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Martin MacNeill Murder Trial Begins


UnknownOff to a rocky start, first video problems, then no audio!

After a half hour we are up and running.  They started with instructions first.

Prosecutors begin with describing how young Ada found her mother unresponsive in the tub.

Next they cover Gypsy Willis, the mistress.

An odd bit of information comes out.  MacNeill told members of his church he had terminal cancer, a foot ailment and began using a cane.

Next comes a lengthy description on how MacNeill forced his wife to undergo a facelift and he demanded a range of drugs from the doctor.

This opening is very cut and dried.  There is no emotion at all!

They describe how Michele was over medicated.

The 911 tapes are played for the jury.  McNeill claims he is doing CPR, however no one who arrived on the scene saw him performing CPR.

MacNeill told everyone he told Michele not to have the surgery and not to take the medications.

MacNeill gave 2 different versions of how Michele’s body was positioned in the tub.  Once she was face up then she was face down.

First responders said MacNeill was acting very strangely and were actually concerned for their own safety.

In the afternoon on the day of the death, the medications and the hospital bed had already been removed.

Next the story of hiring a nanny comes in.  Two of the daughters offered to care for the young kids, but Macneill got belligerent and insisted he was bringing a nanny in.

MacNeill brought his mistress, Gypsy, in as the nanny.

Later, he told people there is no way police could blame him, he made sure of it by his actions.

Defense attorney Susanne Gustin begins by saying what the prosecutor presented reminds her of an Aesop’s fable.

Yes he had affairs and yes he moved Gypsy into the house.  He made poor choices, but you should not let emotions cloud the issues.

Gustin discusses the findings by 3 different ME’s, none called it a homicide.  The death can be attributed to heart disease.

She claims that investigators needed to get around the autopsy so the met several times with the ME to get him to change his findings.

She also says investigators improperly told people their perceptions and also conducted interviews with other witnesses present so that taints their testimony.

Now she claims Alexis Somers, the daughter, has changed her story several times.

Gustin is no ball of fire either.                                     

All-in-all, rather dull morning!

15 minute recess called.

State calls Dr. Scott Thompson.  He is the plastic surgeon.

He goes through his CV.

He studied pharmacology, so he knows meds.

He had an ad in the paper that MacNeill responded to.

Dang, feed dropped.

Martin did most of the talking and said they wanted to move ahead because he was taking Michele on a cruise.

WTH?  MacNeill told this guy he was a shrink!

He performed a pre-surgery evaluation.  She did have a bit of high blood pressure.

He normally gives vicodin and loratab, ambian, and an antibiotic and a steroid.  He will give phenergan for nausea.  MacNeill requested additional drugs.  Percocet and valium.

Lot’s of discussion about over medication causing stupor and respiratory distress and central nervous system depression.

Lunch called.

Back on direct.

Long discussion on the actual surgery.  It went for about 8 hours and everything was normal.

Michele stayed overnight in the hospital and was discharged the next morning.

2 days later Thompson saw Michele again to check her over.  Michele was doing well and had no unusual complaints about pain.

Oh my gosh, after the 3rd visit, he refilled the drugs (which he normally doesn’t do) because MacNeill asked him too.  She should have begun weaning off the drugs by then.

On the 11th, he received a frantic call from MacNeill saying Michele had been found unresponsive.  It surprised Thompson.


Asks about previous interviews he’s had before today and is shown the transcript of the interview with investigators.

When you saw the MacNeills they seemed happy together?  Yes.

You didn’t get the impression that MacNeill was pushing the surgery?  No.

On April 10th, did Michele have anyone with her?  I believe so.

She still had swelling around the eyes and was taking 2 percocets a day and shouldn’t be driving?  Correct.

Defense going after the doctor has changed his recollection on who called for the refills on the drugs.

Defense really drilling down on the way the drug scripts were written and the timing of when the could be taken trying to get him to say it’s ok to tall all the drugs together.

The thing is, the drugs didn’t kill her, they subdued her, but the drowning did!


Has anyone told you what to say here today?  No.  I reviewed my records in the past few days.

What was the ambien for?  Sleep.

Any reason to take it in the morning?  No.

Thompson finally done.

Jury has some questions!!!

Did it concern you that MacNeill was acting as the PCP for Michel?  Yes.

Did you express that concern to MacNeill and Michele?  No because he consulted with another doctor.

Thompson released, subject to recall.

State calls Dr. Von Welch.  He is an internal medicine doc.  He examined Michele for a pre-operative examine.

He cleared Michele for surgery and he worked with MacNeill.

MacNeill was a director at the center and made strides to reduce medications for patients!!!

He says Michele showed signs of high blood pressure and MacNeill said she had blood pressure issues.

MacNeill kept answering for her so he asked him to leave the room so he could speak to her on her own. He prescribed blood pressure med and an anti-depressant.

He recommended to postpone the surgery.

Her EKG was normal.

He was surprised that Michel had passed shortly after the surgery.


Again, defense trying to show discrepancies in the doctor’s previous testimony.

When you asked to speak with Michele alone, did MacNeill have any issue with that?  No.

Jury questions…

What kind of facility did MacNeill work at?  A developmental center.

Welch released but subject to recall.

Court recessed for the day at 3:10 MT and we will be back tomorrow at 8:30!

  1. MMD
    10/17/2013 at 5:28 pm

    Once again thank you donchais thank you for covering this trial. He so totally killed his wife and needs to go away for a long, long time.

    I think that the best comments today were from your commenters:

    Marilyn said:

    defense attorney is a snake – comes across soft spoken, etc. but watch out!!

    Mrs. DP said:

    Miss Piggy (when asked if anyone knew the female defense attorney’s name)

    Other than that, they need to turn up the volume in the mics. The judge runs a tight courtroom but it is eerily quiet plus they let NG in.

  2. dpforjodi
    10/17/2013 at 5:34 pm

    and the other defense attorney is smiling Bob from the encyte commercial.

    • MMD
      10/17/2013 at 5:36 pm

      lol – don’t remember that commercial.

      • dpforjodi
        10/17/2013 at 6:16 pm

        well he always had a big grin on his face and the women security officers in the airport liked scanning a certain part of his anatomy much like you and your anatomically correct Juan doll, sorry I let that slip out

      • MMD
        10/17/2013 at 6:31 pm


  3. ritanita
    10/17/2013 at 5:42 pm

    Great summary, Donchais.

    After the CA and JA trials, this thing is so tame! I hope it perks up when we get the non-medical witnesses on board.

    • MMD
      10/17/2013 at 6:34 pm

      So do I ritanita. I sure that when you torture yourself with HLN tonight there will be plenty of screaming and arguments. You can fill us in on the details tomorrow.

      Did you get your property cleaned?

      • ritanita
        10/17/2013 at 6:55 pm

        Some of it is clean. My kitchen floor is a beast with the messiest cats in the world! They love to spit out pieces of food that don’t please them! I am constantly on hands and knees, wiping up cat food! I did some vacuuming during lunch and some filing during the testimony.

        AND, I doubt I’ll listen to the screaming tonight. I’ve not been watching much since the Fall Season started. My favorite programs are back!

      • MMD
        10/17/2013 at 6:59 pm

        That’s why I have dogs. LOL I good swiffer wetjet with lots of pads on each floor really helps too.

  4. 10/17/2013 at 6:10 pm

    Thanks for the succinct, spot-on summary Donchais – and everything else you do. Off for dins and get ready for the football game tonight – see ya tomorrow.

    • dpforjodi
      10/17/2013 at 6:19 pm

      ditto donchais and thanks for giving my email to beans and MMD

      • MMD
        10/17/2013 at 6:37 pm

        Yes thank you donchai – love ya xoxo

        Between you and Beans I stopped counting at 125 the times that I deleted the addy. Thankfully everything stopped coming in multiples this morning.

  5. donchais
    10/17/2013 at 7:38 pm

    I guess my biggest issue is I see no fire…no real passion and conviction by the pros…just we’re doing our job. There is a victim here, one way or the other…Sad!

  6. Linda
    10/17/2013 at 7:51 pm

    i have a question….is ” Dr McNeill and Gypsy married? new to posting here but i lurk all the time…..Love everyones comments and love your commentary donchais. I followed the JA trial with you but never commented. But i wondered if he was married to her and who is taking care of the younger kids?

    • donchais
      10/17/2013 at 8:07 pm

      Hey Linda, no, not married, but forged docs saying they were. The kids are living with the daughter, Alexis Somers. Alexis took her mom’s maiden so she would never be known as Dr. MacNeill!

  7. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/17/2013 at 10:31 pm

    MMD :Once again thank you donchais thank you for covering this trial. He so totally killed his wife and needs to go away for a long, long time.
    I think that the best comments today were from your commenters:
    Marilyn said:
    defense attorney is a snake – comes across soft spoken, etc. but watch out!!
    Mrs. DP said:
    Miss Piggy (when asked if anyone knew the female defense attorney’s name)
    Other than that, they need to turn up the volume in the mics. The judge runs a tight courtroom but it is eerily quiet plus they let NG in.

    Hello All….

    Well we listened to the trial today and our take on the looks of that male defense attorney is thast he looked like a Jackass when they show their teeth…..kinda like a laughing Jackass!! Get the picture? aha ha ha ha!!

    This guy reeks guilt….every time the camera was on him he has that deer in the headlights look and is clenching his jaw the whole time!!

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 10:11 am

      Ah CCC – you ladies always sum things up best! 😀

  8. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/17/2013 at 10:35 pm

    donchais :I guess my biggest issue is I see no fire…no real passion and conviction by the pros…just we’re doing our job. There is a victim here, one way or the other…Sad!

    Yes!! We also noticed a flatness to the Prosecutor! Where’s the energy to fight for the victim here?! Hope he has some type of success to back up his slow motion tactics. How sad is that?

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 10:14 am

      I totally agree. If he’s not convincing us with his passion for putting a killer away, how the hell is he going to convince a jury? After all, they’re just regular people like us.

  9. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 10:19 am

    Morning all. I spent most of last night getting more and more pissed at Martin and his attorneys. The things he did to his family and how he must have made his poor wife feel. We will never know what kind of emotional abuse she suffered at his hands and she didn’t need a facelift.

    PLUS he is using his attorneys to still abuse his children!!! Makes me want to hurl!

  10. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 10:25 am

    The judge just ruled that the cameras are no longer allowed to show the counsel tables.

    • ritanita
      10/18/2013 at 10:33 am

      But we get to see the bath tub?

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 10:39 am

        I think they are looking at that now. Martin must have complained about being on camera because he always seemed to be looking for it, even when it was over the back of his head.

      • ritanita
        10/18/2013 at 10:41 am

        Or, they read message board comments about his awful demeanor.

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 10:51 am

        That’s probably more like it because some of the comments I saw on Whoop (I think) were really awful, not that he doesn’t deserve each and every one of them.

  11. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 10:54 am

    Morning! Just got up but see they haven’t started yet.
    Or did I miss anything?

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 10:58 am

      Morning Marilyn – just started.

  12. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 11:04 am

    Notice how he says that he is doing CPR while she is in the bathtub in between his hangups.

  13. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 11:06 am

    In real life, if you’re doing CPR on someone that you WANT to live, who takes time out to answer the phone???? Truly??? 🙄

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 11:12 am

      hi MMD i hope those nasty comments on whoop were from me

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 11:27 am

        Morning Mrs. DP. Were you posting over there? I wasn’t paying any attention to the names to tell you the truth. I just glanced a couple of times when the video was going squirrely on Fox13

  14. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 11:28 am

    It may have been hard to get her out of that tub, but I would think
    a person’s adrenaline would kick in to be able to do it.

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 11:30 am

      you would thinks

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 11:32 am

      Exactly, his would but she probably couldn’t not with him probably already having her almost if not deceased.

  15. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 11:29 am

    i made a few comments. Tonights homework everyone look up smiling Bob in the encyte commercial on youtube. There will be a quiz tomorrow!!!!!!

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 11:31 am

      beans where are you?

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 11:36 am

        yeah Beans, up and attem!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 10/18/2013 at 11:36 am

        I’m here, just engrossed in this testimony. Mornin’ everyone.

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 11:38 am


    • Marilyn N
      10/18/2013 at 11:32 am

      OMG, dp, I just took a quick peek. It’s HIM!!!

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 11:36 am

        hey Marilyn maybe that is why he is smiling all the time

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 11:33 am

      great, just what I love, pop quizzes 🙄

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 11:35 am

      I just checked – it IS him. He also is serving 20 years for consumer fraud! LOL

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 11:37 am

        he may be very popular in prison

  16. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 11:41 am

    Martin was wearing his lab coat?? My husband is a physician and would never
    wear a lab coat at home………

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 11:43 am

      I know, they usually leave them at the hospital or at the office.

      • Marilyn N
        10/18/2013 at 11:45 am

        Maybe it was to promote his fraudulent status.

  17. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 11:43 am

    An observation about “Bob”, he appears to be a pretty sharp cookie.
    Don’t think anything will get past him.

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 11:50 am

      Sadly, I agree Marilyn – according to his web page he is considered one of Utah’s elite. He just drives me nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. 10/18/2013 at 11:47 am

    As I understand it, current CPR protocol recommends no mouth-to-mouth, especially on someone who has been in water, would a “doctor” not know this? And, on the 911 tape he claims he was doing it while Michele was in the tub – BS.

    • Marilyn N
      10/18/2013 at 11:48 am

      Hopefully the BS factor will come across to the jury.

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 11:51 am

        From your lips to the jury’s ears.

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 11:51 am

      Beans, you surfaced. ******waves*******

      • 10/18/2013 at 11:59 am

        Back atcha.

  19. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 11:52 am

    Old Martin will need lots of botox in his forehead after this is over!!

    • 10/18/2013 at 11:57 am

      Good one.

  20. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 11:53 am

    I truly hope that cancer lie he told comes back to bite him in the ass big time!!!!!!!!

  21. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 12:03 pm

    I just want to smack the smile off “Bob’s” face, really, really hard!!!!!!!!!!!! The disgust that I feel for the entire defense table is totally off the charts!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the fake dr of nothing/everything can prescribe something for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We truly need a hurl emoticon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 12:09 pm

    You have NO idea how much I just wanted to reach thru my screen and smack the back of his head (like Gibbs) except harder.

    Truly, I am not a violent person at all but these 3 bring out the absolute worst in me.(︺︹︺)

  23. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 12:12 pm

    They must have just started this jury question thing as the judge keeps forgetting.

  24. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 12:15 pm

    Who do hate more, John Goodman, or good old Martin?

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 12:26 pm

      Martin, hands down. Goodman is just mildly irritating because I KNOW he will get reconvicted at his retrial.

      • 10/18/2013 at 12:30 pm

        Ah, that John Goodman – I was thinking who hates John Goodman, great actor.

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 12:30 pm

      Plus Martin probably had Michelle turned into a stepford wife and is still abusing his children via his attorneys. Goodman, on the other hand, although Scott’s parents still don’t have justice, he is on house arrest, has settled the wrongful death suit, the adoption of his girlfriend/daughter was vacated, plus his mother just died.

      • Marilyn N
        10/18/2013 at 1:18 pm

        Good points! At least John is a real person. Just a “tad” bit spoiled who has/had a drinking problem.

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 2:35 pm

        He was also on his way to buy some coke/crack when the accident took place.

  25. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 12:28 pm

    where did they go?

    • 10/18/2013 at 12:30 pm

      15 min. recess.

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 12:34 pm

        thanks, How did the Dr of Everything get a license to practise medicine and law after a felony conviction back in 1977?

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 12:31 pm

      15 minute break. Keep up and pay attention darlin’………..

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 12:35 pm

        I’m making beans namesake and doing my pills for the next2weeks,sadlyno valium, ambien or encyte cause I want to smile too

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 12:39 pm


  26. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 1:13 pm

    I wonder who those blonde women are that the camera shows once in awhile?

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 1:18 pm

      someone from whoop said they were Michelle’s sisters

      • Marilyn N
        10/18/2013 at 1:20 pm


  27. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 1:16 pm

    2 women plus Martin would have no problem getting Michelle out of the tub but yet he had to have a man. 🙄

  28. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 1:23 pm

    Martin sure has scrawny shoulders.

  29. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 1:23 pm

    doesn’t he know that if you want the job done right, Hire a woman…….sorry beans

    • Marilyn N
      10/18/2013 at 1:24 pm

      Goes to show what his opinion of women is.

      • 10/18/2013 at 1:27 pm

        I think it was stall tactics to ensure Michele was beyond help.

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 1:28 pm

        you’d think with all those daughters. The sociopath only has a high opinion of himself

    • 10/18/2013 at 1:28 pm

      Keep that in mind next time you need a mechanic.

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 1:47 pm

      anything a man can do a woman can do better right Mrs. DP! 😀

      • 10/18/2013 at 1:53 pm

        Yeah – how are you at sperm donations?

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 2:17 pm

        how are you at egg donation????????????????? 😯

      • 10/18/2013 at 2:38 pm

        I get a chicken to donate ’em.

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 2:59 pm

        wrong kind Beans but good try!!!! 😆

  30. 10/18/2013 at 1:26 pm

    This is breaking my heart, this guy did everything he could to delay saving Michele’s life while everyone else was frantically trying to assist her.

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 1:31 pm

      sorry beans you were not included in that comment. still friends?????

      • 10/18/2013 at 1:38 pm

        I guess, but I was deeply hurt by that insensitive remark – okey dokey, I’m over it.

  31. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 1:48 pm

    I’m sorry I can be very thoughtless at times. Would you like some beans?? they smell good

    • 10/18/2013 at 1:51 pm

      I cut you lots of slack because of the Newf factor. I’ll pass on the beans for now, prepping my own dins for tonight.

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 2:05 pm

        Newf factor like I can’t help it

  32. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 1:49 pm

    And yes I will need a mechanic cause my car is 20 years old

    • 10/18/2013 at 1:52 pm

      Well ,this is your lucky day, you’re talking to one so you should try being a little nicer to me.

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 1:54 pm

        i will here have another bowl of beans and would you like some home made bread

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 2:00 pm

        ohhhhhh you look like a crust man

  33. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 1:58 pm

    Martin was probably worried he’d get his clothes messed up – hence the lab coat!

  34. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 1:59 pm

    Sure wish they would turn up the volume so I could get more done around here!!

  35. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 2:01 pm

    to look like he just rushed in from work

    • 10/18/2013 at 2:05 pm

      I love crusty homemade bread.

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 2:12 pm

        does a bread machine count?
        Ah I feel bad you know.
        its just that I had a few renos and got screwed and not in a good way everytime by them and they were all men.

  36. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/18/2013 at 2:12 pm

    We’re not that up with this McNeill trial and we have some questions:

    How did she get in the tub in the first place?

    With all the medication prescribed for her how could she possibly get herself to the tub?

    Why would she get in the tub with clothes on?

    And why would she be taking a bath so soon after such a major surgery?

    • ritanita
      10/18/2013 at 2:20 pm

      Ci Ci’s Circle :
      We’re not that up with this McNeill trial and we have some questions:
      How did she get in the tub in the first place?

      We really don’t know. Prosecution theory is MM drugged her up and drowned her.

      With all the medication prescribed for her how could she possibly get herself to the tub?

      She was down to 2 Percocet at the time. Why she had Ambien in her in the AM is another question.

      Why would she get in the tub with clothes on?

      She wouldn’t! My theory based on the testimony is that MM was stripping off her clothes every time he was alone with her. Ada saw her fully dressed, Kristi saw her with no pants and black long-sleeved top first time, she left and Kristi and Angie saw her with only the white tank-type shirt (which she probably had on under the black top). Major oopsie by MM.

      And why would she be taking a bath so soon after such a major surgery?

      IMHO, she wasn’t taking a bath.

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 2:23 pm

        good answer you go to the head of the class

      • 10/18/2013 at 2:26 pm

        nailed it ritanita.

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 2:24 pm

      Martin said that he thought she was dazed and fell in however the young daughter who found her drew of picture of her mother lying face down, not up like everyone is describing, fully clothed with her feet hanging over the end of the tub.

      She probably couldn’t get to the tub.
      She wouldn’t.
      She wasn’t – he had preplanned this entire thing.

      You need to watch this 20/20 episode which tells the story. He is a nasty, nasty piece of work.

      Donchais’ recap yesterday and today will fill in the rest of the gaps.

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 2:30 pm

        CCC – Plus ritanita’s answer above!!! Now you know as much as we do, which is that he is guilty as sin and that Jillian’s real name is Gypsy (true). 🙂

  37. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/18/2013 at 2:29 pm

    thanks for the quick re-wind! You know his wife was a beautiful woman…..she didn’t need a face lift!! However if he is so into making face lifts a gift he should have gifted himself! He’s no prize!

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 2:31 pm

      well according to him he was supposed to be dead from cancer within 6 mos to a year. According to some other folks on Whoop he also said he had MS so who knows.

  38. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/18/2013 at 2:31 pm

    Even that femail attorney of his looks like she’s had some work done….Hope she didn’t pay too much for that work….she looks puffy and waxy!

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 2:32 pm

      Mrs. DP nicknamed her Miss Piggy and I think it suits. She specializes in child molesters and sex offenders like Wurmi.

    • Ci Ci's Circle
      10/18/2013 at 2:33 pm

      Geeezzzz…”female”….not femail!!

  39. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 2:35 pm
  40. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/18/2013 at 2:37 pm

    MMD :Mrs. DP nicknamed her Miss Piggy and I think it suits. She specializes in child molesters and sex offenders like Wurmi.

    Ha ha ha ha…..Mis Piggy! Yup….DP hit that nail on the head!! Good one DP!!

  41. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Marilyn – who do YOU dislike more Martin, Goodman or JA? Made it a bit trickier throwing in the 3rd one! 😉

  42. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 2:47 pm

    ooooooooohh – It would be between JA & Martin. Have to wait until
    we get into this trial more. I would love to stick JA in a small space with
    Martin and Bob Bashara!!

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 2:52 pm

      I’d like to put JA in with Luka Magnotta (the canuck cannibal) and see who survives. We could probably throw Martin in with them as well to make it interesting since Luka is into men and JA would have no sway over him.

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 2:57 pm

      It has been such a treat not to hear or see anything about JA lately. I get google alerts but just delete them. I hope she is enjoying obscurity but her time of reckoning is coming eventually, once Wurmi has finished milking all he can from the taxpayers.

      • Marilyn N
        10/18/2013 at 3:18 pm

        I here you. When I see her picture now, it is blatantly clear what a sick, sick nothing of a person she is. She is the infected puss in a huge pimple!!

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 3:33 pm

        it has hasn’t it.

  43. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 2:47 pm

    I think it is so funny that I am watching the feed on whoop.tv in the UK plus reading the comments, have the volume on Fox13 in Utah plus a backup feed on WAT. It’s all the same feed but there is no volume delay on whoop from fox but there is on WAT. Go figure.

  44. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 3:24 pm

    herpetic carbuncle

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 3:31 pm

      do not look this up on the internet

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 3:43 pm

        Now you know I had to. GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 4:00 pm


  45. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 3:37 pm

    I wonder if Martin has some sort of breathing/sinus problem?
    He always has his mouth slightly ajar.

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 3:41 pm

      it’s from stunned amazement that anyone would actually question that he killed his wife lololololololololol

      • Marilyn N
        10/18/2013 at 3:45 pm

        Oh yes – I think you’re probably right!!! ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa!!

      • Marilyn N
        10/18/2013 at 3:48 pm

        Utterly Stunned!!!

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 3:58 pm

        lol you had to look

  46. Marilyn N
    10/18/2013 at 3:55 pm

    Just cause you couldn’t lift her out of the tub, Bob, doesn’t mean Doug couldn’t!!

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 3:58 pm

      As someone just posted on Whoop.tv if JA could drag Travis down the hall then MM could have lifted Michelle out of the tub.

      • Marilyn N
        10/18/2013 at 4:03 pm

        People have lifted cars when they need to!

  47. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 4:00 pm

    I betcha “Bob” was really picked on when he was a kid.

    • Marilyn N
      10/18/2013 at 4:01 pm

      And his revenge is coming out on these innocent witnesses!!

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 4:06 pm

      and still is on here and whoop. Do you think he was a forcep delivery? or did they just pull him out like a tree stump

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 4:13 pm

        After watching Call the Midwives I’d definitely say forceps!

      • dpforjodi
        10/18/2013 at 4:16 pm

        gotta watch it

  48. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 4:01 pm

    I would really like to meet this Whitney and whoever the other investigator was. I’m getting really tired of the defence talking about them. 😦

  49. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 4:16 pm

    Mrs. DP – it’s a really damp, rainy evening. Will you send over some beans and homemade bread cause that would just hit the spot. Please and much thanks. 🙂

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 4:33 pm

      sending it over now.
      wnet downstairs to uncover the beans, and the ducks saw me…… one nipped at me so I just lay the big bowl on the deck

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 4:40 pm

        Thank you darlin’. Much appreciated. Yum yum 😀

  50. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 4:32 pm

    Sounds like Marty was faking it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oopsie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Marilyn N
      10/18/2013 at 4:35 pm

      Sounds like his whole life was a fake!! Why stop now?

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 4:41 pm

        Excellent point. Don’t know how he kept all the lies straight.

  51. MMD
    10/18/2013 at 4:51 pm

    Mrs. DP – are you commenting on whoop? Someone just said that the female def attorney looked like Miss Piggy 😉

    • dpforjodi
      10/18/2013 at 4:54 pm

      twas me i think also su eeeeeeee

  52. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/18/2013 at 5:02 pm

    MMD :Mrs. DP – are you commenting on whoop? Someone just said that the female def attorney looked like Miss Piggy

    What’s Whoop???

    • MMD
      10/18/2013 at 5:05 pm

      http://whoopwhoop.tv/martinmacneill.htm It’s a site in the UK that is streaming this trial and people are commenting very quickly on the right hand side.

      • MMD
        10/18/2013 at 5:07 pm

        It’s the exact same trial feed that we are watching on WAT, Fox13, Radaronline.com. etc.

  53. dpforjodi
    10/18/2013 at 5:08 pm
  54. Ci Ci's Circle
    10/18/2013 at 5:18 pm

    Oh ok….thanks for the info! Something new to us….as usual. We’ll stick with WAT.

  55. dpforjodi
    10/19/2013 at 7:56 am

    wifey is on a 14 day on 7 off shift. And all I can say is that I am never alone with all of you guys. Hugs to all.

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