the freaks that are involved in child sex crimes are those that call out others for what they, themselves, are — so that eyes are diverted from looking at the real monsters. If accusations of pedophilia continue, these b*stards should know that people will believe that those who are the false accusers are the ones that should be watched. These compatriots of Jodi Arias should realize that those operating to deceive others will eventually fail in a not-so-well-thought-out devilish plan, by their intentional acts of slander and libel directed towards an innocent man. BUT, since the pedophile charge has been brought up, (they must be instructed) please do tell more, and provide some evidence to back up the charge (or forever be silenced in the defamation of one without that blemish). Accordingly, be forewarned that virtual realities and box in a box are already recognized, and can be examined for any type of manipulation to identity.

    If this is not done, any person who continues to make these charges, without providing assistance to Law Enforcement about such criminal activity (that is child abuse) should be arrested as an accessory, and, if knowledge is denied while acting to defame, be liable for the tort of slander. There will be no more of what has been described in http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/08/feds-hack-past-user-anonymity-bust-72-subscribers-to-child-porn-horror-site/ Pedophiles must be exposed, and if there is a known network, it should be exposed and shut down. Whether the base of operations is San Diego, or Yreka, or other locale, it will happen. It is just a matter of time. Hopefully those associating with Jodi Arias will know that, if they are involved in any enterprise ([whether it is selling so-called artwork without paying their fair share of taxes or] posting what should NOT be seen, such as child-porn), the feds (through the IRS CID or the DOJ) will eventually catch up. Until that time, the Jodi Arias backers have the opportunity to show their stuff.

    If they can deliver this material that shows pedophilia, it would have to be examined for its authenticity (as were those phony documents attributed to Matt McCartney that Jodi Arias tried to pass off as proof of child pornography). [Sandy Arias, the mother of Jodi Arias, had also tried to pass off the same documents, but she was turned down by the National Enquirer because the National Enquirer had also concluded the documents were forged.] From these actions, it is clear that Jodi Arias seems to be involved in child pornography because of the manner she has been focused. For, she must be the one who is a pedophile, because these false accusations have been the center of attention for her and her alone (since there is no proof of any other). If there can be no proof against Mr. Alexander, the safe bet is against Jodi Arias, a most cunning and wicked woman.

  41. Tracey A
    05/14/2013 at 4:34 am

    What are you kidding me??? You got to go to Maui and I have to meet you in Idyllwild? No thanks, Who wants to go to Idyllwild???? No ONE!!!!! Really??? Idyllwild??? You’re I’d rather meet you in Cordonado! Please!

  42. Tracey A
    05/14/2013 at 4:40 am

    I’d rather meet you in Coronado! Give me a break! Big difference here! You who just came in from Maui.

    • Chrissie A
      05/14/2013 at 4:43 am

      Hey Trace, Glad you could join us,, did you hear that Ariarse is out of psycho watch and in solitary? Just deserts – lol

  43. Tracey A
    05/14/2013 at 4:55 am

    You mean just desserts. You friggin’ Brit! Get with the program. Luv you to death, but I will fight you for the death here on out on deserts vs desserts. You have a freakin’ trifle and we have a freakin’ desert! A sand desert! Not a trifle! Or Triffel. To me.

  44. Tracey A
    05/14/2013 at 4:59 am

    Luv you! Mean it, Chrissie! 😀

  45. 05/14/2013 at 7:56 am

    OMG r u kidding me? Donovan on twitter again?

    #1- I am astonished once again that Jodi has yet another chane to redeem herself and donate that commisary money to the Alexander family for travel expenses and such but noooo, she wants it to go to her mama who she hated so much and who she threw under the bus! Jodi has had so many chances to really give herself a mitigation factor as that serial killer did based on remorse and kindness but she is such a POS psychopath it’s sickening!! I have grown such hatred towards a person I don’t even know. I do not hate anyone in my life but Jodi is awaste of human life!

    #2- Donovan is actually advertising herself on Twitter to be a guest on Nancy Grace/HLN after Jodi has done nothing but bash them? She wants to tell her story about her and Jodi. PLEASE hln, don’t give them another second to bask in the limelight. UNLESS, they unleash NG on her and rip her big ass to shreds…BOMBSHELL TONIGHT 🙂 😉

    Sorry for the rant session. I’m very talkative today and yesterday as you can see lol. This case has me going to the loony bin. I’ll shut the hell up now 😦

    • 05/14/2013 at 8:02 am

      I agree Baileymwith all your points. Where did you hear about this?

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 8:49 am

      Bailey, I think she is simply begging NG and others on HLN to INVITE her on their show. I wonder if they will stoop that low. After all, her usefulness to JA is now over. 🙄

      • 05/14/2013 at 9:02 am

        maybe let them.. once the stuff we need done in court is over.. cos who knows… another interview might result in follow up psych ward visit and then back into closed custody. Best place for her!

      • 05/14/2013 at 1:17 pm

        Lol thats exactly what she’s doing. Please let me be on your show before everyone forgets about me wa wa wa! But then again, since Jodes is done with her maybe she kicked her to the curb in a cold way and Dono is ready to throw her under the bus?? Now that would def be worth an interview!!!

  46. MMD
    05/14/2013 at 8:13 am

    CC … :
    By evidence do you mean trophies (photos of other behavior, perchance?)
    I don’t know if she’s killed before or not but the hair on my neck stood when she mentioned “I’ve never killed anyone before” (or words to that effect) when she was testifying. I’m not entirely convinced she hasn’t.

    I totally agree. I’ve been saying since this trial started that deep in my gut I feel that somewhere, somehow, she has killed before!!! She is pure evil 👿

  47. 05/14/2013 at 8:23 am

    Hi everyone.. thankfully been busy few submissios to work… this waiting until Wednesday seems to be sending a few feral if I didn’t have my related diversions think I’d be up there too.

    Nice to read subject is now reportedly in solitary 23 hours. Hope it is true. No matter what the sentence that’s where she needs to be. As jad said… subject is extremely cunning and wicked… add desperation and it all adds up to very dangerous.

    Maybe too early for desperation, she may still feel some form of control. Wish we had access to that audio and video cell monitoring, then we would know for sure.

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 8:50 am

      Really missed you darlin’ 😦 Robert disappeared as well!!!

      • 05/14/2013 at 8:55 am

        oh Rhoberr not been around? maybe he is just spending some quality time with his wife while there is a break in proceedings?

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 9:07 am

        Probably but it’s not the same without the 2 of you. We can survive with 1 missing but both – nope!!!! 😦

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/14/2013 at 2:25 pm

        Hey you two!! Hug. Been mostly getting things done before flying to California tomorrow morning, I’ll be at a different computer,,,, maybe I’ll sign in as Robert in CA….been catching up!

    • Family of Law
      05/14/2013 at 10:30 am

      Syn!!!! There you are! You’ve been missed! ****Helloooooooo*****

      • 05/14/2013 at 10:34 am

        helllloo!!! I did read you tried to channel me… lol how did that go? complete with accent? 😛

      • Family of Law
        05/14/2013 at 10:46 am

        Lol!!!! I did try! (it’s on the previous page re: my unpleasant table-mate) I can only do a Scottish accent! My Aussie sounds like a bad Crocodile Dundee!!! “Shrimp on the barbie…” Not good…

  48. Beans
    05/14/2013 at 8:44 am

    OT alert. if anyone hasn’t seen it and needs a smile check Commander Chris Hadfield’s ‘Space Oddity’ vid on youtube.

    • HJ Madison
      05/14/2013 at 8:53 am

      I was going to mention today how much I admired that Canuck!

      • Beans
        05/14/2013 at 9:06 am

        yeah we’re just a little proud of him.

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 10:42 am


    • 05/14/2013 at 9:28 am


      “DAVID Bowie has given Commander Chris Hadfield the thumbs up for the astronaut’s zero gravity version of Space Oddity.

      The five-minute video posted by NASA drew a salute from Bowie’s official Facebook page: “It’s possibly the most poignant version of the song ever created.””

      • NancyB
        05/14/2013 at 10:34 am

        I love love love this! I’ve been following him on Twitter for the past 5 months! His pictures from space have been awesome but that singing was so cute!!!

      • 05/14/2013 at 10:35 am

        absolutely adorable!!!

  49. 05/14/2013 at 8:54 am

    They need to have some serious guards on the subject if she gets any extended periods in 23 hour lockdown.

    Thinking long term.. should she be in permanent solitary lockdown… she will do anything to get attention, if manipulating the guards doesn’t work… attacking them could get her into court for a while. What happens if someone in solitary does attack a guard (not saying she is at that stage yet just hypothetical?)

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 9:05 am

      check out the link to ‘eyes for lies’ nancy b provided above.

      • 05/14/2013 at 9:12 am

        hmm ok just read it.. not sure if the writer realises that Jodi knew mentioning wanting the DP could get her thrown in there. If so I would like a better explanation why she seems to dismiss it.

  50. MMD
    05/14/2013 at 9:05 am

    Unfreakingbelievable – Check out this from HLN:


    As Scot Safon Praises Team
    By Alex Weprin on May 13, 2013 6:11 PM

    HLN is coming off of a number of record-breaking months in terms of viewership, bolstered by coverage of the Jodi Arias trial, which culminated with last week’s guilty verdict. In a memo to staff this afternoon obtained by TVNewser, HLN executive VP Scot Safon congratulated the team on their work, and previewed what HLN has coming down the pipeline.

    Among the changes: “HLN After Dark” will become a full-time member of HLN’s nightly lineup, where it will focus “on stories (trials and otherwise) in the ‘court of public opinion,’” according to Safon’s note. The channel is also gearing up for its next big trial, that of George Zimmerman, which begins June 10th, and the Daytime Emmy Awards on June 16th. There are also Nancy Grace, Dr. Drew Pinsky and Jane Velez-Mitchell specials in the works.

    Read Safon’s full note to HLN staff, below.

    May 13, 2013


    Throughout the many months of planning our coverage of the Jodi Arias trial, we agreed that each of our platforms had to do its very best work. Now that the trial is coming to a conclusion, I am proud to note that HLN, IN SESSION and HLNtv.com all managed to exceed our highest expectations.

    Your tireless efforts were apparent on-air, online and behind-the-scenes. Our teams presented this trial decisively, vividly and realistically. Strong promotion, PR and research ensured America knew HLN was the network to go to for the best coverage of this trial. Our on-the-ground efforts in Phoenix were outstanding, and the teams at HLN and IN SESSION again exemplified first-rate professionalism in a challenging, unpredictable venue.

    Throughout the coverage, you demonstrated a remarkable level of innovation and creativity. Shows re-invented themselves, finding surprising new ways to present information and engage the audience. One of our most high-profile innovations, HLN AFTER DARK, proved that audiences would respond to some of our most ambitious risk-taking.
    HLN AFTER DARK will soon take its place as a nightly HLN primetime program, focusing on stories (trials and otherwise) in the ‘court of public opinion.’

    This is an exciting time for us. HLN’s coverage of the Arias trial delivered some of the biggest sustained audience numbers in the network’s history. With record-setting March and April numbers, HLN also ranked #1 among all cable news networks in the hours surrounding the verdict in the key P25-54 demo. HLNtv.com recorded its highest month ever (April), and scored its best day ever on Wednesday, hitting 10 million page views and 1.2 million unique visitors.

    There is much more ahead. We’re planning for the Trial of George Zimmerman, with continuous coverage starting June 10. We’re putting final touches on an unforgettable documentary called NANCY GRACE BEHIND BARS, a haunting DR DREW primetime special about stalking, a new series called SECRET LIVES WITH JANE VELEZ MITCHELL, and a major pop culture event on Sunday June 16: HLN’s live presentation of the 40th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards.

    You are a great and inspiring team. You care deeply about the viewers we serve, the stories we tell and the people we work with every day. Congratulations on the tremendous accomplishments of the past few months, and on the work you’ve done to pave the way for success ahead.

    Thank you,


    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 9:11 am

      the first time i heard ‘nancy grace behind bars’ i was ready to celebrate then realized it was an ad.

      • Family of Law
        05/14/2013 at 10:32 am


      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 10:53 am

        We should only be so lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya know the thing is, she was on DWTS and she was fun and funny. Completely different than on her show, which I refuse to watch!

      • TexiBelle
        05/14/2013 at 5:06 pm

        I actually enjoy her show because she’s such an over-the-top caricature of herself. I’ve always thought that while her passion for justice is real, what you see on tv is more persona than true personality. MMD’s input about her on DWTS just confirms it. And I don’t feel bad for her panel when she screams and calls them idiots, because I know they’re all in on it and understand that’s her show persona.

      • SCK
        05/14/2013 at 6:09 pm

        I personally thought she was as annoying on DWTS as she is on HLN. Their shows are more on the sensationalism side than actual “news”. My husband is constantly asking me “why do they have to scream on that show??” I have no answer — they just ALL scream. I can’t see any reason for letting Beth Karas go except that she hasn’t resorted to the over-dramatic reporting (?) of the others…

    • HJ Madison
      05/14/2013 at 9:24 am

      WOW … where is our Puking emoticon when we need it most. I am so dumb-founded by their congratulatory tone for fully commercializing the horrific murder of Travis Alexander and it’s aftermath. What is next? Oh of course, televised executions, what was I thinking?

      Beth Karas is too classy for these jerks! No wonder she is moving on.

    • SeniorMoments
      05/14/2013 at 11:31 am

      Hard to believe that anything attached to Jane Velez Mitchell,could be called “Secret “! That woman would shout out the word Hush!

      • Beans
        05/14/2013 at 11:47 am

        hah, good one.

    • 05/14/2013 at 12:46 pm

      Ugh. HLN After Dark is completely heinous. I am very disappointed in them.

      • Lisa M
        05/14/2013 at 10:00 pm

        I agree. I don’t know who all these people are that supposedly watch After Dark. I find it completely redundant and unenjoyable

  51. Nienna
    05/14/2013 at 9:19 am

    Anyone got a link for the Christian-Newsom trial?

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 9:23 am

      just wate.com

      • Nienna
        05/14/2013 at 9:24 am


    • 05/14/2013 at 9:24 am

      Posted link below but forgot to click reply..

  52. 05/14/2013 at 9:22 am
    • Nienna
      05/14/2013 at 9:24 am

      Thank you!!

      • 05/14/2013 at 9:25 am

        your welcome

  53. HJ Madison
    05/14/2013 at 9:26 am

    Also http://www.WBIR.com works on the ipad

  54. Wendy
    05/14/2013 at 9:30 am

    Morning folks! Hope everyone is great this morning!!!😉😀

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 9:38 am

      morning wendy, and all others

    • 05/14/2013 at 9:45 am

      good evening Wendy

  55. Beans
    05/14/2013 at 9:34 am

    syn there’s also an article on the arizona abc affiliate site where a reporter tours the max.security area of the facility where stabby would be housed. it’s pretty hardcore and guards are used to her kind.

    • 05/14/2013 at 9:44 am

      dunno if you ever get ‘used’ to her kind.. but let’s hope they all watch those police interrogation videos and the 48 hour doco and get a lesson in Jodi 101.

      • Beans
        05/14/2013 at 9:47 am

        janna posted the link to the article above. it’s abc15.

      • Lisa M
        05/14/2013 at 10:10 pm

        I watched an episode of Lock Up recently that featured this woman who was convicted of killing that guy who won the lottery. I can’t remember his name. She reminded me of a more likable Jodi Arias — she had a kind of jovial personality. But she was manipulative in the same way, trying to set up media interviews and game the system and of course completely denying that she killed the man. Unfortunately in her case, she wasnt very glamorous and interest in her story was waning so she wasn’t able to get much media attention other than from Lock Up. She ended up seeming pretty pathetic. But the people at the jail had her number and they are used to dealing with those like her and those much worse than her. So I have no doubt Jodi will drive them a little but crazy but she won’t represent anything to them they haven’t dealt with or don’t deal with on a regular basis. She’ll be a sociopath among many to them.

  56. ctc111
    05/14/2013 at 9:45 am

    Hey Syn, I’ve been reading on psychopaths, read something about ‘covetous’ psychopaths, think that’s what they are called. Is that current , in terms of Dx, and how ,if, that fits with ‘HER’ ?

    • 05/14/2013 at 9:51 am

      there is, as yet. no dx per se for even psychopath. So to start dissecting them into general categories seems a little premature. The PCL-R is only just being more broadly accepted, overdue mind you.. but still breaking through into general acceptance.

    • 05/14/2013 at 10:08 am

      Further to that:

      My view is.. a psychopath is a psychopath.. and depending on the ways they choose to live .. in order to get their jollies… will depend on the MO they take. I believe they are all capable of all the bandied around ‘types’ it is just their personal choice as to how they use their ‘abilities’. Psychopaths cover the total spectrum of IQs.. the smarter ones may well turn to white collar crime… the less intelligent keep themselves amused in other ways. Jodi uses her sexuality mostly because it suits her to do so.

  57. Janna
    05/14/2013 at 10:23 am

    Syntara :
    psychopathy = evil
    Psychopath by definition is non “human”… devoid of the inner boundaries [conscience] and a full range of human qualities such as compassion and empathy, that make a person “human”. They simply lack any semblance of kindness.
    Read Dr Robert Hare’s “Without Conscience”
    There is no “psychopath + evil” because as limited a definition we have for evil, psychopath = evil as understood by many cultures and religions around the globe.
    There is no such thing as a benevolent psychopath.. however, psychopaths often feign benevolence for personal gain. A “psychopath” who is not “evil” is not a psychopath.

    Thanks for shining your laser beam on this topic Syn. I value your viewpoint. Throughout the twists & turns of this trial I’ve been trying really, really, really hard to understand the Arias Disorder. Looking forward to reading Robert Hare’s book. Please be patient with my primitive knowledge and simplistic formulas (psychopath + evil = ???).

    I always look for your comments when I visit the Donchais sandbox.

    • 05/14/2013 at 10:32 am

      Janna, hopefully after this there will be a whole bunch of ppl who have a broader understanding of a psychopath. It’s not a light subject, but it is a very very important one as are recognising any of the potentially devastating cluster B disorders symptomatology.

      Not to diagnose them per se, but certainly to recognise the potential red flags and pitfalls being around these kinds of ppl can bring.

      • Anonymous
        05/14/2013 at 11:17 am

        Hey, Syn,
        During this trial, and especially after JA gave her post-verdict performance for the cameras, I have wondered why she displays the level of animosity that she does toward Travis’s family. She stabbed him literally but she keeps stabbing his family and twisting the knife figuratively, and it extends to her own family in their absolute disrespect of the Alexanders’ grief. ,.

  58. 05/14/2013 at 10:29 am

    Reading upstairs, I see references to Wobo saying there is video of Travis chasing a 4 yo nude boy among other things. Where was this information found? Was it in the after verdict interview? Tweets? Anyone know?

    • Nienna
      05/14/2013 at 10:30 am

      She said it in the after verdict interview.

      • 05/14/2013 at 10:33 am

        Thank you Nienna and wow! There must have been more of the interview released after I watched the part I watched. Do you have a link to the whole interview?

  59. Janna
    05/14/2013 at 10:46 am

    Bailey good :
    Exactly!!!! And right, what normal person would just randomly do that for no reason? Then have to pay more money to get another one, all because they just decided to destroy it. I wish they questioned her on the stand about that. I’m surprised they let that issue go so quickly.
    I also think during those few weeks she did some “journaling” to prepare for what was coming. The reason I think this, is, because she volunteered her journals to Det. Flores and said they will show I’m innocent. it’s not like he knew she had them. She could have destroyd them too but I think she honestly thought they would help her.
    One thing I question IS, why did she keep all those reciepts? Several of them helped convict her. Is she that stupid to keep them knowing they could be against her? I think her Einstein-ness was on vaca that week lol

    I’ve seen or heard mention of the “receipts” before. Here’s what I’m remembering … One school of thought – business deductions for PPL. Second school of thought – to prove she was NEVER in Arizona (pre-meditation). Third school of thought – trophy memorabilia!

    • 05/14/2013 at 10:56 am

      she kept the receipts to prove she wasn’t anywhere near Travis. It’s why in the interview her mother gave with Det Flores.. her mother said when she asked if Jodi had anything to do with Travis’ death Jodi quickly produced the receipts. Who would do that? It shows exactly why she kept the receipts and why she had the gas cans so there would be no receipts where she didn’t want them.

      As I said previously.. lucky Jodi mother not so smart of Jodi may have destroyed those right there and then if her mother had noticed what Juan noticed. Or even said.. “why do you have these receipts?” Her mother simply didn’t want to know, thankfully.

      Jodi never for a moment expected the receipts where she filled the gas cans to be used against her. OH now with 20/20 hindsight she’d never have done it the same way!!

      That’s why in court she did so much to cover up the effects of the receipts and the gas cans.. so much so she even lied to the jury about them. Soon as she realised Juan had put that together she knew it spelt BIG trouble for her.

  60. 05/14/2013 at 10:48 am

    Family of Law :
    Lol!!!! I did try! (it’s on the previous page re: my unpleasant table-mate) I can only do a Scottish accent! My Aussie sounds like a bad Crocodile Dundee!!! “Shrimp on the barbie…” Not good…

    LMAO!!! I can but imagine! Probably best you didn’t! Hope you kept the drink waiter busy! 😀

  61. ctc111
    05/14/2013 at 10:52 am

    Thanks Syn for your ever valued insight. I look for. and learn something new every time I read you. For me, you have made it much easier to understand , in regards to this trial, how these people operate and why it is so difficult to get away from them, once you are involved .

    • 05/14/2013 at 11:00 am

      that’s the key… stay away and even if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt…. DON’T .. it just isn’t worth it. If someone you meet seems to good to be true… that little bit too perfect… don’t ignore the red flags!

      • janeto
        05/14/2013 at 11:05 am

        Syn- see, I told you LONG ago how much I have learned from you! I’m not alone in everyone feeling the same! My hat is again off to you (as I bow my head) thank you again for putting things into layman’s terms so that we could ALL “get it!” Luv u lady. 🙂

    • Janna
      05/14/2013 at 11:04 am

      DITTO and quadruplicate!

      Syn, Syn, Syn, Syn …….

  62. 05/14/2013 at 11:11 am

    janeto :
    Syn- see, I told you LONG ago how much I have learned from you! I’m not alone in everyone feeling the same! My hat is again off to you (as I bow my head) thank you again for putting things into layman’s terms so that we could ALL “get it!” Luv u lady.

    Janeto.. you are THE one that called the verdict tho!!! First time I’ve caught you since then.. and I remember clearly right after our mock trial and just before we all got the verdict is in.. time to wait for announcement call… YOU said… something like… ” I think they are trying to decide between felony and premeditated”… and you know what.. I reckon you could have been spot on!!! So CONGRATULATIONS ***applause emoticon here***

    • janeto
      05/14/2013 at 11:21 am

      Awe! (As I scoot my feet along the ground like a toddler) thx. It’s not too often I’m right about things, so I thank you for the compliment! I even forgot about that one!

      • 05/14/2013 at 11:23 am

        I need to go find it.. and paste it in.. cos it’s worthy of sooo much kudos.. after all.. it’s what we were ALL here for.. the verdict and sentencing..

    • janeto
      05/14/2013 at 11:31 am


  63. Janna
    05/14/2013 at 11:19 am

    tupelomz :
    Thank you Nienna and wow! There must have been more of the interview released after I watched the part I watched. Do you have a link to the whole interview?

    I LOVE this site. Scroll down a ways to view the FULL interview.


  64. MMD
    05/14/2013 at 11:20 am

    Ya know it really does my heart good and I have to go fullscreen when OJ is brought in with his prison blues and completely shackled. He has 4 deputies surrounding him and a U.S. Marshall that even J.J. Cool wouldn’t go up against. Ain’t life grand!!! 😀

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 11:24 am

      you need fullscreen just to accommodate his head.

    • 05/14/2013 at 11:25 am

      Ive got the George Thomas trial on OJ is on as well? whats he done now?

      • Beans
        05/14/2013 at 11:32 am

        trying to get a retrial due to incompetent counsel.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 10:40 am

      correction – L.L. Cool J. sheesh, I made no sense yesterday at all 😯

  65. Nienna
    05/14/2013 at 11:23 am

    tupelomz… Here’s the most complete one I’ve found. Statement at around 14:50


    • 05/14/2013 at 11:50 am

      Thank you Nienna. I am watching the whole thing during breaks in the Christian/Newsom trial. So far alot on there that I had not watched before.

  66. Janna
    05/14/2013 at 11:35 am

    Way, way, way upstairs in the thirtysomething numbers, I posted a comment yesterday morning about favorite words and phrases I’ve collected throughout the Arias trial.

    Today I’m adding a few more …..




    BOMBSHELL!!! Unleash the lawyers!

    Brazilian wax

    1,000 Places To See Before You Die

    G-U-I-L-T-Y M1

    Travis Victor Alexander

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 11:38 am

      excellent list janna

    • 05/14/2013 at 1:50 pm

      A Juan-ism……. A what were you going to do with the gun?. Throw it?
      Keep growing the list, Janna. I’m sure there’s plenty more.

    • ctc111
      05/14/2013 at 8:40 pm

      Here’s a word for your list. JODIVISION, it’s the only place where SHE can continue to be such a bad actress, any other network and she would be cancelled. OH wait, that’s coming too.

  67. truejustice
    05/14/2013 at 11:37 am

    After watching the arias trial , I had forgotten that it is not standard to have a witness on the stand for a week or more.

  68. 05/14/2013 at 11:42 am

    janeto :
    05/08/2013 at 1:55 pm | #584 Quote
    You know, with all the media circus throwing what they THINK the jury is doing, and if it’s taking longer means that it’s in Jodis’ favorite.

    But to me, maybe they are trying to get past whether it’s 1st degree premed WITH felony or without!!! Who knows????

    This was Janeto’s assessment right BEFORE verdict reached announcement. Definitely best verdict deliberation call… hope she gets as close with the sentencing… Janeto.. you gots a lot to live up to now!!!

    • Janna
      05/14/2013 at 11:56 am

      Chorus of cheers! Kudos! High fives! Clapping of hands! Round of applause for Janeto.

      I’ll be tuned in for your sentencing call.

      • janeto
        05/14/2013 at 11:57 am

        😀 :blush:

    • janeto
      05/14/2013 at 11:56 am

      Wow! I said all that? 😉 ok Syn, my prediction……….. Drum roll…….. Aggravation phase- most definitely GUILTY. SENTENCE—— more drum roll please…………. DEATH PENALTY!! There, I said it!!!!! I predict nothing less from these jurors.

      • 05/14/2013 at 12:01 pm

        Alright then…We will all be waiting to hear….

      • Beans
        05/14/2013 at 12:04 pm

        that’s too easy janeto. how about the jurors, as a group, leap over the railing and throttle on the spot.,

      • Janna
        05/14/2013 at 12:39 pm

        I crave justice. DP = what she deserves.

        Sick, sick, sick. Evil2

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 12:52 pm

        From your lips to the jury’s ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 12:50 pm

      YaYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was there when she said it. May I have your autograph please Jane!!!!! 😀

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 12:53 pm

        correction – Janet 😦 sorry about that

      • janeto
        05/14/2013 at 12:53 pm

        Got a stamp signature just for u MMD. 😆

  69. Beans
    05/14/2013 at 12:04 pm

    oops, ‘throttle her’

  70. Allison
    05/14/2013 at 12:08 pm

    Janna :
    The stolen Travis journals were discussed during the trial.
    Is she evil enough to arrange for some Photoshop pics? Who would help her do that?

    When were the stolen journals discovered??? I only knew about the ones the Hughes had and had to turn over??? Need more info. 🙂

  71. 05/14/2013 at 12:31 pm

    Anonymous :
    Hey, Syn,
    During this trial, and especially after JA gave her post-verdict performance for the cameras, I have wondered why she displays the level of animosity that she does toward Travis’s family. She stabbed him literally but she keeps stabbing his family and twisting the knife figuratively, and it extends to her own family in their absolute disrespect of the Alexanders’ grief. ,.

    The reason for this is in her mind she is still fighting Travis. As she said (paraphrase) “she could not look at his family in court because they remind her of Travis” This is probably true. They appear, like him, to be full of integrity, honesty, compassion, empathy. All the human traits she covets because she does not possess them. All the things he was that rejected her despite her superhuman efforts to keep him.

    In video 5, when she is alone in the cell and Det Flores has left the room she says to seemingly nobody “still beat ya”. This is so telling because in her mind as long as she is being held accountable for killing Travis… she is still fighting him. Of course she is also fighting the church of LDS (in her mind it kept him from her), the Hughes’ (particularly Skye because she saw through Jodi first and endeavoured to keep Travis from her) and of course now his family.

    She wants to destroy him as many ways possible because she is being held accountable. She thought she was going to get away with it. She will punish him forever for daring to escape from that shower and not die how she intended him to. In her mind (and on this she is correct for once) he is responsible for her being caught. She doesn’t see it as her mistake, she sees it as his fault and pay he will for as long as she can make him pay in as many ways as she can make him pay. How dare he be winning?

    Her family… is more complicated. Seeing her mother and father in those interview tapes.. I have to believe the mother, in particular, is in some kind of deep denial. She knew in those tapes, she also knew enough to confront Jodi as soon as she heard of Travis’s death and ask if she had anything to do with it.. which is when Jodi promptly presented the receipts from the gas stations to prove she was not in Arizona therefore nowhere near Travis. Her mother accepted this, probably more because she needed to believe it than truly in her heart being satisfied with the explanation. Surely, somewhere inside her. she must have found it strange that Jodi had receipts at the ready to ‘prove’ she wasn’t there.

    • Kathy A.
      05/14/2013 at 2:33 pm

      Thank you for that explanation (it’s me who asked the question. Don’t know why I showed up as anonymous). Stabitha’s behavior toward Travis’s family, as appalling as it is, makes sense the way you explain it. Her family…I don’t know what goes on outside of court unless it’s reported on but even if her mother or someone else in her family were to at least acknowledge what the Alexanders are going through,it could go a long way toward their healing – and I don’t know that they haven’t, but it sure doesn’t seem like it from their attitudes and behavior.

      • 05/14/2013 at 2:43 pm

        The mother’s behaviour.. while possibly explained by deep denial.. in no way excuses it.

        That woman sickens me. She is in need of serious therapy.. and if she doesn’t get some soon and rouse herself from the pits she has allowed herself to sink, any remnants of decency in her and those around her will evaporate forever. Which will mean the horror of Jodistein widens exponentially. Like that pebble thrown into a still pond.

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 10:19 pm

      I like your explanation Syn. It makes complete sense to me now! I’ve always known Jodi was a psychopath of course but this last interview she did sealed it for me without a doubt. I see the shell; I see the emptiness inside now; I see not just the lack of compassion but the inability to feel compassion. This last interview, as heinous as it was, also for me made me think of her as pathetic- not in a way that I can feel any pity for her though. I think if I could feel pity for her it would mean she has some human characteristics but she doesn’t. There’s no there there, as our President might say. 😌

  72. SeniorMoments
    05/14/2013 at 12:32 pm

    Where is the OJ trial streaming?

  73. Kathy A.
    05/14/2013 at 12:34 pm

    Does anyone know what time court is supposed to start tomorrow?

    • 05/14/2013 at 12:44 pm

      I think…. it’s supposed to be 10… but you know .. even if it’s supposed to be 10..well……… 😛

    • Janna
      05/14/2013 at 1:41 pm

      4pm ET/1pm PT

    • Kathy A.
      05/14/2013 at 2:22 pm

      Got it! Supposed to start at 10 but plan for it to start at 1 p.m. 🙂

  74. MMD
    05/14/2013 at 12:48 pm

    I knew that HLN had gone all tabloid but it looks like CNN is heading down the same path. Sad. 😦


    CNN Covered Arias Trial More In One Day Than the Gosnell Trial In Eight Weeks

    By Matt Hadro | May 14, 2013 | 10:44

    CNN gave more coverage to the Jodi Arias trial in one day than it did to the entire Kermit Gosnell trial over the span of eight weeks. NewsBusters already reported how the congressional hearings on the Benghazi attacks disappeared amidst CNN’s incessant live coverage of tabloid crime stories.

    When the verdict was reached in the Arias trial last Wednesday, CNN’s coverage for the day totaled almost a whopping three hours. In contrast, the network gave just under 100 minutes to the Gosnell story in eight weeks since the trial began on March 18.

    In that time span, host Piers Morgan never mentioned the trial once until Monday night, when he spent just one minute, 48 seconds on the story. CNN’s The Situation Room never reported the trial until it offered just a 27 second news brief Monday afternoon. CNN’s morning show Starting Point never once mentioned the trial, while Early Start took until Tuesday morning to report it.

    Anderson Cooper, who on April 12 noticed that “this story has not received the kind of media attention that one might expect,” didn’t touch the story for another month until Monday night.

    For both the Arias and Gosnell trials, CNN had a correspondent stationed outside the courthouse around the time the verdict was announced. The coverage disparity between the two stories was still quite apparent, though.

    When CNN announced that a verdict had been reached in the Arias trial, at 2:35 p.m. ET on Wednesday, May 8, the network devoted almost two full hours of coverage to the trial in the next two-and-a-half hours, including a full hour of non-stop live coverage of the verdict. Monday’s Gosnell verdict saw only 50 minutes of airtime for the entire day, in contrast.

    And even after the Arias verdict was announced, the network gave over an hour to the story throughout the prime-time hours of 5-11 p.m. ET on May 8. Gosnell exited the news much more quickly, getting just six minutes of coverage during those same hours on Monday.

    Monday’s news cycle did feature other big stories like the IRS investigation of conservative groups and the Justice Department seizing information from the Associated Press. However, last Wednesday CNN flooded its newscast with breaking developments in tabloid crime stories while that day’s congressional hearing on the Benghazi attacks was completely overshadowed.

    • Jay
      05/14/2013 at 1:46 pm

      CNN minimally covered the Gosnell trial because the tail wags the dog in criminal trial coverage. When they broadcast stories they get feedback the next day from the rating services. If there’s a lack of interest in a story they cover it less. In Philadelphia, where the trial took place, there was limited media coverage as well. Anti-abortion conservatives have called that a “Liberal Media Blackout” – to censor negative abortion news from the headlines. And though it’s true the media can whip up interest in some stories, the gruesome charges of fetuses seconds out of the birth canal having spinal cords clipped by scissors while technically alive wasn’t conducive to attract the desired 20 to 50 and 30 to 60 advertising cohorts that brings in sponsor dollars. Aside from a lot of tisk-tisking, the coverage garnered thumb-pressing channel changes from viewers.

      Same’s gonna happen with the Zimmerman trial. HLM will cover it like the Arias trial, but the ratings will be half that. The Arias trial struck a deep chord of interest with a high percentage of women in the desired viewer demographic range. If this blog and other blogs and twitter sites reflect the same percentages, that’s about 85% female viewers. That 30 to 60 age group of women easily identified with Travis, a good looking, charismatic man brutally and unfairly murdered; they loved to hate and loathe arch villain Arias and her smarmy army of experts and sycophants. You won’t see that large demographic interest or emotional response to the victim or the defendant in the Martin-Zimmerman trial. No evil to boo, just an unfortunate series of events that tumbled out of control.

      The other night CNN (meaning Anderson Cooper) did a good job interviewing relatives of one of the kidnapped/enslaved girls. He was respectful and considerate, but still managed to get an interesting interview. If that Castro creep ever goes on trial, that would be interesting to watch, but I’m betting he pleads out and we’ll only see those limited proceedings.

  75. Beans
    05/14/2013 at 12:48 pm

    Syn, earlier when you were talking about intelligent/less intelligent psychos is that what gives us organized/disorganized serials?

    • 05/14/2013 at 12:51 pm

      yep like any section of society.. you have different personality traits and abilities within each typing.

      • janeto
        05/14/2013 at 12:59 pm

        My gosh Syn. YOU need to write a book on your study of WOBO!! You r so good at holding our attention on just her mental side alone!! Hell I would buy it!!

  76. 05/14/2013 at 12:49 pm

    I finally got a chance to watch the CNN special on the Arias trial last night. One thing I don’t remember seeing during the trial was the reaction of Arias’ mom & aunt to her “wooden spoon” accusations. You could just tell by the way they were looking at each other was that the story was total BS. What a piece of work she is. I can’t imagine having to come to terms with the reality of having raised THAT.

  77. MMD
    05/14/2013 at 12:56 pm

    I have no idea how Donchais and ritanita do this. I have 2 livestreams going with the Christian/Newsom trial, 2 more with OJ, have both pages of CFJ open but can’t keep up, CNN keeps popping up with alerts, haven’t checked my from actual people in days, but on a positive note, Season 7 of Dexter was just delivered by UPS!!!! Because of all the trials going on, I’m lending it to someone else and figure I’ll go my marathon in say August :rolls:

    Carry on, just had to get that out of my system 😀

    • 05/14/2013 at 12:58 pm

      lmao!!!! shaking my head 😆

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 1:03 pm

        I know I’ve totally lost my mind – I admit it!!!!! 🙄

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 1:03 pm

      i hear that. i’ve got movies backed up that i dvr’d from Hollywood Suite and full seasons of Treme and Boardwalk Empire to watch.

    • LadyinRed
      05/14/2013 at 11:04 pm

      Wow, MMD, I tried to do one at a time glances just on twitter feed while at work, and couldn’t keep up 😦

  78. 05/14/2013 at 1:04 pm

    janeto :
    My gosh Syn. YOU need to write a book on your study of WOBO!! You r so good at holding our attention on just her mental side alone!! Hell I would buy it!!

    I have so much information in my head what I need are say 50 questions.. then I right a book covering those 50 questions. It’s good to have them from people like yourselves because people in the field won’t ask the same questions or know to ask the same questions as those who are trying to get a handle on it all from scratch. If you know what I mean. That’s why being on here has helped me with my work. You lot have made me think in ways I wouldn’t have normally. It’s energising and fascinating 😀

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 1:11 pm

      In other words you’re using us as guinea pigs???? 😉

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 1:12 pm

      Truly, I’m shocked darlin’, shocked!!!!!!!! 😯

      • 05/14/2013 at 1:14 pm

        nooo quite the opposite.. I’m usig myself as a guinea pig!

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 1:13 pm

      you’re welcome. just spell the names correctly in the credits.

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 1:15 pm


  79. 05/14/2013 at 1:18 pm

    Hey Beans…. Regarding your question disorganised vs organised sans the specific serial killer reference.

    The scene JA left behind was supposed to be organised. But due to the stress that Travis was “getting away” it became an incredibly disorganised scene.

    This is a common result when these types – psychopathic or ASPD – lose control of a situation or in some other way have an additional stressor.. ie time restraint, dog barking, disturbance, unforeseen complication… that kind of thing.

    • Beans
      05/14/2013 at 1:24 pm

      got that. i was so pissed when Heavy D kept trying to use that during closing. ” does that make sense?” he kept asking. yeah, it does. stabby went in with a plan and it blew up on her and she fell apart.

      • 05/14/2013 at 1:26 pm


  80. SeniorMoments
    05/14/2013 at 1:21 pm

    Here we go! Beth is reporting that there is apparently a status hearing in the Arias case. The MS appeared with a change of clothes, all parties (JM, EF, the DF and members of the Alexander Family!)What is Jodi up to now that will delay tomorrow’s session?

    • 05/14/2013 at 1:24 pm

      oh lawwwd!!!!

    • 05/14/2013 at 1:43 pm

      I’m confused–why does JA get to wear street clothes now that she’s convicted? Psssssst, the cat’s out of the bag–she’s GUILTY!

      • truejustice
        05/14/2013 at 2:04 pm

        She gets to wear street clothes so her “look” does not influence the jury. Same as the main part of the trial. If this was not a dp case and she had been found guilty – the judge would be deciding her sentence — and she would be stripes.

      • 05/14/2013 at 3:10 pm

        It just seems odd–after all, that same jury just convicted her of first degree, premeditated murder. The jig is pretty much up about her guilt, I would think and street clothes aren’t going to make her look any better to these jurors. Oh well, I don’t care. Just as long as they found her guilty.

  81. SeniorMoments
    05/14/2013 at 1:29 pm

    Beth reports that Steven and Samantha are the family members present. They are the ones designated to give the VIS, I believe! It makes me fearful that this is going to be the recording of the VIS out of the presence of the jury! I hope this isn’t another case of the judge giving in to the DT/Jodi!

    • 05/14/2013 at 1:31 pm

      but wouldn’t that have to be after the current phase… ? Don’t the statements come at mitigation and this is about cruelty at the moment? ok I’m confuzzled maybe

      • truejustice
        05/14/2013 at 1:50 pm

        Syn is right. The vis are not heard until sentencing phase. However I guess they could record early .. but that seem like it would be unfair – since victims can talk about what sentence they feel is appropriate. The family will not know what sentences she even eligible for until after the aggravation phase.

  82. SeniorMoments
    05/14/2013 at 1:35 pm

    You are right about the timing, Syn. I guess I’m jumping the gun!
    maybe it’s something as simple as a check on Jodi’s “health” since she was in the psyche ward over the weekend, or, hopefully, an order to restrict her speaking to the press while proceedings are still going on.

    • 05/14/2013 at 1:39 pm

      sooo annoying seeing this stuff but not knowing what it’s about! 😈 if you hear anything plse post, thanks 😀

    • Jay
      05/14/2013 at 1:55 pm

      Probably just more ‘pennies in the pot’ to paraphrase Martinez — the DT upping their hourly remunerations with more needless diversions

    • Kathy A.
      05/14/2013 at 3:00 pm

      I can’t remember a trial in recent years where there were so many “Secret Squirrel” meetings in chambers.

  83. 05/14/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Being that this is a closed hearing we will not know what it was about until trial is complete. Right?

    • truejustice
      05/14/2013 at 1:52 pm

      Ya the judge will seal the hearing until after the completion of the trial

      • 05/14/2013 at 1:55 pm

        man, seems like there is going to be a tonne of unsealing going on at trial completion! Inundation of info to be released.

  84. Jay
    05/14/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Wednesday Prognostication:
    During the MEs testimony, in the middle of the most gruesome of the autopsy photographs, Convicted Murderer Arias leaps to her feet, and begins screaming: “Yes, YES. Now I REMEMBER! The fog has lifted! I did that, I did. HORRIBLE HORRIBLE. Please forgive me! MERCY MERCY MERCY!!!”
    She throws herself down on the floor (careful not to mess her hair) in a supplicating posture (watching for jury reaction out of the corner of her eye, from behind eyeglasses amazingly undisturbed).

    • truejustice
      05/14/2013 at 2:06 pm


  85. 05/14/2013 at 2:06 pm

    amazing how quickly the George Thomas retrial moves in comparison to one of the average days during the Jodi Arias sessions and delays.

    • truejustice
      05/14/2013 at 2:06 pm

      right! I have almost forgotten the justice system isn’t always a circus.

      • Beans
        05/14/2013 at 2:34 pm

        this is worse. when you contrast the horrors of the crime to the banality of the criminals combined with the matter of fact way the prosecution lays it all out, it breaks my heart.

  86. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/14/2013 at 2:54 pm

    Okay….sliding in the room on some sand. Caught up. Heard the applause for janeto across the ocean and came running. ClapClapClap. Like “bullshitteries!” and glad to hear of updates on case. I looked at the OJ trial where a lawyer, spent the whole time
    I watched, on the stand, compalining that he never got paid from the OJ lawyer in the first trial. The lawyer also talked of his pal “OJ” and how he liked him and I thought…why? why this? Who gives a hoot. I mean I swear he put it in motion because of wobo. He felt he had to do some prison time for the murders and thought the whole LV thing would clear his conscience but then instead o the 2 years, he got 30! Another Einstein.Switched to the retrial of that moron “Know what I mean Thomas” whose banal acceptance of the excruciating evil around him should be a crime if it isn’t I’m not sure we can judge TN trials by this one–its the 6th timne many have been through it. The murdered girl’s father has been to court 299 days and counting. Talk about obscene. The original Judge in the case has a lot of ‘splainin’ to do to the God of Mercy. Shame on him.

    Anyhow fellow boxers, I will miss Dr, Goodlookin’ since I will be in transit – a trip of 16 hours all day tomorrow. When I arrive on the west coast of America, I will check in and read what ya said and try to catch something on boob tube.

    Have to say, during my retreat, I read a first novel by an author from AZ, whose story-a crime thriuller – takes place in AZ, around the deserts of Tuscon. I mean what a retreat, right? The lead character is a 59 year old woman and former FBI agent, who is married to an ex-Jesuit. The story is 80 percent zoomed on the action and 20 percent consumed with how it affects the marriage. Becky Masterman, the writer, has great feel for the genre. and has a crackling wit that is expressed in some beautifull interior monologues with the main character. Tense with action; alluring opening and great narrative. At one point–in a bar, a bottle of Cabo Wabo is mentioned and, of course, our wobo popped up when I saw it.
    Called “Rage Against the Dying.”

    • 05/14/2013 at 2:59 pm

      OHhhhhhh Robherrrr do have a good trip.. must be time for it.. I’m off to Melbourne next Wednesday for couple of weeks… then possibly onto the UK soon after that.

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 3:07 pm

      Have a safe trip Robert and do check in with us so we know you arrived safely!! Will you then be Robert of Cali/Oregon/WA then??????

      Bon voyage darlin’ – safe trip. {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/14/2013 at 3:10 pm

        tune in tomorrow 🙂

  87. 05/14/2013 at 2:54 pm

    MMD how’s the juggling act going over there???

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 3:09 pm

      I’m watching C/N and want to deck the defendant and his punk-ass young def attorney!!!! They both make me ill. Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe it’s all defense attorneys 😯

      I’ve been posting on the other page.

  88. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/14/2013 at 3:01 pm

    Change of pace: Wanna see an Einstein wobo? Zip to 45 seconds and watch. He aint gonna end up in lockdown, 24 to the 7th day..

    • 05/14/2013 at 3:03 pm

      Robhhherrr… ” watchya talking bout willis” **quizzical look** anit no zippin to 45 secs on a jpg!!!

      • Robert in Rotterdam
        05/14/2013 at 3:05 pm

        Im becoming like KnowwhatImean Thomas.A moron. Maybe this?

    • Robert in Rotterdam
      • 05/14/2013 at 3:09 pm

        O M G

      • 05/14/2013 at 3:11 pm

        A W E S O M E thanks for that!!!!!!!

      • HJ Madison
        05/14/2013 at 3:12 pm

        Robert, does he do just do exponents or can he also do other operations? They math-wiz fellow I mean. BTW, safe travels.

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 3:12 pm

        How come I can’t get any volume????

  89. SeniorMoments
    05/14/2013 at 3:10 pm

    Interesting that Beth mentioned that the Victim’s advocate was with EF, JM, Samantha and Steven Alexander. That’s the first time I have seen mention of her. Beth also said that the highest person in the PR department of the Sheriff’s department and 2 others from there were there, the judge was on the bench but the courtroom was closed. Bits and pieces of information for us to try to figure out, but we won’t really know until everything gets unsealed.
    With the Sheriff’s Dep’t media folks there, perhaps Jodi will get her media contacts cut off.

    • 05/14/2013 at 3:14 pm

      Well considering she has been convicted of first degree murder.. let’s hope so! She stole their moment of glory with that darn after verdict interview. So hope someone puts a stop to it! Thoughts???

      • Lisa M
        05/14/2013 at 6:15 pm

        Syntara, have you seen Mikee D’s latest video about the JA Fox interview? It’s very funny. His daughter sings a song he wrote about it.

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 3:16 pm

      With the amount of LE covering George Thomas and OJ, I cannot get over how lax they are with JA!!!!! Truly!!! I mean, it’s not as if they haven’t seen her handiwork 😯

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 6:50 pm

      I certainly hope so. I bet Juan was all over that interview, especially when the footage of her alleging another pedophilia incident came out. And I have to agree with what some other people were saying a few days ago. Juan will definitely use that interview to show a lack of remorse and her attempt to continue hurting Travis’ family and his reputation. I really hope there’s something that can be done — it never should have happened to begin with, but I hope they can stop her in the future. I am SO glad her family filed a civil suit against her. When you see her pulling crap like this, you realize that she’ll continue milking this case and earning money off of her fame for as long as she can.

  90. 05/14/2013 at 3:15 pm

    MMD :
    How come I can’t get any volume????

    Cos your computer finally crashed from all the juggling?? 😛

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 3:17 pm

      Gawwwwwwwwwwwwwwd knows, I have 3 browsers open and a gazillion tabs in each open as well (insert cross eyed emoticon)

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 3:19 pm

        Finally turned on HLN. It’s been a much less frustrating day without it 😉

      • 05/14/2013 at 3:20 pm

        🙄 and you wonder why you can’t get volume on the 4554536647th tab? 😛

  91. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/14/2013 at 3:20 pm

    HJ Madison :
    Robert, does he do just do exponents or can he also do other operations? They math-wiz fellow I mean. BTW, safe travels.

    I dunno. Could a professor or a super market worker. I’m not even sure what the whole crowd is doing. I mean they didn’t really applaud it till the third time. Rain Man? I loved the sudden switch of focus and concentration.

    • HJ Madison
      05/14/2013 at 3:31 pm

      Definitely a “rain man”. I just wondered if he could do any other math operations like division, or even regular multiplication, if it was strictly exponents. Amazing how a brain can work like that!

  92. Robert in Rotterdam
    05/14/2013 at 3:20 pm

    Syntara :
    and you wonder why you can’t get volume on the 4554536647th tab?

    you beat me to it

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 3:26 pm

      That’s it you guys laugh at me 😯 BTW we missed ya yesterday Robert, glad you let us know your travel plans. See above.

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 3:32 pm

      well I do have volume on all my livestream, although some are muted 🙄

  93. HJ Madison
    05/14/2013 at 3:27 pm

    ~~~~I am going to wildly speculate about today’s hearing for JA. The mitigation person brought clothes for her majesty’s approval for tomorrow — needs to start looking very angelic you know. The judge wanted the sheriff personal there to find out how the interview came about and to order them to follow the “gag” order from now on, especially since they are now charged as Jodi’s keepers. The Victim Advocate was there regarding the motion on videotape impact statements. The judge formerly ruled on the motion – denied. And, she went after everyone and reminded them she wants this thing wrapped up and whether Jodi has a little headache or not, she will be there.~~~~. Now back to more important matters!

    • 05/14/2013 at 3:33 pm

      well HJ… I for one am hoping all you just said is spot on! Would make for a refreshing douse of logic and sanity in this otherwise labyrinth of nonsensical.

    • HJ Madison
      05/14/2013 at 3:34 pm

      “personal” should be personnel.

    • MMD
      05/14/2013 at 3:38 pm

      I want her in her prison striped and shackled!!! 😯 like every other convicted felon!!!

    • NancyB
      05/14/2013 at 9:12 pm

      Great synopsis!

  94. SeniorMoments
    05/14/2013 at 3:34 pm

    I agree completely with you, HJ Madison, and hope we’re both right!

  95. MMD
    05/14/2013 at 3:37 pm


    So nice to see him puffy, fat, older, prison garbed and fully shackled 😀 Love it!!!

    • janeto
      05/14/2013 at 3:58 pm

      MMD, Robert, syn: I love it when you all tangle! It’s so hilarious! Gonna miss u tomorrow Robert. & thanks for the applause! Gotta get back to work all Robert have a safe trip!!! C ya!

      • MMD
        05/14/2013 at 4:00 pm

        Hey Janet – missed seeing ya. I’ve been heavy duty multitasking!!!! How are ya darlin’????? 😀

      • 05/14/2013 at 4:06 pm

        she’s trying to blow up all her puters!

      • janeto
        05/14/2013 at 4:42 pm

        Lol! Doin good darlings, just hard at work 😦

    • ctc111
      05/14/2013 at 8:57 pm

      He also looks like he might have a little cognitive impairment going on as well. anyone notice that?

  96. MMD
    05/14/2013 at 5:01 pm

    Philadelphia DA’s office: Abortion provider agrees to forgo appeal of murder conviction and won’t be sentenced to death.

    To bad JA wouldn’t do the same only just say, put me to death!!!

  97. 05/14/2013 at 7:07 pm

    Hey all. Anybody want to bet Jodi has a migraine tommorrow?

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 7:57 pm

      Beth Karas on HLN just said the judge ordered that Jodi can’t do any more interviews until after the trial is over.

      • SeniorMoments
        05/14/2013 at 8:07 pm

        A little late, but at least it’s done!

      • Lisa M
        05/14/2013 at 9:36 pm

        Yes I agree. Too little too late. But u know what’s even worse? She’s got a bunch of media outlets lined up for interviews. And once the trial is over, the order is lifted and its up to the sheriff again and since, in his own words, he has an open door policy with the media, I’m sure there’ll be more.

      • 05/14/2013 at 11:48 pm

        I know the Sheriff said open door with the media but once she’s sent off to prison under new authority, won’t that dismiss the Sheriff’s rules?

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 9:56 pm

      We’ll see…

  98. Allison
    05/14/2013 at 8:32 pm


    Have you guys watched this – so creative !!!!

    • HJ Madison
      05/14/2013 at 9:25 pm

      Very clever! Hahahahahahahah

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 9:42 pm

      Thanks for sharing that Allison. That was great. I love the last line! And LaViolette’s hair!

  99. Kristy
    05/14/2013 at 8:54 pm

    Juan should play the call Jodi made to the reporter to the jury. Her voice is so different than it was on the stand. Jodi tried to play so low key with her soft little voice on the stand. It was the same chipper voice that Jodi had in her phone call post Travis’s death.

  100. Lisa M
    05/14/2013 at 9:07 pm

    Omg Dr. Drew just called Donovan a guy! And a “he” before he realized she’s a woman.

  101. NancyB
    05/14/2013 at 9:14 pm

    That’s sooo funny Lisa!!!

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 9:33 pm

      Lol. It was so funny because it was a completely innocent mistake. He clearly mistook her for a guy.

  102. 05/14/2013 at 9:21 pm

    Allison :

    Have you guys watched this – so creative !!!!

    Thanks Allison!

  103. 05/14/2013 at 9:23 pm

    I’m watching HLN (I know, i know, but no one else is talking about the trial so I was desperate). Anyways, I’m rewatching videos of her telling the ninja story. I don’t know if this has been discussed before so I’m sorry if it has been. Could some of the events she claims happened with the ninjas actually have some truth to them? By this I mean the description of certain things she said happened ie; TA on all fours, saying he was shot but breathing slowly, TA saying he can’t feel his legs, etc.

    He could have been on all fours and her behind him stabbing down. Who knows, maybe she pulled his head back and slit his throat that way. According to one of the ME, he may have in fact said he couldn’t feel his legs because one of the stab wounds severed something that may have paralyze his legs. When she was describing the ninja scene to Det. Flores she showed she was crouched by the shower, TA in the shower…the exact way the evidence has shown. There were others but these are some examples We know many of the things she says have some truth to it. Does anyone think it’s possible?

    • HJ Madison
      05/14/2013 at 9:27 pm

      Bailey: Yes, yes …. we all have found snippets of truth in just about every lie she told!

    • Kristy
      05/14/2013 at 9:40 pm

      I think Jodi tried to mix in some truth to her lies, and I believe the Ninja story had elements of the stabbing. I think everyone knows the most effective way to lie is to mix in some truths with the lies. I’m sure that’s what Jodi did in her last 2 versions of Travis’s murder. I think she also twisted the role play they had sexually into it all being about Travis being perverted. It seems so obvious to anyone that doesn’t support Jodi.

      • Allison
        05/14/2013 at 9:46 pm

        I have always thought that when she talks about how Travis snuck in to her room on the first encounter to do oral sex with her at a friend’s house – it was REALLY she who snuck into his room and began doing it to him. She was the pursuer (sp), a little truth in her lies or a little twist to her lies.

      • NancyB
        05/14/2013 at 9:49 pm

        very true

    • NancyB
      05/14/2013 at 9:48 pm

      Bailygood, The ME never mentioned anything about JA’s comments to Det Flores during the interrogation video about Travis’ comments about how he can’t feel his legs. But I did a few days ago when I wrote about the depravity and cruelty of what she did to him and how much he suffered before he finally died and was released into God’s arms.

      • 05/14/2013 at 10:48 pm

        .Someone on another board said an ME (not Horn) was on one of the nightly news shows and said the comment jodi made regarding TA saying he couldn’t feel his legs was very possible. He reviewed the places of the stab wounds and on one area there was a great possibility she severed some thing (I forgot the name ) and that it would make his legs paralyzed hence the comment I can’t feel my legs. This is what made me start to put pieces together…

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 9:48 pm

      Omg one of his legs was paralyzed by the stabbing? That is so horrific. I guess we’ll hear a lot of stuff tomorrow from Dr. Horn that will be hard to hear, especially for the family. I have to admit I’m curious if well see the same old arrogant Jodi sketching away or if she will have been humbled at all by her time in the psych ward? Maybe she won’t be allowed pencils now that she’s under close watch. She could hurt herself! That would be one unexpected outcome of her publicity stunt I bet.

    • Kristi
      05/14/2013 at 10:28 pm

      Bailey, yes me too. You know what struck me was when Det Flores was asking her who had the gun and she replied “the other girl…” NO ONE would say that!

  104. CC ...
    05/14/2013 at 9:46 pm

    MMD — glad I am not the only one who thought that statement “I have never killed before” was extremely bizarre — kind of slipped out or something. It is creepy and I think she probably has done something heinous before. Were it not for one palm print she would have skated, I think.. That is just a bit too perfect for a first time, IMHO. Shudder!!!!

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 9:53 pm

      I also thought it was weird in the Inside Edition interview when she said she’d done a lot of shameful things in her life but murdering Travis was not one of them. It made me wonder, ok, what are these terrible things you’ve done? It could also be an effort to cover up the truth. She’s actually such a bad liar. For someone who never stops going it, she really sucks at it. She spews out all this nonsense in an effort to bring attention away from the lie and doesn’t stop to realize how illogical she sounds. Her brain must be a really scary “scrambled” place!

      • Lisa M
        05/14/2013 at 9:54 pm

        I meant doing, not going

      • CC ...
        05/14/2013 at 9:59 pm

        Scrambled indeed. I just saw that snippet from that interview. I am referring to her testifying, though, I believe that’s when she made that statement and it was totally unexpected (to me, at least). Pure evil, this one.

    • Kristy
      05/14/2013 at 10:09 pm

      I got chills when Jodi said that and my first thought was, oh no, I’m betting it wasn’t the first time. Jodi scares the crap outta me. It scares me to think they’d let her live among the general population in a jail. I’d hate to think of what she would impart to felons that will come into society.

      • CC ...
        05/14/2013 at 10:33 pm

        I see a few of us have felt the same thing … yikes!

      • 05/14/2013 at 11:35 pm

        No one would just belt out “I never killed anyone before” as if she was saying she never tried sushi before. It’s a very odd thing to say esp during an interrogation.

  105. NancyB
    05/14/2013 at 9:56 pm

    I’m re-posting this:

    I’m a RN & after working in Trauma Centers/ER’s for decades and 10 yrs in Neuro-Intensive Care I’ve thought about how tortuous Travis’ death was over and over again for months. When I first read the autopsy in Jan. I immediately became persuaded that JA definitely knew “how” to thrust a knife quite savagely. One of the anterior chest thrusts disturbed the costochondral cartilage so severely that the ME cut out the specimen to save for further analysis. That she made so many shallow cuts was initially puzzling to me. For instance, the cluster of stab wounds on Travis’ back were an average of only an inch deep. It appeared to me from this pattern of stabs that she didn’t intend to stab deeply in the back. There is no mention of the knife becoming stuck in the posterior ribs, or damaging the posterior ribs. It appears to me from the AR that these cuts were made at that depth “on purpose”– and not because she inadvertently kept hitting ribs. And they sure don’t look or sound like “hesitation” wounds.

    And so I begin to think more about this, I kept thinking that it’s more than possible that she was taunting and torturing him while he was still very much conscious at the sink and spewing blood from the perforated Superior Vena Cava vein that she transected when she stabbed him in the heart. Intentionally not stabbing too deeply, as opposed to wondering “why won’t you die” and continuing to stab.

    JA definitely knows where the vital organs are in a person. She also has a good idea how deep inside the body they are. I kept wishing that the ME had talked about this more in his testimony– the clusters of shallow wounds, versus the very savage wounds. But perhaps that was felt to be too speculative, since the sheer number of wounds are so savage.

    Then in Juan’s sur sur-rebuttal he spoke about the possibility that JA had already cut the tendon in her ring finger and that stabbing any deeper was painful. That also has the ring of truth.

    Weeks ago when I saw JA’s 7/16/2008 interrogation with Detective Flores and this next part gave me *chills*.
    At one point, Flores asks: What injury did Travis have other than the gunshot?

    JA says:

    TA and JA were about halfway in the hall. There was a little bit of a struggle. The female intruder had a knife – and JA demonstrates it in her left hand (but then says it was in the right) Travis was naked, but JA didn’t care. JA was saying, “c’mon, c’mon”
    Travis said: “But I can’t… I CAN’T FEEL MY LEGS.” (emotionally)

    The last statement made my hair stand up.

    My immediate thought was that TA sustained an injury to something called the “dorsal columns” in the spinal cord just above the midpoint of his back. Then, I reviewed the ME report, and knew that kind of injury could occur with some of the middle back stabs if they penetrated between the vertebrae.

    There is a good medical reason that Travis couldn’t feel his legs – he sustained stab wounds to the center of his back that could have cut the part of the spinal cord (the dorsal columns) that carries the sensory feelings from the legs to the brain.

    Losing feeling in the legs and not also the arms is too highly a specific symptom to just randomly make up. How could she make up the neurologically rare syndrome of not feeling one’s legs with only an 11th grade education, unless it actually happened? But, it is entirely plausible given TA’s stab wounds.

    Two conclusions:

    1. The fact that she stated the medically unique symptom that TA reported (indeed, so unique that she is unlikely to be able to make it up), indicates she remembers a lot more of the knife struggle than she admits and probably remembers every moment of it.

    2. And, I’m so sorry to say this… It helps further demonstrate how tortured TA was during the struggle. TA was conscious, getting weaker, and eventually by the end of the hall where she caught up to him, he could no longer move because of blood loss, but likely also because he had now lost sensory function below the navel. Was this when she stomped on his feet and lower legs, I think so. And, worst of all….he would have been totally aware that all of it was happening and that includes when next she slashed his throat from ear to ear.

    • Lisa M
      05/14/2013 at 11:11 pm

      Omg that was painful to read. Is there any chance that the reason why the knife wounds in the back are shallow is because she was stabbing at him as he was trying to run down the hall and get away from her?
      The picture you paint is so evil of her deliberately torturing him like that. Not that she isn’t evil. Obviously she meant to inflict pain. I just always assumed those back wounds occurred as he was running or trying to run down the hall.
      The thing that’s so sick about all this is that not only did she cruelly murder him, but she continues to try to kill his reputation through her interviews. I think though this need to continue to hurt him shows that she never succeeded in her goal. She’ll never have the satisfaction she thought the murder would give her because her entire life is now defined by this act. Shell never get up from underneath it. Thank God she was found guilty. No matter what she does now she can’t escape the reality of what she did even if she continues to deny it.

    • 05/14/2013 at 11:12 pm

      I’ve been trying to,reply here a few times l
      but am so,overwhelmed and tired. Main points you made are well taken..i see him stabbed in the shower, JA thinking to end it and keep the body there,confined and neat. She lost control of the scene when he stood up, went to sink aspirated,over the basin while watching ER STAB hi,,un the back.,,he tries to stumble away, collapse and she slashes throat. He was still,alive, mind you. He’s dead now, but to clean up she drags him back t shower and rinses him off with any of her DNA as well. IMO eyes are crossing. Please forgive,ve typos and thanks for you educated and perceptive opinion. You’ve always offered so much.
      Good night. Hope,to catch up with you to,or row. ******need droopy eyes emoticon*****

    • 05/14/2013 at 11:56 pm

      This was very interesting and insightful. Thank you for taking the time to share it with all of us. It was def a WOW read!

    • 05/15/2013 at 12:00 am

      Nancy- I wonder if what I read on an HLN message board regarding my first post above was actually taken from your article? If not, and there was an ME discussing this same type of scenerio on tv, kudos to you! Smart chickie 🙂

      • NancyB
        05/15/2013 at 12:42 am

        Hi Bailey! Ohhh I thought you meant Dr Horn- I don’t know if some ME on Tv has said that – very well may have but not the ones I’ve seen. 🙂

  106. Jay
    05/14/2013 at 10:04 pm

    Juror #8 will be on Dr Drew tomorrow

    • CC ...
      05/14/2013 at 10:08 pm

      I just heard that as well. I hope it doesn’t become an appeal issue. I have no idea what would qualify but I kind of wish they would give interviews AFTER the trial/sentencing is over.

      • Jay
        05/14/2013 at 10:52 pm

        Extremely doubtful it could become an appeal issue.
        A) both excused jurors were told by the judge there were no media restrictions for them
        B) Arias has already been found guilty, and the only possible issue to appeal would be the death penalty as opposed to LWOP.
        C) the only applicable dismissed juror error for appeal I’ve heard about was due to a judge’s failure to notify the defense prior to the dismissal. For Juror #8 the defense was in agreement with his dismissal (they probably asked for it).

      • CC ...
        05/14/2013 at 10:57 pm

        Thanks, Jay. I feel better now. 🙂

    • Kristy
      05/14/2013 at 10:14 pm

      That concerns me since the trial isn’t over.

      • CC ...
        05/14/2013 at 10:31 pm

        I agree. I wish he’d reconsider. Sigh.

  107. 05/14/2013 at 10:28 pm

    I thought the Sheriff had Stabby’s twitter account shut down as soon as she was convicted?How does she have the exact account back on again? Plus, Donoman has an account that she’s posting bs about Jodi. Is this legal? I thought all of that is taken away once convicted?

    • CC ...
      05/14/2013 at 10:36 pm

      One would think … It’s the Jodi show and everyone has cowered to her. Cowards, the lot of them.

    • Kristy
      05/14/2013 at 10:56 pm

      Unfortunately, I don’t think they can legally shut it down. The Internet laws are still in their infancy.

    • Jay
      05/14/2013 at 11:16 pm

      Those tweets attributed to Arias may be phony.
      During the time she was under suicide watch the only phone conversation she would have been allowed was with her legal team. No other contact with the outside world – even her mother was turned away if you remember.

      • Kristy
        05/14/2013 at 11:40 pm

        I don’t trust a twitter account of someone that doesn’t post for themselves. I’m not saying that Jodi hasn’t pre-setup stuff and given info, but it can’t be proved that she intended to have that on a twitter with her name.

    • Chrissie A
      05/15/2013 at 1:31 am

      via Maricopa Sheriff ‏
      please keep in mind, inmate arias does not have access to a computer. she has a surrogate tweeter.

  108. Kristy
    05/14/2013 at 11:14 pm

    I know I’ve gone on about Jodi’s cleanly shaven/waxed/laser hooha, but I bet every female on the jury knew shed pre-meditated over that alone. Jodi said Travis wasn’t clean shaven, yet Jodi was. Women know how quick hair grows back from years of shaving ones legs. Smooth hooha s don’t occur without maintenance. A woman with a smooth hooha months after sex has that for a reason. Jodi didn’t share that smooth hooha with Ryan, so she did it for Travis, or herself. I think she used that as part of her lie about Travis being a pedophile. Given her vanity, I bet she had laser, along with her boob job. Guys also know when their chicks shave their legs and how long it takes to grow back. It’s just like when we know guys have shaved. I would bet they shaving was mentioned during deliberations.

    It really is the little things that can’t be explained.

    I’m not saying there weren’t a lot of little things, but they add up. And they did. Thank god.

    Now, we just have to hope that the jury continues on the path to finding Jodi guilty with a DP sentence.

    • Jay
      05/14/2013 at 11:25 pm

      I really Really REALLY would like to see the Dr Drew panel of experts discuss the hooha issue on the show while Arias is still a hot topic, Kristy. I think you should email the producers with a heads up (or is that a hooha’s up?) 😎

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 12:29 am

      Kristi: I am of the opinion she did EVERYTHING in her power to “intrigue” Travis — Mormons I have known are pretty “traditional”, “provincial”, shall we say. She used everything she had to lure him in and no doubt, that shiny hooha, along with all her other “tools”, must have been an amazement! Travis may have talked a big game, but the only woman we know he was intimate with was Deanna, other than the Whore Of Babble On …. My guess, she went to some strip mall salon had her hair dyed brunette to match Mimi and Deanna’s and her usual wax job.

      Now, she thinks that she “intrigues” us. That show last week was merely to gain time to think this out. I say we see a whole new Jodi tomorrow. Pretty new clothes, no craft projects, bright and chipper, followed by sob scenes the likes we have yet to witness. She has 5 years of remorse to make up for! She loves herself too much to risk the DP. She must get LWOP so she can be “exonerated”. I am sure the jury has something else in mind!

      • Kristy
        05/15/2013 at 12:45 am

        I’m not sure she’s allowed to wear regular clothes anymore. She’s now a convicted felon. I could be wrong, but was under the impression that once she was convicted, her status changed in regards to her wardrobe.

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 1:09 am

        Unlike most trials, where the judge just doles out the sentance to the convicted wearing stripes, WOBO still needs to impress her jury. Word is it is civilian duds for the convicted Murderess. Beth Karas saw the Mitigation specialist carrying in clothes today. Seems doubtful they were for today’s closed hearing. My guess, the DT ordered up something more angelic and demure and the wench needed to approve. This judge is not giving the DT an inch for potential reversal, not now! So, as much as we would like her to don her prison duds, she is still making her case before the jury and will likely be looking her best.

    • Jill
      05/15/2013 at 1:02 am

      Hi Kristy, we were all happy that wobo was finally going to have to wear prison garb! but then it was reported that it was at the judge’s discretion, and reports were that the judge was going to allow her to wear regular clothes.
      Hope these reports were wrong, but knowing this judge, she wouldn’t want to offend poor jodi by making her wear something jodi doesn’t like.

  109. Kristy
    05/15/2013 at 1:00 am

    I think a HUGE fail for for Jodi was the short relationship versus her other relationships. Travis never lived with her, nor was she able to establish that he was able to do this all the while living with any roommate that could color orate her story in any way shape or form.

    This seems to emphasize Jodi’s frustration with Travis. He was the one she thought would be the easy one due to his trusting nature, yet he was the one that kept her at arms length. It was a step backwards for her. A guy that she couldn’t control living with her.

  110. Kristi
    05/15/2013 at 1:01 am

    There may not be a legal way to force Twitter to take down Jodi’s accounts, but here are some excerpts from Twitters terms of service:

    8. Restrictions on Content and Use of the Services
    Please review the Twitter Rules (which are part of these Terms) to better understand what is prohibited on the Service. We reserve the right at all times (but will not have an obligation) to remove or refuse to distribute any Content on the Services, to suspend or terminate users, and to reclaim usernames without liability to you. We also reserve the right to access, read, preserve, and disclose any information as we reasonably believe is necessary to (i) satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request, (ii) enforce the Terms, including investigation of potential violations hereof, (iii) detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security or technical issues, (iv) respond to user support requests, or (v) protect the rights, property or safety of Twitter, its users and the public.
    Unlawful Use: You may not use our service for any unlawful purposes or in furtherance of illegal activities. International users agree to comply with all local laws regarding online conduct and acceptable content.

    They have reserved the right to delete any accounts they wish. What if we write to them and ask them to kindly remove any and all Jodi arias and Donoman accounts in the interest of justice and decency. The post soliciting money for Jodi when it is illegal to profit off her crime is using twitter to commit the crime. Slandering the victim is legally and morally wrong. Maybe if they get a few letters, they will consider it.
    Twitter Inc., 1355 Market Street, Suite 900, San Francisco, CA 94103

    Also, we should not assume they already know. I haven’t seen it on Facebook in my friend circle and no one I know knows anything about it…..which is why I’m always here! Maybe it won’t work, but I’m going to shoot off a letter tomorrow for the heck of it.

    • Jill
      05/15/2013 at 1:07 am

      Ok, I will try too kristi, Ty for the info. There is no email we can send it to, is there? And do you have Donoman full name?

      • Kristi
        05/15/2013 at 1:17 am

        I didn’t find an email address, I’m sure they have one. I’m not on Twitter, so many someone who is can give us more info. These days, mail sometimes stands out more so we might want to do that anyway. Donovan Bering.

      • Kristi
        05/15/2013 at 1:18 am

        I meant maybe someone. 🙂

      • Jill
        05/15/2013 at 1:45 am

        You r right. It’s different having a piece of mail in your hand then just another email in the inbox! Ty again, and I hope we can get something started here! It can’t hurt to try!

      • NancyB
        05/15/2013 at 2:06 am

        Donavon Bering – Ex Felon currently on probation

    • NancyB
      05/15/2013 at 2:05 am

      Excellent brain that you have! I love this idea and intend to do this! 🙂

      • Jill
        05/15/2013 at 2:11 am

        Great, Nancy…now when the other peeps on here wake up in their neck of the woods, hopefully, they’ll join in.

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:13 am

      I’m on board with you Kristi! I just bought a new book of stamps…good timing. Lets do it. Justice4Travis.

  111. Janna
    05/15/2013 at 2:57 am

    Brief hearing on Tuesday, closed to the public, records sealed. Sounds like a gag order!

    No more media interviews for Arias per Judge Sherry.


  112. 05/15/2013 at 4:02 am

    I don’t know if this was posted yet.

    PHOENIX – What will life be like for Jodi Arias in a maximum security prison?
    Experts say whether she gets a life sentence or the death penalty, her life behind bars will basically be the same.

    “She is going to spend a lot of time alone,” said Barrett Marson who was the Communications Director for the Department of Corrections for three years before starting his own public relations firm, Marson Media.

    Marson said she will be in the maximum security wing of the Perryville State Prison in the west Valley. Arias will be in a cell that is six feet by eight feet tall with a toilet, shelf and bed. A place she will be by herself 23 hours a day.

    Arias, like the other 132 maximum security female inmates, will be shackled and walked by armed guards to a small fenced-in area for an hour of outdoor activity, six days a week.
    She will eat in her cell alone, three square meals a day with a rotating menu, but will also be able to buy things like candy, chips and soda at the prison canteen. “It’s okay food,” said Marson. “I’ve had it. It’s not going to get a lot of stars, but it will pass.”

    Arias will not be allowed to touch other inmates or visitors and won’t be allowed to use social media sites like Twitter or Facebook. Marson said Arias will be well-known by the prison population by the time she arrives.

    Her connection to the outside world will be a TV, which she can buy from the prison, and a small shoebox-sized window to see outside.

    “These people have nothing to lose so you don’t want to give them any chances,” said Marson.

    Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Jodi-Arias-verdict-What-life-will-be-like-behind-bars-for-Jodi-Arias#ixzz2TLWVPq4u

    • Jay
      05/15/2013 at 9:44 am

      And she won’t even be able to watch her pal Nancy Grace on the TV because there’s no cable access.

  113. 05/15/2013 at 4:06 am


    This is the site for the prison Jodi is going to be housed in. It’s an interesting website. It shows the people on death row, past executions and crimes committed and their last meal menus. Death row rules for inmates and visitors, etc etc.

    • 05/15/2013 at 9:23 am

      Thanks Bailey…very interesting

  114. 05/15/2013 at 8:56 am

    Hey all. Been up all night. Gonna crash for a bit. I’ll check back in when we’re live. I would advise no one gets their hopes up. I’m thinking the monster will pull some bitchcraft and try and prolong everyone’s misery. I’ve never hated anyone this strongly. Total Evil. She needs to shut her lie hole and take it. But she won’t. Her bitchery knows no bounds. And that’s putting it mildly. She’ll prolly take the stage again and expose her true wrath. I have too many predictions. But for now I’ll take a little napsi poodle, some beddy bo Bose any get with you all in a bit.

    • 05/15/2013 at 9:24 am

      Have a good snooze Bubble!

  115. Janna
    05/15/2013 at 10:35 am

    Janna :
    Way, way, way upstairs in the thirtysomething numbers, I posted a comment yesterday morning about favorite words and phrases I’ve collected throughout the Arias trial.
    Today I’m adding a few more …..
    BOMBSHELL!!! Unleash the lawyers!
    Brazilian wax
    1,000 Places To See Before You Die
    G-U-I-L-T-Y M1
    Travis Victor Alexander

    I’m like a squirrel collecting nuts and burying them in different locations instead of keeping them all together in one safe place (perhaps to trick other squirrels from finding them).

    From my personal “stash” of Arias Trial words & phrases ….

    Hottie Biscotti

    Duper’s Delight


    Hoard of screwdriver wielding skateboarders

    Great Seal of the State of Arizona

    Team Travis

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 10:38 am

      keep ’em coming.

    • janeto
      05/15/2013 at 10:42 am

      Lmao!! You keep on truckin Janna! I’m sure we are going to come up with more by the time this joke of a trial ends!!! Keep em from the other squirrels, & you will be set for next winter! 😆

  116. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 10:40 am

    Good Morning everyone! Belated Mother’s Day wishes too.
    I had 3 days of Sunday here! My 3 yr old GD was here 🙂 ahhh 🙂
    Tried to catch up reading here after she was in bed, but each night I was too tired to get through…and mornings sure come early with a 3 yr old in the house.

    • janeto
      05/15/2013 at 10:44 am

      Oh yeah! Happy belated mothers day everyone! I was visiting my sisters this weekend n 4got to tell everyone in my sandbox! 😳 my bad….

    • 05/15/2013 at 10:48 am

      oh great! you saw your GD! 😀

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 10:51 am

      Hi Moon …. lucky you!😃 Those little ones are just the best! No real “Bombshells” (as NG would say and Janna would remind us!😉). Jodi out of the psych ward … Jdge ordered Jodi do no more interviews until after completion of trial.

  117. 05/15/2013 at 10:47 am

    Hiiiii all busy day here.. Judge stephens better get summin’ done today or I’m giving up!

    • Moon
      05/15/2013 at 10:53 am

      YES!!! had been going on 3 weeks, the longest that she and I have ever been apart, we were both so happy for her to be here!

      • 05/15/2013 at 10:55 am

        Hope she didn’t wear you out too much Moon! 😉

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 11:10 am

      me too!

  118. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 10:50 am

    I have hope that she freaks out during today’s proceedings… I so want her zapped… at the very least!

    • 05/15/2013 at 10:58 am

      Moon.. if she got zapped there’d me much pandemonium in the sandbox!!!

  119. 05/15/2013 at 10:54 am

    LisaM caught the Mickee D take you referenced! thanks! He needs to post the words of the song.. maybe he did I was viewing it on itv.. his daughter can sing.. little different to Det Flores’ daughter but equally talented in their own way.

    • Moon
      05/15/2013 at 11:03 am

      is there a link for Mickee’s latest??

      • 05/15/2013 at 11:06 am

        there wasn’t one posted I don’t think… I’ll try source one for you

      • 05/15/2013 at 11:13 am

        Moon – try this

  120. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 10:54 am

    Morning’ all ***********waves************ have a migraine today so I KNOW that I will not make one ounce of sense today but so what else is new 🙄 If I don’t make sense, just pretend that I’m the crazy relative that everyone has 😉

    I just hope that I can stay awake until court in AZ. Not even gonna try and watch Oj or the Christian/Newsom trials today. Does anyone know exactly what time court is supposed to start in AZ today???

    • 05/15/2013 at 10:59 am

      MMD.. go rest!!!! ➡

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 11:40 am

        haven’t even gotten out of bed yet. I’m reading stuff on here but it’s not sinking in 😦 But I do look nifty in my sunglasses, well medicated, kinda green to match one stripe in my flannel nightie. 😀

      • 05/15/2013 at 11:42 am

        lol!!! well I am glad you are in bed! That’s GOOD!!!

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 11:01 am

      Morning MMD ~~~~ glad you got here! Not “exactly” what time of start, but the Judge said 10 am AZ time ….

    • Moon
      05/15/2013 at 11:01 am

      Morning MMD… sorry about the migraine… supposed to start 10am AZ time.
      With the activities around my place I didn’t even remember the other 2 trials. first time in ages my tv actually didn’t even go near HLN!

    • Janna
      05/15/2013 at 11:04 am

      Hey MMD! Sorry to hear about the dang migraine. Janna is sending good karma your direction.

  121. Janna
    05/15/2013 at 10:59 am

    Good morning fellow sandboxers. My heart and thoughts and prayers are with the Travis Alexander family, the jury, and Team Travis on this critical and difficult day of Trial.

    Apologies for possibly posting wrong trial times yesterday. 10am Arizona/Pacific … Noon CST … and 1pm EST is what I’m hearing for today.

    In unity with each of you,

    • 05/15/2013 at 11:04 am

      Janna… ya but it’s supposed to be 10… and as I said on my post… .. yeah right… so perhaps your 1 will be closer anyhow! Let’s hope not.. let’s hope judgey wudgey cracks that darn whip … The Alexander’s deserve some sensibility in this craziness. They have been so very very patient and poised throughout.

      How they do it I have no idea, but they have certainly won a great deal of respect and deservedly so. Now judge needs to do her bit and get this moving to finality.

  122. 05/15/2013 at 11:07 am

    and how long as it been since we’ve seen Mr. Juanderful? Tooooooooooooooo long. Seems like at least a month. What have you done with him MMD?

    • 05/15/2013 at 11:23 am

      TOOOOOOOO long… no wonder MMD has a migraine… she is suffering withdrawals!!!

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 11:36 am

        dontcha know it 😯

  123. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 11:08 am

    morning everyone and good afternoon (i think) to you syn. MMD – bosma’s body was found burned in waterloo if you haven’t heard yet.

    • 05/15/2013 at 11:12 am

      hey Beans 😀 **waves**

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 11:23 am

      My cleaning lady who is here today told me. So sad to hear that!!! I just don’t understand why they just didn’t steal a truck instead of going on Kijiji, making an appt to see it, etc. Truly, truly sad 😦

      • Beans
        05/15/2013 at 11:26 am

        this was the second attempt, the first guy was too big so the cowards backed off and another victim.

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 11:35 am

        I see that they are looking for 2 more suspects and feel he was targeted. Once again, there is a publication ban. I hate when they do that!!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 11:26 am

      I don’t get it… I’m sure if it came down to it most people would give their damn truck away to have their life spared.. well I’d give all my cars away I know that. What a waste.

    • 05/15/2013 at 11:59 am

      Sorry but what are we talking about here?

      • Beans
        05/15/2013 at 5:53 pm

        sorry for the delay, just saw your question – a brutal crime that occurred in Ontario, Can.

  124. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 11:18 am

    *****waving to ev1********
    thanks for that vid link syn!!

  125. 05/15/2013 at 11:22 am

    Not sure who linked to it upstairs.. but did not like the article re the Maricopa (sp?) sheriff’s dept saying they will ‘hook’ Jodistein up with media interviews as soon as the ban is lifted. Hello… excuse me… wtf 😯 ?? she is convicted of first degree murder.. since when do these types get “hooked up” with media at their whim?

    • NancyB
      05/15/2013 at 11:39 am

      Sooo agree. Enough already!

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 11:49 am

      the good news is – the ban will most likely be lifted when the sentencing is done. She will probably have 2 or 3 day max till she is transferred to state intake facility. The state prohibits on-camera inmate interviews except in very – very- very rare cases. We should hear little from her except for her repeated request for appeal/retrial etc . She can also write letters to the media – but as the media goes they will move on to the “next” story.

  126. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 11:38 am

    This was released yesterday:

    Moments ago, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office received an order from the Superior Court of Arizona and Honorable Judge Sherry Stephens that from today, prohibits Sheriff’s Office officials from approaching defendant Jodi Arias for the purposes of media interview requests.

    We will not attempt to contact Arias for purposes of media interviews until that order is lifted by the court.

    Once the court lifts the order, and if inmate Arias agrees to do interviews, all interested media parties will be notified immediately by Sheriff’s PIO via email. Interviews will be conducted thereafter in the order already received.

    Lisa Allen
    MCSO Media Relations Unit

    • 05/15/2013 at 11:41 am

      Nancy.. I love your insight re the stabbings.. but I’m still struggling with a lot of it.

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 11:43 am

      too funny.. Sounds like ja blamed her stupid interview on the sheriffs office. Nothing is ever her fault. Also sounds like her attorneys are trying to save her from her own ego.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 12:17 pm

      Morning Nanc! Good grief, yet another bizarre court order! Oh but thank goodness her “media blitz” will continue at some point… I’m sure the media will be lining up for the Death row interviews! Gross.

  127. 05/15/2013 at 11:38 am

    FOL… you better get here.. I am cooking up a huge batch of popcorn for us! Hope you have brought the necessary beverages!! 😀

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 12:07 pm

      Here I am! Syn, you’re the best! Pass the popcorn, please… 🙂 I’m handing you a TALL glass of blood orange martini! 🍸. If this mini trial ever starts (God knows what the evil one has up her sleeve this morning?) We will need the popcorn and martinis flowing!

      • 05/15/2013 at 12:12 pm

        yeah.. I’ma hoping it does get underway!! and knew I could rely on you to arrive with good spirits 😛

  128. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 11:53 am

    OT – BOMBSHELL – castro’s lawyer says his client, who is not a ‘monster’, will plead not guilty – good luck with that shyster.

  129. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 11:53 am

    MMD :
    I see that they are looking for 2 more suspects and feel he was targeted. Once again, there is a publication ban. I hate when they do that!!!

    MMD: If you are up to it, or Bean, what is a “publication ban”? Is it a complete “media blackout” so nothing at all is reported? (Hope you feel better … 😒 :mrgreen: )

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 11:58 am

      up here, once charges are filed a judge slaps a publication ban on all court proceedings until after the case is decided. not in every case but usually in big ones.

      • Beans
        05/15/2013 at 12:00 pm

        it means journalists are prohibited from reporting anything that takes in court until the end.

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 12:03 pm

        So, is the court open? If there is a trial can anyone attend?

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 12:06 pm

      anyone can attend, just don’t report on it. we also never reveal juror identities and they are prohibited from ever discussing a case.

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 12:16 pm

        WOW! Restrictions like that would drive me crazy! Are trials ever televised so you have a sense of the process?

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 12:29 pm

      trials aren’t televised. it’s not as restrictive as it seems. the pub. ban is to keep potential jurors from having prior knowledge of important details and the restrictions on them keeps them from being hassled, threatened or influenced by potential financial gain.

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 12:41 pm

        Remember during the Karla Homolka/Paul Bernardo trial Beans,(your basic serial killers) and there was a publication ban but a lot of reporters came to the trial from Buffalo. As a result we would get the news from there as our U.S. network cable channels (I lived outside TO like Beans) came from there.

  130. 05/15/2013 at 11:57 am

    Evil lurks in all we know,
    But rarely does its true face show.
    With horror we sit and watch it goad
    And cringe when others abide it mode

  131. Jay
    05/15/2013 at 12:04 pm

    Sentencing Reality:

    While the descriptions above of death row incarceration are accurate, the intimation that LWOP conditions are just as austere are misleading.

    In Arizona “even serious sex offenders, and those convicted of first-degree murder are eligible — with good behavior — to attain a Level 3 (medium custody) classification” for the job assignments all inmates are required to do by Arizona law.

    At Perryville Prison where female lifers are incarcerated, all able-bodied inmate workers are employed in a variety of jobs required to keep the facility functioning. They are paid for these institutional jobs between 10 cents and 50 cents an hour, the money goes into their own prison funds for purchasing items in the commissary, etc. It’s mostly menial work, in the kitchen, mopping up floors, grounds keeping, etc.

    From my understanding (it may be wrong as I’ve pieced it together from various internet sources) if Arias get LWOP she’s initially under Level 1 (maximum custody) and then an evaluation process goes on to determine if she’s a danger to herself or others. Almost all female LWOP prisoners make the transition to Level 2, which increases visitation hours per month, and more interaction with the prison population. That means for a good portion of the day Arias will be out in the general population, mingling with others.

    Plus, all prisoners — including those on death row — are entitled to receive mail, and yes, even FED-EX packages (tho all such correspondence is opened, and only passed on if found to be “innocuous” — whatever that means).

    Further, there are numerous law suits in progress, at State and Federal levels, challenging the constitutionality of many LWOP restrictions, and ten or twenty years down the road who knows what that will mean for corrective punishment for killers like Arias…

    • NancyB
      05/15/2013 at 12:29 pm

      Very true – thanks for posting this.

  132. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 12:12 pm

    MMD :
    Morning’ all ***********waves************ have a migraine today so I KNOW that I will not make one ounce of sense today but so what else is new If I don’t make sense, just pretend that I’m the crazy relative that everyone has
    I just hope that I can stay awake until court in AZ. Not even gonna try and watch Oj or the Christian/Newsom trials today. Does anyone know exactly what time court is supposed to start in AZ today???

    MMD- Sorry about your migraine…. I hope your medicine and sunglasses do the trick and it leaves you alone, SOON! Get some rest, and cuddle up with your babies- 🙂

  133. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 12:12 pm

    Dr Horn Rocks

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 12:21 pm

      You rock for giving us a scruffy Dr. Horn 😍 I love the big swack sound at the end.

  134. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 12:14 pm

    JA is back to tweeting today I see. Not happy with HLN at all LOL Guess her pr firm is working overtime because her followers have jumped from around 60 to close to 2,000, nowhere close to what she had before. Her star is starting to fade and it’s about time! 😀

    Jodi Arias ‏@jodiann_arias 57m

    Safe to assume @HLNTV picks and chooses my tweets to report. I’ve had several communications via twitter. http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/05/14/jodi-arias-twitter-verdict-donation-fraud

    Jodi Arias Jodi Arias ‏@jodiann_arias 5h

    The disGRACEful station that broadcasts NG, @HLNTV are the ones twisting my truths, turning people into hateful judgmental individuals.

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 12:20 pm

      stabby doesn’t sound very charitable towards all of us considering she is such a spiritual young lady.

  135. 05/15/2013 at 12:21 pm

    If you have a Jodistein, remove your doggy doors,
    She’ll use them all to lurk and spy, to plot to settle scores.
    Don’t even have a christmas tree or you will find her there,
    Hidden behind the tinselled brush, with mistletoe in her hair.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 12:32 pm

      And don’t let them play with cameras and Helio phones! (laughing at the image of her disheveled with tinsel and mistletoe tangled in her hair!)

  136. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 12:23 pm

    I swear … this is the first time ever the guy (OJ) has actually taken the stand …. true?

  137. 05/15/2013 at 12:26 pm

    I think he had to take the stand in the civil suit where he was found guilty.

  138. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 12:27 pm

    Maricopa county Supreme Court . Attn. Judge Stephens: Assure the Alexander family give impact statem

  139. 05/15/2013 at 12:29 pm

    Taking opinions… .. who thinks :

    1.we will get underway on time?
    2. We won’t get underway at all?
    3. We will get underway late… and plse offer a time?

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 12:31 pm

      #3 …. 10:49 am AZ time

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 12:33 pm

      No. 3 – 40 minutes.

    • 05/15/2013 at 12:35 pm

      #3 maybe by 10:25 az time

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 12:36 pm

      3 – 10:57

    • 05/15/2013 at 12:38 pm

      Well I hope you are all right.. because I envisioned a much later start.. so I luv you ALL for giving me optimism!!! Thank you!!!!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 12:39 pm

      #3. After a looooong in chambers delay… 11:10 AZ time.

      Adding to Syn’s poll: Opinions on what JA’s demeanor will be….

      1. Head down, hair in face?
      2. Head up, arrogant and defiant?
      3. Fake tears, trying to look pathetic?

      • Beans
        05/15/2013 at 12:42 pm

        all 3 at various times – she’s changeling.

      • Family of Law
        05/15/2013 at 12:44 pm

        Great point Beans!

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 12:47 pm

        I say … an all new and improved Jodi! A new outfit, that makes her look super sweet, attentive at all times, considerable sobbing (when kicked under the table as a reminder and to inflict enough pain to cause realistic tears by Boobs Alot). She has 5 years of remorse to demonstrate today! She has to get LWOP and she knows it!

      • Beans
        05/15/2013 at 12:48 pm

        rat’s – she’s a changeling. (my keyboard crapped out last – using on screen one – hence all the typos)

      • truejustice
        05/15/2013 at 12:49 pm

        That’s a tough one.
        Shifting between 2 and 3.
        2 when taking about chain of events etc
        3 when pictures shown of Travis

  140. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 12:29 pm

    Thank you all for your kind well wishes about my migraine. They are all appreciated. I wasn’t looking for that, I was just trying to explain why I may not make an ounce of sense today!!! I also wanted to make the point for most people, if they can get their meds in early enough, you pull up your big girl underwear and do what has to be done, especially if you are literally fighting for your life!!!! That’s just one of the gazillion reasons that I hate JA. Anybody who truly gets migraines knows when someone is faking it, especially if she is on Imitrex plus pain meds!!!!

    Catch it in time, you can still function if necessary. If you don’t, then the only thing you can do is sleep it off and/or go to the hospital and get a shot.

    • NancyB
      05/15/2013 at 12:31 pm

      Heart you MMD!!!!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 12:36 pm

      MMD.. to be honest with you.. I don’t even think JA has ever had a migraine in her life.. which to me makes it even worse. I could be wrong.. and just completely lacking in belief of a word that thing utters… but I truly doubt it.

      As for you.. I don’t doubt for a second how much you suffer with them. As with all the false claims of that thing who shall remain nameless…. she undermines the real sufferers with her multitude of fabricated maladies and abuses.

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 12:43 pm

        You said it Syn! And MMD I appreciate your candor on the topic. Feel better! And have a little Häagen-Dazs!

  141. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 12:30 pm


  142. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 12:31 pm

    Syn, 10:35

  143. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 12:32 pm

    Damn, I see OJ is going to be on the stand today. I certainly hope that someone puts it on YouTube although he doesn’t draw the crowd like he used to. 😉

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 12:37 pm

      i already have more than my share of crazy relatives MMD, need you well – so l’m sending positive mojo your way.

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 12:45 pm

        TY darlin’ 🙂

        For those of you discussing our publication bans see the comment I just posted above, currently #459. Beans will know the trial I’m referring to.

  144. 05/15/2013 at 12:44 pm

    Family of Law :
    #3. After a looooong in chambers delay… 11:10 AZ time.
    Adding to Syn’s poll: Opinions on what JA’s demeanor will be….
    1. Head down, hair in face?
    2. Head up, arrogant and defiant?
    3. Fake tears, trying to look pathetic?

    Autopsy time… I’m going for return of Cousin It.
    Followed by back to the usual court look whatever that is supposed to portray still not sure what that is… whatever it is.. she doesn’t pull it off beyond looking like I wanna stick those little pencils in her eyes!!! Sketching return to “soothe” her mind during Dr Horn’s testimony.

    hahah I think I covered it all… so short answer.. all of the above! 😛

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 12:56 pm

      Hahaha!!! Syn, it’s your CAT🐱, NOT you, who wants to stab stabbie with her itty bitty, teeny weeny pencils!!!!

      • 05/15/2013 at 12:57 pm

        I know!!! she told me not to keep blaming her! 😛

  145. Jay
    05/15/2013 at 12:48 pm

    Does the figure third from the left look vaguely familiar?


    (Oh don’t you know)
    that’s the sound of …
    working on the chain gang

    A handsome group…

  146. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 12:51 pm

    MMD :
    Remember during the Karla Homolka/Paul Bernardo trial Beans,(your basic serial killers) and there was a publication ban but a lot of reporters came to the trial from Buffalo. As a result we would get the news from there as our U.S. network cable channels (I lived outside TO like Beans) came from there.

    I know that one … she is out now, right? Living in Montreal? So, how did you and other Canucks feel about the Buffalo reporters?

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 1:05 pm

      for me, conflicted. wanted to know – didn’t want to know. yeah, she’s out. she received a very sweet deal in exchange for her testimony. he’s locked up forever. we don’t have ‘true’ life sentences. most lifers have chance for parole. to keep the real bad ones inside they are deemed ‘dangerous offenders’ and can be kept inside ’til they die – serials, child killer/molesters.

  147. Jay
    05/15/2013 at 12:52 pm

    The Seal is up

  148. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 1:00 pm

    Jenkasauras just said JA will be in jail stripes today. I’m not convinced that her atty’s didn’t get “special” permission from Judge Sherry for her to wear street clothes again.

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 1:03 pm

      It possible.. but seems that would be highly prejudicial in front of a jury ??
      Hmmm — will be interesting to find out

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 1:04 pm

      I thought it was reported that clothing had been delivered to the Estrella jail? She SHOULD be made to wear stripes, like every other convicted felon… But the rules go out the window for her time, and time again!

      • truejustice
        05/15/2013 at 1:06 pm

        They only have the convicted wear stripes when they are being sentenced by a judge. Having them stripes is deemed too prejudicial to a jury.

      • truejustice
        05/15/2013 at 1:07 pm

        had to look that one up.. confusing !

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 1:07 pm

      I have been listening to Christian/Newsom and OJ. Have we seen Beth at all yet? Jenkasaurus is full of JUNKasauris! This is not your typical sentancing hearing. And Judge Sherry will force Jodi into street clothes to prevent reversal, even if she has to dress Jodi herself!! IMHO.

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 1:15 pm

      key words here ‘ jinkasaurus says’

  149. 05/15/2013 at 1:00 pm

    For those of you that may be interested, there is a petition(s) on change.org to retain Beth Karas.

  150. 05/15/2013 at 1:01 pm

    Any information from court tweets???

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 1:02 pm

      looks like people still getting situated

  151. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:04 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Doubtful we will get started on time, people are still getting situated in here. Nice to see my AZ court family again. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    I am much slower without the knooter, wow. Took me about an hour to cross the street. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Travis’ family is filing in now. Donavan also just arrived. Beth has a salmon dress on, very nice. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Give me a sec to get all settled in. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    In the courtroom without knooter. Nurmi is here in dark gray suit and green shirt. Willmot and Juan are here too but they left.

  152. Allison
    05/15/2013 at 1:05 pm

    any one here see anything going on in the courtroom??? we usually get a fashion report and all.

    • Allison
      05/15/2013 at 1:10 pm

      OOPs – I needed to refresh – sorry

  153. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:05 pm

    Chris Williams@chriswnews

    #JodiArias mother and friends now in front row behind defense as #Arias walks in.

  154. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:06 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    I thought #JodiArias would be shackled and in jail outfit but she is not. Nurmi is fully reclinated. Still waiting on Judge and jury.

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Juan is here in a dark gray suit with red and black striped tie from what I can see. #JodiArias is here with a creamy long sleeved top

    Looks like it will be starting any minute.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:07 pm

      and ya know my colours are red, black and white 😀

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 1:10 pm

        Did you pick out his clothes today?

  155. Dewey
    05/15/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Good afternoon everyone…Good thing I checked in here today, I thought it started 1:00 AZ time, 4:00 my time, I would’ve missed the whole thing! I hope she doesn’t have the audacity to cry in court today after that stunt she pulled last week.

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:09 pm

      hi Dewey **waves** nice to see ya

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:10 pm

      Hiya Dewey – now ya know that the fake crying is gonna come today, especially with the autopsy photos. 🙄

  156. 05/15/2013 at 1:08 pm

    hey… I have a question.. where did Bryan Carr disappear to.. it’s been all Donoman since he gave that interview…. has he been sighted.. and could he be the one Jodi referred to as “no longer being able to trust”? (paraphrased)

  157. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:08 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    #JodiArias has bangs that are mostly swept to the right. She is speaking with the DP Mitigation Specialist who has on black suit

    Wonder if the boobage is showing today 😉

  158. Jay
    05/15/2013 at 1:10 pm

    HJ Madison :
    I say … an all new and improved Jodi! A new outfit, that makes her look super sweet, attentive at all times, considerable sobbing (when kicked under the table as a reminder and to inflict enough pain to cause realistic tears by Boobs Alot). She has 5 years of remorse to demonstrate today! She has to get LWOP and she knows it!

    A subtle change today, HJ — No drawing or notes. More somber expression. Maybe hair neatly pulled back. Bigger change during the mitigation phase if the jury finds cruelty… Bet she testifies on her own behalf (a compulsion). She’ll give her OSCAR performance (Overly Stupid Character Assignation Rebuked): “Forgive me Travis!” (fists punched against her chest). “I love love love you! (honking sobs). The DEVIL made me do it!” (imploring encompassing arm and hand extension to the jury)

  159. 05/15/2013 at 1:10 pm


  160. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:10 pm

    And away we go.

  161. jad
    05/15/2013 at 1:12 pm

    The trauma to the extremities of the body has always bothered me. From all appearances, it looks as though Travis Alexander was tortured or beaten before he stepped into that shower, in the late afternoon of June 4, 2008. Just examine the images of Mr. Alexander sitting in the shower. It looks like he collapsed, and he appears to have fallen in a way where his right leg crossed over his left leg. That would seem as though his ankles were bound, although this has not yet been established. Regardless, what has been established (and is indisputable) is exactly that which has been reported in the Autopsy Report.

    The Medical Examiner, Kevin Horn, prepared an eight page Autopsy Report for case number 08-03532. On page 2 [of 8], under Pathologic Diagnosis, Section III (titled Blunt Force Trauma) lists for A. “Abrasions and contusions of extremities”. On page 4 [of 8], under Blunt Force Injuries, there are four specific mentions listed for the paragraph that reads as “In addition to the injuries described above, the following blunt force injuries are observed”. These four are [in order as listed] 1.) “A 1/4 inch abrasion of the proximal volar right forearm” 2.) “Two (2) blue-purple contusions of the right lower leg and knee” 3.) “Two (2) abraded lacerations of the lower lateral left heel and ankle” 4.) “A (2) inch blue-purple contusion of the medial malleolus of the left ankle.

    These contusions that have been reported are clearly visible in the photo of Mr. Alexander seated in the shower stall (after an apparent collapse). Bruising is clearly visible on the upper thigh of the right leg. The inner part of the calf of the left leg (along the left side of the photo) exhibits bruising also. Although the chest area is deep reddish, there was no report in the Autopsy Report. So, this reddish hue might just be shadow (although there could be injury). Someone more experienced with photography would have to make the call on that. While determining exactly what is on the chest area, a person with expertise in this area could also look at the reddish line that seems to encircle the body above the leg and hips (that extends to behind the back). It looks like a rope burn. Again, this could be mere shadow and easily explained. However, this rope-like burn is quite clear and should be addressed.

    Contained in http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/tabularasa6/media/ja47_zpsda0f592d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=262 is an image that is a sideways view from the right of the frontal area of the torso. The chest is almost [not quite fully] exposed, and the arms can not be seen [except for the slightest detail above the right breast]. Another detail is the right leg has been crossed above the knee of the left leg. This would be a very uncomfortable position [that makes me wonder if the ankles had been bound or the legs had serious trauma]. Bruising is distinctly visible on the upper outside thigh area of the right leg, and blotching [from blunt force trauma] can be seen above the right knee. The torso of Mr. Alexander is shown – seated in the shower in another photo. This is a more constricted view of the previous shower photo. The chest area can not be seen in this photo (although the banding [from what might be a rope burn] can still be seen around the top of the hips). The legs do not seem to be as crossed over, although there should be no difference in the location of the legs, as these images are from the same photo ([snapped at 05:30:30, which image has been admitted as Exhibit # 160). As with the previous image, the bruises on the calf are very prominent [and there is better lighting] in this particular image. The link is http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/tabularasa6/media/ja46_zps0ad2c1b5.jpg.html?sort=3&o=263

    This particular image would be one that could be put alongside the role played by Kathy Bates in Misery. In that film, the character Annie Wilkes, used blows from a sledge hammer (against the area around the ankles) to keep her victim [Paul Sheldon portrayed by James Caan] immobile. Additionally, (in a real life case) the victim who suffered multiple trauma inflicted by the monster [Charles Rathbun] in that case [from California] had similar injuries to the ankles that had been bound (so that this monster could sodomize his victim with his pistol BEFORE committing a gruesome murder). There are more examples that could be given to demonstrate the breakage of the skin around the ankles appears to be more than slippage from days of death [in a humid shower stall]. More bruising on both legs can be seen too, at http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/tabularasa6/media/tr40_zpsd312b251.jpg.html?sort=3&o=319

    On this site, one can instantly see that the heavy bruising to the legs and the top of the feet are readily apparent at http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/tabularasa6/media/tr41_zps3380d5ee.jpg.html?sort=3&o=318 The question is whether or not these injuries and this blunt force trauma was suffered prior to confinement in the shower stall (when the perpetrator would have been able to taunt and torment her prey). The first two photos reveal enough injury that can be described as blunt force trauma. Thus, Jodi Arias should be sentenced to death for the torture of her victim.

    • Jay
      05/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

      If there was even the remotest possibility of that kind of torture having happened, don’t you think the ME would have informed Martinez, or conversely if it appeared to Martinez to have happened wouldn’t he have queried the ME about it, and if confirmed then have introduced it as evidence?

      Also “blunt force trauma” on autopsy reports include commonplace abrasions or contusions, of the kind people get during robust sexual intercourse.

  162. truejustice
    05/15/2013 at 1:12 pm

    only 8 minutes late .. is this a record ?

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:12 pm

      Think so :shocked:

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 1:15 pm


  163. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:12 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Marlboro man has a nice salmon shirt on. Another bailiff is being sworn in. We are beginning the agravation phase now

  164. 05/15/2013 at 1:12 pm

    Jodes scribbling already as I suspected!

  165. 05/15/2013 at 1:12 pm

    Wobo scribbling…. hair down in face of course…. ugh

  166. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 1:13 pm

    Hi everybody!
    I’m back!!
    OMG look at her new bangs!!
    And she’s still writing!!!!!!!!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:15 pm

      OMG I swear less than 10 mins ago I was thinking.. where the heck has Marilyn disappeared to! and voila.. here be u!

      • Marilyn N
        05/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

        Yes, I was in Arizona for a week!
        Saw the verdict LIVE at the hotel, then they postponed this phase just for me to get back home! How about that!!!

      • 05/15/2013 at 1:18 pm

        perfect!!!! and we all suffered just 4 you! 😛

  167. 05/15/2013 at 1:13 pm


    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:15 pm

      looking good isn’t he 😀

      • 05/15/2013 at 1:16 pm

        looks like you had him getting some sun girlie! 😀

  168. SeniorMoments
    05/15/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Already with the note writing!

  169. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Innocent cream blouse, nice touch!

  170. 05/15/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Herro everybody!

  171. truejustice
    05/15/2013 at 1:14 pm

    ta brother looks highly aggravated today.

  172. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:14 pm

    Nice shot of my man!!! 😀

  173. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:15 pm

    OMG … playing hang man with Wilnot! And new bangs.

  174. 05/15/2013 at 1:15 pm

    Did she cut her own bangs in psych ward?? looks like it 😀

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

      so much for keeping her away from sharp objects!!! 😦 FAIL!!!!! It’s not like they haven’t seen her handiwork!!! Geesh!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

      Hahaha! She probably wore them away when banging her head against the wall!

      • 05/15/2013 at 1:19 pm

        They do look kinda ragged.

  175. 05/15/2013 at 1:16 pm

    anyone seen nurmi?

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

      no thank god!! 😀

      • 05/15/2013 at 1:18 pm

        Think he got himself removed?

      • 05/15/2013 at 1:20 pm

        maybe he is hiding under the desk… nah.. impossible.. silly me!

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 1:19 pm


    • Marilyn N
      05/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

      He’s in a puke green!!

  176. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:17 pm

    Yep .. reclinating and snarling at WOBO

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:21 pm


  177. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:18 pm

    JA has lost weight.

  178. 05/15/2013 at 1:19 pm

    hair hanging free.. ready for Cousin It I’m guessing

  179. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:19 pm

    What happens to JA’s scribble books when’s she goes to prison? I’d LOVE to read them!!!!!

  180. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:21 pm

    bubblebutts :
    Think he got himself removed?

    Bubble — he is there.

  181. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 1:21 pm

    yes. let’s go juan!

  182. 05/15/2013 at 1:21 pm

    What’s Stabby Einstein scribbling now?

  183. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:21 pm

    JM taking deep breaths. I told him to do that 😀

  184. 05/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Uh oh, Jodi’s nose getting red

  185. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

    Here it comes … the phony tears … Oh F*K Really? Sidebar?

  186. 05/15/2013 at 1:22 pm

    FAKE waterworks being summoned!!!

  187. 05/15/2013 at 1:23 pm

    Here we go…sit down, Nurmi.

  188. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 1:23 pm

    well, it didn’t take heavy d long to de-reclinate.

  189. 05/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    omfg *face palms* sidebar fest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  190. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    Oh, good grief! Nothing new is being introduced here!

  191. Wendy
    05/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    Trying to work up some tears!

  192. SeniorMoments
    05/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    It’s going to be a “teary” day for Jodi! JM has barely started and the lips are quivering!

  193. 05/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    Wormi trying to delay the certain. Its coming Wormi so just sit down and shut the F up!

  194. 05/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    waterworks alert….. trying REALLY hard to get some happening

  195. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:24 pm

    AND ANOTHER SIDEBAR! Going to be a long day … and I actually thought Nurmi would be glad to see WOBO go far, far away!

  196. 05/15/2013 at 1:25 pm

    suicide…. ooo it hurts so baaaad

  197. 05/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

    Stabby does have a real talent, though. How in the world does she make her nose turn red without tears?!?

  198. WhereIsSHE
    05/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

    It is sheer BRILLIANCE for Juan to bring up Jodi’s ALLEGED suicide attempt right now.
    No way, no how is or was this convicted defendant EVER truly suicidal.
    An ALLEGED tiny cut was too much PAIN for HER.
    But LOOK at what she did to TRAVIS.

  199. 05/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

    not only when it went in…. after it went in too!!!!!

  200. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:26 pm

    Yeah Juan!!! And shut the fu*k up Wurm!!!

  201. 05/15/2013 at 1:27 pm

    she sure did JUan.. you tell em!!!!!

  202. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:27 pm

    During the OJ hearing yesterday the one thing that the attorney Grasso said was that nothing pisses off the jurors than being a jack in the box with constant objections. Obviously Wurmi doesn’t know this or doesn’t care. 👿

  203. 05/15/2013 at 1:28 pm

    omg omg omg samantha!!!!!!!!!

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 1:35 pm

      She just doesn’t look like she is going make through this today. God give her the strength.

  204. 05/15/2013 at 1:28 pm

    Her scribble books are all lies too. I just want her to go away, and never hear a peep about her till deathday. She disgusts me so. Watch her shake her head, then watch Travis’ brother and sister…

  205. 05/15/2013 at 1:30 pm

    Nurmi is really getting tiresome and it’s been 10 minutes. Constant objecting is not a good tactic, wurm.

  206. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:30 pm

    She’s trying hard to squeeze out a tear, but can’t quite do it!!! 🙄

  207. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:30 pm

    OMG, the pain on the faces of Travis’s siblings, Sky, etc… It’s too heartbreaking! OMG!!!

  208. 05/15/2013 at 1:30 pm

    Wormi is trying to lessen the effects of Mr JM’s words with all these side bars.

  209. 05/15/2013 at 1:31 pm

    as if Jodistein.. why the heck you crying now when you didn’t care about what you did before and you sat through worse.. oh yeah right.. I remember… now it’s about you so better grab those tissues. Cos now it’s YOUR life.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:33 pm

      Yeah but remember Syn she WANTS to die 😆 so it shouldn’t bother her 😉

      • 05/15/2013 at 1:35 pm


    • 05/15/2013 at 4:16 pm

      Syn~~good day. Are the tears because she thinks that is what she is supposed to do?? To little to late don’t ya think? Jury did not buy it before what makes her think they will buy it now!!!

      • 05/15/2013 at 4:19 pm

        I dunno.. I doubt they are tears.. I think as usual, it’s all her getting off on acting a part. I doubt the jury would be buying it.. and hello btw you have been MIA for ages!!! hope you are well 😀

  210. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 1:31 pm

    Come on Judge! Tell Nurmi to STFU! Nurmi’s objections are baseless!!!

  211. 05/15/2013 at 1:32 pm

    “He’s got this pain in his heart” and Jodi shakes her head

  212. 05/15/2013 at 1:34 pm

    she still can’t cry… she’s gonna have to do cousin it … and she’s shaking her head.. how does she explain the wounds.. oh yeah she forgot… yet she is shaking her head? why??? if she forgot how come she knows enough to shake her head?? do tell Jodistein.. and why the heck didn’t that Troy idiot ask her some questions like that? They are the ones we want answers to!!!!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 1:37 pm

      You said it! Shaking her head, “no, no, you got the order wrong Juan”! Yea, really Stabbie? Thought you were in a FOG!!!!

  213. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:34 pm

    Judge Steven needs to admonish Wurm for all of his “calls for speculation” objections! Of course Travis saw her behind him in the mirror! And was TERRIFIED!!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:36 pm

      he had blood pouring out of him.. and was naked and defenseless.. how could he be anything BUT terrified????

  214. 05/15/2013 at 1:34 pm

    How the fluck can she shake her head, like “that’s not true, he didn’t see me in the mirror”

  215. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:36 pm

    That poor family. Today is gonna be the worst day for them. My heart aches for them.

    OMG Mama Arias is taking notes as well 😦 disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:39 pm

      yep scribbling to block out reality seems to run in the family

  216. SeniorMoments
    05/15/2013 at 1:37 pm

    I wonder if she is thinking “You dumb…., that’s not the way I did it! It was this way!”

  217. 05/15/2013 at 1:37 pm

    oh and Nurmi.. you think it wasn’t especially cruel? so how about you die that way?????

  218. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 1:38 pm

    Wurmi really needs to do something about that arm twitch!!

  219. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 1:38 pm

    i’m sitting here with tears running down my face and she can’t pull it off- wtf?

  220. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:38 pm

    3 chicken wings in under 3 minutes!

  221. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:38 pm

    I hope JA is picturing herself on that gurney, strapped down, waiting for the shot of phenobarbital!!!

  222. 05/15/2013 at 1:40 pm

    JOdi.. listen.. your tears are NOT doing the trick here.. you just look like a cold callous freak!!!!!!

  223. 05/15/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Jodi “crying” now that Nurmi is talkin’. Juan shutting him down. Objecting more now than the whole trial. (not really, but you know what mean)

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:47 pm

      dunno bubble that’s a close call!!

  224. 05/15/2013 at 1:41 pm

    yeah not especially cruel… ok.. Nurmi what is YOUR definition of especially cruel… I seriously would like to know.

  225. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:41 pm

    Boobage just flashed for us! Nice!

  226. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Is the booby MS wearing a GIANT cross around her neck?

  227. 05/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

    OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! why?????????

  228. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Did ya check out the massive cross on the MS? I hope that she is praying for forgiveness for trying to help this sorry excuse for a human 😦

  229. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Stupid Wurmi is going to do everything he can to delay the inevitable.

  230. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Alotta good those fake boobies are going to do her in prison!!

  231. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

    OH NOW WTF??? 10 min recess? what, the ho need to go puke this is pure BS

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 1:44 pm

      No … got to touch up that makeup that Troy bought her … gotta look good for Hottie Biscotti Dr. Horn, ya know!

      • la2la
        05/15/2013 at 1:53 pm

        Long-time lurker who is so grateful for this blog and the amazing participants. My observation: Jodi’s wearing a cream satin blouse — let’s count how many fake tears actually make it onto that blouse. Should be very obvious. What a crass, manipulative choice of clothing.

  232. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:42 pm

    Now WHAT?

  233. 05/15/2013 at 1:43 pm

    .5 hour or so and how many objections, approaches…and now a recess

  234. 05/15/2013 at 1:43 pm

    FOL.. refill my glass girl I’m in NEED!!!!!

  235. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:43 pm

    Beans :
    i’m sitting here with tears running down my face and she can’t pull it off- wtf?

    I’m fully medicated and shouldn’t be feeling anything but yet the tears are streaming!!!

  236. NapaNonnie
    05/15/2013 at 1:43 pm

    The MS looks quite “rufflely” today. Oh great a 10 minute recess 20 minutes into the hearing. So disgusting to watch WOBO try to squeeze out a sympathy tear for the jury. Death 4 WOBO

  237. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 1:46 pm

    heavy d, we’ve gotta talk about shirt/tie combos, seriously.

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:48 pm


  238. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 1:47 pm


    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 1:49 pm

      At last! Now lets hope the Judge has the balls to take away WOBO’s craft project while they speak.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:49 pm


    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 1:50 pm

      That’s great! Thanks for the confirmation! I would have been shocked if the judge granted it- this family has earned the right to be heard, in person.

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 1:52 pm


  239. 05/15/2013 at 1:47 pm

    Get ready for a whole lotta head shakin’

  240. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:47 pm

    Syntara :
    FOL.. refill my glass girl I’m in NEED!!!!!

    Pass the POPCORN! I’m chewing on my hair!!! I’m pouring you BIG, HUGE, MARTINI! This is excruciating!

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:49 pm

      thanks dahl.. and here *bowl fresh poppy*

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 1:53 pm

      when you have a moment tell me what you use to make these martinis, they sound great

  241. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:47 pm

    Phooo! Dr. Horn looks clean shaven. 😞

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:49 pm


  242. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:48 pm

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Nurmi is done, Dr. Horn is coming up to the stand and is still under oath. I can almost hear the female tweeters eyes flutter

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    The amazing @kinseyschofield has just take a seat beside me. Counsel just went into chambers. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Dr. Horn is wearing tan pants, white shirt and a black,gray,white tie. He is cleaning up the witness stand with kleenex

  243. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 1:49 pm

    i’m betting on at least 30 min… no way will this be a 10 min break…
    betcha the ho even tries to make it not go on today.
    did you SEE the way she LOOKED at Dr. Horn??

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 1:51 pm

      And be sure her head pops off!

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:51 pm

      yeah she’s got a migraine.. and not a real one like MMD either!

  244. 05/15/2013 at 1:49 pm

    Is Medical Examiner McDreamy going to testify today? If so, I’ll bet Gidget is all atwitter.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 1:50 pm

      Yes and probably 😉

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:51 pm

      Oops, apparently he is. I’m trying to hold down our office & listen to this at the same time–not too efficient…

  245. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 1:51 pm

    I’ve been a crime buff since I was a kid, and over the years have read about and followed cases of many, many murderers, some of them horribly heinous and depraved, yet I haven’t ever developed the personal animosity I have for Jodi Arias, in which I’m really hoping for the death penalty. Others, well, I’ve felt they deserved to die for their crimes, but I didn’t actually wish for it like I am in this case. I didn’t like Casey Anthony, either, but there’s something about JA that takes my dislike to a whole new level. I suspect she creates that emotion in most people. Not sure what it is about her, but I’ll be glad when this is over, she’s on death row, Travis can rest and his family can move forward.

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:53 pm


    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

      I agree… except for the baby Brianna case . I didn’t watch it (dont even know if they showed it) but kept up on the proceedings etc… that one made me feel rage and anger like no other.

  246. 05/15/2013 at 1:51 pm

    Hey, there’s the OJ of old; chuckling like santa claus…

  247. 05/15/2013 at 1:52 pm

    Kevin.. Kevin Kevin.. I wanted at least a 3 day growth!!!!

  248. truejustice
    05/15/2013 at 1:52 pm

    I think they should fit ja with a head brace forcing her to look at these pictures!

  249. Katie
    05/15/2013 at 1:52 pm

    Hello all! Great to read all your thoughts. This is hard to watch. The siblings are heart wrenching, and I tried to put myself in their place, and immediately had to leave that mindset behind because the THOUGHT of it was too painful. I’m praying for them.

    Today, of all days, is where jodi disgusts me the most. Her behavior, her fake crying, her shaking her head,…. It’s all too much.

    I don’t believe in the death penalty, but I see why people can say some deserve it.

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:56 pm

      Hi Katie

  250. 05/15/2013 at 1:52 pm

    Poor Jodi

  251. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 1:53 pm

    Did ya notice that when JA turned her head she snuck a look to make sure she was on camera. Need my hurl bucket 😦

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

      she makes me SICK!!!!!

  252. NancyB
  253. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:54 pm

    I wish the judge would FORCE her to look at her handy work!

    • 05/15/2013 at 1:57 pm

      she probably secretly wants to look.. I’d almost bet on it.

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 2:00 pm

        I agree!

  254. 05/15/2013 at 1:54 pm

    oh yeah she can instill all these horrific things.. immediately set about covering up her crime…. invite him to Othello.. fun fun fun…. straddle and adjust, grind Ryan…. but oh now suddenly can’t look at her handy work… RIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!

  255. LindaLou
    05/15/2013 at 1:54 pm

    She remembers every bit of what she did to him!

  256. 05/15/2013 at 1:54 pm

    @Katie, I agree, some folks just really do need a killing.

  257. 05/15/2013 at 1:56 pm

    hln says JA turns away. huh don’t they know there are screens everywhere as she looks up, sneaks a look…she sees it all.

  258. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 1:57 pm

    she never misses a chance to look at those photos, no matter how much she tries to make it look like she’s not looking.
    oh, right, through all that crying she’s trying to do now, she can still keep on writing.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 1:59 pm

      Oh yea, “morbid curiosity”!

  259. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 1:58 pm

    The entire time I’m watching her FAKE emotion, I’m recalling her 45 minute post conviction interview- no remorse, and her further damning comments about Travis being a pedophile, and snipes to his family. I hope Juan shows clips during the next phase!

    • 05/15/2013 at 2:00 pm

      ZEGACTLY!!!!! same FOL!!! thats what sickens me most and why Im guzzling!!!

      • Family of Law
        05/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

        ***refreshing your glass***

  260. 05/15/2013 at 1:58 pm

    I think it’s interesting that she “appears” to be crying. I have glasses but don’t really need them yet, tho maybe today…someone let me know, would she not remove her glasses if she were truly crying? Is there “fog”. Wouldn’t tears smear, or dirty the specatcles?

    • la2la
      05/15/2013 at 2:01 pm

      That satin blouse should show every real tear that courses down her cheeks. Bet there are no droplets. What a manipulative choice of clothing.

    • Jay
      05/15/2013 at 2:02 pm


    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

      I have to take off my reading glasses to wipe away my tears

    • Dewey
      05/15/2013 at 2:09 pm

      Cant produce tears, thats why shes always squeezing her nose with a tissue. Makes her nose red to make people think shes crying!

  261. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Did he say she may have taken more than one slice at the throat?

    • Jay
      05/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

      gave that impression

  262. 05/15/2013 at 1:59 pm

    how the hell does someone slit someone’s throat like that just because they didn’t want them? just because they told them they were what they are.. just pure evil!!! Amazing! That neck wound is truly something else.. a stand alone wound for so many reasons.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 2:01 pm

      The slitting of the throat is what will give her the DP- because no human can see it as anything but a truly COLD BLOODED, EVIL act.

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 2:04 pm


  263. 05/15/2013 at 2:01 pm

    I am shocked at the fact that Wobo’s mother can sit there with no emotion what so ever!

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

      just consider what she spawned!!!

  264. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

    Good! Make the jury really see what happened here! Viciousness!!

    Wild About Trial@WildAboutTrial
    We are in sidebar. The gruesome throat image remains on the screens.

  265. 05/15/2013 at 2:02 pm

    she is the most evil think I have ever come across in my life. Her self righteousness knows no bounds and how she could do that to another human being.. let alone someone who only ever tried to help her and stick up for her.. is beyond mind blowing.

    • Lisa M
      05/15/2013 at 7:45 pm

      She’s evil alright but the killers in the other case Donchais is following bring evil to a whole new level IMO

  266. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Afternoon all! Been lurking, juggling 🙂 and building castles yesterday and today.

  267. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

    Oh, come on judge! Let the jury here the full extent of what Travis went through without allowing the DT to continually object and approach. That’s the whole point of this phase of the process.

    • Kathy A.
      05/15/2013 at 2:04 pm

      I meant “hear”. 🙂

  268. 05/15/2013 at 2:03 pm

    omg another break?????

  269. Dewey
    05/15/2013 at 2:04 pm

    Will she speak on her own behalf or wont she? She’s had 5 years to apologize but didnt. She had 18 days on the stand to show remorse but didn’t. She trashed him again and again after the verdict. Even though the jury is not supposed to know about the interview, I’m sure most do. What could she possibly say to save her life at this point? “Its too late baby now ,it’s too late” (Thank you Carole King)

  270. Jay
    05/15/2013 at 2:04 pm

    ah yes she’s in remorse mode while jury leaves. head slightly down… soon as they were out she dropped the pose…

  271. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 2:05 pm



    what a joke a sick, twisted, f’d up JOKE

  272. 05/15/2013 at 2:05 pm

    why the heck are all these interruptions being allowed???? we just started after a huge break ffs!!!

  273. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 2:06 pm

    Any tweets to explain this break?

  274. 05/15/2013 at 2:07 pm

    two minutes is up… get back in here!!!!!!

  275. 05/15/2013 at 2:08 pm

    break is so she can keep rubbing her face and ensure it stays red

  276. 05/15/2013 at 2:08 pm

    omg is einstein wilmott

    • 05/15/2013 at 2:09 pm

      he feels no pain after he is dead! jennistein

  277. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:09 pm

    Wow. She’s changed her tone for him this time around!!

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 2:11 pm

      Has to … has to act like she respects the jury and their decision … no doubt this will send Jodi over the edge! Maybe she will stab Wilnot in the eyse with her golf pencil!

  278. 05/15/2013 at 2:10 pm

    What???after he dies, he doesn’t feel any more?

    And she’s in a hush voice – that’s a change. I would think not trying to offend the jury, NOT the family.

  279. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 2:10 pm

    note to self – ,’after i die i won’t feel anything.

  280. 05/15/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Yeah, but the bullit came after he was dead, so she really wasn’t really being THAT mean, is that what Willsnot said?

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 2:13 pm

      Pretty much!

  281. Gracerv7
    05/15/2013 at 2:11 pm

    Wow never seen Wilmot cross this way. I bet she’s trying to make the jury like her so they save her client.

  282. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:12 pm

    Poor wittle remorseful jodi 😦 Please! Give me a Fn break!!

  283. 05/15/2013 at 2:13 pm

    oh so because he tried to get away.. he died sooner cos his heart pumped faster… well nooo cos he was still alive when she slit his throat!!! Ohhhhh and because we have adrenalin in flight mode.. he feels not pain so it’s not cruel… riiiiiiiight! got ya now Jenistein! So no murder can ever be cruel because the person feels no pain cos of adrenaline? well let’s release all the cold hearted killers weren’t cruel at all!

    • Dewey
      05/15/2013 at 2:16 pm

      Syn, you didnt really think that after 5 months, the defense was going to come up with something believable did you?

      • 05/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

        NO 😛

      • 05/15/2013 at 2:20 pm

        but thought they’d make a better attempt!!!

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 2:32 pm

      wow, when you look at it stabby’s point of view, she did him a favour.

      • 05/15/2013 at 2:34 pm

        yeah she was helping him die so he didn’t live so long.. now we got it!

  284. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 2:14 pm

    Yea, Perky… JA’s EVIL adrenaline WAS enabling her to viciously attack him, and Travis’s adrenaline was used for fight or flight- not enough to keep him from FEELING THE PAIN! You sick, twisted biotch!

  285. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 2:16 pm

    Oh, but the pain wasn’t THAT bad – adrenaline and fear took over, it was apparently a pleasant death?

  286. 05/15/2013 at 2:18 pm

    Nurmi’s wearing the same getup from the St. Patricks Day massacre.

  287. 05/15/2013 at 2:18 pm

    JW objection to whether he can feel, see, or hear (forgot which one). it was overruled and then she smiles – what????

  288. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Ooh – Dr. Horn looked like he wanted to laugh at all the “overruled” objections!

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 2:23 pm

      that’s what i thought too.

  289. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:19 pm

    Love Dr. Horn!! Looking at JM then JW for Objection then Judge for ruling! Too cute 🙂

    • 05/15/2013 at 2:20 pm

      yeah… cos once he answered too quick and had to hold his smile

  290. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 2:20 pm

    Not one single tear! That bitch!

  291. Katie
    05/15/2013 at 2:21 pm

    A sewing or sawing motion….. Oh my god…

  292. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Only one juror Q? Yup, they understand exactly how much he suffered.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 2:22 pm

      Oh, 2.

  293. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Powerful ending by Dr. Horn and JM. “A sawing motion.” Even Willnot had a reaction.

  294. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 2:21 pm

    she would kill over and over again. pure evil serial killer

    • Dewey
      05/15/2013 at 2:26 pm

      Absolutely, if she got away with this, she would feel empowered.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 2:30 pm

      I still think she has killed before, somewhere, somehow!

  295. 05/15/2013 at 2:21 pm

    lots red makeup… to redden her look.. even on her eyelids

  296. 05/15/2013 at 2:22 pm

    Oh, boo hoo. Rudolph the Red Nosed….no…Stabby…no Jodi really looks trapped. She’s trying so damn hard to look all pathetic and victimy. Her “reputation” is really taking a hit today.

    • Lisa M
      05/15/2013 at 2:38 pm

      What a hypocrite she is, crying over the same guy she called a pedophile and a batterer just a week ago.

  297. 05/15/2013 at 2:25 pm

    hahahahahahah she is triying to keep her lips red.. and she inadvertently bit her lip.. and oh it hurt her…. see see how much your stabbings hurt Travis you biatch….. when you winced and almost cried just biting your freakin lip… or was the bite to bring tears???? either way see it hurt didn’t it wicked witch woo woo!!!!

  298. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:26 pm

    Maybe if I swint just a bit more I can get some tears out. She’s disgusting.

  299. 05/15/2013 at 2:26 pm

    what us with JW’s smiing as she takes over questionning. she’s sick, sick, sick

  300. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 2:27 pm

    You’re history, Stabitha!

    • Lisa M
      05/15/2013 at 7:48 pm

      Stabitha first I’ve heard that – good one

  301. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 2:27 pm

    I’m glad Perky wore her funeral suit today- very appropriate.

  302. Jay
    05/15/2013 at 2:27 pm

    closing arguments…jury decision today?

  303. Gracerv7
    05/15/2013 at 2:27 pm

    Does anyone know when Jodi or Travis’ family speaks?

  304. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 2:27 pm

    sooooooo after the jury deliberates this…. will we continue today???????

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 2:31 pm

      I dont think so. But who knows.

  305. 05/15/2013 at 2:28 pm

    Nurmi: Objection, his having a bathroom is irrelevant

  306. Jay
    05/15/2013 at 2:28 pm

    Nurmi’s tie looks like a row boat going over a waterfall

    • Dewey
      05/15/2013 at 2:33 pm

      he dresses like hes in costume.

  307. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Don’t really understand JA’s drama if she wants the death penalty!

  308. 05/15/2013 at 2:29 pm

    still dont get why we couldnt have done this after 2:14 last week!!! oh yeah thats right.. Jodi had to get to her interview! I remember now.

    • Marilyn N
      05/15/2013 at 2:31 pm

      They needed to make sure Jodi wasn’t totally C R a Z y !!!!!

  309. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Judge, control your courtroom! Shut down Wurmi’s ridiculous objections!

  310. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 2:32 pm

    Wonder if the MS’s watch is big enough!!

  311. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:32 pm

    What is Willnot staring at? She looks crazy!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 2:33 pm

      OMG! I caught that too!!! Sooooo creepy!!

    • Kathy A.
      05/15/2013 at 2:35 pm

      It’s like she had a brain freeze!

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 2:39 pm

      Hope it wasn’t a juror! Imagine what that would have been like… looking over at her and seeing that. Cringing!

  312. 05/15/2013 at 2:33 pm

    where is CC’sC?????

  313. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 2:34 pm

    The nerve of JA – shaking her head no – Unbelievable the evil that exudes from her!

    • Katie
      05/15/2013 at 7:08 pm

      I found her shaking her head very interesting since she claims she doesn’t remember killing Travis…when the pros. stated he could see her in the mirror she shook her head no…very telling

  314. 05/15/2013 at 2:36 pm

    Lost my internet connection 😦
    missed wilmuts cross exam
    Did I miss anything?

    • 05/15/2013 at 2:39 pm

      just her trying to say because he was producing adrenaline.. he wasn’t feeling fear or pain.. which is a usual ridiculous.. because it is when you fear the most.. feel in fear of your life that you produce the most adrenaline.. so no nothing but the DT shooting themselves in the foot as usual.

      • 05/15/2013 at 2:40 pm

        Thanks Syntara. I am really glad they did not make any points

  315. 05/15/2013 at 2:36 pm

    How long do you think the jurors will deliberate?

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 2:40 pm

      Hopefully… 5 minutes!

  316. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Omg! That skanky MS is wearing a blinged crucifix, dangling down her boobage fru fru blouse!!!

  317. 05/15/2013 at 2:37 pm

    exactly.. adrenaline is produced because of fear and pain. So if he is pulsating with adrenaline he MUST be feeling fear and pain!

  318. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 2:38 pm

    The Wurm is worried that he may have to give half price specials to get any clients……

  319. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 2:38 pm

    have the onions to look at the results of your handiwork you.d-.bag

  320. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 2:38 pm

    wtf is with whinesalot??? she is so crossed-over to the hodi side. shame on her

    • Lisa M
      05/15/2013 at 2:41 pm

      Juan, you are beyond awesome, making us all sit as two minutes go by! He’s brilliant.

  321. Lisa M
    05/15/2013 at 2:39 pm

    Wow, this really is like the final scene of Fatal Attraction. I’m sure the jury has seen that movie, too.

  322. 05/15/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Well done JUan!!!!! waiting for two mins.. and in his condition that would have seemed 10 times longer..

    • ringadingding
      05/15/2013 at 2:43 pm

      Brilliant move.

      • Lisa M
        05/15/2013 at 2:47 pm

        And it really did seem like a long time.

  323. 05/15/2013 at 2:40 pm

    Watching, listening to Jodi is like watching a fool who thinks they’re real smart. Kinda like in The Jerk when Steve Martin/Navin Johnson hooks the Low Rider car to a chain and secures it to the church’s water spigot to catch the Banditos, then goes in to the gas station to call the cops, “Yeah, it’s me again, they’re not going anywhere” And the car drives away dragging the church from its foundation.

  324. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 2:41 pm

    How do you spell Jodi Arias? – P A T H E T I C P I E C E O F G A R B A G E …..

    • 05/15/2013 at 2:43 pm

      E V I L

    • Lisa M
      05/15/2013 at 2:44 pm


  325. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 2:41 pm

    Who leaves their glasses on when they cry? Wouldn’t they be “Fogging up”?

  326. 05/15/2013 at 2:42 pm


    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 2:43 pm

      yeah, juan’s nailing it.

  327. Marilyn N
    05/15/2013 at 2:44 pm

    JA trying to make herself faint!

  328. ringadingding
    05/15/2013 at 2:45 pm

    I’m watching in full screen mode. Not a single drop coming from those wonky eyes.

  329. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:45 pm

    Wild About Trial@WildAboutTrial
    Jurors have the most serious looks on their faces that I have seen so far

  330. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 2:45 pm

    Oh I bet Stabbie regrets telling her tale about her “suicide attempt” now! “It stung when I nicked myself with the razor…”

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 2:47 pm

      juan’s making her choke on that story.

    • 05/15/2013 at 2:48 pm

      hahhaah yep she has no idea when to not play the victim! she is EQ bereft

  331. 05/15/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Im sorry.. but if she doesn’t deserve the death penalty for EVERYTHING she has done on that day and since… NOBODY does.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 2:53 pm

      100% AGREED!

  332. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:46 pm

    Nurmi has on plain old beige socks today

    • Gracerv7
      05/15/2013 at 2:48 pm

      Haha Nienna! I’ve noticed his weird socks all through the trial as well!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 2:48 pm

      I’d say they were gym socks… But I doubt he’s seen the inside of a gym since elementary school.

  333. Gracerv7
    05/15/2013 at 2:47 pm

    Very powerful move on Juan part and IMO way classier than going through the motions of stabbing him. He just took less is more to a new level.

  334. 05/15/2013 at 2:48 pm

    Someone posited earlier that the lie she told about the ninjas, may have had a shred of truth in that he was losing feeling and control of his legs, which might explain why his feet were bruised because, the theory went, she was jumping on his legs and feet…Maybe.

  335. Lisa M
    05/15/2013 at 2:49 pm

    I actually think Juan is underplaying it. I mean, he’s doing a great job, but I think that what Travis experienced can’t be put into words. I think it was actually worse than the words Juan says. I think it was terrifying, agonizing, just an onslaught that was unspeakably cruel.

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

      yup, the facts speak for themselves, he merely has to put them out there.

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 2:55 pm

      He’s probably saving the big guns for the re-closing statement (or whatever it’s called) so that Wurmi come up with something lame to try and rebut it.

  336. Nienna
    05/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    There seems to be something wrong with my headphones… All I hear is blah, blahbablah, blah 🙂

  337. 05/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    objective, subjective, human condition, prejudice.. no matter how it’s spun.. I reach ONLY one conclusion… HEINOUS

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 2:53 pm

      with death penalty to follow and i too am not always pro dp.

      • 05/15/2013 at 2:55 pm

        first time I have EVER been pro DP usually vehemently against it.

    • Lisa M
      05/15/2013 at 3:04 pm

      I think Juan did a good job, but he should have also painted a picture of how hard Travis fought for his life and tried to get away from her, and she literally chased him down like a hunter hunting her prey, without mercy. How cruel is it for someone to be consciously aware that their life is in immediate danger and have that will to live, which has to be so strong, kick in, and yet, you’re continually being attacked, and being pursued. You’re panicked, and you’re dying and the last minute, or longer, had to be agonizing.

      • 05/15/2013 at 3:07 pm

        I think he expects the jury to get that… he always seems to give the jury the benefit of being able to work a lot out for themselves, it has been his style all the way through rather than over describing every aspect.

  338. Lisa M
    05/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    I mean, he didn’t even have time to think; he must have been in total shock, just barely able to put a thought together about what was happening, and bam, he’s stabbed again.

  339. Kathy A.
    05/15/2013 at 2:52 pm

    How can Wurmi try to imply Travis didn’t suffer mental or any other anguish? Does it really matter that it wasn’t a full two minutes! A**hole.

  340. 05/15/2013 at 2:53 pm

    hahaha if he isnt conscious how did he make it to the basin and down the hall Nurmistein?????

  341. 05/15/2013 at 2:55 pm

    After hearnig all of where Juan took us, I am feeling a powerful sense of reverance coming over me. For Travis, for life, for death, his, ours. JA is so unimportant and irrelevant right now – other than sending her away forever from us, this life, whatever. It’s all about Travis. I’m awestruck.

  342. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Oh Nurmi you idiot! But you yourself argued he could move after shot! His goose is cooked! It is obvious he got to the end of the hallway and had his throat slit ….

  343. 05/15/2013 at 2:56 pm

    Nurmistein… that tie was a HUGE mistake

  344. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 2:56 pm

    OMG i cannot STAND it when that wurm whines…

  345. Gracerv7
    05/15/2013 at 2:56 pm

    I love how Juan is taking points she used to look better to the jury and turning them on her.

  346. 05/15/2013 at 2:57 pm

    Anybody seen that picture of Travis on a couch at a party smiling at the camera, and in the background, other partygoers, and about 15 feet away, a blond girl with crazy eyes, smiling for the camera too…CREEPY. Other people are oblivious, but she was aware of EVERTHING Travis…

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 2:59 pm

      I say that! VERY creepy!

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 3:43 pm

      I heard about it – but didn’t see. Where is the pic at hln ?

  347. WhereIsSHE
    05/15/2013 at 2:58 pm

    I hope Juan explains something like this to the jury:
    A premeditated gunshot wound to the back of the head, which causes IMMEDIATE DEATH– when the victim was unaware of the approaching danger– is still CRUEL, 1st degree murder, under the law.
    In that circumstance though, we cannot prove that it was “especially cruel” as an aggravator–under the law.

    He saw himself being attacked.. he felt the knife going in (AND coming out) of his skin.. into his flesh.. his bones…
    He tried, in vain, to STOP this vicious attack, only to suffer MORE wounds to his very nerve-wired hands…
    He had to know that he was dying.
    HAD TO.

    That is what we call “MORTAL TERROR”, and THAT is the absolute height of “especially cruel”.

  348. 05/15/2013 at 2:59 pm

    ok.. lets just get objective for a minute…. nothing NOTHING Nurmistein is saying makes any sense. It ONLY says… Desperation and spin… and not even good spin.. cos there really isn’t anything to spin.

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 3:06 pm

      this defence’s style. they don’t talk about did happen, they focus on what didn’t happen.

  349. 05/15/2013 at 2:59 pm

    hahahah didnt know she was causing pain… ok that’s a whole new stretch!!!!

  350. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 2:59 pm

    I’m sooooooooooooooo glad that I missed Wurmi’s closing – all of you that watched you have my deepest condolences.

    Now Wurmi is trying pulling out even the kitchen sink. Got nada to work with. Obfuscation and confusion of the facts.

  351. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Huh? BPD = she had no understanding of physical pain?

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:03 pm

      see lucky Dr DeMarte did the IQ test! 😛

      • Lisa M
        05/15/2013 at 3:20 pm

        LOL Syn

  352. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 3:00 pm

    Where’s Mamastein’s DV ribbon? Hmmmm?

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 3:04 pm

      guess she doesn’t have to fake it anymore 😉

  353. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 3:01 pm

    Does JA have her stubby pencils today???

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 3:03 pm


  354. SeniorMoments
    05/15/2013 at 3:02 pm

    Look at how low her chair is today! She has “shrunk” into her chair, “weeping”, to show the jury how tiny and helpless she is! Too bad the jury can’t hear her contact the reporter in her best executive assistant (like she has ever had such a position!)voice toset ip her camera shoot!

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:04 pm

      ya she is going to be under the table soon

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 3:05 pm

      And how high up Wilnot’s is. Bet her feet are swinging under the desk.

    • NancyB
      05/15/2013 at 3:07 pm

      Thanks for pointing that out!

    • Dewey
      05/15/2013 at 3:08 pm

      If she wasnt a psychotic killer she may have had a career in voice overs. Ive never seen anyone who can change their speaking voice every time they speak to someone new. Baby jodi, meek and mild jodi, defiant jodi, authoritative jodi. She never sounds the same!

  355. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 3:03 pm

    Brilliant Juan!!! Bringing REALITY back in!!! Wurmi spin shut down!

  356. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 3:05 pm

    JM is an absolute genius – twenty feet tall!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally in awe of his skill!!!

  357. 05/15/2013 at 3:05 pm

    mint tim tams disappearing… 😯

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 3:14 pm

      Thanks for sharing! Not! Pffffffffft! I was forced to eat cold BBQ chicken pizza!

      • 05/15/2013 at 3:15 pm

        lol!!!! hey I only had 5.. and I till have 2 left.. so swap ya… piece of bbq chook pizza for 2 tim tams?

      • Family of Law
        05/15/2013 at 3:22 pm

        You showed great nibble restraint! I hereby award you 2 slices of BBQ chick pizza! 🙂

  358. Lisa M
    05/15/2013 at 3:07 pm

    OMG, Wurmi is twisting Juan’s words. He never said she was aware of the pain she was because she made an attempt to kill herself (right!) but he spoke about stuff that happened before that point.
    Uh, Wurmi, they’ve already shown they’re firmly convinced that she wasn’t in a fog, so what the hell are you talking about? Oh, he’s using the borderline personality disorder, Syn, you were right!

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:12 pm

      yeah but they use it now…. that’s how stupid they are.. they should have used it all along. IJITS!!! luckily!!

      • Lisa M
        05/15/2013 at 3:18 pm

        Ha ha! Don’t you think they’ll use it in the next phase, though, assuming we get there?

      • 05/15/2013 at 3:20 pm

        hmm well they used it now.. so yes may very well be going to. Finally they cottoned on to what I saw instantly. truly idiots.. just glad they are! Plus at that late stage it will be very easy to argue against rather than having used it as the total defense which is what they should have done. Well I would have in their shoes it would have been far more effective than the crap they came out with

  359. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 3:08 pm

    Really, no lunch break before the jury retires? Amazing! Maybe the Judge has vacation planned or something.

  360. 05/15/2013 at 3:08 pm

    The OJ trial was insane because of the attraction and the circus and the lies and the injustice. But I can honestly say I have never seen ANYTHING like this trial.

  361. 05/15/2013 at 3:08 pm

    omg …. now they are off to deliberate…. Janeto!!!!!!!!!

  362. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 3:10 pm

    So … are we taking bets on how long they will be out? And, will we continue on today or will be back on hold?

  363. 05/15/2013 at 3:10 pm

    If this ain’t cruel… well surely it HAS to be cruel.. doesn’t it??? I mean seriously can they actually find against this??? ok yeah I guess they can… somehow.

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 3:12 pm

      I don’t think so … like FOL said, that throat slit will do her in.

      • 05/15/2013 at 3:14 pm

        well one would think so… in a sane world.. but this is far from a sane world most of the time. *nail biting*

  364. 05/15/2013 at 3:11 pm

    oh goodie let’s line up all the little books neatly and then look through the pages… self soothing… oh yes I’m such a good person… look I can read too.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 3:26 pm

      Lol! She’s such a good ill organizer!!! How much would you pay to get your hands on those journals?

      • 05/15/2013 at 3:27 pm

        omg I would love those journals… inside the mind of a psychopath

  365. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 3:11 pm

    What’s JA thinking right now Syn as she packs up her papers???????

  366. 05/15/2013 at 3:11 pm

    Urp, there’s Stabby, doing her Junior Lawyer impression!

  367. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 3:12 pm

    mmm, jurors gone, glasses off, no more irritating of the nose. now time to check calender for next scheduled interview.

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:16 pm

      Im surprised she doesnt have chilli powder on those tissue…that’s really redden her up!

      • 05/15/2013 at 3:43 pm

        LOL. Was that on her Commissary list she didn’t get like Santa skipping her house?

  368. katz63md
    05/15/2013 at 3:13 pm

    I love how JA was looking like she was about to pass out about 5 minutes ago but now is straightening her stuff and looking just peachy. What a freakin dumba** actress.

  369. 05/15/2013 at 3:13 pm

    Soooooo. Is the judge thinking the jury will be back in a matter of minutes or what? No 1 1/2 hr lunch break?

  370. 05/15/2013 at 3:14 pm

    I think these deliberations will be quick. I have little to no doubt she will get the death penalty. And I think Juan had so much to do with it. Imagine if a nitwit like Christopher Darden had the case…

    In the years to come I can see myself watching the trial again on Youtube. “Are you shitting me? You never heard of the Arias trial? Oh, You gotta see this…”

  371. WhereIsSHE
    05/15/2013 at 3:16 pm

    I missed the jury question. Can someone post it here, please?

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:18 pm

      there were two… one was Dr Horn testifying to 3 fatal wounds ie stab to chest, throat slash and gunshot to the head

      other one I can’t remember sorry

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 3:22 pm

      Describe 3 fatal wounds. He said if taken separately, Heart, throat and gunshot. The wound to the throat, did he think it more likely multiple slits or sawing? He said due to decomp could not say for sure.

      • WhereIsSHE
        05/15/2013 at 3:33 pm

        Thanks. (I think.)
        Ughhh. What a gruesome question.
        And would it make a difference as to this being an “especially cruel” murder whether it was multiple slits or sawing??? (Maybe I am not understanding the point of the question. Like, did t juror wonder whether she sat there, literally sawing his neckapart while he was still conscious, such that Travis would have felt the additional pain and horror of a prolonged attack on his neck?

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 3:36 pm

      Actually, I just re-wound and here they are verbatim
      1) Did you previously testify that Mr. Alexander had 3 rapidly fatal wounds? Yes, the wounds that would have been fatal were the stab wound to the heart, the throat cut and the gunshot wound, taken in isolation from each other.
      2) With regard to the throat do you have an opinion which was more likely to cause scalloping, decomposition or multiple wounds? Because of the decomposition I can’t say. In a fresher state you may he able to see multiple cuts thru the neck muscles and other structures underneath but I wasn’t able to determine that so I really can’t say.

  372. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 3:17 pm

    OMG! The MS is helping her clean her glasses!!!! WTF!!!

  373. Lisa M
    05/15/2013 at 3:17 pm

    I liked Christopher Darden! It wasn’t his fault, it was Marcia Clark’s! 🙂

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 3:26 pm

      And that crazy Judge Lance Ito!

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:26 pm

      Lisa, I would have said Clark, but before that case I think she had been reasonably successful in her convicton rate. Maybe a bad example. That jury was never going to convict no matter what. I think they were both outmatched and incompetant. Remember, it was Darden that insisted on the glove debacle, to Clark’s surprise. Big mistake not introducing the Bronco chase, the contents of the vehicle, and the suicide note. And Clark not listening to Vinson, the jury consultant.

      Would love to have a Cochran (D) vs.Martinez (P) battle.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 3:30 pm

      I think the prosecution had lost that case before they even walked into the courtroom. No way, no how, were they gonna convict OJ aka The Juice, imo

      • WhereIsSHE
        05/15/2013 at 3:45 pm

        MMD- Not in LA COUNTY they wouldn’t have, based on the jury pool. So, right you are.
        The real problem was the D.A., Gil Garcetti (If I recall his name correctly). Clark and Darden were just the lead prosecutors on the case. (She was OK; HE was bordering on incompetence at times.)
        It was the D.A. (their boss) who decided to try the case in LA vs. in BRENTWOOD.

        Even the “Juice” would have had a very dificult time getting that acquittal in Brentwood.

        in L.A., they got a jury who was seen as heroic for the acquittal. They came from a community that had been through years ofapparent injustice vis-a-vis the LAPD.
        And then you had a detective who allegedly used racist terms to describemembers of their community/racial background.

        We call that “jury nullification”.

  374. Irie Girl
    05/15/2013 at 3:18 pm

    I wish the jury could see Arias’s demeanor change as soon as they are out the door. And they had to of noticed the height difference between Arias’s chair back and Willmott’s. Arias did herself no favors looking like a hobbit hiding under the table. (no offense to hobbits)

    • Dewey
      05/15/2013 at 3:21 pm

      they know her true demeanor, she showed it to them when juan was cross examining her.

      • Irie Girl
        05/15/2013 at 3:23 pm

        true. Thank you for the reminder 🙂

      • 05/15/2013 at 3:23 pm

        ya the “I don’t know that his throat was slit there either” *smirk* *yay me I scored a good one there*

        would have showed them the inner Jodi quite clearly!

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 3:22 pm

      i think hobbits will let that slide.

  375. Lisa M
    05/15/2013 at 3:26 pm

    Jean saying it will only be about an hour before the jury comes back. That’s optimistic!

  376. NancyB
    • 05/15/2013 at 3:34 pm

      MMD—– DON’T LOOK!!!!

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 3:34 pm

      Darlin’ that’s old news – it came out on the 10th!!! I keep telling ya that I’m not just a pretty face 😉 and I keep telling ya how private he is but nobody will believe me 😦 Little do they know what has really happened and Chrissie has the proof! 😀

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 3:36 pm

        Both of us got a good chuckle out of it! 😆

  377. 05/15/2013 at 3:29 pm

    Lisa M. see above reply.

  378. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 3:30 pm
    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 3:39 pm

      Love the ky, Wurmi gross and I doubt her mother would even attend. They’re so poor, dontcha know 🙄

  379. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/15/2013 at 3:31 pm

    Everything crossed here for the DP!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:35 pm

      There you lot are! **waves*** hurro

  380. 05/15/2013 at 3:32 pm

    I dunno, Johnnie Hobbit considering a lawsuit, claiming discrimination. Better watch it. I hear Hobbits are pretty chill people, but some of those Elves can be a pain in the ass.

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:37 pm

      not to mention being put in the same sentence as the unmentionable one… that has to be stretching it too!!!

    • Irie Girl
      05/15/2013 at 3:38 pm

      LOL I take back every bad thing I’ve ever said about hobbits……can I call her a troll?

      • Beans
        05/15/2013 at 3:49 pm

        an orc works for me.

  381. Lisa M
    05/15/2013 at 3:34 pm

    You know what really pissed me off that Nurmi said? That comment he made that the jury shouldn’t be swayed by sentiment, by what they see and hear in the courtroom. I certainly hope that he wasn’t referring to the gasp Travis’s sister let out at the verdict, which I know ticked off Wilmott. Here the family sat there silently through all his “3-hole wonder” BS, and his slanderous accusations, and they did it with the utmost of dignity; and they let out one little gasp of relief and the DT are such babies they can’t let it go. Well, they’re clutching at straws, but it never ceases to amaze me how low these people are.

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:39 pm

      never ceases to amaze me how low Jodi goes.. I find it ironic they keep lowering her chair just to prove she can get lower.

      • Irie Girl
        05/15/2013 at 3:41 pm

        She could throw a clot sitting like that… just saying

      • Lisa M
        05/15/2013 at 4:02 pm


  382. 05/15/2013 at 3:35 pm

    @MMD, ultimately blame goes to DA Gil Garcetti for trying the case “downtown” instead of in Santa Monica.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 3:38 pm

      That I agree with bubble!

  383. 05/15/2013 at 3:39 pm

    This shouldn’t take too long as the Judge let the jurors go deliberate without even a lunch break, so she must think it is going to be a quick decision, yes??? no???

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 3:42 pm

      According to Beth Karas they have gone to get lunch and brought it back to the jury room but don’t know if they are going to start deliberating right away. I do think, hope, pray, knock on wood, that it is quick just for the family’s sake!!!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:42 pm

      I think so.

  384. 05/15/2013 at 3:41 pm

    @Syn: Just saying The Umentionable One, and “strethching it” in the same sentance…oof. Now hearing Hobbits suiing for slander being mentioned alongside Arias…

    • 05/15/2013 at 3:45 pm

      hahahah I knew you would pick up on that bubble!!! 😛

  385. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 3:42 pm

    Beans :
    when you have a moment tell me what you use to make these martinis, they sound great

    Hi Beans! I’m happy to share the goodness! 
    This is the recipe for (2) servings OR (1) nice “Tall one”!

    1/2 cup citrus-flavored vodka (We like Grey Goose Citron)
    1/4 cup (1 orange) freshly squeezed blood orange juice- if you can’t find blood oranges, you can find a small jar of fresh juice at select liquor stores. 
    2 tablespoons of Simple Syrup
    Dried blood orange segments, for garnish (and nibbling)!

    In a cocktail shaker, combine vodka, juice, and simple syrup with ice (more ice the better) shake it up. Strain into 2 martini glasses, and garnish with orange segments. 

    They’re heavenly!!!! Cheers!

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 3:59 pm

      thanks FOL. my grocery has blood oranges but haven’t seen juice. sounds so good think i’ll just mix a batch in the bathtub and dive in.

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 4:07 pm


      • Family of Law
        05/15/2013 at 4:21 pm

        Fresh squeezed is the way to go! Although, you may want to buy a good commercial juicer squeeze enought o fill a bathtub!!! Lol!

    • Lisa M
      05/15/2013 at 4:01 pm

      They sound amazing FOL! I want one right now!

      • Family of Law
        05/15/2013 at 4:30 pm

        Lisa, they have replace my love of Lemon Drops! They’re so yum!!!!!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 4:28 pm

      MMD, are you rolling your eyes at me? Or Beans bathtub sized serving? How’s you head feeling? Any better?

  386. 05/15/2013 at 3:44 pm

    and MA going for her cleaning rag so JA can clean her glasses from her fountain of tears – NOT!

  387. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/15/2013 at 3:47 pm

    Syntara :
    There you lot are! **waves*** hurro

    Hello all….we took some time out for life. We were reading, but with all the different trials going on some in our group were getting really stressed out. Especially with OJ crawling out from under his rock! That was just too much for us!! Reading through all your postings was getting a little confusing for us too so we just took some time off to get us all back on track. We even got back to going to our early morning exercise classes just to ground ourselves again. But……we’re seeing this trial through to the end. We want to be here for Travis!!

    By the way….we received a very nice Thank You card from Samantha!! Made us feel so happy for the little bit we could do for them!!

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 3:56 pm

      For me, you ladies and your participation, contribution, wit, and insightful questions have made this an experience to be remembered! Thank you. 😊

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 4:10 pm

      Your circle has always been the heart and soul of the posters. You are the fun group that we all want to join not to mention your common sense and life experiences. It’s been a joy ladies 😀

  388. NancyB
    05/15/2013 at 3:50 pm

    Arias’ aunt is busy signing petitions on Change.org

    Sue Allen Halterman

    March 17 – May 8 via Change.org.

    Nancy Grace and Hln network: Stop saying false information about Jodi Arias. – Sign the Petition!
    Sue just signed this petition on Change.org.

    • Sign the Petition

    ebay.com: This petition is to stop the auction of product saying Jodi Arias is guilty – Sign the Petition!
    Sue just signed this petition on Change.org.

    • Sign the Petition

    If I were in this mother’s position, I am sure I would love my child. I would attend court. I would testify truthfully if asked to do so and I’d ask the jury to spare their life.

    I would NOT laugh in court.

    I would NOT wear a ribbon for a cause that my child is lying about.

    I would NOT complain to the judge about the victim’s family wearing ribbons for their brother.

    I would NOT approach a tabloid to sell forged letters.

    I would NOT attempt to tamper with the jury by lying about them.

    There is loving and supporting your child, and there is enabling your murdering child’s continued manipulation and bad behavior. Unfortunately, I don’t think this family knows the difference.

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 4:15 pm

      Where’s the petition for me to sign, the one that states JA MUST CEASE DEFAMING Travis Alexander’s character? I’ll sign ANYTHING to make her stop saying Travis was a pedophile and a monster!

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:20 pm

      I really try to give the rest of that family the benefit of the doubt in a lot of ways… but there really does seem to be something seriously putrid in that litter box.

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 4:23 pm


  389. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/15/2013 at 3:50 pm

    Oh…..so is everyone relieved now that Willanurmi clarified with the ME that once we are dead we do not feel any pain?!! What a dipshit she is!! Does she not hear herself??!!! And she teaches new attorneys??!!! What a BIG dipshit!!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 4:01 pm

      Hello ladies!!! Well said, as usual!!! (dipshit is one of my “go to” favorites! So descriptive!!! Lol!)

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 4:02 pm

      So relieved. I’ve been wondering about that for a very long time.

  390. Irie Girl
    05/15/2013 at 3:55 pm

    I wonder about the psychological effects on jury members after a case like this. I am sure there has to be some,but Syntara do you have any thoughts on whether they would be positive or negative?

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 4:00 pm

      Just to contribute — Federal court now permits Judges to authorize payment for a few counseling sessions for individual jurors following trial with disturbing evidence.

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:06 pm

      very much dependent on the personality of each juror. As they have been DP qualified I would hope any long term effect would be minimal. But certain aspects of this trial would stick with them for life I would think. The hardest part for them is not being able to freely talk about it.. once they are released from that I hope they would return to relative normalcy fairly quickly but as I said… really depends on the individuals personality typing.

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:12 pm

      Some may in the long term actually have a positive outcome.. especially if others around them are supportive of their decisions. It may actually prove to have been an empowering experience but I would expect that to be a long term effect not an immediate one simply because a number of other emotions would have to be worked through first. I can imagine for a normally ordered person, the experience would be extremely emotional on many levels.

  391. 05/15/2013 at 3:56 pm

    I think they’ll be back shortly. Juan led them to the water, they just have to get in.

  392. 05/15/2013 at 4:00 pm

    I remember now, her so called suicide attempt. Didn’t she say she took apart a bic razor, nicked herslef and it stung so she nixed the idea? That’s a crock o shit.

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 4:03 pm

      Something like that … I thought she said a double-sided razor and then quickly back tracked.

  393. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 4:14 pm

    MMD – i know you don’t want to dwell on it, but any relief yet? thanks for the eye-roll a little earlier.

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 4:18 pm

      Yep, thanks for asking. The second round of meds really helped!!! Still not 100% and wouldn’t want to have to go anywhere but I’m definitely on the way back. A good night’s sleep and I’ll be as good as new and will have forgotten all about it 😀

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 4:21 pm

        If however, it comes back that they don’t find any aggravators, I can guaranty that it will be back full force!!!! 😦 cause I’ll be so pissed!!!!! I can’t believe that I’m actually waiting and wanting someone to qualify for the DP!!!

  394. 05/15/2013 at 4:16 pm

    If this doesn’tcome back extremely cruel I’m gonna go nutssss!!! I read a bunch of death row inmatea crimes and alot of them are nowhere near as cruel as this case!!

  395. Dewey
    05/15/2013 at 4:27 pm

    what kind of sick twisted crap did dwayne cates just spew? the defense could have said that it would have been more cruel if jodi only stabbed him once because it wouldve taken longer for travis to die?? therefore she did the more humane thing and stabbed him 27 times and sped up the process. ummm, ok.

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      05/15/2013 at 4:28 pm

      Just another DIPSHIT!!

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:29 pm

      I am so glad I did not hear that in person, reading about it was bad enough

      • Dewey
        05/15/2013 at 4:30 pm

        i paraphrased but you get the idea

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:32 pm

      haha read back.. thats exactly what I said the defense was trying to say! Gotta love spin donchya!!!

      • Dewey
        05/15/2013 at 4:46 pm

        scary sometimes how you can read these people

  396. SeniorMoments
    05/15/2013 at 4:30 pm

    Beth just said something I’m questioning. She sid that the Sheriff’s department may not be under the court’s jurisdiction regarding not permitting media to scheule interviews with JA,but they agreed to do so. Why cannot the judge declare a gag order on ALL participants in the case? Certainly, that would include all lawyers, witnesses, and even the bailiffs and guards. Even if the sheriff’s department were not under her jurisdiction, Jodi could be placed under gag order, at least for the duration of the trial. then, she will be under the jurisdiction of the state, right?

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:41 pm

      SeniorMoments~ was surprised to hear the Sheriff’s office does not have to do what the judge says but will adhere to her request. Thought a judge carried more weight than that. Also if/when she give more interviews WTH is she going to say unless there may be some truths with the lies. Or will she spin more versions if her story??

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 4:44 pm

      She was under a gag order (as were all the witnesses until released by the judge) and violated…. she can’t help herself … it is all about Jodi!

  397. 05/15/2013 at 4:34 pm

    OT medical examiner up for the prosecution in the George Thomas re-trial.

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 4:37 pm

      thanks, switching over

    • 05/15/2013 at 4:39 pm

      thanks for the alert

  398. 05/15/2013 at 4:49 pm

    I’m a little behind here. I know if this gets to penalty phase verdict needs to be unanimous fo SP.
    But t I have a question regarding agqvwtion phase. Does the verdict need to be Unanimous or simply a majority verdict to move on?
    I’m only at about #600 in comments and don’t know if answered and can’t remember jury instruction. They migh be back soon and seriously overwhelmed with curiosity.
    Please reply of ou can. Thank you.

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 4:56 pm

      as i understand it, jury must be unanimous for DP.

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 5:11 pm

      And they must be unanimous for “extreme cruelty”, this phase.

      • 05/15/2013 at 5:22 pm

        HJ., Beans..thanks do much… I knew that had to be unanimous but wasn’t retrain about cruelty. I was thinking they miGHT go,for,extreme cruelty if only,to get to the mitigating phase if only to give, them the opportunity to actually debat DP. no matter what. It’s a huge decision for them.
        More selfishly I want to hear the testimony put forth,,the witnesses called ,the Impact Statements and what JA MIGHTMhave to say. Will she show any remorse then? .

  399. truejustice
    05/15/2013 at 4:51 pm

    Defense team just walked into courtroom. We are still outside. Sherrifs are gathering around up here. Stay tuned #JodiArias

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 4:52 pm

      oopS – above is tweel from wildabouttrial

    • Nienna
      05/15/2013 at 4:53 pm

      Beat me to it! 🙂

      • truejustice
        05/15/2013 at 4:54 pm

        <<>>> that’s a first!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 5:09 pm

      Wait… What? Do you think the jury already back in?

  400. Nancy Pennington
    05/15/2013 at 5:05 pm

    Not sure if this has been mentioned, haven’t read ALL the comments yet but…I wish JM had mentioned the mental anguish Travis must have felt knowing that someone he had cared for (at least somewhat, for some period of time) was doing this horrible thing to him. WOBO said in her direct/cross exam that she felt betrayed by past boyfriends because they cheated on her. One can only imagine the betrayal Travis must have felt when he was dying!!!!!!!

  401. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 5:07 pm

    What can be taking them over an hour? Once again, I wish we had a copy of the jury instructions.

  402. 05/15/2013 at 5:13 pm

    bubblebutts :
    I remember now, her so called suicide attempt. Didn’t she say she took apart a bic bubrazor, nicked herslef and it stung so she nixed the idea? That’s a crock o shit.

    I remember that Bubble…she also said that because she was on the top bunk she went so far as to get extra towels or sheets to place around her so when she accomplished her task, her blood wouldn’t drip down onto her bunkie. See how considerate she was trying to be? But she avoided the mess, because it stung Too Much. I despise her.

    • HJ Madison
      05/15/2013 at 5:17 pm

      Oh yes, I forget that little detail. She is SO considerate, not wanting to make a mess on her bunkmate — of course, she would know what a mess blood can be! Dam… where are they?

  403. Allison
    05/15/2013 at 5:22 pm

    Anyone know what’s going on in the courthouse????

    • 05/15/2013 at 5:33 pm

      4 male jurors just left deliberation room. Smoke break? They will be back.. If I smoked (who am I kidding? I do.). I’d want a cig. And I am having way too many cigs during this nightmarexx.

  404. 05/15/2013 at 5:25 pm

    Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 3m

    Some of the jurors just walked out to the elevators. #JodiArias

  405. 05/15/2013 at 5:27 pm

    Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m

    The jurors that left could have stepped out for a smoke. Not sure yet. #JodiArias

  406. Moon
    05/15/2013 at 5:41 pm

    welllllll i cannot believe they don’t have a verdict yet! wth??? i figured they’d be out 10 min and I’d miss the verdict while at the docs….

  407. 05/15/2013 at 5:41 pm

    Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m

    The jurors that left just came back in. One was captain oneil.

  408. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 5:53 pm

    Verdict reached!

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 5:55 pm

      and it sounds like it’s unanimous!!!!

      • 05/15/2013 at 5:58 pm

        I still only have the seal?

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 6:04 pm

        me too and I have 3 livefeeds going plus HLN 😦

  409. truejustice
    05/15/2013 at 5:53 pm


  410. 05/15/2013 at 5:54 pm


  411. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 5:57 pm

    Here we go!!!!!

    • Family of Law
      05/15/2013 at 6:02 pm

      Aaaaaaaaaeeeeend, we wait…..

      • MMD
        05/15/2013 at 6:03 pm

        Darlin’ I guess you forgot that we’re in AZ with Judge Stephens 🙄

      • HJ Madison
        05/15/2013 at 6:04 pm

        How are the kittens?

  412. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 6:03 pm

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    Public gallery section now filling for #JodiArias “aggravating factor” verdict. Looks like the courtroom will be full when verdict is read

    Chris Williams@chriswnews
    Not including breaks it appears the #JodiArias jury was out apx 1hr 30min before reaching

  413. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 6:06 pm

    and we’re in the courtroom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  414. MMD
    05/15/2013 at 6:07 pm


  415. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 6:07 pm


  416. truejustice
    05/15/2013 at 6:08 pm

    ja looks very pale all the sudden!!

  417. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/15/2013 at 6:10 pm

    WOO HOO!!!!!!!

  418. Beans
    05/15/2013 at 6:10 pm

    too much tragedy to rejoice, but i’m satisfied.

    • janeto
      05/15/2013 at 6:15 pm

      Beans, I totally agree!!

  419. Family of Law
    05/15/2013 at 6:11 pm

    What do you suppose Juan said to Wurmi?

    • truejustice
      05/15/2013 at 6:12 pm

      I’d love to know

    • MMD
      05/15/2013 at 6:12 pm

      probably something nice like well you did the best you could with what you had………….

      • Family of Law
        05/15/2013 at 6:20 pm

        Juan is the consummate professional. But I like thinking he sais what Syn said…

    • Beans
      05/15/2013 at 6:13 pm

      ‘yo mama’

    • 05/15/2013 at 6:13 pm

      still beat ya, brat

      • 05/15/2013 at 6:14 pm


      • Family of Law
        05/15/2013 at 6:18 pm

        Did you hear me snort all the way from the other side of the world? LOL!

  420. Ci Ci's Circle
    05/15/2013 at 6:12 pm

    Where’s your smiles and snickers now Jackass and Willanurmi??!!!

  421. janeto
    05/15/2013 at 6:12 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!! Way to go jurors!!!!!!!!! My heart bleeds for the Alexander family!!!!! Stay strong!!

  422. HJ Madison
    05/15/2013 at 6:12 pm

    Anyone know if they will be in session Friday? They started to, toward the end of the trial. Planning a weekend outing.

  423. 05/15/2013 at 6:13 pm

    Ok now when the